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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Cougar Sports Here one O, three, nine

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and nine three ESPN. The fan run up the three

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man weave of Brett always bringing the hammer by my side,

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effort to get Anson wine to the former BYU basketball

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guard on the line. U here momentarily might have them

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call into the station as well, Brett. Until then, we'll

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keep discussing. I want to ask you this. I don't

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know if I asked you this, and this is it

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is our basketball, I guess. Question of the day. What

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is the biggest thing in this team has accomplished through

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non conference play?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: The biggest thing BYU basketball has accomplished through non conference play?

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I mean, I think the big one is aj Debonza

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has then as advertised, which some people might not think

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is a big deal, but I do because there's no

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guarantees with the world we live in college basketball, like

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not everybody automatically pans out when they get to the

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next level. So I think that's number one in terms

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of like things I needed to see, and we did

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see a j Dea Botsa really did pan out. The

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other thing is BYU in a non conference schedule that's

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stronger than it's been in previous years, even though people

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like Seth Davis don't think it's that tough. You be Villanova,

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You're two points away from beating the number three team

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in the country in Yukon. You whoop up on Wisconsin,

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You beat Miami, you beat Damon, you beat Dayton, you

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beat Clemson. Like the again, you lost one game in

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non conference and the only game you lost was to Yukon,

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was to Hurley and Crew, was to a team who's

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going to be perennially running through the NCED tournament year

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after year after year. So I think when we talked

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a lot about coming into the season, what is this

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non conference schedule going to do for this BYU basketball team.

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All the games they they wanted to win in terms

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of upper level competition better than the WCC days, they

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won all of those games and were very competitive in

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a game against Yukon that Franklin was early in the

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season of the team maybe wasn't gelled together as much

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as they could have been. So I think the number

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one thing that I've seen from this bou basketball team

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and what they've accomplished is really dominating the non conference

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schedule the way they should.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely they've dominated the non conference schedule as well.

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Let's talk with a guy that knows a lot about

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the non conference schedule.

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Speaker 3: He knows about you know, those those WCC.

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Speaker 2: Times in Mountain West times as well. We got former

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BAU basketball great Anson Winder on the line. Brother, Thanks

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for joining us today, Mayor Christmas and happy holidays to

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the family.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for having me Mary, Christmas to you as

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well as for being on. There's a lot to celebrate,

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a lot to be happy for, especially if you're a

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BAU fan right.

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Speaker 2: Now, definitely if you're a BAU fan, but we'll talk

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by you in a second, but I want to celebrate

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and show some love to you. Please get us caught

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up on life house, the family been and then give

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us an update on Wall Sash and how you guys

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have been this season so far.

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Speaker 5: Oh man, I appreciate you giving me the Florida to

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talk about our squad. I mean, first and foremost, the

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family is doing well. You know, this is always a

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fun time of year. I'm a Vegas boy, so usually

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you know, we're not battling snow or anything like that,

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and we're usually dealing with some warmer temperatures this time

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of year. So I'll be down in Vegas for the holidays,

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just spending time with the family and really looking forward

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to it. It should be a fun, fun week, fun

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holiday season. As far as part as the team goes,

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it's been a fun year.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 5: It's it every year very much.

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 5: Like at the college level, with the transfer portals, there's

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somewhat of a portal in high school as well, so

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we've had to adjust. We brought in basically a whole

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new team. We had three returners, but outside of that,

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we had a whole new group of guys that came

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in and joined our team at whilst. That's this year,

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and it's been fun. It's been fun watching them compete.

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It's been fun watching them grow together and build that

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team chemistry. Uh, you know, we get better and better

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every game. As it stands right now, we're seven and three.

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Last I checked, we were number twenty one in the

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country and hoping to continue to climb that ladder. We'll

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have a lot of opportunities with the remainder of our

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season to play against some of the best teams and

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best players in the country. Those are the likes of

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you know, Mount verd and Oak Hill Academy, Long Island,

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Lutheran IMG of course, just some of those perennial powerhouses

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of the prep school world. So yeah, we're just we're

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taking in a day at a time, trying to grow

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and develop and yeah, and let the chips flow where

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Speaker 2: Hey, anytime you got you know, the great Anderson Wine

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and there Paul Peterson coaching. Hey, I expect that team

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to you know, make waves. They develop talent the likes

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of the Richie Sounders, the kab kid is the first

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Ros even other Big twelve you know as Isaiah Harwell

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planning it there.

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Speaker 3: You know on Houston. You guys have done a phenomenal job.

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Speaker 2: So I have to ask you who are the prospects

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that we need to be keeping our eye on this season?

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Speaker 3: Anson, Oh, absolutely, So.

