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Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Eye on the Ball
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera, He's
Speaker 2: Jagan Zalas. Gotta guy Henry in today for the next
Speaker 2: two hours. If you'd like to call us five two
Speaker 2: oh four, one, six, seventy four forty. Jay got one
Speaker 2: question for you. Okay, where were you in the middle
Speaker 2: of August nineteen eighty seven? Take your time. I want
Speaker 2: a passer fail.
Speaker 3: I mean I would have been here getting ready to
Speaker 3: see uh Dick Tomy start his first season at Anerzon't
Speaker 3: why it's gonna have been somewhere else.
Speaker 2: No, you were probably gonna get in line to watch
Speaker 2: Cam Buy Me Love Oh a debut now this time
Speaker 2: of year.
Speaker 4: My two sisters were extras.
Speaker 2: In that thirty seven years ago. They were extras in
Speaker 2: that they in the in.
Speaker 4: The movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one of them, my sister Lane is in a
Speaker 3: scene where there's a scene where there there you know,
Speaker 3: the guy. The kids, the guy they're in class and
Speaker 3: they're watching a movie, and so what's his name? Patrick
Speaker 3: Dempsey saying he's got his sunglasses on and he's asleep
Speaker 3: watching the movie. And his buddy is behind him talking
Speaker 3: to him. And my sister is right next to him
Speaker 3: in the shot. Yeah, yeah, she's in the shot. So
Speaker 3: she said so to to the left of of of
Speaker 3: the buddy who's talking to Patrick Dempsey was asleep. That's
Speaker 3: my sister. And then my other sister is in the
Speaker 3: scene towards the end where they're at the party and
Speaker 3: and uh, the the girl exposes Patrick Dempsey that he
Speaker 3: paid for her stuff. And there's you know, a bunch
Speaker 3: of people standing there at the party, and my other
Speaker 3: sisters in in that group right in the front. So
Speaker 3: they're both. They're both, I mean, you know, they were
Speaker 3: in it. Yeah, movie start. That's when I moved. I
Speaker 3: moved here get into movies right about that time. Yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I didn't realize that that's.
Speaker 2: Got thirty seven years, thirty.
Speaker 4: Seven years ago.
Speaker 2: It's how long I've been tell thirty seven years.
Speaker 4: That means that they were young when that was going on.
Speaker 2: Oh very well, don't tell your age, but I just
Speaker 2: thought that was interesting. I saw that today. Okay, hey,
Speaker 2: welcome back everybody to Monday. Are you not going to
Speaker 2: be here Friday, Thursday, Thursday, or Friday. So it's a
Speaker 2: short week for you. Good for you. We'll see if
Speaker 2: I get some guests of the rest of the week.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be busy week for everybody. You're taking your
Speaker 2: daughter to San Diego. I'm trying to survive without you.
Speaker 2: I hope I can't. And people I was trying to
Speaker 2: survive without me, see, I hope it op busily with
Speaker 2: you off. Oh by the way, by the way, you
Speaker 2: said a note to all of us Sunday, like three
Speaker 2: days after the fact about Jake's word. I didn't even
Speaker 2: think anything of it because I thought it was okay.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say I can't say that. You
Speaker 2: can't you can say a whole Oh, you can't say
Speaker 2: the whole thing. So you caught in the in the
Speaker 2: in the in the.
Speaker 3: Yeah post, yeah yeah, because we looked at in the
Speaker 3: in the podcast.
Speaker 2: Because I know you were flagging. You were flagging, and
Speaker 2: you're looking like it's okay, isn't it. I just know
Speaker 2: you can't say that's good to know.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean we've said I guess a whole is okay,
Speaker 3: but yeah, but you can't say the other one the
Speaker 3: whole thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I said, I kind of lot this said, okay,
Speaker 2: what's the good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jake doesn't do that very oft.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, but we stirred him up a little.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, well another yeah, he never mentioned I didn't
Speaker 2: even ask him who the guy was who he thought.
Speaker 2: You could probably guess you can yess. But okay, So
Speaker 2: we get about ten days away from the big game
Speaker 2: here in New Mexico plays this weekend. Right, they're almost
Speaker 2: a ten point dog, right, who's an f C. They're
Speaker 2: an f CS team, but they're a good f CS team.
Speaker 2: They win the Nasty Champion. They're like North Dakota State.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're They're one of those teams in that in
Speaker 3: the hierarchy of FCS.
Speaker 2: So that game is what Saturday is on Saturday. Okay,
Speaker 2: So I'm sure we'll see that somewhere.
Speaker 4: I think it's on somewhere. I can't remember.
Speaker 2: That's good to know. So we'll watch that just a
Speaker 2: preview what's coming up.
Speaker 3: And actually that, you know, I think I think that
Speaker 3: helps Arizona to go to be you know, to get
Speaker 3: you know, a look at look at uh New Mexico, Uh,
Speaker 3: you know before because they're not you know, New Mexico's
Speaker 3: not gonna New Mexico is not going to have the
Speaker 3: tape of the Yeah, any kind of look at Arizona
Speaker 3: before they play. So I think that probably benefits Arizona
Speaker 3: more than anything.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, it's not like they'll lead it because of
Speaker 2: a thirty point favorite.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ab out there, but you know, any little thing
Speaker 3: you can help. Look, you don't want to be taking
Speaker 3: any chances.
Speaker 2: No wonder Stupids was afraid of serving somebody on the
Speaker 2: on the ledge over there on six Street watching us
Speaker 2: watching Arizona. Any advantage the advantage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know where that it's got to be
Speaker 3: on TV summer because it's only four games, right, you
Speaker 3: think somebody's gonna put those games on Now, there's a
Speaker 3: there's a there's an early game that the game that's
Speaker 3: in in Ireland, Georgia Tech and Florida State that you
Speaker 3: know that'll be nasturally televised. I know that Hawaii plays there,
Speaker 3: so there's like a nine o'clock game at night on
Speaker 3: that So I'm not seeing where that game. Oh it
Speaker 3: says it's on FS one. Okay, so Mexico Montana State.
Speaker 2: And that's a big deal because I'm sure it's a
Speaker 2: payday for both people.
Speaker 3: Right, and then the game with it with Arizona is
Speaker 3: an ESPN game that's a seven thirty game.
Speaker 2: So okay. In the first week of school, we got
Speaker 2: Henry ready chomping at the bill to get to school.
Speaker 2: He's been bored all summer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks ready to go back to New York.
Speaker 3: You start like today from a week from today.
Speaker 4: Well, that's late, isn't Usually it starts it would start
Speaker 4: like like day right.
Speaker 2: Yes, the traffic already out there, traffic sorry on Speedway,
Speaker 2: you know, everybody coming in the pack and too after
Speaker 2: kids go and be relieved at home.
Speaker 4: Yeah you know.
Speaker 2: Okay, So what else? Practice for football was again today
Speaker 2: they were back. I didn't go to practice or to
Speaker 2: scrimmage on Saturday or whatever it was practice on Saturday. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I texted, I knew you weren't going to go.
