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<v Speaker 1>You see something's going to happen. What's gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 2>I think?

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<v Speaker 3>What's up? Everybody? Welcome back to another Sunday trialogus. I

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<v Speaker 3>am joined by not just my two co hosts, but

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<v Speaker 3>also I guess we've got Nick from the occult Rejacs

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<v Speaker 3>here today. So uh, it's gonna be a great show.

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<v Speaker 3>We got Ricardo back and we got to eat then,

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<v Speaker 3>So guys, why don't you go out, go ahead and

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<v Speaker 3>introduce yourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Ricardo, go ahead, Oh, good morning. My name is nicardoo

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<v Speaker 1>my take on axes. As you can see in the screen,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to plug in the etat philosophy and

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<v Speaker 1>our great podcast presented by Jacqueline and Sarah. They got

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<v Speaker 1>him here, you got him.

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<v Speaker 3>We were just commenting on this. He's uh, he's got

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<v Speaker 3>internet issues.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Ethan, Well, I'm glad that we got Nick

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<v Speaker 2>here because he's responsible for bringing the three of us

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<v Speaker 2>together ultimately.

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<v Speaker 4>So thank you Nick for everything.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, I'm easy to find on all the social media,

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<v Speaker 2>writing frequently and so on and so forth. Appreciate everybody. Ricardo,

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<v Speaker 2>you cut out if you're if you're still there.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, So where did I cut out?

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<v Speaker 3>It's a two.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so plugging in the Institute Financial Philosophy and our

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<v Speaker 1>podcast presented by Sarah and Jacqueline. That is the Universe

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<v Speaker 1>Unveiled that you can find on YouTube and on X two.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's it.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, Thank you, go ahead, Nick Yeah, Nick from

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<v Speaker 5>the Occult Rejects available and Bitch You Rumble YouTube and

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<v Speaker 5>all major podcasts.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you very Marsa.

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<v Speaker 3>And you guys know me. I'm the Headless Giant. You

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<v Speaker 3>can find me at the Headless Giant on X and

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<v Speaker 3>on YouTube obviously. And if you have any sort of

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<v Speaker 3>weird occult stories, I'd love to get them, so send

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<v Speaker 3>them to the Headless Giant podcast at gmail dot com

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<v Speaker 3>and we'll read those on Thursdays. So, now that we're

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<v Speaker 3>doing the trialogues, I think this is more of a tetralogue.

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<v Speaker 3>You can call it a quadrilog, but I like tetralogue better.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's got stuff to bring Ethan? Did you have something?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>I had a couple of ideas. Oh please recard it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I just want to say one thing, So to

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<v Speaker 1>stop these issues, I'm going to move into the desk

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<v Speaker 1>and connect by cable so it solves the problem. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be off for two minutes or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Okay, I'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, one thing I was thinking of is the overall

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<v Speaker 2>atmosphere that is similar to nineteen eighty four, but more

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<v Speaker 2>technological effectively and less severe. But one of the elements

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<v Speaker 2>from nineteen eighty four is the memory hole right where

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<v Speaker 2>actually Winston Smith the main character. His whole job among

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<v Speaker 2>many of his co workers is to rewrite and delete information.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think often that doesn't happen overtly that we

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<v Speaker 2>see right pertaining to any number of conspiratorial subjects or

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<v Speaker 2>controversial circumstances. We don't see it overtly eliminated, but it

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<v Speaker 2>definitely is less arranged by a conversation and more by

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<v Speaker 2>algorithm of course, right with the social media companies kind

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<v Speaker 2>of control over information distribution, or rather what becomes important,

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<v Speaker 2>what goes viral. And another thing I know that everyone

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<v Speaker 2>has noticed before. I've heard other people talking about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I wonder maybe we could come up with a

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<v Speaker 2>phrase for this circumstance. But they'll be like this whole

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<v Speaker 2>uh you know, controversial uh subject. When you look into stargate,

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<v Speaker 2>it's this whole uh intelligence operation, you know, and then

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<v Speaker 2>also now it's a renamed project with AI, so when

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<v Speaker 2>you look into it, you get what is the topical

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<v Speaker 2>new subject or several different movie titles will be something

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<v Speaker 2>that's like a hut thing that people like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you get get a shadow band for talking about, or

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<v Speaker 2>like it's it's this, it's got a good term.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got a good term. So instead of memory holding,

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<v Speaker 3>it's attention holding. They're attention holding you. That was actually

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<v Speaker 3>good enough too.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, go ahead, yeah, no, well there's this it's an

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<v Speaker 2>element of the information steering that I that all of

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<v Speaker 2>us see again, I've heard people talking about it, and

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<v Speaker 2>and the attention hole is a suitable phrase for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Certainly they'll they'll literally even like the term oligarchy. Like

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<v Speaker 2>for a while there they didn't, they didn't do this

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<v Speaker 2>fictionalization idea with it. But whenever it was said, it

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<v Speaker 2>was in reference to a Russian rich person. Well, there's

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of oligarchical behavior going on in the United States

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<v Speaker 2>and elsewhere in the world besides Russia, but for quite

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<v Speaker 2>some time it was if you heard that o word,

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<v Speaker 2>it was in reference to a wealthy Russian oligarch, which,

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<v Speaker 2>again not to say that they don't exist and don't

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<v Speaker 2>have fault in the world, but they're among the many oligarchs.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, attention hole, I think nails it.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. But that's how language changes too, Like over time,

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<v Speaker 3>people will get attention hold into a certain way of

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<v Speaker 3>thinking and then pretty soon that way of thinking pretty

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<v Speaker 3>much dies off with their generation. So, for example, the

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<v Speaker 3>word okay right, this was created in the eighteen thirties,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was from this fashion at the time where

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<v Speaker 3>they would misspell the words by using a letter that

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<v Speaker 3>was like the letter that began the word. So okay

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<v Speaker 3>actually comes from the word all and correct, and so

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<v Speaker 3>they put those together and it created okay because they

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<v Speaker 3>replaced the A with an O and the C with

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<v Speaker 3>a K. I don't know why they were doing that,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was in a It was in a newspaper article,

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<v Speaker 3>and they had whole columns like this. It was like

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<v Speaker 3>their gossip column was just all misspelled on purpose to

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<v Speaker 3>create these sort of weird effects. And so all correct

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<v Speaker 3>came out with this neutral version which is okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And wasn't remember it was a okay for a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of times, right.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>What does it mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Though?

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<v Speaker 3>Like, do any of these you know it's It's one

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<v Speaker 3>of those things where if you sit down and think

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<v Speaker 3>about it for a second, it's just like, what is okay?

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<v Speaker 1>What is that?

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<v Speaker 3>That's the question everybody asks each other too, what you know,

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<v Speaker 3>are you okay? What does that even mean? You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's kind of strange. It's definitely a sign of attention holding,

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<v Speaker 3>because you know, it wouldn't have taken off at all

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<v Speaker 3>if they didn't have newspapers, you know, and the newspaper

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<v Speaker 3>influenced people to start using this weird version, and then

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<v Speaker 3>something basically without any meaning has been passed on generation

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<v Speaker 3>after generation, and lots of words are lost too. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I can start naming words from you know, the early

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<v Speaker 3>part of the century that just don't get used anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the word perfidy. Do you know what perfecty means?

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<v Speaker 6>I've heard it before, actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it difficult or tense?

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<v Speaker 3>It means disloyal. So if you think about the the

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<v Speaker 3>marine logo, it's a semper fidelus. Perfidy is like not

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<v Speaker 3>being loyal, So fidels would mean forever loyal, and perfect fidels.

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<v Speaker 4>Means not loyal.

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<v Speaker 3>It's only loyal if you're getting something back, So perfidy

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<v Speaker 3>is kind of that interesting mix and it's gone. Nobody

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<v Speaker 3>even uses it or knows what it means, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>a perfect term to go along with a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>shit that we see in our society today. People only

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<v Speaker 3>have loyalty based as far as you know what they're

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<v Speaker 3>getting out of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, way, that's all become transactional.

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<v Speaker 2>There's very little even consideration of honor. And even when

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<v Speaker 2>I might bring that up, it's like almost like what

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<v Speaker 2>who talks about that? What are you talking about? But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>beyond that, I think principles, If you hold your principles,

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<v Speaker 2>then you don't get swayed by all these steerings. I

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<v Speaker 2>think as much. But I don't think that that is

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<v Speaker 2>as commonplace of a kind of philosophical philosophical perspective as

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<v Speaker 2>much as like partisanship is principle, you know, partisanship is

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<v Speaker 2>more attractive. I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, in nineteen eighty four they were kind of saying

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<v Speaker 3>that if you can eliminate the words that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>communicate these ideas, then you can eliminate those ideas as well.

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<v Speaker 3>And that kind of happens every generation. Like we're losing

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<v Speaker 3>tons of words, we're getting tons of words, maybe that

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<v Speaker 3>attention idea. You know, not everybody can be focused on

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of things, but if you can get everybody

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<v Speaker 3>focused generally in one direction, you can eliminate a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of ideas from the mix.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's a great point of this, the simplification and

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<v Speaker 2>elimination of language leading to a redundancy of thinking, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we see this in the education trend over

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<v Speaker 2>the last many decades in the United States and probably globally,

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<v Speaker 2>that people are not using big vocabulary as much as

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<v Speaker 2>they might have in the past. And certainly like if

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<v Speaker 2>you communicate with young people nowadays, it's like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I hate to sound like my elder generation, but what

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<v Speaker 2>do you what are you even talking about? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like low key like you keep what what? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, just a lot of the redundancy and

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<v Speaker 2>inability to communicate. I think it is becoming more and

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<v Speaker 2>more stark.

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<v Speaker 3>Brain rot. Brain rot became its own language within a year.

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<v Speaker 3>And now you know, kids are kind of speaking that

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<v Speaker 3>back and forth with each other, no cap and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>all that other stuff type shit, you know, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>just nothing but brain rot now. So it's it's like

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<v Speaker 3>a whole new vocabulary, a whole new lex con and people.

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<v Speaker 2>Are making none of it is. None of it is

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<v Speaker 2>like really meaningful. It's just like there's a term for it,

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<v Speaker 2>I forget, but it's just like uh words words that

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<v Speaker 2>are just add ons without much meaning.

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<v Speaker 3>Color.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it is it enriching to our language. It isn't.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's why it's called bray rot.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's a decline in the ability to to

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps not in the ability to communicate, because these people

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<v Speaker 1>are clearly managing to communicate through this shortened and more

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<v Speaker 1>simple way of speaking for them, at least, because I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't understand it for sure. I still have trouble with

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<v Speaker 1>the like OMG and all of those things that we

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<v Speaker 1>used today, like I just learned yesterday, And that makes

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<v Speaker 1>me probably it's stupid the meaning of goat, because I've

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<v Speaker 1>been hearing on the trip that I made with communication

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<v Speaker 1>between even the cameraman, and I didn't understand what they mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was something of the trade or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that, and then I realized that it's the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>of all time or something like that. Right, goat, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the goat. I thought it is the expiratory guy because

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<v Speaker 1>that's what the goat means. It's or to me, at least,

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<v Speaker 1>it was what the goat means. It's a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>takes the fall, it's a guy that takes the blame.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's the goat. But apparently now he has a

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<v Speaker 1>different meaning.

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<v Speaker 3>That's interesting. Sarah brings up six to seven. So six

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<v Speaker 3>seven is now a meme and it comes from really

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<v Speaker 3>really esoteric sources, like some guy mentioned how tall this

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<v Speaker 3>other guy was, and the expression on his face carried

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<v Speaker 3>a certain type of feeling that they translated into a meme.

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<v Speaker 3>But who has time to map all these things out,

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, but there are people defending then. For instance, emogies

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<v Speaker 1>So it's all interesting in terms of language communication. I

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<v Speaker 1>Well, most people considered, most academics considered that language came

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<v Speaker 3>It makes sense. You got to you gotta move goods

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<v Speaker 3>between places. But this also brings up the concept of

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<v Speaker 3>So now we don't have telepathic communication, and it's because

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, I agree, but to.

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<v Speaker 3>The devolution or Downhill's live.

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<v Speaker 1>But it still happens. It still happens because if you

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and ten megaherts. So what happens inside the

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<v Speaker 1>And it's enormous city that had this technology active. Now

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<v Speaker 1>other within the community. So not only I think you

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<v Speaker 1>are absolutely right when you say that language replace this,

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<v Speaker 1>Megalitic world ended and the power of the megaliths stopped,

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<v Speaker 1>so they need a new means of communication, and so

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<v Speaker 1>language became more and more prevalent and they lost it.

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<v Speaker 1>So perhaps it's not just a matter of the brain,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's also a matter of architecture and how we

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<v Speaker 1>left one can do the same things with a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of practice, because the brain creates new neuro connections, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So in this case is the contrary. We are losing

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<v Speaker 1>those neurow connections because we don't use them, but they

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<v Speaker 1>are still there, and these sites prove it. Sorry I

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<v Speaker 1>made it too long.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, you're good, but I was gonna ask Nick.

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<v Speaker 3>Nick do you kind of see like a connection between

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<v Speaker 3>animal telepathy and sort of what we were operating on before.

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<v Speaker 3>So animals don't use language in the same way, Like

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<v Speaker 3>they're not making words and stuff, but somehow they're able

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<v Speaker 3>to communicate, and they do it pretty effectively, even across species.

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<v Speaker 3>They kind of know what the other ones are doing

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<v Speaker 6>You know, oh, that is a do you like that idea?

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<v Speaker 6>I have thought that before. I mean, you know, animals

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<v Speaker 6>don't have to really, I mean, there's certain things that

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<v Speaker 6>they do that I think they understand, like what the

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think they have a specific language vocally, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>I do wonder about thought and if humans were like

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<v Speaker 6>that at some point, or if it's more of like

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<v Speaker 6>just being able to read someone's energy and that's enough

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<v Speaker 6>to understand like what you're dealing with.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, maybe the emotional component.

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<v Speaker 6>Yah, I've even wondered, like, is that why some animals

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<v Speaker 6>sometimes will react different to different people. It's because it's

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<v Speaker 6>what the person's carrying around with them, you know. Why

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<v Speaker 6>would a cat that you know sometimes is good with

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<v Speaker 6>people won't like one person you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 6>there's probably a reason for.

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<v Speaker 3>Them, right, it might be even something attached to them too.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, yeah yeah, or yeah they're just an evil

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<v Speaker 3>Know, right right, yeah, they could pick up on that ship.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think you know, if humans had something like that,

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<v Speaker 3>only more developed, right then you could see how that

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<v Speaker 3>would you know, come into telepathy. And in some ways

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're working on ways of activating those vestigial

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<v Speaker 3>parts of the brain because if they can, why not,

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<v Speaker 3>why not try? But the ultimate conspiracy would be a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of people who all have telepathy, so they could

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<v Speaker 3>all be mobilized without ever saying a single word over

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a lot of distance or I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how far telepathy is able to go, you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>is there is there a proximity limit on that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well that the idea, the idea of remote viewing, right,

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is a psychic or intuitive practice that

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<v Speaker 2>has been engaged by governments and they kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we give this up or we aren't using this before,

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<v Speaker 2>but no, actually we're going back to it because it's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the you know, it seems fantasiful, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>a really like operational step by step orientation that uses

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we get back to the experiments of Rupert Sheldrick

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<v Speaker 1>and the are true that are relevant to this case.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them is the experiment that he made that is,

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<v Speaker 1>can we say who is calling? So? Do we know

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<v Speaker 1>who is calling us at a certain point. So he

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<v Speaker 1>made this study and the mathematical probability proves that we

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<v Speaker 1>still have the ability to know who is calling us

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<v Speaker 1>before we picked up. There is a T shirt. And

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<v Speaker 1>another test was done between people and their animals. So

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<v Speaker 1>this particular dog as soon so they changed the itinery

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<v Speaker 1>of the person that gets out of the house. They

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<v Speaker 1>the owner of the dog and say now you go home, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And the second that the person produced the start that

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<v Speaker 1>window at the exact same time. So there is this

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<v Speaker 1>is to answer what you're saying. There is no distance

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<v Speaker 1>between an established connection, so and the person that is

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<v Speaker 1>So and you still know what it's calling.

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<v Speaker 3>My cat always knows what I'm getting home, See always knows.

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<v Speaker 6>No, you know what dogs is a lot of they're saying.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that is as your scent starts to dwindle off,

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<v Speaker 6>that's when like they have like they can figure out

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<v Speaker 6>when you went home by like how long your scent

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<v Speaker 6>is gone, because they're used to like I guess, like

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<v Speaker 6>a work schedule, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>some weird shit like that I was written.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, in this case, they changed the time. It

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<v Speaker 1>could be go out just two hours or stay for

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<v Speaker 1>more two hours or three hours after the normal hour.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's only when they decided I'm going home that

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<v Speaker 6>Well that is bucked out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, And they did the same. They had the

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<v Speaker 1>same results with several dogs, but the one featured that

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<v Speaker 1>they actually filmed it and show it. And there's another

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<v Speaker 1>one the rats tests. So they present suppose that in Japan,

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<v Speaker 1>they gave a new maze to a group of rats

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<v Speaker 1>in that suppose in Japan, right, and they took two

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<v Speaker 1>In our mice in Austria, they took one minute and

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<v Speaker 1>forty five. They then repeat it in the United States

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<v Speaker 1>and sorry one hour and forty foveen they take one

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<v Speaker 1>hour and it keeps decreasing each time the experiment is repeated,

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<v Speaker 1>and the mice are not related in any way. So

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<v Speaker 1>this shows that by doing a task, there is some

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<v Speaker 1>information that is uploaded that can be accessed when you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to solve the same problem. So when we speak

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<v Speaker 1>about inventions that are being recreations of that are lost

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<v Speaker 1>in time and then that are recreated, we might be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the same thing. So knowledge is not lost,

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<v Speaker 1>is somewhere and there is a way to access it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this might sound weird, but they've actually seen the

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<v Speaker 3>same results when it comes to chemical reactions exactly, and

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of these nuclear tests they've got exotic particles

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<v Speaker 3>that they don't know ever existed in nature, and the

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<v Speaker 3>first few times that they're they're dealing with these things,

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<v Speaker 3>the results are entirely erratic, but they seem to normalize

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<v Speaker 3>over time. And why would chemistry you know, one of

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<v Speaker 3>the most physical sciences there are have a hard time processing,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, new chemical reactions. Wouldn't it all just be mathematical.

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<v Speaker 3>Why would it have different phases or different reactions depending

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, and you have the same in crystals. Each time

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<v Speaker 1>they develop a new type of crystal, the second time

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<v Speaker 1>they make it is quicker and quicker and quicker. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the crystal matrix itself gets transferred from without

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<v Speaker 1>having any time or space between them, and the second

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<v Speaker 1>time they tyed to create the same type of crystal,

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<v Speaker 1>it grows faster, and then it grows faster and so on.

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<v Speaker 1>So it happens in all apparently in all domains of

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there has to be. I think there's two ways

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<v Speaker 3>of looking at it. The first one is simulation. We're

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<v Speaker 3>in a massive simulation, and the simulation takes time to

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<v Speaker 3>it out, and that's why we get this reaction. I

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<v Speaker 3>think there's another explanation. If we live in a holographic

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<v Speaker 3>it to fully form and do its thing right. So

423
00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:37.119
<v Speaker 3>this is more of like maybe there's a subdimensional kind

424
00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:41.400
<v Speaker 3>of lattice work that we live in, right, that's sort

425
00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:44.079
<v Speaker 3>of what keeps us all together, And it would be

426
00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:49.960
<v Speaker 3>stuff like the Fibonacci sequence and you know pi. These

427
00:26:50.079 --> 00:26:55.160
<v Speaker 3>numbers have kind of merged their way into physical reality

428
00:26:55.200 --> 00:27:00.720
<v Speaker 3>with all of these shapes that come from their you know, algorithms.

429
00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:07.720
<v Speaker 1>So don't you think that the simulation and the holographic

430
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:09.559
<v Speaker 1>might be related one another.

