Speaker 1: Existent notch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fights.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fights.
Speaker 2: Times, get off the fach. Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and
welcome back to The Geek for his podcast, the six
hundred and thirty ninth episode of The Geek for his
podcast I'm the Clown Principle podcast for the second week
in a row or second podcast because I thought it
was fitting, which we'll talk about later. And I'm joined
by Hey.
Speaker 1: I'm the am marcaster doing with this.
Speaker 3: I'm the going in circles Taylor Field.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's pertaining to hang on. I just had
to change the uh the title here, I forgot the
forgot the episode titles about rumors wrong. I want to
roll right now. You know Daniel Kirklan wasn't gonna be here,
but yes, no, no Kirkland today. But we are here
right before a nice Canadian law. I guess it's not Canadian.
I guess it's a long weekend everywhere, but uh, we
are here to have a little newscast going on because
there's lots of stuff we didn't do one last week
I don't think. I can't remember was the last week
week before them?
Speaker 1: That was last week.
Speaker 3: I'll say it's last week, but I wouldn't put my
money on it.
Speaker 2: Maybe it was early, Yeah, I guess it was the Tuesdays.
Speaker 1: It was a little earlier than part of me doing
it was like I gotta fly to Cologna and I
gotta do some ship and I didn't really want to
do some ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so right, Yeah, that that's why is because it
was a little earlier because extra life, Right, we had
some stuff going on. But yeah, we've got lots of
stuff to talk about. Literally, it was gonna be like
there's a couple good topics, but it was some ketchup
of the stuff that Taylor and I booted that was
like evergreen stuff of like okay, some trailers and movies
let's talk about. But we got so busy last week
and then this week just today. You can tell, you know,
not to get too much in it, but you can
tell that the election's over because people are just dropping
news like everything like oh Amazon, Mass Effect show, oh
Batman show, Star Wars were making three million movies. You
can tell that, like, okay, now the news cycles, calm down,
let's do that. But yeah, speaking of that, let's just
we're gonna have some fun. I know, it's been a
tough week for some people we understand always come to
our discord, as I tweeted out this week, always a
safe space for because online get a little crazy. Our
discord is just all love and talking geek stuff. It's
been a rocky week, but it was a good week
in there with everybody talk. Even today, it was fun
seeing a many conversation about the substance which we just reviewed.
But yeah, the discords down below. If the link ever
does not work, because it changes all the time, I
try to keep it updated, but just let us know
and we can always shoot you a link and we'd
love to have you in there. And that's a good space,
that it's safe, and it's all just you know, well,
I love our community that we've built, I love the
people we have. It's just a you know, it's not
the biggest thing in the world, but I would take
this for the biggest thing for having a bunch of
assholes in there. And like I said, I think we
talld Also the the nine year, I'm always waiting like, oh,
one day someone's gonna join, Like we've not had to
ban anyone from the discord or like we've never had
someone calling after nine where I'm like oh, this person's
just kind of mean spirit or like we've been very lucky.
Maybe that's just what people hear and they're like, okay,
like I match those people, so that's good. But yeah,
I always come over there. It's a fun time and
we're gonna have some fun today. We're gonna start off now.
I'm not sure how much you have been watching Dilmus,
but is there anything you haven't watched other than we
did all review, you know, plus Kirkland Substance. That was yesterday. Again,
thank you to Charlie Randall. That was a good time.
We did an hour and a half one of our
longer like just single movie retro, so check that out.
That's lots of fun and like we said in the discord,
people are talking about their interpretation. So it's it's a
It's a movie that I feel like every time because
both Charlie Mike said something that I didn't think about
or didn't think about that perspective. So I think it's
a good movie that when someone else new watches, they're
gonna have something else. So l s bubbs, Yeah, there
you go. Was very happy to hear our two k
discussion on side Quest.
Speaker 1: Yeah go check out side Quest was really fun kind
of recap of our highlights from the twenty four hour
stream and had a bunch of other things as well.
So yeah, it was a fun episode.
Speaker 2: S Bubbs, because I keep you guys updated because you're
not in there. In the wrestling discord, he's finally playing
a second season of GM Mode because he said he
took some advice from me, because what he would do
is always in those early weeks, he would start to
get beat and he would quit and just start a
new file because it's so far ahead. But I remember,
I guys told you it's it's not a sprint, it's
a marathon, and that's where you gotta get to keep going.
So going a side quest we've talked about and the
stream if people don't know, you know, the Cherry stream
happened this weekend. A big thank you can't remember the
it's I think it's fourteen oh two down now that
we added the sales shirts and it's like almost just
under two grand for Canadian dollars, so which is very impressive.
I should probably shut that up more because it is
the BC Chown's Hospital as in Canadian so when you
hear that would be like man, like almost two grand
and yeah, now we've raised it's by next year. We're
very close to fourteen thousand American overall these past eight years,
so just and we were in the top one thousand.
So just to hear that is really great. And just
to have an average of more than a thousand year.
A big thank you to everyone that donated, everybody that
watched streamed. It was a good time. I know I detoured,
so sorry about that, Dan, but I just thought I
should get that out of the way first. About the people,
because well, if it was just us and our family,
of course we could raise some money. But people, you know,
whether it's the trivia battle, popping in the chat, sharing
the links, we couldn't do you know, this podcast because
of you guys or the Extra Life charity stream, we'd
still be at like that five hundred goal we did
the first year. Now it's crazy. No matter what happens
with the podcast, even if ended today, it's like we've
almost raised you know, like, what is that in Canadia?
Let's do Canadian dollars year because I'm not a smart
on the bubble guy. So fourteen thousand, so almost twenty
thousand dollars for the BC Chilness Hospital. Pretty impressive. I
don't think when we start this podcast we would ever
thought like, hey, we're raising any k for a charity.
So pretty good, you know, Yeah, so thank you everybody. Dylan,
What have you been watching?
Speaker 1: I've watched a lot in the last last couple of weeks.
Here a couple very quick shows. I watched Don't Move,
which is that like newer Netflix?
Speaker 2: Oh good, I want to hear thoughts. Yeah, it's been
in my queue. Yeah, produced by Sam Raimi and uh
I love Flint Wittrock he's in there?
Speaker 1: Is that the main the main guy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, dark haired guy. I don't know what role he plays,
but he's a favorite.
Speaker 1: What have I seen him in recently? He was in
something else recently that was maybe I'm just mixing him
with Josh Hartnette from Trap or something. You have a very.
Speaker 2: Similar look he was in Did you see The Big
Short recently? I know Taylor, He's in a lot of
seasons of American horror story.
Speaker 1: Uh he he looks familiar enough, but anyway, I yeah,
I don't know the exact thing that I've seen him.
Speaker 2: Last year? Did you watch The End the Arms? Ben
affleck Sex thriller. Did you watch that?
Speaker 1: He's not probably should have but I didn't should have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a guy that he keeps popping up in
my bit roles. But uh yeah, and he was cast
as Greenland entered before James gun did the whole cutaway, so.
Speaker 1: The old cutaway. Yeah, it's funny seeing the movie, seeing
Sam Raimi seeing Don't Move. I'm like, Okay, is this
like somehow like not not a sequel to Don't Breathe,
But is it trying to go for that same sort
of thing, which it definitely isn't very different vibes. I
think the writing was pretty weak on it, and overall
it was not great, but it is it is like
a fun novel concept for a thriller horror sort of movie.
I think it really is. Just like some of the
story writing in particular is what brings it down. I
just you know, if it's it's on Netflix, you just
want something dumby and turn your brain off and just
kind of watch it. It's one of those.
Speaker 2: It's good.
Speaker 1: The other oneing in that realm that I watched is
I finally watched Night Swim for whatever reason. Yeah, and
I had very very low expectations for it for whatever reason,
just because the conversations that have circled it, and I
thought it was very fun. It was very different vibe
than I thought. I didn't expect it to be like
a family about a family. I don't know. I thought
it'd be just like really grotesque horror, like a lot
of you know, adult pool parties, maybe some new people.
Speaker 2: It was just young teens.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a very different vibe than that, you know,
very cheesy. But I had I had a lot of
fun with it. It was a good time. So showed
us to night swim and then getting into the upper
echelon stuff a big Halloween watch for me, and was immaculate.
Finally got around to that, Oh yeah, yeah, I really
really enjoyed that because I feel like it was kind
of an against type sort of thing for Sweeney. I
haven't seen her do something quite like that before, and
I was really impressed by her performance in there. And like,
I guess the only other thing is that I've seen
her in a leading role in the movie would have
been that thing with Glenn Powell that I Forget About You, Yeah,
which is like a very like, yeah, very different, but
that movie has some crazy plot stuff going on, Like
the lore is really interesting, cinematography is fantastic. So that
was a good time.
Speaker 2: Moving up before you go. I just love I won't
say what it is for you. I haven't seen it,
but I love the reveal of how she got pregnant.
It's so just batshit, but like, yeah, it's like in
a cool like oh, like I didn't think about that.
When the movie starts. I'm like, I guess, like in
this weird you know, hide in reality room, Like, I
guess you could make that work with science. But I
love that revealing. Okay, this is I thought it was
clever how they gone there, and like, like I said,
I don't think it's realistic, but in the world they
set up, I was like, okay, I dig that.
Speaker 1: So yeah. And then two more kind of earlier from
this year that I finally put up on one Lisa Frankenstein.
I fucking love that movie. It was so so I
love the tone of it. I love kind of all
the performances. I thought, uh, it's Cole Sprouse, right, is
the one that's in there. I don't I thought he
would talk more in the movie. He doesn't really, but
I still think he does a really good job. And
then Catherine Newton, like, I've only seen her in Quantumnia,
so it's fun to see her in this, and I
think she's outstanding. I love the visuals and the color
of the movie. It was just such a fun time.
It was very cheesy, very silly, but like it knew
exactly what it was going for and I feel like
it just like one hundred percent aced the assignment in
that way. So yeah, that was a fun one that
I'm really glad I finally cut up on. I remember
you saying good things about it, Travis. Yeah, but even
then I still had my expectations kind of well for
some reason, because it.
Speaker 2: Is dread some good things. He liked Sanctuary last year.
Lottie like fair Play a lot. I don't know about Frank,
you know, no, I just remember because I remember we
toup on the newscast and the Discord was really hyped
for that movie, and I was like, these trailers, I
don't think they look in the greatest and I remember
when it came out it felt like the Discord was
kind of disappointed. But I I dropped like a five
and a five on that thing. I'm not sure, like
I really I thought like what they were doing and
it's like it's not simple, but it is. And I
was glad for her because I felt like after ant Man,
she got dunked on a lot for that character. And
it's like I've seen her in things where she can
be good.
Speaker 1: I think none of that is her fault.
Speaker 2: Yes, So that's where it's like, look like if anybody
is like I don't know about her when they told
Young Avengers, it's like, look at Lisa Frankenstein, Like you
just got to put her with good director and she
was good. I don't know, if you've seen a Potatoes,
she's really good. Abigail this year too, she's very you know,
she's very She's just comedic relief character but really fun it.
So I'm glad you Dug that I I don't know
if it would be if any of these two are
gonna watch it to talk about Golden Geeks, but I
would have it in some some areas.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean it's been such a strong year that I
think for me finding that top five is gonna be difficult.
But in terms of like throwing out nolms for best,
I feel like it's gonna maybe be at least the
shout out for me there and then probably Catherine Newton
as well, just for that fun. But even then, looking
at my man, I've been looking at my my notes
for Golden Geeks and there are a lot of like
lead actress roles, like a lot of strong ones this year,
so that will be a tough category for her, but
it'll be fun none those. And what's the name the actress?
The mom's name?
Speaker 2: Again?
Speaker 1: I always forget her. Her name?
Speaker 2: Is it Carley played them? Could you know? Yea?
Speaker 1: She is so fun as a piece of ships that
my character in that just just totally nails it. And
then lastly, I was hoping Kirklann would be here so
that I could say this to both you, Travis, Travis
and Kirkland, but I finally watched Monkey Man. I lot
good one of your favorites.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of the year.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's still one of your phrase
because you just have so many strong ones this year.
I'm sure it's still.
Speaker 2: Still in the top ten. It might be, but it's
turning into twenty twenty two where it was a very
very strong year. And I'm glad you watched that because Kirkland,
it's it's number eight right now, still right now, So
I think that was gonna be Kirklum's pick, so he'll
probably change it because you know, Taya will have to
see it. I guess if we nominate for stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I knew. I mean I I considered grabbing
a ticket and going stand in theaters and just didn't happen.
Whatever happened that week. So I'm glad I finally got
around to it. And yeah, it was just super fun.
You know, it is like a very John Wick thing.
There's even a joke in there, like one of the
guys like selling him a gun is like, ah, this gun.
This is the gun from John Wick, but like the
Chinese version, and it's like, ah, yeah, this is like
John Wick but the Indian version. So I feel like
that joke was very on the nose in that way.
But I think the biggest thing is so to me
was like cinematography was fantastic in this, Like the fight
scenes were so engaging. I feel like it's a like
any director who overuses shaky cam, I want them to
watch that movie. And just like the way the camera
moves around, it's like it's such a it's like a
character it's part of the scene and it feels like
the impact of the hits, and it feels like it's
giving the power of the hits but without just like
crazy flinging the camera around. So really impressed by that.
Of course, Dev's he's fantastic. I put him in every
fancast we do. I throw him in some role, even
if it doesn't make sense. So I'm a big fan
of him. And yeah, overall it is just it was
a really good time. I think some of the the
overarching story stuff of like the the communities or society aspect,
maybe it didn't work as well for me, but it's
also like an action movie and like the individual personal tale,
that stuff really worked. And the mythology I really enjoyed
the way that was kind of woven in there as well,
and just you know, just some of the joke like
getting a rickshaw and throwing like Nitross on and they're
flying through the city and that was like such a
fun little gimmick. So there's a lot of really good
stuff in there. So yeah, I really really glad I
finally watched that one. But yeah, been a good couple
of weeks of watching the movie. Really enjoyed a lot
of stuff.
Speaker 2: No, and you knocked out someones and obviously it's still
not till January February, but you knocked out someones that
will probably be coming up later on the year. So okay,
I I feel like you're gonna enjoy Monkey Man whenever
you get to it. I feel like I think it's
on Prime now, so easy, easy click of a button there.
Speaker 3: Easy click. Yeah, I think it's watching something that's on
my radar, so I will ultimately have to watch it
if you guys force my hands.
Speaker 2: So I don't think we will. I don't. I don't.
I don't know if Kirkland's gonna do just you.
Speaker 1: Have against it? Taylor?
Speaker 2: What do you?
Speaker 3: What are you doing? Time?
Speaker 2: That's that's there? Yeah, Now, I don't know if you
will if all three of us. I feel like it
might be a situation where if it gets nominated, you
might have to watch it after the fact, like confer
for your voting. But I don't know if he's gonna
Maybe he feels he really wants you to watch it.
But if all three of us have watched already, is
he gonna put a Golden Geeks picture just on you? Taylor?
You think you weren't just us.
Speaker 1: The whole pick Man. It's trigger because I think it's
a lock for some of the maybe non best film
categories and maybe has a chance on that best Best,
but like just other utter categories, I think it's gonna
just clean, sweet, clean sweet. But it'll be in there
for sure if we get the numbers. But at least
we have three now.
Speaker 2: So yeah, obviously I think i'm being you know, it,
don't be greedy, but I was. I was kind of
hoping I would have heard something by now. But like
his next projects, I'm hoping it wasn't. I don't think
it will be one and done because it was very
it was critically claim. I think it did all right
in the box office. I think they're hoping it was
going to be like a John Wick runaway hit, and
I think it was just like a Proffle movie. Didn't
get that Garner like like that. But yeah, I really
hope we hear news soon that he's doing something, because
it's like for a first time director. Obviously he's got
a bigger budget it. But still I really enjoyed it.
