1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Disneys Cafe is the place to put us. Smile on 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,559 your face. Judy and the crew will take care of you, 3 00:00:05,679 --> 00:00:09,880 bring your appetite and treat your taste. Buzzfry Disney's Cafe 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:14,480 is always a winning choice. Breakfast, lunch or supper. Dizzne's 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:19,199 Cafe at eight sixty Elm Street in downtown Manchester. Dine in, 6 00:00:19,359 --> 00:00:22,760 takeout or make a reservation. Call six oh three, six 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:27,120 oh six two five three two, Eat, drink and be 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:28,960 happy Dizzne's Cafe. 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:37,439 Speaker 2: You are listening to WMNHLP ninety five point three FM, 10 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,200 broadcasting from the top of one thousand Elm Streets. Our 11 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,200 studios are located at one nineteen Canal Street and licensed 12 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,960 to Manchester Public Television Service in Manchester, New Hampshire. 13 00:00:49,439 --> 00:00:53,719 Speaker 3: Contact us by email at wm NH nine five three 14 00:00:53,799 --> 00:00:59,039 at gmail dot com, or through our website at wmnhradio 15 00:00:59,280 --> 00:00:59,840 dot org. 16 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 4: It's nine o'clock. 17 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,439 Speaker 5: I am the one who does it all. Take the 18 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:35,799 grand and don't take the ball dull men from you. 19 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,120 I'm right all day, most of the night. Listen to me. 20 00:01:42,439 --> 00:01:44,200 I'm always right out. 21 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 6: Take your fans from you. 22 00:01:49,799 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 5: It woo is showing CEO you think like a fan. 23 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,640 The whole crazy. 24 00:01:56,319 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 4: Smoke smells like sid. 25 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 5: He just thinks that all lia miss selfish self ups 26 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:12,719 or selfish, self centered, selfish self ups or selfish sound center. 27 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:26,319 You know, so, I don't can want to think of me. 28 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,000 I'm the best that you will see. I don't need 29 00:02:31,599 --> 00:02:40,879 any funding giving credit, no way, I see everything anyways. 30 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,840 Everyone knows they're not cocky. 31 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,719 Speaker 6: You show what shows little netfuck go godmt. 32 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:56,759 Speaker 5: I'm no radio crazy smoke crying again, he does things 33 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:02,159 that all liar miss selfish self fox or self ash 34 00:03:02,719 --> 00:03:15,960 self censor, selfish self fox or self ast self censors. Well, 35 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:17,840 I can't rap about me. 36 00:03:18,599 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 4: Don't give a crap what you say. 37 00:03:21,439 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 5: Put me to sleep with me or show stop feed 38 00:03:25,199 --> 00:03:26,199 me or cry. 39 00:04:01,479 --> 00:04:10,759 Speaker 6: Selfish selfo sort, selfish self center, selfish self absort, selfish 40 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:20,839 self senator, selfish, selfabsor selfish self senator, selfish south bosor 41 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,879 selfish self centator. 42 00:05:08,319 --> 00:05:09,439 Speaker 1: I guess that's it. 43 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,199 Speaker 4: I'm just scared of being on my. 44 00:05:15,319 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: I can't rest acts that sound when you present you're 45 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,800 sleeping but you're stocking. 46 00:05:21,959 --> 00:05:27,639 Speaker 4: Someone tell me the truth is really I ord know 47 00:05:28,319 --> 00:05:30,120 if I'm playing second best? 48 00:05:30,399 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 7: Is it best day? If I go home. 49 00:05:32,959 --> 00:05:35,959 Speaker 8: Why he can't he be seen if you don't. 50 00:05:35,759 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 7: Even care the head I'm so stuck and I don't way, 51 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,040 there's no one the baby. 52 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 8: I'm just too trying to let you know. 53 00:05:44,519 --> 00:05:48,199 Speaker 7: I want to give you my time, gonna drive you home, 54 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,839 and you need to say now days I Cass, I 55 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:57,560 think they maybe in these days, I'm the best days. 56 00:05:57,399 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 8: I don't have in my. 57 00:06:02,959 --> 00:06:03,639 Speaker 9: Wive. 58 00:06:03,759 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 4: These days are the best days I don't have. 59 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,759 Speaker 7: Give me a reason why I feel so light tonight 60 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,839 cause it scares me, this thing that I might have 61 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,439 read him for nothing at all. 62 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 4: God, it dust on. 63 00:06:25,199 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 8: My shoes, just to prove I can be the man 64 00:06:29,199 --> 00:06:31,079 who's in your parents I don't need. 65 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 7: And I clean my moly dreaming up your lips. 66 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,519 Speaker 8: You know your sins for sadness. 67 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 7: Is a kurd by being in physical Pleaaby, I'm just 68 00:06:41,759 --> 00:06:45,199 too trying to let you know. I want to give 69 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:45,480 you a. 70 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,199 Speaker 8: Lot of mine, So I'm going to drive you home. 71 00:06:49,079 --> 00:06:51,800 I need to say it now because I can't. I 72 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,839 have the baby. 73 00:06:55,199 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 4: These days of the best days, I will only really. 74 00:06:58,839 --> 00:06:59,439 Speaker 8: Scared of me. 75 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 7: Maybe I can be just a little hair strong. I've 76 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:12,000 never had a look best gave me Peason, but these 77 00:07:12,079 --> 00:07:53,000 as the best days. Haven't have that maybe understood it's 78 00:07:53,079 --> 00:07:56,040 hard to let you know. I'm want to give you 79 00:07:56,279 --> 00:07:57,120 on to bite. 80 00:07:57,319 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 8: I'm going to drive you. 81 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 7: I'm you want to say it now because I can't 82 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:09,120 a thing the Baby Days on the Firsday's Albill be 83 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:15,920 scant bear. Maybe I can be just a little ashto 84 00:08:16,879 --> 00:08:21,759 I've never let that's bb a reason to be in 85 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,600 the days and it says I'm the Firsday's album. 86 00:08:25,759 --> 00:08:28,279 Speaker 8: Maybe I'm too excited. 87 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 4: When it can't be one, But So'm gonna time you. 88 00:08:34,039 --> 00:08:36,759 Speaker 8: I need to see it now because I can'st not 89 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:42,440 bigthing mad maybe, but thy days on the Thursdays I 90 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:49,080 will not be scant. Maybe I can be just a 91 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:55,840 little ash I've never had a pass reason the mate 92 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,279 any day. 93 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 4: S the Beasty's album by Honest to. 94 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 8: Tell me that no what A can do a right? 95 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,399 You want to see nose? 96 00:09:10,519 --> 00:09:17,759 Speaker 7: I can't go big? Maybe best days out having the. 97 00:09:22,519 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 8: Baby just stuck. 98 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:35,919 Speaker 5: Reasonlieve you're listening to w U M. 99 00:09:35,919 --> 00:09:36,879 Speaker 10: N H ninety. 100 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 6: Command God, don't get subprime Leader Maxwell coming. 101 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 4: Good morning, everybody, welcome, here we go. It is that 102 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,559 time again. Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are live from 103 00:10:25,639 --> 00:10:30,440 the studios of WMNH ninety five point three FM here 104 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,759 in glorious Manchester, New Hampshire, on Canal Street. Welcome everybody. 105 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:39,960 Today is Saturday, September seven, twenty twenty four. I am 106 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,000 flying solo this morning. Jenny is at home resting up, 107 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,919 but she'll be back next week. And I'll speaking of 108 00:10:47,279 --> 00:10:50,559 next week, well we'll come back to that. But something 109 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,200 pretty cool involving Jenny happening next Saturdayay, so we'll mention 110 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,960 that in a moment, very very proud of her. It 111 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,720 involves her artwork. Spoiler alert. We might have mentioned it 112 00:10:59,799 --> 00:11:02,399 last last week, but it's it's it's official. I dropped 113 00:11:02,399 --> 00:11:04,360 off the painting. Well, I'm giving all these hints, I 114 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,720 might as well say it. So one week from today, 115 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,080 Jenny's art will be showing at the Mosaic Art Collective. 