WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.640 --> 00:00:02.960 This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:05.879 AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand 3 00:00:05.960 --> 00:00:07.320 on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:09.839 --> 00:00:12.400 A couple weeks ago, we told you the story of 5 00:00:13.000 --> 00:00:16.160 high school juniors who were getting seventy thousand dollars a 6 00:00:16.239 --> 00:00:20.679 year job offers because, among other things, they didn't want 7 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:23.280 to go to college and get a degree in left 8 00:00:23.320 --> 00:00:27.039 handed medieval puppetry. They wanted to do something where their 9 00:00:27.079 --> 00:00:31.559 skills would be used immediately, and for many of these 10 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:35.960 cases in mechanical ways, working with their hands and getting 11 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:39.200 paid right away. And one of the places that allows 12 00:00:39.240 --> 00:00:43.679 you to do that is the Heavy Metal Summer Experience 13 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:49.320 sheet metal piping, electrical plumbing trades at the Heavy Metal 14 00:00:49.359 --> 00:00:53.359 Summer Experience. Angie Simon is executive director and co founder 15 00:00:53.799 --> 00:00:57.200 of Heavy Metal Summer Experience, and she joins us now. First, Angie, 16 00:00:57.200 --> 00:01:01.240 thanks for taking time for us today. 17 00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:01.960 And Gary, I really appreciate you having me on. Thank 18 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:02.600 you very much. 19 00:01:02.759 --> 00:01:05.159 Hey, I'm the father of a son who did not 20 00:01:05.239 --> 00:01:06.959 want to go to college. He wanted to work with 21 00:01:07.040 --> 00:01:10.680 his hands and he's been doing that and I'm I'm 22 00:01:10.879 --> 00:01:16.480 I love the idea, I love the the creativity, I guess, 23 00:01:16.480 --> 00:01:19.439 even though that seems like we kind of fell away 24 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:21.959 from the old trades when it comes to getting jobs. 25 00:01:21.959 --> 00:01:24.280 Where where did this come from? Where did heavy metal 26 00:01:24.280 --> 00:01:25.920 summer experience come from? 27 00:01:26.879 --> 00:01:30.599 Well, Gary, I was the president and CEO of a 28 00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:33.439 mechanical contracting firm up here in northern California. 29 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:35.120 I'm in the San Francisco Bay area. 30 00:01:35.280 --> 00:01:37.840 And you know, I think I think I realized we 31 00:01:37.840 --> 00:01:38.920 were a union contractor. 32 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:40.519 We had sheet melon pipe fitters. 33 00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:43.400 And I realized that so many of the kids in 34 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:45.840 the neighborhoods, they all expect to go to college, but 35 00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:47.359 many of the kids weren't. 36 00:01:47.239 --> 00:01:49.359 Excited about it. They didn't want to go to college. 37 00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:51.719 So I decided we were in a we were a 38 00:01:51.760 --> 00:01:53.519 neighbors with an underserved area, East. 39 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:55.840 Palo Alto, and we decided that we would run a 40 00:01:55.879 --> 00:01:59.040 summer camp in our shop to teach the East Palato 41 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:01.040 high schoolers about trades because a. 42 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:02.879 Lot of them weren't going to go to college. And 43 00:02:03.000 --> 00:02:04.400 it was I did that. 44 00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:07.079 I decided to do this, and my friend up in 45 00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:09.639 Seattle recurrements and decided to do it with me. So 46 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:11.680 the two of us kind of formed what we decided 47 00:02:11.680 --> 00:02:14.719 to name Heavy Metal Summer Experience, and it was basically 48 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:18.199 a summer camp to teach high schoolers about the mechanical, elexical, 49 00:02:18.240 --> 00:02:21.520 and plumbing trades. And the first summer it was just 50 00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:24.800 an amazing experience. These kids and their parents were so appreciative. 51 00:02:25.159 --> 00:02:26.680 Many of these kids didn't even know how to use 52 00:02:26.719 --> 00:02:29.080 a tape measure, and now all of a sudden, a 53 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:30.520 bunch of them have been in our trades. 54 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:32.319 This was back in twenty twenty one. 55 00:02:33.400 --> 00:02:36.360 I have I've railed about this for a long time 56 00:02:36.879 --> 00:02:39.159 since somebody paid me to sit in front of a microphone. 