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Speaker 5: We have three committed players on our team right now

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that I think will really turn heads when they give

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a college next year and in years to come, we'll

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start with Mariano Mansel. He's he's a six or four

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guard out of the state of Detroit or out of

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the city of Detroit, Michigan. He is he's headed to

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steven F. Austin next year. He actually led our league

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in scoring last year with one of the highest three

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part percentages. So I think I expect him to go

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to the next level and really light it up, expand

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his game, and really contribute to a lot of wins

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at steven F. Austin. Next up is our point guard

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six y five guard out of Seattle, Washington, by the

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name of Coachrell Harmon. He's actually committed to the University

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of Creighton and so he'll be a freshman at Creighton

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next year and we'll compete for hopefully starting minutes or

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minutes at the point guard position. And he's just a

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wiry Jamal Crawford type guard that's just a creative score

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and an aggressive playmaker that's really really good at getting

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downhill and finding others and creating for others. So we've

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been lucky to have control with us this year. And

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then lastly, we have a Yukon commit by the name

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of Junior County. He's actually a Utah, Utah kid. He

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was raised in Ireland, but we've been lucky enough to

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have him with our program the last two years. And

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he's a six to six guard shooting guard that's just physical.

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biggest skill is just his ability to just affect the

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game on both ends of the floor. He's probably our

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best defender as well as our i think our second

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leading scorer, and he's one of our primary ball handlers

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and playmakers. So we lean on him heavily to contribute

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on a night in a night out basis. And I

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expect him to have a great career at YOU and

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compete for a ton of minutes as a freshman next

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year under coach Early.

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Speaker 2: Fast, rising four star guards Junior County the number forty

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third recruit in the twenty twenty six Sports Center Next

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one hundred. So that kid is a problem, no doubt.

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I've seen his tape. Don't want to get caught on

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a highlight. Speaking of tape, I know you are a

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guy that likes to watch. I'm serious, I'm not a kid.

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Look every time I play pickup and I see these

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old men make moves or something, I just like, I

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don't want to get embarrassed at church ball yet alone.

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If you had to play at the highest level, so

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you've ransom peoples, you know how it'd be.

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to get ankles taken exactly.

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Speaker 5: I understand. I get it, I get it. I don't

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want to be anyone highlight tape. I don't want to

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be embarrassed, none of that.

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Speaker 3: None of that. Well, Pacific got embarrassed.

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Speaker 2: You know all about Pacific BYU clapped him ninety three

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to fifty seven. What did it feel like the finally,

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you know, see By you just dominate the old wccfo

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it was a tailor, like four halfs. I felt like

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though ansid it was up and down. The roller coaster

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didn't really start off the way if you look at

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the box score, it's a blowout. But that game definitely

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was up and down for sure. But what did you

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like about seeing By you take down an old opponent

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that you're familiar with.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's funny, right because you mentioned that

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game being so up and down, and that was the

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consistency of my time in the WCC. It's in like

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every team I was on, no matter how talented or

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how skilled we were. We would go on the road

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to some of the WCC arena as, arenas and gyms

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and we would struggle, you know, And it's just I

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think it's a credit to the coaches that are in

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the WCC, the players that they recruit, just how prepared

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they are, right. I think every WCC team, you know,

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when BAU was in Matt Conference, knew that there were

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three big games that you had to circle on your calendar.

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You had to circle Gonzaga, of course, you had to

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circle Saint Mary's, and then you had to circle BYU.

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And so those were all games that I think the

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WCC teams got up for and we're looking for ways

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to kind of make their season, and getting wins against

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those three teams would really make your season. So I

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wasn't surprised to see Pacific or Pacific put up a

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fight against against by U. I knew towards the end,

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I think the skill and the overall just scheme of

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the game would work in BYU's favor. But I wasn't surprised,

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you know. I think just a credit to coach Young

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and the way that he prepares those guys on a

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daily basis. It seems like, you know, whether the BAU

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has a slow start or not, they're a great second

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half team and they always figure out a way to

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you know, get stops and consecutively and then find ways

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to create on offense with so much firepower that they have,

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you know, I'm not surprised that they're scoring in the

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seventies and eighties consistently like this. They're getting huge contributions

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from their big three and also their their role guys

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are also stepping into making big plays. So I'm not

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surprised with some of the wins that we're seeing.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, AJ had the thirty point triple double, and we

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know what he is going to be a top two

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pick on down in the draft. But I want to

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talk about a guy that you've seen closely, up close

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and personal, the Richie Saunders, the top King hand man.

