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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in everybody. It is Friday. It's time

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for another edition of Full Court Press. The Calm before

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the Storm, Robbino, that's what the Friday Sleep is.

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Speaker 2: At this point.

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Speaker 1: They give us a couple of games, at least at

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least we've got the Mac and the Ivy knack on

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Friday in h apparently find being lost in the shuffle

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last weeks. But they're back on Friday night where they belong.

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He got, you know, you got to have these lead

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the smaller league opportunity there for you on Friday to

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play Friday Sunday and get your game scene. And so

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it's great that the Mac and the Ivy, which which

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always used to be on Friday pretty much every game,

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are back in the Friday time slot. But first, rob,

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you know, before we get in a Friday, let's talk

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about Thursday real quick. No, get on the parlay. It

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was my only loss though, and I kind of got unlucky.

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Charleston had Connor Hickman ruled out like right before the game.

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It appears he is ineligible and done for the year.

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Is that what you gathered on that one?

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Speaker 3: It's what I saw, but I didn't confirm.

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Speaker 4: But it looks that way, yet he had been a

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pretty big piece since he returned.

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Speaker 2: Too, Rob. I mean, I'll be honest, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I didn't feel like I had enough time to really

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react to that news. The number didn't move a ton,

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so I just decided to ride out my bet. There's

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no way back in Charleston without Tickman. So that was

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a little bit unlucky for me. But I did get

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a little bit lucky.

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Speaker 2: With mercy Hurst. They kind of came back.

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Speaker 1: I had them plus three, they come all the way back,

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never really led in the second half, but lose by one.

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Speaker 2: So that was a good result for me. And then

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South Alabama role.

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Speaker 1: So two in one night for me on Thursday, bounce

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back from the five percent loss on Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: How did Thursday go for you?

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Speaker 3: Thursday was a split one in one.

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Speaker 4: The good news was Belmont team total, never in doubt

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ninety one points against Northern Iowa, just a The three

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point shooting clinic that they put on from about the

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eleven minute mark of the first half until the end

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of the first half was really something. Yeah, Belmont offensively

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in Northern Iowa hung right with them. Northern Iowa played

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extremely good offense as well. Team to watch out for

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inside that Missouri Valley Arch Madness Tournament, the Unlucky Coross,

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the Florida International Delaware game, which was the craziest. If

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that had been a March Madness game opening round, first round,

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we'd have seen the.

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Speaker 3: Endings one hundred times by now. But just to let

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the folks in.

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Speaker 4: Who didn't go to Twitter or see, I think by

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You was with me on this frustration and that game,

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Delaware leads sixty two to forty six, going away victory,

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no problem.

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Speaker 3: Five minutes left that by You cannot be the thing.

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Speaker 4: They had only scored sixteen points the entire second half,

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missed every shot they took, basically, and then all of

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a sudden, here comes the rally from nowhere to the

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point where Adam they they are final three possessions, They

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hit three threes. They keep getting stops or missed ends

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of a one to one come down, bang three threes,

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the one that ties the game at sixty six, which

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was incredible. I'm like, oh my god, I can't believe

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I'm even gonna have half a chance at this. In overtime,

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about five seconds left they make the three. Delaware doesn't

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call time out, they let it play out. They take

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the ball down the court, pushed through the lane. I mean,

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the struggle to get through the lane off the dribble

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was crazy. Looked like it could have been stripped, looked

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like it could have been a file, Looked like it

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could have been.

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Speaker 3: A lot of things. It was none of those. It

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was a shot.

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Speaker 4: Put up that missed and Delaware player running from the

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far baseline comes in and tips it home with about

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So Delaware gets there. We just missed overtime. Would have

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been lucky to get it to and I can't really

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consider that as a smart play. Delaware Florida International over

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the total, but just an incredible You fight all that way,

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You fight a sixteen point deficit to get back in

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it only to have a.

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Speaker 3: Chip in with like you know, zero point one left.

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Speaker 4: But is what it is. It was a split, which

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is in bad news. We'll get on to today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a couple of folks referencing in the

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chat the package, the joint package between Rob. You know,

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Rob and I have done well this week. Another winning

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day yesterday. That is up till further notice. Double the

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CBB Firepower, and it is officially the weekend Package, Rob

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because it's Friday, which means Friday, Saturday, Sunday. If you

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get it today, you get all of my plays, all

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of Rob's plays in college hoops for the entire weekend.

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Mansy says, good morning, he says, let's start a big weekend.

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And I kind of I thought he maybe threw the

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one in there, you know, but I didn't know if

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he was going to help me segue into a big

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one in the Big Ten, Rob.

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Speaker 2: But that's where the big weekend is going to start out.

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Speaker 1: In Madison, Wisconsin at the Coal Center, Big Ten Basketball

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on a Friday night. You've got the Michigan State Spartans

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top ten team. I think they were a little bit

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fortunate to be Illinois, but they got it done last week.

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They've been off since then, so they've had time to

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prepare for this game Rob. While Wisconsin they've had a

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couple of things going on. One of those things was

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a very impressive midweek win over Illinois. So Michigan State

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Wisconsin Coal Center Tonight, tight spread feels like a toss up.

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Speaker 2: Who do you got?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Coule, let'll just get the Ats housekeeping out of

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the way here first, and Wisconsin their team total eight

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and two to the over last ten games. We've come

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to know Wisconsin is a far more offensive team than

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defensive team. This year, five of those eight overs team

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total oars have come by eleven and a half points

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or better, so some of them not even close. Wisconsin

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has been getting way older. For the Michigan state side,

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they are four and oho to the over their last

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four games, although the Illinois game which is in those

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four was only one forty two at the end of regulation,

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and the number was one forty two and after if

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you want to go by regulation, only three and when interesting,

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both of these teams, like you just mentioned, they enter

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off of wins over Illinois. The Wisconsin one, I sort of,

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you know, keep reservation or hold reservation on because we

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know Kylin Boswell's been out. But Stoyakovich didn't play in

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that game either and Illinois was still and that was

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another one of those late rulings where the player was

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out at him because that day for the parlay, I

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believe Illinois team total over was my end of the

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parlay and it got to overtime at eighty one eighty one.

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I think we're looking at eighty one and a half.

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But at nine or excuse me, at you know, ten thirty,

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ten forty five am when we were on I probably

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would not have made that play, knowing Stoyakovich was.

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Speaker 3: Out of the line of as well. It didn't matter.

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Speaker 4: Illinois scored on Wisconsin, Wisconsin scored back. But I do,

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you know, feel a little bit of reservation about Wisconsin

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having to struggle like that without two of the better

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players for Illinois even on the floor. I guess it's

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a It's an absolute, absolute positive for Illinois to know

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that they can go without two of those guards and

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still almost beat Wisconsin. Here we get a matchup where we,

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like I say, Michigan State's been off six days, the

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other side comes off the midweek game. I'll say this fundamentally.

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I had just a quick list in my notes from

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early this morning of what Wisconsin absolutely needs to do tonight.

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You know, it's interesting, Adam, Michigan State, they score a

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lot of points for a team that doesn't shoot well,

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they've rebound. How do they score their points? Well, they're

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number five in the country in fast break points. Believe

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it or not, an ISO team being the fifth highest

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scoring team off the fast breaking League, they get a

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lot of fast breaks, they get a lot of second

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chance they get to the free throw linement out there

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not necessarily good shooters. If you're Wisconsin tonight, you cannot

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be slow in transition defense against this team.

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Speaker 3: No how, no way.

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Speaker 4: Michigan State's going to defensive board and get out and

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if they see an advantage, they're going to take it.

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You can't allow second chance points. This matchup height versus

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height is pretty close.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: Somebody had said the other day that Wisconsin should play

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Austin Rapp a little bit more, and I agree with that,

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and he had a big game against Dillonoi the of

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Speaker 3: But they have to get on the board. They can't

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lost second chance points.

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Speaker 4: And again they have to keep Michigan State off the

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free throw line, you know, especially Fears.

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Speaker 3: You can let con Carr get to the line.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't shoot him well, but Fears and Jackson Cohler,

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really Jackson Cohler is another unheralded guy who is an

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elite rebounder on both ends, shoots the three better than

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anybody on this team, and gets out on the break.

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Speaker 3: So Cohler is a big deal.

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Speaker 4: But if you're Wisconsin again, you want to be able

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to stop the break. Don't let Michigan State get the

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cheap points that they want, second chance points, or get

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to the free throw line.

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Speaker 3: If you can do all that, it's still going to

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be difficult against this MSU defense, which ranks towards the

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top in every single category in Big Ten play.

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Speaker 4: You know Boyd and Blackwell, what more can you say

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about the guards here? That's where it all starts, and

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they do have a little bit of ability to shoot

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from the outside of the bigs to crash the boards

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with the bigs. My first inclination here when I started

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going through this was I'm going.

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Speaker 3: To play Michigan State.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that Wisconsin is going to be able

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to consistently score in this game. But what kept me

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back a little bit, Adam, is the fact that, yeah,

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Michigan State is a fast break a solid fast break team,

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and they depend on it a lot. But the Wisconsin

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team doesn't turn the ball over much. So again, if

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they're not slow in transition defense, they could hang in there.