57 00:02:39.199 --> 00:02:42.759 And that is that we complain, not we you and 58 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:45.080 I don't complain about this. People who are younger than 59 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:46.719 I was complaining they don't have the money to buy 60 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:50.439 a house, but they're also not doing the math or 61 00:02:50.439 --> 00:02:53.439 the realization of well, you went to four year college, 62 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:56.639 you got a degree in philosophy or whatever you got, 63 00:02:57.080 --> 00:02:59.719 and you did it all on student loans. You're never 64 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:01.719 going to be able to afford a house at that point. 65 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:04.360 But if you work in the trades, you work with 66 00:03:04.400 --> 00:03:07.919 your hands, even while you get your philosophy degree, you're 67 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:10.360 going to be paid for actual work. 68 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:12.479 Is Do you see that as well? Am I am? 69 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:13.039 I crazy? 70 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:16.439 No, not at all. You know, I tell the story. 71 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:19.680 So I'm retired now, I'm in my sixties. But when 72 00:03:19.719 --> 00:03:22.120 I started at Western Allied, and I was there thirty 73 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:25.120 five years, I had gone to college for five years, 74 00:03:25.159 --> 00:03:26.280 which is kind of the typical. 75 00:03:26.719 --> 00:03:28.919 I enjoyed that last year, and I worked. 76 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:30.199 For one other company for a year, so I'd been 77 00:03:30.199 --> 00:03:31.879 out of college, I mean out of high school for 78 00:03:31.919 --> 00:03:34.800 six years when I started at Western Allied and there 79 00:03:34.879 --> 00:03:37.800 was a pipefitter that was my age, I think, by 80 00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:39.840 maybe a year older, and he had just bought his 81 00:03:39.879 --> 00:03:40.560 first house. 82 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:42.639 In the Bay Area and I just barely. 83 00:03:42.360 --> 00:03:44.719 Got out of college and was paying my parents back. 84 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:46.840 I didn't have any student loans because my parents failed 85 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:49.840 to help me. But the fact that he was able 86 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:51.599 to buy a house in the Bay Area because he 87 00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:54.120 started at eighteen years old and been working for. 88 00:03:54.080 --> 00:03:56.479 Six years, and he had part of that time he lived. 89 00:03:56.280 --> 00:03:58.719 At home with his folks, and he saved enough money 90 00:03:58.759 --> 00:04:01.520 to buy a house. So absolutely, that's I mean, we 91 00:04:01.560 --> 00:04:03.840 all get a late start. I mean the average age 92 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:06.560 of people going into the apprenticeships right now is twenty 93 00:04:06.599 --> 00:04:09.360 seven years old, so they're obviously doing other. 94 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:11.199 Things for the first ten years before when they get 95 00:04:11.199 --> 00:04:11.919 out of high school. 96 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:14.719 And that's my thought was, let's encourage some of these 97 00:04:14.800 --> 00:04:18.000 high school kids to join the unions and the trades 98 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:20.399 right out of high school, and amazing, by the time 99 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:22.040 they're twenty five years old, they're going to be a 100 00:04:22.079 --> 00:04:24.160 journey person and making six figures. 101 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:28.360 Yeah, that's I just don't think people understand that the 102 00:04:28.439 --> 00:04:32.000 amount of money that you can make immediately, whether it's 103 00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:35.199 a welding like an AA degree in welding from a 104 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:39.879 community college somewhere, which here in California is basically free, 105 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:42.240 you're going to be able to get out there and 106 00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:45.519 have a steady job with good benefits. Often is there 107 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:48.480 a specific area or a specific trade that you think 108 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:51.480 is the most in need of bodies right now? 109 00:04:52.959 --> 00:04:55.120 Well, I do think the three we focus on that 110 00:04:55.240 --> 00:04:57.879 we call them the skilled trades of mechanical, electrical, and plumbing. 111 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:00.839 I will say that I think going forward all three 112 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:05.560 need people desperately, but electrically, I think electricians are going 113 00:05:05.639 --> 00:05:07.519 to be where the real shortage is because of all 114 00:05:07.519 --> 00:05:10.240 the electrification as well as the solar and all the 115 00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:11.319 energy across the nation. 