Speaker 1: LGBTQIA people and people who have been disadvantaged already are struggling.
Speaker 1: They already have their own things to deal with. So
Speaker 1: you add a disaster on top of that, it's it's
Speaker 1: just compounding on itself. And I think that is maybe
Speaker 1: the why of why we're having these discussions, because it
Speaker 1: isn't being talked about, it isn't being socialized. We're not
Speaker 1: paying attention to this community.
Speaker 2: Now. There are a couple of things that are intersecting
Speaker 2: in my mind here. One of them is the culture
Speaker 2: of emergency management as an organization, as an industry in
Speaker 2: the United States specifically, not abroad. This has and my
Speaker 2: cat sometimes does this. She gets really loud suddenly, so
Speaker 2: you'll have to just allow for the little nowing in
Speaker 2: the background. The you know, the shift that we're seeing
Speaker 2: right now is a shift in emergency management from utilitarian
Speaker 2: principles where everything is designed for the greatest good, for
Speaker 2: the great amount of people, to disaster equity. But we
Speaker 2: have to do more right and so this topic is intersecting,
Speaker 2: I think with a number of other topics where we
Speaker 2: have to look at policies and understand to what extent
Speaker 2: they have disadvantaged communities that had less assets, communities that
Speaker 2: had pre existing vulnerabilities in accessing disaster related recovery supports.
Speaker 3: Oh, they're going to give you disaster equity. They got
Speaker 3: that part right. My god, that's better than any snl
Speaker 3: skit I've seen in years. Genuinely, that's the best snl
Speaker 3: skit I have seen in maybe a decade. And it's
Speaker 3: not an SNL skit. That is a FEMA disaster preparedness
Speaker 3: zoom call where they talk about where they got their
Speaker 3: pronouns on display. Obviously very important that you do that,
Speaker 3: don't want to offend anybody. And then on top of that,
Speaker 3: Ladies interrupted by her cat, which is I don't know, predictable,
Speaker 3: guess you could say. And then they talk about how
Speaker 3: instead of a utilitarian approach where we try and just
Speaker 3: diminish the agony for everybody, we're going to focus on
Speaker 3: disaster equity where we make sure that disenfranchised and minority
Speaker 3: candidates for aid have to receive a priority, you know,
Speaker 3: assessment and attention, as opposed to, Hey, these are all
Speaker 3: human beings that have all paid taxes, well not all
Speaker 3: of them, but they're all Americans. Well, actually probably not
Speaker 3: all Americans. Either, but they're all human beings and we
Speaker 3: probably ought to help them all equally. No, that's not
Speaker 3: what we're doing anymore. My God, We're in so much trouble.
Speaker 3: And the reason I wanted to play that for you obviously,
Speaker 3: North Carolina and many states are dealing with severe flood
Speaker 3: damage from Hurricane Helena or Helene, and the response has
Speaker 3: been politicized already quite significantly, and it has not been
Speaker 3: going well. I'm very concerned about those folks. I'm sure
Speaker 3: a few of my listeners live in those areas. I
Speaker 3: hope you guys are okay. If I can assist in
Speaker 3: any way, please do let me know. But man, A,
Speaker 3: what a dangerous paradigm. And the reason I wanted to
Speaker 3: play that is because I want you guys to understand that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Sure, sometimes there's conspiracy theories and things like that that
Speaker 3: go into mistreatment of the American people or people more broadly. However,
Speaker 3: sometimes the mistreatment that you suffer at the hands of
Speaker 3: the state is a product of a bad idea, and
Speaker 3: in this case, it's a bad idea that I warned
Speaker 3: you guys about about three years ago now, and that
Speaker 3: is ESG and DEI. And if you can't tell how
Speaker 3: that connects. Let me just connect the dot for you
Speaker 3: real quickly. Well, if you're talking about equity, well, diversity,
Speaker 3: equity inclusion. DEI is all under the umbrella of ESG framework,
Speaker 3: which is Environmental, Social and Governance, which was all began
Speaker 3: under the United Nations back in about five oh six.
Speaker 3: That's when it really or to take hold World Economic Forum,
Speaker 3: then pushed it from there from twenty ten to twenty twelve,
Speaker 3: and then it really got its teeth in us in
Speaker 3: under Donald Trump's administration, but really starkly so in the
Speaker 3: Black Lives Matter era, which obviously kind of hit its
Speaker 3: apex in twenty twenty. So the reason I want you
Speaker 3: to pay attention to clips like that is as painful
Speaker 3: as it is to listen to or watch, which it
Speaker 3: was painful for me too, trust me, I didn't enjoy it.
Speaker 3: But what it is is it's the philosophy. It's the
Speaker 3: ideas that I've been warning you about when it comes
Speaker 3: to the DEI framework and how essentially it is race Marxism.
Speaker 3: It's dividing us based off of our immutable characteristics or
Speaker 3: our sexual identities or whatever, and then molding the government
Speaker 3: to address those problems. Well, when you do that, that
Speaker 3: means other people are then left out. And when people
Speaker 3: are left out during a catastrophic hurricane, as what we saw,
Speaker 3: oh just a week or two ago, that means that
Speaker 3: people die. That means that lives are lost because of
Speaker 3: bad government policy, because of bad ideas. And in this case,
Speaker 3: that bad idea is equity, something that the government cannot
Speaker 3: deliver on, and when it attempts to, it means that
Speaker 3: it is going to injure those that are doing better
Speaker 3: than the others. Because that's the only way you can
Speaker 3: actually get equity is that you don't lift everybody up.
Speaker 3: You have to bring some folks down. And that's what
Speaker 3: they're doing, proudly so. And they all sit there with
Speaker 3: their pronouns and their bio and they tell you, you know,
Speaker 3: it's very flowery talk. All of those people, I want
Speaker 3: you to really understand. All of those people think that
Speaker 3: they're good people. In fact, they are totally certain that
Speaker 3: they are a better person than you. As they mold
Speaker 3: a system by which they injure people intentionally to then
Speaker 3: allegedly help some less helped category of people. It's totally irrational,
Speaker 3: it's totally dangerous and it is destroying us. It will
Speaker 3: destroy us. It is destroying us. When you see the
Speaker 3: response that's happening in North Carolina, just know it's not
Speaker 3: just which it could be. Also, I don't know, it's
Speaker 3: not just some massive conspiracy to go after Trump support
Speaker 3: or anything like that. No, it's a little bit darker
Speaker 3: than that. Actually, it's with the best of intentions, intentionally
Speaker 3: damaging people for equity. Fight it, reject it, Tell people
Speaker 3: all about it, let them know that this is what's happening,
Speaker 3: that this is not an accident. This is actually the
Speaker 3: intention of their programs. And you will only get more
Speaker 3: of it unless you say no, and say it now.
Speaker 4: The level of Unamerican activity that you just saw is stunning.
Speaker 5: That is un American.
Speaker 4: They know they're lying.
Speaker 5: Donald Trump knows that's a lie. He will tell you
Speaker 5: that the Secret Service, he thought, did the best job
Speaker 5: they could do. The fact that Jade Vance and Trump's
Speaker 5: family would out and out say what they said takes
Speaker 5: the threat of violence, takes the threat beyond where it
Speaker 5: was even leading up to January the sixth. This is
Speaker 5: an increasingly desperate person, an increasingly desperate family who's preparing
Speaker 5: for civil war.
Speaker 3: So you're probably thinking to yourself, Jesus, what did Donald
Speaker 3: Trump say to get Joe Scarborough so upset?
Speaker 4: I'm glad you asked. Let's listen.