116 00:11:12,519 --> 00:11:17,039 It's already there. I dropped the painting off on Thursday, 117 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,080 and it's actually a personal favorite of mine. But that 118 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,519 will be Let's see, I've got the event pulled up here. 119 00:11:24,639 --> 00:11:26,320 Let's we'll go ahead and talk about this and then 120 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,080 I'll tell you what we have lined up for a 121 00:11:29,159 --> 00:11:32,480 two days show. Where did it go? Where did it go? 122 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,440 I had it pulled up and I think I accidentally 123 00:11:37,519 --> 00:11:41,559 closed that tab. That figures well, anyway, we'll we'll come 124 00:11:41,639 --> 00:11:46,279 back to it. But this, let's see, it's from four 125 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,200 to eight pm on Saturday, September fourteenth at the Mosaic 126 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:56,120 Art Collective. It's actually in the Daily Mirror building right 127 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,919 on Hanover Street. Very easy to find, and it's funny. 128 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,600 There's a a couple of things happening there. Uh next week, 129 00:12:02,919 --> 00:12:05,480 because the other thing that's going on Friday the thirteenth 130 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,159 is John Poussett Dart is going to be playing live 131 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,919 at the Rex Theater and that relates to today's show 132 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:13,919 because he is going to be calling in at ten 133 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,080 am to open the second hour of this week's Matt 134 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,399 Connorton Unleashed to talk about that. So we have John 135 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,480 Bossett Dart coming on in the second hour, and then 136 00:12:22,519 --> 00:12:24,759 in the third hour we have Terry Almquist who will 137 00:12:24,799 --> 00:12:27,919 be with us live in studio from Wellness Hot Yoga, 138 00:12:28,159 --> 00:12:30,799 And I'm very excited to have her on the show 139 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,840 because I've only known her for a short time, but 140 00:12:32,919 --> 00:12:36,360 she's got an amazing backstory, just such a fascinating person. 141 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,080 To speak with, so she'll be on with us too. 142 00:12:39,279 --> 00:12:42,600 But yeah, so we've got plenty to do, plenty to do. 143 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,799 Like I said, I am flying solo today, so I'll 144 00:12:44,799 --> 00:12:46,279 go ahea and give out the studio line if anyone 145 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,320 does want to join. We've got some interesting things to 146 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,320 discuss in the first hour. But the studio line is 147 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,440 opened six oh three two five six seven. Six oh 148 00:12:54,519 --> 00:12:57,519 three two five six seven. Of course you can also 149 00:12:57,799 --> 00:13:00,279 you can always interact into Opine in the Facebook live 150 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,679 chat or or anywhere you know. If you go to 151 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,240 Matt connorton dot com slash live, it gives you all 152 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,320 kinds of options for how you can interact with the 153 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,720 program while we are live, or even when we're not 154 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,639 live if you just want to reach out in contact us. 155 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,120 But the studio line is open six three two five 156 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,600 six seven. Especially by the way, if you have any 157 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,799 questions for John Poussett Dart, who is going to be 158 00:13:21,879 --> 00:13:23,919 joining us at the top of the hour at ten am. 159 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,159 I've always it's funny, so I kind of went down 160 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,919 the rabbit hole last night with his music as I 161 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,879 was preparing for today's show, because I've never been I'd 162 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,240 never really listened to much of him. I'd always been 163 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,440 aware of him. I remember back this goes back quite 164 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:44,120 a ways, but when I was working at Strawberries, for 165 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,519 those of you who remember Strawberries, the music store, I was. 166 00:13:48,799 --> 00:13:51,720 I started, uh, well, for a long time, I bounced around, 167 00:13:51,799 --> 00:13:55,519 but I worked at the location in Well, the first 168 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,120 store that I ever actually managed for the company Wasn't 169 00:13:58,159 --> 00:14:01,799 Conquered New Hampshire on Laet and wrote, And I remember 170 00:14:02,039 --> 00:14:06,399 we always had Possett Dart Band CDs and stock and 171 00:14:06,759 --> 00:14:09,799 people would come in and buy them. But I'd never actually, 172 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,720 you know, because he kind of this is where this area, 173 00:14:12,919 --> 00:14:17,279 you know, sort of the Boston area. I mean, this 174 00:14:17,399 --> 00:14:20,600 is Manchester, but obviously we're you know, we're only forty 175 00:14:20,639 --> 00:14:23,639 five minutes north. You know, this is kind of where 176 00:14:23,679 --> 00:14:28,600 he first became famous. So so he's touring around and 177 00:14:29,399 --> 00:14:31,360 he'll be here, Like I said, he's got a bunch 178 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,600 of tour dates, but he will be here on Friday 179 00:14:33,639 --> 00:14:35,360 the thirteenth, So he's going to join us to talk 180 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,080 about that. But I kind of was exploring his music, 181 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,200 and you know, a couple of the songs from Posset 182 00:14:43,399 --> 00:14:46,720 Dart Band, you know, from I don't know, early seventies, 183 00:14:46,799 --> 00:14:49,440 like seventy three, seventy four around there. I was like, oh, yeah, 184 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,600 I've heard this song. I definitely know this song. But 185 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,440 he also I was playing some of his recent because 186 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,240 he continues to as a solo artist, he continues to 187 00:14:58,279 --> 00:15:01,759 create music, and some of his recent stuff is just 188 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,440 so interesting. We'll talk about it when he calls. I 189 00:15:05,519 --> 00:15:09,080 don't know how much time he has to spend with us, 190 00:15:09,159 --> 00:15:11,919 but I have some questions for him. But it might 191 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,120 be a little bit of a curve because I'm sure 192 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,720 that when he does radio interviews, people want to talk 193 00:15:17,759 --> 00:15:20,159 to him about Poose at Dart Band, where he started, 194 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,840 and you know, of course we'll do that and we'll 195 00:15:22,879 --> 00:15:24,960 talk about the show coming up, but you know, because 196 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:26,879 obviously the purpose is to promote that. But I have 197 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,000 some questions for him too about his more recent material 198 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,240 that I find quite fascinating. He's he's got a great 199 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:38,039 voice and hell of a guitar player, my goodness. So anyway, 200 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:39,720 so that'll be coming up at ten am. And like 201 00:15:39,799 --> 00:15:42,480 I said, third hour, we have Terry Almquist. For the 202 00:15:42,519 --> 00:15:46,720 first hour. We have some music news, music industry news 203 00:15:46,759 --> 00:15:49,039 to discuss. You know, I love this stuff. I'm a 204 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:53,320 music industry nerd, and I do some things in the industry, 205 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,279 and I have for a long time. But we were 206 00:15:56,399 --> 00:16:00,120 talking last week. I think it was last week. Was 207 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,639 it last week or the week before? I have to 208 00:16:01,679 --> 00:16:04,919 be honest with you, It all blurts together, but no, 209 00:16:05,039 --> 00:16:06,600 I think it was last week. We were talking about 210 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:13,200 Oasis and this debacle. We have an update on this well, 211 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,759 and it relates to another issue happening in the music industry. 212 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 11: But so. 213 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 4: Oasis tickets went on sale. It's the first time they're 214 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:27,600 touring in fifteen years. The Gallagher brothers loll. I'm sorry, 215 00:16:27,679 --> 00:16:30,840 not loll Noel and Liam. I do that once in 216 00:16:30,879 --> 00:16:37,440 a while. I create amalgams of words. I combined Noel 217 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,120 and Liam into loll. I'll just call them loll. So 218 00:16:40,399 --> 00:16:44,679 Lowell actually managed to stop arguing enough to say, let's 219 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,279 go make some money. That's how the uh, that's how 220 00:16:48,279 --> 00:16:50,200 people who are cynical about it are talking about it. 221 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:50,399 Speaker 11: Right. 222 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 4: Oh, this is just a money grab Oasis is. They're 223 00:16:53,279 --> 00:16:57,279 coming for our cash. They just want to make some money. Now, 224 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,919 that's not how I think about it necessarily. I mean again, 225 00:17:02,039 --> 00:17:07,079 I do understand that that's very often a purpose of 226 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:12,400 doing this, But but I also am a fan of Oasis. 