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<v Speaker 1>This night side with Dan Ray on WBZ Constance new video.

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<v Speaker 2>Just following up on the story that we're dealing with.

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<v Speaker 2>We intended to do a very different show tonight, but

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<v Speaker 2>unfortunately the events in New Orleans have kind of overtaken us,

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<v Speaker 2>and we are talking about the terror attack that took

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<v Speaker 2>place at about three point fifteen local time in New

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<v Speaker 2>Orleans this morning while most of us were asleep. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure by this point all of you have begun to

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<v Speaker 2>get onto the story. But now I'm looking at some

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<v Speaker 2>of the New York papers, specifically the New York Post.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, they show the house where this guy

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<v Speaker 2>lived in Houston, and apparently he was living in a

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<v Speaker 2>trailer park. He was in big trouble financially. He had

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<v Speaker 2>started some sort of a real estate company in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one, which had gone belly up, been through a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of divorces. According to the Post, individual who we

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<v Speaker 2>have now it's we have come to know him by

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<v Speaker 2>the name samshud Din Jabbar Us that hasen served in

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<v Speaker 2>the US military. A lot of pictures of him in

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<v Speaker 2>US Military of Army uniforms. He he apparently lived in

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<v Speaker 2>a squalid area of Houston in an area where I

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<v Speaker 2>guess next to his home or sheep and goats. It

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<v Speaker 2>did look very upscale, So this guy was obviously down

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<v Speaker 2>and out. He made some videos, according to the New

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<v Speaker 2>York Post, confessing to a plan. He did have an

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<v Speaker 2>ISIS flag off the back of the truck as it

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<v Speaker 2>plowed down Bourbon Street. Clearly he had been radicalized.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>The FBI now, according to the Post, is ruling out

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<v Speaker 2>the involvement of three men in one woman who allegedly

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<v Speaker 2>have been seen perhaps depositing some form of IEDs planting

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<v Speaker 2>IEDs around New Orleans near the terror attack. As I

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned earlier, that could be obviously a set of circumstances

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<v Speaker 2>where somebody, again at three point thirty of the morning,

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<v Speaker 2>is a little overtaken by the revelie of the evening

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<v Speaker 2>and they decide to leave a package or something, and

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<v Speaker 2>obviously you always assume the worst. But the FBI now

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<v Speaker 2>is ruling out the involvement of them, although they are

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<v Speaker 2>still saying that maybe others involved. So there is a

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<v Speaker 2>lot to cover. If you'd like to join the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a really interesting caller last hour with John

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<v Speaker 2>from Acton, who talked about this rental car site, which

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<v Speaker 2>I was unaware of. I'm sure some of you are

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<v Speaker 2>unaware of it. I'm sure many of you are aware

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<v Speaker 2>of it. It's called Toro. And apparently this truck that

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<v Speaker 2>was used as the murder weapon, and apparently, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>this ISIS flag was flying off the back of his truck.

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<v Speaker 2>And the first video that I saw, the first photograph,

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<v Speaker 2>it was covered by a jacket. So I'm assuming that

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<v Speaker 2>some well meaning civilians saw the ISIS flag after the

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<v Speaker 2>shootout and he was dead in the ground, they probably

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<v Speaker 2>covered up that flag. But yeah, he had the audacity

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<v Speaker 2>to fly the ISIS flag. And then the question is

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<v Speaker 2>how many others are in our midst This is an

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<v Speaker 2>American citizen, he says, an American as you and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Shamshood Din Jabbar served a dozen years in the US military,

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<v Speaker 2>deployed to Afghanistan. Let's get back to the calls. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>continue for this for a little while. We had planned

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<v Speaker 2>a very different program tonight, and for those of you

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<v Speaker 2>who are expecting to talk about New Year's resolutions, we

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<v Speaker 2>may get to that. We may get to thoughts about

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<v Speaker 2>Jimmy Carter, the oldest living president, who passed earlier this

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<v Speaker 2>week at the age of one hundred. And also this

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<v Speaker 2>horrific malaise that I've been fighting speaking Jimmy Carter, upper

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<v Speaker 2>respiratory illness, bronchitis. Let's get back to Patrick in Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>d C. Patrick, thanks for holding through the news. Go

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<v Speaker 2>right ahead, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>So here's here's something else that's also interesting because we

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<v Speaker 4>have we can think here on your radio program. That's

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<v Speaker 4>one of the great things about myself.

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<v Speaker 2>It is allowed, Patrick, it is allowed to actually encourage

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<v Speaker 2>Go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>One hundred and eighty miles down south of Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 4>The FBI on December seventeenth raided a house where they

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<v Speaker 4>had one hundred and fifty bombs and all sorts of ammunitions.

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<v Speaker 4>The FBI is saying this is the largest weapons catch

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<v Speaker 4>in their history that they have won.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, that is a story that I did not see.

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<v Speaker 2>Did it get much national publicity?

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<v Speaker 5>Pat BBC.

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<v Speaker 4>December seventeenth, It was the store, was the arrest, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's a day old.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a day old, right, No, I didn't see this. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>I did not watch every newscast during my time off.

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<v Speaker 2>But did this if it is the largest cash of

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<v Speaker 2>weapons ever discovered by the FBI. Did it get not

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<v Speaker 2>get a little publicity or national publicity? National? I never

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<v Speaker 2>saw that story.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's here's the quote, preliminary assessed as the largest seizure

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<v Speaker 4>by a number of finished explosive devices in FBI history.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I got that, But my question is maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>kind of answer it. I don't remember recall seeing that.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched news periodically. I didn't watch it as I

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<v Speaker 2>watch it when I'm working. To be honest with.

