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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Dan Kapla Show, but obviously you're
Speaker 2: not hearing Dan today. You've got Sheriff Steve Riims from
Speaker 2: Weld County, Colorado that's filling in, and I feel like
Speaker 2: it's almost like someone's giving me the keys to Dan's
Speaker 2: old corvette. I'm driving this big, fancy hot rod here
Speaker 2: at the K House Studios, and it's a little overwhelming,
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, because you know, I tune
Speaker 2: in as often as I can. I try to listen
Speaker 2: to Dan. I try to listen to Ryan almost daily,
Speaker 2: So sitting in the seat is it's kind of a
Speaker 2: big deal to me. I don't even know how to
Speaker 2: put it other than that it feels like the studio
Speaker 2: is really hot right now, but that's all fun.
Speaker 3: I think it has the lowest temperature setting in there.
Speaker 3: I do that intentionally for myself, but I'll make sure
Speaker 3: Kelly'll come in right now.
Speaker 2: No, it's good. I'm just I'm playing around. But you know,
Speaker 2: it is an honor to be filling in for Dan.
Speaker 2: I know he's got some important work going this week,
Speaker 2: and we'll try to make sure we make the show
Speaker 2: as exciting as possible, but also keep it on the rails.
Speaker 2: To be honest. When Dan texted last week saying that,
Speaker 2: you know, he'd like for me to potentially do some
Speaker 2: fill in work, I thought, well, he'd maybe had a
Speaker 2: head injury, he'd maybe been in a car crash. I
Speaker 2: was thinking, you know, the guy's baby, he's drunk. I
Speaker 2: don't know. But a couple of days go by and
Speaker 2: he texts me again and says, here's some dates. What
Speaker 2: do you think? And apparently he recovered from his head
Speaker 2: injury and still decided that this was a good idea.
Speaker 2: So here we are. I'm filling in. We've got a
Speaker 2: bunch of guests lined up for today and tomorrow because
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to deal with me for that day too.
Speaker 2: And obviously, as a law enforcement officer, as I said
Speaker 2: at the end of Ryan Show, there are some things
Speaker 2: that interest me and they probably interest you as well,
Speaker 2: especially if you live in the state of Colorado. We're
Speaker 2: dealing with a barrage of gun legislation that's hit this
Speaker 2: state for the last I don't know, ten years, probably
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen when the magazine ban started, So I guess
Speaker 2: twelve years now. Gosh, it goes by so fast. I
Speaker 2: guess that's what happens when you're having a good time.
Speaker 2: But on top of that, we've had a giant shift
Speaker 2: in the way that this state operates when it comes
Speaker 2: to dealing with criminals. We've almost we've almost villainized law enforcement,
Speaker 2: and we've made the criminals the victims of the system.
Speaker 2: And I say that as a law enforcement officer because
Speaker 2: I never thought the table would be so tilted in
Speaker 2: the favor of the criminal, and yet here we are.
Speaker 2: So we're going to talk a little bit of that,
Speaker 2: how that slide happened. And you can't talk about all
Speaker 2: this shift in the environment surrounding Colorado, and I guess
Speaker 2: the lack of following the law without talking about how
Speaker 2: it happened. We lost power as Republicans at the state House,
Speaker 2: and the Democrats gave us exactly what we didn't want.
Speaker 2: So we're going to talk. We're going to talk politics.
Speaker 2: We're going to talk Republican politics. And we're going to
Speaker 2: have a guest on here pretty quickly who some of
Speaker 2: you may have heard of. You may know him through
Speaker 2: some social media circles, but he's a young man. He
Speaker 2: truly does represent the beginning of that next wave of
Speaker 2: Republicans and he's the new GOP chairman in Weld County.
Speaker 2: I think you're going to love hearing from the guy.
Speaker 2: He's young, he's energetic, he's got a lot of great ideas,
Speaker 2: and he's he's already moved himself up to a pretty
Speaker 2: high level in Republican politics. We're going to have Lauren
Speaker 2: Boward on a little later in the show. We'll have
Speaker 2: a candidate for sheriff in Wild County. I have an
Speaker 2: expiration date. My term expires in one year, nine months,
Speaker 2: in eighteen days. At anyone's county say it isn't so, Steve,
Speaker 2: It's coming to an end. And I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2: At twelve years as sheriff is enough, and you know
Speaker 2: the fifteen years before that is as a person inside
Speaker 2: the agency. That stacks up to quite a bit of time.
Speaker 2: So we're going to have Matt Turner on. He's going
Speaker 2: to tell you about his run for sheriff and kind
Speaker 2: of the eye opening experience that's been not only in
Speaker 2: jumping into the realm of politics, but also going down
Speaker 2: to the State House and testifying on some bills and
Speaker 2: just seeing what that tone is down at the State
Speaker 2: House as it pertains to Republicans, as it pertains to
Speaker 2: gun laws, but mostly as it pertains to law enforcement.