116 00:05:11.439 --> 00:05:13.879 All ship factory is being built. I really do think 117 00:05:13.920 --> 00:05:15.560 we're going to be really short of electricians. 118 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:18.720 But right now in construction, we are short four hundred 119 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:19.639 thousand jobs. 120 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:20.759 Now, I mean people. 121 00:05:20.759 --> 00:05:22.560 We don't have enough people to fill four hundred thousand 122 00:05:22.639 --> 00:05:25.519 jobs and forty percent of our industries retiring in the 123 00:05:25.519 --> 00:05:28.399 next five to seven years. So you know, if you're 124 00:05:28.480 --> 00:05:31.480 interested in getting a good job that pays, well, get 125 00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:34.560 into the trades, because boy, there is so much opportunity 126 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:35.600 in the next ten years. 127 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:38.600 What's your favorite trade? What do you like to tinker with? 128 00:05:40.360 --> 00:05:42.839 Well, I guess I would say that probably I worked 129 00:05:42.839 --> 00:05:45.680 for a sheet metal and piping contractor, and I guess 130 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:47.839 I have a little favorite towards sheet metal, just because 131 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:51.000 I think the stainless and the welding and it's kind 132 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:51.360 of fun. 133 00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:53.560 I like seat metal, but that's I think piping is 134 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:56.279 good too, but I don't. I'm a little more afraid 135 00:05:56.279 --> 00:05:56.959 of electrical. 136 00:05:57.480 --> 00:06:00.319 So yeah, that'll give you a good buzz if if 137 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:03.439 you're not careful, it'll let you know when you do 138 00:06:03.519 --> 00:06:04.160 something wrong. 139 00:06:04.759 --> 00:06:06.600 All right, can you hang on for well, Angie, can 140 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:07.480 you hang on for another segment? 141 00:06:07.519 --> 00:06:09.720 I want to talk specifically about what goes on during 142 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:11.680 the camps, where they are, and how people can sign 143 00:06:11.759 --> 00:06:12.160 up for those. 144 00:06:13.439 --> 00:06:14.360 I'd love to all right. 145 00:06:14.399 --> 00:06:17.639 Angie Simon is executive director and co founder of Heavy 146 00:06:17.680 --> 00:06:22.160 Metal Summer Experience. If you're interested, if your kids are interested, 147 00:06:22.319 --> 00:06:25.439 if you want your kid to be interested, you can 148 00:06:25.480 --> 00:06:30.439 go to HMS dot org heavy Metal Summer Experience HMSE 149 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:34.279 dot org. A great location map as on there, including 150 00:06:34.319 --> 00:06:36.319 a bunch here in the West, the City of Industry 151 00:06:36.920 --> 00:06:41.600 Commerce down in San Diego, you got Ventura. All of 152 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:44.040 these places are going to be having summer camps with 153 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:46.720 Heavy Metal Summer Experience. We'll come back with Angie here 154 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:47.560 in just a moment. 155 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:52.639 You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 156 00:06:52.879 --> 00:06:53.759 AM six forty. 157 00:06:55.439 --> 00:06:56.800 We've been talking with Angie Simon. 158 00:06:56.839 --> 00:06:59.560 She's the executive director and co founder of Heavy Metal 159 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:03.800 Summer Experience. To help expose young kids to the trades. 160 00:07:03.879 --> 00:07:08.199 We need more people in the trades, sheet metal, piping, plumbing, trades. 161 00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:09.800 You can explore all of them. 162 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:11.839 You become part of a team that's going to build 163 00:07:11.920 --> 00:07:14.680 community in all of this. Each of the camps that 164 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:16.959 they run is unique, and there are several of them, 165 00:07:16.959 --> 00:07:19.720 not just here in California, but throughout the country if 166 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:22.680 you're listening in other parts of the world. Angie, the 167 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:26.920 heavy Metal Summer Experience, What is it? What does it 168 00:07:27.120 --> 00:07:30.079 entail for say a sixteen seventeen eighteen year old. 169 00:07:30.040 --> 00:07:34.279 Kid, Well, Gary, Every camp is free to the kids, 170 00:07:34.519 --> 00:07:36.720 so they go in and they don't pay anything for 171 00:07:36.759 --> 00:07:37.240 this camp. 172 00:07:37.399 --> 00:07:39.639 Typically they're going to be thirty to forty hours of. 173 00:07:39.600 --> 00:07:43.279 Camp, so they are different schedules depending on the location. 