Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to side Quest. This is our weekly
video game show here at Geek. First, I'm your host,
No Musk, and I'm going by the Leon lover, Travis Noll.
How are you doing tonight, my friend?
Speaker 2: I'm good. Oh wait, either way, that's that's an L.
There you go.
Speaker 1: Wait they're on my screen. I think it might be
flipped for you, but then.
Speaker 2: For Yeah, I just don't like seeing an L like this,
like it is an L. But no one does that
a way. Yeah, I'm doing well. We're a mesterday. We're
three days away, a little less because we should get
at nine pm. But yeah, a terrible scream movie I
go see for some bummed about that. But Resident Evil
Requiem is upon us and not well, it's just the
fact that it's coming out like at the Thursday.
Speaker 1: Okay, but it's like scathing reviews already or something.
Speaker 2: No, not yet, I don't know. Maybe it is, and
that that's even worse. I hope it's at least good
becauset least it's good. I'm sitting like, okay, I enjoy
this edition to my franchise. I enjoy named a kid
after If it's awful, that's like I could be playing
Resident Evil right now. That's definitely happened on some game
I think the past couple of years where I was
reviewing the movie. It's like I definitely could have been
elsewhere right now. But I'm very excited. I feel like
I've not been excited for a game this much in
a long time. I was trying to think because we're
talking about destrying too, but I still remember with DS two,
I was very nervous leading up to it, so it
was like a cautious excitement, but just a pure excitement.
I think it's been a I don't know, I'd really
have to go like this might be overrating it, so
that might be a trashtold you talk for myself to
kill time, but it might be since like Red Dead two,
maybe that the anticipation is built up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty crazy, actually, yeah, because.
Speaker 2: I can't remember who I was talking to about this
with that's just like when we've done all these games,
it is kind of crazy. Like the last time Lyon
was in a game was twenty twelve. It doesn't feel
like that, but it's like it's fourteen years ago. This
massive main character just was like forgotten about. I know
he's been in the remix, but I mean like new
editions of his story. It's like he's just been gone
for fourteen years. So but at the same time, that's
a little nerve wracking as well. So you no, no,
but I'm very excited. I can't wait for a Thursday
Friday in the weekend. I'm I'm ready.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm with you in the sense that this
is my first Resident Evil game that I'm gonna be
playing at launch. That's an exciting thing. I played Village,
like you know, in the same year it came out, Yeah,
not on same day one, and I had not really
played much of the series at that point. But now
I've gone in this whole odyssey, and yeah, playing at
day one is gonna be fun and exciting. Haven't seen
any leaks or the spoilers that are apparently.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Resident Evil had to put a statement like please
try not to share and just just sucks. There's another one.
But yeah, even last was too that made me another one.
I was I was am that gets leaked as well.
But that's kind of crazy when you said with you
played that within the same year, same thing. It was
seven for me that I think I played within the
year of sale Village took longer, but I think the
last time I played a game like release was Residual four,
which is kind of crazy because I talked about yeah, yeah, yeah,
I talk about five and six kind of falling off.
So it's create like the last time I was buying
a Resident Evil game opening week or whatever, was Resident
Evil for whichever, because I remember I saved it my
allowance for I was getting twenty dollars a week at
that point doing chores, so that was a that was
a purchase. So yeah, I haven't bought one since the Gamecubre,
so hopefully, hopefully it's gonna be a fun time, So I.
Speaker 1: Think it will be. Yeah, before we get into that,
and this episode's all about Residueval, do some Requiem predictions
a little bit before that. The most immediate part of
the episode's gonna be our Resident Evil rankings, ranking the series,
ranking our favorite levels, enemies, maybe throw some characters in
the mix of course all the games as well. Uh So,
really a Residuavil focused episode. Then you're getting that next
week as well as we play the game when it
comes up Thursday. Come back on Monday Tuesday to talk
about our time with it, and we'll see if we
can beat it. I don't know how long it will
be and how much time we'll have, but we'll do
our best, you know, try because I feel like Resident
Evil not games I need to savor, Like I'm fine
to just blast through that part.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I've replayed all these games. I'm like, I go through
them in like a weekend. Is not uncommon for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and sometimes that works for these stories too, because
you're locked in. You're locked in, like and I even
forgot that we're locked in a hotel. Let's go around,
which got me super excited. Kind of that was real
long time ago. But I'm big shining guys. I'm like, right,
we're in a hotel.
Speaker 1: That's like, have we been in a hotel before?
Speaker 2: No? So I feel like the closest this achens back
to like a mansion like the first game. So I
love that we're in a building we're locked away, especially
after Village, which was so wide right, So but that's
what it fits better. You're locked in a hotel, got
to get out. It fits with that kind of okay,
you know, twenty four hours go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, before we get into the Resident evil stuff.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 1: There was some very big news this week that two
of the big bosses over there at Xbox, in Phil
Spencer and Sarah bon are out, or at least rather
on their way out. You know, might be a long,
a long hallway before they get to the door at
the exit there. But they have announced at least that
Phil Spencer is he's leaving Xbox. He's like retiring.
Speaker 2: Maybe he's retired today today he retired. Yeah, okay, he's
stay consultant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, classic. Yeah. And then Sarah Bond, who knows, I don't.
I don't know what she's like up to next, but yeah,
they're both they're both out at this point in time.
And they announced the new person kind of filling in
those shoes. Well, one is like Matt Booty I think
is going up up a tier. He's been there for
a few years at this point. And then another person
I don't have the name off the top of my head,
but they're previous kind of pedigree is like deep in
AI stuff, and they're now kind of taking the helm
at This doesn't seem to be like much of a
gaming type person, but you know, it really doesn't matter
if these CEO people, I don't know if that really
makes a difference. Phil Spencer huge gamer. Was he a
good CEO of Xbox. I'll let you decide, But yeah, Travis,
you have been a vocal anti Phil guy for many
many moves, probably like since near the podcast inception.
Speaker 2: Even I feel like I'm on the og kind of
like I would say, hey, just questionable, right, That's always
what I was. There was a few decisions. I think
Lotti got egged done because Taylor was a big Xbox guy.
Like if people don't or if people don't know or
have for gone. The very first ever GV wrestling match
was based on me and Taylor arguing about Xbox PlayStation.
There is Taylor has a poster or just a paper
print of Phil Spencer that he wears for the majority
of that match. So it was a big deal. But yeah,
it was always decisions and also we never know, but
we've learned that the past couple of years. Like for me,
it was also some of the game past stuff of
like it and don't be wrong that was great for
game gamers. I was always just how is this all
gonna work out? And yeah, I think for me it's
interesting because we've talked about this a few times. It's
crazy now, like you again, we talked about Star Wars
new leadership, Disney's getting new leadership, whatever's happening More Brothers now,
Xbox got new leadership. I don't know what that's gonna entail.
I don't know if that's gonna be better or worse, right,
because I always was somebody's like, yeah, I think Kathleen
Kenny should go in Star Wars, and then now it's gone.
It's like, you know what, maybe I this person too harshly,
And that's the thing. Like you said, it's like it's
for everyone to decide, but it's like we can barely
decide because we never know, like how much was Phil
and how much was that, so it's never like a
stomping for him to be fired or let go. I
think there was an idea, like I'd like some changes
and something, just because I want the brand to be
popular and I don't want to be in the scenario
that we've talked about before where it's just PlayStation Nintendo
and these consoles go up every year and that's the
only choice, right, Like even the Steam machines, Like okay,
that's not even even coming out. This out the year
maybe right, So I just always want them to do better.
And I was just kind of surprised by we never
know when this guy go, you know what, things like
Halo that's never come into PlayStation, and then that does happen, right,
But I never know was that this guy's saying that
and then turning around with me that let's just do
it anyways, or was it a him saying that and
then someone higher ups being like, no, you're gonna put
Halo on that, right, And I don't think we'll learn
that for like another I'll say a minimum five years,
maybe ten. I'm sure there's NBA's I'm sure one day
he's gonna write a book where he's going to do
an interview or I'm very excited for the next few weeks,
like when Jason Shry and all this. We've always seen
a couple of interviews from people from insiders saying oh,
they didn't like the Xbox anywhere and this and that.
So we really don't know. That's the tough thing. It's
in a vacuum. We can't say, oh, this is great
for Xbox because you know, Matt Booty's also been a
part of some like questionable decisions and the new replacement
as well as for the CEO. It's like inner statement
she said, Oh, well, I'm excited to learn more about
this brand, and that's not the most appealing statement to
say coming up. So I think for me it was just, uh,
what was shocking about it was it got treated like
a fanboy like myself, like made the calling. Yeah, I
just got filled out of there. It was just crazy
to me in the twenty five year anniversary that they
weren't gonna do like a oh at the end of
the year, like Phil's gonna retire, like we're gonna like
he's gonna do one more direct one where this's like
kind of a swan song because no matter what, like
the guy did work for the brand a long time,
and again he was a part of that era where
they did start to win, right like the three six era,
he was a part of that. He got Xbox higher
than it ever was. There is a time where PlayStation
and the Xbox weren't the biggest console in the world,
and he was a part of that. So it's kind
of surprised, Like I know he put out a statement,
but just kind of the lack of fanfare they gave
him on the way out. And that's where it's like,
I think we all read the writing on the wall
that this was not either it was a letting go
or like we'd very much appreciate if you retired right now.
And again, who knows in two years. Maybe this these
this new CEO and the team, they can do some
great stuff and Xbox those new heights, or maybe it's
just a way to kind of usher it out. And
that's why you get someone that's not a big gamer
or doesn't care too much with the industry. Maybe I'm
assuming just because you can go, well, you're just here
to kind of crunch the numbers, right, you don't need
to worry about making people mad and all this stuff.
So I really don't know, but obviously it's like the
end of an era. And like when we talked about,
you know, cheap plug for Patroon on our podcast, like
ten years ago when this podcast started, like Reggie at Nintendo,
Seann Layne PlayStation, and Phil Spencer. He was like the
last piece of that kind of trio that was really
like I won't say our childhood, but are like our
later teen years and then into adulthood, Like that was
our like the E three's all that stuff, and again, uh,
kudos to Jeff Keeley. I remember maybe it was the
first or second Game Awards when he got all three
of them on stage. That was like a massive moment,
like we talked about, and that was just like a wow,
look at all this. So it is he is a
big part of history. It's just a question of I'm
going to talk about this with Tam I'm just very
curious in five ten years from now how he's like
looked upon, right, Like, is it favorably is it worse
than like what comes out? And I don't think anything malicious.
I just mean, like as far as choice is right,
because is he the guy that was under a lot
of pressure and tried his best or was he the
guy that maybe tanked the brand a little bit? And
we don't know. On the outside, it seems like it
was him, but again you don't you really, We really
have no idea what goes on in these board rooms
and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, very true. Yeah, I mean I think it's
it's a really interesting shift we've seen in the last
few years of I feel like there was the era,
like particularly with Reggie where it's like, oh, yeah, this
guy's like the CEO and of America. Everyone knows who
he is. He's a big personality. People love him, which
is like such a weird thing in a day and
age where like people are so anti CEO. Everyone hits
every CEO to think about how much people loved Reggie
and everything. Yeah, and like PlayStation was doing too, is
like Sean Laydon, where he was very like on the
stage kind of presence. You knew him, You you liked
this guy, even though obviously you don't know anything about him.
He's a sleazy businessman that you know. It affects so
many people's lives in terrible ways, of course, But and
then I feel like Xbox kind of was on that
train too, especially with that trio Phil Spencer, Sarabon and
Matt Booty. Especially now in the last few years when
Xbox has been doing like these developer showcases, and like
they've been doing more of the like really high budget
like presentations and those peoples and names and faces that
we've become familiar with, and I feel like there was
a little bit of time there where they actually were
doing like a really good job. It seemed like they
were actually they were being very transparent of what their
plans were in the next like a few months, year
or whatever, and they were like sticking to it. They
were being consistent. They were acquiring studios and seemingly giving
them by just to make all these cool games and
things like that. And then there was like that huge
shift and I feel like it for me, the big
thing was with Activision Blizzard. That's like where everything's been. Yeah,
I mean there's been a lot of downhill things that
have turned Xbox downhill, but for me, that was like
a huge one of like, wow, they just way overspent
on this, and it's been at the cost of tens
of thousands of developers they have had to lay off
to like justify this extreme purchase and then pairing that,
which is like the advancements of AI and then Xbox
and Microsoft in general being like all in on AI
and just getting rid of people left, right and center.
And I feel like we're in an era now. I
feel like, you know, it's funny, like what was it.