Speaker 2: I was gonna kind of go if I was encouraged.
Speaker 2: Anthony decided not to go, and I think, what can
Speaker 2: we look at? And we're looking at stuff but we
Speaker 2: can't write about it, right, so what's the point. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I get the people that go because they have
Speaker 2: to go, you know, the Justin Spears world.
Speaker 3: Like that, Steve, I've been so busy with this, you know,
Speaker 3: move with my daughter and stuff like that that I've
Speaker 3: just not I have no idea what's going on right.
Speaker 2: Now right, I haven't read the storylines myself. But the
Speaker 2: good thing is it looks like t Mac is back
Speaker 2: uh competing, so that's always and uh and the quarterback
Speaker 2: and no is doing really well, so we'll see. We'll
Speaker 2: see what happens with that. Uh. And then the mind
Speaker 2: the Olympic sports. The other sports, we're gonna have someone tomorrow,
Speaker 2: right the golf, we have voy volleyball, so that.
Speaker 3: The second year of volleyball coach at Arizona, she's joining
Speaker 3: us over talk to her. They get their season kicked off.
Speaker 3: I think next week as well. I think I've got
Speaker 3: an exhibition coming up this week.
Speaker 2: I think they had the Red Blue.
Speaker 3: They had the Red Blue over the weekend. So we'll
Speaker 3: just see what what things are looking like for her
Speaker 3: in her second year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I wanted to talk to too, Oh God
Speaker 2: by yourself. The former volleyball coach Dave Rubio. Did you
Speaker 2: see what he's doing.
Speaker 4: He's on like a bike ride across the country.
Speaker 2: Or something from north to south. Yeah. He started at Washington,
Speaker 2: like Vancouver, Washington, coming down to the Mexico you know,
Speaker 2: to San Diego border.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 2: So he's not really a typical but maybe I don't
Speaker 2: think I.
Speaker 4: Don't think he was, Like he's too busy to be
Speaker 4: like like all the time.
Speaker 2: See what you look forward to when you retire? You
Speaker 2: can do whatever you damn please exactly, So we do.
Speaker 2: I wanted to kind of reach it, reach out to
Speaker 2: him and get him on the trail, but we're gonna
Speaker 2: wait till he comes back. Okay, so when he's a
Speaker 2: little rested, because you know what, why would you do that?
Speaker 5: Two?
Speaker 2: How cool was it?
Speaker 4: Three? What are you thinking?
Speaker 2: Yeah? What are you thinking? You know? How fun? I'm
Speaker 2: sure there were times in the middle of the things?
Speaker 6: What that?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 4: What do I get myself into?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you doing?
Speaker 4: Have you have you seen how long it was? It's
Speaker 4: going to take them.
Speaker 2: Well they're in southern californ right now. Okay, so it's
Speaker 2: been like three four weeks. I mean, they're really that long.
Speaker 2: They're taking chunks like sixty miles a day.
Speaker 4: Oh, okay, two, but then they hang out and go
Speaker 4: golfing in between her.
Speaker 2: Three rest man, it's like, what did you do after
Speaker 2: thirty two miles a cycling?
Speaker 4: Threw up?
Speaker 2: Okay for thirty twice? Try to do that for a month.
Speaker 2: Trying to do that for a month. So so that's
Speaker 2: what we'll try to track him down to get that journey.
Speaker 2: To get that journey.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been seeing pictures and stuff. I realized that
Speaker 3: he was doing some kind of a long term by
Speaker 3: excursion whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 4: I just didn't see exactly what it was. But you know,
Speaker 4: because I've been, you know, seeing.
Speaker 3: The pictures and stuff that he's been posting, but not interesting,
Speaker 3: you know, do something like that, you know, I once
Speaker 3: covered a uh I guess it was a competition where
Speaker 3: they rode from here to the Grand Canyon and oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have that. They still do that. I'm not
Speaker 2: too sure what they do have. Yeah, when I've done
Speaker 2: when I was the editor tail, when we used to
Speaker 2: do that story with people who did that often. And
Speaker 2: they have the race across America from one end of
Speaker 2: America to the next and the one you described. Uh, it's, uh,
Speaker 2: you have to be a hardcore to be have to
Speaker 2: be something wrong with you.
Speaker 4: Competitors are too loose to do that.
Speaker 2: They're tough competitors. Man, it's it's it's an adventure. Uh
Speaker 2: that then, did you ever cover? And then we're kind
Speaker 2: of going off track as usual. L walta. That was
Speaker 2: that was a lot of fun because there you go
Speaker 2: to Bisbeean and what's all over the place for freaking
Speaker 2: going past and drink here? Right right? Okay, again, let's
Speaker 2: talk about today's guests.
Speaker 3: Yep, we've got Kevin Guy, head coach of Theirs on
Speaker 3: the Rattlers on the side. He's one of the owners
Speaker 3: of the teas on Sugar Sculls, but as head coach
Speaker 3: of the Rattlers, they won their seventh.
Speaker 4: Championship. Uh he's uh, you know it. We'll have to
Speaker 4: ask him.
Speaker 2: Because they got off to not a great start. I
Speaker 2: think they were two and two at one point.
Speaker 3: They were having some quarterback issues, but they obviously got
Speaker 3: things figured out, went on a stretch, got the number
Speaker 3: three seed in their division, which was kind of unusual,
Speaker 3: but then from there went off and won the won
Speaker 3: the championship and beat the hell out of Massachusetts like
Speaker 3: fifty nine to thirteen or fifty nine to sixteen or
Speaker 3: something like that.
Speaker 2: It was something awful. They were up a whole bunch
Speaker 2: at that.
Speaker 3: They were shut they're pitching a shutout at halftime, which
Speaker 3: is unheard of in the indoor football league.
Speaker 4: So they've won.
Speaker 3: They've won a championship. So we'll get uh, well, we'll
Speaker 3: talk to him. And also just asked me, you know,
Speaker 3: well went on at the Sugar Sculls look simple? They
Speaker 3: had revolving doork quarterback.
Speaker 4: Sure.
Speaker 2: So no, No, it's funny, you said, because you're close
Speaker 2: to him, I like to tease him, as you know, Yeah,
Speaker 2: gonna try to do and I'd like to tease her,
Speaker 2: but he's not in the room.
Speaker 4: That's the best time because what it wants the best way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll say, well, Steve, what tell you ask me
Speaker 2: these questions? So but you know, it's it's gonna be
Speaker 2: fun because he hadn't you hadn't won one.
Speaker 4: It's in the twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that for him, that's long, that's a drought.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we'll talk to him about how that felt.