227 00:17:12,559 --> 00:17:14,839 Although it's funny so back in the day, back in 228 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,960 the nineties when Wonderwall was on the radio every five minutes, 229 00:17:18,039 --> 00:17:21,079 I actually really liked it that Wonderwall. I thought was 230 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,079 such a great song, and I still think it's a 231 00:17:23,079 --> 00:17:25,640 great song. But if I hear it now, I'm like, eh, 232 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,960 I'm over it. I was over it a long time ago. 233 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,000 Acquiesce is my favorite Oasis song, which was actually a 234 00:17:32,079 --> 00:17:37,440 B side. But anyway, I'm I think it's cool. I mean, 235 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,200 I'm not gonna go spend gobs of money. I don't 236 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,480 know if they've even put any US tour dates on sale. 237 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,720 I know they've got a bunch of UK dates, but 238 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,000 you know, I'm not gonna go see them because I 239 00:17:48,039 --> 00:17:51,480 don't want to pay all that money and it's going 240 00:17:51,559 --> 00:17:55,400 to be expensive. It already is expensive because tickets went 241 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,079 on sale in the UK, and that's what set off 242 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:01,920 this whole controversy around the ticket sales themselves. But anyway, 243 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,440 so Oasis, no matter how you feel about them, love them, 244 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,240 hate them, They're kind of polarizing. I've always been a fan, 245 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:13,079 but I also understand and again as someone who's done 246 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:18,319 things in the industry. I have kind of a you know, 247 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,200 I can look at it both as a fan and 248 00:18:23,039 --> 00:18:25,920 as a business. I can see it from both perspectives. 249 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,160 So yeah, maybe it is a money grab. I don't, 250 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,640 you know, but it's a business. You got to make money, right, 251 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,519 you got to make a living. You know, these guys 252 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,079 probably spend a lot. They just seem well, at least 253 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,920 Liam does. Probably spend a lot. Noel always struck me 254 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,319 as the more down to earth of the two, but 255 00:18:44,839 --> 00:18:48,759 I'm sure Liam has quite the lifestyle anyway. But put 256 00:18:48,799 --> 00:18:50,920 all that aside, regardless of how you feel about it. 257 00:18:51,039 --> 00:18:53,200 So we were talking on the show last week about 258 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:59,559 tickets went on sale and the websites were crashing. I 259 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,880 say websites plural because obviously, you know Ticketmaster, which is 260 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,880 owned by Live Nation. They put the tickets on sale, 261 00:19:07,039 --> 00:19:09,519 nobody could get them because the site kept crashing, but 262 00:19:09,599 --> 00:19:13,559 also the secondary sites were crashing, and then Oasis's management 263 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,039 put out a statement saying, actually, don't even buy these 264 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,920 tickets on secondary sites because those will be canceled. Those 265 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,240 are not authorized. And we got into this a little 266 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,480 bit last week Jenny and I talking about how you know, 267 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,119 you've got what a big tour like this goes on sale, 268 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,759 so you've got Ticketmaster, which sells the tickets. But very 269 00:19:34,839 --> 00:19:38,359 often what happens is for I think a lot of 270 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,839 people are probably pretty savvy to this already. But the 271 00:19:42,039 --> 00:19:48,279 reason that something can go on sale and then it 272 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:54,200 sells out like immediately, I'm sure people probably assume, well, 273 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,720 that's because of the Internet. You know, that didn't happen 274 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,839 pre Internet. For those of us who are enough to remember, 275 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:02,920 you know, when you would have to actually go and 276 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,160 stand in line somewhere to buy tickets. But you know, 277 00:20:06,279 --> 00:20:08,440 things would sell out quickly, which is why if it 278 00:20:08,519 --> 00:20:10,240 was a big tour that you really wanted to see, 279 00:20:10,279 --> 00:20:12,400 you'd have to go and stand in line, you know, 280 00:20:12,599 --> 00:20:15,200 like Jenny has told stories about, you know her, I 281 00:20:15,279 --> 00:20:17,640 think her and her mom standing in line for Prince 282 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,119 tickets and like camping out overnight or something, or being 283 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:25,519 there for hours when Prince was touring. But then so 284 00:20:26,519 --> 00:20:29,279 the Internet comes along, for lack of a better way 285 00:20:29,319 --> 00:20:33,880 of putting it, and everything's available online, so things sell 286 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:42,720 out instantly. And yes, because in theory, you know, thousands, tens, 287 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,480 hundreds of thousands, potentially millions of people can go and 288 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,599 try to buy these tickets immediately once they go online 289 00:20:50,599 --> 00:20:54,640 in the digital age, so to speak. But there's another 290 00:20:54,759 --> 00:20:58,160 element to that. Very often these tickets are bought up 291 00:20:58,319 --> 00:21:02,559 by scalpers. And I don't mean when I say scalper, 292 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,640 I don't mean the guy standing out in front of 293 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,960 the venue trying to sell you a ticket to a 294 00:21:07,039 --> 00:21:09,799 sold out show because the show has sold out, but 295 00:21:10,279 --> 00:21:12,599 this random guy has tickets that he's willing to sell 296 00:21:12,599 --> 00:21:18,519 you at a premium cash only. I mean scalpers, these services, 297 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:23,039 these ticketing sites that buy in bulk these tickets and 298 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:29,359 then resell them at a profit. That goes on all 299 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:34,400 the time. There are those who have tried to push 300 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:40,640 back on it, trying to find ways to prevent that 301 00:21:40,799 --> 00:21:44,039 from happening, but it still goes on. And then, of 302 00:21:44,079 --> 00:21:47,359 course you've also got the other element of Ticketmaster itself. 303 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,640 Some people think that, for example, the Live Nation Ticketmaster 304 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,279 merger never should have been approved by the government. That 305 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,880 gets into a whole other thing. So, you know, a 306 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,319 lot of people are dissatisfied with Ticketmaster itself as any 307 00:22:01,839 --> 00:22:04,519 remember back in the day again this was yeah, this 308 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,759 must have been in the nineties or early two thousands 309 00:22:06,839 --> 00:22:09,519 when Pearl Jam was kind of the first to say, hey, 310 00:22:09,559 --> 00:22:11,599 we don't even want to deal with Ticketmaster anymore. We 311 00:22:11,599 --> 00:22:13,079 don't like the way they do business, we don't like 312 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,920 the way the fans are kind of getting the shaft. 313 00:22:16,599 --> 00:22:20,039 And so they started working with smaller you know, in 314 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,519 various markets around the country. They started working with these 315 00:22:22,519 --> 00:22:26,880 smaller market ticketing agencies, which didn't really work out that great, 316 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,799 and in the end pearl Jam had to give in, 317 00:22:29,039 --> 00:22:31,640 had to capitulate and go back to working with Ticketmaster. 318 00:22:31,799 --> 00:22:38,319 It's just the reality of it. So you've got all 319 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,599 of that, and then you've got this new element. And 320 00:22:41,759 --> 00:22:44,359 this we did not talk about last week, but again 321 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:49,119 it is part of this whole story with Oasis and 322 00:22:49,279 --> 00:22:54,079 these tickets is the dynamic pricing. Now, for those of 323 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,000 you who don't know, you may have heard the term, 324 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:58,880 some of you will know, some of you will not 325 00:22:59,039 --> 00:23:05,960 know what this is. But dynamic pricing is this concept where, well, 326 00:23:06,039 --> 00:23:09,880 you know, basic free market economics, right, supply and demand. 327 00:23:10,759 --> 00:23:16,079 When supplies low, demand is high, things cost more money. Well, 328 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,640 this concept has been applied to tickets and Ticketmaster uses it. 329 00:23:20,759 --> 00:23:24,240 Where Okay, so if demand is high for a show 330 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:30,000 and supply is low, only so many tickets available, those 331 00:23:30,039 --> 00:23:35,319 tickets will automatically increase in price. There's even been who 332 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,319 was it. There was a fast food restaurant chain that 333 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,680 tried to do this, and I want to say it 334 00:23:40,799 --> 00:23:45,240 was Wendy's. They either tried it in some of their 335 00:23:45,319 --> 00:23:49,440 locations or they were testing it in maybe one location 336 00:23:49,559 --> 00:23:52,319 and they were thinking about rolling it out nationally or something. 