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Speaker 5: Today we're going to talk about AI artificial intelligence with
Speaker 5: author Agg Liu, who's got a book written with Ashwari
Speaker 5: How are PhD. The book is called The Handy Artificial
Speaker 5: Intelligence answer Book. It is terrific and I can't wait
Speaker 5: to get into our conversations with Agg because I think
Speaker 5: I'm going to learn a lot and you're going to
Speaker 5: learn a lot, and we're going to have a lot
Speaker 5: of fun here on Guys Guys Radio. So I ask
Speaker 5: yourself what does artificial intelligence mean for work, for society,
Speaker 5: for our lives? What is it capable of right now?
Speaker 5: And what might it be capable of in the future.
Speaker 5: It's popping up everywhere Google Search is consumer customer service calls.
Speaker 5: I just had one the other day where AI handled
Speaker 5: everything perfectly, Netflix, YouTube, TikTok, algorithms, real time traffic updates,
Speaker 5: and routing Siri at Alexa, to name just a few.
Speaker 5: It seems that AI is pervading more, more and more
Speaker 5: of our society and we've got to get a handler
Speaker 5: on it. A lot of people ask, is AI going
Speaker 5: to take my job? Well, I think the key is
Speaker 5: that you've got to learn how to manage AI. It's
Speaker 5: a tool. It's going to take some jobs, replace some jobs,
Speaker 5: and it's going to create other jobs. So you have
Speaker 5: to be on the creative edge when it comes to
Speaker 5: doing things that a computer or algorithms can't do. The creativity,
Speaker 5: the emotional connection with other people, the problem solving, and
Speaker 5: that's how I think people are going to be able
Speaker 5: to continue to grow and get ahead. Our side is
Speaker 5: going to change. It's the same thing when you know,
Speaker 5: the Internet came up, and email came up, and fax
Speaker 5: machines came up, and the telephone came up, and the
Speaker 5: TV came up. When all of these things were unleashed
Speaker 5: on our society, we managed to deal with it and
Speaker 5: we managed to continue growing. And I think that's what's
Speaker 5: going to happen in AI. And today we're going to
Speaker 5: talk about the earliest forms of AI, how it works,
Speaker 5: what some of the ethical questions are, what are some
Speaker 5: of the fears associated with the idea of thinking machines,
Speaker 5: and more with special guests agg Liu right here on
Speaker 5: today's Guys Guys Radio.
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Speaker 5: Okay, Guys Guys Radio. It is the interview portion of
Speaker 5: our show, and today we're going to talk about AI.
Speaker 5: My special guest is agg Liu, author of the Handy
Speaker 5: Artificial Intelligence answer Book, a practical guide designed to help
Speaker 5: everyday people, professionals, entrepreneurs, and curious minds understand one of
Speaker 5: the most transformative technologies of our time, Artificial intelligence. You know,
Speaker 5: AI is no longer something reserved for scientists and tech giants.
Speaker 5: It's already influencing how we work, how we communicate, how
Speaker 5: we create, how we learn, how we shop, invest and
Speaker 5: make decisions. Yet many people remain uncertain about what AI
Speaker 5: actually is, how it works, and how it will affect
Speaker 5: their lives. And believe me, it will. So today we'll
Speaker 5: separate fact from fiction, explore the opportunities and risks of AI,
Speaker 5: and discuss how listeners can use the powerful technology wisely
Speaker 5: and effectively. Welcome to Guys Guys Radio A G. G Liu.
Speaker 6: Hello, Hello, good to be here.
Speaker 5: So I guess we should start at the beginning. You
Speaker 5: wrote this book with your writing.
Speaker 6: Partner, doctor Ashwari Powar.
Speaker 5: Yeah, here's here's the book. I'm in the middle of it,
Speaker 5: so I have a piece of favor there. I'll take
Speaker 5: it out. But it's fantastic. And the first thing I
Speaker 5: wondered when I was reading the book was I wonder
Speaker 5: if AI wrote this book for you.
Speaker 6: No, we did this all all manually, all manually. We
Speaker 6: we we really wanted the goal here to be something
Speaker 6: that would be accessible to people, right. And I think
Speaker 6: in this age of AI, where it's so easy to
Speaker 6: get AI to write something for you, the thing that's
Speaker 6: going to be more important is knowing exactly what to
Speaker 6: write knowing exactly what you can do that the I can't.
Speaker 6: And so when we created this, you know, the publisher
Speaker 6: with the publisher Visible in Press, they came to me
Speaker 6: and they said, hey, we have this great idea, want
Speaker 6: to write this book in this series about AI. And
Speaker 6: I created a draft, worked with doctor Powart to sort
Speaker 6: of turn it into the current format. And yeah, it's
Speaker 6: really meant to be for a general audience. It's meant
Speaker 6: to be for people, you know, like your listeners.
Speaker 5: You know, it's amazing. I've gone through the book. It's
Speaker 5: not one of these books that you have to read
Speaker 5: from page one to the end, but it's just a
Speaker 5: list of questions that are really good and has very clear,
Speaker 5: easy to digest answers. And I think anybody who has
Speaker 5: an interest in AI, and if you don't have an
Speaker 5: interest in AI, you basically don't have an interest in
Speaker 5: being part of the culture going forward. Because this is
Speaker 5: the it's here to stay. And the key is, as
Speaker 5: I tell my thirteen year old son, you know, don't
Speaker 5: worry about it taking your job. Learn how to use
Speaker 5: it because it's going to create so much more in
Speaker 5: terms of jobs. So nothing to be afraid of. But
Speaker 5: a couple of guardrails, of course, but concerns but not fear,
Speaker 5: and let's let's work with it. So for the benefit
Speaker 5: of everybody, because we hear, you know, about computing and Google,
Speaker 5: and then we hear about AI, and I think a
Speaker 5: lot of people are not sure how to make the
Speaker 5: differentiation between what's the difference between like googling something and
Speaker 5: asking a service like CHATGBT, what's the difference between AI
Speaker 5: and data processing computer typical computer stuff.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so AI came out of that data processing idea,
Speaker 6: but it works a little differently. So the AIS that
Speaker 6: we talk about today usually are something called a large
Speaker 6: language model. Large because it's got tons and tons of
Speaker 6: these numbers inside of it that it uses to make
Speaker 6: its processing. And it's a language model because it works
Speaker 6: with human language. So the difference between something like a
Speaker 6: standard program and a large language model is that when
Speaker 6: we write a computer program, even something as complicated as
Speaker 6: say Google Search was before it became AI related, every
Speaker 6: line of code in there was created by someone with
Speaker 6: a specific purpose. So you'd have a whole giant team
Speaker 6: of coders. They would work together to create this gigantic
Speaker 6: algorithm and everything, and they would know how each part works.
Speaker 6: With AI, it's a little bit different. With AI. What
Speaker 6: you do is create a machine that can learn, hence
Speaker 6: the term machine learning, which is often thrown around in
Speaker 6: the same sentences as AI, And basically the way it
Speaker 6: learns it's not quite the same as a human but
Speaker 6: it has all these sort of tweakable numbers in it,
Speaker 6: and you give it tons and tons and tons of examples,
Speaker 6: you know, most of the Internet at this point, and
Speaker 6: it learns how to write human language by looking at
Speaker 6: those examples and trying to predict what's the next word
Speaker 6: in a sentence or a paragraph or something like that.