Speaker 3: Well, especially when the drought is because you've been bringing
Speaker 3: bringing in as a part of the inn Footballague, bringing
Speaker 3: in all these teams who kind of passed you, right,
Speaker 3: you know there's some new teams that have won. You know,
Speaker 3: Bay Area won the championship last year. I think Massachusetts
Speaker 3: won a couple of years ago. So in expansion and good,
Speaker 3: that's the goal to bring in quality. Well, they brought
Speaker 3: in teams that have won championships, so it's made it
Speaker 3: harder for him, but they come back and win one.
Speaker 4: So uh.
Speaker 2: So he's a I called that them Mike Cadrea syndrome,
Speaker 2: right right. You know, you create this monster. Everybody wants
Speaker 2: to be that monster and eventually create what you don't want.
Speaker 2: You know, you created your opponents that are pretty god damn.
Speaker 4: Good exactly, and that that's what he did. So we'll
Speaker 4: talk to him a little bit about that.
Speaker 3: And then at at four fifteen Ken Hockey, Uh yeah,
Speaker 3: athletic director still the baseball coach, right right, and athletic director.
Speaker 3: New athletic director we placed uh uh Jim Monico at
Speaker 3: Pima talk about the their their school.
Speaker 4: Ye're getting started.
Speaker 2: Yeah, see how he feels about it. He got some
Speaker 2: tutoring obviously from Monaco. Now this is his yes, this
Speaker 2: is his baby. Now how does he feel coming in
Speaker 2: and you know, confident or whatever?
Speaker 4: How much more is there to do too?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 2: And what does he plan to do anything? Make changes
Speaker 2: or whatever? So okay, we'll check with him on that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, should be a fine fun conversation.
Speaker 2: We have the lude Olsen camp this week. Uh So,
Speaker 2: a cool lineup this week coming up this week Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
Speaker 2: Sunday coming into town, Kenny lofton uh and uh are
Speaker 2: we coming? Are we coming?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 2: And and there's no Craig this year. Pete Williams of course, uh,
Speaker 2: Donald Harris, I think Benna Davis and some of those guys.
Speaker 2: So Shawn's never attended Kenny and and howve you have?
Speaker 2: So that should be a lot of fun. So if
Speaker 2: you see them around town, there's a reason.
Speaker 4: Let them have their dinner.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh so, And Seawan doesn't make you know he's
Speaker 2: been busy see him on social he was he was sting.
Speaker 3: The word out about all this effort to h for
Speaker 3: kidney disease and stuff. So been a spokesperson for that.
Speaker 3: So he's obviously out there doing a lot more.
Speaker 4: Of that I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize. I'm hoping always speak and maybe half
Speaker 2: yours were listening. His daughter played volleyball, I think at
Speaker 2: Cal or something like that.
Speaker 4: I didn't.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I think so she's getting married now or
Speaker 2: she did. I'm just kind of making a father in law,
Speaker 2: mixing my metaphors or mixing my ideas, which is not
Speaker 2: a not a not a strange thing. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: think I saw some things that were where he's do
Speaker 2: you know what that means? We're all getting old?
Speaker 4: When when when the kids are becoming you know, others,
Speaker 4: and a lot of stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Curs was you know, at his play can Cal and
Speaker 2: playing and that was a coach with him. I think, so,
Speaker 2: you know, we're not young anymore. No, thirty seven years ago.
Speaker 2: We can't buy me long young A long time again.
Speaker 2: I can't believe that.
Speaker 4: I still watch it every once in a while.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it.
Speaker 4: I just love seeing that.
Speaker 3: You know, I'll not go back and see your Yeah,
Speaker 3: yeah you'll see you'll see her.
Speaker 4: So all right, let's take a break. We're going to
Speaker 4: come back.
Speaker 3: Kevin Guy will join us a head coach of the
Speaker 3: IFL champion Arizona rattlers and we'll just see how they
Speaker 3: did it.
Speaker 4: So stick around.
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Speaker 1: This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to Winning the Ball Hero Fox Sports
Speaker 2: fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's Jiggens Sauce. Now, if
Speaker 2: I only have Kevin guy, I'm the champion Arizona. How
Speaker 2: you doing, Coach Kevin?
Speaker 5: They're great guys. How you doing.
Speaker 2: We're doing well. So you've won a number of them. Jay,
Speaker 2: we'll kind of get into that. But you're you're a
Speaker 2: older man compared to the when you won the first one.
Speaker 2: How does this one feel?
Speaker 4: You know, I like the way he.
Speaker 5: Put that, I'm only ten years older than the first
Speaker 5: you know, the the uh, you know, this one feels great.
Speaker 5: I mean just we we had so much adversity this year,
Speaker 5: especially the first half of the season. You know, it
Speaker 5: kind of started with our our head athletic trainer had
Speaker 5: a had a really serious car wreck and at the
Speaker 5: last week of training camp, and and and roder car
Speaker 5: uh you know, four or five six times had a
Speaker 5: serious head injury went out, you know, for the year
Speaker 5: so and then the very next week we play our
Speaker 5: first game. You know, we went out in free agency
Speaker 5: and signed Dalton Steed, the quarterback that won the championship
Speaker 5: the year before for Bay Area, and and and uh
Speaker 5: he got he gets hurt the first half of the
Speaker 5: first game of the season, and he's out for the
Speaker 5: next six weeks. And then we have a rash of
Speaker 5: injuries that that really a lot of our middle pieces.
Speaker 5: You know, when you build a football team, it's it's
Speaker 5: it's your quarterback, your center, you know, you're running back
Speaker 5: on defense, it's your nose, your linebacker, your safety. And
Speaker 5: it seemed like every one of our middle pieces got hurt.
Speaker 5: And three of them were MCLs that were out they
Speaker 5: were gonna be out four to six weeks. Just just uh,
Speaker 5: anything that could happen could happen. You know, our our
Speaker 5: defensive line coach, or especially was coordinator Jeff Jernigan. He
Speaker 5: uh had heart failure and uh I knew something was
Speaker 5: going on with him, and and his health wasn't you know,
Speaker 5: uh up to speed. You know, just he was allowing
Speaker 5: some things to happen as a coach that he normally
Speaker 5: wouldn't allow his personality changed. And finally I kind of
Speaker 5: saw it after the Iowa game and and you know,
Speaker 5: and I just told him, I said, when we land,
Speaker 5: you're going straight to the burger's room. I got to
Speaker 5: find out what's going on with you. And he did,
Speaker 5: and and uh, you know, he's having an heart failure.
Speaker 5: And Doc said he probably wouldn't have another, wouldn't last
Speaker 5: another week if he didn't come in. But wow, you know,
Speaker 5: so he uh, you know, we had that and and uh,
Speaker 5: you know, uh, we had to move on from a
Speaker 5: couple of players. There were some guys that just weren't
Speaker 5: happy with their role and and uh, you know, I
Speaker 5: didn't really like how they were were being used and
Speaker 5: and you know, you can't make everybody happy, but if
Speaker 5: they weren't going to be happy, I wanted to get
Speaker 5: them out of here. And we we kind of moved
Speaker 5: on from some guys from a character standpoint, and and
Speaker 5: you know, and then we started to get healthy and
Speaker 5: and and you know, it all started coming together and
Speaker 5: and it was it was almost like we were in
Speaker 5: the playoffs from misdeed to don because we the Western
Speaker 5: Conference was so competitive this year, we couldn't really afford
Speaker 5: to drop any games or we're going to miss the playoffs.