So I'm glad you watched those spub's about your Lisa
Frankenstein at the time. Spub's called it if Tim Berne
made a good movie in twenty twenty four, but he
redeemed himself later with the new Beetle Juice, which I yeah,
I kind of agree. It feels very updated. Tim Burn. Yeah,
it feels like it's like if Tim Burn's daugh, which
funny enough, it's Ron William's daughter that directed. And I'm
the same thing. I'm very excited to see what she does.
I've not seen her other work. I think she's done
like the subs inst director, like some short films, and
I think there's maybe one other movie she's done. I
want to go back. But same thing. I'm excited to
see like more of her work and what she can do.
And uh yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting.
So uh tear Field, Yes, uh yeah, I am bald now.
It is uh it is the path that I've chosen.
But again, I tell people this, it's never been bald
in the winter. It's actually my favorite time because very
easy for Tuk. Like right now, when I get cold,
when I put this hood up, the heat just radiates,
like it just stays in here. So it's it's like
a nice little heater.
Speaker 1: So now I think you have the path that you chose,
but I think the people chose by donating.
Speaker 2: They did choose, and a big thank you to everybody
that did donate. So I'm happy you. Yeah, I'm happy
you did that. I mean, I definitely rock it for
a while. But uh, tay, what have you been watching?
Speaker 3: Oh let's see pop out the old list here. So
after the charity stream, I thought, Okay, there's a few
few things that I need to just kind of like
Aquaman long legs, yea blue beetle. Uh yeah, No, we
did Ready Player one. I had a big craven it
just to kind of get back into there specifically just
because I think my favorite arc of that film is
the whole Shining sequence. I really really like it. It's
so much fun, and especially like the end battle. Just
every time I watched this movie, I spot different ips
that I just didn't notice before, and it's so so
much fun. The cyclops from the seventh Voya just sind bad.
Speaker 1: Deep deep cut.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I used to watch the movie as a little kid,
and it's just like ole, I can't believe they actually
threw that in there, like you prefer.
Speaker 2: Not to like YouTube and see them all. You just
want every time you watch it, catch something new. That's
what you want to do. Yeah, nice, I respect it.
Speaker 1: It's a great way to experience.
Speaker 3: It's a good time. Yeah, so that's great movie. I'm
looking forward to the sequel whenever they do that, because
they announced a sequel.
Speaker 2: Didn't thing for the book.
Speaker 3: I did it for the movie is the book?
Speaker 2: Is there already a sequel for the book? Yeah? Yeah,
guy in the chair, I don't think you're gonna get
the movie sequel. I don't think it did that well.
I can take a look, but I think it's one
of those same things did like profitable, but I don't
think it was sending Ready Player two.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 1: Book came out in twenty twenty, so that's fresh ish.
I mean, that's getting pretty pretty old.
Speaker 2: Okay, so it came two years after the movie, and
the movie Let's See had a budget of no. Actually,
this did better than I thought. Had a budget of
one f seventy five and then eight six hundred million,
so no, much better than I I thought it was
gonna sy Yeah. No, maybe I guess you could get one.
I guess that's a did did well enough. So I
need to get a rewatch I was. I was really
wanting to like it. I don't think I disliked it,
but uh I do need to maybe give it one
more shot just to see.
Speaker 3: So yeah, after that, Thumberlina. That is a classic one.
Just watching growing up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just you can't watch The Monkey Man, but
you're watching Thumberlina again ready player one. Madison has is
watching these with me, so there's another factor.
Speaker 3: Time man should love.
Speaker 2: My she might like I bet she would actually like
Lisa franken Sign. There's some darker stuff, but it's like
it's cutty dark.
Speaker 3: It's I'm getting around to that because I saw that
was on Prime, so I'm tiptoeing. I'm gonna probably like
slap that on soon.
Speaker 2: Digital tiptoeing, digital tiptoe.
Speaker 3: And then last on my list, here is a Herbie
fully loaded. This is a Madison pick. I was doing
something and then Madison was like, I'm gonna put this on.
So she put it on and I said, dad, I
was like, holy shit, the cast is stacked. We got
Justin long Well, Michael Keaton, Lindsay Lohan. I'm like, holy fuck.
We got a lot of big names in here.
Speaker 2: Did you know know Lindsay Lohan was in there.
Speaker 3: No, I'd never seen this before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's fair. That was in that era of
like she had Freaky Friday, that Confessions of a Shop
Haulck and there's something I think it's Confessions of Shop Haulic.
There's another one in there missing that was bigger when
she oh mean girls, duh mean fu? Yeah, yeah, but
she was. She was on a run there for a
little bit.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, I've never seen it before. I would not
give points to it. First story. Really, I was just
I had fun just with the cast members and all that.
Speaker 2: So was justin Loan the love interest, Yeah, of course
you as Yeah, okay, I just I haven't. I haven't
actually think I've ever seen that movie. I was out
because I have, you know, cars and all.
Speaker 3: So me and Madison were joking about how there's a
scene where they're driving along this highway and we're like, oh, yeah,
this is the scene where justin long drop Sevundsay low
Head and then gets the call and Barbarian.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's it could be he doesn't die in Herbie, right,
so maybe he goes on to watch that. I got
to watch every Halloween like, I got to rewatch Barbarian
and I have it on the back list and I
never do, but I gotta. I gotta do it soon
because I've been great itching for it. But you know,
I haven't been doing too much because me and Emily
have started to ketch up on some stuff like Love
is Blind, like the US edition, and then like The Circle,
the last season we didn't watch, so we're ketch up
a lot of stuff like that, and then obviously are
watching The Substance again for a second week. So I
think I only have three things to shout out. Maybe
is there Okay? Yeah, So just at the after Halloween,
after the stream, finally watched Nightmare Before Christmas Ellie Form
like pretty much months have been asking, but I'm like, oh,
like that's a Halloween movie. We can wait because it's
like it's Halloween and Christmas. But it was a perfectly okay,
I'm tired put this on and I somehow stayed awake
for that, so yeah, I'm still good. Classic Night Before Christmas,
great movie. And then I watched Terrrifire three, So I
wanted to give this a go round because I've been
talking about each week or each newscast out of key,
I've only I've watched all them while I watched all Halls.
Even then I rewatched Terrrifier one and two. So this one,
I was surprised by how much I like it because
I always say that I respect the movies. I love
what they're going for as far as the effects. They're hardworking.
But like i've in the past a Terrifier one and
two or not, like I would deem them good movies,
I think I like them both a little bit more
on this rewatch. Once I knew I was getting into
I think terror Fire two I can pass. Serrifire one
is I don't know. I think there's there's a lot
a lot going on there, but with three, no, it
was like it felt like a big upgrade. And I'll say,
like the opening shot, I think it's the opening scene
or one of them. It's uh people have seen in
the trailers, but it's like Santa's in the house, but
of course it's not Santa. It's art. The clown is Santa.
But the way they like take their time and they
pace it and it's this big build up to see
art felt like the most no punitent like artful thing
they had ever done. Artful might be the bad work
because they do some freaky stuff, but it felt like
the most artistically well done thing I've ever seen. I
was like, Okay, of course I got a bigger budget
now because the second one was like two hundred and
fifty thousand. This was four million, So of course that
stuff helps. But this just felt in general all around,
it's like, oh, they've they've elevated. So like those first
two I gave like a two point five, a three
out of five. This I gave a full four. I
really enjoyed it. Still some super gross stuff, like it's uh,
like I say, it's it's it makes the Saw movies
look kind of kiddish in a way. That's how bad
this stuffing. Like this one was rated X or NC
seventeen or whatever. So but uh, yeah, I'm excited for
where I'm happy that I actually really enjoyed one of
these movies. I think I'll always watch them together if
I do, cuz I'll always say the thing is with
these movies, the fucking art the clown character is phenomenal.
Like even in these bad movies like that, what I
consider the first one not the greatest, Like it's just
fun to watch him in these situations. So there's that,
And then the only other thing I watched this week
was a super slash Man the Christopher Reeves story. Highly
recommend if you're a big fan of Superman Christopher Reeve. Honestly,
we're doing the Retro and patroon right now, so you
can check out that and the Fantastic Four of those
are exclusive to Patreon. But uh yeah, like I don't know, Christio.
You didn't grow up with them, so you might not
have the same reaction. But like I feel like, just
even as a human, you might watch this and well, up,
it's it's it's a good watch, but it's also a
very tough watch with what that family goes through, especially
the just things I didn't know about in that last
year for those kids. It's like, it's just it's such
a tough situation. But uh yeah, and I was kind
of surprised, how you think, Okay, this is a legendary
guy was Superman, then he became you know, paraplegic. That
might be the wrong term. I think that's right, but
there I think there's a different version he is. So
I apologize for that, but you'd think that Okay, it's
gonna be like a shining story, and it is, but
then they kind of just talk about at times where
even his kids are like, yeah, in this era of
his life, he was kind of like an asshole, Like
he was like not home that much. I was very surprised.
And there's other stuff too that once he was paralyzed,
thinks he was trying to do that a community wasn't
a fan of. So that's where I'm saying this in
a way where it fe like the documentary wasn't just
a puffy which they could do because Christopher Reeve first
comic movie ever. You can especially Supman's come out, you
can play that out. But I kind of respected that
they showed like, Okay, there was some times in his
life where I won't say controversial figure, but you know,
maybe did things that people didn't enjoy. So I liked that.
And uh yeah, no, it was a there's some heartbreaking
stuff in there, but very very well made. So I
would say anybody that's a fan of Christop Reeve or
Supman definitely checked that out. It's a documentary worth watching.
So but yeah, that was it. That's a kind of
been it that way much. I'll probably be watching some
more movies soon. I'm hopefully gonna try and see a
Nora this week, because we did get Cineplex, not a
Grand ten, because grandten's a bike right away. Cineplex is
a little bit more of a pain that I'm trying
to trying to figure it out, so we'll see, I suppose, says.
The most I remember about Herbie Fully Loaded is that
Disney World has a bunch of theme hotels around it,
and one thing was Herbie themed, and I stayed there
once as a kid. I wonder if it's still Herbie themed.
I bet it's not her Hervey themed anymore. As I say,
just because they're gutting everything from Disney, I feel like
all that old s which now yeah I have. I'm
there's my boomer take. I hate that stuff. I hate
there's all that stuff, like when they took out Tune World,
Like I get it, they got the IP and everything.
I guess I just wish they like did additional too,
like found more space and just built Oh here's your
star Wars, here's your Marvel. But I loved that stuff,
and it sucks that when I go back, it's like, oh,
it's not gonna be that classic stuff.
Speaker 3: But you know, well that's what they did with I
think Mountain has been like rebranded as Princess is a
Tiana like Princess and the Frog like her ride now,
so yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it though it's all business. Then finally
Subbs but Terrifier says, doing it for the po V
the kid looking for Santa's a cool choice and evoke
that feeling I look around the house as a kid.
I agree, great opening, actually scary, and yeah, that's my
point of just like usually they make Art the clown
scary because it's like, look, he'll like chop off your dick,
you know, like that type of stuff, and like they'll
show it. They'll just like in one movie, he just
you just see him ripping off someone's penis, you know,
and it's just like, yeah, this guy is fucked up,
Like that's why he's scary, because he might hurt you.
But this was the act like he felt scary, like
you couldn't even you could. I feel like you could
have a rated ARC cut of the movie and actually
be scared of Art this time, even though he's quite comedic.
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at some point. So it's up there. Let's talk. Let's
get the he did, Let's get the anger part of
the way for Taylor Field, because who knows how much
there will be to talk about here. But so this
came out today and this is all like hollyd Reporter deadlines.
This is top tier stuff. So Simon Kinberg, who I'll
go over his credentials in a little bit. Lots of hits,
lots of missus, you know, stuff like he's wrote Days
of Future Past. I would say that's a top ten
comic movie. He's wrote Dark Phoenix. It's he's that type
of guy where you look at like Ian for Taylor
He's like he wrote The Shore, one of those Shorock
movies you like. But then he wrote Fantastic Four, you know,
like one of those where is it here? I just
gotta hit it again, Like that's it that that that's.
Speaker 1: From the script, that's his writing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, say that again, Like I suppose to says Broom's
kid is gonna be like oh some about Skywalk and
say again, so I'll go over his credentials. But it
was announced today that he's not producing, which a lot
of his hits are more on the producing side. So
I'm going to go over his writing credentials. But he
is writing a trilogy. Now, this is the thing where
it's not that it it's a it was misreported. It's
some of these Scoopers have heard this trilogy is episodes
ten to twelve, and then some have heard, nah, it's
just a separate trilogy. But it sounds like it is
taking place after episode nine, so it sounds like, no
matter what, it is a sequel going forward. I bet
the confusion, what's the confusion? I bet the confusion with
the Scoopers is probably I bet knowing Lucasfilm hasn't decided
about what they're doing with this. I guarantee in some
boardrooms it's been like, Okay, it's probably labeled it's like
episodes ten and twelve, but maybe like, ah, but do
we want to call them that? Because that's obviously that's
a huge legacy thing. So Taylor obviously, so you can
get your rant, but I want to get just your
opinion of let's say, because we put a disclaimer last
couple of weeks ago, right when we talked about the
Ray news, and I think all of us that we're
giving someone what at least you and me were like, Okay,
we're kind of done. We'll talk about these things, but
in as far as believing them, that was kind of
like the last straw of it. I know you're gonna
rant on that, so you can take I'm saying table
that for a second. If this were to happen, do
you like this idea and do you have a preference
between actually getting episodes that are ten to twelve but
not maybe a Ray and Finn coming back. It's new people.
And they did say here here's my last one too.
They said, like characters you know could be involved with this.
It's not just like a for sure, you know, Ray
is the lead of this movie because she has her
own movie over there, right, So would you prefer a
ten to twelve or would you like, hey, it's a
sequel that's going forward that it's yeah kind of you know,
with our characters, not with our characters, but it's still
not ten to twelve. So if it were to happen,
that's what I'm asking you.
Speaker 3: I you know, I just want something to happen at
this point. That's all I really really want. When this
concept pops up of it being a whole new Saga trilogy,
I'm thinking, okay, like, if they're doing ten to twelve,
that tells me that it's Skywalker oriented, because that's what
the saga is. Basically, it's always a Skywalkers. And of
course then you'd incorporate Ray I'm sure, because she's a
Skywalker now. But it's just funny to think that we've
come this far since twenty nineteen being our last Numeral
Star Wars film, and we've had just two spinoffs before then,
not after before them, that are like standalone movies on
their own. Of course, now before this trilogy, we're getting
one the Manu and Grogu one, which that's okay, that's fair,
but it's hard to like, it's hard to get super
super stoked, but I'll save that for after. I like
the idea of them doing a ten to twelve, I
really really do, but I just get scared of the
story that we've had so far, and I feel like
we haven't spent enough time kind of mining into the
characters and the story and the lord that's been established
for episode seven to nine, I feel like there's still
a lot to explore there and haven't tapped into it
a lot. So now that them already thinking like, hey,
we're gonna jump to this saga here with a new trilogy,
it's like, well, like how far into the future are
we going with that? And like what what is there
to really explore? It just makes me think like are
you gonna just pop up a new Palpatine again? Like
what what do you do for this? Because the Sith
aren't really a thing? But again, like I'm excited and
I if I were to be in the theater and
I would see that Star Wars episode ten, it's like drop,
I'd be like, oh man, those are Roman numerals. I'd
be like, oh, this is pretty cool, Like we're at
we're at ten right now for our X.
Speaker 2: It's a real poster and you know they'll do lightsabers
for some posts, right Like, oh, there's a lot of
cool things they could do with Star Wars X. You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I at the end of the day, I'm
I'm excited for any Star Wars that we can just
we can get in the theater.