Speaker 5: Over the past eight years, those who want to stop
Speaker 5: us from achieving this future have slandered me, impeached me,
Speaker 5: indicted me, tried to throw me off the ballot, and
Speaker 5: who knows, maybe even tried to kill me.
Speaker 4: There you go, that's it. That's what he said.
Speaker 3: That's what got Joe so upset, And it makes you
Speaker 3: wonder maybe it's because that's the thing that actually happened,
Speaker 3: and that's what Donald Trump is not supposed to be saying.
Speaker 3: I don't know just theorizing over here, but I do
Speaker 3: think it's interesting that that reaction means that Donald Trump
Speaker 3: is preparing for a civil war. Well, if he's actually
Speaker 3: under threat and he believes that he is, well, then
Speaker 3: wouldn't that mean that the war is being brought to him?
Speaker 3: Is he is he the one starting it? Or is
Speaker 3: the guy that's ducking and dodging bullets actually the one
Speaker 3: that's not interested in war?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think it's kind of the opposite. Anyways, got a
Speaker 3: great interview today with Steve friend. He is a former
Speaker 3: FBI agent turned whistleblower and then suspended and now a
Speaker 3: recovering FBI agent, and he is a wealth of knowledge,
Speaker 3: tremendous resource when it comes to so unfortunately all of
Speaker 3: the issues that are at least part and parcel of
Speaker 3: the FBI and some fashion and we cover everything from
Speaker 3: both of the attacks. We talk about the hurricane disaster
Speaker 3: and the response there, the attacks on Trump obviously I meant,
Speaker 3: and also we get into Vegas and we get into
Speaker 3: I don't know a lot Whitmer. We cover everything. This
Speaker 3: is a fascinating interview. Steve's a great guy and a
Speaker 3: great follow I hope you guys enjoy the rest of
Speaker 3: the interview. We were having a bit of connection issues
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Speaker 3: We are joined once again by a friend of the show,
Speaker 3: Steve Friend. Former FBI? Is it former now or is
Speaker 3: it still act of what's suspended? It's recovering FBI agent recovering. Okay,
Speaker 3: fair enough, that's good distinction. The FBI entraps another fake assassin.
Speaker 3: For those in my audience, that will not be a surprise.
Speaker 3: That seems to be standard operating procedure. But I'm curious
Speaker 3: what your thoughts are because as a former or recovering
Speaker 3: FBI agent, why do these things keep happening?
Speaker 6: I think it's a mix of a couple of different factors,
Speaker 6: one being bureaucratic, because the FBI has the quota system
Speaker 6: that it's always trying to reach and then get their
Speaker 6: motuses and for the senior executives, and then also as
Speaker 6: the agency itself, they can go to Congress and say,
Speaker 6: look all the good work we did, wantn't you to
Speaker 6: give us a little bit more money? And there are
Speaker 6: some statistical accomplishments that are achieved with this sort of thing.
Speaker 6: Then there's the mission creep aspect that has come in
Speaker 6: since the FBI got the National Security responsibility post nine
Speaker 6: to eleven. There was supposed to be the century on
Speaker 6: the wall looking inwards, but there really wasn't anything for
Speaker 6: them to do. But they're a self looking ice cream cone.
Speaker 6: So we had the evolution from looking for legitimate, potentially
Speaker 6: bad actors and using probable cause to do that to being, well,
Speaker 6: we need to be doing pre crime and looking at threats,
Speaker 6: and let's go after homegrown violent extremists because they're they're Muslims,
Speaker 6: so they might be And then that evolved to domestic
Speaker 6: violent extremists and those were moms at school board meetings.
Speaker 6: And now it's the AGAVE, the anti government ANTII authority
Speaker 6: isolent extremist, which is someone who, according to the FBI,
Speaker 6: has a perception of government overreach or negligence.
Speaker 7: That's all that's required for them.
Speaker 6: And then you take that all into this vile, vicious
Speaker 6: stew and goibie. It also with the FBI's playbook for
Speaker 6: domestic terrorism or for terrorism written large because this case
Speaker 6: involved international terrorism, and the playbook is pretty simple. They
Speaker 6: identify a vulnerable person someone who's financially indigen or low IQ,
Speaker 6: emotionally disturbed, lonely, something of that effect, and then groom
Speaker 6: them with an informant who was only paid for being productive,
Speaker 6: by the way, and then eventually introduced them to an
Speaker 6: undercover and get that person, that vulnerable person, to do
Speaker 6: something that they're not predisposed to do and don't have
Speaker 6: the means or motive or opportunity to carry out. But
Speaker 6: once they agree, you spring the trap and you charge
Speaker 6: them with providing material support to terrorism. Now this is
Speaker 6: a new wrinkle on it because this guy was identified
Speaker 6: and the FBI alleges was overseas in Pakistan Iran plodding
Speaker 6: an assassination, and the FBI allowed for him to arrive
Speaker 6: at the southern border, actually gave him a parole to
Speaker 6: come in. The FBI Dallas office brought him across, and
Speaker 6: if they had developed a case to make that arrest,
Speaker 6: I could understand it. They slapped the cuffs on him
Speaker 6: as soon as he got off the airplane, Okay, but
Speaker 6: they didn't do that. They allowed them to go to
Speaker 6: New York City an oper several months, which leads me
Speaker 6: to believe reading the charging document, that they didn't have
Speaker 6: enough to do anything, and they wanted him to build
Speaker 6: up enough evidence for them to then down on and
Speaker 6: then get their big stat which is a dismantlement. They
Speaker 6: only had enough to maybe arrest him, maybe get a
Speaker 6: disruption of a terrorist act, which is valuable, but for
Speaker 6: them to say he was creating an entire organization and
Speaker 6: by stopping him and arresting him, we dismantled.
Speaker 7: A terror cell.
Speaker 6: That looks really good, But if you look at the
Speaker 6: plot of what he was planning, it's very clear that
Speaker 6: he had illusions of grandeur, possibly emotionally disturbed, definitely low
Speaker 6: intelligence because his plot, according to the FBI's charging document,
Speaker 6: was to look for assassins by going to nightclubs in
Speaker 6: New York. He was the entire time with undercovers, and
Speaker 6: he wanted to pay dozens of people to orchestrate fake
Speaker 6: protests outside politicians' houses during those times, though when the
Speaker 6: politicians were distracted, some woman unknown would sneak into their
Speaker 6: houses and steal classified sense of information that they just
Speaker 6: had laying around on their desks and on jump drives escape,
Speaker 6: and then he would hire assassins to commit multiple assassinations
Speaker 6: of politicians on a roving basis, all for the low,
Speaker 6: low price of five thousand dollars, which he didn't actually have.
Speaker 6: So that all happens, the FBI essentially does the ATF
Speaker 6: version of vast and furious, where they allowed guns to
Speaker 6: walk across the border knowing they would be used in crimes,
Speaker 6: so that when the police got them, the ATF could
Speaker 6: roll in and say, look, we seize guns. But now
Speaker 6: the FBI instead imported the terrorists who they're going to
Speaker 6: claim that they disrupted and then dismantled, and aren't you
Speaker 6: glad you have the FBI America.
Speaker 7: You're welcome.
Speaker 6: And for never a moment do they consider that he
Speaker 6: might do something like have a brief second of clarity
Speaker 6: and think, you know, this is a logistical lift. This
Speaker 6: is really complicated, This seems hard and expensive. Maybe I'll
Speaker 6: just grab a knife insateb an infidel, if that was
Speaker 6: what he was actually predisposed to do. Because the FBI
Speaker 6: doesn't consider the American people their custom where the people
Speaker 6: they're duty bound to protect against fraud and force, they're
Speaker 6: just opportunities for them to go act.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean they're opportunities to defend the American people.