Speaker 2: And we're also going to have State Rep. Ryan armagust
Speaker 2: On again later in the show. He is a gun
Speaker 2: fighter down at the I say that figuratively, not literally,
Speaker 2: but if given the opportunity, he probably wouldn't shy away
Speaker 2: from a gunfight to defend good men and women here
Speaker 2: in this state. But he's going to come on and
Speaker 2: talk a little bit about some of the same stuff.
Speaker 2: So we've got a heavy show ahead of us. It's
Speaker 2: going to be a great time. But before we start
Speaker 2: bringing on any of these guests, I kind of want
Speaker 2: to set the stage with what's been happening with the
Speaker 2: GOP in the state of Colorado. We've had a lot
Speaker 2: of chairm and races that have come and gone over
Speaker 2: the last two years. We've got this heated mess that's
Speaker 2: happening right now with I think five or six candidates
Speaker 2: that are running to replace Dave Williams. But really where
Speaker 2: the start and end of all of this what i'll
Speaker 2: call topsy turvy stuff in the state of Colorado is
Speaker 2: through this last couple of years with the Republican Party,
Speaker 2: and that's under the leadership of Dave Williams. I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to take a side on either one either way,
Speaker 2: but Dave Williams definitely is a lightning rod and he's
Speaker 2: done some things that no other party chairman has done
Speaker 2: in the past. He's endorsed candidates during the primary, He's
Speaker 2: run for office himself. There's some questions about where some
Speaker 2: of the state funding went. And most recently, he got
Speaker 2: very involved in the Weld County process for picking our
Speaker 2: new leadership and picking our new delegates to go to
Speaker 2: the state reorganization meeting. So that really impacted the way
Speaker 2: our new party chairman got elected. And I have to
Speaker 2: set that up so that he can tell his story
Speaker 2: when he it's on the air. Quite frankly, it's a
Speaker 2: head scratcher as to how we got here as a
Speaker 2: Republican Party. We went from a state that has probably
Speaker 2: always been purple, but we had some influence in this
Speaker 2: state as Republicans, not just statewide but county, you know,
Speaker 2: at the county level and at the city level, and
Speaker 2: there's just a few bastions of hope that are still
Speaker 2: hanging on by a thread. Weald County is still strongly read.
Speaker 2: Elpaso County is still pretty red. There's a few others,
Speaker 2: Mason County on the western slope, I think Jefferson is lost,
Speaker 2: and several others. So we're really trying to hold on
Speaker 2: to those strongholds and build from there. And we have
Speaker 2: a young man that's he's a great building block for
Speaker 2: Weald County in my opinion, as a young man and
Speaker 2: a figuratively and literally coming into the party. You know,
Speaker 2: he's got a new vision for where Republicans can go.
Speaker 2: And I'm so excited to see a seed change that
Speaker 2: hopefully will start in Welld County and kind of grow
Speaker 2: its way across the state of color. Autumn, there's been
Speaker 2: pockets of hope. I think Weld County is still that
Speaker 2: pocket of hope. We flipped some seats ced eight. Gabe
Speaker 2: Evans took a seat that started up blue and turned
Speaker 2: it red, and we took a Senate district thirteen seat
Speaker 2: that had gone blue, it's back to red. And then
Speaker 2: the HD fifty seat that had been blue forever and
Speaker 2: it finally went red. That's the area that if you
Speaker 2: live in northern Colorado, you know it surrounds UNC. It's
Speaker 2: right there around the college and it's been a blue
Speaker 2: stronghold until this last session. And we finally got a
Speaker 2: young man in there, Hispanic man, Ryan Gonzalez, and he's
Speaker 2: doing a great job. So it's great to just see
Speaker 2: that that seed change happen and just start seeing a
Speaker 2: different influence down at the State House. Ryan, Am I
Speaker 2: seeing this right? There's a caller on the line.
Speaker 3: We're working on that behind the scenes. But I do
Speaker 3: have a question for you before we go to break.
Speaker 3: You can't answer it however you would like. But after
Speaker 3: twelve years, there's the sheriff in Wild County. I've had
Speaker 3: some off air conversations exchanges with you about what might
Speaker 3: be next for you. Would you consider a run in
Speaker 3: politics for another office or is this something where you
Speaker 3: might just kind of stay on the sidelines right off
Speaker 3: into the sunset and do your own thing.
Speaker 2: You know, I would never rule everything completely out, but
Speaker 2: I am not That's not where my focus is. You know,
Speaker 2: with the Trump administration, there's some potential opportunities there, so
Speaker 2: I'm exploring where that might lead. But you know, I'm
Speaker 2: going to figure out what I want to be when
Speaker 2: I grow up in one year, nine months, in eighteen days.