It was like a couple of weeks ago where they
and then Nintendo announced that Doug Bowser is like retiring
or maybe it's already gone. I don't know, and I
feel like we saw him. We saw him at the
Game Awards except an Award like a couple times, and
like we knew the direct maybe once or twice.
Speaker 2: Right, I think like his first one, because I think
I remember they did like a bowser joke with him
and stuff, but very few and yeah, he.
Speaker 1: Wasn't me like a personality thing and whether that was
him as a person who didn't want to like do
the Reggie thing. But I think that's like that's good,
you know, like we shouldn't have these parasocial relationships with
like CEOs of these huge companies that are probably terrible
people doing like shitty things all day long. And I
feel like just not even trying to keep up that
ruse is probably a good thing. And that's been the
case for PlayStation as well. Like ever since Sean Layden left,
we haven't really had someone who's had that same kind
of presence and with Xbox that's been these people for
a long time. So I I guess what I'm getting
at is like I kind of hope that we don't
really ever see this new CEO person, Like I I like,
I think, you know, do these developer directs show off
the developers show the people making the games, the people
that we actually care about, the artists who are making
the art that we are consuming. I think that's like
where our eyes should be focused and where you know,
we should we should be supporting those people. I don't
I don't want to see especially like man as as
you mentioned, like the amount of presentations where you could
just clip any thing. Phil Spencer and Sarah Bonn in particular,
those two in particular were saying and it was just
like within months sometimes even like a couple of weeks,
and they would like they would say a thing and
then the complete opposite thing.
Speaker 2: Was got crazy.
Speaker 1: It was so it became so fucked up and so gross,
and most of it was like just firing tens of
thousands of developers, and I just find it like really disgusting.
So I have very little faith that this change is
going to be anything better for Xbox, honestly, especially if
it's a person who's like seemingly background is like all
about AI and stuff like I don't know how. I
I guess AI games is probably good for the game
pass type of service, but it's not good for like
making long lasting works of art that are games that
people love and want to play, And I mean ever
since they even did that drastic increase the game pass,
I've been out and I don't really see myself getting
back in there to have like a constant sub and
want to be in that Xbox ecosystem anymore. They've kind
of pushed me and many other people out. So I
don't know what the heck this is gonna do. But
I don't I think it's really gonna be a better thing.
Even though I'm very anti Phils Bencer and Sarah Bonond,
I don't think this new person is gonna really turn
the sales in any sort of way. I think we're
just continuing on the same path.
Speaker 2: No, And I think it's because I'm a Taylor dropped
in discord. I think even that saying let's say this
person came in, it was a full on just you know,
they didn't know much Basbox. They heard the story, they
read it, and then just become I'm gonna revive this brand.
Like I like, let's say their goal was one they're
gonna try to be a good person too. They want
to get back to the three sixth year where they're competing.
They're up there. They have these great games. It's I
think the genies just kind of out of the bottle now,
you know. It's like, especially now when we see those
those Christmas sales, like what was that stupid thing that
beat the Xbox during Christmas? That kid's thing?
Speaker 1: Remember next the next playground?
Speaker 2: Actually? Yeah, And it's just like I think that's the
thing where even if this person had every intent, we're
gonna do even if they're like you know what, I
know they were doing the games come to PlayStation five,
We're actually not gonna do that anymore. We're actually gonna
exclusives now, we're gonna do that. It's just like I think,
now you're all almost the snowballs become too big to stop.
You know, it keeps going downhill and down here because
I now I feel like if you went the other way.
I think the problem is for the higher ups that
are Microsoft and everybody. I think maybe there is a
path within ten years or plus ten years to get
back to maybe where you can get to a third
brand to be a competitor. But that's the thing. Would
any of those people really want to sit around and
wait that long or do they just want to cash
and make the money and you know, sell Nintendo'll sell
to PlayStation. Right. So that's the thing where I think
the ecosystem is just so different. I can't see because
I saw people like analyzing her statement be like, oh,
she's saying that they want to return to the form
of Xbox that means exclusives back. It's like, no, they're
just saying a bunch of stuff on their great first day, right,
Like no one learned anything from Phil Spencer and Sarah Bond.
Speaker 1: Which for shareholders not for fans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and which to your point, Like, that's where I
when I started to question what was going on there.
I give Phil credit when he did that kind of
funny interview and he just fully admitted like all the
mistakes they did and how they lost that generation that
really screwed them. So that's where I was like, Okay,
when he says this stuff and then months later it's untrue,
It's like, are they just lying or done or again?
Is it just that was their intention? But then someone
else came and said no, like you're you gotta do this,
You are gonna put these games. When you just say
it's three games going to PlayStation, it's gonna be more right,
And that stuff will maybe find out at some point,
but it's just such a it's been such a rocky
road and I think it's just like a sad one.
So I don't know what's gonna happen. I think it's
just gonna be what we've talked about before, where Xbox
is gonna continue to eventually just develop into that that
third or like the biggest developer in the world, you know,
like the biggest gaming studio. And not that that's a
bad thing, but it's a sad thing because you know,
that's what Saga is now, right, Sega at one point
was this you know, monster and then it went away,
and it's gonna be sad where in ten years if
there's like I personally won't buy them because I'm like you,
I don't have games Pass and if the Steam Machine
does similar things, I don't need an Xbox. But it's
gonna be sad, But there's not that need to buy it.
It is just kind of a thing of the past,
you know, like there'll be a generation of my said,
don't grow up with like an Xbox for the next generation.
Don't even know what that is, right, It's just like
a VCR, like, oh yeah, that used to be like,
my girls have no idea if you were to say
what Saga is no idea. They know what Sonic is,
of course, but Saga even tho they see a lot
of no idea. It's just like a distant memory now
and that that's like sad growing up with that, where
even if it wasn't gonna be the biggest thing, I
kind of wish they found a way. And yeah, like
I said, just a very surprising kind of dump of
And it was on a Friday too, so that's what
hats how you know they wanted to bury it. I'm like, well,
the weekend's coming up. People won't talk about it, so
it's I don't know. It's I'm curious with everything with
the next like do they continue with directs? Did they
continue at Game of War like all this stuff, Like,
I really don't know. So it's gonna be interesting, but
I'm not I'm not hopeful. I'm not. Uh, maybe we'll
be surprised. Maybe two years were talking me here and
like look at all these changes, look what they did,
But I don't think we're gonna have had those conversations.
Speaker 1: Then, So no, I don't I don't think that'll be
I don't think that'll be the case. And yeah, like
even with the PlayStation last week closing Blue Point Games,
it's like really sad, like that seems like they'll one
studio qu keep open. It seems like they're they can
just most efficiently make really high quality remakes that like
sell pretty.
Speaker 2: Well and make it.
Speaker 1: How that happens, Yeah, it happens.
Speaker 2: All like all like this movie industry, it's all just
messed up right now. You hope at some point it's
going to bounce up. But yeah, good shot for Blue
Point because Sony didn't have their fair share of good
news either last week, and that was that's like you said,
it's just kind of a just felt like a no
brainer to keep around because it seems like there's always
games that they're remastering or remaking. So it's like PlayStation
is still producing, like they're still doing exclusive games. So
you don't think in two three years you can be
something for Blue Point to work on anything like that,
Like well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's kind of crazy. Rumors are that like
they had been put on a live service God of
War thing that is just that was like canceled and
therefore it's like well, I guess we'll just close the
studio too. And it's like, wow, you think did they
did they want to make this game or did like
the previous guy just like forced them, because they forced
every studio to make their live service games. And like
the only one that seemingly survives is this Horizon one
that we talked about a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's maybe a mini topic some
point or Brendan Butter, I don't know, but that's worth
like looking. I'd love to look at all the games
that were ips and live services and what games we think,
like like last of it's not that I was excited
for but last week Okay, I can kind of see
that aspect right that world, yes, but God of War,
Like who's sitting around other than That's how I know.
It's just someone with a stat sheet being like, here's
our five biggest ips, let's make a live service game.
But like even the Spider Man one that went away,
I was excited, Like I was like excited for that.
I would have been excited to be swinging with you
guys playing. And then I can see because the game
set with Peter and Miles right and there's other spier
people you can bring in. So it's like not saying
it would have been success, but it's like, Okay, I
can see you get there, big ip and set for
multiple characters in this franchise, right, God of War, the
way that game plays and the way like that franchise is,
who in the right mind is like, let's make a
live service of God a War. You know, it just
doesn't just doesn't make much sense, even like what the
rumors without Assassin Creed thing that's happening. It's just like,
I don't know, I feel like most of is are
feel like a pretty solo experience, like I just never
feel and I just it's sad because I just feel
like since this podcast has started, we talk about that
flashback episodegain cheap Blugg joined Patreon to get that. But
I feel like, you know, we're not always the smartest people.
We didn't start off the smartest podcasters. But I just
don't understand how some of there's people like us that
have never made these billion dollar decisions where and other
people in the world too just say like on paper,
this doesn't look like a good idea, and that turns
out not to be a good idea. It's just like
I just I guess it's like what people say when
you're so far off.
Speaker 1: For the next quarter. I feel like, right like they
make a change just to like, yeah, all they don't
care about the long term, they just care about like
the short term.
Speaker 2: This will look good. Yeah, so yeah, so yeah wild
not a great week. So hopefully at least Resident Eels
coming out, there'll be some good news and you know.
Speaker 1: And hopefully I feel like Capcom is pretty unproblematic right now,
right Ip not firing anyone, I don't think like doing
a good job. N they're probably horrendous people. I don't know. Well,
let's let's put that one to bed. Let's take our
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Speaker 2: Nice. Yeah, And we're gonna draw up the on the
main Fever are gonna drow up like a preview episode,
and we're gonna drop the Resident Evil Degeneration review because
that is does have Leon Scott Kennedy in it, so
we'll put that on as a little taster. But yeah,
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Taylor and Kirkland. You don't got to do it. Should
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lots of good stuff and yeah, Golden Gee's voting starts
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we listened to a lot of clips from our third
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it was it was a really good time to just
some good full circle moments and some just good laughs
and some good I think all of us had a
head shaking moment of like, oh man, I wish I
could improve on X, Y and Z.
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Uh here's a quick ad break. We'll be right back. Okay,
we are back. We're gonna do some Resident Evil series rankings.
We have game rank in the games, of course, we
have best levels, we have best bosses, slash enemies. I
guess what are you gonna call that? And I'll just
a couple of character show outs as well. Travis, where
do you think we should start? Should we build up
to the game ranking? Sure, we cannot the other ones, Quicker,
I did just.
Speaker 2: Want to ask you, though, how many games did you
have ranked?
Speaker 1: Yes? So I do have ten games ranked, but I
will admit that the bottom three I've merely dabbled in them.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm wondering if I'm missing one because I have eight,
but I have a purposeful leave off because I haven't.
People know I haven't played in them. I'll say why,
and then I'm curious what your ninth one is because
I don't know or your or one of them.
Speaker 1: Do you want me to just tell you what it is? Now? So?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you? Because? So full transparency, I left
five off my list because I've only played that way
back in a little bit and I was gonna play
it on my PlayStation premium. But I'm willing to hear
more concrete stuff on these remake rumors because I know
some of them. You should still play the original, I know,
but if they're gonna make a remake of a game
that I always like, if you want, I'd rather play that,
So I'm waiting to see if five gets confirmed, but
that's the only one that was like the Okay, I'll
leave this off the list for now, but yeah, what
is what are the leave offs for you? So?
Speaker 1: Yeah, eight is one through eight, and I have not
played one a whole lot, but I've played a little
bit of it. Uh, Resident Evil Code Veronica and residin
Evil's zero zero?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, Okayair.
Speaker 1: Have you ever touched zero from your life?
Speaker 2: That sounds familiar? But let me see the cover and
I will know because whether I owned it, No, I didn't.
Oh yeah, no, I know this cover. I don't like
that that too right away? Something about it? So no,
I don't if I might like dabbled by, I've never
uh not like one to three or Forveronica, where I
have fond memories of it.
Speaker 1: So I mean I probably should have just put seven
games on here, because I have barely played the bottom
three on my list, But like, you know what, why
not even ten sounds kind of fun? Yeah, but yeah,
let's let's go over to I want to hear what
when you thought of best bosses or enemies or villains
however you want to phrase that, What were the things
that like first came to mind, and I guess in
any how, I don't know if I did like a
top five for mine, I don't know what you did here.