Speaker 3: If you want to pretend that they're in fact working
Speaker 3: on behalf of the American people. But I mean, this
Speaker 3: guy is a foreigner. He has really no no means
Speaker 3: by which he could carry out these these uh intended
Speaker 3: terrorist activities or assassinations, which, by the way, five thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's not even the cost that John Wick's
Speaker 3: gold coins. I mean, that's that's not getting you.
Speaker 7: Anything, especially not in New York City.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, kidding, that's not even rent. It's obvious that
Speaker 3: it's it's very risky. You you read into this different
Speaker 3: thing than I do. You read into it. Basically, we're
Speaker 3: going to get additional funding. This looks good on the
Speaker 3: books I read into this. Op I read into this.
Speaker 3: We want there's continuous attacks that are being perpetrated against
Speaker 3: Donald Trump. We want the Iranians to be blamed for it,
Speaker 3: despite the fact that it looks more and more probable
Speaker 3: that there could be domestic actors that are responsible for that.
Speaker 3: And this is basically an intentional scapegoat. Tell me why
Speaker 3: I'm wrong.
Speaker 7: I don't think you're wrong.
Speaker 6: The timing of this arrest perhaps might not line up
Speaker 6: perfectly with that hypothesis, but I agree with you because
Speaker 6: he was arrested the day before the Butler Pennsylvania assassination attempt,
Speaker 6: so it was interesting after. But from what we see
Speaker 6: from the FBI now is everything they're doing is messaging.
Speaker 6: It's a giant op all they're talking about now. And
Speaker 6: from my insiders, they tell me that this was planned.
Speaker 6: They actually were so incompetent that they planned to start
Speaker 6: doing what they're doing now in October as October surprises.
Speaker 6: But then someone along the line realized that there was
Speaker 6: early voting in September, so they started earlier, and that
Speaker 6: is we're going to message.
Speaker 7: Russia, Russia, Russia.
Speaker 6: So they'll talk NonStop right now about Russian election interference.
Speaker 6: They had another announcement today about some cyber organization that
Speaker 6: they took domains of from Okay, so they're out of
Speaker 6: business for a couple of hours, no arrests. And they're
Speaker 6: doing the same thing with Iran. They're indicting members of
Speaker 6: the Iranian Guard while they're in Iran, never to be arrested,
Speaker 6: but they get the press release and they get to
Speaker 6: say Iran, so they get to say Russia. They get
Speaker 6: to say Iran, and they look like they're doing the
Speaker 6: job of the American people.
Speaker 7: But they're not.
Speaker 6: They're actually just putting those terms out into the ecosystem
Speaker 6: so that they will be used to message this op
Speaker 6: and they're projecting power that they don't have. They never
Speaker 6: intend to actually go and arrest these guys, even if
Speaker 6: they could.
Speaker 3: All right, so I am reading it right, I'm not
Speaker 3: totally crazy. That is interesting that he was arrested before Butler.
Speaker 3: So I mean, unless you believe that they were actually
Speaker 3: responsible for Butler, in which case they're going to arrest
Speaker 3: that guy say look, we're doing our job and then
Speaker 3: we're going to turn around. And I'm not saying that's
Speaker 3: what happened. I'm just saying that that could be another age.
Speaker 6: Well, if I could just I mean, let's just let's
Speaker 6: just proffer a theory. I mean, I explained that playbook
Speaker 6: to you. Does crooks that description? I think he does.
Speaker 6: I'm not saying that that's what happened, but he was
Speaker 6: emotionally disturbed, lonely online young because increasingly the FBI is
Speaker 6: targeting young men who are actually under eighteen, and they
Speaker 6: will groom them until they turn eighteen and then get
Speaker 6: them like the day after. But the theory that I
Speaker 6: posed here what if this guy grabbed a knife. What
Speaker 6: if crooks just said, you know these breadcrumbs that my
Speaker 6: friends keep telling me, they just seem hard.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna grab dad's rifle and just go take a shot.
Speaker 7: And he went and did it. And then the Deputy
Speaker 7: director of the FBI in front of the Senate Judiciary
Speaker 7: Committee said, look, we're going to investigate all avenues here,
Speaker 7: including potentially domestic terrorism, because we learned our mistakes from
Speaker 7: the twenty seventeen congressional baseball shooting, which side note, the
Speaker 7: FBI investigated and determined that was not an assassination. They
Speaker 7: said that was suicide by cop. And they said, well,
Speaker 7: we're going to pursue all avenues now. We're doing the
Speaker 7: good work. We've reformed it, we've got new training in place.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 6: But what you don't know, and and wouldn't know unless
Speaker 6: you're on the inside, is if it's a domestic terrorist investigation,
Speaker 6: it's classified and they can't tell you. I'm sorry, can't
Speaker 6: comment on an ongoing investigation, Senator, we have to go
Speaker 6: classified setting.
Speaker 7: We can't reveal that to the American people.
Speaker 6: And if they already had a domestic terrorist case open
Speaker 6: because they were grooming this guy if it's very nicely,
Speaker 6: and they just dropped that into the file man.
Speaker 3: It wasn't there a bullet in Steve Steve Scalisee's hip
Speaker 3: from that non assassination attempt or am I misremembering?
Speaker 7: Anyways, he needed the full blood transfusion.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but it was suicide by cop.
Speaker 7: Interesting arrived and asked where are the Republicans? No politicals?
Speaker 3: Yeah in that yeah, yeah, I mean usually it's not
Speaker 3: other people that are hurt during suicide attempts, So I
Speaker 3: don't know. Anyways, we'll move on past that one. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean you connect, you connect the dot on on
Speaker 3: that attack. You do the same thing when you look
Speaker 3: at the Whitmer case where there's a dozen informants or
Speaker 3: assets that are that are working to set up just
Speaker 3: a couple guys.
Speaker 6: They tried to set us up on that one. I
Speaker 6: was on the arrest for that. They tried to set
Speaker 6: up the SWAT team.
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Speaker 4: You were saying that they tried to get you guys
Speaker 4: in the whitmer sting. What happened here?
Speaker 6: I was a swat operator in the FBI Omaha Division,
Speaker 6: and we were called to assist with the FBI Detroit
Speaker 6: office for their big takedown.
Speaker 7: So we drove like ten twelve hours. We were in Kalamazoo.
Speaker 6: And when you're on SWAT, you don't really get right
Speaker 6: into the entire case. They kind of give you like
Speaker 6: a thirty thousand foot view summary and you get an
Speaker 6: operations plan, a briefing the day before, and we were told, looked,
Speaker 6: there's an assassination, a foot plot, a foot here. This
Speaker 6: is a militia who wants to kidnap the governor and
Speaker 6: take her for some sort of show trial and execute her.
Speaker 7: And I did. I mean it was in SWAT for
Speaker 7: five years.
Speaker 6: I mean you're talking about I've done probably I don't know,
Speaker 6: eighty to one hundred operations and I never had a
Speaker 6: warning order or an.
Speaker 7: Operations plan go out like this one did.
Speaker 6: Because normally you get the driver's license photo or the
Speaker 6: jail photo of the bad guy and a summary very brief,
Speaker 6: and then they show you the structure that you're going
Speaker 6: to be taken down. But we arrived there, we got
Speaker 6: the briefing, We had video of these guys training and
Speaker 6: they were squared away. They described them as near peer,
Speaker 6: meaning that they had just as good of equipment and
Speaker 6: training and capability as us, because obviously the FBI trained
Speaker 6: him and equipped them, but we didn't know that at
Speaker 6: the time. And they said that they had encrypto communications
Speaker 6: and if we interacted with one of them, they had
Speaker 6: the ability to send a distress signal out and they
Speaker 6: their buddies would come and engage us in a gunfight.
