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Speaker 1: Existent notch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fights.

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Speaker 2: Times, get off the fach. Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and

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welcome back to The Geek for his podcast, the six

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hundred and thirty ninth episode of The Geek for his

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podcast I'm the Clown Principle podcast for the second week

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in a row or second podcast because I thought it

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was fitting, which we'll talk about later. And I'm joined

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by Hey.

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Speaker 1: I'm the am marcaster doing with this.

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Speaker 3: I'm the going in circles Taylor Field.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's pertaining to hang on. I just had

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to change the uh the title here, I forgot the

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forgot the episode titles about rumors wrong. I want to

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roll right now. You know Daniel Kirklan wasn't gonna be here,

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but yes, no, no Kirkland today. But we are here

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right before a nice Canadian law. I guess it's not Canadian.

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I guess it's a long weekend everywhere, but uh, we

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are here to have a little newscast going on because

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there's lots of stuff we didn't do one last week

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I don't think. I can't remember was the last week

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week before them?

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Speaker 1: That was last week.

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money on it.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it was early, Yeah, I guess it was the Tuesdays.

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Speaker 1: It was a little earlier than part of me doing

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it was like I gotta fly to Cologna and I

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gotta do some ship and I didn't really want to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so right, Yeah, that that's why is because it

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was a little earlier because extra life, Right, we had

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some stuff going on. But yeah, we've got lots of

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stuff to talk about. Literally, it was gonna be like

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there's a couple good topics, but it was some ketchup

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of the stuff that Taylor and I booted that was

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like evergreen stuff of like okay, some trailers and movies

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let's talk about. But we got so busy last week

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and then this week just today. You can tell, you know,

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not to get too much in it, but you can

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tell that the election's over because people are just dropping

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news like everything like oh Amazon, Mass Effect show, oh

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Batman show, Star Wars were making three million movies. You

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can tell that, like, okay, now the news cycles, calm down,

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let's do that. But yeah, speaking of that, let's just

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we're gonna have some fun. I know, it's been a

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tough week for some people we understand always come to

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our discord, as I tweeted out this week, always a

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safe space for because online get a little crazy. Our

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discord is just all love and talking geek stuff. It's

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been a rocky week, but it was a good week

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in there with everybody talk. Even today, it was fun

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seeing a many conversation about the substance which we just reviewed.

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But yeah, the discords down below. If the link ever

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does not work, because it changes all the time, I

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try to keep it updated, but just let us know

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and we can always shoot you a link and we'd

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love to have you in there. And that's a good space,

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that it's safe, and it's all just you know, well,

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I love our community that we've built, I love the

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people we have. It's just a you know, it's not

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the biggest thing in the world, but I would take

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this for the biggest thing for having a bunch of

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assholes in there. And like I said, I think we

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talld Also the the nine year, I'm always waiting like, oh,

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one day someone's gonna join, Like we've not had to

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ban anyone from the discord or like we've never had

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someone calling after nine where I'm like oh, this person's

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just kind of mean spirit or like we've been very lucky.

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like I match those people, so that's good. But yeah,

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we're gonna have some fun today. We're gonna start off now.

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I'm not sure how much you have been watching Dilmus,

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but is there anything you haven't watched other than we

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did all review, you know, plus Kirkland Substance. That was yesterday. Again,

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thank you to Charlie Randall. That was a good time.

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people are talking about their interpretation. So it's it's a

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Speaker 1: Yeah go check out side Quest was really fun kind

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of recap of our highlights from the twenty four hour

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stream and had a bunch of other things as well.

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not in there. In the wrestling discord, he's finally playing

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a second season of GM Mode because he said he

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we added the sales shirts and it's like almost just

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watched streamed. It was a good time. I know I detoured,

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of course we could raise some money. But people, you know,

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the links, we couldn't do you know, this podcast because

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of you guys or the Extra Life charity stream, we'd

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the first year. Now it's crazy. No matter what happens

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on the bubble guy. So fourteen thousand, so almost twenty

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thousand dollars for the BC Chilness Hospital. Pretty impressive. I

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Speaker 1: I've watched a lot in the last last couple of weeks.

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my bit roles. But uh yeah, and he was cast

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as Greenland entered before James gun did the whole cutaway, so.

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Sam Raimi seeing Don't Move. I'm like, Okay, is this

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the performances. I thought, uh, it's Cole Sprouse, right, is

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for that movie, and I was like, these trailers, I

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don't think they look in the greatest and I remember

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when it came out it felt like the Discord was

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kind of disappointed. But I I dropped like a five

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and a five on that thing. I'm not sure, like

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I really I thought like what they were doing and

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it's like it's not simple, but it is. And I

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was glad for her because I felt like after ant Man,

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she got dunked on a lot for that character. And

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it's like I've seen her in things where she can

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be good.

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Speaker 1: I think none of that is her fault.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So that's where it's like, look like if anybody

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is like I don't know about her when they told

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Young Avengers, it's like, look at Lisa Frankenstein, Like you

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just got to put her with good director and she

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was good. I don't know, if you've seen a Potatoes,

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she's really good. Abigail this year too, she's very you know,

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she's very She's just comedic relief character but really fun it.

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if it would be if any of these two are

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gonna watch it to talk about Golden Geeks, but I

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would have it in some some areas.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's been such a strong year that I

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think for me finding that top five is gonna be difficult.

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I feel like it's gonna maybe be at least the

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shout out for me there and then probably Catherine Newton

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as well, just for that fun. But even then, looking

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at my man, I've been looking at my my notes

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for Golden Geeks and there are a lot of like

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lead actress roles, like a lot of strong ones this year,

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so that will be a tough category for her, but

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it'll be fun none those. And what's the name the actress?

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The mom's name?

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Speaker 2: Again?

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Speaker 1: I always forget her. Her name?

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Speaker 2: Is it Carley played them? Could you know? Yea?

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Speaker 1: She is so fun as a piece of ships that

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my character in that just just totally nails it. And

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then lastly, I was hoping Kirklann would be here so

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that I could say this to both you, Travis, Travis

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and Kirkland, but I finally watched Monkey Man. I lot

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good one of your favorites.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of the year.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's still one of your phrase

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because you just have so many strong ones this year.

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I'm sure it's still.

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Speaker 2: Still in the top ten. It might be, but it's

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turning into twenty twenty two where it was a very

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very strong year. And I'm glad you watched that because Kirkland,

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it's it's number eight right now, still right now, So

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I think that was gonna be Kirklum's pick, so he'll

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probably change it because you know, Taya will have to

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see it. I guess if we nominate for stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I knew. I mean I I considered grabbing

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a ticket and going stand in theaters and just didn't happen.

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Whatever happened that week. So I'm glad I finally got

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around to it. And yeah, it was just super fun.

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You know, it is like a very John Wick thing.

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There's even a joke in there, like one of the

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guys like selling him a gun is like, ah, this gun.

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This is the gun from John Wick, but like the

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Chinese version, and it's like, ah, yeah, this is like

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John Wick but the Indian version. So I feel like

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that joke was very on the nose in that way.

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But I think the biggest thing is so to me

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was like cinematography was fantastic in this, Like the fight

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scenes were so engaging. I feel like it's a like

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any director who overuses shaky cam, I want them to

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watch that movie. And just like the way the camera

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moves around, it's like it's such a it's like a

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character it's part of the scene and it feels like

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the impact of the hits, and it feels like it's

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giving the power of the hits but without just like

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crazy flinging the camera around. So really impressed by that.

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fancast we do. I throw him in some role, even

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if it doesn't make sense. So I'm a big fan

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of him. And yeah, overall it is just it was

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a really good time. I think some of the the

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overarching story stuff of like the the communities or society aspect,

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maybe it didn't work as well for me, but it's

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also like an action movie and like the individual personal tale,

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that stuff really worked. And the mythology I really enjoyed

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the way that was kind of woven in there as well,

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and just you know, just some of the joke like

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getting a rickshaw and throwing like Nitross on and they're

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flying through the city and that was like such a

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fun little gimmick. So there's a lot of really good

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stuff in there. So yeah, I really really glad I

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finally watched that one. But yeah, been a good couple

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of weeks of watching the movie. Really enjoyed a lot

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of stuff.

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Speaker 2: No, and you knocked out someones and obviously it's still

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not till January February, but you knocked out someones that

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will probably be coming up later on the year. So okay,

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I I feel like you're gonna enjoy Monkey Man whenever

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you get to it. I feel like I think it's

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on Prime now, so easy, easy click of a button there.

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Speaker 3: Easy click. Yeah, I think it's watching something that's on

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my radar, so I will ultimately have to watch it

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if you guys force my hands.

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Speaker 2: So I don't think we will. I don't. I don't.

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I don't know if Kirkland's gonna do just you.

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Speaker 1: Have against it? Taylor?

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Speaker 2: What do you?

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Speaker 3: What are you doing? Time?

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Speaker 2: That's that's there? Yeah, Now, I don't know if you

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will if all three of us. I feel like it

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might be a situation where if it gets nominated, you

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might have to watch it after the fact, like confer

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for your voting. But I don't know if he's gonna

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Maybe he feels he really wants you to watch it.

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But if all three of us have watched already, is

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he gonna put a Golden Geeks picture just on you? Taylor?

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You think you weren't just us.

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Speaker 1: The whole pick Man. It's trigger because I think it's

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a lock for some of the maybe non best film

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categories and maybe has a chance on that best Best,

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but like just other utter categories, I think it's gonna

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just clean, sweet, clean sweet. But it'll be in there

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for sure if we get the numbers. But at least

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we have three now.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, obviously I think i'm being you know, it,

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don't be greedy, but I was. I was kind of

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hoping I would have heard something by now. But like

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his next projects, I'm hoping it wasn't. I don't think

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it will be one and done because it was very

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it was critically claim. I think it did all right

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in the box office. I think they're hoping it was

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going to be like a John Wick runaway hit, and

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I think it was just like a Proffle movie. Didn't

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get that Garner like like that. But yeah, I really

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hope we hear news soon that he's doing something, because

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it's like for a first time director. Obviously he's got

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a bigger budget it. But still I really enjoyed it.

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So I'm glad you watched those spub's about your Lisa

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Frankenstein at the time. Spub's called it if Tim Berne

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made a good movie in twenty twenty four, but he

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redeemed himself later with the new Beetle Juice, which I yeah,

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I kind of agree. It feels very updated. Tim Burn. Yeah,

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it feels like it's like if Tim Burn's daugh, which

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funny enough, it's Ron William's daughter that directed. And I'm

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the same thing. I'm very excited to see what she does.

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I've not seen her other work. I think she's done

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like the subs inst director, like some short films, and

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I think there's maybe one other movie she's done. I

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want to go back. But same thing. I'm excited to

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see like more of her work and what she can do.

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And uh yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting.

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So uh tear Field, Yes, uh yeah, I am bald now.

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It is uh it is the path that I've chosen.

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But again, I tell people this, it's never been bald

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in the winter. It's actually my favorite time because very

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easy for Tuk. Like right now, when I get cold,

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when I put this hood up, the heat just radiates,

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like it just stays in here. So it's it's like

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a nice little heater.

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Speaker 1: So now I think you have the path that you chose,

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but I think the people chose by donating.

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Speaker 2: They did choose, and a big thank you to everybody

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that did donate. So I'm happy you. Yeah, I'm happy

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you did that. I mean, I definitely rock it for

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a while. But uh, tay, what have you been watching?

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Speaker 3: Oh let's see pop out the old list here. So

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after the charity stream, I thought, Okay, there's a few

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few things that I need to just kind of like

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Aquaman long legs, yea blue beetle. Uh yeah, No, we

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did Ready Player one. I had a big craven it

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just to kind of get back into there specifically just

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because I think my favorite arc of that film is

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the whole Shining sequence. I really really like it. It's

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so much fun, and especially like the end battle. Just

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every time I watched this movie, I spot different ips

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that I just didn't notice before, and it's so so

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much fun. The cyclops from the seventh Voya just sind bad.

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Speaker 1: Deep deep cut.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I used to watch the movie as a little kid,

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and it's just like ole, I can't believe they actually

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threw that in there, like you prefer.

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Speaker 2: Not to like YouTube and see them all. You just

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want every time you watch it, catch something new. That's

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what you want to do. Yeah, nice, I respect it.

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Speaker 1: It's a great way to experience.

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Speaker 3: It's a good time. Yeah, so that's great movie. I'm

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looking forward to the sequel whenever they do that, because

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they announced a sequel.

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Speaker 2: Didn't thing for the book.

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Speaker 3: I did it for the movie is the book?

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Speaker 2: Is there already a sequel for the book? Yeah? Yeah,

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guy in the chair, I don't think you're gonna get

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the movie sequel. I don't think it did that well.

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I can take a look, but I think it's one

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of those same things did like profitable, but I don't

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think it was sending Ready Player two.

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Speaker 3: Cool.

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Speaker 1: Book came out in twenty twenty, so that's fresh ish.

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I mean, that's getting pretty pretty old.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so it came two years after the movie, and

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the movie Let's See had a budget of no. Actually,

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this did better than I thought. Had a budget of

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one f seventy five and then eight six hundred million,

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so no, much better than I I thought it was

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gonna sy Yeah. No, maybe I guess you could get one.

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I guess that's a did did well enough. So I

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need to get a rewatch I was. I was really

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wanting to like it. I don't think I disliked it,

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but uh I do need to maybe give it one

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more shot just to see.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, after that, Thumberlina. That is a classic one.

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Just watching growing up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just you can't watch The Monkey Man, but

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you're watching Thumberlina again ready player one. Madison has is

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watching these with me, so there's another factor.

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Speaker 3: Time man should love.

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Speaker 2: My she might like I bet she would actually like

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Lisa franken Sign. There's some darker stuff, but it's like

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it's cutty dark.

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Speaker 3: It's I'm getting around to that because I saw that

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was on Prime, so I'm tiptoeing. I'm gonna probably like

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slap that on soon.

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Speaker 2: Digital tiptoeing, digital tiptoe.

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Speaker 3: And then last on my list, here is a Herbie

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fully loaded. This is a Madison pick. I was doing

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something and then Madison was like, I'm gonna put this on.

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So she put it on and I said, dad, I

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was like, holy shit, the cast is stacked. We got

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Justin long Well, Michael Keaton, Lindsay Lohan. I'm like, holy fuck.

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We got a lot of big names in here.

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Speaker 2: Did you know know Lindsay Lohan was in there.

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Speaker 3: No, I'd never seen this before.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's fair. That was in that era of

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00:19:42,559 --> 00:19:46,759
like she had Freaky Friday, that Confessions of a Shop

473
00:19:46,799 --> 00:19:50,720
Haulck and there's something I think it's Confessions of Shop Haulic.

474
00:19:50,759 --> 00:19:52,960
There's another one in there missing that was bigger when

475
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,480
she oh mean girls, duh mean fu? Yeah, yeah, but

476
00:19:55,559 --> 00:19:56,920
she was. She was on a run there for a

477
00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:57,400
little bit.

478
00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,759
Speaker 3: So, yeah, I've never seen it before. I would not

479
00:19:59,799 --> 00:20:02,599
give points to it. First story. Really, I was just

480
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,720
I had fun just with the cast members and all that.

481
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,119
Speaker 2: So was justin Loan the love interest, Yeah, of course

482
00:20:09,279 --> 00:20:11,799
you as Yeah, okay, I just I haven't. I haven't

483
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,720
actually think I've ever seen that movie. I was out

484
00:20:14,799 --> 00:20:16,599
because I have, you know, cars and all.

485
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,119
Speaker 3: So me and Madison were joking about how there's a

486
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,599
scene where they're driving along this highway and we're like, oh, yeah,

487
00:20:22,599 --> 00:20:24,599
this is the scene where justin long drop Sevundsay low

488
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,079
Head and then gets the call and Barbarian.

489
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:31,680
Speaker 2: Maybe it's it could be he doesn't die in Herbie, right,

490
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,039
so maybe he goes on to watch that. I got

491
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,000
to watch every Halloween like, I got to rewatch Barbarian

492
00:20:37,039 --> 00:20:38,359
and I have it on the back list and I

493
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,279
never do, but I gotta. I gotta do it soon

494
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,759
because I've been great itching for it. But you know,

495
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,880
I haven't been doing too much because me and Emily

496
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,400
have started to ketch up on some stuff like Love

497
00:20:49,519 --> 00:20:52,039
is Blind, like the US edition, and then like The Circle,

498
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:53,920
the last season we didn't watch, so we're ketch up

499
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,119
a lot of stuff like that, and then obviously are

500
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,960
watching The Substance again for a second week. So I

501
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,960
think I only have three things to shout out. Maybe

502
00:21:02,079 --> 00:21:05,640
is there Okay? Yeah, So just at the after Halloween,

503
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,759
after the stream, finally watched Nightmare Before Christmas Ellie Form

504
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,119
like pretty much months have been asking, but I'm like, oh,

505
00:21:12,279 --> 00:21:14,359
like that's a Halloween movie. We can wait because it's

506
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,680
like it's Halloween and Christmas. But it was a perfectly okay,

507
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,000
I'm tired put this on and I somehow stayed awake

508
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,200
for that, so yeah, I'm still good. Classic Night Before Christmas,

509
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,319
great movie. And then I watched Terrrifire three, So I

510
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,400
wanted to give this a go round because I've been

511
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,720
talking about each week or each newscast out of key,

512
00:21:31,759 --> 00:21:35,039
I've only I've watched all them while I watched all Halls.

513
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,359
Even then I rewatched Terrrifier one and two. So this one,

514
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,240
I was surprised by how much I like it because

515
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,000
I always say that I respect the movies. I love

516
00:21:44,039 --> 00:21:46,599
what they're going for as far as the effects. They're hardworking.

517
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,000
But like i've in the past a Terrifier one and

518
00:21:50,279 --> 00:21:52,839
two or not, like I would deem them good movies,

519
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,079
I think I like them both a little bit more

520
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,599
on this rewatch. Once I knew I was getting into

521
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,720
I think terror Fire two I can pass. Serrifire one

522
00:22:00,839 --> 00:22:02,920
is I don't know. I think there's there's a lot

523
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,799
a lot going on there, but with three, no, it

524
00:22:04,839 --> 00:22:08,000
was like it felt like a big upgrade. And I'll say,

525
00:22:08,039 --> 00:22:10,279
like the opening shot, I think it's the opening scene

526
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,680
or one of them. It's uh people have seen in

527
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,079
the trailers, but it's like Santa's in the house, but

528
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,160
of course it's not Santa. It's art. The clown is Santa.

529
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,799
But the way they like take their time and they

530
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,319
pace it and it's this big build up to see

531
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,279
art felt like the most no punitent like artful thing

532
00:22:26,319 --> 00:22:28,720
they had ever done. Artful might be the bad work

533
00:22:28,759 --> 00:22:30,400
because they do some freaky stuff, but it felt like

534
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,559
the most artistically well done thing I've ever seen. I

535
00:22:33,599 --> 00:22:35,319
was like, Okay, of course I got a bigger budget

536
00:22:35,319 --> 00:22:37,400
now because the second one was like two hundred and

537
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,599
fifty thousand. This was four million, So of course that

538
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,559
stuff helps. But this just felt in general all around,

539
00:22:42,599 --> 00:22:45,640
it's like, oh, they've they've elevated. So like those first

540
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,160
two I gave like a two point five, a three

541
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,519
out of five. This I gave a full four. I

542
00:22:50,559 --> 00:22:54,759
really enjoyed it. Still some super gross stuff, like it's uh,

543
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,680
like I say, it's it's it makes the Saw movies

544
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,519
look kind of kiddish in a way. That's how bad

545
00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:02,319
this stuffing. Like this one was rated X or NC

546
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,680
seventeen or whatever. So but uh, yeah, I'm excited for

547
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,839
where I'm happy that I actually really enjoyed one of

548
00:23:08,839 --> 00:23:11,200
these movies. I think I'll always watch them together if

549
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,559
I do, cuz I'll always say the thing is with

550
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,880
these movies, the fucking art the clown character is phenomenal.

551
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,799
Like even in these bad movies like that, what I

552
00:23:18,799 --> 00:23:21,039
consider the first one not the greatest, Like it's just

553
00:23:21,079 --> 00:23:23,880
fun to watch him in these situations. So there's that,

554
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,720
And then the only other thing I watched this week

555
00:23:25,799 --> 00:23:29,759
was a super slash Man the Christopher Reeves story. Highly

556
00:23:29,839 --> 00:23:32,839
recommend if you're a big fan of Superman Christopher Reeve. Honestly,

557
00:23:32,839 --> 00:23:34,400
we're doing the Retro and patroon right now, so you

558
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,240
can check out that and the Fantastic Four of those

559
00:23:36,279 --> 00:23:39,799
are exclusive to Patreon. But uh yeah, like I don't know, Christio.

560
00:23:39,839 --> 00:23:41,200
You didn't grow up with them, so you might not

561
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,799
have the same reaction. But like I feel like, just

562
00:23:43,839 --> 00:23:46,119
even as a human, you might watch this and well, up,

563
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,200
it's it's it's a good watch, but it's also a

564
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,240
very tough watch with what that family goes through, especially

565
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,599
the just things I didn't know about in that last

566
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,559
year for those kids. It's like, it's just it's such

567
00:23:56,599 --> 00:23:59,000
a tough situation. But uh yeah, and I was kind

568
00:23:59,039 --> 00:24:01,839
of surprised, how you think, Okay, this is a legendary

569
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,920
guy was Superman, then he became you know, paraplegic. That

570
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,079
might be the wrong term. I think that's right, but

571
00:24:08,079 --> 00:24:10,119
there I think there's a different version he is. So

572
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,839
I apologize for that, but you'd think that Okay, it's

573
00:24:12,839 --> 00:24:15,039
gonna be like a shining story, and it is, but

574
00:24:15,079 --> 00:24:16,920
then they kind of just talk about at times where

575
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,720
even his kids are like, yeah, in this era of

576
00:24:18,759 --> 00:24:20,440
his life, he was kind of like an asshole, Like

577
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,240
he was like not home that much. I was very surprised.

578
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,160
And there's other stuff too that once he was paralyzed,

579
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,559
thinks he was trying to do that a community wasn't

580
00:24:29,559 --> 00:24:31,440
a fan of. So that's where I'm saying this in

581
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,920
a way where it fe like the documentary wasn't just

582
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,839
a puffy which they could do because Christopher Reeve first

583
00:24:36,839 --> 00:24:39,039
comic movie ever. You can especially Supman's come out, you

584
00:24:39,039 --> 00:24:40,400
can play that out. But I kind of respected that

585
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,519
they showed like, Okay, there was some times in his

586
00:24:42,599 --> 00:24:45,240
life where I won't say controversial figure, but you know,

587
00:24:45,319 --> 00:24:48,640
maybe did things that people didn't enjoy. So I liked that.

588
00:24:48,759 --> 00:24:51,799
And uh yeah, no, it was a there's some heartbreaking

589
00:24:51,799 --> 00:24:54,000
stuff in there, but very very well made. So I

590
00:24:54,039 --> 00:24:55,880
would say anybody that's a fan of Christop Reeve or

591
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,480
Supman definitely checked that out. It's a documentary worth watching.

592
00:24:58,559 --> 00:25:00,920
So but yeah, that was it. That's a kind of

593
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,880
been it that way much. I'll probably be watching some

594
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,119
more movies soon. I'm hopefully gonna try and see a

595
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,640
Nora this week, because we did get Cineplex, not a

596
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,759
Grand ten, because grandten's a bike right away. Cineplex is

597
00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:12,599
a little bit more of a pain that I'm trying

598
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,759
to trying to figure it out, so we'll see, I suppose, says.

599
00:25:16,759 --> 00:25:19,640
The most I remember about Herbie Fully Loaded is that

600
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,039
Disney World has a bunch of theme hotels around it,

601
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,079
and one thing was Herbie themed, and I stayed there

602
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,960
once as a kid. I wonder if it's still Herbie themed.

603
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,279
I bet it's not her Hervey themed anymore. As I say,

604
00:25:31,319 --> 00:25:33,880
just because they're gutting everything from Disney, I feel like

605
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,920
all that old s which now yeah I have. I'm

606
00:25:38,079 --> 00:25:40,839
there's my boomer take. I hate that stuff. I hate

607
00:25:40,839 --> 00:25:43,039
there's all that stuff, like when they took out Tune World,

608
00:25:43,039 --> 00:25:45,599
Like I get it, they got the IP and everything.

609
00:25:45,839 --> 00:25:49,039
I guess I just wish they like did additional too,

610
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,319
like found more space and just built Oh here's your

611
00:25:51,319 --> 00:25:54,400
star Wars, here's your Marvel. But I loved that stuff,

612
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,480
and it sucks that when I go back, it's like, oh,

613
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:57,759
it's not gonna be that classic stuff.

614
00:25:57,799 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 3: But you know, well that's what they did with I

615
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,519
think Mountain has been like rebranded as Princess is a

616
00:26:03,599 --> 00:26:06,200
Tiana like Princess and the Frog like her ride now,

617
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,359
so yeah, so yeah.

618
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it though it's all business. Then finally

619
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,680
Subbs but Terrifier says, doing it for the po V

620
00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:14,640
the kid looking for Santa's a cool choice and evoke

621
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,279
that feeling I look around the house as a kid.

622
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,680
I agree, great opening, actually scary, and yeah, that's my

623
00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:21,480
point of just like usually they make Art the clown

624
00:26:21,559 --> 00:26:24,559
scary because it's like, look, he'll like chop off your dick,

625
00:26:24,599 --> 00:26:26,200
you know, like that type of stuff, and like they'll

626
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,480
show it. They'll just like in one movie, he just

627
00:26:28,519 --> 00:26:30,279
you just see him ripping off someone's penis, you know,

628
00:26:30,319 --> 00:26:31,880
and it's just like, yeah, this guy is fucked up,

629
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,799
Like that's why he's scary, because he might hurt you.

630
00:26:33,839 --> 00:26:36,519
But this was the act like he felt scary, like

631
00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:38,079
you couldn't even you could. I feel like you could

632
00:26:38,079 --> 00:26:40,400
have a rated ARC cut of the movie and actually

633
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,160
be scared of Art this time, even though he's quite comedic.

