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Speaker 2: Thank good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Eye on the Ball
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen times. Steve Rivera in
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Speaker 3: Dave Silver. I'm back. You're back. Get rid of me.
Speaker 3: You can't.
Speaker 2: You can always not answer that, Phoe, that's true text.
Speaker 2: Oh damn, Steve, I can't come on. I was gonna
Speaker 2: try that today. Wasn't doing anything else.
Speaker 3: The price is right's over. You can't stay and wats
Speaker 3: that all day?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: How many?
Speaker 5: How many soaps or podcasts to I don't know.
Speaker 3: So it's good to be back Sports Center. You can't what.
Speaker 3: I've got a game day.
Speaker 5: So you got a little preview action today, and so
Speaker 5: that's good.
Speaker 2: We've got a guy Juan, Yes, sir, it'll be tell
Speaker 2: us all about today's game, tonight's game, and I know
Speaker 2: it all. What kind of say the good The good
Speaker 2: news is guess what, it's not a nine o'clock game.
Speaker 2: That's not feel this feels really good. I get home
Speaker 2: and get some sleep. Well, head over right after pretty much. Yeah,
Speaker 2: should should be a who's in town? There's there's a
Speaker 2: better winter. You might hear some chance from the sidelines.
Speaker 3: I sure hope not.
Speaker 2: Uh so since the last two three days, uh, since
Speaker 2: we've been on the show. Uh you have a the
Speaker 2: students on zoo should an apology?
Speaker 3: Right? Yes? And so did the Big twelve? Did you
Speaker 3: see there?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and see that?
Speaker 5: What did what did the How did the Zona Zoo
Speaker 5: thing even happened?
Speaker 3: How did that? How does that even?
Speaker 5: Is there there's a president or is there's like a
Speaker 5: chair who runs the zoo that will.
Speaker 3: Make that statement? They do? They do have that.
Speaker 5: They have leadership, some type leadership a student, I think so,
Speaker 5: I think advisor.
Speaker 2: They probably have an advisor, but I think the students
Speaker 2: kind of run the place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they do. How it's been run.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how things play out tonight.
Speaker 5: If there's any like, you know, people watching.
Speaker 3: I guarantee you know, I guarantee you they did. Hey,
Speaker 3: you don't look like a student. You look like you're forty.
Speaker 3: Why are you in the sec.
Speaker 2: Why are you wearing that pop outfit? It's stay security
Speaker 2: in the back of year as it should. I mean,
Speaker 2: I still believe that they probably put those cameras in
Speaker 2: there and they help. There's probably more than then we
Speaker 2: know what's going on, and people has been I'm just
Speaker 2: guessing suspended for stupid.
Speaker 5: And sadly it's usually from that section to I mean,
Speaker 5: you know there's too many people on scholars should row,
Speaker 5: you know, chanting things like.
Speaker 2: Mildred in section five is not throwing or popcorn or
Speaker 2: glass of water or bottled water.
Speaker 3: Hell, but that's nourishment. Yeah, No, it's gonna be good.
Speaker 5: I think, just with the publicity that's been coming out
Speaker 5: the last you know, since the weekend, they need to.
Speaker 3: Have a calm that. You know, it's gonna again.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be on ESPN too, so I'm sure there's
Speaker 5: gonna be some comments there all right, subject matter.
Speaker 2: It's it's more than a one day New Day situation,
Speaker 2: right or a news cycle thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's now you're we're still talking.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, basketball games just pile on top
Speaker 5: of each other, so you know, here we are just
Speaker 5: a couple of days later talking.
Speaker 2: So we'll see how good the game is. We'll talk
Speaker 2: more about it in a bit. Today we're going to
Speaker 2: have one of my former interns who's got a job,
Speaker 2: a real job kind of yours for pH X pH
Speaker 2: X I believe, And next a pH pH X out
Speaker 2: of Phoenix. He's one of the podcast guys for or
Speaker 2: for Arizona Wildcats, Kevin Thomas. I really liked him when
Speaker 2: he was with us. I got a job right once
Speaker 2: he left last year, so he's been with us here
Speaker 2: in the first hour. And then we have Jason Barr,
Speaker 2: the Channel nine anchor and sports anchor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had that job for a few years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you fund to see what's going on in the
Speaker 5: Let me in the newsroom today.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a dumb question because I'm just
Speaker 2: worried for a dumb answer or a good answer. So
Speaker 2: you how long were you in the how long have
Speaker 2: you in the work your work life? How long was
Speaker 2: your work life?
Speaker 3: Total? Total? Forty four years? Four years? And you were
Speaker 3: here for.
Speaker 5: I've been here, no no, no, on TV on TV twenty eight,
Speaker 5: twenty eight years.
Speaker 3: Okay, I was retorn three. So was this was that
Speaker 3: your best time in your life?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, by far? I mean, you know, it was
Speaker 5: what I wanted to do. I mean I wanted to
Speaker 5: do that basically coming out of so high school.
Speaker 2: So in in uh in cow Poly.
Speaker 3: Where were you before? I was in San Elisabeth. But
Speaker 3: so that that doesn't that wasn't part of it.
Speaker 5: No, that was my that some learning experiences before that.
Speaker 5: Palm springs right right out of school. So yeah, it's
Speaker 5: a couple of jobs before I got here, and you know,
Speaker 5: I stuck around again I've mentioned a million times, but
Speaker 5: you know I got here loosey first year and I was,
Speaker 5: you know, here the entire run, which was great.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So and that's kind of what has kept people like
Speaker 5: me and you probably you know, we know we were
Speaker 5: going to be having you know, some big moments every
Speaker 5: year with something to look forward to. It was big
Speaker 5: time sports, and you know, I had a lot of stuff,
Speaker 5: a lot of stuff going on.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I stayed right, And that's what my boy
Speaker 3: here Won is hoping trying to capture, recapture or whatever. Right,
Speaker 3: be patient, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, you got to
Speaker 3: be paid, right, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And things don't happen unless you pursue them, and
Speaker 2: things happen organically or you know, serendipitous.
Speaker 5: Definitely, if you can get into the business, that's probably
Speaker 5: the first hurdle, and then it's what you make of
Speaker 5: it once you get in there, because I mean a
Speaker 5: lot of people get in and they just fail or
Speaker 5: they don't care.
Speaker 2: Well in your business specifically because oh I didn't, I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't. Well.
Speaker 2: Even now they're all doing their own cameras, their own
Speaker 2: right and this, and they're studying that too, right there,
Speaker 2: because before you had a cameraman and most of the time,
Speaker 2: and then now no one has a cameraman.
Speaker 3: Do you have their own cameras? So you learn that.
Speaker 3: I guess it's part of the job.
Speaker 5: I mean, when I first started in television all those
Speaker 5: years ago, I had to shoot most of my stuff.
Speaker 3: So I learned.
Speaker 5: I learned that part of the business, but I didn't
Speaker 5: want it to be the main part of the job.
