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Speaker 2: Craig Happy Sunday. We're winding it down. The scaries are
setting in Mondays right around the corner.
Speaker 1: What's going on, my man? Tell everybody what you what
you've been refreshing yourself with, and what you're wearing since
they can't see you.
Speaker 3: Well, I got my old Miss Rebel shirt on because
the lane train is back. Baby, We're going and I've
got I've got just some water to night. I'm hydrating,
just trying to get ready for the week. It's it's
a Halloween week and you know as a as a
fellow girl dad that we're going to be busy this week.
So we got to make sure that we're ready. We
can't be slacking at all.
Speaker 1: Well, it is fifty six degrees in windy in South Carolina,
a bit chilly, so I whipped up some hot choking.
Speaker 3: Look at you, my mother.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't do I didn't do all that. It was.
It was five minutes to kickoff, and by that I
mean time to get on with you. So I had to.
I had to microwave the milk and toss in the
powder real quick.
Speaker 3: Are you doing nestleie quickpowder? Are we doing Swiss mess?
Or we do? We got this Hirsty syrup.
Speaker 1: Would you used I'll be honest, I don't know because
it's in a miniature jug that I was given as
a gift, and so I'm not sure. I think it's
a homemade, homemade mix of some sort. There were marshmallows
at some point. I've used them all. I'm at the
bottom of the jug, so it still tastes great.
Speaker 3: One went through there and dug out all of the marshmallows.
Speaker 1: No, I've got it. It's up there with the Maxwell
House on the top shelf. You know what I mean.
You gotta put the good stuff also if there at
the top and Maxwell House is good to the last drop.
We are not yet sponsored, but the quest is never ending. Hey,
it was an incredible week in college football. The SEC
looked fan fantastic. What were your overall thoughts Premier game
Texas A and m LSU. We're gonna have our buddy
Lewis Johnson from Last Round College Football at CFB lou
gonna be here in just a little bit to talk
about that game with us and break down what the
temperature check is and baton rouge.
Speaker 2: But just overall really quick and we'll jump to other things.
Speaker 1: What would your takeaway here?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, big thing obviously Texas saying LSU was
a tail of two halves. But you know, like I
take a look Old Miss Alabama, Texas. It wasn't pretty,
but most importantly, they came out on top and they
won Old Miss Care of Businesses in the second half, shut.
Speaker 1: Out after being down at halftime, gave everybody a little
bit of a scare.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and I think it's managing expectations there.
And again total lane bias here. I don't care come
to this sip all that good stuff.
Speaker 1: Can we talk about that for just a second.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 2: Is Oklahoma's defense better than we think, because.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm But look at look at the offenses
that they've held down. They don't, they don't just suck. Okay,
can we stop that narrative that the whole team is
just awful. I don't think the whole team is off
I think they don't have an offensive line and they
don't have playmakers. I don't think Jackson Arnold is awful.
Speaker 3: No, but he was under dress whole time. So your question,
So to answer your question about the Stonor defense, I
just think they're overtaxed. They're a good defense, sure, but
but but it's constantly three and out. Arnold is putting
them in bad situations with turnovers, so like they are
in high pressure situations where you start. I mean, this
is what you saw basically on Saturday afternoon is Old
Miss just kind of wore their ass out in the
second half and just kind of took care of business
and really control control that second half where Arnold. So
here's a stat for you. You want it, you want
a bad ass stat where old this is still going
to be there. Ole Miss had ten sacks on Saturday
against that Sooner's horse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were stacking late into the game.
Speaker 3: I think you and I could go South.
Speaker 1: Well, South Carolina did the same thing. So back to
back weeks where the records were set against the Oklahoma offense,
number of sacks given up. Look, I mean the most
points they've given up the entire season was the South
Carolina last week, which is thirty five, and fourteen of
those were scored by the defense, So really it was
only a twenty one point scored by the offense. Other
than that, you have Texas at thirty four and nobody
else is even close. You got Tennessee at twenty five.
Everybody else is twenty one or less, and then.
Speaker 3: For using the freeze posts to it. The defense is
financy offense screwing it up. That's why, that's what I've heard.
Speaker 1: Right, absolutely, that's you know, I'm just I'm just trying
to advocate a little bit. I think that the narrative,
at least what I'm doing, has just become Oklahoma's trash.
I don't think it's that. I don't think it's I
don't think it's all that. I think that if they
go to the portal this year and they get them
a couple of playmakers and they shore up the offensive line,
They're not in the toilet next year. I'm not talking
about contending for conference title. I'm just saying that they
are going to have a much stronger outfit next year.
I trust ventibles when it comes to the.
Speaker 3: Defense, and real quick, when they were the Big twelve,
weren't they always in the conference championship and then all
of a sudden, now we're in the SEC. That's no
longer the standards of.
Speaker 1: Course, yeah, because nobody. Yes, I think if they were
in the Big twelve now their offensill look a lot better.
Speaker 2: But that's neither here nor there. Don't tell Andrew mcleary.
Speaker 3: All right, So, uh, let's Obama, Bama.
Speaker 2: Absolutely dominant and I expected that.
Speaker 3: You gotta go, you gotta look at you gotta pants out.
What did you think when it was fine? Nothing? Did
you think dominant? That was not what I was thinking.
Speaker 2: No, No, And I don't think that five nothing looks.
