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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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<v Speaker 1>Tonight's story isn't from a hunter or a hiker. It's

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<v Speaker 1>from Erin, a listener originally from Eugene, Oregon, who just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted a quiet weekend in the woods. But what they

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<v Speaker 1>got was anything but quiet, and three nights of silence

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<v Speaker 1>that felt too still, an eight hundred pound owl that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't exist in lights that danced in the sky, and

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<v Speaker 1>footsteps quiet but heavy, circling their tent in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the night. Whatever was out there, it wasn't elk,

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<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't alone. This is the story of Erin

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<v Speaker 1>and the thing that walked beside the tent. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Big for Society. I have got the privilege of talking

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<v Speaker 1>to Erin today. Erin is an individual who's a listener

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<v Speaker 1>of the show from the Pacific Northwest. Reached out regarding

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<v Speaker 1>some things that they would want to share today, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's pleasure to have Aaron on the show. Erin, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing today?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great and I'm happy to be here talking

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<v Speaker 2>with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely I know a little bit about what you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to share, because you did share some before during your

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<v Speaker 1>sign up and this area is a very interesting area.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had a few people share regarding this area, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I want to make sure you have the

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<v Speaker 1>time to share everything that you need to today, Aaron. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go ahead and pass things over to

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<v Speaker 1>you and feel free to take us back to when

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<v Speaker 1>this happened to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, great, Well, I'm going to talk about my personal

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<v Speaker 2>experience I had. This was in twenty twenty, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was you know, early COVID years, and my wife and

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<v Speaker 2>I lived in Eugene, Oregon, and we had used that

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<v Speaker 2>time of isolation to go out to the woods and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, learned how to forage and camp, doing a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of camping and just taking a lot of hikes.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's a really good time for us in

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<v Speaker 2>a way because we were out in the woods a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>But we missed our friends up north. So we decided

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<v Speaker 2>to book this camping spot up in I would say

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<v Speaker 2>Granted Falls Arlington area, and we were going to go

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<v Speaker 2>visit my sister and another good friend of mine said,

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<v Speaker 2>been a long time since we saw anyone. So that

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<v Speaker 2>was later in the summer of two thousand and twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>and we had been camping a lot, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>was excited to go. But something weird happened before we left.

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<v Speaker 2>I got this, like I don't know how to would

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<v Speaker 2>even say. It was kind of like a message or

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<v Speaker 2>a kind of a psychic message that I could have

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of encounter. And I said to whatever was

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<v Speaker 2>talking to me, I said, I don't really want an encounter.

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<v Speaker 2>Just leave us alone, you know. And I am kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a sensitive so you know, I've had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of you could say, paranormal or kind of strange experiences

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<v Speaker 2>in my life, but I'm not a chaser of them,

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<v Speaker 2>at least not anymore. I did in my past, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just kind of want to be left alone now.

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<v Speaker 2>But I did. I was very much aware of Sasquatch

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, growing up in Seattle area, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I just kind of knew that it was around, or

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<v Speaker 2>I hoped it was around, let's put it that way. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>So we hooked it up to Washington State and from Eugene,

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<v Speaker 2>and the first day we arrived at this camp site,

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<v Speaker 2>it was kind of like back behind it was like

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<v Speaker 2>a good I don't know, a quarter mile behind this

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<v Speaker 2>house and it was off, you know. We booked it

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<v Speaker 2>off one of these camp sites you can you can rent,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was kind of back in this kind of

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<v Speaker 2>old second growth forest area, and we pulled up this

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<v Speaker 2>driveway and it was like a little packed, packed gravel driveway.

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<v Speaker 2>We pulled up in our truck and kind of looked around,

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<v Speaker 2>set up our tents in the driveway like in front

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<v Speaker 2>of the truck, and then there was a small campground

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<v Speaker 2>where we could like cook and stuff and had a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of logs we could sit on, so it wasn't big.

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<v Speaker 2>We did. We put our tents up in the driveway.

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<v Speaker 2>Behind that was the truck, and you could there was

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<v Speaker 2>not a lot of room to walk, you know, up

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<v Speaker 2>and down the driveway. You had to really get in

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<v Speaker 2>the bushes to get in your tent, so that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of it was kind of important. And then there was

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<v Speaker 2>like just to kind of like tell people there's this

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<v Speaker 2>little camp site. And then off to the left there

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<v Speaker 2>was this beaver pond down below, and off to the

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<v Speaker 2>right where this kind of hills that went up into

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<v Speaker 2>the cascades. Right it just kind of got bigger and bigger,

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<v Speaker 2>and then to the north there was this ridge. It

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty high up I would say about two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred feet high, and you know, so it was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of surrounded by you know, hills in this ridge

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<v Speaker 2>then down below this beaver pond. So you're like, we're

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<v Speaker 2>all cool, you know, we made some dinner, we got

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<v Speaker 2>through in the afternoon, We're starting to get dinner together.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just noticed like it was quiet. It was

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<v Speaker 2>super quiet. And we had been camping a lot in

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<v Speaker 2>in Oregon, and I thought, well, maybe, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's just kind of weird in Washington. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't done a lot of camping up here, so maybe

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<v Speaker 2>there's just not a lot of bug noises or birds

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. You could hear a pin drop, and the

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<v Speaker 2>air was just so still. It was just like heavy,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was kind of freaked out about that. And

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<v Speaker 2>around the camp around the campsite is about a four

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<v Speaker 2>foot hedge of salal bushes, you know, and I just gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you know, just kept kind of shining

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<v Speaker 2>my my flashlight around, just make sure there was no

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<v Speaker 2>eye shine, nothing watching us. I just kind of felt weird.

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<v Speaker 2>That night, it got real dark, dinner was over, and

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<v Speaker 2>the moon was rising, was a full moon. Still no sounds,

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<v Speaker 2>no night sounds, nothing, and we were just sitting and talking,

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<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden, we hear this howl out

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<v Speaker 2>in the hills behind the camp campsite, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>one of those Ohio howl sounds, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Like started real low and it got kind of higher

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<v Speaker 2>and it was long. And I looked at my wife

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, I think we're not alone, and she

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<v Speaker 2>kind of looked at me. And then we heard another

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<v Speaker 2>one and I said, I know what that sound is.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a sasquatch around here. And she was like,

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<v Speaker 2>what it was probably I'm going to say about a

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<v Speaker 2>mile away, but it was real loud, and I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing has lungs like that. A wolf doesn't have lungs

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<v Speaker 2>like that. And I could tell like there was something

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<v Speaker 2>out there. So I was like, okay, cool, you know

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<v Speaker 2>that's cool. They're here. You know. I just said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we respect you. We're not going to do nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Just leave us alone, you know. And so we were

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<v Speaker 2>sitting there and just kind of talking about that for

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<v Speaker 2>a minute, and then we see up in the ridge.