Speaker 4: Fair enough?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, as as anybody who's been in politics
Speaker 2: can tell you, it ages you in dog years. But
Speaker 2: if you're in politics and you're a sheriff, it ages
Speaker 2: you tenfold. I feel like I'm I look like I'm seventy,
Speaker 2: but I'm only forty nine. So go with that. It
Speaker 2: looks like we have Hunter Rivera on the line. Now, Okay,
Speaker 2: we're going to go to break. As soon as we
Speaker 2: come back from break, we'll get with Hunter Rivera. And
Speaker 2: he's a phenomenal young man. You're gonna love hearing what
Speaker 2: he has to deliver. I'm just so proud to see
Speaker 2: a new wave coming into Weld County and I think
Speaker 2: I think Hunter is going to do a fantastic job
Speaker 2: in leading the Weld County GOP in a new and
Speaker 2: aggressive direction.
Speaker 5: And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2: What a song to come back to? On The Dan
Speaker 2: Kapla Show, You're listening to Steve Reams today. I'm filling
Speaker 2: in for Dan, but that is one of my favorite
Speaker 2: songs and it was even before I got into law enforcement.
Speaker 2: Maybe that was the Swan song and the call in
Speaker 2: something like that.
Speaker 3: Now, which one do you prefer, Sheriff the Clashes version
Speaker 3: that you just heard or the original Bobby Fuller for.
Speaker 2: I actually prefer the Bobby Fuller version, Okay, but I
Speaker 2: like this one too.
Speaker 5: I'll have that one when we come back from the
Speaker 5: next break.
Speaker 2: That sounds great. So before we went to break, I
Speaker 2: was kind of preluding what we were going to be
Speaker 2: talking about in this segment, and that's the new Well
Speaker 2: County GOP chairman. For the rest of you around the state,
Speaker 2: you say, yeah, what about the Weld County GOP chairman
Speaker 2: doesn't affect me, But it really does. You know, we
Speaker 2: had a new wave of leadership coming into the to
Speaker 2: the GOP, and if we're going to talk about where
Speaker 2: we can go in the future, we need young faces,
Speaker 2: we need young ideas, and Hunter represents that. So with
Speaker 2: us on the line is Hunter Rivera, the newly elected
Speaker 2: GOP chairman for Weld County. Hunter, thanks for being with us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks, for having me on.
Speaker 2: Sir, you bet Hunter, Before we get started, I got
Speaker 2: an email a few days ago, and it's from a
Speaker 2: little known organization called Rhino Watch. And in that in
Speaker 2: that email, it gave basically, like a few subtitles are heading,
Speaker 2: it said, well, County Rhinos refused to let dozens of
Speaker 2: Trump volunteers into their so called big tent, crazed by
Speaker 2: Dave Derange derangement syndrome. And then it goes down It's
Speaker 2: not Dave they hate, it's you. And then another section
Speaker 2: forty volunteers turned down. And then the last the last
Speaker 2: section calls out several elected officials who allegedly revealed themselves
Speaker 2: to be rhinos, one of those including myself on the list,
Speaker 2: which I find comical. I've been called everything under the
Speaker 2: sun working in law enforcement for twenty seven years, and
Speaker 2: I've spent several of those years working in a jail.
Speaker 2: Rhino is the least of my concerns. But Hunter, I
Speaker 2: don't think I can put all this to words, probably
Speaker 2: nearly as clearly as you can, because you actually faced
Speaker 2: the fire, you went through. You went to helen back
Speaker 2: in order to become our new GOP chairman. So first
Speaker 2: tell us a little bit about your background, why you
Speaker 2: got involved in Republican politics, and then we'll set up
Speaker 2: kind of your pathway to becoming our GOP chairman.
Speaker 6: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess the first wave that I got
Speaker 4: involved into politics came from actually your predecessor as sheriff
Speaker 4: Sheriff John Cook when he became a state senator and
Speaker 4: buying my class to come down to the capitol when
Speaker 4: I was in high school back in twenty sixteen, seventeen
Speaker 4: somewhere in there. That was an awesome experience. Remember going
Speaker 4: to the state Capitol, never had been there before, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, this is awesome. You know, this is what
Speaker 4: I want to be involved with. I knew that there
Speaker 4: was something bigger than myself, you know, being involved with
Speaker 4: with the state politics, and so I knew that was
Speaker 4: something I wanted to be a part of. Back in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty, I think most folks in Windsor and Wealth
Speaker 4: County know that I stupidly ran for mayor at the
Speaker 4: age of eighteen.
Speaker 2: I would say stupidly, Hunter, It wasn't stupidly. You were
Speaker 2: a young man and you were on a mission, so
Speaker 2: you ran for Windsor mayor. You didn't win, but you
Speaker 2: got involved and that's okay, yep, yep.
Speaker 4: And then it just kind of became a natural progression
Speaker 4: of being more and more involved with Republican politics. My
Speaker 4: real first big campaign that I was involved with was
Speaker 4: I got hired by the Colorado State GUP slash RNC
Speaker 4: to work on Barb Kirkmeyer's campaign back in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4: Ended up doing a lot of work on that campaign.