634
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,799
So all right, let's take our first ad break and

635
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,640
we'll be right back, and we are back, and Mario said,

636
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,920
you're a new subscribe, said, are you guys a Massafacan. Well,

637
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,720
we will be tumbling a little bit. We got everything

638
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,400
you want. We will be talking about in the show

639
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,720
at some point. So it's up there. Let's talk. Let's

640
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,119
get the he did, Let's get the anger part of

641
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,759
the way for Taylor Field, because who knows how much

642
00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:08,839
there will be to talk about here. But so this

643
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,640
came out today and this is all like hollyd Reporter deadlines.

644
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,960
This is top tier stuff. So Simon Kinberg, who I'll

645
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,680
go over his credentials in a little bit. Lots of hits,

646
00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:21,240
lots of missus, you know, stuff like he's wrote Days

647
00:27:21,279 --> 00:27:23,079
of Future Past. I would say that's a top ten

648
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,960
comic movie. He's wrote Dark Phoenix. It's he's that type

649
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,039
of guy where you look at like Ian for Taylor

650
00:27:28,079 --> 00:27:30,400
He's like he wrote The Shore, one of those Shorock

651
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,960
movies you like. But then he wrote Fantastic Four, you know,

652
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,160
like one of those where is it here? I just

653
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,759
gotta hit it again, Like that's it that that that's.

654
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: From the script, that's his writing.

655
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, say that again, Like I suppose to says Broom's

656
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,519
kid is gonna be like oh some about Skywalk and

657
00:27:46,519 --> 00:27:49,279
say again, so I'll go over his credentials. But it

658
00:27:49,319 --> 00:27:51,839
was announced today that he's not producing, which a lot

659
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,039
of his hits are more on the producing side. So

660
00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:57,039
I'm going to go over his writing credentials. But he

661
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,319
is writing a trilogy. Now, this is the thing where

662
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,400
it's not that it it's a it was misreported. It's

663
00:28:02,559 --> 00:28:05,759
some of these Scoopers have heard this trilogy is episodes

664
00:28:05,799 --> 00:28:08,279
ten to twelve, and then some have heard, nah, it's

665
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,240
just a separate trilogy. But it sounds like it is

666
00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:14,759
taking place after episode nine, so it sounds like, no

667
00:28:14,839 --> 00:28:18,000
matter what, it is a sequel going forward. I bet

668
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,640
the confusion, what's the confusion? I bet the confusion with

669
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:25,400
the Scoopers is probably I bet knowing Lucasfilm hasn't decided

670
00:28:25,599 --> 00:28:28,200
about what they're doing with this. I guarantee in some

671
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,279
boardrooms it's been like, Okay, it's probably labeled it's like

672
00:28:30,319 --> 00:28:32,759
episodes ten and twelve, but maybe like, ah, but do

673
00:28:32,839 --> 00:28:35,440
we want to call them that? Because that's obviously that's

674
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,880
a huge legacy thing. So Taylor obviously, so you can

675
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,000
get your rant, but I want to get just your

676
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,480
opinion of let's say, because we put a disclaimer last

677
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,440
couple of weeks ago, right when we talked about the

678
00:28:47,519 --> 00:28:49,279
Ray news, and I think all of us that we're

679
00:28:49,319 --> 00:28:50,920
giving someone what at least you and me were like, Okay,

680
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,319
we're kind of done. We'll talk about these things, but

681
00:28:53,359 --> 00:28:55,200
in as far as believing them, that was kind of

682
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,279
like the last straw of it. I know you're gonna

683
00:28:57,319 --> 00:28:59,440
rant on that, so you can take I'm saying table

684
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,480
that for a second. If this were to happen, do

685
00:29:02,519 --> 00:29:05,519
you like this idea and do you have a preference

686
00:29:05,559 --> 00:29:08,640
between actually getting episodes that are ten to twelve but

687
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,759
not maybe a Ray and Finn coming back. It's new people.

688
00:29:11,799 --> 00:29:13,480
And they did say here here's my last one too.

689
00:29:13,519 --> 00:29:16,319
They said, like characters you know could be involved with this.

690
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,640
It's not just like a for sure, you know, Ray

691
00:29:19,759 --> 00:29:21,160
is the lead of this movie because she has her

692
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,559
own movie over there, right, So would you prefer a

693
00:29:23,599 --> 00:29:25,880
ten to twelve or would you like, hey, it's a

694
00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:29,519
sequel that's going forward that it's yeah kind of you know,

695
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,680
with our characters, not with our characters, but it's still

696
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,640
not ten to twelve. So if it were to happen,

697
00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:35,720
that's what I'm asking you.

698
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: I you know, I just want something to happen at

699
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:46,519
this point. That's all I really really want. When this

700
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,400
concept pops up of it being a whole new Saga trilogy,

701
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,359
I'm thinking, okay, like, if they're doing ten to twelve,

702
00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:56,839
that tells me that it's Skywalker oriented, because that's what

703
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,240
the saga is. Basically, it's always a Skywalkers. And of

704
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,599
course then you'd incorporate Ray I'm sure, because she's a

705
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:09,039
Skywalker now. But it's just funny to think that we've

706
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,400
come this far since twenty nineteen being our last Numeral

707
00:30:13,759 --> 00:30:18,640
Star Wars film, and we've had just two spinoffs before then,

708
00:30:19,119 --> 00:30:22,160
not after before them, that are like standalone movies on

709
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,400
their own. Of course, now before this trilogy, we're getting

710
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,480
one the Manu and Grogu one, which that's okay, that's fair,

711
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,440
but it's hard to like, it's hard to get super

712
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,160
super stoked, but I'll save that for after. I like

713
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,039
the idea of them doing a ten to twelve, I

714
00:30:39,119 --> 00:30:41,240
really really do, but I just get scared of the

715
00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:43,240
story that we've had so far, and I feel like

716
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,839
we haven't spent enough time kind of mining into the

717
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,480
characters and the story and the lord that's been established

718
00:30:50,119 --> 00:30:52,240
for episode seven to nine, I feel like there's still

719
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,880
a lot to explore there and haven't tapped into it

720
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,799
a lot. So now that them already thinking like, hey,

721
00:30:56,799 --> 00:31:00,480
we're gonna jump to this saga here with a new trilogy,

722
00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:03,440
it's like, well, like how far into the future are

723
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,960
we going with that? And like what what is there

724
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,400
to really explore? It just makes me think like are

725
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,720
you gonna just pop up a new Palpatine again? Like

726
00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:15,240
what what do you do for this? Because the Sith

727
00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:19,200
aren't really a thing? But again, like I'm excited and

728
00:31:19,359 --> 00:31:20,799
I if I were to be in the theater and

729
00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:24,599
I would see that Star Wars episode ten, it's like drop,

730
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,400
I'd be like, oh man, those are Roman numerals. I'd

731
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,039
be like, oh, this is pretty cool, Like we're at

732
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,559
we're at ten right now for our X.

733
00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:33,599
Speaker 2: It's a real poster and you know they'll do lightsabers

734
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,359
for some posts, right Like, oh, there's a lot of

735
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,920
cool things they could do with Star Wars X. You know.

736
00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:41,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I at the end of the day, I'm

737
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:43,400
I'm excited for any Star Wars that we can just

738
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,160
we can get in the theater.

739
00:31:46,839 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: All right, And then how did you feel us? Or

740
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,920
I was bad? I forgot to bring up their credentials

741
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,680
of the actual writer because it supposedly which I guess

742
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,759
could be a good sign as far as maybe having

743
00:31:55,799 --> 00:31:58,680
one writer, because obviously with seven, eight and nine it

744
00:31:58,759 --> 00:32:02,119
bounced around a lot. So even with this guy's credentials,

745
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:03,799
it's kind of like, well, at least it's one guy.

746
00:32:03,839 --> 00:32:07,279
But here's everything he's written so as recently mister and

747
00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:10,200
Missus Smith, which is getting Emmy nominations, so that's good.

748
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,880
The three hundred and fifty five never saw it, but

749
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,000
I heard it's it's not good you have dark Phoenix

750
00:32:16,039 --> 00:32:17,920
in there, But then you got Stars Rebels. He wrote

751
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,160
seventy four episodes, so obviously you know big fan there.

752
00:32:21,519 --> 00:32:24,440
Then he has Apocalypse X Men, Apocalypse Fan for a stick,

753
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,319
Days of Future Past, and then this means War that

754
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,599
Chris Pine, Tom Hardy Reese Witherspoon spy movie. I'm not

755
00:32:32,599 --> 00:32:35,279
sure if you guys ever seen that. Okay, it's fun

756
00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:40,799
for Taylor, Sherlock Holmes, Jumper X Men, The Last Stand,

757
00:32:41,039 --> 00:32:46,000
which Sherlock Holmes the first so there you go, the

758
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,079
Mister and Missus Smith the movie, and then extra for

759
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,799
like State of the Union with William to phone ice

760
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,319
Cube sets his writing credentials because a lot of people

761
00:32:54,359 --> 00:32:56,960
and even articles will bring up like, oh, he produced

762
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,319
the Marsh and he produced Logan, he produced Days of Future,

763
00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:01,400
or he produce it's like Deadpool Wilvering. But it's like

764
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,400
that still can be a big thing. I'm not saying

765
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,480
producers aren't vital. They are, but that's not what he's announced.

766
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:12,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, so when he wrote seventy something episodes of Rebels,

767
00:33:12,279 --> 00:33:14,000
how much what would we be? Like, what's the rough

768
00:33:14,039 --> 00:33:16,079
percentage of overall rebels?

769
00:33:16,079 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 2: Then?

770
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,759
Speaker 1: If he wrote seventy episodes of that.

771
00:33:18,599 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: I oh gosh, over four seasons, he probably wrote most

772
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,559
of this. Yeah, each season is probably like twenty episodes,

773
00:33:27,559 --> 00:33:28,119
since there's.

774
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,839
Speaker 2: Seventy five, I do wonder. Let's see, let's say created

775
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,680
by Let's see it says seventy four not yeah, I

776
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,759
don't know. It doesn't maybe specify, but it sounds like

777
00:33:37,799 --> 00:33:40,839
he wrote, uh, like he was a part of the

778
00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:42,799
majority of that production.

779
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,039
Speaker 1: How's the writing of that?

780
00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: I prefer Rebels to clone Wars. I don't think Tay

781
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,400
will agree, but I think it's it's good. But it's

782
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,200
also in the guys of like, it still has to

783
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,599
be kiddies sometimes, right, So it's kind of tough.

784
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

785
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: Sorry, not happy with the rebels right up early.

786
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a Clone Wars guy over rebels for sure,

787
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,320
But I mean everyone's kind of got there their pick

788
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,559
what they like over the other, which is totally fair.

789
00:34:10,599 --> 00:34:12,760
You don't hear people talk about resistance that much. It's

790
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,079
usually just rebels Wars.

791
00:34:14,119 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: There's no resistance heads out there, no, no, uh yeah,

792
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,199
So this guy has I mean, he's done some.

793
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 3: Stuff that I actually really really like. I like that

794
00:34:23,039 --> 00:34:28,280
Sherlock Holmes movie quite a bit, and yeah, the Mister

795
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,840
and Missus Smith Show. It's actually there's some good stuff

796
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:31,239
in there too.

797
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 2: Me.

798
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,639
Speaker 3: You never talked about that, so honestly, it went over

799
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:38,039
my head to actually talk about it. So and uh, yeah,

800
00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:40,400
it was. It's it's not bad, we haven't finished it yet.

801
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,880
But then you have those other movies that he's done,

802
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,639
like Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix not yet, Dark Phoenix the

803
00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:51,800
Past unfortunately, and Fan for Stick, which we just stretchered.

804
00:34:52,519 --> 00:34:57,000
So it's fifty to fifty but I mean a lot

805
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,960
of people like Rebels. Rebels is a very highly praised show,

806
00:35:00,199 --> 00:35:02,599
and if he's been super well immersed in that and

807
00:35:02,639 --> 00:35:06,079
has worked with Filoni and has been creating that story,

808
00:35:06,159 --> 00:35:09,719
then I think that, Okay, there is definitely a strong

809
00:35:10,119 --> 00:35:13,199
resume Here's he's familiar with the world, and he's familiar

810
00:35:13,199 --> 00:35:17,079
with what needs to be done, and it's you know,

811
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,400
I'd give him the benefit of the doubt of that

812
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,679
being said, So if he was going in blind, didn't

813
00:35:21,679 --> 00:35:24,039
have any of that pre existing Star Wars experience, then

814
00:35:24,039 --> 00:35:25,880
I would be a little bit more apprehensive. But I

815
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,719
kind of like this, and I like the idea that

816
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,400
he is familiar with the universe. So we'll see how

817
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:36,039
that goes. Should I ran, We'll come back, We'll come back.

818
00:35:36,039 --> 00:35:38,159
Speaker 2: We'll give you a little break there before that app

819
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:39,119
should Iran.

820
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,079
Speaker 1: So Dylan, you know it's gonna be bad if he

821
00:35:42,079 --> 00:35:44,599
has to ask permission before he goes into Iran, because

822
00:35:44,599 --> 00:35:46,760
that's gonna be just a different level.

823
00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 2: So no, no, Dylan, you've been out on Star Wars.

824
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,920
But if this were to be the official, like hey,

825
00:35:52,159 --> 00:35:55,679
ten to twelve, this is the sequel to the classics,

826
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,639
the prequels and the very mixed sequel the sequel sequels,

827
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,039
Where are you on? That? Does that get you excited? Thinking?

828
00:36:03,079 --> 00:36:05,800
Oh man? You know, I don't think you ever be

829
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,280
like oh man, but like, like, okay, they maybe got

830
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,039
to take this a bit more.

831
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: I love Outlaws, right, so I'm like, I'm open to

832
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,000
it if you throw a good Star Wars thing in

833
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,480
front of me, and like, I'm into it. But I mean,

834
00:36:15,519 --> 00:36:17,400
here's the thing that there's two sides of this, where

835
00:36:17,519 --> 00:36:21,119
one is they can't get anything off the ground movie

836
00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:23,559
wise right now. Obviously Mando's that one seems like it's

837
00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:26,000
actually happening, so we're finally seeing something there, But there's

838
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,559
been so many things announced and canceled and people switching

839
00:36:28,559 --> 00:36:30,920
around and this and that, and so to me, it's like, okay,

840
00:36:31,079 --> 00:36:33,800
is the best idea to confirm a trilogy and that

841
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,440
to be your next idea if you can't even get

842
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:36,920
one movie to happen.

843
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,119
Speaker 2: Is they haven't confirmed this yet, but it's it's happening

844
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,599
like it's the high end Scoopers of God. But they didn't,

845
00:36:42,599 --> 00:36:44,400
they didn't put out a press release being like we're

846
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,320
for sure doing this.

847
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,199
Speaker 1: I'm aware, I'm just saying that, Okay, just like the

848
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,800
route that's going, Like, that's that's a lot to sign

849
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,519
up for. And I think to your point, I think

850
00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:54,320
picking one right or rather than giving each one to

851
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,639
someone different for a trilogy is not a great idea.

852
00:36:57,639 --> 00:37:00,599
And we saw how messy that made the sequel trilogy

853
00:37:00,679 --> 00:37:03,119
and all that as we went through his career there,

854
00:37:03,159 --> 00:37:05,159
I think he's a perfect pick. Like, yeah, he's got

855
00:37:05,159 --> 00:37:08,360
some stinkers in there, but like most directors or writers

856
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,440
do have something in there, unless they like only do

857
00:37:10,599 --> 00:37:13,320
very few things or even like some of the best,

858
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,599
Like you know, I have a couple in there that

859
00:37:14,639 --> 00:37:17,039
don't work for people. But like, he's done the big

860
00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:20,760
blockbuster movie stuff. He's done a shit ton of Star Wars,

861
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,159
so he seems like a fantastic pick for me. And

862
00:37:23,159 --> 00:37:25,199
if he wants to do the whole trilogy and they

863
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,559
can walk in on that, I think that's a good

864
00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:30,000
idea too. So from one angle, it's like, Okay, is

865
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,320
signing up for three movies a good idea? Maybe not

866
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:33,920
because they can't even get one to happen. But at

867
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,559
the same time, this whole, the whole movie, the whole

868
00:37:36,679 --> 00:37:38,480
Star Wars and everything is based off of and like

869
00:37:38,679 --> 00:37:40,840
where the Bread and Butter is. Four movies is with

870
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,280
the trilogy format, they did a couple of spin offs

871
00:37:43,599 --> 00:37:46,280
and Mando is happening as well. But for the most part,

872
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,480
that's kind of where these movies exist. That's where the

873
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,440
structure of it is. That's how they try and build

874
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,280
it up. And I'm sure that when they're writing episodes, well,

875
00:37:54,519 --> 00:37:56,599
especially with the Cases episode seven, they didn't know what

876
00:37:56,679 --> 00:37:59,280
was gonna happen nine. Maybe they had a few like

877
00:38:01,039 --> 00:38:03,800
but yeah, because of how people were different cooks in

878
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:04,960
the kitchen there, and then a lot of the Star

879
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,199
Wars like the other stuff too, with you know, going

880
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,119
back to the George Lucas air and whatnot. I'm sure

881
00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:11,639
he didn't plan every little detail before you know, they

882
00:38:11,679 --> 00:38:14,280
started shooting the first one whatever. So yeah, I don't know.

883
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,760
I think there's kind of a mixed bag here. But

884
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,360
of course, like at the end of the day, my

885
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,199
default stance here, my posture is great skepticism because I

886
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,239
don't know why this one would be any more legit

887
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,159
than the other ones that seemed very legit when they

888
00:38:27,199 --> 00:38:30,519
were announced at the time. So I mean, if they've

889
00:38:30,559 --> 00:38:32,440
scrapped everything which it seems like they have. We've got

890
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,159
a lot of info recently about things that are officially canceled,

891
00:38:35,159 --> 00:38:36,599
but there are still a lot of things in limbo.

892
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:38,880
I don't know. It seems like they have a decent

893
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,719
recipe here, but also we only have a writer, like,

894
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,000
you need a lot more than that for these things

895
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,199
to happen. So we'll see what happens. It's unlikely, but

896
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,519
if it does, yeah, I think they have a decent

897
00:38:48,559 --> 00:38:49,960
recipe going for them.

898
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's a couple angles where. The only

899
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,840
reason I wanted to mention the why it hasn't officially

900
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,800
been announced is I do think if they were to

901
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,840
ever announce this officially and say it's ten to twelve,

902
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,159
I actually, I know this sounds stupid for me to say,

903
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,199
but I would say it's for sure happening because I

904
00:39:05,199 --> 00:39:08,840
feel like that's like a I can't say sacred thing

905
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,360
because that sounds strange because like you know, I see

906
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,960
Kevin Davis as Disney Stars isn't bad at all. That's

907
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,840
where it's like, well, you know, for me, episode nine,

908
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,719
there's lots of issues and there's other stuff, right, so

909
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,280
it's like I don't consider.

910
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: I mean it isn't all bad, but we can't of course, yeah,

911
00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:22,719
it's all good.

912
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,559
Speaker 2: And I think, Kevin, if you because you might be

913
00:39:24,599 --> 00:39:25,880
new er, I think if you listen to most of

914
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,840
our stuff, we're more I think we're more positive than

915
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,199
we are negative. I've only failed I think three Star

916
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,159
Wars things out of the Disney era, which would have

917
00:39:34,159 --> 00:39:37,639
been Act like Boba and then Mando three, even Mandal three.

918
00:39:37,679 --> 00:39:39,679
I might have passed that, you know, but those other

919
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,159
two Bob and Actlte, those those those are definitely bad

920
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,320
for me. Those are some bad stuff. But I think

921
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,840
if they ever put pen to paper and it's Star

922
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,760
Wars celebration whatever, and they say, yeah, we're doing ten

923
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,679
to twelve, I feel like they have to because that's

924
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,159
kind of a Star Wars and the episodes are known

925
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,320
like they're legendary things. Right, even those last three doesn't

926
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,159
matter it. They all made a billion, they're big, and

927
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,679
I think that does raise some hype, and I think

928
00:40:02,679 --> 00:40:04,840
for me, that's what I need is the clarification. But

929
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,679
all I hope is that they have a writer. I

930
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,480
hope they never once say anything about this in public

931
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,480
until it's like done done, Like I mean, like they're

932
00:40:13,519 --> 00:40:15,519
good to go, not this, Hey we got someone writing

933
00:40:15,519 --> 00:40:18,440
these three movies, but they're still writing them. It's like,

934
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,599
that's great that these rumors are out there, or even

935
00:40:20,639 --> 00:40:22,400
just if they're high tier scoops. But it's just like,

936
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,239
I don't want it to be a situation like we're

937
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,760
doing with the Ray movie or the other stuff where

938
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,880
it gets called limbo, right, like don't say anything until

939
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,000
you're you're good to go. I'm not saying good have

940
00:40:31,039 --> 00:40:33,199
everybody cast. No, you don't have to do that. But like,

941
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,920
at least writer, we like these scripts. That's final. Director,

942
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,840
we like them. Producers, Okay, let's start casting. Boom, good

943
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,519
to go. Right. So the other thing for me is

944
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,000
it's interesting because if you look at episodes one to

945
00:40:45,039 --> 00:40:48,000
three and then four to six, they all have the

946
00:40:48,039 --> 00:40:50,920
same characters or themes, but they're they've never had the

947
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,000
same leads. So that's what puts a very interesting predicament

948
00:40:54,039 --> 00:40:58,599
with the Ray situation, because my knee jerk reaction is like, well,

949
00:40:58,639 --> 00:41:00,559
I'm disappointed if Ray is not the lead of these

950
00:41:00,639 --> 00:41:03,480
because she's around, and like with four to six, they

951
00:41:03,559 --> 00:41:05,880
did them so long that you know, the old the

952
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,000
original cast was older, the prequels, those were characters in

953
00:41:09,039 --> 00:41:10,960
the past, so they you know, the gay they were

954
00:41:11,039 --> 00:41:13,199
kids or not even born yet, the original actors in

955
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,639
the timeline. But this is the first time where if

956
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:19,000
you're doing a episode ten, you have an actress who's

957
00:41:19,079 --> 00:41:21,719
even better than she was when she started. I think

958
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,519
majority of people, even if they did not like those movies,

959
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,880
they even if they had issues with the Ray character,

960
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,440
they like Daisy Ridley and we hopefully welcomed her to

961
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,480
come back. I think people want to see that. So

962
00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:33,599
for me, if they say, hey, this is a trilogy

963
00:41:34,039 --> 00:41:36,920
that's just off in the distance, but it's still after nine,

964
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,639
then I'm fine. If Rai's not in it, or even

965
00:41:39,639 --> 00:41:41,760
the lead. If they do say it's ten to twelve

966
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,159
and Raise not the lead, that will rub me the

967
00:41:44,199 --> 00:41:46,239
wrong way a little bit. It will feel kind of odd,

968
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,920
especially if there's Jedis around and now I know someone

969
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,840
might say like, oh, well, Ray's gonna own movie. It's like,

970
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,760
well is she? You know, like that's where it's like again,

971
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,079
if that's for sure, If if it's a perfect world

972
00:41:57,119 --> 00:41:59,920
right and Kathy sits me down, she's like, I bet

973
00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:02,800
on my life that you know next year will be

974
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,199
in production of both these things and they were to

975
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,480
come out, then I'd say, Okay, they're doing this Star

976
00:42:06,519 --> 00:42:08,800
Wars episode ten without Ray, that's kind of odd. But

977
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,159
then she's doing her own movie, Okay, that's fine. Or

978
00:42:11,159 --> 00:42:13,599
are they gonna take on like an Avengers approach now

979
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:16,280
where episode ten is gonna be like, hey, Ray has

980
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,159
her own movie, She's gonna be in ten, but she

981
00:42:18,199 --> 00:42:20,760
won't be a main character, be ensemble. Like. I don't know,

982
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,840
because I still would want to see some of those

983
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,119
characters back, so it's it's interesting. Or I just wonder

984
00:42:26,199 --> 00:42:28,599
is their case where that Ray movie dies and some

985
00:42:28,639 --> 00:42:31,000
stuff just gets folded into this, you know, like they're

986
00:42:31,039 --> 00:42:34,800
in such a topsy turvy type of mode. So I

987
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,519
feel like and with the writer, I I don't know,

988
00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:40,119
I'd have to hear the pitch. I don't know how

989
00:42:40,119 --> 00:42:42,440
I feel about them doing an episode ten for sure.

990
00:42:42,559 --> 00:42:45,199
I think there might be one reason. It might just

991
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:47,639
be the almighty Dollar where I think you throw upsode ten.

992
00:42:48,199 --> 00:42:50,840
I think that's like a guaranteed almost billion dollar movie,

993
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,360
the you know, eleven twelve, that all depends on ten.

994
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,159
But I think ten just gets that that marketing, And

995
00:42:57,199 --> 00:42:59,000
like I said, you see the episode X and you

996
00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:01,440
see the Lightsabers, Like there's so much stuff they could

997
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,760
do and talk about. It's a sequel of a new

998
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,000
saga and all this stuff. Like I think that still

999
00:43:06,039 --> 00:43:08,639
brings that excitement, and that's the easiest thing for like

1000
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,440
our parents or GA people to jump on of. Like, oh,

1001
00:43:11,559 --> 00:43:14,960
like a Mando movie. I haven't watched the show. It's like, oh, uh,

1002
00:43:15,639 --> 00:43:17,840
whatever ones are they talked about, like oh, James Mangled

1003
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,360
making the first Jedi movie, Like, oh, that's kind of weird,

1004
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,400
like it's ten thousand years, Like I don't know about that,

1005
00:43:22,599 --> 00:43:24,880
but if it's Star Wars episode ten, everyone knows what

1006
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,599
that is, right, And it's like, oh, I've been following

1007
00:43:26,599 --> 00:43:29,480
the story. They're not paying attention when they're like this

1008
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,199
end of the Skywalker in episode nine, no one cares.