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I do still think Michigan State's the better team. Somebody

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pushed it up to two and a half this morning

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came right back to one and a half. Let's look

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now real quick before I turn it over to you

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and see what the line is here. Yeah, we're back

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to two and a half. So this line's done some

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flip flopping over the course of the three hours between

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seven am and ten am now Eastern time. I would

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probably look Michigan State's way, just because I think in

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the end that rebound toughness is going to get them through.

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And again I wonder slightly about Wisconsin having to struggle

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so much against it.

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Speaker 3: That struggle because Illinois is a tough team.

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Speaker 4: To beat, but it feels like when you don't have

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Boswell and you don't have Stoyakovich and you're leaving it

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in the backcourt to Waggler solely, you should be able

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to win.

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Speaker 3: They couldn't do it. We'll see.

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Speaker 4: I don't see a lot of lane penetration out of

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Wisconsin that I'll tell you that. Nick Boyd, he's gonna

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have to shoot threes because he's going to go into

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the trees and get swatted away.

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Speaker 3: So rim defense is huge on the Michigan State side.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to take a stance it's going to be

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with Michigan State minus the two points.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if I had to take a stance, that's how

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it would be. As well.

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Speaker 1: I threw the Michigan State hoodie on this morning just

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because I was like, you know what, what are we

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going to talk about here? And new we would talk

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about this game if I had to bet it, That's

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the way I would bet it. But I want to

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go through I'm going to my breakdown is just going

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to be kind of there's a lot of good comments

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coming in from our viewers for this game, and so

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by one because I think it's very interesting. So, uh,

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we'll start with Mark. He says, how do we not

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take Michigan State money line? Well, it depends on how

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how you think this game is gonna go. Because if

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you if you like a team that's gonna win in

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the gray area, that's gonna win all of the intangibles,

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you gotta love Michigan State money line. But the game

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of basketball is still putting the ball through the basket.

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And Wisconsin, if they get going, they can shoot the ball,

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and then you have to then you have to worry

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about you know, them kind of riding the home atmosphere

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to a natoh run, a ten oh run, and you

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know that's something that Michigan State has been prone to.

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They have not They've had They've had a couple of

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very near well, no, they did have a catastrophic loss

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on the road to Minnesota, and prior to that, rob

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they almost lost to Rutgers at Rutgers.

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Speaker 2: That is that is not a those are those are

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not good road results.

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Speaker 1: To throw one more and from much earlier in the

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season they only lost or they only won by or

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at Penn State. So like, if you're having these near

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misses on the road to the bottom half of the

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Big Ten, you know, try the Cole Center on for size, Right,

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that is not the place that you want to go

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and have a hiccup and suddenly gave up a ten

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oher run, you know, to a Wisconsin team that can

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make shots, and suddenly you're in a ten point hole.

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Now you got to claw back. Ocho says, both teams

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are off ot games. Yeah, but Michigan's game against Over

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in overtime was a week ago, So what does that matter, Right,

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They've had a week off and I just want to

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double check that because now I'm going off memory.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, they have not played.

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Speaker 1: They have not played since Saturday when they beat Illinois

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in overtime at home. Wisconsin has had to play multiple

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games since then, and one of those games was of

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course an overtime trip to Champagne. They've actually played back

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to back OT games because the game on Saturday against

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Indiana was decided in overtime as well, so again created

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equal In my opinion, I think that probably favors Michigan

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State a little bit. That was a you know, that

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game took a lot out in my opinion that that

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was a grueling game for Wisconsin to have to then

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go into OT with Illinois really needed a big second

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half to do it. Let's go to Shane. So Shane's

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gonna be in the building tonight. I absolutely love this, Shane.

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I'll be in the building somewhere tonight too, It's just

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not gonna be at the Coals Center. So I absolutely

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love that. Shane'sys Michigan State playing in Madison. Give me

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the Badgers. Well, if you like the home angle, and

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if you agree with Shane who's saying the Badgers are

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going to hit a bunch of threes. If Wisconsin's hitting threes.

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They're probably winning this game. Like if they are, if

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they could go out and have a night rob where

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they shoot forty or fifty percent from three, I'd be

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shocked if Wisconsin win doesn't win this game. So it

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really comes down to and this is why I kind

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of use I don't like throwing the term coin flip

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around because I feel like too many people throw the

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ter coin flip around, and it's like, just because a

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spread is won does not make the game of coin flip.

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The reason I think this one fits that sort of

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moniker is it's really going to come down to how

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Wisconsin shoots the ball. If they don't shoot it well,

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Michigan State will likely win in every other area, which

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means they should win the game. But the great equalizer

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in the game of basketball, where you only earn points

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for putting the ball through the basket, is the ability

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to put the ball in the basket. Wisconsin can do that,

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they can shoot the rock. If they shoot it well tonight,

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they will win. And that's why even though I lead

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Michigan State, I'm out of this one. Ocho says, Michigan

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State will kill them on the glass. Yeah, they probably will,

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but again you don't get points on the scoreboard for rebounding.

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You do get points on the scoreboard for the ball

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going in the basket. And that is the fear for

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me with Michigan State is that Wisconsin gets hot and

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suddenly they're able to sort of ride that Coal Center

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atmosphere to a lead, which means they can probably win

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the game. But enjoy the game tonight, chain good luck,

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whatever decide sighed, you decide to be on. I feel like,

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if you're at Call Center on a Friday night, rob

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Wisconsin Michigan State, You've already won.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what you're right there, You're already a winner.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the game real quick, just to sum it

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up or wrap it upbout it.

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Speaker 3: It's such a contrast.

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Speaker 4: You know, Wisconsin is a fast paced team, third tempo team,

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third fastest tempo team in that league. And that's how

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you want to beat Michigan State's defense, right. You want

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to get out and get down the floor a streakcaus

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you can before they can set up.

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Speaker 3: And again, I don't see Blackwell and Boyd getting to the.

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Speaker 4: Rim a lot against this Michigan State team, which not

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only rebounds but block shots.

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Speaker 3: Is well, they protect the rim, let's put it that way.

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Speaker 4: But if those two guys are hitting threes, and also

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they have bigs that can step out and hit threes,

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and so Wisconsin just has more options. How many times

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have we in Michigan State this year where Fears has

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no help on offense, it's just Jeremiah Fears and nobody

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comes to the rescue. Jackson Cohler when he shows up

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is good. Cone Car when he shows up, you're even better.

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But it's just an.

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Speaker 3: Interesting contrast in styles here.

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Speaker 4: And like you say, if Michigan, if Wisconsin's hitting their shots,

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I don't know that Michigan State can make as many

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shots as Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: Can they? In my mind, they certainly can't.

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Speaker 1: Manzy somehow managed to get to a teaser to Michigan

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plus eight and a half. Listen, I don't condone teasing

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college basketball, but if you're there with that number, ride it.

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Don't don't try to middle that you got a good position.

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Just just see it out. In my opinion, let's go

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to mad Max. Let's go to a game number two.

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Max says, Saint Louis looks like they're in a smash spot,

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but it looks too easy. Always get a little weary

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when it seems like a shoe in.

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 1: Well, I my thought, my first thought is it's a

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big number. My second thought is, Rob, it's big for

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a reason. My third thought is there's not a chance

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that I would take Loyola Chicago. So the way my

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very quick handicap before I turned this over to Rob,

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if you do.

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Speaker 2: Not like Saint Louis, find something else to bet.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, there's no there's there's no basketball reason

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to think Loyola Chicago doesn't get their brains beat in

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tonight by the Saint Louis team. My number is actually higher,

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It's not that much higher, but I'm at twenty point one.

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Since I've basically taken every prior out of my handicapping

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for Loyola Chicago, It's what I had to do. Rob,

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I told you that this was a team that kept

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showing value for me because of like where I expected

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them to be at the beginning of the season. Now

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on in season data, I've got Saint Louis minus twenty

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point one, so I didn't have many numerical edges today.

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This one is not enough for me to act on.

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But if you can get eighteen and a half, which

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is it opened eighteen and a half, it's still eighteen

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and a half. I think there's actually slight value on

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the billikens.

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Speaker 2: Do you agree or disagree?

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Speaker 3: Well, I can't disagree.

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Speaker 4: I mean Saint Louis has been too good to boosting

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the accounts this year, and they've just been too good

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on the flote.

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Speaker 3: My first, you know, when you have.

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Speaker 4: A team like Saint Louis Adam in a conference like this,

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The first thing I did was say, well, is there

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a game on debt that might have their interest? Then

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I remember, oh, yeah, it's the A ten. There's nothing

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that could be on debt that would have their interest.

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It turns out to be Rhode Island on Tuesday night.

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They haven't played there, another team that hasn't played in

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six games. They'll have played two games in ten days

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when they take on Rhode Island down the road. Listen,

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Loyola can't defend anything if you firmly believe that. Coach

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Shirts might say, you know, let's guys, second half and

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you want to get in and get out.