Speaker 1: I think that the defense has been the biggest question
mark for me. Jaylen Milroe has been inconsistent. But I
don't doubt Jalen Milroe. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not one of these guys who looks at Alabama's
offense and says, oh, they just don't have the elite
star power that they've had in the past. I've heard
that take. I've heard that, hey, Ryan Williams is it
and everybody else is good but not great. I still
feel like they have some guys who could be total
game breakers. I like both of those running backs. Still,
they have not been as productive as we would like
for them to be this year. But I'm not just
totally throwing the baby out with the bathwater. You're in
a first year in a new offense, under Kaitlyn de Boor.
We have no reason to think he doesn't get the
offense going. And maybe it's not this year that they
become the dominant offense that we would expect them to
eventually be, but the potential is still there. On the
defensive side of the ball, you lose Saban, that's where
it hurts the most. You lose culture, you lose leader,
you lose yes, but you lose the whole defensive staff.
Speaker 2: And that's what his name is built on.
Speaker 1: Before there was Jalen Hurts and and Tua and Matt
Jones and Bryce Young, there was run the ball and
play defense at Alabama and that's where that's where, that's
the bread of butter, that's where they made their money.
So this year it's been a little questionable. And so yes,
when it's five to nothing, you look at it and
you asked the question, is it dominant or is it not?
I'm not I'm not looking at the five. I'm looking
at the zero.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well I looked at the five five. The five
was not impressive, and I was like, oh, that looks ugly.
But here here's the deal. At the end of the day,
thirty four, nothing can we stop ranking Massoo. Sorry Brett,
I love your bourbon, love your pizza, love what love
what drink's doing down there. Hopefully Gainsville doesn't take them,
but Missoo is not a serious person. They're done. But
Alabama does exactly what we have talked about for the
last three weeks. They came in, they got their minds right.
Apparently they're tucking their shirts now Haalin's getting angry at
players on the sidelines. Whatever that is. But here's the deal.
It all comes down to two weeks from now against LSU.
So you know what, hats off to the Tide. They
did it last one. I want to get to Texas.
Oh my gosh. They only won by three. But guess what,
this was a twenty four This was a twenty seven
to seventeen game up until forty five seconds left in
the game. So stop. Vandy is not you know last
year's Vandy. They are scary. They do some things. Georgia.
You know, Texas is coming off an emotional loss to Georgia.
They were knocked off for their high horse when yours.
You know, Stu Mandel, I think they're a really good
job pointing out looks like he's holding the ball a
little tight, maybe still has a case in the case
of the Yips a little bit. Maybe that's what's going on.
But here's the deal. They got out with a win.
It doesn't have to be pretty now. And i October,
we are a month left in the season. I think
what we got six seven teams buying for probably four
spots in the Collage Football Playoff.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: The simple truth is just when baby Texas Alabama, old
mess did all that. It wasn't always pretty, but it
took care of business.
Speaker 1: Hey, let's talk about Quinn yours, who was my preseason
heisman pick. I don't know that, you know, maybe it's
maybe it's still sort of within reach. I don't think
it's really within reach. But regardless, I think if we
want to go back to the word dominant, Quinn vers
was dominant. He carved them up.
Speaker 2: And you look at the stop, the stat line, you
get the two picks. They're bad of balls. It is
what it is.
Speaker 1: We can say what we want to say, like, hey,
you know, I hear the argument that a bad ball
is a is a bad or you know whatever.
Speaker 2: But that's not a it's not a bad read, it's
not a bad.
Speaker 1: It's you know, somebody gets their hand up and makes
it and a lot of times you look down the
field and there.
Speaker 2: It is right he after you threw the first one,
he ripped off what like eighteen.
Speaker 1: In a row and showed what can happen if you
put Texas athletes against the Eranderbilt roster. And that's still
you know, there's still a big talent gap. So kudos
to Quinn. I think that we can put the quarterback
controversy every drive should we or should we not shake it?
We can put that to rest for the time being.
You make your note over there, you arch lover you.
I see you taking receipts so you can come back
for me.
Speaker 3: And you know what, Saturday November thirtieth, if the Aggies
are out ten nothing in the first quarter and Quinn
is three of eight or forty yards, you're telling me
archesn't getting back in the game.
Speaker 1: I'm not putting them in.
Speaker 3: I'm not You're not Sork three of eight for forty yards.
Speaker 1: I'm not putting them in. I'm riding with my question quarter.
I'm riding with my quarterback and half. This is team.
Speaker 3: You're down seventeen to three at halftime and Quinn is
three of twelve for fifty eight yards.
Speaker 1: All right, I might go then, I might go, say
if you're down fourteen and a half, I might go then,
but I don't to be honest with you, I'll see happening.
You will get there. We get there.
Speaker 3: Hey, did you see for freezing cold takes? Had your
nuts for Hyson pick?
Speaker 1: I saw that you. I saw that. I saw that
you alerted them.
Speaker 2: I saw that you looked at them with my takes
I did.
Speaker 3: I gotta keep you on us. You keep me in check.
I gotta just check, bro, I gotta, I gotta.
Speaker 5: I gotta make sure moving on, because if we keep
talking about our futures and we keep talking about future
future games, we're gonna we're gonna neglect some things that
were we still needed to hit this week.
Speaker 1: Okay, So we talked on this, We talked Texas, we
talked to Bama. We have a great conversation coming up
with with Lou about l s U and Texas A.
And yeah, briefly, let me just say Arkansas's win is
fraudulent to me. I just think they outmatched Mississippi State.