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<v Speaker 4>You, Okay, well, there's something that you know, it's big

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<v Speaker 4>and not everybody carries everything with the BBC, you know

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<v Speaker 4>runs so.

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<v Speaker 2>So what you're saying it was on the BBC, right,

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<v Speaker 2>it was on the British broad BBC, But I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>I got to be honest with you. Maybe some others

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<v Speaker 2>have seen that. Did they have any sort of idea

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<v Speaker 2>as to who these people were who were collecting such

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<v Speaker 2>such an arsenal.

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<v Speaker 4>A man and his wife who lived there with his

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<v Speaker 4>two children.

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<v Speaker 2>And here you go, right, a man and his wife

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<v Speaker 2>who just liked to collect weaponry, but did not were

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<v Speaker 2>they associated with any given any.

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<v Speaker 4>He has he has a hashtag that no lives, madam.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that that's any indication? But anyway, we're going a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit too off the we're getting a little well, anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>this was well you brought it.

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<v Speaker 2>You brought it up, which is okay, and I find

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<v Speaker 2>it intriguing brought it up. So but but but that's okay.

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<v Speaker 4>This is my neighbor where you say you see something,

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<v Speaker 4>say something. Well, this is where a neighbor said you

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<v Speaker 4>saw something, and he said something, and so in the

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<v Speaker 4>FBI goes in, it says, oh what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, they had some really dangerous chemicals there that

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<v Speaker 4>could explode very easy. They had a bunch of fifty

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<v Speaker 4>caliber firearms.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm looking at it right here. I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 2>a report out of a local television station, Local twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>which is w k RC, which I believe is in

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<v Speaker 2>Newport News, Virginia. So the guy's name is Brad. Spafford

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<v Speaker 2>was arrested on December seventeenth after the police found him

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<v Speaker 2>with an unregistered weapon. Authorities that obtained a search one

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<v Speaker 2>for his property. They found a stockpilot more than one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty homemade improvised explosive devices IEDs, assessed as

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<v Speaker 2>pipe bombs. Some of these devices were marked lethal. Some

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<v Speaker 2>of the devices were found in a detached garage, where

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<v Speaker 2>the FBI also found tools in manufacturing materials, including homelind

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<v Speaker 2>fuses and pieces of PVC pipe. Several additional apparent UH

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<v Speaker 2>pipe bombs were found in a backpack in the home's bedroom.

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<v Speaker 2>NBC reported the backpack had No Lives Matter written on it, which,

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<v Speaker 2>according to the New Jersey Office of Homeland Security, is

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<v Speaker 2>an extremist group who promotes mass killings and other crimes.

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<v Speaker 2>NBC They're they're quoting NBC here. Uh So, a local

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<v Speaker 2>judge released this guy with electronic monitoring, but he'll remain

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<v Speaker 2>in custody until a hearing with a federal judge takes place. Interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>interesting story, Patrick, that you brought to our attention, which

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<v Speaker 2>was certainly cause cause for concern.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Joy, because they're just like just what our friend

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<v Speaker 4>brought up about this this ride, this car share thing

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<v Speaker 4>that is really a scary liability for all of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever heard of to ro No, No.

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<v Speaker 4>I have not, but I can imagine that there is

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<v Speaker 4>such a thing, and that's very dangerous. And the insurance

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<v Speaker 4>regulators and the state legislators have to put this down

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<v Speaker 4>because you know, we can stop that if we hold

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<v Speaker 4>one of these owners responsible for a deed that somebody

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<v Speaker 4>uses with their vehicle.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know that you can do that unless

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<v Speaker 2>you can prove that the owner of the vehicle was

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<v Speaker 2>told or was complicit in it. I mean, if if

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<v Speaker 2>it's legal, I mean, if I can put an ad

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere and say, gee, I have an extra car in

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<v Speaker 2>my garage that I'm not using because my kid's away

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<v Speaker 2>at college, and if you want to rent the car

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<v Speaker 2>from me, here's my name and number. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that that's illegal.

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<v Speaker 4>If I use your vehicle go through a red light

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<v Speaker 4>camera or a puto enforcement speed, you're responsible for that ticket,

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<v Speaker 4>not me.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, I know, but I'm going to pay the ticket

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<v Speaker 2>and then I'm going to try to get the money

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<v Speaker 2>back from you. But at the same time, if you

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<v Speaker 2>take that vehicle and you use it in a manner,

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<v Speaker 2>it'd be very reasonable for me to assume that my

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<v Speaker 2>friend Patrick might occasionally go through a red light or

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<v Speaker 2>not fully stop at a stop sign. But I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that it's reasonable for me to assume that my

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<v Speaker 2>men Matt Patrick, when to say you're gonna wrint my vehicle?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you going to drive this down Bourbon Street and

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<v Speaker 2>kill fifteen people. I mean, there's a different level of

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<v Speaker 2>responsibility there.

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<v Speaker 4>My friend, something to think about, something that they all right,

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<v Speaker 4>go on to the next and we will see what

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<v Speaker 4>happens in the next few days.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be fascinating to see with this story.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it started off this morning they said classic

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<v Speaker 2>law lone wolf, that was what they were saying. And

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<v Speaker 2>then as the day went on, they said, well, may

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<v Speaker 2>have been other people involved, and his ed Davis told

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<v Speaker 2>us in the last hour they're still looking at other

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<v Speaker 2>potential connections here. Boy, the more I look at this,

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<v Speaker 2>if you look at the New York Post stories about

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<v Speaker 2>where this guy was living in a real rim shackle

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<v Speaker 2>uh trailer park with goats sheep. Now again I realize

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<v Speaker 2>it's Texas, it's not Massachusetts, but that's proof.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd be in hell, Billy Bless Bliss. I wouldn't need

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<v Speaker 4>to go out and kill anybody. I would have all

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<v Speaker 4>my chickens and all my ducks and everybody that.