Speaker 2: Yeah I did top five. So for me, it's all
about I think other it's it's kind of a mix up,
Like I feel like it's definitely a vibe and a
look in what they brought to the table of how
they made me feel. I didn't necessarily go with the
boss battles because I feel like a lot of the
boss battles are they get bigger, they get bigger, they
turn to a bug or dragon and you shoot, yeah,
exactly right where even though like it's on my list,
but the end of six and Leon's story, I love
that big bug dragon thing like that was a fun
build up of he's shooting things out, you're lightning. You
gotta hold up a rod and a lightning bar hits
it and you gotta make sure you can't like so
the boss Bulls could be a different list, but they
kind of turn into another. So I think it was
look and it was also just the feeling I got
from I have two though that are a bit more
story based. But I'd say my, my, my, favorites are
really the ones that just they stick with you after
the game, and it's when you see an image of
them you get taken back to, oh man, how I
felt in that moment, whether it was right now or
whether it was back as a kid. So like like
even though number two, when I get to there, it's
just kind of like, oh, like really, it's like, yeah,
it's just that the look, the feel of it. Yeah,
So that's where when it was a vibe and kind
of if it's stuck with me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I, Yeah, there's a couple in here that
I feel like it's really not for the mechanics necessarily,
more just yeah, the vibe around the character generally, So yeah,
give me your.
Speaker 2: List, all right. So at number five had to have
her on here was Lady D. I could not believe
when I popped up Village this year and we'll talk
about later in my rankings, and I talked about it
in Death a couple of weeks ago, so you can
find it there. But was very surprised how little she
was in the actual game. Also, I think that was
a big probably mistake by Resident Evil Capcon in the
in the rearview, being oh people really loved her in
the marketing, we probably like they probably should have swapped
her with Heisenberg and had her be the one like
you're trying to get to, but very very memorable. I
think if she was in a little bit longer, I
could have her up there. But even then, like I
could make a case for her being number one, like
most of these meals, I could make a case for
being number one, but just for that and that's like
a little sign like her ice climbers all our daughters.
They're great additions to very fun, very honestly, yeah, the memes,
but like I think there was something cool about this
and wasson't evil because other than six what we talked about,
to me, that's like okay, naked ladies or that that's
not sexy. Like what was sexy about this was the
vibe and the ore was just that seductress. It wasn't
just like, oh, here's nudity. It was that feeling of
oh she's bringing you in. She's very intoxicating. But then
she's a monster, right And even then on that front,
I think she's one of my favorite boss battles in
village because I love with you being on top of
the tower and she's flying around in the air. So yeah,
I got Lady d at five. I had to put
Albert Wesker at four just as like an overall like
he just pops up and you just hate this guy. Man,
you just hate him. He's always doing stuff. He's always
one step ahead, so he's kind of like a like
a legacy pick. Like when I think of certain characters
from Resident Evil, I can't help but think of that
blonde bastard with the glasses, right, Like I say, like,
it just pops up all especially the older games, because
it was always weird to have all these monsters and
then him running around dropping dialogue and like, oh, I'm
doing this, this, this, Then he runs off, right, So
I got there. This one I think I love for
a multitude of reasons. He's a cheesy character. But I
can't know if I pronounced the right name, but Jack
Jack Crazer our quoas are. He's the big army dude
for Residy Old four that like trained with Leon back
in the day and like the war he was like
his oh yeah, and you had that boss battle where
he's like you it's a calm scene where you're like
on the ground and he's jumping up there and he
like rips his shirt off. I just love that he's
like the cheesy pick. He's someone like and actually I'm
a big Leon guy, so I like the build up
of Oh it's a proge too, always a terrorist. Oh
he's a monster, and it's a build up, build a
build up, and uh no, I just I think I
love that story of him and Leon and this kind
of master and apprentice. But he's also just very nineties,
late eighties cheesy coded. Like I said that that boss
battle of him in this coliseum where he has a
shirt off. He's slowly turning into a monster. But I
remember that both from the remix and as a kid
just being also challenging as too. So that's where that
stuck with me for a bit. And then two and
one are to me, Oh man, I kind of forgot.
Speaker 1: Oh you forgot one? Yeah you number five? Could it
get bumped off?
Speaker 2: Lady D was five? But you know what, then I
feel like I have to bump it sounds weird. I
know this doesn't make sense in my mind, but I
feel like I have to bump out Albert and move
a whisker. I'm gonna put I can't even remember the name.
I gotta put the family, uh Wesker, sorry now Whisker,
No Wesker. I gotta put the Bakers from seven. I
completely forgot. But they ah, they gotta go up, they
gotta high, they gotta go to like, they gotta go
to like you know what, They're going all the way
to two. So hang on my last minute. My new list,
Lady D Yeah, my new list five, Lady four is Jack.
Three is now Nemesis. Nemesis just a classic look, classic feel.
I think it is kind of like a lesser than
mister X. But those two and then three is uh
the Baker's you said, right? Or is it Barbers?
Speaker 1: That was your third? So now two is the Baker.
Speaker 2: No, I'm putting two at Bakers. Yeah, and then number
one is mister X. I like mister X has burned
my mind from childhood, just falling around. Especially I think
they did such a great job in the remake, the look,
the feel, like that's a character that I'm always bummed
is not in there. But same thing I think with
mister X and Nemesis, those are just iconic villains that
when I think a resident evil, same thing Wesker, who's
now settling on the list. I just think of them
and they have different things. I love Nemesis for just
you keep killing them killing. He's getting bigger, bigger, hunting
you down. He and it's that point where you just
feel like it's a joke. Now you like the amount
of times he comes back. And I love the death.
I love the death where you just get this massive
laser and you just burn them up. That's great U.
But yeah, the family from seven Man, they are scary,
they are gruesome, they're gross, so they definitely deserve to
I can't believe I forgot about them, but they are
up there. And then uh yeah, mister X, just that
that idea of when you're a kid and this thing
is just following you, right. Sometimes the music's there, Sometimes
it's just the footsteps and oh when you're in a
room and you just hear those steps, it's like damn.
And especially too because it's a double it's scary because
he could pop up, especially if you're in a room
with multiple doors. You don't know where he's coming. That's
the worst, but the worst too. It's like a scary aspect.
But then as a gameplay, aspect, it's great because you'll
be on a roll and sometimes he comes at the
very worst times where you have your low on health,
you got nothing and the weapons really do nothing against him,
right But or you're in the middle of doing a
puzzle where you're trying to lock something like oh, and
that happened to me in the Residu'll four play through
where I'm like, oh, I'll come back and do this,
and I never got to because by the time I
was running away took me to a different part and
then I was lost of it. And that's why I
want to replay two again at some point. But yeah,
mister X is number one. I just I love the mechanic,
the look, and the feeling I get when I see
Like I think, if I looked at some of House
right now and saw mister X trembles right now, you
know Nemesis, I just know it's over. You know, like
you're not doing much against Nemesis. So uh yeah, Lady
d Jack Razer, Nemesis, the Baker family right or Barker,
I'm screwing Bakers, the Bakers and then mister X or
my top five.
Speaker 1: Okay, we have a similar list for sure. A quick
honorable mention for me is just the I mean, I
you know, I I have a specific one here, but
in general, the zombies are always great in these games.
You know, all the different like any types, but even
just the basic ones and the different like I can
so easily picture like the different ones you'll see in
like resid Evil two versus Residuevil three versus Like four,
And I particularly love just all the dirty like medieval
decked out ones and Resident Evil four and like the
cast of sequence, like you'll have ones with shields and
like maces or like other medieval weapons, crossbows, things like that. Uh,
and of course just have like that classic like kind
of zombie dirpiness to them. So shout us to those guys.
Number five for me was The Bakers as well, which
is maybe a slightly weird pick just because I haven't
actually finished that game. I don't even think I've ever
made it out of the house technically, uh, but I've
played a lot of the house and it's and they're terrifying,
and even just like that like initial dinner scene, just
the vibes in general, right, it's it's and so much
of it is like you're in their house. So you're
getting infused with so much lore about like these characters
in the family all around, So shout us to the Bakers.
Number four for me, actually have like an enemy type
here at the liquors from Resident Evil two. Those are
like the the ones that have like their brain out there,
like crawling.
Speaker 2: On the roof. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who are like terrifying initially, like I remember when
you first encounter them in like the lower levels of
the police station, and then eventually learning that like, Okay,
they can't see you, so if you're like very quiet,
you can like sneak around them. Uh, just like having
to get like the precise shots on like their brain
specifically to the damage until you get like better explosive
waste to light them on fire and stuff. Yeah, but
really terrifying enemy that I think you know, by the
end of the game you're pretty comfortable comfortable against them,
but I really, yeah, I can just vividly picture like
the first couple of times you bump into them and
Resonable two and they're terrifying. Number three I had Lady
d who again, I mean, I think these like hunt
I don't know if there's like an archetype name for
this in RESONUEVL, but like the hunter type bosses, the
ones that like will chase you around the different areas. Yeah, yeah,
like those obviously just have yeah, and like and and
the fact that they're the ones that you can't kill specifically,
you know, those ones are very terrifying and yeah, just
like obviously she's like a very hot character, but also
to her just being like a freaking beast, being so
tall and terrifying and like, you know, obviously some of
these like cut scenes are very ingrained in your mind too,
when she like picks you up and stuff like that.
So yeah, just like insane presence on that character amazing,
like voice performance too, even just like when you're because
in that game, right you're getting just like shots of
like the villains hanging out together and like talking about stuff,
and you're not like in the room or whatever. You're
just like getting like Lord dumps, I guess, I guess.
And even seeing like her dynamic bouncing off other characters
like Heisenberg and stuff is always a good time. Number
two for me is another enemy type, but I went
with the Regenerators from Resident Evil four. They're the ones
that you encounter like in the lab for the first time,
and their vital organs are in like the weird places,
so you have to use like the heat vision to
like find where they're like vital organ is and they'll just, yeah,
obviously regenerate if you don't shoot that. But just like
their dirty float floppy bodies and they're always like falling around.
Then they can be so terrifying at times, and you
encounter them in like a really dark area where the
power is out, so you have to go down from
the power on. So extremely iconic enemy for me, one
of the most terrifying.
Speaker 2: Also, I don't unless he's your number one that I
can't remember his technical name, but that guy that does
like the flips and he crawls in the pipes in
that same mission too. He's like very tall and bony,
has like the claws and he has like a kind
of bulbous head.
Speaker 1: But he's getting bulbous head guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like he's very tall. He's like very you see
a lot of skinny and ribs and stuff. He has
like long fingernails, and he like he can flip and
he does this, but he's always cross. He'll like jump
jump out of like the side shafts and stuff. He's
in kind of lead up to your guys around there.
It's like you kind of have to get there's one
mission where I think specifically the timer is going down,
you have to just kind of avoid him till he
gets to you.
Speaker 1: So okay, I think, yeah, that does sound familiar. Yeah,
and then I guess before I well, you know, I'll
just real mind it is mister X as well, uh,
the ultimate Hunter type, and I mean I think, you know,
spoiling for my best levels up here. But just the
police station in Resinuaval two is such an amazingly designed
level of the of the series in general, and like, yeah,
the the just the ways that that kind of slowly opens.
And you've mentioned it too, like when you're like in
that main lobby, that's generally a pretty comforting spot for
me in Residuevil too, because like most of the zombies
are kind of in the antler areas and the side rooms,
but when you're like out in the main lobby and
it's like, Okay, this is a pretty safe spot. There
might be one or two zombies here, but it's not
too bad. And then like when mister X starts bump
blood busting through those doors, and you're like shit, and
of course I can see you because it's a big,
huge open area and yeah, just the pacing outside the doors. Uh,
terrifying character.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean when you finally get it for
the rooftops and you like jump scares you multiple times
and then he just comes back later in the game
when you're even like past the uh past that part
of the game too. Just yeah, amazing villain. So I
think maybe the controversial picks I did, I didn't have
West Girl on my list. I feel like I need
maybe I need more time in Resident Evil one or
something like that. But for me, he isn't like I
know he is. He's an iconic imagery for the series,
but I can't picture a bunch of great moments that
I've personally experienced with him. So maybe I'm forgetting ones.
But maybe I've seen more time in Reside Evil one,
because from what I have played, he's like obviously one
of the he's like a good guy at the start
of the game, he's like.
Speaker 2: One of the Yes, it's like a twist where it's like, all,
what's going on here? So I think that and that
probably way it sticks with you as a younger lad
to where it's like good guy, who's you know, a
little questionable and then of course bad so.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I was a little I was pretty lout
down with Nemesis, especially after playing two Love and Mister
X and then being like, Okay, this is gonna be that,
but it's it is less of that, and it's more
like cut seene uh, predetermined moments when he'll show up
and then like certain boss fights and stuff.
