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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Dankpla Show. Please be sure to give

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<v Speaker 1>us a five star rating if you'd be so kind,

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to the Dan Kapla Show, but obviously you're

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<v Speaker 2>not hearing Dan today. You've got Sheriff Steve Riims from

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<v Speaker 2>Weld County, Colorado that's filling in, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it's almost like someone's giving me the keys to Dan's

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<v Speaker 2>old corvette. I'm driving this big, fancy hot rod here

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<v Speaker 2>at the K House Studios, and it's a little overwhelming,

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you, because you know, I tune

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<v Speaker 2>in as often as I can. I try to listen

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<v Speaker 2>to Dan. I try to listen to Ryan almost daily,

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<v Speaker 2>So sitting in the seat is it's kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>big deal to me. I don't even know how to

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<v Speaker 2>put it other than that it feels like the studio

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<v Speaker 2>is really hot right now, but that's all fun.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it has the lowest temperature setting in there.

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<v Speaker 3>I do that intentionally for myself, but I'll make sure

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<v Speaker 3>Kelly'll come in right now.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's good. I'm just I'm playing around. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it is an honor to be filling in for Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he's got some important work going this week,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll try to make sure we make the show

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<v Speaker 2>as exciting as possible, but also keep it on the rails.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest. When Dan texted last week saying that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he'd like for me to potentially do some

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<v Speaker 2>fill in work, I thought, well, he'd maybe had a

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<v Speaker 2>head injury, he'd maybe been in a car crash. I

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<v Speaker 2>was thinking, you know, the guy's baby, he's drunk. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. But a couple of days go by and

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<v Speaker 2>he texts me again and says, here's some dates. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you think? And apparently he recovered from his head

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<v Speaker 2>injury and still decided that this was a good idea.

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<v Speaker 2>So here we are. I'm filling in. We've got a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of guests lined up for today and tomorrow because

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna have to deal with me for that day too.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously, as a law enforcement officer, as I said

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of Ryan Show, there are some things

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<v Speaker 2>that interest me and they probably interest you as well,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if you live in the state of Colorado. We're

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with a barrage of gun legislation that's hit this

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<v Speaker 2>state for the last I don't know, ten years, probably

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<v Speaker 2>twenty thirteen when the magazine ban started, So I guess

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<v Speaker 2>twelve years now. Gosh, it goes by so fast. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess that's what happens when you're having a good time.

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<v Speaker 2>But on top of that, we've had a giant shift

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<v Speaker 2>in the way that this state operates when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to dealing with criminals. We've almost we've almost villainized law enforcement,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've made the criminals the victims of the system.

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<v Speaker 2>And I say that as a law enforcement officer because

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<v Speaker 2>I never thought the table would be so tilted in

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<v Speaker 2>the favor of the criminal, and yet here we are.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to talk a little bit of that,

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<v Speaker 2>how that slide happened. And you can't talk about all

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<v Speaker 2>this shift in the environment surrounding Colorado, and I guess

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<v Speaker 2>the lack of following the law without talking about how

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<v Speaker 2>it happened. We lost power as Republicans at the state House,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Democrats gave us exactly what we didn't want.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to talk. We're going to talk politics.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk Republican politics. And we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>have a guest on here pretty quickly who some of

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<v Speaker 2>you may have heard of. You may know him through

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<v Speaker 2>some social media circles, but he's a young man. He

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<v Speaker 2>truly does represent the beginning of that next wave of

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans and he's the new GOP chairman in Weld County.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're going to love hearing from the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He's young, he's energetic, he's got a lot of great ideas,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's he's already moved himself up to a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>high level in Republican politics. We're going to have Lauren

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<v Speaker 2>Boward on a little later in the show. We'll have

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<v Speaker 2>a candidate for sheriff in Wild County. I have an

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<v Speaker 2>expiration date. My term expires in one year, nine months,

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<v Speaker 2>in eighteen days. At anyone's county say it isn't so, Steve,

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<v Speaker 2>It's coming to an end. And I'm okay with that.

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<v Speaker 2>At twelve years as sheriff is enough, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>the fifteen years before that is as a person inside

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<v Speaker 2>the agency. That stacks up to quite a bit of time.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to have Matt Turner on. He's going

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you about his run for sheriff and kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the eye opening experience that's been not only in

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<v Speaker 2>jumping into the realm of politics, but also going down

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<v Speaker 2>to the State House and testifying on some bills and

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<v Speaker 2>just seeing what that tone is down at the State

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<v Speaker 2>House as it pertains to Republicans, as it pertains to

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<v Speaker 2>gun laws, but mostly as it pertains to law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're also going to have State Rep. Ryan armagust

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<v Speaker 2>On again later in the show. He is a gun

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<v Speaker 2>fighter down at the I say that figuratively, not literally,

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<v Speaker 2>but if given the opportunity, he probably wouldn't shy away

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<v Speaker 2>from a gunfight to defend good men and women here

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<v Speaker 2>in this state. But he's going to come on and

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<v Speaker 2>talk a little bit about some of the same stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've got a heavy show ahead of us. It's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a great time. But before we start

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<v Speaker 2>bringing on any of these guests, I kind of want

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<v Speaker 2>to set the stage with what's been happening with the