Speaker 2: Kudos to the Hogs.
Speaker 1: I think you texted me and said, Sam Pittman has
has earned himself an extension. Fair, completely, completely fair. They
just dominated them all around. But just watching it, you know,
just watching it, it just looks they just look like
they just overmatched them. From a talent standpoint, it still
looks clunky to me. Arkansas, does they look clunky?
Speaker 3: Mississippi State?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 3: Despite your high praise of Mississippi State.
Speaker 4: I think Mississippi State, Missisispi State does have a quality
running back in Booth and he shows up on the
high real every week for them, and that's about it.
Speaker 1: So I think maybe in time Van Buren can do something.
But we're gonna need some time for that as well.
Speaker 3: Okay, that analysis looks he's gonna do something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you can tell him, Hedge to my bench,
right all right. Game of the week, Craig, Game of
the week. We haven't talked about it. I'm going we're
so excited, you are so excited to hear this. Auburn
at Kentucky also known as Club kroger Man.
Speaker 2: Come on, what game?
Speaker 3: Ten nothing? Ten noth in Kentucky? And then Auburn was
off twenty fourth straight.
Speaker 1: It was ten to nothing going into the second quarter,
and Kentucky did not score again. Peyton Thorne listened to it.
Craig twenty of twenty six for a one seventy two,
a touchdown and a pick. And here it is here
it is the stat that wins the game. Our man
Jarquez Hunter for Auburn didn't forget how to run the football.
Despite Hugh Free starting the rest of the team under
the bus, he escaped with his legs intact. And he
goes twenty three carries for two seventy eight and two touchdowns.
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: To seventy eight?
Speaker 3: So here's my question for Hugh why is he not
running the balls twenty times a game?
Speaker 1: He's like, well, well I saw that.
Speaker 3: Right, No, but and it worked, look at the score.
But here's the deal.
Speaker 1: They ran the forty seven times as a team for
three twenty eight every seven yards of carry. Peyton Thorn
ran it twelve times.
Speaker 3: Peyton's like stinky quick. Peyton's got some move, He's got
some move.
Speaker 1: He is he is. You know, I think I think
I would have thought as a as a Michigan State guy,
you know, low key, that you are up there the
suburbs of the Troy that you may that you may
have love for Peyton Thorn.
Speaker 3: He ain't thrown Coleman. Okay, So so here's the deal.
What the hell you want me to do with that win?
Auburn is still not great?
Speaker 1: Oh, it has nothing to do with the wind, Craig,
this was This was a train wreck meets dumpster fire.
Speaker 2: This has everything to do with the loss.
Speaker 3: I feel bad for. I got Kevin like Kroger and
true like Kevin does a phenomenal job. He does our
bold projections, Kevin mc guffy on the last word, and
he does some great he does a great job. He's
got a good little twitter, He's got some good, good
little quips every now and again. But like, damn Stoops
is like hurting. Like so I asked the question to
our good buddy Memphis Spence last night. So is Kentucky
done with Stoops? And let me let me tell you
what what Memphis said? You know, Memphis, I always got the
college credit I where it does a great job. But
he laid on some business. He's like, listen, they beat
Old miss they were one point away from Georgia. They
become now a football school they're not just a basketball school.
So he thinks he's safe, he's got another couple of years,
and it's just like, what are they?
Speaker 2: There are three and five, they're three and five.
Speaker 1: They have they have Tennessee next week, who knows what's
going to happen there?
Speaker 3: Doctor and Jack mister hi there.
Speaker 1: Then they have Mercy Date, who, again, i'll remind you,
is in the in the first year revenue head coach.
So they're down. So that's typical scheduling for steeps. Then
they have Texas and then they finished with Louisville, who
they tend to beat even when Louisville's good. So maybe
you go to and two down the stretch and they're
currently sitting on three and five and that's.
Speaker 2: Five and seven, which, oh, by the way, is what
I picked them to the.
Speaker 3: In right like, what what are they doing right right now?
Speaker 2: But but what do we what are we doing?
Speaker 1: What are we doing with stoops? I don't think they
go five and seven just for what it's worth. I
think they're gonna drop more than that. I think they're
gonna go fourn eight. I'll have I'll be wrong, I'll
be wrong.
Speaker 3: I don't know. So I think okay, like BBN like
Kevins are gonna be like Kevin's gonna throw something at
you on the chat, I think like verbally or something
like that.
Speaker 1: It's okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah but anyway, that so okay. So that was a weekend.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 3: So AI picture now big picture more important.
Speaker 2: Now, who's left?
Speaker 3: So we've got I went through. I've got six teams.
Now that we've got left.
Speaker 1: Okay, hit me.
Speaker 3: We've got the Aggies. We've got the Aggies obviously, I'm defeated,
got the inside track for the SEC Championship. We've got
l s U, Georgia, Bama, Tennessee, and Old Miss. So
I've got sixteen fort one.
Speaker 1: You forgot one?
Speaker 3: No I didn't. Who did I forget? Oh crap, I
did forget Texas Hook'm the Minister of Culture. Is gonna
take away at my hook the card we had seventeen.
Speaker 2: You didn't read it all you've sent it in. Go ahead, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So we've got seven teams. Four I'm gonna I'm gonna,
I'm gonna argue and this is gonna be interesting.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna what's there.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you. The path to get five comes
up November fifth. You know, we're gonna have our good
buddy Tony Sarah Goosa, our boss boss Man coming in
to share some knowledge. We're gonna do that instant reaction show.