Speaker 2: But yeah, not as well man, and like the monsters,
the med giant rocket on his arm. Yeah, like how
they're not put that in a movie yet. He's a
cinematic character, you know, that's cinema right there.
Speaker 1: Cool look good for the game, but yeah, I think
mechanically not one of my favorites perhaps, and I think
three is just yeah, it's fine, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah I found the guy. His name is the for
Durgo if I'm saying that right, This guy, Oh yeah, yeah,
he's he's a tough to mess with, that guy.
Speaker 1: So yep, Yeah, there's there reson. Evil four just has
so many, so many enemies it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even all the ones right like even now
terrible enemies. I'm playing right now with six, because I'm
playing eight of story those like fly things that turned
to a marine. Oh my god, I hated those things.
I had to start.
Speaker 1: So funny to me that like ten minutes of that
campaign you have to go through a hallway that has
like fifteen of them. It's like, what the f The
basin in this game is crazy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you gotta shoot these flies and then in
terms of a bigger bug you have to shoot and
like you, I feel like in that submarine one, you
got so lack of ammo too.
Speaker 1: I was that was a I ran past a lot
of enemies in the in the submarine area.
Speaker 2: I had to I eventually gonna take them all down.
I had to.
Speaker 1: It was tight corridors, so it's hard to.
Speaker 2: Actually it was brutal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh okay, let's move over to best levels and
I put my list together, and am I happy with
the order? I may be making a game that was
a tough one. Yeah, I'm gonna do. Okay. I have
three honorable mentions here, so let me do those real quick.
One is what I mentioned when we talk about Reside
of a couple of weeks ago, and that is the Residonavil
six catacombs area. It's just so weird to me. It's
just like an under huge underground crypt and you're fighting
like not like like zombies, but like medieval like magic.
Speaker 2: Zombies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very Indiana Jones. It's very silly. Uh and
there's some other weird enemies in there too, And it
just felt like for me, it was like, out of
all these games I've played, it was one of the
most unique areas, at least for the series. You know,
in terms of other video games, like a crypt with zombie,
you know, undead in it is very common, but for
Resident Evil, it just felt extremely strange. So I liked
that for how how weird it was. Showed us to
Resion Eval eight house. What is the with the baby
the crew baby in the in the house with the puppets.
It's house Bellevue, I can't remember.
Speaker 2: That's a good one. That's a fun when you run
around the rooms and times up. That's that's a good one.
Speaker 1: It's a very like amnesia type level.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: So shows to that one and then kind of a
normable mention just the Raccoon City streets like and specifically
two and three two. You don't really go out there
much like when you first ditch the police station, you
like go up onto the streets a bit, and then
you go into like the gun store, and you go
through a couple streets, and then Residuaval three you do
more of it. And I just something about like Raccoon City,
like during the outbreak. I really like that kind of
street level part of it, and that's why I was
really exciting and Resonuaval three when I got to see
more of that, and I definitely wanted more because I
think these are kind of more introductory or like transition
transition type areas. You're not spending like a ton of
time in them necessarily, But I just really like the
vibe of Raccoon City during the outbreak. It's always night
time when you're out there, of course, and I'm really
curious to see how much if any of like the
actual streets we get to explore in req waymen in particular,
but show.
Speaker 2: Up, did you see because you talk about I am
listening up so that when you guys talked about the
state of play. But leon going back.
Speaker 1: To the back to this police station.
Speaker 2: Goodness, the double of Racing City and then this hotel.
We've got some good locations coming up. I cannot wait
to go back there.
Speaker 1: Definitely uh into my top five and maybe again controversial,
I'm gonna go with the Resident Evil seven house, the
Baker House, and again, haven't completed this game yet. I
don't think, like I said, I don't think I've actually
complete this zone in particular, but I do think it's
extremely well designed, has like that pt energy to it,
even just like the earlier sections of it, Like just
just in general, the atmosphere is so incredibly good there.
I think it was really them cooking with like what
does first person for the series mean for the first
time before they went Resident Evil eight and it's like
huge scale and everything, and it was just like creepy house,
creepy fucking family, really, you know, gorgeous graphics like we're
just gonna scare the hell out of you. Doors, slamming
shut windows, things banging on the windows, you know, weird lights.
Speaker 2: Even the dad has that kind of Lady d mystery.
There's a portion where he's just walk around the house,
so you're doing like some of the greatest hits as
well too.
Speaker 1: Such a such a claustrophobic area. Yet it's like, man,
I'm just in a house, Like I should be able
to get out of this freaking house, but you just
can't because every doorway is locked or blocked in some way. Yeah,
shout us to the residental seven house. Let's see, game time,
I'm changing things. Game time decisions, I respect. I'm putting
the Racoon City Streets at number five, Baker House at
number seven, or sorry at number four. Big, I know
my order. So many numbers in this series. I was
gonna shout out the resident Evil eight. The village, just
like the after every kind of bespoke area, there's like
four whatever, like big zones like the pas the castle
where they're going to the house Bella. Yeah, now whatever,
it is Moreau's area, and then you always come back
to the village area and I always I like that.
I like the way it actually connected the different zones
made it feel like a bigger, breathing world. I like
just the snowy atmosphere and residue. I thought it was
really nice as well. I think it's not quite as
intricately designed, but even just going through the different house areas,
fighting the werewolves and stuff. So yeah, that ultimately be
my my honorable mention. But shout it to that area
and again yeah, reckon City Streets number five, the Baker
House number four, number three. I'm gonna go with Castle
Dimatres Q from as an evil village as well. I
just I just love a huge, uh you know, elegant
palace castle. Like why I remember like just the under
like the sewer area like beneath the mansion that's really
just dark and grungy and nasty and filled with like
seward water and stuff. And then up to like contrasting
that with just like the gorgeous dining halls and main
rooms and stuff like that. Uh you know, admittedly a
huge area, you know, but it is it is one
kind of connected zone. And then like the epic boss
fight at the top when Lady D is transforming going
all crazy, So yeah, shout outs to the palace there.
I'm gonna go with Resident Evil to Police Station at
number two again, you know, really probably the area I
know the best out of this series, partly because I
did two playthroughs of that and that was somewhat recently
and so I kind of even though they change up
some of the locked doors and keys and things like
that on the second playthrough or whether you're playing Claire Leon,
I should say, I still like I know it so well,
really like how it's designed. I think it's like level
design wise is just probably the best, and it's it's
interesting that it is like was a museum is like
now a police station like that makes it have a
really weird aesthetic to it that's really strange, and I
quite like that as well. Obviously huge area tons to it,
So yeah, that's the residentavial to police station. Also an
area that like you think you're gonna be there for
like an hour or two, and then it's like, damn,
I've spent literally half the game here. I've been in
this police station for like four or five.
Speaker 2: It feels weird when you leave it, You're like I thought, yeah,
at one point you're like is this the whole game,
and like, oh, there's other locations.
Speaker 1: So very much surprised me. And then coming back to
Resident Evil four for my number one, and I'm just
picking the castle, which is admittedly again a huge area
that you're kind of going in and out of various
boss fights. Here, you're going through gardens inside, going through
again very lady d castle kind of vibes inside, but yeah, overall,
just I just love a good castle. I particularly love
a Resident Evil castle, and Resident Evil four is just
a great game. So that area is extremely well designed,
really good puzzles in there, great enemies I like this. Yeah,
the fodder enemies. I mentioned those already in this area.
So yeah, those tho would be my top five. Well,
I guess I showed out like eight there, so my
top eight Resident Evil vocals.
Speaker 2: Okay, we got some crossover, especially in the top half,
but I got two at the them that you don't have.
So as much as I was maybe a little let
down with the game, I have to put this in here.
I have to put Chris Redfield's message or mission in
village because Okay, I play these games for the horror.
I've said this before. I like the games more that
it is seven and two where it's like, oh I
only got three bolts, I got one knife, this and that.
But I think there was just something about you got
wears out there, all these monsters, and now Chris is
in there, and this is like Pete Chris where it's
like all these games he's building up, building up to
be just like a bigger army guy and then when
you pull up your load out and she's like a
top on that episode, but thousands of bullets, hundreds of grenades.
It's just like, and I don't want a game where
because in six they have that option where you can
have an infinite AMMO, and I don't do that. I go, no,
I don't want that. I want to find the AMMO.
But there was just something there where was it was
cool to kind of finally have like a god mode
sheet code on Resident Evil where it's like, you know,
all these things that always scaring you, not today, and
like I said, I don't even Chris so much as
a character, but I just there was something about that
that really stuck with me, Like that's one of the
most fun just kind of wish fulfillment of years of
being scared and you're running for your life for these monsters.
Not this time, you're just you're going ham you have
like a little like you can call a nukes and ball,
like you're like you're just the peak of that. So
that one's just kind of pure fun and wish fulfillment.
And then this one, it's just one location. It's not
the longest, but there's some I like about it. I
can't remember the guy's name but it's in Resident Evil
four when you are it's the Spanish guy when you
guys are trapped in that house and it's just the
downstairs with like the six windows and upstairs with six windows,
and it's like the zombies invasion. Now this is more
so back in the day when I was a kid,
but the remake did it well too. It's just the
idea of like now once call duty to Marvel Zombies.
That was kind of me went back in that day
where you see all these zombie movies where there's hoares
and horses zombies characters. It's the first time I felt
that in a video game where there isn't evils, that
the points you never had that right, Like there was
sometimes you get a room with like five or six,
but this was there's just gonna be waves of them coming.
They're gonna be and especially in that too. I can't
remember if it's the original, but in the remake where okay,
you have your boards and you get bored up, but
it's not like a Lord of the Rings where it's like, oh,
you can just keep going in two towers and kick
over the ladder and then it comes up you kick
it over. This was like events, you're gonna run out
of boards and you're just gonna have to consume your
aml And I remember there's one point where I was
down to like five bullets and that was it, Like
I used everything in this room, like oh and I'm
just running around waiting for someone to die get stuff.
So that house Invasion just felt like like made me
feel like, Okay, I'm gonna zombie invasion movie. So that's
the number four. Much like you. Uh, these top three
were similar, just in different orders. Number three I got
the castro rest four just the design everything, It's just
that's the perfect where you talk about with six, where
it feels like it goes overboard on that you know,
the under state like underage area. This feels like the
perfect balance of Okay, it's still resident evil, but it's
a little more and but beautiful looking area. Some of
the better puzzles and resident Evil for as well in
that area. That's also where you I'm pretty sure that's
where you swap overas Ashley for a little bit. And
I think that's it. Yeah, that's a very.
Speaker 1: Funny guys in the Night, the Knights in the Armor.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and you have like the thing you gotta
shoot and turn on they freeze like, and that's a
Usually I don't really like those type of missions, notorious
hater of the MJ missions and the Spider Man game,
but there's something in that game. It works, and I
love it's kind of that Resident Evil too callback where
you run through that area. So when you're as Leon,
you get through the area, you know it. But now
it's like the Chris Redfield thing where it's okay, now
you come in and you've got your guns and you're
not ashually run for your life. It's okay, I can
take these things down. But yeah, that castle overall is
just a great look, a great vibe. Yeah, even the
it's a sucker game mechanic that is in hundreds of
games probably, but just that Ashley has to hit the
switches and you got to protector again. That's one where
it's like, man, when I'm getting low and I don't
have any I'm just got the pistol. It's like the
pressure's on. You're feeling it. You're starting to sweat because
you're seeing poor Ashley and there's two guys on her
and you got one bow left. What you're gonna do.
You gotta run over. So yeah, the Castle number two,
I got the house from Resident Evil seven you spoke about,
but it's just abviously you do go out and then
at one point you do end up on a boat.
I'm not sure if you've seen this before down, but
you do end up on a boat, which the boat
is actually a cool design too. But that house is
that house is a special I think also with the levels. Yeah,
we were dond the same, but in that same elk
of just favorite locations or locations that pop in my
mind right away with Resident Evil or even just gaming
right like not even horror games like gaming alone now
when I played that game with the house and also
it's a game that brought me back into the series,
but that house is get a stick in my mind.
You hit the nail on the head, and that's why
I was always so excited. It very much was pt
didn't happen and we're gonna make that. Maybe they never
said that, but definitely a few of those depths that
were in that game definitely had that in their mind
because it feels very similar to that. And that's not
a bad thing because we never got pet so it's
not like a It was kind of that scratch the itched,
So they kind of encapsulate everything that I wanted and
you didn't have some weird Toda kagemisms going on, but
uh that and then number one you spoke kindly of it.