1009
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,480
They can have race Skywalker and ten they're Skywalkers, and

1010
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,800
the GA would be like, oh, I'm happy that Star

1011
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,039
Wars is back. Like to me, I know people don't

1012
00:43:40,119 --> 00:43:42,760
like to hear this, but like Star Wars and Skywalkers

1013
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,519
are is pretty much the same thing. It's just like

1014
00:43:44,599 --> 00:43:46,880
the words are a bit different, but people associate those

1015
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,360
two things. So yeah, I wish there was a better

1016
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,400
writer attached. It is very hit or missed. But at

1017
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,159
the same time, I think it's probably something that works

1018
00:43:55,199 --> 00:43:57,000
well in their system right and at least his work

1019
00:43:57,039 --> 00:43:59,800
with big blockbuster things. And that's why I said the

1020
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,400
score that I hope he just if there's like a

1021
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,320
substance juice lying around that has his skills from Days

1022
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,840
of Future past, I hope he's overdosing on that because

1023
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,679
I love Off, but I don't I there's also a

1024
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,840
lot of misses on there, and it's a big And

1025
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,480
that's where another thing too. If they say my last point,

1026
00:44:17,519 --> 00:44:20,119
if they say, hey, it's just a new trilogy like

1027
00:44:20,159 --> 00:44:23,079
the Ryan Johnson trilogy, then there's less pressure on it.

1028
00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:24,920
But if you tell me, hey, this is episode ten,

1029
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,360
that's where it's like, Okay, you guys better come loaded.

1030
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,159
Because that last trilogy, there's things I love in it,

1031
00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:31,880
and I think that I think it's a lot better

1032
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,440
than people give it credit for. Obviously got very messy,

1033
00:44:34,679 --> 00:44:36,039
but at the same time, this is kind of like

1034
00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:38,360
your mulligan, right, You're we're gonna run it back, We're

1035
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,519
gonna try again. Even though we said episode nine was

1036
00:44:40,519 --> 00:44:42,559
the end We're gonna try and do the saga or

1037
00:44:42,639 --> 00:44:46,760
a new saga again. And that's where I'm a little

1038
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,960
less confident on him. So and Kevin Day says, Katain

1039
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,719
Kennedy isn't going anywhere or I ain't going nowhere as

1040
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,840
the president lose film, no matter what the audience wants.

1041
00:44:55,519 --> 00:44:59,480
I won't say for sure, because here's the scenario, Kevin.

1042
00:44:59,519 --> 00:45:02,000
I let's say this is episode ten, it comes out

1043
00:45:02,039 --> 00:45:04,760
in at fucking tanks critically and money. I think then

1044
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,920
she'll be on her way out. But I think again,

1045
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,159
as I said this war, Kathy will never be fired.

1046
00:45:09,599 --> 00:45:13,480
She will she will retire quotation marks and be gone.

1047
00:45:13,639 --> 00:45:16,599
But I do think that these next two movies have

1048
00:45:16,639 --> 00:45:20,599
a lot to do with what's next for her career

1049
00:45:20,599 --> 00:45:23,199
and if they hit and if they don't know because

1050
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,719
Star Wars has been a mess. Indiana Jones lost them

1051
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,800
a lot of money last year and she spent you know,

1052
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,519
she was the main producer on that. So but yeah, ta,

1053
00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:33,760
what do you where's your rent now? With this?

1054
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, it's just at this stage of the game, Uh, Like,

1055
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,039
what's going on over there? I really really don't get it.

1056
00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:48,199
And we were talking about this in discord earlier, where

1057
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,199
it's probably everyone is just pitching all these ideas to her,

1058
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:57,280
and you know she's she's cashing in these checks and

1059
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,519
she's just green lighting all these different things, but then

1060
00:46:00,559 --> 00:46:03,920
you don't deliver on them. Yes, now we talked about

1061
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,320
you have like a one, two, three successes semantics.

1062
00:46:07,519 --> 00:46:09,599
Speaker 2: This is not green lights and development just just to

1063
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:10,800
play some antics.

1064
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 3: But this trilogy, yes, I'll give you that. But there's

1065
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,360
other projects too, Like they put out like a little

1066
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,480
sizzle reel for Patty Jenkins doing Rogue Squadron and then

1067
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,440
what we're gonna bring Ray or Daisy really out on

1068
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,119
stage and announce like here's like three new logos for

1069
00:46:26,199 --> 00:46:29,480
the new Star Wars, like three stand out films were

1070
00:46:29,519 --> 00:46:31,239
doing and all this different stuff and here's a new

1071
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,960
timeline all this era stuff and yeah, yaha, yaha.

1072
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: Like it just is.

1073
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,639
Speaker 3: Mind boggling that she's getting away with doing all this shit,

1074
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:44,400
like all these announcements and these it's I don't understand.

1075
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,599
I don't understand how you can keep doing that. And yes,

1076
00:46:46,639 --> 00:46:48,760
you have a couple wins under your hat. You've put

1077
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,119
out and you've given the step of approval on Yeah,

1078
00:46:51,159 --> 00:46:53,800
Mandalorian season one, two, three, and all these other shows

1079
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,000
that they've done too, which are great, they're little victories,

1080
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,480
but that one show, and that one victory does not

1081
00:46:58,639 --> 00:47:01,519
give you a full years worth of benefit to go

1082
00:47:01,559 --> 00:47:03,880
and cast a check in and just like sit, sit

1083
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,480
down and pat yourself on the shoulder, like I feel

1084
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,280
like you need to keep on producing and delivering and

1085
00:47:10,679 --> 00:47:13,320
working as a team, because I think that she has

1086
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,599
these ideas coming to her, but she needs to stop

1087
00:47:18,079 --> 00:47:22,199
losing writers on this shit. It's brutal. And the fact

1088
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,360
that Ray just lost her movies writer like a couple

1089
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,679
of months last month, actually is just horrendous. Now, I

1090
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,039
understand you mentioned too that this maybe this is just

1091
00:47:32,079 --> 00:47:34,440
what it's evolving into. They're working on the thing. Okay,

1092
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,280
you know what, let's just do a new trilogy, let's

1093
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,440
get Ray in there. We'll just have things kind of go.

1094
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,199
And maybe that's why the writer left, because that's just

1095
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,559
where things went. Maybe she's in the the throwing room.

1096
00:47:44,559 --> 00:47:47,239
She's in her fucking office and she's got all these.

1097
00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: Other that's where.

1098
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,639
Speaker 3: Spending the money in her own throwing room. She's got

1099
00:47:51,679 --> 00:47:54,880
all these suits in there, the shareholders, and they're like Kathy,

1100
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,559
we need to make some fucking money here. My checks

1101
00:47:57,559 --> 00:47:59,960
are running low. And so she's like, okay, well, you know.

1102
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,519
Speaker 2: You promised us with Indiana Jones. I just to correct,

1103
00:48:04,639 --> 00:48:07,280
I was. I don't think Mandalorian counts as a little win.

1104
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,400
In my opinion, Mandalorian it was a big win that

1105
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,760
helped launch Disney plus Grogu. The money on that.

1106
00:48:13,559 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 3: That was a good win, was also.

1107
00:48:15,639 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 2: A big wins next to Loki the most.

1108
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 3: When I say little wins, I mean like once a

1109
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,880
year like that. That is in my interpretation of a

1110
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:23,280
little win.

1111
00:48:23,679 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 2: Well, I got it if you just had one project

1112
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,760
like the year that Mando came out, like other than

1113
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,400
the Rise of Scott but even then, Rise of Skywalker

1114
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,559
came out made a billion and then Mando came out.

1115
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,559
Speaker 3: So like that's great, But then we're for Steam go.

1116
00:48:36,679 --> 00:48:37,920
Where did the steam go? After that?

1117
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 2: You're making a movie that you and uh is it you?

1118
00:48:41,039 --> 00:48:42,920
And didn't think it's gonna be a billion dollars.

1119
00:48:42,679 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 1: Or is it billion?

1120
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,519
Speaker 2: Kirk Right, you guys say, Criteria, you're on the bandwagon

1121
00:48:47,599 --> 00:48:47,960
right in the.

1122
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 3: Mando movie Pizza bet Oh, I don't remember which side

1123
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:52,119
I'm on.

1124
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: I'll pull it up.

1125
00:48:53,039 --> 00:48:55,199
Speaker 1: But if you your team one, Bill, I think I

1126
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:55,760
might be on.

1127
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 3: Team I think so.

1128
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 2: So that's where the steam's going. It's going to a

1129
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,119
billion dollar movie.

1130
00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 3: All I'm saying is that when you go through all

1131
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,119
the announced projects and all the that you are, I am, okay,

1132
00:49:07,199 --> 00:49:10,400
good good, I'm proud of that. I think that when

1133
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,480
you just when you look at where we're at now,

1134
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,159
all of the cancelations, all of the failed promises, and

1135
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,920
all of the back and forth and misdirections, that's what

1136
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,320
I'm sick and tired of. And I don't like having

1137
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:26,280
an indecisive, incompetent check cashing lady up there who's just

1138
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:35,559
like it's just she's she's bothering me, because I feel

1139
00:49:35,559 --> 00:49:43,280
like she needs to be focused on just not being

1140
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,320
so indecisive. You have people presenting you with all these

1141
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,159
ideas and sure, you know what, that sounds great, let's

1142
00:49:48,159 --> 00:49:50,079
do it. Let's do an announcement. Yeah yeah, YEAHA And

1143
00:49:50,119 --> 00:49:51,519
then you have that and then it's like, oh, you know,

1144
00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:53,079
we're not going to go through with that, We're just

1145
00:49:53,079 --> 00:49:54,880
going to move along to something else, and it's just

1146
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,360
it loses its steam. And I really hate that. I don't.

1147
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,320
I don't like these false empty promises. It's not great.

1148
00:50:01,679 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 2: Now.

1149
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 3: Yes, there are the odd little ones that we do get,

1150
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,480
like yeah, Mando and Obi Wan and stuff like that

1151
00:50:07,559 --> 00:50:11,000
are very successful and they're great and whatnot. But even

1152
00:50:11,039 --> 00:50:14,000
you said, there's stuff in Mando season two, stuff in

1153
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,800
Mendo season three, bookable bafets, So they're not two. They don't.

1154
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 2: Don't give me that two's almost perfect.

1155
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,159
Speaker 3: Season two's almost perfect season.

1156
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,519
Speaker 2: Don't try to throw me under the bus there. Yeah,

1157
00:50:22,679 --> 00:50:25,159
that's when Mando had the heat. It's not until season

1158
00:50:25,159 --> 00:50:27,719
three when they're bringing Lizzo and Jack Black and like

1159
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,519
what's going on with Star Wars here? You know, like

1160
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,760
that's not stuff I need going on here. So but

1161
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,599
I I hope it's also what din't alluded to though,

1162
00:50:35,639 --> 00:50:37,920
like because they canceled, act like, I know people don't

1163
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,480
like you know that they canceled. But still that's the

1164
00:50:40,599 --> 00:50:44,199
hope is maybe it is a sign of I guess

1165
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,480
I'm I'm not gonna talk myself into that I'm saying

1166
00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:48,119
it's a sign of change. I guess I just can't

1167
00:50:48,159 --> 00:50:51,079
believe it till I actually see it. But that's the thing.

1168
00:50:51,119 --> 00:50:53,320
If when these films comes out and hits a billion.

1169
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,119
Like that's why I do think if Mando hits a billion,

1170
00:50:55,199 --> 00:50:57,199
she won't go anywhere, because you can right off that.

1171
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 3: No, she will deem you know, she is not going anywhere.

1172
00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:03,440
And that's exactly right. They'll attribute it as her success.

1173
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,639
And yeah she approved it, yead YadA YadA, and everything

1174
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,280
she did, she absolutely did. She absolutely did.

1175
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,119
Speaker 2: But it's still.

1176
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right.

1177
00:51:15,559 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 1: Not really shareholders, though they were, they were mad at

1178
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:18,039
that one.

1179
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not the biggest viewers because.

1180
00:51:20,519 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 3: They released that on outside of Disney Plus too, didn't

1181
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:24,840
they on the other platforms?

1182
00:51:25,079 --> 00:51:27,599
Speaker 2: Something they got there, they got their Emmys and stuff

1183
00:51:27,639 --> 00:51:27,920
like that.

1184
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,159
Speaker 3: I it just bothers me how you can have someone

1185
00:51:31,199 --> 00:51:33,719
in a position of power who can steer it needs

1186
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,920
to be a leader, steer the ship and kind of

1187
00:51:36,119 --> 00:51:39,440
pave the way forward to help provide and deliver and

1188
00:51:40,639 --> 00:51:44,280
support the team. But if you're dropping writers and directors

1189
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,760
like this, that's not that's not a sign of good

1190
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:51,760
leadership in my opinion. Like I read this quote today,

1191
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,559
it was really good quote. It's like people don't quit jobs,

1192
00:51:53,559 --> 00:51:55,800
they quit bosses. But you know what, there's probably a

1193
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,159
lot of truth to that, because I mean, if you're

1194
00:51:58,199 --> 00:52:00,800
dealing with bad leadership, but I'm sure they're at Disney

1195
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:05,880
is probably riddled with some pretty bad leaders, you know,

1196
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,599
seeing especially with Inside Out too and how a few

1197
00:52:08,599 --> 00:52:11,679
other bad practices are kind of I think all these

1198
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,000
studios have that unfortunate too.

1199
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if I heard that cry, he'd had

1200
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,920
to pull it up, but like it's similar to video

1201
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,960
game animator stuff. Were very bad environments for the animators

1202
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,360
to be working and lots.

1203
00:52:25,079 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: Of the classic yeah, lots.

1204
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,119
Speaker 2: Of mistreating them and making them work all these hours.

1205
00:52:29,159 --> 00:52:30,920
I think the pro was like, well they got paid

1206
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,760
for it, but it was like this terrible working environments

1207
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,039
and stuff. And that's where probably most of these companies

1208
00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:39,519
like that's where I give my hope of like the

1209
00:52:39,519 --> 00:52:41,559
Neons and the A twenty fours, that all those smaller

1210
00:52:41,559 --> 00:52:44,519
companies that can hopefully try to be that way because

1211
00:52:44,559 --> 00:52:46,119
it's not this big like you got to hit this

1212
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,480
five billion thing or you know, someone's getting punished or

1213
00:52:49,559 --> 00:52:50,119
laid off.

1214
00:52:50,199 --> 00:52:55,519
Speaker 3: But I I just I defer to to Marvel. You know,

1215
00:52:55,559 --> 00:52:58,519
they they they set that goal, they set that standard

1216
00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:00,199
of what they were going to build towards right, it

1217
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:04,159
was a long journey getting towards endgame, and I think, okay,

1218
00:53:04,199 --> 00:53:07,599
like if you're I think that's what Star Wars needs

1219
00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:09,159
at this point. I think they need to have something

1220
00:53:09,199 --> 00:53:13,280
that they're building towards. And Menual Grogu they they you know,

1221
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,800
they as you said, Season three and book A Bofet,

1222
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:20,480
they definitely hit some murky ground, but they've built towards it.

1223
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,159
And I think that that's why I think the movie's

1224
00:53:22,159 --> 00:53:24,800
going to do a billion dollars, because they've established this

1225
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,400
little mini universe and they've built all these connections and

1226
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,559
relationships to these characters, and so I think that's where

1227
00:53:31,639 --> 00:53:34,159
we could really have it pay off. And I think

1228
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,039
that's what they need to do on a little bit

1229
00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:39,960
of a larger scale. That's why, in my opinion, these sagas,

1230
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,679
these trilogies tend to do well because you're building towards something,

1231
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,639
something climactic. Of course, it doesn't mean that it's necessarily

1232
00:53:46,679 --> 00:53:48,559
going to be executed in the best of ways, because

1233
00:53:48,559 --> 00:53:52,360
the last trilogy it's definitely a little messy, but you

1234
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,400
have some gold in there for sure. So I think

1235
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:56,920
that's what they got to do here. I think they

1236
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,199
need to come up with their not their end game,

1237
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,199
maybe they're Infinity or something big that they can kind

1238
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,480
of be striving towards, and then work at that and

1239
00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:08,719
just build towards a do like one movie here and

1240
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,079
then wait two years, Okay, we got the sequel, another

1241
00:54:11,119 --> 00:54:13,639
two years and that bam, we got like the finale

1242
00:54:13,679 --> 00:54:18,239
here or something like that. So just something consistent and cohesive,

1243
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,239
because when you think, oh, we're gonna do the Lando Show,

1244
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,119
We're gonna do the Solo movie, We're gonna do Rogue

1245
00:54:23,119 --> 00:54:25,119
one and yeah, yeah, yeah, and then while some of

1246
00:54:25,119 --> 00:54:28,480
those maybe bangers, you definitely do have some that are

1247
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,639
I don't know, it's just it's a one off, and

1248
00:54:31,679 --> 00:54:33,639
it's tricky because if you're trying to tell this story

1249
00:54:33,639 --> 00:54:36,119
with this character in an hour and a half, then

1250
00:54:36,199 --> 00:54:38,079
you can you can damage it like they did with

1251
00:54:38,159 --> 00:54:41,159
Han Solo by throwing again Maul into there into that

1252
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,320
story at the end and all this stuff and having

1253
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,920
characters they'll never be seen again unless it's like a

1254
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,000
comic book or whatnot. So I think that it's just

1255
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,960
you do a few movies building towards one climactic situation

1256
00:54:53,079 --> 00:54:54,920
or event. You get the time with the characters. You

1257
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,559
get to build the relationship and you get to build

1258
00:54:56,559 --> 00:54:58,519
the popularity and the excitement a little bit more than

1259
00:54:58,599 --> 00:55:02,239
just announcing all these and them things, which Star Wars

1260
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,320
should be able to do. But that ship is kind

1261
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:06,159
of sailed, I guess.

1262
00:55:06,199 --> 00:55:09,079
Speaker 2: But yeah, I just I just don't know if it

1263
00:55:09,119 --> 00:55:11,199
can work like that, like the way you're describing about

1264
00:55:11,199 --> 00:55:13,320
the one big event thing, because like I feel like

1265
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,199
then it does have to be ten and twelve. Then

1266
00:55:15,199 --> 00:55:18,920
it's like, well then are you just stuck making thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,

1267
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,480
because I just don't. I know, Like they're both fictional,

1268
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,559
but it feels something different when it's like with Marvel,

1269
00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:27,000
I guess, because there's multiverse and combook stuff and there's

1270
00:55:27,039 --> 00:55:29,199
all these stories where it's like, Okay, I can believe, Okay,

1271
00:55:29,199 --> 00:55:32,119
after Thanas is doctor Doom and after doctor Dumas, mag

1272
00:55:32,199 --> 00:55:34,360
need all this. But it's just it's like even that

1273
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,360
last shrilld you went back to Palpatine, It's like, how

1274
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:41,360
many more like Galaxy taking over big threats? Can we like,

1275
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,639
what can we build up to again? Like that's a

1276
00:55:43,639 --> 00:55:47,519
problem Star Wars. The biggest thing already happened and happened

1277
00:55:47,559 --> 00:55:49,239
in eighty three. You know, like that's the thing where

1278
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,719
it's like it's tough to I'm not saying remake or

1279
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,159
reboot it. I think one day they will probably remake

1280
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,280
Star Wars. But I think that's a I think that's

1281
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,920
when we're in our elder years, when like that generation

1282
00:56:00,159 --> 00:56:02,559
almost died off, Like, you know, let's cast a new

1283
00:56:02,639 --> 00:56:05,079
Luke Skywalker. Let's cast a new lay and change it

1284
00:56:05,159 --> 00:56:09,239
up a little bit. I think it will happen, but yeah,

1285
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,119
I don't know. But again, who knows if this will

1286
00:56:11,119 --> 00:56:14,280
even happen. Because at the same time, what Mike was

1287
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,440
saying here probably end this off here says, you guys

1288
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,360
think that they're very worried about releasing Stars that makes

1289
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,079
under a billion after so long. I think it's a

1290
00:56:22,119 --> 00:56:24,079
little bit of that. I think one you should not.

1291
00:56:24,639 --> 00:56:26,760
I know that's probably what they all think, and that's

1292
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,400
the mindset of it. I would imagine they should try

1293
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,519
and put themselves in a position where the movie doesn't

1294
00:56:31,559 --> 00:56:33,519
have to make a billion. I think that's a terrible

1295
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,199
gold pulse to have. I get it Rogue one and

1296
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,639
the trilogy, but just make it that you can be

1297
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,159
profitable and don't have to worry about like it, Like

1298
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,280
that should not be the norm of Like if we

1299
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,719
put out Mando and it's not a billion dollars, that's

1300
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,000
a failure. You know. Granted we don't know what the

1301
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,239
box office would be, but it shouldn't be that. But

1302
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,920
I think it's also just the reception, because I feel

1303
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:58,639
like they from it's from Solo, Last Jedi and Episode

1304
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,599
nine and even some of the TV show. I think

1305
00:57:00,639 --> 00:57:03,280
for some reason, they're the most like scared big company.

1306
00:57:03,639 --> 00:57:05,960
I think they're just so worried, Like look at Ryan Johnson.

1307
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:11,000
They right before Last Jedi. The scenario was he directs

1308
00:57:11,079 --> 00:57:14,400
Last Jedi. They loved it before it came out. They

1309
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,280
loved it so much a Game's oone trilogy that we

1310
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,119
went to make a billion dollars. In theory, you should

1311
00:57:19,119 --> 00:57:21,480
be like, well, that man should still get a trilogy

1312
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,360
because he made us a billion dollars, right, But because

1313
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,239
I think for them, it is more the reception than

1314
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,760
the actual money. I think the money, of course is

1315
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,639
always important, but I think they're just so scared about like,

1316
00:57:32,639 --> 00:57:34,079
oh what if these people don't like it? What if

1317
00:57:34,119 --> 00:57:36,320
this fan base? It's like he just kinda have to go,

1318
00:57:36,519 --> 00:57:38,519
like just pick something and go and if it doesn't work,

1319
00:57:38,559 --> 00:57:40,840
then move on next thing and go, Okay, that didn't work,

1320
00:57:41,199 --> 00:57:42,119
move on from there.

1321
00:57:42,159 --> 00:57:45,239
Speaker 3: And I think it's just that's what they did with Accolyte.

1322
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,119
Basically they picked it, it's didn't work, so they've moved

1323
00:57:48,159 --> 00:57:48,719
on from.

1324
00:57:48,519 --> 00:57:51,079
Speaker 2: There, right, And that to me hopefully shows some sort

1325
00:57:51,079 --> 00:57:53,920
of not we have to stick with this now. Like

1326
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:55,920
I said, I think if you announce we're doing a

1327
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,599
sequel trilogy, you kind of have to stick with that.

1328
00:57:58,599 --> 00:58:01,360
That feel very odd for Star Wars to put on

1329
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,920
episode ten doesn't work and they go, well, I guess

1330
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,280
you're not gonna get episode eleven and twelve, Like I

1331
00:58:06,599 --> 00:58:09,320
would feel that's something you have to fully commit to,

1332
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,920
and again they it would be successful. But that's where

1333
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,800
I'm hoping it's not ten right now. Maybe you think

1334
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,320
we're on a winning streak. I would, but I don't know.

1335
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:18,760
Ten is. It's risky.

1336
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 3: So I wish that you know, Accolyte was done a

1337
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,400
little bit better because that could have paved the way

1338
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,159
to something if they did a season two and then

1339
00:58:25,159 --> 00:58:28,880
all of a sudden, we're getting a higher public movie. Uh,

1340
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,840
with some crazy shit going on there in the theaters

1341
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:32,519
like that would have just been a very cool dynamic.

1342
00:58:32,519 --> 00:58:36,800
But unfortunately that I think that era has been killed

1343
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:37,800
for live action.

1344
00:58:38,519 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let's take your next AD break and we'll

1345
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,800
move on and hopefully something happens. We'll see what happens come.

1346
00:58:44,199 --> 00:58:46,159
I think Star Wars cele rations next year. Samil will

1347
00:58:46,159 --> 00:58:49,159
get some updates, but really it doesn't matter till they're

1348
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,280
role on cameras. We know this. It's like, whatever updates happened,

1349
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,719
it's all capoote until then. But let's take another AD

1350
00:58:55,719 --> 00:58:59,079
break and we're back. So if you didn't want to

1351
00:58:59,079 --> 00:59:01,599
get that AD break, you could join Patreon right now

1352
00:59:01,639 --> 00:59:05,400
and get every single episode we do ad free early,

1353
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,159
get exclusive episodes depending what tyran. There's Bread and Butter,

1354
00:59:09,199 --> 00:59:12,559
which is our monthly topic show. We have the Fantastic

1355
00:59:12,599 --> 00:59:16,119
four retrospective and the Superman retrospective. We're reviewing every single

1356
00:59:16,159 --> 00:59:18,679
film in those franchises before those movies come in July.

1357
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,039
They're releasing monthly, but if you're a Patreon producer, you

1358
00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:24,920
get all those episodes early as well. So that's always

1359
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,400
a good perk. As we just talk about two, you

1360
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,239
can pick a movie, game, whatever, something for us to review.

1361
00:59:30,679 --> 00:59:33,320
That's always fun. You can join after nine, which we'll

1362
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,320
be back in a couple of weeks. And then another

1363
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,079
thing is that any tier you can send in questions,

1364
00:59:37,079 --> 00:59:38,599
which I forgot to do at the beginning, So we're

1365
00:59:38,639 --> 00:59:41,360
gonna do right now. I'm gonna start off with Sam.

1366
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,960
He said, what's your hype level? Heretic I can't wait.

1367
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,320
I think that because we're all here, I don't know

1368
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,559
how high it is. I am excited to see it

1369
00:59:49,719 --> 00:59:52,559
once it's streaming. I think the movie looks good. I

1370
00:59:52,719 --> 00:59:54,320
just there's too many things to pick and like I

1371
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,679
said the beginning, I have to try and find a

1372
00:59:56,719 --> 00:59:59,320
time to see a nore and that's taking the precedence.

1373
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,519
But no, it's like a like a seven at ten

1374
01:00:02,599 --> 01:00:03,360
for hype levels.