Speaker 5: That's one of the reasons I came here. And then
Speaker 5: eventually it did become part of the job here, and
Speaker 5: that's kind Did you catch a catch tail end of
Speaker 5: it a little bit?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it was more volunteer. Sometimes it was like, well,
Speaker 5: do we want to get an extra highlight. I'll take
Speaker 5: the camera and go shoot it, and you know, come
Speaker 5: back and and use that. No times have change times
Speaker 5: have changed, no question. So they play you touch a night.
Speaker 5: They play Iowa State Saturday and guess what. One of
Speaker 5: the best teams in the country lost last night in
Speaker 5: a huge fashion. Oklahoma State beat them, probably one of
Speaker 5: the worst teams in the conference. I guess are they
Speaker 5: still missing a couple of guys?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were.
Speaker 7: They're pretty injured last night, more than the two than
Speaker 7: they were missing against Houston.
Speaker 2: Probably probably about the same. So so let me me
Speaker 2: if you learned anything from me. One, there's been a
Speaker 2: few things I hope you can put on your resme
Speaker 2: sports in general, and this maybe win or two on
Speaker 2: the list. If you're not emotionally ready, emotionally ready for anything,
Speaker 2: you're gonna get drass kicked. Just you just will. They
Speaker 2: were emotionally ready for Houston because it was a monster game, right,
Speaker 2: So they play Oklahoma State, one of the worst teams
Speaker 2: in the league, and guess what they think? Yeah, we don't.
Speaker 2: We just have to show up, play willly well, and
Speaker 2: will win. How many times have we seen this?
Speaker 3: Always, always, always happen.
Speaker 8: Always.
Speaker 2: You could people if they had money and you wanted
Speaker 2: to bet it and consistently bet it, you'd make a
Speaker 2: lot of money. Yeah, because you kind of knew when
Speaker 2: to do it, what he had come and.
Speaker 3: You could exactly.
Speaker 2: And last night when I saw that they had lost,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking not that shocked. They had just come off
Speaker 2: of the what do you call it, the h I
Speaker 2: don't know what this is, the the trap game. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you play hard, play hard, to play your ass off
Speaker 2: almost win look very oppressive. And people are still saying
Speaker 2: that's the final four team when they get a ready
Speaker 2: back and then lose to that what.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's interesting that the conference, other than really Houston,
Speaker 5: there's been a lot of that.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 5: I mean every kind of time you turn around, there's
Speaker 5: a you know, a Texas Tech upsetting somebody, or you know,
Speaker 5: Arizona upsetting somebody going on the road winning games they
Speaker 5: didn't think they would win. It seems, you know, obviously
Speaker 5: the game here with BYU, I don't think we thought
Speaker 5: that was going to happen. So maybe it's just the
Speaker 5: nature of this conference we have to kind of yeah,
Speaker 5: everything's not predictable.
Speaker 3: And no, no, you're you're you're probably right on that too. Yeah, No,
Speaker 3: and that's the fun part of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is, I mean, we come on, Dad, We
Speaker 2: all knew this was gonna be crazy good, crazy good when.
Speaker 3: We got into it, right, Yeah, because I don't know
Speaker 3: about football, and I didn't really care about football, but basketball.
Speaker 3: You said, God, I wish you had tickets.
Speaker 2: So I wish I had a season tickets because this
Speaker 2: is what you want to see.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because you looked at the non conference schedule, remember
Speaker 5: when we were talking back in like you know, September October.
Speaker 3: And things like, oh god, this looks terrible.
Speaker 5: Then you think, oh, wait a minute, when they have
Speaker 5: like ten big twelve.
Speaker 3: Games here too, right, and the only thing that we're
Speaker 3: not gonna have was the Kansas game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well you know they're not even that great this year, yes,
Speaker 5: at this point, but yeah, that would have been fun
Speaker 5: to have.
Speaker 3: Isn't that good for Arizona?
Speaker 2: Yeah kind of because maybe there's a chance, with good chance,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be tough there, But.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they could do that.
Speaker 5: And it's you know, it's a it's a weekend game, right,
Speaker 5: isn't it like a Saturday next Yeah, it'll be on.
Speaker 3: And then they turn around right away and guess what happens.
Speaker 2: The big twelter day there in Kansas is a big
Speaker 2: twelfth from Missouri. Always an adventure, understand, we have we
Speaker 2: got a button five minutes. Okay, so there's that, you'll
Speaker 2: have breaking news. I don't want to take away breaking
Speaker 2: news from you. Anything else? Did I say my four
Speaker 2: for seventeen?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Jason Barr? Yeah, you can compare notes. You probably left prepared.
Speaker 2: Did you leave some stuff there?
Speaker 5: There's probably some things stretch you go and remember I
Speaker 5: left something and you know in this drawer?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Dave Silver was here. Yeah. No, I don't
Speaker 3: think they want that there.
Speaker 2: Okay, they see Baylor loss last night too? Who did
Speaker 2: to I didn't see that. They're kind of enough little prefall, yeah.
Speaker 7: A little bit that the kind of doing what Kansas
Speaker 7: did for a good while, or you're just shouldn't.
Speaker 3: Be a good team on paper, but you never know.
Speaker 3: You never know. Who do you have you hanging around
Speaker 3: with your buddies?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 3: Not not older people.
Speaker 2: Like me who think that there was someone who needs
Speaker 2: to be better better than the show, you know, and
Speaker 2: I'm sure you have guys like that too, what the
Speaker 2: hell's going on? And probably ask you now that you
Speaker 2: kind of they think that you're in the know, which
Speaker 2: we're not.
Speaker 7: All in the No, No, we're just analysts. Who I
Speaker 7: want to say, if you want to put that label
Speaker 7: to us, But there's no such thing as experts.
Speaker 3: No, no, no one's ever an expert. So what do
Speaker 3: they ask you? What the hell's going on?
Speaker 7: Pretty much almost after every loss, I get the we
Speaker 7: need a fire tommy someone someone's not playing as well
Speaker 7: as they should. There they were a first round draft
Speaker 7: pick begin the season. Now, yeah, who knows, maybe they'll
Speaker 7: play in the G League.
Speaker 3: You on Twitter? You're on Twitter? Yeah, sure, yeah, I
Speaker 3: see it all. I see it all.
Speaker 2: And I wish I could just I told you before
Speaker 2: they even show started. I wish I could a run away.
Speaker 5: Twitter, Twitter World and the only I've basically given up Twitter,
Speaker 5: but I'll look at it, damn you. I've good to
Speaker 5: other places now, reds, Blue Sky like that. Why even
Speaker 5: torture myself even because I can't stand looking at Twitter.
Speaker 5: I look at it, I look at it. It's really
Speaker 5: good for sports. I have to admit.
Speaker 3: Oh, oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 5: I mean when a game's ending, like you know, whatever
Speaker 5: happened with the b YU thing, as soon as that
Speaker 5: was over, I mean because I was watching it. But
Speaker 5: you know, I learned more after Twitter after I signed
Speaker 5: it on Twitter.