Speaker 6: So once we secured our location, normally we would be done,
Speaker 6: we would leave, but they said, no, you have to
Speaker 6: stay there like you're in some sort of forward operating
Speaker 6: base in Afghanistan and point outward bound anticipating taking gun fire.
Speaker 6: So leaving there it was you could drop a pin,
Speaker 6: you could hear it. Normally it's a very locker room
Speaker 6: environment in SWAT, guys smoking and joking. It was dead quiet,
Speaker 6: and we were that determined or that convinced that it
Speaker 6: was going to be a serious situation that we were
Speaker 6: going to likely get into a gunfight.
Speaker 7: I made up my stand a practice.
Speaker 6: After I did a briefing, I'd always call my wife
Speaker 6: and to say, hey, this is what I have going on.
Speaker 6: Just briefly, this is my responsibility. I purposely forgot to
Speaker 6: call my wife because I was that convinced that I
Speaker 6: was going to kill a man.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's incredible. Do you think that, I mean, given
Speaker 3: that they knew the true nature of these guys and
Speaker 3: that in large part they were harmless, do you think
Speaker 3: that they were trying to put you on edge that
Speaker 3: you would end up having an itchy trigger figure.
Speaker 7: I think that's possible.
Speaker 6: But I also think that in the FBI specifically, they
Speaker 6: can compartmentalize responsibility so much that it's very likely that
Speaker 6: only a few people really knew how much entrapment was
Speaker 6: going on, and then just through a game of telephone,
Speaker 6: you're like, hey, those guys are there, got a serious case,
Speaker 6: and then it just kind of built.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean, that's that's so dangerous when you
Speaker 3: realize that there was literally, as if, if my memory serves,
Speaker 3: there was a dozen guys that were like basically their assets,
Speaker 3: that were trying to get two or three regular guys.
Speaker 7: Their main informant became the vice president of the militia.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right right, you.
Speaker 7: Don't think he was driving that train towards something.
Speaker 3: No, of course, and these other guys were like clueless.
Speaker 3: If you actually hear their interviews. Many of them just
Speaker 3: generally had no idea what was going on. They were like,
Speaker 3: get in the car, let's go for a ride. Oh,
Speaker 3: I got a job. This is fine.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: They had no idea that there was anything to do
Speaker 3: with whit muror any any of that. So it was
Speaker 3: it was basically whole cloth concocted. But it could have
Speaker 3: ended up with them dead. I mean, especially because you
Speaker 3: guys are going to this thinking that you're you've got,
Speaker 3: you know, armed to the teeth, vicious, you know, militia
Speaker 3: members that are ready to go down in a blaze
Speaker 3: of glory, and none of that's true. It's just it's
Speaker 3: just so dangerous. These these continued, you know, and I'll
Speaker 3: take you at your word or at your opinion that
Speaker 3: perhaps this is largely driven by budgetary concerns and wanting
Speaker 3: to look good so that you get you know, reauthorized
Speaker 3: funding or increases in funding. But this is a very
Speaker 3: dangerous paradigm in that it's very similar to what you've
Speaker 3: seen with I don't know KGB and USSR or or
Speaker 3: the Stazi or like like they are. They are essentially
Speaker 3: turning the FBI into a dangerous agency. Not to say
Speaker 3: that they may. I mean from a libertarian perspective, I
Speaker 3: could argue they've always been agen.
Speaker 6: I think that they are increasingly politicized. I think that
Speaker 6: there are people who are not afraid of the risk
Speaker 6: or wouldn't shed a tear if it went wrong. I
Speaker 6: think it's actually a combination of both. I don't think
Speaker 6: we're in an if or, it's an and also situation,
Speaker 6: and that creates the worst possible outcome, because not only
Speaker 6: are they getting their perceived political outcomes that they want,
Speaker 6: they're actually find antially enriching themselves too.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 3: Was there was there anything else to the Whitmer case?
Speaker 3: I mean, so, did you end up interacting with these
Speaker 3: guys and having anything anything close to a standoff?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 6: And actually, in the location we were at, our subject
Speaker 6: was arrested on a traffic stop before we were able
Speaker 6: to get there, but we still had to go secure
Speaker 6: it and then had a couple other things that happened
Speaker 6: to me there. I mean we pulled an old man
Speaker 6: and two teenagers out and then we posted up. And
Speaker 6: it was in October of twenty twenty, so October surprise, right,
Speaker 6: But it's in Michigan and you're in Florida, just like me.
Speaker 6: I lived in Iowa at the time, but I don't
Speaker 6: do well in the cold. So they asked if one
Speaker 6: of the guys wanted to go inside and look over
Speaker 6: while the evidence team was collecting guns.
Speaker 7: And the FBI you had there have to be.
Speaker 6: A firearms instructure or a SWAT operator has to be
Speaker 6: there when they do it to make sure it's safe.
Speaker 7: So I said, hey, I'm your huckleberry. It's heated in there.
Speaker 6: So I go in and they were boxing up guns
Speaker 6: and they were doing it so slow. It was not
Speaker 6: the a team of evidence technicians that were doing it
Speaker 6: or evidence response team handling it. And after about an hour,
Speaker 6: I think they've boxed up two guns. And I was
Speaker 6: just thinking this guy had a huge collection, and I'm thinking, hey,
Speaker 6: we're gonna be here for days. And then they just
Speaker 6: said on the radio steam you can leave.
Speaker 7: We're done.
Speaker 6: And I asked afterwards why we're not boxing it up,
Speaker 6: and they said, well, we're just going to hand this
Speaker 6: over to the state. They're going to wind up charging
Speaker 6: this case. And I was thinking they were going to
Speaker 6: assassinate the sitting governor and we're just going to let
Speaker 6: the state take that why would you do that? But
Speaker 6: at the time, at least I was thinking, all right,
Speaker 6: there's somebody making that decision, and I'm gonna leave here.
Speaker 7: And then only.
Speaker 6: Because it was such a high profile case, I was
Speaker 6: proud of myself leaving there. I thought we'd done something
Speaker 6: that was really important. And then I tracked on the
Speaker 6: case and was just blown away that we were used
Speaker 6: as pawns.
Speaker 3: Question for you, do you think that they allowed the
Speaker 3: state to prosecute that case because they didn't want the
Speaker 3: connections to the FBI being the focal point.
Speaker 6: I think that's a definite possibility. And then the federal
Speaker 6: prosecutors are also very selective. They want the most salacious
Speaker 6: ones that they can get where they have the most evidence.
Speaker 6: And it also depends on what you're going to charge,
Speaker 6: and then also what kind of defense the defendant can mount,
Speaker 6: I mean, and entrapment defense is very difficult with some
Speaker 6: and easier at other levels. So I think that they
Speaker 6: picked the ones that they are most likely to get the.
Speaker 3: W on Yeah, well, I mean, the reason I ask
Speaker 3: is because it doesn't get much more salacious than that.
Speaker 3: That's the case that the FBI would love to hang
Speaker 3: if especially if it's legitimate.
Speaker 4: You would love to have a billboard that says.
Speaker 3: We saved a governor from these lunatic right wing militia members.
Speaker 3: The fact that they leave it to the state to
Speaker 3: prosecute tells me that they knew that that case was
Speaker 3: not ironclad, because otherwise they would have prosecuted themselves. Anyways,
Speaker 3: let's move on. I wanted to ask you a little
Speaker 3: bit more about Thomas Matthew, Crooks and Routh and the
Speaker 3: insanity that we're dealing with with the basically a former
Speaker 3: and likely future president that seems to be on the
Speaker 3: run from tons of hit squads. We've got reports from
Speaker 3: Matt Gates that says that there's four or five different
Speaker 3: assassination teams hit squads is how he described him, that
Speaker 3: are already in the United States, three of which are
Speaker 3: foreign and two of which are domestic. This is all madness.