And this is the biggest thing. I'm gonna look at
the colleg football Playoff right now.
Speaker 1: We need a good distraction on a number fifth so
that we can really do something. Something else we.
Speaker 3: Do we do maybe maybe maybe we'll do like a
live Twitter fore you. We'll take something off MBG or
something like that.
Speaker 1: But like.
Speaker 3: To me, the path to five is going to be
what this college football Playoff comes out, because right now
the Big ten is over inflated. I think when you
look at the AP ratings, you've got you've got Ohio
stated four, you've got Penn State at three, or or
you know your your ducks, your beloved ducks. I get
they're one, They're okay, they've done it. But I see
fraud city from Ohio State. I see from Penn State.
I see fraud City from from Miami. So I believe.
And again this is probably me being also an sec homer,
but I but I at least can admit it. I'm
like some folks. I can admit it. I think we
get at least four. And many folks in the media
are talking about three losses may knock you out of
the playoffs. I think they. I see there's gonna be
an sec bump, very real because I think the ACC
is only going to get one bid. I think Clemson
is knocking off Miami in the championship. The Big twelve
is only going to get one bid. We're gonna get
b YU coming in from that.
Speaker 1: Can get Big ten.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think the Big ten you've got Oregon.
Indiana's probably gonna get something. I think Iowa's going to
get something, and I think Ohio State is going to
be got the odd man looking out. I think they're
going to drop one here. And I think Penn State,
I just I just don't believe in them. So I
I think I think there's probably four teams. So in
that spirit, who's a trick, Who's a treat? Let's go
through that list real quick. Texas A and m Maggie's
had a big win trick? Are they in the college
football playoffs? Yeah?
Speaker 1: This is this is tough. This is tough because I'm
conflicted when we start to look at next week with them.
This just feels Let me try to be as unbiased
a trap. This is a trap coming to Williams Brice
at nighttime the week after that win over Elisu. I'm
there with you, and and then they are headed into
a bye week after that, then New Mexico State, then
they have Auburn, and then they have Texas to close
it out. It is.
Speaker 3: See that's so here. So here's the deal I.
Speaker 1: Think is can you look ahead already? Can we sell
that as a look ahead already? South Carolina? Yeah, bye week,
New Mexico State, Auburn, then Texas. This is your best.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Before Here's the thing, even with all the Auburn slander,
Auburn Jordan here is probably gonna be a seven thirty game,
which shot out to ESPN P these flexiames. I love
what they're doing. Tiger State Night. Yeah, Tiger State Knight's
gonna be tough South Carolina and the defense they are
playing confident. So I think I think there's some couple
of traps are because everyone's looking ahead to when the
Longhorns come on the thirtieth. But that that that to me,
is gonna be tough right there. I think that's gonna
be real tough.
Speaker 1: So if we're asking the question trick or treat, I
say track.
Speaker 3: I'm there with you.
Speaker 1: I don't believe they are saying track, because the thing is,
even if they even if they win up until the
Texas game, I'm gonna go Longhorns in that game, and
then I'm gonna go with even if you get a rematch,
I think that they're gonna lose somewhere in there, and
you're gonna up with two to three losses. So I
just I think so.
Speaker 3: I think Alburn, South Carolina one of the two give them.
Can we both agree? Georgia then I'm most so. I'm
most curious to see how Georgia is this week. We
got the cocktail party, but I think Georgia they're gonna
kill him.
Speaker 1: They're going to kill them. It opened at sixteen and
a half. This is Georgia Florida. Just in case you
didn't catch that. Georgia and Florida opens. Georgia opens a
sixteen and a half point favorite. I'm going over. I
don't even think it's close. I've been a noted Florida
hater all year. Yep, this is not Kentucky. I know
they just won forty eight to twenty. This is not Kentucky.
Speaker 3: No, it's not Kirby Florida Kurby.
Speaker 1: It's not I know, it's not happening that people have
the defense ready to go. You got two freshmen leading
Florida at the quarterback in the running back position. It's not.
Speaker 2: Oh anyway, sorry, So no, no, let's go George.
Speaker 1: I'm Georgia.
Speaker 3: So Bama. I'm being honest. It comes down to two
weeks from now. We're going to talk to Lewis here
in just a minute. I believe in Alabama and that's
probably me being a scared Georgia fan. I believe in them,
and I think they're going to take care of business.
So I think they're in.
Speaker 1: I'm conflicted because I would have I've picked LSU to
beat them already.
Speaker 3: You can be wrong. It's okay, I can be but
I'm wrong in Kentucky. You can be wrong. You can
be wrong on Bama.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I'm I don't know that I'm
ready to say that I'm that I disagree with that
pick that I still think it's a good matchup in
terms of giving us a good game, you know what
I mean? Like with nuss Meyer and those weapons, and
Florida's secondary, I mean Alabama secondary. Looking the way they have,
I think they else. You can put up points.
Speaker 3: I think forty one, seeh forty four. I think it's
I think it's see what I mean.
Speaker 1: See what I mean by that's a one score game.
I can see that. I can see that easily. I
can see that easily. But I'm not just willing to say, like,
stomp my foot down, this is what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: So Bama, I'll.
Speaker 1: Go against you. I'm gonna say this a trick. They're out.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well about the Missouri culture.
Speaker 1: There, they're in there, in there too much, they have
too much, they have too much talent. Where are they
gonna lose? Maybe Aim.