Speaker 2: All right, And then how did you feel us? Or
I was bad? I forgot to bring up their credentials
of the actual writer because it supposedly which I guess
could be a good sign as far as maybe having
one writer, because obviously with seven, eight and nine it
bounced around a lot. So even with this guy's credentials,
it's kind of like, well, at least it's one guy.
But here's everything he's written so as recently mister and
Missus Smith, which is getting Emmy nominations, so that's good.
The three hundred and fifty five never saw it, but
I heard it's it's not good you have dark Phoenix
in there, But then you got Stars Rebels. He wrote
seventy four episodes, so obviously you know big fan there.
Then he has Apocalypse X Men, Apocalypse Fan for a stick,
Days of Future Past, and then this means War that
Chris Pine, Tom Hardy Reese Witherspoon spy movie. I'm not
sure if you guys ever seen that. Okay, it's fun
for Taylor, Sherlock Holmes, Jumper X Men, The Last Stand,
which Sherlock Holmes the first so there you go, the
Mister and Missus Smith the movie, and then extra for
like State of the Union with William to phone ice
Cube sets his writing credentials because a lot of people
and even articles will bring up like, oh, he produced
the Marsh and he produced Logan, he produced Days of Future,
or he produce it's like Deadpool Wilvering. But it's like
that still can be a big thing. I'm not saying
producers aren't vital. They are, but that's not what he's announced.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so when he wrote seventy something episodes of Rebels,
how much what would we be? Like, what's the rough
percentage of overall rebels?
Speaker 2: Then?
Speaker 1: If he wrote seventy episodes of that.
Speaker 3: I oh gosh, over four seasons, he probably wrote most
of this. Yeah, each season is probably like twenty episodes,
since there's.
Speaker 2: Seventy five, I do wonder. Let's see, let's say created
by Let's see it says seventy four not yeah, I
don't know. It doesn't maybe specify, but it sounds like
he wrote, uh, like he was a part of the
majority of that production.
Speaker 1: How's the writing of that?
Speaker 2: I prefer Rebels to clone Wars. I don't think Tay
will agree, but I think it's it's good. But it's
also in the guys of like, it still has to
be kiddies sometimes, right, So it's kind of tough.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sorry, not happy with the rebels right up early.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a Clone Wars guy over rebels for sure,
But I mean everyone's kind of got there their pick
what they like over the other, which is totally fair.
You don't hear people talk about resistance that much. It's
usually just rebels Wars.
Speaker 1: There's no resistance heads out there, no, no, uh yeah,
So this guy has I mean, he's done some.
Speaker 3: Stuff that I actually really really like. I like that
Sherlock Holmes movie quite a bit, and yeah, the Mister
and Missus Smith Show. It's actually there's some good stuff
in there too.
Speaker 2: Me.
Speaker 3: You never talked about that, so honestly, it went over
my head to actually talk about it. So and uh, yeah,
it was. It's it's not bad, we haven't finished it yet.
But then you have those other movies that he's done,
like Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix not yet, Dark Phoenix the
Past unfortunately, and Fan for Stick, which we just stretchered.
So it's fifty to fifty but I mean a lot
of people like Rebels. Rebels is a very highly praised show,
and if he's been super well immersed in that and
has worked with Filoni and has been creating that story,
then I think that, Okay, there is definitely a strong
resume Here's he's familiar with the world, and he's familiar
with what needs to be done, and it's you know,
I'd give him the benefit of the doubt of that
being said, So if he was going in blind, didn't
have any of that pre existing Star Wars experience, then
I would be a little bit more apprehensive. But I
kind of like this, and I like the idea that
he is familiar with the universe. So we'll see how
that goes. Should I ran, We'll come back, We'll come back.
Speaker 2: We'll give you a little break there before that app
should Iran.
Speaker 1: So Dylan, you know it's gonna be bad if he
has to ask permission before he goes into Iran, because
that's gonna be just a different level.
Speaker 2: So no, no, Dylan, you've been out on Star Wars.
But if this were to be the official, like hey,
ten to twelve, this is the sequel to the classics,
the prequels and the very mixed sequel the sequel sequels,
Where are you on? That? Does that get you excited? Thinking?
Oh man? You know, I don't think you ever be
like oh man, but like, like, okay, they maybe got
to take this a bit more.
Speaker 1: I love Outlaws, right, so I'm like, I'm open to
it if you throw a good Star Wars thing in
front of me, and like, I'm into it. But I mean,
here's the thing that there's two sides of this, where
one is they can't get anything off the ground movie
wise right now. Obviously Mando's that one seems like it's
actually happening, so we're finally seeing something there, But there's
been so many things announced and canceled and people switching
around and this and that, and so to me, it's like, okay,
is the best idea to confirm a trilogy and that
to be your next idea if you can't even get
one movie to happen.
Speaker 2: Is they haven't confirmed this yet, but it's it's happening
like it's the high end Scoopers of God. But they didn't,
they didn't put out a press release being like we're
for sure doing this.
Speaker 1: I'm aware, I'm just saying that, Okay, just like the
route that's going, Like, that's that's a lot to sign
up for. And I think to your point, I think
picking one right or rather than giving each one to
someone different for a trilogy is not a great idea.
And we saw how messy that made the sequel trilogy
and all that as we went through his career there,
I think he's a perfect pick. Like, yeah, he's got
some stinkers in there, but like most directors or writers
do have something in there, unless they like only do
very few things or even like some of the best,
Like you know, I have a couple in there that
don't work for people. But like, he's done the big
blockbuster movie stuff. He's done a shit ton of Star Wars,
so he seems like a fantastic pick for me. And
if he wants to do the whole trilogy and they
can walk in on that, I think that's a good
idea too. So from one angle, it's like, Okay, is
signing up for three movies a good idea? Maybe not
because they can't even get one to happen. But at
the same time, this whole, the whole movie, the whole
Star Wars and everything is based off of and like
where the Bread and Butter is. Four movies is with
the trilogy format, they did a couple of spin offs
and Mando is happening as well. But for the most part,
that's kind of where these movies exist. That's where the
structure of it is. That's how they try and build
it up. And I'm sure that when they're writing episodes, well,
especially with the Cases episode seven, they didn't know what
was gonna happen nine. Maybe they had a few like
but yeah, because of how people were different cooks in
the kitchen there, and then a lot of the Star
Wars like the other stuff too, with you know, going
back to the George Lucas air and whatnot. I'm sure
he didn't plan every little detail before you know, they
started shooting the first one whatever. So yeah, I don't know.
I think there's kind of a mixed bag here. But
of course, like at the end of the day, my
default stance here, my posture is great skepticism because I
don't know why this one would be any more legit
than the other ones that seemed very legit when they
were announced at the time. So I mean, if they've
scrapped everything which it seems like they have. We've got
a lot of info recently about things that are officially canceled,
but there are still a lot of things in limbo.
I don't know. It seems like they have a decent
recipe here, but also we only have a writer, like,
you need a lot more than that for these things
to happen. So we'll see what happens. It's unlikely, but
if it does, yeah, I think they have a decent
recipe going for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's a couple angles where. The only
reason I wanted to mention the why it hasn't officially
been announced is I do think if they were to
ever announce this officially and say it's ten to twelve,
I actually, I know this sounds stupid for me to say,
but I would say it's for sure happening because I
feel like that's like a I can't say sacred thing
because that sounds strange because like you know, I see
Kevin Davis as Disney Stars isn't bad at all. That's
where it's like, well, you know, for me, episode nine,
there's lots of issues and there's other stuff, right, so
it's like I don't consider.
Speaker 1: I mean it isn't all bad, but we can't of course, yeah,
it's all good.
Speaker 2: And I think, Kevin, if you because you might be
new er, I think if you listen to most of
our stuff, we're more I think we're more positive than
we are negative. I've only failed I think three Star
Wars things out of the Disney era, which would have
been Act like Boba and then Mando three, even Mandal three.
I might have passed that, you know, but those other
two Bob and Actlte, those those those are definitely bad
for me. Those are some bad stuff. But I think
if they ever put pen to paper and it's Star
Wars celebration whatever, and they say, yeah, we're doing ten
to twelve, I feel like they have to because that's
kind of a Star Wars and the episodes are known
like they're legendary things. Right, even those last three doesn't
matter it. They all made a billion, they're big, and
I think that does raise some hype, and I think
for me, that's what I need is the clarification. But
all I hope is that they have a writer. I
hope they never once say anything about this in public
until it's like done done, Like I mean, like they're
good to go, not this, Hey we got someone writing
these three movies, but they're still writing them. It's like,
that's great that these rumors are out there, or even
just if they're high tier scoops. But it's just like,
I don't want it to be a situation like we're
doing with the Ray movie or the other stuff where
it gets called limbo, right, like don't say anything until
you're you're good to go. I'm not saying good have
everybody cast. No, you don't have to do that. But like,
at least writer, we like these scripts. That's final. Director,
we like them. Producers, Okay, let's start casting. Boom, good
to go. Right. So the other thing for me is
it's interesting because if you look at episodes one to
three and then four to six, they all have the
same characters or themes, but they're they've never had the
same leads. So that's what puts a very interesting predicament
with the Ray situation, because my knee jerk reaction is like, well,
I'm disappointed if Ray is not the lead of these
because she's around, and like with four to six, they
did them so long that you know, the old the
original cast was older, the prequels, those were characters in
the past, so they you know, the gay they were
kids or not even born yet, the original actors in
the timeline. But this is the first time where if
you're doing a episode ten, you have an actress who's
even better than she was when she started. I think
majority of people, even if they did not like those movies,
they even if they had issues with the Ray character,
they like Daisy Ridley and we hopefully welcomed her to
come back. I think people want to see that. So
for me, if they say, hey, this is a trilogy
that's just off in the distance, but it's still after nine,
then I'm fine. If Rai's not in it, or even
the lead. If they do say it's ten to twelve
and Raise not the lead, that will rub me the
wrong way a little bit. It will feel kind of odd,
especially if there's Jedis around and now I know someone
might say like, oh, well, Ray's gonna own movie. It's like,
well is she? You know, like that's where it's like again,
if that's for sure, If if it's a perfect world
right and Kathy sits me down, she's like, I bet
on my life that you know next year will be
in production of both these things and they were to
come out, then I'd say, Okay, they're doing this Star
Wars episode ten without Ray, that's kind of odd. But
then she's doing her own movie, Okay, that's fine. Or
are they gonna take on like an Avengers approach now
where episode ten is gonna be like, hey, Ray has
her own movie, She's gonna be in ten, but she
won't be a main character, be ensemble. Like. I don't know,
because I still would want to see some of those
characters back, so it's it's interesting. Or I just wonder
is their case where that Ray movie dies and some
stuff just gets folded into this, you know, like they're
in such a topsy turvy type of mode. So I
feel like and with the writer, I I don't know,
I'd have to hear the pitch. I don't know how
I feel about them doing an episode ten for sure.
I think there might be one reason. It might just
be the almighty Dollar where I think you throw upsode ten.
I think that's like a guaranteed almost billion dollar movie,
the you know, eleven twelve, that all depends on ten.
But I think ten just gets that that marketing, And
like I said, you see the episode X and you
see the Lightsabers, Like there's so much stuff they could
do and talk about. It's a sequel of a new
saga and all this stuff. Like I think that still
brings that excitement, and that's the easiest thing for like
our parents or GA people to jump on of. Like, oh,
like a Mando movie. I haven't watched the show. It's like, oh, uh,
whatever ones are they talked about, like oh, James Mangled
making the first Jedi movie, Like, oh, that's kind of weird,
like it's ten thousand years, Like I don't know about that,
but if it's Star Wars episode ten, everyone knows what
that is, right, And it's like, oh, I've been following
the story. They're not paying attention when they're like this
end of the Skywalker in episode nine, no one cares.
They can have race Skywalker and ten they're Skywalkers, and
the GA would be like, oh, I'm happy that Star
Wars is back. Like to me, I know people don't
like to hear this, but like Star Wars and Skywalkers
are is pretty much the same thing. It's just like
the words are a bit different, but people associate those
two things. So yeah, I wish there was a better
writer attached. It is very hit or missed. But at
the same time, I think it's probably something that works
well in their system right and at least his work
with big blockbuster things. And that's why I said the
score that I hope he just if there's like a
substance juice lying around that has his skills from Days
of Future past, I hope he's overdosing on that because
I love Off, but I don't I there's also a
lot of misses on there, and it's a big And
that's where another thing too. If they say my last point,
if they say, hey, it's just a new trilogy like
the Ryan Johnson trilogy, then there's less pressure on it.
But if you tell me, hey, this is episode ten,
that's where it's like, Okay, you guys better come loaded.
Because that last trilogy, there's things I love in it,
and I think that I think it's a lot better
than people give it credit for. Obviously got very messy,
but at the same time, this is kind of like
your mulligan, right, You're we're gonna run it back, We're
gonna try again. Even though we said episode nine was
the end We're gonna try and do the saga or
a new saga again. And that's where I'm a little
less confident on him. So and Kevin Day says, Katain
Kennedy isn't going anywhere or I ain't going nowhere as
the president lose film, no matter what the audience wants.
I won't say for sure, because here's the scenario, Kevin.
I let's say this is episode ten, it comes out
in at fucking tanks critically and money. I think then
she'll be on her way out. But I think again,
as I said this war, Kathy will never be fired.
She will she will retire quotation marks and be gone.
But I do think that these next two movies have
a lot to do with what's next for her career
and if they hit and if they don't know because
Star Wars has been a mess. Indiana Jones lost them
a lot of money last year and she spent you know,
she was the main producer on that. So but yeah, ta,
what do you where's your rent now? With this?
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, it's just at this stage of the game, Uh, Like,
what's going on over there? I really really don't get it.
And we were talking about this in discord earlier, where
it's probably everyone is just pitching all these ideas to her,
and you know she's she's cashing in these checks and
she's just green lighting all these different things, but then
you don't deliver on them. Yes, now we talked about
you have like a one, two, three successes semantics.
Speaker 2: This is not green lights and development just just to
play some antics.
Speaker 3: But this trilogy, yes, I'll give you that. But there's
other projects too, Like they put out like a little
sizzle reel for Patty Jenkins doing Rogue Squadron and then
what we're gonna bring Ray or Daisy really out on
stage and announce like here's like three new logos for
the new Star Wars, like three stand out films were
doing and all this different stuff and here's a new
timeline all this era stuff and yeah, yaha, yaha.
Speaker 1: Like it just is.
Speaker 3: Mind boggling that she's getting away with doing all this shit,
like all these announcements and these it's I don't understand.
I don't understand how you can keep doing that. And yes,
you have a couple wins under your hat. You've put
out and you've given the step of approval on Yeah,
Mandalorian season one, two, three, and all these other shows
that they've done too, which are great, they're little victories,
but that one show, and that one victory does not
give you a full years worth of benefit to go
and cast a check in and just like sit, sit
down and pat yourself on the shoulder, like I feel
like you need to keep on producing and delivering and
working as a team, because I think that she has
these ideas coming to her, but she needs to stop
losing writers on this shit. It's brutal. And the fact
that Ray just lost her movies writer like a couple
of months last month, actually is just horrendous. Now, I
understand you mentioned too that this maybe this is just
what it's evolving into. They're working on the thing. Okay,
you know what, let's just do a new trilogy, let's
get Ray in there. We'll just have things kind of go.
And maybe that's why the writer left, because that's just
where things went. Maybe she's in the the throwing room.
She's in her fucking office and she's got all these.
Speaker 1: Other that's where.
Speaker 3: Spending the money in her own throwing room. She's got
all these suits in there, the shareholders, and they're like Kathy,
we need to make some fucking money here. My checks
are running low. And so she's like, okay, well, you know.
Speaker 2: You promised us with Indiana Jones. I just to correct,
I was. I don't think Mandalorian counts as a little win.