174 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:45.360 Some of them will do it in one week, some 175 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:46.920 of them will do it in two weeks in the 176 00:07:46.959 --> 00:07:50.959 afternoons because they're often run in contractors' shops or in 177 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:53.839 union training center, so it depends on the shop. For example, 178 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:56.000 if it's the contractor's shop, it might have to be 179 00:07:56.040 --> 00:07:57.519 in the afternoons. So they're going to run it for 180 00:07:57.519 --> 00:08:00.279 two weeks in the afternoons. But the day one they 181 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:02.040 show up, they get a set of red wing boots 182 00:08:02.040 --> 00:08:05.000 that we have a Metal Summer Experience paid for, and 183 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:07.600 they get their own set of work boots because. 184 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:09.839 That makes you feel like you're really in working in 185 00:08:09.879 --> 00:08:10.360 the shop. 186 00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:13.839 And then throughout that forty hours they're going to be 187 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:17.160 doing sheet metal piping, then to be welding, they're going 188 00:08:17.199 --> 00:08:20.360 to be soldering. They'll be making projects. Make a toolbox 189 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:22.160 that they can take home. They make a lamp out 190 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:23.920 of piping that they can take home, They learn how 191 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:26.519 to wire the lamp, and they just do a whole 192 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:28.879 bunch of projects. We talked a lot about safety, We 193 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:30.720 talk a lot about well. We also talk a lot 194 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:33.840 about technology, because I think people don't realize how much 195 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:36.080 technology is using construction nowadays. 196 00:08:36.759 --> 00:08:39.840 Robotics and AI, all of that's being used in construction, 197 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:43.840 so it doesn't mean we're just digging ditches and construction anymore. 198 00:08:44.240 --> 00:08:45.120 And then when. 199 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:47.000 They're done getting toward the end of that, they get 200 00:08:47.200 --> 00:08:50.039 a graduation metal, the stainless seal metal, and they get 201 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:52.840 a bag of handfuls from either Milwaukee. 202 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:54.840 Or Duwalt, which are partners of ours for Heavy Metal 203 00:08:54.840 --> 00:08:57.960 Summer Experience. We have some amazing partners. So it's a 204 00:08:57.960 --> 00:08:59.120 great week. 205 00:08:59.159 --> 00:09:01.919 Of them learning a little bit about what it means 206 00:09:01.919 --> 00:09:05.440 to be in the trades, and you know, they you can. 207 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:08.240 Just see how much they really enjoy working with their hands. 208 00:09:08.960 --> 00:09:09.440 Is this. 209 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:14.320 Is this a replacement for the lack of shop classes 210 00:09:14.360 --> 00:09:16.120 that we've seen in high schools taken away? 211 00:09:17.559 --> 00:09:18.960 I feel very strongly it is. 212 00:09:19.039 --> 00:09:21.320 I mean I feel like, I mean, I'm sure my age, 213 00:09:21.320 --> 00:09:23.600 but there was still shop classes when I was in 214 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:27.200 high school. But I feel that if we had more 215 00:09:27.240 --> 00:09:30.320 of these shop classes and Vogue tech type classes in 216 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:30.840 our high. 217 00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:33.159 Schools, we wouldn't have to do this because they would 218 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:35.240 learn about that. So I kind of. 219 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:37.960 There's some states that are much better than California in 220 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:41.320 regards to that, that have better shops in their high schools. 221 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:42.960 But really it's just a way. 222 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:45.279 I think we also need to change of perception about 223 00:09:45.320 --> 00:09:48.440 cut construction. That people we need to understand that's not 224 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:51.120 like a secondary backstep job. I mean, this is a 225 00:09:51.240 --> 00:09:54.120 really great career. You get benefits, you get you know, 226 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:56.559 health care and tensions, and I mean, you. 227 00:09:56.480 --> 00:09:58.559 Can retire at fifty five if you start at eighteen, 228 00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:00.720 and you're going to have full benefit at that point. 