1375
01:00:04,159 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm saying I'd watched that one at home, of course.

1376
01:00:07,599 --> 01:00:09,760
I love I love a movie where people are stuck

1377
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:11,199
in a creepy guy's house.

1378
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 3: You know.

1379
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: Ye, it's a classic. It's it's a back to formula

1380
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:15,679
that I'll take any day of the week, so I'm

1381
01:00:15,719 --> 01:00:18,360
into it. I like the performance from the guy that

1382
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,519
I can't remember his name, but I think that yes,

1383
01:00:20,599 --> 01:00:22,960
and then the two other people I'm not sure what

1384
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:24,679
their names are, but I don't know. It looks fun.

1385
01:00:24,679 --> 01:00:26,480
I'm into it, so I'll definitely check that one out

1386
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:27,519
at some point to.

1387
01:00:27,519 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought this one might be when you're sneaking

1388
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:29,719
away too.

1389
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:34,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one I man November. November is a

1390
01:00:34,639 --> 01:00:38,880
booked month, and to get to get like just between

1391
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:43,920
movies and birthdays and stuff like that, just I'm limited

1392
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,559
on sitter time. You know, that's bank time. And this

1393
01:00:47,599 --> 01:00:49,280
is what I really really wanted to see, but I

1394
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,519
got to choose the time properly. I wanted to take

1395
01:00:51,559 --> 01:00:53,320
Madison to see this really really bad because I keep

1396
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,239
seeing trailers pop up and I'm thinking, man, this just

1397
01:00:55,239 --> 01:00:58,039
looks like a really enticing story. I want to know

1398
01:00:58,119 --> 01:01:01,599
what's going on here. So it'll probably be one that

1399
01:01:01,639 --> 01:01:06,800
we don't get around to seeing until probably when it

1400
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,360
comes out on DVD, not DVD, when it comes out

1401
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:10,920
of streaming.

1402
01:01:11,039 --> 01:01:15,039
Speaker 2: So DVD is other than the Big Short. What's the

1403
01:01:15,119 --> 01:01:16,920
last time Madison brought you to a movie?

1404
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 3: When Madison brought me to a movie?

1405
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, other than the Big Short, because you're like, oh,

1406
01:01:21,119 --> 01:01:22,599
this is what I really want to bring her to.

1407
01:01:22,639 --> 01:01:25,119
Speaker 3: And it's just the Big Short I'm always bringing her

1408
01:01:25,159 --> 01:01:27,599
to the movies. She's the Big Short. I think is

1409
01:01:27,719 --> 01:01:30,119
probably like the only movie she's actually brought me.

1410
01:01:30,119 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 2: To, and she just really likes the Big Short.

1411
01:01:32,719 --> 01:01:37,119
Speaker 3: Like you know, we're gonna have to ask her. I'll

1412
01:01:37,159 --> 01:01:39,599
have to ask her because I don't I don't know,

1413
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,800
but I for my birthday this year, I think we're

1414
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,079
gonna be doing if. Coincidentally enough, Back to the Future

1415
01:01:45,159 --> 01:01:47,320
is playing at Bernie's and I'm thinking, you know what,

1416
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,400
I'd love to see that, So that might be what we.

1417
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,639
Speaker 2: Uh last year, you thought you were seeing Napoleon and

1418
01:01:51,679 --> 01:01:52,920
then you saw the Big Shorts.

1419
01:01:53,039 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 3: I know that backfired.

1420
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:58,159
Speaker 2: I don't know about that, but uh yeah, so maybe

1421
01:01:58,159 --> 01:02:00,480
you'll get our thoughts on it at some point. Uh,

1422
01:02:00,679 --> 01:02:04,360
let's see. Dalton Toler asked, when's the Daredevil retro happening?

1423
01:02:04,719 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 3: Uh.

1424
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 2: The plan is hopefully I having the calendars, but the

1425
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:12,039
plans for Taylor and Kirkland to review this every month,

1426
01:02:12,079 --> 01:02:15,639
so it'd start December, so you got episode December February

1427
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,519
and or sorry, December January if we jump to mar

1428
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,519
jumped a month there because it does release in March,

1429
01:02:21,559 --> 01:02:25,800
so you even if it's December thirty. First, you should

1430
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,679
expect an episode, and if not, then I expect you to.

1431
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,039
You can badge r Taylor and Kirklan the discord all

1432
01:02:31,079 --> 01:02:33,800
you want. I'll give them Your'll give you their phone numbers.

1433
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,880
You can text them because they've been talking about this

1434
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,280
retro for like three years. So, uh, it should be

1435
01:02:39,519 --> 01:02:41,559
by December. You should be getting the first episode. Taylor,

1436
01:02:41,559 --> 01:02:42,880
you start watching it yet?

1437
01:02:43,559 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 1: Uh no, but I will be.

1438
01:02:45,679 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 3: I've been gearing myself up to uh start popping off.

1439
01:02:48,519 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 1: To watch Herbie traveling.

1440
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:51,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you watch? Yeah? And how do you

1441
01:02:51,679 --> 01:02:52,960
gear yourself up to watch it?

1442
01:02:54,159 --> 01:02:56,199
Speaker 3: Everyone else has gone to bed and I can just

1443
01:02:56,239 --> 01:02:58,159
put it on. But that's how you.

1444
01:02:58,119 --> 01:03:00,199
Speaker 1: Get out the billy clubs and you're living. Yeah, kind

1445
01:03:00,199 --> 01:03:01,199
of swing them around a little bit.

1446
01:03:01,639 --> 01:03:05,079
Speaker 2: They're making some sleep postion or something like that. Two

1447
01:03:05,199 --> 01:03:06,719
questions that were in patron but I ask right now.

1448
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:08,119
Kim Day says, when do you think you'll get a

1449
01:03:08,159 --> 01:03:11,079
SOAKA season two? I think that's coming twenty twenty six.

1450
01:03:11,199 --> 01:03:13,840
I think we're far off there. And then Kim Day says,

1451
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,639
do you think Gladier Too and Wick are going to

1452
01:03:15,639 --> 01:03:19,480
make money at the box office? And surprise, yes, I

1453
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,599
think Ladier too. I think they're both. I think Wicked's

1454
01:03:21,599 --> 01:03:24,119
like tracking it like one hundred plus and I think

1455
01:03:24,159 --> 01:03:27,320
Gladier's are tracking it like sixty five. And if I'm

1456
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,639
going by I did not think it would happen. But

1457
01:03:29,639 --> 01:03:31,920
if I'm going by Barbenheimer, which looks like this could

1458
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,320
be like I'll say, a Benni version, I don't think

1459
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:35,920
these films are gonna be as big, but if it's

1460
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:39,239
similar to that, those films did better than projected. So yeah,

1461
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,159
I was surprised by them both because I wasn't sure

1462
01:03:41,159 --> 01:03:43,880
if peop would care about Gladiator again without Russell Crowe.

1463
01:03:44,199 --> 01:03:46,360
And I didn't know if people would care about Wicked

1464
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,199
and the musical element, even though I don't think they

1465
01:03:48,239 --> 01:03:50,519
have to show it that much. So I'm surprised. But

1466
01:03:50,559 --> 01:03:52,840
supposedly they are tracking well, so I think they're gonna

1467
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:53,239
make money.

1468
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,159
Speaker 1: So same, Yeah, And I'm happy because.

1469
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 2: I have Wicked, and if Wicking can do well, that's

1470
01:03:58,039 --> 01:04:00,840
the final nail the coffin for mister muss here. If

1471
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:04,320
Wicked bombs, that's where I'm a little I'm a little iffy,

1472
01:04:04,519 --> 01:04:07,719
you know, So Supert Mike, he's excited for Wicked hater. Yeah,

1473
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,280
he's doing the double feature, so happy and last one there.

1474
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,039
Do you think one or two make a billion is

1475
01:04:13,119 --> 01:04:18,800
tracking more than Inside Out? I think so because it's

1476
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:22,280
so close to Christmas. I think that's a big I

1477
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,719
know Lion King's out, but I just feel like, am

1478
01:04:25,719 --> 01:04:27,360
I wrong in the scenario? Do you guys think of

1479
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,760
families walk out and you got Lion King playing and

1480
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,159
ma Wantitude playing? I just feel like, did you do

1481
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:32,639
wanted to?

1482
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: Linking?

1483
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 2: Though?

1484
01:04:33,519 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 1: It's like move faster story, like no one cares about

1485
01:04:36,519 --> 01:04:37,199
that so and.

1486
01:04:37,159 --> 01:04:39,159
Speaker 2: That's what I mean. I just feel like, oh moaned two,

1487
01:04:39,199 --> 01:04:40,880
Like I like the rock, I like the first one.

1488
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,199
I just feel like that's the easy one. It's either

1489
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,199
malanitu or a nus raw to you know.

1490
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: I don't think ma Wana is gonna do a billion.

1491
01:04:48,039 --> 01:04:49,320
I think it's gonna, oh.

1492
01:04:49,239 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 2: Really to perform a little bit.

1493
01:04:50,519 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, not tremendously, but yeah, it's not gonna have

1494
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:58,079
the juice of the first one, okay, Taylor oh Molana.

1495
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like there hasn't been a that's amount

1496
01:05:00,599 --> 01:05:02,039
of hype for.

1497
01:05:02,519 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 2: I guess not seeing the discord. It has better pre

1498
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:06,960
sales Inside Out too, when that's the biggest anime movie

1499
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:07,360
all time.

1500
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:09,599
Speaker 3: Like, I think it's I missed that in discord.

1501
01:05:09,719 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's it's cooking that hype.

1502
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,519
I just think you don't. You're not around the six

1503
01:05:14,559 --> 01:05:17,199
and seven year olds. My kids are, My kids are.

1504
01:05:17,239 --> 01:05:17,519
Speaker 1: I'm not.

1505
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 2: That is true, that's true.

1506
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, Halloween was walking around the streets and there everywhere.

1507
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,519
Speaker 2: But you gotta ask what we wanted to next next year,

1508
01:05:24,559 --> 01:05:28,280
ask what we wanted to Yeah, yeah, should have a

1509
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,039
billion tai because this is free range. Because none of

1510
01:05:30,119 --> 01:05:30,440
us got.

1511
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:34,079
Speaker 3: It'll make a billion. It'll make a billion, yea. God

1512
01:05:34,159 --> 01:05:35,239
damn drafted it.

1513
01:05:35,599 --> 01:05:37,159
Speaker 2: Well, we couldn't. It wasn't a movie when we did

1514
01:05:37,199 --> 01:05:39,599
the draft. Remember it was a Disney plush thing and

1515
01:05:39,639 --> 01:05:40,400
then they turned.

1516
01:05:40,199 --> 01:05:42,119
Speaker 3: It into all those fuckers.

1517
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 2: So we didn't get that. Yeah, so uh let's see

1518
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,480
here and then uh, Mike, we're gonna answer your question

1519
01:05:48,519 --> 01:05:51,480
after the mass effects stuff, and then Dalton Toy's last question,

1520
01:05:51,639 --> 01:05:53,920
a question I'm sure you've all answered a lot of times.

1521
01:05:54,159 --> 01:05:56,159
If I hadn't heard, was the g versus origin. So

1522
01:05:56,199 --> 01:05:59,280
we can give a trunk had version. Let's see if

1523
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:00,159
you can explain.

1524
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 1: It Taylor was enthused when this popped up in our chat.

1525
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got geeks happened. Let's see if he gets wrong.

1526
01:06:08,239 --> 01:06:12,719
Speaker 3: Oh, I remember, I remember meeting you in the back

1527
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:13,559
room of Target.

1528
01:06:16,199 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: I remember meeting the warehouse. It's not like some secret sex.

1529
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:22,599
Speaker 2: Dylan's back room.

1530
01:06:24,679 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 3: I remember you invited me over to play a small

1531
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,199
little smash journey you had to celebrate on the WIU

1532
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,599
the new Smash in your place. Yeah, that was pretty cool.

1533
01:06:33,239 --> 01:06:37,599
I remember meeting Travis. I think this was when Target

1534
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,000
was announced that things were going to start winding down.

1535
01:06:40,079 --> 01:06:42,400
I talked to you the odd time through presentation, but

1536
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,519
I think when things are winding down, I remember we

1537
01:06:44,519 --> 01:06:46,199
were all in one of the aisles. I think it

1538
01:06:46,239 --> 01:06:48,960
was maybe near the towel section, and we were talking

1539
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,039
about movies and comic book stuff like that. I think

1540
01:06:52,079 --> 01:06:56,000
Spider Man three was up for discussion there. Yeah, great time,

1541
01:06:56,079 --> 01:06:56,760
Great time.

1542
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 2: You mean because Kirkle only worked at that point, like

1543
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:03,000
maybe once twice a week, Like he was very casual.

1544
01:07:03,079 --> 01:07:05,239
But I think you guys were doing it was you

1545
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,719
were very close to the electronics section because that's where

1546
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:09,440
I worked at the top of electronics.

1547
01:07:09,559 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's yeah, came up. That's where I met

1548
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,840
Kirkland too, because he started on Flow team in the

1549
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,119
back and I remember Vance set me up to work

1550
01:07:17,159 --> 01:07:17,960
in the age.

1551
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:19,519
Speaker 2: To be clear, we all worked at Target. I don't

1552
01:07:19,559 --> 01:07:20,639
think we ever said that we all.

1553
01:07:20,599 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 1: Were Canada when it exists. For about a year and

1554
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:27,039
a half. In that window of time, the stars aligned.

1555
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 3: Exactly, which is crazy. Yeah, kirkl I met and we

1556
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,800
were working electronics together, putting stuff away in the morning,

1557
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:38,559
and that was great because we were talking about alien isolation.

1558
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 2: Nothing's changed, We're talking about hell last and I tried

1559
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:45,679
to talk to him out they wouldn't talk to.

1560
01:07:45,639 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 3: Me, and that's I can't remember the Dying Light. We

1561
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,119
talked a lot about Dying Light right there, many many

1562
01:07:51,119 --> 01:07:57,199
a time past talking about all that. And so after that, well,

1563
01:07:57,559 --> 01:07:59,599
we you held a party, Travis, and there was a

1564
01:07:59,599 --> 01:08:02,960
bunch of us, but that's the tart. It's Target closing party.

1565
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,440
And then some of us still were in communication through

1566
01:08:05,519 --> 01:08:08,519
one of those Facebook group chats, and that's where you

1567
01:08:08,679 --> 01:08:10,679
three had popped off. Well, we're all talking about it,

1568
01:08:10,719 --> 01:08:13,719
and then it's like, hey, let's maybe just try doing

1569
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,960
a podcast, and I think a joke in itself.

1570
01:08:17,039 --> 01:08:18,600
Speaker 2: Well, I guess you can say it was joke. You

1571
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,239
were the first one to say that about doing something

1572
01:08:21,239 --> 01:08:22,680
and then we all go one that. But I don't

1573
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,319
even know how because the group chat was us three,

1574
01:08:25,399 --> 01:08:27,119
Kirkland and Jessica, and I don't even know how that

1575
01:08:27,319 --> 01:08:29,159
like five. I guess maybe it's just we talked the

1576
01:08:29,199 --> 01:08:31,560
most together at Target at that time. But I don't

1577
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,239
even know like who started that or how that became

1578
01:08:34,279 --> 01:08:36,000
a thing, because like I said, I did hell the party,

1579
01:08:36,039 --> 01:08:37,760
and I did have other friends at Target that like

1580
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,079
were there invited, so it wasn't just like oh, me

1581
01:08:40,199 --> 01:08:42,199
and the four of you guys, like there was other

1582
01:08:42,199 --> 01:08:44,239
people there. But I, like, I don't remember how we

1583
01:08:44,279 --> 01:08:45,560
got to like the Yeah.

1584
01:08:45,359 --> 01:08:46,560
Speaker 1: I wonder who made that group.

1585
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,600
Speaker 2: Chat that's five. Yeah, I'm not sure you'd have to

1586
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:55,039
scroll back long time scroll. Yeah, But no, you were

1587
01:08:55,039 --> 01:08:57,800
the one that suggested it because we, funny enough had

1588
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,479
the idea right after E three, not like for where

1589
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,960
because we were just pulling off. I think the really

1590
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,760
impetus was because that was the year Nintendo had a

1591
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:07,760
really bad conference, and I think we were all just like,

1592
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:09,439
oh man, what do they doing? And we were all

1593
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,119
big Nintendo fans. I feel like that's something probably other

1594
01:09:12,199 --> 01:09:15,640
than Kirkland, who thought Nintendo was stupid mostly overall, like

1595
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:18,359
some of it was mean, but some of it wasn't,

1596
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:20,479
especially the switch. He was never on board for a while,

1597
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,079
but we were big Nintendo fans, so I think we

1598
01:09:23,079 --> 01:09:26,560
were just so disappointed. I think there's many just group texts,

1599
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:28,399
and that's where I think you just always just talk

1600
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:30,159
and do a podcast. I remember it was you and

1601
01:09:30,199 --> 01:09:32,880
then yeah, and then we started looking into and we

1602
01:09:33,039 --> 01:09:34,840
looked into libs and all that stuff. But yeah, it

1603
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:36,680
is crazy to think that it just kind of happened.

1604
01:09:37,119 --> 01:09:41,760
It was the Puppet E three as it was that

1605
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:43,479
because you can hear about it. We talk about it.

1606
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,079
I don't think we tell about the creation. But on

1607
01:09:45,119 --> 01:09:48,520
our very first episode, I can't remember. It might be

1608
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,399
Dylan's because the first episode was every we did half

1609
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,600
year mark and it was what was your favorite thing

1610
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,159
in the year and what was your sass thing of

1611
01:09:56,199 --> 01:09:59,239
the year, And mine was like for content, not like life,

1612
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,560
and mine was Hannibal. So I didn't bring it up,

1613
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,159
So it's either Dylan. I feel like it was Dylan

1614
01:10:04,239 --> 01:10:06,000
that brought up the Nintendo E three is like your

1615
01:10:06,039 --> 01:10:09,079
disappointment of the year saying okay, and I think, yeah,

1616
01:10:09,159 --> 01:10:11,039
go back, the episode's there. The audio is probably gonna

1617
01:10:11,079 --> 01:10:14,520
be fucking awful because we were in Dylan's basement and yeah,

1618
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:15,800
that's that's what happened.

1619
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 1: Now we're we have one mic that would be on

1620
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,840
a bench on top of a Wii. Yeah, and then

1621
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:25,079
we'd all sit around that, uh in very different time,

1622
01:10:25,119 --> 01:10:27,039
you know, we'd be rocking our pj's. It'd be very

1623
01:10:27,039 --> 01:10:29,880
different because there was no camera quite some time. And

1624
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:31,319
it's funny. I was just laughing about that when we

1625
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:33,840
have the intro that plays on the YouTube version if

1626
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,520
you watch there, Like those clips are also old, Like

1627
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,439
we don't have any new clips in there. It's all

1628
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,199
from the old basement days and the variety of basements

1629
01:10:42,199 --> 01:10:43,239
that we recorded in.

1630
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,159
Speaker 2: I think for the eleventh year, I want to make

1631
01:10:46,159 --> 01:10:47,920
a new opening. But at the same time, it's like

1632
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,760
mostly clips are just like us in these squares. You know,

1633
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:51,279
it's not you.

1634
01:10:51,199 --> 01:10:53,560
Speaker 1: Can see the Wii on the under the mic and

1635
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:55,560
almost all those shots. That's it was part of the

1636
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:56,720
identity for some reason.

1637
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, it's crazy, like even just thinking about

1638
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,279
like how we all end up at like I I

1639
01:11:01,359 --> 01:11:03,560
was at best Buy and I left best Buy because

1640
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,960
I got a job at Tellus, and then that felt through.

1641
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:07,760
They laid off a bunch of people and just like oh, yeah,

1642
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:09,600
you don't have a job anymore. I never worked there

1643
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,199
and they were a terrible company, because I remember they

1644
01:11:12,239 --> 01:11:13,920
they didn't tell me for like weeks. I just thought

1645
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,039
I had a job, and then I this person like, yeah,

1646
01:11:16,079 --> 01:11:19,079
could me call? And I called them like every second day.

1647
01:11:19,199 --> 01:11:20,399
Nothing to vent buy.

1648
01:11:20,359 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 3: Good things, like it's all good. I got a job.

1649
01:11:22,039 --> 01:11:22,840
Start spending money.

1650
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,159
Speaker 2: You don't know I did. I remember, I was not

1651
01:11:26,279 --> 01:11:30,760
happy when I was off. I think I bought. Uh

1652
01:11:31,119 --> 01:11:33,560
maybe it wasn't. I can't remember. There was some big

1653
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,960
purchases I did make, but I thought I had h

1654
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:39,359
Does that a breath of while that came out? No,

1655
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:41,880
that was further in the podcast that, but it was, yeah,

1656
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:43,840
there's something like that where I did buy because I

1657
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:45,680
did think, yeah, I had a job, and they said

1658
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,720
you're hired, and tell Us was paying better than I

1659
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,600
was where I was working at that time, and then

1660
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:51,439
it's like, oh, yeah, no, it's not happening. So I

1661
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:53,640
ended up a targeting like a flukecause then I went

1662
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:55,239
back to best Buy and they're like, oh, you feel

1663
01:11:55,319 --> 01:11:57,760
we filled your position and like you could do this.

1664
01:11:57,920 --> 01:11:59,920
And I had a you know, a falling out with

1665
01:12:00,119 --> 01:12:01,920
one of my bosses, which is all good now because

1666
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,079
we got back together and I went back to Target. He's, uh,

1667
01:12:04,319 --> 01:12:06,279
he's a good guy overall at the end of the day.

1668
01:12:06,359 --> 01:12:10,600
But I end up I targeted like a fluke because

1669
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,119
I was like, well, I just need a job, and

1670
01:12:12,159 --> 01:12:14,159
I got part time there. So like literally, if Tels

1671
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,239
didn't lay off a bunch of people and on hire me,

1672
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,279
I would we this might have never started, or maybe

1673
01:12:20,279 --> 01:12:22,119
it'd be you four and not me or you three,

1674
01:12:22,199 --> 01:12:23,479
But like I wouldn't have been a part of that

1675
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:26,399
because I was, yeah, it's a mistake that I stumbled

1676
01:12:26,399 --> 01:12:27,039
into Target.

1677
01:12:27,159 --> 01:12:29,279
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's crazy.

1678
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 2: Sorry, Emily said, it was sorry, tell us you're great everything.

1679
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,359
It was Shaw. Yeah, they were. They were very I'm

1680
01:12:36,359 --> 01:12:38,840
sure they're great now, but they are very unpleasant of.

1681
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I remember my first uh my training day

1682
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:46,640
at Target was with Jessica. We both got hired on

1683
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:48,680
the same time, and so I remember I met her

1684
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:52,640
like immediately, and then Taylor and Kirkland we like, we

1685
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,920
weren't in the same department, but we had there was

1686
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,159
enough cross over there, so I'd bumping you guys all

1687
01:12:57,159 --> 01:12:59,039
the time. I didn't even know Travis until Target was

1688
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:01,279
well and doing at that point. But I remember there

1689
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:05,479
was a Laser Tag night and I drove Travis home

1690
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,439
because he yes, lived on the way home. That was

1691
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,319
like the first time we ever spoke was me driving

1692
01:13:09,359 --> 01:13:11,640
home from Laser Tag. That's when we hit it off.

1693
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,239
And then uh yeah everyone else. I was pretty close

1694
01:13:14,279 --> 01:13:15,479
to the rest of you at that point, but.

1695
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, Dylan was very nice because I was gonna

1696
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:19,079
bust at home and they asked where I lived and

1697
01:13:19,199 --> 01:13:21,399
brought me there, and then uh yeah, and then I

1698
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:22,199
think after that.

1699
01:13:22,119 --> 01:13:23,640
Speaker 1: I stood out the window for hours.

1700
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 3: You never left.

1701
01:13:25,039 --> 01:13:28,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dylan nicely offered when we worked the same ship

1702
01:13:28,319 --> 01:13:29,479
because he knew we work in the same way, and

1703
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,239
that always saved me time because I was in the

1704
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:33,560
in the area we lived. So yeah, no, that's that's

1705
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:35,640
the origin stories. And I used to always go over again.

1706
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:37,880
But yeah, Dulton, that's how we uh the fact.

1707
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:39,600
Speaker 1: That you can remember that there was a meeting near

1708
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,640
the towel section, Taylor, that's the kind of specific detail

1709
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,560
that you love to see. I would never remember something

1710
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:45,800
like that.

1711
01:13:46,239 --> 01:13:48,359
Speaker 3: I just remember. I remember that, and I remember us

1712
01:13:48,399 --> 01:13:51,960
talking Spider Man three and the Venom and that and

1713
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,600
the scene it might have been the Alleyway scene that

1714
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:55,239
we're talking about.

1715
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:59,159
Speaker 2: I think it was. Yeah. I don't know why, but yeah.

1716
01:13:59,239 --> 01:14:02,319
And even though like I laugh, I'm even surprised Kirkland

1717
01:14:02,399 --> 01:14:05,880
kind of got into this thing because you Kirkland said himself,

1718
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:07,800
like he's mature and changed so much as a podcast,

1719
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,560
he's so much more outgoing and he's more personal. You

1720
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:12,560
can listen those first two years, those first years, he's

1721
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:14,840
in the room, but like, you know, is he in

1722
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:16,640
the room? I don't know, you know, like it's one

1723
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:18,560
of those things like he'll he'll talk when he's poken to,

1724
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:21,239
and he's smitted that freely. But that's why I wonder,

1725
01:14:21,279 --> 01:14:23,720
how do how do we? How did he get roped

1726
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:24,960
into this? Because I think he was the one I

1727
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,079
knew the least when the podcast started, but I liked

1728
01:14:27,159 --> 01:14:29,880
Kirkland said, oh yeah, cool, like that works. There's five

1729
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:31,399
of us. But it was one of these things where

1730
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,840
and he I guess technically right, he's not on the

1731
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:38,399
first episode because he uh, he's remember he is still

1732
01:14:38,399 --> 01:14:41,039
a member. Yeah, and he did leave for a bit,

1733
01:14:41,079 --> 01:14:43,560
but yeah, I know that was and he was constantly late, so.