Speaker 3: I've never seen anything like this in my life. Obviously,
Speaker 3: we have had assassination attempts against presidents and successful ones
Speaker 3: in you know, distant past, but in recent memory, this
Speaker 3: is about as crazy and as dangerous the time as
Speaker 3: I've ever lived through. So you already talked about briefly
Speaker 3: the Thomas Matthew Crooks and how he has all of
Speaker 3: the hallmarks of kind of this this groomed Patsy Ruth
Speaker 3: or Ruth. On the other the other hand, the Florida attacker,
Speaker 3: he comes across as a true believer, but he's also
Speaker 3: got such a bizarre background where he's getting passports for
Speaker 3: you know, Afghan fighters to go fight in the Foreign
Speaker 3: Legion in Ukraine. I mean, very very cia e cia
Speaker 3: ish sounding stuff, totally bizarre behavior. What's your rita on
Speaker 3: that one?
Speaker 4: Did? What are you thinking?
Speaker 7: So the answer that I go back briefly to Butler.
Speaker 6: Coming away from the Butler assassination attempt, there was all
Speaker 6: these theories out there. You know, it's clearly a government
Speaker 6: opt to assassinate Donald Trump. I could attribute on its
Speaker 6: own in a vacuum Butler to utter government incompetence. It is,
Speaker 6: it checks every single box.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 6: You don't meet with the guys ahead of time because
Speaker 6: you don't want to hang out with the locals, and
Speaker 6: the locals get offended and say, hey, you know what,
Speaker 6: screw it, We're not going to sit on the top
Speaker 6: of the roof. No, no, And then you don't want
Speaker 6: to communicate with them. Because if you get their radio,
Speaker 6: then you have to bring it back to the radio
Speaker 6: to them and you have.
Speaker 7: To monitor it.
Speaker 6: It's a bummer. I have to hold on to it
Speaker 6: and you're gonna have to stay late. It just fit
Speaker 6: the bill as an agency, the Secret Service, who has
Speaker 6: all these failures happening all the time, but they're just
Speaker 6: never tested, right, and then finally when they were tested,
Speaker 6: it was exposed. But then flash forward sixty three days
Speaker 6: and we have another assassination attempt, and this one you
Speaker 6: can't explain away other than a couple of potential routes.
Speaker 6: You have this guy who sits in the bushes for
Speaker 6: twelve hours when he has no reason to know that
Speaker 6: Donald Trump's going to be at that golf course that
Speaker 6: wasn't on his itinerary in any way. So then you
Speaker 6: believe that, well, maybe he knew that that was Trump's
Speaker 6: normal golf course and he just took a shot that.
Speaker 7: He was going to be there on Sunday.
Speaker 6: Maybe was his plan that I'm going to sit in
Speaker 6: the bushes of this golf course every single day until
Speaker 6: I see Donald Trump, and today just happened to be
Speaker 6: day one, or has he been there for many days
Speaker 6: and you.
Speaker 7: Haven't caught him.
Speaker 6: You haven't fortified Donald Trump's home golf course when he's
Speaker 6: been in our Secret Service protection for almost a decade
Speaker 6: and he plays there regularly. You haven't taken advanced measures,
Speaker 6: or there was some sort of thing that going on there, there
Speaker 6: were complicit that that operational security was either a failure
Speaker 6: or on purpose. And then you described him he is
Speaker 6: like a spirit of the age, like the next thing
Speaker 6: that he's really into. He has a really crazy criminal history,
Speaker 6: like ninety five separate charges and rests in the last
Speaker 6: twenty years, including for weapons, and he's never done a
Speaker 6: day in prison. In fact, they immediately give him a
Speaker 6: plea bargain the next day. It seems like someone who's
Speaker 6: got some sort of protection from a powerful entity. And
Speaker 6: when in the close proximity to the Butler Pennsylvania, and
Speaker 6: then these other things that are happening, like that incident
Speaker 6: and I believe it was Arizona where the supporters of
Speaker 6: Trump were saying that they lost their ability to see,
Speaker 6: they were going to the hospital. It is just too
Speaker 6: many things to say, well, no, these are just all coincidental,
Speaker 6: which is why I keep saying, I'm curious if you
Speaker 6: think that this is a good idea or just a
Speaker 6: novel idea. I would like to see Donald Trump pretend
Speaker 6: that he's James Garfield and go to Mayri Lago and say,
Speaker 6: I'm running.
Speaker 7: It off my porch.
Speaker 6: Mar A Lago is White House Part two. I will
Speaker 6: be presidential. I'll do press conferences like I'm the president.
Speaker 6: I will give I'll let press in what that I want.
Speaker 6: I can let guys like you in, anybody in whatever
Speaker 6: he wants to get interviewed, and he can say, look.
Speaker 7: I had a supporter die. I've had other ones get hurt.
Speaker 7: I'm not going to let my supporters get murdered because
Speaker 7: of the failures here. And Plus, I.
Speaker 6: Don't want to redirect resources that are already spread very
Speaker 6: thin from what we understand the Secret Service, away from
Speaker 6: my competitor or from the actual president on paper, the
Speaker 6: human roomba. I let them have those resources. Plus I
Speaker 6: don't trust the Harris Biden Secret Service. That's a day
Speaker 6: one fix from me.
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I think that's a great idea.
Speaker 3: I wish he would do it now, because I'm very
Speaker 3: nervous about the next thirty days and whether or not
Speaker 3: he can actually get to election dates.
Speaker 4: It's nerve wracking.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, based off of what you said, there
Speaker 3: all this confluence of different events, of different failures. It
Speaker 3: seems as if you are thinking that there the government
Speaker 3: could be involved in trying to take out Trump as
Speaker 3: a you know, recovering FBI agent. How does that make
Speaker 3: you feel?
Speaker 6: I have not said that that is crazy, and I'm
Speaker 6: not going to entertain it. I think that there is
Speaker 6: evidence to support that. It makes me feel happy that
Speaker 6: I'm no longer associated with it, you.
Speaker 7: Know, to that extent.
Speaker 6: I'm actually very resentful and angry that the congress members
Speaker 6: who alleged to be there to support us just exploited
Speaker 6: and used us, myself and the other whistleblowers. They basically
Speaker 6: had two things that they could do, and they only
Speaker 6: had to be successful in one of them. I compared
Speaker 6: it the other day to the Mets against the Braves
Speaker 6: to play into the world to the playoffs, Like they
Speaker 6: both had to get one win out of the doubleheader,
Speaker 6: and they both did so. Yet one win out of
Speaker 6: two and your success. They could have taken the information
Speaker 6: and used the power of the purse that we provided
Speaker 6: to them about the horrible goings on within the FBI.
Speaker 6: The weaponization and brought about fundamental change, and then our
Speaker 6: sacrifice would have at least done that, right or they,
Speaker 6: But instead they just used it to do televised hearings
Speaker 6: and do campaigns and fundraise and go on cable news.
Speaker 6: The other one was, all right, we can't bring about
Speaker 6: the change because dagnabit we don't have the president, so sorry,
Speaker 6: at least protect the guys like myself and like the
Speaker 6: others so that we didn't face the consequences that we did.
Speaker 6: And they were all big and very celebratory that Marcus
Speaker 6: Allen got his security clearance reinstated and his back pay,
Speaker 6: which he got four months after reaching the settlement the
Speaker 6: day before he testified. Wouldn't should know it. It was
Speaker 6: twenty seven months, and you've had the control of the
Speaker 6: Congress for almost two years.