337 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,480 I don't remember all the details, but they tried to 338 00:23:55,559 --> 00:23:59,720 do some sort of dynamic pricing concept where at busy 339 00:23:59,759 --> 00:24:03,400 time of day the food would cost more, but I 340 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,720 think they probably pulled the plug on that pretty quickly. 341 00:24:05,839 --> 00:24:07,759 I think it was Wendy's who tried to do this. 342 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,559 But anyway, so this has been done with Ticketmaster, and 343 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,839 that factors into the Oasis debacle, as it were, because 344 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:22,079 now Ticketmaster is being investigated about the dynamic pricing. Now, 345 00:24:22,319 --> 00:24:26,599 if you're a ticket buyer, you may not like this 346 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:32,039 very much. You might long for the days when tickets 347 00:24:32,079 --> 00:24:36,359 would go on sale and you know what the price 348 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,000 is and you just go and you buy the tickets 349 00:24:39,039 --> 00:24:40,880 at the price that you're expecting them to be because 350 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,039 that's what they're announced at, and that that is over, 351 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,880 you know. I mean, if you're buying tickets to a 352 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,960 smaller sh like, for example, if you're buying tickets to 353 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,960 go see John Posse at Dart at the Rex Theater 354 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,200 on Friday night. I don't think those prices are going 355 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,359 to change, right, you know. But but when your ticketmaster 356 00:24:59,319 --> 00:25:02,079 and you can afford all this technology to control the 357 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,200 prices and everything, you know, you can do whatever you want. 358 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,400 I mean Ticketmaster, it is truly a monopoly. They can 359 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,119 do whatever they want. But that doesn't mean that they 360 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,480 can do whatever they want without some consequences. So let's 361 00:25:13,759 --> 00:25:18,640 look at this again, the newest wrinkle in the What 362 00:25:18,799 --> 00:25:24,119 did I say? I'm calling them loll Loll Gallagher. I 363 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,279 should if you're just joining us, I should clarify it's 364 00:25:26,279 --> 00:25:29,599 an amalgam of Nol and Liam because apparently I have 365 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,960 difficulty say nol and Liam, so it's easier to just 366 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:37,039 say loll. They are almost indistinguishable in terms of I mean, 367 00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:39,440 they don't look exactly alike, but if you listen to 368 00:25:39,519 --> 00:25:42,359 an interview with them. You know what's funny about Oasis 369 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,160 back in the nineties when they first got big, that 370 00:25:45,319 --> 00:25:49,440 first album definitely maybe really blew up. I remember seeing 371 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:55,119 interviews with them on MTV, and MTV would actually they 372 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,839 would actually subtitle the interviews. Obviously the Gallaghers were speaking 373 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,200 English in the interviews, but their accents were such that 374 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:07,039 you almost couldn't understand them, so emptview would actually subtitle 375 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,200 the interviews. It was funny. And I don't know if 376 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,279 they were doing it to be funny or kind of 377 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,039 doing it to be funny, but it was funny. They 378 00:26:16,079 --> 00:26:18,359 can be difficult to understand. By the way, Noel Gallagher 379 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,000 is very funny too. He's got it. I don't think 380 00:26:20,039 --> 00:26:24,160 Liam's particularly funny, but Noel has a very dry sense 381 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,160 of humor that I like anyway. Okay, so here's the 382 00:26:28,279 --> 00:26:34,319 newest wrinkle, and this is from Music Businessworldwide dot Com. 383 00:26:34,799 --> 00:26:41,160 UK competition regulator launches investigation into Ticketmaster over Oasis ticket sale. 384 00:26:42,079 --> 00:26:48,920 So now the government's involved, says here. The UK's Competition 385 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:54,200 and Markets Authority CMA has launched an investigation in the 386 00:26:54,279 --> 00:26:57,720 Live Nation owned ticketing giant Ticketmaster. The reason for the 387 00:26:57,799 --> 00:27:02,279 investigation last Saturday is on sale for Oasis' twenty twenty 388 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,359 five UK Actually, what was the date on this article? 389 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,400 September fifth, Okay, so it is referring to last Saturday. 390 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,759 So it's referring to the on sale that happened one 391 00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:16,440 week ago for Oasis' twenty twenty five UK and Ireland 392 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:23,039 Stadium tour, including quote how so called dynamic pricing may 393 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,519 have been used unquote, the CMA said in a statement 394 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:32,680 on September five. The Competition watchdog says the plans to 395 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:38,480 scrutinize quote excuse me, whether the sale of Oasis tickets 396 00:27:38,519 --> 00:27:44,079 by Ticketmaster may have reached consumer protection law unquote, because again, 397 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,039 like I was saying, not everyone thinks that the dynamic 398 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,599 pricing is right or ethical. And I'm not saying that 399 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,319 I have a problem with it. I'm just saying, you know, well, 400 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,759 apparently it's people in government who are saying, we're not 401 00:27:59,799 --> 00:28:02,839 sure that this is the correct way to be treating consumers. 402 00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:06,039 I'm not making a judgment about it. I'm agnostic on 403 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,599 that part of it. But I think it's interesting that. 404 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,839 You know, what I do think will be really interesting 405 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:19,119 is does this stick around the dynamic pricing concept in 406 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,599 terms of tickets. It's already lasted longer than I thought. 407 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,160 This has been going on a few years now, when 408 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,839 it started. I remember thinking this isn't going to last. 409 00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:32,000 There is going to be so much backlash to this. 410 00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:35,240 People are not going to like it. People are used 411 00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:38,839 to tickets go on sale, They go on sale for 412 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,960 a particular price. If a show isn't selling, rarely will 413 00:28:44,039 --> 00:28:47,319 you even see the price go down, right, You rarely 414 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,160 see that. You very rarely see discounted tickets. In fact, 415 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,359 you're Look, if you're a promoter and you've got a 416 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,359 big show in an arena, say right, and tickets aren't moving, 417 00:28:59,119 --> 00:29:02,519 you'll give away tickets before you'll lower the prices. That's 418 00:29:02,599 --> 00:29:08,400 true if you've got if you've got a show in 419 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,920 a ten thousand seat arena. Again, this is if you're 420 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,079 the promoter putting on the show, not the band's management 421 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,920 has no say in this, or certainly not the record label, nobody, 422 00:29:19,119 --> 00:29:22,720 or even the venue. You're the promoter and you're deciding. 423 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,440 You're making decisions based on how these tickets are moving. 424 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,759 If it's soft, meaning you're not selling enough tickets, you're 425 00:29:29,799 --> 00:29:32,359 not selling as many as you thought you were, what 426 00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:35,960 you'll do is very often is they call it papering 427 00:29:36,039 --> 00:29:40,319 the room, which means because what you don't want at 428 00:29:40,319 --> 00:29:42,680 the end of the day is a half empty arena. 