In my opinion, Mandalorian it was a big win that
helped launch Disney plus Grogu. The money on that.
Speaker 3: That was a good win, was also.
Speaker 2: A big wins next to Loki the most.
Speaker 3: When I say little wins, I mean like once a
year like that. That is in my interpretation of a
little win.
Speaker 2: Well, I got it if you just had one project
like the year that Mando came out, like other than
the Rise of Scott but even then, Rise of Skywalker
came out made a billion and then Mando came out.
Speaker 3: So like that's great, But then we're for Steam go.
Where did the steam go? After that?
Speaker 2: You're making a movie that you and uh is it you?
And didn't think it's gonna be a billion dollars.
Speaker 1: Or is it billion?
Speaker 2: Kirk Right, you guys say, Criteria, you're on the bandwagon
right in the.
Speaker 3: Mando movie Pizza bet Oh, I don't remember which side
I'm on.
Speaker 2: I'll pull it up.
Speaker 1: But if you your team one, Bill, I think I
might be on.
Speaker 3: Team I think so.
Speaker 2: So that's where the steam's going. It's going to a
billion dollar movie.
Speaker 3: All I'm saying is that when you go through all
the announced projects and all the that you are, I am, okay,
good good, I'm proud of that. I think that when
you just when you look at where we're at now,
all of the cancelations, all of the failed promises, and
all of the back and forth and misdirections, that's what
I'm sick and tired of. And I don't like having
an indecisive, incompetent check cashing lady up there who's just
like it's just she's she's bothering me, because I feel
like she needs to be focused on just not being
so indecisive. You have people presenting you with all these
ideas and sure, you know what, that sounds great, let's
do it. Let's do an announcement. Yeah yeah, YEAHA And
then you have that and then it's like, oh, you know,
we're not going to go through with that, We're just
going to move along to something else, and it's just
it loses its steam. And I really hate that. I don't.
I don't like these false empty promises. It's not great.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Yes, there are the odd little ones that we do get,
like yeah, Mando and Obi Wan and stuff like that
are very successful and they're great and whatnot. But even
you said, there's stuff in Mando season two, stuff in
Mendo season three, bookable bafets, So they're not two. They don't.
Speaker 2: Don't give me that two's almost perfect.
Speaker 3: Season two's almost perfect season.
Speaker 2: Don't try to throw me under the bus there. Yeah,
that's when Mando had the heat. It's not until season
three when they're bringing Lizzo and Jack Black and like
what's going on with Star Wars here? You know, like
that's not stuff I need going on here. So but
I I hope it's also what din't alluded to though,
like because they canceled, act like, I know people don't
like you know that they canceled. But still that's the
hope is maybe it is a sign of I guess
I'm I'm not gonna talk myself into that I'm saying
it's a sign of change. I guess I just can't
believe it till I actually see it. But that's the thing.
If when these films comes out and hits a billion.
Like that's why I do think if Mando hits a billion,
she won't go anywhere, because you can right off that.
Speaker 3: No, she will deem you know, she is not going anywhere.
And that's exactly right. They'll attribute it as her success.
And yeah she approved it, yead YadA YadA, and everything
she did, she absolutely did. She absolutely did.
Speaker 2: But it's still.
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: Not really shareholders, though they were, they were mad at
that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not the biggest viewers because.
Speaker 3: They released that on outside of Disney Plus too, didn't
they on the other platforms?
Speaker 2: Something they got there, they got their Emmys and stuff
like that.
Speaker 3: I it just bothers me how you can have someone
in a position of power who can steer it needs
to be a leader, steer the ship and kind of
pave the way forward to help provide and deliver and
support the team. But if you're dropping writers and directors
like this, that's not that's not a sign of good
leadership in my opinion. Like I read this quote today,
it was really good quote. It's like people don't quit jobs,
they quit bosses. But you know what, there's probably a
lot of truth to that, because I mean, if you're
dealing with bad leadership, but I'm sure they're at Disney
is probably riddled with some pretty bad leaders, you know,
seeing especially with Inside Out too and how a few
other bad practices are kind of I think all these
studios have that unfortunate too.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I heard that cry, he'd had
to pull it up, but like it's similar to video
game animator stuff. Were very bad environments for the animators
to be working and lots.
Speaker 1: Of the classic yeah, lots.
Speaker 2: Of mistreating them and making them work all these hours.
I think the pro was like, well they got paid
for it, but it was like this terrible working environments
and stuff. And that's where probably most of these companies
like that's where I give my hope of like the
Neons and the A twenty fours, that all those smaller
companies that can hopefully try to be that way because
it's not this big like you got to hit this
five billion thing or you know, someone's getting punished or
laid off.
Speaker 3: But I I just I defer to to Marvel. You know,
they they they set that goal, they set that standard
of what they were going to build towards right, it
was a long journey getting towards endgame, and I think, okay,
like if you're I think that's what Star Wars needs
at this point. I think they need to have something
that they're building towards. And Menual Grogu they they you know,
they as you said, Season three and book A Bofet,
they definitely hit some murky ground, but they've built towards it.
And I think that that's why I think the movie's
going to do a billion dollars, because they've established this
little mini universe and they've built all these connections and
relationships to these characters, and so I think that's where
we could really have it pay off. And I think
that's what they need to do on a little bit
of a larger scale. That's why, in my opinion, these sagas,
these trilogies tend to do well because you're building towards something,
something climactic. Of course, it doesn't mean that it's necessarily
going to be executed in the best of ways, because
the last trilogy it's definitely a little messy, but you
have some gold in there for sure. So I think
that's what they got to do here. I think they
need to come up with their not their end game,
maybe they're Infinity or something big that they can kind
of be striving towards, and then work at that and
just build towards a do like one movie here and
then wait two years, Okay, we got the sequel, another
two years and that bam, we got like the finale
here or something like that. So just something consistent and cohesive,
because when you think, oh, we're gonna do the Lando Show,
We're gonna do the Solo movie, We're gonna do Rogue
one and yeah, yeah, yeah, and then while some of
those maybe bangers, you definitely do have some that are
I don't know, it's just it's a one off, and
it's tricky because if you're trying to tell this story
with this character in an hour and a half, then
you can you can damage it like they did with
Han Solo by throwing again Maul into there into that
story at the end and all this stuff and having
characters they'll never be seen again unless it's like a
comic book or whatnot. So I think that it's just
you do a few movies building towards one climactic situation
or event. You get the time with the characters. You
get to build the relationship and you get to build
the popularity and the excitement a little bit more than
just announcing all these and them things, which Star Wars
should be able to do. But that ship is kind
of sailed, I guess.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I just I just don't know if it
can work like that, like the way you're describing about
the one big event thing, because like I feel like
then it does have to be ten and twelve. Then
it's like, well then are you just stuck making thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,
because I just don't. I know, Like they're both fictional,
but it feels something different when it's like with Marvel,
I guess, because there's multiverse and combook stuff and there's
all these stories where it's like, Okay, I can believe, Okay,
after Thanas is doctor Doom and after doctor Dumas, mag
need all this. But it's just it's like even that
last shrilld you went back to Palpatine, It's like, how
many more like Galaxy taking over big threats? Can we like,
what can we build up to again? Like that's a
problem Star Wars. The biggest thing already happened and happened
in eighty three. You know, like that's the thing where
it's like it's tough to I'm not saying remake or
reboot it. I think one day they will probably remake
Star Wars. But I think that's a I think that's
when we're in our elder years, when like that generation
almost died off, Like, you know, let's cast a new
Luke Skywalker. Let's cast a new lay and change it
up a little bit. I think it will happen, but yeah,
I don't know. But again, who knows if this will
even happen. Because at the same time, what Mike was
saying here probably end this off here says, you guys
think that they're very worried about releasing Stars that makes
under a billion after so long. I think it's a
little bit of that. I think one you should not.
I know that's probably what they all think, and that's
the mindset of it. I would imagine they should try
and put themselves in a position where the movie doesn't
have to make a billion. I think that's a terrible
gold pulse to have. I get it Rogue one and
the trilogy, but just make it that you can be
profitable and don't have to worry about like it, Like
that should not be the norm of Like if we
put out Mando and it's not a billion dollars, that's
a failure. You know. Granted we don't know what the
box office would be, but it shouldn't be that. But
I think it's also just the reception, because I feel
like they from it's from Solo, Last Jedi and Episode
nine and even some of the TV show. I think
for some reason, they're the most like scared big company.
I think they're just so worried, Like look at Ryan Johnson.
They right before Last Jedi. The scenario was he directs
Last Jedi. They loved it before it came out. They
loved it so much a Game's oone trilogy that we
went to make a billion dollars. In theory, you should
be like, well, that man should still get a trilogy
because he made us a billion dollars, right, But because
I think for them, it is more the reception than
the actual money. I think the money, of course is
always important, but I think they're just so scared about like,
oh what if these people don't like it? What if
this fan base? It's like he just kinda have to go,
like just pick something and go and if it doesn't work,
then move on next thing and go, Okay, that didn't work,
move on from there.
Speaker 3: And I think it's just that's what they did with Accolyte.
Basically they picked it, it's didn't work, so they've moved
on from.
Speaker 2: There, right, And that to me hopefully shows some sort
of not we have to stick with this now. Like
I said, I think if you announce we're doing a
sequel trilogy, you kind of have to stick with that.
That feel very odd for Star Wars to put on
episode ten doesn't work and they go, well, I guess
you're not gonna get episode eleven and twelve, Like I
would feel that's something you have to fully commit to,
and again they it would be successful. But that's where
I'm hoping it's not ten right now. Maybe you think
we're on a winning streak. I would, but I don't know.
Ten is. It's risky.
Speaker 3: So I wish that you know, Accolyte was done a
little bit better because that could have paved the way
to something if they did a season two and then
all of a sudden, we're getting a higher public movie. Uh,
with some crazy shit going on there in the theaters
like that would have just been a very cool dynamic.
But unfortunately that I think that era has been killed
for live action.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let's take your next AD break and we'll
move on and hopefully something happens. We'll see what happens come.
I think Star Wars cele rations next year. Samil will
get some updates, but really it doesn't matter till they're
role on cameras. We know this. It's like, whatever updates happened,
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which I forgot to do at the beginning, So we're
gonna do right now. I'm gonna start off with Sam.
He said, what's your hype level? Heretic I can't wait.
I think that because we're all here, I don't know
how high it is. I am excited to see it
once it's streaming. I think the movie looks good. I
just there's too many things to pick and like I
said the beginning, I have to try and find a
time to see a nore and that's taking the precedence.
But no, it's like a like a seven at ten
for hype levels.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm saying I'd watched that one at home, of course.
I love I love a movie where people are stuck
in a creepy guy's house.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Ye, it's a classic. It's it's a back to formula
that I'll take any day of the week, so I'm
into it. I like the performance from the guy that
I can't remember his name, but I think that yes,
and then the two other people I'm not sure what
their names are, but I don't know. It looks fun.
I'm into it, so I'll definitely check that one out
at some point to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought this one might be when you're sneaking
away too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one I man November. November is a
booked month, and to get to get like just between
movies and birthdays and stuff like that, just I'm limited
on sitter time. You know, that's bank time. And this
is what I really really wanted to see, but I
got to choose the time properly. I wanted to take
Madison to see this really really bad because I keep
seeing trailers pop up and I'm thinking, man, this just
looks like a really enticing story. I want to know
what's going on here. So it'll probably be one that
we don't get around to seeing until probably when it
comes out on DVD, not DVD, when it comes out
of streaming.
Speaker 2: So DVD is other than the Big Short. What's the
last time Madison brought you to a movie?
Speaker 3: When Madison brought me to a movie?
Speaker 2: Yeah, other than the Big Short, because you're like, oh,
this is what I really want to bring her to.
Speaker 3: And it's just the Big Short I'm always bringing her
to the movies. She's the Big Short. I think is
probably like the only movie she's actually brought me.
Speaker 2: To, and she just really likes the Big Short.
Speaker 3: Like you know, we're gonna have to ask her. I'll
have to ask her because I don't I don't know,
but I for my birthday this year, I think we're
gonna be doing if. Coincidentally enough, Back to the Future
is playing at Bernie's and I'm thinking, you know what,
I'd love to see that, So that might be what we.
Speaker 2: Uh last year, you thought you were seeing Napoleon and
then you saw the Big Shorts.
Speaker 3: I know that backfired.
Speaker 2: I don't know about that, but uh yeah, so maybe
you'll get our thoughts on it at some point. Uh,
let's see. Dalton Toler asked, when's the Daredevil retro happening?
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: The plan is hopefully I having the calendars, but the
plans for Taylor and Kirkland to review this every month,
so it'd start December, so you got episode December February
and or sorry, December January if we jump to mar
jumped a month there because it does release in March,
so you even if it's December thirty. First, you should
expect an episode, and if not, then I expect you to.
You can badge r Taylor and Kirklan the discord all
you want. I'll give them Your'll give you their phone numbers.
You can text them because they've been talking about this
retro for like three years. So, uh, it should be
by December. You should be getting the first episode. Taylor,
you start watching it yet?
Speaker 1: Uh no, but I will be.
Speaker 3: I've been gearing myself up to uh start popping off.
Speaker 1: To watch Herbie traveling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you watch? Yeah? And how do you
gear yourself up to watch it?
Speaker 3: Everyone else has gone to bed and I can just
put it on. But that's how you.
Speaker 1: Get out the billy clubs and you're living. Yeah, kind
of swing them around a little bit.
Speaker 2: They're making some sleep postion or something like that. Two
questions that were in patron but I ask right now.
Kim Day says, when do you think you'll get a
SOAKA season two? I think that's coming twenty twenty six.
I think we're far off there. And then Kim Day says,
do you think Gladier Too and Wick are going to
make money at the box office? And surprise, yes, I
think Ladier too. I think they're both. I think Wicked's
like tracking it like one hundred plus and I think
Gladier's are tracking it like sixty five. And if I'm
going by I did not think it would happen. But
if I'm going by Barbenheimer, which looks like this could
be like I'll say, a Benni version, I don't think
these films are gonna be as big, but if it's
similar to that, those films did better than projected. So yeah,
I was surprised by them both because I wasn't sure
if peop would care about Gladiator again without Russell Crowe.
And I didn't know if people would care about Wicked
and the musical element, even though I don't think they
have to show it that much. So I'm surprised. But
supposedly they are tracking well, so I think they're gonna
make money.
Speaker 1: So same, Yeah, And I'm happy because.
Speaker 2: I have Wicked, and if Wicking can do well, that's
the final nail the coffin for mister muss here. If
Wicked bombs, that's where I'm a little I'm a little iffy,
you know, So Supert Mike, he's excited for Wicked hater. Yeah,
he's doing the double feature, so happy and last one there.
Do you think one or two make a billion is
tracking more than Inside Out? I think so because it's
so close to Christmas. I think that's a big I
know Lion King's out, but I just feel like, am
I wrong in the scenario? Do you guys think of
families walk out and you got Lion King playing and
ma Wantitude playing? I just feel like, did you do
wanted to?
Speaker 1: Linking?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 1: It's like move faster story, like no one cares about
that so and.
Speaker 2: That's what I mean. I just feel like, oh moaned two,
Like I like the rock, I like the first one.
I just feel like that's the easy one. It's either
malanitu or a nus raw to you know.
Speaker 1: I don't think ma Wana is gonna do a billion.
I think it's gonna, oh.
Speaker 2: Really to perform a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, not tremendously, but yeah, it's not gonna have
the juice of the first one, okay, Taylor oh Molana.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like there hasn't been a that's amount
of hype for.
Speaker 2: I guess not seeing the discord. It has better pre
sales Inside Out too, when that's the biggest anime movie
all time.
Speaker 3: Like, I think it's I missed that in discord.
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's it's cooking that hype.