Speaker 5: And we were just in a different mindset and and uh,
Speaker 5: you know, we really got hot towards the end and
Speaker 5: went on a run and and our guys figured out
Speaker 5: a way to finish it.
Speaker 3: Well, we made Steve mentioned, you know, I'm looking at
Speaker 3: your schedule. You guys were off to one and three
Speaker 3: start while all that's all that stuff was going on.
Speaker 3: You only lost two games rest of the way. Is
Speaker 3: there always, though, especially with the you know, the indoor
Speaker 3: football league where you know, you get a lot of
Speaker 3: turnover and stuff like that in teams a period to
Speaker 3: kind of settle, uh, your your your rosters, settle your
Speaker 3: your team. Sometimes it goes well, maybe sometimes it doesn't,
Speaker 3: and but there comes a point where things kind of
Speaker 3: get in order. Is that Is that a correct way
Speaker 3: to characterize that?
Speaker 5: Well, you know, I guess it comes down to the organization,
Speaker 5: the coach and and and and their philosophy. I'm I'm
Speaker 5: I like to have my answers coming out of training camp.
Speaker 5: I don't like making a lot of changes. I think
Speaker 5: this is a developmental league and you want to develop players.
Speaker 5: And but there's coaches out there that make changes you know, uh,
Speaker 5: if they don't feel like these guys are playing up
Speaker 5: the par But you know, we try to make ear
Speaker 5: at the ratlers. We try to make training camp so
Speaker 5: competitive that we have our answers come out of training now.
Speaker 5: We unfortunately for us, we felt like we had a
Speaker 5: lot of the pieces in place. Now we still we
Speaker 5: added two or three pieces as the year went on,
Speaker 5: but a lot of that was because some other guys
Speaker 5: got hurt. But we felt like we had the pieces,
Speaker 5: and then you know, we started getting injured and then
Speaker 5: it forced us, you know, to bring some new guys in.
Speaker 5: But there was a period of time too that our
Speaker 5: rosters are so small that you know, when you have
Speaker 5: these injuries. That's kind of while we went one and
Speaker 5: three there in that little those first four games, because
Speaker 5: you know, we kind of got roster locked. We couldn't
Speaker 5: make any moves. You know, you're not allowed to cut
Speaker 5: injured players, so you're kind of they're kind of stuck
Speaker 5: on your roster. You know, you only get four injured
Speaker 5: reserve spots, so you got twenty nine spots. Well, you
Speaker 5: play with twenty one and we had about nine hurts,
Speaker 5: so you know, it was it was touch and go
Speaker 5: there for a while. But but yes, personally, I like
Speaker 5: to have all the answers in training camps so we
Speaker 5: can develop our players as a year goes on. I'm
Speaker 5: not a big you know, make a lot of changes,
Speaker 5: you know, we like to develop it or you know,
Speaker 5: some chemistry with our with our team and and uh,
Speaker 5: but some you know, there's some coaches out there that
Speaker 5: do it, and and uh, they've been successful with it.
Speaker 5: But I also think that, you know, are you built
Speaker 5: for the long haul? That's why I always look at it.
Speaker 5: You could there's times that people do it and it works,
Speaker 5: but are you built for the long haul? And and
Speaker 5: and you know, because anybody can catch lightning in the bottle.
Speaker 5: But I've always liked to take the other approach that.
Speaker 2: Said Jay was saying, it's been about four years since
Speaker 2: the last one. How long since last seven? I mean
Speaker 2: we kind of joke with you, but you're used to winning.
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, you you and you love win. You're good,
Speaker 2: You're good at it. How did that feel seven years later?
Speaker 5: Well, you know, you know, we still had some successful
Speaker 5: years in there in the in the five years that
Speaker 5: we didn't win it, but we we went to two championships.
Speaker 5: During that five year, we made it to the championship game,
Speaker 5: but we lost. I mean we we in twenty one,
Speaker 5: we lost to Massachusetts, who we just beat this past
Speaker 5: weekend for the championship. But you know, we lost to
Speaker 5: them on the last play in overtime. You know, we
Speaker 5: had the ball first and overtime, we fumble on the
Speaker 5: one yard line. They get it and kicked the field
Speaker 5: goat and beat us in overtime, and and that's how
Speaker 5: we lost that one. In nineteen, we were undefeated. We
Speaker 5: were undefeated. We were the New England Patriots. Where we
Speaker 5: went undefeated and we played a team that we've already
Speaker 5: played twice in regular season, and uh, you know, we
Speaker 5: wound up losing that game in a close game and
Speaker 5: and uh, I believe we lost by three and we
Speaker 5: all st kicked and got it and a guy that
Speaker 5: wasn't even supposed to be in there or not even
Speaker 5: a part of the play was off sides. And that
Speaker 5: was how that game ended. So you know, it was
Speaker 5: it was tough. And then you know the last two
Speaker 5: years that we got beaten in the semifinals and in
Speaker 5: the first round we just turned the ball over. And
Speaker 5: last year you know, I had to do some soul
Speaker 5: searching because you know, we got beat in the first
Speaker 5: round and we haven't been beaten the first round and
Speaker 5: in almost fifteen years, and and you know, we turned
Speaker 5: the ball over six times, and I just you know,
Speaker 5: Drew Pyele was a great player for us, and and uh,
Speaker 5: you know, he had a rough night. He turned the
Speaker 5: ball over six times, and and uh, you know, I
Speaker 5: just felt like, hey, this is the way we've ended
Speaker 5: it for three or four years now it you know,
Speaker 5: he's a three time MVP. A lot of coaches, I know,
Speaker 5: would have probably been scared to pull the trigger, but
Speaker 5: I was just like, you know what, for whatever reason,
Speaker 5: it's not working for us. So we got to move on.
Speaker 5: And uh, you know, we we were able to get Dults.
Speaker 5: Dult Ste grew up here in Arizona with the high school,
Speaker 5: at the Horizon High School, so you know, I know
Speaker 5: he wanted to come home and we had an opportunity
Speaker 5: to get him, and we got him. And then obviously
Speaker 5: when he got hurt the first first game of the season,
Speaker 5: I was like, man, this whole thing's about to blow up.
Speaker 5: You know, we just kind of kept our heads down,
Speaker 5: kept working and stayed the course and it all worked
Speaker 5: out out.
Speaker 3: So to just to let everybody know, this is your
Speaker 3: second championship in the i FL, and you got five
Speaker 3: in the old Arena Football League, so you've got a
Speaker 3: total of seven. Do you have like rings for all
Speaker 3: of these and like you have a picture of you
Speaker 3: wearing like all the rings, like Joe Montana does or
Speaker 3: anything like that.
Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you what I gotta be. I gotta
Speaker 5: be honest here I got I've won five as a
Speaker 5: head coach and two in the i f L, three
Speaker 5: in the AFL. But I would I would like to
Speaker 5: claim those other two. You tried to get them, Okay,
Speaker 5: so you did. I probably we we you know, I've lost.
Speaker 5: You know, this was my ninth trip. So we won
Speaker 5: five and lost four. So I've lost four championship games.
Speaker 5: But we've had a good run over the years. I
Speaker 5: do have rings. I do have rings. I keep them,
Speaker 5: I keep them locked away. But you know, uh, this one,
Speaker 5: I don't think I've ever won a championship that We've
Speaker 5: had this much adversity and so many different areas of
Speaker 5: the organization throughout the season. But you know, the one
Speaker 5: thing I could the two or three things I could
Speaker 5: point to that was different this year about this year's
Speaker 5: team was one our character, our mental toughness and poise.
Speaker 5: I think those are the three things that that jump
Speaker 5: out at me when I look back at this team that,
Speaker 5: you know what some of the things that they had
Speaker 5: that we needed to do to be able to accomplish
Speaker 5: what we accomplished.
Speaker 2: Well, I asked the coaches all the time when that
Speaker 2: come on, and I think you'd be a perfect gut
Speaker 2: to ask. So you just mentioned three things that are
Speaker 2: important at least this year. And now you have some
Speaker 2: athletes and you're very good at what you do. What's
Speaker 2: what's the driving force? Very good coach or very good players? Well,
Speaker 2: because you know, sometimes you can't have both, right, you know.
Speaker 5: You know, in in pro sports, I would say it
Speaker 5: always starts at the top. I think this. You can
Speaker 5: say this about any organization. It starts at the top.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: It's arts with ownership. And ro Ron Shirtz is the
Speaker 5: owner here of the Arizona Rallers and he me and
Speaker 5: him have developed a partnership and it was you know,
Speaker 5: he has really put a lot of trust to me
Speaker 5: and just kind of given me the keys to run
Speaker 5: the business side and the football side, and and if
Speaker 5: I need him, he's there for me. If not, he
Speaker 5: lets me run with it. But you know, he you know,
Speaker 5: I think I've learned a lot of things from him,
Speaker 5: you know, and how he does business, and it's helped
Speaker 5: me in my business world. But you know, I think
Speaker 5: now from there, it starts with your head coach, and
Speaker 5: then it goes to quarterback. And you know, I've never
Speaker 5: seen teams win championships that didn't have all three. I mean,
Speaker 5: you've got to have those things in line, right, and
Speaker 5: and so you know, if they did, they caught lightning
Speaker 5: in the bottle. You know, I mean, it can't happen.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying it can't happen. But if you're built
Speaker 5: for the long haul, I think you've got to have
Speaker 5: all three of those in line. And you know, and
Speaker 5: then and then you know, you got to have some
Speaker 5: pieces down the middle on defensive side. But listen, you
Speaker 5: can't win championships without players. You got to play. But
Speaker 5: I think a coach is so important for structure organization,
Speaker 5: holding people accountable. Uh, given the vision of the whole organization,
Speaker 5: and and and uh and and you know, I think
Speaker 5: you got to have good play callers. I think you've
Speaker 5: got to have people in place that understand play calling
Speaker 5: and how to use the weapons. You know that you
Speaker 5: have to the strength. You know, if you look, I
Speaker 5: mean for me, you know, I I adapt to my players.
Speaker 5: I adapt to the strengths that they got. I don't
Speaker 5: try to come in with the system and say, Okay,
Speaker 5: you're gonna run the system no matter what, and we'll
Speaker 5: plug you in and play. I'm not big on that.
Speaker 5: I you know, I look at what I got in
Speaker 5: the room. Let me see what kind of end I
Speaker 5: got dealt here, and then we're gonna change. We're gonna
Speaker 5: the offense will evolve as the season goes, based on
Speaker 5: the strength of the skill sets of the players.
Speaker 3: Arizona when they had a little take coming back, but
Speaker 3: that's a whole nother story. I'm not bitter about that though,
Speaker 3: givin at all. We're talking to Kevin.
Speaker 5: I'm always wanted I've always wanted to coach him.
Speaker 4: By the way, have you.
Speaker 2: Tried, well that say, have you tried to get him?
Speaker 5: You know what? Uh? We did look into him, uh
Speaker 5: a year and a half, and I want to say
Speaker 5: he was he was on someone's roster when I looked
Speaker 5: in to see where he was at. And then and
Speaker 5: then to be fright with you, we've you know, we
Speaker 5: really wasn't looking to make a move until this past
Speaker 5: year and then Dalton came available and we decided to
Speaker 5: go with him.
Speaker 4: Wow. Interesting all right?
Speaker 3: So, uh, Kit, we're talking to Kevin guy, head coach
Speaker 3: of theirson, the Rattlers, but also we want you to
Speaker 3: put on your owner's hat for the Sugar Skulls had
Speaker 3: a really tough year.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: I think, well, you tell me what you chalk that
Speaker 3: up to, because you know, you guys have been a
Speaker 3: great organization, done well, You've been a winning organization, but
Speaker 3: it was it was a struggle this year.
Speaker 4: What what how do you how do you analyze that?
Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you this. I I'm gonna I got
Speaker 5: to take some ownership is in and in the small
Speaker 5: part that I play in in the Tuson Sugars Coast
Speaker 5: because when we hired our when we hired our coach,
Speaker 5: we let them run it because I don't want any
Speaker 5: conflict of interest between the Ratlers and Tucson and the league.
Speaker 5: And we've always let the head coach kind of run
Speaker 5: the football side of it. But you know, in the
Speaker 5: small part, and what I enjoy is I enjoy coming
Speaker 5: to I enjoy the relationships in Tucson. I enjoy doing
Speaker 5: business with people in Tucson, and and and and uh
Speaker 5: and I really enjoy a lot of the people that
Speaker 5: I've got to know down there. What I wasn't ready
Speaker 5: for this year. And I'll you know, I'll take my
Speaker 5: my part of the blame of it. But uh, we
Speaker 5: moved the Rattlers from you know, our practice Cilly was
Speaker 5: in Masa. We've been playing downtown for thirty years in Phoenix.
