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You kind of made me still 39 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,079 young right there with that one. Dude. 40 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 3: I remember, just a few years ago, we had an 41 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,760 alumni game at Lavelle Edwards Stadium, and I saw a 42 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,200 man that still could throw a sixty mile an hour 43 00:01:53,719 --> 00:01:57,799 football to the opposite hash on a deep comeback, on 44 00:01:57,879 --> 00:01:59,920 a deep out. And I said to myself, of my 45 00:02:00,319 --> 00:02:02,599 he's better than Philip Rivers. I said to myself, he's 46 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,959 better than all these old heads that get a chance 47 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,840 in the NFL. That was John Beck that I saw 48 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:08,400 at level. 49 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate that. Buddy, me, Austin and Dennis had 50 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,199 to go put a little practice time in the week 51 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,039 leading up to that, so that's kind of help that 52 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,439 out a little bit. But it is crazy seeing Philip 53 00:02:17,479 --> 00:02:20,479 Rivers out there. You know, what a cool opportunity for 54 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:21,960 him to get out there and spin it once again. 55 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,319 I think all of us old quarterbacks, you know, we 56 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,560 all would go back in a flash and just be like, man, 57 00:02:26,599 --> 00:02:29,080 for sure, I go back out there, play a little bit, 58 00:02:29,159 --> 00:02:29,800 have a little fun. 59 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 3: What provides a like retired quarterback or one of those 60 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,360 old head the unks of the quarterback world. 61 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,719 Speaker 2: To get the opportunity again? John? 62 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 3: Like Philip, how did he get the call? Why didn't 63 00:02:43,759 --> 00:02:45,680 you know, anybody else get the call? I mean, we've 64 00:02:45,719 --> 00:02:50,000 had Fitzpatrick and I you know, I I think Andy 65 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,759 Dalton's still playing ball in the league, you know what 66 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,159 I mean, He's a contemporary of ours, and I'm just like, like, 67 00:02:56,199 --> 00:02:57,400 what gives them the opportunity? 68 00:02:57,439 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: Do you think? 69 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,759 Speaker 4: Well, first off, Philip Rivers is a whole and so 70 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,639 you can do a lot. When you're moving somebody or 71 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,719 bringing somebody in that is a Hall of Famer, there's 72 00:03:05,759 --> 00:03:07,520 going to be no you know, no one can sit 73 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,080 there and question the person like can they do it? 74 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,479 Of course they can do it. They did it for 75 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,719 a very long time at a really high level. The 76 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,599 second thing, it's always about relationships. When you see guys 77 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,159 standing on rosters, getting second opportunities to come back in 78 00:03:22,199 --> 00:03:25,120 the league, or kind of following a coach different places, 79 00:03:25,199 --> 00:03:26,800 or actually, I should probably say when you see a 80 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,159 coach bringing a quarterback places with him, it always comes 81 00:03:30,199 --> 00:03:32,639 down to relationships. Like at that level, there are so 82 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,240 many skilled players, so many guys have worked hard, but 83 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,000 when you get somebody that has experience in a system, 84 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,400 that just provides so much value. And so really what 85 00:03:42,439 --> 00:03:44,719 it is is Philip is a guy that has tons 86 00:03:44,719 --> 00:03:47,759 of experience in that system. He's really good friends with 87 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,520 Shane Steichen. Shane is a guy that came up through 88 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,639 the Chargers organization as an assistant, as a position coach, 89 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,400 as a coordinator, and then he goes over and he 90 00:03:57,439 --> 00:04:00,280 brings Philip to Indian You know, all of those things 91 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,400 lead to being able to do what they did of 92 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,719 bringing Philip Rivers back. And you know, look, I mean 93 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,000 I also know Philip has a place in Alabama, build 94 00:04:07,039 --> 00:04:10,159 a football field on it. He runs his son's training 95 00:04:10,159 --> 00:04:12,240 stuff there, and he actually has a lot of college 96 00:04:12,319 --> 00:04:15,520 quarterbacks that at times will bring some of their wide 97 00:04:15,599 --> 00:04:18,720 receivers to train at Phillip's place. And so he basically 98 00:04:18,759 --> 00:04:22,920 has a football practice facility. And you can bet on it. 99 00:04:22,959 --> 00:04:25,240 When somebody loves the game as much as he does, 100 00:04:25,759 --> 00:04:28,000 he's not just watching other people do stuff. He's still 101 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,560 getting out and throwing the ball here there to have 102 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,680 some fun. You know, when you have a son that 103 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,040 plays quarterback and you're on the receiving end of a 104 00:04:34,079 --> 00:04:37,040 lot of throws, your arm stays in pretty good shape. 105 00:04:37,439 --> 00:04:39,600 You know, because of my job as a quarterback coach, 106 00:04:39,639 --> 00:04:41,439 I'm on the other end of a lot of throws, 107 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,839 and so my arm has been able to stay in 108 00:04:43,879 --> 00:04:46,560 pretty good shape over all these years, just because of 109 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:47,959 how much throwing you around. 110 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 3: And you were already a lower half rotational torque thrower 111 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,120 with a really quick release from the ear, if I remember, 112 00:04:57,399 --> 00:04:59,680 like so, you haven't had as much strain on your 113 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,879 showld because of your mechanics, I think growing up from 114 00:05:02,879 --> 00:05:06,199 what I remember, that's what I recall about your mechanics. 115 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 4: Well, thanks, I mean I appreciate that. I think a 116 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,639 lot of it goes back to my baseball days. Played 117 00:05:12,639 --> 00:05:17,199 a ton of baseball, always hitting the baseball. My dad 118 00:05:17,319 --> 00:05:20,360 was very much trying to be a forward thinker, and 119 00:05:20,439 --> 00:05:24,319 so I grew up with a lot of bands, light, dumbbells, 120 00:05:24,639 --> 00:05:27,000 all types of different little training things to kind of 121 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,560 help me as a thrower. Because I was a scrawny, 122 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,519 little weakling growing up, I had to work really hard. 123 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:35,759 But because of that, when all of a sudden my 124 00:05:35,759 --> 00:05:38,240 body finally caught up, all of those things that I 125 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,600 was doing helped and you know, people out all the 126 00:05:40,639 --> 00:05:43,079 time like hey, where'd you get your quick release? It 127 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,279 was from baseball and just the millions of hours that 128 00:05:46,319 --> 00:05:48,480 I spent in trying to get better as the middle 129 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:49,399 and so during baseball. 130 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 3: Speaking of baseball players, Jake Retzloff is in the college 131 00:05:53,519 --> 00:05:58,000 football playoff leading the Tulane Green Wave against Ole Mesh. 132 00:05:58,519 --> 00:06:03,560 Give me your perspective on on Jake's journey right, obviously 133 00:06:03,759 --> 00:06:05,920 still very positive, loving towards BYU. 134 00:06:06,319 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 2: You know, in his experience. 135 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,399 Speaker 3: He went onto the From the Logo podcast with Jimmer 136 00:06:10,399 --> 00:06:13,560 Ferdett and Spencer Lynton and just discussed you know, some 137 00:06:13,639 --> 00:06:16,199 of his most difficult times have turned into his best times. 