I just think you don't. You're not around the six
and seven year olds. My kids are, My kids are.
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 2: That is true, that's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Halloween was walking around the streets and there everywhere.
Speaker 2: But you gotta ask what we wanted to next next year,
ask what we wanted to Yeah, yeah, should have a
billion tai because this is free range. Because none of
us got.
Speaker 3: It'll make a billion. It'll make a billion, yea. God
damn drafted it.
Speaker 2: Well, we couldn't. It wasn't a movie when we did
the draft. Remember it was a Disney plush thing and
then they turned.
Speaker 3: It into all those fuckers.
Speaker 2: So we didn't get that. Yeah, so uh let's see
here and then uh, Mike, we're gonna answer your question
after the mass effects stuff, and then Dalton Toy's last question,
a question I'm sure you've all answered a lot of times.
If I hadn't heard, was the g versus origin. So
we can give a trunk had version. Let's see if
you can explain.
Speaker 1: It Taylor was enthused when this popped up in our chat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got geeks happened. Let's see if he gets wrong.
Speaker 3: Oh, I remember, I remember meeting you in the back
room of Target.
Speaker 1: I remember meeting the warehouse. It's not like some secret sex.
Speaker 2: Dylan's back room.
Speaker 3: I remember you invited me over to play a small
little smash journey you had to celebrate on the WIU
the new Smash in your place. Yeah, that was pretty cool.
I remember meeting Travis. I think this was when Target
was announced that things were going to start winding down.
I talked to you the odd time through presentation, but
I think when things are winding down, I remember we
were all in one of the aisles. I think it
was maybe near the towel section, and we were talking
about movies and comic book stuff like that. I think
Spider Man three was up for discussion there. Yeah, great time,
Great time.
Speaker 2: You mean because Kirkle only worked at that point, like
maybe once twice a week, Like he was very casual.
But I think you guys were doing it was you
were very close to the electronics section because that's where
I worked at the top of electronics.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's yeah, came up. That's where I met
Kirkland too, because he started on Flow team in the
back and I remember Vance set me up to work
in the age.
Speaker 2: To be clear, we all worked at Target. I don't
think we ever said that we all.
Speaker 1: Were Canada when it exists. For about a year and
a half. In that window of time, the stars aligned.
Speaker 3: Exactly, which is crazy. Yeah, kirkl I met and we
were working electronics together, putting stuff away in the morning,
and that was great because we were talking about alien isolation.
Speaker 2: Nothing's changed, We're talking about hell last and I tried
to talk to him out they wouldn't talk to.
Speaker 3: Me, and that's I can't remember the Dying Light. We
talked a lot about Dying Light right there, many many
a time past talking about all that. And so after that, well,
we you held a party, Travis, and there was a
bunch of us, but that's the tart. It's Target closing party.
And then some of us still were in communication through
one of those Facebook group chats, and that's where you
three had popped off. Well, we're all talking about it,
and then it's like, hey, let's maybe just try doing
a podcast, and I think a joke in itself.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess you can say it was joke. You
were the first one to say that about doing something
and then we all go one that. But I don't
even know how because the group chat was us three,
Kirkland and Jessica, and I don't even know how that
like five. I guess maybe it's just we talked the
most together at Target at that time. But I don't
even know like who started that or how that became
a thing, because like I said, I did hell the party,
and I did have other friends at Target that like
were there invited, so it wasn't just like oh, me
and the four of you guys, like there was other
people there. But I, like, I don't remember how we
got to like the Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wonder who made that group.
Speaker 2: Chat that's five. Yeah, I'm not sure you'd have to
scroll back long time scroll. Yeah, But no, you were
the one that suggested it because we, funny enough had
the idea right after E three, not like for where
because we were just pulling off. I think the really
impetus was because that was the year Nintendo had a
really bad conference, and I think we were all just like,
oh man, what do they doing? And we were all
big Nintendo fans. I feel like that's something probably other
than Kirkland, who thought Nintendo was stupid mostly overall, like
some of it was mean, but some of it wasn't,
especially the switch. He was never on board for a while,
but we were big Nintendo fans, so I think we
were just so disappointed. I think there's many just group texts,
and that's where I think you just always just talk
and do a podcast. I remember it was you and
then yeah, and then we started looking into and we
looked into libs and all that stuff. But yeah, it
is crazy to think that it just kind of happened.
It was the Puppet E three as it was that
because you can hear about it. We talk about it.
I don't think we tell about the creation. But on
our very first episode, I can't remember. It might be
Dylan's because the first episode was every we did half
year mark and it was what was your favorite thing
in the year and what was your sass thing of
the year, And mine was like for content, not like life,
and mine was Hannibal. So I didn't bring it up,
So it's either Dylan. I feel like it was Dylan
that brought up the Nintendo E three is like your
disappointment of the year saying okay, and I think, yeah,
go back, the episode's there. The audio is probably gonna
be fucking awful because we were in Dylan's basement and yeah,
that's that's what happened.
Speaker 1: Now we're we have one mic that would be on
a bench on top of a Wii. Yeah, and then
we'd all sit around that, uh in very different time,
you know, we'd be rocking our pj's. It'd be very
different because there was no camera quite some time. And
it's funny. I was just laughing about that when we
have the intro that plays on the YouTube version if
you watch there, Like those clips are also old, Like
we don't have any new clips in there. It's all
from the old basement days and the variety of basements
that we recorded in.
Speaker 2: I think for the eleventh year, I want to make
a new opening. But at the same time, it's like
mostly clips are just like us in these squares. You know,
it's not you.
Speaker 1: Can see the Wii on the under the mic and
almost all those shots. That's it was part of the
identity for some reason.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, it's crazy, like even just thinking about
like how we all end up at like I I
was at best Buy and I left best Buy because
I got a job at Tellus, and then that felt through.
They laid off a bunch of people and just like oh, yeah,
you don't have a job anymore. I never worked there
and they were a terrible company, because I remember they
they didn't tell me for like weeks. I just thought
I had a job, and then I this person like, yeah,
could me call? And I called them like every second day.
Nothing to vent buy.
Speaker 3: Good things, like it's all good. I got a job.
Start spending money.
Speaker 2: You don't know I did. I remember, I was not
happy when I was off. I think I bought. Uh
maybe it wasn't. I can't remember. There was some big
purchases I did make, but I thought I had h
Does that a breath of while that came out? No,
that was further in the podcast that, but it was, yeah,
there's something like that where I did buy because I
did think, yeah, I had a job, and they said
you're hired, and tell Us was paying better than I
was where I was working at that time, and then
it's like, oh, yeah, no, it's not happening. So I
ended up a targeting like a flukecause then I went
back to best Buy and they're like, oh, you feel
we filled your position and like you could do this.
And I had a you know, a falling out with
one of my bosses, which is all good now because
we got back together and I went back to Target. He's, uh,
he's a good guy overall at the end of the day.
But I end up I targeted like a fluke because
I was like, well, I just need a job, and
I got part time there. So like literally, if Tels
didn't lay off a bunch of people and on hire me,
I would we this might have never started, or maybe
it'd be you four and not me or you three,
But like I wouldn't have been a part of that
because I was, yeah, it's a mistake that I stumbled
into Target.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Emily said, it was sorry, tell us you're great everything.
It was Shaw. Yeah, they were. They were very I'm
sure they're great now, but they are very unpleasant of.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I remember my first uh my training day
at Target was with Jessica. We both got hired on
the same time, and so I remember I met her
like immediately, and then Taylor and Kirkland we like, we
weren't in the same department, but we had there was
enough cross over there, so I'd bumping you guys all
the time. I didn't even know Travis until Target was
well and doing at that point. But I remember there
was a Laser Tag night and I drove Travis home
because he yes, lived on the way home. That was
like the first time we ever spoke was me driving
home from Laser Tag. That's when we hit it off.
And then uh yeah everyone else. I was pretty close
to the rest of you at that point, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, Dylan was very nice because I was gonna
bust at home and they asked where I lived and
brought me there, and then uh yeah, and then I
think after that.
Speaker 1: I stood out the window for hours.
Speaker 3: You never left.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dylan nicely offered when we worked the same ship
because he knew we work in the same way, and
that always saved me time because I was in the
in the area we lived. So yeah, no, that's that's
the origin stories. And I used to always go over again.
But yeah, Dulton, that's how we uh the fact.
Speaker 1: That you can remember that there was a meeting near
the towel section, Taylor, that's the kind of specific detail
that you love to see. I would never remember something
like that.
Speaker 3: I just remember. I remember that, and I remember us
talking Spider Man three and the Venom and that and
the scene it might have been the Alleyway scene that
we're talking about.
Speaker 2: I think it was. Yeah. I don't know why, but yeah.
And even though like I laugh, I'm even surprised Kirkland
kind of got into this thing because you Kirkland said himself,
like he's mature and changed so much as a podcast,
he's so much more outgoing and he's more personal. You
can listen those first two years, those first years, he's
in the room, but like, you know, is he in
the room? I don't know, you know, like it's one
of those things like he'll he'll talk when he's poken to,
and he's smitted that freely. But that's why I wonder,
how do how do we? How did he get roped
into this? Because I think he was the one I
knew the least when the podcast started, but I liked
Kirkland said, oh yeah, cool, like that works. There's five
of us. But it was one of these things where
and he I guess technically right, he's not on the
first episode because he uh, he's remember he is still
a member. Yeah, and he did leave for a bit,
but yeah, I know that was and he was constantly late, so.
Speaker 1: I remember, don't you remember that he was here, he
wouldn't be getting dragged, but you know, you gotta drag him.
Speaker 2: Oh, I would drag him that first year. He was
late all the time. We were always waiting for him.
Like everybody's late here or there, but Kirklin was always late,
and especially like, you know, I get it because he's
on the West side though, so I should I shouldn't
bad Mathru much, but yeah, it's true. But anyways, let's
get back to some of these topics. Today, rumor came
up from like a sea tier and then a C
plus tier, so it started cooking firing up a little
bit off. See Mario, I saw you asking earlier, so
we're gonna talk about this now. You had a question,
so we'll answer that. But this week is the Penguin finale,
so make sure you go and watch that. Today, I
once again was watching The Batman them like, because I'm
just obsessed with that movie and just score. But it
did make me realize, Man, I need to get some
better blinds where I live because I couldn't see fucking shit.
I was happy. I've been telling Emily for the whole
time I lived here that we need better blinds to
Oh it's fine Batman. It's like I can't see pass
and I know he's there because I can hear him grunting,
but I can't see shit. But today there's a rumor
that the next show, because Matt Reeves confirmed their Domore shows,
the next show is supposed we get be starring Barry
Kyogan as the Joker. It is rumored to be taking
place in between Batman two and three. The rumors scuttle
budd Is right now that he will have a small
role in Batman two. So I had hope it would
be bigger than Batman one, but it's probably at least
that size. And then he's supposed to be the villain
of Batman three, So Tam, we have to Throwty first
Offesly Penguin. Like. There's been lots of good buzz on it,
lots of people saying, it's, you know, top tier, it's
in that top echelon of combook shows. How would you
feel if Joker was next on the van wagon? Because
obviously big character, great actor, but you know, we just
had a bomb movie, so I think it's a little
bit different because it's different iterations, but still it's maybe
not a runaway hit. Maybe are people in two years
gonna be like, oh fuck, like another Joker thing? Like
do I need this? But what's your read on this?
If we were to get an eight episode Joker show
out of the Penguin.
Speaker 3: I think that's you just took towards my mouth and
you said it then and there. I think that's why
we're getting this news on Joker and give me begetting
a project because of that movie, fully adia, And I
think that they want to now kind of cast it
into the fire. They want to turn it around, and
I think they destroy it, destroy exactly. I think they
really want to just put a new spotlight on on
there right now. And of course you have Penguin that's
just an absolute banger of a show, best one of
the best shows this year, if not the best show.
So I think that if you have that kind of
team and the momentum, throw that on a Joker and
then get some get some light ship onto that character
a little bit more. Because people are not people aren't
big on the movie get some light shed onto that character.
Speaker 2: That's what I heard.
Speaker 1: Shed Are you saying light shed light?
Speaker 2: Yeah, shed on shedd Yeah, I heard heard light Ship.
Speaker 3: I hope not. I hope not. There's like there's there's
some older people at my work that don't strike me
as like the like the like consistent, like go to movies.
But yeah, but they I hear. I not that I'm eavesdropping,
but I'm kind of eavesdropping because either.
Speaker 2: Drop but long ten years.
Speaker 3: So they're talking about Joker too and that that they're saying, like, oh,
I just found it was it was a musical. I
was watching. It was like it was a fucking musical.
And so we.
Speaker 2: Talked about in the discord because I can't remember who
I apologize who brought this up in the discord. I
can't remember if it was calling or somebody it was.
Maybe it was k I know, I think it was
Kyle Goldface because I always want to say gold Face.
I'm like, who's that, right, Kyle? He brought up that
he had someone the same thing, like it's a musical,
and like every time this movie comes up in a
new conversation, it is like yeah, and can you believe
they made a musical. It's like, man, the people really
didn't fucking know there were songs in this thing. It's
it's crazy. Everybody's like, oh my brother, my, you know, sister,
like you said, your workers every time is again, they
didn't know. It's fucking crawm.
Speaker 3: It's it's nuts. He The interesting thing he says is
that if you were to skip past the musical parts,
it would actually not be that bad of a movie.
Like he thought the actors did a good job, Like, okay,
well that's one way of putting.
Speaker 2: It, but if we were just talking acting, I don't
agree that's okay.
Speaker 3: I I I at its core, well, I like Lady Gaga,
and I liked Joaquin Phoenix's acting portrayals of those characters.
I think that, yes, the movie definitely does not have
enough steam. I mean, look at how fast it was
announced coming to be dropping on vod right like they
were just seemingly after it started to bomb, they wander
just kind of put it into the uh you know,
into the the the box and kind of lock it
up thrown in the attic. So I feel like this
is absolutely no strange coincidence here. They want to just
get some attention brought onto this this Joker that they
I mean, it could be like they're kind of their
saving grace I guess to kind of just save this
character and just kind of like bring in some more excitement,
because after after that movie, I don't think you're gonna
have a lot of people thinking like, oh, I'm sick
and tired of Joker. I think you can have a
lot of people like, man, I'd really love to see
a good Joker, and I know I would. I'd like
to see a Joker that's more in line with my God,
thank you with Leger show for just that insanity, not
not the uh Jared Letto one or anything like that.
But it's just kind of is funny when you think
about we kind of go on this up and down
trajectory where we got your soul Ledger, and then we
got we got Jared Leto and then we go up
with Woking Phoenix, and then we go back down with
Woking Phoenix, and then we go back up with Barry.
So it's just funny how it's this little roller coaster.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna bring that up. It's funny that
we're in this this like good Joker bad Joker sort
of scenario where the audience is very happy and then
they're very unhappy. So it's hopeful. Now the trajectory should
be that Barry would go up. And I got all
the faith in Barry because they got to be one
of the best working actors and Trump.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just trust like Reeves, like with Penguin
the Batman, like I I can trust at the bare minimum,
this will be a seven out of ten, you know.
I guess at the same time I would have trusted
Phoenix and Company. But now, at least with with Reeves,
I got two things right. I got a three hour
movie and then an eight hour show, So it's like, okay,
there's a lot of proof in the pudding.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I have no notes on this, like this
is a rumor, not an announcement. It's like that sounds
like a fantastic idea because Penguin come out. I was
always kind of like, really, Penguin has a character, making
a show on that, and it's been huge, people love it,
receptions there, numbers are there. It seems like, so, yeah,
take an even bigger character, and I don't know if
he's a bigger actor, but at least, I feel like
you take the prosthetics away, and maybe it's more recognizable
actor when you're just seeing it scrolling through like a
streaming service or wherever you're watching it. So yeah, I
think it's a fantastic idea. It makes a lot of sense.