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<v Speaker 2>GOP in the state of Colorado. We've had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of chairm and races that have come and gone over

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<v Speaker 2>the last two years. We've got this heated mess that's

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<v Speaker 2>happening right now with I think five or six candidates

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<v Speaker 2>that are running to replace Dave Williams. But really where

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<v Speaker 2>the start and end of all of this what i'll

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<v Speaker 2>call topsy turvy stuff in the state of Colorado is

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<v Speaker 2>through this last couple of years with the Republican Party,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's under the leadership of Dave Williams. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>trying to take a side on either one either way,

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<v Speaker 2>but Dave Williams definitely is a lightning rod and he's

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<v Speaker 2>done some things that no other party chairman has done

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<v Speaker 2>in the past. He's endorsed candidates during the primary, He's

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<v Speaker 2>run for office himself. There's some questions about where some

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<v Speaker 2>of the state funding went. And most recently, he got

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<v Speaker 2>very involved in the Weld County process for picking our

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<v Speaker 2>new leadership and picking our new delegates to go to

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<v Speaker 2>the state reorganization meeting. So that really impacted the way

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<v Speaker 2>our new party chairman got elected. And I have to

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<v Speaker 2>set that up so that he can tell his story

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<v Speaker 2>when he it's on the air. Quite frankly, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>head scratcher as to how we got here as a

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<v Speaker 2>Republican Party. We went from a state that has probably

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<v Speaker 2>always been purple, but we had some influence in this

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<v Speaker 2>state as Republicans, not just statewide but county, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at the county level and at the city level, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's just a few bastions of hope that are still

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<v Speaker 2>hanging on by a thread. Weald County is still strongly read.

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<v Speaker 2>Elpaso County is still pretty red. There's a few others,

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<v Speaker 2>Mason County on the western slope, I think Jefferson is lost,

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<v Speaker 2>and several others. So we're really trying to hold on

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<v Speaker 2>to those strongholds and build from there. And we have

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<v Speaker 2>a young man that's he's a great building block for

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<v Speaker 2>Weald County in my opinion, as a young man and

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<v Speaker 2>a figuratively and literally coming into the party. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's got a new vision for where Republicans can go.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm so excited to see a seed change that

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully will start in Welld County and kind of grow

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<v Speaker 2>its way across the state of color. Autumn, there's been

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<v Speaker 2>pockets of hope. I think Weld County is still that

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<v Speaker 2>pocket of hope. We flipped some seats ced eight. Gabe

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<v Speaker 2>Evans took a seat that started up blue and turned

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<v Speaker 2>it red, and we took a Senate district thirteen seat

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<v Speaker 2>that had gone blue, it's back to red. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the HD fifty seat that had been blue forever and

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<v Speaker 2>it finally went red. That's the area that if you

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<v Speaker 2>live in northern Colorado, you know it surrounds UNC. It's

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<v Speaker 2>right there around the college and it's been a blue

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<v Speaker 2>stronghold until this last session. And we finally got a

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<v Speaker 2>young man in there, Hispanic man, Ryan Gonzalez, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>doing a great job. So it's great to just see

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<v Speaker 2>that that seed change happen and just start seeing a

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<v Speaker 2>different influence down at the State House. Ryan, Am I

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<v Speaker 2>seeing this right? There's a caller on the line.

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<v Speaker 3>We're working on that behind the scenes. But I do

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<v Speaker 3>have a question for you before we go to break.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't answer it however you would like. But after

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<v Speaker 3>twelve years, there's the sheriff in Wild County. I've had

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<v Speaker 3>some off air conversations exchanges with you about what might

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<v Speaker 3>be next for you. Would you consider a run in

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<v Speaker 3>politics for another office or is this something where you

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<v Speaker 3>might just kind of stay on the sidelines right off

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<v Speaker 3>into the sunset and do your own thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I would never rule everything completely out, but

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<v Speaker 2>I am not That's not where my focus is. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>with the Trump administration, there's some potential opportunities there, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm exploring where that might lead. But you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to figure out what I want to be when

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<v Speaker 2>I grow up in one year, nine months, in eighteen days.

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<v Speaker 4>Fair enough?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, as as anybody who's been in politics

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<v Speaker 2>can tell you, it ages you in dog years. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you're in politics and you're a sheriff, it ages

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<v Speaker 2>you tenfold. I feel like I'm I look like I'm seventy,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm only forty nine. So go with that. It

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<v Speaker 2>looks like we have Hunter Rivera on the line. Now, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to go to break. As soon as we

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<v Speaker 2>come back from break, we'll get with Hunter Rivera. And

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<v Speaker 2>he's a phenomenal young man. You're gonna love hearing what

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<v Speaker 2>he has to deliver. I'm just so proud to see

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<v Speaker 2>a new wave coming into Weld County and I think

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<v Speaker 2>I think Hunter is going to do a fantastic job

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<v Speaker 2>in leading the Weld County GOP in a new and

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<v Speaker 2>aggressive direction.