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<v Speaker 2>She kind of points up at the ridge and there

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<v Speaker 2>are these lights up there, and you know, they're pretty

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<v Speaker 2>far up there, but the lights were off off the

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<v Speaker 2>ground a bit and they were like white or blank

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<v Speaker 2>lights and they were moving around and I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's got to be a plane, right, like we're looking

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<v Speaker 2>at really high maybe the optics or something or kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a optical illusion or something like that. But the

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<v Speaker 2>lights were moving kind of back and forth, kind of zigzaging,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, plane doesn't do that, doesn't zigzag

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<v Speaker 2>like that. And yeah, we were just watching them for

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, good about twenty minutes. And I had

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<v Speaker 2>seen UFOs before down in the desert dig down in

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<v Speaker 2>New Mexico and Arizona, so I was like, well, we

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<v Speaker 2>have more company. So we just kind of kind of

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<v Speaker 2>watched the light show and the moon came up. We

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<v Speaker 2>watched the moon for a while and I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's time to go to bed. You know, everything's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>So still the whole night and no sounds, no night sounds,

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<v Speaker 2>no bugs, nothing. So the next day it was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a normal day. We went out, we did some stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>saw some friends, came back, and it was just normal,

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<v Speaker 2>like you hear the crickets or whatever they are out there,

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<v Speaker 2>birds flapping around. We saw a heron fly by, the

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<v Speaker 2>beaver was in a great mood. He was jumping in,

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<v Speaker 2>in and out of that pond. You know. We ate

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<v Speaker 2>some dinner, We saw the moon rise, and we saw

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<v Speaker 2>the light show again up on that ridge, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're backaways, we're in the foothills, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that was someone running around with a flashlight. There was

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<v Speaker 2>no house up there or anything, and it was it

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<v Speaker 2>was flying above the surface of the ridge. So we

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, I just figured it was some UFOs

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<v Speaker 2>or something, you know. So we watched that for a

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<v Speaker 2>while and went to bed, and it was just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a normal night. We have a couple of dogs

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<v Speaker 2>with us too, and one is you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 2>special needs, and I have my little little dog. So

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<v Speaker 2>we had two tents. They were set up right next

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<v Speaker 2>to each other, and the one dog needs a little

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<v Speaker 2>special medication anxiety issues. So we just thought we'd have

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<v Speaker 2>two tents, you know, and my wife's snores and I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to be around. So anyway, we had two

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<v Speaker 2>tents and you know, that night went by without incident,

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<v Speaker 2>but the third night something happened. We had we got back,

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<v Speaker 2>we were out in Index and we were out by

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<v Speaker 2>the river and got a lot of sun, and we

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<v Speaker 2>came back and you know, we're kind of tired, but

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<v Speaker 2>we wanted to walk around the area a bit, the

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<v Speaker 2>area around our camp ground, and there were a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of trails that one was real dark, and I had

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of like old trees that had fallen down

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<v Speaker 2>back there, and there was like it was real dark

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<v Speaker 2>with trees, but there were some old trees that had

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<v Speaker 2>fallen and it just kind of gave me the creeps.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said to her, you know, I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to be back here. It feels real squatchy to me.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, I don't I don't know. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>she's been listening to me about sasquatch for years and

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<v Speaker 2>people think I'm nuts, but I just know they're out there,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and I kind of have this I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of have a love for them because you know, they're

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like the they're kind of like free beings,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and I just I like the idea of

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<v Speaker 2>these beings running around free, and you know, certainly we're

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<v Speaker 2>not free, So I like the idea of a wild

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<v Speaker 2>kind of humanoid creature running around. You know. It just

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<v Speaker 2>makes me feel like kind of expand of thinking about it. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I've always talked about it, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really I'm not a big advocate of chasing them. I

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<v Speaker 2>think just leaving them alone, you know, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you come across one, it's kind of like a gift.

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<v Speaker 2>But I didn't want to come across one out there

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<v Speaker 2>because it just felt real creepy. So and when I

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<v Speaker 2>first got that message before we left, I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>it just felt weird, Like I just I didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to have an encounter, you know, I just didn't. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>the third night we came back, we went down that

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<v Speaker 2>creepy trail, we walked around the property a bit, and

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<v Speaker 2>we were walking back to the campsite and my dog,

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<v Speaker 2>And I kept trying to like say, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>probably just really tired. But I had never seen him

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. But we got back up to the site

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<v Speaker 2>to the vet? And she was like, no, he's just okay.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'd never seen him like that. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>feeling real nervous. I just started feeling like my anxiety

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<v Speaker 2>but I just felt like there was something around and

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<v Speaker 2>I would do the flashlight thing and the bushes and

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<v Speaker 2>around the back and I didn't see anything, but again,

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<v Speaker 2>so quiet, and she was like, you know, we heard

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<v Speaker 2>only sound you heard, and we didn't see any lights,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was like, you know, I need to I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just exhausted. I'm going to go to bed into her tent.

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<v Speaker 2>My whole body was just vibrating, and so I went

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<v Speaker 2>some old This is how old I am. I had

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<v Speaker 2>a CD player with like headphones, and I brought the

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<v Speaker 2>CD to play just in case I needed to have

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<v Speaker 2>some music to go to sleep, and I put those

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<v Speaker 2>I just felt so uneasy. And anyway, I must have

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<v Speaker 2>fallen asleep, but I don't know. It must have been

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a maybe an hour or two later, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I woke up to three sounds that seemed like there

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<v Speaker 2>may be maybe about maybe one hundred yards away. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not very good at my distance, but and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I was original in saying this, but I've

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<v Speaker 2>heard it since on people's encounters. It sounded like an

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<v Speaker 2>eight hundred pound owl. And I was like, there were

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<v Speaker 2>three exact same sounds and they cut through the night

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<v Speaker 2>like butter. It was whatever made those sounds had lungs

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<v Speaker 2>that I just can't even imagine like whale's lungs or something,

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<v Speaker 2>and it sounded like they were trying to be an owl,

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<v Speaker 2>but that wasn't no owl, okay. And I was just

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<v Speaker 2>like I just kind of shot up, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>what the check was that? And I just didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>what to make of it. It just woke me up,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just something was out there, not too far away.