Curious to see how that one will connect with the
movie because I have to imagine that he's gonna be
a much bigger part of that movie than Penguin was
a part of the first batmanah So in terms of
like is this gonna be required reading, is this gonna
be something you would watch and then you gotta watch
the show and then you go into the third movie, Like,
I'm curious to see how they line that all up,
because it seems like this is gonna be a more
influential character than Penguin, who was definitely more of a
a side piece at the time. But yeah, yeah, I
think this the show is going to do really great.
I'm I don't know if there's like, if we can
get really specific. Obviously there's like superhero fatigue people talk about,
is there gonna be Joker fatigue at some point? Like
it feels like we've got a lot of different Jokers,
and we still haven't seen how Barry is gonna play
this character, right, We've got like one rinky dink little scene.
Uh so it's we don't even know yet, Like Tonally,
I guess we can assume based on what the Batman
is and how dark the.
Speaker 2: Scene that I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, sure you get the deleated scene. It's for
the you know, ten people who have seen have seen that.
But yeah, at least there is maybe a little bit
more evidence of what he's going to be like. But
I don't think it's that surprising, right, It's like it
very much fits in the vibe with the rest of
the Reeves vibe there, and then the Penguin show, which
I haven't seen yet but I imagine is very similar in
tone and all that. So yeah, I mean, I think
this is gonna be a hit for sure, and I
guess it's not something they've really done before, right, like
a Joker TV show.
Speaker 2: But they never called him Poker. It's one of these
things where it's like they dull don't He's always some
rinky dink like way around it and stuff. But uh yeah,
like the point Road, it's gonna be interesting because like obviously,
like with you not watching Penguin, the way we describe
Penguin is how I've always described Winter Soldier and or
sorry Falcon Winter Soldier, where it's like you can watch
it and get a better understanding of what Sam is
gonna be like as Captain America. But if you're just
a GA member, you could just skip it because you
see him get the shield endgame, and then they made
a Captain America. We right, you could just assume, okay,
he was Captain America. That just adds some flavors. So
the same thing with peng when he's gonna have be
be more powerful in the Batman and this is just
showing that. But if you just were to watch Batman
and Batman too, you would just assume, like, Okay, a
lot of mobsters die, Batman won, and Penguin rose up.
Like I don't have to know, you don't have to
watch the show. It's more character stuff, and especially last
episode with them getting into like my I suppose, but
they got like into Penguin when he was a child,
and they added lots of layers to that character. And
what I've always been fascinated because I don't think Matt
Reeves does anything on accident. When they had asked him
about Barry and what like makes his Joker different, he like, like,
I'm gonna make it sound like a very just like emo,
tryhard type and answer. But he's like, well, when ever
since the Joker has been born, his life's been a
joke because like he came out disfigured, so everyone's treated
him in a certain way where he kind of had
to find this personality just to get through life because
he was just deemed as like an ugly mon like
monstrosity person so he was cast out from society and
like I said, go find the quote he said an interview.
But when Matt Reeves said all this, I'm like, Okay,
he clearly already has the backstory for his Joker. It's
not like, oh, let's uh, we're doing a badfel. Let's
let's just put Joker in there. People like him, you know,
good Camo. It's like clearly he and even said he's
like who He even told Barry when he got the role.
He said he sat him down, he said, I want
you for this role. You may never ever play this
character again, but let's take a shot and see what happens.
But I think the way Reeves speaks, like okay, he
knows what his Joker is, and the way he describes it,
I'm like, man to get these flashbacks in this show
could be it's against it could be heartbreaking, but it's
tough because you don't That's the thing now with Joker
is you don't want to go that route per se
because we just kind of got that with Phoenix in
a sense right where it was the guy cast out
from society. They showed okay, he became a psychotic person,
but there's a lot of steps that got him there
and he could have got help. That's where and he's
even said it's like how do you make a difference,
So it's it's tough of like how much you want
to tell. And even with this one, like you said, Dylan,
it's like with Penguin, you can easily avoid Batman with
this they established in that deleted scene. It is deleted,
but they established that Batman's the one that caught him.
So I feel like I'm not saying Passon has to
be in the show, but if one required Batman more
than another, I feel like Joker does, like whether even
just to tell that story a little bit, like I
feel like it's it's strange and it's also another thing
that's strange too. A funny way to think about this is, obviously,
I guess, let's say all the movies are three hours,
so we get nine hours of the Batman. But it's
funny like Penguin already now has more screen time than
Pattison does and passes Batman, right, But because Penguin is
like not Disney, plus it's HBO like their full hour episodes,
you're getting all his backstory on just the Penguin, you know,
And it's gonna be kind of funny to think. Same
thing with Joker. But I think why I'm the most
fan of this, like one, okay, yeah, I love Joker,
of course, but like the two reasons One Barry, I
think I just want to see him sink his teeth
and to know how you got eight episodes. But because
in Batman one he had a scene and in Batman too,
it sounds like he's gonna be very minor for him
to be in Batman three, This I think kind of
makes up for that because you're like, oh, like I
think for the GA they'll just do Batman three. Batman
on a poster Joker or poster sold. I've said this before.
I know people sometimes that are stic of the Joker.
Batman and Joker have not been to movie since two
thousand and eight. That's how long it's been, Like I know,
because we've got so many versions, but they've not been
on screen. I'm not counting Justice League because Ben Affleck
and Jared Leto didn't even film again either. That day.
They filmed with doubles and they shot that. They cut
the scenes together, like for them on screen interacting fighting,
oh eight, Like we're almost on two decades of them
being in a movie together. It's kind of nuts. So
that's where I think there's lots of room for that,
and the GA will just go, oh, it's Batman and
Joker perfect. But for me, having a show that builds
up Joker before the finat like the final battle and
Matt Reeves is such an I'm to be Batman fan boy.
I love it because the most popular pitch after your holms, like, well,
what I really want them to do is don't touch
Joker until the third one. You know, many posts I
would see when I was in those forums back in
the day of like save Joker for the third one,
and that, like, I just love the rumor. It's like, well,
the main villain of Batman three is going to be
the Joker. Like, oh, Matt Reeves was in those forms.
I know it. Man, he he He's just like Opera
and I love it. He operates like a Batman fan boy,
Like even watched the movie again. So yeah, I'm all
excited to answer Mario. He asked, why don't they make
a Batman show instead of spin off to Batman without Batman.
I think just the easy clearcut answers. Batman is a
billion dollar property, and obviously the bat the Batman didn't
do that, but just overall, so I feel like I
think they and I agree to extent that if Batman,
if they just a show called the Batman, I think,
now all that money that they make all those movies
kind of maybe disappears, or that amount disappears, right, I think,
And I think that's even the reason worry why he
might not be in Penguin and Joker. They might worry,
like Batman still has never been on TV live action
really like there's been a little hints of it, but
like in Smallville, they weren't allowed to use him and Titans.
He was very shadowed, like they keep Batman very like
cloaked away. Even in Gotham, he didn't get the suit
to the very the last Shaw that shows him the
suit and then the show ends, you know, like it's that.
That's what they do. They they don't want Batman on TV,
but I think they're just worried that if they put
him on TV, people won't pay for him, you know.
Speaker 1: So interesting not trying to devalue him. Yes, potentially a
little fear there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see, we got a couple here, uh, and
now we'll get some carpenter on the soundtrack. I hope not.
I saw a lot of people being like, oh, they're
gonna cast her as a Harley. Now. I don't think
we need to go that route. Let's let's I think
Harley and him can stay apart for a while and
we'll see, right. Yeah, they called him Jerome on Gotham.
And then there was Jeremiah, his twin brother, who also
became a joker type of character. Sam says, Barry puts
on one hundred and ten percent and everything he does.
I just can't see his version being anything other than amazing.
I agree there, and especially I feel pre salt Burn,
this show maybe has a little less juice. But after
salt Burn, and I'm sure some other things will come out.
I feel like just even, like you said, Dylan, like
even he looks a bit more like Barry, Like, I
feel like people will be more excited because oh it's Barry,
and I think he's starting to build up that that
profile being a star and everything. So yeah, no, I'm excited.
I hope this happens. I can't wait. I want Selena
because I didn't know if Joker was on the table.
And this kind of tracks to at one point Reeves
was working on like an Arkham Asylum show, just like
the Ray and the Star Wars trilogy. I get see
you kind of folding those two together of like, hey,
what I was doing with Arkham stuff, let's put that
in the Joker Show. And they did, Like that's a
highlight of that show is there's one episode Doling where
they do go to Arkham and it's it's mighty fine.
It's a very scary place. So but yeah, we'll see
what happens there. So all right, I'm gonna round off
all these movies and shows, and you guys can decide
what talk about. You might need to proll up the
details on the stream and if you forget any but
here you go, all right. Movies and TV shows that
are in the worker have been announced Mass Effect Amazon
show which has come out today. Agent Venom is supposedly
in the works at Sony. That's with Flash Thompson. He
becomes a military guy. He goes to war, loses his legs,
gets the symbiote, and the symbiote like gives them his
legs back and he becomes like an ass kicker. But
he stays in the suit too long. He's he's stuck
that way. There's three live action, three live action lego
movies in the works over there. Patty Jenks is doing
one of them, so I can give you the full
rundown after Ridley Scott revealed that he's producing a new
alien film. Disney is making a live action Prince Charming
movie with Chris Hemsworth and supposedly dead Daisy Edgar Jones
that was rumored today. And there's a Game of Thrones
movie in the works. There's an Outlast movie, and God's
All Minus one is getting a sequel Taylor, You don't
gotta tell about all those, but what do you think
about any of these? A lot of stuff getting announced
last week and this week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of stuff. The Lego movies. I
really did think that that Lego Ninjago movie was gonna
be the last one that we got. I think people
kind of forget that we had that one, especially after
the success of the Lego movie Lego Batman and the
Lego Movie two. I've seen the trailer for that par
Williams Lego project. That looks like a lot of fun.
It's a really neat take. Is this included? Is that
included in the three movies?
Speaker 2: No, this is three other ones. And remember though those
are animated, these are live action Lego movies.
Speaker 3: The other one, well, the first Lego movies kind of
live action, right, because yah, will Farell.
Speaker 2: I guess like I wouldn't put that as like I wouldn't.
It's tough because it does have live action stuff. I
wouldn't CLASSFIY as like a live action movie. But you're
not wrong.
Speaker 3: So I would love it if we got I mean,
it wouldn't happen but throw some bionicles in there, of course. Yeah,
So I'm very much looking forward to that. I'm very excited.
Age and Venom color me interested. I am very excited
to see what we got going on there. I think
that's a lot of fun mass Effect TV show. I've
never been one to actually play the mass Effect games.
It's always been on my list, but I've never played them.
I remember my friends were always excited for them in
high school, but I was always just at the time
playing Halo. That was kind of my my spacey age
game at the time. But I think doing a TV
show is great because well, I don't know a lot
about the story. Doing a show kind of like just
the Fallout situation would help me kind of get familiar
with that universe, understand what's going on. So I think
that's awesome. Maybe Amazon should take Assassin's Creed wile they're
at it, because Netflix is doing fuck all with that.
Speaker 2: That's quiet on that front. I was like thirty years ago. Now, yeah, very.
Speaker 3: Quiet Ridley Scott producing an Alien movie. I am interested,
very interested, just because of the success that we've gotten
with Alien and Preda right now, and again, I'm excited
to read more of those Avengers Versus Alien comics because
I shared you share with you an interesting little thing
from that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's this spicy stuff go on. I'm excited. I
beture those next year when Predator comes out, we'll read those.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Prince Charming, I mean, Chris Hemsworth, you are, I mean,
he can do anything, he's a he's a great guy.
Speaker 2: I think that's a good idea, though, like a lot
do you think that'sss If they sit you down, Taylor
and Disney's budgeting, they're you know, not Marvel Stars. Disney
is looking at their live action moves anime moves for
the year, and they say, okay, tape, we want to
make a live action Prince Charming.
Speaker 3: They don't need to do this.
Speaker 2: Okay, That's what I was curious. I don't even know
if I agree, because like I haven't really too much
thought too. I just thought like, hmm, like that's a
that's an aw one. Also because like Hempsworth, oven Thor
doesn't like have big movies, So it's not like I
don't know, I'd understand if it was like Timothy charleomet
or like even running gloss and come up a Barbie,
But it's not like Hempsworth is like, man, this makes
this an automatic hit.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, it's it's not an automatic hit. To me,
it just feels like it's in the same category as
Snow White and The Huntsman, Winter's War, whatever it is.
Speaker 2: What about this there? How do you even make a
Lego live action movie? Feels like a linking situation.
Speaker 1: You make a Minecraft live action movie.
Speaker 2: M Oh yeah, I guess you're not wrong. I guess
it's just kind of sonic esque where there's a lot
of live action actors, but there's a lot of CGI
around and yeah, three of them.
Speaker 3: Game of Thrones movie. I'm always down for more Game
of Thrones. I am still riding that high of House
the Dragon Season two, Fantastic Show, Fantastic Outlast.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to get back in there. We've got
to go back to the Asylum, all of us four
together and just indulge because I I that world is
just so terrifying and actually get a movie centric or
centered around that is very, very freaky to think about.
I'd love to be in a theater just experiencing that. Yeah,
just terrifying, just.
Speaker 2: To talk about on side quest because yeah, it's the
same thing I've been jones and for that, because I
was during Halloween. I think we're just all busy, and
then with this announcement, I'd like to do a couple
more Asylum runs here soon.
Speaker 3: So absolutely, Uh, Godzilla minus one sequel, Yeah, this is
interesting and I'm curious what that story will entail. I
really really don't know at this point, just with how
that first movie ended, But the idea that this guy
will get another shot at a another gods movie and
have an even bigger budget is exstatic. Like it makes
me super super stoked because there was that little budget
that first one had, and how he was able to
just capture the scale and the depth and just the
fear and the terror from Godzilla in that movie was great.
So I'm I'm all there, and I'm so happy to
see him kind of take on like another Godzilla project.
Because we don't know if it is a sequel. I'm
one hundred percent assuming it is a sequel. I don't
think it's anything else. Maybe it maybe would be a
follow up to win guards Godzilla movie, but I don't
think that they're doing him dirty like that.
Speaker 2: So Taylor doesn't remember this, but I remember telling him like, oh,
I'm sure with the success of this one was a
big success to make a sequence. Oh no, no, they
wouldn't make a direct sequel. I think so, I'm pretty sure,
and I feel like they were going to do that here,
and Taylor was really liking my pitches of where the
story was going to go. But you gotta it's the
first movie was about nuclear war. I think you got
to cover the aftermath of nuclear war like it's a
very because then you never saw my s one, right,
yeah did. It's like it's a god Zel movie, but
like it's a it's a war movie, and there's multiple
stretches where God's like the plot has nothing to do
about Godzilla and it's just about like PTSD and it's
like it's a very well done, like more dramatic movie.
Since I just feel like they're gonna go that route
of talking about the aftermath of a nuclear war and
what it can cause and somebody plus you know that lady.
I'm telling you, they're gonna they're gonna do something with
that lady. She was shining. So they didn't do that.
They I just feel like nowadays you don't put like
a little end credit, or your movie doesn't end in
a way where it's like open book and like we're
gonna leave it there. You know, most people do something,
so what about you doing? And he's flowing your boats?
Three live action lego movies.
Speaker 1: I'll skip past that one. I don't know if I've
much to see what those trailers look like when they
come to be. I'll be very predictable here and talk
about the two video game ones. Uh Outlast. Yeah, if
you've listened to side Quest this year, and you know,
I've played through that entire trilogy this year, so I'm
very prepped and ready for that, And yeah, I think
there's a lot of potential there. I really am curious
to see what they do with the found footage element
of it, or like even just the first person element
of it with the camera. And you know, a big
part of those games is about the darkness and like
conserving your batteries, and so I don't know, I'd be
curious to see how they translate some mechanics like that.