Speaker 6: And so it doesn't work in a way where we
Speaker 6: know how each line of it works. In fact, there's
Speaker 6: a lot of effort right now to try and understand
Speaker 6: what goes on inside these inside their little programming circuits here.
Speaker 6: So when you ask something like Chad GBT, it's not
Speaker 6: going to be necessarily quite as reliable as something like
Speaker 6: a Google search or quite as organize the same way.
Speaker 6: But it's going to have different strengths. It can do
Speaker 6: some things that are hard to program explicitly, things that
Speaker 6: are hard to explain about, you know, creative making, poetry,
Speaker 6: things like that.
Speaker 5: Fantastic. So what's the biggest mixed misconception and that people
Speaker 5: have about AI right now? The general population?
Speaker 6: Ooh, the general population. I would say a lot of
Speaker 6: people don't know what AI is capable of right now.
Speaker 6: I think a lot of people if they've tried AI,
Speaker 6: they you know, used it when chat GPT first came out,
Speaker 6: and they think, Okay, that's you know, from twenty twenty two.
Speaker 6: That's exactly how it is now. But it's gotten a
Speaker 6: lot better and different in certain ways.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 6: Now AI it can work with text, it can actually
Speaker 6: write things out for you, it can work with images,
Speaker 6: it can work with so many different sorts of things.
Speaker 6: And one of the big problems with AI that's been
Speaker 6: true for a very long time and it's still true,
Speaker 6: is that it's not one hundred percent reliable. You know,
Speaker 6: sometimes it'll make things up. So the companies call this
Speaker 6: the hallucination. I prefer the term confabulation myself. It's just
Speaker 6: basically shamelessly guessing an answer. But what you can do
Speaker 6: is you can ask the AI where it got its
Speaker 6: information from, and it'll be able to send you links
Speaker 6: to other places on the internet. And that means you
Speaker 6: as a person can back up what this AI is saying.
Speaker 6: So again it's about, like what you're saying, how you
Speaker 6: use AI learning, how to use it effectively to help
Speaker 6: you instead of to mislead you.
Speaker 5: It's two thoughts here, agg One is why we question
Speaker 5: why AI seem to have shown up all at once.
Speaker 5: It's been being used, but I think it's been kind
Speaker 5: of unveiled to the general public recently. But oh is
Speaker 5: that correct?
Speaker 6: Yeah, so really it hit the public scene all at once,
Speaker 6: sort of in twenty twenty two with the release of
Speaker 6: chat GBT. The original version basically the methods of computer science,
Speaker 6: the logic behind how we build these systems has existed
Speaker 6: in some form for decades. It sort of became a
Speaker 6: to in research field in the twenty tens or so,
Speaker 6: but it wasn't hooked up to enough computing power to
Speaker 6: actually make something that would be useful for the general
Speaker 6: public or interesting to the general public. It was just,
Speaker 6: you know, a research tool. It could do something like
Speaker 6: play the game of Go, for instance. It was an
Speaker 6: ancient Chinese game that was famously beaten in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 6: They beat the best human experts. So it's it's right
Speaker 6: when that chat GPT moment was the first time that
Speaker 6: these older algorithms were connected to enough computing power to matter.
Speaker 6: And once companies saw how big of a prize that was,
Speaker 6: that's when they started throwing tons and tons and tons
Speaker 6: of their computer power and their money to build new
Speaker 6: computers and everything like that in order to make this
Speaker 6: the behemoth that is today.
Speaker 5: And now we've got talking about behemoth. You have companies
Speaker 5: like Navidia who make the process and video, yeah, the video,
Speaker 5: the processing chips, and then you have all these data
Speaker 5: centers being built and people are like, what's going on here?
Speaker 5: But using AI uses a lot of energy, I guess,
Speaker 5: So could you explain that how that works so people understand.
Speaker 6: Yeah, of course, So this is something we talked about
Speaker 6: in the book. The deal with AI is that it
Speaker 6: uses lots and lots of computing power both to make
Speaker 6: the AI do what you want in the first place.
Speaker 6: So training the AI, that is going through all those
Speaker 6: examples and having it learn the patterns of human language
Speaker 6: and how to answer questions and things like that. And
Speaker 6: when you're actually running an AI, it's a more complicated
Speaker 6: computer operation than something like older Google Search would have been.
Speaker 6: So you actually do need a pretty powerful computer somewhere
Speaker 6: in the world to be running that. And I don't
Speaker 6: want to oversell this. It's still using less energy than say,
Speaker 6: running a lawnmower or something like that. It's not going
Speaker 6: to be anything that's by itself. Each individual AI search
Speaker 6: isn't going to be a big problem. But once you
Speaker 6: have millions or billions of people using this thing, then
Speaker 6: it multiplies and then all of a sudden it's a problem.
Speaker 6: Now the electrical grid has to worry about can it
Speaker 6: power all these data centers and everything else that comes
Speaker 6: along with that.
Speaker 5: Now, as an expert in the area, what do you think,
Speaker 5: what's the answer to that? Because people are concerned, as
Speaker 5: you've seen all these data centers, it's all about surveillance.
Speaker 5: We're going to suck all the power. The grids are
Speaker 5: old that we can't protect them, et cetera. What do
Speaker 5: you see for SEA as a solution to this.
Speaker 6: As a solution to this, I'd say that we've known
Speaker 6: for a very long time that the power grid needs upgrading.
Speaker 6: It's just something that you know, every kind of person
Speaker 6: involved in the actual system says this is something that
Speaker 6: we need to work on, and so this is just
Speaker 6: adding fuel to that fire.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 6: The more these data centers they use power, they use
Speaker 6: power basically twenty four to seven compared to some of
Speaker 6: these other sorts of things. And so I really think
Speaker 6: that part that's going to be making the grid smarter,
Speaker 6: making it have better energy storage so that you can
Speaker 6: take energy that's coming in the daytime or the nighttime
Speaker 6: and smooth it out. That also helps because there's a
Speaker 6: very specific problem where data centers need power that's organized
Speaker 6: very cleanly. So you know that alternating current that's going
Speaker 6: through your wires. If that shape that that current is
Speaker 6: making as a little jagged, then the data center can't
Speaker 6: really use it very well. So there's a specific thing
Speaker 6: they'll do is if that power just loses that quality
Speaker 6: to it, they'll switch over to backup power. And then
Speaker 6: all of a sudden there's a bunch of extra energy
Speaker 6: on the grid, which is almost as big a problem,
Speaker 6: and it ends to be dumped somewhere. So basically all
Speaker 6: the same kinds of things people have been talking about
Speaker 6: for a while, you know, making sure we're having more
Speaker 6: efficient power plants and making sure that we have the
Speaker 6: energy storage. You know, solar is getting very cheap as
Speaker 6: much as it's kind of a meme and so so
Speaker 6: I think that's going to be the solution there. But
Speaker 6: then also there are some more technical ways to try
Speaker 6: and make AI more efficient on the chips that we have,
Speaker 6: which I could go into.
Speaker 5: Also, where do you see in terms of kind of
Speaker 5: the race for AI between the various big powers in
Speaker 5: countries on the Earth. Where do you see the US sitting?
Speaker 5: Are we in the lead? Are we number two? I mean,
Speaker 5: China obviously is highly evolved in the system. How about
Speaker 5: the other countries have they have they way behind? Or
Speaker 5: is it just the two of us or what do
Speaker 5: you see their agg.