429 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,920 So if you're in a ten thousand seat venue and 430 00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:54,359 you're only on track to sell five thousand tickets, you 431 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,559 don't want that. It just doesn't look good right to 432 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,240 have a ten thousand seed arena that's only half full. 433 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,160 So if you were thinking you're gonna sell eight thousand, right, 434 00:30:05,319 --> 00:30:09,799 so you'd be at eighty percent capacity. Sorry, if I'm 435 00:30:09,799 --> 00:30:12,200 getting two into the weeds, but I know a lot 436 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,279 of people in the industry listen to the show. So 437 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,519 if you're only at you think you're gonna be at 438 00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:20,039 eighty percent capacity, you're gonna sell eight thousand out of 439 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,799 ten thousand seats, and but it's looking like you're only 440 00:30:23,839 --> 00:30:26,599 gonna hit five thousand. You don't want a half empty arena, 441 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,599 So you will give away tickets to that show. It 442 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:35,880 happens all the time. You'll be contacting every radio station 443 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,559 you can find that you think might be interested in 444 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:43,160 doing a ticket giveaway. You'll be giving them out to 445 00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:47,200 businesses and saying here, give these to your employees, or 446 00:30:47,319 --> 00:30:49,160 do some kind of contest, do whatever you want with them. 447 00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:51,079 Just make sure people from your company show up at 448 00:30:51,119 --> 00:30:54,559 the show. You'll do anything that you can to get 449 00:30:54,759 --> 00:30:57,799 more people in the door. And at that point, it's 450 00:30:57,839 --> 00:30:59,799 all about the optics of it. It's all about what 451 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,680 it looks like. Because you don't want to put on 452 00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:06,920 a show in a ten thousand seed arena that's literally 453 00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:10,599 half full and then have that, you know, have people 454 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,519 hear about it, have people seeing on social media tickets 455 00:31:13,559 --> 00:31:16,839 of a half empty arena, just all of that. You 456 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,440 want it to look like everything that you do is successful. 457 00:31:20,359 --> 00:31:23,880 So you're going to paper again it's called paper in 458 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,839 the room. You're going to try to get as many 459 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,799 people in there as you can, and if that means 460 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,720 because you have nothing to lose, right, if you're not 461 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,000 going to sell those tickets, you might as well give 462 00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:36,759 them away because the show's gonna happen no matter what, 463 00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:38,960 and you're gonna have to pay everybody, no matter what. 464 00:31:39,119 --> 00:31:42,680 If you're the promoter, you've got financial obligations tied up 465 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,599 in this. You might take a loss on that show, 466 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,799 but you might as well get as money as many 467 00:31:46,799 --> 00:31:48,400 people in the door as you can, so at least 468 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:57,279 it looks good. So the point being, what you'll rarely see, 469 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,519 I can't say never, but what you'll see is a 470 00:32:01,599 --> 00:32:08,720 promoter say, Okay, these tickets they're not moving at sixty dollars, 471 00:32:09,119 --> 00:32:10,839 so I think we're going to drop the price to 472 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,400 fifty or to forty and see if we can sell 473 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,839 some more. You just don't see that they'd rather paper 474 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,720 the room than lower the price on the tickets. Reason being, 475 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,200 if you lower the price on the tickets, again, not 476 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,279 using Ticketmaster's dynamic pricing, I'm just saying, if you decide, 477 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:32,559 as the promoter, you're going to lower the price, now 478 00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:37,240 you're you're risking well, first of all, you're risking alienating 479 00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:39,640 the people who already bought the tickets at the higher price. 480 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,759 So you don't want them going on social media saying 481 00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:46,200 hey I got ripped off. But although that's probably not 482 00:32:46,319 --> 00:32:49,519 that likely. But what you also don't want to happen 483 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,799 is what if you lower the price but it doesn't 484 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,559 it doesn't juice the sales. Now you're taking an even 485 00:32:56,599 --> 00:33:01,519 bigger loss. You could lower the price, but it doesn't 486 00:33:01,599 --> 00:33:04,400 increase your sales. The same number of people who were 487 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,759 probably going to buy tickets end up buying the tickets 488 00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:10,039 anyway regardless. Right, So they would have bought the tickets 489 00:33:10,079 --> 00:33:12,720 anyway if they were still ten dollars more, twenty dollars more. 490 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,119 So you lower the price, you still only sell five 491 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,720 thousand tickets. You're you've still got a half empty room, 492 00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:21,839 and you've actually made less money. So it's not worth 493 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,079 the risk. So the best thing to do, at least 494 00:33:26,319 --> 00:33:28,640 in my experience and from what I've seen, is in 495 00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:32,200 that situation, you leave the ticket price as it is 496 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,680 and you just hope that you know, you get a 497 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,400 lot of walk up right, you know, people coming showing 498 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,440 up on the day of and and yeah, you try 499 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,079 to paper the room, you try to give out some 500 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:51,000 tickets too, but this dynamic pricing has changed everything. So 501 00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:56,000 again getting back to this article, over ten million fans 502 00:33:56,359 --> 00:33:59,480 from one hundred and fifty eight countries are confirmed to 503 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,880 have qu up on Saturday, August thirty one to buy 504 00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:07,119 tickets to the tour. Yeah so it was yeah, so, 505 00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:09,239 like I said, it was last last weekend that the 506 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:14,400 tickets went on sale. Two Additionally, additional Wembley Stadium shows 507 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:19,840 have been added due to quote unprecedented demand during the sale, 508 00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:22,840 which Oasis said in a press release Saturday, Quote saw 509 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,440 all ticket platforms struggling to cope, resulting in immense frustration 510 00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:31,039 and disappointment for fans who missed out after queuing for 511 00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:34,239 many hours. Unquote. By the way, the same thing happened 512 00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:36,880 in the United States, if you remember with Taylor Swift, 513 00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:41,599 same thing. You know, people were frustrated, they were trying 514 00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:45,280 to get I remember seeing people on social media just 515 00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:47,800 you know, in tears over it. They were so desperately 516 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:53,039 trying to get Taylor Swift tickets and couldn't because you know, 517 00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:57,039 you wait, you log onto the website, you're in the queue, 518 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,719 You're waiting and waiting and waiting, and then eventually something happens. 519 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,079 You know, maybe the site crashes, or you know, there's 520 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,840 something something goes wrong, maybe your computer suddenly wants to update, 521 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,239 it shuts itself down and restarts or whatever it is, right, 522 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,000 you know, after you've already invested hours of your time 523 00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:17,400 and then now you're you're at the back of the line, 524 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,360 or now you log back in and the shows sold out. 525 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:24,800 So you know, so this this is not in and 526 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:31,599 of itself unprecedented, but to put the extent of that 527 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,239 demand into context. Wembley, where Oasis are now set to 528 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,360 play seven of the tour's nineteen dates, as a capacity 529 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,920 of ninety thousand, which means that the band would need 530 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,760 to perform one hundred and eleven dates at the stadium 531 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:53,039 to meet the demand for next year's tour. The following 532 00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:55,960 Wednesday and the same press release announcing the two additional 533 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:02,079 Wembley shows, Oasis publicly distanced themselves from the decisions that 534 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,199 led to the use of Ticketmaster's dynamic pricing tools during 535 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,119 the sale. Yeah, so a lot of this went on. 536 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:16,760 Where now Oasis, the Gallagher brothers, Lowell I'm calling them. 537 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,960 I've melded them together into one person, Lowell Gallagher. It's 538 00:36:22,039 --> 00:36:27,199 just easier economy of language, my friends. So now fans 539 00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:31,280 are pointing at them and going, you guys are bad, 540 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,440 you guys are greedy. All this In reality, it really 541 00:36:35,519 --> 00:36:39,800 doesn't have much to do with them, but they're going 542 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,119 to take the blame. Of course, they're the public faces 543 00:36:42,199 --> 00:36:45,960 of this. I have a hunch that they probably don't 544 00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:53,400 care that much because you know, they they're extremely rich 545 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:58,800 and famous, and you know is you know, it probably 546 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,639 doesn't affect that much. I don't think a mean comment 547 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,679 from a fan is going to hurt the Gallagher brothers. 