431
00:27:09.720 --> 00:27:12.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I'm just saying if you're going to describe

432
00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:14.960
<v Speaker 3>it there, there could be two ways of looking at it.

433
00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:18.680
<v Speaker 3>But you know, a hologram is a natural thing like

434
00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:23.559
<v Speaker 3>that happens naturally. So if it's happening naturally here, I mean,

435
00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:27.640
<v Speaker 3>maybe we exist inside of something else. But I don't

436
00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:30.079
<v Speaker 3>think it's actually suggestive of that. But if you go

437
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:33.720
<v Speaker 3>to the simulation model, then the simulation model might explain

438
00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:36.359
<v Speaker 3>that as well. But at the very least you can

439
00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:38.960
<v Speaker 3>get up to that holographic level and start to understand,

440
00:27:39.000 --> 00:27:41.319
<v Speaker 3>you know, strength it.

441
00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:43.599
<v Speaker 1>Just occurred to me while you were speaking that the

442
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:48.920
<v Speaker 1>holographic might be the physical representation of the simulation. The

443
00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:54.440
<v Speaker 1>way the simulation comes into existence is holographically, right, because

444
00:27:54.480 --> 00:27:58.599
<v Speaker 1>you can't actually touch anything anything.

445
00:27:58.640 --> 00:28:00.720
<v Speaker 6>You can press your fingers and I touch it that

446
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:01.519
<v Speaker 6>it's fucking nothing.

447
00:28:01.559 --> 00:28:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Actually nothing, it's magnetics.

448
00:28:05.640 --> 00:28:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Have you seen the recent uh uh discussion online about

449
00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:24.000
<v Speaker 2>lasers and people on ayahuascape code is something.

450
00:28:24.079 --> 00:28:26.599
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like they're they're literally.

451
00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:29.680
<v Speaker 2>All of them. Apparently this is the discussion anyway that

452
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:35.039
<v Speaker 2>no matter who it is, when they have these two

453
00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:39.519
<v Speaker 2>aspects come together, the drug and a laser, they're all

454
00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:42.640
<v Speaker 2>seeing the same thing, which is very much they're describing

455
00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:49.000
<v Speaker 2>it like the matrix readout of the green screen. Uh uh,

456
00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:55.359
<v Speaker 2>production orientation of the simulation, if you will, very very strange.

457
00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:56.319
<v Speaker 1>Again, I don't know.

458
00:28:56.279 --> 00:29:00.680
<v Speaker 2>If it's just whatever, but Library of the told says

459
00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:03.279
<v Speaker 2>I can attest. I think he might be talking about

460
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:03.880
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying.

461
00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:09.079
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's that's interesting because I always suspected that lasers

462
00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:14.359
<v Speaker 3>and hallucinogens would together. But you know, you come from

463
00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:16.160
<v Speaker 3>the rave scene. That's sort of the way you see

464
00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:16.720
<v Speaker 3>the world.

465
00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, that got it, so that's that's the best

466
00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:26.319
<v Speaker 1>thing to do. Feel yourself with drugs and then go

467
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:29.880
<v Speaker 1>into a place with very loud music, lots of lights

468
00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:33.839
<v Speaker 1>flashing on your eyes. That's that's I think that's very wise.

469
00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:44.720
<v Speaker 2>Very something else that reminds me of the red the

470
00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:51.079
<v Speaker 2>red telescopic infrared sites that were used in Vietnam. Have

471
00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:52.519
<v Speaker 2>you guys ever heard this story?

472
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:54.000
<v Speaker 1>No, go on.

473
00:29:55.079 --> 00:30:04.160
<v Speaker 2>Supposedly there were there's infrared, which means below red of

474
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:08.119
<v Speaker 2>the spectrum, right, and now they don't use that, they

475
00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:12.079
<v Speaker 2>use green. It's a green night vision.

476
00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:15.440
<v Speaker 3>I actually so.

477
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:18.559
<v Speaker 2>As experience break it down.

478
00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:22.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what they what they had was night vision picks

479
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:28.119
<v Speaker 3>up this. I think it's it's ultraviolet, right. Infrared is

480
00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:30.240
<v Speaker 3>where everything is in heat vision and that's on the

481
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:33.400
<v Speaker 3>other end of the spectrum. But they had to choose

482
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:37.640
<v Speaker 3>what color spectrum to have this image come through. You

483
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:39.920
<v Speaker 3>could have it in black and white, you could have

484
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:41.960
<v Speaker 3>it and I'm sure you guys have seen the black

485
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:45.000
<v Speaker 3>and white night vision, but they chose to put it

486
00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:49.200
<v Speaker 3>into green. Right. The original What they thought originally is

487
00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:52.160
<v Speaker 3>maybe red would would be better since they used red

488
00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:54.640
<v Speaker 3>light for everything in the army. So if you've got

489
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:57.759
<v Speaker 3>flashlights they've all got a red light filter. If you've

490
00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:00.680
<v Speaker 3>got vehicles, they have these red light filters because red

491
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:03.680
<v Speaker 3>light doesn't go very far at night, so that's what

492
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:06.119
<v Speaker 3>you need to use for light discipline, so you're not

493
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:09.000
<v Speaker 3>getting sniped at, you know, from miles away.

494
00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:09.359
<v Speaker 1>See.

495
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:12.720
<v Speaker 3>So I think that what they wanted to do was

496
00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:16.279
<v Speaker 3>have the red light inside of the visors so that

497
00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:20.079
<v Speaker 3>they could you know, actually match everything else that's low

498
00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:24.279
<v Speaker 3>light conditions. But the problem is they started freaking out

499
00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:26.839
<v Speaker 3>with this red light in their eyes all the time

500
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:30.400
<v Speaker 3>and they were seeing like demons and stuff materialize in

501
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.680
<v Speaker 3>front of this you know, night vision stuff. So they

502
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:37.200
<v Speaker 3>had to change the color spectrum over to green, which

503
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:39.920
<v Speaker 3>makes more sense because we could actually see more shades

504
00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:43.319
<v Speaker 3>of green than any other color. And if you think about,

505
00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:46.599
<v Speaker 3>you know, evolving in the jungle, you would have more

506
00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:49.680
<v Speaker 3>shades of green being important and significant to you as

507
00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:53.119
<v Speaker 3>you're searching through these plants for something edible. So they

508
00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:55.799
<v Speaker 3>went with the green color spectrum because the other one

509
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:58.039
<v Speaker 3>causes visions of demons and.

510
00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Stuff and the black and my also because you see

511
00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:06.759
<v Speaker 1>our eyes become like like fellon feline eyes because they

512
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:10.119
<v Speaker 1>shined a lot, they reflect the light somehow, and that

513
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:13.359
<v Speaker 1>might be freaky it after some time looking at someone's

514
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:17.759
<v Speaker 1>face with their eyes shining like like they're glowing, and

515
00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:20.680
<v Speaker 1>green takes that out.

516
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:26.160
<v Speaker 6>Where they always use green and go something I always

517
00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:28.160
<v Speaker 6>thought about that why they always use a green tinge.

518
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:31.359
<v Speaker 3>That's why they're using the green tinge, because that's what

519
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:32.400
<v Speaker 3>the army started to you.

520
00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:35.559
<v Speaker 6>Just sucking regular light just white.

521
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:38.480
<v Speaker 3>Well, if you think about black and white, you know

522
00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:40.519
<v Speaker 3>you've got grays in the middle, and that's where you

523
00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:43.240
<v Speaker 3>get all the shades going between the two. But if

524
00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:46.960
<v Speaker 3>you've got shades of green, you could actually pick up

525
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:50.519
<v Speaker 3>more shades of green than you can gray. So from

526
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:54.119
<v Speaker 3>green to black, you've got more color possibilities and more

527
00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:57.160
<v Speaker 3>shape possibilities than you would if it was even black

528
00:32:57.200 --> 00:32:58.119
<v Speaker 3>and white.

529
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:02.160
<v Speaker 6>Is it easy to pick up ship visually?

530
00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:03.480
<v Speaker 5>Right?

531
00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:08.440
<v Speaker 3>More detail at least a little bit, And plus I

532
00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:11.119
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't wash out as easily too. So when you have

533
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:15.440
<v Speaker 3>bright flashes of light coming through these uh you know goggles,

534
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:17.799
<v Speaker 3>all it takes is one big flash and you're you're

535
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:19.160
<v Speaker 3>blinded for a while.

536
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:23.799
<v Speaker 1>You know. So I wonder this might be sounding off,

537
00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:26.400
<v Speaker 1>but I wonder why they don't give them some form

538
00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:31.880
<v Speaker 1>of cannabies because it's proven that it widens your field

539
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:36.920
<v Speaker 1>of view and betters your tread perception of of of reality.

540
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:40.559
<v Speaker 1>So for a warrior it would be I know.

541
00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:43.079
<v Speaker 2>The answer, I think because it would make people not

542
00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:44.440
<v Speaker 2>want to fight for a government.

543
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Well, in smow doses, just to increase.

544
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:56.880
<v Speaker 3>They do give sniper's diazepam, which is an anti spasmodic

545
00:33:56.920 --> 00:34:00.160
<v Speaker 3>which helps control breathing a lot better so that they

546
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:04.880
<v Speaker 3>can make better shots. But you don't want to drive

547
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:08.199
<v Speaker 3>or operate at uh heavy equipment on diazepain.

548
00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Hmmm, well, I know that the in the is Olympics,

549
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:20.599
<v Speaker 1>in the Winter Olympics, you have those pilotons that they

550
00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:23.159
<v Speaker 1>have to ski and then they have to stop and

551
00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:27.559
<v Speaker 1>shoot at targets. They take they take a drug called

552
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:32.920
<v Speaker 1>indurl that has no no other effect than to regulate

553
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:36.639
<v Speaker 1>your heartbeat and take your shivers out and doesn't appear

554
00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:40.920
<v Speaker 1>on on on tests. So they take that so when

555
00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:43.119
<v Speaker 1>they stop two or three breathings and they are not

556
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:45.360
<v Speaker 1>shaking it and they are able to shoot at the

557
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:49.239
<v Speaker 1>at the targets. Because if you can imagine, after all

558
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:52.840
<v Speaker 1>of that exercise stopping to point at something, you are

559
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:55.559
<v Speaker 1>still you are still running your muscles are still all

560
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:56.159
<v Speaker 1>over the place.

561
00:34:57.039 --> 00:35:00.119
<v Speaker 3>I always thought that was the most blatantly military a

562
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:03.960
<v Speaker 3>stick of all of the Olympic sports, because if you

563
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:08.159
<v Speaker 3>think about, you know, javelin, hammer throw, all these other things,

564
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:11.599
<v Speaker 3>those are ancient forms of warfare that you're watching, you know,

565
00:35:11.719 --> 00:35:19.639
<v Speaker 3>even doing the running, you know, right, having these sea fencing, Yeah,

566
00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:22.079
<v Speaker 3>you have sort of like the whole progression of military

567
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:24.000
<v Speaker 3>warfare kind of in that whole thing. And then at

568
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:27.519
<v Speaker 3>the very end, you know, we've got people on skis

569
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:31.920
<v Speaker 3>shooting targets, which that's what they trained at Fort Drum,

570
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:35.199
<v Speaker 3>New York. Is you know, Tenth Mountain Division is all

571
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:38.079
<v Speaker 3>about alpine warfare, which was sort of like the final

572
00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:40.920
<v Speaker 3>frontier in World War Two. Is being able to control

573
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:46.360
<v Speaker 3>these mountainous summits is incredibly valuable, especially through troop movements

574
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:50.079
<v Speaker 3>and stuff. So yeah, I think, you know, you kind

575
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:52.760
<v Speaker 3>of see that whole progression playing out with all these

576
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:53.599
<v Speaker 3>different events.

577
00:35:54.239 --> 00:36:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Well no, no, please, please, Okay, the finish a smaller country,

578
00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:08.039
<v Speaker 2>We're able to fight off the Russians, a bigger country

579
00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:12.039
<v Speaker 2>because of their skiing and rifling ability.

580
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:15.760
<v Speaker 1>No no, I was saying that you mentioned fencing, and

581
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I find it onic that what you use in Olympics

582
00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:22.280
<v Speaker 1>and know disrespect to the people that practice it. It

583
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:27.239
<v Speaker 1>has no applicability to the real world because you never

584
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:30.880
<v Speaker 1>fight in a straight line. Fencing is all about going

585
00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:35.760
<v Speaker 1>round and round and moving, so no one fights like that.

586
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:39.079
<v Speaker 1>And the fact that the swords are very pliable also

587
00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:43.639
<v Speaker 1>doesn't correspond to reality. So it's it's a notch but

588
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:48.079
<v Speaker 1>doesn't serve anything but the purpose of fighting in the

589
00:36:48.119 --> 00:36:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Olympics like moving forward and back because in reality, and

590
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:55.639
<v Speaker 1>these people obviously know how to fight outside of that domain.

591
00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:58.239
<v Speaker 1>But it's it's just ridiculous. Every other sport has a

592
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:01.519
<v Speaker 1>ring and I don't understand why fighting doesn't have the circle.

593
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:09.159
<v Speaker 1>There is called lah that's that's the name of the discipline.

594
00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:11.880
<v Speaker 1>That is is practice within a circle and you cannot

595
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:14.840
<v Speaker 1>move the circle and the better you get, you move

596
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:18.760
<v Speaker 1>to a smaller circle and start fighting in a smaller circle. Right,

597
00:37:18.920 --> 00:37:21.719
<v Speaker 1>So that would be an interesting modality to to watch

598
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:25.440
<v Speaker 1>in the Olympics, but they just do that back and forward. Well,

599
00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:35.840
<v Speaker 1>no disrespect, but it's it has no applicability into reality.

600
00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:40.480
<v Speaker 6>Did not know that. M I always did like I

601
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:42.639
<v Speaker 6>was like, what's the point of the the you know,

602
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:44.639
<v Speaker 6>I guess it being pliable, like you're saying. I was like,

603
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:46.039
<v Speaker 6>I guess that's so you don't hurt yourself. I just

604
00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:47.400
<v Speaker 6>always kind of found that funny too.

605
00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:52.840
<v Speaker 1>No, because in practice on on a on a fencing school,

606
00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:56.559
<v Speaker 1>you you practice with what is called the floret. That

607
00:37:56.760 --> 00:37:59.719
<v Speaker 1>is that it's it's it's only pliable if you put

608
00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:01.320
<v Speaker 1>it to the ground that you can band it and

609
00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:04.360
<v Speaker 1>it returns to its original position. But it's it's a

610
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:08.000
<v Speaker 1>thick metal, it's not it's not like a thin thing

611
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:11.280
<v Speaker 1>like they use. That's why they keep having to straighten

612
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:14.760
<v Speaker 1>it up when they're fighting, because it's it's like a

613
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:18.159
<v Speaker 1>little piece of foil. It's it's it's just doesn't do anything.

614
00:38:18.199 --> 00:38:20.920
<v Speaker 1>And in practice, the suits are prepared to take the

615
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:26.280
<v Speaker 1>floret because the florette has a smacked at end, so

616
00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:30.199
<v Speaker 1>it's not a pointy thing, but it has it has

617
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:32.320
<v Speaker 1>hammered the metal is hammered in the point so it

618
00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:35.519
<v Speaker 1>can't go through and the suits can take it, so

619
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:38.880
<v Speaker 1>even even slashes, so they could they could use it

620
00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:41.800
<v Speaker 1>just the same. It's just the modality that they chosen

621
00:38:41.880 --> 00:38:44.719
<v Speaker 1>to do. Perhaps it's less dangerous, but they still get

622
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:45.800
<v Speaker 1>hurt from time to time.

623
00:38:48.679 --> 00:38:51.039
<v Speaker 3>I can't find anything about bushido, but I wanted to

624
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:53.840
<v Speaker 3>see if they're doing a fighting a straight line as well,

625
00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:55.880
<v Speaker 3>or if they have a ring instead.

626
00:38:56.360 --> 00:39:00.280
<v Speaker 1>No, they fight in a they fight in a very

627
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:04.480
<v Speaker 1>wide area, right, But the modality that you've see in

628
00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:08.840
<v Speaker 1>competition is called kempo. So it's with those long cane

629
00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:13.880
<v Speaker 1>swords and not with the actual broken that would be

630
00:39:14.920 --> 00:39:17.960
<v Speaker 1>similar to katanna. But the problem is a broken still

631
00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:21.199
<v Speaker 1>kills you. It doesn't, it doesn't stab you, but if

632
00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:24.519
<v Speaker 1>you take with it, it's it's it's very strong wood,

633
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:26.840
<v Speaker 1>so it will still kill you. That's why they use.

634
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<v Speaker 1>There are those cane suits and those long cane sorts

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<v Speaker 1>that I can know. I can't remember the name right now.

636
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<v Speaker 1>They're made out of bamboo too. Yeah, exactly strips of

637
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<v Speaker 1>bamboo all tied together. So it's like being smacked instead

638
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<v Speaker 1>of being cut. But it's not it's not a straight line.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't fight in it.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know about the most famous Japanese swordsmen of

641
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<v Speaker 3>all time that wrote the Book of Five.

642
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<v Speaker 1>Rings exactly one of my favorites.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he killed the guy used Yeah, he killed the

644
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<v Speaker 3>guy using an oar from the ship that he used

645
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<v Speaker 3>to go out to the island.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he has, Yeah, he has a very interesting way

647
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<v Speaker 1>of he never lost if he's been in one hundred

648
00:40:11.960 --> 00:40:15.519
<v Speaker 1>and something duals, and he never lost one duel. But

649
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<v Speaker 1>he had he had a specific way to unrest his opponents.

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<v Speaker 1>In the case of the fight that you were talking

651
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<v Speaker 1>about was probably his greatest adversary, and he used a

652
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<v Speaker 1>long sword instead of a normal catanna. He used the

653
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<v Speaker 1>sword that he would use on horseback. That is probably

654
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<v Speaker 1>this longer than the normal sword.

655
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<v Speaker 3>No, it was six foot. It was a total six foot.

656
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<v Speaker 3>That was six foot of steel. He was going up

657
00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:52.599
<v Speaker 3>against Samurai sword is like four for half hand. They're

658
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<v Speaker 3>incredibly hard to wheel if it's your first hot like

659
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<v Speaker 3>it takes a lot of strengths work.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a two short hand. But the thing is he

661
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<v Speaker 1>always came late to the duels, and because Japan is

662
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<v Speaker 1>based on respect and honoring, they were very frustrated and

663
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<v Speaker 1>very upset when he got actually to the place, so

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<v Speaker 1>they were not in full focus, right, So he used

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<v Speaker 1>that and that is explained in his book in the

666
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<v Speaker 1>case of this guy, in order to upset him further.

667
00:41:26.440 --> 00:41:30.639
<v Speaker 1>He got there two hours or more late, right, and

668
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:34.239
<v Speaker 1>instead of carrying a sword, he decided to while he's

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<v Speaker 1>crossing the river, he shaped the ore of the ship

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<v Speaker 1>with his own tento. This is a small sort of

671
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<v Speaker 1>the samurai. He shaped it into more or less like

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00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:48.760
<v Speaker 1>a sword, right, that is longer than his long sword,

673
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<v Speaker 1>so he would reach him without him being able to

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<v Speaker 1>reach He reached the adversary without the adversary being able

675
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<v Speaker 1>to reach him. So when the fight finally starts, not

676
00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:04.239
<v Speaker 1>only the other guys upset because he's two hours plus late,

677
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:08.280
<v Speaker 1>he's disrespecting him by not using the sword. So he's

678
00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:11.880
<v Speaker 1>using the ore right, so even more upset. So it

679
00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:15.360
<v Speaker 1>took some of his ability to fight, and the outreach

680
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:18.960
<v Speaker 1>of his oar managed for him to strike him and win.