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<v Speaker 2>But for some reason, I just put the headphones back

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<v Speaker 2>on and just tried to like go back to sleep,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I just I just don't think about it,

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<v Speaker 2>go back to sleep. Well, it must have been I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. Another hour or two later, I shot up

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<v Speaker 2>and my body, my whole body was in full on,

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<v Speaker 2>full metal jacket terror. Okay. I was like my heart

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<v Speaker 2>was racing. I thought I was gonna throw up. I

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<v Speaker 2>was in absolute a state of terror. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>in that state before it even woke up. It's hard

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<v Speaker 2>to explain that, but I wasn't even quite awake to

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<v Speaker 2>know why my body was shaking so hard, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like trying to get control, you know, myself, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And then I hear a footstep and it's right outside

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<v Speaker 2>my tent, and it was like really quiet. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a quiet footstep, and then like I thought, well, this

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<v Speaker 2>can't be a bear because we kind of we did

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, the thing you shouldn't do. We left

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<v Speaker 2>our dishes unwashed after dinner, and I thought, of it

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<v Speaker 2>was a bear. We hit it rooting around out there,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get some food or whatever. But this thing

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<v Speaker 2>was right outside my tent, and whatever it was was

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<v Speaker 2>huge because I heard the second step and it was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to be real quiet, but it was like crushing

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<v Speaker 2>the crush gravel, you know, the crush gravel, like how

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<v Speaker 2>they crush it so it's almost solid, but I could

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<v Speaker 2>hear the sound kind of crushing, and I was just

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<v Speaker 2>I was like out of control, was terrified, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like stop breathing, but at the same time, I

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<v Speaker 2>was worried, like I was going to throw up. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I was so scary and my heart was beating so fast.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure whatever was out there heard it. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to like breathe real quiet and not make

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<v Speaker 2>any more sounds. And then I heard another step and

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<v Speaker 2>it was just kind of like going to the right

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<v Speaker 2>of my tent, and I just knew whatever this was

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<v Speaker 2>freaking huge. Because the crunch took a long time to crunch,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean of the footstep. So at

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<v Speaker 2>that point I was like, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>throw up here because my body was just shaking. And

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<v Speaker 2>I grabbed my backpack and was like rooting for some

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<v Speaker 2>pepto bismo or something, and I heard it one more step,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the next thing I know, I'm serious. The

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<v Speaker 2>next thing I know, I woke up the next morning.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember passing out. I'm not a person who's

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<v Speaker 2>ever passed out in my life. I woke up the

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<v Speaker 2>next morning and I don't even know like how that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>So I went out of my tent and I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>say anything at first, but I tried to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>stomp around outside of my tent to see if I

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<v Speaker 2>could make that sound. And I couldn't make that sound

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<v Speaker 2>with my boots. So whatever was out there was walking

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<v Speaker 2>on two legs must have been pretty freaking huge to

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<v Speaker 2>make that sound because of the pack gravel. So I

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<v Speaker 2>told my wife, I said, I had an experience last night,

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<v Speaker 2>but let's just start packing. Let's go, And so we

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<v Speaker 2>got all our stuff in the car and we took

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<v Speaker 2>off and then I kind of told her what happened,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that was kind of like that. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that day so well because as we were

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<v Speaker 2>driving back to Eugene, it was the day of the

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<v Speaker 2>big fire down there, of the Holiday farm fire. I

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<v Speaker 2>could see the smoke in the distance, and I went

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<v Speaker 2>from like it was kind of a terrifying experience I

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<v Speaker 2>had that night into a very terrifying experience in Eugene

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<v Speaker 2>and in that area down there. So I didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>process it for a while because we went into like

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks of danger, you know, from that fire that

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<v Speaker 2>was happening, and so that was kind of it. But

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<v Speaker 2>I will say about two years ago, so what was

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<v Speaker 2>that In twenty three, I was talking to a buddy

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<v Speaker 2>of mine up in Washington and we had since moved

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<v Speaker 2>up here to Washington State, and I was talking to

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<v Speaker 2>him and he asked me, do you know about Bigfoot?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh, yeah, you know, he says,

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<v Speaker 2>I listened to the Bigfoot podcast and I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I do too. You know, they said if you ever

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<v Speaker 2>had an experience, and said, well, I actually actually I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of think I did. You know, I can't one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred percent say, I did, but I told him about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I told him the area and he said he kind

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<v Speaker 2>of looked white, and he said, you know, my buddy

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<v Speaker 2>is a hunting is a hunter and he goes up

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<v Speaker 2>in that area and he's run across a family twice

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<v Speaker 2>up there, and he won't tell me where because he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't want he wants everyone to leave him alone. But

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<v Speaker 2>he's run across a family, like, you know, person to

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<v Speaker 2>person up there. So I was like, well, that makes

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of sense then, because I can't I can't

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<v Speaker 2>figure else what else would be that big that came

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<v Speaker 2>off the hills because they couldn't walk up the driveway,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I think that I think it was this asquatch.

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<v Speaker 2>I do, especially if you kind of put everything together,

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<v Speaker 2>the noises, you know, the silence, and that just feeling

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<v Speaker 2>of being watch and stuff. So that was my first experience.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll stop there for a sec. If you have any questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, Aaron, that was man. I can't imagine going

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<v Speaker 1>going through that. Who. I don't know how you did it.

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<v Speaker 1>I I definitely have have some questions for you. M

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<v Speaker 1>did your wife experience anything that night at all?

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<v Speaker 2>No, because she was she just passed out, she was tired.

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<v Speaker 2>The dog. Her dog was also on anti anxiety medication,

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<v Speaker 2>so that dog was asleep. My dog was asleep. My

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<v Speaker 2>dog was like down for the count, you know. So

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<v Speaker 2>it was just me.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha, And it sounds like you left extremely quick the

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<v Speaker 1>next morning. But any any footprints at all or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>markings on the truck windows that you noticed at a

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<v Speaker 1>later time.

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<v Speaker 2>Gosh, I didn't even look. There's no footprints because it

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<v Speaker 2>was so it was that pat gravel, you know, there

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<v Speaker 2>were no footprints that I could see either.

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<v Speaker 1>What CD were you listening to when you were trying

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<v Speaker 1>to go to bed.

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<v Speaker 2>It was probably like a flute, like a like a

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<v Speaker 2>Japanese flute.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's cool. It's pretty relaxing, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was trying to relax. I just felt there,

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<v Speaker 2>I really did.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you have for dinner that night? Of I

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<v Speaker 1>guess the third night.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a couple of steaks, gotcha?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Were all three nights kind of meat based, like

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<v Speaker 1>the steak meal?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're big meat eaters.

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<v Speaker 1>That's cool. That's cool. Yeah, So you were definitely making

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<v Speaker 1>some delicious smelling smells for a creature or the bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>who is totally into eating meat, and I know there's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be so many comments after that's there no

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<v Speaker 1>big eats planned. You get it, guys. There's a weird

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<v Speaker 1>thing though. It seems like in most encounters they're drawn in.

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<v Speaker 1>There's like a the campers will be cooking bacon. I've

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<v Speaker 1>noticed that patterns very weird. But yes, steak, steak is there?