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Speaker 3: You want to play first half because the number is

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a little bit cheaper if you split it.

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Speaker 4: That way, And maybe Saint Louis has been off to

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some great starts this year where they've just destroyed people

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in the first ten minutes and you collect your cash

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pretty easy first half. But I don't know that I

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would fear anything as far as full game is concerned.

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Speaker 3: Here. Loyola gives you no reason to believe.

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Speaker 4: Unless Saint Louis is just that either they're rusty from

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six days off or they're just not caring enough on

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defense to let and let Loyola score. In fact that

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those things don't happen, this has to be a twenty

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five point win for the Saint Louis side. I think

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in my mind, this team is probably absolutely hungry to

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get back out on the court and do some more

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offensive damage. Sure, and there's there's just no keep up

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for Loyola here, Adams. So the team total, it's like

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eighty seven and a half. You have to get to

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eighty eight, not that Saint Louis can't, but I don't

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think I want to go there, just because if the

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end of game gets like we're.

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Speaker 3: Winning by thirty, who cares.

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Speaker 4: The other side of me says Rob, they probably putting

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ninety on this team, go ahead and do it. I

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mean you kind of ride that fence here because the

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oddsmakers put in a good spot. But there's no way

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to back Loyola here. They could cover it. Don't get

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me wrong. Things happen in college too, but there's no

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way you're going to give me the bit Loyola.

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Speaker 3: In any capacity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't.

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Speaker 1: You don't think Loyola can get run out at home.

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Saint Joe's won by twenty one here not too long ago, right,

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Like you know, last time out they lost by twenty

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to Davidson.

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Speaker 2: That's not a good Davidson team. I mean, Saint Louis.

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Speaker 1: Is just so elite in comparison to pretty much everyone

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else in this league at this point that it twenty

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is doable.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Like you knee jerk reaction to see in eighteen and

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a half with the road team is like, oh, that's

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a big number. I don't know, I think that's doable. Like,

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let's put it this way. Saint Louis in their last game,

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they were at home against Lesal. They were a twenty

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two and a half point favorite. They still covered that.

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That was that was what I consider to be kind

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of a big number eighteen and a half on a

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road against a team that's six and nineteen and has

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just had no like semblance of like being like any

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good all year. I would have to lay it with

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Saint Louis. It's that is it is a tough thing

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to do national TV ESPN two, and you're talking about

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taking an eighteen and a half point road favorite. But

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rob they know they're on ESPN two as well, right

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Like they might not care so much about Loyola Chicago,

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but don't get make no mistake, Saint Louis is going

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to know they're on national television tonight, and my guess

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is they're gonna want to show out, so lean towards

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the Billikens. For me, I don't I saw a couple

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of people in the chat. I don't hate doing the

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first first half thing. Listen, I've kind of said this.

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You could do first half. You could go like first half.

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If it doesn't work out, come over the top with

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second half. Saint Louis will roll one of these two halves,

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right like they will. They're going to win one of

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these two halfs. So if you take the first half

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it doesn't work out, maybe you do half a unit

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on the first half, come over the top with like

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one point five on the second half if you want

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to go that way, or just lay the eighteen and

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a half. Like I said, I'm at twenty point one,

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so I do lean toward the Billikens. All right, Rob

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Bino quick promo, double the Firepower CBB. That's all of

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my plays, Alla, Rob's plays for the entire weekend in

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college basketball. Like I said, I'll, I will. I'll be

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at a game tonight too. I'll see if you guys

476
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can figure out which one.

477
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Speaker 3: You know.

478
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 1: Well, I'll probably tell you by the end of the show.

479
00:23:50,599 --> 00:23:54,960
Totally unexpected. I had to change some plans, but something

480
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,519
came up that I couldn't pass up. So we'll give

481
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you guys the rest of the show to guess what's

482
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,079
going on. But I will be on the road as

483
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,319
soon as this show is over. I guess that's a

484
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,119
little bit of a hint. All right, Garth says, let's

485
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,640
go to the ivy. He says, thoughts on Cornell Princeton.

486
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,680
He's leaning the home dog with Princeton. Also real quick Twitter,

487
00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:20,039
it looks like change the algorithm. So I'm just gonna

488
00:24:20,039 --> 00:24:22,160
make this announcement on a show by show basis. Now,

489
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,720
if you are if you are accustomed to watching this

490
00:24:24,759 --> 00:24:27,400
show on Twitter, you're gonna have to go to YouTube.

491
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,279
I've retweeted the link, but I don't know that wager

492
00:24:30,319 --> 00:24:32,319
talk is retweeting the link from theirs yet.

493
00:24:32,759 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 2: I just have to like, that's gonna be a PSA.

494
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to say it for like the next

495
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,440
week or two because some folks said they couldn't find

496
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,319
the show live the other day. We're always live on YouTube,

497
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,960
so you may have to start watching the show there. Okay,

498
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,400
back to Garth Robino. He wants to talk Coronell Princeton.

499
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,240
We talked about this game earlier this year.

500
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Speaker 2: I was wrong.

501
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 1: I believe I put Princeton in our parlay and they

502
00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,000
got their teeth kicked in by Cornell. I was completely

503
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:06,680
wrong about Princeton's ability to handle the Brian Earle two

504
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:07,960
point zero pressure.

505
00:25:08,079 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 2: Right.

506
00:25:08,319 --> 00:25:11,799
Speaker 1: This is Joe Jocks. He's basically was an Earl assistant.

507
00:25:12,039 --> 00:25:16,279
He's playing the same style that Brian Earle played at Cornell.

508
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,480
I'm on record calling them Timu Coronell, which is apparently offensive,

509
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,440
But I really believe that this Cornell team is like

510
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,960
a knockoff version of the Brian Earle teams Robino. We

511
00:25:28,039 --> 00:25:31,319
have raved about Brian Earl on the show and the

512
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,720
job he has done at William and Mary. So my

513
00:25:34,839 --> 00:25:39,119
question to you is this, Cornell, what does Princeton do

514
00:25:39,279 --> 00:25:41,839
to not allow what happened in the first meeting to

515
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:42,839
happen again here?

516
00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:46,319
Speaker 2: I don't know that they have the answer. What do

517
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:47,759
you think, Cornell Princeton.

518
00:25:48,279 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 4: Well, they probably don't. I don't know that you can

519
00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:54,079
change that quickly at him. Again, that game was January thirtieth,

520
00:25:54,079 --> 00:25:58,759
so you're talking about a two week period to make adjustments.

521
00:25:58,799 --> 00:26:00,759
And again, I'm one of those guys who says coaches

522
00:26:00,799 --> 00:26:02,880
always want to fix what went wrong, but if you

523
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,400
can't handle a certain style, just refer to the two

524
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,039
meetings between NC Wilmington and William and Mary to use

525
00:26:10,079 --> 00:26:13,400
a comparison. NC Wilmington, as good as they are second

526
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,599
time around, could still couldn't beat this style, and it

527
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,079
could be the same exact thing for Princeton. Cornell is

528
00:26:19,079 --> 00:26:22,359
actually playing pretty well at this point in time, I

529
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,839
think four and won their last five. They continue to

530
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,279
score at will You have to outscore him to beat him.

531
00:26:28,319 --> 00:26:31,319
Penn Well Fran McCaffrey was able to do so a

532
00:26:31,319 --> 00:26:34,039
couple of games ago, Fran out scored him, got over ninety.

533
00:26:34,519 --> 00:26:37,839
But Princeton was just beaten in every single area of

534
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,000
the game the first time around. Just to give you

535
00:26:40,039 --> 00:26:43,559
some quick numbers from that box score in that game,

536
00:26:44,039 --> 00:26:47,359
how about Cornell from two point range in that game,

537
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,039
Adam twenty four of twenty seven? Who's the guy who

538
00:26:51,079 --> 00:26:53,880
missed the three shots? Twenty four to twenty seven? Eighty

539
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,920
nine percent from inside the arc? Eleven threes to go

540
00:26:58,039 --> 00:27:02,200
with that free throw line was necessary in that game. Again,

541
00:27:02,279 --> 00:27:07,839
I just certain teams can't handle certain styles, no matter

542
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:13,279
how good statistically they may look. It's the same in boxing.

543
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,279
Matchups make fights. Matchups make these games. I don't know

544
00:27:17,319 --> 00:27:20,319
that Princeton's equipped enough to slow Cornell down. What slows

545
00:27:20,319 --> 00:27:23,400
Cornell down, Adam, is a bad shooting night, And if

546
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,799
that happens, But when you're that close, when you're inside

547
00:27:26,839 --> 00:27:30,839
the r kidding eighty nine percent, that's kind of red flagish, like,

548
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,200
how did you allow?

549
00:27:32,519 --> 00:27:33,319
Speaker 3: I get that?

550
00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:37,079
Speaker 4: That's a you know, that's like it and beyond excellent

551
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,920
shooting night when you shoot eighty nine percent from inside

552
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,240
the ork. But the deepense has to be somewhat responsible

553
00:27:43,279 --> 00:27:46,839
for that as well, and can Princeton correct all of that.