But yeah, the police Precinct everything in there, but just
even specifically too, like once you do the medallions and
you're in there with the three floors and just even
little character stuff of when you walk in and you
find your desk, it's like what for you know, great
first day leon or whether ever just that type of
stuff where it really there's so many games, the movies
and shows where it's okay, this location has been attacked
this and that, but you never truly feel it just
for Okay, this is a set. They have a building
and have multiple rooms, multiple situations. It feels like, okay,
this was a a couple hours ago, a fully living,
breathing police station that now has just been hit and
uh yeah, and the right amount of darkness the even
the library, it's like that's a very lit place, but
that has a cool look to it. So uh no,
the police Precinct is just like obviously for many people
I think would be probably in I think most Resident Evil.
Long term fans are gonna have it. It's top five.
It's such iconic location. There's a reason they ended that
trailer off of you know, Leon going back there. But
uh yeah, I am a big sucker anytime I'm in there.
That's a happy place.
Speaker 1: So mm hmm, great picks, thank you. Okay, that just
leaves the game ranking. So you have eight on your list? Yeah,
I got okay, let me let me blast through my
bottom three. Then then we'll both be at eight and
we can kind of go back and forth and see
how many we have in common on the on this
journey up here. But yeah, I so my bottom three.
At ten, I have Code Veronica, nine, I have zero,
and then eight I have Resident Evil. One. Games I
have not played much of, as I've mentioned already, maybe
the first you know section of these first like hour
or two of them. It's tricky for me. It's really
hard to go back to fixed camera angles, tank controls,
horrendous inventory systems in Resident one, the most dog shit
voice acting I've ever heard live. Like, like, some of
these games are quite dated, and I don't have the nostalgia
for this type of game, so it's really hard for me.
To go back to it. Particularly the inventory system really
bothers me. It just really sucked in these earlier games.
It's really just annoying more than anything. So yeah, I
do need to spend more time with these games. But
more realistically, I'm gonna wait for remakes, which I think
are coming for at least it sounds like Code Veronica
is happening. That's like extremely rumored these days, so I'd
really like to give that game another shot. But even
when I played that one, like some of the voice
performances and stuff weren't weren't working for me. I feel
like I'm I'm a little spoiled now how good these
recent remakes have been. Yeah, so it's hard for me
to go back to some of these older ones. So yeah,
not really a fair shake. But I have technically played
some of these games, so I wanted to at least
include them. I think other than this, the only game
I haven't beat would be seven, and I've played like
a decent amount of that one, So just to put
that on the record in terms of how much I've
played these games. But yeah, that was I guess the
Resident Evil one? Was that my number eight? So what
was your what's your number eight, what's bottom of your list?
Speaker 2: My number eight is resid Evil. So now I will
say there's not a single game as far as there's
a couple of games on here that are the older ones,
and they're just on there. I'd say purely for nostalge.
I enjoy them at the time, But at the same
time I I a couple of years ago the same
thing like you tried to do the Resident Evil one
game and playing nowadays, like I'm not gonna spend too
much time with this, like I'm happy where it was,
And same thing with Veronica, like you said, it seems
like that is the next one up to bat maybe
next year or a little bit after. So I'm excited,
but they do appear on this list. But six, all
these games I would now pass. At least six was
a game I'm excited to eventually get to five, see
if I can have that experience. But six was a
game I was scared to fully dive into and I
had a lot of fun with it. Is a Resident
Evil game? Really not too much, you know like it
it there's some isms, there's a little moments, there's a
few things from the franchise. You can look and say, okay,
that is Resident Evil. And obviously I'm saying withstanding the
characters right, because of course eight as and there and
Chris and really I'm sure, but like the feeling I
said before, even the boxes are changed, right, even the hut,
which I hate the hut. I hate the Iron Man huts,
so but I respected it for the swings and even
now I'm playing a story, I'm having fun time. And
I don't know when because the next couple of months
are gonna be busy, but I have PlayStation Premium until June,
and I would like to play the stories because they're
just very crazy and very out there. It's like I
almost appreciate more as like a fun Resident Evil what if.
And this is a game that does get me excited
to see Leon back, because like, what do you do
with the character that's been through all this stuff? So yeah,
Resident Evil six firmly in last place, even though I
enjoyed it more than I thought I was going to
when we talked about a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: So nice, Yeah, I mean, that's that's my number seven.
So I can continue off of here. A game that
you know for sure falls towards the bottom of the ranking,
even though I do really like what it is in
a way, you know, it's not a great game, but
it's just a dumb, fun action action flick. I really
like the structure of it. I think there are some
swings that they take that are really cool. And it's
just the fact that the story is completely nonsense gold
pacing kind of sucks that really kind of tear it
down ultimately. But it's a very ambitious game. I love that.
It's part of what makes Resident Evil as a series
have such vastly different vibes to it, like comparing the
grounded small scale of seven to six, and it's funny
that those end up being, like, you know, games adjacent
to each other in the series, even though they feel
like wow, you feel like you would start with one
and then end with the other or something. But it's
it's that just goes to show how much whiplash the
series can have at times. Sometimes it is really horror vibes,
really grounded. Sometimes it's really bombastic, action movie, cheesy all
that kind of fun stuff, very quippi, and so six
is definitely on one end of that spectrum for sure,
and I like what it is, but yeah, not a
great game ultimately, So yeah, number.
Speaker 2: Seven, number seven, okay, my number seven is a resident
evil three here. I think I enjoyed it. I agree
with you. Camp was on air or priorly when you
talked about how it felt like a little unfinished and rush,
it definitely feels like that. It just feels again another's
other people tell about there's missing parts from it, so
that could help. There's just even little mechanics from when
I played the remakes where the four just feels smoother.
There's a little stuff where just it's like, why didn't
they do this camera? I might have it in my Oh,
I should write I had this a couple of tons.
I forgot to pull them up before any notes I
had with three, and I don't. That's the problem with
all the I was gonna say when I did a
couple of weeks ago when I did my kind of
updates of the games i'd played here, and it was
all resonual, and I have a bunch of notes for
them three. I had no notes other than at one
point in camera the guy that's not Jill Valentine, the
guy you're playing with, but there's a one point in
the mission where he has to record his voice and
play it somewhere. He's like, WHOA, what sci fi type
of stuff is this, which is like that's just nothing now,
But like I didn't have much it was. It was
an enjoyable experience. I had a good time with it.
But like even like even with two and four, right away,
as I go, I could replay this again, I could
get into where three. I was kind of just happy
where it was. I probably will get to it at
some point because I still enjoyed it. It just kind
of felt like just lesser than the experiences even the
remakes as well, lesser than I have with the Old
Age Lost. These games just kind of run together. I
remember a few things, but with the update now, yeah,
three just didn't stick with me as much as I
was hoping. I agree with you. I like the streets.
I love seeing obviously it's more zombies, but just that
kind of riot like function as far as k you're
on the streets now of raccoon sitting and you're seeing
the fallout of everything. I do like that. And obviously
I did shout in Nenesley's in my top three, so
I enjoyed those boss battles. I thought that was fun,
and I even like the hospital. There's a hospital mission
you go to that's a good time. But even then, too,
like the characters, I don't have as much as fun
with them. So three is firmly planted my second last
spot there at number seven.
Speaker 1: So okay, number six for me is Resident Evil seven,
which does fall probably further than maybe it deserves too,
just because again I haven't finished it. You know, two
of this game's credit it's a really scary game. It
was too scary for me. It was too scary. I
was too much about baby. And now that I've played
a bunch of the other games in the series, particularly eight,
like in the first person, knowing more about that, I
was probably get another shot. So I'll definitely do that
at some point, and I'm sure it will climb up
my list here. But from what I have played, like
you know, it is, it is great. It's so good
at what it's doing that it like scared me off
in a way, which is you know, a testament to
how how good it is. So yeah, it does fall
a bit a bit short, but for me it's it's
still it's still a solid game. Like everything here up
are games that I quite enjoy. So just two seven
and number six, Okay.
Speaker 2: Number six, I got the original Resident Evil again. Yeah,
I I feel like this is it's almost like my
Westerer pick. But it's a game that I again a
couple of years ago, A few years ago, I did
try because I had owned that remake for the remastered
for a while, and they did make it look nice
and they put a lot of stuff in there. I
still love them to give it a full remake. It
is funny all these other games being remade, but the
first one's still just sitting there. But this is the
blueprint for it, all the zombie like the zombies, the
zombie dogs, these gross enemy types. I just remember playing
that first game and it feeling like a real experience,
And obviously it felt like that for many people because
here we are about to have nine and a bunch
of other games released, right, But I just remember that
was a game at being at a young age, playing
and talking friends about that you talk about certain moments
or and I remember it also being I feel like
one of the first games, and it's probably because the
camera angle, but I remember it being one of the
very first games I found very challenging as a kid. Right,
even Mario's challenging, but like it feels like this got
to a level of like that anger challenge. We're like,
oh my god, I just can't get past this thing, right,
Like I told the stories about multiple times playing with
my friend Mike across the road and they are across
the street and you know his dad would have to
help us out with stuff. Like I think that's the
thing where in fact I got my first taste of
man games canna be really difficult, but that led you
always want to come back because like oh I gotta
do this, and multiple saves of Okay, I did this this,
this is this last time what I got to do differently,
So Mansion Offusaly is a very iconic location as well.
Didn't have any of my levels because I can't really
think about the level design there, but as far as
a lotion, that definitely would be in my top fix. Yeah.
First Resident Evil for a lot of legacy and a
lot of just like things burned into the brain for
the youth of Travis Sneil.
Speaker 1: So nice Number five for me is Resident Evil three. Yeah.
I think I'm curious, you know, seeing see people talking
about how there's like maybe some cut areas from the remake,
and I've only played the remake. Of course, i'd be
curious to see what those were. Because the game was
quite short, a little bit short than I was hoping for.
I didn't really have as much replay value as I
as I wanted it to. And I think maybe the
thing that disappointed me the most is that, you know,
Jill Valentine's like possibly the most iconic Resident Evil character,
but I didn't really get that after playing three. I
don't really see the hype and you know, she's in yeah,
and which three is just like but like again, the one,
the person I'm playing, the voice acting, it's not good.
So I'm not like a huge Jill fan necessarily, so
I'm curious to see what it is about her that
people love so much. And maybe I just got to
spend that time with one play with the sound off
or something like that. But I know, I mean, good game.
You know, it has a lot it's it's a really
well made game. It's just a bit too short and
not quite as memorable in other ways, but you know,
well designed, good mechanics, decent puzzles and all that. Some
fun areas. Again, I really like just being in the
streets of Racoon City, which you do quite a bit of. Yeah,
I think I, as I mentioned before, like I would
have loved if they had in this probably wouldn't make
as much sense in terms of them making as much money,
because these companies gotta make a lot of money. But
I think I would have been really cool if they
did like a two to three hybrid game that blended
the two in some way and like had Jill as
like a separate route you could do and like intertwine
those stories more and those have those characters wump into
each other couple more times. I think could have been
really fun, almost in like a Resident Evil sixty kind
of way, just blending multiple what feels like multiple games
into one. I understand why they didn't do that in
this case, but yeah, still still a solid game. And
there you go. It's in my top five. That's impressive.
Speaker 2: There you go. My number five is Rerisen Evil Village.
Enjoyed it, but as I talked about a couple of
weeks ago, was a bit more down with it. Again,
I think for a few reasons. I do love the location.
I love games in snow, but as I told you,
I got lot lost many times I didn't love the
exact lack of HUD. Maybe I could have used in
that moment. And I feel like there's certain even some
map design. I was a little annoyed by showing open passages,
but it's it never opens because it's like a rock
that's there. So I was like, Okay, well, don't put
this on the map to confuse me. And also case
of maybe six, well six aust is there because I
have at the bought my list. But Village is another
one that's close for me for getting maybe two grandiose.
I've said this before that maybe this one's definitely lower
for like a story point of view, where I just
feel this game would have felt better for me if
it was just a game called Village Residual. It feels
were getting really big with the lichens and these monsters
that go back thousands of years. You know. I like
it when most of these things stem from oh, well
you know, the the G virus or the T virus
and oh this was on a boat and it ended
up here. Oh this ends up on this village and
that's why it's like this, this is were It's a
very midi evil game, and so yeah, no I enjoyed
it some fun locations, but I think this one's more
just for the vibe of it, And it was because
seven was such a high for me. I just didn't
get that same high frame. But as you said, same thing,
it's for the top five for me, so so it's
still like a great game. All these games now would
be like an eight out of ten ish around there
as far as right now we're talking about at least, so.