681
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<v Speaker 3>To fight well. He also pretended he was drunk too,

682
00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:26.639
<v Speaker 3>so the combination of drunk obnoxious, didn't even have a sword,

683
00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:30.559
<v Speaker 3>had this fucking piece of wood, and so it was

684
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:35.119
<v Speaker 3>the first hit. He you know, he's coming in and

685
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:37.239
<v Speaker 3>he smacks the guy right in the middle of his

686
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:41.960
<v Speaker 3>head and kills him instantly, And so I mean it

687
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<v Speaker 3>was it was one of the most decisive battles that

688
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<v Speaker 3>after that, it was like he couldn't go anywhere with

689
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:48.199
<v Speaker 3>that people challenging him to a duel because you know

690
00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:51.400
<v Speaker 3>it was like the most well known swordsman ever. So

691
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:53.280
<v Speaker 3>he wrote a book.

692
00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:57.079
<v Speaker 1>He was an orphan, right it was raised by a priest,

693
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<v Speaker 1>and he was a bit of a brat. He had

694
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<v Speaker 1>a lot of a lot of inner strengths. It was

695
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<v Speaker 1>very committed to not losing, but he didn't have the skill.

696
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<v Speaker 1>So the skill came with a lot of practice and

697
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:18.519
<v Speaker 1>a lot of higher training from from the from the priest,

698
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<v Speaker 1>and he won his first duel. He was eleven years

699
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<v Speaker 1>old or something like that. So he challenged a full

700
00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:28.360
<v Speaker 1>grown man into a into a fight, and he won

701
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:30.440
<v Speaker 1>the fight. And from that point on in ave lost.

702
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:33.880
<v Speaker 1>He kept traveling Japan, going from school to school challenging

703
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<v Speaker 1>the best and my.

704
00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:40.840
<v Speaker 3>Motive Wassashi was definitely an inspiration for Bruce Lee as well.

705
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<v Speaker 2>I was going to say Bruce Lee infamously reacted to

706
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:50.760
<v Speaker 2>a challenge to a fight by saying effectively, oh sure,

707
00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:52.519
<v Speaker 2>I haven't worked out yet today?

708
00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:53.760
<v Speaker 1>What's good?

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00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:59.280
<v Speaker 2>And it's almost the same psych out as like uh,

710
00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:01.039
<v Speaker 2>oh you want to say? Or if I'm going to

711
00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:03.519
<v Speaker 2>show up with a staff or in this case, just

712
00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:07.000
<v Speaker 2>a piece of wood in or that he knew was

713
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<v Speaker 2>hardened by the elements, was hard enough to survive the elements,

714
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:10.880
<v Speaker 2>so he picked a.

715
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<v Speaker 4>Good piece of wood. He knew it would work.

716
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<v Speaker 2>But it's also like wait, oh, and that fight he

717
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<v Speaker 2>had scheduled when challenged for a year later on the island.

718
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<v Speaker 4>So the whole year.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy is building up. Talk about a psych out.

720
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<v Speaker 2>He had a year that he that he psyched this

721
00:44:33.480 --> 00:44:37.079
<v Speaker 2>guy out with, right, and he shows up drunk and

722
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:39.840
<v Speaker 2>with a stick with an or. And so the guy's

723
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<v Speaker 2>just like, wait, if I win, I don't even win

724
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<v Speaker 2>because he's he doesn't have the swords, or if I

725
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:49.719
<v Speaker 2>if I, if I lose that now I'm losing to

726
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:52.599
<v Speaker 2>a guy with an or And he's you know, all

727
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<v Speaker 2>these things they're just like twisted his perspective, And if.

728
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<v Speaker 1>You think about it, he's very much the art of war.

729
00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:03.679
<v Speaker 1>You won the battle before you go into the field.

730
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<v Speaker 1>In fact, the complete victory only happens if you don't

731
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<v Speaker 1>actually go into the field and battle, because you you

732
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<v Speaker 1>vanquish your enemy before the battle even begun.

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<v Speaker 2>So and I believe son Su said exactly what Musashi

734
00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:22.719
<v Speaker 2>did in that sense, when your enemies think you're strong,

735
00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:26.360
<v Speaker 2>act weak. When your enemies think you're weak, make them

736
00:45:26.360 --> 00:45:30.239
<v Speaker 2>think that you're strong. Effectively. Excuse my killing of the quote,

737
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:31.480
<v Speaker 2>but something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, sir, so did you what were we? Who's next?

739
00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:46.440
<v Speaker 3>It's my turn? I think it's my turn. So this

740
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<v Speaker 3>kind of went back into the idea of the managed algorithm.

741
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:54.199
<v Speaker 3>I don't know about you guys, but ever since Charlie

742
00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:57.800
<v Speaker 3>Kirk's death, there has been nothing but christian bat farms

743
00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:03.000
<v Speaker 3>in my feed. And that's it. It's like every other

744
00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:04.920
<v Speaker 3>post for.

745
00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:05.440
<v Speaker 2>A long time.

746
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<v Speaker 6>You know what that happened?

747
00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, Christianity. I love Christianity, but it does. It is

748
00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:12.599
<v Speaker 2>a strange form.

749
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:15.519
<v Speaker 6>Of it's because you entertained the bullshit, so the bots

750
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:18.840
<v Speaker 6>attached to you the true story.

751
00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:21.760
<v Speaker 1>As you don't talk about it.

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00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:24.079
<v Speaker 6>He doesn't know. I mean, I mean, you did get

753
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:25.679
<v Speaker 6>caught up in that shit a bit. So I'm sure

754
00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:27.840
<v Speaker 6>the bots saw this one's going. Let's fu keep going.

755
00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:30.079
<v Speaker 3>With them right now because.

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00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:32.000
<v Speaker 6>Those things have been going on since Trump. It's just

757
00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:35.039
<v Speaker 6>they got to find the people who are getting into

758
00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:36.639
<v Speaker 6>it right.

759
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:39.119
<v Speaker 3>They want the conflict too, So if you put any

760
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:42.679
<v Speaker 3>negative comments, you're gonna get ten times more.

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<v Speaker 6>Dude, I've watched bots fight. They will even fight with

762
00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:49.719
<v Speaker 6>each other. One bot will fight another bot. You go

763
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:51.639
<v Speaker 6>look up that account, and you go look up the person,

764
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:53.920
<v Speaker 6>you'll see like one account for them on social media,

765
00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:57.840
<v Speaker 6>and all the all the family pictures have swirled faces

766
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<v Speaker 6>because it's ai.

767
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Interesting. I noticed, like, I'll get very little traction on

768
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:09.400
<v Speaker 2>things that I post on Facebook most often. And one

769
00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:12.519
<v Speaker 2>time I shared this meme not too long ago. It

770
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:15.599
<v Speaker 2>had like, what was it the couple that got caught

771
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:20.920
<v Speaker 2>cheating at the the some some concert where they're hugging

772
00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:25.320
<v Speaker 2>each other, and instead this meme had Trump and Epstein

773
00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:32.559
<v Speaker 2>in this embrace. Yes, the bots just came wild and

774
00:47:32.599 --> 00:47:36.920
<v Speaker 2>it's and they started a whole like argument with a

775
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:39.559
<v Speaker 2>bunch of my friends. And I was like, no, they're

776
00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:42.159
<v Speaker 2>they're bots. I have no idea where they're coming from

777
00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:46.719
<v Speaker 2>or how they how the algorithm tracked this photo which

778
00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:49.639
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even say anything about, had no links or anything.

779
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Just the photo spurred like a thousand percent increase of

780
00:47:54.960 --> 00:47:58.039
<v Speaker 2>any traction I might have had on any other posts.

781
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:02.480
<v Speaker 2>And they were all I would say, most are were bots,

782
00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:03.119
<v Speaker 2>very strength.

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00:48:03.159 --> 00:48:05.360
<v Speaker 6>Oh they're all like triggered too right, like to act

784
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:08.199
<v Speaker 6>like fucking rabid people, Oh yeah.

785
00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:13.480
<v Speaker 2>And they were saying these very generality kind of things.

786
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:15.960
<v Speaker 2>That's how I knew they were bots. It was like,

787
00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:20.639
<v Speaker 2>oh Clinton something something like wait what and like just

788
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:23.960
<v Speaker 2>this this whole like not even relevant stuff, and people

789
00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:27.119
<v Speaker 2>would argue with them. I'm like, just chill, They're not

790
00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:29.920
<v Speaker 2>even real in your opinion.

791
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:35.000
<v Speaker 1>What is the real objective of these farms of thousands

792
00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:39.800
<v Speaker 1>of phones connected to whatever this machine is? It makes

793
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:40.239
<v Speaker 1>them right?

794
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:42.039
<v Speaker 4>And yet I know what it means.

795
00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:45.360
<v Speaker 3>I just figured out I could.

796
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:49.960
<v Speaker 2>In general, bringing it back to nineteen eighty four, Winston

797
00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:55.880
<v Speaker 2>asks O'Brien, what what what is? What is it going

798
00:48:55.960 --> 00:48:59.599
<v Speaker 2>to be like in the future, and he says, imagine

799
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:02.880
<v Speaker 2>a boot stomping on the human face forever. And he

800
00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:08.000
<v Speaker 2>also says the point is power. The point of power

801
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:11.960
<v Speaker 2>is more power. So it's like, I think that's what

802
00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:16.559
<v Speaker 2>they're really trying to obtain and maintain is power.

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<v Speaker 1>Changing of public's perception. Is that what you mean?

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00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:22.480
<v Speaker 6>That's what I think?

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00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, all of the control of information is in

806
00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:32.000
<v Speaker 2>order to maintain and gain power by people that are

807
00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:34.440
<v Speaker 2>influencing the information right, Because.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we leave in a time where there are guys

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<v Speaker 1>or girls doing a lot of money on Instagram, for instance,

810
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<v Speaker 1>with a girl that doesn't exist and people know he

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00:49:48.159 --> 00:49:56.760
<v Speaker 1>doesn't exist and still pay and still live. Weird, right, Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Never get any sirens until I'm podcasting.

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00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:04.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sure, but it's an emergency, so I definitely yes,

814
00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:07.119
<v Speaker 1>you'll figured it out. So I'm curious to hear it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, go ahead, Okay. So in nineteen thirty one,

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<v Speaker 3>psychologists Winthrop and Luleela Lula Kellogg conducted a controversial experiment

817
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<v Speaker 3>in which they raised their ten month old son Donald

818
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<v Speaker 3>alongside a female chimpanzee named Gua, who was seven and

819
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<v Speaker 3>a half months old at the time. The goal was

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<v Speaker 3>to investigate how environmental influence development by treating the two

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<v Speaker 3>infants as brother and sister and raising them identically in

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<v Speaker 3>every way, including dressing them similarly, feeding them in high chairs,

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<v Speaker 3>and providing the same level of care and training. The

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<v Speaker 3>experiment lasted for nine months, during which the Kelloggs meticulously

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<v Speaker 3>documented their observations and conducted numerous tests on both children.

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<v Speaker 3>Gua demonstrated remarkable psycho physical develops and outperformed Donald in

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<v Speaker 3>many tasks, such as using a spoon, cup, opening doors,

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<v Speaker 3>and walking upright. She also imitated human behaviors like hugging, kissing,

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<v Speaker 3>showing affection, and displayed strong comprehension of language, though she

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<v Speaker 3>could not speak. However, the experiment was terminated on March

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<v Speaker 3>twenty eighth, nineteen thirty two, after nine months. While the

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<v Speaker 3>exact reasons are debated, several factors are cited. Gua was

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<v Speaker 3>becoming stronger and exhausted from the demands of the experiment,

834
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<v Speaker 3>potentially less manageable. The Kellogg's were exhausted from the demands

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<v Speaker 3>of the experiment, and Donald began imitating Gua's chimp like

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<v Speaker 3>vocalizations and behaviors, raising concerns about his own development.

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<v Speaker 1>So the human was following the ape, right.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why that's why they're having all these bots, because

839
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<v Speaker 3>now we've got a whole generation of kids raised by bots.

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<v Speaker 3>What are they going to be more like when they

841
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<v Speaker 3>grow up?

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<v Speaker 6>But definitely and they'll think with the butts do all

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<v Speaker 6>to think exactly politics. That's why you know on social

844
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:17.000
<v Speaker 6>media that's exactly what.

845
00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would say that in that particular case, the

846
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:24.199
<v Speaker 1>child was following the ape because the ape was to

847
00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:28.079
<v Speaker 1>him the alpha of the group, right, because it's the

848
00:52:28.079 --> 00:52:30.760
<v Speaker 1>one that is ahead, the one that's doing stuff and

849
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:35.480
<v Speaker 1>looks stronger or better. In the case of the bots,

850
00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:38.280
<v Speaker 1>I would say that these people come, they are new

851
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:42.519
<v Speaker 1>to start using the phone and so on. They know nothing,

852
00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:45.760
<v Speaker 1>and they learned from the things that appear in their screen. Right,

853
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:48.880
<v Speaker 1>so they kept on following and use the same matters

854
00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:52.639
<v Speaker 1>of language, of communication, of wording that they see on

855
00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:55.800
<v Speaker 1>these bots. And so the result is what you're saying,

856
00:52:55.840 --> 00:53:00.400
<v Speaker 1>that they turn into human bots in terms of expression.

857
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:01.440
<v Speaker 6>And wine control.

858
00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well they have many years of that. We tell you.

859
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:12.199
<v Speaker 3>Here's how cybernetics was supposed to work. So cybernetics was

860
00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:16.159
<v Speaker 3>just supposed to be humans being trained on computers, kind

861
00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:19.400
<v Speaker 3>of like away classes or whatever. So cybernetics is the

862
00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:23.199
<v Speaker 3>interplay between human and computer. As you're clicking through these

863
00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:27.440
<v Speaker 3>different choices that the computer gives you, you're engaging with

864
00:53:27.519 --> 00:53:30.519
<v Speaker 3>that machine. Well, now it's the opposite. The machine is

865
00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:34.760
<v Speaker 3>engaging with us and learning from our behavior. So instead

866
00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:37.480
<v Speaker 3>of us learning from the machine, now it's this cyclical loop.

867
00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:42.920
<v Speaker 3>It's this snake eating its own tail, right, It's constantly

868
00:53:42.960 --> 00:53:46.119
<v Speaker 3>feeding back and forth between organic and inorganic, and so

869
00:53:46.280 --> 00:53:49.440
<v Speaker 3>people are going to be learning in those ways. It's

870
00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:53.880
<v Speaker 3>kind of like a whole skinner box experiment using this

871
00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:58.000
<v Speaker 3>is our entire planet, you know, this is our only interaction.

872
00:53:58.199 --> 00:54:03.400
<v Speaker 3>So that's what they're hoping for the next generation. It's

873
00:54:03.519 --> 00:54:07.320
<v Speaker 3>just going to be that easy to train them through the.

874
00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Attention hole, which is which is ironic because the Internet

875
00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:17.280
<v Speaker 1>is the biggest accumulation of information with free access to

876
00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:22.360
<v Speaker 1>it that humankind has ever heard or had, at least

877
00:54:22.360 --> 00:54:27.480
<v Speaker 1>in our historical times. So it's instead of being used

878
00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:31.440
<v Speaker 1>as such, the majority use it just to kill the time,

879
00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Like whatever whatever comes up on screen is whatever I'm

880
00:54:34.719 --> 00:54:38.599
<v Speaker 1>going to watch. And we have the attention span problem, right,

881
00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:42.679
<v Speaker 1>so videos that are more than three minutes, three to

882
00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:46.039
<v Speaker 1>five minutes is it's the ideal, And even then most

883
00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:48.639
<v Speaker 1>people don't watch them to the end because they're too

884
00:54:48.760 --> 00:54:51.440
<v Speaker 1>used to keep on changing. I want something they can't,

885
00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:53.840
<v Speaker 1>they can't keep focus, right, So.

886
00:54:56.880 --> 00:54:59.119
<v Speaker 3>Do you think they want more open platforms if they're

887
00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:01.480
<v Speaker 3>going to try and train these things to be more realistic?

888
00:55:02.920 --> 00:55:06.239
<v Speaker 3>You know, I mean, if you think about it, they

889
00:55:06.360 --> 00:55:08.800
<v Speaker 3>need to actually understand human behavior and not just what

890
00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:12.519
<v Speaker 3>you're allowed to type on the Internet. The only way

891
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:17.679
<v Speaker 3>you're going to create more committing bots, Well, I.

892
00:55:17.639 --> 00:55:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Came from a time when we had documentaries of six

893
00:55:21.039 --> 00:55:24.800
<v Speaker 1>hours and we still said, oh, it's already ended. I

894
00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:28.760
<v Speaker 1>wanted more information, but now it's just thirty seconds next.

895
00:55:29.519 --> 00:55:32.599
<v Speaker 1>I got it next. And most of it is just

896
00:55:34.599 --> 00:55:39.480
<v Speaker 1>publical figures. It's not even information. It's just stuff that

897
00:55:39.880 --> 00:55:46.920
<v Speaker 1>doesn't teach you anything but to imitate this body language

898
00:55:46.920 --> 00:55:50.599
<v Speaker 1>that these people use. And it's a complete mind fuckery

899
00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:55.800
<v Speaker 1>to young people because they act and it's like when

900
00:55:55.800 --> 00:56:00.760
<v Speaker 1>they started with what do you call the music videos

901
00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:03.199
<v Speaker 1>that are thinking that they have the choreographies and they

902
00:56:03.239 --> 00:56:05.360
<v Speaker 1>show how they dress and how they move and how

903
00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:07.840
<v Speaker 1>they act. Now you have all of these people that

904
00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:11.599
<v Speaker 1>have problems with hands because musicians seem like they are

905
00:56:11.840 --> 00:56:13.840
<v Speaker 1>brain damaged, and they speak with the hands in the

906
00:56:13.960 --> 00:56:17.360
<v Speaker 1>very weirdt way, and people find it it's it's it's

907
00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:20.880
<v Speaker 1>cool to speak the same way, right. I've seen that

908
00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:24.840
<v Speaker 1>in impair children unfortunately, but now it's it's a common

909
00:56:24.880 --> 00:56:27.239
<v Speaker 1>way of expressing yourself, which I find funny.

910
00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:33.599
<v Speaker 3>I like the way you put that. So, Nick, did

911
00:56:33.679 --> 00:56:36.280
<v Speaker 3>you have a topic you order to discuss anything on

912
00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:37.159
<v Speaker 3>the top of your mind?

913
00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:39.440
<v Speaker 6>Oh, that's why I was like, I really didn't even

914
00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:43.079
<v Speaker 6>have anything unfortunately. I mean, just not to talk about

915
00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:44.519
<v Speaker 6>the shit that I'm working on. It's like the only

916
00:56:44.559 --> 00:56:46.840
<v Speaker 6>thing I've been doing, so the only ship my head.

917
00:56:46.920 --> 00:56:50.360
<v Speaker 4>Really, Well, what's your latest project?