554
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,279
Suppose Cornell shoots I don't know, seventy percent, they shoot

555
00:27:50,279 --> 00:27:53,240
twenty percent less tonight, still probably gonna win the game.

556
00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:55,599
They won that one by twenty three. On that night,

557
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,200
game hit one fifty one. As always with me, I'm

558
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,200
looking at totals with Cornell. Game has come down to

559
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,279
one fifty five and a half with the Cornell price

560
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,200
going up somehow, you know, money thinks it's going to

561
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,960
be an under. It was the first time one fifty

562
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,119
one despite eighty seven out of Cornell. I think if

563
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,319
there's one thing to look at here for me, it

564
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,359
would probably be Cornell getting back to eighty in this game.

565
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,039
Their team total seventy nine and a half. I find

566
00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:25,039
it hard to believe they don't get to eighty in

567
00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:30,400
this game. So my best advice for Garth would be

568
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:35,440
I'd look Cornell team total. And Garth says he's leaning

569
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,960
home dogs, so he's taking points here. I'm coming from

570
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,119
the other angle here, coming from total side. Cornell team

571
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,480
total over seventy nine and a half.

572
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: Rob, I think you made the best point you could

573
00:28:46,279 --> 00:28:49,799
possibly make on this game, comparing it to the Wilmington

574
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,720
William and Mary sort of dichotomy that we just saw,

575
00:28:52,759 --> 00:28:57,319
where like Wilmington's of course last night, also shout out Colin.

576
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,200
Colin Gregory, his parlay would have hit Elmont William to

577
00:29:01,279 --> 00:29:04,279
Wilmington we talked on the Moneyline party we talked about

578
00:29:04,319 --> 00:29:07,160
on the show. But like that's a great example Wilmington

579
00:29:08,599 --> 00:29:11,599
since the William and Mary games right, like, they crushed Charleston,

580
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,480
they win big last night, they won all their other games,

581
00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:16,000
but they just can't handle this style.

582
00:29:16,039 --> 00:29:17,519
Speaker 2: It's just a bad matchup for them.

583
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: And it like didn't even matter that it was a

584
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,200
huge home game sellout at Trash Coliseum.

585
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 2: William and Mary went in there and won, no problem.

586
00:29:24,759 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: Now this is a weird one for me because my

587
00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:31,039
this is I didn't have many numerical edges on today's board.

588
00:29:31,119 --> 00:29:32,839
A lot of the numbers are close to what I

589
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,799
make them. One of them, there's really only two that

590
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,000
stuck out. One of them was Princeton. So like Garth,

591
00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:42,319
I get where you're coming from, being like, yeah, you know,

592
00:29:42,359 --> 00:29:44,680
I kind of maybe like Princeton on the number because

593
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,920
now you're up to three and a half. Cornell took money,

594
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,200
so you're up to three and a half. My number

595
00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:54,319
leads Princeton as well. There and listen, Coronell, it can

596
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,680
it's they could mess up a game like this, Like Cornell,

597
00:29:58,759 --> 00:30:00,960
by no means is a great team this year. So

598
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,880
they can come out play poorly on the on the

599
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,880
road and you know, not really defend, and suddenly Princeton's

600
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,359
in the game. But I look at the way they've

601
00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:13,759
played of late. They've won four of their last five.

602
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,279
One of those games on this stretch was an eighty

603
00:30:16,319 --> 00:30:20,680
seven to sixty four win over Princeton, and the one

604
00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:26,039
loss on that stretch was to pen who really has

605
00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:29,799
some offensive talent at this point. That's fran McCaffrey. That's

606
00:30:29,839 --> 00:30:32,119
you know, he inherited a couple of guys that can

607
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,279
really score. And that's a team that I think matches

608
00:30:35,359 --> 00:30:38,400
up well with Cornell. So for me right here, like

609
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,359
I just want no part of fading Cornell with a

610
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,960
team that I don't think is equipped to play their style.

611
00:30:45,319 --> 00:30:48,000
Princeton is clearly not equipped to play their style. So

612
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,640
I actually leaned toward the big red, But it was

613
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,559
the number that sort of kept me off because as

614
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,839
much as I think this is a nice stylistic matchup

615
00:30:55,839 --> 00:30:58,359
for big for Cornell, I want no part of them

616
00:30:58,359 --> 00:31:00,720
as a road favorite because they're still not that great

617
00:31:00,759 --> 00:31:02,799
of a team. This isn't if it was Brian Earle

618
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,359
and the teams from a couple of years ago.

619
00:31:04,599 --> 00:31:08,079
Speaker 2: Sign me up, la la five. This team don't really

620
00:31:08,119 --> 00:31:11,079
want to lay three and a half, so I don't.

621
00:31:11,079 --> 00:31:12,519
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was enough to talk you

622
00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:15,400
off Princeton. Not trying to talk you off Princeton, but

623
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,839
for me it has to be Corneller pass. Just the

624
00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:20,599
matchup and what going back to what Rob said, I

625
00:31:20,599 --> 00:31:24,440
think nailed it. Hard to imagine they figured out in

626
00:31:24,519 --> 00:31:27,279
this quick of a turnaround since the last time that

627
00:31:27,359 --> 00:31:32,559
these two teams played. Good discussion there though, that was

628
00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:34,799
an interesting one. I'm glad that one got brought up.

629
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,720
Glad that one got brought up because I thought that

630
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,079
that was an interesting conversation.

631
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Princeton's path is just to score more of

632
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,799
this game. It don't score sixty four, shoot better. Cornell

633
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,279
will allow you to score. That's their path. If you're

634
00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:53,880
going to play Princeton, just think that their offense is

635
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:54,519
going to be better.

636
00:31:54,519 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 3: Because I don't think their defense matches up against that style.

637
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: Silver Hazey says, Hey, Trig Whitey gave me permission to

638
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,680
go to a game next weekend for my Valentine's Day

639
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,480
gift them in Southeast Michigan.

640
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: Want to go out of state? What do you suggest?

641
00:32:09,759 --> 00:32:11,359
I'll have to look at the schedule and get back

642
00:32:11,359 --> 00:32:11,559
to you.

643
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,799
Speaker 1: Southeast Michigan, so I'll have to figure out you can

644
00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:17,720
get down to Ohio. You could probably get over to Wisconsin.

645
00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:22,519
Illinois isn't too bad. I'll have to see, we'll get

646
00:32:22,519 --> 00:32:24,920
back to you. I will jot that down. I'll look

647
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,359
at the schedule. I will be at Merrimack Cianna next weekend.

648
00:32:29,359 --> 00:32:31,880
That's where I will be on Friday night. I think

649
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,960
that might be a one off for me, especially after

650
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,480
this weekend, but can't miss that one. So you know

651
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,480
that's that's going to be Massachusetts by the New Hampshire border.

652
00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:43,200
Don't don't know if you're in the market for that,

653
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,400
but that will be a fun one. That's probably sold out,

654
00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:47,839
but I could probably get you a ticket to that

655
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,200
if you need if you needed one regardless, all right,

656
00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:55,279
back to games. We've got a lot of donations today

657
00:32:56,519 --> 00:33:01,759
that'll that. Hopefully that will make Kelly in Vegas happy.

658
00:33:01,799 --> 00:33:04,359
She was not thrilled that I informed her I will

659
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,799
not be doing full Court a Last Call tomorrow, so Rob,

660
00:33:07,839 --> 00:33:11,200
you will have a guest post to do the games

661
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,599
because I will be in an arena. And again I

662
00:33:16,839 --> 00:33:19,319
will reveal that at some point as the show goes on,

663
00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:22,400
I want to go to Robert Surpus First. Robert wants

664
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,759
to go to the Mac. I love talking Mac basketball,

665
00:33:26,319 --> 00:33:30,200
he says, any thoughts on Mount Saint Mary's, I'm all

666
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,079
in on Mount Saint Mary's.

667
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: Well, I get it.

668
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: They're on the road in Lawrenceville, New Jersey tonight at Ryder,

669
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,319
who's been one of the worst teams in Division one

670
00:33:41,359 --> 00:33:45,519
all season. But I will note that this is kind

671
00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:50,599
of a tricky trip. It is so Ryder's not the

672
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,519
easiest place I think to play.

673
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: Rob.

674
00:33:53,319 --> 00:33:55,079
Speaker 1: Back in the day, I got a name for you

675
00:33:55,119 --> 00:33:59,559
as an NBA guy, Jason Thompson, great rider BRONC first

676
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,920
round those games.

677
00:34:02,119 --> 00:34:02,839
Speaker 2: That was so.

