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<v Speaker 1>Seven oh six fifty five Karised Talk station. Hope you

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<v Speaker 1>have an happy Monday, as is always the case. Former

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<v Speaker 1>Vice Mayor of the City of Cincinnati, Christopher Smithman with

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<v Speaker 1>an advanced morning to me over the weekend via text. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's really ginned up and fired up and ready to

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<v Speaker 1>launch this morning in between now and then, And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure what he's going to talk about, but something

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<v Speaker 1>tells me it may be the violence going on in

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<v Speaker 1>downtown Cincinnati. Joining the program this morning, Welcome back, Fokey,

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<v Speaker 1>President the Federal Order Police Chapter sixty nine for the

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<v Speaker 1>Sincinni Police Department. Ken cober Or, President, Welcome back, Ken.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always great to have you on the program.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, good morning, Brian, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you start out this morning? One thirty this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>Hutchins Avenue, Reading Road to abdel We have someone killed

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<v Speaker 1>in a shooting going back, just looking at the headlines.

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<v Speaker 1>Two teens injured in a West End shooting happened on

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday morning. Three people hospitalized after a shooting near the

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<v Speaker 1>banks happened on Saturday morning. Police investigating incident believed to

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<v Speaker 1>involve shots fired at officers in Westwood happened Saturday night,

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<v Speaker 1>got a winon hill shooting police investigating that was happened

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday night as well. I mean, the list is almost endless,

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<v Speaker 1>and it seems to be getting worse. Ken Cobert, your reaction,

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<v Speaker 1>and plus the list that Joe Strecker compared he got

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<v Speaker 1>from the since A Police department showing all of the assaults, thefts,

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<v Speaker 1>and other arrests that happened, mostly like in the central

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<v Speaker 1>business district of Downtown over the past several days leading

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<v Speaker 1>up to the fourth of July holiday weekend. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is crazy, Ken.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean, let's not forget too On fourth

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<v Speaker 2>of July, we had a two police officers that were

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<v Speaker 2>shot at that after watching the video, one of them

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<v Speaker 2>especially is absolutely lucky to be alive. I mean, by

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<v Speaker 2>the grace of God, he didn't get hit by some day.

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<v Speaker 2>It was almost almost point blank range. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And where did that happen?

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<v Speaker 2>That was on Western Norman Boulevard, an apartment complex, investigating

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<v Speaker 2>a US passing complaint. Oh my god, violent, violent weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>I talked to two ulcers yesterday, both of them been

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<v Speaker 2>on more than twenty years. They said this weekend has

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<v Speaker 2>been the worst weekend they've worked in their careers, the violence,

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<v Speaker 2>the droves of kids unsupervised, you know, just creating absolute mayhem.

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<v Speaker 2>At one point would have been Sunday morning, the District

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<v Speaker 2>four was calling for standby cars meeting. They needed more

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<v Speaker 2>cars to help them because nearly every third shift car

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<v Speaker 2>was at the jail with the prisoner.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my lord, and you're short on numbers too. And

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<v Speaker 1>it can't be understated that we don't have enough police

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<v Speaker 1>officers out there. And the police officers that are out

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<v Speaker 1>there are working substantial overtime hours. So what would you expect.

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<v Speaker 1>Jostrecker told me the Indianapolis had a violent weekend and

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<v Speaker 1>the mayor there immediately instituted a curfew.

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<v Speaker 2>We do it.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about this before. There is a curfew, is

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<v Speaker 1>there not for young people in downtown Cincinnati, Ken.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there are absolutely a curfew. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>using District four as an example, you know that they

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<v Speaker 2>can't arrest their way out of this problem when you

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<v Speaker 2>have nine or ten cops that are encountering three hundred juveniles. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's only so much that you can do, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just the violence is absolutely just out of control

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<v Speaker 2>in the city. Like I said, you use Indianapolis as

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<v Speaker 2>another example. You know, they had seven people shot and

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<v Speaker 2>two murdered in one incident. You know, homicide after homicide

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<v Speaker 2>after homicide in Cincinnati. This stuff is just out of control.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you could have your way, I mean, what

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<v Speaker 1>do we have by way of solutions that are out there?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if enforcing the curfew, could we hold parents accountable?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you have to enforce the curfew, bring the

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<v Speaker 1>kid in front of some judicial authority, obviously to get

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<v Speaker 1>their parents involved. And then why did you let your

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<v Speaker 1>kid out pass curfew hours? And maybe get some answers

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<v Speaker 1>from parents who maybe absent here just really don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Lord Almighty, I consider my life growing up.