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<v Speaker 2>Means sheep and goats, you know, have the run of

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<v Speaker 2>this Rundown trailer park where he kept sheeping goats in

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<v Speaker 2>the yard shamps champsu Dingjibar Patrick has always Thank you much,

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<v Speaker 2>my friend. You brought an interesting story to the to

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation tonight. Thank you much.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, thank you, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep an eye on that for us, will yeah, okay, thanks,

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<v Speaker 2>talk to you soon. We'll take quick break six one seven,

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<v Speaker 2>two five four to ten thirty six seven, nine thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to get your reaction to what went on

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<v Speaker 2>in New Orleans about eighteen hours ago. I mean, as always,

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<v Speaker 2>the sad part about these stories is just to think,

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen hours ago or less, these fifteen people were either

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<v Speaker 2>preparing to go out and celebrate New Year's Eve in

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<v Speaker 2>New Orleans, or or they were already out celebrating New

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<v Speaker 2>Year's Eve in New Orleans, and little did they know

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<v Speaker 2>that a few hours later they would be killed by

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<v Speaker 2>a terrorist lone wolf otherwise, who decided to drive this

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<v Speaker 2>coming back on night side six one seven two thirty,

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<v Speaker 2>six seven ninety I got some wide open lines here,

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<v Speaker 1>World Nightside Studios on WBZ News.

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<v Speaker 2>Radio, we're talking about what happened in New Orleans. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>go to Steven Bridgewater. Steve, You're next night Side. Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>and happy New Year, Steve.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Dan, happy to you. I hope you enjoyed your

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<v Speaker 2>I did. Happy to be back, nonetheless, and just sorry

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<v Speaker 2>to start off with the year with such a down

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<v Speaker 2>move back to some of the lighter topics. But go

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<v Speaker 2>right ahead, Steve, what's your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. I turned the news on this morning, like I

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<v Speaker 5>I said, Oh, nice way to stop the year off.

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<v Speaker 5>Huh yeah, yeah, unbelievable, And I just got a question

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<v Speaker 5>the truck and they found all these bombs all over

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<v Speaker 5>the place. They start with eyes, the same ones they

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<v Speaker 5>did have blown up our soldiers in Iraq? What do

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<v Speaker 2>Ideas, I improvised, exposed the devices, I eds.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, and they found a remote in the truck. Do

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<v Speaker 5>you think the idea was he was going to explode them,

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<v Speaker 5>but he got killed them to shootout first, because.

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<v Speaker 2>I would assume, I would assume. So now again, I

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<v Speaker 2>the authorities can figure that out. What we were told

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<v Speaker 2>earlier today was that the FBI were looking at some

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<v Speaker 2>to be a little careful on that because sometimes, again,

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<v Speaker 2>Bourbon Street and everybody's probably feeling a little happy and loose,

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<v Speaker 2>and there could be people who were, you know, putting things,

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<v Speaker 2>putting a beer can down on the sidewalk, and from

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<v Speaker 2>a you know, I think, if I recall correctly, alcohol

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<v Speaker 2>walking and then putting a container down on a sidewalk,

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<v Speaker 2>and from some security camp, you know, one hundred feet away,

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<v Speaker 2>might look like a pretty suspicious activity. Uh. But apparently,

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<v Speaker 2>according to the New York Post tonight, the New York

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<v Speaker 2>Post is reporting uh that uh that this, uh that

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<v Speaker 2>that is no longer. They do not they're not looking

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<v Speaker 2>at at at local people, uh, you know, in the

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<v Speaker 2>New Orleans area. So yeah, that's what the post. FBI

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<v Speaker 2>rules out involvement of three men one woman allegedly seen

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<v Speaker 2>planting I e eds around New Orleans near attack. Feds

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<v Speaker 2>have ruled out the ISIS flag flying terrorists who killed

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<v Speaker 2>that the that the ice IS flag flying terrorists who

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<v Speaker 2>killed at least fifteen people and injured dozens of others

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<v Speaker 2>had help from four people spotted on surveillance footage near

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<v Speaker 2>the deadly attack On Wednesday, Video silverivance from the French

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<v Speaker 2>Quarter seemingly showed three men and one woman planting explosives

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<v Speaker 2>at multiple locations, a federal alert to police departments around

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<v Speaker 2>the country said soon after the tragic attack. Federal authorities

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<v Speaker 2>have since ruled out their involvement in the attack, but

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<v Speaker 2>still suggested that terror suspect shamsu Din Jabbar was not

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<v Speaker 2>solely responsible for the carnage.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, they'll never know.

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<v Speaker 5>They might never know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they should eventually know, because even though this guy's dead,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure he left some sort of an electronic trail.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he had a phone, even if it was

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<v Speaker 2>a burner phone. They can probably get some information off

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<v Speaker 2>of that. Maybe he was a loner who pulled us

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<v Speaker 2>off by himself to some extent. If that were true,

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<v Speaker 2>it would probably come some concerns. But if there are

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<v Speaker 2>other people who are working with him on it, who

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<v Speaker 2>are they? Where did they go? I mean this guy,

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<v Speaker 2>This guy served in the army for over ten years.