918
00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:57.079
<v Speaker 6>H fucking doing like three at the same time. I

919
00:56:57.119 --> 00:56:59.199
<v Speaker 6>did finish one, and like, well, I finished one and

920
00:56:59.239 --> 00:57:01.239
<v Speaker 6>I'm prepared and I'm doing get on a show Tuesday

921
00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:04.400
<v Speaker 6>for mic and days I'm doing vampire Lore, but you know,

922
00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:06.760
<v Speaker 6>just to keep it real and it'd probably be a

923
00:57:06.760 --> 00:57:09.960
<v Speaker 6>different show anyway. But it's like sometimes when I cover

924
00:57:10.039 --> 00:57:11.800
<v Speaker 6>topics or going on other people shows, even on my own,

925
00:57:11.800 --> 00:57:14.000
<v Speaker 6>I don't get through all my notes. So I recorded

926
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:18.000
<v Speaker 6>the show my whole thing and did that as well,

927
00:57:18.039 --> 00:57:19.599
<v Speaker 6>just in case when I cover it on these other

928
00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:21.920
<v Speaker 6>people's shows, it doesn't neither. I don't get finished or

929
00:57:21.960 --> 00:57:24.559
<v Speaker 6>just whatever. So like, I'm doing that and I'm gonna

930
00:57:24.599 --> 00:57:26.559
<v Speaker 6>drop that for Halloween. Then I was working on a

931
00:57:26.800 --> 00:57:29.320
<v Speaker 6>stuff for the for the UU show tomorrow. I mean,

932
00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:31.000
<v Speaker 6>I have that done, but I need to go over

933
00:57:31.079 --> 00:57:34.480
<v Speaker 6>and kind of like it's seventy pages. Obviously I'm not

934
00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:35.719
<v Speaker 6>gonna be able to cover that in the show, so

935
00:57:35.760 --> 00:57:37.599
<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna have to go through it and actually pick

936
00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:39.840
<v Speaker 6>which herbs I want to use on the show. I

937
00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:43.639
<v Speaker 6>did that recently and I'm working Geo Donald B. I'm

938
00:57:43.679 --> 00:57:47.039
<v Speaker 6>working on So it's a lot of shit. But the

939
00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:51.280
<v Speaker 6>vampire lore and the incense stuff, the incense and the

940
00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:54.199
<v Speaker 6>you know what it effects on the cranial nerves in

941
00:57:54.239 --> 00:57:58.679
<v Speaker 6>your nervous system's topic. Yeah, yeah, I will say about that.

942
00:57:58.840 --> 00:58:02.719
<v Speaker 6>It's you know, even like it really in a couple

943
00:58:02.760 --> 00:58:06.119
<v Speaker 6>of ways. It's just it really does reiterate things that

944
00:58:06.159 --> 00:58:09.320
<v Speaker 6>I've said before. One, like I do think a lot

945
00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:11.159
<v Speaker 6>of stuff is woo woo. And when you start looking

946
00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:12.679
<v Speaker 6>at a lot of what these herbs will do if

947
00:58:12.679 --> 00:58:14.639
<v Speaker 6>they're ingested or if the oil is put on you

948
00:58:14.800 --> 00:58:18.480
<v Speaker 6>or if you inhale them, even like certain things that

949
00:58:18.480 --> 00:58:20.639
<v Speaker 6>they go along with with spells would almost even give

950
00:58:20.679 --> 00:58:24.559
<v Speaker 6>you that feeling that you've just accomplished that, you know.

951
00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:27.519
<v Speaker 6>And like I've always said before, like I guess depending

952
00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:31.199
<v Speaker 6>on like what you're trying to do in magic. Let's

953
00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:33.559
<v Speaker 6>say I'm liking making a candle, I mean and keep

954
00:58:33.559 --> 00:58:36.000
<v Speaker 6>it easier and doing candle magic, and I'm doing it

955
00:58:36.039 --> 00:58:39.480
<v Speaker 6>to change myself. And let's say I'm doing it to

956
00:58:39.760 --> 00:58:45.159
<v Speaker 6>change somebody else. With those herbs maybe actually be used

957
00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:47.960
<v Speaker 6>to burn those so you change yourself and feel better

958
00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:49.760
<v Speaker 6>and get your mind clear and try to do what

959
00:58:49.800 --> 00:58:52.199
<v Speaker 6>you're trying to do, and oppose to somebody who's trying

960
00:58:52.239 --> 00:58:55.760
<v Speaker 6>to use it to obtain something and change the will

961
00:58:55.800 --> 00:58:58.440
<v Speaker 6>of the world around them. I would again would say

962
00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:00.760
<v Speaker 6>that's probably the difference between white matt You can black magic.

963
00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:03.960
<v Speaker 6>I know it's simple and it's going against the herbs,

964
00:59:03.960 --> 00:59:06.480
<v Speaker 6>but like maybe that's used to change you and not

965
00:59:06.599 --> 00:59:08.719
<v Speaker 6>actually used to try to change the world around you.

966
00:59:14.239 --> 00:59:17.239
<v Speaker 3>But in as its you, you do both, because if

967
00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:20.199
<v Speaker 3>you change the perspective of the individual, then they're going

968
00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:21.480
<v Speaker 3>to be making different choices.

969
00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:24.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I know, but it's like when you start justifying that,

970
00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:25.280
<v Speaker 6>it's like, well, it's okay for me to be a

971
00:59:25.320 --> 00:59:27.119
<v Speaker 6>fascist because I want everybody to believe what I want

972
00:59:27.159 --> 00:59:30.840
<v Speaker 6>to believe. I'm not down with that either. People don't

973
00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:32.000
<v Speaker 6>like the shit that comes out of my mouth. They

974
00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:33.440
<v Speaker 6>don't believe me. I don't care. I don't get angry,

975
00:59:33.480 --> 00:59:35.559
<v Speaker 6>I don't go rant, I don't go fucking create spaces

976
00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:38.079
<v Speaker 6>over it. It's it is what it is. You know,

977
00:59:38.119 --> 00:59:39.719
<v Speaker 6>I've start pushing that shit I'm a fascist and a

978
00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:43.599
<v Speaker 6>black magic magian. If I keep badgering people to tell

979
00:59:43.639 --> 00:59:45.559
<v Speaker 6>them to think the way I think, it's, it stucks

980
00:59:45.599 --> 00:59:47.079
<v Speaker 6>becoming that and that's not my deal.

981
00:59:48.639 --> 00:59:53.719
<v Speaker 2>All the uh non touch healing that I've experienced always

982
00:59:53.760 --> 00:59:58.639
<v Speaker 2>begins like with essentially, do I have your permission to

983
00:59:58.800 --> 01:00:03.639
<v Speaker 2>work with your energy? That being right, so that that

984
01:00:03.800 --> 01:00:06.480
<v Speaker 2>non permission kind of thing, it lends to what you're saying.

985
01:00:06.519 --> 01:00:09.320
<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh, you can't impede that, you know.

986
01:00:09.639 --> 01:00:11.719
<v Speaker 6>That's why I look at my ship as putting on information.

987
01:00:11.760 --> 01:00:13.360
<v Speaker 6>If you want to listen to it, take it for granted.

988
01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:14.960
<v Speaker 6>I mean, you know, take you to it, go for it.

989
01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:17.400
<v Speaker 6>If you don't, I don't give a fuck with some

990
01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:22.679
<v Speaker 6>avatar on the internet things, honestly, just keep it real.

991
01:00:23.679 --> 01:00:25.119
<v Speaker 6>You know what I'm saying. It could be a bot.

992
01:00:26.719 --> 01:00:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Probably not even an avatar that's given them too much glory.

993
01:00:30.920 --> 01:00:35.320
<v Speaker 6>Yeah yeah, yeah no, but uh no, but it's just

994
01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:37.719
<v Speaker 6>you know, certain things between that and the crystals, which

995
01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:40.480
<v Speaker 6>that is, that was that's even worse. That's even more

996
01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:43.960
<v Speaker 6>detailed ship. Uh but I want I don't know if

997
01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:45.719
<v Speaker 6>I want to put them both together in a book.

998
01:00:46.039 --> 01:00:48.599
<v Speaker 6>The crystals is impressive, but I think if it was

999
01:00:48.639 --> 01:00:51.159
<v Speaker 6>your to look at it in a different way. I

1000
01:00:51.159 --> 01:00:53.119
<v Speaker 6>do think it's impressive, though, like with some of them,

1001
01:00:53.159 --> 01:00:54.760
<v Speaker 6>like I mean, you want to keep it real, just

1002
01:00:54.800 --> 01:00:56.639
<v Speaker 6>colors of crystals. You look at them long enough, the

1003
01:00:56.679 --> 01:00:59.039
<v Speaker 6>color can affect you. I mean, there was a lot

1004
01:00:59.079 --> 01:01:01.480
<v Speaker 6>of properties of crystals. But I think if you have

1005
01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:03.440
<v Speaker 6>that stuff and you have these herbs on your on

1006
01:01:03.480 --> 01:01:06.639
<v Speaker 6>your on your altar, and you're doing all this shit,

1007
01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:09.000
<v Speaker 6>at some point, I just think it's just kind of

1008
01:01:09.039 --> 01:01:12.840
<v Speaker 6>psychodrama and whatever feeling or maybe even theogy, like when

1009
01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:15.159
<v Speaker 6>you're do in theogy, I mean, maybe that feeling you're

1010
01:01:15.159 --> 01:01:17.719
<v Speaker 6>getting is from the incense and that you're actually doing anything.

1011
01:01:19.239 --> 01:01:23.199
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that the ability to create magic effectively

1012
01:01:24.199 --> 01:01:30.159
<v Speaker 1>is very much based on self actuation. Yes, so that's

1013
01:01:30.199 --> 01:01:33.280
<v Speaker 1>why the rituals can be changed according to whatever you

1014
01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:36.960
<v Speaker 1>believe will actually work, based on what you've learned that

1015
01:01:37.079 --> 01:01:39.159
<v Speaker 1>others used. Yeah.

1016
01:01:39.159 --> 01:01:40.920
<v Speaker 6>I think that's why some people might even do the

1017
01:01:41.039 --> 01:01:44.119
<v Speaker 6>rituals differently because they're looking at it in a different way.

1018
01:01:45.679 --> 01:01:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1019
01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:47.639
<v Speaker 6>I mean I would even say that's probably where Crowley

1020
01:01:47.679 --> 01:01:50.519
<v Speaker 6>has his own specific formula rituals, because he's looking at

1021
01:01:50.559 --> 01:01:53.079
<v Speaker 6>it in a different way. Than other ones were, or

1022
01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:55.840
<v Speaker 6>he's starting in a different, different time of the journey.

1023
01:01:58.039 --> 01:02:01.639
<v Speaker 1>So it is, it's it's slantac. Magic is something that

1024
01:02:01.679 --> 01:02:06.320
<v Speaker 1>you can follow a formula, like a recipe of culinary

1025
01:02:06.440 --> 01:02:09.239
<v Speaker 1>and you get the results of the recipe. You need

1026
01:02:09.280 --> 01:02:11.400
<v Speaker 1>to believe in what you're doing, and sometimes you have

1027
01:02:11.440 --> 01:02:13.199
<v Speaker 1>to change some of what you're doing in or for

1028
01:02:13.239 --> 01:02:14.519
<v Speaker 1>you to believe in what you do.

1029
01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:17.320
<v Speaker 6>That and I think, like, I know it's a hard

1030
01:02:17.400 --> 01:02:18.760
<v Speaker 6>thing to get at, but if you look at my

1031
01:02:18.840 --> 01:02:21.480
<v Speaker 6>whole thing of being, like an nde or death is involved,

1032
01:02:21.480 --> 01:02:23.199
<v Speaker 6>and when I cover these herbs, and the way it

1033
01:02:23.239 --> 01:02:25.679
<v Speaker 6>affects is your vagus nerve and actually slows your heart rate.

1034
01:02:25.719 --> 01:02:28.000
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I think it's actually quite evident that that

1035
01:02:28.039 --> 01:02:30.920
<v Speaker 6>those might be aiding and you're knocking yourself off.

1036
01:02:32.239 --> 01:02:34.639
<v Speaker 1>Sure, but in the case of using chemicals, then you

1037
01:02:34.679 --> 01:02:37.599
<v Speaker 1>don't require belief because they will actually oh.

1038
01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:39.079
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, oh yeah. But like all right, what I would

1039
01:02:39.119 --> 01:02:40.679
<v Speaker 6>say is like you believe that you're going to have

1040
01:02:40.679 --> 01:02:42.280
<v Speaker 6>this experience if you use this stuff.

1041
01:02:43.039 --> 01:02:48.880
<v Speaker 1>M okay, good, But they do actually they have an

1042
01:02:48.880 --> 01:02:54.159
<v Speaker 1>active function on physiologically speaking, right, because if you give

1043
01:02:54.239 --> 01:02:56.880
<v Speaker 1>four grams of mushrooms, it doesn't matter what is the

1044
01:02:56.880 --> 01:02:59.199
<v Speaker 1>belief of the guy, it still will have an experience.

1045
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:04.559
<v Speaker 1>It's an appointing. But in ritual you you have to

1046
01:03:04.679 --> 01:03:08.079
<v Speaker 1>use self ectuation. You have to actually believe in what

1047
01:03:08.119 --> 01:03:10.400
<v Speaker 1>you're doing in order to to work.

1048
01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:11.880
<v Speaker 6>I think that helps mentally.

1049
01:03:11.960 --> 01:03:14.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, placebo effect.

1050
01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Well there's also the uh the element I just thought

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01:03:19.400 --> 01:03:23.119
<v Speaker 3>of a second ago is ritual placement of these crystals

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01:03:23.119 --> 01:03:27.199
<v Speaker 3>on different parts of the body. So you've got necklace, right, chiara,

1054
01:03:28.079 --> 01:03:31.159
<v Speaker 3>you've got bracelets, and the way that they, you know,

1055
01:03:31.239 --> 01:03:33.920
<v Speaker 3>interact with the different nerves like that could be TCM

1056
01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:38.320
<v Speaker 3>in some way. I know that the Otsi, the Iceman,

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01:03:39.079 --> 01:03:46.360
<v Speaker 3>he had Chinese style tattoos on different meridians of his body.

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01:03:47.159 --> 01:03:51.079
<v Speaker 3>So where we put these gemstones in relationship to our

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01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:55.800
<v Speaker 3>bodies actually could be from some sort of science looking

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01:03:55.800 --> 01:03:56.840
<v Speaker 3>at this energy source.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's very interesting because Otsy is not only a

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01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:07.400
<v Speaker 1>rare case on terms of conservation and how old he

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01:04:07.480 --> 01:04:10.079
<v Speaker 1>is because it's from three thousand BC three thousand and

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01:04:10.079 --> 01:04:14.519
<v Speaker 1>something BC, is the fact that he was carrying very

1065
01:04:14.639 --> 01:04:18.719
<v Speaker 1>valuable items for the time, like his eggs, and he

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01:04:18.760 --> 01:04:24.800
<v Speaker 1>had a pouch of herbs that were that had physiological

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01:04:24.880 --> 01:04:28.280
<v Speaker 1>effects by healing or whatever you want to call it.

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01:04:29.079 --> 01:04:33.320
<v Speaker 1>And he was killed on the back. He was he

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01:04:33.360 --> 01:04:37.119
<v Speaker 1>had an arrow that almost came through his heart right,

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01:04:37.199 --> 01:04:42.159
<v Speaker 1>and whoever killed him went to him, took the shaft out,

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01:04:42.639 --> 01:04:45.440
<v Speaker 1>left the arrow right and didn't rob him. So it's

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01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:48.719
<v Speaker 1>considered to be the first hate crime crime in recorded

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01:04:48.800 --> 01:04:54.320
<v Speaker 1>history because he wasn't robbed. He kept all this. In fact,

1074
01:04:54.320 --> 01:04:58.400
<v Speaker 1>he was he was crawling through the snow because all

1075
01:04:58.440 --> 01:05:02.280
<v Speaker 1>of anxiety he was taking taking off his items trying

1076
01:05:02.320 --> 01:05:08.960
<v Speaker 1>to reach surviving. He was dying anyway, but he crawled

1077
01:05:09.039 --> 01:05:11.960
<v Speaker 1>for a long time and left his belongings through that

1078
01:05:12.079 --> 01:05:15.079
<v Speaker 1>trail of snow. So when they found him and kept looking,

1079
01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:19.360
<v Speaker 1>he found all his stuff behind him on this trail

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01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:22.480
<v Speaker 1>that was marked by the falling snow that eventually buried

1081
01:05:22.719 --> 01:05:25.880
<v Speaker 1>and conservation. So I find that very interesting. And he

1082
01:05:25.960 --> 01:05:30.360
<v Speaker 1>had a highly poisoning of arsenic. He was going to

1083
01:05:30.440 --> 01:05:33.719
<v Speaker 1>die anyway, He wasn't going to live longer unless he

1084
01:05:33.960 --> 01:05:37.760
<v Speaker 1>was able to weed his herts to eliminate the chemical

1085
01:05:37.960 --> 01:05:41.400
<v Speaker 1>poisoning that he was suffering. So and probably got that

1086
01:05:41.719 --> 01:05:45.280
<v Speaker 1>because his axe, although it was made of copper and

1087
01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:50.719
<v Speaker 1>not bronze, was twenty percent better metal than if it

1088
01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:54.199
<v Speaker 1>was just copper because of the elements that it has mixed.

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01:05:54.280 --> 01:05:57.079
<v Speaker 1>Then probably he was the one creating those stuff. He

1090
01:05:57.199 --> 01:06:00.000
<v Speaker 1>was the one melting it and pouring into the mold

1091
01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:03.360
<v Speaker 1>to create his own X. All of that, I think

1092
01:06:03.519 --> 01:06:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Otsi is a case that has much more to tell

1093
01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:09.880
<v Speaker 1>than just a guy well conserveed in to snow.

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01:06:10.440 --> 01:06:13.360
<v Speaker 3>Right, And that's how they know it was Chinese medicine.

1095
01:06:13.400 --> 01:06:16.800
<v Speaker 3>Tattoos on the outside of his body is because of

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01:06:16.840 --> 01:06:20.199
<v Speaker 3>the broken bones that he had that these things were

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01:06:20.239 --> 01:06:24.920
<v Speaker 3>related to. So these were actually used in coordination to

1098
01:06:24.960 --> 01:06:27.760
<v Speaker 3>try and stimulate healing of this broken bone that he had.

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01:06:30.639 --> 01:06:34.320
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to mention some Nicki mentioned this before, and

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01:06:34.760 --> 01:06:39.159
<v Speaker 2>one of the guests on the show mentioned to in

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01:06:39.199 --> 01:06:43.800
<v Speaker 2>relation to magic, the idea of bringing in the syncretic,

1102
01:06:44.280 --> 01:06:51.280
<v Speaker 2>whether it's color or chakra, or the herbal incense or

1103
01:06:51.320 --> 01:06:57.159
<v Speaker 2>the crystals, right, bringing this alignment into whatever the idea

1104
01:06:57.360 --> 01:07:01.960
<v Speaker 2>that you're looking for, into the energy of the spell,

1105
01:07:02.079 --> 01:07:05.840
<v Speaker 2>if you will, or the activity, and that really resonates

1106
01:07:06.480 --> 01:07:11.360
<v Speaker 2>for me in practicing taisi, I try to align myself

1107
01:07:11.480 --> 01:07:15.000
<v Speaker 2>with good or powerful or whatever it is, then I

1108
01:07:15.079 --> 01:07:18.239
<v Speaker 2>might be focusing on if if I am focusing on

1109
01:07:18.280 --> 01:07:22.800
<v Speaker 2>an idea, I try to get in alignment with gold

1110
01:07:22.960 --> 01:07:26.119
<v Speaker 2>and higher thinking and whatever it is all all together

1111
01:07:26.199 --> 01:07:30.920
<v Speaker 2>in unison, and that really has a magical effect, really

1112
01:07:31.079 --> 01:07:33.760
<v Speaker 2>really puts forth magic for sure.

1113
01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:36.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think that, you know, I've even mentioned before.

1114
01:07:36.840 --> 01:07:38.679
<v Speaker 6>I do think, like I guess, when you're getting into

1115
01:07:38.719 --> 01:07:42.039
<v Speaker 6>like ceremonial stuff. For myself, I used to go overboard

1116
01:07:42.039 --> 01:07:44.559
<v Speaker 6>with the correspondences, you know. I would you know, the

1117
01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:48.599
<v Speaker 6>multi cloth the candles. I might even put oils in

1118
01:07:48.599 --> 01:07:51.800
<v Speaker 6>certain herbs on the candles, a certain engrave, certain sigils

1119
01:07:51.880 --> 01:07:55.000
<v Speaker 6>to you know, with what I'm working with. You know,

1120
01:07:55.239 --> 01:07:57.239
<v Speaker 6>sometimes the color of light bulb that I even use

1121
01:07:57.280 --> 01:07:58.679
<v Speaker 6>in the room that I was doing, you know, i'd

1122
01:07:58.679 --> 01:08:04.719
<v Speaker 6>haven't matched the suffer of Sometimes I had different colored robes.