Speaker 5: We moved everything out to Glendale, and we made that decision,
Speaker 5: you know, in late in the fall. It kind of
Speaker 5: carried over into early January, February and then and then
Speaker 5: we had to make the move, like literally move furniture,
Speaker 5: move facilities, everything during one of our bye weeks at
Speaker 5: the beginning of the season. And I underestimated how big
Speaker 5: of a move that was. Okay, I underestimated how big
Speaker 5: of a move that was. I really occupied a lot
Speaker 5: of my time and because not only was it about
Speaker 5: the move, I had to negotiate the contracts for us
Speaker 5: to move into into Glendale. And when you go from
Speaker 5: being number four in the building in downtown Phoenix where
Speaker 5: the Suns come first, to Mercury a second, any big
Speaker 5: time concert that comes in as third. You know, the
Speaker 5: Rattlers were always fourth in the building, you know where
Speaker 5: we moved out to Glendale and we're the number one
Speaker 5: tenant out here. You know, it was it was the
Speaker 5: right move for the Arizona Ratlers, but it did take
Speaker 5: some time away from from when I come down and
Speaker 5: do business. Now we we we really felt like we
Speaker 5: hired a really good coach and Billy back if you
Speaker 5: go look, Billy has had the best winning percentage of
Speaker 5: any coach in the league over the last two or
Speaker 5: three years. And and you know, and I was second
Speaker 5: in that space. You know, I was second in that space.
Speaker 5: He was first, and and uh, you know, there was
Speaker 5: some things that went down. Uh you know, at the
Speaker 5: end of season year before, everybody thinks like we keep
Speaker 5: letting go of the coaches, that's not the case. You know. Uh,
Speaker 5: hurt Us Chain came in. He had some personal issues
Speaker 5: going on in his life and he wasn't coming back, okay,
Speaker 5: So uh so we were kind of forced to you know,
Speaker 5: we had heard us sign to a three year contract.
Speaker 5: You know. Uh, hurt Us reached out to us after
Speaker 5: the fact. Hurt Us reached out to us after the
Speaker 5: fact and had gotten some of the stuff worked out. Uh,
Speaker 5: he was you know, he wanted to get back into coaching,
Speaker 5: but we weren't, you know, And I told Kathy, I said,
Speaker 5: you can't be held hostage by this stuff. The business
Speaker 5: has got to keep going, you know. Uh, she made
Speaker 5: a decision to go get Bill, and uh, it is
Speaker 5: you know, listen, it's not always who you want, either
Speaker 5: is who's available. And we were lucky that Billy was available.
Speaker 5: And you know, I just don't think when you look
Speaker 5: at I just talked about what to go about having
Speaker 5: an ownership, head coach, quarterback all that's kind of line.
Speaker 5: You know. I think Billy did a great job of
Speaker 5: getting the first I thought the quarterback that he started
Speaker 5: the season was was the best rookie quarterback in the
Speaker 5: whole league. You know, For whatever reasons there was, it
Speaker 5: just didn't work out between those two. There was some
Speaker 5: some some form of conflict there and I'll leave it
Speaker 5: as that. But you know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 5: you know, Billy made the best decision he thought was
Speaker 5: for the organization. You know, Tucson Sugars Culls. The record
Speaker 5: doesn't look good, but listen, the team was very competitive.
Speaker 5: They lost ten games by less than a touchdown. Okay,
Speaker 5: ten ten games by less than a touchdown. So you know,
Speaker 5: I think that, you know, from an ownership standpoint, Billy
Speaker 5: had everything that any coach that was there before. He
Speaker 5: had the same things in place, if up better, you know,
Speaker 5: because you know, what we do as ownership, and this
Speaker 5: is how I look at it is, you know, hey,
Speaker 5: you got to go out and get a head coach
Speaker 5: that knows the game. Then from an ownership standpoint, you
Speaker 5: you know, you want a head coach that can recruit.
Speaker 5: And then from you know, from a from an ownership standpoint,
Speaker 5: you want to make sure that they got facilities, which
Speaker 5: Keno I'm gonna tell you right now, Keno's practice facilities
Speaker 5: are as good as anywhere in the league. Okay, they
Speaker 5: rank up there with anybody in the lake. Then it
Speaker 5: comes down the player housing. You know, uh, you know,
Speaker 5: our player housing is very good. I would say it's
Speaker 5: in the top three or four in the league. Okay.
Speaker 5: And then and then you know, and then it's about
Speaker 5: setting up there Uh, you know, it's part of their contracts.
Speaker 5: They get housing and food, and we set up their
Speaker 5: mill deals and the bill deals was the best that
Speaker 5: we've that we've done since we've been in Tucson. So
Speaker 5: all that stuff was in place for the players, and
Speaker 5: then then it's on on the coach and the players
Speaker 5: to go get it done, you know. And and and uh, certainly,
Speaker 5: you know, as as a leader of the organization, you know,
Speaker 5: Kathy's you know, I certainly helped get Tucson set up originally,
Speaker 5: but the plan all along was for Kathy to take
Speaker 5: it and be the face of it. And and and certainly, uh,
Speaker 5: you know, the things were in place for them to
Speaker 5: be saying. But sometimes, you know, sometimes I don't like
Speaker 5: I'm not a big changing I don't like change, you know.
Speaker 5: But but for every reason, you know, for every time
Speaker 5: that there was a the only coach that we really
Speaker 5: moved on from was, you know, it was Dixie. And
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you something, Dixie. Dixie had a conversation
Speaker 5: with me this offseason and and I bumped into him
Speaker 5: and he said, he came up to me and he said, Kevin,
Speaker 5: I want you to know I love you, and Kathy.
Speaker 5: And this is what he said to me. He said,
Speaker 5: I want you to know I love you, and Kethy,
Speaker 5: he goes, I didn't get the job done, okay, And
Speaker 5: he said, the best thing that ever happened to me
Speaker 5: was me getting fired. I had to go look in
Speaker 5: the mirror. I had to go address some things that
Speaker 5: from his personal life. He wanted to get in better
Speaker 5: health and put him in a better mindset. And then
Speaker 5: you know, he he became a student of the game,
Speaker 5: and he and and it's made him a lot better coaching.
Speaker 5: And quite frankly, you know, he's been the offensive coordinator
Speaker 5: at Bayry last two years they've had you know, they
Speaker 5: won the championship the first year. This year they were
Speaker 5: the number one seed in the playoffs. And and he, uh,
Speaker 5: I just helped him make a phone call. You know,
Speaker 5: I won't I won't, you know, say where, but he's
Speaker 5: up for a head coach a job. And I certainly
Speaker 5: made that, made that phone call to that ownership, and
Speaker 5: had had a conversation with him about Dixie because I
Speaker 5: got a I got a lot of respect for Dixie
Speaker 5: and and and Dixie has been told he you know
Speaker 5: that you know, uh, when the job opened last year.
Speaker 5: He was the first phone call I made, and and
Speaker 5: and and uh, you know, and me and Dixie, we
Speaker 5: both got a respect for each other. And I think
Speaker 5: he's one of the best coaches in the you know,
Speaker 5: in the league. I think Billy's Billy Back's one of
Speaker 5: the best coaches in the league. For whatever reason, it
Speaker 5: just didn't get put together this year. So uh, you know, listen,
Speaker 5: nobody's trying to pass the buck. Uh, we got to
Speaker 5: be better and uh, but you know, some of the positives.