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<v Speaker 2>He came out with a rank of staff sergeant. He

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<v Speaker 2>tried to start some sort of a real estate business,

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<v Speaker 2>which apparently didn't work, and his life spiral downward. He's

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<v Speaker 2>now forty two years He was forty two years old,

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<v Speaker 2>divorced twice, in bankruptcy, living in a trailer park in

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but he was not, you know, he was not

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<v Speaker 5>an illegally immigrants. He was born in this country.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I understand. He served in the US military

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<v Speaker 2>for ten years or ten plus years, was deployed to Afghanistan.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember the major Major Nadal Hassan, the guy at Fort

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<v Speaker 2>Hood who gunned down I think it was thirteen US

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<v Speaker 2>service personnel back in two thousand and nine. He's still

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<v Speaker 2>on federal death row. By the way, he did not

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<v Speaker 2>get a pardon from President Biden. So I would suspect

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<v Speaker 2>that shortly after Donald Trump becomes president, if his appeals

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<v Speaker 2>have run out, his life can be probably measured in

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<v Speaker 2>a matter of hours rather than weeks, or days rather

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<v Speaker 5>I should say, yeah, yeah, all right, Dan, Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate your call. Thank you much, take a break. Six

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<v Speaker 2>one seven, two, five, four, ten thirty, triple eight nine

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<v Speaker 2>back tonight. Look, if you don't want to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>this topic, which I can understand, we can move on

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<v Speaker 2>to the to the other topics that we had promoted tonight. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>if you'd like to continue to talk about what happened

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<v Speaker 2>in New Orleans, And again, what happened in New Orleans

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<v Speaker 2>happened just eighteen hours ago. Those fifteen people were as

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<v Speaker 2>a lie as you and I are right now eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>hours ago. Little did they know that they only had

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<v Speaker 2>a brief period of time in which to live. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a horrible way to start the new year.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you want to talk about it. Six one seven, two, five,

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<v Speaker 2>going to move on to a different topic back on

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<v Speaker 2>night Side right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're on night Side with Dan Ray on wz

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<v Speaker 6>It's just interesting that people go out to celebrate New

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<v Speaker 6>Year's Eve and little do they know that their their

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<v Speaker 6>time is so limited.

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<v Speaker 2>Just horrific. Lola joins us from San Diego, Lolla, welcome, happy,

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry starting this topic.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well it's not. I don't even know way to

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<v Speaker 3>begin to explain my discussed and disappointment with this country.

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<v Speaker 3>This guy's been amassing all this stuff, and how did

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<v Speaker 3>he get it all together? Nobody, you know, every there's

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<v Speaker 3>a camera on every corner. They're watching what we say

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<v Speaker 3>on Facebook, Instagram, and they can't figure this out.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a great point you make. According to

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<v Speaker 2>according to The New York Post, I love that paper.

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<v Speaker 5>I love that paper.

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<v Speaker 2>Made videos where he confessed to planning murder his family.

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<v Speaker 2>He claimed he joined Isis now. I haven't seen the videos,

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<v Speaker 2>but if the New York Post can figure them out

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<v Speaker 2>now Again, I don't know that they figured him out

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of time. They must have gone to his Facebook page,

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<v Speaker 2>but is no one else seeing what people are putting up.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>They are watching. I have friends that are in the

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<v Speaker 3>health industry and they get their their pages get shut

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<v Speaker 3>down because they're talking about you know, natural ways to

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<v Speaker 3>stay healthy instead of getting the jab. Okay, now A

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<v Speaker 3>I A I. Anybody saying the word blue, they search it.

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<v Speaker 3>Boom this guy, that guy, that guy. They could put

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<v Speaker 3>words in the search and do it. They're just not

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<v Speaker 3>doing it. You know what just reminded me of the

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<v Speaker 3>marathon bombers.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, we talked last how that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked, we talked last hour with former police Commissioner

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<v Speaker 2>At Davis, who of course was in charge of the

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<v Speaker 2>marathon bombing investigation. And as you may know, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>you know because you follow this pretty closely. FBI agents

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<v Speaker 2>interviewed the two brothers before the bombing, before the bombing,

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<v Speaker 2>and I gotta believe that if the FBI wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>go after you or me, they.

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<v Speaker 3>Could find something.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Harvey Silberbley has written the book Three Felonies

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<v Speaker 2>a Day. I just I mean, did this guy never

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<v Speaker 2>disclose to anyone what he was thinking? Now you could say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy's insane. Let's assume you say he's insane, he's

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<v Speaker 2>lost his mind. But I assumed that this guy must

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<v Speaker 2>have told other people. Yeah, you know, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>doing this. We had a guy up in Maine, the

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<v Speaker 2>killed I don't know what was fifteen or sixteen people

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<v Speaker 2>at two locations of Bowling Alley and elsewhere. He had

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<v Speaker 2>been interviewed. He was also a former military guy who

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<v Speaker 2>loved his weapons, and he he was interviewed and and

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<v Speaker 2>and he was allowed to keep his weapons and it

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<v Speaker 2>costs fifteen sixteen whatever then ever people were in main.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you remember that story.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a huge story back here, Lola, Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. But they can search anything, That's what I'm trying

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<v Speaker 3>to tell you. On Facebook and Instagram. If you start

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<v Speaker 2>Well put that aside for a second. If that's true,

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<v Speaker 2>and I suspect it is, why are they not searching

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<v Speaker 2>for ISIS and attacked?

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<v Speaker 3>I want and what I want to know.

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<v Speaker 2>There's got to be twenty keywords that these folks could

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<v Speaker 2>go through. And anyone who's watching ISIS videos, Uh, I

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<v Speaker 2>think they deserve it. They deserve at this point, a

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<v Speaker 2>visit from from the.