548 00:37:05,519 --> 00:37:09,039 But but that is, you know, they're they're the face 549 00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:11,559 of it. So it's they're going to take the brunt 550 00:37:11,599 --> 00:37:16,119 of the anger and ire from people, It says here. 551 00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:21,199 Informed sources speaking to MBW, which is Music Business Worldwide, 552 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,039 this is a great website. This week estimated that ten 553 00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:26,639 to fifteen percent of the one point four million tickets 554 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:31,280 sold over the weekend were quote dynamically priced on ticket Master, 555 00:37:31,639 --> 00:37:34,440 meaning the price automatically adjusts based on supply and demand. 556 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,800 The price for these tickets more than doubled from a 557 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,880 face value of around one hundred and fifty pounds I 558 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,719 assume that's pounds to an in demand price tag of 559 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:50,159 around three hundred and fifty five, causing fan outcry on 560 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,920 social media platforms and much discussion in other media outlets, 561 00:37:55,000 --> 00:38:03,599 including MBW on Tuesday, and again, that takes us back 562 00:38:03,639 --> 00:38:05,760 to what I was saying before about how long will 563 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:10,159 this last? People don't like the dynamic pricing, they end 564 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,320 up feeling taken advantage of, and they end up feeling 565 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,800 ripped off. As a free market economist, I'm not an economist. 566 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:23,159 I'm sorry as but as but as a I don't 567 00:38:23,159 --> 00:38:25,119 know why I said economist, but you know, as someone 568 00:38:25,159 --> 00:38:28,360 who believes in free markets, let me put it that way. 569 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,639 I you know, I'm not I'm not really taking a 570 00:38:33,679 --> 00:38:36,239 position one way or the other. It's it's supply and demand. 571 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,519 It's being applied here. It's almost like an auction in 572 00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:43,599 a sense, right, But buying these tickets, I'm not. I'm 573 00:38:43,639 --> 00:38:45,679 not taking a position. I'm gonna remain agnostic on it, 574 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,760 at least for now. But I'm telling you this could 575 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:53,360 be the nail in the coffin of this particular strategy, 576 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:58,159 because people are you know, the last thing you want 577 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,599 is your consumers or your fans to feel that they've 578 00:39:02,639 --> 00:39:06,199 been victimized. You know, I saw one comment somebody directed 579 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,920 at the Gallaghers saying, you know, I wouldn't have thought. 580 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,159 I wouldn't have thought you would be so greedy. You know, 581 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,679 your fan base is, you know, kind of working class people, 582 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,800 and here you are being so greedy. And again it's 583 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:27,079 but it's not it's not them. I'm not saying they're 584 00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:29,800 not greedy. Maybe they are. I don't know. Again, you know, 585 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,480 you get when you get to that level. I mean, 586 00:39:33,519 --> 00:39:36,320 there's been plenty of research and studies done on this. 587 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,159 When you get to a certain level of fame and money, 588 00:39:38,199 --> 00:39:41,440 there is a certain almost as sociopathy that sets in, right, 589 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,480 So you know, I'm not saying they're not terrible people. 590 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,599 They may be, they may not be. I don't know. 591 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,920 I'm a fan of their music, but if I actually 592 00:39:54,039 --> 00:39:56,559 met them, I might be horrified. They say, don't meet 593 00:39:56,559 --> 00:40:00,760 your heroes. I don't know. But it's ultimately not their fault. 594 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,880 But but if there's enough outcry over this, over this 595 00:40:05,039 --> 00:40:08,159 whole dynamic pricing thing, this might be the beginning of 596 00:40:08,199 --> 00:40:13,519 the end of it. So the band's press release said, quote, 597 00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:18,119 it needs to be made clear that Oasis leave decisions 598 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:22,920 on ticketing and pricing entirely to their promoters and management, 599 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,639 and at no time had any awareness at dynamic pricing 600 00:40:27,159 --> 00:40:36,280 was going to be used. Unquote. Is that satisfactory? Probably 601 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,440 from a pr standpoint, Probably not. No one's going to 602 00:40:40,519 --> 00:40:43,599 believe that. No one who's no one who's angry about 603 00:40:43,639 --> 00:40:47,119 this is going to read that statement and say, oh, okay, 604 00:40:48,199 --> 00:40:50,679 it's really got nothing to do with them. I mean, 605 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,280 it's true in a sense, right, but there's a there's 606 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,960 a big hole in this though too. Let me read 607 00:40:57,039 --> 00:40:59,440 part of this again. It is it needs to be 608 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,480 made clear that Oasis leave decisions on ticketing and pricing 609 00:41:02,679 --> 00:41:07,320 entirely to their promoters and management. One little problem with that. 610 00:41:08,679 --> 00:41:12,199 So promoters are people you're in business with, right, the 611 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,960 promoter is the one. Well, the promoter first of all, 612 00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:17,239 takes all the risk. Again, I have experience in this, 613 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,599 so I know how this feels. Not on this level obviously, 614 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,800 but you know the promoters putting on the shows and 615 00:41:25,679 --> 00:41:29,320 handling all of that, so you are somewhat at a 616 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:36,000 promoter's mercy. The problem is the sentence says that they 617 00:41:36,199 --> 00:41:41,760 leave this to their promoters and management, and management is 618 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,960 a problem to me because that's there's a cop out there. 619 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,440 Oh that's our management. Well, here's the thing is, management 620 00:41:49,559 --> 00:41:52,760 works for the band. The band doesn't work for management. 621 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,679 It's not how you know, It's not like in the 622 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,199 corporate world. You know, when if you have a manager, 623 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,119 you work for your manager, right, they're your boss, you know. 624 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,880 In the music industry it's the other way around in 625 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,320 that If if you are an artist and you have 626 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,280 a manager, the manager is someone you hire. They work 627 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,400 for you. You hire them to run your business, the 628 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:20,039 business of your music. So for the band to say, well, 629 00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:22,400 that's not up to us, we leave that to our management. 630 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,039 Well that the management works for you, dude. You know, 631 00:42:26,159 --> 00:42:29,480 you can't really pass the buck. You know, they're your 632 00:42:29,639 --> 00:42:33,119 employee in a sense, not literally an employee. They you know, 633 00:42:33,159 --> 00:42:35,199 they've got contracts and everything. But you know what I'm saying, 634 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,760 you know, So to say it's one thing to say, 635 00:42:38,039 --> 00:42:40,079 I you know, you can kind of let it fly 636 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,599 a little bit and say, well, it's it's not our fault, 637 00:42:43,639 --> 00:42:46,079 it's it's you know, we leave that to the promoters. Well, yeah, 638 00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:49,159 that's what the promoter does, right, that's their function. But 639 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:54,119 to say and management, well, that's your management is they're 640 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:58,199 your management. You You can fire your management if you 641 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,280 want to. You can tell your management don't do it 642 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,360 this way. It's upsetting our fans. You can tell your 643 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,760 management to handle it differently. Okay, So there's more to 644 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:11,920 the statement quote. While prior meetings between promoters, ticket Master, 645 00:43:12,119 --> 00:43:15,320 and the band's management resulted in a positive ticket sales 646 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,599 strategy which would be a fair experience for fans, including 647 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,679 dynamic ticketing to help keep general ticket prices down, as 648 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:30,159 well as reduced touting, the I don't know touting is 649 00:43:30,199 --> 00:43:35,039 that maybe that's a term for that almost sounds like 650 00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:40,000 a might be another term for scalping. In the United States, 651 00:43:40,039 --> 00:43:42,039 we call it scalping. Maybe there they call it touting. 