229 00:10:00.799 --> 00:10:03.360 So I do think that if we could get this 230 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:05.480 back into our high schools, then maybe we wouldn't need 231 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:09.240 these summer camps anymore. But listen, I started in twenty 232 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:12.279 twenty one with two camps and twenty eight kids, and 233 00:10:12.320 --> 00:10:14.639 this summer we have fifty one camps across the United 234 00:10:14.679 --> 00:10:17.399 States and Canada, and I have almost nine hundred kids. 235 00:10:17.159 --> 00:10:21.080 In the camps. Wow, it's just gone crazy. 236 00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:24.759 And for the kids or for maybe adults that are 237 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:27.519 listening that have kids that are in this world and 238 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:30.480 you know they're mechanically inclined, or they're not cut out 239 00:10:30.519 --> 00:10:34.080 for college, or however you want to put it, this 240 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:37.559 can easily lead to a job just from the instructors 241 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:39.360 that are involved with the camps, right, I mean, they'll 242 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:41.080 hire some of these kids right away. 243 00:10:42.039 --> 00:10:44.639 The instructors or the contractors that are running the camps, 244 00:10:44.639 --> 00:10:47.679 and they in the camps, they meet the union's folks, 245 00:10:47.679 --> 00:10:50.559 they meet how they learn how to apply for the apprenticeship, they. 246 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:51.200 Learn what it takes. 247 00:10:51.240 --> 00:10:54.480 And many times the contractors, if they're hosting a camp, 248 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:57.039 will hire the graduates on the spot and say, hey, 249 00:10:57.159 --> 00:10:58.440 come work as a pre apprentice. 250 00:10:58.799 --> 00:11:00.360 You know, I make sure you can go up on 251 00:11:00.399 --> 00:11:02.200 time for six months and everything else, and then they 252 00:11:02.200 --> 00:11:03.279 get them in the apprenticeship. 253 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:06.840 So we have in La in the La La area, we. 254 00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:10.480 Have three camps this summer, and well actually four depending 255 00:11:10.519 --> 00:11:12.000 on what you call the La area. But we have 256 00:11:12.039 --> 00:11:13.039 one in Commerce, we have. 257 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:14.720 One in the City of Industry, we have one in 258 00:11:14.759 --> 00:11:18.159 San Diego, and one in Ventura next summer. Those are 259 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:20.559 all Most of our camps are pretty well full this summer. 260 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:23.200 It's kind of late at this point. But next summer, 261 00:11:23.240 --> 00:11:26.159 I think we will also add Pomona. We may also 262 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:30.840 add Vista and Fresno potentially so in the California area. 263 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:33.360 But again, they're all over the United States, and we 264 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:35.720 even have some in Canada, and they can check our 265 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:38.360 website out if you google Heavy Metal Summer Experience you'll 266 00:11:38.360 --> 00:11:38.799 find us. 267 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:41.679 And you're also looking for hosts as well, not just 268 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:44.600 in participants, but you're looking for people and companies that 269 00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:46.960 will host these camps. 270 00:11:47.000 --> 00:11:49.159 True, true, And like, for example, I just talked to 271 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:51.559 somebody in Vista. They have actually have a high school 272 00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:54.039 in Vista that does do welding, which I thought was 273 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:56.399 very exciting. They'd like to do a summer camp there, 274 00:11:56.440 --> 00:11:59.120 and Vista is I think, I think it's northeast. 275 00:11:58.480 --> 00:11:59.240 Of San Diego. 276 00:11:59.559 --> 00:12:01.240 So we're going to work on trying to see if 277 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:03.840 we can make that work for the folks and have 278 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:05.759 them be a host next summer. But we are looking 279 00:12:05.799 --> 00:12:08.840 for host contractors or training centers to help us with that. 280 00:12:09.559 --> 00:12:12.559 We don't provide actually run the camp. We support them 281 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:14.919 with all the resources to run the camp, and we 282 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:17.799 kind of handhold them the first summer. And I'll tell 283 00:12:17.799 --> 00:12:20.000 you the thing is, we get pretty much one hundred 284 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:23.039 percent return from the host. So if I had fifty 285 00:12:23.080 --> 00:12:25.559 one camps this summer, I'll start with fifty one next summer, 286 00:12:25.559 --> 00:12:27.559 and then I'll probably add another twenty or thirty. 