138 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:17,759 One of his best sotsuits he ever made was coming 139 00:06:17,759 --> 00:06:20,720 to BYU. Obviously didn't want to take that seven game suspense. 140 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,040 I ended up walking on at Tulane and now he 141 00:06:23,319 --> 00:06:26,040 led them to an eleven and two season and opportunity 142 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,959 to beat oh Miss a great seeding, a great draw 143 00:06:30,079 --> 00:06:33,560 for him in that Green wave, considering Lane Kiffin is 144 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,759 now at LSU. But give me your thoughts or perspective 145 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,480 on the journey of Jake Retslaw. 146 00:06:40,439 --> 00:06:43,519 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I'm really happy for Jake. You know, 147 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,600 when Jake was on his way out of BYU, he 148 00:06:46,759 --> 00:06:49,360 still had nothing but great things to say about the 149 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,800 university and his experience, even though it didn't end the 150 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,879 way that he had hoped, and it happened in such 151 00:06:54,879 --> 00:06:58,279 a strange way. I think that Jake, you know, once 152 00:06:58,319 --> 00:07:00,800 that initial thing happened and he you know, had to 153 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,800 have the dust settle and deal with the reality of 154 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,439 the position he was in, I think that he took 155 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,839 a stance of all right, Well, I got to move forward, 156 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,160 and he found a great place in Tulane, a place 157 00:07:12,199 --> 00:07:14,279 that welcomed him. He had to battle, you know. That's 158 00:07:14,319 --> 00:07:16,519 what also, I don't know if everybody realizes, like it 159 00:07:16,639 --> 00:07:19,680 wasn't where they just handed him the job. This was 160 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,879 not a university that said, hey, I guarantee you'll be 161 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,879 our starter. All they provided him with was an opportunity 162 00:07:24,879 --> 00:07:27,360 to compete and say, well, I mean, shoot, we'd love 163 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:28,519 to have you and if you can be the best 164 00:07:28,519 --> 00:07:30,240 guy here, and they come to be that guy, and 165 00:07:30,279 --> 00:07:33,279 so you know, to get there in June whenever he 166 00:07:33,319 --> 00:07:36,319 got there to compete to earn the job. I believe 167 00:07:36,399 --> 00:07:39,439 in training camp the other guy had some little injuries 168 00:07:39,759 --> 00:07:41,519 that kind of kept him out for a little while, 169 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,079 and I think Jake just rolled and they never looked back. 170 00:07:44,839 --> 00:07:47,199 I watched his first game to start the year, because 171 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,839 I believe it was against Northwestern if my memory's right, 172 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,240 and I want to say Jake ran for a bunch 173 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,120 of yards in that game. You know what, It's just 174 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,000 been cool to see Jake take the opportunity that he's 175 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,639 been given. And you want to talk about a unslinger 176 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,040 like Jake's mentality is that you know and I think 177 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,199 that he's evolved over his time as a D one 178 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,600 college football player. I think he's grown in a lot 179 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,199 of areas. I think he's he's learned how to, you know, 180 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,959 improve and be smart with the ball. And I know 181 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,040 he's playing with a little bit of a bum leg 182 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,120 right now and he's not able to run as much. 183 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:19,879 But you know, at the end of the day, Jake's 184 00:08:19,879 --> 00:08:22,600 a competitor. He's a great person. He's will will always 185 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,680 speak highly of his experience at BYU, and I think, 186 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,600 what a cool ambassador to go to some place which, 187 00:08:27,639 --> 00:08:29,800 if my memory is right, also Tulane is a very 188 00:08:29,839 --> 00:08:32,759 high Jewish population of students, and I think, what a 189 00:08:32,759 --> 00:08:35,759 cool opportunity to go represent his faith and to play 190 00:08:35,759 --> 00:08:37,399 in front of a crowd with a lot of people 191 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,879 that share his faith as well. And he's been a 192 00:08:39,879 --> 00:08:42,759 great ambassador for BYU being somebody of the Jewish faith, 193 00:08:42,799 --> 00:08:44,840 And you know, I mean, I think it's just it's 194 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,720 worked out for him, you know, And if you look 195 00:08:46,759 --> 00:08:50,000 at both parties, you know, Bear steps in takes over 196 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,000 as the guy. A lot of good things have happened 197 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,360 with Bear, and a lot of good things have happened 198 00:08:53,399 --> 00:08:55,840 with Jake. And he might be one of those guys 199 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,440 that says, you know, down the road, even though it 200 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,240 was disappointing and I wanted to end at Uyu, he 201 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,559 may say this was a great experience at Tulane and 202 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,120 he wouldn't want to change it. And he's getting an 203 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,639 opportunity now to compete as a playoff quarterback. And I 204 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,799 think they have a really good opportunity as well because 205 00:09:09,799 --> 00:09:12,120 of the coaching situation at ole Miss, with the departure 206 00:09:12,159 --> 00:09:14,519 of Lane Kiffen and some of his staffs. I think 207 00:09:14,519 --> 00:09:16,720 they got a great opportunity to shock the world and 208 00:09:16,799 --> 00:09:17,399 maybe pick up. 209 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,639 Speaker 3: A w love that breakdown and I can't wait to 210 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,159 see what Jake and the TWU Lane Wave can do. 211 00:09:24,159 --> 00:09:25,759 Speaker 2: Hopefully they shock the world. 212 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 3: John Beeley, who's got a bowl game that they're prepping for, 213 00:09:28,919 --> 00:09:33,879 Bear Bachmeier and the BYU Cougar's heading into Orlando with 214 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,080 an opportunity to beat Georgia Tech, a top twenty five team. 215 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:42,559 It's a rarity to have BYU matched up historically against 216 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:47,159 a ranked opponent. You have ninety six with Kansas State, 217 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,039 you have the Vegas Bowl with Oregon State in two 218 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,399 thousand and nine, you had Colorado last year. You know 219 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,080 some of the the eighties games, I guess you know 220 00:09:57,159 --> 00:10:00,440 you have, like the Holiday Bowl Holiday Bowls where you 221 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,679 were facing some formidable foes in the eighties in a glory. 222 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: Era of BAU football. 223 00:10:06,399 --> 00:10:11,039 Speaker 3: But how much does a bowl win in the modern 224 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:16,840 era determine maybe the legacy of a season, right and 225 00:10:16,879 --> 00:10:17,960 how it's remembered. 226 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:18,799 Speaker 2: Do you think. 