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<v Speaker 1>My folks need to know where I was all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, you need to ask permission to be

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<v Speaker 1>out past a certain curfew hour. And if you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>ask for mission, you're going to get in a world

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<v Speaker 1>to hurt when you finally got home. I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>kept me out of trouble for the most part anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, but you know it's a good point bringing up

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<v Speaker 2>the judicial system. I know, well, the juveniles I got

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<v Speaker 2>arrested at Red Went and Blue Ash, you know, Friday

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<v Speaker 2>night from throwing fireworks in a crowd of people.

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<v Speaker 1>The video it's so disturbing.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, was arrested Saturday morning at juvenile court. A magistrate

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<v Speaker 2>dismissed the charges. This is the This is part of

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<v Speaker 2>the problem that we're dealing with is we can't arrest

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<v Speaker 2>our way out of this problem. And when you do

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<v Speaker 2>make arrest, you have magistrates in the juvenile court system

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<v Speaker 2>that just decided that I don't like this charge, so

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<v Speaker 2>they dismiss it. So, you know, only one part of

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<v Speaker 2>the justice system seems to be working right now, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's never going to fix things. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a prosecutor there willing to move forward and

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<v Speaker 1>prosecute the charges, and yet the judge just said, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>exercising my discretion. I'm just checking this case out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I my understanding. I believe the prosecutor's office is

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<v Speaker 2>likely going to appeal this decision. Yeah, But like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>you have kids that get arrested, the police do the

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<v Speaker 2>right thing, only for them to be let back out.

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<v Speaker 2>It's no wonder that we're having a problem with all

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<v Speaker 2>these juveniles, not only here in Hamilton County, but across

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<v Speaker 2>the country because this is a problem everywhere in every

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<v Speaker 2>major city.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and if I was in Mayor Aftab Purvoll's place

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<v Speaker 1>or as one of the council members, I would out

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<v Speaker 1>loud say something about that, say listen. In order to

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<v Speaker 1>bring about some safety and some comfort for the citizens

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<v Speaker 1>of Cincinnati and some relief from this epic youth violence problem.

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<v Speaker 1>I am calling upon magistrates and everybody involved in the

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<v Speaker 1>judicial system, from prosecutors through the judges on all levels,

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<v Speaker 1>to start taking these crimes seriously and not throwing them out.

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<v Speaker 1>The silence from the council and elected officials, including the

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<v Speaker 1>mayor is deafening, is it not, Ken?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean absolutely. I mean said, not only have

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<v Speaker 2>you had all this violence, you had two give police

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<v Speaker 2>officers shot at back to back days. Yeah. Absolutely, nothing

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<v Speaker 2>from elected officials. Nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's heartbreaking, Ken, it really is, you feel, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we all feel so let down about it. It's almost

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's tacit approval. If they're not out loud screaming

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<v Speaker 1>about the violence and demanding answers and demanding accountability and

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<v Speaker 1>demanding prosecutions, then they're silence. I think shows support indirect

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<v Speaker 1>or tasked support for the violence that's going on. In

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<v Speaker 1>other words, kids, keep it up because nothing is going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And to be quite honest, the cops are fed

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<v Speaker 2>up with it. They're done with it. You know, the

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<v Speaker 2>every weekend you have cops working Friday and Saturday nights

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<v Speaker 2>with SWAT, CDRT. You're working over time. It's going to

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<v Speaker 2>come to a breaking point where cops are just going

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<v Speaker 2>to say, I'm not doing it anymore. I'm wasting my time,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not doing it anymore. And then what's That's when

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<v Speaker 2>that's when things are really going to get bad. As

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<v Speaker 2>if it's not bad enough already.