They very well could just avoid all that stuff and
just make it a generic horror movie in in a
sane asylum, but even that is set for some fun
stuff and there's some crazy things that happen, like in
the end of that game too. So curious to see
if they go all the way there or if they
just kind of make it a more simplified thing. And
then I also be curious to see how they implement
a story element to that, because a lot of the
lore or intrigue of that game comes or like the
first one in particular, it comes from like walking around
the asylum, seeing a note on the ground, reading the note,
and that's kind of how you get most of the
story given to you. Other than that, it's just like
maybe a set piece moment where there's a villain guy
yelling at you, but it's it's pretty constrained until like
I would say, the very end, so like and they
could even switch it up and have like multiple characters
rather than just like one guy going to this place.
But I'm really curious to see what that looks like
and curious who they get is like writer, director, all
that kind of stuff. But I'm excited for that one.
I think that's cool, And then for mass effects. So
this is a big blind spot for me gaming wise,
And you know, I've had the time, I've had the
bend with it's on game pass. It's there. It's just
never really appealed to me the mass Effect games, and
so this is honestly perfect for me. It's the same
way that Last of Us. I've tried to start that
game one hundred times and I just hate the gameplay.
Like not that I think I would hate massive gameplay,
but it's like I want to get more into that world,
get to know those characters better, but I don't think
I want to put the time and effort it takes
to play through that game. And so I'm cool this.
This is great for me. This seems like a great
way to get that story across from me. So I'm
into it. And I think Amazon is a good pick
based on on the things they're doing right now. I
think they're they're a good a good one to go with. Obviously,
Followout was a great example of how to do a
video game TV show, and I think that's another good example.
They're like, we're talking about follow Out. Of course that
wasn't adapting an individual game. There's a lot of references
to characters or factions, but there isn't specific characters or
game storylines that they're overdoing there. But I think through
that show, because they it was a TV show and
that had a lot of time they could kind of
throw like multiple types of characters and throw characters on
the other side of the spectrum from like a true
good character to a true evil character and characters kind
of in between on the spectrums. And I feel like
with mass effect, that's such a big part of those
games is like the decisions and I forget it's like
Renegade and I forget the other side, but there's like
are you making the good or the bad choices? And like,
ultimately a show like this, if they are adapting the
story one to one, they're gonna have to pick a side,
and they're probably gonna pick the good side. But maybe
they can kind of explore that rather than just having
like one Shepherd, maybe they can implement a couple other
characters in there on different sides. Maybe the companions can
do that too, with more like evil side evil coded
decisions versus the good guy sorted decisions. But I'm excited
to see what they do there, and if it is
something that goes multiple seasons and they get into the
sequel games, I mean, I'm pretty sure the games, and
of course I haven't played them, but I'm pretty sure
the games, like the sequels just straight up make some
of the endings canon and like you just have to
deal with it even if you pick the other options.
So I'm sure that they would do that here and
just pick, like, what is the best story that we
want to tell, We're just gonna go with that, rather
than doing some weird like multiple choice thing. Obviously that
format doesn't work as well unless you do like Band
or Snatch on Netflix, which was, you know, not the
norm by any means. But yeah, I think that's a really,
really great pairing. You know, Amazon has the budget to
make a big sci fi thing like that happened too,
so I think that that's a really great parent. I'm
pretty excited for that. And you run a good Paragon
that was the other side Paragon leaks make for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you answered Mike question because he asked, do you
guys think massfect show would directly adapt the games or
go the Fallout route and.
Speaker 1: Create I think that one would more adapt the story
of the game of the games rather than do the
Fallout thing. I think that makes a bit more sense
for Fallout is a narrative game, but I also feel
like it is such a free form, open game and
you kind of make your own story. Whereas Mass Effect, yes,
you have decisions and stuff, but like it is a
more linear story and it is more of a narrative
focused thing. So I think you go that round. Like
the character the player freedom is probably less so than
like a Fallout, where you can go any sort of
way in terms of like your character be really dumb
or really smart, or use different types of weapons even
and be a hacker, that kind of thing. I feel like,
from what I understand, Mass Effects a little bit, a
little bit more narrowed, a little more focused on the
scope of things.
Speaker 2: Right now, two things. One you said because you've never
booted a Mass Effect, right you.
Speaker 1: Just never booted Okay, We've been booted on a console
that I've holding a controller for.
Speaker 2: Okay, because at least the last of us unders saying
you said you booted up and then not for you,
so you went away. But I'm just saying, maybe let's
circle back, because this is I've been wanting to replay them,
because I've played one and two, never played three because
I heard controversial things and just didn't have the bandwidth
that time. But I bought the what was on some deal,
the whatever they did that collector the Legendary edition. Yeah,
I bought it because, like, I would like to have
these games because I had them on Xbox, but I
like now transfers from a PS four and PS five,
So maybe tentively put that schedule be down.
Speaker 1: At least do a retro about seventeen hours, about twenty hours.
That's not so bad for RPG.
Speaker 2: Oh, I guess, but that's side.
Speaker 1: Quests and stuff. He adds the time, I'm sure.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's what I was gonna say, because that,
for me, is the closest a game has ever captured
the like spirit of Nights Old Republic, like as far
as your decisions, and Mike is right where it's like,
that's the one where it's like they do cross like
a lot of your choices do crossover, which is great
when I boot up to you had this, this and
this is like, oh, I feel like I'm playing the
same character. But yeah, the more important point points are
not choice based, and yeah, that's exactly it, right, And
that's where I think they'll because you'd easily look at
this and go, oh, well, fall out. They already did
that the whole student News storyline set in the world.
Why don't they do it? Again, I think, you know,
fall does have some you know, iconic games and characters,
but I don't think they have any one character that's
iconic is like Commander Shepherd, right, And the other thing
that's tough though, is Commander Shepherd means something different to
everybody because they chose their story right, They've made their mission.
So your Commander Shepherd might be different than mine, but
it's still a character. It's still legendary person. So I
think I'm fifty one forty nine on them doing the
Shepherd thing. I think just I think they will. There's
other classic characters they can and I think they'll just
pick the storylines that suit best for going multiple seasons,
you know, and it'll be interesting. I trust Amazon. I
think it's a good thing to have because Fallow I
think worked out for them. I think again, Mass Effect
as a TV show works better than a movie. I
think Amazon has a budget and like Amazon doesn't have
like they got Lord of the Rings with their medieval show,
they got Fallout, which is our apocalyptic show. I don't
think they like a big mainstream space show, you know,
so they're kind of ticking their box off and Mass
Effect does that. So Taya before I go, do you think,
what do you think they're gonna do that? Are they going?
Mike was asking do you think they follow the storyline
or do they followed it where they go, you know,
do their own storyline, but it's set in the world
of Commander Shepherd and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: I think you do the Fallout era era theme, I
should say. I think that if you are doing something
that's an original story, I think that's great because you
do have those pre existing foundations that exist with the games,
and like you guys said, you have your own version
of Commander Shepherd based on your decisions in that game.
So I think that if you were to base the
game heavily off of him, that might not be super
well received because everyone has different engagements. So if you
haven't just appear here and there as a cameo character
just interacting with the main character of this show, then
I think that's a really really good idea. There's there's
gotta be a lot of different stories they can tackle.
I mean, the only story I know of is that
there's this ancient alien race in there that's trying to
wipe out humanity or something like that.
Speaker 1: That's all another classic. Yeah, that's yeah, yeah, good trop Yeah, Travis.
If they do, if they do follow the games like
one to one, we'll say, for example, you think they
go h man or woman for the for the for
Commander Shepherd, because that's always a big decision for people.
Speaker 2: Man, just because like he for which one?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like a lot of people prefer the
female voice performance in that game, and so a lot
of people say that's like their favorite route.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just feel like who's always in the box
art though you know it is the male version of
Commander Shepherd. It's always the guy with like the hair
of mine where he's like a little more he's a
little more based off or No, that's just is that
not just of the the new Mass Effect game, like
the one that didn't.
Speaker 1: Perform new one has like a helmet on but you're right,
that has a helmet. It looks like, yeah, do on
the front of the first one?
Speaker 2: Could you be.
Speaker 1: Of them?
Speaker 2: Then?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I thought she was on the third one as
a cover?
Speaker 2: No, that's the new game. Remember they made that one
Mass Fact game that didn't go good and had a
lot of launch problems everything. I wonder if that's what
you guys are talking about it's like Mass Effect Androma
or something.
Speaker 3: Three.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing that there's a version for each, but I
don't see that for the first two games.
Speaker 2: Okay, Mike, you may be able to tell us, because
I feel like you have some Mass Effect fandom going on,
and that's true, Mike said. The writer does not the
writer they hired does not soon have a lot of credits,
which I saw. It's like Fast nine and then said,
yeah the okay, no, there you go. You got a
female on there. And then Espo says the Expanse was
supposed to get the base game. I'm not sure if
they ever released that, but yeah, and yeah they had
the Expense, but the Expanse didn't go. Yeah, I remember
the Expanse. I don't think hit like what I'm trying
to say, like, I think massfac could hit like the
Fallout sort of levels and everything. And also we've forgot
to that Expense.
Speaker 1: Game is out now, Okay, you're apparently.
Speaker 2: And then, as Supermke said, the third had both you
could turn it inside out. There you go a the classic,
the reversible gotta go fim SHIPPERD. And the other reason
I just don't think they will is because with fall Out.
They have the female it's an ensemble, they have female lead.
I just I'm trash told you it's gonna be the
male a Kabander Shepherd.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think for a lot of people
with the game, it's not like the I forget her name,
but whoever, like she does, her performance is a lot
better from what I've said. But obviously with the show,
they're gonna cast someone well.
Speaker 2: And like they're in this business like the end of
the business. But I mean, like even we didn't cover
but a couple of weeks ago they got a new
showrunner for the God of War show. So Amazon's crack
like they're making some big moves on these big franchises here.
So I'm I'm excited for all.
Speaker 1: The huge success. So it makes sense now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I'm happy it was because then we
get more stuff like that. So I'm excited by that.
Subs is right about that. You know what's his name? Uh?
Really Scott did produce another like he produced Romolas. I
hope it's like that. And because I don't, I don't
want to say his time's done because I even you know,
re rewatched Covenant for the retro and I even like
that more than I did the first one, which is
the first time I give like a failing grade. But
I just feel like it's I think what they had
with Ramless was a good situation. And I also don't
want them we double this last week with Predator to Oversaturated,
So like I feel like Romless, the sequel to Romless,
like let's just keep it of that for now, Like,
let's not go too heavy. I know people love the IP,
and I know Disney and that brand want to get
all that stuff out there, but like, if if it's
an additional one to to fede, if it's an additional
one and it's like him directing or something, that's where
I go. I think, really, Scott's good to move on
from here, you know, enjoy the enjoy the gladiator or
success he's about to have. So you got that going on.
I already said Prince Charming not a good idea, But
for some reason, I think it could be more of
an enjoyable movie because I think they're gonna play Prince
CHARMI as like a lovable idiot, and Hempsworth is great
at that, right, Like he does that type of bit
all the time. So it's strange like Daisy Editor Jones
is circling this. I thought there'd be a different trajectory,
but you know, this is probably getting some good money
out there. So Agent Venom, that's funny, that's rumored. Me
and Taylor talked about that last week of like what
they could do next, and I brought up Agent Venom
because I just feel like that's you can use Venom,
but it's like a new story and I guess that
could be your new hero. So and the Venom still
some cache and aim, like it didn't have as bad
as a drop as Joker did. So luckily for them,
they probably look at they go okay, like you know,
trajectory is going down, but maybe there's some juice in here.
Lego live action movies just start at one and go
from there. Dumb dumb idea God's always spoke about. And
then yet out last I'm excited and pissed because I
remember when we were on the playing the game back
in the day, I was like, oh man, I bet
they won't make this into movie. Like I was just
like had on the long bucket list of like long
term goals, like oh, I'd love to go and just
pitch this cause I just feel like it's like it's
like even Until Dawn to me, is like a small
sony ip. So I was like, I don't know if
everyone's gonna touch out Last, and I even when we
play Trials, I'm like, you could make a very very
good because the world is small but still vast, whether
it is Trials, whether it's the first one, and I've
never played the second one, but there's so much to do,
and with that asylum, I just feel like you can
keep that to a cheap budget and I feel like
you can make up easy profit with that movie if
you make it just decent. And I feel we were
talking about that, it's like what Dylan was bringing up.
I hope with the at least if they adapt the
first game. And I'm pretty sure the guy that wrote
the games is writing the movie or he's one of
the writers, so that's cool. I would love them to
still incorporate the camera some ways. I think they got
to find new plot points. Maybe those notes and stuff
you pick up, maybe you film flashbacks for those, or
there's radio recordings instead of notes of exposition. But I
think Outlast, what is a franchise that a bunch of
people aren't going to know those video games, but if
done right, it could be. It could be one of
those franchises that has like three to five sequels in
the future, because I think there's so much there and
I love that world. So I hope it works and
we get to see Missus Gooseberry on screen and stuff,
and I think it's right for the taking. So but
I also think it's a movie they could do. Uh
it does terrible, Like everyone just thinks it's a shitty
horror movie. You's just like a basic bitch horror movie
that they just made it try and check cash grab
and then you never see it again. So I hope
they take some love and care into this, and uh yeah,
we'll see what happened. So we'll take your last Adik,
we'll talk about a few trailers, and then we'll be
right back and we're back. So we just had a
few trailers here and then the one mini topic in
the middle of it. Uh So, you got Skeleton Crew,
that's the star show coming out of December. You got Presence,
which is a haunted house movie, but it's from the
perspective of the ghosts this time, so it's kind of
like that in a violent nature. Yeah, that's what it is.
You got the Squid Game season two trailer. But I
also want to ask because at the end of last
week they announced that they are Green Let and they're
doing the American remake with David Vncher, who directed The
Killer last year offic seven the Sure TV show. I think,
as of right now, it's what it sounds like. And
then also Hard Eyes, which once I watched I regret
putting in there because there really wasn't much to it,
but I put it in there because I was like, oh.
Speaker 1: This, My question is why should I care about this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had like as good producer as good, I'm like, okay,
and then when I saw him like, oh, it's like
only a minute over. Then I'll watch my like okay,
that was some Sometimes tras missus on the trailers and
I'll omit. The Hard Eyes was missed, but uh, I
hope I like it when it comes out. I'm always
down for us. I liked that killed they had in
the trailer too, of the couple getting on and he
makes some kiss by stabbing the night through. I'm like, Okay,
if the whole movie is like that, there could be
some fun there.
Speaker 1: You know, but m hmm, I'll jump in here. Yeah, presence.
I didn't even like catch what the fis of it was,
I guess, but when I was watching, I'm like, man,
this camera work is really interesting. Like I feel like
even just the whatever lens they had on the camera,
it just books kind of weird and off. And then
they're like the angles that they're doing is like it's
always a little bit too high or a little bit
too low. It's just like a little bit off. So
I feel like they're kind of getting off this like
slightly unsettling vibe with the camera work alone. So I
really like that, like the cinematography of it, but in
terms of character or story, there was not much in
the trailer that really grabbed on me. But now that
I know that premise, I'm really into it. So that's cool.
Skeleton Crew. Nothing to add on that one. That's that's
not of all the Star Wars uh Disney shows that
I've skipped, that would be bottom of my list the
ones I want to watch. And you know what, it's
not the audience for that, not me. It's like for kids,
I think, right, So you know, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: And then Squid Game season two.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about this one. I
feel like it's like maybe that show was like lighting
in a bottle for like one season, and when I
was watching the trailer for this, it just felt like, Okay,
we a lot of retreading the same ground, a lot
of revisiting what we've done before, and I just don't
feel like I'm gonna enjoy it as much as I
did that first one. We'll see maybe there's a fun
twist on it, but in terms of the story of
like we're back in the game and the one guy's
back and he did it before, but then like no
one's listening to him because why would they because they
want the money too. It's like, okay, so we're just
doing the exact same thing game, which is like I know,
I'm sure a lot of people.