Speaker 3: But for the most part, I'm not on there. Oh
Speaker 3: oh god, I'm on Facebook. I'm on that too. Got
Speaker 3: to keep up on my birthdays, my memories, memories. I
Speaker 3: remember that four years ago. I'm not gonna lie I do.
Speaker 7: I do keep Facebook for birthdays, notification.
Speaker 5: Every once in a while there's some party I get
Speaker 5: invited to just because I'm on Facebook.
Speaker 2: I'm losing friends like crazy on Facebook. Now I'm just
Speaker 2: deleting you have friends barely my relative relatives. But yeah,
Speaker 2: the points I do.
Speaker 5: I just I have a lot of friends that I
Speaker 5: have no idea who they are. I don't know about you,
Speaker 5: all right, half of them are Hey.
Speaker 3: I know Dave Silver. All of a sudden, I'm a
Speaker 3: friend with them. Okay, oh what time is it good?
Speaker 3: That's cool, that's cool. Yeah, that's cool. Work. Ren Esteine,
Speaker 3: get ahold of mister Thomas. He's gonna call us. Actually,
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Speaker 17: Steve Rivera, he's got his eye on the ball on
Speaker 17: Tucson Sports Station yet Fox Sports fourteen fifty eight.
Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to the ball.
Speaker 2: You're a Fox Sports frteen fifty I'm Steve Rivera in
Speaker 2: today with me Dave Silver.
Speaker 3: We've got quant controls now.
Speaker 2: We have our former guy, mister Kevin Thomas, your former
Speaker 2: intern here at the.
Speaker 3: Eye on the Ball. I miss you, man, or do
Speaker 3: you miss me? I should say I do?
Speaker 18: I do indeed miss you. It's good to be back
Speaker 18: on the show in this capacity, but I definitely miss
Speaker 18: working the ones and twos, and I know my guy
Speaker 18: one is holding it down. So I did miss on
Speaker 18: the show.
Speaker 3: No, I learned from the best. Oh that's right, did
Speaker 3: you get Okay, that makes sense. It's almost a year ago.
Speaker 3: It's not a year ago, right, Yeah, just about Kevin Thomas.
Speaker 3: They're paying you in your in you're buying groceries.
Speaker 18: Yes, yes, I can afford groceries. I can afford eggs.
Speaker 3: Life is good.
Speaker 2: Eggs pay you will only God. Yeah, my cholesterol levels
Speaker 2: is good because I'm not eating eggs. Hey up, well,
Speaker 2: what the heck are you doing?
Speaker 3: Are you like a five a tool guy with five
Speaker 3: jobs or what do they have you doing? Yeah?
Speaker 18: I'm pretty much a five tool player over here. I
Speaker 18: came up here to pH X as a producer, so
Speaker 18: that's just you know, running the shows, making thumbnail that
Speaker 18: ving videos, and then I got called up to do
Speaker 18: the Wildcats pod and it's been a really fun ride
Speaker 18: since then. So now I co host the Wildcats podcast
Speaker 18: with my guy gaming, and I produce some of our
Speaker 18: other podcasts like the Diamondbacks podcast and the Mercury Podcast.
Speaker 3: Cool. So you're busy.
Speaker 5: Are you guys doing things like right after the games
Speaker 5: or do you give yourself a day to kind of
Speaker 5: think about what just happened. How soon do we see
Speaker 5: your product on the air.
Speaker 18: Yeah, So we do a live show at noon five
Speaker 18: times a week every day but Thursday and Sunday, and
Speaker 18: then after every game we go live for a post
Speaker 18: game for at least an hour to break down what happened,
Speaker 18: give out a player of the game and break it.
Speaker 18: We'll just break everything down, kind of react to the
Speaker 18: good and the bad.
Speaker 2: Good for you, it's good, yeah, good for you. You
Speaker 2: must be having fun and and and how uh, well,
Speaker 2: you're having fun and you're probably frustrated because you're a fan.
Speaker 2: You're allowed to be a fan of podcast.
Speaker 18: Yes, yes, yeah, no, I'm having a ton of fun.
Speaker 18: I think the format that we we use here at
Speaker 18: Page Next is a good one because it allows us
Speaker 18: to kind of be pundents in a way where we
Speaker 18: have our fandom still at our core, but we try
Speaker 18: to be pretty fair with our analysis.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 18: And that's kind of where I kind of you know me,
Speaker 18: you know, you know.
Speaker 3: Me, see you.
Speaker 18: I'm a pretty pragmatic guy, so I'm never too far
Speaker 18: out there with my takes. But it's nice to be
Speaker 18: able to still be a fan at the end of
Speaker 18: the day and and react in that way.
Speaker 3: That's true because you are a pragmatic guy.
Speaker 5: Are you surrounded by sun devils at work or the
Speaker 5: scene ex People?
Speaker 3: How how's that breaking down for you?
Speaker 18: Yeah, there's there's a there's a bunch of enemies up here.
Speaker 18: It's it's house every day. But no, there's there's actually
Speaker 18: a fair amount of wildcats in the office. Our our
Speaker 18: GM is a wildcat. Our head of content is a wildcat,
Speaker 18: and obviously me and Damon are wildcats. So we have
Speaker 18: we have our we have army up here. But it's
Speaker 18: definitely trying to spread the good word in a bad place,
Speaker 18: so to speak.
Speaker 7: Any questions for you, guy, John, Yeah, so just obviously
Speaker 7: you're able to be the fan, able to be the analyst.
Speaker 3: Where is this Arizona basketball team right now? In your eyes?
Speaker 14: You know?
Speaker 18: I think this Arizona basketball team, like for a good
Speaker 18: part of this season, after they kind of turned it
Speaker 18: around after starting under five hundred, I had hopes that
Speaker 18: they were rounding their game out to be the best
Speaker 18: game that they had played all year, and then this
Speaker 18: recent stretch has kind of hit them, and I felt
Speaker 18: like it was out of the blue. And what Tommy
Speaker 18: Lloyd had to say after last game about how the
Speaker 18: guys were casual and they're approached to BYU and maybe
Speaker 18: some guys weren't showing up on time. That was crazy
Speaker 18: to me, and I think it kind of changed the
Speaker 18: way I'm looking at this team, not in a drastic way,
Speaker 18: but to give you a more concrete answer, I think
Speaker 18: this team's ceiling, honestly, realistically is like a lead eight.
Speaker 18: I just don't think that they have the consistency and
Speaker 18: the horses to really make that Final four push. On paper,
Speaker 18: it looks like that way, but in reality it hasn't
Speaker 18: played out that way. I think we know kind of
Speaker 18: the ceilings in that range. It's about finding the floor.
Speaker 18: Can they find the consistency to at least make it
Speaker 18: that far and give themselves a chance to fulfill their potential?