678
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,559
Speaker 1: Jason Thompson is the same age as me. He was

679
00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:07,759
in school two thousand and four to two thousand and eight,

680
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:12,360
so his years at Ryder. It's unfortunate he never got

681
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,320
to the NCAA tournament. The reason he never got to

682
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,840
the NCAA Tournament was he either had to go through

683
00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:20,960
the Marist Jared Jordan teams, another guy that had a

684
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,199
cup of coffee in the NBA. Thompson had a great

685
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,480
NBA career, but he also had to go through Fran

686
00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:28,559
McCaffrey's Sienna teams. I believe we beat Ryder in the

687
00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:31,559
final one year. But like you want to talk about,

688
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,079
kind of like, you know, disappointing that he never got

689
00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:37,599
his crack at the NCAA tournament because those were some

690
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:40,679
really good Rider teams that just ended up not being

691
00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:43,280
able to get over the hump against better teams. But

692
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,159
Jason Thompson best player in the history of Ryder. Ryder

693
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:50,119
has seen better days. I'm sure that they would love

694
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:54,000
to get back to that point because this gym alumni,

695
00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:57,639
Jim Lawrenceville, New Jersey, used to be rocking for Ryder

696
00:34:57,679 --> 00:34:58,239
home games.

697
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: It's small, They put the kick kids in the end zone.

698
00:35:01,039 --> 00:35:05,119
Speaker 1: It's almost like a cutout, and it's like auxiliary bleachers

699
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:06,280
that are lowed as hell.

700
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 2: It is a great atmosphere for Ride of basketball. When

701
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,920
Riders playing well, you know, what.

702
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,519
Speaker 1: It hasn't even been that bad this year, now that

703
00:35:14,559 --> 00:35:17,320
the kids are back. I've seen some Rider fans at games.

704
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,360
It's obviously not as many when you're three and twenty

705
00:35:20,519 --> 00:35:23,519
and you've only had one win over the D one

706
00:35:23,559 --> 00:35:25,920
opponent this year, rob which was a game I happened

707
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,440
to be at. They beat Iona. You know, tough times.

708
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,840
But the reason I bring all that up is Mount

709
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,280
Saint Mary's is to make the trip. It's not an

710
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,400
easy trip. And I was on Rider in this game.

711
00:35:39,639 --> 00:35:42,719
In the first meeting, I felt like I got a

712
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,199
little bit unlucky to push.

713
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,599
Speaker 2: I had Ryder plus ten. Ryder was tied at half.

714
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: It was a very very competitive game and Mount Saint

715
00:35:51,079 --> 00:35:53,199
Mary's kind of distanced themselves at the end.

716
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 2: So this was another one. My number kind of came

717
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,840
out right in this range. But I would I don't

718
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,119
think it's going to be that easy.

719
00:36:01,519 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 1: Mount Saint Mary's is a tough you know, they're all

720
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,519
the way down in Enittsburg, Maryland. They're a relatively new

721
00:36:07,559 --> 00:36:11,559
addition to the conference, and like I think it's tough,

722
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:13,719
it's tough to go down there if you're a visitor.

723
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,599
In my opinion, it's also I think tough for them

724
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,679
to be on the road, still relatively new to the league.

725
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,960
I think this is their second or third year, so

726
00:36:22,119 --> 00:36:25,159
based on how even the first meeting was, I like

727
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,159
Ryder here. Plus the points hasn't made my card yet,

728
00:36:28,159 --> 00:36:31,320
but I've cast a couple of times this season with Ryder.

729
00:36:32,559 --> 00:36:34,639
I don't know, do you think I'm crazy for liking

730
00:36:34,679 --> 00:36:37,519
the Bronx tonight in Lawrenceville, New Jersey.

731
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,559
Speaker 3: I've tried here to help build a case for you, Ryder.

732
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 4: First of all, I could not get involved here just

733
00:36:46,039 --> 00:36:51,920
based on the ups and downs of results by Riders offense.

734
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,639
You know, in ninety against Manhattan, eighty one against Saint

735
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,800
Pete and then fifty two and forty seven in their

736
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,920
last two games, lose by nine, lose after that by

737
00:37:03,119 --> 00:37:09,159
twenty six. However, in Ryders defense, those games are against

738
00:37:09,199 --> 00:37:11,719
the two best defensive teams in the league, right, Merist

739
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,519
and Merrimack. If anybody's gonna shut Ryder down, Riders the

740
00:37:15,519 --> 00:37:17,599
worst offense, so you put the worst offense against the

741
00:37:17,639 --> 00:37:19,840
two best defense, then you probably going for that result.

742
00:37:20,119 --> 00:37:21,960
The fact that they got to eighty one and ninety

743
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,840
a couple of days before, it's kind of interesting, but

744
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,320
they have the ability to get destroyed. Mount Saint Mary's

745
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,320
wins by ten the first time. As you mentioned that,

746
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,079
they didn't really allow much in the way of offense

747
00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:38,119
for Ryder. Ryder shoots thirty percent from two point range,

748
00:37:39,039 --> 00:37:42,119
forty six shots inside the ark and can only make fourteen.

749
00:37:42,199 --> 00:37:47,960
It's tough to bet a team solely based on what

750
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,920
would be considered a defensive step down and class off

751
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,239
of their last two and a Friday night home floor.

752
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,039
Mount Saint Mary's is a more talented side. They're not

753
00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:02,559
great offensive, which I guess is what would kind of

754
00:38:02,599 --> 00:38:04,679
hold you back from laying five and a half again,

755
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,400
the total is the thing that's been really.

756
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:10,039
Speaker 3: Pushed here down down down to now.

757
00:38:10,119 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 4: One thirty seven and a half is the low point

758
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,039
I see, and one thirty two were only scored in

759
00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:15,920
the first game, so.

760
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 3: It shouldn't get a lot of pace. You probably get

761
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,119
a lot of bricks. I don't know.

762
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,559
Speaker 4: Maybe I could agree with the folks who moved over

763
00:38:25,079 --> 00:38:28,239
down five points and play and I got there ticket

764
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,440
in on under, but Under's not generally in my vocabulary

765
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,519
at this price range.

766
00:38:33,519 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 3: When thirty seven and a half, no matter who's playing,

767
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,239
so I'd have to let it pass. I would find

768
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,119
it really hard.

769
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 4: It's one of those we used to say, just hold

770
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,239
your nose and play the dog riders that kind of dog.

771
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,840
There's spots where they cover, but you have to just

772
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,679
cover your eyes and wait for the.

773
00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:53,599
Speaker 2: Final Yeah, it's a really good point. Rob Where I've

774
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,480
where I've had success.

775
00:38:55,159 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: With Ryders so far this year is in that like

776
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,800
almost like that eight to eleven point dog range where

777
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,400
if they're in the game, you're probably gonna have a

778
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,440
good chance to cover the number. This is sort of

779
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,239
this is one of those where it's like it's just

780
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,599
a little too you know, the number is such that

781
00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:18,800
it's like if Mount Saint Mary's can get a lead

782
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,000
at the end and then they take a couple of

783
00:39:21,079 --> 00:39:24,199
trips to the free throw line, you could be in trouble.

784
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,119
And honestly, that's how the first meeting went. Like I

785
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,760
was in that game the entire way. It was tied

786
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,840
at halftime, and they nearly covered ten with the last

787
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,480
two minutes of like kind of you know, fouling going

788
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,519
to the line all of a sudden, Rider needs to

789
00:39:39,559 --> 00:39:42,320
make a shot. Now, they're not a great offensive team,

790
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,000
as you've pointed out, you know, and now all of

791
00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:47,960
a sudden you're you know, you're kind of in need

792
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,679
of a late sort of like backdoor situation when you're

793
00:39:52,679 --> 00:39:54,480
talking about a number like five and a half. So

794
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,920
that's ultimately why I passed on that one. But again,

795
00:39:59,079 --> 00:40:03,239
I would be I be weary of I'd be weary

796
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:04,800
of laying.

797
00:40:04,559 --> 00:40:06,119
Speaker 2: Points on the road with Mount Saint Mary's.

798
00:40:06,119 --> 00:40:08,639
Speaker 1: This is not last year's team, which I didn't even

799
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,840
really love, last year's team that somehow made the NCAA Tournament.

800
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,920
I think Mount Saint Mary's has been overvalued all year,

801
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:19,400
and they are overvalued still in my opinion. All right,

802
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:22,639
here's what we're gonna do. So I gotta shout out

803
00:40:22,639 --> 00:40:26,639
mad Max real quick. We appreciate the donation, but that's

804
00:40:26,679 --> 00:40:29,840
a Saturday day game. We are gonna leave Saturday games

805
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,639
for the Saturday Show, So I will text it. I

806
00:40:32,639 --> 00:40:34,840
will be texting Kelly Stewart as soon as I'm off

807
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,000
the show, even though she's mad at me right now.

808
00:40:37,039 --> 00:40:41,480
And I'm gonna say, Kelly, Kansas Iowa State has to

809
00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:43,800
open the Saturday Show. Why would it not. Anyway, it's

810
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:48,119
a one pm game and aims a huge game between

811
00:40:48,159 --> 00:40:51,480
two top ten teams. So mad Max, we will do

812
00:40:51,559 --> 00:40:55,199
that one tomorrow first thing on Last Call. If you

813
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,559
want another one, let me know in the chat if

814
00:40:58,559 --> 00:41:01,119
you want one from today, because I feel like we

815
00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:03,480
owe you one from today. Appreciate the donations. A lot

816
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,599
of donations to the show. Like I said, Rob and I,

817
00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:10,800
we donate the donations to charity. It's more of a

818
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,079
pride thing. I just want to out. I want to

819
00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:17,800
out earn donations on all the other shows. Then I've

820
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,440
got Then I've got Amo. When Kelly's not happy with me,

821
00:41:20,639 --> 00:41:22,920
you know, I don't know if I actually don't know

822
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:23,880
if that's Ammo or not.