Speaker 3: Just want that.
Speaker 1: But then you can have like the same games, so
it's not even like new games. It's like, ah, I
don't know.
Speaker 2: I hope that changes. I hope they're showing us the
same thing.
Speaker 1: There's not some new ones, right, but that's like from
what I've seen, I don't know, it looks like a
lot of retreading the same ground and I just don't
see where the compelling thing to that is other than
like they're just doing a cash grab on it, which
seems like it's possible.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately. Yeah, I just feel like that has to be
a cliffhanger right where the whole pitch is. He knows
the games, he's played them, and one episode has in
the cliffhanger where it room opens, he's like, I haven't
played this game before, and that's like, you know, cut
the play like because I feel like that's like, oh shit,
because that his life is back in dang injury, right,
because what is the the fun of It's just the exacts,
Like I think I understand the pitchs are going for.
But yeah, it is interesting.
Speaker 1: I mean, even given all my reservations there, I'm still
gonna watch it for sure, So uh looking forward to that.
And then yeah, the remake, I'm I'm once again it's like, Okay,
we're retritting the same ground, doing this again. Curious to see.
I mean, a great director pick for that director. Writer
is he doing?
Speaker 2: I assume I think he isn't normally.
Speaker 1: Right the movies that he's directed.
Speaker 3: I don't actually know.
Speaker 2: I don't think he I think there's that times. We actually, no,
I think he's usually down just to do a lot
of direct up phulp his credits. But actually I was
gonna say that, but no, I don't think it's like
a Tarantino type there where he has to have.
Speaker 3: Hands on it all.
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see who they who they would get
then as a writer for that, but I think director's
that's a really great pick. And yeah, I'm really curious
to see what they do for cast because obviously, coming
into that Spoody Game season one, a lot of us,
specially here in North America, we don't know any of
these people, and that to me added a lot where
there was some really stand up performances in there, and
that was really fun and different. And so they could
go multiple directions here where they could try and go
for young up and comers no names so to speak,
or they could go for like bigger star people, because
that is a huge ip now even though but then
like you know, mister Beast is doing his ship too,
and it's like it's just a huge deal now. So yeah,
I don't know, I'm really I'm really curious to see
what goes on with that, But I I assume i'd
watch that too, Like, I guess I'm all in on
the squid game train, even if I'm have my reservations
about just kind of retreading the same ground over and
over again.
Speaker 2: Maybe if you get a bad season two and then
a bad American season, that's when you might be Yeah,
because they have said that the original show that's going,
the Korean show that's going only three seasons, they shot
them back to back, and then that's.
Speaker 1: Throw a third third one in there even But yeah, yeah,
I'm curious. I hope that they kind of switch up
a bit, right, Like, I hope we don't get just
these same without spoiling what happens like near the end
of that show, and you figure out more about what's
going on, you know, behind the games and stuff behind
the cam, like, I hope some of that stuff is
different and not just like a one one remake of
what we had before. H And you know, I'm sure
a lot of like hopefully a lot of the games
are different too. And it's not like I'm sure you
want to throw a couple in there the classics, but
hopefully we get to see some other fun, creative, freaky,
weird saw trap level weird stuff in there as well,
and hopefully they come up with some fresh new ones
with that remake as well.
Speaker 2: He has a CIDOPHI I feel embarrassing for not knowing this,
but other than a couple of short films in two thousands,
he has not written a single thing. He's just a
director and producer. So he's a he's a shooter, and
obviously he has like yeah, which is interesting because he
has like a distinct style, but lots of those people
that have that styles like writer, director, like yeah.
Speaker 1: Even thinking back to The Killer last year, like man,
it must be working so closely together obviously to make
that movie happen, but I feel like such a cohesive vision.
You just know what that movie smells like, one that's
written and directed by the same person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. It's just he's just that good. So yeah,
And it's interesting too because I rewatched again this year.
But he did a movie back in the nineties called
The Game. It's with Sean Penn and Michael Douglas, and
it's similar game. No, not exactly, but it is a
similar guys putting a lot of interesting situations. But they're
all in the real world. They're not in a room
like the game is or a building, but they're in
the real world and they're all this guy signs up
for an experience and it's a little more than he
could handle. So and it's it. And that's the opposite
where it's a guy that has money and has everything
and he's just looking for some jolly. So it is
kind of funny that's a reverse of that. And so
for the trailer, I don't know if I wanted to
know the pitch now because I kept being like, okay,
why is this guy going back? Right? Like what can
this character do? I do find there's like some merit
and like, okay, this is a good hero story of
maybe there's more too, But is he in there literally
just to try and save people? Like that's you know,
because he does tell seeing the trailer like hey, if
you keep doing this, you're all gonna die. Obviously there's
gonna be some of the themes the first one, but
I'm just wondering what the whole plot is. But that
did get me in. It reminds me of lot of
you know, it ends up be some falsehood. But Amanda
and saw too, and she's the survivor of the trap.
Speaker 3: And you have.
Speaker 2: I always liked that aspect of the I've done this before.
Listen to me. And but like I said, I do
think there has to be some curve balls thrown in there.
But yeah, I'm excited to see where they go, I think,
and I was interested as well. They may it seem
like the Games or the hosts or whatever were caught
off guard by this guy was back in. I thought
they would know. But the fact that in this trayl
at least the way the edit it made seem like
they're surprises back in. What does that mean? So they
do got my curiosity. I agree with you about the
games and everything, but as far as him being back there,
like the innovation the American one, I don't know. I
feel like it's like I kind of want them just
to take the concept and do a completely different story.
You know, I don't need the exact beats. I don't need,
like you know, certain revelations like you were talking about
with certain characters in there. I would love it like
you can hit on some of the beats. But again
back to how he directed the game. He did the
Girl the Dragon to the American version, and it's not
a one to one adaption, but it's pretty much just
here's a remake of the Danish film with some a
few things change, right, So it might just be that.
And it's also good for Fincher because like it's kind
of a layup project where you just know people are
gonna watch it, and with the whole when they did
the whole strikes and everything like that, there's new things on.
You get certain bonuses if you get watched by this
and you' to like I think it's kind of like
any I feel like, even if it's bad, people are
going to tune in just to see it. And then
maybe you know, progressive seasons after, you know, seasons that
predis that won't have the same comeback. But I feel
that season one for the American Show has people, and
especially because there's some people that won't want to listen
to the dubs or read the subtitles, like oh yeah,
finally I can watch I can watch a squid game
and not have to worry about it. But uh uh yeah,
what else was there? Hard Eyes? I talk about Skeleton Crew?
Was that No Presence? Yeah, I'm I'm on the camp
of I liked In a Violent Nature. That was the
movie where it falled, like what if you follow Jason Vorhees.
I get why people wouldn't like it. I get people's complaints.
I think the movie does really fall a part in
that third act. But I really enjoyed that idea of Okay,
let's watch this lumbering around and it's like I had
my expectations set and that's what I got, and I
saw my expectations here where I feel like it's going
to be a very very slow movie. You're gonna have
to take your time with it, and only is the
one you're gonna watch when you're tired. But I'm interested.
I like seeing Lucy low in like a more serious role.
That's always good. So I'm very curious what they're gonna
do as far as even if it's a haunting, like
when this thing, does it possess someone? And if it does,
does that possession turned to like the first person view
of the person that possesses I don't know. I'm I'm
very and like same thing. Lots of these horror movies,
usually not usually I'll say fifty percent of them, the
ghost is there, but the ghost is there because of
something bad happening, right, not because they choose to be
there and they want to haunt you. Lots of these
ghost stories are like, oh, well, this really happened this
guy and you know, he was possessed and he kills
his family. Like I think that's what I'm interested is
taking this what we would appear on the outside of
like a ghost or whatever, some demonic thing and it
being scary. But if you make it from the point
of view from the ghost, I actually think you could
make it like a tragic story and that idea that
you've been locked up here forever. There's a there's a
good movie that I don't think it hits on all
the beats, but it's just called Ghost and it's with
Rooney Mara and God, what is Ben Affleck's brother name
Casey Affleck? Where he he dies and he just haunts
the house but he can't really interact. So he's just
stuck in this house for like decades and decades and
he sees his like his wife gets a new boyfriend
and she gets pregnant by him, and then he moves
out and it's a new family, another family. Like it's
just like an idea of, Okay, what would happen if
you were stuck here? So I think there's something interesting
of like if you could make the ghost like not scary,
like trying to like you're trying, they're trying to get freed.
So I'm very excited by this one. I don't think
i'd see in the theater because I definitely think this
could be one that could be like, fuck, that was
a tough watch and not fun. So I think this
is definitely a home one for me. And then finally
Skeleton Crew super disappointed by because I was digging the
trailers they'd show before. But what I hated about this
is it felt very much like they're tray made Guardians
and Galaxy, and that, to me is not what I
want Star Wars to be. I like Guardian's Galaxy being
hey there's a little Star Wars in here, but we
got a big spin on it. I don't want Star
Wars doing that, even though like some people might think
it's cute, I don't like them musing a song from
our general like our music, but then like having it
sung in like Star Wars lyrics, like it's like some
alien language, but it's a song. I came what the
song was, but it's a song that is a pop
called a pop hit song. So for me, I don't
like that. I didn't like what they didn't accolte. So
for me, this trailer actually unsold me. I'll watch it
because I think the girls hopefully will enjoy this. I
think they could be fun. There's some of these kid
actors looking charismatic, and Jude lovelessly has some fun. But
for me, there was something more I don't know, innocent
about that first full trailer. There was something where it
just felt like what people compare it to, like an
e T. And I liked that vibe where this was
more like the swashbuck like oh man, we're new it now,
and then it's like big effects and explosion and a
pop song. It's like like not saying it's gonna be
borer Lands, but it felt like that would say, Okay,
I get what you're going for. You guys are worried
no one's gonna watch the show. So I'm hoping the
trailer trailer one it's more of the show, and this
was just a bad trailer. The show's more like this,
I'll be less sold, but yeah, there you goes like
that's the best way to describe Ghost Story. The movie
with a ten minute pie eating scene. Yeah, that's what
happens when you're ghost. It's a tough watch, but I
enjoy it. But Taylor nis off your thoughts on these trailers?
Speaker 3: Oh, yes, uh, which want to start with? I'll go
with Presidence. Presidence, I remember us talking about this, and
I'm really looking forward to it. Just the fact that, yeah,
it's the perspective of this entity and just how much
fun you can have with that, Like it almost feels
like you're a stalker, I guess, which you pretty much
are as you're this entity, because just you're experiencing things
through the spirit's eyes and so whether this thing has
possession going on in this movie or whatnot, or just
you have multiple families moveing, like you guys already talked about,
there's a lot of interesting outcomes that they can really
tackle with this, and so I'm looking forward to it
because I don't think I've seen anything like this. It
just reminds me of something like a hardcore Henry. I
get very different tone and very different atmosphere.
Speaker 2: And from Surpristy, I'm surprised you haven't checked out a
violent year yet because you're a big for the thirteenth guy.
Speaker 3: So violent year?
Speaker 2: Is that the violent nature story? No violence and long?
Speaker 3: Yeah, didn't he play what was that one where he's
the candy king killer or the mayor of the town
during Christmas?
Speaker 2: That's like, that's like a Christmas movie with it. I
can't remember what it is, but it's a play on that.
No in a violent nature, in a violent nature, that's
a the POV from my adjacent Bordie type of character.
Speaker 3: Right, very right. I need to watch that one. That
is on my list. Yeah, I gotta get her ond
to that one. Oh what else do we got? Yeah,
Squid Game season two. I remember everyone talking about season
one and I thought, you know what, I'm gonna dip
my toes in let's see what's going on. And I
finished it in a day. I thought, holy fuck. I
kept trying to stop myself, but that show was so awesome.
I loved it. I love the story, so I'm really
excited to get back into that world. I'll probably try
and rewatch the first season Madison ever saw it. I
ended up just binging it on my own, So I'll
see if maybe I can get her on board this
time to give it a go, because yeah, that that
show is it's great. I can't wait. What else do
we have? Yeah, hard eyes that that scene in the
back of that van was just a curveball that was
just not expecting that. That's quite a death.
Speaker 2: A wonderfulonderful night.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's the one.
Speaker 2: Commend it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And so then Skeleton Crew, the trailer thing that
you use the song that you said that they was
like our music, but then re dubbed in that like
kind of like Star Wars e vibe.
Speaker 1: I actually really liked it.
Speaker 3: And it's weird because like it doesn't necessarily feel like
Star Wars. It feels very much like its own thing.
And that's where it'll be difficult to remind myself, like, hey,
this is the same universe. Like Luke Skywalker is like
buzzing around right now, palpatinees out on Exico right now,
just like rejuvenating, and Snoke is moving around like Kyle. Yeah,
that's right. There's so many factors going on during this
time that's just weird and peculiar. But I kind of
like that there. I I I commend them for trying
to do something very very different with this, and I
think that we'll see if it pays off or we'll
see if maybe it doesn't pay off, who knows, but
it definitely has that that goonies kind of vibe to it,
and that's owning up maybe Stranger Things, a goony Stranger Things,
which is funny, a Stranger thing y. Yeah, dropped a
trailer too.
Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, just the titles. That's why I didn't put
in here. But yeah, like that's what I was hoping.
It was more goonies than Stranger Things. But I just
feel like it wasn't as serious as trailer. Again, I'm
hoping they just cut it that way. But yeah, I
don't know how this was gonna do. Luckily, like Agatha
ended up doing well and found an audience and it
kept like growing in the ratings. It did, becoming a
massive hit, So maybe this will happen. But I just
wonder after Acolyte, if this is the right show to
put out there in the Star Wars world. I just
I could see this going bad. But as usual, just
people just you know, be nice. I can't actors. They're
just trying to start out here, you know, and everything.
Speaker 3: So yeah, there's there was one creature that they showed,
and maybe I am wrong to think that it's the
the same creature, But isn't the trailer very briefly in
Rogue one, there is that thing called a Bogli or
whatever it was. It was like that mind reading creature.
And I'm pretty sure, I'm just like, thanks through the
trailer here, I'm pretty sure that it popped up briefly Bogley,
but maybe not like it looks. It looks like it
could be something different, but it's similar. It has like
long tentacles and whatnot. It was a thing that like
latched onto the pilot and what's his name? Lies? What's
his name? Tommy Chows helping me out here? Deceptions? What's
his name? Sagerera?
Speaker 2: Oh god? Why am I forgetting his name?
Speaker 3: Not to like Frost of course, thank yous Frost.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because actually it's a forest. Thank you.
Speaker 3: That's when he's like like and then the creature comes out.
Speaker 2: And I think, I think when you try to invoke
Rogue one, you got two of the worst people here
to try and evoke that way.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I've shut that out of my brain. I
deleted it.
Speaker 3: It's harder.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Wealtley, Jevin, we have done it. I don't think
is there anything I'd add? Anything we missed? Nothing?
Speaker 1: Take me Home, Take you.
Speaker 2: Home, Welt lays Joe, and we will be back next
week with there will be another newscast because they have
D twenty three Brazil. Happened this week. They got panels
for Disney, Marvel and Star Wars. So we should be.
Speaker 1: D twenty three Canada hopefully, But where's our D twenty
three Canada?
Speaker 2: Come on? But you know it's just gonna be in Toronto,
you know, it's not like at least for Brazil.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, where's ours? You know?
Speaker 2: Yeah? But yeah, so hopefully we get some news there.
Until then, I'm worn by