Speaker 6: So it's pretty much just the US and China in
Speaker 6: the race at this point. There's a few European ones.
Speaker 6: There's some in the UK is involved in some I
Speaker 6: think there's a mysterl that's in I believe France. But
Speaker 6: really it's the American companies and the Chinese companies that
Speaker 6: are in the lead. But I also want to stress
Speaker 6: it's not just all of America are raising against all
Speaker 6: of China. It's a few American companies. You've got Google,
Speaker 6: You've got open Ai, you've got Anthropic, and they're raising
Speaker 6: each other as well as they're raising the Chinese companies.
Speaker 6: So you've got your q Win, you've got your Bidy
Speaker 6: and Ali Baba, all those guys. So it's not a
Speaker 6: monolithic thing in one or the other, I'd say that,
Speaker 6: But the US teams are, the US companies are in
Speaker 6: the lead right now. You know, the biggest news has
Speaker 6: been coming out of companies like Anthropic and Open Ai,
Speaker 6: especially with Claude Fable that's been in the news lately.
Speaker 6: So there's it's it's not an insurmountable lead. You know,
Speaker 6: there's a chance that depending on what we do, China
Speaker 6: could catch up. And I also want to stress that
Speaker 6: it's it's not a race in the sense that like
Speaker 6: if someone makes some AI system that's much better than
Speaker 6: everyone else's, we want it to be good, yes, but
Speaker 6: we also want it to be safe.
Speaker 5: M Okay, when you say safe, what do you mean.
Speaker 6: Well, there's a lot of dangers that come with AI.
Speaker 6: You know, again, there's a lot of positives, there's also
Speaker 6: some dangers that we have to watch out for. So
Speaker 6: one thing that's recently been in the news is cybersecurity.
Speaker 6: So using the models that are at the cutting edge
Speaker 6: of the AI systems to find exploits in the software
Speaker 6: that runs banks, or that runs important social media sites,
Speaker 6: or anything that has your data in it. And one
Speaker 6: of the issues that people are finding is that these
Speaker 6: ais are so good at finding bugs in this code
Speaker 6: that all of a sudden, the number of bugs that
Speaker 6: are known shoots up. So the responsible thing to do,
Speaker 6: which is thankfully what has been started to set it
Speaker 6: as a trend, is to give these models to the defenders. First,
Speaker 6: give it to the software companies, give it to the
Speaker 6: banks before you release to the general public. That way
Speaker 6: they can patch all the exploits that it defines. So
Speaker 6: cybersecurity is one issue. Another issue people talk about is
Speaker 6: synthetic biology is a little more speculative. But you know,
Speaker 6: maybe AIS could make people's work in biolabs more dangerous
Speaker 6: from people with less skill, could make something like a
Speaker 6: dangerous kind of germ. But then also in principle, if
Speaker 6: an AI gets smart enough, if it really wants something
Speaker 6: that's bad for humans, you know, something like turning the
Speaker 6: whole world into more computers, then we would have a
Speaker 6: problem with.
Speaker 5: That, right of course. Okay, yeah, my special guest on
Speaker 5: Guys Guys Radio Today, agg Liu and his Agg's partner Ashwari.
Speaker 5: How are PhD put together this wonderful book and it's
Speaker 5: called The Handy Artificial Intelligence answer Book. You folks did
Speaker 5: a great job with it, reily fantastic and I'm reading
Speaker 5: it at the same time as my thirteen year old
Speaker 5: son and we just you can just open up a
Speaker 5: question or ask a question, look it up and the
Speaker 5: answer is there. It's just it's really fantastic. And I
Speaker 5: urge everybody to get a copy of this because you
Speaker 5: really want to learn about this. This is going to
Speaker 5: be part of our lives and it's up to us
Speaker 5: how we use it. You mentioned AGG finding little holes
Speaker 5: and things, and I was reading about medicine how artificial
Speaker 5: intelligence can help medicine where maybe they read a scan
Speaker 5: or something and they can pick things out ahead of
Speaker 5: time that traditionally that the physicians may not be able
Speaker 5: to see. Talk to us a little bit about that,
Speaker 5: because that's a really good thing, and is there an
Speaker 5: issue with that that maybe because sometimes AI is wrong.
Speaker 6: So yeah, So I'd say medisine is one of the
Speaker 6: areas people are most optimistic about when it comes to AI.
Speaker 6: This is one of the areas where we think it's
Speaker 6: going to be a great tool. It's already starting to
Speaker 6: be a great tool because is an area where your
Speaker 6: body is so complicated. There's so many little systems. There's
Speaker 6: so much that could be changed by something like a
Speaker 6: medicine or something by a treatment like a surgery or
Speaker 6: something like that. And having a machine like an AI
Speaker 6: that's very good at finding patterns and data that's sort
Speaker 6: of its fundamental job, makes it a lot easier in
Speaker 6: principle at least to diagnose things. Like they could work
Speaker 6: with a radiologist looking at an X ray and see, okay,
Speaker 6: maybe I can flag little points on the X ray
Speaker 6: image that the radiologists might want to look at further.
Speaker 6: Or it could help look at what your specific symptoms are,
Speaker 6: what your specific test results are, and find is there
Speaker 6: a drug out there in the world already that can
Speaker 6: treat your disease maybe better than it would be able
Speaker 6: to treat someone else with a vaguely similar but not
Speaker 6: quite the same disease. Already in clinical trials, you know,
Speaker 6: people are testing medicines that AI has come up with.
Speaker 6: The AI is searched through all the possible goals and
Speaker 6: to see what might actually be helpful to our bodies
Speaker 6: that have hurtful to it.
Speaker 5: At that same on the same note, a g G
Speaker 5: is a AI being used to find holistic cures, if
Speaker 5: you will, for maladies that people have. Because I was
Speaker 5: watching the news this morning and one of the guys,
Speaker 5: some science or you know, medical expert, came on and
Speaker 5: was touting AI developed vaccines. Now, depending on how you
Speaker 5: feel about vaccines, some people yeah, no way and uh
Speaker 5: and now they're going to use this against us, and
Speaker 5: other people like, oh, that's great. What's your take on
Speaker 5: AI being I guess a lot of it depends on
Speaker 5: who's behind challenging AI to come up with stuff, and
Speaker 5: so I guess the question is how's that being done?
Speaker 5: And are they looking for natural stuff as well as
Speaker 5: you know, farmer based solutions When it.
Speaker 6: Comes to of course, of course, you know, I'd say
Speaker 6: there's there's nothing saying AI has to do one exact
Speaker 6: approach to medicine. You know, there's nothing in the systems
Speaker 6: that are saying it has to follow this farming based approach.
Speaker 6: The way you're talking about, you know, people are talking
Speaker 6: about using it to help people's mental health, to help
Speaker 6: people's wellness in their exercise programs or in their general lifestyles,
Speaker 6: or you could even look at it, you know, to
Speaker 6: find remedies in nature that kind of stuff. You know,
Speaker 6: are there plants out there or are their animals or
Speaker 6: other sorts of you know, mushrooms I don't know that
Speaker 6: have have these these useful properties.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 6: And so again, AI is a very good pattern matching tool.