Speaker 1: For sure number four. For me, this might seem a
little bit lower. But I'm put it resident evil to here.
And I think part of this is because.
Speaker 2: I saw that that backlog score when I was looking
at your your list, Oh.
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 2: What is my back I think you had like a
three point five out of five, and for me that
was like a shot to the heart.
Speaker 1: I think, honestly, if I had done one play through
the game, I think it would be potentially higher my
ranking and maybe have a higher backlog to score. But
I was so disappointed when the second route is the
exact same game with like two locks changed, and I
was like, man, like, why why do you have me
pick two separate characters? Like this doesn't make any sense
with the story I've talked, I've complained about this before,
so I don't want to retread the Ground Team much there, honestly,
that does. That is a big detractor for me because
I think if it had been even just a little
bit more unique features to it in each play through
other than like in Leon's there's like a bit of
an eight section, then I think it would be much
higher because I think it would be a more complete
game with like actual value to replay it. But to
get past that stuff. I mean, I do really love
this game. I think it's really great. I like both
the characters, so I do want to play it again.
Like that's why I want to play again, because I
do like both of them and I want to see
both their stories. It just ended up being that they
both had pretty much the same story. Yeah, but some
really great sequences obviously. The police stations are great, and
the rest of the stuff, you know, there's a sewer,
there's underground science lab. It's pretty generic Resident Evil stuff
at that point, but it is well designed, like in
particular the science Lab. I quite like that sequence, like
it is. It is fun. It's a good finale to
the game. The sections out in the streets like the
world building of it. It is a really great game,
and yeah, I probably should bump that up on backlog.
I was probably just salty when I put that score
in there, so then probably just done the second play
through and like what to waste my time? Gotta play
is Leonic and nothing nothing changes. But yeah, still still
a really great game. Everything everything in this top four
games that I quite enjoy a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and you say, like, oh, it has like
the classic tropes like this this was starting those classic tropes,
you know, like the science Lab and the sewer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair, that's a fair criticism.
Speaker 2: It's just weird when you play it in the like
two being all these ones later on, right, But uh, okay,
so number four, we got this one. I'll purely admit
we'll have to revisits another time, but uh, just nostalgia
and good playthroughs. I got Code Veronica up here. I
am one of those kind of you know, just kind
of nerds when people are like this is the true
sequel to the two. It's like it it felt like
that back in the day. The games that I played
the most, War Too and Code Veronica. I remember putting
tons of hours. I just watching some gameplay again today,
just certain sound effects. I was like, oh, that just
like like activated things in my brain where it's like right,
and uh so, yeah, there's not much to talk about
because I haven't played it in years. This is purely
just good times, and I've thought about booting it up,
but because again that makes happening, I think what I
want to do is maybe boot it up a little close.
But I'm with you where I enjoy these games a
lot as a child, but I hate the fixed camera angles,
like and we in Resident Will sixth Day when I
was playing it, and the Submarine has those a bit
with when Aida is like running away from the water.
It's brutal, you know, like this, clearly I'm in that era.
I love these games for the monsters and some of
the characters, but the stories and how scared And don't
get me wrong, I think some of those those fixed
camera angles with the zombies, those do work well because
it adds like a feeling of you can't move and
you're so limited, right, So I think that does add
to a little bit, but that doesn't always make it
the most fun. And luckily the remakes have done that
now without being fixed camera angles. So the games have
caught up where Okay, we don't have to make it
feel like your box and to be scared, we'll do
all these things or add more zombies or add different
doors from the come in. But yeah, code Veronica. Yeah,
I think if we're talking about characters that Claire would
probably be probably up there, should be in the top
three round there. I like that she's kind of more
They're like, she's obviously the exact opposite of a brother
who's like the hard nose one. She's not like a
jokey character, but she's the more probably one of the
most lighthearted characters in the Resident Evil franchise. Yeah, that's
why again, which might on predictions. I'd be various very
curious to see her, Like I'm trying to think the
last game kind of canonically we've seen her because she
wasn't in six, I don't think because you and I
never played Chris's story. So it's like then that will
will be five then, right, and that's like, is she
in five? I think I think it's her and her
brother that are the two leads.
Speaker 1: No, it's it's it's Chris and Shiva.
Speaker 2: Is her name Shiva? Okay, I thought she who.
Speaker 1: I don't think in any other Resident Eval.
Speaker 2: Game really well, you never know because what is it
Claire or what's her name, Grace Ashcroft? Her No in
this game coming up, her mom was only on one
game and then we never saw her.
Speaker 1: Again, which is like a weird spin off or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're like, oh, this is her daughter, So yeah,
that's crazy. But yeah, no, just good memories. And again
talk about when I looked up when he told me,
uh to look up the cover for Resident Evil zero,
that cover many times was sitting on my TV stand.
I just burned in my mind. So yeah, Cod Veronica.
I'm definitely saying there is some nostalage there, but uh yeah,
I'm trying to find her last appear Oh no, the
only last pearance I can.
Speaker 1: Find it is Code Veronica or like you know, in
like a spinoff or like one of the multiplayer things.
I guess. But if we're counting mainlines, and I don't
know if you count Cold Veronica as a main line, yeah.
Speaker 2: I guess technically in the Medieval or Medieval the Resident
Evil wiki, they do count Resident Evil Deaf Island, which
is one of the movies. So I guess that's where
Claire's story is being updated.
Speaker 1: Now, are the movies and games can Yeah?
Speaker 2: They are, Yeah, because when we did this last one,
it was seven years after Resident Evil four and Claire
and the kind of catch up about where they've been
and stuff. So yeah, so I wonder with, uh, with ten,
if that's a character, Well, I guess they're doing with Veronica.
Well they kind of did that though, right with like Leon,
they did the remakes and then it was back. I
wonder if they're doing the same thing, Like I'm trying
to say, like, I wonder if we're going it code
Veronica and then what ten would be her return to
series as like a character again, right, because I feel
like that's kind of the the way they're they're going here,
And I just th we haven't visited such a popular
character in quite a while. That and her brother's always
popping up and I feel like people don't like her
brother as much. So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're doing the remakes to like
reintroduce it to characters.
Speaker 2: No, but is it not a way? What about Jill?
Speaker 1: What about Jill? And three? What were you doing about that?
Speaker 2: Well, I as much as let's circle back in predictions,
Let's circle back. Let's circle back. So speaking of.
Speaker 1: Three, uh, let's get to our number threes here. Mine
is Resident Evil five, which was pretty much the hardest
one for me to rank in the sense that all
these other games in the series I've played. When Resident
Evil Village came out, I played that, and then I
went back and played all these games. Resnuble five, though,
is the one game I played back in the day,
and that was probably fifteen years ago, which is half
my lifetime ago at this point, so it was a
long time ago that I played this game, so it
has it exists in a different part of my brain
than the rest of the Residueople games. But it was
a fun as hell co op shooter, which is what
I loved in the three six era, playing it with
my friends, playing with my cousin, playing it over and
over again, getting I remember getting a thousand achievements, like
all the game or a thousand gamer score all the
achievements in the Xbox version at my cousin's place, and
then like renting the game again and doing it like
at home with another friend. I just played this game
over and over again again all the unlocks, uh, playing
on like the hardest difficulties and stuff like that, a
mastery that I've not done with the other games in
the series, where I've just like done one play through.
With two, I did a second play through because I
wanted to see what that was like. But like for
the most part, I just like, I do want to
play through and then I'm out, and then maybe I'll
revisit them in a few years or something. But yeah,
Resnumbull five is one of those games. Just crushed it.
Every last pixel that game I've seen, and it has
been a long time. So that's why like best level,
best bosses, and none of that stuff showed up in
there because it's just been way too long. I can't remember,
Like I can remember like certain imageries, but I can't
remember like a whole zone or anything like that, or
even the characters really. But yeah, a game that I
loved very very much, and you know, it is one
of those ones. It's like the Star Wars Pricklels. I
don't want to revisit it. I just want to leave
it there in my little nostalgia palace where I love it,
and it's my top It's in my top three Resnoneaval games.
I don't I don't know if I would have that
same fervor for it if I played it again today,
just because I'm not as into those kind of games
and it's a different era and all that. So yeah,
but a big, big soft spot in my heart for
Resonuebl five.
Speaker 2: I was just about to pitch's like, oh, during the
twenty four hour stream wee hours, we should bust open
some piece.
Speaker 1: That would be fun. I'd be down. Okay, yeah, that's
the one exception just for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be fun. I think they'd be fun in
the moment the stream and whatnot, So mail visit that
and uh and I think that you would keep you
up to I don't feel like that's like a.
Speaker 1: Yes, that one you're fighting like you were talking about
that moment in resnonue Bel four when you're fighting off
waves of I can immediately picture multiple moments like that
in five, Like it is an onslaught horde mode kind
of game.
Speaker 2: Perfect. So yeah, maybe to b D. But number three
a game that if I didn't play it, we're probably
not here tell of this podcast And getting back into
Resident Evil. Resident Evil seven was a game that, again
we talked about many times, had that pet feel love
the trips, but still put off for a little bit
because between the movies and the games that was kind
of out. Had a great experience here, such a gnarally game,
such a gross game, a game that's gonna be burned
in my head for a long time, great vibes, very
weird near the end, and a bold trajectory for them
to go as far as other than a few connections.
Felt like it could be someone in the world, but
not not exactly all you're following, Like we just said,
Claire Leon Chris, It's okay, here's Ethan Winters. He's trying
to find his wife. Go and yeah, Resident Evil seven,
that's the game that I don't have time, but I
haven't it you like, I would like to give that
another go through and play because it's a it's a
really good time so and same thing. I would love
them to adapt that to a movie one day. But yeah,
res seven at number three? Nice?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. The reasoning for your love for
seven is very similar to me with my number two
of Resident Evil Village, because yeah, for me, this was like,
you know, I just the marketing cycle around the game
was really great. It was very different. It was the
first person, it was the character focus of it, like
the different locations, and I was like, man, I really
want to get back in this series. I've only played
five fifteen years ago. I want to get back to
the series, see what's going on here and loved it.
And now I've gone back and played all these other ones.
And again that's why I'm here today doing this ranking
with you because of Village kind of kicking off that
love for the series and seeing both the you know,
tight horror elements of it and then also like the
bombastic action, cheesy moments of it, and that game. I
feel like that game really rides those two waves at
the same time, which I find really impressive about it
big game. I love the scale of it, of the
interconnectedness of it. I every zone is good, like even
the annoying poison Swamp, which is annoying in every game,
like good annoying. I feel like in Resident Evil Village,
I like the factory.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 1: To me, that's like a switch up a little bit
from like the science lab that I'm used to at
like the ends of these games. Yeah, the characters and
the like the roster of Villains feels more iconic to
me than a lot of the other games in that sense.
Really great voice acting and yeah, just overall just a
really really fun time, really great game. Uh still don't
play the DLC, which I probably should still knock off
the list at some point here, but yeah, I guess yeah,
I want you to really really making me want to
invest in see what's going on with the Resident Evil series,
and yeah, now I'm now I'm a big fan of it.
So yeah, love this game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you are interested. I think for most consoles
the games are back on sale right now or some
of them, but they didn't have that or the aid
of DLC on sale, which you're already like not super expensive,
but sale is waiting for. I think they're both like
twenty ish and I'm waiting for that like seven ten dollars.
They will drop at some point because I want to
get the especially who the DLC is about. I'm very
curious about where that could go. So yeah, it's on
my bucket lists as well too. This was the hard
I always knew and number three Red seven was there,
and for me, the back and forth between one and
two I struggle with till today. I think this is
a situation where if we were making a best of lists,
the ranking would be different and this might be in
a different spot. But number two, I got Resident Evil
for right here. Yeah, it's it's to me. It's a
game that, honestly, like I said that, now going back
to it and then doing the I think the Remate
specifically could be a game if we ever readid our
top ten video games might be in there, even even
over to but like, this game has everything you would
want in a game. Like I said, I was happy
to revisit me in the remake because I remember as
a young lad feeling, ah, this is a kind of
getting away from where I want. But it actually struck
struck a perfect bounce and I had to stop myself.