Speaker 7: Okay, so Elite eight potential. What would be that extra
Speaker 7: push that they need to be a Final four team,
Speaker 7: possibly a national championship contender.
Speaker 18: I think there are a couple of things that I've
Speaker 18: noticed over the course of the season that have been
Speaker 18: plaguing the team. Obviously, they just don't have shooters on
Speaker 18: this roster, right, And Tommy Lloyd spoke about this, He's
Speaker 18: spoken about this where if you're not a good shooting team,
Speaker 18: you got to take care of the ball. And I
Speaker 18: think consistent, consistent ball security and also consistent intensity on
Speaker 18: the offensive end. Arizona doesn't really have a go to offense.
Speaker 18: They don't have a guy that, you know, as good
Speaker 18: as Caleb Love is, he has not been the guy
Speaker 18: that that Arizona can trust game in and game out
Speaker 18: to help their offense get over the edge. And so
Speaker 18: I think, you know, ball security, obviously, the defense is
Speaker 18: always going to be there. This roster is insanely defensively talented.
Speaker 18: I think it's that offense, and I think it's the
Speaker 18: ball security. Uh and if Caleb Love can find a
Speaker 18: consistent shot, that would be wonderful.
Speaker 3: Am I right?
Speaker 2: You gave me a bunch of things that they don't have,
Speaker 2: and you're talking to Elite eight.
Speaker 3: What you've dropped?
Speaker 18: I said, they're feeling. I said, that's their ceiling. I
Speaker 18: think like, if if things are working, if the defense,
Speaker 18: because let's be honest, that defense is championship level like
Speaker 18: the defense is really good, it's it's it's the offense
Speaker 18: and the lack of consistency. Like, when's the last time
Speaker 18: Arizona's played a full forty minute game this season? I
Speaker 18: really can't. I'm I'm stuggling.
Speaker 2: You know, I love you, but we've got to call
Speaker 2: it's the BYU coach defense?
Speaker 3: What defense?
Speaker 16: Yeah, No, they didn't.
Speaker 18: They didn't show up. They didn't show up, and they
Speaker 18: lost on home court. And that's what happens. Like I'm
Speaker 18: totally with you on that, but that kind of plays
Speaker 18: into the consistency piece that I'm talking about. I don't
Speaker 18: know what's got to change, but here Tommy Lloyd say
Speaker 18: that they took preparation for BYU of all teams casually
Speaker 18: was a real red flag. And so I think that
Speaker 18: the potential of the defensive championship level, the potential of
Speaker 18: the offense is about average, I think, honestly. And the
Speaker 18: consistency has been key and I don't know how they're
Speaker 18: going to find that if they can't even take BYU serious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've been pretty inconsistent.
Speaker 5: And again some of these late game you know, slumps,
Speaker 5: I guess you could call it where there's just nothing's
Speaker 5: working in the last sometimes last ten minutes. We've seen
Speaker 5: that so many times this year, and you know that
Speaker 5: happens in March. It's going to be quick, quick, and
Speaker 5: they're going to be out fast. Yeah, just can't play
Speaker 5: that way.
Speaker 2: Then, right, And depends on the matchups obviously, if they
Speaker 2: play a team that slows them down, plays defense and
Speaker 2: that and and to your point, Kevin, they are who
Speaker 2: they are, and you listed some of the don'ts or
Speaker 2: the nut haves, and that's who they are, and that's
Speaker 2: a that's a concern.
Speaker 18: Yeah, because it's it's the intangibles that like, like again
Speaker 18: I keep bringing it up, but the red flag of
Speaker 18: them taking it casually really struck me because when you
Speaker 18: when you are deficient in areas like shooting and and uh,
Speaker 18: bench depth to an extent, I think that controlling the
Speaker 18: controllables is one of the one of the most important things.
Speaker 18: So if you're not putting the effort in to you know,
Speaker 18: prepare game in, game out, like it's a March Madness
Speaker 18: game at this point in the season, because in the
Speaker 18: Big twelve, every game feels like a Sweet sixteen or
Speaker 18: better game. And so that was really disappointing. And I
Speaker 18: think I think that that's kind of the achilles heel
Speaker 18: of this team is just not having seemingly the right
Speaker 18: mix of skills to fit together into into a cohesive
Speaker 18: offense because the defense, like I said, is there.
Speaker 3: I think, Daves, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Will you hear when I asked about the intangible and intensible?
Speaker 2: So the X factor? Guy, No, I don't think. Okay,
Speaker 2: So you were here, weren't you? And I asked you who?
Speaker 2: And you said uh.
Speaker 7: I believe the questioning was who's been Arizona's most consistent
Speaker 7: player outside of Caleb Love?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, who? I said, moving forward? Who's
Speaker 2: the X factor? Who needs to show up? And moving
Speaker 2: forward for the rest of the year. You got four
Speaker 2: regular season games, a tournament game, and then a possible
Speaker 2: run at the tournament. Who's the X factor moving forward
Speaker 2: to be this team better?
Speaker 7: I don't think I was. If I were to choose someone,
Speaker 7: it would be Carter Bryant.
Speaker 2: Okay, and that's been mentioned before, Dave. I'd say Jaden Bradley,
Speaker 2: and that he too has been mentioned.
Speaker 3: What do you got? What do you got?
Speaker 18: You know, I'm tired of I'm tired of calling Caleb
Speaker 18: Love an X factor just because of the fact that.
Speaker 3: Yes, right he is, well just yes, yes, who did who?
Speaker 3: You worked with him? Yes?
Speaker 18: Oh boy, oh boy, you've got to stop golfing.
Speaker 2: You've got to stop golfing either. But I have a
Speaker 2: different dude than these two sos.
Speaker 18: You know, honestly, I I think my pick would be
Speaker 18: would be Carter Bryant. But if if I don't want to,
Speaker 18: you know, copy anybody there, but that would be my pick,
Speaker 18: I'm gonna go with Henry Vasar. I think if he
Speaker 18: if he can, if he can be a dominant force
Speaker 18: down low and figure out how to be consistent. Uh,
Speaker 18: he's shown real flashes of being an NBA caliber guy,
Speaker 18: which I think coming into the year I didn't really
Speaker 18: see for him. But I think his ability to rebound,
Speaker 18: specifically his ability to tap balls out, and he's able
Speaker 18: to help in that high low game on the offensive side.
Speaker 18: They've they've tested that with Tobyo Waka. I think that's
Speaker 18: been a pretty good look when they've gone to it.
Speaker 18: So yeah, I think if it's not Carter Bryant, I
Speaker 18: think Henry Vassar could really raise the floor of this team.
Speaker 18: I don't know if he's uh, you know, gonna take over.
Speaker 18: But just with the way the ways in which he
Speaker 18: can contribute on both ends, I think could really change
Speaker 18: before the team.