Speaker 5: We sold more season tickets than we ever sold last year. Okay,
Speaker 5: and and and you know that's one of the positives.
Speaker 5: But you know, the other thing is where we got
Speaker 5: to do a better job is we've got to do
Speaker 5: a better job selling groups and getting more people in
Speaker 5: the building. And that's something that we're putting a plan
Speaker 5: together to see, uh, you know, to work that part
Speaker 5: of it out. The other side of that is, you know,
Speaker 5: we've been working to get the uh, you know, the
Speaker 5: gaming license, and we've been working very hard, Kathy and
Speaker 5: I and we spent a lot of money on attorneys
Speaker 5: and and fighting with the state over that. And we
Speaker 5: really want this for Tucson. We're really you know, it
Speaker 5: was it will certainly stabilize a lot of things in
Speaker 5: Tucson if if if we could get that and you know,
Speaker 5: but for whatever reasons, you know, it seems like you know, uh,
Speaker 5: you know, you know, whoever's that you're doing business with
Speaker 5: up in Phoenix is always trying to screw Tuson and
Speaker 5: it really it really gets me upset and gets me going,
Speaker 5: right and and and listen, We're we're fighting this thing
Speaker 5: tooth and nail. Ali Farhang has been involved. You know,
Speaker 5: we've we've kept him abreast but with everything that we're doing,
Speaker 5: but you know, we're trying to get that game and
Speaker 5: license and you know, uh four two son and and
Speaker 5: uh in some way, somehow we're going to make that
Speaker 5: thing work.
Speaker 4: Okay, So that was good.
Speaker 3: Leading to my last question then, because I think your
Speaker 3: five your initial five year contract was up after this year, right,
Speaker 3: it sounds like you're staying.
Speaker 5: Well, well, no, you know, I have no plans to
Speaker 5: move it.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: It's it's America, right, I mean, listen, I've probably had
Speaker 5: ten people call me and and and and asked me
Speaker 5: about buying okay, and that that's just business in America, right,
Speaker 5: so you know, everything for sale, you know, and and
Speaker 5: so you know, it just really comes down to the
Speaker 5: right conversations. But you know, I've had people, I mean,
Speaker 5: I've had people in the last few weeks that's reached out,
Speaker 5: and it really comes down to you know, hey, you
Speaker 5: know I always ask Kathy, Hey, you want to do this, kin.
Speaker 5: We committed to five years. We committed to five years
Speaker 5: when we came to Tucson. We've done six years, okay,
Speaker 5: And you know, every year I go to Kathy and
Speaker 5: I told I told everyone I was not gonna have
Speaker 5: any conversation. I even told Kathy I don't want to
Speaker 5: have any conversations about Tucson to I get through with
Speaker 5: my season so I can turn around and focus on,
Speaker 5: you know what I need to focus on. And you know,
Speaker 5: we love Tucson. I told you if I I plan
Speaker 5: on retiring in Tucson, but I plan on having a
Speaker 5: house up in those mountains somewhere because I really I
Speaker 5: really enjoy Tucson and I love the relationships down there.
Speaker 5: So you know, will I will, Will I own and
Speaker 5: run the Tucson Cigar Skulds forever. Nothing's forever, you know,
Speaker 5: And you know, but but at some point. You know,
Speaker 5: we want the team in Tucson, and we always wanted
Speaker 5: to stay in Tucson. And that's why we've been working
Speaker 5: on the on the game of license very hard over
Speaker 5: the last three years. And you know, it seems like
Speaker 5: we've been dealing with some corrupt stuff, but you know,
Speaker 5: we're letting our attorneys handle it, and we're going to
Speaker 5: address it even if we got to address it all
Speaker 5: the way to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2: All Right, fair enough, all right, Kevin guy, We appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Appreciated role Bama.
Speaker 1: Roal tie ro time.
Speaker 5: Maybe it's all about that time. That's the other thing too.
Speaker 5: You know, we have a son that's being recruited in
Speaker 5: college football and and you know he's already got three offers,
Speaker 5: and so you know, that's another thing in our future
Speaker 5: that we gotta.
Speaker 4: We gotta evaluate.
Speaker 5: You know, our daughter just graduated from the u of A,
Speaker 5: and she's getting ready to go to law school. But
Speaker 5: you know, our son's getting ready to graduate this year
Speaker 5: from high school and he's he's gonna be playing college
Speaker 5: football somewhere. So you know, we got to take that
Speaker 5: into account of what's our life look like over the
Speaker 5: next three or four years and there's just a lot
Speaker 5: of decisions that we we got to make, you know,
Speaker 5: and uh, you know certainly, uh but but I will
Speaker 5: tell you this, you know, we we you know, whatever
Speaker 5: happens with us, we plan on having the Tucson Sugar
Speaker 5: Skulls in Tucson.
Speaker 3: All right, man, thanks man, that's be minding here, Kevin,
Speaker 3: thanks so much. Congratulations again.
Speaker 5: All right, guys, we appreciate it, Thank you very much.
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Speaker 1: Steve Rapera and Jacin Salaz. They have their eye on
Speaker 1: the ball on Tucson Sports stag Chat Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Okay, welcome back to arian about you know, Fox Sports
Speaker 2: fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, You're Jay. You got Henry with us.
Speaker 2: We've got a short time window here for seven and
Speaker 2: a half minutes for any calls pot two zero four
Speaker 2: one six seventy four forty. So so I'm not sure
Speaker 2: he answered my question. Jay, you know him Patty Well,
Speaker 2: I would venture to guess that he's savoring this victory
Speaker 2: just as much as or if not more quite a
Speaker 2: bit because it's been a while.
Speaker 3: Well again because he's you know, they came so close.
Speaker 3: I you know, twenty nineteen was that was the year
Speaker 3: that that was my first year with the with the
Speaker 3: Sugar Skulls. So they were undefeated and they were so
Speaker 3: good that year, and you know I went up to
Speaker 3: that game. It was play you know the at that
Speaker 3: at that time, the top seed in the game each
Speaker 3: game hosts. So they hosted the game at a full
Speaker 3: house at at at the Arena up in Phoenix and
Speaker 3: got beat and got beat and uh, I know that
Speaker 3: was that was a tough one to take because that
Speaker 3: team was so good.
Speaker 2: What let me ask you again, I want you to
Speaker 2: be honest and critical if you have to be. What
Speaker 2: makes him successful?
Speaker 3: I think I think he did say a little bit
Speaker 3: about that. It's the organization that he puts together, because
Speaker 3: he's right in this in this league, look in the NFL,
Speaker 3: you get you go at great players and you can run.
Speaker 3: You can be a bad organization, but have great players
Speaker 3: and you can win championships because there's so much more
Speaker 3: to the organization. As you mentioned, talks about your facility.
Speaker 3: You know, are you an organization has a great facility?
Speaker 3: You have all the other things that draw players here.