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It's got like fifty five nicknames. People dress up us

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for following rightfully. So that guy has benefited so much

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from those guys. I mean, he is so wide open

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and you honestly sometimes forget about him and then he

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hits a three and you look up like he had

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a casual And I'm serious, he had a casual twenty

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one last night, you know, twenty two, and it's because

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of AJ. But the b YU, I feel like the

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way to win a Final four is because of that

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attention drawn away.

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Speaker 3: Like Richie, I feel like he's going to hit one

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hundred threes this year.

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Speaker 5: Ansom, I have to agree. I mean between the shooting

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ability of Richie and AJ, I mean you're throwing Kenard Davis.

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I mean those guys you I don't know if I'm

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a coach that's preparing for BYU, I don't know who

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you try to take, you know, take out of the game, right,

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who do you key in on? You know, there's AJ

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on a nightly basis. He's going to impact the game.

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knockdown shooters. You know Richie Saunders, Robert Wrights, you know

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he's perfecting his shot. Kenard Davis is a great shooter

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with such a high assist count, but also with guys

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multiple players and double digits, because the firepower is just

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it's scary. It's scary, you know when at any point

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any one of those guys can go off and have

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career nights. And we've seen aj I do it a

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couple of times. We've seen Richie do it. But I

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wouldn't be surprised if we, you know, we see Keva

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have a career night just based off of how you

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know the defense and what you know, what offensive opportunities

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they give him. And the same with Robert Wright. It's

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like he's been pretty quiet offensively, but you know he's

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due for, you know, a monster game. So you know,

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on any given night, I think what's special about this

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team is that someone can explode and have a career night,

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and you know it's it's gonna be interesting to see

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how these teams in the Big twelve guard by US

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as conference gets ready to start.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely gonna be interesting to see how they

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guard him, no doubt about it all. As we have

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anson winer former by you men's basketball guard on the line,

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what does let's talk about Kaba.

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Speaker 3: He had a career high on blocks against Miami man.

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Speaker 2: He was sitting. Everything was playing point guard. Duncan messed

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up a rim, you know, in Madison Square Garden. I

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just hate that, you know, he got he got sick,

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you know, and that's a part of it, right, everybody

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goes through their illness. But outside of that, CABA's had

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a phenomenal season. He almost came close to breaking that

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career h against cal Baptists. I needed a few more

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lobs to be in his vicinity. Sometimes they just throw

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it up to the moon because they say it's not

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too high, but it definitely can be too high.

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Speaker 3: I've seen it a few times.

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Speaker 2: But what have you made of Caba this season and

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the development from Chris Burgess.

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Speaker 3: I love what I've seen from Caba this year same.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I've you know, I had the luxury and

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the pleasure of coaching Cabo when he was in high school.

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to this point as a senior in college has been

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It's been nothing short of phenomenal. The kids just see

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works hard and you've seen it, right, every year he's

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gotten better and better. And it's not just from the

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eye test, it's from the stats. You know, all the

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stats have improved the year upon year, and he's becomes

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just a dominant force. Right. I expect him to be probably,

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if not the best and the second best big in

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the Big twelve this year. I expect him to continue

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to anchor the defense for BYU. And he just creates

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so many opportunities, right, if he's blocking shots, he's controlling

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the paint, he gets monster rebounds, and he's a lot

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of threat. Right, you have to guard him in a

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pick and roll action. You can't, you know, if you're

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the low man, if you're a defender, right, you can't

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just key in on shooters. You have to be be

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ready to protect the rim as well, because he rolls

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so hard and he's so athletic, and so I've been

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very impressed with Kable and I think he's fitting to

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this team as a major puzzle piece. He fits nicely,

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and he's a guy that just he's just going to

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play hard. You know, he's not expecting to get the

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ball every possession. He's not expecting to score in double figures. Right,

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He's going to do what it needs, whatever needs to

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be done to win the game. That could be zero points,

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that could be eight rebounds, it could be five blocks,

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you know. And so I've just been very pleased with

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Cave and I expect him to continue to flourish as

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this year goes on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's definitely gonna flourish. Last couple of things Anson

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before we let you go to get to break. We

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know your time is valuable, especially this holiday season. Give

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me your thoughts to your perspective as a coach, he said,

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six' four guards six. Four i've heard the we're not

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seeing And Rober wrights a dynamic, guard but kind of

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around his height if he'll be, drafted or we're moving

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away from the unless You're Steph, curry who's an, anomaly

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the greatest shooter That god's ever gifted. Us you're not

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seeing the six, two six,' three six foot one guards

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at the. Highest level you're seeing, six four sixty five,

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six eight.

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Speaker 3: Six' nine?