But this is I haven't you a wow? Had a
game that I wanted to replay right away with my
life usually okay, I got this game done, going on
the next one. This was when I it was hard
to stop, like when you when it's going the mission,
you're walking the camp, it was hard to stop, save
and come back to I'm gonna at some point maybe
later this year, I'd love to play it again, especially
a new game plus I got all my weapons, I'm
all ready to go. But Residual four is it's it's
something special specifically to the remake because obviously the the
game I have just lots of nostalogy about it. I
was again a young lad when that came out as
the last one I actually purchased. But uh, yeah, it's
it's a special game I love. I think it's a
game that I don't have any real nippicks about. I
think the level design is great. I think it's a
good variety of villains and bad guys. I talked about
your fighting this little you know guy in the castle
becomes a big monster, or you're fighting your former war buddy.
You got the boat mission. You know, like there's so
many things there. Let me see if there's anything I
had on here. No things I kind of talked about before,
But no, it uh it's a just perfect adventure game
as well too. Even the first I guess it's kind
of mission, but that when you go into the village
the first time and you're not even supposed to kill everybody,
you're supposed to run. That's one of the most like
enthralled experience I've ever had in games where if you're sneaking,
they see and you're just running around place to play showing. Yeah,
it's just it's one of the most cinematic games of
all time. So yeah, number four two was not an
easy decision to put there.
Speaker 1: So hm, I mean that leaves it at my number one.
Of course, Resident Evil four, which you know is in
some way like kind of a big full circle moment
because growing up obviously not really playing a lot of
Resident Evil, but it is one of those series that is,
you know, beloved, and particularly it's like, yeah, Resident Evil
four the best Resident Evil. Always hearing that over the years,
and that's happened many times in my life where like
there's again that's been built up my whole life, and
then I finally play it and it lets me down,
you know, like look Shout of the Clossus or like
having a Golden Sun, or like even earth Bound. I
was like, man, I've been looking forward to playing these
games for like twenty years and I finally did, and
it's like, oh, I don't really like these games. That's
too bad. So to like finally get to Risney belfour
And admittedly it is a remake, so it's a new
and updated version of it that is like modernized and
all that kind of stuff. So take that with a
grain of salt. It's not not quite as fresh as
me going back to an old game old moment, but
yeah it it just fires on all cylinders and it
delivered in every single way, and uh yeah, I couldn't
be more thrilled that. Like I was, like, ah, I
love this game as much as everyone else does too,
and I don't have the same nostalgia for it, but
it feels good to be kind of there with everyone else.
I mean, I love every area in this game. Like
there is not a double moment starting out, which is
like the earlier village sequences, Like I love like even
just that initial fight in the town and you just
pretty much go and go and go until the bell
rings and then like they finally leave alone, Like all
that sequence is really good. The castle, which is huge
and sprawling and fantastic. You know, people, there's a lot
of Ashley haters out there. I like Ashley, you know what.
I want to protect her, I want to keep her safe,
I want I want her with me, And yeah it
can be annoying escort mission type behavior at times, but
you know what, I I like her. I want her
on my team. I want to I want to fight
for her. Who's that other guy you mentioned him earlier?
Speaker 2: Was his name again, Jack Crazer?
Speaker 1: No? No, no, like the the buddy that you have in
this that you like do the mine cart section.
Speaker 2: With Oh I read his name? I couldn't remember him. Yeah,
but he perishes kind of in the.
Speaker 1: I like him. He's fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So many iconic villains I mentioned the regenerator you have,
like the giant like ogre fight. You have other like
the guy with the wolverine clause at one point too
uh into Yeah, that that creepy like dweeby guy who
like grows into a huge monster. Like all sorts of
crazy stuff going on here. It's a great action game,
but it also has its great like stealth, scary moments
like weapon variety like I just found, like the mechanics
of the game great. I love the merchant in this game.
Speaker 2: What do you buy? And you?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Loveat that.
Speaker 1: He would make it in my top five characters in
the series, I think, And like his little theme, the
the save room music that plays when you finally get
to him, always like a nice comforting thing. Yeah, I
don't know. It's it's a cheesy action flick. Also a
great horror game, just fun like Leon at his best,
so fun and campy and just suplex and grandmas and
all sorts of fun stuff. You know. It's it's it's amazing.
It's a great game from start to finish. Yeah, so love,
love me some Resident evilfore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the save room. That's been what I've been listening
to a lot lately for bedtime is the they have
all like the save rooms. This was a Scholl show,
the Cry Cafe, and it relaxed Resident Evil music with
rain and storm Ambient's it's a real it's a real
good one. But it's the save room stuff. But yeah, no,
you can't be wrong with that pick. Awestly, my pick's
number two talked about many times, so I have much
more say because it's just what I love in the
Resident Evil world. I love that precinct it's introduced into Leon.
It's also like I do love kind of I've always
been a guy that says that Fellowship's the best one, right, Like,
even though it's not the Resident Evils the first one,
this feels like the real rig into the world. Right
as you're seeing Raccoon city and you just feel like
on a grander scale when the first one you're in
the mansions is contained thing too, it's like, okay, this
is like the adventure that kind of kicks it all off.
And for me, like when you talk about certain people
like Jill and whatnot, for me, Leon is like the
protagonists when I think about people that when I want
to follow in Resident Evil and yeah, that police station,
mister X. You know, the the puzzles, the character moments,
then the kind of the claust or phobia you can
have in some of those locations. Yeah, it's just uh,
I love games. As I've said before, you got one bullet,
make account, you know, and it might be an hour
or two you're getting another one or whatever. And again
there's random stuff in there too, like why are you
developing photos in the middle of this game? I don't know,
but I like finding those photos that, oh, you know,
what can I do? And I love clearing an area.
So yeah, Resident Evil two is up there for again. Though,
if I was making a best of lists for be
at the one, because I do think it is the
best one. Two is just my favorite. It's what I
have with And then so we play in the remake again,
it was just that but now like a new code
of paint. So it was perfect. So yeah, it's gonna
become a game that I think. Now I've got the
remake and I've replayed it, I could see me every
once in a while just doing a nice play through
that because it's not that long, and uh yeah, I
just uh, it was great having back in my life.
Speaker 1: So amazing, great list. Both had a couple of surprises
in there, but I think that's just the series. You know,
it's a series of many flavors, so that's that's a
good thing about it. Let's take our last atberg of
the show and we'll do some predictions for Requiem.
Speaker 2: We'll be right.
Speaker 1: Back, all right, we are back, of course, Requiem comes
out in just three short days. Wait, what is it? Monday, Tuesday, Thursday? Yeah,
three days right on the prespice here, Yeah, I think
we just have a couple of quick questions here. I've
I've watched I think every trailer. I think I've maybe
missed one or two trailers, and I've not combed every frame,
and I've not been deep on Reddit, like you know,
what are crazy theories and stuff. I'm trying to you know,
stay a little bit blind, but also you know, seeing
the trailers hop up the game wards or state of play.
It's hard to miss those, right, So kind of a
mix of seeing things. My first question for you, Travis,
how much time do we spend at the police station?
Speaker 2: Ooh, that's a good question. And I wonder is it
like is that quickli hit or is it like a level?
Speaker 1: Ah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough. I've been thinking about the whole time
of is it like even do you start with leon
there or do you build up to it? Right? I
don't know, build up to it. I think you build
up to it too. I think if I would say
at least even a mini level like something that's a
I don't think it should just be a location you
kind of walk at some memoraries, collect a couple stalks
and move on. There should be a couple of zombies there. Again,
I don't know what the status of Raccoon City and
the ball and what it's been. Most images they show
that town looks pretty defunct, like it doesn't look like
much is going on. I'm not expecting people just even
like it's not overrun by zombies or anything. Right, So Yeah,
you would.
Speaker 1: Have to wonder like what the zombies would even be
feeding on at that point, Yeah, were to even exist there.
Speaker 2: So that's where i'd like they is he You explore it,
you get some memories, you collect some stuff, and maybe
there's like a bigger boss, like a smaller mini boss
battle there, like when you mentioned the troll in four
something like that, where Okay, let's do a memorable thing
here and maybe it comes out of the ground. Maybe
you fully level the police station. That's kind of like
a fun way to like, Kay, this thing's done in
the middle's boss battle and you're kind of running through
these locations that you were in before and they're getting destroyed.
So that would be my pitch is like a mini
boss battle there, that's what I think should happen.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I'm I'm maybe hoping for like we spend
an hour there or something I like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you go through it.
Speaker 1: There's a few rooms, but you can see like certain
areas that are memorable have been like caved in, and
like you're just completely like maybe the whole East wing
is just crashed in. That's fine. I don't need to
revisit every room and I don't really want to, right,
So I've done that. I complained to that. I already
had to do that twice when I replayed Residuevil too. Yeah,
but it is obviously a very iconic location, and so
I'm very curious to see, like what the heck are
we even doing there? Like what what is the right?
Is it just a nostalgia hit, or is there something
that is there that we need, like an old file
or something, or we're just using it as like a
gateway to get like through the underground section.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure even Raccoon City in general, why we're there, right, Like,
that's that's what's that's what's fun. And I do think
that because we've not been there, even in that movie
we watch in the games, they talk about Racooncity a lot,
but they've not really gone back there. So that's why
I feel like, if they're going back there, I think
they know we got to make this a juicy reason.
We can't just go back there for the nostalgia, you know,
And that's that's where we'll say if it is just
a nostalgia hit, that's where I do think it would
open up the game maybe like you would start there,
like Okay, just a quick you're walking through like get this,
you know, gone train up or something, I don't know what,
or we're gonna pick you up and that starts the mission.
But I hope that's not it because I feel like
with that, and like I said, it's been fourteen years
since Leon's been in a new game, there's some kind
of expectation when it comes to those two things, Leon
and the police station.
Speaker 1: So yeah, very much. So uh returning characters? Who else
do you think is gonna make some surprise appearances? If
any here? Because obviously we got the confirmation of Leon
a few months ago, but anyone else popping in?
Speaker 2: Well, let's circle back. Jill Valentime. You were talking about it, right,
I think I'm pitching a dangerous thing because I don't
want to pitch this exactly. But I said to you,
I can't remember anything the last one about Resident Evil.
I feel like once you get to ten, you kind
of gotta do something special, right, like you gotta. I
feel like this is what's so scary. I feel like
it should be the Avengers of the Resident Evil. But
I don't want to be Resident Evil six, Like that's what.
Speaker 1: I just what the Avengers of Resident, Yes.
Speaker 2: Right, so, like I what I would love is a way,
and I don't know. That's one of my questions. I
don't know if Leon's gonna make it out of this,
but I would love it if you could get Jill
and Claire back for ten, because you're like, oh what
about Jill? Maybe those are two cares same thing. I
don't know last time Jill's been in a proper like
canonically game. It's not a remake, right, like is it
just a spin off? Or is it? Is it three? Maybe?
Like when's it? Yeah? So I just feel like with
the return to Leon, I feel like they do maybe
you want to return some of these characters. So when
you said, oh, well what about Jill, I think there
could be something to they they remade three, the remaking
Code Veronica. I don't think it's the prep you, but
I think it's also just like if they sell, well,
it's like, well, clearly, not only do people care about
these games, they might care about these characters. So, and
Chris is always bopping around too, right, So he's been
in seven, he's been in eight, but it was not
he was not like a main character. I don't know
if it's a trio or a quad. I could see
some sort of Leon, Claire, Chris Jill game. Now that's
a lot, and maybe it's half of that, maybe it's
just Jill and Claire. But I feel like for ten,
maybe you could do something like that. And again I'm
pitching Resident Evil six, so I don't like that. So
you know what, kick Chris out of there. Chris is gone,
get Chris. Just keep it the Leon, Leon.
Speaker 1: Leon and Jill on the cover of the game. That's
that's a big moment.
Speaker 2: Well, and again I've pointed this out, apparently happens in
the movies. They have not ever met in the games.
All these other characters have been at different points. Jill
and Leon. Yeah, yeah, they've not throwing Black Widow thorn
in Black Widow, not a single word in the entire
in finishes are like those, I would argue are your
protagonists A and B the fact they've never met. So
that's what I'm getting is I could just that pitch
you just gave there that cover those two. I could
see something like that. And I know because people I
feel like, keep speculating if Claire or Jill are in
this game. I don't know. If if they are, I
feel like they don't want to get it too big.
That's why I feel like they'd kind of do like
they've been doing lately, like these end credits where you remember
an eight where we'll just say a certain character in
case some of them played, a certain character gets brought
in like recruited to be Oh, you're one of our
agents now or anything like that. Like that's where I
could see that where Leon's done all this and then
he bumps into a Jill or Claire and like, oh,
things are worse than ever and then it's like that
sets up ten you know, and that could even bring
in like okay, minor spoilers, but if you want to
bring the Winter's family, one of those characters is an
agent now, so like you could bump them in there,
so you could you could do something really even if
they're not playable, just to have some of these characters around.