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<v Speaker 7>FBI, well they deserve someone will.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, well, what's your Probably someone the ACOU is going

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<v Speaker 2>to say to me, what's your probable cause you're just

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<v Speaker 2>looking at it at ISIS videos. Have you ever looked

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<v Speaker 2>at an ISIS video? I have no, No, I have

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<v Speaker 2>no interest in it. Now if look, if I was

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<v Speaker 2>a counter terrorism expert and I had to because of

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<v Speaker 2>my job watch ISIS videos, if the FBI came knocking

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<v Speaker 2>at the door and said, what are you doing looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the ISIS videos? I could easily say, look, that's

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<v Speaker 2>part of my job. I work for you know, the FBI,

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<v Speaker 2>just like you. But if I'm some Joe schmuck who's

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<v Speaker 2>looking at it's like someone who's looking at child pornography.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, they can yeah, and they're not doing

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<v Speaker 3>a good job about that either.

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<v Speaker 2>But right, but I'm saying I'm more concerned about that

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<v Speaker 2>as opposed to somebody who's talking about holistic medicine or

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, different type of medical meda teddy medications

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<v Speaker 2>that might be more effective than.

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<v Speaker 3>My point was. My point about that was if they

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<v Speaker 3>can find people looking about that, why can't they find

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<v Speaker 3>them about looking about any other code words, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like come on, come on.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I would think if they they should have

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<v Speaker 2>shot at President elect Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania. Not Wisconsin, Butler, Pennsylvania.

425
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<v Speaker 2>This kid, the age of twenty, all of a sudden

426
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<v Speaker 2>decides to buy a weapon and uh and take a

427
00:25:20.440 --> 00:25:23.759
<v Speaker 2>shot that nearly kills a presidential candidate who now is

428
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<v Speaker 2>the president elect. And that was who this kid was

429
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<v Speaker 2>ahead of time.

430
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<v Speaker 3>Well, that Luigi kid. There were flags all over the place,

431
00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:34.920
<v Speaker 3>and his own mother, his own mother said to the

432
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<v Speaker 3>FBI or whoever went knocking on her door, Oh yeah,

433
00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:40.200
<v Speaker 3>that could have been my that could have been my son. Well,

434
00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:43.359
<v Speaker 3>you know, could have, should have, would have. But here's

435
00:25:43.400 --> 00:25:45.440
<v Speaker 3>the thing. At the end of the day, there's more

436
00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:49.160
<v Speaker 3>more dead people, more dead Americans. When are we gonna

437
00:25:49.160 --> 00:25:52.200
<v Speaker 3>wake up? We're our own worst enemy. Oh, we don't

438
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<v Speaker 3>want to be filmed. We don't want this, We don't

439
00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:59.119
<v Speaker 3>want that. As much as I disliked China and I

440
00:25:59.119 --> 00:26:02.440
<v Speaker 3>don't want to buy any thing from there, I don't

441
00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:05.440
<v Speaker 3>see the problems there going on over there like they're

442
00:26:05.480 --> 00:26:06.480
<v Speaker 3>going on over here.

443
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I don't want to live in a police

444
00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:09.119
<v Speaker 2>state either.

445
00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:10.359
<v Speaker 3>But I don't.

446
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<v Speaker 2>But with as you said, with Ai and with all

447
00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:17.680
<v Speaker 2>of the Internet that we have, if people are looking

448
00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:21.839
<v Speaker 2>at kiddy porn sites, that there needs to be you

449
00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:24.720
<v Speaker 2>need to go check these people out, okay. And if

450
00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:27.319
<v Speaker 2>people are looking at terrorist sites, you need to check

451
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<v Speaker 2>them out. I guess what if people are looking at

452
00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:32.440
<v Speaker 2>ku Klux Klan sites. I mean, there should be a

453
00:26:32.519 --> 00:26:38.759
<v Speaker 2>much more, in my opinion, affirmative action taken by investigative

454
00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:42.519
<v Speaker 2>agencies to find the people, the male contents among us,

455
00:26:42.920 --> 00:26:46.880
<v Speaker 2>who who have the potential, the Dylan Roofs of the world,

456
00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:54.240
<v Speaker 2>who killed the the black parishioners in South Carolina, all

457
00:26:54.279 --> 00:26:57.559
<v Speaker 2>of those people they show signs. Lola, I got a screw.

458
00:26:57.759 --> 00:26:58.759
<v Speaker 2>Great to hear your voice.

459
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<v Speaker 7>We talk, happy new midhand.

460
00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:02.119
<v Speaker 3>We'll talk all right.

461
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<v Speaker 2>Let me go to Laurie in Idaho. Laurie, welcome, How

462
00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:05.920
<v Speaker 2>are you tonight? Welcome?

463
00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:11.000
<v Speaker 7>Welcome back. I am yeah, I was busy in the kitchen.

464
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

465
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<v Speaker 7>Not the best way to start the new year is that.

466
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<v Speaker 7>I believe my first Texas morning was something like five

467
00:27:16.960 --> 00:27:19.160
<v Speaker 7>thirty my time. But to someone on the East coast,

468
00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:22.400
<v Speaker 7>it's about it was just a capital WTF. And I

469
00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:26.519
<v Speaker 7>get back from the other side of New Orleans. I'm like, yeah, yeah,

470
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<v Speaker 7>I don't know.

471
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<v Speaker 2>You know, we were all on the alert here in Boston,

472
00:27:31.319 --> 00:27:33.960
<v Speaker 2>and maybe because of the marathon bombing. We'll always be

473
00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:36.960
<v Speaker 2>on alert, but it seemed like the city was fairly

474
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:41.920
<v Speaker 2>buttoned up. They had great first night celebrations in Boston.

475
00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:44.880
<v Speaker 2>I was asleep by eleven thirty, so I missed it all.