Speaker 2: So I I went out of the box because I
Speaker 2: think that what he can provide is important. And it
Speaker 2: was still also because he can open up the spread
Speaker 2: the court, he can hit shots, and you've seen him
Speaker 2: when he's done well recently. H he got twelve points
Speaker 2: to eleven points last time. Those were points you don't
Speaker 2: usually get, don't don't usually get from him. And what
Speaker 2: he can do is, you know, they need a shooter.
Speaker 2: They need a shooter desperately not named kayleb Loove who's
Speaker 2: going to probably shoot you out of the game.
Speaker 3: And he's the next guy.
Speaker 2: And if he could show up and be more consistent
Speaker 2: like he kind of has recently, that he'd be my
Speaker 2: ex guy. You know.
Speaker 18: That's actually that's actually a really good and interesting opinion
Speaker 18: to have because I think ad Oh, like you said,
Speaker 18: they don't have any shooters outside of Ado on this roster.
Speaker 18: I just is he gonna get enough clock to be
Speaker 18: an X factor?
Speaker 14: Right?
Speaker 18: Because Tommy Lloyd was talking about in the BYU post game,
Speaker 18: I think maybe or maybe it would. Yesterday actually was
Speaker 18: talking about this about can he went to ad Oh
Speaker 18: and say, can you get me three open threes in
Speaker 18: three minutes? Right? And I like, he's not going to
Speaker 18: have enough. Lease, I don't think really impact the game
Speaker 18: the way maybe he should. But that's just because the
Speaker 18: big twelve is so physical. But yeah, that's been interesting
Speaker 18: one for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well he was kind of joking with that because I
Speaker 2: think is Brian and asking the questions. He said, what
Speaker 2: do you want me to tell him? Can you give
Speaker 2: me three straight? But yeah, but he needs he needs
Speaker 2: something like that, just take your shot, don't be afraid
Speaker 2: to shoot it and catch a catch and shoot type
Speaker 2: of thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which he did.
Speaker 18: He's the one guy on the team that really has
Speaker 18: that trade, right that the one guy on the team
Speaker 18: that really will shoot it and just believe it's going
Speaker 18: to go in. I think I almost feel like Caleb
Speaker 18: Loves kind of lost that from his game well to
Speaker 18: the season. I don't know where it went, but.
Speaker 2: To your point one, I think the next guy would
Speaker 2: be Carter Bryant, who can do that too, and we've
Speaker 2: seen that where he can. He said, God, he's got
Speaker 2: he's coming along he's coming along. He can hit that
Speaker 2: fifteen eighteen twenty footer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he can.
Speaker 18: He can do it in a variety of ways. Honestly,
Speaker 18: on offense because he's so he's so athletic, and he's
Speaker 18: so lengthy. But I love Carter Bryant. Whether his potential
Speaker 18: could be on defense. Honestly, the reason that Carter Bryant's
Speaker 18: not getting the minutes that maybe everyone thinks that he should,
Speaker 18: including myself, is because he does have those weird lapses
Speaker 18: on defense that a freshman is going to have. But
Speaker 18: if he can clean up some of those mental lapses
Speaker 18: on defense, oh my goodness. Because his length is incredible,
Speaker 18: he's very quick twitch. Like I think when he is
Speaker 18: locked in, he makes the right decisions a lot of
Speaker 18: the time. So Carter Bryant, I please stay one more year,
Speaker 18: please please.
Speaker 2: Well, you guys, we didn't even talk about another cute guy,
Speaker 2: and that's kJ Lewis, who provides so much and offensively
Speaker 2: he's been out of it all year, right, yeah, but
Speaker 2: defensively you need him because he does shut down. Last game,
Speaker 2: he was not kJ Lewis three.
Speaker 3: We don't.
Speaker 5: I think we were talking the other day too. I
Speaker 5: mean he played nineteen minutes, He had five fouls. I mean,
Speaker 5: he had a bunch of turnovers, he had a bunch
Speaker 5: of assists. It was a weird a weird line for him.
Speaker 5: And maybe maybe that hand injury or whatever risk injury.
Speaker 3: Has he talked about that and no he hasn't. But
Speaker 3: he didn't play with the thing.
Speaker 5: This time, Okay, so maybe that's over with, yeah, or
Speaker 5: maybe he needed to Yeah, But I mean, and he's
Speaker 5: definitely a you know, if not an X factory's a
Speaker 5: wife factory. He's a guy that plays that great defense
Speaker 5: and you're gonna need that in these tournament games. You know,
Speaker 5: they're that continue playing like this are gonna they could
Speaker 5: be like a five or six seed and game number
Speaker 5: two is not going to be an easy one like
Speaker 5: sometimes those second games are, but you gonna be careful.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 18: No, I think that kJ Lewis he kind of is
Speaker 18: like Jayden Bradley in a sense where you know that
Speaker 18: those two guys are gonna show up and do what
Speaker 18: they do every night, right, And I think when they
Speaker 18: don't do that, when they do have an off night,
Speaker 18: it definitely stands out because we're so used to them,
Speaker 18: Like kJ Lewis We're so used to him playing top
Speaker 18: end defense and kind of being that multi school guy,
Speaker 18: kind of affecting the game in any way that he can.
Speaker 18: I think he's so consistent, and that's why we haven't
Speaker 18: mentioned him yet because kJ Lewis is one of my
Speaker 18: favorite guys to watch. I think I think watching him
Speaker 18: is a really special experience because of the intensity that
Speaker 18: he plays with. He's the most intense guy out there,
Speaker 18: I think on this team, right, and Caleb Love probably
Speaker 18: gets in the most dust ups, but I think that
Speaker 18: maybe a temperament thing more so than anything, because ka
Speaker 18: J Lewis he really cares and you can tell he
Speaker 18: really cares, and so yeah, KATJ Lewis can can definitely
Speaker 18: help this team find that consistency because he's not wavering
Speaker 18: on the defensive end at all.
Speaker 3: Ever.
Speaker 18: Garden one through five really impressive stuff.
Speaker 2: So so I'll ask you, I don't want to beat
Speaker 2: a dead horse, but I'm want to beat it anyway.
Speaker 2: And we talked to you on Monday about the crowd
Speaker 2: and the kids.
Speaker 3: Surprise. Not surprised of what happened on Saturday in the
Speaker 3: student section.
Speaker 18: Not surprised, but I don't approve of it, right, I
Speaker 18: think that DYU unfortunately experiences this. I was talking to
Speaker 18: a coworker about this. YU experiences this on a lot
Speaker 18: of campuses, unfortunately, and it's an ugly thing that the
Speaker 18: student section did. It wasn't really a good representation of
Speaker 18: the fans or the university, and it was really unfortunate.