227 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 4: You know? That's an interesting question because I think there's 228 00:10:22,759 --> 00:10:26,840 probably different standpoints on that, some coming from players, some 229 00:10:26,879 --> 00:10:29,799 coming from a stand base. If you're a player on 230 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,960 the team where this is your final college football game, 231 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,759 I'm going to go back in the archives here to 232 00:10:34,879 --> 00:10:37,639 coach Jeff Grimes. And when he spoke to the seniors 233 00:10:37,639 --> 00:10:41,759 of my class, he told our class, you will always 234 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,799 remember the last football game you played in. And He's like, 235 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,840 I know it sounds funny, but for whatever reason, you 236 00:10:46,879 --> 00:10:49,360 play all of these games throughout your career. Some of 237 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,399 you have played forty games, some of you thirties, some 238 00:10:51,399 --> 00:10:54,639 of you in the twenties, whatever it is, you always 239 00:10:54,639 --> 00:10:57,159 remember that last game. And so he challenged everybody to 240 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,240 go out the right way, invest in all those practice says, 241 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,360 make it matter, and go out on top with a win, 242 00:11:03,759 --> 00:11:06,720 and I'll say, like, as a former player, I love 243 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,600 that the opportunity that we had to finish a season. 244 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,799 To me, that game is part of that season, especially 245 00:11:13,879 --> 00:11:16,399 because how it ended with the fans on the field 246 00:11:16,399 --> 00:11:18,960 and everybody being super excited. You know, it kind of 247 00:11:19,039 --> 00:11:21,320 capped off a great season. You know. Do I think 248 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,679 that if BUYU beats Georgia Tech that it'll feel like, 249 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,200 oh yeah, there's absolutely capped off a great season. It 250 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,279 may not feel that exact same way because everybody wanted 251 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,360 YU to be in the playoffs, and I think it 252 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,000 was a major letdown when really everybody voting just seemed 253 00:11:36,039 --> 00:11:39,440 like they just left BYU out. But for the seniors 254 00:11:39,879 --> 00:11:42,759 it absolutely does matter. And then if you're a coach 255 00:11:42,799 --> 00:11:46,200 on that team, you want the momentum to continue. This 256 00:11:46,279 --> 00:11:49,200 is a winning football program. Kilani and the rest of 257 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,840 the coaches there, along with their recruits have built something. 258 00:11:53,159 --> 00:11:55,559 They have built winners. And so what do winners do 259 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,759 when they step on the football field. They play to win. 260 00:11:58,159 --> 00:12:00,679 And so the hope would be that everybody recognizes the 261 00:12:00,759 --> 00:12:04,320 momentum that a Bowl win can provide going into the 262 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,360 next offseason. And you know, whether the fan base wants 263 00:12:07,399 --> 00:12:09,799 to say that the win caps off a great season 264 00:12:09,879 --> 00:12:11,960 or not, like that's that's up to each individual fan. 265 00:12:12,039 --> 00:12:15,480 But I just think it would be a travesty in 266 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,960 such a good season that BYU has had, one that 267 00:12:18,039 --> 00:12:21,320 should be remembered, and quite honestly, it will be hard 268 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,399 to duplicate to have a season where you only lose, 269 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,360 your only losses come to a top five team and 270 00:12:27,399 --> 00:12:29,919 potentially one that may be playing in the National Championship 271 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,120 a few weeks from now. Like, this is a great 272 00:12:32,159 --> 00:12:34,279 season and it's going to be hard to continue and 273 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,279 to duplicate. And so I would hope that everybody truly 274 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,000 recognizes just how good of a season it's been, and 275 00:12:40,039 --> 00:12:43,080 because of that, go finish this week and this season 276 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:43,519 with a win. 277 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, John, A big part of that incredible season that 278 00:12:47,879 --> 00:12:51,440 we've had has been Bear Bachmeyer, true freshman had a 279 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,399 great season, especially for a freshman, best in YU history. 280 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,600 I would say, as a fresh best freshman season. What 281 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,279 kind of what improved me? Do you see that Bear 282 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,799 needs to make in this offseason going into a sophomore 283 00:13:04,799 --> 00:13:07,000 season to be able to follow that up and have 284 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,480 a similar or even better season next year. 285 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 4: Well, the great thing about Bear is he's going to 286 00:13:12,879 --> 00:13:16,360 get all of these plays, however, many pass attempts, however, 287 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,639 many times he took off and ran with the ball. However, 288 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,399 many times he had to throw the ball away or 289 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,519 take a stack. All of those things are learning experiences. 290 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,200 He had never been in a practice with BYU and 291 00:13:27,279 --> 00:13:30,360 this offense until he got to training camp, fall camp, 292 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,440 a camp that he ended up competing and winning the 293 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,360 starting job in, and so that feeling of getting all 294 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,840 of that experience and then now building upon it. He's 295 00:13:38,879 --> 00:13:41,000 going to go back through every single game and he's 296 00:13:41,039 --> 00:13:43,240 going to try to improve on decision making. He's going 297 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,440 to improve all what he's seeing, and he's going to 298 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,600 get to have all that experience in his back pocket. 299 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,440 Then he can also go back and say, Okay, from 300 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,080 a physical standpoint, what are some areas that I can 301 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,320 improve some areas that I can improve on? Are maybe 302 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,440 some of my early season Let's look at some of 303 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,919 the downfield throws and why were we just barely off? 304 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,519 Let's look late season, maybe on some of my decision 305 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,919 making where some of these pressure looks, did I have 306 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,200 all the answers? Offenses, when you build an offense, you 307 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,879 want to build it for answers versus a variety of things. 308 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,919 Sometimes in pure progression reads, you have to quickly get 309 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,039 to maybe that third in progression because it is your 310 00:14:17,159 --> 00:14:20,559 hot outlet. Maybe sometimes you have to be able to 311 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,159 identify shelves a little bit better For a true freshman, 312 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,919 I thought he did a great job of recognizing coverages, 313 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,080 but I'm sure that there's some times that he's like, oh, 314 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:29,799 they got the best of me right there. You know, 315 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,240 you can tell in that last playoff game or the 316 00:14:32,279 --> 00:14:35,600 game not playoff with the championship game, that there were 317 00:14:35,639 --> 00:14:37,759 some times that you could tell that the pressure where 318 00:14:37,759 --> 00:14:40,360 his eyes were, what his feet were doing, showed that 319 00:14:40,399 --> 00:14:42,279 it might not have been as clean as a picture 320 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,399 to him. So now you go back and you take 321 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,559 all of those things and you try to clear up 322 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,039 the pictures. Because of experience, you try to improve on 323 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,360 some of those things, and ultimately the goal is how 324 00:14:52,399 --> 00:14:54,480 can I be a more efficient quarterback so we can 325 00:14:54,559 --> 00:14:57,120 keep the chains moving and continue to score points at 326 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:57,759 a higher level. 327 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: John Beg Former b A, You're great to and some 328 00:15:00,799 --> 00:15:04,679 Cougar football here on your Utah ESPN Radio Network, brought 329 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:05,960 to you by Premo Golf Apparel. 