476
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:47.599
<v Speaker 2>Woke up this morning and I thought, well, it was

477
00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:50.119
<v Speaker 2>a pretty quiet evening and all of a sudden, I'm

478
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<v Speaker 2>hearing ten people dead in New Orleans. And of course

479
00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:55.720
<v Speaker 2>as the day went on, I said, I got to

480
00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:56.799
<v Speaker 2>talk about this tonight.

481
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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I agree, it's yeah.

482
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<v Speaker 2>Not what I you to talk about. But I think

483
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<v Speaker 2>Lola raised a great question. With all of the the

484
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<v Speaker 2>apparatus that we have available, how come that that this

485
00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:15.079
<v Speaker 2>guy can stay below the radar?

486
00:28:16.839 --> 00:28:20.039
<v Speaker 7>Well, the only well, I'm obviously our government, I'm sure

487
00:28:20.079 --> 00:28:22.000
<v Speaker 7>has the ability to scan the dark web too, But

488
00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:23.640
<v Speaker 7>part of it is in the dark web because there's

489
00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:26.799
<v Speaker 7>a lot of convolution and being able to hide on it.

490
00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:28.880
<v Speaker 7>But I can't believe that our government doesn't have the

491
00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:31.200
<v Speaker 7>ability to also scan it. But yes, and I felt

492
00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:32.519
<v Speaker 7>the same as she said. I felt the same thing

493
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<v Speaker 7>about the man who shot the excuse me, the United

494
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<v Speaker 7>Health Cookers guy in New York. You have known if

495
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:41.599
<v Speaker 7>he was talking to somebody, if there's something else going on,

496
00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:44.279
<v Speaker 7>because you know, they can't help themselves. They get involved

497
00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:47.519
<v Speaker 7>in all these weird social online group and so there

498
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:49.680
<v Speaker 7>has to be a way to track that. She's absolutely right.

499
00:28:50.799 --> 00:28:53.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I and I realized that that we live

500
00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:55.880
<v Speaker 2>in the freest society in the world, which is great,

501
00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:59.599
<v Speaker 2>but there comes a point in time. I mean there

502
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:03.279
<v Speaker 2>I keep saying, there are fifteen people dead tonight in

503
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<v Speaker 2>New Orleans who eight eighteen hours ago or well now

504
00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:12.519
<v Speaker 2>maybe seventeen hours ago, uh no, yeah, whatever the number

505
00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:16.519
<v Speaker 2>were here. Yeah, you know that at this time last night,

506
00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:20.039
<v Speaker 2>they were enjoying the world. They're enjoying it. Well, I

507
00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:22.200
<v Speaker 2>know they probably had tickets to the Sugar Bowl game,

508
00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:24.960
<v Speaker 2>were they probably had a great dinner. They were out

509
00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:27.559
<v Speaker 2>with some drinks with some friends, and in an instant, yeah,

510
00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:28.079
<v Speaker 2>it's over.

511
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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, And it's kind of interesting that New Orleans. What

512
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:36.440
<v Speaker 7>someone else who called said, you know that the I

513
00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:38.200
<v Speaker 7>think some a little bit. I don't like the FED

514
00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:40.519
<v Speaker 7>stepping on everybody's toes. But maybe get all these large

515
00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:43.880
<v Speaker 7>cities on the same wavelength as far as why weren't

516
00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:46.480
<v Speaker 7>those barriers in place for this kind of event and

517
00:29:46.519 --> 00:29:49.559
<v Speaker 7>they just put cruisers there. But see, I just I

518
00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:52.640
<v Speaker 7>think people think, people think kindly of human being and

519
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:54.880
<v Speaker 7>human behavior, and it just doesn't cur to you that

520
00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:57.440
<v Speaker 7>some idiot is going to come do this. And unfortunately,

521
00:29:57.480 --> 00:29:58.920
<v Speaker 7>I think that's the world we're in now.

522
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:02.039
<v Speaker 2>You look at work all, look at all of the

523
00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:04.799
<v Speaker 2>events that we've that I can think of in the

524
00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:08.880
<v Speaker 2>last few, uh in a couple of years where people

525
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<v Speaker 2>were plowed down, either intentionally or by accident on sidewalks.

526
00:30:13.160 --> 00:30:17.240
<v Speaker 2>And apparently this this truck didn't slam into the police

527
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:19.480
<v Speaker 2>car at that at the head of Bourbon Street. He

528
00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:22.960
<v Speaker 2>just swung around it and uh and drove down the sidewalk.

529
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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

530
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Then apparently they had had a place on Bourbon Street.

531
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<v Speaker 2>They had a place I guess what they call ballards

532
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:36.599
<v Speaker 2>b O L L A r d s Those either

533
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:42.519
<v Speaker 2>cement or steel structures. Look, we had we had an

534
00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:46.519
<v Speaker 2>event here in Massachusetts a couple of years ago where

535
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<v Speaker 2>some guy in a parking lot drove his car into

536
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<v Speaker 2>a big Yeah, and and they they said, well, why

537
00:30:57.240 --> 00:31:00.559
<v Speaker 2>weren't there. Look if you look at the Massachusetts State House,

538
00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:03.359
<v Speaker 2>go look at a picture they have them in front

539
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:06.200
<v Speaker 2>of the state House. You know, well, I guess they

540
00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:10.319
<v Speaker 2>could probably try to smash through them, but they're not coming.

541
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:14.640
<v Speaker 7>You know, their insurance company's not gonna pay for their car.