Speaker 3: You know, at players and coaches. Right do you have
Speaker 3: Are you in a good place? You have you know,
Speaker 3: a good as you said, good housing for the players,
Speaker 3: you have good meal plans for those things matter a
Speaker 3: lot in this league because you know, these guys should
Speaker 3: make a lot of money. Okay, all those other things
Speaker 3: have to be in place to get the good players
Speaker 3: and the good coaches.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you, I'm assuming in your capacity
Speaker 2: for a few years you were with them, did you
Speaker 2: travel too many other places? No?
Speaker 3: No, as A as A as A as A front
Speaker 3: office person, No I went. I went to one road game,
Speaker 3: so I went to the very first one. The very
Speaker 3: first game was in San Diego. I went to a
Speaker 3: couple of Rattlers games because they drive up the street.
Speaker 2: So the reason I was going to go there was because, Okay,
Speaker 2: so facilities accommodations, like you're talking about, does Arizona really
Speaker 2: fit in that where it's always I'm so, yeah, Tuson
Speaker 2: really fit in that upper echelon group because you know
Speaker 2: you're dating, you date a nice looking woman. You're thinking
Speaker 2: the British girl in the world. Oh, I just missed
Speaker 2: that one because that one's even pretty. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're always gonna say you're you got a good
Speaker 3: no I had. I had players tell me because I
Speaker 3: would ask them, you know, why did you come here?
Speaker 3: And they said, oh, because of Kevin Guy.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so I would say that, okay, But so
Speaker 2: it's not about facilities, no, no, no, but but no.
Speaker 3: But in the in the sense that they're because of
Speaker 3: Kevin Guy, because I know he runs a great organization.
Speaker 3: We're going to be treated well, we're gonna get paid
Speaker 3: on time, or you know, we're gonna all these things
Speaker 3: that he puts in place.
Speaker 2: That's why.
Speaker 3: You know, again it's the organization that he runs. And
Speaker 3: I think you know, certainly the Rattlers have been that
Speaker 3: kind of an organization. Tucson's been that kind of an
Speaker 3: or because I you know, these are two sugar skulls
Speaker 3: that I asked that why did you come here? And say,
Speaker 3: because I know Kevin guy runs a great organization. And
Speaker 3: so that's why I'm here because I know that I'm
Speaker 3: going to have a decent apartment to live in. I
Speaker 3: know I'm gonna get fed well, I know I'm going
Speaker 3: to get taken care of, you know, trainers and whatnot.
Speaker 3: So in this in this sport, in the indoor football league,
Speaker 3: that's the most important thing because that gets you players.
Speaker 3: Then the talent comes with that.
Speaker 2: So the other places don't do this, don't Steve like,
Speaker 2: for instance, I can tell you how in the hell
Speaker 2: do they compete?
Speaker 4: I don't know. Some don't. They're not very good.
Speaker 3: Look, look, you know a couple of players that I said, well,
Speaker 3: how bad it is the other places. You wouldn't believe
Speaker 3: some of the places they get us to live. He said,
Speaker 3: we would get you know where one of the things
Speaker 3: that that the Sugar Skulls do and probably the Rattlers
Speaker 3: is they arranged for local restaurants to be sponsors and
Speaker 3: provide meals for the players. And they get they get meals,
Speaker 3: they get Brother John's, and they get Hooters, and they
Speaker 3: get you know, Mexican restaurants, you know El Charm, all
Speaker 3: these great places to eat in Tucson, and those are
Speaker 3: the meals that they get, right, Olive Garden, I mean
Speaker 3: all that stuff, Mama Mama Luisa's.
Speaker 4: Those were those were food sponsors, meal sponsors.
Speaker 3: When I was working there, I heard that there were
Speaker 3: some organizations that they give you a twenty dollars Roger
Speaker 3: per day. Well, these guys have to eat three times, right,
Speaker 3: what's twenty dollars gonna get you? And this is their job, right,
Speaker 3: And this is their job, right. They can't have another Well,
Speaker 3: they do have other jobs, yeah, some of them do,
Speaker 3: but still off season or during the season, during the season. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the guy the guys, you know, that's why, for instance,
Speaker 3: they practice early in the morning so that they if
Speaker 3: they need to go work a job, they can go
Speaker 3: work a job.
Speaker 4: You remember Cam uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah from Psidio, right, yeah, yeah, no, he was at
Speaker 2: he was at Siana Okayan.
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, he was a defensive back. I
Speaker 3: can't remember his da or they can't remember his name,
Speaker 3: but you know he he was a waiter, you know,
Speaker 3: in the in the evenings.
Speaker 2: Uh. You know.
Speaker 3: So they they set practices so that they have the
Speaker 3: rest of the day to go make a living because
Speaker 3: they don't make a lot of money.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I in fact kind of kind of
Speaker 2: well guess what, they don't, but who has them here?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're chasing the dream and that they choose.
Speaker 3: They choose to chase the dream. But they have to
Speaker 3: they have to sustain as well. And and you know
Speaker 3: some of these players, you know, it's tough for them.
Speaker 3: So those things become essentially really important and and those
Speaker 3: and and so players gravitate to the organizations that provide that.
Speaker 3: He was so that's why organization is so important.
Speaker 2: He was talking about stuff that you know, I'm not
Speaker 2: another athlete at that level. I would have never been,
Speaker 2: never will be. But these people who get involved or
Speaker 2: have conflicts with the coach at this level, Okay, level,
Speaker 2: when this is it. If you don't make it here,
Speaker 2: you ain't gonna make it anyway. You can't get along
Speaker 2: right right right doesn't doesn't make sense to me, Steep
Speaker 2: and there because because you're playing a sport that people wish,
Speaker 2: but you could also be tired of it. But you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, here's an opportunity and you piss
Speaker 2: it away.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I hear you. I don't understand, even at.
Speaker 2: Whatever payment you're gonna get. Now what, right, go find
Speaker 2: a job.
Speaker 3: If you're here, allegedly, if you're playing in the indoor
Speaker 3: Football league, it's because you really love the game, you
Speaker 3: really want to try and make this work. And then
Speaker 3: to get in there and be a malcontent makes no
Speaker 3: sense whatsoever. Why are you doing Wait a minute, they
Speaker 3: don't need you, you need them. They can go get
Speaker 3: another guy just like you. There's a lot there's a
Speaker 3: lot of guys who can play at this level who aren't.
Speaker 3: So there's guys out there, So you know, I don't
Speaker 3: I don't know why.
Speaker 4: They do that.
Speaker 2: Cam Gannis, thank you, we sent that off. No, I
Speaker 2: think you went to see Enega. Okay, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 2: I will correct us if we're wrong. Yeah, okay, good.
Speaker 2: First hour, A lot of stuff on sure, so we
Speaker 2: have breaking news, right and then we have.
Speaker 3: Ken hackemy can speak of me athletic director at People
Speaker 3: will be joining us to talk about the start of
Speaker 3: their academic year.
Speaker 2: And then we get some calls at the end of that.
Speaker 4: Sounds great, We're right back