330 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,679 Speaker 2: Primo golf Parrel dot com. We gotta get you some 331 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,919 Primo golf apparels. Yeah, I know you're not. 332 00:15:10,279 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 6: How you do? 333 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 4: I know the Premo guys. Yeah. 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Man. 340 00:15:29,519 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 3: Hey U Rider Lions coming to BYU obviously, and Walker 341 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,600 Lions you're talking about, you know, California kids and with 342 00:15:38,679 --> 00:15:40,200 BYU ties Walker Lines. 343 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: Just entered the portal. 344 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,759 Speaker 3: Do you think a four star Walker could end up 345 00:15:43,759 --> 00:15:44,639 in Provo as well? 346 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,039 Speaker 4: Yeah? Absolutely. I'm not a betting man, but if I was, 347 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,200 I would probably bet on it. I think that when 348 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,519 you take a step away from a program like USC 349 00:15:54,639 --> 00:15:56,279 and the direction of that day's kind of gone, and 350 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,600 you know, I think that there's probably some decisions that 351 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,679 it's probably more than just football. It's probably some of 352 00:16:03,679 --> 00:16:07,559 the things that I think a place like BUYU can 353 00:16:07,559 --> 00:16:09,720 provide that a kid like him, I'm sure would love 354 00:16:09,759 --> 00:16:13,720 the opportunity to be around. And I also think with 355 00:16:13,799 --> 00:16:16,399 how much BYU is winning, going back to the culture 356 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,360 that Kilani has built, everybody could recognize it. You know, 357 00:16:19,879 --> 00:16:22,080 I think it's going to be interesting to see how 358 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,720 these last two seasons will impact Bui U's ability to 359 00:16:25,759 --> 00:16:29,120 bring people in in the transfer portal. Because you're not 360 00:16:29,159 --> 00:16:34,039 only providing an atmosphere of quality people of the right 361 00:16:34,159 --> 00:16:37,159 things in life and the way that Kilanie talks about 362 00:16:37,639 --> 00:16:40,720 the program he's developing, but you're backing it up with wins. 363 00:16:41,039 --> 00:16:43,399 I think that you now will grab the attention of 364 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,320 people that want to win the right way with the 365 00:16:46,399 --> 00:16:49,759 right people and get to have an experience that obviously 366 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,320 is a very unique experience. And so you know, I 367 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,399 think it would be awesome for them to be able 368 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,480 to get Walker. And I think that it's probably you know, 369 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,720 BYU's got to be high on it list of schools 370 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:01,639 that he's going to be looking at. 371 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 3: John as we get you know, as we evaluate this 372 00:17:08,039 --> 00:17:12,039 BYU football team, you were part of some great teams 373 00:17:12,759 --> 00:17:15,559 and you know, I think, you know, like that sixth 374 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:17,759 season one of the best in BA football history. I 375 00:17:17,799 --> 00:17:21,680 wonder if BA wins this Bowl game, right ranked opponent 376 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,799 you mentioned, like you you remember that that last game, 377 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:28,240 that Oregon game you bawled out. 378 00:17:28,559 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 2: It was tremendous. 379 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,519 Speaker 3: If BA wins this game, I'm wondering, you know where 380 00:17:34,559 --> 00:17:37,160 this this team will be ranked all time in BAU 381 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:38,039 football history. 382 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 4: I mean, it's got to be up there, you know. 383 00:17:41,759 --> 00:17:46,640 It's just here's the tricky thing. If this was like 384 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,400 a season where you know they're okay, I'm gonna go 385 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,440 back to the ninety sixteen. Okay, the ninety six team 386 00:17:53,519 --> 00:17:58,079 plays against the Wyoming team in Las Vegas that I 387 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,799 believe was it a patchman I think kicked the game 388 00:18:00,799 --> 00:18:03,279 winning field goal. I actually ran out on that field 389 00:18:03,319 --> 00:18:07,279 as the ball was going through the uprights to go 390 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,039 see how tall I was compared to Steve Sarkigan. But 391 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,799 you know, you look at that team that's considered a 392 00:18:13,839 --> 00:18:18,240 great team. They they beat a Wyoming team in the 393 00:18:18,319 --> 00:18:22,119 Whack Championship by a field goal to get into the 394 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,079 Cotton Bowl, you know, and yeah, like an amazing season 395 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,559 all of these wins. That game against that Wyoming team 396 00:18:28,599 --> 00:18:33,160 is so different from the Big twelve championship game against 397 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,720 a top four team in the country. In Texas tech Ye. 398 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,200 You know, So it's just tricky, Like that's why comparing teams, 399 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,160 Like teams aren't ever in the same situation. They're not 400 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,559 playing the same opponents. We like, we remember teams off 401 00:18:46,599 --> 00:18:48,839 what they accomplished. Like my hope for this team is 402 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,279 that they're remembered for what they accomplished rather than where 403 00:18:52,279 --> 00:18:55,200 it felt like there was a letdown, like it you know, 404 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,359 part of the letdown was out of bi used control, 405 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,519 Like are you trying to tell me that James Madison, 406 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,480 who's twenty one and a half point underdog, should be 407 00:19:02,519 --> 00:19:04,880 allowed to be playing in a playoff game? Like I 408 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,119 completely disagree with. If you're going to have the twelve 409 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,279 best teams playing in a playoff format, why is there 410 00:19:12,319 --> 00:19:14,319 a twenty one and a half point underdog in a 411 00:19:14,319 --> 00:19:16,799 playoff game? Are you telling me if BYU were in 412 00:19:16,799 --> 00:19:19,160 that exact game that it would be greater than twenty 413 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,440 one and a half, not even close? And so, you know, yeah, 414 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,319 it feels like a little bit of letdown that byus 415 00:19:24,319 --> 00:19:26,759 out there, but that's out of their control. Like again, 416 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,000 this goes back to BYU has been a very good 417 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,000 football team all season long. They just came up short 418 00:19:33,039 --> 00:19:37,440 against a very good opponent twice, had they not had 419 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,559 to face them again, has BYU's sole lost into Texas Tech. 420 00:19:41,599 --> 00:19:44,359 And let's say they weren't in a conference championship game 421 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,240 and they were going and probably being invited based off 422 00:19:47,279 --> 00:19:49,759 of the old rules, based off of the old rules, 423 00:19:49,799 --> 00:19:52,119 they'd be playing in some really big bowl game somewhere, 424 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,400 you know, and it would feel magical. But because of 425 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,960 a conference championship, because of an outcome, BYU gets left 426 00:20:00,039 --> 00:20:02,720 stout and the season feels different. And that's where I 427 00:20:02,759 --> 00:20:05,400 feel like, I hope that the fan base doesn't take 428 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,720 that route. Even though it feels like a little bit 429 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,640 of a letdown, this is still a really, really special 430 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,279 team and it is going to be hard to continue 431 00:20:14,279 --> 00:20:17,160 to match what this BIU team did this year in 432 