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Speaker 2: Why is that shed some might, on That issue because

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i'm kind of sad And by that i'm seeing all

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of these high level guys pretty much. Just point forward

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now there is no traditional Point Guard like chris paul

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anymore GOING.

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Speaker 3: In, the nba.

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Speaker 5: Yeah the game, has, Evolved tremendously right basketball. Gets, on

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you right two things that are. Consistent with basketball every

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year gets younger and every year. It, Gets taller right

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there's more and more taller athlete who are multifaceted in

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their skill set to where they can play. Plenty, of

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positions right there's a lot of basketball players that we're

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seeing in college AND in the nba that you really

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can't put them in a position because they can do.

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SO many things i think that's that's hurt the traditional

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point guard or, traditional shooting guard right because there's there's

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a limited space. For SMALLER guards and i was reading

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and watching this post online of a trainer just talk,

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about you know if you're, a smaller guard how perfect

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you have to be on.

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Speaker 1: The.

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Speaker 5: Basketball court right you have to limit, your your mistakes,

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limit your turnovers you have to be willing to hit an,

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open shop consistently and you have to be an absolute.

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Animal on defense you have to you have to be

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an extremely good defender if you're under six two sixty three.

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As a GUARD and so i think what we're seeing

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is those guards who do make it in are undersized

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or have mastered their craft and are very good at

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what they do offensively and are also no, slatches, on

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defense right they can guard their man and shut down

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their man because that's what's going to require. To get

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MINUTES and SO i think i don't think it's over for.

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THE smaller guards i think there we will still continue

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To see more we'll, see YOU others but i think

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we're going to see more polished guards COMING to the

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nba because that's what it's going to take to have a.

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Long standing career.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for.

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Speaker 2: Shedding that, Light you know i'm over getting, sad like

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man my short kings while y'all doing, that TO them

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like i need like, me, answer like hey?

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Speaker 3: We can, ball answer miner? Was the baller don't tell.

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Speaker 2: Me that the six two six three six foot. GUYS

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can't ball i remember When You know aaron brooks was,

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in the, league you know Playing. For the bulls don't

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do that to Me In. The, CHICAGO datives though i

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appreciate you shed the lad. On THAT answer before i,

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Let you go how can we tune into where you

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guys gonna be competing at the next tournament you guys

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got coming?

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Speaker 5: Up for? WASSATCH oh, Man, I appreciate yes i think

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the best way to stay in tune with what's going

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On with wass hatch is through following us through our.

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Social media accounts We have our INSTAGRAM Is w a

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tigers b b, as in basketball, so follow us keep

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up with us. On the socials it's the Same, handle for,

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twitter and yeah we'll post all, of our, games our

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schedule anything that's posted online, or streaming online we'll post those.

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Links as well, so just yeah for everyone who's interested

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in what, wasspatch is doing please just stay involved in our.

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Social media, accounts and yeah we just we. Appreciate the

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support we appreciate having this platform to come on and

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just give highlights of how our season is going and.

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Highlight our players we just, are truly, thankful and yeah

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hopefully we can stay healthy and close out. This year strong.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully you can i'm Gonna Be watching junior county, lookout.

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For him.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully you know sorry for those of you, kids out

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there you're going to be on, a highlight tape.

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Speaker 3: But it's. Okay i'm, on tyler says you listen.

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Speaker 2: Highlight tape if you go, look At It AND jalen

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brunson's i had learned VERY quickly that i was not

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going to make it and play at.

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Speaker 3: The next level.

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Speaker 2: But THAT'S okay so i see those GUYS play and, i,

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WAS like hey I could say i played against the

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likes of That And watched. Jabari parker dunk jabbar was,

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In my award so it's a little bit doesn't. Hurt

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As Much but jalen brunson was cooking me before he

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was cooking everybody else. IN the league i like to

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take that with the with, the GREAT assault so i

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like to be funny.

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Speaker 3: With that one.

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Speaker 5: I'm not lying you guys are on the. Same floor.

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Speaker 2: TOGETHER that's hey i got, to SAY yes and i

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made A team that i saw, THESE guys like i

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was doing a. LOT of cardio i got Good cardio

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with but that. Was, about It Guys follow Anson Wander.

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On watstatch basketball It's W a tigers bb, check it

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out follow them, on social media And Stay.

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Speaker 3: Up todate andson thanks for, the.

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Speaker 2: Time today brother we'll get caught up with you in

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the next couple of weeks after the holiday season and

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had the.

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Speaker 5: Tournaments have, gone of, Course of course happy holities, to

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you Guys And. Happy new, Year Take Care.

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Speaker 3: Happy new Year We'll let.

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Speaker 2: Anson wander Go That was anson WANDER The by u

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we'd love to see him break down on the pre

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