287 00:12:27.639 --> 00:12:29.399 So we're busy. 288 00:12:29.600 --> 00:12:32.559 Well, that's great, And listen, this is an exciting thing 289 00:12:32.679 --> 00:12:36.000 because I'm a huge proponent of this kind of work. 290 00:12:36.039 --> 00:12:39.399 I'm a huge proponent of this kind of availability of 291 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:43.000 this work for kids because we turned away from it 292 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:45.840 for so long that we're starting to see the effects 293 00:12:45.879 --> 00:12:48.120 of that. Where you know, people don't know how to 294 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:50.320 if people don't even know how to fix stuff around 295 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:53.399 their own house, and you'd be willing to you know, 296 00:12:53.440 --> 00:12:56.039 you're going to pay several hundred bucks, and if you're 297 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:58.279 on the receiving end of that several hundred bucks, good 298 00:12:58.279 --> 00:12:58.559 for you. 299 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:02.000 And this is a good way to do it, Angie go. 300 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:02.720 It's not that. 301 00:13:02.759 --> 00:13:05.120 Hard to change out your garbage disposal. I mean, if 302 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:07.159 if you know, if you've learned a little bit of things, 303 00:13:07.159 --> 00:13:09.039 but instead of having to hire somebody to do it, 304 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:10.360 so I do think. 305 00:13:10.440 --> 00:13:12.480 I do think it's time for us to slowly think 306 00:13:12.679 --> 00:13:14.639 change a little bit. I'm a mechanical engineer. I went 307 00:13:14.639 --> 00:13:17.440 to college here in California, but but I still think 308 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:19.759 it's so important that so many kids this is what 309 00:13:19.759 --> 00:13:21.879 you need them to do. And if you know, look 310 00:13:21.919 --> 00:13:23.480 at our website if you want to help this. We 311 00:13:23.559 --> 00:13:25.440 also would be happy to accept any. 312 00:13:25.240 --> 00:13:28.120 Donations anybody give us. So, Garry, thank you for having 313 00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:29.519 me on. I really appreciate. 314 00:13:29.639 --> 00:13:29.759 Well. 315 00:13:29.759 --> 00:13:31.919 One personal question is where'd you go to college? 316 00:13:32.080 --> 00:13:34.960 Yes, I went to cal Poly and San Luis obispo Oh. 317 00:13:36.799 --> 00:13:42.320 Yeah, my father graduated from cal Poly. My daughter just 318 00:13:42.399 --> 00:13:45.080 graduated last summer from from cal polyly. 319 00:13:44.919 --> 00:13:47.919 So that's my and my son graduated from cal Poly. 320 00:13:48.039 --> 00:13:51.039 So that's good. We got the connection. So that's and 321 00:13:51.080 --> 00:13:51.399 there's a. 322 00:13:51.559 --> 00:13:53.559 There's a college just hands on, hands on that we 323 00:13:53.720 --> 00:13:56.000 learned by doing, so they really do stressed. I took 324 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:57.039 the welding class at cal. 325 00:13:56.960 --> 00:13:59.919 Polic that's literally their their slogan is learned by doing. 326 00:14:00.440 --> 00:14:02.960 Yeah it is, and I was terrible at welding. I 327 00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:03.840 learned that really quick. 328 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:09.200 Well, it's an absolute pleasure to meet you, Angie, and 329 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:11.399 we wish you the best of luck with Heavy Metal 330 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:14.200 Summer Experience again. If you want information about it, go 331 00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:18.120 to h M s E dot org Heavy Metal Summer 332 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:20.519 Experience h M s E dot org with all the 333 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:23.399 information about the current camps that are going on this summer, 334 00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:26.879 about future camps that are there, and encourage your kids 335 00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:27.639 to get involved. 336 00:14:27.679 --> 00:14:31.120 Angie, thank you, Jerry, thank you so much for having 337 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:32.360 me and I love you helping them and get. 338 00:14:32.240 --> 00:14:32.720 The word out. 339 00:14:32.759 --> 00:14:34.000 Absolutely, we'll talk again. 340 00:14:34.039 --> 00:14:36.240 I promise this is It's too good of a program 341 00:14:36.279 --> 00:14:39.120 to ignore, all right, Angie, I'm their executive director, co 342 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:42.559 founder of Heavy Metal Summer Experience h M s E 343 00:14:42.759 --> 00:14:43.399 dot org. 344 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:48.759 You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 345 00:14:49.039 --> 00:14:50.200 AM six forty. 