Speaker 6: It can find patterns and data, it can find information
Speaker 6: that you might overlook. And so yeah, I'd say definitely
Speaker 6: there's a great capability to help with with wellness beyond
Speaker 6: just targeted drugs and surgeries and things like that.
Speaker 5: Now, an obvious area where AI can help but also
Speaker 5: possibly replace human jobs is through customer service. I went
Speaker 5: on I had I had a question. I got a
Speaker 5: bill from the DMV and they had this is a
Speaker 5: license fee and this is a registration feem out here
Speaker 5: in California for a least vehicle. So I'm like, well,
Speaker 5: my license is up at the end of the year.
Speaker 5: Is this refer to that or whatever? So I went
Speaker 5: on the A I went onto the website and an
Speaker 5: AI chatbot came up and I actually put in exactly
Speaker 5: what my situation was and they answered it perfectly. It
Speaker 5: was a lot better instead of my usually going like
Speaker 5: representative representative. You know, I got the AI and they
Speaker 5: were they just nailed it, and it took me half
Speaker 5: the time. I didn't have to wait. I you know,
Speaker 5: I'm not super clear all the time, and they understood
Speaker 5: exactly what I wanted and it gave me the correct answer.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I think that's an awesome use kid, and thought
Speaker 6: it worked for you. I'd say that there's there is
Speaker 6: an interesting question there, which is AI is very good,
Speaker 6: say ninety nine percent of the time, and then occasionally
Speaker 6: it'll run across something that it can't generalize its training
Speaker 6: data to to something your new situation as as easily.
Speaker 6: So I think it's very good to maybe have a
Speaker 6: sort of like the first person you interact with or
Speaker 6: person in big air quotes, right, you have that opportunity
Speaker 6: to have the AI talk to you and see if
Speaker 6: it can answer your question quickly, and if maybe the
Speaker 6: AA is not sure what's going on, or you have
Speaker 6: some more additional questions that you're not sure if it's
Speaker 6: answering correctly, then you have the opportunity to speak to
Speaker 6: a person. I think that would be a very good system.
Speaker 6: With the level that AIS are now, maybe in the
Speaker 6: future they'll become, you know, even more reliable and we
Speaker 6: can actually use them one hundred percent of the time.
Speaker 6: But I'm I'm glad that you're talking about, you know,
Speaker 6: using AIS to to talk to people directly, because you know,
Speaker 6: even in customer services one area. Another area is like
Speaker 6: if you imagine in medicine, if you have someone who's
Speaker 6: like a doctorate a rural area and they can have
Speaker 6: the AI check in with patients first and then refer
Speaker 6: to them anything that they need to make decisions about
Speaker 6: with their human judgment and so so really you having
Speaker 6: the AI augment humans and these these interactions with people,
Speaker 6: I think is an interesting and fruitful area.
Speaker 5: So it's another layer that can actually help us.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, yeah, and I think for the moment, and
Speaker 6: again this may change as AI continue to develop. The
Speaker 6: best way for you to be using AI is to
Speaker 6: augment your human judgment, your human decisions, and your human abilities.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is just like one example of it, but
Speaker 6: there's lots of examples all over the place.
Speaker 5: That's fantastic and I think it comes at the right
Speaker 5: time because I don't know if you agree or disagree,
Speaker 5: but a lot of people aren't very good at their
Speaker 5: jobs nowadays, nor do they care that much. And a
Speaker 5: lot of people are real layered at their jobs. So
Speaker 5: this is just another layer that can be helpful and
Speaker 5: actually I think can save time. I think let's talk
Speaker 5: about some of the workplace. There's certain jobs, like you know,
Speaker 5: you go to a law firm and you have all
Speaker 5: these associates and they spend all the time in the
Speaker 5: library and all that and all these hours. That's going
Speaker 5: to change and I don't know if those folks are needed,
Speaker 5: but what is needed in the legal professional least not
Speaker 5: just use this as an example of how AI can
Speaker 5: do certain things and not other things. You're still going
Speaker 5: to have to have a kick ass trial lawyer. And
Speaker 5: you can't put AI right now. You can't put AI
Speaker 5: in a robot and put it in front of a jury.
Speaker 5: You've got to have somebody within charisma who knows how
Speaker 5: to make that emotional connection with a jury in an audience.
Speaker 5: So some people are going to be even higher valued
Speaker 5: and other people maybe their jobs will go away, or
Speaker 5: maybe they'll have to work with AAR or whatever. How
Speaker 5: do you see the is it an industry by industry
Speaker 5: case where the model in terms of how much AI
Speaker 5: and how much human is going to work in some
Speaker 5: instances where do you see more people, more jobs coming
Speaker 5: out of the use of AI. I know I threw
Speaker 5: it a lot at you, but.
Speaker 6: Okay, I'll take it one one step at a time. So, yeah,
Speaker 6: there's a lot of talk about AI and job laws
Speaker 6: and if you can imagine previous ways of automation, something
Speaker 6: like the Industrial Revolution when least first had steam engines
Speaker 6: instead of happening to you know, weave cloth ourselves, it
Speaker 6: really changed the nature of work and there was a
Speaker 6: time period where a lot of people lost their jobs
Speaker 6: before they were able to find new ones and find
Speaker 6: new opportunities in this industrial economy. And so the same
Speaker 6: way right now, we could have that same scenario. Right
Speaker 6: A lot of jobs that currently exist are going to
Speaker 6: be very different or potentially non existent because of the
Speaker 6: way AI is. So, like you said, all those paralegals
Speaker 6: out in the trying to research things in the library
Speaker 6: and so forth, like that, their job is going to
Speaker 6: be different, and maybe maybe there'll be fewer of them
Speaker 6: needed per law firm. But there's a there's a really
Speaker 6: interesting story about ATMs and bank tellers that people like
Speaker 6: to tell, which is that once ATMs were first invented,
Speaker 6: everyone's like, Okay, that's it, We're not going to have
Speaker 6: any bank tellers anymore. But actually, for a couple decades,
Speaker 6: the number of bank tellers actually increased. Really yeah. And
Speaker 6: the weird reason it turns out is that because ATMs
Speaker 6: made it cheaper to operate a bank branch and people
Speaker 6: wanted more bank branches closer to them, all of a sudden,
Speaker 6: there'll be fewer tellers per branch, but now they were
Speaker 6: more branches, so it made.
Speaker 1: Up for that.
Speaker 6: And so there's the same phenomenon might happen with this
Speaker 6: way of automation, with this kind of AI if you
Speaker 6: work in a kind of job that people might want
Speaker 6: a lot more of. So if you are a nurse
Speaker 6: or a physician's assistant, you know, people might if they
Speaker 6: became richer or if they had more free time on
Speaker 6: their hands, but they might want to have more medicine,
Speaker 6: you know, to help them be healthier and live longer
Speaker 6: and so forth, or you know, holistic medicine like you
Speaker 6: said as well, if you're in something like that, then
Speaker 6: maybe this will apply to your job too. Maybe the
Speaker 6: kinds of things you'll doing will change. You won't be
Speaker 6: doing as many other routine stuff that is easy for
Speaker 6: the AI to do, but the remaining parts of the job,
Speaker 6: your judgment, your interaction with people, those kinds of things
Speaker 6: might become even more in demand. So yeah, so there's
Speaker 6: there's those kinds of jobs where they grow an opportunity
Speaker 6: as the AI gets better. And there's also kinds of
Speaker 6: jobs like with physical manual labor, things like being a welder,
Speaker 6: things like being a plumber or an ash fact technician
Speaker 6: where it's very hard to train an AI to do
Speaker 6: that right now because the AIS need lots and lots
Speaker 6: of data and there isn't just lots of data on
Speaker 6: exactly where to put your hands, and there's not the
Speaker 6: robots that can be those hands for the AI.