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,720 following years. I promised that it's just it's hard to do. 433 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,039 Speaker 5: Yeah, John, I wanted to shift gears here just a 434 00:20:24,079 --> 00:20:25,720 second and ask you a question that you might have 435 00:20:25,799 --> 00:20:29,000 some unique insight on. You are a part of the 436 00:20:29,039 --> 00:20:32,880 Dolphins organization, and it's been pretty well documented that you 437 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,920 know Zach Wilson very well. What do you know or 438 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,880 what do you make of the Dolphins choosing to go 439 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,920 with Quinn Ewers over Zach Wilson, and are we seeing 440 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:47,599 maybe the tail end of Zach's opportunities in the NFL. 441 00:20:49,519 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 4: I mean, look, here's the thing. I know way more 442 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,559 than I can say on a radio show. I mean, 443 00:20:56,599 --> 00:20:59,680 here's here's the thing. I'm just gonna broadly talk about 444 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:04,480 what the NFL does. At times. Sometimes the NFL makes 445 00:21:04,519 --> 00:21:08,680 decisions for the organization and it does not come down 446 00:21:08,759 --> 00:21:13,000 to players or players' abilities to perform on the field, 447 00:21:13,559 --> 00:21:17,000 or necessarily what is going to give the team the 448 00:21:17,039 --> 00:21:19,680 best opportunity to play at their highest level. And although 449 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,319 somebody may come out and say, well, you know, this 450 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,640 decision was made because this player gives us blank opportunity, 451 00:21:27,079 --> 00:21:29,319 there are so many things that go on in the 452 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,960 business dealings of an organization. And when you look at 453 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:37,079 sometimes business dealings when players are owed you know, upwards 454 00:21:37,079 --> 00:21:39,920 of fifty plus million dollars and a backup is being 455 00:21:40,319 --> 00:21:42,319 paid a handful of millions of dollars, and there's a 456 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,440 rookie that is on a rookie contract, and you know, 457 00:21:45,559 --> 00:21:47,400 I mean I've seen it. At the end of seasons, 458 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,799 sometimes the end of season turns into a tryout for 459 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:56,519 the people that are on smaller contracts because you get 460 00:21:56,559 --> 00:22:00,599 to now determine their value going forward. So much of 461 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,240 the NFL is about how do I have the most 462 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,680 good football players on the cheapest contracts. Especially if I'm 463 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,920 going to sign superstars, I have to have I have 464 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,039 to have other people that I can count on on 465 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,119 smaller contracts. And so sometimes opportunities are given to people 466 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,039 to find out can this person be somebody on the 467 00:22:22,079 --> 00:22:25,519 contract that they're on, And it just it doesn't always 468 00:22:25,519 --> 00:22:27,279 come down to, all right, we've got to put the 469 00:22:27,279 --> 00:22:29,200 best people on the field to go get a victory. 470 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,079 It's just it doesn't. And that's that's all I'm gonna 471 00:22:32,079 --> 00:22:35,279 say on that thing. There's there's always way more going 472 00:22:35,319 --> 00:22:38,400 on within the building than people know about. 473 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 3: Great insight. There john a final question for you, and 474 00:22:41,759 --> 00:22:44,839 we'll let you go. We appreciate you joining us as always. Uh, 475 00:22:45,079 --> 00:22:47,759 you remember your final game? It was that that Vegas 476 00:22:47,759 --> 00:22:50,000 ball you balled out. It was one of the greatest 477 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:54,279 performances I think from a by quarterback in history, and 478 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:55,359 definitely in. 479 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 2: A Bowl game. 480 00:22:56,799 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 4: Uh. 481 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 2: What do you remember about that game? 482 00:22:58,720 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 4: Number one? 483 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,599 Speaker 3: And what was favorite throw or favorite play of that game? 484 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,200 I have a couple in mind. I want to see 485 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,000 what you have to say. 486 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 4: I remember going into the game, Oregon had one of 487 00:23:10,519 --> 00:23:14,240 the best secondaries that we have faced all year. I 488 00:23:14,319 --> 00:23:18,599 believe the top secondary in the pack twelve. Where were 489 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,279 they the twelve or ten pack? Ten pack ten? Okay, 490 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,920 So I mean that's funny. I played against two of 491 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,359 those guys later in the NFL, so we knew they 492 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,799 were talented. It's funny. I just remember being on the 493 00:23:29,799 --> 00:23:32,640 bus ride talking to some of the receivers, like, guys, look, 494 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,319 we're probably gonna to hit some back shoulder throws early 495 00:23:35,759 --> 00:23:38,400 because if we just tried to go downfield early on 496 00:23:38,519 --> 00:23:41,680 these guys, these guys cover really well. There was a 497 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,640 lot of things that we knew we were gonna have 498 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,200 to kind of check to. I remember we had a 499 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,960 bunch of drops in the beginning of the games, and 500 00:23:50,039 --> 00:23:52,359 I remember just trying to be like, you know what, 501 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,880 I'm just gonna stay settled in, Like the defense isn't 502 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,079 giving anything up right now, so it's not like we're 503 00:23:58,079 --> 00:24:01,400 falling behind. We're just about to click, you know, like 504 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,039 we're almost there. And then some things clicked. I I 505 00:24:05,079 --> 00:24:06,839 you know, I would say that there were a couple 506 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:11,359 of throws to Johnny. One was on like a slot 507 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,440 fadeball and this guy covered him really, really well. And 508 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,640 I remember when I threw it, feeling like this is 509 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,079 either gonna land perfectly in the bucket or Johnny's gonna 510 00:24:20,079 --> 00:24:21,720 have to go up to get it. And I just 511 00:24:21,759 --> 00:24:24,000 remember he kind of shielded his guy when right over 512 00:24:24,039 --> 00:24:26,359 his shoulder, right in the bucket. And then there was 513 00:24:27,079 --> 00:24:27,720 the right. 514 00:24:27,599 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 2: Towards our sideline, right we threw it to your right. 515 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 4: I think that one was the one I threw back 516 00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:36,559 shoulder tobout our sideline. Okay, yeah, the origin stride. But 517 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,240 there was another one. We were backed up and coach 518 00:24:39,279 --> 00:24:43,359 and I called like not a backed up drop back pass, 519 00:24:43,519 --> 00:24:45,640 like you're just like, whoa, we're going with this right here. 520 00:24:46,079 --> 00:24:48,279 And but I remember this feeling of like, you know what, though, 521 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,960 like we've been running this play for so long, it's 522 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,640 a staple. I'm a little surprised this was the call, 523 00:24:53,839 --> 00:24:56,400 but we'll roll with it. And there was just this 524 00:24:56,599 --> 00:24:59,799 little itty bitty window and I just remember like this 525 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,240 is when it's fun. Man. You just got ultimate trust. 