823
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,679
Speaker 2: We'll find out. Colin, you got it all right.

824
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: So the reason I'm not going to be on Last

825
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,559
Call tomorrow is I had an opportunity to go to

826
00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:36,719
the Duke game follow my lab, which I can't pass up.

827
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: Duke Clemson tomorrow at noon.

828
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: I would do the show from the arena if we

829
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,559
were if I was in like you know, some other place,

830
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,159
But uh, I don't think the Cameron Crazy's are going

831
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,280
to allow that. They're very loud, and I have to

832
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,320
imagine you won't even be able to hear in the

833
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,400
arena at eleven fifteen when last call is going. So

834
00:41:58,199 --> 00:42:02,000
I will be in the d ish area this weekend.

835
00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:04,760
So Colin, you got it correct. As soon as this

836
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,079
show is done, Trigg on the road bombing down the

837
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,800
whatever highway that is to get to Washington, d C.

838
00:42:13,079 --> 00:42:15,519
It's about six hour drive from where I live. I

839
00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:18,119
should be there with a few minutes to spare. And

840
00:42:18,199 --> 00:42:21,599
I am going to this game tonight George Mason, George Washington.

841
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,719
It also happens to be a client play for me,

842
00:42:24,039 --> 00:42:26,039
and it also happens to be my leg of the parlay,

843
00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:28,239
So we're gonna knock out a couple of birds with

844
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,920
one stone. I've got two client plays locked in for

845
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,119
tonight already, so I felt like, you know, I can

846
00:42:34,159 --> 00:42:36,840
give one of them here. I am on George Mason

847
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,880
plus two and a half. I cashed earlier this week

848
00:42:40,119 --> 00:42:44,800
backing George Washington, and in that breakdown in the you know,

849
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,400
part of the reason I really like George Washington against

850
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,800
Rhode Island was I did not think that that was

851
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:54,800
a game that was going to matter. That Rafael Cashro

852
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:59,000
was not there. You know, he George Washington by all

853
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,360
accounts I had struggled big time in his absence and

854
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,719
they had lost three straight, and I said, you know what,

855
00:43:05,039 --> 00:43:07,760
this Rhode Island team is not very good. They are

856
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,400
not going to be able to get to the probably

857
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,920
do much in the way of getting to the rim. Anyway,

858
00:43:13,639 --> 00:43:16,280
I felt like we were getting a very cheap number

859
00:43:17,199 --> 00:43:19,880
because I think the market had moved too much for

860
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,800
Castro being out, and all of those things turned out

861
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,840
to be true. We got in at George Washington minus

862
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,239
three and a half. I believe the final was five.

863
00:43:29,559 --> 00:43:32,760
It should have been a lot more. George Washington got

864
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:37,280
it done. Now they go home to play George Mason.

865
00:43:37,679 --> 00:43:39,880
But Rob, I don't think they can win this game

866
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,280
without Castro. I think he's too important to keeping George

867
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,440
Mason away from the rim. And George Mason, for as

868
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,639
good as they've been this year, they really don't shoot

869
00:43:50,679 --> 00:43:52,920
the ball particularly well, so they kind of have to

870
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,960
score at the rim, and now that you don't have Castro,

871
00:43:56,599 --> 00:43:59,119
I feel like they will score at the rim. They

872
00:43:59,199 --> 00:44:02,519
won the earlier meeting with this George Washington team. Castro

873
00:44:02,599 --> 00:44:05,400
played and he played well. So you take Cashtro out.

874
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,159
Suddenly George Mason maybe get some offense. That's a little

875
00:44:09,159 --> 00:44:11,159
bit easier than they would had they had to deal

876
00:44:11,199 --> 00:44:14,199
with him being the rim presence that he is. And

877
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,199
I kind of think the wrong team is favored. So

878
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,639
I took George Mason plus two and a half for

879
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,679
parlay purposes. We're gonna call it plus two because they've

880
00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:25,360
taken a little bit of money. Since I will be

881
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,599
rolling into GW tonight.

882
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: On the visitors.

883
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:33,159
Speaker 1: This is called the revolutionary rivalry, Robbino, did you know

884
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,599
that this is a rivalry game? And I'm gonna go

885
00:44:36,599 --> 00:44:38,360
with the visitors. George Mason will have a bunch of

886
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,760
fans there. G dub had a bunch of fans at

887
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,599
their place earlier this year. I expect a good atmosphere

888
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:47,000
and I think George Mason wins this game. Rob with

889
00:44:47,079 --> 00:44:49,280
no cashtro do you have a way in on the

890
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,039
total here now knowing that George Mason might be there

891
00:44:52,079 --> 00:44:53,079
for some easier points.

892
00:44:54,199 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 4: And I always feel like with George Mason, I want

893
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,039
to play lower scoring games just because the defense has

894
00:44:59,079 --> 00:45:00,039
been so good.

895
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 3: First time around.

896
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,599
Speaker 4: Just to your point, the importance of Castro Adam eight

897
00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:11,760
of thirteen from the field twenty or excuse me, seventeen

898
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:17,559
points in that game, ten defensive rebounds, twelve rebounds overall.

899
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:20,039
I mean it's by far and away leads the team,

900
00:45:20,119 --> 00:45:22,840
So obviously you're taking an awful lot away for a

901
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,679
team it's already missing Benjamin to begin with.

902
00:45:25,159 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 3: So GW loses the first.

903
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 4: Time around by to five with that production from Castro.

904
00:45:33,079 --> 00:45:36,599
Hard to see them, excuse me, on the road, hard

905
00:45:36,639 --> 00:45:38,679
to see them coming back home here, even though the

906
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,639
revenge angle, I guess you would say, because it's in state,

907
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,960
rivalry could apply just tough when you're out manned, and

908
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,840
especially on the DEFENSI end. Sometimes George Mason goes into

909
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:52,239
these droughts, he's scoring droughts. But again to your point,

910
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:57,079
without Castro at the rim, probably not anything extended here tonight.

911
00:45:57,119 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 3: So I could see that George Mason's.

912
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 4: Side total wise, to me, it still seems a little

913
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,320
bit high at him. It started at one point fifty,

914
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,480
and I get GW wants to play with pace and

915
00:46:07,519 --> 00:46:09,440
it's probably their only ticket to victory here.

916
00:46:09,519 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 3: But Mason was able to control it the first time.

917
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 4: Do they control it on the road, Maybe not for

918
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,280
all forty but maybe enough to stay under one forty

919
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:19,760
eight and a half, So that would be as far

920
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,679
as total is concerned, that would be my look under

921
00:46:21,679 --> 00:46:23,519
one forty eight and a half. It seems like money's

922
00:46:23,559 --> 00:46:27,400
gotten there a little bit, one fifty bit down to

923
00:46:27,519 --> 00:46:28,519
one forty eight.

924
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,519
Speaker 3: And a half in that game, so I think I

925
00:46:30,519 --> 00:46:31,239
would lean under.

926
00:46:34,559 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah, I mean, listen, they're again. I'm

927
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,639
just banking on maybe a couple of easier points.

928
00:46:41,679 --> 00:46:44,199
Speaker 1: But George Mason has not put the ball in the

929
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,199
basket with any sort of like regularity of late, So

930
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,840
you know that's I don't dislike the look at under

931
00:46:51,039 --> 00:46:53,760
by any means. Like the way that these two teams

932
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,840
like play, you would think that this is a sort

933
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,519
of dogfight, lower scoring, close team that's got to dig

934
00:47:01,559 --> 00:47:03,639
in and get a defensive stop. I just feel like

935
00:47:03,639 --> 00:47:05,960
with cashtro I'm getting pretty good value getting the bucket.

936
00:47:06,039 --> 00:47:09,320
With George Mason, So George Mason will be my parlay

937
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,039
le Robino, I'm putting you on the spot. Thirteen minutes

938
00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:13,800
left on the show. What are you looking at for

939
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:14,719
the parlay today?

940
00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

941
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 4: Boy, this one was hard, Adam, because I got to

942
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,840
tell you I wanted to try just based on spot.

943
00:47:22,599 --> 00:47:25,639
I wanted to try and get to UNLV plus the

944
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,760
ten points against Boise tonight. Boise comes off of two

945
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:33,719
really good wins against Nevada and New Mexico, and Utah

946
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,159
State is up next for them top of next week.

947
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,440
It's that, you know, UNLB won a couple of games. Now,

948
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,920
maybe they can sneak in here plus ten points. I'm

949
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,159
not saying they can't, But what I am saying is

950
00:47:47,199 --> 00:47:49,239
I think I like one thing a little bit better.