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<v Speaker 1>You go that would do it? You mentioned coming across

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<v Speaker 1>one is a gift? What can you explain why you

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<v Speaker 1>have that that thought process of of why you think

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<v Speaker 1>coming across one is as is a gift?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, for me it would be, but you know, thinking

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<v Speaker 2>that and then having that experience, and I can't say

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent it was, but I'm thinking it's about

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<v Speaker 2>ninety nine ninety eight percent. But I'm kind of of

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<v Speaker 2>the you know mind that these are kind of extra

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<v Speaker 2>special beings. And you know, in the First Nations people

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<v Speaker 2>say that Sasquatch has real strong medicine, and if you

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<v Speaker 2>have an experience of that, it's you know, they have

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<v Speaker 2>very strong medicine of truth, you know, And I just

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<v Speaker 2>think that's pretty cool. I have a lot of respect

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<v Speaker 2>for them, and I never want to make them. I

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<v Speaker 2>would never want to be intrusive to these beings because

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<v Speaker 2>I do believe that they need to be left alone.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just think that it would be a very

419
00:26:04.680 --> 00:26:11.480
<v Speaker 2>powerful spiritual experience. And I will say too, as I mentioned,

420
00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:14.960
<v Speaker 2>I am a sensitive for better or for worse, mostly

421
00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:17.680
<v Speaker 2>for worse. But I'd never come across anything with that

422
00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:21.039
<v Speaker 2>kind of energy in my life. And I used to

423
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<v Speaker 2>do work with How would I even want to I

424
00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:29.839
<v Speaker 2>don't want to even get to wu Wu because I

425
00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:32.319
<v Speaker 2>don't want people to think that I'm like totally into

426
00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:37.519
<v Speaker 2>the mu Wu. But I used to do some medicine

427
00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:43.920
<v Speaker 2>work and would do some spirit work and back back

428
00:26:43.960 --> 00:26:46.000
<v Speaker 2>in the day, and I came across a lot of

429
00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:50.680
<v Speaker 2>stuff for good or for bad, and I came across

430
00:26:50.680 --> 00:26:54.079
<v Speaker 2>when this energy was right next to me. I felt

431
00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:58.359
<v Speaker 2>like it was almost like a reverse energy of anything

432
00:26:58.400 --> 00:27:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I've ever experienced, like a reverse energy of human It

433
00:27:01.920 --> 00:27:05.960
<v Speaker 2>was like a wild energy. And that may sound crazy,

434
00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:08.519
<v Speaker 2>but I've never come across anything that felt like this.

435
00:27:09.720 --> 00:27:11.920
<v Speaker 2>And I'm a big feeler and I can, you know,

436
00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:15.839
<v Speaker 2>feel places, I can feel beings, I can feel things.

437
00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:18.119
<v Speaker 2>I've never felt anything like this before.

438
00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:26.680
<v Speaker 1>See. I think that's incredible and just and it's really cool,

439
00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:30.680
<v Speaker 1>because yeah, I believe there are some individuals that have

440
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:38.640
<v Speaker 1>the ability to sense energy and different cultures and religions,

441
00:27:38.680 --> 00:27:44.920
<v Speaker 1>and there's so many different ways to say what that is, right,

442
00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:48.079
<v Speaker 1>but I think that that is an actual thing in people.

443
00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:51.079
<v Speaker 1>And also I just need to get on a soapbox

444
00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:55.440
<v Speaker 1>for a little bit. I swear if I if there's

445
00:27:55.519 --> 00:27:58.119
<v Speaker 1>one thing I get accomplished in the next twenty to

446
00:27:58.160 --> 00:28:01.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty five years, is that I wipe the phrase woo

447
00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:07.359
<v Speaker 1>woo or woo out of the community seriously. Like so,

448
00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:11.880
<v Speaker 1>because the way that I do it is I think

449
00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:16.200
<v Speaker 1>it's just, you know, we need to take everything that

450
00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:19.920
<v Speaker 1>is happening to people and consider it right and not

451
00:28:20.079 --> 00:28:23.759
<v Speaker 1>just you know, totally just kick it to the side, like,

452
00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:26.400
<v Speaker 1>oh it's too crazy or it's too freaky. No, there's

453
00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:29.559
<v Speaker 1>stuff we don't understand, and science doesn't understand it either,

454
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:35.119
<v Speaker 1>and hopefully we will eventually, but man, it's just it

455
00:28:35.160 --> 00:28:39.400
<v Speaker 1>gets to me, you know, it's like just people are

456
00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:42.519
<v Speaker 1>experiencing some weird stuff and we have got to give

457
00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:44.319
<v Speaker 1>it credence, you know what I mean.

458
00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:49.759
<v Speaker 2>But uh, yeah, yeah, I respect I respect that because

459
00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:52.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean I can't hope that I have these have

460
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:56.400
<v Speaker 2>had these experiences in life and just a lot of

461
00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:01.079
<v Speaker 2>like stuff we won't get into. But some of them

462
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:03.759
<v Speaker 2>I didn't necessarily like at all, I'll tell you that.

463
00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:09.519
<v Speaker 2>But I do believe that we've lost as humans or

464
00:29:09.559 --> 00:29:12.359
<v Speaker 2>whatever we are. You know, I have my own theory

465
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:15.000
<v Speaker 2>about that, but I think we've lost a lot of

466
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:20.279
<v Speaker 2>our instincts, a lot of our kind of instinctual body.

467
00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:24.759
<v Speaker 2>We've lost our connection with nature to a very large degree,

468
00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:31.000
<v Speaker 2>to a devastating degree. And that these beings, whatever they are,

469
00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:35.480
<v Speaker 2>if they are the original beings here and we're kind

470
00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:39.759
<v Speaker 2>of more of a mix or vice versa, I think

471
00:29:39.799 --> 00:29:42.640
<v Speaker 2>they do have more gifts. And you know, I think

472
00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:47.440
<v Speaker 2>they do have more senses that we have somehow, maybe

473
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:51.359
<v Speaker 2>due to our what do you call that conditioning or

474
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:54.319
<v Speaker 2>whatever we've shut down over the century. Whatever.

475
00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Now, after you had this three night experience, did you

476
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:08.200
<v Speaker 1>find that did anything out of the ordinary start happening afterwards,

477
00:30:08.279 --> 00:30:12.680
<v Speaker 1>like when you got home, or did your senses become

478
00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:15.880
<v Speaker 1>affected in any way that you realized or anything with that?

479
00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:20.599
<v Speaker 2>You know, we went right into that big fire situation

480
00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:24.200
<v Speaker 2>now and ash like half of Oregon was on fire. So,

481
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:27.920
<v Speaker 2>like I said, I didn't have a lot of chance

482
00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:31.799
<v Speaker 2>to really process that, but I did write it down

483
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:34.640
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't really get back to it for a

484
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:35.119
<v Speaker 2>little bit.

485
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've mentioned a few things a few times on

486
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:47.880
<v Speaker 1>the show, but I'll mention it again just in case

487
00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:52.359
<v Speaker 1>anyone has experienced. But I think that sometimes I think

488
00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:55.680
<v Speaker 1>based on you know, what people tell me, is I

489
00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>think that sometimes when an individual is in an encounter

490
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:03.000
<v Speaker 1>like this, or maybe in an area where there are sasquatch,

491
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:10.160
<v Speaker 1>it almost maybe unlocks something in the person. I don't know.