526 00:25:03,559 --> 00:25:05,680 And I remember just letting it fly and Johnny caught 527 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,559 it and ran for a bunch of yards afterwards, and 528 00:25:07,559 --> 00:25:10,680 if I like, if my memory's right, I think Johnny 529 00:25:10,759 --> 00:25:14,599 broke the record for receiving yards, maybe by a tight 530 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,680 end or something in the bowl game. I just remember 531 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,880 he had a ton of yards, had a good game. 532 00:25:21,079 --> 00:25:23,599 You know, it's funny because, like all quarterbacks, the things 533 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,480 that stick out also are the things that don't go 534 00:25:25,519 --> 00:25:28,759 your way. I remember we called the hell Mary before half. 535 00:25:28,839 --> 00:25:31,680 We're already up by a lot, and I remember thinking, like, 536 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,359 why are we calling a hell Mary right here? We're 537 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,000 up by a few scores. But then I remember thinking like, man, whatever, 538 00:25:36,039 --> 00:25:39,119 it's my last game, Like I'm just gonna let it fly. 539 00:25:39,599 --> 00:25:42,000 And so I threw it, and I remember like Johnny 540 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,319 was kind of the main point jumper. I watched him trip, 541 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,119 he fell on the ground, and I remember my ball 542 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,200 just went right to this Oregon guy in the chest. 543 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,279 I remember thinking like, oh, freek you gotta be kidding me, 544 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,200 just like it ended up in an interception like yash. 545 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,440 But anyway, you know, that's the funny stuff that you 546 00:25:59,519 --> 00:26:02,559 remember that you know probably nobody else does, But because 547 00:26:02,599 --> 00:26:04,920 it was something that didn't go our way, I remember it. 548 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back. 549 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 3: I'm gonna watch that game now after listening to that 550 00:26:08,839 --> 00:26:13,680 and just rehash it all. John Beck, ladies and gentlemen, 551 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,839 always a pleasure man. Thanks for talking some ball with 552 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:16,359 us today. 553 00:26:17,079 --> 00:26:18,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're welcome, Ben, We'll see guys. 554 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 2: There you go. 555 00:26:19,079 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 3: That's John Beck and that segment was brought to by 556 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,720 Premo Golf Apparel Premo Golf Apparel dot com. 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I 608 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,599 got ap Andrew Peterson by my side, Ronald three man, 609 00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:54,839 we were gonna get into a little cougar byte. 610 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,119 Speaker 2: In this segment. 611 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 3: The Kyle Whittingham saga is one of intrigue to me. 612 00:28:59,519 --> 00:29:03,400 It is it's just so odd how the sequence of 613 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,440 events have occurred. Finally, he's actually gone out in front 614 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,440 of the media. He addressed the media earlier today. We're 615 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,440 gonna get into a few soundbites. There was no official 616 00:29:11,839 --> 00:29:14,799 press conference with his departure because I guess he's gonna 617 00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:19,119 be coaching the bowl game. Morgan Scalley has been named 618 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,359 the new head coach, but he hasn't had a press 619 00:29:23,359 --> 00:29:29,319 conference to unveil his vision of Utah football going forward. 620 00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:32,359 There was just a press release that was given out, 621 00:29:32,599 --> 00:29:35,279 what was it, last Friday, and it was kind of late, 622 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,359 and it's like, oh, yeah, he's stepping down, but he's 623 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,599 not retiring. 624 00:29:39,599 --> 00:29:39,799 Speaker 2: You know. 625 00:29:39,839 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 3: That word got through the grape through the media grapevine 626 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,799 that he's not retiring, and so it almost feels like 627 00:29:45,839 --> 00:29:47,079 he was forced out. 628 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,839 Speaker 2: He was ushered out. 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All right, 667 00:31:31,839 --> 00:31:34,640 let's start off with he hopped on first and force 668 00:31:34,839 --> 00:31:35,880 Kyle hopped. 669 00:31:35,599 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: Onto the down and dirty earlier today. 670 00:31:39,119 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 3: Uh with with Scott Mitchell and this first question I 671 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:47,319 believe was I don't have the exact verbiage and terminology, 672 00:31:47,359 --> 00:31:49,400 but I think you just said, Hey, why did you 673 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,400 step down? Why are you you're leaving the University of 674 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,319 Utah program? This was Kyle Whateham's thoughts. 675 00:31:55,359 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 7: Step down. It's kind of the verbiage. You know, what 676 00:31:58,039 --> 00:32:00,160 does that mean? Are you going to be around? Are 677 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,160 you looking to coach some more you know college pros? 678 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,839 You want to come be a radio host. You can 679 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,400 be you can be my my my assistant radio. 680 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,599 Speaker 8: Yeah, well your psychick, you bet. Well, that's a great question. 681 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,200 What what's on the you know, what is the future hold? 682 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,599 And and I know, you know, I've been on the 683 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:23,400 coaching treadmill for gosh thirty forty years now, and and uh, 684 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,920 you know, you know a lot of you know, a 685 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,799 lot of me wants to say, just relax, take you know, 686 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,960 take some time, uh you know, catch your breath. But 687 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,000 then my competitive juices are there as well, and and 688 00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:38,240 you know, I just I'm just right now in the process. Well, 689 00:32:38,319 --> 00:32:40,000 right now, we're preparing for this ball game, and that's 690 00:32:40,039 --> 00:32:42,720 our entire focus. But after that's over with, I've got 691 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,000 some some thinking to do and and some uh you know, 692 00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:49,359 some you know, just just take a step back and 693 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,400 take it all in and gain some perspective on the situation. 694 00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:54,200 And then aside from there. 695 00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 7: So you you mentioned your last game, what what do 696 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:00,920 you want to accomplished from this? 697 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 8: Is? 698 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 4: Is this? 699 00:33:02,519 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 7: You know, I don't know, I haven't thought about it, 700 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,279 but I'm curious what you want to accomplish. 701 00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 3: Okay, ap, he's got a lot of thinking to do. 702 00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:18,559 He's he's eternally internally evaluating this situation and the opportunities, 703 00:33:18,599 --> 00:33:21,400 Like the biggest job on the market right now from 704 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,680 a head coaching stampoy is Michigan and that's the that's 705 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:29,920 the biggest job. How quickly does Michigan want to move 706 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,599 on a head coach? Are they gonna allow these Bowl 707 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,480 games to kind of play out before they want to 708 00:33:35,599 --> 00:33:38,559 make a sense. They're in turmoil, They're in there's an uprighting, 709 00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:41,319 there's an internal investigation there. They don't want to move. 710 00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:42,960 I mean they want to move fast, but I don't 711 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,119 think they can move all that. 712 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 6: They can't move too fast. 713 00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 3: They can't move fast. So he Kyle has time, is 714 00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:50,200 what I'm getting at. 715 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:50,559 Speaker 4: Yep. 716 00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:53,599 Speaker 3: So I don't know if you want to chime in 717 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,839 on this, Ronnie, you heard what he had to say. 718 00:33:56,039 --> 00:33:58,119 What are your main takeaways? What's the vibe? What's the 719 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,279 feel you're getting from Kyle Reap between the lines? 