Speaker 4: We were one of the most effective grassroots organizing teams
Speaker 4: in the entire country for Barb's campaign, and as everybody knows,
Speaker 4: we came about fifteen hundred votes short. It really really
Speaker 4: hurt two years ago. Back in after the twenty twenty
Speaker 4: two elections, you know, it was kind of like, well,
Speaker 4: my gosh, I don't know what went wrong exactly. I
Speaker 4: felt like we did all the right things, and so
Speaker 4: I kind of looked around and I said, you know,
Speaker 4: I want to get involved a little bit more with
Speaker 4: my county party. Raised my hand and said, you know,
Speaker 4: I want to be the vice chair of the World
Speaker 4: GOP and running for that back in twenty twenty four
Speaker 4: or for the twenty twenty four cycle. And you know,
Speaker 4: my goals were clear I said, we're going to flip
Speaker 4: these five seats that you mentioned in the segment before
Speaker 4: we went out, and we did that. We went out,
Speaker 4: we flipped those five seats, and I felt given a
Speaker 4: good track record after the twenty twenty four election, you know,
Speaker 4: I feel very strongly that we need to keep Wealth
Speaker 4: County red. We need to keep we have three competitive seats.
Speaker 4: They are going to be up for election here in
Speaker 4: two years, and I feel very strongly that we need
Speaker 4: to keep those. So, you know, given our success and
Speaker 4: given that goal in mind, I decided to throw my
Speaker 4: hat in and run for GOP chair up here in
Speaker 4: Wealth County.
Speaker 2: So that's where things got really interesting, because, like you said,
Speaker 2: you've been heavily involved, You've been working with several campaigns.
Speaker 2: You were one of the boots on the ground kind
Speaker 2: of guys. So you throw your name in the hat
Speaker 2: that you're going to run for gopachair and we have
Speaker 2: our standard meeting up in Weld County and eaton Colorado.
Speaker 2: It's noticed, it's scheduled properly, and it's being conducted by
Speaker 2: our former chairman, and tell the listeners kind of what
Speaker 2: happened in that process.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean The basic thing is that every
Speaker 4: county has to hold these meetings that in the very
Speaker 4: beginning of February. We sent out to our folks. In
Speaker 4: early January, we're going to hold this meeting. About a
Speaker 4: week after I sent out notice that we were going
Speaker 4: to hold our meeting and what day it was going
Speaker 4: to be on, we got a email from the state
Speaker 4: Party chair. There was no heads up, no phone call
Speaker 4: to us, no nothing, and it was a list of
Speaker 4: over twenty different names of people that the state chair
Speaker 4: wanted to appoint as precinc Committee folks. Precing committee folks
Speaker 4: are of course members of our Central Committee and we'd
Speaker 4: get to vote on new leadership that we'd be considering.
Speaker 4: So it was a bit of a blind side from
Speaker 4: the state Party chair. We went in, we looked at
Speaker 4: the applicable laws and when our by laws and Robert
Speaker 4: Rules of Order said, and we made the determination that,
Speaker 4: you know, state lasses, we have to consider these people.
Speaker 4: We put them on our agenda. And as far as
Speaker 4: we were concerned, by putting them on the agenda and
Speaker 4: considering them, we satisfied the you know, the intent.
Speaker 6: Of the law.
Speaker 4: And there were some individuals within our county, including the
Speaker 4: state GOP, which did not agree with us just simply
Speaker 4: putting it on our agenda, right, So we put.
Speaker 2: Those individuals on the agenda, I say, we, the County
Speaker 2: Party put those individuals on the agenda to be considered.
Speaker 2: The voting body overwhelmingly said no, we don't want to
Speaker 2: add these people in at the last minute to be
Speaker 2: voters in our next process, and so we moved on.
Speaker 2: We elected all our new leadership for the party and
Speaker 2: we all left and did our thing.
Speaker 4: And then what happened, well, then after that we ended
Speaker 4: up getting about a week after our elections had happened.
Speaker 4: In fact, I think it was the Tuesday after we
Speaker 4: got this beautiful decision from the State GOP which basically said, nope,
Speaker 4: your elections are Nolan void. You guys didn't do this properly,
Speaker 4: and the State GOP was going to come in and
Speaker 4: basically hold a meeting no matter what. Now, normally when
Speaker 4: it comes to controversies, and we had added controversy with
Speaker 4: the State GOP before this concerning our Central Committee meeting
Speaker 4: which I appealed and we never it's not going before
Speaker 4: the SEC. So you know, Chairman Williams broke bylaws by
Speaker 4: not hearing my appeal on their first decision, but in
Speaker 4: his second decision he sent to us, which caused the
Speaker 4: second meeting that we just held here at the beginning
Speaker 4: of March. You know, he said that even if I
Speaker 4: appealed his second decision, that he was still going to
Speaker 4: do this meeting no matter what. I mean, they were
Speaker 4: just absolutely going to steamerroll Well County and just not
Speaker 4: even give us a say in what was going on.