Speaker 18: I was. I was saying this on the show, that
Speaker 18: it was a great game, and between the final call
Speaker 18: and the fans chanting what they chanted, it totally soured
Speaker 18: the reception of what would have been another battle between
Speaker 18: two teams that are looking like they're building a healthy
Speaker 18: rivalry here. And so yeah, it was really unfortunate. But
Speaker 18: again I'm not I wasn't really surprised because that's that's
Speaker 18: unfortunately what happens to b YU very often.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be I mean, I've been around a long
Speaker 5: time and I do remember the years of Arizona and BYU,
Speaker 5: and it's going to be a good rivalry. There's a
Speaker 5: lot of people in this state who care about both
Speaker 5: those schools, and they're good and they're good they I mean,
Speaker 5: they're good and the major sports that we see them in,
Speaker 5: and you know, it's it's unfortunate that this really first
Speaker 5: big basketball game there against the between these two since
Speaker 5: what since the Gimmer game backim months ago. Yes, you know,
Speaker 5: it's been a long time since we've played BYU. So
Speaker 5: it's gonna be it's gonna be a good ride. It
Speaker 5: should be a healthy rivalry.
Speaker 18: And and you know what, the I didn't even think
Speaker 18: about this until you had just mentioned that, But it's
Speaker 18: it's another disappointing thing, is I think McHale was really
Speaker 18: showing itself as one of the best places to play
Speaker 18: in the nation this season on a real stage, Like
Speaker 18: I think that it was a This season has been
Speaker 18: an introduction into the Big twelve, an introduction to a
Speaker 18: lot of new fan bases that don't really understand what
Speaker 18: Michale can bring to the table. It's one of the
Speaker 18: best places to watch a basketball game on planet Earth, right,
Speaker 18: But I think when you have ugly situations like this,
Speaker 18: it kind of you had you had a clean plate
Speaker 18: with a lot of these fan bases, and now you
Speaker 18: no longer do, which is an unfortunate right.
Speaker 3: And it's gonna take a while to get that fixed
Speaker 3: if they can get a fixture. Yeah, yeah, Okay, what
Speaker 3: do you think about tonight?
Speaker 18: Cats? Should cover. I think that the Cats, you know
Speaker 18: this is I, like Tommy Lowyd, expect this to be
Speaker 18: maybe the first complete game of the season for Arizona.
Speaker 18: Right Utah just fired their head coach in kind of
Speaker 18: what seemed to be a confusing timing of the decision,
Speaker 18: but maybe not the result, you know, the results might
Speaker 18: have been the result anyway. Craig Smith was pretty much
Speaker 18: a five hundred coach there had you have to reach
Speaker 18: a tournament. Was not on pace for that this season,
Speaker 18: and so I think it's gonna be kind of a
Speaker 18: disjointed kind of a situation from Utah. But if you
Speaker 18: if Utah is gonna get it done, because I think
Speaker 18: Arizona's gonna dominate this game. But if Utah's gonna get
Speaker 18: it done, it's gonna be gay mads and lighting us
Speaker 18: up from three is what it's gonna be in my opinion,
Speaker 18: because ezras Are he is a great athlete and he
Speaker 18: can put up points as well. But I think Arizona
Speaker 18: kind of throwing back to the West Virginia games with
Speaker 18: Tucker degrees, for example, guys that can shoot and guys
Speaker 18: that make shooting. Kate Madisen leads the conference in attempts
Speaker 18: and makes right. So he's a volume three point shooter,
Speaker 18: owns the Utah all time three point record, broke that
Speaker 18: against Kansas State when he flipped that game on its
Speaker 18: head at home and got the W for Utah. So
Speaker 18: it's gonna be game. It might be the Gay Madson
Speaker 18: Show for Utah, is what they're gonna try to do.
Speaker 18: They're not a strong road team. They're one and seven
Speaker 18: on the road this season. It's matching up to truly
Speaker 18: be a dominant performer from the Cats tonight in my opinion.
Speaker 2: Okay to your mouth, to Jay's gambling habits ears, he's gonna.
Speaker 3: Okay, thanks man, I'll be on.
Speaker 18: I'll be on the spread again as well. Put my
Speaker 18: money with my mom.
Speaker 3: So you're on after the game, yep.
Speaker 18: We'll be on about ten minutes after the game to
Speaker 18: wrap up everything and and talk about hopefully in Arizona
Speaker 18: Wildcat victory. Back on track.
Speaker 5: What what's the website again? Remind everybody?
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Speaker 3: O good, great, great, great to hear from you, Kevin.
Speaker 3: Thanks for coming on.
Speaker 18: Great, great to be back. I missed being on the show,
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Speaker 6: I've got to call in now and then.
Speaker 3: Okay, great, but he got well to Utah.
Speaker 6: The Utah game got me thinking and I forgot it
Speaker 6: wasn't this coach a coach before? This guy was I
Speaker 6: believe his name was Larry. Was Larry Christoviac?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, big tall guy.
Speaker 6: From what I remember, I thought he was kicking.
Speaker 3: Butt over there.
Speaker 6: Did he let go for performance or do you run
Speaker 6: into some kind of a scandal because I remember that
Speaker 6: a surprise when when they you know, cut ties with him.
Speaker 3: Harlan got rid of him too.
Speaker 5: Mark Carlile, Yeah, I don't remember if there was a scam.
Speaker 3: I think there was. You know, they were just kind
Speaker 3: of mediocre and been there a long time when he
Speaker 3: was meeting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I don't know if they were visioning going
Speaker 5: on the Big twelve.
Speaker 3: But you know, no, no, you remember the uh that
Speaker 3: pelet used to play there for Tella Larson.
Speaker 6: For some reason I had him confused with was that
Speaker 6: Oregon State? Was it Wayne Wayne Tinkle Tinkle?
Speaker 3: I believe it's his name. Yeah, no, No, he's still
Speaker 3: never doing what he does there.
Speaker 6: Well, do you guys remember the back twelve tournament? I
Speaker 6: want to say it was about three four years ago.
Speaker 3: I wanted.
Speaker 6: I don't know if they were at twelve seed, but
Speaker 6: they were way down there, and I just remember they
Speaker 6: kept winning and you they must have got knock dirted
Speaker 6: because I was rooted for those guys. What I remember
Speaker 6: Oregon State went four four games and four days to
Speaker 6: win the whole damn thing.
Speaker 3: Sure, no, no, and they made a run in the tournament.
Speaker 3: I didn't you do the sweet sixteen? Are? Yeah? Yeah, eight?
Speaker 2: I think yeah, they were like beat UCL beat teams
Speaker 2: or USC. I think it was, uh no, you're you're
Speaker 2: exactly right. They went on a roll and continue to
Speaker 2: that roll into the tournament.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's hard to follow him now because I don't
Speaker 6: know how.
Speaker 3: To do them.
Speaker 6: But I guess once you get into the NCAA, we're
Speaker 6: gonna it'll be weird playing some of these teams. Wait, Mike,
Speaker 6: I still think we're in the conference with those guys,
Speaker 6: but not anymore so. It's it's all kind of spread.
Speaker 3: Out well a lot.
Speaker 6: I figured you guys would kind of have some in
Speaker 6: depth idea. You know what happened to guy?