951
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,679
We talked about it earlier and when we were talking

952
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:57,119
about Cornell, and that's Penn and fran McCaffrey at home

953
00:47:57,199 --> 00:48:01,119
tonight against Columbia to get beyond their team total of

954
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,400
seventy four and a half. Penn has started to you know,

955
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,239
they were kind of choppy at them for a while

956
00:48:08,599 --> 00:48:12,039
as far as scoring goes. They played Columbia a couple

957
00:48:12,079 --> 00:48:15,599
of games ago, seventy two to sixty seven final in

958
00:48:15,639 --> 00:48:19,400
that game, and Penn probably couldn't shoot it any worse,

959
00:48:20,119 --> 00:48:22,480
whether it be from inside the ark or from the

960
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,239
foul line, and they still got the sixty seven points

961
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:29,679
on the road despite the poor shooting. They're asking me

962
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,920
now to get eight more points on the home floor

963
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,079
with a team that shot well below with their expectation

964
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,880
or what their averages every single night. I figure that

965
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:44,679
law of averages. People call it, you know, regression to

966
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,840
the mean or whatever. I just call it positive point production.

967
00:48:49,079 --> 00:48:51,679
I think is in effect here for Penn in this

968
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,920
game against Columbia, which to be honest, hasn't been that

969
00:48:55,079 --> 00:48:58,440
great of a defensive team so far this season in

970
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,760
the IVY. They're rated as the lead worst defense defensive

971
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:06,119
efficiency wise, So it only makes sense that Penn would

972
00:49:06,119 --> 00:49:08,960
come back and shoot better against them tonight in their

973
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:14,000
home gym. Again, They're not asking me for a terribly

974
00:49:14,039 --> 00:49:16,960
an overly amount of points extra to what we had

975
00:49:17,039 --> 00:49:20,840
last time, sixty seven to seventy five. Tonight at home,

976
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,960
with a little better shooting against a ridiculously bad defense,

977
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:25,679
I'll take my chances here.

978
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 3: Like I said, UNLV crossed.

979
00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 4: My mind, and I wouldn't talk anybody off UNLV tonight

980
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,119
because of the situation. But I think I'm going to

981
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,880
roll with ten the Quakers Fred McCaffrey team total over

982
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,440
seventy four and a half.

983
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,559
Speaker 1: Braand McCaffrey's my guy, as you guys know, he was

984
00:49:44,679 --> 00:49:48,199
our head coach when I was at Sianna College back

985
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:52,480
in the mid two thousands the best days for Sianna.

986
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,199
I hope we can get back there at some point.

987
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,639
Not quite there yet, but maybe Jerry McNamara will will

988
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,760
lead us there as far as this game is concerned.

989
00:50:00,519 --> 00:50:04,239
You know, something I've liked about Penn recently is, like

990
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,119
what I alluded to this in the other breakdown, I

991
00:50:07,159 --> 00:50:09,760
think they have the probably the most offensive talent in

992
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,480
this league outside of maybe Yale. And Harvard's got some

993
00:50:13,559 --> 00:50:16,920
offensive talent as well, but like Penn, you know, don't

994
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,360
sleep on that trio of like TJ. Power, Ethan Roberts,

995
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,920
Like they've they've got some guys that can score the basketball.

996
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,440
For this for the for where this league is at

997
00:50:28,559 --> 00:50:31,840
right now, like pound for pound they have they have

998
00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:34,719
as good of scorers, like I said, as anyone in

999
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,079
this league, maybe other than than Yale, who's like the

1000
00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:39,960
obvious best team. And then you've got Hinting and some

1001
00:50:40,039 --> 00:50:42,000
guys that can really fill it up. On Harvard and

1002
00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:46,239
of course Ran you know he I mean, you know,

1003
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,280
like he's all offense, like he's all gas, no breaks,

1004
00:50:49,559 --> 00:50:51,920
He's trying to put the ball in the basket. That

1005
00:50:52,599 --> 00:50:56,320
perfect example, they played Cornell ninety one points. They dropped

1006
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:00,960
ninety one, no problem on Cornell ninety one eighty one.

1007
00:51:01,199 --> 00:51:01,760
Speaker 2: They've gone.

1008
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: They they've so they have the ability to throw some

1009
00:51:04,039 --> 00:51:06,039
size in there, which I think is very important in

1010
00:51:06,079 --> 00:51:10,159
this game. Penn has one of the bigger like rosters

1011
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:14,599
of the IVY. And that's the thing. Columbia has the biggest,

1012
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:20,400
right so Colombia. Kevin Hovda is it hoved. I'll butcher

1013
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,400
his name forever. He's the guy that came over from Florida,

1014
00:51:24,519 --> 00:51:26,760
brought a lot of size with him. This Columbia team

1015
00:51:27,119 --> 00:51:30,360
has elite size for the IVY for a low major.

1016
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,559
But what they don't do very well rob is take

1017
00:51:33,559 --> 00:51:37,119
care of the basketball. And this is where this is

1018
00:51:37,159 --> 00:51:40,559
where Penn. They've got some guard quickness. They get up

1019
00:51:40,599 --> 00:51:44,599
and down the floor. I could see this being like

1020
00:51:44,679 --> 00:51:48,000
kind of a nightmare for Columbia given the fact that

1021
00:51:48,039 --> 00:51:51,280
fran mccapery has now had the ability to make adjustments

1022
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:55,519
off that first meeting which occurred two weeks ago. Right

1023
00:51:55,639 --> 00:51:58,519
like Franz the type type of guy they lost that

1024
00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:00,000
game seventy two sixty seven.

1025
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,599
Speaker 2: He's probably going to go higher pressure.

1026
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,159
Speaker 1: He's probably going to try to force turnovers on the bigs,

1027
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:06,880
and I think it creates more of an up and

1028
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:11,679
down game, which absolutely supports the thought that the team

1029
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:12,480
total goes over.

1030
00:52:13,159 --> 00:52:14,119
Speaker 2: I like Penn here.

1031
00:52:14,559 --> 00:52:16,519
Speaker 1: It was right on the number, Like my number came

1032
00:52:16,559 --> 00:52:18,800
out almost identical, like I think it was minus two

1033
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,599
point six. If you force me to lean in this game,

1034
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,400
I think Penn probably finds a way to win. But

1035
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,400
I so I like that you're on the team total

1036
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,920
over because I think there's some correlation there.

1037
00:52:31,079 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 3: Let's good, get it.

1038
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 4: It's a bad it's a good matchup from beyond the

1039
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:36,280
arc for Penn too.

1040
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:36,599
Speaker 3: Adam.

1041
00:52:36,639 --> 00:52:40,119
Speaker 4: They're like eleven in the country three point shooting percentage,

1042
00:52:40,119 --> 00:52:42,679
and Colombia is the worst three point defense in the IVY,

1043
00:52:43,519 --> 00:52:46,280
so they should be able to make some hay here

1044
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,280
at home. I like the way the odds makers gave

1045
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,920
us a number that, you know, is is a pretty

1046
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,679
reasonable position to get ourselves over the tour.

1047
00:52:58,599 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: Billy Humphrey says, hey, he said we talked to him

1048
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,639
off George Washington. That's why I love the show. Makes

1049
00:53:03,639 --> 00:53:07,000
me smarter that that's the best compliment we can get. Obviously,

1050
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,079
you know, obviously we'd you know, love you to go

1051
00:53:10,159 --> 00:53:13,480
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1052
00:53:13,519 --> 00:53:17,440
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1053
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,960
So we appreciate you, you know, supporting the show. The

1054
00:53:21,039 --> 00:53:24,719
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00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:28,840
to support, double the CBB Firepower package myself. Rob, it's

1056
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,639
gonna be a great weekend, will be absolutely loaded. I

1057
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,559
have a I have a second, so I put two

1058
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,960
four percenters out for tonight. I gave you one of

1059
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,199
them with George Washington. I've got another one on there

1060
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,920
that I like quite a bit. We've got seven minutes left.

1061
00:53:44,199 --> 00:53:48,840
I I'm kind of scrolling through the chat. It seems

1062
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,599
like most people want to want to touch on the

1063
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:56,039
undefeated Miami of Ohio Red Hawks Hawks. So let's do it, Rob,

1064
00:53:56,199 --> 00:53:59,800
Miami of Ohio, Ohio. I had to swerve this game.

1065
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,400
I was going to go to this game, and then

1066
00:54:02,679 --> 00:54:06,800
the opportunity to get to Cameron Indoor came up, and

1067
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:12,199
I said, well, you know, Miami of Ohio, Cameron Indoor,

1068
00:54:12,199 --> 00:54:14,679
Maami of Ohio, Cameron. I listen, Millet Hall is gonna

1069
00:54:14,679 --> 00:54:17,519
be rocket tonight. The game sold out. It's on ESPN

1070
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:23,079
National TV. Rob, I don't think this team would be

1071
00:54:23,159 --> 00:54:26,119
undefeated if some of these MAC teams could could could

1072
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,559
step to them. And you know the fact that they

1073
00:54:29,599 --> 00:54:33,039
got by Akron early in the conference schedule, Like I

1074
00:54:33,079 --> 00:54:35,719
truly believe if Akron plays in Miami of Ohio again,

1075
00:54:36,039 --> 00:54:39,559
Ackron's probably winning the game by ten. Like I just

1076
00:54:40,159 --> 00:54:43,400
I just think that it's a really nice story. I

1077
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,679
love it for college basketball. Listen, if for nothing else,

1078
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,760
the fact that Millet Hall in Oxford, Ohio tonight is

1079
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,519
going to have over nine thousand people.