Speaker 7: So that's not sufficient.
Speaker 6: I sit here, other guys like Garrett of Boyle still
Speaker 6: indefinitely suspended. I had to resign to try to take
Speaker 6: a job, but I'm still unpaid and I'm unemployed now
Speaker 6: and unemployable, So why would anyone else come out? There's
Speaker 6: no incentive to. You're not gonna get the change you want.
Speaker 6: You're not gonna get any protection. And that's the biggest
Speaker 6: tragedy because there is a treasure trove of information that's
Speaker 6: on the inside, maybe about a potential plot to kill
Speaker 6: a presidential candidate, but they're never going to get.
Speaker 3: It because it's it's a life wrecker, you know. I
Speaker 3: have to believe that if if the if my read
Speaker 3: of these things, because I won't say it's your read,
Speaker 3: but my read of it is that they are in
Speaker 3: fact trying to take out Trump actively. I just think
Speaker 3: that there's there's too many, too many different attacks for
Speaker 3: me to say, oh, yeah, now these are all just
Speaker 3: radicalized lunatics because they watch Rachel Mattow at night, or
Speaker 3: these are all foreign operatives, foreign funded operatives by you know,
Speaker 3: Putin or the Mullahs or whatever whatever the the you know,
Speaker 3: narrative is on it, and I just read into it like, yeah,
Speaker 3: this looks I mean, when you see what the media
Speaker 3: has done, when you see what the political class is done,
Speaker 3: when you see the line of the fis of courts
Speaker 3: to spy on Trump, you know, even before he was
Speaker 3: the president of the United States, the multiple impeachments that
Speaker 3: are based off of largely nonsense or stuff that Joe
Speaker 3: Biden or Barack Obama were guilty of themselves. And then
Speaker 3: you see the multiple assassination attempts. It looks as if
Speaker 3: a natural progression of aggression, if you will, like it
Speaker 3: goes from soft to very very hard. And my distinct
Speaker 3: fear is that in fact, this is not going to stop,
Speaker 3: and that the next thirty days or so that we
Speaker 3: have left before the election are about as perilous as
Speaker 3: it could get. Additionally, even once the election's over than.
Speaker 6: Talking about that, yeah, I mean, see there's a period
Speaker 6: in between there and taking the oath of office, and
Speaker 6: even when he.
Speaker 3: Takes oh yeah, I mean basically for the next four
Speaker 3: point four years, it's going to be pins and needles.
Speaker 4: That's assuming he wins.
Speaker 3: I and I mean, I'm just mortified, honestly, like I
Speaker 3: because and just to you know, my audience knows this.
Speaker 3: You may not, but I never voted for Trump, you know,
Speaker 3: like I'm seriously considering. I'm seriously considering voting for him
Speaker 3: this time. But I didn't vote from en twenty. He
Speaker 3: didn't vote for him in sixteen. But you and I
Speaker 3: both know what happens if he gets taken out. I mean,
Speaker 3: this country is going to be permanently and irrevocably screwed.
Speaker 3: Like we are in serious, serious shit if that happens.
Speaker 4: Do you think do you think that? Am I right?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: Are they going to continue to try? Whoever whoever is
Speaker 3: doing this? Do you think it's going to continue to try?
Speaker 3: And what's your gut tell you?
Speaker 4: I know this is just a guess.
Speaker 6: I yes, I share your fear that this is going
Speaker 6: to continue, and he's going to continue doing the P. T.
Speaker 6: Barnum and having the big rallies and putting himself at risk.
Speaker 6: And that's obviously a calculation from his that he's decided
Speaker 6: that's that's with it to him. I actually I'll disagree
Speaker 6: with you on one thing. I think that there will
Speaker 6: is a greater chance of unrest and breaking a part
Speaker 6: of the country if he wins. Interesting because I think
Speaker 6: that the communists left in this country will lose their
Speaker 6: ever loving mind and do whatever is necessary to prevent that.
Speaker 6: Whereas the theoretical, the right, the libertarian, the conservative, whatever
Speaker 6: you want to call them, who are going to pull
Speaker 6: the lever for Donald Trump. Frankly, they've been weighed, measured
Speaker 6: and found wanting. And it happened in twenty twenty when
Speaker 6: a whole bunch of guys who had tat sleeves and
Speaker 6: had don't tread on Me t shirts masked up to
Speaker 6: walk down one way grocery store aisles to spend their
Speaker 6: government stemmy check which they needed to shut down their
Speaker 6: non essential business that they had to use to feed
Speaker 6: their family.
Speaker 7: And they're going to call that bluff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's it's weird.
Speaker 3: I saw this clip circulating yesterday where this guy was
Speaker 3: talking about how, you know, people always talk about right
Speaker 3: wing violence as if it is if it's even a
Speaker 3: thing this country, and it's like, no, there's actually massive
Speaker 3: left wing violence. There's almost almost zero right wing violence.
Speaker 3: And he was saying, and that's why we'll lose, that's
Speaker 3: what he said. And I'm like, man, you know that's
Speaker 3: a really dark prognosis. But at the same time, you're like,
Speaker 3: it's not totally wrong, Like you can't say that it's
Speaker 3: just obviously wrong.
Speaker 7: Well take it out of the violence.
Speaker 6: There's no mutually assured destruction from the political law fair scene.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 6: You have the Democrats that have used indicted Donald Trump
Speaker 6: nine hundred and ninety nine times, right, and there's not
Speaker 6: been a single attorney general or even local prosecutor that
Speaker 6: has charged a prominent Democrat doesn't have to be Joe
Speaker 6: Biden or Kamala Harris get An. You can't get a
Speaker 6: cabinet member indicted for something just to say, look, this
Speaker 6: stops when you stop, and it's never going to stop.
Speaker 6: Their side won't because they recognize that this is an
Speaker 6: asymmetrical battle.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 6: Their belief, they're fundamental, their religion is that that was
Speaker 6: not his band is required, resistance is futile.
Speaker 7: You will be assimilated.
Speaker 6: They're like the borg and then the conservative, the right,
Speaker 6: the libertarian wing is kind of like, well, we all
Speaker 6: want the same thing, and you might have a different
Speaker 6: yard sign up, but as long as you know your grass,
Speaker 6: we can get along. And that social compact is broken,
Speaker 6: and too few people understand it because they're just still
Speaker 6: too darncomfortable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're right, And I don't really know how
Speaker 3: you one wake up those people to that reality or
Speaker 3: to avoid kind of ramping up of political violence, because
Speaker 3: I very much don't want to see that. I don't
Speaker 3: want to live through that. I want to live in
Speaker 3: a country like that. And I think that's really the
Speaker 3: primary reason that the right is like not violent is
Speaker 3: because they're like, yeah, we don't want to, like we
Speaker 3: understand what that amounts to moving forward, whereas like the
Speaker 3: left wing violent people are like, I hate everything about
Speaker 3: this current paradigm. I don't care if everything burns. I'm
Speaker 3: totally okay, I'm I'm I'm prepared to lose everything, including myself,
Speaker 3: in this fight.
Speaker 4: Like these are radical folks, and then.
Speaker 3: You've got just kind of like let's go along to
Speaker 3: get along conservatives that are like, well.
Speaker 7: It's never going to be even because the communist left,
Speaker 7: that's their religion. They are here for this purpose.
Speaker 6: When they are gone, it aids to black they don't
Speaker 6: see another life after this.
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Speaker 6: So no matter, martyrdom, you'll never ever fight is hard.