Speaker 3: One of the last bracketologies that I saw.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was the second to last
Speaker 2: one or this last one that has Arizona playing Oregon
Speaker 2: and the second round of both teams win, which.
Speaker 6: Would be you know, Okay, we got to be a
Speaker 6: three or four.
Speaker 3: I doubt we're any better than that.
Speaker 2: It was a four, I don't think Gary, right, I
Speaker 2: don't think they're going to be less than a four.
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 6: But okay, I'll take that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think that's fair. In that fair
Speaker 3: they're one of the top sixteen teams in the country.
Speaker 6: What about the women, Yeah, they're making it or not
Speaker 6: got right now?
Speaker 3: One one looks like tough. I don't know, it's just
Speaker 3: really tough.
Speaker 6: Ok Yeah, Yeah, I understand that they trying to climb
Speaker 6: out of a hole. Yeah, I figured out. Okay, gentlemen,
Speaker 6: I'd like to catch it up with you now, and
Speaker 6: I appreciate.
Speaker 3: Give us a call anytime.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Larry Christoviacs last two years finished in eighth place
Speaker 5: in the conference.
Speaker 3: So what were the under five hundred?
Speaker 5: Obviously the last year they were under five hundred, that
Speaker 5: might have been a COVID year twelve and they only
Speaker 5: played twenty five games.
Speaker 3: Oh, twenty twenty.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the twenty twenty one season, and he's done. He's
Speaker 5: been done since then for four years. Yeah, but he
Speaker 5: had a pretty good I mean he was there for
Speaker 5: from twenty eleven to twenty.
Speaker 3: They've had a hard time.
Speaker 2: They've had a hard time replacing the Jarras since I know,
Speaker 2: really since the ninety eight game the trend.
Speaker 3: Do we have to go that far back? Sorry, sorry
Speaker 3: for the reminder.
Speaker 5: No, I mean they have not won in Michale since
Speaker 5: nineteen eighty six. Yeah, you know, you don't remember. They
Speaker 5: looked it up.
Speaker 3: I mean I was trying to remember who's their coach.
Speaker 3: I looked at this guy, Lynn Archibald. Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I looked at their roster and there's like
Speaker 5: not a name I can recognize.
Speaker 3: On any given day, Dave.
Speaker 5: But in eighty six was that let's see now, was
Speaker 5: that the curR injury year?
Speaker 3: I don't remember. Was they lost UTAP in the first
Speaker 3: round in the tournament? I don't know. If I don't
Speaker 3: know if the game was you need to really dig
Speaker 3: into the eighty seven the year eighty seven, Yeah, it
Speaker 3: was the year he was out. They lost. I think
Speaker 3: they lost the UTAP that eight year. Yeah, but they
Speaker 3: have not won.
Speaker 5: And you know they played Arizona all these years in
Speaker 5: Pac ten, pack twelve twelve Man.
Speaker 3: Well, you know there's a there's that trend, always that trend.
Speaker 5: And we're you know, we were talking about their coach
Speaker 5: being fired, gonna have you know, they're gonna have extra motivation.
Speaker 5: How how's that gonna fly? They'll probably come out, they'll
Speaker 5: be fired up. I'm gonna guess at the beginning.
Speaker 3: Typically it always happens that way.
Speaker 2: Usually, Yeah, it's always that we're gonna play hard for him,
Speaker 2: We're gonna show them, show them what they did, and
Speaker 2: then it's next week after that they fall into who
Speaker 2: they are.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So yeah, I think this is a game where they
Speaker 7: they possibly have a lead of the half and then Arizona, Yeah,
Speaker 7: decides to get their act together because I think this
Speaker 7: is gonna be Utah team that plays freely. They they
Speaker 7: don't have the expectation on their head anymore of Hey,
Speaker 7: maybe we can make a run of the the March madness,
Speaker 7: but probably not. No, let's just go out there and
Speaker 7: compete and possibly win.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you, did uh And I kind of
Speaker 2: agree with Kevin, but what did you make of the
Speaker 2: uh uh? They played non Chilantra? What was the what
Speaker 2: was the casual? Casual?
Speaker 3: Casual?
Speaker 2: What did you think when Tommy said that? That hit
Speaker 2: me too, Not to the degree that Kevin is, but
Speaker 2: it was a little bit concerning to me when he
Speaker 2: said that night and he was upset.
Speaker 3: Were he in the room?
Speaker 18: I was not?
Speaker 16: He was?
Speaker 1: He was?
Speaker 2: I asked Tommy, I Troy of this one. And and
Speaker 2: you've been around a couple of years now, right, Tommy's
Speaker 2: changed a little. He's more snarky, he's more fighting.
Speaker 7: I think because he sees a lot in this team.
Speaker 7: Unless he's a lot of the potential, like Kevin talked about,
Speaker 7: the ceiling can be high for this team. It's a
Speaker 7: matter of wanting it.
Speaker 2: Get it and get them, get him, getting them to
Speaker 2: to understand that.
Speaker 3: Because realistically they they shouldn't have been casual for real
Speaker 3: let's you know this is these are his guys.
Speaker 5: I mean, he put together this roster, and it makes
Speaker 5: him look bad if they're going if they're not playing
Speaker 5: as hard as he wants them to play, and if
Speaker 5: he watches them after the game and says, you know what,
Speaker 5: you guys weren't playing that hard. I mean you're chasing
Speaker 5: after guys that were wide open half the time. There
Speaker 5: are a lot of wide open three pointers that game.
Speaker 5: I don't know if that's is that the sign of
Speaker 5: the casual iness? Who knows what you what? He's pinpointing
Speaker 5: there totally.
Speaker 2: So I traveled with the team for twenty three years
Speaker 2: and and that word just it's a good word because
Speaker 2: I saw that casual work and.
Speaker 3: Loot and loot.
Speaker 2: Every game was the same for loot, right, whether it
Speaker 2: was a championship game, it was a He never got
Speaker 2: too high, never got too low. Everything was important. You
Speaker 2: learned what you learned Monday through Friday. You're show them
Speaker 2: what you learned on Saturday.
Speaker 16: Right.
Speaker 3: He was just that dude.
Speaker 2: But but when you have guys who are good, who
Speaker 2: have egos, and we covered them day. I'm not telling
Speaker 2: you things you don't already know. Show up and say
Speaker 2: we just got to show up, give me the ball
Speaker 2: and we'll play.
Speaker 3: It doesn't work that way. We've talked about that.
Speaker 2: Wisconsin two thousand, I don't remember the number one seed
Speaker 2: in the whole tournament. Lauren was out because of a
Speaker 2: back injury, and Jim wore, we've had him on the show.
Speaker 2: They lost to Wisconsin. Jim the Dick Bennett team and
Speaker 2: Jim says that one of the first Christians lose is
Speaker 2: do you think you guys were over confident and Loot
Speaker 2: went reserve and he says, well, lou I saw the
Speaker 2: guys in the hallway saying we got this, We'll get
Speaker 2: this game on Saturday.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. They were already thinks.