Speaker 4: And I think from there, you know, me and the
Speaker 4: executive team that did get elected in February, you know,
Speaker 4: we kind of got together and developed a strateg and
Speaker 4: you know, really kind of worked with the state GOP
Speaker 4: and kind of forced their hand on some stuff so
Speaker 4: that way we could have some say in how this
Speaker 4: meeting was going to be conducted, because yeah, at the beginning,
Speaker 4: I mean, they were just absolutely going to steamroll us,
Speaker 4: and Weld County was being so utterly disrespected throughout this
Speaker 4: entire process. I mean, there was no chance for me
Speaker 4: to appeal. I felt like when I led my case
Speaker 4: the first time, you know, I didn't get very far
Speaker 4: with it, and the second time, when they made the
Speaker 4: second decision which invalidated our meeting, we weren't even invited
Speaker 4: to the meeting to give our side of the story.
Speaker 4: It was just it was done in a closed door
Speaker 4: meeting and we were left out.
Speaker 2: But the short of it is, Hunter, you've been elected
Speaker 2: to the GOP chair position twice now because in your
Speaker 2: second run you won by an even larger margin because
Speaker 2: your opponent dropped out. So yeah, when it's all said
Speaker 2: and done, you know, and the history books are written
Speaker 2: in Weld County politics or talked about, you're going to
Speaker 2: be the youngest chairman we've ever elected, and we elected
Speaker 2: you twice. Tell the listeners what is your age right now?
Speaker 4: I am twenty two years old. And just to put
Speaker 4: it into perspective for some folks because I know you
Speaker 4: mentioned it before with Ryan Gonzalez's race. So last time
Speaker 4: we flipped house dister fifty I think I was only
Speaker 4: about seven months old, went from Republican the Democrat, and
Speaker 4: you know, twenty two years later we were.
Speaker 6: Able to flip that deep.
Speaker 2: Hunter, thanks for being on with us. You're listening to
Speaker 2: the Dan Kapla Show and we'll be back right after
Speaker 2: the break.
Speaker 5: You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 2: Well, we're back at the Dan Caplis show here and
Speaker 2: you got Steve Riams filling in Weld County Sheriff. It's
Speaker 2: great that you have Lauren Bobert. Some music cued up.
Speaker 2: That is her walk up song. I'm sure for every
Speaker 2: baseball game she plays. Lauren is truly one of those
Speaker 2: warriors in Washington, d C. And I'm so glad that
Speaker 2: we had a few conversations. We'll say a few months
Speaker 2: back when ken Buck finally decided to quit disgracing CD
Speaker 2: four and leave the seat, and Lauren decided, you know,
Speaker 2: it's time to move my family relocate, and she came
Speaker 2: to Windsor, Colorado, and decided she was going to take
Speaker 2: over that seat, or at least run for that seat,
Speaker 2: challenge for that seat, and it wasn't even close. She
Speaker 2: dusted the competition. So with us next, I think she's
Speaker 2: on the line. Congresswoman Lauren Bobert, how are.
Speaker 7: You doing steam. I'm so happy that you were filling
Speaker 7: in today, And You're right. I did decide I was
Speaker 7: taking over Colorado's fourth District. It was never much of
Speaker 7: a will I win. I have traveled the state of
Speaker 7: Colorado for five years now to date, and I've been
Speaker 7: earning the trust of voters all throughout our seat and
Speaker 7: now as the most senior republic representing Colorado, I have
Speaker 7: represented fifty three of our sixty four counties in Colorado.
Speaker 7: And so if there's anyone who knows what it's like
Speaker 7: to represent our rural constituents, our ad community, our farmers,
Speaker 7: our ranchers, our energy developers, our forest service workers, and
Speaker 7: so much more.
Speaker 6: It is me.
Speaker 7: And I'm so honored to.
Speaker 6: Be trusted to be in a physician.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm honored that you and I are on a
Speaker 2: list together that I don't know if you got to
Speaker 2: listen to the previous segment when I was talking with
Speaker 2: our new GOP chairman, but you and I made the
Speaker 2: elected officials reveal themselves to be rhinos. Chapter in the latest.
Speaker 7: Rhino Watch, when the rhino hunters become the rhinos.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I think it's kind of ironic that you
Speaker 2: and I are on a list of rhinos. I mean,
Speaker 2: sure whatever, call me what you want, but you're at
Speaker 2: the top. I'm at the bottom. So I don't know
Speaker 2: if that makes you worse or better.
Speaker 7: Sheriff I put myself is better than you, but I'm
Speaker 7: at the top of the limbs. But here's the deal.
Speaker 7: I've been I've been in the room with the anonymous
Speaker 7: Rhino Watch author a couple of times now and have
Speaker 7: called this author out directly I to eye, saying, as
Speaker 7: Colorado's self proclaimed rhino hunter, I don't give a rip
Speaker 7: what you have to say about me. The tactics that
Speaker 7: are going on right now are are not right, they
Speaker 7: are not just. And if you were only going to
Speaker 7: look at the person of Dave Williams and say, if
Speaker 7: you defy our state party chair, you are there for
Speaker 7: a rhino, well, then that is an effective and inaccurate
Speaker 7: Because unfortunately Dave Williams, whom I endorsed in his congressional primary.