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<v Speaker 5>And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>What a song to come back to? On The Dan

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<v Speaker 2>Kapla Show, You're listening to Steve Reams today. I'm filling

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<v Speaker 2>in for Dan, but that is one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>songs and it was even before I got into law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that was the Swan song and the call in

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<v Speaker 2>something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, which one do you prefer, Sheriff the Clashes version

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<v Speaker 3>that you just heard or the original Bobby Fuller for.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually prefer the Bobby Fuller version, Okay, but I

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<v Speaker 2>like this one too.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll have that one when we come back from the

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<v Speaker 5>next break.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds great. So before we went to break, I

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of preluding what we were going to be

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<v Speaker 2>talking about in this segment, and that's the new Well

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<v Speaker 2>County GOP chairman. For the rest of you around the state,

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<v Speaker 2>you say, yeah, what about the Weld County GOP chairman

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't affect me, But it really does. You know, we

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<v Speaker 2>had a new wave of leadership coming into the to

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<v Speaker 2>the GOP, and if we're going to talk about where

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<v Speaker 2>we can go in the future, we need young faces,

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<v Speaker 2>we need young ideas, and Hunter represents that. So with

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<v Speaker 2>us on the line is Hunter Rivera, the newly elected

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<v Speaker 2>GOP chairman for Weld County. Hunter, thanks for being with us.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, thanks, for having me on.

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<v Speaker 2>Sir, you bet Hunter, Before we get started, I got

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<v Speaker 2>an email a few days ago, and it's from a

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<v Speaker 2>little known organization called Rhino Watch. And in that in

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<v Speaker 2>that email, it gave basically, like a few subtitles are heading,

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<v Speaker 2>it said, well, County Rhinos refused to let dozens of

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<v Speaker 2>Trump volunteers into their so called big tent, crazed by

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Derange derangement syndrome. And then it goes down It's

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<v Speaker 2>not Dave they hate, it's you. And then another section

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<v Speaker 2>forty volunteers turned down. And then the last the last

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<v Speaker 2>section calls out several elected officials who allegedly revealed themselves

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<v Speaker 2>to be rhinos, one of those including myself on the list,

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<v Speaker 2>which I find comical. I've been called everything under the

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<v Speaker 2>sun working in law enforcement for twenty seven years, and

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<v Speaker 2>I've spent several of those years working in a jail.

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<v Speaker 2>Rhino is the least of my concerns. But Hunter, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think I can put all this to words, probably

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<v Speaker 2>nearly as clearly as you can, because you actually faced

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<v Speaker 2>the fire, you went through. You went to helen back

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<v Speaker 2>in order to become our new GOP chairman. So first

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<v Speaker 2>tell us a little bit about your background, why you

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<v Speaker 2>got involved in Republican politics, and then we'll set up

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I guess the first wave that I got

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<v Speaker 4>involved into politics came from actually your predecessor as sheriff

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<v Speaker 4>Sheriff John Cook when he became a state senator and

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<v Speaker 4>buying my class to come down to the capitol when

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<v Speaker 4>I was in high school back in twenty sixteen, seventeen

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<v Speaker 4>somewhere in there. That was an awesome experience. Remember going

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<v Speaker 4>to the state Capitol, never had been there before, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, this is awesome. You know, this is what

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<v Speaker 4>was something bigger than myself, you know, being involved with

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<v Speaker 4>with the state politics, and so I knew that was

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<v Speaker 4>something I wanted to be a part of. Back in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty, I think most folks in Windsor and Wealth

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<v Speaker 4>County know that I stupidly ran for mayor at the

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<v Speaker 4>age of eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say stupidly, Hunter, It wasn't stupidly. You were

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<v Speaker 2>a young man and you were on a mission, so

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<v Speaker 2>you ran for Windsor mayor. You didn't win, but you

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<v Speaker 2>got involved and that's okay, yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 4>And then it just kind of became a natural progression

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<v Speaker 4>of being more and more involved with Republican politics. My

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<v Speaker 4>real first big campaign that I was involved with was

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<v Speaker 4>I got hired by the Colorado State GUP slash RNC

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<v Speaker 4>to work on Barb Kirkmeyer's campaign back in twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 4>Ended up doing a lot of work on that campaign.

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<v Speaker 4>We were one of the most effective grassroots organizing teams

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<v Speaker 4>in the entire country for Barb's campaign, and as everybody knows,

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<v Speaker 4>we came about fifteen hundred votes short. It really really

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<v Speaker 4>hurt two years ago. Back in after the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 4>two elections, you know, it was kind of like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>my gosh, I don't know what went wrong exactly. I

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<v Speaker 4>felt like we did all the right things, and so

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<v Speaker 4>I kind of looked around and I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>my county party. Raised my hand and said, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I want to be the vice chair of the World

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<v Speaker 4>GOP and running for that back in twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 4>or for the twenty twenty four cycle. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>my goals were clear I said, we're going to flip

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<v Speaker 4>these five seats that you mentioned in the segment before

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<v Speaker 4>we went out, and we did that. We went out,

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<v Speaker 4>we flipped those five seats, and I felt given a

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<v Speaker 4>good track record after the twenty twenty four election, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I feel very strongly that we need to keep Wealth

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<v Speaker 4>County red. We need to keep we have three competitive seats.

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<v Speaker 4>They are going to be up for election here in

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<v Speaker 4>two years, and I feel very strongly that we need

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<v Speaker 4>to keep those. So, you know, given our success and

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<v Speaker 4>given that goal in mind, I decided to throw my

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<v Speaker 2>So that's where things got really interesting, because, like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>you've been heavily involved, You've been working with several campaigns.