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<v Speaker 1>Are the number of officers planning on retiring or taking

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<v Speaker 1>early retirement or just basically dropping out of law enforcement?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you get any indications those numbers are going up

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<v Speaker 1>right now? Are they getting warse sure?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's weekly. We're losing people weekly. That just

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<v Speaker 2>that the people that weren't even really on the radar,

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<v Speaker 2>if you will, of Hey, I'm going to retire. I

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<v Speaker 2>got a classmate of mine that just said I'm out,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm done, and he's yeah, I think the end of

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<v Speaker 2>this month, he's done. He's not staying for the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the drop program. He's like I've had enough on out.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and you know, in terms of lateral hires, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know the Council has taken steps to try to

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<v Speaker 1>bring more lateral hires and officers that have experienced some

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<v Speaker 1>other law enforcement. It's a shorter window of training, not

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<v Speaker 1>like a brand new cadet class, and those are in

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<v Speaker 1>line too. But I mean, if it's bad, that bad

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<v Speaker 1>morale wise, and from an officer considering employment of the

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<v Speaker 1>insane Police Department, here's about this, Like wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be out there putting my life on the line,

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<v Speaker 1>spinning my wheels, and they're going to get just freed

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<v Speaker 1>by the justice system because well the magistrates, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a legitimate charge. What's the point I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go in with a bad taste in my

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<v Speaker 1>mouth as a potential employee.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, because it's going on in every department around this country,

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<v Speaker 2>to be quite honest. So I think they're they're looking

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<v Speaker 2>at it as the financial benefit of coming here, because

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to do pretty well. I mean, over time

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<v Speaker 2>is so readily available, you can make as much money

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<v Speaker 2>as you want. And I think that's what a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of officers are going to be coming here.

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<v Speaker 1>For well, at least, I guess that's one bright spot

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<v Speaker 1>in the whole equation. We have officers that are still

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<v Speaker 1>willing to work for this insane police department. But it's real,

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<v Speaker 1>it's heartbreaking to know that this is happening broadly and

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<v Speaker 1>across our country. Of course, I can only blame the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats for their anti police policies, and of course all

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<v Speaker 1>the liberal prosecutors and liberal judges that they put in

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<v Speaker 1>place in these various blue cities. They're getting what they're

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<v Speaker 1>asking for, it seems, Ken.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, it's absolutely disgusting that you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>elected officials speaking out against his violence. That you're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to judges saying hold these people accountable, just not occurring,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's's why we're in the position that we're in. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, not a pretty picture you're painting today, at Ken Kober.

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<v Speaker 1>But at least we get to talk about it and

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<v Speaker 1>raise everybody's awareness to it, and maybe we can start

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<v Speaker 1>making demands on our elected officials, like threaten them with

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<v Speaker 1>being chucked out of office in November. There's an option,

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<v Speaker 1>Ken Cobert, God bless you and each and ever remember

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<v Speaker 1>the police department We obviously appreciate how tough it is

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<v Speaker 1>to do your job every day, and I'm a little

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<v Speaker 1>disappointed that so many more are retiring. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't shock me in any way, shape or form,

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<v Speaker 1>given this the current climate. God bless you man. Keep

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<v Speaker 1>up the great work, and you're always have a venue

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<v Speaker 1>here to talk about what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, thanks for having me, Brian.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Ken, always a pleasure. Christopher Smithman up next. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what he wants to talk about first. Oder

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<v Speaker 1>Exit won't get rid of the stench of that particular issue,

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<v Speaker 1>but it will work on all the other odors you

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<v Speaker 1>run into during your daily life. You know, food odors,

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<v Speaker 1>pet odors, mold, mildews, smoke. Now it works on all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of surfaces as well, you know, concrete, flooring, fabric.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I just just different products out there that odor Exit makes.

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<v Speaker 1>And they've been at this more than twenty five years,

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<v Speaker 1>locally owned and operated and manufacturer products as they do

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<v Speaker 1>work guarantee. That's what I like to emphasize. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>take my word for it, although it has worked for

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