1080
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 2: There is tremendous.

1081
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: I would love to take a position on Ohio, but

1082
00:54:58,079 --> 00:55:00,199
I just don't think they shoot the ball while enough

1083
00:55:00,639 --> 00:55:03,880
to keep pace with Miami of Ohio. They will have

1084
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,360
opportunities to score. They will probably get to the rim.

1085
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,480
I don't think it's crazy to think they can hang

1086
00:55:09,519 --> 00:55:11,719
around within ten. And you've seen some of these other teams.

1087
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:16,519
Buffalo UMass put a scare into Miami of Ohio. I

1088
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,920
tend to think if Ohio's got a chance in this series,

1089
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,440
because again they play in a couple of weeks in Athens.

1090
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 2: I will be there with Brian Power in attendance in

1091
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:26,400
that game.

1092
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,199
Speaker 1: I think Ohio maybe has a better chance at home

1093
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,840
on the road, it's going to be tough, but I

1094
00:55:32,519 --> 00:55:36,159
ever so slightly lean toward Ohio plus the points.

1095
00:55:36,519 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 2: You've been really good with Miami of Ohio totals.

1096
00:55:39,039 --> 00:55:41,079
Speaker 1: Do you have anything for us in the totals department

1097
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:42,840
Miami of Ohio, Ohio tonight.

1098
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, they clipped us that one night on the parlay

1099
00:55:46,079 --> 00:55:48,159
when Peter Souter walked to the free throw.

1100
00:55:48,119 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 2: Eleanor missed a free throw too. Yeah, that was really Yeah.

1101
00:55:50,679 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 3: They from missing free throws down the streets.

1102
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 4: The two guys you want there couldn't get it done.

1103
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,599
But my idea would be Adam, and I think it

1104
00:55:59,639 --> 00:56:01,519
goes a lot with what you were saying about the

1105
00:56:01,559 --> 00:56:04,159
second time around, which is going to come pretty quickly

1106
00:56:05,199 --> 00:56:08,280
at Ohio you. I think for Ohio you you have

1107
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,519
to see this one time first and then be able

1108
00:56:11,559 --> 00:56:13,440
to react to it. And when I say this thing,

1109
00:56:13,519 --> 00:56:16,280
I talk about the Miami offense, the pace they play at,

1110
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,840
the rate they shoot it at. You know, they looked

1111
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,800
like they were stumbling a little bit, and they just

1112
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,519
went to Marshall in that Max Sunbelt Challenge type deal

1113
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,039
and they blew the doors off Marshall in that game.

1114
00:56:29,199 --> 00:56:33,400
Ninety points again, it's interesting their team total is three

1115
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,880
and one to the under in their last four. But

1116
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,559
it's difficult when you're scoring eighty six and eighty five

1117
00:56:39,599 --> 00:56:42,280
and your team total is still under because the odds

1118
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,119
makers setting it up in the eighty seven and a

1119
00:56:44,159 --> 00:56:46,639
half eighty nine and a half range. It's hard to

1120
00:56:46,679 --> 00:56:50,440
get there every single night. But Miami's gonna consistently score.

1121
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:52,760
There's no question they're going to be in the mid

1122
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:57,239
to upper eighties tonight against OHIOU. And what you need

1123
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,760
to do is what Frank Martin and UMass did score

1124
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:05,880
with them Northern Illinois. Somehow, some way, falls got this team.

1125
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,599
But I think that was more of a letdown spot

1126
00:57:09,639 --> 00:57:12,760
for Miami of Ohio in that game. Like I say,

1127
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,800
I'd be more inclined to lean Ohio you when they're home,

1128
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,639
after they've seen this once and they can react to

1129
00:57:19,679 --> 00:57:21,840
it the second time around. But tonight, I don't know

1130
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,760
that I would take my chances with Ohio you, the

1131
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:29,400
team total, the total itself. If I trusted Ohio a

1132
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:33,000
little bit more, because I don't trust the Miami defense

1133
00:57:33,039 --> 00:57:37,039
to stop people, that's for sure, but the opposing offense,

1134
00:57:37,079 --> 00:57:39,920
if if Ohio can get you to I don't know.

1135
00:57:40,119 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go out and.

1136
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,639
Speaker 4: Say, if they can get you to seventy six, then

1137
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,159
you probably get over in this game. It's been bet

1138
00:57:46,239 --> 00:57:47,800
up a little from one sixty two to one to

1139
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,320
sixty three and a half. I'm not gonna say that

1140
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:54,559
I would fight against that, but I wouldn't be on Ohio.

1141
00:57:54,639 --> 00:57:56,880
You in the first time around. Might be their second

1142
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,320
time round. Probably. If you like Ohio, you, you want

1143
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,320
Miamio to smoke him here so that when we get

1144
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,239
to the next game a couple of weeks from now,

1145
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,639
you're getting a little more valued with Ohio you at home.

1146
00:58:09,599 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 2: Tough part is this Miami of Ohio. This year.

1147
00:58:13,079 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: They're first in the country ninety two point seven points

1148
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,440
per game, their first in field goal percentage fifty three

1149
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:24,280
point six percent from the field. Ohio doesn't rebound, they

1150
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:28,239
don't hit outside shots. Ohio three thirty fourth nationally shooting

1151
00:58:28,239 --> 00:58:33,920
the three. Outside of Pablletski, no one can shoot. You know, Halthaway,

1152
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,800
what is it eight and Halthaway. Holloway, He's like, he's

1153
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,039
the kind of guy that like can take guys. You know,

1154
00:58:40,079 --> 00:58:42,920
he's gonna probably win his matchup with whoever he's on.

1155
00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:47,079
But my might like, is it gonna be enough, especially

1156
00:58:47,079 --> 00:58:50,000
when you're probably gonna get out rebounded, right, Like, I

1157
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,519
don't know, I feel I feel like it's gonna be

1158
00:58:51,519 --> 00:58:52,239
an uphill.

1159
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:53,199
Speaker 2: Climb here for Ohio.

1160
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: And then you've got a wonder in front of a

1161
00:58:55,039 --> 00:58:58,360
packed house on national TV. Does Miami Ohio go for

1162
00:58:58,400 --> 00:58:58,920
the juggular?

1163
00:58:59,079 --> 00:58:59,239
Speaker 2: Right?

1164
00:58:59,239 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: Are they gonna go to try to land the knockout punch?

1165
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,280
Are they gonna try to show out on national television?

1166
00:59:04,599 --> 00:59:07,599
I don't know how that works because because on the

1167
00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:10,000
other flip side, you could say, well, all the pressure's

1168
00:59:10,039 --> 00:59:12,480
on them. Ohio is playing with house money. All the

1169
00:59:12,519 --> 00:59:15,000
pressures on Miami o Ohio. Right, they could be a

1170
00:59:15,039 --> 00:59:18,960
little too jazzed up for the game. That's really really

1171
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,559
tough to tell. I don't know really how you quantify that.

1172
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:23,599
Speaker 2: For me.

1173
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: What I can quantify is Ohio just does not to

1174
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,639
shoot the basketball well, and at some point over forty minutes,

1175
00:59:29,679 --> 00:59:31,679
I feel like that's gonna matter. So that's why that

1176
00:59:31,719 --> 00:59:36,239
was a very difficult, difficult game for me to to

1177
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:40,599
sort of make heads or tails up. All right, Rob,

1178
00:59:40,679 --> 00:59:42,760
we have hit the end of the show, Like I said,

1179
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:47,199
check out our package double the Firepower CBB, rob and

1180
00:59:47,239 --> 00:59:49,840
I every play we make all weekend long. I gave

1181
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you the first one I made for Friday to four

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percent play George Mason plus two and a half, and

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there's plenty of two and a half now, so.

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Speaker 2: We'll go with that for the parlay.

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Speaker 1: To four percent play for me George Mason plus two

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and a half will be the first leg of the parlay.

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Second lege ten team total over seventy four and a half.

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I don't know who the mystery guest host is, but

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Robino will be on Last Call tomorrow with Kelly Stewart

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knocking out games for forty five minutes after Gianni leading

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up to tip off tip off of the game. I'lbe

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at Duke Clemson at noon Cameron Indoor Arena. It's actually

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going to be my third time at Cameron Indoor. My

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sister was a student there years ago. I'll see if

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I can dig up some photos of me in the

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student section. They definitely exist. I'll tweet them out. Appreciate

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you guys tuning in on a daily basis. As always,

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the game is live on YouTube and on demand. Have

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a great weekend. Cash your tickets. We will see you

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guys on Monday morning. Last call tomorrow eleven am Eastern.

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Make sure you're tuning in and to have a great night.