Speaker 3: So we have locks for sure, we have U G
A Tech. You're out, Obama. I'm in on Bama.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 3: Let's lump them together because I think they're very similar.
Tennessee and Old miss We think they're higher, but they
have a tendency sometimes to play down to their competition.
The difference between the two is Jackson Dark. Jackson Dark
absolutely three twelve games with over three hurs passing. It
set a new old Miss record plus that defense again
is elite. I think I think it is. It has
the ability to be an elite. And let's be honest,
here's the difference for Ole Miss this year. They lost
to Kentucky a few weeks ago. Yep, they've been able
to bounce back Oklahoma. If you watch that game in
the first half, that's a game In most years, Old
Miss probably loses that game again and there then they're out.
The ability for them to come back outscore Oklahoma seventeen
to nothing in the second half. Have the sacks take
care of business, dark takes care of business. Pre scoring
is a studded tight end.
Speaker 2: The end of the they need to work with the
tight end.
Speaker 3: Yep. But at the end of the day, I think
Ole Miss comes in at that eleven spot that we're
not gonna be home, so the city grocery, we're gonna
have to take a rain check. We're not gonna be there.
But that's gonna be that's gonna be an issue. But
I think almost gets it. They're gonna lose one more
than Georgia. They're gonna get ten three.
Speaker 1: I think they're out because of that loss nine three.
I think I think I think they don't let a
three loss. I think there's never room for a three
loss in. They're gonna put another big change in my opinion.
So you said the difference is Jackson Dark, I'm gonna
say the difference is Kentucky. Tennessee beats Kentucky next week
and ole Miss has already lost to them, So they
both have Georgia left, and I think Georgia beats them both.
But that's gonna lead Tennessee ball with two losses and
Old Miss with three, and so one of them gets in.
I'm going to go Tennessee, all right. So I think
I think Ole Miss is a better team, just to
be fair, and I think if you match them up,
Vegas favors Old Miss.
Speaker 2: But I think that that's not what the committee is
gonna look at.
Speaker 3: Well, that's fair. That's fair. And if you look at
my shirt, if you were watching at home, you got
to see I got the Old Miss ReBs Rock then
today yep. So my treats, I've got u g a Bama,
Old Miss Texas, and I'm gonna say the Eggies get
in at five.
Speaker 1: I don't believe in them, man, Yeah, So I'm going
Uja and Texas are in for sure. Like I said,
I think Bama's out.
Speaker 3: Don't forget hang on in. Let me tell you something.
Don't forget. The college football Playoff is about ratings. If
you're reading your sense betting lines last week, people like
to watch the SEC.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so I'm gonna actually, I'm gonna keep riding
the wagon. I'm gonna go ASU because if they be Alabama,
and they are, they're too long.
Speaker 3: Who's your fourteenths? You got Texas, George.
Speaker 1: Texas, Georgia, LSU and this last one comes down to
A and M or Tennessee. I'm gonna go Tennessee.
Speaker 3: Dialley is gonna come sing about playoff games.
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't
like it. I still don't even think they're good. I
don't believe in them, but I just think the schedule.
We've said it from the beginning. This goes back to
the Missouri argument. Who's still six and two and theoretically
has a shot mathematically, mathematically, they have a shot on
the field, just shot. They don't have a shot on
the field, but they mathematically have a shot because they
could win out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Drew Pine is gonna make sure you're going to
throw it to the other team and not not goot shot,
so don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: Well, if Brady Cook comes back and they get no
l back, it looks a little different.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I still don't I still don't see it.
Speaker 1: Okay, So in the immediacy of next week, in thirty seconds.
In thirty seconds, you have Old miss at Arkansas. That's
a sneaky good matchup. You have Vandy and Auburn. Can
bandy get Bowl eligible against against Hugh Freeze. At twelve
forty five on the SC network, you got Oklahoma against
what your your your.
Speaker 3: Guy, what banana bananaataty.
Speaker 1: Bananas te Bear, Uh the cocktail Party, which I think
is going to be completely uneventful. A second SEC team
plays U Mass when Mississippi State looks for win number
two on the season. It's the two and six minute
men Kentucky and Tennis give us a night cap. On
a C network is seven forty five and oh yeah, ABC,
the seven thirty game in Williams Bryce Aggie's come in
and uh that I think it's gonna be a good matchup.
It's a three and a half point line for taste
A and m right now.
Speaker 3: So watch that old miss Arkansas game if there's one
to watch. Yep, those ones always get weird. That one
always something weird happens. Ass al my Famiel, she'll tell
you all about it. Arkansas has a tendency to break
old missus heart. They are feeling good. Watch the frost,
watch the cold. That that one that that that to me,
I've got my eye on. And then of course I
got my my on your game. Cocks host in Texas.
Speaker 6: A and M.
Speaker 1: For sure we'll be We'll be locked in this is
it just means more football and coffee. We'll be back
in just second with a great conversation with our friend
Lewis Johnson Last Word on College Football covering the LSU Tigers.
Welcome back to it just means more football and coffee again.
I'm Rob Williams. He is Craig McMichael, and we are here.
We are honored to be joined by our guests here,
Lewis Johnson covering LSU for Last Word on College Football.
So listen, lou tell us just right off the bat,
we're twenty four hours removed. How are you?
Speaker 2: How's Louisiana as a state?