1734
01:14:45,079 --> 01:14:47,159
Speaker 1: I remember, don't you remember that he was here, he

1735
01:14:47,159 --> 01:14:49,279
wouldn't be getting dragged, but you know, you gotta drag him.

1736
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 2: Oh, I would drag him that first year. He was

1737
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:53,960
late all the time. We were always waiting for him.

1738
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,880
Like everybody's late here or there, but Kirklin was always late,

1739
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,199
and especially like, you know, I get it because he's

1740
01:14:59,199 --> 01:15:00,840
on the West side though, so I should I shouldn't

1741
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,960
bad Mathru much, but yeah, it's true. But anyways, let's

1742
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,720
get back to some of these topics. Today, rumor came

1743
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:08,079
up from like a sea tier and then a C

1744
01:15:08,239 --> 01:15:10,399
plus tier, so it started cooking firing up a little

1745
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:12,760
bit off. See Mario, I saw you asking earlier, so

1746
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:14,560
we're gonna talk about this now. You had a question,

1747
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,760
so we'll answer that. But this week is the Penguin finale,

1748
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,319
so make sure you go and watch that. Today, I

1749
01:15:20,359 --> 01:15:22,399
once again was watching The Batman them like, because I'm

1750
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:24,920
just obsessed with that movie and just score. But it

1751
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:26,439
did make me realize, Man, I need to get some

1752
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:28,840
better blinds where I live because I couldn't see fucking shit.

1753
01:15:29,279 --> 01:15:31,000
I was happy. I've been telling Emily for the whole

1754
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:32,720
time I lived here that we need better blinds to

1755
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,359
Oh it's fine Batman. It's like I can't see pass

1756
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:37,479
and I know he's there because I can hear him grunting,

1757
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:40,479
but I can't see shit. But today there's a rumor

1758
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,399
that the next show, because Matt Reeves confirmed their Domore shows,

1759
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,159
the next show is supposed we get be starring Barry

1760
01:15:46,239 --> 01:15:49,279
Kyogan as the Joker. It is rumored to be taking

1761
01:15:49,319 --> 01:15:53,279
place in between Batman two and three. The rumors scuttle

1762
01:15:53,319 --> 01:15:55,359
budd Is right now that he will have a small

1763
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:58,439
role in Batman two. So I had hope it would

1764
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,119
be bigger than Batman one, but it's probably at least

1765
01:16:01,159 --> 01:16:03,960
that size. And then he's supposed to be the villain

1766
01:16:04,079 --> 01:16:06,119
of Batman three, So Tam, we have to Throwty first

1767
01:16:06,159 --> 01:16:09,319
Offesly Penguin. Like. There's been lots of good buzz on it,

1768
01:16:09,399 --> 01:16:11,560
lots of people saying, it's, you know, top tier, it's

1769
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:14,079
in that top echelon of combook shows. How would you

1770
01:16:14,119 --> 01:16:16,760
feel if Joker was next on the van wagon? Because

1771
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:20,399
obviously big character, great actor, but you know, we just

1772
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,640
had a bomb movie, so I think it's a little

1773
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:26,359
bit different because it's different iterations, but still it's maybe

1774
01:16:26,399 --> 01:16:28,319
not a runaway hit. Maybe are people in two years

1775
01:16:28,359 --> 01:16:30,359
gonna be like, oh fuck, like another Joker thing? Like

1776
01:16:30,399 --> 01:16:33,399
do I need this? But what's your read on this?

1777
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:37,479
If we were to get an eight episode Joker show

1778
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:38,760
out of the Penguin.

1779
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:41,119
Speaker 3: I think that's you just took towards my mouth and

1780
01:16:41,159 --> 01:16:42,760
you said it then and there. I think that's why

1781
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,079
we're getting this news on Joker and give me begetting

1782
01:16:45,079 --> 01:16:49,439
a project because of that movie, fully adia, And I

1783
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:52,560
think that they want to now kind of cast it

1784
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:54,800
into the fire. They want to turn it around, and

1785
01:16:55,119 --> 01:16:59,439
I think they destroy it, destroy exactly. I think they

1786
01:17:00,079 --> 01:17:03,560
really want to just put a new spotlight on on

1787
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:05,399
there right now. And of course you have Penguin that's

1788
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:08,560
just an absolute banger of a show, best one of

1789
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,520
the best shows this year, if not the best show.

1790
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:13,479
So I think that if you have that kind of

1791
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:15,680
team and the momentum, throw that on a Joker and

1792
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,560
then get some get some light ship onto that character

1793
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,159
a little bit more. Because people are not people aren't

1794
01:17:21,159 --> 01:17:23,119
big on the movie get some light shed onto that character.

1795
01:17:23,159 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 2: That's what I heard.

1796
01:17:24,399 --> 01:17:26,319
Speaker 1: Shed Are you saying light shed light?

1797
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, shed on shedd Yeah, I heard heard light Ship.

1798
01:17:32,159 --> 01:17:35,640
Speaker 3: I hope not. I hope not. There's like there's there's

1799
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:37,880
some older people at my work that don't strike me

1800
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:41,319
as like the like the like consistent, like go to movies.

1801
01:17:42,239 --> 01:17:47,960
But yeah, but they I hear. I not that I'm eavesdropping,

1802
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:49,640
but I'm kind of eavesdropping because either.

1803
01:17:50,399 --> 01:17:56,359
Speaker 2: Drop but long ten years.

1804
01:17:58,159 --> 01:18:03,239
Speaker 3: So they're talking about Joker too and that that they're saying, like, oh,

1805
01:18:03,279 --> 01:18:05,000
I just found it was it was a musical. I

1806
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:06,640
was watching. It was like it was a fucking musical.

1807
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:08,520
And so we.

1808
01:18:08,399 --> 01:18:10,399
Speaker 2: Talked about in the discord because I can't remember who

1809
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:13,880
I apologize who brought this up in the discord. I

1810
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:16,960
can't remember if it was calling or somebody it was.

1811
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:18,840
Maybe it was k I know, I think it was

1812
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:20,960
Kyle Goldface because I always want to say gold Face.

1813
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,279
I'm like, who's that, right, Kyle? He brought up that

1814
01:18:23,319 --> 01:18:25,560
he had someone the same thing, like it's a musical,

1815
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:27,359
and like every time this movie comes up in a

1816
01:18:27,399 --> 01:18:30,760
new conversation, it is like yeah, and can you believe

1817
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:32,880
they made a musical. It's like, man, the people really

1818
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:35,600
didn't fucking know there were songs in this thing. It's

1819
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:39,720
it's crazy. Everybody's like, oh my brother, my, you know, sister,

1820
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:41,840
like you said, your workers every time is again, they

1821
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,079
didn't know. It's fucking crawm.

1822
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 3: It's it's nuts. He The interesting thing he says is

1823
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:49,199
that if you were to skip past the musical parts,

1824
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:52,119
it would actually not be that bad of a movie.

1825
01:18:52,159 --> 01:18:54,760
Like he thought the actors did a good job, Like, okay,

1826
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:55,840
well that's one way of putting.

1827
01:18:55,600 --> 01:19:00,239
Speaker 2: It, but if we were just talking acting, I don't

1828
01:19:00,239 --> 01:19:00,920
agree that's okay.

1829
01:19:01,079 --> 01:19:04,199
Speaker 3: I I I at its core, well, I like Lady Gaga,

1830
01:19:04,239 --> 01:19:07,920
and I liked Joaquin Phoenix's acting portrayals of those characters.

1831
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:11,239
I think that, yes, the movie definitely does not have

1832
01:19:11,359 --> 01:19:13,319
enough steam. I mean, look at how fast it was

1833
01:19:13,319 --> 01:19:16,199
announced coming to be dropping on vod right like they

1834
01:19:16,239 --> 01:19:19,000
were just seemingly after it started to bomb, they wander

1835
01:19:19,239 --> 01:19:22,640
just kind of put it into the uh you know,

1836
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,680
into the the the box and kind of lock it

1837
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:27,399
up thrown in the attic. So I feel like this

1838
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:31,079
is absolutely no strange coincidence here. They want to just

1839
01:19:31,159 --> 01:19:35,119
get some attention brought onto this this Joker that they

1840
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:39,119
I mean, it could be like they're kind of their

1841
01:19:39,119 --> 01:19:40,920
saving grace I guess to kind of just save this

1842
01:19:41,039 --> 01:19:44,000
character and just kind of like bring in some more excitement,

1843
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,439
because after after that movie, I don't think you're gonna

1844
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:47,960
have a lot of people thinking like, oh, I'm sick

1845
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:49,159
and tired of Joker. I think you can have a

1846
01:19:49,199 --> 01:19:50,560
lot of people like, man, I'd really love to see

1847
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:52,640
a good Joker, and I know I would. I'd like

1848
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:58,359
to see a Joker that's more in line with my God,

1849
01:19:59,079 --> 01:20:02,159
thank you with Leger show for just that insanity, not

1850
01:20:02,159 --> 01:20:05,680
not the uh Jared Letto one or anything like that.

1851
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:07,119
But it's just kind of is funny when you think

1852
01:20:07,119 --> 01:20:08,880
about we kind of go on this up and down

1853
01:20:09,159 --> 01:20:11,960
trajectory where we got your soul Ledger, and then we

1854
01:20:12,039 --> 01:20:14,319
got we got Jared Leto and then we go up

1855
01:20:14,319 --> 01:20:16,359
with Woking Phoenix, and then we go back down with

1856
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:19,079
Woking Phoenix, and then we go back up with Barry.

1857
01:20:19,199 --> 01:20:21,600
So it's just funny how it's this little roller coaster.

1858
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:24,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna bring that up. It's funny that

1859
01:20:24,159 --> 01:20:28,039
we're in this this like good Joker bad Joker sort

1860
01:20:28,039 --> 01:20:30,560
of scenario where the audience is very happy and then

1861
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:34,600
they're very unhappy. So it's hopeful. Now the trajectory should

1862
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:36,399
be that Barry would go up. And I got all

1863
01:20:36,399 --> 01:20:38,600
the faith in Barry because they got to be one

1864
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:41,159
of the best working actors and Trump.

1865
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1866
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:45,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just trust like Reeves, like with Penguin

1867
01:20:45,159 --> 01:20:48,479
the Batman, like I I can trust at the bare minimum,

1868
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:50,319
this will be a seven out of ten, you know.

1869
01:20:50,399 --> 01:20:51,720
I guess at the same time I would have trusted

1870
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:54,279
Phoenix and Company. But now, at least with with Reeves,

1871
01:20:54,279 --> 01:20:56,079
I got two things right. I got a three hour

1872
01:20:56,159 --> 01:20:59,239
movie and then an eight hour show, So it's like, okay,

1873
01:20:59,279 --> 01:21:00,560
there's a lot of proof in the pudding.

1874
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, I have no notes on this, like this

1875
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,600
is a rumor, not an announcement. It's like that sounds

1876
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:10,159
like a fantastic idea because Penguin come out. I was

1877
01:21:10,159 --> 01:21:12,760
always kind of like, really, Penguin has a character, making

1878
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:14,800
a show on that, and it's been huge, people love it,

1879
01:21:15,199 --> 01:21:18,199
receptions there, numbers are there. It seems like, so, yeah,

1880
01:21:18,279 --> 01:21:21,119
take an even bigger character, and I don't know if

1881
01:21:21,119 --> 01:21:22,960
he's a bigger actor, but at least, I feel like

1882
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,520
you take the prosthetics away, and maybe it's more recognizable

1883
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:28,359
actor when you're just seeing it scrolling through like a

1884
01:21:28,399 --> 01:21:31,159
streaming service or wherever you're watching it. So yeah, I

1885
01:21:31,159 --> 01:21:34,199
think it's a fantastic idea. It makes a lot of sense.

1886
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:37,039
Curious to see how that one will connect with the

1887
01:21:37,079 --> 01:21:38,840
movie because I have to imagine that he's gonna be

1888
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:40,800
a much bigger part of that movie than Penguin was

1889
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,720
a part of the first batmanah So in terms of

1890
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:45,800
like is this gonna be required reading, is this gonna

1891
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:47,560
be something you would watch and then you gotta watch

1892
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,119
the show and then you go into the third movie, Like,

1893
01:21:50,159 --> 01:21:51,840
I'm curious to see how they line that all up,

1894
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,119
because it seems like this is gonna be a more

1895
01:21:54,159 --> 01:21:57,560
influential character than Penguin, who was definitely more of a

1896
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:00,239
a side piece at the time. But yeah, yeah, I

1897
01:22:00,279 --> 01:22:02,279
think this the show is going to do really great.

1898
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:05,600
I'm I don't know if there's like, if we can

1899
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,439
get really specific. Obviously there's like superhero fatigue people talk about,

1900
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:10,399
is there gonna be Joker fatigue at some point? Like

1901
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:12,920
it feels like we've got a lot of different Jokers,

1902
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:15,680
and we still haven't seen how Barry is gonna play

1903
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:18,399
this character, right, We've got like one rinky dink little scene.

1904
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,159
Uh so it's we don't even know yet, Like Tonally,

1905
01:22:21,199 --> 01:22:23,000
I guess we can assume based on what the Batman

1906
01:22:23,079 --> 01:22:24,279
is and how dark the.

1907
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 2: Scene that I'm not sure.

1908
01:22:26,079 --> 01:22:28,680
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, sure you get the deleated scene. It's for

1909
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:31,319
the you know, ten people who have seen have seen that.

1910
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:33,199
But yeah, at least there is maybe a little bit

1911
01:22:33,199 --> 01:22:34,319
more evidence of what he's going to be like. But

1912
01:22:34,319 --> 01:22:35,880
I don't think it's that surprising, right, It's like it

1913
01:22:36,119 --> 01:22:37,920
very much fits in the vibe with the rest of

1914
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,520
the Reeves vibe there, and then the Penguin show, which

1915
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:43,039
I haven't seen yet but I imagine is very similar in

1916
01:22:43,079 --> 01:22:45,159
tone and all that. So yeah, I mean, I think

1917
01:22:45,159 --> 01:22:47,680
this is gonna be a hit for sure, and I

1918
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:51,479
guess it's not something they've really done before, right, like

1919
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:57,439
a Joker TV show.

1920
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 2: But they never called him Poker. It's one of these

1921
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:04,680
things where it's like they dull don't He's always some

1922
01:23:05,039 --> 01:23:08,760
rinky dink like way around it and stuff. But uh yeah,

1923
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,000
like the point Road, it's gonna be interesting because like obviously,

1924
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:13,039
like with you not watching Penguin, the way we describe

1925
01:23:13,079 --> 01:23:16,000
Penguin is how I've always described Winter Soldier and or

1926
01:23:16,039 --> 01:23:19,079
sorry Falcon Winter Soldier, where it's like you can watch

1927
01:23:19,119 --> 01:23:21,439
it and get a better understanding of what Sam is

1928
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:24,000
gonna be like as Captain America. But if you're just

1929
01:23:24,039 --> 01:23:25,960
a GA member, you could just skip it because you

1930
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:27,840
see him get the shield endgame, and then they made

1931
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:29,760
a Captain America. We right, you could just assume, okay,

1932
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:32,399
he was Captain America. That just adds some flavors. So

1933
01:23:32,399 --> 01:23:34,399
the same thing with peng when he's gonna have be

1934
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:36,680
be more powerful in the Batman and this is just

1935
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:39,119
showing that. But if you just were to watch Batman

1936
01:23:39,159 --> 01:23:41,520
and Batman too, you would just assume, like, Okay, a

1937
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:43,920
lot of mobsters die, Batman won, and Penguin rose up.

1938
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:45,560
Like I don't have to know, you don't have to

1939
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,560
watch the show. It's more character stuff, and especially last

1940
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:50,680
episode with them getting into like my I suppose, but

1941
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:53,319
they got like into Penguin when he was a child,

1942
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:56,880
and they added lots of layers to that character. And

1943
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,239
what I've always been fascinated because I don't think Matt

1944
01:23:59,279 --> 01:24:02,680
Reeves does anything on accident. When they had asked him

1945
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:06,720
about Barry and what like makes his Joker different, he like, like,

1946
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:09,960
I'm gonna make it sound like a very just like emo,

1947
01:24:10,319 --> 01:24:13,039
tryhard type and answer. But he's like, well, when ever

1948
01:24:13,079 --> 01:24:15,079
since the Joker has been born, his life's been a

1949
01:24:15,159 --> 01:24:18,600
joke because like he came out disfigured, so everyone's treated

1950
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:20,720
him in a certain way where he kind of had

1951
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:24,479
to find this personality just to get through life because

1952
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:27,920
he was just deemed as like an ugly mon like

1953
01:24:28,039 --> 01:24:31,600
monstrosity person so he was cast out from society and

1954
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:33,439
like I said, go find the quote he said an interview.

1955
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:35,760
But when Matt Reeves said all this, I'm like, Okay,

1956
01:24:36,079 --> 01:24:39,479
he clearly already has the backstory for his Joker. It's

1957
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:41,920
not like, oh, let's uh, we're doing a badfel. Let's

1958
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:43,720
let's just put Joker in there. People like him, you know,

1959
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,720
good Camo. It's like clearly he and even said he's

1960
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:48,359
like who He even told Barry when he got the role.

1961
01:24:48,399 --> 01:24:50,399
He said he sat him down, he said, I want

1962
01:24:50,399 --> 01:24:52,760
you for this role. You may never ever play this

1963
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:56,199
character again, but let's take a shot and see what happens.

1964
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:58,520
But I think the way Reeves speaks, like okay, he

1965
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:00,920
knows what his Joker is, and the way he describes it,

1966
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,800
I'm like, man to get these flashbacks in this show

1967
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:07,800
could be it's against it could be heartbreaking, but it's

1968
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:10,680
tough because you don't That's the thing now with Joker

1969
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:13,199
is you don't want to go that route per se

1970
01:25:13,199 --> 01:25:14,800
because we just kind of got that with Phoenix in

1971
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,079
a sense right where it was the guy cast out

1972
01:25:17,119 --> 01:25:20,720
from society. They showed okay, he became a psychotic person,

1973
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:22,640
but there's a lot of steps that got him there

1974
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:24,800
and he could have got help. That's where and he's

1975
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:26,359
even said it's like how do you make a difference,

1976
01:25:26,359 --> 01:25:28,439
So it's it's tough of like how much you want

1977
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:30,800
to tell. And even with this one, like you said, Dylan,

1978
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:33,840
it's like with Penguin, you can easily avoid Batman with

1979
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:36,720
this they established in that deleted scene. It is deleted,

1980
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,159
but they established that Batman's the one that caught him.

1981
01:25:39,199 --> 01:25:41,960
So I feel like I'm not saying Passon has to

1982
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:44,760
be in the show, but if one required Batman more

1983
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:47,840
than another, I feel like Joker does, like whether even

1984
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:50,920
just to tell that story a little bit, like I

1985
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:54,960
feel like it's it's strange and it's also another thing

1986
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,960
that's strange too. A funny way to think about this is, obviously,

1987
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,720
I guess, let's say all the movies are three hours,

1988
01:26:01,039 --> 01:26:03,000
so we get nine hours of the Batman. But it's

1989
01:26:03,039 --> 01:26:07,079
funny like Penguin already now has more screen time than

1990
01:26:07,199 --> 01:26:09,880
Pattison does and passes Batman, right, But because Penguin is

1991
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:13,479
like not Disney, plus it's HBO like their full hour episodes,

1992
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:17,520
you're getting all his backstory on just the Penguin, you know,

1993
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:19,000
And it's gonna be kind of funny to think. Same

1994
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:21,359
thing with Joker. But I think why I'm the most

1995
01:26:21,399 --> 01:26:23,520
fan of this, like one, okay, yeah, I love Joker,

1996
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:26,119
of course, but like the two reasons One Barry, I

1997
01:26:26,159 --> 01:26:27,880
think I just want to see him sink his teeth

1998
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:30,239
and to know how you got eight episodes. But because

1999
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:33,039
in Batman one he had a scene and in Batman too,

2000
01:26:33,039 --> 01:26:35,319
it sounds like he's gonna be very minor for him

2001
01:26:35,319 --> 01:26:37,560
to be in Batman three, This I think kind of

2002
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:40,479
makes up for that because you're like, oh, like I

2003
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:43,159
think for the GA they'll just do Batman three. Batman

2004
01:26:43,159 --> 01:26:45,840
on a poster Joker or poster sold. I've said this before.

2005
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,600
I know people sometimes that are stic of the Joker.

2006
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:50,600
Batman and Joker have not been to movie since two

2007
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:53,159
thousand and eight. That's how long it's been, Like I know,

2008
01:26:53,279 --> 01:26:55,600
because we've got so many versions, but they've not been

2009
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:58,560
on screen. I'm not counting Justice League because Ben Affleck

2010
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:00,520
and Jared Leto didn't even film again either. That day.

2011
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:02,359
They filmed with doubles and they shot that. They cut

2012
01:27:02,359 --> 01:27:05,720
the scenes together, like for them on screen interacting fighting,

2013
01:27:06,119 --> 01:27:08,800
oh eight, Like we're almost on two decades of them

2014
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:11,399
being in a movie together. It's kind of nuts. So

2015
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:13,560
that's where I think there's lots of room for that,

2016
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:15,239
and the GA will just go, oh, it's Batman and

2017
01:27:15,319 --> 01:27:18,760
Joker perfect. But for me, having a show that builds

2018
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:22,000
up Joker before the finat like the final battle and

2019
01:27:22,039 --> 01:27:24,680
Matt Reeves is such an I'm to be Batman fan boy.

2020
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,399
I love it because the most popular pitch after your holms, like, well,

2021
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:29,800
what I really want them to do is don't touch

2022
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:32,840
Joker until the third one. You know, many posts I

2023
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:34,960
would see when I was in those forums back in

2024
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:36,680
the day of like save Joker for the third one,

2025
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:38,439
and that, like, I just love the rumor. It's like, well,

2026
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:40,079
the main villain of Batman three is going to be

2027
01:27:40,359 --> 01:27:42,560
the Joker. Like, oh, Matt Reeves was in those forms.

2028
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,000
I know it. Man, he he He's just like Opera

2029
01:27:45,079 --> 01:27:47,600
and I love it. He operates like a Batman fan boy,

2030
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,680
Like even watched the movie again. So yeah, I'm all

2031
01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:54,520
excited to answer Mario. He asked, why don't they make

2032
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:57,399
a Batman show instead of spin off to Batman without Batman.

2033
01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:00,680
I think just the easy clearcut answers. Batman is a

2034
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:03,960
billion dollar property, and obviously the bat the Batman didn't

2035
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:05,920
do that, but just overall, so I feel like I

2036
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:09,159
think they and I agree to extent that if Batman,

2037
01:28:09,239 --> 01:28:11,920
if they just a show called the Batman, I think,

2038
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:14,359
now all that money that they make all those movies

2039
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:18,560
kind of maybe disappears, or that amount disappears, right, I think,

2040
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:20,840
And I think that's even the reason worry why he

2041
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:23,119
might not be in Penguin and Joker. They might worry,

2042
01:28:23,159 --> 01:28:26,039
like Batman still has never been on TV live action

2043
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:28,560
really like there's been a little hints of it, but

2044
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:31,479
like in Smallville, they weren't allowed to use him and Titans.

2045
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:35,359
He was very shadowed, like they keep Batman very like

2046
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,800
cloaked away. Even in Gotham, he didn't get the suit

2047
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:40,640
to the very the last Shaw that shows him the

2048
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:43,000
suit and then the show ends, you know, like it's that.

2049
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,159
That's what they do. They they don't want Batman on TV,

2050
01:28:45,279 --> 01:28:47,319
but I think they're just worried that if they put

2051
01:28:47,399 --> 01:28:49,439
him on TV, people won't pay for him, you know.

2052
01:28:50,119 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 1: So interesting not trying to devalue him. Yes, potentially a

2053
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:54,680
little fear there.

2054
01:28:55,159 --> 01:28:59,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see, we got a couple here, uh, and

2055
01:28:59,159 --> 01:29:01,920
now we'll get some carpenter on the soundtrack. I hope not.

2056
01:29:02,079 --> 01:29:03,960
I saw a lot of people being like, oh, they're

2057
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:06,359
gonna cast her as a Harley. Now. I don't think

2058
01:29:06,399 --> 01:29:08,479
we need to go that route. Let's let's I think

2059
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:10,680
Harley and him can stay apart for a while and

2060
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:14,039
we'll see, right. Yeah, they called him Jerome on Gotham.

2061
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:17,000
And then there was Jeremiah, his twin brother, who also

2062
01:29:17,039 --> 01:29:20,399
became a joker type of character. Sam says, Barry puts

2063
01:29:20,399 --> 01:29:22,880
on one hundred and ten percent and everything he does.

2064
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:26,119
I just can't see his version being anything other than amazing.

2065
01:29:26,359 --> 01:29:30,199
I agree there, and especially I feel pre salt Burn,

2066
01:29:30,399 --> 01:29:32,640
this show maybe has a little less juice. But after

2067
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:34,720
salt Burn, and I'm sure some other things will come out.

2068
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:36,640
I feel like just even, like you said, Dylan, like

2069
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:39,640
even he looks a bit more like Barry, Like, I

2070
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:42,279
feel like people will be more excited because oh it's Barry,

2071
01:29:42,319 --> 01:29:45,720
and I think he's starting to build up that that

2072
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:50,159
profile being a star and everything. So yeah, no, I'm excited.

2073
01:29:50,159 --> 01:29:52,279
I hope this happens. I can't wait. I want Selena

2074
01:29:52,319 --> 01:29:53,800
because I didn't know if Joker was on the table.

2075
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:55,960
And this kind of tracks to at one point Reeves

2076
01:29:56,079 --> 01:29:58,319
was working on like an Arkham Asylum show, just like

2077
01:29:58,399 --> 01:30:00,960
the Ray and the Star Wars trilogy. I get see

2078
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:03,399
you kind of folding those two together of like, hey,

2079
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:05,640
what I was doing with Arkham stuff, let's put that

2080
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:07,920
in the Joker Show. And they did, Like that's a

2081
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:09,960
highlight of that show is there's one episode Doling where

2082
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:12,760
they do go to Arkham and it's it's mighty fine.