492
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:11.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm still kind of working through it, but it is

493
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:16.079
<v Speaker 1>another pattern that I've found that has kind of come

494
00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:20.440
<v Speaker 1>up in multiple, multiple encounters over the years. It's very

495
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:25.960
<v Speaker 1>very strange, so something I'm still working through. After this.

496
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:28.119
<v Speaker 1>When you're you know, you're to the point, you're past

497
00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:32.200
<v Speaker 1>the fires, you're processing everything through, you're like, what happened?

498
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:36.279
<v Speaker 1>What happened? Did you ever at any point be like, Oh,

499
00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if this exact area has also had other

500
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:43.359
<v Speaker 1>things happen and it maybe I'll look on you know,

501
00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:46.440
<v Speaker 1>BFRORO or the big Foot Mapping Project to see if

502
00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:47.519
<v Speaker 1>other things have happened there.

503
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:53.400
<v Speaker 2>I think there have been some on bf ROW. I

504
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:56.920
<v Speaker 2>think there's some things up in you know, Grant Falls area.

505
00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:01.720
<v Speaker 2>I think it's pretty active up there. Well, you know,

506
00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:05.759
<v Speaker 2>BFROL doesn't seem like it's updated a lot. I actually

507
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:08.319
<v Speaker 2>contacted the owners of the land and said, hey, I

508
00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:11.119
<v Speaker 2>think I had experienced there. He was like, oh, it's

509
00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:13.680
<v Speaker 2>just some elk or something. I said, you know, yeah,

510
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:17.079
<v Speaker 2>elk walk feet and you know, ones on top of

511
00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:20.480
<v Speaker 2>each other maybe you know, like but it was on

512
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:22.720
<v Speaker 2>two feet. And he was like, well, it's just some elk,

513
00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:28.440
<v Speaker 2>you know. So he didn't want to get into it. Yeah,

514
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:31.960
<v Speaker 2>so I had it. You know. I grew up up there.

515
00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:37.400
<v Speaker 2>We had a cabin up in the near Machias area,

516
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:40.680
<v Speaker 2>a little bit further than Machias in Granted you know,

517
00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:44.240
<v Speaker 2>between matchaias Granted Falls area, and so we had a

518
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:46.240
<v Speaker 2>lot of land that I would walk around when I

519
00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:48.880
<v Speaker 2>was a kid, and I always felt like there's something

520
00:32:48.960 --> 00:32:50.680
<v Speaker 2>up there, but I didn't know, you know, and that

521
00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:52.480
<v Speaker 2>was a long time ago. You know, I'm in my

522
00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:57.039
<v Speaker 2>fifties now, but yeah, I just you know, I kind

523
00:32:57.039 --> 00:32:59.160
<v Speaker 2>of grew up knowing there was something out there.

524
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:04.240
<v Speaker 1>The other thing I wanted to ask you before we

525
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:07.480
<v Speaker 1>continued was when you lived down in Eugene. Did you

526
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:11.279
<v Speaker 1>ever hear of any Bigfoot related things happening down there?

527
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:15.759
<v Speaker 2>Well, we had some. We had a couple of weird experiences.

528
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:19.599
<v Speaker 2>I can kind of go through those pretty quick, you know.

529
00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:21.799
<v Speaker 2>One of the areas you talk about a lot of

530
00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:29.759
<v Speaker 2>a Salmon creek and out of the Yeah, so this

531
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:32.319
<v Speaker 2>was during that same year probably, or maybe it was

532
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:35.920
<v Speaker 2>the year after. I don't know, but I got a message,

533
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:39.960
<v Speaker 2>one of those messages quote unquote to go to Salmon Creek,

534
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:42.119
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I don't even know where that is.

535
00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:47.599
<v Speaker 2>So I had to look it up and we found

536
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:50.880
<v Speaker 2>that it was out near Oakridge. Okay, cool. So we

537
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:53.400
<v Speaker 2>went out there. And whenever I get a message, I

538
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:58.279
<v Speaker 2>used to do it, you know, because usually the messages

539
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:01.599
<v Speaker 2>have always turned out really good for me in life.

540
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:04.720
<v Speaker 2>So we went out there and we were walking down

541
00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:07.720
<v Speaker 2>the trails and stuff, and there was this one area

542
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:10.599
<v Speaker 2>where it's just super creepy. I felt like super creeped out,

543
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:13.840
<v Speaker 2>and there was a smell. It was really really strong

544
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:19.039
<v Speaker 2>and it smelled kind of like a horse but maybe

545
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:22.800
<v Speaker 2>some manure, but there was no horses around there. Like

546
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:24.960
<v Speaker 2>we were back on the river, on the creek or whatever,

547
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:28.960
<v Speaker 2>and I just kind of like brushed it off, and

548
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:31.599
<v Speaker 2>then we came back on that same trail and I

549
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:34.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of smelled it again, and I was like, well,

550
00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:37.480
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's a dead animal or something. But I just

551
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:39.840
<v Speaker 2>couldn't get out of there fast enough, if that makes

552
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:43.199
<v Speaker 2>any sense. So I don't know if it was in

553
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:46.039
<v Speaker 2>the exact area that we walked by the first time,

554
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:50.800
<v Speaker 2>but I did feel a little bit uneasy on that

555
00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:57.760
<v Speaker 2>particular visit to Salmon Creek. And then the other experience

556
00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:02.920
<v Speaker 2>we had in Oregon that was significant was we were

557
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:09.760
<v Speaker 2>out near Mary's Peak area near the in the Coastal Range,

558
00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:13.800
<v Speaker 2>and we were camping nearby, and we decided to go

559
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:18.000
<v Speaker 2>to Mary's Peak, which is kind of like a little mountain,

560
00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:23.719
<v Speaker 2>and I was doing some foraging and I was working

561
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:28.079
<v Speaker 2>on getting some Devil's Club and my wife took the dog,

562
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:32.440
<v Speaker 2>her dog up further the explore the trail up above

563
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:36.960
<v Speaker 2>where I was working on the Devil's Club, and she

564
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:40.039
<v Speaker 2>got off the creek, she got up there aways, and

565
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:42.920
<v Speaker 2>next thing I know, she was coming down the trail

566
00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:46.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of white face, and her dog was like running

567
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:48.480
<v Speaker 2>down and I said, what's going on, and she's like,

568
00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:51.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. But we hit something up there and

569
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:53.599
<v Speaker 2>we were told not to come up any further, like

570
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:56.559
<v Speaker 2>we were not to go any further. The dog wouldn't move,

571
00:35:57.239 --> 00:36:00.920
<v Speaker 2>and I just got kind of hit and I said said, okay,

572
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:06.320
<v Speaker 2>let's get out of here. And so you know, I

573
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:08.960
<v Speaker 2>had just finished with my little forage and we got

574
00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:13.679
<v Speaker 2>back into the truck and she was like, I feel sick.