So that's my only thing against my other prediction as
far as I'll save till after. But uh, and Ada,
What do you think about Ada? Because she's popped up
every time for in six, two and four for Leon
every time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, separate the two like at this point in time,
but I yeah, I want her in there because I'm
a big fan, and I think if particular, I think
one thing, I you know, we didn't really do characters necessarily,
But one of the things that I like about Ada,
whether it is two or four, remakes different voice actors,
very different performances, and I really like both. Like I
just I just like the different flavors that you get
with like the eight to performances. But I think that
would be fun to bring in the one that did
four in particular and get her back in there. But
for some reason, I feel like this is not the
game where they were. They're together again.
Speaker 2: I I agree, And I feel like that's why with
my pitch it's like end credits stuff or mentions, because
I think they still are very much like just spoon
feeding you a little bit, Like Chris is in seven
for a little bit and then he's a mission at eight. Right,
Leon being in this weetata those a few times is
a big like, oh that's a big tie to the past.
Grace completely new, Okay, her mother's dead, she's investigating it.
But that's easy, right, That's just like legacy sequel stuff.
Leon being is like, Okay, you're tying it to a
lot of that old connuity. So I think they want
to try and find a way to introduce some of
those characters back because there is nostalgia, but you don't
want to go crazy. And I feel like that's where
at first I was leaning towards Leon dying. I think
something like A ten, that's where you could have like
a Leon aight to reunion. I feel like that would
be like app for ten, like the tenth Resident Evil
main line game. You can get those characters back and
maybe they actually get like a happy ending finally. Maybe
it's not like a wildie like every time they save
each other, they kiss, they met, they love each other,
and then A is off doing something like maybe finally
this time she's done moving around. And my only fear
is I really don't want is because they go I'm
doing the whole like he's looking very depressed. I really
don't want to learn like aid to died off screen
or something shit like that. Like yeah, and movies and
games do that a lot, and I I'm worried. I
don't think they.
Speaker 1: She's like dead as heck, but then she's.
Speaker 2: Like good, yeah, but she's back at six, you know.
But I mean, I meaning like a full on confirmation,
like no twist, just like yeah, and then I lost eight,
Like I don't want that, like I but they do
that a lot of times, Like I get it with
the actors. The age Ada is a video game.
Speaker 1: Like who has died in wasid Evil?
Speaker 2: Though? Yeah, like the villain's honestly, but like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, one's mean in terms of like any has
any playable character ever died?
Speaker 2: Grace's mom, Grace Ashcroft, she died well assuming because in
the very first well yeah, yeah, she was the leader,
like you said that, like co op whatever game, I
can't remember what it's called, but yeah, she was playable.
And they just say like, oh, your mom died eight
years ago. Now again you're going to investigate that could
not be the case. Maybe she's not actually dead. Yeah
yeah but in the plaza. But you're right, I think
most of these play the main characters have a great
survival rate. But that's where I could see ten. Maybe
it's like, yeah, we're gonna knock some of these people off,
you know, or even Leon, he could die here.
Speaker 1: I don't want it, but yeah I was, I was
thinking about that. I feel like, yeah, I wonder how
much they care about like that actual ten because it
is really just a name of this point, because they're
like even if because Code Veronica is like kind of
a mainline, and people are like, no, this kind of
is resonable three. It's like it's kind of like the
Kill Bill, Like Okay, we've already got ten Tarantino movies,
you know, like he's gone his ten.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's still it's still a thing though, right,
And it's almost it reminds me with the Saw franchise.
Remember they drop that they.
Speaker 1: Like, Requiem doesn't have doesn't even have nine in the title.
Speaker 2: Well, the Q kind of turns into a nine in
some of the market Yeah, some of the marketing said,
like the Q is a nine. It's like okay, But
to me, it's like the Saw ten thing where they
dropped that for a while, like Spiral's not part of
the Saw movies, but they counted it and when they
got to Saw ten though, it's like Saw X, Like
to me, I don't think there's a way you and
I are playing Residual ten without like that X being
somewhere like that. I just because it's a tenth game,
that's a lot of like marketing push you can do right,
like like it's like a final thing, like all the
final movies. So I could be wrong, but I will
at least say if it's a subtitle, the WARLD will
have an X in it. I promise you it'll have
an X. Okay, yeah, that's my.
Speaker 1: I could see that for sure, and they'll do something
clever like they do with the village. I'm sure there's
something they can do there. I feel like a Claire
or Jill pop in one of the two. That's what
I'll make a prediction that one of them pops in.
But briefly, like, I don't think you're gonna playable section
even with one of these characters. I think they just
save the day or have some story thing. It might
not even be like in an intense mission, although yeah,
actually I think it probably will be in some sort
of thing where they have a sniper rifle and save
the day in a very eight of style. But I think, yeah,
one of them might be. I don't know the context,
you know. Again, I've played all these games, or most
of these games. I don't know what the heck's going
on in the story. I don't really know.
Speaker 2: Well, luckily for the most part. It's never like a
one big story, right, they just become these agents who
keep going to other places where the virus is spread. Right,
it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I feel like I could see.
Speaker 2: One of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about what about Ashley? What about the grand
return of Ashley?
Speaker 2: I would love the grand return ash I really hope
that happens. I would love it, even if it's just
like she's like.
Speaker 1: The police chief's daughter, Like maybe it's the same police
that we're talking about in like in this game.
Speaker 2: Isn't Ashley the present's daughter of the president.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the president died in six but she didn't die,
so but I still would love a check in on her, like,
even if it's something like the game starts and Leon's
like and it cuts in like having lunch or dinner
with her and he gets that call like it like
I would I yeah, or even just an email something
like that, you know, but that'd.
Speaker 1: Be I feel like an email. I think you might
get Aida mentioned in like a note or an email
or something.
Speaker 2: Okay, man, I think that Ada was emailing, Like Ada's
not email on him, you know. She she loves to
like just pop up and leave and ste like a
cryptic Yeah, no, I could say. I could see an
up there in Ashley. I guess he say to be missing,
and I have Jill or Claire small appearance. I just
can't decide which one because Jill hasn't been for a while,
and maybe you could do someone with Jill and ten
because even if that's all that is, like, hey, it's
a tenth game, we want to go back to the
original protagonists to tie it together. Maybe that's just the
only thing. Or Claire is like a perfect way to
like somewhat promote Code Ronco, right, like, hey, did you
like this moment in resunue record while next to your
shit game coming up? Right?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what the context would be
of her being in Racon City and being at the
police station, but obviously if that was the game, the
place together, yeah, powing around.
Speaker 2: It's their origin, right of the meeting and everything. So
I think I leaned towards Claire, even though I'd like
to see Jill back.
Speaker 1: Has been a while, But okay, I'll go team Jill then,
and we can kind of be opposed. I'm not going
to pizza about this by any means. We can be
on the opposing sides of it here. What were your
other prediction things here?
Speaker 2: I think we've covered most of the only thing was
just the official answer on Leon. As you making out of.
Speaker 1: This or not survive?
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I think so too. I think if in
the marketing, because people have caught on this whole like,
oh he looks sick or something like that, I think
if that was an in game development, then I'd be worried.
But I think as they kind of have like showing
off a little bit of multiple trailers, that he got
something going on. I think it's going I think there's
even a chance that he could become a monster you fight,
but I think he will get cured and then that's
the difference where and then maybe maybe that's where a
Claire comes in or something like that. That could be a
good full supermoment. Or maybe that's because as she's still
like a copt, I mean that's her like full on
becoming a badass, right or so ashy Grace, that's her
character moment. I'm excited to see just even how those
characters kind of intertwine, you know, like what is like
why are there stories told the same time I'm sure
there's a reason for it, right, So, uh and same
thing with her I had it is she make it
out of it face, She's gonna make it a of this,
right yeah, I think so? Yeah, great new care.
Speaker 1: The next face the series.
Speaker 2: Potentially she could. And that's where I was gonna ask,
because I already asked it a little bit, is uh,
do we get any winters in here? Obviously they were
big and seven.
Speaker 1: And eight hard because I don't know what happened in
the DLC, which is his.
Speaker 2: Daughter, right, Yeah, So I don't know either, but I
know she knows. She's like working for the agency kind of.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I do think there's gonna be some connection between
this game and Village just because they are well most
recent in the series together. And I yeah, I feel
like they did that DLCY for a reason. So I'll
say that she is in this game as well.
Speaker 2: Okay, And because I had my little crackpot theory, do
you think, uh, what's the what's the ending Randon Krantz's game?
Is it like a full on set up to ten?
Is it something just like a nothing.
Speaker 1: Like what is like Village tease?
Speaker 2: That's just that's the daughter that she's like it a
time jumps to her being grown up, and then she's
an agent now and she has some of the abilities.
I don't think seven did much there, but obviously with
six it was just and sometimes it's just like six
they go to the grave of Helena's sister, right, Sometimes
it's just a story beat, and then sometimes it is like, oh, well,
something else is out there. I I I'm just going
with someone else is out there because I feel like
they're on a roll and they want to keep people
coming back. So whatever it is, it's like a little
tease to something in the future. Don't know what it is,
but I'm gonna say ten.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I'll say that it's some I'm gonna
say maybe it's the return of an iconic villain. Maybe
it's a hint at a villain return rather than like
a protagonist return.
Speaker 2: Wescer could be right up there. I don't know what.
Speaker 1: I don't know where Western's at currently, but I could Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, that's a good the villain, especially to in my
crackpot theory. If they did want to make ten special,
imagine bringing back a couple of characters and then a
classic villain. Yeah, that could be that's a good call.
I like that. Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, any other things you want to bring up, particularly, we.
Speaker 2: Kind of talked around them, so I think we got them,
and I'm I'm excited. I'm like you where I've seen
the two trailers, but I'm not I didn't watch like
when they did that state of play or whatever. I
only saw that Leon like when he was sick thing
at the beginning. But I've not done the Rennett thing
because I don't want and obviously now spoilers out there
no way, but even before it's I still want to
be some surprise. I think there's a certain point where
the theories come up and I like them, and there's
a point where okay, I don't want to be frozen spoilers,
and uh yeah, I'm excited, excait for this ride, exay
for the hotel recon see. Like I said, I don't
even know how these characters in your link, like, how
is Leon and I assume Grace are gonna meet at
some point right in the story how and why you know?
Speaker 1: So Yeah, I'm I'm looking forward to it. I'm gonna
predict for myself that it has the potential to become
a top three residuebal game for me.
Speaker 2: I agree for myself, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think number one, number two would be hard,
but I think number three possible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be tough for me if they can
knock Village off. So I guess I'll guarantee a top
four maybe, but okay, I'm hoping. I'm hoping.
Speaker 1: So that sounds good. Do you think this game will
have DLC as well? Like we've got this, Yeah, it
seems like they want to do well. I guess they
didn't do with all the remixes before and then they
did eight seven had one as well.
Speaker 2: Ye right. I think it was like Chris centric or
something like that. So yeah, I feel like that's their
thing of do that DLC game edition.
Speaker 1: Now that we're talking about that, I feel like maybe
Claire introduced bas game. Maybe you get like a DALC,
a Claire delC. I don't think you'd get a Jill DLC.
That seems like too too big for some reason, but
maybe a Claire DLC down the road.
Speaker 2: Do you do a Claire deal? See though, if you
got Cold Veronica maybe next year though that too same
zy for people.
Speaker 1: I think so because it's like, you know, like the
A of DLC and four is like an hour long
or something like you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, but there's no ad a game coming, right
they know? Or Code Veronica is a Claire game, so true, right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I just wonder. Okay, Okay, I feel like it's going
to be more Grace Ashcroft centered. I think that's my opinion.
Speaker 1: That's smarter than mine. I think don't know where it
is that's more realistic than or.
Speaker 2: Maybe no, it could be fun. Is if they find
out what happens to her mother because she used to
be a playable character. What if you do like a
prequel DLC where it's.
Speaker 1: They remake that old game.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no no no, just that she died
of this hotel. You play the story, but this time
it's a bad resident evil story because you know they're
gonna die. But just like the night that happened to
Grace's mom, I could see that because she's playable character before.
She used to be a reporter, don't I found out.
I looked into it. But she's shooting stuff and everything.
So that's my pitch, is a prequel delC about how
she lost her mom?
Speaker 1: Got it? Okay, I love it. Good good, great predictions
all around. We will find out in just a few
short days if anyone else is playing the game out there,
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Bye bye. Leon must have some of my con