1123
01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:07.920
<v Speaker 6>I had white, black, I had a purple and a

1124
01:08:07.960 --> 01:08:09.679
<v Speaker 6>green thing that I could put over it to to

1125
01:08:09.800 --> 01:08:11.960
<v Speaker 6>like change the colors and stuff. I had a bunch

1126
01:08:11.960 --> 01:08:14.679
<v Speaker 6>of different stuff. Long story short, I do think that

1127
01:08:15.400 --> 01:08:17.520
<v Speaker 6>when I was doing all that, it definitely keeps me.

1128
01:08:18.600 --> 01:08:20.319
<v Speaker 6>I guess when I'm worried about everything and making sure

1129
01:08:20.359 --> 01:08:23.479
<v Speaker 6>everything matches. I'm very much set on the idea of

1130
01:08:23.479 --> 01:08:26.000
<v Speaker 6>what I'm doing, you know, and then I would even like,

1131
01:08:26.079 --> 01:08:28.079
<v Speaker 6>you know, just keeping a rail sounds again od. I

1132
01:08:28.119 --> 01:08:29.960
<v Speaker 6>mean I would do ritual bats before my ritual. I

1133
01:08:29.960 --> 01:08:31.880
<v Speaker 6>mean even then I'd be meditating and what I'm about

1134
01:08:31.880 --> 01:08:33.520
<v Speaker 6>to do for the next you know, I'd be sitting

1135
01:08:33.520 --> 01:08:35.039
<v Speaker 6>in there for a half hour thinking about what I'm

1136
01:08:35.039 --> 01:08:37.000
<v Speaker 6>about to do for another hour, and then when I

1137
01:08:37.039 --> 01:08:39.119
<v Speaker 6>go in there, everything set up to remind me exactly

1138
01:08:39.199 --> 01:08:41.159
<v Speaker 6>what I'm trying to go for. I'm sure that helps

1139
01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:45.840
<v Speaker 6>with the whole, you know, psycho part, but I also

1140
01:08:45.880 --> 01:08:49.399
<v Speaker 6>do think that and for myself. And I've said this before,

1141
01:08:49.960 --> 01:08:52.159
<v Speaker 6>and I've even wondered if this is why other occultists

1142
01:08:52.239 --> 01:08:54.119
<v Speaker 6>like pound their heads in with like tons of shit

1143
01:08:54.119 --> 01:08:56.520
<v Speaker 6>as young kids. I think the more stuff that's in

1144
01:08:56.560 --> 01:08:58.680
<v Speaker 6>your head before you have a magical experience, more shit

1145
01:08:58.720 --> 01:09:01.479
<v Speaker 6>will get rewired, more ship will start making sense to you.

1146
01:09:02.640 --> 01:09:04.319
<v Speaker 6>So I think, even if you're doing all that and

1147
01:09:04.359 --> 01:09:08.920
<v Speaker 6>it's just like you know, not really like magic magic,

1148
01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:12.039
<v Speaker 6>but it's kind of like, I don't know, psychodrama, I

1149
01:09:12.119 --> 01:09:16.159
<v Speaker 6>think after you have a magical experience, you might start

1150
01:09:16.199 --> 01:09:19.920
<v Speaker 6>seeing how this stuff makes sense in different ways and

1151
01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:23.399
<v Speaker 6>why they're all connected. It's hard to explain. It's almost

1152
01:09:23.399 --> 01:09:25.239
<v Speaker 6>like a puzzle gets rearranged and you're like, oh, that's

1153
01:09:25.279 --> 01:09:27.399
<v Speaker 6>the actual right picture, but everything is still there and

1154
01:09:27.399 --> 01:09:29.520
<v Speaker 6>connected in a way. It's just swiped around a little

1155
01:09:29.520 --> 01:09:34.119
<v Speaker 6>bit differently. That's been my experience, So.

1156
01:09:34.439 --> 01:09:37.920
<v Speaker 1>You would say that after with your experience, it became

1157
01:09:37.960 --> 01:09:42.319
<v Speaker 1>more tuned to decoding the reality or inserted in.

1158
01:09:42.600 --> 01:09:44.640
<v Speaker 6>Yeah. It was almost like, you know, things would start

1159
01:09:44.680 --> 01:09:47.199
<v Speaker 6>flashing in front of my face, Taro and just certain ideas,

1160
01:09:47.279 --> 01:09:50.359
<v Speaker 6>cabalistic things, you know, crystal stone, you know, or whatever,

1161
01:09:50.840 --> 01:09:54.119
<v Speaker 6>and it's almost like it just goes like a like

1162
01:09:54.159 --> 01:09:56.680
<v Speaker 6>a zeotrope of them like flashing forward, and it's like

1163
01:09:57.119 --> 01:09:59.960
<v Speaker 6>you see this continual connection between all of them, like

1164
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:02.079
<v Speaker 6>it's golden thread and it makes sense. I don't know

1165
01:10:02.119 --> 01:10:02.680
<v Speaker 6>how to explain.

1166
01:10:03.239 --> 01:10:04.760
<v Speaker 1>So it begins as as a book.

1167
01:10:05.279 --> 01:10:09.520
<v Speaker 6>It's almost like it's like you ship yeah, yeah.

1168
01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:12.319
<v Speaker 1>And suddenly you're getting words and you're getting words of

1169
01:10:12.359 --> 01:10:13.800
<v Speaker 1>it and you start to make it yeah.

1170
01:10:13.880 --> 01:10:14.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

1171
01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:17.199
<v Speaker 6>It's almost likes to put together the whole paragraph right

1172
01:10:17.359 --> 01:10:21.159
<v Speaker 6>and you're like, oh, okay, is it's that weird? And

1173
01:10:21.159 --> 01:10:23.399
<v Speaker 6>it's almost where it's like you're leaving here being said

1174
01:10:23.439 --> 01:10:25.279
<v Speaker 6>to you, but you're not. It's even hard to explain

1175
01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:26.760
<v Speaker 6>with that, dude.

1176
01:10:26.880 --> 01:10:29.680
<v Speaker 3>That's why so many magicians use the cut up method.

1177
01:10:29.720 --> 01:10:32.199
<v Speaker 1>Because it's exactly like that, right.

1178
01:10:32.279 --> 01:10:35.159
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I've thought that before. I was like, that's kind

1179
01:10:35.159 --> 01:10:37.840
<v Speaker 6>of like, you know, you misman you know, mixing it

1180
01:10:38.079 --> 01:10:39.960
<v Speaker 6>up again, and it's like, oh, that's the way it

1181
01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:42.920
<v Speaker 6>was supposed to be. Even it's like part of the

1182
01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:45.960
<v Speaker 6>chaos with magic, the rewarming, rethinking.

1183
01:10:47.920 --> 01:10:51.359
<v Speaker 3>The cut up method is, uh, it's from the guy

1184
01:10:51.399 --> 01:10:53.640
<v Speaker 3>who wrote the book Naked Lunch. I forgot his.

1185
01:10:53.640 --> 01:10:59.399
<v Speaker 6>Name, Oh god right he Uh, guys like coffin Ship right.

1186
01:11:00.119 --> 01:11:03.159
<v Speaker 3>It would cut these words out of magazines and newspapers

1187
01:11:03.199 --> 01:11:05.800
<v Speaker 3>and then scattered them all over the place, and then

1188
01:11:06.119 --> 01:11:08.079
<v Speaker 3>based off of where they were next to each other,

1189
01:11:08.119 --> 01:11:11.000
<v Speaker 3>he would get whole new meanings out of these words,

1190
01:11:11.560 --> 01:11:14.319
<v Speaker 3>and then that would sort of represent what he was

1191
01:11:14.479 --> 01:11:17.399
<v Speaker 3>divining for or you know, having to do with this ritual.

1192
01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:20.600
<v Speaker 3>And so we've interviewed a bunch of people from Temple

1193
01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:23.680
<v Speaker 3>a Set and they all swear by that method as

1194
01:11:23.760 --> 01:11:29.880
<v Speaker 3>sort of this pre planning phase in their magical rituals

1195
01:11:30.039 --> 01:11:33.760
<v Speaker 3>is using the cutup method to form new sentences and

1196
01:11:33.840 --> 01:11:35.600
<v Speaker 3>new ideas from what they were using.

1197
01:11:38.079 --> 01:11:40.399
<v Speaker 6>That's interesting. I would even see even with like basic

1198
01:11:40.479 --> 01:11:42.479
<v Speaker 6>shit like there was like just like certain things that

1199
01:11:42.600 --> 01:11:45.520
<v Speaker 6>like I remember form like news or like stories about

1200
01:11:45.560 --> 01:11:47.279
<v Speaker 6>Crolly or other people where it's just like all of

1201
01:11:47.319 --> 01:11:49.000
<v Speaker 6>a sudden, like all the things that are being told,

1202
01:11:49.039 --> 01:11:51.560
<v Speaker 6>it's like, wait, but that image is exactly what it's

1203
01:11:51.640 --> 01:11:54.960
<v Speaker 6>even start to wonder that you're putting together the bullshit

1204
01:11:55.039 --> 01:11:57.920
<v Speaker 6>that's even being put in front of your face, because

1205
01:11:57.920 --> 01:11:59.800
<v Speaker 6>you start to see how it actually makes sense in

1206
01:11:59.840 --> 01:12:02.039
<v Speaker 6>the tale that you've been looking at the whole fucking

1207
01:12:02.039 --> 01:12:05.520
<v Speaker 6>time but never fucking understood it. You see it being

1208
01:12:05.520 --> 01:12:07.920
<v Speaker 6>retold in so many different ways in TV and shit.

1209
01:12:13.199 --> 01:12:19.239
<v Speaker 1>Regarding regarding your research in in in Vampires, did you

1210
01:12:19.439 --> 01:12:23.319
<v Speaker 1>did you connect more or research more into the psychic

1211
01:12:23.399 --> 01:12:27.560
<v Speaker 1>vampire or into the classical term of the blood vampire.

1212
01:12:28.199 --> 01:12:32.119
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I guess it would be more of that I

1213
01:12:32.159 --> 01:12:34.319
<v Speaker 6>did cover at the beginning. I mean, this is the

1214
01:12:34.359 --> 01:12:38.079
<v Speaker 6>whole thing with this whole vampire as well. You will

1215
01:12:38.119 --> 01:12:41.880
<v Speaker 6>have these ancient gods and these religions that have something

1216
01:12:41.920 --> 01:12:43.840
<v Speaker 6>that's sort of like that is something that just either

1217
01:12:43.880 --> 01:12:47.399
<v Speaker 6>will suck your blood or sucks your energy, but when

1218
01:12:47.399 --> 01:12:50.960
<v Speaker 6>you start getting to when the word vampire was actually

1219
01:12:51.079 --> 01:12:55.760
<v Speaker 6>used a as somebody who died came back and sucks

1220
01:12:55.760 --> 01:13:00.520
<v Speaker 6>your blood. When you start looking at this and looking

1221
01:13:00.520 --> 01:13:03.840
<v Speaker 6>at people that have actually, you know, cases where bodies

1222
01:13:03.880 --> 01:13:07.800
<v Speaker 6>have been exhumed and things hearts pulled, motherfucker steaked, heart's

1223
01:13:07.800 --> 01:13:09.960
<v Speaker 6>pulled out, motherfucker's burned, or even you know, doing shit

1224
01:13:09.960 --> 01:13:14.119
<v Speaker 6>with the heart. All of this, any of these cases

1225
01:13:14.439 --> 01:13:21.159
<v Speaker 6>all followed tuberculosis or rabies. These people were scared the

1226
01:13:21.199 --> 01:13:24.039
<v Speaker 6>fucking death of what the fuck was going on, so

1227
01:13:24.039 --> 01:13:25.920
<v Speaker 6>they had to find a bad guy. They had to

1228
01:13:25.920 --> 01:13:28.399
<v Speaker 6>find a fucking you know, a solution which they were

1229
01:13:28.439 --> 01:13:30.279
<v Speaker 6>handed and some of them even come for court. The

1230
01:13:30.319 --> 01:13:32.239
<v Speaker 6>whole staking is for what you do to a murderer

1231
01:13:32.279 --> 01:13:35.640
<v Speaker 6>that came from fucking court. And then you take some

1232
01:13:35.720 --> 01:13:38.119
<v Speaker 6>of these old again going back to the ancient ones,

1233
01:13:38.159 --> 01:13:40.319
<v Speaker 6>you take some of their little bit of traditions and

1234
01:13:40.359 --> 01:13:42.720
<v Speaker 6>bring it into how you deal with it now. And

1235
01:13:42.760 --> 01:13:44.840
<v Speaker 6>this is how you sell the public to cure to

1236
01:13:44.920 --> 01:13:48.119
<v Speaker 6>their fucking manic over TV, and the cremators make a

1237
01:13:48.119 --> 01:13:49.479
<v Speaker 6>couple of fucking dollars out it too.

1238
01:13:51.039 --> 01:13:54.399
<v Speaker 1>But you have these cases in countries around.

1239
01:13:54.960 --> 01:13:58.199
<v Speaker 6>I have a Poland Russia, Like those motherfuckers were out

1240
01:13:58.279 --> 01:14:02.720
<v Speaker 6>during the day, so where's the sunlight fucking allergy to them? Sure,

1241
01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:06.439
<v Speaker 6>it's bullshit. What bram Stoker picked was like a few

1242
01:14:06.479 --> 01:14:08.720
<v Speaker 6>things out of like twenty fucking different things that have

1243
01:14:08.800 --> 01:14:11.800
<v Speaker 6>supposedly happened between like Rhode Island and a couple of

1244
01:14:11.880 --> 01:14:14.000
<v Speaker 6>other countries in Europe, and just was like, oh, this

1245
01:14:14.039 --> 01:14:16.720
<v Speaker 6>is gonna sound good, and like they were never sexualized

1246
01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:19.439
<v Speaker 6>or considered sexy, so we'll throw that in because the

1247
01:14:19.439 --> 01:14:21.960
<v Speaker 6>public loves sex, and we could just fucking hill on that.

1248
01:14:23.079 --> 01:14:28.479
<v Speaker 1>But you are aware that around the carpetents and even

1249
01:14:28.479 --> 01:14:33.239
<v Speaker 1>in some more dicent countries, we are finding these burials

1250
01:14:33.399 --> 01:14:37.359
<v Speaker 1>where the skeletons are not only maimed so they are

1251
01:14:37.399 --> 01:14:40.479
<v Speaker 1>completely tied. They put a huge rock in their mouth,

1252
01:14:40.560 --> 01:14:43.680
<v Speaker 1>They open their mouths and they put a huge rock in.

1253
01:14:43.760 --> 01:14:45.520
<v Speaker 6>I tol you that. Yeah, at one point when they

1254
01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:47.760
<v Speaker 6>thought that people might have been vampires, they stuck shit

1255
01:14:47.840 --> 01:14:49.800
<v Speaker 6>in their mouth, They lifted their fucking neck up, they

1256
01:14:49.800 --> 01:14:52.479
<v Speaker 6>bounded their fucking throat, all the silly shit because they

1257
01:14:52.479 --> 01:14:55.279
<v Speaker 6>thought they were gonna fucking That's one thing too. It's like, yo,

1258
01:14:55.319 --> 01:14:57.520
<v Speaker 6>where did we ever start thinking that something will just

1259
01:14:57.640 --> 01:15:01.479
<v Speaker 6>die and somehow magically come back to life, Like if

1260
01:15:01.479 --> 01:15:03.640
<v Speaker 6>something's dead, I mean like how like how is it?

1261
01:15:03.800 --> 01:15:06.600
<v Speaker 6>How is in an unanimated Oh again, that's something you

1262
01:15:06.640 --> 01:15:08.239
<v Speaker 6>and I weren't dead to fucking witness, So we don't

1263
01:15:08.239 --> 01:15:10.439
<v Speaker 6>know if it's true or not. You know what I'm saying.

1264
01:15:10.439 --> 01:15:13.439
<v Speaker 6>And we can go off fucking beliefs of faith, but

1265
01:15:13.520 --> 01:15:16.560
<v Speaker 6>I have I don't understand scientifically how something can die

1266
01:15:16.600 --> 01:15:19.680
<v Speaker 6>and then reanimate and move your body. You you're somehow

1267
01:15:19.680 --> 01:15:21.680
<v Speaker 6>your nervous system is gonna kick back in. You're gonna move,

1268
01:15:21.680 --> 01:15:24.600
<v Speaker 6>You're gonna fucking talk, You're gonna act normal. When I

1269
01:15:24.680 --> 01:15:28.640
<v Speaker 6>somebody explained to me, is science, how the fuck that's possible? Well,

1270
01:15:28.680 --> 01:15:31.840
<v Speaker 6>I have, if we want to go by old tales,

1271
01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:34.920
<v Speaker 6>but we haven't seen it in front of our faces

1272
01:15:34.920 --> 01:15:36.760
<v Speaker 6>in a long time to actual show proof, have we?

1273
01:15:38.119 --> 01:15:40.159
<v Speaker 6>None of this has been in our faces to show proof.

1274
01:15:40.840 --> 01:15:41.760
<v Speaker 6>They're old tails.

1275
01:15:42.920 --> 01:15:49.439
<v Speaker 2>Same, But didn't Alexander I and he was still alive,

1276
01:15:50.159 --> 01:15:51.199
<v Speaker 2>and I forget what.

1277
01:15:51.279 --> 01:15:53.439
<v Speaker 6>Oh people could be buried when they're not dead. I

1278
01:15:53.479 --> 01:15:54.760
<v Speaker 6>cover that that does happen.

1279
01:15:55.159 --> 01:15:58.319
<v Speaker 2>It's yeah, it's different, But I think Alexander was kind

1280
01:15:58.319 --> 01:16:03.520
<v Speaker 2>of in a stasis where he was alive but basically dying,

1281
01:16:04.680 --> 01:16:08.159
<v Speaker 2>And so they thought he was dead, and he stayed

1282
01:16:10.319 --> 01:16:13.560
<v Speaker 2>in a condition that was not depictive of a dead

1283
01:16:13.600 --> 01:16:16.680
<v Speaker 2>person for quite a long time. But he actually had

1284
01:16:16.880 --> 01:16:22.880
<v Speaker 2>this disease that kept him basically dead, immobile but almost like.

1285
01:16:23.119 --> 01:16:24.439
<v Speaker 4>Maybe he might might wake up.

1286
01:16:24.800 --> 01:16:27.159
<v Speaker 2>I forget what the disease was, but it was even

1287
01:16:28.279 --> 01:16:31.159
<v Speaker 2>just just something that people It.

1288
01:16:31.079 --> 01:16:34.359
<v Speaker 6>Was something about which is real cool. Just real quick, Ricardo,

1289
01:16:34.399 --> 01:16:36.199
<v Speaker 6>just real quick. I do want to throw this. I

1290
01:16:36.239 --> 01:16:38.359
<v Speaker 6>did add this in there. There was I forgot the

1291
01:16:38.439 --> 01:16:40.199
<v Speaker 6>name of it. It was a pelagor or something like that

1292
01:16:40.199 --> 01:16:42.119
<v Speaker 6>that was even common in certain areas, and and the

1293
01:16:42.159 --> 01:16:45.079
<v Speaker 6>side effect of that would actually be uh scally a

1294
01:16:45.119 --> 01:16:48.760
<v Speaker 6>flash of flaky skin and sensitivity to the sun. So

1295
01:16:48.800 --> 01:16:51.039
<v Speaker 6>I mean, like you're even taking things that are fucking

1296
01:16:51.119 --> 01:16:54.159
<v Speaker 6>problems from other issues and aiding into a vampire that

1297
01:16:54.199 --> 01:16:57.760
<v Speaker 6>we get in Dracula. That goes back to Vladi Impeller.