575
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:17.360
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I have a headache, and I feel

576
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:20.679
<v Speaker 2>really out of it. And I said, what exactly happened.

577
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:22.960
<v Speaker 2>She's like, I don't know. We just couldn't go any farther,

578
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Like the dog stopped and like I was told we

579
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:31.440
<v Speaker 2>do not go any further. And so I said, okay,

580
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:33.280
<v Speaker 2>let's get out of here. So we moved back to

581
00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:35.639
<v Speaker 2>the campsite. And I said, I wonder if you got

582
00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:39.280
<v Speaker 2>hit with some I mean just a theory, but that

583
00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:42.239
<v Speaker 2>some of that infrasound, because it sounds like something was

584
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:47.119
<v Speaker 2>telling you not to proceed. And she had a headache

585
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:50.679
<v Speaker 2>and she was kind of nauseous that whole day. So

586
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:56.039
<v Speaker 2>I did look up Mary's Peak on THEFO and yes,

587
00:36:56.079 --> 00:37:01.639
<v Speaker 2>there have been experiences up there, so I think she

588
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:05.039
<v Speaker 2>had her experience. It kind of it was kind of

589
00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:07.159
<v Speaker 2>a humbling experience for her there.

590
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm absolutely not surprising, especially I mean I've heard

591
00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:25.000
<v Speaker 1>multiple interviews brought up the Salmon Creek area of Oakridge.

592
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:29.679
<v Speaker 1>There's even stuff documented back to the seventies, I think

593
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:35.800
<v Speaker 1>in John Green's file. But thank you for sharing that that.

594
00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I think that that was something that you hadn't even

595
00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:41.119
<v Speaker 1>planned on bringing up.

596
00:37:41.440 --> 00:37:48.519
<v Speaker 2>Correct the Mary's Peak experience. Yeah, yeah, I forgot about that.

597
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:58.519
<v Speaker 2>That was weird. That was really weird. So we don't

598
00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:01.400
<v Speaker 2>know what that was. But she was told not to

599
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:04.840
<v Speaker 2>proceed and she got the message and she was like,

600
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:08.320
<v Speaker 2>white is a ghost coming down that hill on that trail.

601
00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:11.159
<v Speaker 2>So we go out in the woods a lot and

602
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:14.119
<v Speaker 2>have not had any weird experiences up here. We live

603
00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:21.280
<v Speaker 2>in north of Seattle near Skeadget County, and we go

604
00:38:21.400 --> 00:38:25.000
<v Speaker 2>out in the you know, the foothills a lot out there,

605
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:28.480
<v Speaker 2>and I, yeah, I'm learning that's actually not really safe

606
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:32.239
<v Speaker 2>to go out there. There's a lot of there's a

607
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:35.239
<v Speaker 2>lot of weird instances with humans out there. So we

608
00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:36.960
<v Speaker 2>don't go out as much as we used to, but

609
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:40.000
<v Speaker 2>we do go out, you know, up in Watam County

610
00:38:40.039 --> 00:38:43.440
<v Speaker 2>and stuff. So I haven't had experience like that since.

611
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:53.440
<v Speaker 2>But I have a friend who had an experience down

612
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:59.320
<v Speaker 2>in Montesano up experience, and I can tell you about

613
00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:02.360
<v Speaker 2>that too. Point that's pretty amazing.

614
00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:06.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, you said, was that Monte Sano? Is that Washington?

615
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:15.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's in Washington, south southwest Washington, kind of a

616
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:18.880
<v Speaker 2>little bit south of the peninsula. You know, there's a

617
00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:23.800
<v Speaker 2>lot of logging out there. And so this is the

618
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:26.679
<v Speaker 2>last story I have. Actually, my niece this is another

619
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:29.280
<v Speaker 2>just a little side thing. I can't tell her story,

620
00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:34.360
<v Speaker 2>but my niece grew up visiting her grandparents in the

621
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:38.360
<v Speaker 2>woods and she would get visited as a child by

622
00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:42.119
<v Speaker 2>the monkey Man, like several times. Yeah, so she has

623
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:46.199
<v Speaker 2>her own I will say, I believe her, and I

624
00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:50.800
<v Speaker 2>just know these things are true. I know that they're

625
00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:53.280
<v Speaker 2>out there. So because I have another friend who had

626
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:56.320
<v Speaker 2>an experience down in Georgia that was like just absolutely

627
00:39:56.400 --> 00:40:00.159
<v Speaker 2>terrifying story. But I can't tell her story either, but hm,

628
00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:03.480
<v Speaker 2>she saw him ride up close right outside her house,

629
00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:06.480
<v Speaker 2>like kind of creeping around her house and stuff. So

630
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:15.360
<v Speaker 2>but this this friend of mine down in Montaceo, Okay,

631
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:19.840
<v Speaker 2>so he owns this. Well, he's not with us anymore,

632
00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:23.800
<v Speaker 2>but he owned this Patcher land. He had a house

633
00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:27.159
<v Speaker 2>on it, and he was a prayer man, a Lakota

634
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:31.599
<v Speaker 2>prayer man. And he had a ceremony on his land.

635
00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:36.679
<v Speaker 2>And there's a whole bunch of people that came, some

636
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:42.159
<v Speaker 2>from South Dakota and some people from Washington came. And

637
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:45.960
<v Speaker 2>it was a four day ceremony. And I was I

638
00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:48.960
<v Speaker 2>was there on his land as one of the cooks.

639
00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:52.239
<v Speaker 2>I was cooking for the people, and I was cooking

640
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:54.639
<v Speaker 2>in this little barn that he had. So I know

641
00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:57.079
<v Speaker 2>his I know his property, and I know what he's

642
00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:00.800
<v Speaker 2>talking about when he told told his story, and he

643
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:04.960
<v Speaker 2>told his story to my closest friend at that time.

644
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:08.400
<v Speaker 2>She's no longer with us either. But this guy would

645
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:12.119
<v Speaker 2>not tell he was he was a man of few words,

646
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:14.320
<v Speaker 2>let's put it that way. He was very he didn't

647
00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:19.840
<v Speaker 2>talk much, and he was kind of a serious man.