2083
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:15,600
It's a very scary place. So but yeah, we'll see

2084
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:19,800
what happens there. So all right, I'm gonna round off

2085
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:22,560
all these movies and shows, and you guys can decide

2086
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:24,640
what talk about. You might need to proll up the

2087
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details on the stream and if you forget any but

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here you go, all right. Movies and TV shows that

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are in the worker have been announced Mass Effect Amazon

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show which has come out today. Agent Venom is supposedly

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in the works at Sony. That's with Flash Thompson. He

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01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:43,800
becomes a military guy. He goes to war, loses his legs,

2093
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:46,760
gets the symbiote, and the symbiote like gives them his

2094
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:48,880
legs back and he becomes like an ass kicker. But

2095
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:52,159
he stays in the suit too long. He's he's stuck

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01:30:52,199 --> 01:30:57,319
that way. There's three live action, three live action lego

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01:30:57,399 --> 01:31:00,960
movies in the works over there. Patty Jenks is doing

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one of them, so I can give you the full

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rundown after Ridley Scott revealed that he's producing a new

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alien film. Disney is making a live action Prince Charming

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01:31:11,159 --> 01:31:14,840
movie with Chris Hemsworth and supposedly dead Daisy Edgar Jones

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01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:17,600
that was rumored today. And there's a Game of Thrones

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01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:20,840
movie in the works. There's an Outlast movie, and God's

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01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:24,279
All Minus one is getting a sequel Taylor, You don't

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01:31:24,279 --> 01:31:25,600
gotta tell about all those, but what do you think

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01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:28,319
about any of these? A lot of stuff getting announced

2107
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:29,960
last week and this week.

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01:31:30,319 --> 01:31:33,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of stuff. The Lego movies. I

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01:31:33,199 --> 01:31:35,920
really did think that that Lego Ninjago movie was gonna

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01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:38,119
be the last one that we got. I think people

2111
01:31:38,199 --> 01:31:40,199
kind of forget that we had that one, especially after

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01:31:40,239 --> 01:31:42,800
the success of the Lego movie Lego Batman and the

2113
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:45,640
Lego Movie two. I've seen the trailer for that par

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01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:49,279
Williams Lego project. That looks like a lot of fun.

2115
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:53,079
It's a really neat take. Is this included? Is that

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included in the three movies?

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Speaker 2: No, this is three other ones. And remember though those

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01:31:56,239 --> 01:31:59,720
are animated, these are live action Lego movies.

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Speaker 3: The other one, well, the first Lego movies kind of

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live action, right, because yah, will Farell.

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Speaker 2: I guess like I wouldn't put that as like I wouldn't.

2122
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:14,760
It's tough because it does have live action stuff. I

2123
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:16,760
wouldn't CLASSFIY as like a live action movie. But you're

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01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:17,199
not wrong.

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01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:20,000
Speaker 3: So I would love it if we got I mean,

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01:32:20,039 --> 01:32:24,720
it wouldn't happen but throw some bionicles in there, of course. Yeah,

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01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:26,960
So I'm very much looking forward to that. I'm very excited.

2128
01:32:27,159 --> 01:32:31,079
Age and Venom color me interested. I am very excited

2129
01:32:31,119 --> 01:32:32,800
to see what we got going on there. I think

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01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:36,760
that's a lot of fun mass Effect TV show. I've

2131
01:32:37,239 --> 01:32:39,680
never been one to actually play the mass Effect games.

2132
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:41,439
It's always been on my list, but I've never played them.

2133
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:44,159
I remember my friends were always excited for them in

2134
01:32:44,239 --> 01:32:46,000
high school, but I was always just at the time

2135
01:32:46,039 --> 01:32:49,079
playing Halo. That was kind of my my spacey age

2136
01:32:49,119 --> 01:32:52,119
game at the time. But I think doing a TV

2137
01:32:52,159 --> 01:32:54,079
show is great because well, I don't know a lot

2138
01:32:54,119 --> 01:32:56,640
about the story. Doing a show kind of like just

2139
01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:59,600
the Fallout situation would help me kind of get familiar

2140
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:02,600
with that universe, understand what's going on. So I think

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01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:05,239
that's awesome. Maybe Amazon should take Assassin's Creed wile they're

2142
01:33:05,239 --> 01:33:07,319
at it, because Netflix is doing fuck all with that.

2143
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:11,039
Speaker 2: That's quiet on that front. I was like thirty years ago. Now, yeah, very.

2144
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:16,279
Speaker 3: Quiet Ridley Scott producing an Alien movie. I am interested,

2145
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:20,680
very interested, just because of the success that we've gotten

2146
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:25,600
with Alien and Preda right now, and again, I'm excited

2147
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:28,760
to read more of those Avengers Versus Alien comics because

2148
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:31,000
I shared you share with you an interesting little thing

2149
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from that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's this spicy stuff go on. I'm excited. I

2151
01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:38,439
beture those next year when Predator comes out, we'll read those.

2152
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:44,199
Speaker 3: Yeah. Prince Charming, I mean, Chris Hemsworth, you are, I mean,

2153
01:33:44,239 --> 01:33:46,479
he can do anything, he's a he's a great guy.

2154
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:48,119
Speaker 2: I think that's a good idea, though, like a lot

2155
01:33:48,239 --> 01:33:50,399
do you think that'sss If they sit you down, Taylor

2156
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:53,720
and Disney's budgeting, they're you know, not Marvel Stars. Disney

2157
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:56,239
is looking at their live action moves anime moves for

2158
01:33:56,279 --> 01:33:57,680
the year, and they say, okay, tape, we want to

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01:33:57,680 --> 01:33:59,039
make a live action Prince Charming.

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Speaker 3: They don't need to do this.

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01:34:00,239 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 2: Okay, That's what I was curious. I don't even know

2162
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:04,800
if I agree, because like I haven't really too much

2163
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:07,720
thought too. I just thought like, hmm, like that's a

2164
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:11,600
that's an aw one. Also because like Hempsworth, oven Thor

2165
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:15,439
doesn't like have big movies, So it's not like I

2166
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:18,079
don't know, I'd understand if it was like Timothy charleomet

2167
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:20,680
or like even running gloss and come up a Barbie,

2168
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:22,600
But it's not like Hempsworth is like, man, this makes

2169
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this an automatic hit.

2170
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Speaker 3: You know, yeah, it's it's not an automatic hit. To me,

2171
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:30,279
it just feels like it's in the same category as

2172
01:34:30,319 --> 01:34:34,000
Snow White and The Huntsman, Winter's War, whatever it is.

2173
01:34:34,199 --> 01:34:35,800
Speaker 2: What about this there? How do you even make a

2174
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:38,479
Lego live action movie? Feels like a linking situation.

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Speaker 1: You make a Minecraft live action movie.

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01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:46,039
Speaker 2: M Oh yeah, I guess you're not wrong. I guess

2177
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:49,239
it's just kind of sonic esque where there's a lot

2178
01:34:49,239 --> 01:34:52,359
of live action actors, but there's a lot of CGI

2179
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:57,680
around and yeah, three of them.

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Speaker 3: Game of Thrones movie. I'm always down for more Game

2181
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:03,520
of Thrones. I am still riding that high of House

2182
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:07,239
the Dragon Season two, Fantastic Show, Fantastic Outlast.

2183
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:08,079
Speaker 1: Uh.

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01:35:08,319 --> 01:35:10,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to get back in there. We've got

2185
01:35:10,079 --> 01:35:12,079
to go back to the Asylum, all of us four

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01:35:12,279 --> 01:35:15,439
together and just indulge because I I that world is

2187
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:18,560
just so terrifying and actually get a movie centric or

2188
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:22,000
centered around that is very, very freaky to think about.

2189
01:35:22,039 --> 01:35:25,720
I'd love to be in a theater just experiencing that. Yeah,

2190
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:26,800
just terrifying, just.

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01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:28,560
Speaker 2: To talk about on side quest because yeah, it's the

2192
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:30,520
same thing I've been jones and for that, because I

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01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:33,079
was during Halloween. I think we're just all busy, and

2194
01:35:33,119 --> 01:35:35,399
then with this announcement, I'd like to do a couple

2195
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:37,119
more Asylum runs here soon.

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Speaker 3: So absolutely, Uh, Godzilla minus one sequel, Yeah, this is

2197
01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:48,880
interesting and I'm curious what that story will entail. I

2198
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:50,720
really really don't know at this point, just with how

2199
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that first movie ended, But the idea that this guy

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01:35:56,560 --> 01:36:00,840
will get another shot at a another gods movie and

2201
01:36:01,079 --> 01:36:04,520
have an even bigger budget is exstatic. Like it makes

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01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:06,960
me super super stoked because there was that little budget

2203
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:09,319
that first one had, and how he was able to

2204
01:36:09,319 --> 01:36:11,399
just capture the scale and the depth and just the

2205
01:36:12,359 --> 01:36:15,800
fear and the terror from Godzilla in that movie was great.

2206
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:18,640
So I'm I'm all there, and I'm so happy to

2207
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:22,560
see him kind of take on like another Godzilla project.

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Because we don't know if it is a sequel. I'm

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01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:27,279
one hundred percent assuming it is a sequel. I don't

2210
01:36:27,319 --> 01:36:29,840
think it's anything else. Maybe it maybe would be a

2211
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:32,000
follow up to win guards Godzilla movie, but I don't

2212
01:36:32,039 --> 01:36:33,840
think that they're doing him dirty like that.

2213
01:36:34,079 --> 01:36:38,680
Speaker 2: So Taylor doesn't remember this, but I remember telling him like, oh,

2214
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:40,399
I'm sure with the success of this one was a

2215
01:36:40,399 --> 01:36:42,359
big success to make a sequence. Oh no, no, they

2216
01:36:42,399 --> 01:36:45,640
wouldn't make a direct sequel. I think so, I'm pretty sure,

2217
01:36:45,640 --> 01:36:47,039
and I feel like they were going to do that here,

2218
01:36:47,079 --> 01:36:49,359
and Taylor was really liking my pitches of where the

2219
01:36:49,399 --> 01:36:52,560
story was going to go. But you gotta it's the

2220
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:54,680
first movie was about nuclear war. I think you got

2221
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:57,359
to cover the aftermath of nuclear war like it's a

2222
01:36:57,439 --> 01:36:59,239
very because then you never saw my s one, right,

2223
01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:03,079
yeah did. It's like it's a god Zel movie, but

2224
01:37:03,199 --> 01:37:08,039
like it's a it's a war movie, and there's multiple

2225
01:37:08,039 --> 01:37:10,239
stretches where God's like the plot has nothing to do

2226
01:37:10,239 --> 01:37:13,199
about Godzilla and it's just about like PTSD and it's

2227
01:37:13,239 --> 01:37:16,279
like it's a very well done, like more dramatic movie.

2228
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:19,119
Since I just feel like they're gonna go that route

2229
01:37:19,159 --> 01:37:22,520
of talking about the aftermath of a nuclear war and

2230
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:24,960
what it can cause and somebody plus you know that lady.

2231
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:27,039
I'm telling you, they're gonna they're gonna do something with

2232
01:37:27,079 --> 01:37:30,119
that lady. She was shining. So they didn't do that.

2233
01:37:30,199 --> 01:37:33,119
They I just feel like nowadays you don't put like

2234
01:37:33,159 --> 01:37:35,159
a little end credit, or your movie doesn't end in

2235
01:37:35,159 --> 01:37:37,039
a way where it's like open book and like we're

2236
01:37:37,039 --> 01:37:39,800
gonna leave it there. You know, most people do something,

2237
01:37:39,880 --> 01:37:43,079
so what about you doing? And he's flowing your boats?

2238
01:37:43,399 --> 01:37:45,000
Three live action lego movies.

2239
01:37:47,079 --> 01:37:48,680
Speaker 1: I'll skip past that one. I don't know if I've

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01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:52,079
much to see what those trailers look like when they

2241
01:37:52,119 --> 01:37:55,000
come to be. I'll be very predictable here and talk

2242
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:58,640
about the two video game ones. Uh Outlast. Yeah, if

2243
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:00,680
you've listened to side Quest this year, and you know,

2244
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:03,279
I've played through that entire trilogy this year, so I'm

2245
01:38:03,359 --> 01:38:05,880
very prepped and ready for that, And yeah, I think

2246
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:08,359
there's a lot of potential there. I really am curious

2247
01:38:08,359 --> 01:38:11,720
to see what they do with the found footage element

2248
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:14,920
of it, or like even just the first person element

2249
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:17,880
of it with the camera. And you know, a big

2250
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:20,800
part of those games is about the darkness and like

2251
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:22,880
conserving your batteries, and so I don't know, I'd be

2252
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:25,600
curious to see how they translate some mechanics like that.

2253
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:27,920
They very well could just avoid all that stuff and

2254
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:30,680
just make it a generic horror movie in in a

2255
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:33,640
sane asylum, but even that is set for some fun

2256
01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:35,720
stuff and there's some crazy things that happen, like in

2257
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:37,760
the end of that game too. So curious to see

2258
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:39,159
if they go all the way there or if they

2259
01:38:39,199 --> 01:38:42,399
just kind of make it a more simplified thing. And

2260
01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:44,479
then I also be curious to see how they implement

2261
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:48,439
a story element to that, because a lot of the

2262
01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:51,159
lore or intrigue of that game comes or like the

2263
01:38:51,159 --> 01:38:53,279
first one in particular, it comes from like walking around

2264
01:38:53,279 --> 01:38:56,439
the asylum, seeing a note on the ground, reading the note,

2265
01:38:56,479 --> 01:38:58,000
and that's kind of how you get most of the

2266
01:38:58,039 --> 01:38:59,840
story given to you. Other than that, it's just like

2267
01:39:00,119 --> 01:39:02,560
maybe a set piece moment where there's a villain guy

2268
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:06,079
yelling at you, but it's it's pretty constrained until like

2269
01:39:06,119 --> 01:39:09,079
I would say, the very end, so like and they

2270
01:39:09,119 --> 01:39:11,159
could even switch it up and have like multiple characters

2271
01:39:11,199 --> 01:39:12,960
rather than just like one guy going to this place.

2272
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:15,840
But I'm really curious to see what that looks like

2273
01:39:16,359 --> 01:39:18,479
and curious who they get is like writer, director, all

2274
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:20,439
that kind of stuff. But I'm excited for that one.

2275
01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:24,079
I think that's cool, And then for mass effects. So

2276
01:39:24,159 --> 01:39:26,399
this is a big blind spot for me gaming wise,

2277
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:29,600
And you know, I've had the time, I've had the

2278
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:31,960
bend with it's on game pass. It's there. It's just

2279
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:35,279
never really appealed to me the mass Effect games, and

2280
01:39:35,319 --> 01:39:37,239
so this is honestly perfect for me. It's the same

2281
01:39:37,239 --> 01:39:39,159
way that Last of Us. I've tried to start that

2282
01:39:39,199 --> 01:39:41,479
game one hundred times and I just hate the gameplay.

2283
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:44,079
Like not that I think I would hate massive gameplay,

2284
01:39:44,079 --> 01:39:46,239
but it's like I want to get more into that world,

2285
01:39:46,319 --> 01:39:48,039
get to know those characters better, but I don't think

2286
01:39:48,079 --> 01:39:50,159
I want to put the time and effort it takes

2287
01:39:50,159 --> 01:39:52,920
to play through that game. And so I'm cool this.

2288
01:39:53,039 --> 01:39:54,479
This is great for me. This seems like a great

2289
01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:57,159
way to get that story across from me. So I'm

2290
01:39:57,159 --> 01:39:59,119
into it. And I think Amazon is a good pick

2291
01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:02,319
based on on the things they're doing right now. I

2292
01:40:02,399 --> 01:40:05,079
think they're they're a good a good one to go with. Obviously,

2293
01:40:05,319 --> 01:40:08,319
Followout was a great example of how to do a

2294
01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:12,359
video game TV show, and I think that's another good example.

2295
01:40:12,399 --> 01:40:14,640
They're like, we're talking about follow Out. Of course that

2296
01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:19,319
wasn't adapting an individual game. There's a lot of references

2297
01:40:19,359 --> 01:40:22,680
to characters or factions, but there isn't specific characters or

2298
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:25,560
game storylines that they're overdoing there. But I think through

2299
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:27,560
that show, because they it was a TV show and

2300
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:29,359
that had a lot of time they could kind of

2301
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:32,439
throw like multiple types of characters and throw characters on

2302
01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:34,640
the other side of the spectrum from like a true

2303
01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:37,760
good character to a true evil character and characters kind

2304
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:39,399
of in between on the spectrums. And I feel like

2305
01:40:39,399 --> 01:40:41,880
with mass effect, that's such a big part of those

2306
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:44,199
games is like the decisions and I forget it's like

2307
01:40:44,199 --> 01:40:46,439
Renegade and I forget the other side, but there's like

2308
01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:48,800
are you making the good or the bad choices? And like,

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01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:50,560
ultimately a show like this, if they are adapting the

2310
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:53,159
story one to one, they're gonna have to pick a side,

2311
01:40:53,159 --> 01:40:55,680
and they're probably gonna pick the good side. But maybe

2312
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:57,399
they can kind of explore that rather than just having

2313
01:40:57,399 --> 01:40:59,800
like one Shepherd, maybe they can implement a couple other

2314
01:41:00,039 --> 01:41:02,840
characters in there on different sides. Maybe the companions can

2315
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:07,079
do that too, with more like evil side evil coded

2316
01:41:07,079 --> 01:41:10,520
decisions versus the good guy sorted decisions. But I'm excited

2317
01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:11,920
to see what they do there, and if it is

2318
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:14,680
something that goes multiple seasons and they get into the

2319
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:17,760
sequel games, I mean, I'm pretty sure the games, and

2320
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:20,600
of course I haven't played them, but I'm pretty sure

2321
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:23,439
the games, like the sequels just straight up make some

2322
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:25,319
of the endings canon and like you just have to

2323
01:41:25,319 --> 01:41:27,199
deal with it even if you pick the other options.

2324
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:29,319
So I'm sure that they would do that here and

2325
01:41:29,359 --> 01:41:31,199
just pick, like, what is the best story that we

2326
01:41:31,239 --> 01:41:32,600
want to tell, We're just gonna go with that, rather

2327
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:35,319
than doing some weird like multiple choice thing. Obviously that

2328
01:41:35,399 --> 01:41:37,279
format doesn't work as well unless you do like Band

2329
01:41:37,319 --> 01:41:39,960
or Snatch on Netflix, which was, you know, not the

2330
01:41:40,079 --> 01:41:43,079
norm by any means. But yeah, I think that's a really,

2331
01:41:43,159 --> 01:41:45,680
really great pairing. You know, Amazon has the budget to

2332
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:48,840
make a big sci fi thing like that happened too,

2333
01:41:49,319 --> 01:41:51,159
so I think that that's a really great parent. I'm

2334
01:41:51,159 --> 01:41:53,439
pretty excited for that. And you run a good Paragon

2335
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:56,159
that was the other side Paragon leaks make for them.

2336
01:41:56,319 --> 01:41:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you answered Mike question because he asked, do you

2337
01:41:58,039 --> 01:42:00,640
guys think massfect show would directly adapt the games or

2338
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:02,680
go the Fallout route and.

2339
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:05,560
Speaker 1: Create I think that one would more adapt the story

2340
01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:08,039
of the game of the games rather than do the

2341
01:42:08,079 --> 01:42:10,079
Fallout thing. I think that makes a bit more sense

2342
01:42:10,159 --> 01:42:14,000
for Fallout is a narrative game, but I also feel

2343
01:42:14,039 --> 01:42:16,039
like it is such a free form, open game and

2344
01:42:16,079 --> 01:42:18,479
you kind of make your own story. Whereas Mass Effect, yes,

2345
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:20,800
you have decisions and stuff, but like it is a

2346
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:24,000
more linear story and it is more of a narrative

2347
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:27,119
focused thing. So I think you go that round. Like

2348
01:42:27,159 --> 01:42:30,840
the character the player freedom is probably less so than

2349
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:32,479
like a Fallout, where you can go any sort of

2350
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:35,479
way in terms of like your character be really dumb

2351
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:37,760
or really smart, or use different types of weapons even

2352
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:40,319
and be a hacker, that kind of thing. I feel like,

2353
01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:42,840
from what I understand, Mass Effects a little bit, a

2354
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:45,039
little bit more narrowed, a little more focused on the

2355
01:42:45,079 --> 01:42:45,720
scope of things.

2356
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:49,640
Speaker 2: Right now, two things. One you said because you've never

2357
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:51,319
booted a Mass Effect, right you.

2358
01:42:51,399 --> 01:42:54,520
Speaker 1: Just never booted Okay, We've been booted on a console

2359
01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:56,039
that I've holding a controller for.

2360
01:42:56,199 --> 01:42:58,000
Speaker 2: Okay, because at least the last of us unders saying

2361
01:42:58,000 --> 01:42:59,399
you said you booted up and then not for you,

2362
01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:01,560
so you went away. But I'm just saying, maybe let's

2363
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:04,159
circle back, because this is I've been wanting to replay them,

2364
01:43:04,159 --> 01:43:06,239
because I've played one and two, never played three because

2365
01:43:06,239 --> 01:43:08,239
I heard controversial things and just didn't have the bandwidth

2366
01:43:08,279 --> 01:43:11,479
that time. But I bought the what was on some deal,

2367
01:43:11,720 --> 01:43:14,640
the whatever they did that collector the Legendary edition. Yeah,

2368
01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:16,239
I bought it because, like, I would like to have

2369
01:43:16,279 --> 01:43:17,920
these games because I had them on Xbox, but I

2370
01:43:18,039 --> 01:43:20,239
like now transfers from a PS four and PS five,

2371
01:43:20,399 --> 01:43:22,960
So maybe tentively put that schedule be down.

2372
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:27,600
Speaker 1: At least do a retro about seventeen hours, about twenty hours.

2373
01:43:27,880 --> 01:43:29,279
That's not so bad for RPG.

2374
01:43:30,039 --> 01:43:31,800
Speaker 2: Oh, I guess, but that's side.

2375
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:34,239
Speaker 1: Quests and stuff. He adds the time, I'm sure.

2376
01:43:34,039 --> 01:43:35,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's what I was gonna say, because that,

2377
01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:39,199
for me, is the closest a game has ever captured

2378
01:43:39,239 --> 01:43:42,600
the like spirit of Nights Old Republic, like as far

2379
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:44,640
as your decisions, and Mike is right where it's like,

2380
01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:47,199
that's the one where it's like they do cross like

2381
01:43:47,239 --> 01:43:49,720
a lot of your choices do crossover, which is great

2382
01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:51,119
when I boot up to you had this, this and

2383
01:43:51,119 --> 01:43:52,359
this is like, oh, I feel like I'm playing the

2384
01:43:52,399 --> 01:43:54,760
same character. But yeah, the more important point points are

2385
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:56,800
not choice based, and yeah, that's exactly it, right, And

2386
01:43:56,800 --> 01:44:00,880
that's where I think they'll because you'd easily look at

2387
01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:03,319
this and go, oh, well, fall out. They already did

2388
01:44:03,319 --> 01:44:05,319
that the whole student News storyline set in the world.

2389
01:44:05,359 --> 01:44:07,880
Why don't they do it? Again, I think, you know,

2390
01:44:08,039 --> 01:44:11,000
fall does have some you know, iconic games and characters,

2391
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:12,800
but I don't think they have any one character that's

2392
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:16,479
iconic is like Commander Shepherd, right, And the other thing

2393
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:19,279
that's tough though, is Commander Shepherd means something different to

2394
01:44:19,359 --> 01:44:23,760
everybody because they chose their story right, They've made their mission.

2395
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:26,600
So your Commander Shepherd might be different than mine, but

2396
01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:30,359
it's still a character. It's still legendary person. So I

2397
01:44:30,359 --> 01:44:33,359
think I'm fifty one forty nine on them doing the

2398
01:44:33,359 --> 01:44:35,720
Shepherd thing. I think just I think they will. There's

2399
01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:37,840
other classic characters they can and I think they'll just

2400
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:42,840
pick the storylines that suit best for going multiple seasons,

2401
01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:45,640
you know, and it'll be interesting. I trust Amazon. I

2402
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:47,399
think it's a good thing to have because Fallow I

2403
01:44:47,399 --> 01:44:50,079
think worked out for them. I think again, Mass Effect

2404
01:44:50,119 --> 01:44:52,560
as a TV show works better than a movie. I

2405
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:54,720
think Amazon has a budget and like Amazon doesn't have

2406
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:56,560
like they got Lord of the Rings with their medieval show,

2407
01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:59,720
they got Fallout, which is our apocalyptic show. I don't

2408
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:02,720
think they like a big mainstream space show, you know,

2409
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:05,960
so they're kind of ticking their box off and Mass

2410
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:08,880
Effect does that. So Taya before I go, do you think,

2411
01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:10,600
what do you think they're gonna do that? Are they going?

2412
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:13,520
Mike was asking do you think they follow the storyline

2413
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:16,279
or do they followed it where they go, you know,

2414
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:19,840
do their own storyline, but it's set in the world

2415
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:21,600
of Commander Shepherd and all that stuff.

2416
01:45:22,079 --> 01:45:25,520
Speaker 3: I think you do the Fallout era era theme, I

2417
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:29,439
should say. I think that if you are doing something

2418
01:45:29,479 --> 01:45:32,640
that's an original story, I think that's great because you

2419
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:36,560
do have those pre existing foundations that exist with the games,

2420
01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:40,239
and like you guys said, you have your own version

2421
01:45:40,279 --> 01:45:43,199
of Commander Shepherd based on your decisions in that game.