Speaker 6: God blessed Jeff Crank.
Speaker 7: He's now my colleague, and you know, I've had multiple
Speaker 7: conversations and he and I work very well together other
Speaker 7: and understands those dynamics. But I endorse Dave Williams as
Speaker 7: the congressional nominee for District five. Unfortunately, where he lacked
Speaker 7: was his campaign.
Speaker 6: First of all, you have to put in the works.
Speaker 6: You can't just.
Speaker 7: Sit back and say, well, I have the Trump endorsement,
Speaker 7: so I don't need to do anything else like that.
Speaker 7: That's not right, and you cannot then then for go
Speaker 7: proceed and and desimate every other congressional candidate who is
Speaker 7: the nominee. Look gave Evans, he went through the assembly
Speaker 7: process the one top line, and the state party spent
Speaker 7: money against him and never came out and supported him
Speaker 7: in the general.
Speaker 6: So you know that that just hurt our assembly process.
Speaker 7: And if if if that's what it means to take.
Speaker 6: Out a rhino, fine, so be it. But or to
Speaker 6: be a.
Speaker 7: Rhino, I guess is what it is, what they're saying
Speaker 7: it is.
Speaker 6: I let them say whatever they're going to say.
Speaker 7: I sleep well at night. I know I'm fighting for
Speaker 7: the country and sheriff, so are you well?
Speaker 2: Speaking of you fighting for the country, you know I
Speaker 2: get your updates, I get your email from your staff,
Speaker 2: and you know, I'm sure some of the people know this.
Speaker 2: But if you do have that mantra of rhino, it's
Speaker 2: definitely not earned. Because is it not true that you've
Speaker 2: introduced a bill to do away with the ATF.
Speaker 7: Jariff, I have indeed introduced the bill to defund the ATF.
Speaker 7: I want the ATF abolish. This is unconstitutional, as are
Speaker 7: many federal government agencies.
Speaker 6: And this is.
Speaker 7: One that I have solely put my name to saying
Speaker 7: this must be done away with. If we're going to
Speaker 7: go forward and protect the Second Amendment, then we need
Speaker 7: to get not only the federal government out of the
Speaker 7: way with their unconstitutional agencies who have particularly are armed
Speaker 7: cartels with thousands of unmarked firearms, but also we need
Speaker 7: to put the states in check. If we are truly
Speaker 7: constitutional and saying we abide by the Tenth Amendment and
Speaker 7: say the states have constitutional direction of their states, well,
Speaker 7: we have to look further to the Constitution that says, well,
Speaker 7: we have this Bill of Rights that clearly states all
Speaker 7: of these things belong to the people and not to
Speaker 7: any government.
Speaker 6: And so the Tenth Amendment.
Speaker 7: Never allows a state to come in and override the Constitution.
Speaker 7: And what unfortunately many on the left, many liberals, many Democrats,
Speaker 7: have interpreted that as is, oh, well, the tenth Amendment
Speaker 7: says we can regulate the Second Amendment.
Speaker 6: Well, if that's.
Speaker 7: True, then they can regulate the nineteenth Amendment, they can regulate.
Speaker 6: The thirteenth, the fourteenth, first, the.
Speaker 4: Fourth, all of them.
Speaker 7: And so this is where we come up in a
Speaker 7: quandary of saying, well, what is constitutional law, what is
Speaker 7: a law land? And the Second Amendment is a long
Speaker 7: land and share frames.
Speaker 6: You are Colorado's sheriff.
Speaker 7: You were against red flag laws, and I applaud you greatly.
Speaker 6: For that, and I hope that your.
Speaker 7: Career it continues honestly because of that alone, because you
Speaker 7: cherish the Second Amendment right of American citizens.
Speaker 2: Well, that's why this bill caught my attention. You know,
Speaker 2: I've dealt with a lot of three letter federal agencies,
Speaker 2: and I oftentimes have four letter words to describe some
Speaker 2: of them, and the ATF is oftentimes one of those
Speaker 2: because I don't find them being very helpful in catching criminals,
Speaker 2: but I do find them very regulatory and trying to
Speaker 2: deal with people who are law abiding citizens that are
Speaker 2: oftentimes trying to figure out how to, you know, just
Speaker 2: exercise their Secondmendment right. So that doesn't mean that they
Speaker 2: don't have some righteous cases from time to time, but
Speaker 2: I think those cases could be worked by other federal
Speaker 2: agencies or local law enforcement. To that extent. We're talking
Speaker 2: about three things that the ATF represents that are all legal, alcohol, tobacco,
Speaker 2: and firearms. If you're going to use any of those.