720 00:34:00,319 --> 00:34:00,559 Speaker 4: For me? 721 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,519 Speaker 9: Brother, Yeah, I mean, look, he gave us I think 722 00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:05,839 exactly everything that everybody's been looking for. Uh yeah, here's 723 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,840 here's why I step down. But I still got competitive 724 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,000 juices in natures I don't. 725 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 2: Want to see I got the juice I got. 726 00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 9: The jewe, I got the juice right. So, look, he 727 00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:16,960 wants to still be a head coach if he didn't been. 728 00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:19,840 Look this very clear, right, I read between the lines 729 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,199 a lot. Look at the proof and of putting. When 730 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,119 someone wants to retire, they retire right, They're like, I'm done. 731 00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:27,639 And for the fact that he hasn't done, that's very clear. 732 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,159 Maybe there was some pushing in the athletic department, I 733 00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:32,280 don't know, but for the fact that he's saying he's 734 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,079 still open to coaching and he's not going to be 735 00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:36,480 the head coach of Utah, start to think where they 736 00:34:36,559 --> 00:34:37,800 worried about Morgan. 737 00:34:37,519 --> 00:34:40,119 Speaker 2: Maybe going elsewhere. But I think Kyle still is. 738 00:34:40,039 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 9: Interested in coaching Ben for this, but he wants to 739 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,960 He was honest, and he's gonna focus on the ball game. 740 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,599 But once that's over been, once that ball game is over, 741 00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:48,840 I think there's gonna be New Year's Eve. 742 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 2: I think that's when Utah plays in that Bowl game. 743 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 9: Best believe you could see even after a day after 744 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,199 and we see this all the time in professional sports, 745 00:34:56,519 --> 00:34:58,320 right in college, even to a degree with the trans 746 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,360 reportal Kyle might be in talks right now for a 747 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,480 job but just telling us that and then when this 748 00:35:03,519 --> 00:35:06,280 is over, you might see a decision made very very quickly. 749 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,519 I would expect that before the new year, and when 750 00:35:09,559 --> 00:35:11,119 we come back, I mean, because we're going to be 751 00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:13,119 off some time in the next couple weeks. I would 752 00:35:13,159 --> 00:35:15,440 think by the time we come back Monday, January fifth, 753 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,360 we would know what the future is of Kyle Whittingham. 754 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,559 Speaker 5: Ape Well, I do have something to say about the 755 00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:25,239 wording that he put out. I don't think he was 756 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,679 ever going to say I'm retiring, because it's in his 757 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,440 contract that when he's done being the head coach of Utah. 758 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,599 Speaker 6: He gets to be part of the athletic department that 759 00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:34,960 was in it. 760 00:35:35,039 --> 00:35:37,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he said, yeah, so if you would. 761 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:41,159 Speaker 5: Never retire, stepping down actually does make sense there now 762 00:35:41,199 --> 00:35:44,519 where he's saying, I still got some competitive juices in me. 763 00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:47,079 That's where I'm saying from earlier in this show, and 764 00:35:47,199 --> 00:35:50,559 I was like, if there's a lucrative deal that's three 765 00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:53,480 to four years, I think he takes it sure. And 766 00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:57,719 so if Michigan decides they really want him, which I'm 767 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,679 going to be completely honest, they should, Yeah, they should 768 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,679 really want a guy like Kyle Winningham because from the 769 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,039 from my sources, people I'm very close to, who know 770 00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:10,159 him very personally, he's exactly the kind of guy that 771 00:36:10,199 --> 00:36:11,280 Michigan needs. 772 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, uh and I hope. 773 00:36:14,519 --> 00:36:19,039 Speaker 3: Relations uh and and just good values. Good values, never 774 00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:23,159 been around controversy, great, the only the only controversy was 775 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,960 uh leecoln Riley said he was a Stein Steeler, so 776 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,880 they could have they could hold that against him. 777 00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 5: But he's exactly the kind of person that Michigan needs 778 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,119 to get on track. Let's let's be clear there. He 779 00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:39,239 would be very good at Michigan. I also part of 780 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:44,960 me thinks that he doesn't. I don't know that Kyle Whittingham. 781 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,119 I know he loves Utah, he absolutely loves them. I 782 00:36:49,199 --> 00:36:52,239 don't know that he loves some of the higher ups 783 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:53,599 at Utah. 784 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 3: I think there's some good that he likes, mister Randall. 785 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:56,880 You don't think he likes Harlan. 786 00:36:57,079 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 6: I don't think he likes Harlan. I don't think those. 787 00:36:59,679 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 5: Two have ever really connected loved each other, but they've 788 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,400 worked with each other because they have to. I don't 789 00:37:07,679 --> 00:37:11,079 know if Kyle wants to work side by side Harlan, 790 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,440 especially if he still is feeling that competitive drive of 791 00:37:15,039 --> 00:37:16,760 I want to be able to do something about what's 792 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,639 going on on the field that might push him to 793 00:37:19,679 --> 00:37:20,280 take a job. 794 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:23,199 Speaker 9: I love it. 795 00:37:23,559 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that. 796 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,159 Speaker 3: Look obviously, the juices are there, as you mentioned and 797 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,440 she mentioned. So let's get back to the sound from 798 00:37:32,599 --> 00:37:35,760 Scott Mitchell, who's interview with him earlier today on the 799 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,159 Down to Dirty on ESP and the fan. 800 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,760 Speaker 7: Is it awkward? Is it weird because you know you're 801 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,360 stepping down, or is this a nice way to have 802 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,679 great closure or you know what's your expectation from this 803 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:48,320 last game? 804 00:37:49,199 --> 00:37:51,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say the latter. I think that it's 805 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,280 going to be. You know, I'm a piece right now 806 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,559 and know the programs in good hands with coach Kalley 807 00:37:58,639 --> 00:38:00,800 and the programs in a good place, and that that 808 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,599 was really my primary objective for coming back this year 809 00:38:03,679 --> 00:38:09,880 is I was just so disgruntled, disappointed, you know, last 810 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,960 year with all the stuff we went through, and I 811 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,760 didn't want I did not want to leave the program 812 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,079 in that state. One I left and so came back 813 00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:20,719 and unfortunately we had an outstanding year, got a great 814 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,079 group of guys, great leadership, and we're able to get 815 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,000 the ship back on track. And you know the program. 