Speaker 5: But at the same time, you could use let's say
Speaker 5: you're a plumber. Maybe you can't get a robot right
Speaker 5: now to go under the sink and fix a leaky pipe,
Speaker 5: but the plumber could refer to AI to get the
Speaker 5: right answers to what part they might need, what branch
Speaker 5: they might need, something where on the fly, you know,
Speaker 5: they might have to be a lot of trial and
Speaker 5: error and having the AI as a researcher could really
Speaker 5: help them and they could do a better job.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean, even as you know, a writer, I'm a
Speaker 6: little bit of a different job. But I often will
Speaker 6: go to AI not to actually write things for me,
Speaker 6: but to say, hey, can you give me some sources
Speaker 6: I can look at? Can you give me some ways
Speaker 6: I might want to phrase this. I might not pick
Speaker 6: the one that it chooses, but I might use it
Speaker 6: as inspiration. You know, there's a lot of ways right
Speaker 6: now you can use AI to augment your job, and
Speaker 6: I think if you can learn how to do that
Speaker 6: right now, you'll be in a more advantageous place as
Speaker 6: AI continues to develop.
Speaker 5: Absolutely my special guest agg lu right here on Guys
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Speaker 5: Really fantastic and I'm enjoying this conversation, so thank you
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Speaker 5: How did you get tabbed to do this book?
Speaker 6: Well, so I am pretty, you're young.
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Speaker 6: I'm on the younger side. Yeah, I'm in my late twenties. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: Fantastic. Well you stepped up. You've done a very impressive job.
Speaker 5: Thank you. Education. Let's talk about education a little bit.
Speaker 5: My wife spent many years in education at the very
Speaker 5: high levels in New York City, been part of the
Speaker 5: Principles program through Mayor Bloomberg, and also was a kind
Speaker 5: of a coach for teachers in various school systems in
Speaker 5: tough neighborhoods. And she asked me about this, what do
Speaker 5: you see the role of AI in terms of you've
Speaker 5: got on one hand, you've got the role of teachers
Speaker 5: has changed and that they have to have like a
Speaker 5: common standard, just like in medicine, where they have to
Speaker 5: teach a certain way certain things and that's it. And
Speaker 5: how will AI impact that? Is that a good thing
Speaker 5: or not? And then from what I see when I
Speaker 5: was talking to you have, well, students are using AI
Speaker 5: to get to do their tests and the teachers are
Speaker 5: using AI to grade the test and reports. That seems
Speaker 5: like a really fluid situation at GIGI.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's something that's changing very quickly in real time.
Speaker 6: I would say we've comeing across similar problems like this before.
Speaker 6: You know, if you are a math teacher and you've
Speaker 6: you know, been in this for fifty years, you know
Speaker 6: someone who's been it for fifty years or was there
Speaker 6: fifty years ago? You know what calculators first came onto
Speaker 6: the scene. That totally changed the game of math teaching
Speaker 6: all of a sudden. You know, it was useful still
Speaker 6: to teach people how to add some tract multiply, but
Speaker 6: it wasn't the bl and do all of everything anymore.
Speaker 6: All of a sudden you could unlock because these students
Speaker 6: have access to this calculator some new ways of teaching,
Speaker 6: some new topics that they might not be able to
Speaker 6: do or that might not be able to cover in
Speaker 6: as much depth without it. Similarly, we're going to have
Speaker 6: to adapt to AI because it's it's out there in
Speaker 6: the workplace. If you want to teach kids how to
Speaker 6: you know, do their actual job, they're going to be
Speaker 6: able to use AI. It's going to be there and
Speaker 6: accessible to them for you know, ninety nine point nine
Speaker 6: percent of people. So I think that you know, the
Speaker 6: English teachers grading essays, are people grading tests and things
Speaker 6: like that. They need to adapt the same way the
Speaker 6: math teachers did. And maybe we'll have a good way
Speaker 6: at some point of saying, ay, you know, don't use
Speaker 6: AI on this one question, because we're going to be
Speaker 6: watching you in class, and so we want to prove
Speaker 6: that you can do it. But once we know you
Speaker 6: can do it, maybe you're allowed to use the AI
Speaker 6: and sort of critique its answers, you know, say, use
Speaker 6: your own judgment again for determining whether the AI said
Speaker 6: something that's worthwhile or not worthwhile. And it's it's really
Speaker 6: something that's going to take a lot of adaptation, and
Speaker 6: you know, the school system takes us a long time
Speaker 6: to adapt, so it's gonna it's gonna be a little
Speaker 6: bit tough during those those yade as well as happening.
Speaker 6: But if you're as if you're a teacher and you're
Speaker 6: listening to this, I'd say, you know, try and see
Speaker 6: if you can work AI into your classroom and not
Speaker 6: just on a service level, but on a way where
Speaker 6: it's actually contributing to the student's understanding of this new
Speaker 6: tool in their life.
Speaker 5: Great idea in terms in terms of accreditations with AI.
Speaker 5: So everybody needs to learn how to use AI. Just
Speaker 5: had like everybody had to learn how to use the Internet,
Speaker 5: and everybody has to learn an email and all of
Speaker 5: that stuff at the very beginning. So what what would
Speaker 5: be good steps in terms of somebody they want to
Speaker 5: get comfortable with AI. Should they take a coursive course
Speaker 5: or something? Is that necessary? How do you start using
Speaker 5: it to have a skill that you can leverage because
Speaker 5: I got to think that everybody who goes for a
Speaker 5: job nowadays is going to be asked about AI and
Speaker 5: how do you prove you're good at it versus somebody else?
Speaker 5: Do you need it do you need accreditation?
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I don't know if it's going to be,
Speaker 6: you know, a formal coursework accreditation situation. I think there
Speaker 6: that might turn out to be something that people find useful.
Speaker 6: But if you want to get started using AI in
Speaker 6: your job or in your life, you can just go
Speaker 6: online to the AI websites. You know, the big ones.
Speaker 6: Got Claude, You've got Chatchipt, You've got Gemini from Google.
Speaker 6: And if you start interacting with it, and you interact
Speaker 6: with it knowing that it's an imperfect tool, but it's
Speaker 6: still pretty good at a lot of things you can
Speaker 6: learn over time just by by doing basically, and so
Speaker 6: you can have those conversations with AI. You can maybe
Speaker 6: give it a task that's not super important that you
Speaker 6: could maybe redo if you need to, and see what
Speaker 6: it's good at and what it's not good at compared
Speaker 6: to your specific job, to your specific kinds of jobs
Speaker 6: that you are interested in doing and are able to do.
Speaker 6: And and yeah, there's there's a lot you can do
Speaker 6: in terms of just trying the thing and seeing if
Speaker 6: it works. I'm always a fan of hands on learning.
Speaker 6: That's just my style.