542
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:17.519
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't think so. I would think so. But I

543
00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:19.839
<v Speaker 2>just think the idea of why. The question I would

544
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:22.799
<v Speaker 2>like to ask people right now is do you want

545
00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:27.319
<v Speaker 2>the government to be a little more invasive of people

546
00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:31.759
<v Speaker 2>who are frequenting as you I've never been in the

547
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:33.640
<v Speaker 2>dark web. I would know how to get in the

548
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:38.039
<v Speaker 2>dark web. But what I'm saying is if if you

549
00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:43.119
<v Speaker 2>if you're some weirdo who's who's on kiddy porn sites? Uh,

550
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:46.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't think that. I think that the

551
00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:51.240
<v Speaker 2>there's probable cause there that that if if all of

552
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:54.119
<v Speaker 2>a sudden they realize, Okay, this guy's on kiddy porn sites,

553
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:57.640
<v Speaker 2>let's let's go talk to him, let's find out what's

554
00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:02.000
<v Speaker 2>going on. And that's that's a you know, and I

555
00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:04.559
<v Speaker 2>know that some people say to me, well, most people

556
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:06.920
<v Speaker 2>who are in kidty point sites would never attack a

557
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:10.720
<v Speaker 2>child I don't care. I don't care, you know, but

558
00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:16.279
<v Speaker 2>if you're okay, you know what said, if your frequency

559
00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:19.480
<v Speaker 2>ices sights, what are you doing that for?

560
00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:19.839
<v Speaker 3>Ye?

561
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:25.960
<v Speaker 7>What said? He served in Afghanisa, Afghanistan. Do you suppose

562
00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:29.000
<v Speaker 7>that something triggered over there that he thought, oh well

563
00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:30.279
<v Speaker 7>I can go get you know.

564
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Very possible. Yeah, and he might have. Well, it could

565
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:42.000
<v Speaker 2>be that maybe over there there were conversations that he

566
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:45.279
<v Speaker 2>overheard our US troops saying that he felt was disrespectful.

567
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:48.839
<v Speaker 2>Who knows, We'll never know his mind at this point.

568
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:52.200
<v Speaker 2>But I've got to tell you we should. We should

569
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:55.119
<v Speaker 2>get deep into every site that he was on. Let's

570
00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:56.799
<v Speaker 2>figure out who else is on these sites.

571
00:32:57.960 --> 00:33:00.880
<v Speaker 7>I have to Yeah, no privacy, no, obviously this stuff.

572
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:03.359
<v Speaker 7>I mean, if you're gonna do anything untoward, then you're

573
00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:05.079
<v Speaker 7>gonna be exposed. It's like, just like if you do

574
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:07.799
<v Speaker 7>anything untoward in public, it should be the same thing

575
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:09.480
<v Speaker 7>on the internet as far as I'm concerned.

576
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:12.599
<v Speaker 8>But oh sure, Yeah, you walk down the street buck

577
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:15.839
<v Speaker 8>naked in in the you know, boss the street in Boston,

578
00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:18.400
<v Speaker 8>that's going to cause that's going to cause some some

579
00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:19.720
<v Speaker 8>uh some reaction.

580
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<v Speaker 2>And I just think the same thing. I just think

581
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:25.640
<v Speaker 2>that we know that these people get radicalized on ISO sites.

582
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:29.079
<v Speaker 2>He's got an icest flag. Okay, sorry, why can't we

583
00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:32.880
<v Speaker 2>kill those sites? I mean, is it impossible.

584
00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:35.160
<v Speaker 7>That's a tough one. But yeah, but but at least

585
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:37.799
<v Speaker 7>monitor them and you know exactly then to go knock

586
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:38.799
<v Speaker 7>on their door someday.

587
00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:41.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean, I don't know if people are

588
00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:44.200
<v Speaker 2>on some sort of ku klux claim sites. I want

589
00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:49.319
<v Speaker 2>to know who those are those people are as well. Yeah, Laurie,

590
00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:52.480
<v Speaker 2>we're in agreement as always. Hey, Happy New Year.

591
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:55.079
<v Speaker 7>Thanks, Happy New Year to you too. I'm sorry. Were

592
00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:56.279
<v Speaker 7>you sick the whole time?

593
00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:01.559
<v Speaker 2>Pretty much? Well not, I mean I had a I'll

594
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:05.440
<v Speaker 2>talk about it, if not tonight later later this week.

595
00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:07.720
<v Speaker 2>They sent me for chest X right to make sure

596
00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:09.719
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have pneumonia. I was sick. I was pretty

597
00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:16.760
<v Speaker 2>sick for three or four five So I'm coming much better,

598
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:19.880
<v Speaker 2>much better. One not one day for sixteen hours, I'll

599
00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:20.360
<v Speaker 2>tell you that.

600
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<v Speaker 5>Wow. Night, that was.

601
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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Laurie.

602
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:29.239
<v Speaker 7>Talk to you soon, all right, goodnight, welcome back, Happy

603
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<v Speaker 7>New York.

604
00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Thanks much. Okay, take very quick break, we will. I'll

605
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<v Speaker 2>take a couple more calls of this. I will switch

606
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<v Speaker 2>topics at ten, because I think that no one either

607
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:42.800
<v Speaker 2>wants to talk about this or feels that there's much

608
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:46.320
<v Speaker 2>they can add to the conversation. Six one seven thirty

609
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<v Speaker 2>if you want to try, or six one seven nine

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<v Speaker 2>thirty coming back right after the break here at night Side.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Way live from the window World

612
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<v Speaker 1>to night Sight Studios. I'm WBZ New Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, back to college. We all y's go to ron

614
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<v Speaker 2>Is in Newton. Ron welcome back, How are you wrong? Welcome,

615
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<v Speaker 2>Happy New Year?

616
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<v Speaker 5>Hi again happening You're welcome back. Really glad to have

617
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<v Speaker 5>you back. Job anyway, have you ever thought about the

618
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<v Speaker 5>timeline that led up to nine to eleven, nineteen ninety

619
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<v Speaker 5>three when ronson usef Ye come back to.