816 00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:31,119 Like I said, we got good players, good coaches. Coach 817 00:38:31,159 --> 00:38:33,519 Galery's taken over, so I think the future looks bright 818 00:38:33,559 --> 00:38:36,239 for Utah football. 819 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,599 Speaker 3: Okay, he did not want to go out that way, 820 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,920 not going to a bowl game, falling through remember that 821 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,159 five and seven season. I mean, these are not like 822 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:50,159 blowout losses last year. Utah was very competitive in their 823 00:38:50,199 --> 00:38:53,440 first year in the Big twelve. Right, it's a great effort. 824 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,599 It's a great effort. Just fell short. Didn't want to 825 00:38:56,599 --> 00:38:59,400 go out that way. He came back, the squad was 826 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,599 was was great. They went out and got a new oc, 827 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,440 new offensive staff. They had to they had let go essentially, 828 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:06,760 they had to pushed out Andy Ludwig. 829 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 2: So they went out and found. 830 00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 3: Jason beck in that offense showed up and definitely complimented that. 831 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 2: That awesome defense and a great season. 832 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 3: I mean, you're in the top twenty five, top twenty, 833 00:39:19,559 --> 00:39:22,840 you're top almost essentially a top fifteen team in college football. 834 00:39:23,199 --> 00:39:26,400 Congratulations to Kyle Whittingham, a legendary coach. 835 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 2: I know it's a hot. 836 00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:31,039 Speaker 3: Take and ever's a go all Boe fans are gonna 837 00:39:31,039 --> 00:39:33,239 be ticked off about it, but I think not only 838 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,800 should he be inducted into the Utah Athletics Hall of Fame. 839 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,360 I think you should be inducted into the BAU Hall 840 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,400 of Fame for everything that he's done after BYU, He's 841 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:42,360 been tremendous. 842 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,599 Speaker 2: I wish he like to a certain extent, like BYU fans. 843 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 3: What would BYU football had been had Kyle Whittingham been 844 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,880 the head coach at five through present day? 845 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:54,079 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 846 00:39:54,159 --> 00:39:57,159 Speaker 3: Like, obviously everyone's happy with where BYU's at with Killinie 847 00:39:57,159 --> 00:39:59,440 over the last ten years, especially over the last five, 848 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,400 but you know, Kyle Whittingham could have won a lot 849 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,039 of football games at BUYU. The Bronco era was amazing 850 00:40:06,039 --> 00:40:11,159 and through especially through six through nine, independence was tough. 851 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,599 Speaker 2: They won eight games a season, right, But you wonder 852 00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:15,559 what could have been? 853 00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 3: What would have been if Kyle Whittingham would have been 854 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,840 your head coach from five to present day? 855 00:40:21,039 --> 00:40:23,280 Speaker 6: And I do have another question to add to this. 856 00:40:24,639 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 5: Does Kyle Whittingham feel maybe that he's reached the peak 857 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,320 of what he can at Utah with the resources Utah 858 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,559 has sure and he that competitive juices flowing where I 859 00:40:34,559 --> 00:40:35,639 want to get over the hump and. 860 00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 6: Be in a playoff. 861 00:40:37,039 --> 00:40:41,599 Speaker 3: If you I have nil at twenty eight million, I 862 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:47,119 have the a big ten affiliation, an sec affiliation behind me. 863 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 5: I'm saying, he goes to Michigan, it's to win. Not 864 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,639 only is it to stabilize the program. That's from Michigan standpoint, 865 00:40:54,039 --> 00:40:56,440 He's going there to win a national championship. He's going 866 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,360 to win have one and Lavelle did. Yeah, and he 867 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,480 wants to be like his mentor. And and I can't 868 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,519 blame him it because there there's a real case to 869 00:41:07,519 --> 00:41:10,400 be made where Kyle's sitting there going I've got packed 870 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,960 twelve championships, I've got ten win seasons. 871 00:41:13,519 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 6: This might be as good as it gets here with 872 00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:17,360 the level of investment at least university. 873 00:41:17,679 --> 00:41:20,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's complained about it several times in press 874 00:41:20,159 --> 00:41:23,320 conference saying saying they invested more in credit to that 875 00:41:23,519 --> 00:41:26,480 they're invested in winning more than we are. That might 876 00:41:26,519 --> 00:41:28,519 not that might not be the exact quote, but it's 877 00:41:28,519 --> 00:41:29,360 pretty darn close. 878 00:41:29,639 --> 00:41:33,320 Speaker 2: It's a feeling. It's it's that under like. 879 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:37,159 Speaker 3: That that that that that the vibe you get from 880 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,400 him is that he's he's not happy with because he 881 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:42,239 wants to winning Natty. 882 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 2: He wants to win at all, and he just hasn't 883 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,000 been able to get over that hump. 884 00:41:46,039 --> 00:41:48,519 Speaker 5: And and he feels like, hey, Morgan Scalley can take 885 00:41:48,519 --> 00:41:52,239 it from here, Maybe maybe he can elevate this program. 886 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,760 I feel good about my legacy here. Can I go 887 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:55,920 win a Natty somewhere else? 888 00:41:56,199 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 4: Yeah? 889 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,079 Speaker 2: See what happens? I mean, you can make an armament. 890 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,559 Speaker 3: When Bronco left because he felt like he could only 891 00:42:02,599 --> 00:42:04,559 take theau so far. He take them as far as 892 00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:07,000 they could go, and he needed more resources. He goes 893 00:42:07,039 --> 00:42:09,599 to Virginia. Everyone got more resources, and. 894 00:42:09,519 --> 00:42:11,599 Speaker 5: He got to an Orange Bowl, he got to an 895 00:42:11,599 --> 00:42:15,679 ACC championship, lost to a national championship Clemson. That's pretty 896 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,079 dang good. That's pretty much dang good he got. And 897 00:42:18,119 --> 00:42:20,400 then he kind of after that. 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