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<v Speaker 2>You were one of the boots on the ground kind

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<v Speaker 2>of guys. So you throw your name in the hat

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<v Speaker 2>that you're going to run for gopachair and we have

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<v Speaker 2>our standard meeting up in Weld County and eaton Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>It's noticed, it's scheduled properly, and it's being conducted by

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<v Speaker 2>our former chairman, and tell the listeners kind of what

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<v Speaker 2>happened in that process.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, I mean The basic thing is that every

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<v Speaker 4>county has to hold these meetings that in the very

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<v Speaker 4>beginning of February. We sent out to our folks. In

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<v Speaker 4>early January, we're going to hold this meeting. About a

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<v Speaker 4>week after I sent out notice that we were going

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<v Speaker 4>to hold our meeting and what day it was going

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<v Speaker 4>to be on, we got a email from the state

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<v Speaker 4>Party chair. There was no heads up, no phone call

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<v Speaker 4>to us, no nothing, and it was a list of

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<v Speaker 4>over twenty different names of people that the state chair

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to appoint as precinc Committee folks. Precing committee folks

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<v Speaker 4>are of course members of our Central Committee and we'd

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<v Speaker 4>get to vote on new leadership that we'd be considering.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was a bit of a blind side from

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<v Speaker 4>the state Party chair. We went in, we looked at

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<v Speaker 4>the applicable laws and when our by laws and Robert

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<v Speaker 4>Rules of Order said, and we made the determination that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, state lasses, we have to consider these people.

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<v Speaker 4>We put them on our agenda. And as far as

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<v Speaker 4>we were concerned, by putting them on the agenda and

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<v Speaker 4>considering them, we satisfied the you know, the intent.

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<v Speaker 6>Of the law.

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<v Speaker 4>And there were some individuals within our county, including the

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<v Speaker 4>state GOP, which did not agree with us just simply

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<v Speaker 4>putting it on our agenda, right, So we put.

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<v Speaker 2>Those individuals on the agenda, I say, we, the County

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<v Speaker 2>Party put those individuals on the agenda to be considered.

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<v Speaker 2>The voting body overwhelmingly said no, we don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>add these people in at the last minute to be

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<v Speaker 2>voters in our next process, and so we moved on.

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<v Speaker 2>We elected all our new leadership for the party and

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<v Speaker 2>we all left and did our thing.

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<v Speaker 4>And then what happened, well, then after that we ended

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<v Speaker 4>up getting about a week after our elections had happened.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, I think it was the Tuesday after we

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<v Speaker 4>got this beautiful decision from the State GOP which basically said, nope,

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<v Speaker 4>your elections are Nolan void. You guys didn't do this properly,

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<v Speaker 4>and the State GOP was going to come in and

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<v Speaker 4>basically hold a meeting no matter what. Now, normally when

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<v Speaker 4>it comes to controversies, and we had added controversy with

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<v Speaker 4>the State GOP before this concerning our Central Committee meeting

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<v Speaker 4>which I appealed and we never it's not going before

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<v Speaker 4>the SEC. So you know, Chairman Williams broke bylaws by

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<v Speaker 4>not hearing my appeal on their first decision, but in

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<v Speaker 4>his second decision he sent to us, which caused the

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<v Speaker 4>second meeting that we just held here at the beginning

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<v Speaker 4>of March. You know, he said that even if I

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<v Speaker 4>appealed his second decision, that he was still going to

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<v Speaker 4>do this meeting no matter what. I mean, they were

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<v Speaker 4>just absolutely going to steamerroll Well County and just not

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<v Speaker 4>even give us a say in what was going on.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think from there, you know, me and the

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<v Speaker 4>executive team that did get elected in February, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we kind of got together and developed a strateg and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, really kind of worked with the state GOP

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<v Speaker 4>and kind of forced their hand on some stuff so

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<v Speaker 4>that way we could have some say in how this

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<v Speaker 4>meeting was going to be conducted, because yeah, at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, they were just absolutely going to steamroll us,

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<v Speaker 4>and Weld County was being so utterly disrespected throughout this

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<v Speaker 4>entire process. I mean, there was no chance for me

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<v Speaker 4>to appeal. I felt like when I led my case

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<v Speaker 4>the first time, you know, I didn't get very far

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<v Speaker 4>with it, and the second time, when they made the

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<v Speaker 4>second decision which invalidated our meeting, we weren't even invited

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<v Speaker 4>to the meeting to give our side of the story.

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<v Speaker 4>It was just it was done in a closed door

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<v Speaker 4>meeting and we were left out.

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<v Speaker 2>But the short of it is, Hunter, you've been elected

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<v Speaker 2>to the GOP chair position twice now because in your

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<v Speaker 2>second run you won by an even larger margin because

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<v Speaker 2>your opponent dropped out. So yeah, when it's all said

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<v Speaker 2>and done, you know, and the history books are written

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<v Speaker 2>in Weld County politics or talked about, you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the youngest chairman we've ever elected, and we elected

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<v Speaker 2>you twice. Tell the listeners what is your age right now?