2422
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:46,159
So I think that if you were to base the

2423
01:45:46,199 --> 01:45:49,119
game heavily off of him, that might not be super

2424
01:45:49,159 --> 01:45:51,840
well received because everyone has different engagements. So if you

2425
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:54,880
haven't just appear here and there as a cameo character

2426
01:45:55,119 --> 01:45:57,680
just interacting with the main character of this show, then

2427
01:45:57,680 --> 01:46:01,119
I think that's a really really good idea. There's there's

2428
01:46:01,119 --> 01:46:04,479
gotta be a lot of different stories they can tackle.

2429
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:06,079
I mean, the only story I know of is that

2430
01:46:06,119 --> 01:46:09,960
there's this ancient alien race in there that's trying to

2431
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:12,000
wipe out humanity or something like that.

2432
01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:16,439
Speaker 1: That's all another classic. Yeah, that's yeah, yeah, good trop Yeah, Travis.

2433
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:19,279
If they do, if they do follow the games like

2434
01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:22,039
one to one, we'll say, for example, you think they

2435
01:46:22,079 --> 01:46:24,279
go h man or woman for the for the for

2436
01:46:24,359 --> 01:46:27,079
Commander Shepherd, because that's always a big decision for people.

2437
01:46:28,199 --> 01:46:31,560
Speaker 2: Man, just because like he for which one?

2438
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:33,319
Speaker 1: Because I feel like a lot of people prefer the

2439
01:46:33,399 --> 01:46:35,800
female voice performance in that game, and so a lot

2440
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:37,760
of people say that's like their favorite route.

2441
01:46:38,159 --> 01:46:40,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just feel like who's always in the box

2442
01:46:40,199 --> 01:46:42,720
art though you know it is the male version of

2443
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:45,359
Commander Shepherd. It's always the guy with like the hair

2444
01:46:45,399 --> 01:46:47,680
of mine where he's like a little more he's a

2445
01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:51,079
little more based off or No, that's just is that

2446
01:46:51,239 --> 01:46:54,159
not just of the the new Mass Effect game, like

2447
01:46:54,159 --> 01:46:55,000
the one that didn't.

2448
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:57,319
Speaker 1: Perform new one has like a helmet on but you're right,

2449
01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:00,199
that has a helmet. It looks like, yeah, do on

2450
01:47:00,239 --> 01:47:01,439
the front of the first one?

2451
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:02,680
Speaker 2: Could you be.

2452
01:47:04,359 --> 01:47:04,600
Speaker 1: Of them?

2453
01:47:05,039 --> 01:47:05,159
Speaker 2: Then?

2454
01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:08,880
Speaker 3: Yeah? I thought she was on the third one as

2455
01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:09,319
a cover?

2456
01:47:10,720 --> 01:47:12,600
Speaker 2: No, that's the new game. Remember they made that one

2457
01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:14,279
Mass Fact game that didn't go good and had a

2458
01:47:14,319 --> 01:47:16,279
lot of launch problems everything. I wonder if that's what

2459
01:47:16,279 --> 01:47:18,920
you guys are talking about it's like Mass Effect Androma

2460
01:47:19,039 --> 01:47:19,319
or something.

2461
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:19,840
Speaker 3: Three.

2462
01:47:19,880 --> 01:47:22,000
Speaker 1: I'm seeing that there's a version for each, but I

2463
01:47:22,039 --> 01:47:23,600
don't see that for the first two games.

2464
01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:25,680
Speaker 2: Okay, Mike, you may be able to tell us, because

2465
01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:29,159
I feel like you have some Mass Effect fandom going on,

2466
01:47:29,479 --> 01:47:31,800
and that's true, Mike said. The writer does not the

2467
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:34,039
writer they hired does not soon have a lot of credits,

2468
01:47:34,279 --> 01:47:37,239
which I saw. It's like Fast nine and then said,

2469
01:47:37,319 --> 01:47:38,760
yeah the okay, no, there you go. You got a

2470
01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:41,119
female on there. And then Espo says the Expanse was

2471
01:47:41,359 --> 01:47:44,119
supposed to get the base game. I'm not sure if

2472
01:47:44,119 --> 01:47:46,920
they ever released that, but yeah, and yeah they had

2473
01:47:46,920 --> 01:47:49,840
the Expense, but the Expanse didn't go. Yeah, I remember

2474
01:47:50,199 --> 01:47:52,039
the Expanse. I don't think hit like what I'm trying

2475
01:47:52,079 --> 01:47:53,800
to say, like, I think massfac could hit like the

2476
01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:56,439
Fallout sort of levels and everything. And also we've forgot

2477
01:47:56,479 --> 01:47:57,680
to that Expense.

2478
01:47:57,479 --> 01:48:00,600
Speaker 1: Game is out now, Okay, you're apparently.

2479
01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:03,319
Speaker 2: And then, as Supermke said, the third had both you

2480
01:48:03,359 --> 01:48:06,199
could turn it inside out. There you go a the classic,

2481
01:48:06,239 --> 01:48:08,760
the reversible gotta go fim SHIPPERD. And the other reason

2482
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:10,560
I just don't think they will is because with fall Out.

2483
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:12,960
They have the female it's an ensemble, they have female lead.

2484
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:15,880
I just I'm trash told you it's gonna be the

2485
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:16,960
male a Kabander Shepherd.

2486
01:48:17,039 --> 01:48:18,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think for a lot of people

2487
01:48:18,279 --> 01:48:21,439
with the game, it's not like the I forget her name,

2488
01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:23,840
but whoever, like she does, her performance is a lot

2489
01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:25,880
better from what I've said. But obviously with the show,

2490
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:29,159
they're gonna cast someone well.

2491
01:48:29,199 --> 01:48:31,279
Speaker 2: And like they're in this business like the end of

2492
01:48:31,279 --> 01:48:33,039
the business. But I mean, like even we didn't cover

2493
01:48:33,079 --> 01:48:34,359
but a couple of weeks ago they got a new

2494
01:48:34,359 --> 01:48:37,119
showrunner for the God of War show. So Amazon's crack

2495
01:48:37,239 --> 01:48:39,800
like they're making some big moves on these big franchises here.

2496
01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:42,319
So I'm I'm excited for all.

2497
01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:44,920
Speaker 1: The huge success. So it makes sense now.

2498
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:46,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I'm happy it was because then we

2499
01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:48,159
get more stuff like that. So I'm excited by that.

2500
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:52,079
Subs is right about that. You know what's his name? Uh?

2501
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:56,399
Really Scott did produce another like he produced Romolas. I

2502
01:48:56,439 --> 01:48:59,560
hope it's like that. And because I don't, I don't

2503
01:48:59,560 --> 01:49:02,199
want to say his time's done because I even you know,

2504
01:49:02,319 --> 01:49:05,920
re rewatched Covenant for the retro and I even like

2505
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:07,239
that more than I did the first one, which is

2506
01:49:07,239 --> 01:49:09,079
the first time I give like a failing grade. But

2507
01:49:09,119 --> 01:49:11,640
I just feel like it's I think what they had

2508
01:49:11,680 --> 01:49:14,319
with Ramless was a good situation. And I also don't

2509
01:49:14,319 --> 01:49:17,079
want them we double this last week with Predator to Oversaturated,

2510
01:49:17,119 --> 01:49:19,600
So like I feel like Romless, the sequel to Romless,

2511
01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:21,479
like let's just keep it of that for now, Like,

2512
01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:23,840
let's not go too heavy. I know people love the IP,

2513
01:49:24,279 --> 01:49:26,479
and I know Disney and that brand want to get

2514
01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:29,560
all that stuff out there, but like, if if it's

2515
01:49:29,640 --> 01:49:35,239
an additional one to to fede, if it's an additional

2516
01:49:35,279 --> 01:49:38,439
one and it's like him directing or something, that's where

2517
01:49:38,479 --> 01:49:41,439
I go. I think, really, Scott's good to move on

2518
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:44,640
from here, you know, enjoy the enjoy the gladiator or

2519
01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:46,720
success he's about to have. So you got that going on.

2520
01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:49,319
I already said Prince Charming not a good idea, But

2521
01:49:49,359 --> 01:49:51,960
for some reason, I think it could be more of

2522
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:54,079
an enjoyable movie because I think they're gonna play Prince

2523
01:49:54,119 --> 01:49:57,199
CHARMI as like a lovable idiot, and Hempsworth is great

2524
01:49:57,239 --> 01:49:58,800
at that, right, Like he does that type of bit

2525
01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:02,159
all the time. So it's strange like Daisy Editor Jones

2526
01:50:02,199 --> 01:50:04,600
is circling this. I thought there'd be a different trajectory,

2527
01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:06,560
but you know, this is probably getting some good money

2528
01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:10,039
out there. So Agent Venom, that's funny, that's rumored. Me

2529
01:50:10,079 --> 01:50:11,800
and Taylor talked about that last week of like what

2530
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:14,039
they could do next, and I brought up Agent Venom

2531
01:50:14,039 --> 01:50:17,479
because I just feel like that's you can use Venom,

2532
01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:19,439
but it's like a new story and I guess that

2533
01:50:19,479 --> 01:50:22,079
could be your new hero. So and the Venom still

2534
01:50:22,159 --> 01:50:23,840
some cache and aim, like it didn't have as bad

2535
01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:25,880
as a drop as Joker did. So luckily for them,

2536
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:28,640
they probably look at they go okay, like you know,

2537
01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:31,119
trajectory is going down, but maybe there's some juice in here.

2538
01:50:32,680 --> 01:50:35,079
Lego live action movies just start at one and go

2539
01:50:35,159 --> 01:50:38,920
from there. Dumb dumb idea God's always spoke about. And

2540
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:41,680
then yet out last I'm excited and pissed because I

2541
01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:44,159
remember when we were on the playing the game back

2542
01:50:44,159 --> 01:50:46,039
in the day, I was like, oh man, I bet

2543
01:50:46,079 --> 01:50:48,399
they won't make this into movie. Like I was just

2544
01:50:48,439 --> 01:50:52,520
like had on the long bucket list of like long

2545
01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:54,239
term goals, like oh, I'd love to go and just

2546
01:50:54,279 --> 01:50:56,319
pitch this cause I just feel like it's like it's

2547
01:50:56,359 --> 01:50:59,960
like even Until Dawn to me, is like a small

2548
01:51:00,399 --> 01:51:02,720
sony ip. So I was like, I don't know if

2549
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:05,039
everyone's gonna touch out Last, and I even when we

2550
01:51:05,039 --> 01:51:07,840
play Trials, I'm like, you could make a very very

2551
01:51:07,880 --> 01:51:11,319
good because the world is small but still vast, whether

2552
01:51:11,359 --> 01:51:13,319
it is Trials, whether it's the first one, and I've

2553
01:51:13,359 --> 01:51:15,479
never played the second one, but there's so much to do,

2554
01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:18,760
and with that asylum, I just feel like you can

2555
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:20,560
keep that to a cheap budget and I feel like

2556
01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:22,800
you can make up easy profit with that movie if

2557
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:25,079
you make it just decent. And I feel we were

2558
01:51:25,119 --> 01:51:27,680
talking about that, it's like what Dylan was bringing up.

2559
01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:30,119
I hope with the at least if they adapt the

2560
01:51:30,159 --> 01:51:32,239
first game. And I'm pretty sure the guy that wrote

2561
01:51:32,359 --> 01:51:35,479
the games is writing the movie or he's one of

2562
01:51:35,479 --> 01:51:38,079
the writers, so that's cool. I would love them to

2563
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:40,920
still incorporate the camera some ways. I think they got

2564
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:43,560
to find new plot points. Maybe those notes and stuff

2565
01:51:43,560 --> 01:51:46,079
you pick up, maybe you film flashbacks for those, or

2566
01:51:46,119 --> 01:51:49,920
there's radio recordings instead of notes of exposition. But I

2567
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:53,479
think Outlast, what is a franchise that a bunch of

2568
01:51:53,479 --> 01:51:55,159
people aren't going to know those video games, but if

2569
01:51:55,159 --> 01:51:57,640
done right, it could be. It could be one of

2570
01:51:57,640 --> 01:52:01,560
those franchises that has like three to five sequels in

2571
01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:04,000
the future, because I think there's so much there and

2572
01:52:04,039 --> 01:52:07,279
I love that world. So I hope it works and

2573
01:52:07,319 --> 01:52:10,720
we get to see Missus Gooseberry on screen and stuff,

2574
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:13,399
and I think it's right for the taking. So but

2575
01:52:13,479 --> 01:52:15,560
I also think it's a movie they could do. Uh

2576
01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:19,000
it does terrible, Like everyone just thinks it's a shitty

2577
01:52:19,039 --> 01:52:21,119
horror movie. You's just like a basic bitch horror movie

2578
01:52:21,119 --> 01:52:23,159
that they just made it try and check cash grab

2579
01:52:23,399 --> 01:52:25,239
and then you never see it again. So I hope

2580
01:52:25,239 --> 01:52:28,439
they take some love and care into this, and uh yeah,

2581
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:31,520
we'll see what happened. So we'll take your last Adik,

2582
01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:33,000
we'll talk about a few trailers, and then we'll be

2583
01:52:33,239 --> 01:52:37,119
right back and we're back. So we just had a

2584
01:52:37,119 --> 01:52:39,840
few trailers here and then the one mini topic in

2585
01:52:39,880 --> 01:52:42,079
the middle of it. Uh So, you got Skeleton Crew,

2586
01:52:42,159 --> 01:52:44,239
that's the star show coming out of December. You got Presence,

2587
01:52:44,279 --> 01:52:46,640
which is a haunted house movie, but it's from the

2588
01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:49,119
perspective of the ghosts this time, so it's kind of

2589
01:52:49,119 --> 01:52:52,640
like that in a violent nature. Yeah, that's what it is.

2590
01:52:53,039 --> 01:52:55,039
You got the Squid Game season two trailer. But I

2591
01:52:55,119 --> 01:52:57,319
also want to ask because at the end of last

2592
01:52:57,319 --> 01:52:59,840
week they announced that they are Green Let and they're

2593
01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:03,279
doing the American remake with David Vncher, who directed The

2594
01:53:03,399 --> 01:53:08,039
Killer last year offic seven the Sure TV show. I think,

2595
01:53:08,039 --> 01:53:10,079
as of right now, it's what it sounds like. And

2596
01:53:10,119 --> 01:53:13,239
then also Hard Eyes, which once I watched I regret

2597
01:53:13,239 --> 01:53:15,079
putting in there because there really wasn't much to it,

2598
01:53:15,159 --> 01:53:17,640
but I put it in there because I was like, oh.

2599
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:20,119
Speaker 1: This, My question is why should I care about this?

2600
01:53:20,840 --> 01:53:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had like as good producer as good, I'm like, okay,

2601
01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:24,920
and then when I saw him like, oh, it's like

2602
01:53:25,119 --> 01:53:27,000
only a minute over. Then I'll watch my like okay,

2603
01:53:27,039 --> 01:53:30,239
that was some Sometimes tras missus on the trailers and

2604
01:53:30,239 --> 01:53:32,720
I'll omit. The Hard Eyes was missed, but uh, I

2605
01:53:32,720 --> 01:53:34,520
hope I like it when it comes out. I'm always

2606
01:53:34,560 --> 01:53:36,279
down for us. I liked that killed they had in

2607
01:53:36,319 --> 01:53:38,680
the trailer too, of the couple getting on and he

2608
01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:41,640
makes some kiss by stabbing the night through. I'm like, Okay,

2609
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:43,600
if the whole movie is like that, there could be

2610
01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:44,199
some fun there.

2611
01:53:44,239 --> 01:53:48,199
Speaker 1: You know, but m hmm, I'll jump in here. Yeah, presence.

2612
01:53:48,359 --> 01:53:51,199
I didn't even like catch what the fis of it was,

2613
01:53:51,239 --> 01:53:53,560
I guess, but when I was watching, I'm like, man,

2614
01:53:53,600 --> 01:53:56,680
this camera work is really interesting. Like I feel like

2615
01:53:56,720 --> 01:53:59,399
even just the whatever lens they had on the camera,

2616
01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:02,520
it just books kind of weird and off. And then

2617
01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:04,600
they're like the angles that they're doing is like it's

2618
01:54:04,600 --> 01:54:06,239
always a little bit too high or a little bit

2619
01:54:06,279 --> 01:54:08,239
too low. It's just like a little bit off. So

2620
01:54:08,239 --> 01:54:09,920
I feel like they're kind of getting off this like

2621
01:54:10,239 --> 01:54:13,760
slightly unsettling vibe with the camera work alone. So I

2622
01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:17,119
really like that, like the cinematography of it, but in

2623
01:54:17,159 --> 01:54:19,560
terms of character or story, there was not much in

2624
01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:21,439
the trailer that really grabbed on me. But now that

2625
01:54:21,600 --> 01:54:24,199
I know that premise, I'm really into it. So that's cool.

2626
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:28,079
Skeleton Crew. Nothing to add on that one. That's that's

2627
01:54:28,199 --> 01:54:31,560
not of all the Star Wars uh Disney shows that

2628
01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:34,880
I've skipped, that would be bottom of my list the

2629
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:36,439
ones I want to watch. And you know what, it's

2630
01:54:36,479 --> 01:54:39,560
not the audience for that, not me. It's like for kids,

2631
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:41,000
I think, right, So you know, go ahead.

2632
01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:41,279
Speaker 2: Cool.

2633
01:54:42,039 --> 01:54:45,000
Speaker 1: And then Squid Game season two.

2634
01:54:46,600 --> 01:54:46,960
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2635
01:54:47,039 --> 01:54:48,279
Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about this one. I

2636
01:54:48,319 --> 01:54:54,319
feel like it's like maybe that show was like lighting

2637
01:54:54,319 --> 01:54:57,760
in a bottle for like one season, and when I

2638
01:54:57,760 --> 01:54:59,520
was watching the trailer for this, it just felt like, Okay,

2639
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:01,520
we a lot of retreading the same ground, a lot

2640
01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:05,239
of revisiting what we've done before, and I just don't

2641
01:55:05,279 --> 01:55:07,000
feel like I'm gonna enjoy it as much as I

2642
01:55:07,039 --> 01:55:09,479
did that first one. We'll see maybe there's a fun

2643
01:55:09,600 --> 01:55:11,439
twist on it, but in terms of the story of

2644
01:55:11,479 --> 01:55:14,000
like we're back in the game and the one guy's

2645
01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:16,039
back and he did it before, but then like no

2646
01:55:16,039 --> 01:55:18,439
one's listening to him because why would they because they

2647
01:55:18,439 --> 01:55:20,359
want the money too. It's like, okay, so we're just

2648
01:55:20,439 --> 01:55:22,119
doing the exact same thing game, which is like I know,

2649
01:55:22,159 --> 01:55:23,479
I'm sure a lot of people.

2650
01:55:23,239 --> 01:55:23,800
Speaker 3: Just want that.

2651
01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:25,640
Speaker 1: But then you can have like the same games, so

2652
01:55:25,640 --> 01:55:28,479
it's not even like new games. It's like, ah, I

2653
01:55:28,479 --> 01:55:28,760
don't know.

2654
01:55:28,760 --> 01:55:31,319
Speaker 2: I hope that changes. I hope they're showing us the

2655
01:55:31,319 --> 01:55:31,640
same thing.

2656
01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:34,039
Speaker 1: There's not some new ones, right, but that's like from

2657
01:55:34,039 --> 01:55:36,439
what I've seen, I don't know, it looks like a

2658
01:55:36,439 --> 01:55:38,399
lot of retreading the same ground and I just don't

2659
01:55:38,439 --> 01:55:41,640
see where the compelling thing to that is other than

2660
01:55:41,680 --> 01:55:43,960
like they're just doing a cash grab on it, which

2661
01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:45,119
seems like it's possible.

2662
01:55:45,159 --> 01:55:46,880
Speaker 2: Unfortunately. Yeah, I just feel like that has to be

2663
01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:49,279
a cliffhanger right where the whole pitch is. He knows

2664
01:55:49,319 --> 01:55:52,039
the games, he's played them, and one episode has in

2665
01:55:52,119 --> 01:55:54,279
the cliffhanger where it room opens, he's like, I haven't

2666
01:55:54,279 --> 01:55:56,039
played this game before, and that's like, you know, cut

2667
01:55:56,079 --> 01:55:58,079
the play like because I feel like that's like, oh shit,

2668
01:55:58,119 --> 01:56:00,600
because that his life is back in dang injury, right,

2669
01:56:00,640 --> 01:56:04,600
because what is the the fun of It's just the exacts,

2670
01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:06,960
Like I think I understand the pitchs are going for.

2671
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:09,359
But yeah, it is interesting.

2672
01:56:09,399 --> 01:56:11,520
Speaker 1: I mean, even given all my reservations there, I'm still

2673
01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:14,199
gonna watch it for sure, So uh looking forward to that.

2674
01:56:14,479 --> 01:56:18,239
And then yeah, the remake, I'm I'm once again it's like, Okay,

2675
01:56:18,279 --> 01:56:21,399
we're retritting the same ground, doing this again. Curious to see.

2676
01:56:21,479 --> 01:56:24,399
I mean, a great director pick for that director. Writer

2677
01:56:24,800 --> 01:56:25,319
is he doing?

2678
01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:28,760
Speaker 2: I assume I think he isn't normally.

2679
01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:29,760
Speaker 1: Right the movies that he's directed.

2680
01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:30,439
Speaker 3: I don't actually know.

2681
01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:33,479
Speaker 2: I don't think he I think there's that times. We actually, no,

2682
01:56:33,560 --> 01:56:35,479
I think he's usually down just to do a lot

2683
01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:37,479
of direct up phulp his credits. But actually I was

2684
01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:38,760
gonna say that, but no, I don't think it's like

2685
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:40,640
a Tarantino type there where he has to have.

2686
01:56:41,119 --> 01:56:41,840
Speaker 3: Hands on it all.

2687
01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:43,680
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see who they who they would get

2688
01:56:43,680 --> 01:56:46,359
then as a writer for that, but I think director's

2689
01:56:46,439 --> 01:56:49,000
that's a really great pick. And yeah, I'm really curious

2690
01:56:49,000 --> 01:56:51,079
to see what they do for cast because obviously, coming

2691
01:56:51,079 --> 01:56:53,239
into that Spoody Game season one, a lot of us,

2692
01:56:53,279 --> 01:56:55,079
specially here in North America, we don't know any of

2693
01:56:55,079 --> 01:56:57,319
these people, and that to me added a lot where

2694
01:56:57,319 --> 01:56:59,720
there was some really stand up performances in there, and

2695
01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:02,159
that was really fun and different. And so they could

2696
01:57:02,159 --> 01:57:03,920
go multiple directions here where they could try and go

2697
01:57:03,960 --> 01:57:06,720
for young up and comers no names so to speak,

2698
01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:08,760
or they could go for like bigger star people, because

2699
01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:12,600
that is a huge ip now even though but then

2700
01:57:12,640 --> 01:57:14,880
like you know, mister Beast is doing his ship too,

2701
01:57:14,880 --> 01:57:18,159
and it's like it's just a huge deal now. So yeah,

2702
01:57:18,279 --> 01:57:20,239
I don't know, I'm really I'm really curious to see

2703
01:57:21,159 --> 01:57:23,960
what goes on with that, But I I assume i'd

2704
01:57:23,960 --> 01:57:25,520
watch that too, Like, I guess I'm all in on

2705
01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:28,359
the squid game train, even if I'm have my reservations

2706
01:57:28,399 --> 01:57:30,960
about just kind of retreading the same ground over and

2707
01:57:31,000 --> 01:57:31,359
over again.

2708
01:57:31,680 --> 01:57:33,600
Speaker 2: Maybe if you get a bad season two and then

2709
01:57:33,640 --> 01:57:35,600
a bad American season, that's when you might be Yeah,

2710
01:57:35,600 --> 01:57:39,840
because they have said that the original show that's going,

2711
01:57:39,880 --> 01:57:42,159
the Korean show that's going only three seasons, they shot

2712
01:57:42,159 --> 01:57:45,640
them back to back, and then that's.

2713
01:57:44,760 --> 01:57:47,520
Speaker 1: Throw a third third one in there even But yeah, yeah,

2714
01:57:47,680 --> 01:57:49,840
I'm curious. I hope that they kind of switch up

2715
01:57:49,880 --> 01:57:51,880
a bit, right, Like, I hope we don't get just

2716
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:55,680
these same without spoiling what happens like near the end

2717
01:57:55,680 --> 01:57:57,439
of that show, and you figure out more about what's

2718
01:57:57,439 --> 01:57:59,720
going on, you know, behind the games and stuff behind

2719
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:02,119
the cam, like, I hope some of that stuff is

2720
01:58:02,159 --> 01:58:05,800
different and not just like a one one remake of

2721
01:58:05,800 --> 01:58:08,479
what we had before. H And you know, I'm sure

2722
01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:10,319
a lot of like hopefully a lot of the games

2723
01:58:10,359 --> 01:58:12,359
are different too. And it's not like I'm sure you

2724
01:58:12,359 --> 01:58:14,439
want to throw a couple in there the classics, but

2725
01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:17,520
hopefully we get to see some other fun, creative, freaky,

2726
01:58:17,560 --> 01:58:20,239
weird saw trap level weird stuff in there as well,

2727
01:58:20,279 --> 01:58:22,039
and hopefully they come up with some fresh new ones

2728
01:58:22,319 --> 01:58:23,479
with that remake as well.

2729
01:58:24,640 --> 01:58:27,159
Speaker 2: He has a CIDOPHI I feel embarrassing for not knowing this,

2730
01:58:27,279 --> 01:58:30,560
but other than a couple of short films in two thousands,

2731
01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:33,479
he has not written a single thing. He's just a

2732
01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:35,880
director and producer. So he's a he's a shooter, and

2733
01:58:35,920 --> 01:58:38,439
obviously he has like yeah, which is interesting because he

2734
01:58:38,520 --> 01:58:41,000
has like a distinct style, but lots of those people

2735
01:58:41,039 --> 01:58:44,199
that have that styles like writer, director, like yeah.

2736
01:58:44,239 --> 01:58:46,680
Speaker 1: Even thinking back to The Killer last year, like man,

2737
01:58:47,119 --> 01:58:50,359
it must be working so closely together obviously to make

2738
01:58:50,640 --> 01:58:53,119
that movie happen, but I feel like such a cohesive vision.