1298
01:16:57.840 --> 01:16:59.960
<v Speaker 6>He never fucking died and he never sucked blood. Why

1299
01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:03.279
<v Speaker 6>how the fuck are we making sense of that? Well,

1300
01:17:03.520 --> 01:17:06.039
<v Speaker 6>they because it's a cute fucking story.

1301
01:17:06.199 --> 01:17:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they put that because of the steaks. Because he

1302
01:17:09.880 --> 01:17:10.960
<v Speaker 1>killed these people and.

1303
01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:13.479
<v Speaker 6>Murderlory.

1304
01:17:13.760 --> 01:17:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1305
01:17:14.359 --> 01:17:18.159
<v Speaker 3>Also also body theft, so somebody stole his body and

1306
01:17:18.199 --> 01:17:20.359
<v Speaker 3>they went to ezuom It and it wasn't there. So

1307
01:17:21.319 --> 01:17:24.920
<v Speaker 3>they've had problems in that region with body theft a lot.

1308
01:17:25.880 --> 01:17:28.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that was the early years of medicine and

1309
01:17:28.520 --> 01:17:31.520
<v Speaker 1>they were stealing bodies to open them up and study

1310
01:17:31.560 --> 01:17:33.479
<v Speaker 1>them and all of that kind of stuff.

1311
01:17:33.520 --> 01:17:36.840
<v Speaker 6>Think about a few years ago Ricardo, people who were

1312
01:17:36.880 --> 01:17:40.199
<v Speaker 6>scared of people who got the shot started coming up

1313
01:17:40.239 --> 01:17:42.439
<v Speaker 6>with ideas that they're fucking flaking and they're going to

1314
01:17:42.479 --> 01:17:46.279
<v Speaker 6>get other people sick because they're fucking scared. What's the difference, Well.

1315
01:17:46.319 --> 01:17:50.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly the same thing. Come on, you have you

1316
01:17:50.399 --> 01:17:55.319
<v Speaker 1>have this belief from Christians that when the bodies did

1317
01:17:55.359 --> 01:17:59.680
<v Speaker 1>not decay, right, for instance, there is this convent of Karma.

1318
01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:00.920
<v Speaker 6>They understand ferenzos.

1319
01:18:01.520 --> 01:18:06.359
<v Speaker 1>Well, they have these bodies that people didn't decay, and

1320
01:18:06.399 --> 01:18:08.760
<v Speaker 1>the hair is still growing and the nails are still

1321
01:18:08.760 --> 01:18:11.039
<v Speaker 1>growing to this day, and they have three hundred years

1322
01:18:11.119 --> 01:18:14.600
<v Speaker 1>or four hundred years old, right, and they consider them saints.

1323
01:18:14.920 --> 01:18:18.239
<v Speaker 1>But in the past they could instead of considering them says,

1324
01:18:18.399 --> 01:18:21.560
<v Speaker 1>is it probably to do This guy still grazes up

1325
01:18:21.600 --> 01:18:23.840
<v Speaker 1>at night and goes about and is the reason why

1326
01:18:23.880 --> 01:18:24.840
<v Speaker 1>we have these situation.

1327
01:18:25.239 --> 01:18:27.880
<v Speaker 6>I covered the hair and nails stay. I'm not saying

1328
01:18:27.880 --> 01:18:30.119
<v Speaker 6>this is your situation, because there are types where that happens,

1329
01:18:30.119 --> 01:18:31.479
<v Speaker 6>and if you look at it, I do think like

1330
01:18:31.680 --> 01:18:32.840
<v Speaker 6>there was a thing I was going to cover with

1331
01:18:32.880 --> 01:18:35.920
<v Speaker 6>these monks that would to my opinion, they were, you know,

1332
01:18:36.800 --> 01:18:39.000
<v Speaker 6>experiencing magic. They're separating their soul from the body. And

1333
01:18:39.000 --> 01:18:41.600
<v Speaker 6>when they do eventually dye, their bodies like fucking maintain

1334
01:18:41.720 --> 01:18:44.560
<v Speaker 6>like for so long before they But besides that I

1335
01:18:44.600 --> 01:18:47.600
<v Speaker 6>did even cover back in the day, you didn't know

1336
01:18:47.680 --> 01:18:50.680
<v Speaker 6>that when someone dies, they may shrivel, so their nail

1337
01:18:50.720 --> 01:18:52.960
<v Speaker 6>beds will go back, which makes their nails look like

1338
01:18:52.960 --> 01:18:55.159
<v Speaker 6>they grow longer. And when their skins fucking sucks in,

1339
01:18:55.439 --> 01:18:57.399
<v Speaker 6>their hair might look like it grow a little bit longer.

1340
01:18:57.760 --> 01:18:59.760
<v Speaker 6>So like, And they didn't know that rigor mortis goes

1341
01:18:59.800 --> 01:19:02.359
<v Speaker 6>away after a while. So when they're opening up these corpses,

1342
01:19:02.399 --> 01:19:04.520
<v Speaker 6>it looks like they grew hair. Their nail beds are back,

1343
01:19:04.520 --> 01:19:06.960
<v Speaker 6>and they're not rigid anymore. Oh, they're a vampire.

1344
01:19:07.279 --> 01:19:08.159
<v Speaker 2>Burned the bitch.

1345
01:19:09.439 --> 01:19:12.560
<v Speaker 1>The fuck. Not only this case in the monastery, the

1346
01:19:12.600 --> 01:19:14.239
<v Speaker 1>hair is actually.

1347
01:19:14.439 --> 01:19:16.439
<v Speaker 6>No, I believe that. I believe that I have seen

1348
01:19:16.560 --> 01:19:17.000
<v Speaker 6>some of those.

1349
01:19:18.560 --> 01:19:22.279
<v Speaker 3>As the muscle tissue degrades as the body is decomposing,

1350
01:19:22.880 --> 01:19:24.279
<v Speaker 3>sometimes it will move.

1351
01:19:25.079 --> 01:19:25.720
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, so.

1352
01:19:26.680 --> 01:19:29.800
<v Speaker 3>That I mean that. That's enough for me to terrify

1353
01:19:29.800 --> 01:19:31.960
<v Speaker 3>the fuck out of me if I'm with a dead

1354
01:19:31.960 --> 01:19:36.119
<v Speaker 3>body and it starts to jolted. Man, dude, that's that's horrific.

1355
01:19:36.239 --> 01:19:36.439
<v Speaker 3>You know.

1356
01:19:36.960 --> 01:19:40.439
<v Speaker 1>We had a situation in the nineties where this famous

1357
01:19:40.520 --> 01:19:44.520
<v Speaker 1>musician was on tour in Portugal and he was sleeping

1358
01:19:44.560 --> 01:19:47.279
<v Speaker 1>on the back of a van. So they had a

1359
01:19:47.359 --> 01:19:51.119
<v Speaker 1>huge accident, right, and he was projected through the metal,

1360
01:19:51.399 --> 01:19:53.920
<v Speaker 1>through the side of the van, into the out into

1361
01:19:53.920 --> 01:19:57.960
<v Speaker 1>the outside, and he was declared death. But his wife

1362
01:19:58.039 --> 01:20:02.880
<v Speaker 1>never believed he was actually so she managed by court

1363
01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:07.439
<v Speaker 1>to get a permit to take the coffin out right

1364
01:20:07.479 --> 01:20:11.000
<v Speaker 1>because he didn't believe the guy was dead. And once

1365
01:20:11.079 --> 01:20:14.720
<v Speaker 1>they opened the coffin, it will all scratch, the body

1366
01:20:14.840 --> 01:20:18.560
<v Speaker 1>was all shriveled. Part of the guy woke up three

1367
01:20:18.640 --> 01:20:22.760
<v Speaker 1>days or four days later inside of the coffin under

1368
01:20:22.800 --> 01:20:25.359
<v Speaker 1>the earth. Because in Portugal they bury people very quickly.

1369
01:20:25.439 --> 01:20:28.479
<v Speaker 1>They don't wait the forty eight hours or something like that.

1370
01:20:28.520 --> 01:20:32.399
<v Speaker 1>Twenty four hours later, they could be cremated or already underground.

1371
01:20:32.520 --> 01:20:34.119
<v Speaker 6>Imaginely weren't then you got cremated.

1372
01:20:34.680 --> 01:20:39.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just insane. It's just insane. So after that happened,

1373
01:20:39.239 --> 01:20:42.840
<v Speaker 1>they increased the period because it was a national scandal.

1374
01:20:43.439 --> 01:20:45.840
<v Speaker 1>So they increased the period because the guy suffered. All

1375
01:20:46.159 --> 01:20:49.159
<v Speaker 1>the coffin was really all marked and so on. So

1376
01:20:49.760 --> 01:20:53.560
<v Speaker 1>it can happen. People can be declared dead and they

1377
01:20:53.640 --> 01:20:55.560
<v Speaker 1>wake up four or five days later.

1378
01:20:55.840 --> 01:20:57.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, there was things I even mentioned in there, how

1379
01:20:57.960 --> 01:21:00.359
<v Speaker 6>like people were known for that that would happen. Sometimes

1380
01:21:00.359 --> 01:21:04.079
<v Speaker 6>you'd even see that they'd start eating their arms or shit. Yeah,

1381
01:21:04.119 --> 01:21:06.159
<v Speaker 6>so they thought like that as a vampire or something,

1382
01:21:06.199 --> 01:21:07.600
<v Speaker 6>because you know, I don't know.

1383
01:21:08.119 --> 01:21:13.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, the books that I have on the current schools

1384
01:21:13.199 --> 01:21:17.880
<v Speaker 1>and churches of vampires, they all try to focus people

1385
01:21:18.079 --> 01:21:23.640
<v Speaker 1>into psychic vampires yea, and consensual so they will try

1386
01:21:23.680 --> 01:21:26.520
<v Speaker 1>to get you two or three followers and they allow

1387
01:21:26.600 --> 01:21:30.560
<v Speaker 1>you to suck that energy. But again, is a self

1388
01:21:30.640 --> 01:21:34.079
<v Speaker 1>actuation thing because you believe you want a vampire. There's

1389
01:21:34.159 --> 01:21:37.199
<v Speaker 1>nothing in there to tell you that you actually are one.

1390
01:21:37.479 --> 01:21:39.039
<v Speaker 6>That's a good point. I'm glad you brought this up.

1391
01:21:39.079 --> 01:21:41.479
<v Speaker 6>There was even something I mentioned that in some area

1392
01:21:41.600 --> 01:21:44.600
<v Speaker 6>they believe that during like if it wanted to come

1393
01:21:44.640 --> 01:21:47.359
<v Speaker 6>to you into your house, it would turn into I

1394
01:21:47.399 --> 01:21:48.680
<v Speaker 6>don't know, if it was like a needle, a hay

1395
01:21:48.760 --> 01:21:51.760
<v Speaker 6>or a feather and just go through your doorknob. So

1396
01:21:51.800 --> 01:21:55.319
<v Speaker 6>I'm like, so, where is the permission this one needs? Yes,

1397
01:21:55.720 --> 01:21:59.279
<v Speaker 6>come on, you know it's till looks like during the day,

1398
01:21:59.279 --> 01:22:01.560
<v Speaker 6>the guy has nose with the sun and it just

1399
01:22:02.119 --> 01:22:04.039
<v Speaker 6>goes right through your key hole. This guy, this guy

1400
01:22:04.159 --> 01:22:04.920
<v Speaker 6>must be top talk.

1401
01:22:06.119 --> 01:22:08.760
<v Speaker 1>So I think the problem with the sun is more

1402
01:22:08.880 --> 01:22:13.800
<v Speaker 1>like a folklore than actual actual lore among among people

1403
01:22:13.800 --> 01:22:17.560
<v Speaker 1>that believe they are vampires. Although if you relate and

1404
01:22:17.600 --> 01:22:20.680
<v Speaker 1>you study this for sure an your paper, the condition

1405
01:22:21.039 --> 01:22:27.399
<v Speaker 1>that makes you iron deficient also makes you sensitive to

1406
01:22:27.439 --> 01:22:30.960
<v Speaker 1>the sun. So these people that drink blood to get

1407
01:22:30.960 --> 01:22:34.319
<v Speaker 1>the iron from others people's right, because in these books

1408
01:22:34.319 --> 01:22:37.479
<v Speaker 1>they also speak of if you want to actually drink blood,

1409
01:22:37.600 --> 01:22:42.039
<v Speaker 1>also have people that will give it to you freely, right,

1410
01:22:43.359 --> 01:22:46.760
<v Speaker 1>And they and they feed out of this of the

1411
01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:51.119
<v Speaker 1>blood and they can regain the iron that their body

1412
01:22:51.159 --> 01:22:54.159
<v Speaker 1>is not able to produce, and that also gives them

1413
01:22:54.199 --> 01:22:56.479
<v Speaker 1>the sensibility to the sun. So I think at a

1414
01:22:56.520 --> 01:22:59.600
<v Speaker 1>certain point that people join one and one and thought

1415
01:22:59.640 --> 01:23:02.840
<v Speaker 1>it was all of them were incapable of being in

1416
01:23:02.880 --> 01:23:05.680
<v Speaker 1>the sun, which it doesn't make any sense.

1417
01:23:05.720 --> 01:23:10.279
<v Speaker 6>Wow, right, Yeah, that's really the only thing I think

1418
01:23:10.319 --> 01:23:12.560
<v Speaker 6>you really even absorb if you drink blood is the

1419
01:23:12.600 --> 01:23:13.920
<v Speaker 6>iron in the iron.

1420
01:23:14.000 --> 01:23:17.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it seems kind of archetypal.

1421
01:23:17.399 --> 01:23:19.079
<v Speaker 6>That's what I think. It's more of a story of

1422
01:23:19.119 --> 01:23:21.399
<v Speaker 6>somebody who actually had a magical experience and thought.

1423
01:23:22.479 --> 01:23:28.119
<v Speaker 1>Look of the many special people that I met in

1424
01:23:28.119 --> 01:23:33.199
<v Speaker 1>my journey, there is this fellow, this doctor is all

1425
01:23:33.479 --> 01:23:37.600
<v Speaker 1>eighty something years old, and he was talking about this

1426
01:23:37.760 --> 01:23:41.760
<v Speaker 1>ritual where they kill the bull when you're baptized as

1427
01:23:41.800 --> 01:23:44.760
<v Speaker 1>a soldier, and you were placed beneath the altar, and

1428
01:23:44.800 --> 01:23:47.720
<v Speaker 1>when they slaughtered the throat of the world, you were

1429
01:23:47.720 --> 01:23:48.600
<v Speaker 1>best in the.

1430
01:23:48.560 --> 01:23:50.840
<v Speaker 3>Bull's blood, right torribolium.

1431
01:23:51.439 --> 01:23:54.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that gave you a sensation of like cocaine

1432
01:23:54.239 --> 01:23:57.520
<v Speaker 1>almost because they would drink that and they'll feel that

1433
01:23:57.560 --> 01:24:00.159
<v Speaker 1>they are invincible, all covered in the bulls water or

1434
01:24:00.880 --> 01:24:05.359
<v Speaker 1>the blood of the bull. So the blood has been

1435
01:24:05.479 --> 01:24:08.880
<v Speaker 1>in these rituals for a long time, and I think

1436
01:24:08.880 --> 01:24:12.560
<v Speaker 1>that vampires are just a variant of the deviant. They

1437
01:24:12.800 --> 01:24:15.880
<v Speaker 1>what they considered the deviant because they were independent. They

1438
01:24:15.920 --> 01:24:18.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't serve anyone but themselves and their interests.

1439
01:24:19.039 --> 01:24:21.479
<v Speaker 3>That was all of the priests in Rome. They had

1440
01:24:21.479 --> 01:24:23.640
<v Speaker 3>to go through that. So even the priestesses too, they

1441
01:24:23.680 --> 01:24:25.960
<v Speaker 3>would go through the Toro volume and that was part

1442
01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:29.920
<v Speaker 3>of their sarcrificial thing going on. That was involved with

1443
01:24:30.079 --> 01:24:32.560
<v Speaker 3>a lot of the Etruscan stuff. So the trusts were

1444
01:24:32.600 --> 01:24:39.520
<v Speaker 3>really big in a blood ritual. They were weird.

1445
01:24:39.600 --> 01:24:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Were weird.

1446
01:24:40.079 --> 01:24:42.199
<v Speaker 3>The Etruscans were like ten times worse.

1447
01:24:45.960 --> 01:24:50.159
<v Speaker 1>And let's not forget that the now is now a king,

1448
01:24:50.319 --> 01:25:03.520
<v Speaker 1>right Charles, he is so Vlad the implater, the Impaler

1449
01:25:04.119 --> 01:25:09.159
<v Speaker 1>is his grandfather, aren't you knew that?

1450
01:25:11.600 --> 01:25:11.840
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

1451
01:25:12.239 --> 01:25:16.039
<v Speaker 1>So, I don't know how to say it properly in English.

1452
01:25:16.119 --> 01:25:22.399
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's grandfather and aunt, his grandfather's his grandfather's

1453
01:25:22.399 --> 01:25:27.960
<v Speaker 1>sister probably so his of his family, right two general

1454
01:25:28.000 --> 01:25:31.039
<v Speaker 1>two or three or four generations back or whatever. So

1455
01:25:31.680 --> 01:25:35.000
<v Speaker 1>he's hiss of the family. And he says it openly.

1456
01:25:35.159 --> 01:25:37.359
<v Speaker 1>So I didn't cut this and someone saying it. I

1457
01:25:37.399 --> 01:25:42.680
<v Speaker 1>caught you speaking about it on thinking about it, right, So,

1458
01:25:42.760 --> 01:25:45.399
<v Speaker 1>because then let's not forget that they were Germans. They

1459
01:25:45.479 --> 01:25:48.800
<v Speaker 1>changed the name to Windsors because of the World War,

1460
01:25:49.159 --> 01:25:51.319
<v Speaker 1>and they didn't want to be connected to that because

1461
01:25:51.319 --> 01:25:56.000
<v Speaker 1>they replaced the English bloodline with the German bloodline because

1462
01:25:56.119 --> 01:25:59.279
<v Speaker 1>there was no successor, so they moved from Germany into there.

1463
01:25:59.720 --> 01:26:02.640
<v Speaker 1>There actually Germans, I can't remember their actual family name,

1464
01:26:02.680 --> 01:26:05.399
<v Speaker 1>but they change it to Windsor after they go into

1465
01:26:05.479 --> 01:26:06.119
<v Speaker 1>into England.

1466
01:26:06.560 --> 01:26:11.079
<v Speaker 3>That's why they see Cobert and Gotha, Saxe, Coburg, gothers.

1467
01:26:13.199 --> 01:26:16.479
<v Speaker 1>So I think that even English people don't don't know

1468
01:26:17.399 --> 01:26:21.640
<v Speaker 1>that their leaders, their king is German family, not British family,

1469
01:26:21.640 --> 01:26:25.199
<v Speaker 1>because they keep the bloodline, so he's still German, right.

1470
01:26:26.079 --> 01:26:29.319
<v Speaker 3>And you know, it's a very interesting thing because Vladim

1471
01:26:29.319 --> 01:26:32.880
<v Speaker 3>Palo was a national hero. I mean, he's still revered

1472
01:26:33.119 --> 01:26:36.279
<v Speaker 3>as one of the like these Founding Father characters, and

1473
01:26:36.319 --> 01:26:38.720
<v Speaker 3>that that war that he had against the Turks, he

1474
01:26:38.880 --> 01:26:41.840
<v Speaker 3>was badly outnumbered and nobody wanted to give him support

1475
01:26:42.159 --> 01:26:45.960
<v Speaker 3>and he basically was the first terrorist warlord. And so

1476
01:26:46.079 --> 01:26:49.800
<v Speaker 3>his whole style and tactics were you know, almost revolutionary

1477
01:26:49.800 --> 01:26:52.520
<v Speaker 3>for the time and doing all that psychological ship by

1478
01:26:52.560 --> 01:26:56.239
<v Speaker 3>having a very brutal it was very brutal, but you know,

1479
01:26:56.279 --> 01:26:58.960
<v Speaker 3>he's going up against an army that was you know,

1480
01:26:59.159 --> 01:27:02.279
<v Speaker 3>outnumbering had to one, and he was still highly effective.