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<v Speaker 4>I am twenty two years old. And just to put

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<v Speaker 4>it into perspective for some folks because I know you

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<v Speaker 4>mentioned it before with Ryan Gonzalez's race. So last time

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<v Speaker 4>we flipped house dister fifty I think I was only

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<v Speaker 4>about seven months old, went from Republican the Democrat, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, twenty two years later we were.

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<v Speaker 6>Able to flip that deep.

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<v Speaker 2>Hunter, thanks for being on with us. You're listening to

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<v Speaker 2>the Dan Kapla Show and we'll be back right after

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<v Speaker 2>the break.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're back at the Dan Caplis show here and

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<v Speaker 2>you got Steve Riams filling in Weld County Sheriff. It's

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<v Speaker 2>great that you have Lauren Bobert. Some music cued up.

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<v Speaker 2>That is her walk up song. I'm sure for every

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<v Speaker 2>baseball game she plays. Lauren is truly one of those

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<v Speaker 2>warriors in Washington, d C. And I'm so glad that

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<v Speaker 2>we had a few conversations. We'll say a few months

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<v Speaker 2>back when ken Buck finally decided to quit disgracing CD

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<v Speaker 2>four and leave the seat, and Lauren decided, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's time to move my family relocate, and she came

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<v Speaker 2>to Windsor, Colorado, and decided she was going to take

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<v Speaker 2>over that seat, or at least run for that seat,

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<v Speaker 2>challenge for that seat, and it wasn't even close. She

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<v Speaker 2>dusted the competition. So with us next, I think she's

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<v Speaker 2>on the line. Congresswoman Lauren Bobert, how are.

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<v Speaker 7>You doing steam. I'm so happy that you were filling

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<v Speaker 7>in today, And You're right. I did decide I was

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<v Speaker 7>taking over Colorado's fourth District. It was never much of

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<v Speaker 7>a will I win. I have traveled the state of

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<v Speaker 7>Colorado for five years now to date, and I've been

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<v Speaker 7>earning the trust of voters all throughout our seat and

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<v Speaker 7>now as the most senior republic representing Colorado, I have

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<v Speaker 7>represented fifty three of our sixty four counties in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 7>And so if there's anyone who knows what it's like

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<v Speaker 7>to represent our rural constituents, our ad community, our farmers,

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<v Speaker 7>so much more.

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<v Speaker 6>It is me.

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<v Speaker 7>And I'm so honored to.

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<v Speaker 6>Be trusted to be in a physician.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm honored that you and I are on a

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<v Speaker 2>list together that I don't know if you got to

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<v Speaker 2>listen to the previous segment when I was talking with

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<v Speaker 2>our new GOP chairman, but you and I made the

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<v Speaker 2>elected officials reveal themselves to be rhinos. Chapter in the latest.

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<v Speaker 7>Rhino Watch, when the rhino hunters become the rhinos.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, I think it's kind of ironic that you

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<v Speaker 2>and I are on a list of rhinos. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>sure whatever, call me what you want, but you're at

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<v Speaker 2>if that makes you worse or better.

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<v Speaker 7>Sheriff I put myself is better than you, but I'm

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<v Speaker 7>at the top of the limbs. But here's the deal.

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<v Speaker 7>I've been I've been in the room with the anonymous

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<v Speaker 7>Rhino Watch author a couple of times now and have

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<v Speaker 7>called this author out directly I to eye, saying, as

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<v Speaker 7>Colorado's self proclaimed rhino hunter, I don't give a rip

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<v Speaker 7>what you have to say about me. The tactics that

427
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<v Speaker 7>are going on right now are are not right, they

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<v Speaker 7>are not just. And if you were only going to

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<v Speaker 7>look at the person of Dave Williams and say, if

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<v Speaker 7>you defy our state party chair, you are there for

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<v Speaker 7>a rhino, well, then that is an effective and inaccurate

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<v Speaker 7>Because unfortunately Dave Williams, whom I endorsed in his congressional primary.

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<v Speaker 6>God blessed Jeff Crank.

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<v Speaker 7>He's now my colleague, and you know, I've had multiple

435
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<v Speaker 7>conversations and he and I work very well together other

436
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<v Speaker 7>and understands those dynamics. But I endorse Dave Williams as

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<v Speaker 7>the congressional nominee for District five. Unfortunately, where he lacked

438
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<v Speaker 7>was his campaign.

439
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<v Speaker 6>First of all, you have to put in the works.

440
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<v Speaker 6>You can't just.

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<v Speaker 7>Sit back and say, well, I have the Trump endorsement,

442
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<v Speaker 7>so I don't need to do anything else like that.

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<v Speaker 7>That's not right, and you cannot then then for go

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<v Speaker 7>proceed and and desimate every other congressional candidate who is

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<v Speaker 7>the nominee. Look gave Evans, he went through the assembly

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<v Speaker 7>process the one top line, and the state party spent

447
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<v Speaker 7>money against him and never came out and supported him

448
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<v Speaker 7>in the general.

449
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<v Speaker 6>So you know that that just hurt our assembly process.

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<v Speaker 7>And if if if that's what it means to take.

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<v Speaker 6>Out a rhino, fine, so be it. But or to

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<v Speaker 6>be a.

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<v Speaker 7>Rhino, I guess is what it is, what they're saying

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<v Speaker 7>it is.

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<v Speaker 6>I let them say whatever they're going to say.