Speaker 6: But I and this is again, this is dark. I
Speaker 6: think we're going to get a smack in the face
Speaker 6: regardless of the election outcome. It's here and people just
Speaker 6: haven't realized yet. And I started to see it actually
Speaker 6: probably in the last few weeks. It was doing I
Speaker 6: do our grocery shop and was going through a BJ's
Speaker 6: you know, big box store, and I noticed there were
Speaker 6: about two dozen people applying for jobs and they were
Speaker 6: my age or older. I'm thirty nine, and I just
Speaker 6: had to curious us. You pull it up, like, hey,
Speaker 6: what's what are they hiring from the store? It was
Speaker 6: one part time cashier job, and like, I'm unemployed, I
Speaker 6: am looking for anything I can and I was just
Speaker 6: finally was like, swallow pride, man, what's Walmart got?
Speaker 7: Do you know?
Speaker 6: You need to take a thirty minute online assessment and
Speaker 6: they prefer a bachelor degree to be a part time
Speaker 6: shelf stocker at Walmart. Right now, that just means they
Speaker 6: have applications through the roof of people. People are struggling
Speaker 6: and they're putting on the good face right now and
Speaker 6: dark times are here, and it doesn't help us that
Speaker 6: we don't have leaders who are realistic. The people that
Speaker 6: died in pow camps in Vietnam were the ones that said, like, hey,
Speaker 6: they're coming to get us. They're coming to get us tomorrow.
Speaker 6: You know, the sun will come out tomorrow, guys. The
Speaker 6: ones that were realistic, like, buckle up, we're here for
Speaker 6: the long haul.
Speaker 7: We can get through it if we struggle. We're the
Speaker 7: ones that thrived, and we don't have leaders that do that.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 6: They're all just with slim past the graveyard or they're
Speaker 6: saying pull the lever for me and we're going to
Speaker 6: have nothing but sun China rainbows.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to agree. I'm I'm very nervous about
Speaker 3: the economic outlook, particularly if Trump wins, because then then
Speaker 3: they have a lot of impetus to maybe reverse course
Speaker 3: on the interest rate reductions that the FED policy has
Speaker 3: been doing and basically spiral this economy into oblivion because
Speaker 3: we're sitting on thirty five trillion in debt quadrillions in
Speaker 3: debt globally that are all based in the dollar. Like
Speaker 3: all you have to do is hike the FED funds right,
Speaker 3: Like the reason they're they'll pulling it down. They try
Speaker 3: and tell you that the economy is great.
Speaker 7: Great, but we're going to do panic level drop and.
Speaker 3: Interest rates bingo. You see what I see? So I
Speaker 3: think that there's a distinct possibility whoever wins, but particularly
Speaker 3: if Trump wins, that the economy is fucking toast next year.
Speaker 3: So anyways, I'll move past that. I do want to
Speaker 3: kind of close out with your thoughts on the FEMA
Speaker 3: response to the hurricane Helena or Helene. I don't know
Speaker 3: how you pronounce it. A lot of angry people, man,
Speaker 3: I've I've been covering this for a week now, and
Speaker 3: I can't believe how little help these people appear to
Speaker 3: be getting and how furious the people living there are.
Speaker 3: I don't know if the FBI is ever involved in,
Speaker 3: you know, domestic crises like that, but what just what's
Speaker 3: your thoughts.
Speaker 6: Probably we deployed a swat teams to hurricane areas. It
Speaker 6: was just sort of it was pointless. It's just like, hey,
Speaker 6: it's the government, We're gonna send bodies. So the takeaway
Speaker 6: was like, you want to standing there in swat gear
Speaker 6: and then taking up hotel rooms, I mean for nothing really,
Speaker 6: So the FBI does do that. This is on display
Speaker 6: of how much the government really truly hates the citizens
Speaker 6: and how the social compact is completely broken in And look,
Speaker 6: I don't want the government involved in any hurricane. I'm
Speaker 6: a small I'm a government like minimalist. Like there's an
Speaker 6: anarchist and then there's the guy next to him, and
Speaker 6: I'll stand next to that guy, right, I'm that close.
Speaker 6: So I don't think there should be a femal I
Speaker 6: don't think there should be a federal response. That being said,
Speaker 6: it's cost at this point, too many Americans disagree with me.
Speaker 7: It's a system I have to live in.
Speaker 6: And the fact that you have the federal government spending
Speaker 6: six hundred and forty one million dollars on illegal aliens
Speaker 6: who don't buy into our social compact, and they're gonna
Speaker 6: cut seven hundred and fifty dollars checks and then fight
Speaker 6: people who are on the ground like trying to do
Speaker 6: good citizenship, which being American is an action verb. It's
Speaker 6: not a leisure pursuit. You have to be uncomfortable and
Speaker 6: inconvenienced at times. And people are going there doing the
Speaker 6: right thing, trying to help their fellow man, flying drones
Speaker 6: up in the air to try to identify people, and
Speaker 6: they're saying, no, you can't put drones up there because
Speaker 6: we don't want the footage coming out, or you are
Speaker 6: not a FEMA approved vendor. That's the government not just
Speaker 6: being negligent, that's being actively antagonistic against people to be corrupt.
Speaker 7: Yes, and and everything they do is political.
Speaker 6: I've tried to get wrap my head around it because
Speaker 6: it seems like this should be a good messaging politically
Speaker 6: for Donald Trump, right, because he can say, like, look
Speaker 6: at this catastrophe, they're not taking care of the people
Speaker 6: and whatnot. I don't know what the message is here
Speaker 6: other than we hope enough people die that they don't
Speaker 6: get to the polls.
Speaker 7: Like, is that really what it is?
Speaker 4: Man, I don't know. I can't get a read on it.
Speaker 3: I'm stunned at you know, just for the political motivations,
Speaker 3: you would think that they would want to signal like, hey,
Speaker 3: we got you, you know, But it tells me maybe
Speaker 3: they're not so concerned about the election.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know how to read it other than that,
Speaker 3: or we're just at such a late stage of corruption
Speaker 3: and government largest that this is just how the system
Speaker 3: works and they literally can't fix it. They can't do
Speaker 3: anything about it, like this is just how things go.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: All of these prognoses are dire, and I don't know
Speaker 3: which one's right.
Speaker 7: So the cupboards could be bare.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's completely a plausible explanation here, and it's their
Speaker 6: own doing. Look, they have made it very clear that
Speaker 6: they want to give illegal aliens everything to come here
Speaker 6: in the hope that they can overwhelm the system. And
Speaker 6: this is what happens in late stage republics like Rolling.
Speaker 6: They were pilfering the treasury on their way out because
Speaker 6: they could see the crumbling. And because we're ruled by
Speaker 6: a bunch of octagenarians who were not buying green bananas
Speaker 6: and don't believe in an afterlife, they're happy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well said Yeah, I mean that's that's my concern too.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just stunned at all of this. Honestly,
Speaker 3: you know, just watching watching the first hand. Most of
Speaker 3: this is like not video at this point because they
Speaker 3: don't have internet. But it's like texts from people when
Speaker 3: they have enough cell service to get things out, and
Speaker 3: it's just tragic. It's just absolutely heartbreaking, and it doesn't
Speaker 3: seem it doesn't seem like the media is covering it
Speaker 3: very much. It also it reminds me very much of
Speaker 3: how the media moved on past these multiple attempts on
Speaker 3: Donald Trump's life. It's like anything that's counter to their
Speaker 3: to their you know, end goals, just gets buried and
Speaker 3: it seems as if that works for their audience, but
Speaker 3: it doesn't work for the people that are paying attention,
Speaker 3: and it doesn't work for the people.
Speaker 4: That live there.
Speaker 3: And that that divide in the country of those that
Speaker 3: are sitting in New York City watching CNN, is they
Speaker 3: think that the world's fine.