2739
01:58:53,159 --> 01:58:55,239
You just know what that movie smells like, one that's

2740
01:58:55,239 --> 01:58:56,680
written and directed by the same person.

2741
01:58:56,720 --> 01:58:58,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. It's just he's just that good. So yeah,

2742
01:58:58,880 --> 01:59:01,319
And it's interesting too because I rewatched again this year.

2743
01:59:01,319 --> 01:59:03,600
But he did a movie back in the nineties called

2744
01:59:03,600 --> 01:59:06,439
The Game. It's with Sean Penn and Michael Douglas, and

2745
01:59:06,479 --> 01:59:10,119
it's similar game. No, not exactly, but it is a

2746
01:59:10,199 --> 01:59:14,680
similar guys putting a lot of interesting situations. But they're

2747
01:59:14,680 --> 01:59:16,600
all in the real world. They're not in a room

2748
01:59:16,680 --> 01:59:18,359
like the game is or a building, but they're in

2749
01:59:18,399 --> 01:59:21,199
the real world and they're all this guy signs up

2750
01:59:21,199 --> 01:59:23,479
for an experience and it's a little more than he

2751
01:59:23,600 --> 01:59:26,439
could handle. So and it's it. And that's the opposite

2752
01:59:26,439 --> 01:59:28,359
where it's a guy that has money and has everything

2753
01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:30,520
and he's just looking for some jolly. So it is

2754
01:59:30,600 --> 01:59:33,119
kind of funny that's a reverse of that. And so

2755
01:59:33,159 --> 01:59:35,920
for the trailer, I don't know if I wanted to

2756
01:59:35,960 --> 01:59:38,159
know the pitch now because I kept being like, okay,

2757
01:59:38,159 --> 01:59:40,159
why is this guy going back? Right? Like what can

2758
01:59:40,199 --> 01:59:43,119
this character do? I do find there's like some merit

2759
01:59:43,159 --> 01:59:45,359
and like, okay, this is a good hero story of

2760
01:59:46,079 --> 01:59:48,000
maybe there's more too, But is he in there literally

2761
01:59:48,039 --> 01:59:50,279
just to try and save people? Like that's you know,

2762
01:59:50,319 --> 01:59:52,079
because he does tell seeing the trailer like hey, if

2763
01:59:52,079 --> 01:59:54,479
you keep doing this, you're all gonna die. Obviously there's

2764
01:59:54,479 --> 01:59:56,000
gonna be some of the themes the first one, but

2765
01:59:56,000 --> 01:59:58,760
I'm just wondering what the whole plot is. But that

2766
01:59:58,800 --> 02:00:00,520
did get me in. It reminds me of lot of

2767
02:00:00,760 --> 02:00:04,199
you know, it ends up be some falsehood. But Amanda

2768
02:00:04,359 --> 02:00:06,880
and saw too, and she's the survivor of the trap.

2769
02:00:06,640 --> 02:00:06,920
Speaker 3: And you have.

2770
02:00:07,239 --> 02:00:10,439
Speaker 2: I always liked that aspect of the I've done this before.

2771
02:00:10,800 --> 02:00:13,000
Listen to me. And but like I said, I do

2772
02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:14,840
think there has to be some curve balls thrown in there.

2773
02:00:14,840 --> 02:00:17,399
But yeah, I'm excited to see where they go, I think,

2774
02:00:17,640 --> 02:00:20,000
and I was interested as well. They may it seem

2775
02:00:20,079 --> 02:00:22,880
like the Games or the hosts or whatever were caught

2776
02:00:22,880 --> 02:00:25,079
off guard by this guy was back in. I thought

2777
02:00:25,119 --> 02:00:27,000
they would know. But the fact that in this trayl

2778
02:00:27,000 --> 02:00:28,239
at least the way the edit it made seem like

2779
02:00:28,239 --> 02:00:32,600
they're surprises back in. What does that mean? So they

2780
02:00:32,600 --> 02:00:34,640
do got my curiosity. I agree with you about the

2781
02:00:34,680 --> 02:00:36,680
games and everything, but as far as him being back there,

2782
02:00:36,680 --> 02:00:40,760
like the innovation the American one, I don't know. I

2783
02:00:40,760 --> 02:00:43,199
feel like it's like I kind of want them just

2784
02:00:43,199 --> 02:00:46,319
to take the concept and do a completely different story.

2785
02:00:46,399 --> 02:00:48,880
You know, I don't need the exact beats. I don't need,

2786
02:00:48,960 --> 02:00:52,119
like you know, certain revelations like you were talking about

2787
02:00:52,119 --> 02:00:54,520
with certain characters in there. I would love it like

2788
02:00:54,560 --> 02:00:56,199
you can hit on some of the beats. But again

2789
02:00:56,399 --> 02:00:59,000
back to how he directed the game. He did the

2790
02:00:59,000 --> 02:01:01,520
Girl the Dragon to the American version, and it's not

2791
02:01:01,560 --> 02:01:03,560
a one to one adaption, but it's pretty much just

2792
02:01:04,119 --> 02:01:06,079
here's a remake of the Danish film with some a

2793
02:01:06,119 --> 02:01:08,640
few things change, right, So it might just be that.

2794
02:01:08,760 --> 02:01:11,520
And it's also good for Fincher because like it's kind

2795
02:01:11,520 --> 02:01:13,399
of a layup project where you just know people are

2796
02:01:13,439 --> 02:01:16,119
gonna watch it, and with the whole when they did

2797
02:01:16,119 --> 02:01:19,640
the whole strikes and everything like that, there's new things on.

2798
02:01:19,760 --> 02:01:21,800
You get certain bonuses if you get watched by this

2799
02:01:21,880 --> 02:01:24,039
and you' to like I think it's kind of like

2800
02:01:24,039 --> 02:01:26,640
any I feel like, even if it's bad, people are

2801
02:01:26,640 --> 02:01:27,960
going to tune in just to see it. And then

2802
02:01:27,960 --> 02:01:32,279
maybe you know, progressive seasons after, you know, seasons that

2803
02:01:32,600 --> 02:01:36,439
predis that won't have the same comeback. But I feel

2804
02:01:36,520 --> 02:01:38,920
that season one for the American Show has people, and

2805
02:01:39,000 --> 02:01:41,079
especially because there's some people that won't want to listen

2806
02:01:41,079 --> 02:01:43,800
to the dubs or read the subtitles, like oh yeah,

2807
02:01:43,880 --> 02:01:46,239
finally I can watch I can watch a squid game

2808
02:01:46,279 --> 02:01:48,960
and not have to worry about it. But uh uh yeah,

2809
02:01:49,079 --> 02:01:53,640
what else was there? Hard Eyes? I talk about Skeleton Crew?

2810
02:01:53,720 --> 02:01:58,239
Was that No Presence? Yeah, I'm I'm on the camp

2811
02:01:58,359 --> 02:02:00,840
of I liked In a Violent Nature. That was the

2812
02:02:00,840 --> 02:02:03,479
movie where it falled, like what if you follow Jason Vorhees.

2813
02:02:03,960 --> 02:02:07,520
I get why people wouldn't like it. I get people's complaints.

2814
02:02:07,760 --> 02:02:09,439
I think the movie does really fall a part in

2815
02:02:09,439 --> 02:02:12,760
that third act. But I really enjoyed that idea of Okay,

2816
02:02:12,840 --> 02:02:15,359
let's watch this lumbering around and it's like I had

2817
02:02:15,399 --> 02:02:17,640
my expectations set and that's what I got, and I

2818
02:02:17,680 --> 02:02:19,600
saw my expectations here where I feel like it's going

2819
02:02:19,680 --> 02:02:22,760
to be a very very slow movie. You're gonna have

2820
02:02:22,880 --> 02:02:24,359
to take your time with it, and only is the

2821
02:02:24,399 --> 02:02:27,760
one you're gonna watch when you're tired. But I'm interested.

2822
02:02:27,960 --> 02:02:30,560
I like seeing Lucy low in like a more serious role.

2823
02:02:30,600 --> 02:02:33,720
That's always good. So I'm very curious what they're gonna

2824
02:02:33,720 --> 02:02:35,439
do as far as even if it's a haunting, like

2825
02:02:36,039 --> 02:02:39,119
when this thing, does it possess someone? And if it does,

2826
02:02:39,159 --> 02:02:42,079
does that possession turned to like the first person view

2827
02:02:42,199 --> 02:02:44,960
of the person that possesses I don't know. I'm I'm

2828
02:02:45,039 --> 02:02:47,680
very and like same thing. Lots of these horror movies,

2829
02:02:47,800 --> 02:02:51,600
usually not usually I'll say fifty percent of them, the

2830
02:02:51,640 --> 02:02:53,760
ghost is there, but the ghost is there because of

2831
02:02:54,840 --> 02:02:57,479
something bad happening, right, not because they choose to be

2832
02:02:57,560 --> 02:02:59,119
there and they want to haunt you. Lots of these

2833
02:02:59,119 --> 02:03:01,079
ghost stories are like, oh, well, this really happened this

2834
02:03:01,199 --> 02:03:03,640
guy and you know, he was possessed and he kills

2835
02:03:03,640 --> 02:03:06,800
his family. Like I think that's what I'm interested is

2836
02:03:06,920 --> 02:03:09,319
taking this what we would appear on the outside of

2837
02:03:09,359 --> 02:03:12,399
like a ghost or whatever, some demonic thing and it

2838
02:03:12,520 --> 02:03:14,680
being scary. But if you make it from the point

2839
02:03:14,680 --> 02:03:16,720
of view from the ghost, I actually think you could

2840
02:03:16,720 --> 02:03:19,079
make it like a tragic story and that idea that

2841
02:03:19,119 --> 02:03:22,199
you've been locked up here forever. There's a there's a

2842
02:03:22,199 --> 02:03:23,680
good movie that I don't think it hits on all

2843
02:03:23,760 --> 02:03:26,359
the beats, but it's just called Ghost and it's with

2844
02:03:26,640 --> 02:03:31,520
Rooney Mara and God, what is Ben Affleck's brother name

2845
02:03:31,920 --> 02:03:35,680
Casey Affleck? Where he he dies and he just haunts

2846
02:03:35,760 --> 02:03:38,279
the house but he can't really interact. So he's just

2847
02:03:38,319 --> 02:03:40,560
stuck in this house for like decades and decades and

2848
02:03:40,600 --> 02:03:43,359
he sees his like his wife gets a new boyfriend

2849
02:03:43,479 --> 02:03:45,159
and she gets pregnant by him, and then he moves

2850
02:03:45,199 --> 02:03:47,359
out and it's a new family, another family. Like it's

2851
02:03:47,439 --> 02:03:49,479
just like an idea of, Okay, what would happen if

2852
02:03:49,520 --> 02:03:51,920
you were stuck here? So I think there's something interesting

2853
02:03:51,960 --> 02:03:55,840
of like if you could make the ghost like not scary,

2854
02:03:56,000 --> 02:03:58,319
like trying to like you're trying, they're trying to get freed.

2855
02:03:58,439 --> 02:04:00,600
So I'm very excited by this one. I don't think

2856
02:04:00,640 --> 02:04:02,680
i'd see in the theater because I definitely think this

2857
02:04:02,720 --> 02:04:04,319
could be one that could be like, fuck, that was

2858
02:04:04,319 --> 02:04:06,760
a tough watch and not fun. So I think this

2859
02:04:06,840 --> 02:04:09,239
is definitely a home one for me. And then finally

2860
02:04:09,279 --> 02:04:13,359
Skeleton Crew super disappointed by because I was digging the

2861
02:04:13,399 --> 02:04:16,319
trailers they'd show before. But what I hated about this

2862
02:04:16,520 --> 02:04:18,960
is it felt very much like they're tray made Guardians

2863
02:04:19,000 --> 02:04:20,880
and Galaxy, and that, to me is not what I

2864
02:04:20,920 --> 02:04:23,159
want Star Wars to be. I like Guardian's Galaxy being

2865
02:04:23,239 --> 02:04:25,560
hey there's a little Star Wars in here, but we

2866
02:04:25,640 --> 02:04:27,680
got a big spin on it. I don't want Star

2867
02:04:27,720 --> 02:04:30,159
Wars doing that, even though like some people might think

2868
02:04:30,199 --> 02:04:33,199
it's cute, I don't like them musing a song from

2869
02:04:33,279 --> 02:04:36,199
our general like our music, but then like having it

2870
02:04:36,279 --> 02:04:38,760
sung in like Star Wars lyrics, like it's like some

2871
02:04:38,960 --> 02:04:41,159
alien language, but it's a song. I came what the

2872
02:04:41,159 --> 02:04:43,960
song was, but it's a song that is a pop

2873
02:04:44,039 --> 02:04:47,119
called a pop hit song. So for me, I don't

2874
02:04:47,159 --> 02:04:49,039
like that. I didn't like what they didn't accolte. So

2875
02:04:49,079 --> 02:04:52,079
for me, this trailer actually unsold me. I'll watch it

2876
02:04:52,079 --> 02:04:55,399
because I think the girls hopefully will enjoy this. I

2877
02:04:55,399 --> 02:04:57,079
think they could be fun. There's some of these kid

2878
02:04:57,119 --> 02:05:00,159
actors looking charismatic, and Jude lovelessly has some fun. But

2879
02:05:00,199 --> 02:05:05,439
for me, there was something more I don't know, innocent

2880
02:05:05,479 --> 02:05:09,560
about that first full trailer. There was something where it

2881
02:05:09,720 --> 02:05:11,640
just felt like what people compare it to, like an

2882
02:05:11,640 --> 02:05:13,560
e T. And I liked that vibe where this was

2883
02:05:13,600 --> 02:05:16,399
more like the swashbuck like oh man, we're new it now,

2884
02:05:16,479 --> 02:05:18,399
and then it's like big effects and explosion and a

2885
02:05:18,399 --> 02:05:21,359
pop song. It's like like not saying it's gonna be

2886
02:05:21,359 --> 02:05:23,640
borer Lands, but it felt like that would say, Okay,

2887
02:05:23,680 --> 02:05:25,399
I get what you're going for. You guys are worried

2888
02:05:25,399 --> 02:05:27,560
no one's gonna watch the show. So I'm hoping the

2889
02:05:27,640 --> 02:05:30,840
trailer trailer one it's more of the show, and this

2890
02:05:31,000 --> 02:05:32,680
was just a bad trailer. The show's more like this,

2891
02:05:32,720 --> 02:05:36,439
I'll be less sold, but yeah, there you goes like

2892
02:05:36,439 --> 02:05:38,840
that's the best way to describe Ghost Story. The movie

2893
02:05:38,960 --> 02:05:41,079
with a ten minute pie eating scene. Yeah, that's what

2894
02:05:41,079 --> 02:05:43,359
happens when you're ghost. It's a tough watch, but I

2895
02:05:43,680 --> 02:05:46,600
enjoy it. But Taylor nis off your thoughts on these trailers?

2896
02:05:47,439 --> 02:05:51,680
Speaker 3: Oh, yes, uh, which want to start with? I'll go

2897
02:05:51,720 --> 02:05:54,720
with Presidence. Presidence, I remember us talking about this, and

2898
02:05:54,760 --> 02:05:57,880
I'm really looking forward to it. Just the fact that, yeah,

2899
02:05:57,880 --> 02:06:02,760
it's the perspective of this entity and just how much

2900
02:06:02,760 --> 02:06:05,159
fun you can have with that, Like it almost feels

2901
02:06:05,159 --> 02:06:07,680
like you're a stalker, I guess, which you pretty much

2902
02:06:07,680 --> 02:06:10,279
are as you're this entity, because just you're experiencing things

2903
02:06:10,319 --> 02:06:14,640
through the spirit's eyes and so whether this thing has

2904
02:06:14,720 --> 02:06:17,279
possession going on in this movie or whatnot, or just

2905
02:06:17,319 --> 02:06:19,720
you have multiple families moveing, like you guys already talked about,

2906
02:06:19,760 --> 02:06:24,199
there's a lot of interesting outcomes that they can really

2907
02:06:24,199 --> 02:06:26,399
tackle with this, and so I'm looking forward to it

2908
02:06:26,520 --> 02:06:28,520
because I don't think I've seen anything like this. It

2909
02:06:28,600 --> 02:06:31,159
just reminds me of something like a hardcore Henry. I

2910
02:06:31,239 --> 02:06:34,239
get very different tone and very different atmosphere.

2911
02:06:34,279 --> 02:06:36,960
Speaker 2: And from Surpristy, I'm surprised you haven't checked out a

2912
02:06:37,039 --> 02:06:39,319
violent year yet because you're a big for the thirteenth guy.

2913
02:06:39,439 --> 02:06:41,319
Speaker 3: So violent year?

2914
02:06:41,439 --> 02:06:44,560
Speaker 2: Is that the violent nature story? No violence and long?

2915
02:06:44,920 --> 02:06:46,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, didn't he play what was that one where he's

2916
02:06:46,920 --> 02:06:48,840
the candy king killer or the mayor of the town

2917
02:06:49,479 --> 02:06:50,079
during Christmas?

2918
02:06:50,399 --> 02:06:54,039
Speaker 2: That's like, that's like a Christmas movie with it. I

2919
02:06:54,119 --> 02:06:55,720
can't remember what it is, but it's a play on that.

2920
02:06:55,800 --> 02:06:59,399
No in a violent nature, in a violent nature, that's

2921
02:06:59,399 --> 02:07:02,159
a the POV from my adjacent Bordie type of character.

2922
02:07:03,079 --> 02:07:05,159
Speaker 3: Right, very right. I need to watch that one. That

2923
02:07:05,279 --> 02:07:07,079
is on my list. Yeah, I gotta get her ond

2924
02:07:07,079 --> 02:07:10,800
to that one. Oh what else do we got? Yeah,

2925
02:07:10,840 --> 02:07:15,279
Squid Game season two. I remember everyone talking about season

2926
02:07:15,479 --> 02:07:18,439
one and I thought, you know what, I'm gonna dip

2927
02:07:18,439 --> 02:07:20,359
my toes in let's see what's going on. And I

2928
02:07:20,439 --> 02:07:22,840
finished it in a day. I thought, holy fuck. I

2929
02:07:23,159 --> 02:07:26,159
kept trying to stop myself, but that show was so awesome.

2930
02:07:26,239 --> 02:07:28,720
I loved it. I love the story, so I'm really

2931
02:07:28,760 --> 02:07:31,439
excited to get back into that world. I'll probably try

2932
02:07:31,479 --> 02:07:34,279
and rewatch the first season Madison ever saw it. I

2933
02:07:34,359 --> 02:07:37,079
ended up just binging it on my own, So I'll

2934
02:07:37,079 --> 02:07:38,680
see if maybe I can get her on board this

2935
02:07:38,800 --> 02:07:41,479
time to give it a go, because yeah, that that

2936
02:07:41,560 --> 02:07:45,520
show is it's great. I can't wait. What else do

2937
02:07:45,560 --> 02:07:49,479
we have? Yeah, hard eyes that that scene in the

2938
02:07:49,520 --> 02:07:52,640
back of that van was just a curveball that was

2939
02:07:52,760 --> 02:07:55,600
just not expecting that. That's quite a death.

2940
02:07:55,880 --> 02:07:57,000
Speaker 2: A wonderfulonderful night.

2941
02:07:58,359 --> 02:07:59,319
Speaker 3: Yes, that's the one.

2942
02:08:00,079 --> 02:08:00,560
Speaker 2: Commend it.

2943
02:08:03,079 --> 02:08:08,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. And so then Skeleton Crew, the trailer thing that

2944
02:08:08,720 --> 02:08:11,159
you use the song that you said that they was

2945
02:08:11,199 --> 02:08:13,039
like our music, but then re dubbed in that like

2946
02:08:13,119 --> 02:08:14,600
kind of like Star Wars e vibe.

2947
02:08:14,840 --> 02:08:16,039
Speaker 1: I actually really liked it.

2948
02:08:16,439 --> 02:08:21,520
Speaker 3: And it's weird because like it doesn't necessarily feel like

2949
02:08:21,720 --> 02:08:24,600
Star Wars. It feels very much like its own thing.

2950
02:08:24,800 --> 02:08:28,359
And that's where it'll be difficult to remind myself, like, hey,

2951
02:08:28,399 --> 02:08:30,960
this is the same universe. Like Luke Skywalker is like

2952
02:08:31,039 --> 02:08:35,159
buzzing around right now, palpatinees out on Exico right now,

2953
02:08:35,319 --> 02:08:42,199
just like rejuvenating, and Snoke is moving around like Kyle. Yeah,

2954
02:08:42,239 --> 02:08:45,279
that's right. There's so many factors going on during this

2955
02:08:45,359 --> 02:08:50,000
time that's just weird and peculiar. But I kind of

2956
02:08:50,119 --> 02:08:53,239
like that there. I I I commend them for trying

2957
02:08:53,279 --> 02:08:55,399
to do something very very different with this, and I

2958
02:08:55,439 --> 02:08:57,520
think that we'll see if it pays off or we'll

2959
02:08:57,560 --> 02:08:59,840
see if maybe it doesn't pay off, who knows, but

2960
02:09:00,760 --> 02:09:03,720
it definitely has that that goonies kind of vibe to it,

2961
02:09:03,760 --> 02:09:08,000
and that's owning up maybe Stranger Things, a goony Stranger Things,

2962
02:09:08,039 --> 02:09:10,039
which is funny, a Stranger thing y. Yeah, dropped a

2963
02:09:10,039 --> 02:09:10,840
trailer too.

2964
02:09:11,159 --> 02:09:13,039
Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, just the titles. That's why I didn't put

2965
02:09:13,039 --> 02:09:15,479
in here. But yeah, like that's what I was hoping.

2966
02:09:15,479 --> 02:09:17,479
It was more goonies than Stranger Things. But I just

2967
02:09:17,479 --> 02:09:19,760
feel like it wasn't as serious as trailer. Again, I'm

2968
02:09:19,760 --> 02:09:22,920
hoping they just cut it that way. But yeah, I

2969
02:09:22,920 --> 02:09:25,640
don't know how this was gonna do. Luckily, like Agatha

2970
02:09:25,960 --> 02:09:27,640
ended up doing well and found an audience and it

2971
02:09:27,760 --> 02:09:29,920
kept like growing in the ratings. It did, becoming a

2972
02:09:29,960 --> 02:09:32,439
massive hit, So maybe this will happen. But I just

2973
02:09:32,520 --> 02:09:34,760
wonder after Acolyte, if this is the right show to

2974
02:09:34,800 --> 02:09:36,720
put out there in the Star Wars world. I just

2975
02:09:37,520 --> 02:09:39,880
I could see this going bad. But as usual, just

2976
02:09:39,880 --> 02:09:42,720
people just you know, be nice. I can't actors. They're

2977
02:09:42,800 --> 02:09:45,239
just trying to start out here, you know, and everything.

2978
02:09:45,359 --> 02:09:50,159
Speaker 3: So yeah, there's there was one creature that they showed,

2979
02:09:50,199 --> 02:09:54,680
and maybe I am wrong to think that it's the

2980
02:09:54,680 --> 02:09:59,039
the same creature, But isn't the trailer very briefly in

2981
02:09:59,159 --> 02:10:02,479
Rogue one, there is that thing called a Bogli or

2982
02:10:02,520 --> 02:10:04,880
whatever it was. It was like that mind reading creature.

2983
02:10:04,960 --> 02:10:08,279
And I'm pretty sure, I'm just like, thanks through the

2984
02:10:08,319 --> 02:10:13,680
trailer here, I'm pretty sure that it popped up briefly Bogley,

2985
02:10:13,800 --> 02:10:16,079
but maybe not like it looks. It looks like it

2986
02:10:16,119 --> 02:10:17,880
could be something different, but it's similar. It has like

2987
02:10:17,880 --> 02:10:19,920
long tentacles and whatnot. It was a thing that like

2988
02:10:20,000 --> 02:10:26,960
latched onto the pilot and what's his name? Lies? What's

2989
02:10:26,960 --> 02:10:31,920
his name? Tommy Chows helping me out here? Deceptions? What's

2990
02:10:31,960 --> 02:10:34,079
his name? Sagerera?

2991
02:10:35,239 --> 02:10:38,840
Speaker 2: Oh god? Why am I forgetting his name?

2992
02:10:38,880 --> 02:10:43,800
Speaker 3: Not to like Frost of course, thank yous Frost.

2993
02:10:46,920 --> 02:10:49,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, because actually it's a forest. Thank you.

2994
02:10:51,159 --> 02:10:55,640
Speaker 3: That's when he's like like and then the creature comes out.

2995
02:10:55,520 --> 02:11:01,039
Speaker 2: And I think, I think when you try to invoke

2996
02:11:01,159 --> 02:11:03,159
Rogue one, you got two of the worst people here

2997
02:11:03,199 --> 02:11:04,279
to try and evoke that way.

2998
02:11:04,479 --> 02:11:07,159
Speaker 1: So yeah, I've shut that out of my brain. I

2999
02:11:07,319 --> 02:11:08,159
deleted it.

3000
02:11:08,159 --> 02:11:08,800
Speaker 3: It's harder.

3001
02:11:09,479 --> 02:11:13,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, Wealtley, Jevin, we have done it. I don't think

3002
02:11:13,119 --> 02:11:15,800
is there anything I'd add? Anything we missed? Nothing?

3003
02:11:16,119 --> 02:11:17,479
Speaker 1: Take me Home, Take you.

3004
02:11:17,399 --> 02:11:19,439
Speaker 2: Home, Welt lays Joe, and we will be back next

3005
02:11:19,439 --> 02:11:21,680
week with there will be another newscast because they have

3006
02:11:21,760 --> 02:11:25,159
D twenty three Brazil. Happened this week. They got panels

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for Disney, Marvel and Star Wars. So we should be.

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Speaker 1: D twenty three Canada hopefully, But where's our D twenty

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three Canada?

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Speaker 2: Come on? But you know it's just gonna be in Toronto,

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you know, it's not like at least for Brazil.

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, where's ours? You know?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? But yeah, so hopefully we get some news there.

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Until then, I'm worn by