1481
01:27:02.359 --> 01:27:04.680
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you have to keep in mind that you

1482
01:27:04.720 --> 01:27:08.640
<v Speaker 1>have an army coming into his territory and go through

1483
01:27:08.680 --> 01:27:15.000
<v Speaker 1>these fields of impaled people like it's it's it's logical

1484
01:27:15.079 --> 01:27:18.600
<v Speaker 1>that someone started calling him something like a vampire because

1485
01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:23.359
<v Speaker 1>it was gory and and death in the most horrific way.

1486
01:27:23.399 --> 01:27:26.359
<v Speaker 1>Because it took hours to die because they stuck you

1487
01:27:26.600 --> 01:27:31.760
<v Speaker 1>from your scrutum and out of your neck right and

1488
01:27:31.800 --> 01:27:34.479
<v Speaker 1>then they raised you and stick the thing into the ground.

1489
01:27:34.520 --> 01:27:37.000
<v Speaker 1>It took tu three hours to die in that position.

1490
01:27:38.279 --> 01:27:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Put waights around your rest if they liked you, Nicki's

1491
01:27:41.560 --> 01:27:41.960
<v Speaker 1>in shock.

1492
01:27:43.439 --> 01:27:43.640
<v Speaker 6>Fuck.

1493
01:27:44.000 --> 01:27:46.199
<v Speaker 3>If they didn't like you, they wouldn't put me waits

1494
01:27:46.239 --> 01:27:49.760
<v Speaker 3>around your rest in your feet, but let it take

1495
01:27:49.760 --> 01:27:55.399
<v Speaker 3>a lot longer, horrific, dude. But also the terrain in

1496
01:27:55.800 --> 01:27:59.760
<v Speaker 3>uh Wallachia where he was at, was just absolutely brutal

1497
01:28:00.199 --> 01:28:03.760
<v Speaker 3>cliff faces everywhere. So the style of warfare that they

1498
01:28:03.800 --> 01:28:08.359
<v Speaker 3>were engaged in was mostly like seeded warfare and they

1499
01:28:08.359 --> 01:28:10.159
<v Speaker 3>were just trying to starve each other out and all

1500
01:28:10.199 --> 01:28:12.680
<v Speaker 3>the rest of this stuff. So having them have to

1501
01:28:12.800 --> 01:28:16.239
<v Speaker 3>fight throughout these bodies that are you know, basically the

1502
01:28:16.279 --> 01:28:19.319
<v Speaker 3>most horrific thing you've ever seen is just not going

1503
01:28:19.359 --> 01:28:21.439
<v Speaker 3>to make a very happy soldier. I'll tell you what.

1504
01:28:23.119 --> 01:28:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you'll be mentally destruct to say the least. Right,

1505
01:28:28.399 --> 01:28:31.439
<v Speaker 1>what are we facing all? What kind of animals are

1506
01:28:31.479 --> 01:28:38.239
<v Speaker 1>these people? Absolutely cruel and vicious, you know is but yeah,

1507
01:28:38.279 --> 01:28:39.560
<v Speaker 1>you could see where the.

1508
01:28:39.520 --> 01:28:43.640
<v Speaker 3>Whole New World Order gets its motivation. You know, maybe

1509
01:28:43.720 --> 01:28:46.640
<v Speaker 3>we just poison everybody just a little bit at a time,

1510
01:28:46.800 --> 01:28:49.880
<v Speaker 3>over generations and see what happens. You know, maybe we'll

1511
01:28:49.880 --> 01:28:54.239
<v Speaker 3>poison their food. It's brutal. Like the people who think

1512
01:28:54.279 --> 01:28:58.399
<v Speaker 3>this way are just absolute scumback, they're the scariest people

1513
01:28:58.399 --> 01:29:01.039
<v Speaker 3>throughout all of history, all the blood lines mixed together.

1514
01:29:01.319 --> 01:29:03.600
<v Speaker 1>When your scientist comes to you and say, look, we

1515
01:29:03.840 --> 01:29:08.920
<v Speaker 1>just found out that floor kills brain cells, so I

1516
01:29:08.920 --> 01:29:11.239
<v Speaker 1>think we should remove it. Remove it. No, no, no,

1517
01:29:12.199 --> 01:29:14.359
<v Speaker 1>put it in the water of the system. So they

1518
01:29:14.439 --> 01:29:18.479
<v Speaker 1>get dumb, and dumb people are very quicker. So that's

1519
01:29:18.479 --> 01:29:21.159
<v Speaker 1>the kind of mentality we had from the people ruling

1520
01:29:21.239 --> 01:29:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the world.

1521
01:29:22.560 --> 01:29:29.039
<v Speaker 3>Viciously competitive against everybody, including us. You know, they're competing

1522
01:29:29.079 --> 01:29:31.039
<v Speaker 3>against us on some level, so they want to make

1523
01:29:31.119 --> 01:29:33.720
<v Speaker 3>us stupid and everything else and we're we're kind of

1524
01:29:33.720 --> 01:29:35.880
<v Speaker 3>the last target because they've brought out of stuff to

1525
01:29:35.920 --> 01:29:39.199
<v Speaker 3>do overseas, they're out of money. Sell now, now's the

1526
01:29:39.239 --> 01:29:41.079
<v Speaker 3>time to really attack us mentally.

1527
01:29:41.720 --> 01:29:44.199
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't forget. Don't forget the words that I got

1528
01:29:44.199 --> 01:29:49.239
<v Speaker 1>from the culture representative in Portugal, from the government, that

1529
01:29:49.359 --> 01:29:52.439
<v Speaker 1>is their final. After I've been rejected so many times

1530
01:29:52.520 --> 01:29:55.319
<v Speaker 1>in different places, I finally got to the ultimate incidence

1531
01:29:55.720 --> 01:29:58.199
<v Speaker 1>to see if I was approved in my project, and

1532
01:29:58.279 --> 01:30:01.359
<v Speaker 1>she told me, you have to understand it. Our interests

1533
01:30:01.479 --> 01:30:05.600
<v Speaker 1>is not to increase the population's knowledge, but to decrease it.

1534
01:30:09.039 --> 01:30:13.640
<v Speaker 1>She's and the same person would come, by chance, was

1535
01:30:13.680 --> 01:30:17.000
<v Speaker 1>the one who gave the speech when my two my

1536
01:30:17.079 --> 01:30:20.479
<v Speaker 1>twins changed school and went to the secondary. She was

1537
01:30:20.479 --> 01:30:23.039
<v Speaker 1>the one giving the speech of how important is education

1538
01:30:23.520 --> 01:30:28.439
<v Speaker 1>culture for creating the world of tomorrow. That's the same person. Okay,

1539
01:30:28.520 --> 01:30:32.399
<v Speaker 1>so what more can I tell you?

1540
01:30:33.600 --> 01:30:37.640
<v Speaker 3>The bureaucracy makes these evil people think that they can

1541
01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:40.479
<v Speaker 3>just brainwash everybody.

1542
01:30:42.279 --> 01:30:44.039
<v Speaker 4>I was thinking about, But they are not.

1543
01:30:44.520 --> 01:30:47.239
<v Speaker 1>That's secretives about their actions.

1544
01:30:48.399 --> 01:30:48.960
<v Speaker 3>They don't need it.

1545
01:30:50.479 --> 01:30:56.840
<v Speaker 2>In relation to actual like the biological parasitism that is

1546
01:30:57.239 --> 01:31:04.479
<v Speaker 2>the vampire idea and the psychic energetic Paris Paris setism

1547
01:31:04.680 --> 01:31:09.159
<v Speaker 2>that there is in that the permission idea is almost

1548
01:31:09.319 --> 01:31:15.640
<v Speaker 2>like if you're weak, because in nature, you like the

1549
01:31:15.640 --> 01:31:18.840
<v Speaker 2>permission you give for an animal to attack you, is

1550
01:31:19.640 --> 01:31:24.159
<v Speaker 2>that you're you're weak, you're not grounded. Same thing with

1551
01:31:24.279 --> 01:31:29.800
<v Speaker 2>the psychic attacks. When you're not grounded, they don't they

1552
01:31:30.039 --> 01:31:31.880
<v Speaker 2>ain't going to ask you like can I come in?

1553
01:31:32.239 --> 01:31:37.199
<v Speaker 2>The permission I think is are you open? Right? Are

1554
01:31:37.279 --> 01:31:42.319
<v Speaker 2>you energetically weak? And to that point, with the political

1555
01:31:44.319 --> 01:31:49.520
<v Speaker 2>attacks that we get usually from internal institutions, not external ones,

1556
01:31:50.039 --> 01:31:55.520
<v Speaker 2>it's the permission is a toleration. How much we will

1557
01:31:55.600 --> 01:31:59.359
<v Speaker 2>tolerate is how much we give the permission to these

1558
01:31:59.359 --> 01:32:03.039
<v Speaker 2>institutions to dose us with floriad and so on and

1559
01:32:03.079 --> 01:32:06.439
<v Speaker 2>so forth. Right, So it's like toleration and permission and

1560
01:32:06.479 --> 01:32:11.119
<v Speaker 2>weakness is kind of like like when we stand up

1561
01:32:11.279 --> 01:32:17.319
<v Speaker 2>in a unity and formation against uh, you know, tolerating immorality,

1562
01:32:17.800 --> 01:32:19.119
<v Speaker 2>things shift.

1563
01:32:18.920 --> 01:32:23.039
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah. But in terms of individuals, and I'm sure

1564
01:32:23.159 --> 01:32:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Nick found this in his studies, is that there are

1565
01:32:26.960 --> 01:32:31.359
<v Speaker 1>people that are naturally inclined to drain others energetically. So

1566
01:32:31.399 --> 01:32:34.600
<v Speaker 1>how many times we heard about saying I like that guy,

1567
01:32:34.640 --> 01:32:37.359
<v Speaker 1>but I came completely drained when I'm so and these

1568
01:32:37.359 --> 01:32:40.279
<v Speaker 1>people are not making on purpose, or most of them aren't,

1569
01:32:40.680 --> 01:32:44.159
<v Speaker 1>but even even in couples, that one of them feels

1570
01:32:44.159 --> 01:32:49.479
<v Speaker 1>completely drained. Right, because there's people that are actually inclined.

1571
01:32:49.600 --> 01:32:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Instead of having a uniform field, they constantly feed of

1572
01:32:54.119 --> 01:32:57.399
<v Speaker 1>all these people's fields, So they put out people make

1573
01:32:57.479 --> 01:33:01.560
<v Speaker 1>them weaker or drain or headaches or whatever you want

1574
01:33:01.560 --> 01:33:03.319
<v Speaker 1>to call it. It happens that there are people that

1575
01:33:03.359 --> 01:33:08.359
<v Speaker 1>are naturally inclined to drain other people's energy. Did you

1576
01:33:08.399 --> 01:33:09.800
<v Speaker 1>find that, nick on your studies?

1577
01:33:11.520 --> 01:33:14.319
<v Speaker 6>That? I mean that, I mean, I know about just

1578
01:33:14.359 --> 01:33:16.600
<v Speaker 6>the general anyway, but again I didn't go from that angle.

1579
01:33:16.640 --> 01:33:19.760
<v Speaker 6>I went from just the original bloodsucking, that whole vampire thing.

1580
01:33:19.800 --> 01:33:23.079
<v Speaker 6>But I mean no, I mean I've just I myself,

1581
01:33:23.079 --> 01:33:24.960
<v Speaker 6>I've probably done that to people, and I've had people

1582
01:33:25.000 --> 01:33:27.119
<v Speaker 6>do it to me. I mean, it's just quite obvious

1583
01:33:27.239 --> 01:33:28.520
<v Speaker 6>that shit happens.

1584
01:33:29.239 --> 01:33:34.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and sometimes people feed of each other, Yes, for

1585
01:33:34.520 --> 01:33:39.720
<v Speaker 1>instant friendships or loves that they constantly are changing their

1586
01:33:40.239 --> 01:33:43.680
<v Speaker 1>energy and that makes them stronger instead of weaker. It

1587
01:33:43.680 --> 01:33:48.399
<v Speaker 1>gives them the sort of a connection. Yes, In the essence,

1588
01:33:48.439 --> 01:33:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I think it's all a matter of frequency. It just

1589
01:33:51.560 --> 01:33:52.560
<v Speaker 1>depends on that.

1590
01:33:54.199 --> 01:33:56.520
<v Speaker 6>One other thing. I didn't want to I'll just mention

1591
01:33:56.560 --> 01:33:57.960
<v Speaker 6>I wasn't gonna say it before because I was like,

1592
01:33:58.000 --> 01:34:00.880
<v Speaker 6>I'll just leave it for the show. But it doesn't matter. Uh,

1593
01:34:01.119 --> 01:34:03.159
<v Speaker 6>you were talking about the blood drinking in the Iron.

1594
01:34:04.560 --> 01:34:07.000
<v Speaker 6>The blood drinking was even a fucking that was even

1595
01:34:07.000 --> 01:34:08.840
<v Speaker 6>a way of getting rid of TV around the same

1596
01:34:08.880 --> 01:34:17.880
<v Speaker 6>time people were freaking out about fucking vampires. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yo,

1597
01:34:17.920 --> 01:34:20.920
<v Speaker 6>you'd have women lining up to drink pigs blood, pigs

1598
01:34:20.920 --> 01:34:22.800
<v Speaker 6>blood in eighteen seventies thinking that she was going to

1599
01:34:22.840 --> 01:34:29.319
<v Speaker 6>stop them from getting fucking TV. Heah, man, Even drinking

1600
01:34:29.319 --> 01:34:32.159
<v Speaker 6>the blood was a way of curing TV. But somehow

1601
01:34:32.159 --> 01:34:32.960
<v Speaker 6>now vampires.

1602
01:34:34.479 --> 01:34:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, I like to think that considering who foopolarized, it

1603
01:34:39.000 --> 01:34:46.119
<v Speaker 1>was Bram Stoker and his connections to special in high

1604
01:34:46.159 --> 01:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>echelon groups, he probably knew something we don't at at

1605
01:34:52.640 --> 01:34:54.760
<v Speaker 1>the beginning of our understanding of the hour.

1606
01:34:54.920 --> 01:34:56.640
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, of course he was out of the game.

1607
01:34:57.239 --> 01:35:01.640
<v Speaker 1>There there is some half truth there or or half flies.

1608
01:35:04.880 --> 01:35:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, But I think you are absolutely right

1609
01:35:07.760 --> 01:35:10.560
<v Speaker 1>because but the fact is that has to have a source.

1610
01:35:11.840 --> 01:35:14.800
<v Speaker 1>All of that fear has a source that is not

1611
01:35:14.960 --> 01:35:20.319
<v Speaker 1>necessarily the disease, but has some folklore that led them

1612
01:35:20.319 --> 01:35:23.720
<v Speaker 1>to that conclusion. Oh, that guide happens because that guy

1613
01:35:24.239 --> 01:35:27.039
<v Speaker 1>has this condition. The idea of that condition had to

1614
01:35:27.039 --> 01:35:29.920
<v Speaker 1>come for some place like tubercu losses and rabies that

1615
01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:34.399
<v Speaker 1>you're talking. They associated with some folklore that probably was

1616
01:35:34.680 --> 01:35:35.840
<v Speaker 1>half known at that time.

1617
01:35:37.840 --> 01:35:40.800
<v Speaker 3>Well, to get into bram Stoker a little bit, he

1618
01:35:40.920 --> 01:35:46.279
<v Speaker 3>was kind of doing Parachristian mythology. So you know, Dracula

1619
01:35:46.399 --> 01:35:49.119
<v Speaker 3>had to stay out of hell. So this is how

1620
01:35:49.119 --> 01:35:52.760
<v Speaker 3>he survived is drinking the blood of the living. So

1621
01:35:52.800 --> 01:35:54.680
<v Speaker 3>he didn't want to have his soul go to Hell,

1622
01:35:54.880 --> 01:35:57.680
<v Speaker 3>so he figured out a way to stay alive using

1623
01:35:57.800 --> 01:36:00.159
<v Speaker 3>living other people. So well, I.

1624
01:36:00.119 --> 01:36:05.039
<v Speaker 1>Find it more interesting because he refused to die, which

1625
01:36:05.039 --> 01:36:07.880
<v Speaker 1>to me is a very interesting concept. It's like getting

1626
01:36:07.880 --> 01:36:11.840
<v Speaker 1>out of the will of time. And basically it falls

1627
01:36:11.840 --> 01:36:15.239
<v Speaker 1>into the biology of belief and again self actuation, because

1628
01:36:15.279 --> 01:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>if you believe you can constantly resonate yourself, even if

1629
01:36:18.880 --> 01:36:22.079
<v Speaker 1>you need to dig someone's blood to do it, it's

1630
01:36:22.159 --> 01:36:26.039
<v Speaker 1>still a process of self actuation. So and considering this

1631
01:36:26.119 --> 01:36:28.319
<v Speaker 1>is a bias suit that will do whatever you believe

1632
01:36:28.319 --> 01:36:32.199
<v Speaker 1>it will do, the healing or ever it can be

1633
01:36:32.279 --> 01:36:35.439
<v Speaker 1>achieved through real self actuation if you actually believe in

1634
01:36:35.520 --> 01:36:37.800
<v Speaker 1>it right, and then it will becomes a cult because

1635
01:36:37.800 --> 01:36:40.399
<v Speaker 1>other people realize it can happen and helps them to

1636
01:36:40.640 --> 01:36:43.560
<v Speaker 1>create that self actualization to themselves.

1637
01:36:44.119 --> 01:36:48.159
<v Speaker 3>You mean like that other will Leedgie and noble, you know,

1638
01:36:48.760 --> 01:36:53.840
<v Speaker 3>or is a bit battery for instance, as she was

1639
01:36:53.840 --> 01:36:56.159
<v Speaker 3>bathing in the blood of these virgins that she would

1640
01:36:56.159 --> 01:36:57.600
<v Speaker 3>take from town, yeah.

1641
01:36:57.479 --> 01:36:58.319
<v Speaker 1>To give them beauty.

1642
01:36:58.640 --> 01:37:02.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, oh yeah, somebody somebody was telling me there it did.

1643
01:37:02.039 --> 01:37:04.000
<v Speaker 6>It wasn't show why I didn't include that in my

1644
01:37:04.079 --> 01:37:05.840
<v Speaker 6>Vampire Lord And I was like, the bitch didn't die

1645
01:37:05.840 --> 01:37:08.760
<v Speaker 6>first again, you have to die.

1646
01:37:11.920 --> 01:37:15.199
<v Speaker 1>Well immortal, then you don't have to die, right.

1647
01:37:15.119 --> 01:37:17.119
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, Well, I mean that's the whole thing behind

1648
01:37:17.159 --> 01:37:19.479
<v Speaker 6>I mean, these people are getting exhoomed. They're supposed to

1649
01:37:19.520 --> 01:37:23.000
<v Speaker 6>be dead. She never died, bitch, never in a box.

1650
01:37:23.119 --> 01:37:26.119
<v Speaker 6>It's not a vampire in that sense.

1651
01:37:26.640 --> 01:37:30.640
<v Speaker 1>In that sense, Yeah, that's an interesting concept because it is.

1652
01:37:30.680 --> 01:37:32.840
<v Speaker 6>That's the part of most of.

1653
01:37:32.760 --> 01:37:36.199
<v Speaker 1>Them that probably believe themselves vampires have never died, and

1654
01:37:36.399 --> 01:37:38.319
<v Speaker 1>that's one of the reasons they are considered to be.

1655
01:37:38.800 --> 01:37:44.119
<v Speaker 1>But you could say that since Germain was taught in

1656
01:37:44.159 --> 01:37:46.279
<v Speaker 1>the art of becoming a vampire, right.