Speaker 4: You know other thing.
Speaker 6: I mean, you remember when Sandy hit and they thought
Speaker 6: that that that was the.
Speaker 1: End of all.
Speaker 6: I mean, we will never rebuild. New York City's gone
Speaker 6: and lost. Because that was affecting the news people. I
Speaker 6: think that frankly Ron DeSantis's expert handling of the hurricane
Speaker 6: in Florida meant that we can't cover that, We don't
Speaker 6: want to give him the good press. And then Cooper's
Speaker 6: mishandling of it. North Carolina's like, well, we definitely don't
Speaker 6: want to highlight that. So there's that political angle of it.
Speaker 6: But there's just a human toll here. I mean I
Speaker 6: was always told, you know, if it bleeds, it lead,
Speaker 6: that's what the media is going to cover.
Speaker 7: That's gone. It has to further a political narrative here,
Speaker 7: and this thing is going to be like Vegas shooter
Speaker 7: memory hold, which is just a catastrophe.
Speaker 4: I would love to have you back on to talk
Speaker 4: about that. Do you have five minutes to talk about that?
Speaker 7: Sure, let's end it.
Speaker 4: All right, right, let's end on Vegas. What the fuck happens? Steve?
Speaker 7: All right?
Speaker 4: Again?
Speaker 7: Again, I don't have firsthand knowledge here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I did work on the inside and know how
Speaker 6: things typically go. My strong suspicion is that Stephen Paddock
Speaker 6: was some sort of asset for a government agency and
Speaker 6: was doing the gun exchanges, and part of his compensation
Speaker 6: was laundering the money through the casino. That's why he
Speaker 6: was a professional gambler, right yep, and then.
Speaker 3: A professional video poker player. There's no fucking professional gamblers
Speaker 3: that do that.
Speaker 6: And and I think that, I mean, take it even
Speaker 6: to Butler. I think they got God. I think they
Speaker 6: were trying to do an arms deal with some terrorists,
Speaker 6: thinking that like, all right, we're gonna swoop in, and
Speaker 6: then the terrorists just did an attack right there, and
Speaker 6: they're like, holy crap, we gave them the weapons, which.
Speaker 7: Is also a problem because when you do arms deals
Speaker 7: in the government, they're not supposed to be functional weapons,
Speaker 7: so there's a problem with that.
Speaker 6: But I think that they had they had to bury that,
Speaker 6: and there might have been multiple agencies that were not deconflicting,
Speaker 6: like one was working a terrorism angle, one was working
Speaker 6: a gun running angle that was criminal, and then it
Speaker 6: was just like, we need to bury it because that
Speaker 6: whole thing. I mean, they had two ads on the
Speaker 6: on the team that went into the hotel room twice,
Speaker 6: the Vegas ad hoc team that went in there were
Speaker 6: local police. Some of those guys were squat They had
Speaker 6: two negligent discharges in the hotel room. That's how messed
Speaker 6: up it was, and nobody knows that. And then last
Speaker 6: year the FBI said, we were happy to tell you
Speaker 6: what Steven Paddock's motive was, and it was a lot
Speaker 6: that he lost, like ten thousand dollars gambling. So we
Speaker 6: decided to set up a sniper's nest over three days
Speaker 6: and kill sixty people.
Speaker 3: Right, that's that's the that's the narrative they expect us
Speaker 3: to buy. Uh yeah, I don't all right, last question,
Speaker 3: do you think that Thomas Matthew Crooks worked alone?
Speaker 4: That he was?
Speaker 3: I mean, we've already covered enough to kind of assume
Speaker 3: he probably didn't work alone.
Speaker 4: Do you think he was the only shooter on that day?
Speaker 4: Have you have? You? You did?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I think he's the only shooter there that was, well,
Speaker 6: the only shooter that was had ill intent.
Speaker 7: Let's say that the counter snipers were there. But yes,
Speaker 7: I think he's the only one.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's that's good.
Speaker 3: At least we got one one benign kind of story
Speaker 3: that fits.
Speaker 7: Now, no zipline off of the water tower, because that
Speaker 7: zipline would weigh like in the thousands of pounds to
Speaker 7: stress that far true?
Speaker 4: That true? That all right? Good? Well?
Speaker 3: Look, last last question for you, actually, why is it
Speaker 3: that Donald Trump hasn't brought you in for his security detail?
Speaker 4: Why aren't they?
Speaker 3: I mean, there there ought to be there ought to
Speaker 3: be plentiful job opportunities for someone like you, Steve, You're
Speaker 3: an actual honorable person with the capacity to to save lives.
Speaker 3: That seems like you should have a limitless uh, you know,
Speaker 3: opportunities for jobs.
Speaker 7: So what the fuck that's a good question.
Speaker 6: I mean, look, I don't I don't even have any
Speaker 6: aspirations to like live on Mara Logue or anything like that.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'd just be happy to be a resource
Speaker 6: of information for him. Just haven't had anybody reach out
Speaker 6: other than Cash. Mattel is a friend of mine. He's
Speaker 6: been very good. His Foundation for Whistleblower has reached out
Speaker 6: to me and helped support me and my family. So
Speaker 6: you know, I've had conversations with him and then helped
Speaker 6: him on his movie premiere, but not in any official
Speaker 6: capacity anything like that. The only politicians who have ever
Speaker 6: reached out to me were every now and then. I've
Speaker 6: had the last two years of Congress person or their
Speaker 6: staff will reach out, and then there's just it's just
Speaker 6: kind of that is what it is.
Speaker 7: Nothing goes further than that.
Speaker 6: So I endeavor to be as someone who is just
Speaker 6: a wealth of information, be it a resource for people
Speaker 6: who are making decisions, and if they want me to
Speaker 6: perform more than that. Look, I'm sitting here in my
Speaker 6: house every day, and every day it feels like it's
Speaker 6: the same day here, just.
Speaker 7: Time.
Speaker 3: Well, I wish I had Joe Rogan level size audience
Speaker 3: so that this would blast out and have job opportunities
Speaker 3: just banging down your door.
Speaker 4: But you never know.
Speaker 3: Rogan follows me, maybe he watches this, maybe he has
Speaker 3: you on maybe then the then that all happens, So
Speaker 3: we'll see.
Speaker 4: Go ahead and tell my audience where they can follow you.
Speaker 6: Sure, sure, and thanks again for having me so you
Speaker 6: can follow me on X at real Steve friend is
Speaker 6: the handle. I have a podcast I do with another
Speaker 6: Whistlelow called the American Radicals Podcast, which you can find.
Speaker 6: It's on Rumble, but it also does the audio on
Speaker 6: all the different platforms. And then on X every weekday
Speaker 6: I do a show called The Morning Post that it
Speaker 6: is at eight o'clock on every time zone. It just
Speaker 6: gets re reset every hour on the hour.
Speaker 4: Smart interesting.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, thank you for joining me once again, Steve,
Speaker 3: and I hope things work out in the career path.
Speaker 3: But most importantly I hope you stay safe, you stay healthy,
Speaker 3: and I think I think at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: things will work out, but it is.
Speaker 4: It is dark right now, I'm feeling it too dark
Speaker 4: as before the light right, that's right, that's right, all right.
Speaker 3: If you guys could leave a like, if you got
Speaker 3: any comments on this one yacht to this was an
Speaker 3: incredibly fascinating conversation, and subscribe and then share it around,
Speaker 3: get the word out.
Speaker 4: I appreciate you guys. We'll catch you soon. Peace. Welcome
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Speaker 7: Let's got your flock.
Speaker 4: Liberty ain't come but yeah, it's on hall. It's where
Speaker 4: did it come from? And where did it go