Speaker 1: Donald Trump's disastrous trade war with Canada has not only
Speaker 1: inflicted financial pain and stress on the American people, but
Speaker 1: it is also causing political anxiety for members of Donald
Speaker 1: Trump's own party. Like Republican Senator Susan Collins of Maine.
Speaker 1: This is a state that shares over 600 miles of
Speaker 1: border with Canada. Susan Collins called the new Trump tariffs
Speaker 1: on Canada a mistake. She said this, quote, I want
Speaker 1: us to go back to the very friendly, economically beneficial
Speaker 1: relationship that we have with our Canadian neighbors. Ask Canadians,
Speaker 1: and going back to that formerly friendly relationship feels like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, a distant possibility. Take a listen to
Speaker 1: what people in Toronto told my colleague Alex Tabet.
Speaker 2: What do you make of this trade war right now?
Speaker 3: I'm fully behind what Carney's done.
Speaker 2: F * * * the U.S., Vice President Vance called
Speaker 2: Canada a state recently. He said it was a Freudian slip,
Speaker 2: but this isn't the first time that an American leader
Speaker 2: has called Canada a 51st state. What do you make
Speaker 2: of that sort of rhetoric?
Speaker 3: I think they should shove it right where it belongs.
Speaker 3: I like Canada. Canada's Canada. It's been that way all
Speaker 3: the time. It's been a free country. I know we
Speaker 3: have some problems in our country, but poor states. We
Speaker 3: got health care. They look after us. And it's fun
Speaker 3: being up here. Go down there, what do you get?
Speaker 4: Nothing.
Speaker 3: You got to pay for everything. How's that happen? Trump's
Speaker 3: so worried about trade for Canada. Why didn't he look
Speaker 3: after his own people?
Speaker 4: Get smart.
Speaker 3: Look at us. You get sick, you go to the hospital.
Speaker 3: You got to come out with a $ 30, 000 bill?
Speaker 2: What do you make of this threat about the lake?
Speaker 3: I think he should jump in it. Put himself right
Speaker 3: to the bottom where he belongs. He can't just turn
Speaker 3: around and take something from Canada.
Speaker 2: He's recently threatened to rename Lake Ontario Lake America. What
Speaker 2: do you make of that threat?
Speaker 4: I think there's also talk about renaming Lake Michigan Lake Epstein.
Speaker 1: Sick burn by the Canadians. It is actually the nicest
Speaker 1: people in the world, Cornell and Charlie, who are back
Speaker 1: with me, dropping F-bombs and saying things like, I think
Speaker 1: they should shove it right where it belongs. Only Donald
Speaker 1: Trump could get Canadians to talk like this. And Cornell,
Speaker 1: this is like more than a year now into the
Speaker 1: intentional trade war with Canada, intentional that Donald Trump has said,
Speaker 1: and he has yet to explain how any of this
Speaker 1: benefits any of us economically. What is, I hate to ask,
Speaker 1: but what is the argument you think they're trying to
Speaker 1: make for angering our neighbors and driving up prices?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I really don't know. It's funny because I was, I
Speaker 4: was talking to a Republican colleague of mine this morning
Speaker 4: who has, who has races up around the great lakes
Speaker 4: and they're really annoyed because this is comes at the
Speaker 4: absolute wrong time. You know where these, this trade war
Speaker 4: reverberates particularly problematic. Um, Maine, Michigan, Iowa, North Carolina, Alaska.
Speaker 4: What do those things have in common? They have Senate
Speaker 4: races that are toss-up and gone from lean Republican to
Speaker 4: toss-up or lean Democrat. And again, this is part and
Speaker 4: partial of it. Look, you have a national... win that
Speaker 4: is blowing against Republicans already. And Donald Trump with this
Speaker 4: trade war is just making it worse in those states
Speaker 4: where Republicans, if they're going to hold on to it,
Speaker 4: this is why the Senate is, quite frankly, now in
Speaker 4: play because of Donald Trump and policies like this and
Speaker 4: Americans turning against these policies. I have no idea what
Speaker 4: this trade war is about because it certainly doesn't benefit Americans.
Speaker 4: Prices aren't getting lower because of Donald Trump and his
Speaker 4: tariffs and his trade war. manufacturing jobs aren't coming back
Speaker 4: and we're not growing the economy. So I'm like the
Speaker 4: rest of Americans asking, why does he keep doing this?
Speaker 4: Why does he keep putting these tariffs and these trade
Speaker 4: wars on at these times where we're already hurting economically
Speaker 4: and this is not happening? And the problem is all
Speaker 4: those Republicans running in those states now have to answer
Speaker 4: that question.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, I think, like you said, Michigan, Ohio,
Speaker 1: and Maine are the three biggest trading partners in terms
Speaker 1: of U.S. states, or three of the biggest with Canada.
Speaker 1: And all of those seats are potentially up for grabs, Charlie.
Speaker 1: And it's not just there. Republican senators, Senate candidates, they
Speaker 1: have begun to, you just keep, they are slinking away
Speaker 1: from Donald Trump on the tariff war. Ashley Hinson, by
Speaker 1: the way, running for Senate in Iowa, called the beef
Speaker 1: tariffs that Trump is looking to impose. I think she
Speaker 1: said it was a Yeah. Quote, a bad idea.
Speaker 4: Is this is this issue?
Speaker 1: Is this an issue that you can see more Republicans
Speaker 1: trying to get elected, you know, in November, breaking away
Speaker 1: from Donald Trump on?
Speaker 5: Well, they would love to write if Donald Trump would
Speaker 5: let them break away from him. This is part of
Speaker 5: the problem of being in Donald Trump's political party, that
Speaker 5: it's very, very difficult to show any in any independence.
Speaker 5: You know, and look, I mean, we just step back
Speaker 5: for a moment because, Jacob, I think you're old enough
Speaker 5: to remember when going to war with Canada, blaming Canada
Speaker 5: was a It was a bid on South Park.
Speaker 4: South Park, exactly.
Speaker 5: These are the nicest people in the world. Nobody wants
Speaker 5: to blame Canada. No one wants to go to war
Speaker 5: with Canada. And yet here we are in this. And
Speaker 5: the economic fallout is going to be considerable. But also
Speaker 5: just think about more than a century of trust and
Speaker 5: relationships with our nearest neighbor. squandered for no reason whatsoever
Speaker 5: except for Donald Trump's fragile ego and his peak that
Speaker 5: Canada has not bent the knee, that Canada will not
Speaker 5: simply roll over because Mark Carney has been one of
Speaker 5: the most forceful leaders in saying we need to adjust
Speaker 5: to a world in which we can no longer rely
Speaker 5: upon or trust the United States. states of America. And
Speaker 5: so this is a black eye for Americans. And it's
Speaker 5: just tragic. I've done so many interviews with people in
Speaker 5: Canada where I start off by saying, just so you know,
Speaker 5: literally no one I've ever met is mad at Canada.
Speaker 5: No one hates Canada or thinks that Canada is an enemy.
Speaker 5: And watching the White House right now and people in
Speaker 5: the right wing media Try to cast Canada as somehow,
Speaker 5: you know, a proxy of red China or somehow a
Speaker 5: hostile force or freeloaders. That's just not going to land
Speaker 5: because they're Canadians, right?
Speaker 4: We know them.