620
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<v Speaker 2>Take down with the bombing there in the in the garage, yep.

621
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<v Speaker 5>Okay boy, And that was the beginnings. He escaped. He

622
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<v Speaker 5>later went to They caught him in in the Philippines

623
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<v Speaker 5>at one point making he and some other individuals making bombs.

624
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<v Speaker 5>Mohammad the person who flew Flight eleven into Tower one,

625
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<v Speaker 5>he was an architect. He was he was trained in

626
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:06.760
<v Speaker 5>Cairo than Germany.

627
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<v Speaker 2>Smart guy.

628
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<v Speaker 5>And they hambered the four in the Hamburg, Germany, so

629
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<v Speaker 5>for a while, and then they came over to Florida

630
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<v Speaker 5>and they had extensive flight lessons. In fact, they had

631
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<v Speaker 5>much more than the forty hours usually necessary for doing

632
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<v Speaker 5>this alf they had one hundred ninety hours.

633
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<v Speaker 2>And then but then there were there were reports back

634
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<v Speaker 2>on those guys. They didn't want to learn how to

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<v Speaker 2>take the take off or land. They just wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>know how to playing with the up of the air

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<v Speaker 2>And there was an FBI agent, a woman out of

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<v Speaker 2>then Minneapolis office, who tried to get the word up

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<v Speaker 2>the chain of command and it never got up there.

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<v Speaker 5>Well there was yeah, that supposedly they were siloed. The

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<v Speaker 5>CIA and FBI worked more siloed than they than they

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<v Speaker 5>are now. I mean, hopefully they advanced I think they have.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know, along that timeline, subsequently the bombings and

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<v Speaker 5>Somalia outside the US and the site and then following

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<v Speaker 5>that the uh that's right. And even before that, Ronja

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<v Speaker 5>Yusuf was involved with a what they call the Badjinka plot,

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<v Speaker 5>where they were going to actually the plan was to

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<v Speaker 5>fly twelve airliners into different points of the viewers, in fact,

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<v Speaker 5>with the hope of hitting some nucleosytes and even all

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<v Speaker 5>the way up till August of two thousand and one.

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<v Speaker 5>These guys were pretty active. And the second so the

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<v Speaker 5>Terran that flew into the tower, he was Uh, he

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<v Speaker 5>was he was trained in engineering. He understood that the

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<v Speaker 5>stress points of the buildings. They took field trips into

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<v Speaker 5>New York City. Uh and uh it was. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know if she's ever seen or heard some of the

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<v Speaker 5>Yosama bin Laden training manual.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, you know all of that, and so sore,

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<v Speaker 2>where are you taking me? I I'm familiar with everything

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<v Speaker 2>you've said.

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<v Speaker 5>My point is, yeah, My point is that everybody's been

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<v Speaker 5>talking about what the FBI may be watching in this country,

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<v Speaker 5>but a lot of that can easily be orchestrated outside

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<v Speaker 5>of the country. That's my point.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but you know what I'm saying, But right no

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<v Speaker 2>one can be and you and and I think we've

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<v Speaker 2>done a pretty good job protecting the terrorist attacks. Since

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<v Speaker 2>were the Boston bombers, they were they were, they came

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<v Speaker 2>here and we're in the process of becoming American citizens.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy was an American citizen. Nadal Hassan the major

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<v Speaker 2>in the military at Fort Hood. He was an American citizen.

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<v Speaker 2>He was in the US military. Now we have homegrown

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<v Speaker 2>this guy apparently was born here in Texas. There was

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<v Speaker 2>some ONUS reports earlier today about how he got here.

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<v Speaker 2>But this guy apparently was a US citizen born in Texas.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Well, one of the hijackers too had been in

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<v Speaker 5>the military and in a counter terrorism division, so he

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<v Speaker 5>knew how to make bombs. He knew all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the hijackers, one of the nineteen hijackers.

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<v Speaker 5>Yep, oh I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm unfamiliar with that.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll get it to tomorrow. But anyway, my my point,

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<v Speaker 5>I guess in general is that some of this stuff,

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<v Speaker 5>like the stuff that was going on in the Philippines

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<v Speaker 5>for the you know they how closely do they monitor

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<v Speaker 5>it there or can they.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I don't know the cooperation with other countries, the

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<v Speaker 2>Philippines that has had their own problems with you know,

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<v Speaker 2>homegrown terrorists there. Ron So I mean, I I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to put my arms around something we can do,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is we should be able to monitor the

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<v Speaker 2>is of sites and if somebody's going to the ISI sites. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>if there's some college professors doing research, that's fine, But

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<v Speaker 2>if all of a sudden you go into some guys room,

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<v Speaker 2>you're knocking the door, he opens the door, there's three

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<v Speaker 2>iceis flags there. Now you got somebody you at least

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<v Speaker 2>can begin to keep an eye on him. Hey, Ron,

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<v Speaker 2>I am up against my break, so I got to

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<v Speaker 2>let you go. But thanks so much for checking in. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we will talk soon many times this year. Thanks thanks Ron.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, those in the line stay there. If you'd

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<v Speaker 2>like to continue to talk about this, you have the

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<v Speaker 2>number six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty six

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<v Speaker 2>one seven, nine three one ten thirty. Sandra and Carver

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<v Speaker 2>will get to you for sure. Anyone else would like

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<v Speaker 2>to talk on this subject. If not, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>move to a different topic. I think it's extremely important.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you would as well. I know it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a downer on January first, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>we have a choice. We've done two hours. I'm willing

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<v Speaker 2>to talk more, or we can switch. Coming back on

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<v Speaker 2>night side