652 00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:44,920 I don't know, sorry, I just I don't know what 653 00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:46,880 that word means in that, but I assume from the 654 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,599 context it might be another term for scalping. The execution 655 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,719 of the plan failed to meet expectations. All parties involved 656 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,559 did their utmost to deliver the best possible fan experience, 657 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,719 but due to the unprecedented demand, this became impossible. 658 00:43:59,719 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 5: To a. 659 00:44:03,519 --> 00:44:07,639 Speaker 4: M I feel like there's a contradiction here. Did anyone 660 00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:15,159 else hear a contradiction? Yeah, there's a there's a pretty 661 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:23,360 latent contradiction self contradiction in this statement that to me 662 00:44:23,559 --> 00:44:29,639 seems glaringly obvious. So let's back up a little bit. 663 00:44:29,679 --> 00:44:32,400 So the statement opens with it needs to be made 664 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,159 clear that Oasis leave decisions on ticketing and pricing entirely 665 00:44:35,199 --> 00:44:38,280 to their promoters and management, and at no time had 666 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,400 any awareness that dynamic pricing was to be used. So 667 00:44:42,559 --> 00:44:46,519 the band had no idea according to that paragraph or 668 00:44:46,599 --> 00:44:50,679 that opening statement, that opening sentence, that of the statement, 669 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:58,559 that dynamic pricing was to be used. But then they say, oh, okay, 670 00:44:58,679 --> 00:45:01,159 I'm sorry, No, I was wrong. I was wrong. I retract, 671 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:06,480 There is no There is no contradiction. I thought there 672 00:45:06,559 --> 00:45:08,880 was a contradiction because it sounded like they're saying that 673 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,800 Oasis had no idea, the band had no idea. And 674 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:18,280 then I see this sentence while while prior meetings between promoter, 675 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,440 Sigmaster and the band's management resulted in a positive ticket strategy, 676 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,000 you know that everyone thought would be fair, and I 677 00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:29,199 thought I took that as everyone was involved in that decision. 678 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,960 But no, that's not correct. The band the band is 679 00:45:34,039 --> 00:45:36,239 not mentioned in that part, so there is no contradiction. 680 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,320 I was wrong about that. I apologize, Okay, all right, well, 681 00:45:40,519 --> 00:45:45,440 so taking that into account, it's probably the best possible 682 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:52,480 statement that you know that it's the best damage control 683 00:45:52,559 --> 00:45:55,000 they could do. Let me put it that way. It's 684 00:45:55,039 --> 00:45:59,280 not going to satisfy people, but it's uh damage control 685 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,480 is about just doing the best you can with a 686 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:08,840 rough situation. The CMA said today that and again that's 687 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,280 the part of the government that does consumer protection in 688 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,480 the UK that it is at the initial stage of 689 00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:19,039 its investigation. It will now engage with Ticketmaster and gather 690 00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:22,559 evidence from various other sources, which quote may include the 691 00:46:22,599 --> 00:46:27,440 band's management and event organizers unquote SJM, Live Nation, MCD 692 00:46:27,679 --> 00:46:31,519 and DF Concerts are promoting the Oasis tour. Ticketmaster was 693 00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:34,480 one of the three sites used, along with Gigs and 694 00:46:34,559 --> 00:46:38,400 Tours and See Tickets. The CMA is stressed in its 695 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,519 statement on Thursday that quote, it should not be assumed 696 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:46,360 that Ticketmaster has broken consumer protection law unquote No, I 697 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,400 mean and from look, I'm not a legal expert of 698 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,559 any kind, and there may be an element to this 699 00:46:51,639 --> 00:46:55,360 that I'm missing, but I don't see any anything that 700 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,079 makes me say, oh, it sounds like, look, we can 701 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,639 talk about this whole dynamic pricing strategy is being kind 702 00:47:02,679 --> 00:47:07,079 of dirty business. Right again, I'm going to remain agnostic 703 00:47:07,159 --> 00:47:10,400 on it for now, but that doesn't mean it's and 704 00:47:10,639 --> 00:47:17,440 that anything's illegal about it yet. Right, there's nothing illegal 705 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,559 about it that I can see. The Competition Regulator added 706 00:47:21,679 --> 00:47:24,800 that it will quote also consider whether it is appropriate 707 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,159 to investigate the conduct of anyone else in relation to 708 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:32,280 the matter unquote. Dynamic ticket pricing sees prices surge in 709 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:37,000 real time as demand rises, similar to airline tickets or Uber. 710 00:47:37,519 --> 00:47:40,800 Live Nation has previously argued that the program addresses the 711 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,440 issue of scalpers buying up tickets at face value and 712 00:47:43,519 --> 00:47:52,719 then selling them at a higher price point. Wait, they 713 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:57,280 have I got to click this link they have. That's 714 00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:09,039 their argument that it reduces scalping. That's why they do it. Uh. 715 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,440 I just clicked and I just looked another article that 716 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,920 might explain it. But well, we might come back to 717 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,039 this later if we have time. 718 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:17,039 Speaker 5: Uh. 719 00:48:17,679 --> 00:48:22,559 Speaker 4: I don't see how that would be the case. But 720 00:48:22,639 --> 00:48:24,920 I'm open to the argument, but I don't see how 721 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,320 how would that How would that prevent scalping? What am 722 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,519 I missing? Maybe I'm missing something again. I'm trying to 723 00:48:32,559 --> 00:48:33,639 be fair, all right. 724 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:34,039 Speaker 11: Uh. 725 00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:36,320 Speaker 4: The CMA said on Thursday, they quote this is not 726 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,559 the first time that the use of dynamic pricing has 727 00:48:38,639 --> 00:48:42,960 raised concerns among fans of live sporting events and music 728 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,320 events unquote. According to the CMA, while the practice is 729 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:51,119 quote not automatically unlawful, it may breach consumer protection or 730 00:48:51,199 --> 00:48:57,119 competition law in certain circumstances unquote. Sarah Cardell, chief executive 731 00:48:57,199 --> 00:48:59,320 of the CMA, said, quote, it's important that fans are 732 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,519 treated fair early when they buy tickets, which is why 733 00:49:02,679 --> 00:49:05,880 we've launched this investigation. It's clear that many people felt 734 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,480 they had a bad experience and we're surprised by the 735 00:49:08,559 --> 00:49:11,159 price of their tickets at checkout. We want to hear 736 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,599 from fans who went through the process and may have 737 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,719 encountered issues, so that we can investigate whether existing consumer 738 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,239 protection law has been breached by the way. That's something 739 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,280 there's more to the statement, but that's something we can 740 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:26,719 all relate to. Right, you go to buy tickets and again, 741 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,639 I you know this doesn't I don't think this really 742 00:49:28,679 --> 00:49:34,280 happens with smaller ticketing agencies or smaller tours. But you 743 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,639 go to buy tickets from Live Nation and you go 744 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,679 to check out, and the ticket price is suddenly much higher, 745 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,840 not not necessarily because of dynamic pricing, but all these 746 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:48,239 all these fees and taxes and everything, and you thought 747 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,320 you were going to spend one hundred dollars on a ticket, 748 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,239 and all of a sudden it's you get to check 749 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:53,840 out and it's one hundred and fifty and you're like, 750 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:58,199 where did this other? I mean no, I'm not even exaggerating, right, 751 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,639 it'll be that much more. It's it's wild and and 752 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:06,280 there's like all these fees and you know there's a yeah, 753 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,840 there's just any any fee you can. You can imagine. 