Speaker 1: Look, we understand, there's there's nothing else there right in
terms of college, In terms of colleges, you can miss
me with the two lane stuff like, this is an
LSU dominated dominated state. So how's everything going? Are people?
Are we closing down bridges? What's what's happening down there?
Is everybody ready to keep pushing forward? Or are we
closing the season now?
Speaker 6: So I'm fine, personally, I'm good, but the state is
still pretty fist. It's the end of the world for
probably eighty percent of the fan base. But if you
got some people that kind of understand, you know that
in a season like this, it's ups and downs. Nobody's
perfect and it's not the end of the world. It
looked terrible, So everybody's a little little bear, a little surprised.
Speaker 3: But yeah, for the most.
Speaker 1: Part, it was weird. Man.
Speaker 3: It was like it was like a Tale of two
half shoester that wasn't it was? It was it was
twenty one seven. I was going to send you a note,
I was going to get you all hyped up. But
then you know, my buddy over here was saying, oh, Craig,
you're being the jinx. And then the second half was like,
what the hell, have we ever started to read out?
You did a great job I think in your analysis
day last word, you know, really talking about how Texas
A and M was just able to do that. You
know that read option and you know Blake Baker is
a great defensive coordinated a lot of really good stuff
at Missouri last last year, but just did not have
any answers at all. Were you impressed with like what
Kelly said? You know, like how do you know what
was Kelly's reaction after the game with that? And like,
you know, was he throwing Baker under the bus? Was
he was he pulling a hught freezer? You know he did?
Did he take some accountability for that?
Speaker 6: He took accountability in his own way.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 6: The way Kelly kind of goes about that type of
deal is you throw a few people under the bus
and then he says something.
Speaker 3: To the effect, but ultimately it's my job and it's
my fault.
Speaker 1: I've got to coach better.
Speaker 6: So it took responsibility to an extent when it comes
to Baker. Look our purposely with this. I have a
lot of confidence in Baker the DC. But one of
the comments from inside line back of Greg Ken was
pretty telling. When he says that we did not prepare
for Marcel Reid, and it's kind of shocking. It's not
like a guy that's come out of nowhere. He started
a few games, We've seen the skill set. He's honestly
been more consistent than Wegman has been all year. So
how do you not prepare it for him? How do
you not see a scenario where this guy could come in?
And I was I was pretty surprised by how we
reacted as a defense to Reed's presence.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a big deal. Think I think that when
you saw Reed come in earlier in the season and
then they they just went back to Wegman without question.
Speaker 2: I feel like, not to make an excuse for Baker, but.
Speaker 1: Just from an onlooker standpoint, you get the idea that
maybe Marshall Reed is just going to be the backup
this year, and they kind of have their minds made
up on that, because it did appear to me that
when he had to start for Weigman due to the injury,
that he played really well and I kind of expected
them to maybe try to stick it out with him.
That's not what happened, So I feel like it was
a shock to me to see him come in to
say the least. In your opinion, though we talked about Baker,
who's more to blame for the loss? Baker and us Myer.
Speaker 6: Lord to blame out. I'll say that's my because even
though they didn't prepare specific lee core Reid, from what
I saw, he had the correct calls on some of
these plays. The execution, Weather's there, and I think the
the shift of momentum after the interception, then you get
Read comes in and immediately runs for a touchdown. I
think they were a little shell shocks by that on
both sides of the ball. So I think Baker didn't
necessarily have bad calls. You had guys they were playing
with bad eye discipline, You had defensive ends biting down
the line. Assignment sound football kind of went out the window. Uh,
And that's my you know, we tend to forget that
even though he's an older guy, he hasn't played a
lot the first year starting. But some of these throws
are just inexcusable, you know, and you know you're going
to get a couple of them every game, but uh,
when you're you're trying to keep the momentum or you're
trying to build some momentum and you roll them out,
you're thrown across your body and uh the checkdown at
the end, like you don't really have anything to gain
from throw it to this guy anyway, You throw a
pit out in front of him, like come on, So
I like Nuts, I'll still one hundred percent behind him.
But if I had to put more blame on one
of those guys, I put more Onnas thing I do.
Speaker 3: My Baker and you and you did a good job,
I think pointing that out in your article uh today,
you know you talked about you know, Nuts really has
to kind of do it because there's not really a
running game to really speak up with LSU right now.
Basically they're going to thrive on you know how well
lust fire does from that. With that kind of being said,
let's look, I had the two weeks obviously, the Tigers
come back home. Then we've got that familiar opponent Alabama
coming in, and it's gonna set up to be some
fireworks because that is going to be one of our
playoff game matchups where you know, the loser of that
one has you know, three losses more than likely on
the outside outside going out, But if you take a
look at it, it's gonna come down to does not
Smier take care of the ball. But I think more
importantly in that second half, how does LSU contain you know,
and I can say this as a Georgia writer, how
do they contain Jalen Miller and keep them in the pocket?
You know, give us a little a little preview of
your thoughts of kind of where that is. You know,
I'm on the right track. They're thinking about smart, thinking
about that that that run defense. You know, are we
missing something now?
Speaker 6: You're absolutely on the right track, especially after what we
saw yesterday. So the tough thing to figure out about
this team is we've seen improvement throughout the year and
that doesn't all go away just because of yesterday. You know,
it takes a pretty good quarterback. And I think Green
from markansall the week before containing them, we've seen what
Green can do. He's like, uh, kind of reminds me
of Sailors from South Carolina, but he's more accurate. They
didn't the Sailors that will, particularly running the ball. So
do we get to South Carolina LSU defense or do
we get the Arkansas NSU defense? And I think Baker
with that's you time to prepare, should have something in place.