Speaker 5: I agree, I agree, Yeah, But if you go ahead.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, of course. But yeah, but I think that
Speaker 6: they're I mean, obviously we've got my book. I'm happy
Speaker 6: for you to read it if you want to learn
Speaker 6: about it there, but there's also online resources and various
Speaker 6: other kinds of guides people have, and I'm not sure
Speaker 6: exactly which ones are the most useful besides you know
Speaker 6: the one that I wrote. I have a little bias there.
Speaker 5: Well, let's talk and you did a great job, so
Speaker 5: highly recommended. Let me hold up the book again for
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Speaker 8: How are yes?
Speaker 6: Am I co author?
Speaker 5: So now there's you mentioned three of the AI big brands.
Speaker 5: If you will, Chat, Yes, quawed, and Google has what's
Speaker 5: Google Gemini?
Speaker 8: Gemini?
Speaker 5: Okay, so what is the for people out there who
Speaker 5: are not sure? I mean, everybody steps in, they tiptoe in,
Speaker 5: and they play around with chat and they do the
Speaker 5: free version. So let's talk about chat first. What's chat
Speaker 5: good at? And is should you go beyond the free version?
Speaker 5: And if so, why would you need to go beyond
Speaker 5: the free version? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Of course.
Speaker 6: So the difference between the free version and the paid
Speaker 6: version is which model you're using and how long it's
Speaker 6: allowed to process for. Basically, so one of the things
Speaker 6: that's been discovered since chat GPT first came onlines you
Speaker 6: know in the past few years is that you can
Speaker 6: have an AI model I think through its actions word
Speaker 6: by words like okay, write down step by step what
Speaker 6: you plan to do, what you're thinking at any given moment,
Speaker 6: And because that basically gives it more time to think,
Speaker 6: it actually does produce a better result in a lot
Speaker 6: of different cases. So if you're using the free version,
Speaker 6: I'm not sure what the details were at any given
Speaker 6: moment because they keep chaining in the pricing system, right.
Speaker 6: But often when you're using the free version, it is
Speaker 6: a limit to how long it can think through that
Speaker 6: thing it's called a chain of thought. I mean there's
Speaker 6: a limit to how it longest chain of thought can be.
Speaker 6: You may be using a model that's older or a
Speaker 6: model that is easier to run on their data center,
Speaker 6: whereas if you're doing the paid version, they'll give you
Speaker 6: access to like a like a beefier one. They'll let
Speaker 6: you have it think for longer. And often that means
Speaker 6: if it's trying to do some analytical tasks, something like
Speaker 6: you know, processing a spreadsheet or something like that. It
Speaker 6: can actually do that better, and you'll maybe it'll design
Speaker 6: its own spreadsheet functions and so forth if it has
Speaker 6: that bigger model, if it has that longer time to think.
Speaker 6: And this really applies to any of the big ones. Son,
Speaker 6: whether you're using chat GBT or Cloud or geminis, it's
Speaker 6: all pretty similar in that vein. I think the reputation
Speaker 6: is that Cloud is better with hard elical tasks, things
Speaker 6: like you know, trying to design your own programmer spreadsheet
Speaker 6: or something like that, and Chat gypt is a little
Speaker 6: bit better with like emotional task or creative tasks. But
Speaker 6: they're all pretty similar in that regard. I'd say which
Speaker 6: one uses a lot and you know to do with
Speaker 6: your personal preference. Just try them all out and see
Speaker 6: which one works and which ones you can afford to
Speaker 6: pay for if you want to.
Speaker 5: So I guess, for instance, I'm working on a book proposal.
Speaker 5: I wanted to do the proposal. I've written the proposal.
Speaker 5: I was thinking maybe I should just shove it into
Speaker 5: chat EBT and see what it comes out back with.
Speaker 5: Maybe they'll have some ideas and I can tweak some things.
Speaker 5: How would how that's just an example of how you know,
Speaker 5: you eiser, let chat to the work, or you do
Speaker 5: the work and let chat take a look at it.
Speaker 5: So if you have let's say you have a document,
Speaker 5: how do you put it in? And how do you
Speaker 5: get what prompts? Because everybody everything, I real it's all
Speaker 5: about all these prompts like read and this and that,
Speaker 5: all these the code words that you're supposed to use
Speaker 5: to get the best information. Back talk to us a
Speaker 5: little bit about you know, both bosth of those things,
Speaker 5: the prompts, and also how do you input something to
Speaker 5: get the best response.
Speaker 6: Okay, so a lot of the websites now, ones like
Speaker 6: Claude is the one I use the most, but also
Speaker 6: chat GPT and I believe alsod Gemini. You can attach
Speaker 6: it as a file the same way you would attach
Speaker 6: it to an email. You could even just copy paste
Speaker 6: the entire thing right into the chat text bus and
Speaker 6: it'll be able to read that. In terms of prompts,
Speaker 6: this is an interesting one. Prompts you want to emphasize
Speaker 6: to the AI. Remember the AI is trying to match patterns.
Speaker 6: It's trying to look at the text. You gave it
Speaker 6: and see what someone answering a question on that text
Speaker 6: with the question that you asked would actually say. And
Speaker 6: so the better question you can ask, the better result
Speaker 6: you're going to get. So if you want to say, hey,
Speaker 6: I just want it, if you just want it to
Speaker 6: check your grammar and your spelling, then just tell it
Speaker 6: that in normal English words, you know, detail, maybe the
Speaker 6: way you'd explain to and of yours.
Speaker 5: Like clean up. They could clean up a document for you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, say please clean up this document.
Speaker 6: Even you can do multiple senses, Please clean up this document.
Speaker 6: I'd like you to check the spelling and the grammar,
Speaker 6: especially in these particular ways. And you can even say
Speaker 6: something like and I want it to sound formal, or
Speaker 6: I want it to sound personal, or I want it
Speaker 6: to sound something like that. And they're actually really good
Speaker 6: at reading these regular English descriptions. So if you don't
Speaker 6: know the magic keywords to make the prompt do what
Speaker 6: you want, the reasonably good thing to do that that
Speaker 6: still works is just describe exactly what it is you
Speaker 6: want in as many sentences as you need, because these
Speaker 6: things can pay attention to, you know, a whole document
Speaker 6: at a time. If you have a paragraph of instructions.
Speaker 6: They have no problem with that.
Speaker 5: How about these codes that I keep reading about and
Speaker 5: I see people pop up on social media, Here's the
Speaker 5: five code you need to know to get the most
Speaker 5: out of JATGBT, And I'm like, although I really need
Speaker 5: to so I have like my bookmarket and then I
Speaker 5: forget about it. But these things important and what are they?
Speaker 6: What's the I haven't found them super important myself. So
Speaker 6: I notice that among people who are heavy users of AI,
Speaker 6: so people who I know who use it the most,
Speaker 6: what they'll often do is give the prompt because so
Speaker 6: when they're asking the question, basically, this is what we
Speaker 6: mean by the prompt, they'll give the AI these questions
Speaker 6: and descriptions about the kinds of formating, and they're like,
Speaker 6: you know, do you want to give me just the
Speaker 6: information and bullet points, or please give me a longer
Speaker 6: paragraph describing this in detail, or please give me sources
Speaker 6: that I can go look at myself. But they'll they'll
Speaker 6: basically have a few of these typed paragraphs already and
Speaker 6: they'll just paste one right in and then edit it
Speaker 6: to be the specific instructions for the specific question. And
Speaker 6: it's not a magic box. It is a tool that
Speaker 6: we don't It's a toil that we don't understand perfectly
Speaker 6: exactly all the details of the inside. But it's a
Speaker 6: tool that we know overall, matches patterns and tries to
Speaker 6: answer questions according to the patterns inside of its head.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 6: So, yeah, you can just talk to it a lot
Speaker 6: like you talked to a person. Talk to someone who
Speaker 6: may not have experience with exactly what you're dealing with,
Speaker 6: or may not know you very well, but you can
Speaker 6: just give them instructions in normal English language and it'll
Speaker 6: follow those reasonably well.