648
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:22.519
<v Speaker 2>He was a prayer man, and he was very devoted

649
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:29.480
<v Speaker 2>to his spirituality. So anyway, and this barn, this little

650
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:33.320
<v Speaker 2>white shed or whatever that we cooked in was I

651
00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:39.119
<v Speaker 2>don't know. Let me sink, you're one hundred feet from

652
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:42.840
<v Speaker 2>his house, I don't know. Something like that. So he

653
00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:48.840
<v Speaker 2>had an experience after the ceremonies were done, and we

654
00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:51.920
<v Speaker 2>all had experiences at that ceremony. But after that was

655
00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:54.800
<v Speaker 2>done and over, maybe I don't know, within that year

656
00:41:56.079 --> 00:41:59.280
<v Speaker 2>he was one. He went one day, was at his

657
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:01.440
<v Speaker 2>breakfast table, having his coffee. He looked out to it

658
00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:04.880
<v Speaker 2>that for that shed, and there was a ten foot

659
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:07.599
<v Speaker 2>sasquatch just looking right at him, just looking straight through

660
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:12.039
<v Speaker 2>that window at him, and they looked at each other

661
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:15.880
<v Speaker 2>for a while, and my friend he just kind of

662
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:19.400
<v Speaker 2>nodded to him, and the sasquatch kind of pushed off

663
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:23.400
<v Speaker 2>from the shed and just slowly walked up this hill

664
00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:26.840
<v Speaker 2>that's in the backyard of his property. And so he

665
00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:30.679
<v Speaker 2>saw it right up front. And he's not much for

666
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:34.280
<v Speaker 2>a reaction, but he did tell that story, and if

667
00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:37.199
<v Speaker 2>you told it, it's true. And he would also put

668
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:40.960
<v Speaker 2>people up on that hill in Humble a ceremony, which

669
00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:44.519
<v Speaker 2>is the Vision Quest ceremony. And I have a friend

670
00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:47.280
<v Speaker 2>who he put up on the hill for that four

671
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:51.800
<v Speaker 2>day ceremony up there, and she said that when she

672
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:56.679
<v Speaker 2>was in that ceremony up there by herself, she could

673
00:42:56.679 --> 00:43:00.880
<v Speaker 2>hear the sasquatch sing, she called it, and she was

674
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:02.960
<v Speaker 2>just praying, please don't come and please don't come and

675
00:43:03.039 --> 00:43:05.960
<v Speaker 2>visit me. But she said they were all around during

676
00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:10.559
<v Speaker 2>her ceremony, So uh yeah, that was the that's the

677
00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:14.840
<v Speaker 2>secondhand story. But I know these people. I knew these people,

678
00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:18.679
<v Speaker 2>and they were the people I trust very deeply.

679
00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:25.599
<v Speaker 1>So we had a little bit of a blip when

680
00:43:26.280 --> 00:43:30.960
<v Speaker 1>you had shared what she called the sasquatch singing. Could

681
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:33.280
<v Speaker 1>you repeat that whatever she called it? Please?

682
00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh, she just instead of saying that she heard them,

683
00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:41.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, howling, this woman said that she heard them

684
00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:47.840
<v Speaker 2>singing and she knew what they were, and she just prayed,

685
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:49.960
<v Speaker 2>please please don't come and see me, like I just

686
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:52.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, she was up there in the dark for

687
00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:58.440
<v Speaker 2>four nights, right, so she didn't want to be terrified,

688
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:01.480
<v Speaker 2>you know. But they're up Yeah, they're out there.

689
00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I mean absolutely. I'm looking on a map at

690
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:11.360
<v Speaker 1>that area, and it's not too far from Lake Capital

691
00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:14.719
<v Speaker 1>State Forest, which is known for a lot of activity.

692
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:19.320
<v Speaker 1>And also you know, you've even got shahalis around around

693
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:25.639
<v Speaker 1>the corner, although looks can be deceiving on maps. Let's see. Okay,

694
00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:29.360
<v Speaker 1>it's about an hour away, so not too bad. Wow, man,

695
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:35.960
<v Speaker 1>thank you for for sharing that that secondhand account as well. No,

696
00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:40.880
<v Speaker 1>doubt that Washington, the state of Washington has activity all

697
00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:45.000
<v Speaker 1>over the place. And this is just you know, some

698
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:49.880
<v Speaker 1>other just some more pieces of evidence that you can

699
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:56.239
<v Speaker 1>add to to the long list of things happening in

700
00:44:56.280 --> 00:45:00.480
<v Speaker 1>that state. Would you ever want to have a visual

701
00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:04.360
<v Speaker 1>citing yourself if you were able to have that, or

702
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:07.159
<v Speaker 1>is what happened that night enough for you?

703
00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:12.400
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't mind it, because I'm always up for an experience,

704
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:15.519
<v Speaker 2>whether it's like good or bad. But I felt a

705
00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:21.519
<v Speaker 2>little vulnerable for some I felt vulnerable for some reason,

706
00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Like if I was out hiking and happened to see

707
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:31.039
<v Speaker 2>a sasquatch or I would I would love to see

708
00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:33.760
<v Speaker 2>it for the experience, but I would definitely hide til

709
00:45:33.800 --> 00:45:37.519
<v Speaker 2>it out because I do want to be very respectful,

710
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:43.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, and it'd probably be scary. But I'm up

711
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:47.639
<v Speaker 2>for the experience, but I'm not going to seek that experience,

712
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:48.599
<v Speaker 2>if that makes any sense.

713
00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:53.119
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. So what I take from that is you're not

714
00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:56.639
<v Speaker 1>the kind of person that's like, Okay, I'm gonna take

715
00:45:56.639 --> 00:46:00.000
<v Speaker 1>a weekend off, go to a hot zone and start

716
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:03.000
<v Speaker 1>banging on trees. No, that's not going to be you, right,

717
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:05.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

718
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:09.559
<v Speaker 2>That just doesn't seem right to me, gotcha, Yeah, someone,

719
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:14.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm not judging people. I just you know, I kind

720
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:17.800
<v Speaker 2>of want to be left alone. So I don't want

721
00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:22.159
<v Speaker 2>someone like stalking me, you know, so I wouldn't want

722
00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:25.360
<v Speaker 2>to do that. I just I really like the idea

723
00:46:25.400 --> 00:46:30.239
<v Speaker 2>of them being free and being left alone. You know.

724
00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:36.559
<v Speaker 1>It's it's interesting, you know, I've found it. And I

725
00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:39.159
<v Speaker 1>don't go out all the time, but I have found

726
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:42.559
<v Speaker 1>that if you just go out and you hang out

727
00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:49.079
<v Speaker 1>and you just chill out there, that's a lot of

728
00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:54.199
<v Speaker 1>times when when the stuff can happen when you just

729
00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:57.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of chill out and let whatever happens happens. So

730
00:46:58.519 --> 00:46:59.360
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of interesting.

731
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:03.480
<v Speaker 2>H I got one more experience I had just to

732
00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:06.800
<v Speaker 2>add to your and I forgot about this, but could

733
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:07.639
<v Speaker 2>I share really quick?

734
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, absolutely, go ahead.