Speaker 6: Things, we name a corner store, gas station.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, exactly. So if those things are going to
Speaker 2: be legal, if something goes haywire and a crime occurs
Speaker 2: involving any of those things, I think local law enforcement
Speaker 2: or FBI whomever could have jurisdiction to do that, and
Speaker 2: we save the taxpayers a ton of money and a
Speaker 2: ton of headache. And to top this off, your bill
Speaker 2: is beautiful. It's the shortest bill I think I've ever
Speaker 2: seen because it's right to the point, do away with ATF.
Speaker 2: It's that simple. I love it.
Speaker 6: That's exactly right.
Speaker 7: We don't need one hundred pages to do away with
Speaker 7: the ATF.
Speaker 6: We don't need one hundred.
Speaker 7: Pages to defund the ATF. And also, sheriff, to your point,
Speaker 7: I've been described as a four letter word a time.
Speaker 6: Or two, and so I get it. Yeah, we get this.
Speaker 6: And and also may I just.
Speaker 7: Add on a side note, you sound very common proper
Speaker 7: on the radio, and I do want listeners to know
Speaker 7: this is like a bad a sheriff that we have
Speaker 7: in Colorado. And uh so don't take his voices, you
Speaker 7: know something that's just like someone who can be shoved.
Speaker 6: Shoved the side because because.
Speaker 7: You are seriously one of our toughest sheriffs in Colorado.
Speaker 6: And I commend you, But the ATS and so.
Speaker 7: Many other agencies have overreached and really have have just
Speaker 7: infringed on so many of our rights. And and it's
Speaker 7: time that we do away with those and withdraw that
Speaker 7: federal funding from them, UH, so we can we can
Speaker 7: be better stewards of our tax dollars and uh and
Speaker 7: really allow local government to do what it should do.
Speaker 7: And and and police are saying, and counties the way
Speaker 7: that the Constitution gives right to there's no one that
Speaker 7: does it better than our counties and cities, our local government.
Speaker 7: My job is to get federal government out of your life.
Speaker 2: It couldn't be said better.
Speaker 4: Control.
Speaker 2: It couldn't be said better. We're coming up on the
Speaker 2: end of the segment, but I do want to give
Speaker 2: you one last opportunity before we go to break. You
Speaker 2: said you've confronted that person from the Rhino Watch, the
Speaker 2: Rhinal Watch author. Would you like to name that person
Speaker 2: before you go off the air or you want to
Speaker 2: just do that on your own time, on your own dime.
Speaker 7: You know there there's certainly a few that are involved
Speaker 7: in that publication, and there is one of the few
Speaker 7: that I have confronted. And I think the people who
Speaker 7: are familiar with that publication will know the toothless person
Speaker 7: that I'm referencing. You know, it is it is unfortunate
Speaker 7: that someone who can sympathize with school shooters, who can
Speaker 7: go into the Republican Party and remain remain a member
Speaker 7: and even even a prominent member of the Republican Party
Speaker 7: by proxy, uh to make such wide accusations. Now, there
Speaker 7: are other portions like listen, like the honey badgery report
Speaker 7: in the in the Rhino Watch public publication. Look, that's
Speaker 7: Mark Hampton. He is wide open saying.
Speaker 6: This is me.
Speaker 7: He's not high, not anonymous. I love Mark Hampton, I
Speaker 7: love Pam Hampton. They're wonderful people representing Parker, Colorado, in
Speaker 7: Douglas County, and and they do call it as they
Speaker 7: see it, but they are not disgusting and vile, and
Speaker 7: they do not lie as far as I have seen.
Speaker 7: And and so you know, these are people that I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 7: what you say, fine, let it out to the people.
Speaker 7: But when when you Sheriff reems And and me and
Speaker 7: Lauren Bobert are called rhinos in Colorado, I mean, that's
Speaker 7: just really going beyond the pale. I don't want to
Speaker 7: give them much more credit than they deserve because.
Speaker 6: They're not credible. But you know, they have.
Speaker 7: A sliver of an audience that gives them a little
Speaker 7: bit of accolade and make them feel important, so you know,
Speaker 7: they keep doing what they're doing. But this is not
Speaker 7: a credible source of media. And I would continue to
Speaker 7: listen to our radio shows on k and US and
Speaker 7: local media and even the podcasts that are nationally broadcast,
Speaker 7: because that's where I get my most informative news from
Speaker 7: the folks who are really digging in and getting the information,
Speaker 7: not being biased, sometimes sharing their opinion, but certainly being fair.
Speaker 7: And Sheriff, I think.
Speaker 4: We have a lot of work to do in Colorado.
Speaker 7: We're seeing trende or Ragua taken out. I hope John
Speaker 7: Fabricatory gets a position here soon in the Department of
Speaker 7: Homeland Security. I've been talking with a Borders are Tom
Speaker 7: Homan about that because he was once a border a
Speaker 7: border patrol director for WYOM and Colorado, and I hope
Speaker 7: he gets picked up again, and I hope he continue
Speaker 7: to gain momentum throughout now and the midterm elections, because
Speaker 7: remember Colorado, Trump is not going to be at the
Speaker 7: top of our ticket in.