Speaker 5: So I'm sorry. So you said the code words are
Speaker 5: super important or are non important.
Speaker 6: The code words are not very important if you can
Speaker 6: make a good alternative, which is just describing it.
Speaker 5: If you can articulate what you want, just.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you don't need any code words for that. If
Speaker 6: you can articulate what you want, then you're good.
Speaker 5: All right, Wow, you're doing such an amazing job. Agg
Speaker 5: Thank you. Could you just take a few minutes and
Speaker 5: tell everybody out there what they really you're an expert
Speaker 5: in the field. Tell everybody what they need to know
Speaker 5: about AI and what's the best way for them to
Speaker 5: get started.
Speaker 6: All right, So you can get started by talking to it.
Speaker 6: You can go online, you can go to one of
Speaker 6: these things. You can talk to it, and you can
Speaker 6: see what it feels like, see what kinds of things
Speaker 6: it's good at, and what kinds of things it's bad at.
Speaker 6: Over all the things that you need to know. It's
Speaker 6: a pattern recognition machine. It matches language, and it's very
Speaker 6: very good at matching language, which is why it sounds
Speaker 6: so coherent, why it's very good at answering people's questions.
Speaker 6: It's getting better over time. So if you tried it
Speaker 6: back when chat GPT first came out in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 6: you're going to have a different experience with it now,
Speaker 6: and it's going to be even smarter in the future.
Speaker 6: You know, this is as dumb as it will ever be,
Speaker 6: as the saying that it goes. And also it's something
Speaker 6: that we need to make sure is safe going forward,
Speaker 6: both in terms of people misusing it to cause trouble,
Speaker 6: whether that's with cyber attacks or whether that's with bio
Speaker 6: areas or anything like that, or in principle, if the
Speaker 6: AI gets out of our control, you know, if it
Speaker 6: starts going maybe exactly like something like Terminator, but it's
Speaker 6: something that is on people's minds. There are people who
Speaker 6: care about this kind of safety and the people who
Speaker 6: are working on it.
Speaker 5: Now. If you sign up for it, like I signed
Speaker 5: up for the free version of Chat a little while ago,
Speaker 5: does it automatically upgrade to the newer versions? Or do
Speaker 5: I have to upgrade on my own? Do I have
Speaker 5: to anything?
Speaker 6: You don't really have to do very much. It'll it'll
Speaker 6: automatically get to the new versions on its own. If
Speaker 6: you want an even newer version than the free version
Speaker 6: can revide, you can subscribe to the paid version. Obviously
Speaker 6: you aren't powerful itself, but yeah, so it's it's it's
Speaker 6: like Google. You know, if Google makes an update to itself,
Speaker 6: you just still go to Google dot com and type
Speaker 6: in your search. It'll do the same thing.
Speaker 5: There is there any concern last question with your personal
Speaker 5: information and some of the things you're asking maybe yes,
Speaker 5: a legal situation. You're asking some questions about how to
Speaker 5: handle a specific situation or case, and you don't want
Speaker 5: them because if somebody's holding onto this information, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, someone is holding onto this information, So especially if
Speaker 6: you're using the free version, one of the ways the
Speaker 6: companies sort of help pay for that is they'll take
Speaker 6: your chance and they will use that training data as
Speaker 6: as training data for the next version. So there have
Speaker 6: been a couple of high profile cases where some companies
Speaker 6: someone isn't using it correctly and they don't understand that
Speaker 6: your day that isn't private by the time you put
Speaker 6: it in there, and you know there's at least something important,
Speaker 6: and that's always always a danger. So if you're really
Speaker 6: worried about that, you can look into services where you
Speaker 6: can run it, you know, your own version of chat
Speaker 6: EPT that doesn't go to the training data that usually
Speaker 6: costs money. Or you can be careful with the kinds
Speaker 6: of questions.
Speaker 8: That you ask it.
Speaker 6: You know, give it, don't give all the specific details
Speaker 6: that would be privacy violating.
Speaker 8: Got it?
Speaker 5: The power problems an impact of artificial intelligence my special
Speaker 5: guest on Guys Guys Radio agg LU you did a
Speaker 5: great job. I hope you'll come back list. I just
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Speaker 6: All right. So this book, the Handy Artificial Intelligence answer
Speaker 6: Book from Visible Ink Press. It's available anywhere you get
Speaker 6: your books, you know, whether that's online or a physical store.
Speaker 6: We really appreciate it. If you do order it in
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Speaker 5: Fantastic, Well, great job, thanks so much. I hope you'll
Speaker 5: come back and best of luck with the book and
Speaker 5: all the work you're doing because you're terrific.
Speaker 6: Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: It's Guys Guy Radio.
Speaker 8: All right.
Speaker 5: A fascinating conversation and we only were at the kind
Speaker 5: of the tip of the iceberg about artificial intelligence with
Speaker 5: Agglu who did a I think a masterful job and
Speaker 5: putting this book together, and also it's a great reference
Speaker 5: book and also just giving us a great overview on AI,
Speaker 5: how it's different than traditional computers and coding and databases
Speaker 5: and what we need to be aware of and how
Speaker 5: we need to learn how to use AI as the
Speaker 5: tool that's going to become a part of our lives
Speaker 5: for the rest of our lives. So it's a good
Speaker 5: time to kind of educate yourself. So we so talked about,
Speaker 5: you know, how the computers and AI are different. Why
Speaker 5: is data considered more important than algorithms in AI? Some
Speaker 5: of the things that AI will be able to do
Speaker 5: for us, and some of the things where it won't
Speaker 5: be able to replace the human element, and some areas
Speaker 5: where it can. So, as we mentioned earlier, AI is
Speaker 5: a tool, so it's going to replace some services, but
Speaker 5: it's still going to open up more opportunities in terms
Speaker 5: of development and creative solutions, creation, et cetera. AI is
Speaker 5: not the answer to everything, but it's a useful tool
Speaker 5: and can really help you get ahead. We talked about
Speaker 5: a little bit about chat, GBT and Claude and the
Speaker 5: Google service what's the name of it here, But there's
Speaker 5: a lot there's a lot of options that you can
Speaker 5: look at when you're looking at AI, and there's courses
Speaker 5: you can I think Kusera has a course on just
Speaker 5: everything about artificial intelligence, but also you could start with
Speaker 5: this book which is fantastic. It's over four hundred pages
Speaker 5: long and it's just strictly questions. For instance, I just
Speaker 5: flipped open to a page, how is AI helping older
Speaker 5: adults with medication management? Or here's another one, how does
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Speaker 5: I mean, it's got the chapters on everything. Any question
Speaker 5: you could possibly dream of is addressed in this book,
Speaker 5: as well as an overview and suggestions who are where
Speaker 5: and where and what you resources to use if you
Speaker 5: want to learn more about AI and use it to
Speaker 5: help you in your career, because, as we discussed, you're
Speaker 5: going to have to know how to use AI to
Speaker 5: get ahead in this world going forward. It's just it's something.