346 00:14:51.679 --> 00:14:51.840 Well. 347 00:14:51.879 --> 00:14:54.039 As we get closer to Memorial Day, more on our 348 00:14:54.080 --> 00:14:57.759 news and Bruis tomorrow in Lancaster coming up. But weekend 349 00:14:57.840 --> 00:15:01.120 travel is expected to break the travel more than forty 350 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:05.759 five million people expected to hit the roads between today 351 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:09.480 and Monday. Triple A projects forty five point one million 352 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:12.639 people traveling at least fifty miles from home during that 353 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:14.960 four day period. That would be an increase of one 354 00:15:15.039 --> 00:15:18.080 point four million from last year. Were still short of 355 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:21.360 the record. They said the previous Memorial Day travel record 356 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:25.279 was two thousand and five. They said forty four million 357 00:15:25.360 --> 00:15:28.440 people were on the road. We were just talking with 358 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:31.799 Angie Simon, executive director and co founder of that great 359 00:15:31.840 --> 00:15:36.000 program called Heavy Metal Summer Experience, about getting kids involved 360 00:15:36.039 --> 00:15:36.600 in the trades. 361 00:15:36.639 --> 00:15:38.919 Hey, Ared, just to let you know, my daughter is 362 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:43.039 part of this program where she's actually graduating this June 363 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:48.600 at sixteen, but yet she's a cybersecurity expert and she's 364 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:52.759 already got a job that's yeah, paying over three hundred 365 00:15:52.840 --> 00:15:56.639 thousand dollars a year now she's just sixteen, and they 366 00:15:56.639 --> 00:15:59.120 will pay for her schooling too if she wants it. 367 00:15:59.200 --> 00:16:00.840 That's a that's a good start. 368 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:03.399 Hey, Gary, this was great. Yeah, my son was one 369 00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:08.519 of those. He was JC and got a welding certificate, 370 00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:11.879 certified welding and all. He's working for one company now 371 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:15.960 knocking down seventy five bucks an hour. It's really good 372 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:18.360 college eight for everybody. 373 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:21.360 Yeah, seventy five bucks an hour and then probably more 374 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:25.039 for overtime. So that's that's well into the trip six 375 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:26.120 figure salary. 376 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:29.399 What's up, Gary, flying fish out here at the airport Fish. 377 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:33.039 I love that trade segment you just had you. And 378 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:36.559 another thing about the trades. If you're a convicted felling 379 00:16:36.679 --> 00:16:39.559 or whatever, they're leanient to that. Try to have a 380 00:16:39.600 --> 00:16:42.600 convicted fill and become a police officer or a lawyer 381 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:43.200 or whatever. 382 00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:44.840 And it's probably been done. 383 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:47.559 But at the same time, I know because I'm part 384 00:16:47.559 --> 00:16:50.519 of that, but I'm making excellent money out here at 385 00:16:50.559 --> 00:16:51.799 the Airport Electrical. 386 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:54.240 Love you Baby, talk to you. Thanks Fish. 387 00:16:54.919 --> 00:16:58.039 Yeah, it's one of those one of those paths that 388 00:16:58.519 --> 00:17:01.679 has not been well worn recently. We need to start 389 00:17:01.720 --> 00:17:05.440 getting kids down that path. So the Associated Press comes 390 00:17:05.440 --> 00:17:09.480 out with a story regarding Kamala Harris. Many of her 391 00:17:09.519 --> 00:17:12.920 supporters and detractors thinks the think that she'd have better 392 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:16.599 odds running for governor than rather than running for president 393 00:17:16.799 --> 00:17:20.319 for what would be a third time, if you can 394 00:17:20.359 --> 00:17:24.279 believe that, and they discuss why she might want to 395 00:17:24.839 --> 00:17:28.559 run for governor and why she might not. So I 396 00:17:28.599 --> 00:17:31.400 have not been keeping up with the Gavin Newsom podcast, 397 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:35.000 but apparently he recently had Mark Halprin on there, who 398 00:17:35.119 --> 00:17:38.119 a longtime NBC reporter who's got his own podcast, which 399 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:42.160 is really fantastic, by the way, and he sat down 400 00:17:42.240 --> 00:17:45.640 with Mark Halprin Gavin Newsom did on the Gavin Newsom 401 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:50.960