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<v Speaker 7>I sleep well at night. I know I'm fighting for

457
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<v Speaker 7>the country and sheriff, so are you well?

458
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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of you fighting for the country, you know I

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<v Speaker 2>get your updates, I get your email from your staff,

460
00:23:12.279 --> 00:23:15.599
<v Speaker 2>and you know, I'm sure some of the people know this.

461
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<v Speaker 2>But if you do have that mantra of rhino, it's

462
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<v Speaker 2>definitely not earned. Because is it not true that you've

463
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<v Speaker 2>introduced a bill to do away with the ATF.

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<v Speaker 7>Jariff, I have indeed introduced the bill to defund the ATF.

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<v Speaker 7>I want the ATF abolish. This is unconstitutional, as are

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<v Speaker 7>many federal government agencies.

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<v Speaker 6>And this is.

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<v Speaker 7>One that I have solely put my name to saying

469
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<v Speaker 7>this must be done away with. If we're going to

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<v Speaker 7>go forward and protect the Second Amendment, then we need

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<v Speaker 7>to get not only the federal government out of the

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<v Speaker 7>way with their unconstitutional agencies who have particularly are armed

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<v Speaker 7>cartels with thousands of unmarked firearms, but also we need

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<v Speaker 7>to put the states in check. If we are truly

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<v Speaker 7>constitutional and saying we abide by the Tenth Amendment and

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<v Speaker 7>say the states have constitutional direction of their states, well,

477
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<v Speaker 7>we have to look further to the Constitution that says, well,

478
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<v Speaker 7>we have this Bill of Rights that clearly states all

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<v Speaker 7>of these things belong to the people and not to

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<v Speaker 7>any government.

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<v Speaker 6>And so the Tenth Amendment.

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<v Speaker 7>Never allows a state to come in and override the Constitution.

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<v Speaker 7>And what unfortunately many on the left, many liberals, many Democrats,

484
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<v Speaker 7>have interpreted that as is, oh, well, the tenth Amendment

485
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<v Speaker 7>says we can regulate the Second Amendment.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, if that's.

487
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<v Speaker 7>True, then they can regulate the nineteenth Amendment, they can regulate.

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<v Speaker 6>The thirteenth, the fourteenth, first, the.

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<v Speaker 4>Fourth, all of them.

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<v Speaker 7>And so this is where we come up in a

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<v Speaker 7>quandary of saying, well, what is constitutional law, what is

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<v Speaker 7>a law land? And the Second Amendment is a long

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<v Speaker 7>land and share frames.

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<v Speaker 6>You are Colorado's sheriff.

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<v Speaker 7>You were against red flag laws, and I applaud you greatly.

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<v Speaker 6>For that, and I hope that your.

497
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<v Speaker 7>Career it continues honestly because of that alone, because you

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<v Speaker 7>cherish the Second Amendment right of American citizens.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's why this bill caught my attention. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've dealt with a lot of three letter federal agencies,

501
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<v Speaker 2>and I oftentimes have four letter words to describe some

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<v Speaker 2>of them, and the ATF is oftentimes one of those

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't find them being very helpful in catching criminals,

504
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<v Speaker 2>but I do find them very regulatory and trying to

505
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<v Speaker 2>deal with people who are law abiding citizens that are

506
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<v Speaker 2>oftentimes trying to figure out how to, you know, just

507
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<v Speaker 2>exercise their Secondmendment right. So that doesn't mean that they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have some righteous cases from time to time, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think those cases could be worked by other federal

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<v Speaker 2>agencies or local law enforcement. To that extent. We're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about three things that the ATF represents that are all legal, alcohol, tobacco,

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<v Speaker 2>and firearms. If you're going to use any of those.

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<v Speaker 6>Things, we name a corner store, gas station.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, exactly. So if those things are going to

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<v Speaker 2>be legal, if something goes haywire and a crime occurs

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<v Speaker 2>involving any of those things, I think local law enforcement

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<v Speaker 2>or FBI whomever could have jurisdiction to do that, and

518
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<v Speaker 2>we save the taxpayers a ton of money and a

519
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<v Speaker 2>ton of headache. And to top this off, your bill

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<v Speaker 2>is beautiful. It's the shortest bill I think I've ever

521
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<v Speaker 2>seen because it's right to the point, do away with ATF.

522
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<v Speaker 2>It's that simple. I love it.

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<v Speaker 6>That's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 7>We don't need one hundred pages to do away with

525
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<v Speaker 7>the ATF.

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<v Speaker 6>We don't need one hundred.

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<v Speaker 7>Pages to defund the ATF. And also, sheriff, to your point,

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<v Speaker 7>I've been described as a four letter word a time.

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<v Speaker 6>Or two, and so I get it. Yeah, we get this.

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<v Speaker 6>And and also may I just.

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<v Speaker 7>Add on a side note, you sound very common proper

532
00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:15.839
<v Speaker 7>on the radio, and I do want listeners to know

533
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<v Speaker 7>this is like a bad a sheriff that we have

534
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<v Speaker 7>in Colorado. And uh so don't take his voices, you

535
00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:26.720
<v Speaker 7>know something that's just like someone who can be shoved.

536
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<v Speaker 6>Shoved the side because because.