735
00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:15.920
<v Speaker 2>So we were out we went out past that Oak

736
00:47:18.360 --> 00:47:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Oakridge area. Forgot for a minute, but we went out

737
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:24.760
<v Speaker 2>past the Oak Ridge area a bit, and I was

738
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:29.760
<v Speaker 2>looking for this waterfall off the highway, and I thought

739
00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:33.599
<v Speaker 2>we had found it. But we parked and I saw

740
00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:35.400
<v Speaker 2>this little trail and I said to my wife, you know,

741
00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:37.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to go up this trail and see

742
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:41.039
<v Speaker 2>if I can see if I can hear anything. So

743
00:47:41.079 --> 00:47:43.960
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm hearing something and maybe if I hear it,

744
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:45.519
<v Speaker 2>I can you know, I'll call you and you can

745
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:48.880
<v Speaker 2>come up. We can find this waterfall. Well, I was

746
00:47:48.920 --> 00:47:50.800
<v Speaker 2>going up this trail. It was a little bit icy,

747
00:47:54.039 --> 00:47:59.119
<v Speaker 2>and I was out there probably about a quarter mile,

748
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:02.280
<v Speaker 2>and I heard the whistle on one side of the

749
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:06.480
<v Speaker 2>trail and I thought, oh, you know, it must be

750
00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:08.280
<v Speaker 2>a bird to sound like a human whistle. Then I

751
00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:09.920
<v Speaker 2>heard a whistle on the other side of the trail,

752
00:48:11.239 --> 00:48:15.519
<v Speaker 2>and I was like okay, and I kept on walking,

753
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:17.880
<v Speaker 2>and then I heard another, like a real kind of

754
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:20.880
<v Speaker 2>low whistle, and then I heard it on the other

755
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:24.280
<v Speaker 2>side of the trail again, and I said, okay, y'all,

756
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:28.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm leaving now I hear you and I don't want

757
00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:31.400
<v Speaker 2>to be in your space. I'm leaving. And just then

758
00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:36.239
<v Speaker 2>I hear my wife say calling my name really really loud,

759
00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:39.079
<v Speaker 2>and said come back, come back, And so I just

760
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:42.239
<v Speaker 2>kept saying, okay, I'm leaving, please just let me be.

761
00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:45.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to let you be. I'm leaving because I've

762
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:48.199
<v Speaker 2>heard about these whistles, right, and that they were like

763
00:48:48.440 --> 00:48:52.679
<v Speaker 2>walking with me and whistling on both sides. That kind

764
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:55.199
<v Speaker 2>of freaked me out, and so I got back to

765
00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:58.199
<v Speaker 2>the car and she was like something, I just knew

766
00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:00.480
<v Speaker 2>I had to call you back. I knew something wasn't right,

767
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:04.239
<v Speaker 2>and I said, yeah, yeah, someone was tracking me out

768
00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:07.280
<v Speaker 2>there and whistling both sides of the trail and I

769
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:09.239
<v Speaker 2>just couldn't get out of there fast enough and so

770
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:11.719
<v Speaker 2>we just kind of sped off, and I kind of

771
00:49:11.719 --> 00:49:15.239
<v Speaker 2>forgot about that experience too, But yeah, that was out

772
00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:17.000
<v Speaker 2>there in that area.

773
00:49:18.320 --> 00:49:22.679
<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's that's some crapy stuff. Was that? Uh was

774
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:23.960
<v Speaker 1>that Salt Creek Falls?

775
00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:29.280
<v Speaker 2>I think that might have been. I can't can't, I

776
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:33.360
<v Speaker 2>can't be sure, but that sounds kind of familiar.

777
00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:35.719
<v Speaker 1>That's weird stuff.

778
00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:39.719
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I was trying to find it and I

779
00:49:39.719 --> 00:49:42.519
<v Speaker 2>couldn't find it, but I went up this trail and

780
00:49:42.599 --> 00:49:47.559
<v Speaker 2>I started having those whistles on both sides. Yeah, so

781
00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:53.360
<v Speaker 2>it was Salt Creek. Yeah. Were there experiences up there too?

782
00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:59.320
<v Speaker 1>I have heard a few things from that area. Yeah yeah, yeah,

783
00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:04.480
<v Speaker 1>so really, really, you could you could say that about

784
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:07.159
<v Speaker 1>any anything in the any area in the willlame At

785
00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:10.760
<v Speaker 1>National Forest. Is what I'm finding out, And I mean

786
00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:14.519
<v Speaker 1>the whole Pacific Northwest, but I've pretty much only gone

787
00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:17.719
<v Speaker 1>to that area so far. Just some really interesting things

788
00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:21.239
<v Speaker 1>you've shared tonight, and UH, I just want to thank

789
00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:25.599
<v Speaker 1>you for for coming on to share those. Uh. It's

790
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:29.480
<v Speaker 1>it's cool to hear more things from the Granite Falls

791
00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:34.159
<v Speaker 1>area of Washington, uh and in other places as well.

792
00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:36.760
<v Speaker 1>And just want to say, uh, thank you for for

793
00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:39.760
<v Speaker 1>coming on Aaron to to to share what you experienced

794
00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:41.639
<v Speaker 1>over the years.

795
00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Jeremiah, keep doing your great work. I enjoy

796
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:47.280
<v Speaker 2>every episode.

797
00:50:47.559 --> 00:50:51.159
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that. And if you know, if anything else

798
00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:54.400
<v Speaker 1>ever happens, feel free to you know, you've got my

799
00:50:54.440 --> 00:50:57.360
<v Speaker 1>contact info and you know, always feel free to uh

800
00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:01.719
<v Speaker 1>to send my info uh to anyone you might know

801
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:04.039
<v Speaker 1>that it needs a place to talk as well. But

802
00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:08.280
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much, thank you, have a great night,

803
00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:16.639
<v Speaker 1>you two, Okay, goodbye. Just wanted to take a minute

804
00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:18.800
<v Speaker 1>to say thank you truly for listening to this episode

805
00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:21.960
<v Speaker 1>of the Big for Society podcast. Aaron's story is one

806
00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:24.800
<v Speaker 1>that lingers, not just because of the gravel crunching footsteps

807
00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:27.639
<v Speaker 1>or the white orbs dancing above the ridge, but because

808
00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:31.079
<v Speaker 1>of the deep feeling that was carried that they weren't alone,

809
00:51:32.840 --> 00:51:35.039
<v Speaker 1>So huge thanks to Erin for opening up and sharing

810
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:38.440
<v Speaker 1>such a powerful and vulnerable experience with us. This one

811
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812
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<v Speaker 1>hitting the bell icon, and sharing this episode with a

813
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<v Speaker 1>friend who's in the Sasquatch a good campfire mystery, or

814
00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:51.039
<v Speaker 1>just weird things in the woods. And hey, if you've

815
00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:53.599
<v Speaker 1>had an encounter of your own, especially in the Pacific Northwest,

816
00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:56.320
<v Speaker 1>please shoot me an email at big for Society at

817
00:51:56.320 --> 00:51:59.000
<v Speaker 1>gmail dot com. I'd love to hear your story and

818
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819
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824
00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:21.159
<v Speaker 1>the Bigfoot Society. Until next time, keep your eyes open,

825
00:52:21.320 --> 00:52:25.119
<v Speaker 1>trust your instincts, and remember some gifts come quietly in

826
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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the night.