Speaker 5: It's like the Internet. It ain't going away, folks, So
Speaker 5: study up and have fun with it. It's a great
Speaker 5: tool and you can have a lot of fun with AI.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you for listening to Guys Guys Radio.
Speaker 5: We'll be back next week with a brand new episode.
Speaker 5: And until then, like I always say, Guys Guys finish.
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Speaker 9: Millions across the eastern US are facing extreme heat. Heat
Speaker 9: wave continues ahead of the fourth of July weekend. The
Speaker 9: most extreme temperatures so far farm in the Great Lakes region,
Speaker 9: parts of Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan, and Illinois. Because of the
Speaker 9: heat wave. Of the Trump administrations issuing emergency orders for
Speaker 9: a mid Atlantic power grid. The Energy Department aims to
Speaker 9: maximum output. Energy Secretary Chris Wrights issued orders to dispatch
Speaker 9: more power generation from several fossil fuel plants during periods
Speaker 9: of high demand. Emergency warnings are being issued by the
Speaker 9: Governor of New Jersey, Mikey Cheryl.
Speaker 10: Governor Cheryl says the heat is not just uncomfortable, but
Speaker 10: severely dangerous.
Speaker 11: It's the hottest stretch we've seen in over fourteen years,
Speaker 11: and it's the number one extreme heaps the number one
Speaker 11: weather related killer in America, more than hurricanes, more than floods,
Speaker 11: more than extreme cold combined.
Speaker 10: Cheryl also said the state is working with local towns
Speaker 10: and counties to coordinate cooling centers across New Jersey. I'm
Speaker 10: Lizzie Redibali.
Speaker 9: Tonight, the US begins the knockout stage of the World Cup,
Speaker 9: taking on Bosnia Herzegovina in Santa Clara, California. Earlier today,
Speaker 9: England defeated the Democratic Republic of the Congo in Atlanta
Speaker 9: with two goals from star Harry Kane, and now Belgium
Speaker 9: and Senegal are facing off in Seattle. President Trump is
Speaker 9: on his way back to the White House after spending
Speaker 9: the day in North Dakota, entering a figure he says
Speaker 9: embody the heart and soul of America in the city
Speaker 9: of Medora. Trump was there for the dedication of the
Speaker 9: Theodore Roosevelt Presidential Library in Venezuela. Search and rescue teams
Speaker 9: are still coming through the rubble after last week's earthquakes
Speaker 9: killed nearly two thousand people and injured more than ten thousand.
Speaker 9: The quakes toppled entire condominiums in the heavy populated northern
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Speaker 9: risen to more than nineteen hundred. The UN is seeking
Speaker 9: about fifteen million dollars to set up temporary shelter for
Speaker 9: about thirty thousand people left homeless.
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Speaker 9: The CDC says it's now trying to find the source
Speaker 9: of a parasitic illness linked to what they call explosive
Speaker 9: diarrhea across several states. The agency says at least one
Speaker 9: hundred and forty five cases of cyclosporiasis, a type of
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Speaker 9: Chairman of the Federal Reserve, Kevin worsh is saying that
Speaker 9: inflation risks have declined over.
Speaker 8: The past few weeks. More from Matt Mattinson.
Speaker 13: This is due to energy prices dropping following the US
Speaker 13: and Iran signing a memorandum of understanding to end the
Speaker 13: ongoing war last month. According to Walsh, the Central Bank
Speaker 13: still has more work to do, but it'll stay independent
Speaker 13: regardless of what President Trump wants. He made the comments
Speaker 13: while speaking at a gathering of central bankers in CenTra, Portugal.
Speaker 13: The Fed chairman also added the Reserve is monitoring the
Speaker 13: AI industry and predicts that it'll create jobs due to
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Speaker 9: Thanks to high summer heat this year, the sweet corn
Speaker 9: season could arrive a bit ahead of its usual mid
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Speaker 14: The fourth Good Iowa knows the best sweetcorn comes from
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Speaker 14: topping the list, it was states from New England, Ioland's
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Speaker 9: A couple known for climbing skyscrapers is now in custody
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Speaker 9: in Manhattan and getting engaged. Reports say police climbed up
Speaker 9: the spire to meet the couple and took them into custody.
Speaker 9: As they made their way down, the man paused to
Speaker 9: get down on one knee and proposed to the woman,
Speaker 9: who appears to be Angela Nicolau, who has one point
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Speaker 8: Org, NBC News Radio. I'm Scott Carr.
Speaker 9: Millions across the eastern US are facing extreme heat. Heat
Speaker 9: wave continues ahead of the fourth of July weekend, the
Speaker 9: most extreme temperatures so far farm in the Great Lakes Region,
Speaker 9: parts of Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan, and Illinois. Because of the
Speaker 9: heat wave of the Trump administrations issuing emergency orders for
Speaker 9: a mid Atlantic power grid. The Energy Department aims to
Speaker 9: maximize output. Energy Secretary Chris Wrights issued orders to dispatch
Speaker 9: more power generation from several fossil fuel plants during periods
Speaker 9: of high demand. Emergency warnings are being issued by the
Speaker 9: Governor of New Jersey, Mikey Cheryl.
Speaker 10: Governor Cheryl says the heat is not just uncomfortable, but
Speaker 10: severely dangerous.
Speaker 11: It's the hottest stretch we've seen in over fourteen years,
Speaker 11: and it's the number one extreme heaps, the number one
Speaker 11: weather related killer in America more than hurricanes, more than floods,
Speaker 11: more than extreme cold combined.
Speaker 10: Cheryl also said the state is working with local towns
Speaker 10: and counties to coordinate cooling centers across New Jersey. I'm
Speaker 10: Lizzie Radibali.
Speaker 9: Tonight, the US begins the knockout stage of the World Cup,
Speaker 9: taking on Bosnia Herzegovina in Santa Clara, California. Earlier today,
Speaker 9: England defeated the Democratic Republic of the Congo in Atlanta
Speaker 9: with two goals from Starr Harry Kane, and now Belgium
Speaker 9: and Senegal are facing off in Seattle. President Trump is
Speaker 9: on his way back to the White House after spending
Speaker 9: the day in North Dakota honoring a figure he says
Speaker 9: embodied the heart and soul of America in the city
Speaker 9: of Medora. Trump was there for the dedication of the
Speaker 9: Theodore Roosevelt Presidential Library. In Venezuela, search and rescue teams
Speaker 9: are still combing through the rubble after last week's earthquakes
Speaker 9: killed nearly two thousand people and injured more than ten thousand.
Speaker 9: The quakes toppled entire condominiums in the heavy populated northern
Speaker 9: part of the country. Official say the death tolls risen
Speaker 9: to more than nineteen hundred. The UN is seeking about
Speaker 9: fifteen million dollars to set up temporary shelter for about
Speaker 9: thirty thousand people left homeless.
Speaker 8: Scott car NBC News Radio.
Speaker 12: Located in the heart of San Bernardino, California, the Teamsters
Speaker 12: Local nineteen thirty two Training Center is designed to train
Speaker 12: workers for high demand, good paying jobs and various industries
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