But I think a lot of it is preparation and
getting these guys to the right mentality. You look at Red.
We played against some Arkansas a couple of weeks back. Yeah,
thirteen yards rushing yead sixty two in one half, not
even a whole half against US, So I think the
majority of it comes down to preparation. But we know
what mil Roe can do, and he's hide and cold.
But if we can contain him, we should be looking
good at home.
Speaker 1: I think that Milro has really tried to establish himself
as a passer this year, more so than a runner,
and that maybe has come back to bite them a
little bit. In a couple of situations, I would look
for him to maybe run the ball a little bit,
especially looking at the two of what just happened with Lsu,
I would look for him to take off a little bit.
Crazy thing to me is that Marshall Reith throws two
passes and the whole time that he's in there, so
it's really just zone read that he's going for lewis
one thing I wanted to mention before we before I
kind of asked something about coaching. Is the element that
I expected to be successful for LSU in this game
has been the emergence of the running game, and it
was virtually you pointed this out in your article virtually
non existent last night. I think that that hurts us
as well, right Like, if if any defense knows that
you've become one dimensional, they're going to tee off. What
in your estimation was the cause of none of those
backs being able to get going. We've talked about this
highly touted offensive line throughout the season, and even if
you add back the sack yardage, I think it was
like thirty eight total yards Russian for the Tigers yesterday.
So what were your thoughts? It just seems strange to me.
That's the one it's going under the radar, but it's
a completely unexpected element of the game.
Speaker 6: My thoughts on that was the interior of LSU offensive
line really got it sposed. You saw some improvement and
after Arkansaw you're thinking that, okayl if you've got something
going right now. I got to give Tensis there on
them credit first and foremost. They have an incredible defensive line,
and you saw miss give us give LSU some of
the same issue running the ball and putting the game
completely and less his hands.
Speaker 3: So I think.
Speaker 6: From an offensive standpoint, if you Joe Sloan, you have
to be more creative. And if you ask Brian Kelly,
here's you understand. We're doing everything we can do. But
from what I'm saying, lsu isn't uh. You know, you
gotta throw some my candy, some misdirection. If you're getting
whipped up front, then you got to do something to
make the defense hesitate. So let's put Zavion Thomas in motion.
Let him take some handoffs from the backfield. That's been
a faith of all year, but they kind of go
away from it. I'm even know up into wildcat formation.
You got athletes, let's make the most of them. Don't
don't be so married to what you want to do
the way you're just giving up plays. So many plays
last night never stood a chance. Your center and you
had one backup guard in there that came in after
the elergy got hurt and left guard. They were getting
pushed three four yards in the backfield. So that's going
to kill anything you want to do. So you got
to change it up a little bit in order to
get something going if you can't run the ball. Let's
use an example of the play where A and them
showed man and pre snap and they switched to his own. Well,
you can't do that if you have to worry about
the run game, like it just opens up so much
for a defense when you don't have any run game whatsoever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that. You know, Kate Durham's been just
a great surprise for me from the LGY perspective all year,
and I would look for him to maybe get it going.
Just looking at Alabama over the course of the season,
we've seen some holes in their secondary, but you know,
teams have been successful on them from an offensive standpoint,
both both passing and running the ball.
Speaker 2: So I would look for maybe to get a little
more balanced. After two weeks.
Speaker 1: You talk about Baker having two weeks of prep, you
know the offense is gonna have two weeks of prep
as well to go into this game. So you know
you're looking at what's gonna be a de facto kind
of elimination game. We kind of said that about this
week's game, but now we really have a situation going
into a couple of weeks from now where you're gonna
have BAM LSU both with two losses and looking at
having a an outside shot at the playoff as we
stand today. But if you lose that game, you can
just about guarantee that you're out. So a lot of
height leading up to it, a lot of thoughts, Craig,
do you have anything? I have one more? Do you
have anything before we before before I throw you under
the bus and wrap.
Speaker 3: It up, You're gonna throw me under the bus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how could you ever?
Speaker 3: How could you have ever throw me out of Uh?
Just kind of I think Lewis just kind of get
a temperature check. Let's say L s U makes a playoff.
I think I think that's the expectation this year. If
L s U falls short of that, is Brian Kelly
in trouble? I mean, so we're gonna have year three
made an SEC championship but has not won an SEC championship.
We'll miss one this year. Do you see him in
trouble or is he? Is he stable? And I'm gonna
be honest, that's the only angst I have is my
an is more against Brian Kelly than against anybody else.
Well enjoyed there.
Speaker 1: He just threw himself and he just threw himself into
traffic because that's what I was gonna say. While I
have been high the bad bingles throughout the year, Craig
has some bone to pick with Brian Kelly, and I'm
not really sure what it's about.
Speaker 3: Swear to that? Is it?
Speaker 1: That?
Speaker 3: Is it? That?
Speaker 1: That whatever? So he's been anti LSU. He's been very
anti LSU when I've been pointing the finger at hey,
watch out, they're going to be good. I picked him
at ten and two back in the spring, so we'll see. Yeah, yeah,
what do you think is he in trouble if they
lose the game and they end up with an eight
or nine season.
Speaker 6: Well, let's be honest. First off, you know Kelly contends
to rub people the wrong way, So no home, no
foul Craig. But uh no, he's not in trouble this year.