1657
01:37:46.359 --> 01:37:48.039
<v Speaker 6>See him, I would say, why not be closer to

1658
01:37:48.079 --> 01:37:48.800
<v Speaker 6>a real one than.

1659
01:37:49.800 --> 01:37:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because if you see the Vampire Diary, the one

1660
01:37:53.920 --> 01:37:57.760
<v Speaker 1>with Tom Cruise, right, you were shown that vampires were

1661
01:37:57.840 --> 01:38:02.720
<v Speaker 1>very charismatic people, very knowledgeable, They are very intelligent. So

1662
01:38:02.760 --> 01:38:05.039
<v Speaker 1>it's it's like the old saying that says the devil

1663
01:38:05.520 --> 01:38:07.920
<v Speaker 1>is not wise because it's the devil. The devil is

1664
01:38:07.960 --> 01:38:12.399
<v Speaker 1>wise because it's very old, right, so we learned the

1665
01:38:12.439 --> 01:38:16.159
<v Speaker 1>beginning of time. It's so Satan is probably the first

1666
01:38:16.239 --> 01:38:19.800
<v Speaker 1>vampire in history because it's the first one not to die, right,

1667
01:38:20.319 --> 01:38:24.439
<v Speaker 1>I like that? Oh fucking Satan.

1668
01:38:24.800 --> 01:38:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Goddamn So.

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01:38:27.600 --> 01:38:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Like that. I think that's the base of the Luciferian

1670
01:38:32.199 --> 01:38:35.920
<v Speaker 1>real religion, is the fact that they're looking for immortality

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01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:39.159
<v Speaker 1>the same way he did. Well, if you.

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01:38:39.159 --> 01:38:41.359
<v Speaker 3>Wouldn't have brought brought it it out a little bit

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01:38:41.439 --> 01:38:44.359
<v Speaker 3>more like if you think about the gods before the Bible,

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01:38:44.680 --> 01:38:49.199
<v Speaker 3>these immortal creatures that had these special powers, they were

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01:38:49.239 --> 01:38:51.920
<v Speaker 3>almost more like vampires than what we think of with

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01:38:52.000 --> 01:38:54.279
<v Speaker 3>the philosophical platonic god.

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01:38:54.399 --> 01:39:00.479
<v Speaker 1>Right, Well, they are not immortal. They still die if injured. Back,

1678
01:39:01.680 --> 01:39:05.239
<v Speaker 1>not all of them, but yes, some of them. Yeah, yeah,

1679
01:39:05.279 --> 01:39:06.239
<v Speaker 1>that's a big part of it.

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01:39:07.640 --> 01:39:10.239
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, that's I even put that out with the gods,

1681
01:39:10.279 --> 01:39:12.239
<v Speaker 6>like going to the younger world and coming back. I'm like,

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01:39:12.279 --> 01:39:14.520
<v Speaker 6>you know, just kind of have almost a whole vampire

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01:39:14.520 --> 01:39:15.279
<v Speaker 6>ship there. Again.

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01:39:15.439 --> 01:39:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, when I said that you can die, it's injured,

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01:39:18.159 --> 01:39:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying from natural causes. They can go in

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01:39:21.960 --> 01:39:26.159
<v Speaker 1>battle and be killed and stay that right, but they

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01:39:26.159 --> 01:39:29.000
<v Speaker 1>can come back from small injuries or a little bit

1688
01:39:29.079 --> 01:39:34.119
<v Speaker 1>like Wolverine if you want to. Yeah, So it's it's

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01:39:34.159 --> 01:39:40.960
<v Speaker 1>it's not about a special metaphysical thing, but it's more

1690
01:39:41.079 --> 01:39:44.319
<v Speaker 1>like a self actuation or healing body healing thing that

1691
01:39:44.760 --> 01:39:48.840
<v Speaker 1>keeps regenerating yourselves, right, like you instruct your own body

1692
01:39:48.880 --> 01:39:52.520
<v Speaker 1>constantly not to go old or to regenerate or stay

1693
01:39:52.520 --> 01:39:57.359
<v Speaker 1>in a certain age. So like a Eucharist of sorts. Yes,

1694
01:39:59.319 --> 01:40:04.199
<v Speaker 1>come on, I had to go there. So vamporism can

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01:40:04.239 --> 01:40:09.199
<v Speaker 1>be applied much more widely than just to the narrow

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01:40:09.279 --> 01:40:12.000
<v Speaker 1>that Brent Stoker all made us look into.

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01:40:12.399 --> 01:40:12.439
<v Speaker 2>That.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I mean about half Truce, because I think

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01:40:15.039 --> 01:40:20.680
<v Speaker 1>it's this is a much broader subject than just focused

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01:40:20.680 --> 01:40:23.840
<v Speaker 1>to a creature that raises from a coffin and brings

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01:40:23.880 --> 01:40:28.680
<v Speaker 1>people's blood. That's a simplifying version and the folklore associated

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01:40:28.720 --> 01:40:29.079
<v Speaker 1>with it.

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01:40:29.479 --> 01:40:31.199
<v Speaker 6>So I even think I covered like one thing called

1704
01:40:31.199 --> 01:40:33.239
<v Speaker 6>the oopry or whatever, it's very close to vampire. Like

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01:40:33.239 --> 01:40:35.359
<v Speaker 6>that wasn't sucking your blood. It was an energetic one,

1706
01:40:35.920 --> 01:40:37.439
<v Speaker 6>you know what I'm saying, Like even most of like

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01:40:37.640 --> 01:40:39.079
<v Speaker 6>I think, like what you're getting at, I mean, it

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01:40:39.119 --> 01:40:41.159
<v Speaker 6>leaves out the whole energetic sense, which is where I

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01:40:41.199 --> 01:40:43.319
<v Speaker 6>think a lot of that's kind of explained with the

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01:40:43.359 --> 01:40:44.479
<v Speaker 6>older gods and stuff.

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01:40:45.039 --> 01:40:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Sure, and Nick supporting your thesis, you have the case

1712
01:40:47.680 --> 01:40:51.680
<v Speaker 1>of this bat that has those prumanine teas and causes

1713
01:40:51.760 --> 01:40:56.520
<v Speaker 1>rabies very often, right, So that's the the associations of

1714
01:40:56.640 --> 01:40:59.319
<v Speaker 1>oh this this this guy is biting other people.

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01:41:00.039 --> 01:41:01.520
<v Speaker 6>But I didn't even go into the whole bad things

1716
01:41:01.520 --> 01:41:02.640
<v Speaker 6>that it would have made. It look like I was

1717
01:41:02.680 --> 01:41:04.399
<v Speaker 6>really laid into it. But like even the whole thing,

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01:41:04.399 --> 01:41:06.039
<v Speaker 6>it's like, oh, this motherfucker turns into a bat and

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01:41:06.079 --> 01:41:06.880
<v Speaker 6>then back into a person.

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01:41:06.920 --> 01:41:11.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, but the bat comes from that specific.

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01:41:11.479 --> 01:41:13.800
<v Speaker 6>With the raves and everything. Yeah, maybe I should I

1722
01:41:13.800 --> 01:41:15.560
<v Speaker 6>should edited a five minute edit on that.

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01:41:15.720 --> 01:41:19.479
<v Speaker 3>You got me thinking that babies.

1724
01:41:19.000 --> 01:41:21.319
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I never even realized the whole raveis and bad thing,

1725
01:41:21.359 --> 01:41:26.119
<v Speaker 6>but I know, and COVID, Fuck yo, what was they

1726
01:41:26.119 --> 01:41:28.199
<v Speaker 6>say that people were thinking about. The fuckers were flaking

1727
01:41:28.239 --> 01:41:31.239
<v Speaker 6>and you're gonna get fucking sick, bro the fuck same ship.

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01:41:32.159 --> 01:41:33.600
<v Speaker 6>As I was doing it, I was like, oh, this

1729
01:41:33.640 --> 01:41:34.399
<v Speaker 6>sounds like COVID.

1730
01:41:37.359 --> 01:41:38.199
<v Speaker 3>It's so strange.

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01:41:38.239 --> 01:41:40.720
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, like on both sides the ship, people thought they

1732
01:41:40.760 --> 01:41:43.720
<v Speaker 6>had to do fucking stay alive or not catch something.

1733
01:41:43.760 --> 01:41:44.479
<v Speaker 6>On both sides.

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01:41:45.399 --> 01:41:49.079
<v Speaker 3>If you really branch out with all of the vampire

1735
01:41:49.119 --> 01:41:52.760
<v Speaker 3>symbolism that you can imagine, it almost permeates every layer

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01:41:52.840 --> 01:41:55.000
<v Speaker 3>of society, just just a little.

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01:41:54.800 --> 01:41:58.880
<v Speaker 6>Bit, well, a lot of little stories probably, do you know,

1738
01:41:59.079 --> 01:42:01.319
<v Speaker 6>even just looking at les, I'm sure see I was

1739
01:42:01.319 --> 01:42:02.159
<v Speaker 6>even thinking about that.

1740
01:42:02.199 --> 01:42:06.319
<v Speaker 1>But well, corruption, corruption feeds itself from the public, so

1741
01:42:06.359 --> 01:42:08.199
<v Speaker 1>it's a kind of empiism itself.

1742
01:42:08.479 --> 01:42:12.039
<v Speaker 3>Think about Think about when you're at a haunted house, right,

1743
01:42:12.319 --> 01:42:15.840
<v Speaker 3>you get all of these batteries that drained out immediately. Well,

1744
01:42:15.840 --> 01:42:18.800
<v Speaker 3>people experience that effect too. You could be walking through

1745
01:42:18.800 --> 01:42:20.560
<v Speaker 3>one of these places and then all of a sudden

1746
01:42:20.560 --> 01:42:22.800
<v Speaker 3>you get hit and you lose all of your energy.

1747
01:42:22.840 --> 01:42:24.359
<v Speaker 3>You just feel like you need to pass out.

1748
01:42:25.239 --> 01:42:29.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, I can tell you a very curious saying, probably

1749
01:42:29.239 --> 01:42:32.159
<v Speaker 1>to when the show that one of the places that

1750
01:42:32.199 --> 01:42:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I can say what I was. When I was in

1751
01:42:35.319 --> 01:42:38.840
<v Speaker 1>my trip, I visit a place where they say that

1752
01:42:38.880 --> 01:42:42.520
<v Speaker 1>the Sasquatch uses a portal to leave that area of

1753
01:42:42.520 --> 01:42:46.359
<v Speaker 1>the country, right, And I was. I was right in

1754
01:42:46.399 --> 01:42:48.720
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the portal, and I filmed all around me.

1755
01:42:48.800 --> 01:42:51.319
<v Speaker 1>I took pictures, and then I noticed there is this

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01:42:51.439 --> 01:42:57.159
<v Speaker 1>megalist that is stumbled instead of being erected. And I

1757
01:42:57.199 --> 01:43:00.359
<v Speaker 1>went there. There's a hole so that it was very

1758
01:43:00.399 --> 01:43:02.920
<v Speaker 1>recently removed, and there is no more rope marks on

1759
01:43:02.960 --> 01:43:06.560
<v Speaker 1>the megalids, there is no machinery marks on the mag

1760
01:43:06.680 --> 01:43:09.119
<v Speaker 1>that all of the moss is intact, and it's not

1761
01:43:09.560 --> 01:43:13.760
<v Speaker 1>tumbled from the hole, is moved like two feet away

1762
01:43:13.800 --> 01:43:16.119
<v Speaker 1>from the hole, like it was lifted in the air

1763
01:43:16.359 --> 01:43:20.239
<v Speaker 1>by magic and softly placed on earth. Right. And I

1764
01:43:20.279 --> 01:43:22.960
<v Speaker 1>asked the guy that took us there, do you know

1765
01:43:23.000 --> 01:43:25.960
<v Speaker 1>if the megalid that the stone that now is stumbled

1766
01:43:26.880 --> 01:43:33.039
<v Speaker 1>was erected. Yeah, it was erected. So apparently they activate

1767
01:43:33.079 --> 01:43:36.720
<v Speaker 1>and they activate this portal by placing the megalith in

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01:43:36.760 --> 01:43:39.600
<v Speaker 1>place or taking it out of the place, right, Because

1769
01:43:39.840 --> 01:43:42.159
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of folklore in that area of even

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01:43:42.199 --> 01:43:48.880
<v Speaker 1>animals going through the point disappearing, right, so stone key, yeah,

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01:43:49.600 --> 01:43:52.359
<v Speaker 1>a stone key. And I found it interesting that they

1772
01:43:52.359 --> 01:43:54.720
<v Speaker 1>say that the sasquat doesn't stay in that area for

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01:43:54.760 --> 01:43:57.159
<v Speaker 1>the winter. They move into another place, and that's how

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01:43:57.159 --> 01:43:59.920
<v Speaker 1>they move from there, they go through the portal.

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01:44:00.039 --> 01:44:04.119
<v Speaker 2>How deep it was the hole? Sorry, how deep is

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01:44:04.159 --> 01:44:04.520
<v Speaker 2>the hole?

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01:44:05.720 --> 01:44:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Probably two to three feet round the sape of the

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01:44:10.039 --> 01:44:13.399
<v Speaker 1>exact same shade of the of the monolith by its space.

1779
01:44:15.079 --> 01:44:18.359
<v Speaker 1>So I didn't felt anything. I was right in the

1780
01:44:18.359 --> 01:44:20.760
<v Speaker 1>middle of it and has no power at all. There

1781
01:44:20.800 --> 01:44:25.079
<v Speaker 1>was another place near it that has this clearly artificially

1782
01:44:25.119 --> 01:44:29.880
<v Speaker 1>placed triangular stone, and there the power was very It's

1783
01:44:29.960 --> 01:44:33.199
<v Speaker 1>like goosebumps without without your skin reacting, you get kind

1784
01:44:33.239 --> 01:44:35.399
<v Speaker 1>of numbin and you feel it coming from your knees,

1785
01:44:35.560 --> 01:44:38.920
<v Speaker 1>from your ankles and knees and going up. Even the

1786
01:44:39.399 --> 01:44:42.239
<v Speaker 1>camera guy had an experience there. He was he was

1787
01:44:42.279 --> 01:44:44.359
<v Speaker 1>not a believer, but he went out of there as

1788
01:44:44.399 --> 01:44:47.520
<v Speaker 1>a believer, even had loss of time and space. I

1789
01:44:47.560 --> 01:44:49.239
<v Speaker 1>had to call him in the distance and we are

1790
01:44:49.399 --> 01:44:54.079
<v Speaker 1>just incomplete visible of one another, and it was completely lost.

1791
01:44:54.079 --> 01:44:55.600
<v Speaker 1>When he came out of there. He didn't know where

1792
01:44:55.640 --> 01:45:02.920
<v Speaker 1>it was or so, yeah, he did changes the electromagnetic field,

1793
01:45:02.920 --> 01:45:05.840
<v Speaker 1>he had a device to measure it, and the compass

1794
01:45:05.880 --> 01:45:08.000
<v Speaker 1>doesn't work there. And in fact, the guy tried to

1795
01:45:08.000 --> 01:45:12.880
<v Speaker 1>fight a drone through the through the through the portal

1796
01:45:13.800 --> 01:45:18.279
<v Speaker 1>and the battery was already low, but it was supposed

1797
01:45:18.279 --> 01:45:20.760
<v Speaker 1>to last for much longer, and as soon as he

1798
01:45:20.840 --> 01:45:23.640
<v Speaker 1>goes into close of it, it just died. That the

1799
01:45:23.920 --> 01:45:30.079
<v Speaker 1>the controller died, so he couldn't he couldn't film there, right,

1800
01:45:30.159 --> 01:45:34.399
<v Speaker 1>So all of that was interesting. But this this, all

1801
01:45:34.439 --> 01:45:37.880
<v Speaker 1>of what I meant is all of this folklore and

1802
01:45:37.960 --> 01:45:41.239
<v Speaker 1>beliefs and are they real or not. They all feed

1803
01:45:41.279 --> 01:45:44.760
<v Speaker 1>into things like the vampirism in this case where they

1804
01:45:44.800 --> 01:45:48.840
<v Speaker 1>had this diseases, they had this people that they believe

1805
01:45:48.920 --> 01:45:52.640
<v Speaker 1>were coming out of of their deathbeds and raising and

1806
01:45:52.920 --> 01:45:55.840
<v Speaker 1>attacking others. It's all related with that, with the bats,

1807
01:45:55.880 --> 01:45:58.479
<v Speaker 1>with the disease, with the folklore. There is some truth

1808
01:45:58.520 --> 01:46:01.800
<v Speaker 1>in it, but to what I at least hard to understand.

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01:46:03.560 --> 01:46:05.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, with that, I'd like to end with a Bible

1810
01:46:06.000 --> 01:46:09.920
<v Speaker 3>verse if you don't mind. Oh, sure, So this was

1811
01:46:10.000 --> 01:46:13.640
<v Speaker 3>one I found recently. You might like this. This was

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01:46:13.760 --> 01:46:19.720
<v Speaker 3>a Matthew fifteen, Hold on, I'm almost there. Nope, there

1813
01:46:19.760 --> 01:46:23.359
<v Speaker 3>it is all right, Matthew twenty seven fifty two. The

1814
01:46:23.439 --> 01:46:27.560
<v Speaker 3>tombs were also opened, and many bodies of the saints

1815
01:46:27.560 --> 01:46:31.000
<v Speaker 3>who had fallen asleep were raised and coming out of

1816
01:46:31.039 --> 01:46:34.479
<v Speaker 3>the tombs. After his resurrection, they went to the Holy

1817
01:46:34.560 --> 01:46:40.920
<v Speaker 3>City and appeared to many. So this is Matthew twenty seven,

1818
01:46:41.000 --> 01:46:44.439
<v Speaker 3>fifty two and fifty three. Somehow there was a zombie

1819
01:46:44.479 --> 01:46:49.520
<v Speaker 3>revival took place, and they all went into town.

1820
01:46:50.600 --> 01:46:52.199
<v Speaker 1>And they all went in town.

1821
01:46:52.880 --> 01:46:56.680
<v Speaker 3>Right, But I guess nobody decided to record that except

1822
01:46:56.720 --> 01:46:59.920
<v Speaker 3>for this guy.

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01:47:00.279 --> 01:47:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Guy, I think we should start. The Bible is very

1824
01:47:05.800 --> 01:47:10.039
<v Speaker 1>much quoted. But how about the other almost one hundred

1825
01:47:10.039 --> 01:47:12.119
<v Speaker 1>books that are not included in the Bible. We start

1826
01:47:12.159 --> 01:47:15.760
<v Speaker 1>coding from those books because the perspectives are sometimes very

1827
01:47:15.760 --> 01:47:20.039
<v Speaker 1>different from what you get from this only Gospels alone.

1828
01:47:20.199 --> 01:47:23.119
<v Speaker 1>We have missing apostles. Why why you are with you

1829
01:47:23.199 --> 01:47:26.199
<v Speaker 1>reading what they what they wrote, but it is so

1830
01:47:26.319 --> 01:47:28.760
<v Speaker 1>wrong about what they wrote that they're not included in

1831
01:47:28.800 --> 01:47:31.840
<v Speaker 1>the Bible. So they they maybe they in the same

1832
01:47:31.840 --> 01:47:32.880
<v Speaker 1>place at the same time.

1833
01:47:34.119 --> 01:47:47.520
<v Speaker 3>Maybe they have more zombie apocalypses these other books. All right, guys, well,

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01:47:47.920 --> 01:47:50.359
<v Speaker 3>this has been great. We're an hour and forty seven.

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01:47:50.439 --> 01:47:52.960
<v Speaker 3>Thank you guys for joining us, and make sure to

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01:47:53.079 --> 01:47:56.680
<v Speaker 3>like to share the show. This was another trialogue, and

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01:47:56.760 --> 01:48:04.119
<v Speaker 3>this is helpless giantogue. There we go before for eating us,

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01:48:04.119 --> 01:48:08.920
<v Speaker 3>forget that. That's right, all right, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>M