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<v Speaker 7>You are seriously one of our toughest sheriffs in Colorado.

538
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<v Speaker 6>And I commend you, But the ATS and so.

539
00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:41.400
<v Speaker 7>Many other agencies have overreached and really have have just

540
00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:44.599
<v Speaker 7>infringed on so many of our rights. And and it's

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<v Speaker 7>time that we do away with those and withdraw that

542
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<v Speaker 7>federal funding from them, UH, so we can we can

543
00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:53.759
<v Speaker 7>be better stewards of our tax dollars and uh and

544
00:27:54.279 --> 00:27:57.640
<v Speaker 7>really allow local government to do what it should do.

545
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<v Speaker 7>And and and police are saying, and counties the way

546
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<v Speaker 7>that the Constitution gives right to there's no one that

547
00:28:05.400 --> 00:28:08.960
<v Speaker 7>does it better than our counties and cities, our local government.

548
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<v Speaker 7>My job is to get federal government out of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>It couldn't be said better.

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<v Speaker 4>Control.

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<v Speaker 2>It couldn't be said better. We're coming up on the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the segment, but I do want to give

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<v Speaker 2>you one last opportunity before we go to break. You

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<v Speaker 2>said you've confronted that person from the Rhino Watch, the

555
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<v Speaker 2>Rhinal Watch author. Would you like to name that person

556
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:31.480
<v Speaker 2>before you go off the air or you want to

557
00:28:31.559 --> 00:28:33.960
<v Speaker 2>just do that on your own time, on your own dime.

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<v Speaker 7>You know there there's certainly a few that are involved

559
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<v Speaker 7>in that publication, and there is one of the few

560
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<v Speaker 7>that I have confronted. And I think the people who

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<v Speaker 7>are familiar with that publication will know the toothless person

562
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<v Speaker 7>that I'm referencing. You know, it is it is unfortunate

563
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<v Speaker 7>that someone who can sympathize with school shooters, who can

564
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<v Speaker 7>go into the Republican Party and remain remain a member

565
00:29:05.880 --> 00:29:09.839
<v Speaker 7>and even even a prominent member of the Republican Party

566
00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:16.039
<v Speaker 7>by proxy, uh to make such wide accusations. Now, there

567
00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:20.519
<v Speaker 7>are other portions like listen, like the honey badgery report

568
00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:23.920
<v Speaker 7>in the in the Rhino Watch public publication. Look, that's

569
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<v Speaker 7>Mark Hampton. He is wide open saying.

570
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<v Speaker 6>This is me.

571
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<v Speaker 7>He's not high, not anonymous. I love Mark Hampton, I

572
00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:36.720
<v Speaker 7>love Pam Hampton. They're wonderful people representing Parker, Colorado, in

573
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<v Speaker 7>Douglas County, and and they do call it as they

574
00:29:39.599 --> 00:29:42.759
<v Speaker 7>see it, but they are not disgusting and vile, and

575
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<v Speaker 7>they do not lie as far as I have seen.

576
00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:49.720
<v Speaker 7>And and so you know, these are people that I'm like, Okay,

577
00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:52.559
<v Speaker 7>what you say, fine, let it out to the people.

578
00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:56.640
<v Speaker 7>But when when you Sheriff reems And and me and

579
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<v Speaker 7>Lauren Bobert are called rhinos in Colorado, I mean, that's

580
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:03.880
<v Speaker 7>just really going beyond the pale. I don't want to

581
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<v Speaker 7>give them much more credit than they deserve because.

582
00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:11.119
<v Speaker 6>They're not credible. But you know, they have.

583
00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:14.039
<v Speaker 7>A sliver of an audience that gives them a little

584
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:17.559
<v Speaker 7>bit of accolade and make them feel important, so you know,

585
00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:20.279
<v Speaker 7>they keep doing what they're doing. But this is not

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<v Speaker 7>a credible source of media. And I would continue to

587
00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:29.640
<v Speaker 7>listen to our radio shows on k and US and

588
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:34.359
<v Speaker 7>local media and even the podcasts that are nationally broadcast,

589
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:39.279
<v Speaker 7>because that's where I get my most informative news from

590
00:30:39.839 --> 00:30:42.440
<v Speaker 7>the folks who are really digging in and getting the information,

591
00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:48.200
<v Speaker 7>not being biased, sometimes sharing their opinion, but certainly being fair.

592
00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:51.160
<v Speaker 7>And Sheriff, I think.

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<v Speaker 4>We have a lot of work to do in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 7>We're seeing trende or Ragua taken out. I hope John

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<v Speaker 7>Fabricatory gets a position here soon in the Department of

596
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<v Speaker 7>Homeland Security. I've been talking with a Borders are Tom

597
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:10.359
<v Speaker 7>Homan about that because he was once a border a

598
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:14.079
<v Speaker 7>border patrol director for WYOM and Colorado, and I hope

599
00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:17.359
<v Speaker 7>he gets picked up again, and I hope he continue

600
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<v Speaker 7>to gain momentum throughout now and the midterm elections, because

601
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:25.559
<v Speaker 7>remember Colorado, Trump is not going to be at the

602
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:27.480
<v Speaker 7>top of our ticket in.

603
00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:28.559
<v Speaker 6>The midterm elections.