754 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,000 I don't remember too. It's been a while since I've 755 00:50:13,039 --> 00:50:17,079 even bought tickets from Ticketmaster. I don't know. I don't 756 00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:20,119 remember if it even itemizes it for you, doesn't Maybe 757 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,719 if somebody's in the chat room, I should take a 758 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,679 breath and say hello to everybody in the chat room. 759 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,400 But does it even itemize it for you? Or does 760 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,800 it just say taxes and fees and it's this huge 761 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,239 additional number that you weren't expecting, or you were expecting 762 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:40,079 if you buy tickets from Ticketmaster regularly. But Alex Whitey 763 00:50:40,199 --> 00:50:42,079 is in the chat room, one of our friends from 764 00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:44,559 the UK, oh says touting is a term used for 765 00:50:44,639 --> 00:50:53,679 people selling tickets on for higher prices. Okay, Oh. Miriam 766 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,920 Banish also joins us in the Facebook lat chat. Yeah, 767 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:57,239 thank you for that, Alex. 768 00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:57,519 Speaker 2: Uh. 769 00:50:58,519 --> 00:51:01,599 Speaker 4: We don't use that term in the Uh. We don't 770 00:51:01,679 --> 00:51:10,119 use touting. We have a call. It's see who we 771 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:14,159 have here? Hi, welcome to Matt Conderson. At least who's this? 772 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:15,599 Speaker 5: Hey? 773 00:51:15,599 --> 00:51:16,039 Speaker 12: It's true? 774 00:51:16,519 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 4: Hey, Charles Richardson, how are you? 775 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,360 Speaker 12: I've been better, but hanging in there. 776 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,119 Speaker 4: What's what's going on? I should by the way, Charles 777 00:51:25,159 --> 00:51:26,840 I should just tell you upfront, we only have a 778 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,880 few minutes because we have a guest calling in at 779 00:51:30,159 --> 00:51:31,960 ten am. But what's on your life? 780 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 12: I want to try and make it quick. Number one 781 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,400 take a master Live Nation. All these other they're all 782 00:51:38,519 --> 00:51:39,280 scam artists. 783 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:40,360 Speaker 5: Uh. 784 00:51:40,519 --> 00:51:43,079 Speaker 12: And the fact that they're going with this this pricing 785 00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:47,960 technique is really embarrassing. Listen, if I buy a seat 786 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,480 in section one O one in the first ten rows, 787 00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:53,119 it should be one price, the next ten rows of 788 00:51:53,119 --> 00:51:56,480 another price. They should not be any alternative pricing. But 789 00:51:57,039 --> 00:52:00,800 they're scam artists because you got this ticket charge fee, 790 00:52:01,079 --> 00:52:04,079 you got this fee that feet the damn fees costs 791 00:52:04,119 --> 00:52:06,880 more than the damn tickets sometimes, so I think it's 792 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,440 all just a really big joke. 793 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,159 Speaker 4: If you wore well it is it is true. I 794 00:52:11,199 --> 00:52:14,320 mean you get to the uh, you get to the 795 00:52:14,599 --> 00:52:17,480 end of the process and and the the price is 796 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,679 it just all of a sudden, it's yeah. Sometimes the 797 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,400 fees they are almost as much or perhaps even more 798 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,760 uh than than the ticket itself. It's wild, it is. 799 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:28,199 Speaker 5: It is. 800 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,039 Speaker 12: It's embarrassing to buy tickets nowadays because everything's done online 801 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,840 and they're just reaping the benefits the fact that they 802 00:52:35,079 --> 00:52:39,199 do alternate pricing for scalpers. Are you kidding me? Please? 803 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,119 That's such a lame excuse. That's almost like the glub 804 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:43,320 didn't fit your honor. 805 00:52:44,559 --> 00:52:46,559 Speaker 4: Come out of here, all right, bye, Charles, good here 806 00:52:46,599 --> 00:52:48,480 for you, my friend. Take care all right. That was 807 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,599 Charles Richardson, of course, uh from the Charles Richardson Show, 808 00:52:52,599 --> 00:52:53,800 although I think he's taking a little bit of a 809 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,280 break from that right now. But good here from Charles. Yeah, 810 00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:02,840 I mean, I'm not gonna go I relate to his frustration, certainly, 811 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,000 I think most of us probably do. I'm not going 812 00:53:05,079 --> 00:53:06,960 to go so far as to say that it's a scam, 813 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:12,760 because you know, to use that word, I would say 814 00:53:13,199 --> 00:53:17,320 a scam would be in my mind, if you go 815 00:53:17,519 --> 00:53:20,440 to buy the tickets and you after you've checked out, 816 00:53:20,679 --> 00:53:23,199 you end up with a charge on your credit card 817 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,760 or your debit or whatever that's higher than what you 818 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,480 thought it was going to be. You do know what 819 00:53:28,679 --> 00:53:33,480 the final price is before you click that to pay 820 00:53:33,559 --> 00:53:37,840 that and make that purchase. But it is true, so 821 00:53:38,199 --> 00:53:40,760 I would not I would not technically call it a scam. 822 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,639 I would I would disagree with Charles on that, although 823 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,519 I'm certainly sympathetic with the broader point that he was making. 824 00:53:47,039 --> 00:53:49,480 And again, and I think a lot of us can 825 00:53:49,519 --> 00:53:52,280 relate to that frustration, and it is interesting, like you 826 00:53:52,639 --> 00:53:56,599 you really and this absolutely I don't think anyone can 827 00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:01,639 argue with It is definitely designed the unless it's changed. Again, 828 00:54:01,679 --> 00:54:04,039 I haven't bought tickets from Ticketmaster in quite a while, 829 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:08,000 so unless the process has changed, it is designed so 830 00:54:08,199 --> 00:54:13,199 that you don't see that final number until the very end. 831 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,000 So you're going through the entire process and picking your 832 00:54:17,039 --> 00:54:20,960 seats and everything. You're going through that entire process unless 833 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,199 you have bought tickets recently. 834 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 12: Right. 835 00:54:25,079 --> 00:54:26,679 Speaker 4: If it's if you go to a lot of shows, 836 00:54:27,119 --> 00:54:29,119 none of this will surprise you. But if you don't 837 00:54:29,119 --> 00:54:30,679 go to a lot of shows, you're going through that 838 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,960 entire process with one price in your mind. And then 839 00:54:34,039 --> 00:54:37,480 you get to that final screen and that's where it 840 00:54:37,519 --> 00:54:40,960 shows you all these fees and you're like, oh, this 841 00:54:41,079 --> 00:54:47,880 ticket just doubled in price. Let's see. Isaac Banks is 842 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:54,280 also in the chat room. Alex Whiteley says people had 843 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:58,239 to sign into their Ticketmaster wait to be accepted into 844 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,920 a ballot, which took out for some. Then some were 845 00:55:03,039 --> 00:55:05,400 told that they were going to have to pay upwards 846 00:55:05,519 --> 00:55:12,840 of four hundred pounds per ticket. Yeah, I mean again, 847 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,760 I don't know that I would call it a scam 848 00:55:17,079 --> 00:55:22,639 per se, but it certainly is. I think we can 849 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:26,079 all understand why from a just from a consumer standpoint, 850 00:55:26,119 --> 00:55:27,800 you might have a pretty bad taste in your mouth 851 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:33,559 after going through that. Right, All right, here's what we 852 00:55:33,639 --> 00:55:35,760 gotta do, because we are approaching the top of the hour. 853 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:40,000 We're gonna take a quick break and show some love 854 00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:42,840 to our amazing sponsors here at WM and H as 855 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:43,440 we like to do. 856 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 7: And then. 857 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:52,559 Speaker 4: Oh you know what, Oh there it is. Then we 858 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,079 have John Poussett Dart calling in. He's got a big 859 00:55:55,159 --> 00:55:59,000 show coming up at the at the Rex Theater on Friday, 860 00:55:59,159 --> 00:56:02,159 so he's gonna be joining us. 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