Speaker 2: Explain to me. East Tennessee State. Explain to me, Sata Clara,
Speaker 2: Explain to me. Miami and Ohio explain to me. Explain
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 3: Explain to me. There's a lot of those.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well it's you know, it's always the psychology is sport.
Speaker 5: You just sometimes don't know. You think, oh, I'm coming home,
Speaker 5: it's a Saturday game.
Speaker 3: It's b yu. We can beat these guys.
Speaker 5: We already beat them once, and I'm sure that gets
Speaker 5: into their head. Before you know it, you're in a
Speaker 5: close game and a really close game and it doesn't
Speaker 5: go your way. So you know, I guess, as I
Speaker 5: said before, you know, these are Tommy's guys.
Speaker 3: He's the one that you know, may got these.
Speaker 5: Grad transfers to come or these nil people to stick
Speaker 5: around for a year or two extra. I mean it's
Speaker 5: you know, he's got pride too. He looks at his players,
Speaker 5: what are you doing?
Speaker 7: And we kind of talked about the privilege of being
Speaker 7: Arizona basketball on Monday. That definitely has to be in
Speaker 7: their head right right, like about five minutes left, right
Speaker 7: you're saying, you're saying, all right, we're Arizona basketball. We're
Speaker 7: gonna go and make some plays and we're gonna beat
Speaker 7: BYU and we'll look ahead to thous and times.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, Wan, you're exactly spot on with that too, because
Speaker 2: we've seen it. You've you grew up watching it, you observed,
Speaker 2: and we've covered it exactly because.
Speaker 7: Those later Sean Miller teams, they definitely had that where
Speaker 7: you get a DeAndre and on your team and these
Speaker 7: number one overall prospect, of course we're going to be
Speaker 7: Buffalo right where Arizona basketball, no question.
Speaker 2: After after being casual for most of the season, if
Speaker 2: not the whole season, even even Sean said I'm not
Speaker 2: sure I can get to these guys, and then.
Speaker 3: He kind of walked it back.
Speaker 2: But you could tell you think that DeAndre Trier and
Speaker 2: the Alkins wanted to be there. They were already getting
Speaker 2: ready for the NBA the next the next week after that,
Speaker 2: and they showed up and got their ask kicked after
Speaker 2: after running a great packed Pac twelve tournament.
Speaker 5: Remember they killed everybody. It was a great highlights nuts.
Speaker 2: And we're back four days later they were gone. I
Speaker 2: mean you you're a perfect example because.
Speaker 7: You see, and you know you talk about all those
Speaker 7: guys are already ready for the NBA their NBA talent.
Speaker 3: Only one of them really made it right.
Speaker 7: You had, you had Rawley Alkins kind of they're not
Speaker 7: really are Usually You're played i think season and a
Speaker 7: half with the Knicks, and Deander at and made the
Speaker 7: finals to his credit with the Suns.
Speaker 3: You're a pragmatic guy too.
Speaker 2: One let me say this, you're you're leaving, You're gonna
Speaker 2: graduate here in a couple of months.
Speaker 3: If you were, if you were, if you were, if
Speaker 3: you had.
Speaker 2: A job lined up already wins, you're kind of like
Speaker 2: fancy free. You know my stuff is doesn't stink. I
Speaker 2: got a job.
Speaker 3: You're not that right now. No, you're a little concerned.
Speaker 3: That's how they should have been playing. Yeah, I'm very
Speaker 3: much concerned. I don't know if I'm NBA talent right now.
Speaker 7: I gotta focus on great analogy to I gotta focus
Speaker 7: on the little things, the details. I gotta show up
Speaker 7: prepared every morning to play byu right and making a
Speaker 7: deep en CIA tournament run, right, That's that's the goal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in their mine, they're twenty one years old. I
Speaker 2: got the world by the shorties and we could do whatever.
Speaker 2: We gotta just wan and win that. I think, Hell,
Speaker 2: you're on the air and one on the ball. You
Speaker 2: got about a minute on.
Speaker 6: The bay Steed quickly.
Speaker 20: I wanted to ask. During the loud Olson era, it
Speaker 20: was like magic. They'd play the first half, he'd make
Speaker 20: some great adjustments and everything would be fine. Do you
Speaker 20: think that's happening now? And my thing with all these
Speaker 20: close games and the Big twelve and everything else is
Speaker 20: are you entertained? I always likes better than the question
Speaker 20: the blowouts.
Speaker 18: You get to see.
Speaker 6: The the backup guys.
Speaker 20: Are you entertained?
Speaker 3: No question?
Speaker 2: In fact, in fact, I've used that line a few
Speaker 2: times on Twitter, because, uh, if you're not entertained, here's
Speaker 2: something's wrong with you. Because they're fun, they're fun to watch.
Speaker 3: I mean, the whole things. The whole thing's fun.
Speaker 20: Yeah, the new the New Conference.
Speaker 3: Is fun.
Speaker 20: And games like b YU it's having slow they get
Speaker 20: going and then they fall or they keep going.
Speaker 6: Or I don't know if that's a good way to put.
Speaker 5: It, but I think we're saying like you're talking about
Speaker 5: with the conference. I mean, just the other night, I'm
Speaker 5: watching what tex Texas Tech in Houston. I mean, that
Speaker 5: was a pretty entertaining game. And Houston's they're like a
Speaker 5: pain in the neck, but they're a fun team to watch,
Speaker 5: and Arizona's got to see that first hand.
Speaker 2: Here, Okay, we got one more call on quick call.
Speaker 2: Hello you on the air and on the ball. We've
Speaker 2: got about thirty seconds.
Speaker 21: Hey, Steven Dave, this is Frank. Yeah, when you're talking
Speaker 21: about being casual. I think it shows up in the passing,
Speaker 21: some very sloppy passing. So the other thing is I
Speaker 21: hope that Arizona doesn't try to throw that long pass
Speaker 21: past half court at the end of the game. They
Speaker 21: tried it once, didn't work. They tried it the same
Speaker 21: thing the second time, didn't work. So anyway, hoping for
Speaker 21: a good game, good Wildcat.
Speaker 3: Thanks, thanks, thanks for calling. It's funny he talked about
Speaker 3: that at the push covers. I think is they just
Speaker 3: can't be in that position though. Don't put yourself in
Speaker 3: that position now.
Speaker 5: I mean I had that great you know, for fortune
Speaker 5: to play against Iowa State almost the exact same thing,
Speaker 5: and they barely got the ball in pack.
Speaker 2: Thinking today was the second year anniversary of what the
Speaker 2: assu shot that beat him.
Speaker 3: To Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw that. I think it
Speaker 3: was yesterday.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was two years since the Freeman Cambridge Cambridge, Cambridge,
Speaker 7: Cambridge hit the beyond half court.
Speaker 3: Show almost like almost like a Caleb Bumps, Okay, we
Speaker 3: gotta go now. Cool