604
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<v Speaker 7>It is going to be a governor and senator candidate

605
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:36.519
<v Speaker 7>in Colorado, and we know that Colorado has gone severely blue,

606
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:40.279
<v Speaker 7>so we have to pay severe attention and ensure that

607
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<v Speaker 7>we are getting the vote out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Lauren, as always, you brought the fire, you brought

609
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:47.359
<v Speaker 2>the you brought the brought the heat, and we appreciate it. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for coming on the show, Thanks for being on

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<v Speaker 2>the Dan Kapla Show, and we look forward to having

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<v Speaker 2>you on again real soon. Thanks again, Lauren Bobert, congress

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<v Speaker 2>Folman for.

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<v Speaker 4>The fourth ceded.

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<v Speaker 5>And now back to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast.

616
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<v Speaker 2>But I had a radio show for a little while

617
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<v Speaker 2>up in northern Colorado and this was the show that

618
00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:12.400
<v Speaker 2>we always heard the song that we always kicked the

619
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<v Speaker 2>show off too. So this is like old home there

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<v Speaker 2>it is. You're with the Dan Capless Show. You got

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<v Speaker 2>Sheriff Steve Riams filling in. It's an honor and a

622
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:22.920
<v Speaker 2>pleasure to be here. You know, this big, big chair

623
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<v Speaker 2>to fill when Dan's not around. So again, a little overwhelming,

624
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<v Speaker 2>but I've got the keys to the corvette we're taking

625
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:30.960
<v Speaker 2>out for a hot lap and we haven't hit the

626
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<v Speaker 2>wall yet, but we're going to get close. So we're

627
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<v Speaker 2>almost we're almost done with this hour, but I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to get to a few things here. Let's go to

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<v Speaker 2>the text wall. So I got a couple from Alexa.

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<v Speaker 2>She says, Sheriff Frames is in the seat looking forward

631
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<v Speaker 2>to this. She may not be now, and then a

632
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<v Speaker 2>little later she says, Sheriff Frames is on my list

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<v Speaker 2>of people I would clone if I could, Great great leader. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how many people would agree with Alex

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<v Speaker 2>on that one. I know my wife certainly couldn't take

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<v Speaker 2>another one of me around, so she's probably going to

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<v Speaker 2>vote that down. And then I had another texter said,

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<v Speaker 2>what happened to Weld County being on on Patrol live?

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<v Speaker 2>For some of you that watched that show, it was

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<v Speaker 2>a good experience. We kind of tipped our toe in

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<v Speaker 2>it a little bit as an agency. And I had

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<v Speaker 2>a little skepticism because sometimes you don't know if those

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<v Speaker 2>shows are truly live, if they're really if they're really

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<v Speaker 2>playing to the audience, or they're trying to script some

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<v Speaker 2>things out. And I think the show was very honest

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<v Speaker 2>in the way they covered us. They weren't They definitely

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<v Speaker 2>weren't accustomed to how big Weld County is. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>four thousand square mile county. So when you want to

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<v Speaker 2>go on Patrol live, sometimes you were watching a drive

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<v Speaker 2>for fifteen or twenty minutes, So that's a challenge. And

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<v Speaker 2>then on top of that, we had some issues with

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<v Speaker 2>some of the other agencies that were being highlighted on

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<v Speaker 2>the TV show. I did personally. I just I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>think they practiced good policing techniques and I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>being bumped up against those agencies. You know, you'd go

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<v Speaker 2>to some agency down in the South where they're chasing

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<v Speaker 2>someone over a busted tail light, crashing up cars and

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<v Speaker 2>putting people in danger, and then we're, you know, out

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<v Speaker 2>handling a shooting incident, you know, and trying to do

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<v Speaker 2>things the right way. It's not to say that there's

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<v Speaker 2>not one hundred different ways to do law enforcement. I

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<v Speaker 2>just like to think that we try to do it

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<v Speaker 2>best by the citizens, and the show just wasn't giving

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<v Speaker 2>us the look that we really wanted. But I want

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<v Speaker 2>to encourage people to keep texting in Our text number

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<v Speaker 2>is five seven seven three nine. Start your text off

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<v Speaker 2>with Dan, or you can call in, which is three

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<v Speaker 2>O three seven one three eight two fivey five. That's

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<v Speaker 2>three O three seven one three eight two five five.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a couple of callers that we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>try to get to in the opening segment of the

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<v Speaker 2>next hour. We'll start off with that, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're just going to try to see where this whole

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<v Speaker 2>show takes us. I certainly wasn't expecting some of the

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<v Speaker 2>fire that Congresswoman Lauren Bobert brought, but she described the

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<v Speaker 2>person who she thinks is the brains behind Rhino Watch,

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<v Speaker 2>and she called him a big, toothless person. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that I don't know if I got it exactly right accurate, though,

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<v Speaker 2>but I would encour urage any of you text in

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<v Speaker 2>or call in if you think you know who she's describing,

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<v Speaker 2>because that can give us another topic of debate. To

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<v Speaker 2>tell you that the Rhino Watch thing has gotten a

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<v Speaker 2>little out of control would be an understatement, especially when

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<v Speaker 2>Lauren and I make the same list. So with that,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see you in the next hour. You're listening to

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<v Speaker 2>the Dan Kaplas Show right here,