Speaker 6: The midterm elections.
Speaker 7: It is going to be a governor and senator candidate
Speaker 7: in Colorado, and we know that Colorado has gone severely blue,
Speaker 7: so we have to pay severe attention and ensure that
Speaker 7: we are getting the vote out.
Speaker 2: Well, Lauren, as always, you brought the fire, you brought
Speaker 2: the you brought the brought the heat, and we appreciate it. Hey,
Speaker 2: thanks for coming on the show, Thanks for being on
Speaker 2: the Dan Kapla Show, and we look forward to having
Speaker 2: you on again real soon. Thanks again, Lauren Bobert, congress
Speaker 2: Folman for.
Speaker 4: The fourth ceded.
Speaker 5: And now back to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast.
Speaker 2: But I had a radio show for a little while
Speaker 2: up in northern Colorado and this was the show that
Speaker 2: we always heard the song that we always kicked the
Speaker 2: show off too. So this is like old home there
Speaker 2: it is. You're with the Dan Capless Show. You got
Speaker 2: Sheriff Steve Riams filling in. It's an honor and a
Speaker 2: pleasure to be here. You know, this big, big chair
Speaker 2: to fill when Dan's not around. So again, a little overwhelming,
Speaker 2: but I've got the keys to the corvette we're taking
Speaker 2: out for a hot lap and we haven't hit the
Speaker 2: wall yet, but we're going to get close. So we're
Speaker 2: almost we're almost done with this hour, but I wanted
Speaker 2: to get to a few things here. Let's go to
Speaker 2: the text wall. So I got a couple from Alexa.
Speaker 2: She says, Sheriff Frames is in the seat looking forward
Speaker 2: to this. She may not be now, and then a
Speaker 2: little later she says, Sheriff Frames is on my list
Speaker 2: of people I would clone if I could, Great great leader. Look,
Speaker 2: I don't know how many people would agree with Alex
Speaker 2: on that one. I know my wife certainly couldn't take
Speaker 2: another one of me around, so she's probably going to
Speaker 2: vote that down. And then I had another texter said,
Speaker 2: what happened to Weld County being on on Patrol live?
Speaker 2: For some of you that watched that show, it was
Speaker 2: a good experience. We kind of tipped our toe in
Speaker 2: it a little bit as an agency. And I had
Speaker 2: a little skepticism because sometimes you don't know if those
Speaker 2: shows are truly live, if they're really if they're really
Speaker 2: playing to the audience, or they're trying to script some
Speaker 2: things out. And I think the show was very honest
Speaker 2: in the way they covered us. They weren't They definitely
Speaker 2: weren't accustomed to how big Weld County is. It's a
Speaker 2: four thousand square mile county. So when you want to
Speaker 2: go on Patrol live, sometimes you were watching a drive
Speaker 2: for fifteen or twenty minutes, So that's a challenge. And
Speaker 2: then on top of that, we had some issues with
Speaker 2: some of the other agencies that were being highlighted on
Speaker 2: the TV show. I did personally. I just I didn't
Speaker 2: think they practiced good policing techniques and I don't like
Speaker 2: being bumped up against those agencies. You know, you'd go
Speaker 2: to some agency down in the South where they're chasing
Speaker 2: someone over a busted tail light, crashing up cars and
Speaker 2: putting people in danger, and then we're, you know, out
Speaker 2: handling a shooting incident, you know, and trying to do
Speaker 2: things the right way. It's not to say that there's
Speaker 2: not one hundred different ways to do law enforcement. I
Speaker 2: just like to think that we try to do it
Speaker 2: best by the citizens, and the show just wasn't giving
Speaker 2: us the look that we really wanted. But I want
Speaker 2: to encourage people to keep texting in Our text number
Speaker 2: is five seven seven three nine. Start your text off
Speaker 2: with Dan, or you can call in, which is three
Speaker 2: O three seven one three eight two fivey five. That's
Speaker 2: three O three seven one three eight two five five.
Speaker 2: We've got a couple of callers that we're going to
Speaker 2: try to get to in the opening segment of the
Speaker 2: next hour. We'll start off with that, and you know,
Speaker 2: we're just going to try to see where this whole
Speaker 2: show takes us. I certainly wasn't expecting some of the
Speaker 2: fire that Congresswoman Lauren Bobert brought, but she described the
Speaker 2: person who she thinks is the brains behind Rhino Watch,
Speaker 2: and she called him a big, toothless person. I think
Speaker 2: that I don't know if I got it exactly right accurate, though,
Speaker 2: but I would encour urage any of you text in
Speaker 2: or call in if you think you know who she's describing,
Speaker 2: because that can give us another topic of debate. To
Speaker 2: tell you that the Rhino Watch thing has gotten a
Speaker 2: little out of control would be an understatement, especially when
Speaker 2: Lauren and I make the same list. So with that,
Speaker 2: we'll see you in the next hour. You're listening to
Speaker 2: the Dan Kaplas Show right here,