It puts extra pressure on him for next year. If
you look at him, he came into a pretty tough situation.
You go, you take a six and seventeen, you go
nine and four, you go ten and three. So let's
say you lose three games again, Well it's not ideal,
but it could be a lot worse. And you're heading
into a season where you got the best recruiting players
that you've had since you've been here. You've got the
top quarterback in the country, top running back, and top
cornerback in some areas up concerned for LSU, so before
they would be willing to run them off and pay them.
Uh but best load of cash. You'd give him another side,
but he'd have more pressure on going into twenty five
if this, if LSU had the disappointed finish.
Speaker 3: That makes sense, all right, And real quick, we're hanging
real quick. Underwood is like an hour from my house,
and there's a good chance I want to go see
him play. I'm gonna go see him sling the ball
around before he gets on the batter.
Speaker 1: So look forward to sneak, sneak a video, sneak a video,
and send the film down to Loo and make sure
we get it on the last football Hey, hey, hey,
one thing, one quick thing, one quick thing, lou before
we get you out of here. We're two weeks out
from a clash of Titans in the history of college football,
and then we have the current version of them in
twenty twenty four. What are your thoughts? I'm not asking
nasty for a game pick or a couple of weeks out.
Speaker 2: But how are you leaning if you had if you
have to lean one.
Speaker 1: Way or the other, L s U, Alabama, which way
are you gonna fall? Right now? Man?
Speaker 6: I try my best to be objective, but when I
look at Alabama last time, I watched him closely against Tennessee,
and I'm watching guys run free in the secondary, and
Nico missed a lot of them. Not to say that
unless it's gonna hit every pass, but you keep letting
guys run free like that, and you get Chris Hilton
back yesterday, which is the best d threat, which opens
up a lot of things for our other receivers. We
got some possession guys and some big guys, but uh,
Chris Hilton can really take the top of the defense.
Speaker 3: And even if he even if.
Speaker 6: You don't target him, then you got more space for
an Aaron Anderson who took one seventy five yards yesterday.
So at home, I gotta lean LSU. But I will
say this, if their run game doesn't get going, it's
gonna be a lot of the same that you saw yesterday.
Speaker 1: Yep. Absolutely, thank you so much for being with us. Lewis.
You can check him out on X at CFB lou
and we're excited to see what else you does for
the rest of the season. We have split opinions here,
but it was great talking to you and getting some
inside track on what's happening down in Louisiana, how everybody's
feeling and Baton rouge after a big loss but still
got some playoff hopes alive. Make sure you go to
the Last Word on college Football checkout at CFB lou
and everything you need to know about the Bayou Bengals.
You got it right there. Thanks again, buddy. We appreciate
you being with us tonight.
Speaker 3: Thank you, good bye.
Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to it just means more football
and coffee. It's time for the Last Word again. Thanks
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Rob Williams, Craig and Michael your host here every Tuesday
on College Gridiron Coast to coast. We're going to talk
here at the Last Word. Craig, what is going on
this week in the world. Halloween, of course, what's your uh,
what's your go to what's your go to Halloween trick?
Is it? Are you a dress up guy? Or you
a party guy? Are you a trick or treat guy?
Are you all three? Or are you an anti Halloween person?
Speaker 3: I love Halloween. I love dressing up. Listen, I always
dress up. It will always coordinate with a little one.
So whatever she's wearing, I will I will match it
to whatever whatever it's Ah, I will have handy at
school this week for the kids. I have love passing
out candy, not only in the classroom, but also love
passing out at home. Love love going out there trick
or treating. You know, three kids. Uh, the wife and
I actually set up at the end of the driveway
and the neighbors came over. We had some wine. It
was fantastic. We're giving out wine. We were drinking. We're
drinking wine, We're passing out candy. We were not passing
out wine. We were not doing any of that stuff.
There's none of that going on. But uh, you know,
I I love the holiday. I think I think it's fantastic.
You get to go dress up, you get to go
have a little bit of fun. In my younger days,
I've been known to be we had a party or two.
Now I'm a little older, a little wiser, I'm not
doing that as much. What about you, my friend?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm looking forward to. Our neighborhood is
really set up well for trigger treating, and so we
have one of the top decorated yards in the area
per the kids websites around here, the rankings if you're
into that. If you're not ranking college football, you're ranking
you know, who's got the best at decor for the
holidays on the kids websites. So we do have one
of the top rated guys in our neighborhood.
Speaker 2: He's back up to our property. So it's really cool.
Speaker 1: Just to get out and just just see the people
coming through because it kind of as an attraction on
Halloween for other people. But our neighborhoods really small, and
there's it's kind of split fifty to fifty with empty
nesters and young, young couples with young kids, and so
it's cool. You can kind of hit half the neighborhood
with the other half of the neighborhood walking around with you.
So they get out there in a big group of
all the kids and march the way down the street.
So it'll be fun. It'll be fun. You know. I
think I may be coordinating just a tad this year
as well, So we'll see if I'm able to pull
it off with my daughter too and kind of kind
of sort of keep my casual, cool, comfortable look and
also coordinate with her a little bit. We'll see what happens.
So we're looking forward to Halloween here, but more than anything,
we're looking forward to another fantastic week of college football.
This has been. It just means more football and coffee
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He is Michael.
Speaker 2: We've had a great time week you tonight, and we
will see you next time.
Speaker 3: Trick or treat h m hmmmm