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<v Speaker 1>Big Food and Beyond.

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<v Speaker 2>With Cliff and Bubo. These guys are your favorites, so

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<v Speaker 2>like to subscribe and rade it live Stock and me right,

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<v Speaker 2>just go on yesterday listening watching Lin always keep it's watching.

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<v Speaker 1>And now you're hosts Cliff Berrickman and James Bubo Fay.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello Cliff, good day sir. How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Good day?

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<v Speaker 2>Good day?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I heard you got some good guests today.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic guess. Actually, I have a lot of respect for

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<v Speaker 2>for a lot of years, and we finally managed to

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<v Speaker 2>pin him down. I was talking to him before we

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<v Speaker 2>started recording here, and apparently he's all over the country now,

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<v Speaker 2>so I've got We've got a lot of catching up

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<v Speaker 2>to do. So everybody, Bigfoot and Beyond Land, all you

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<v Speaker 2>listeners and such, please welcome Scott Violette to our our

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<v Speaker 2>podcast here. Scott, thank you very much for coming.

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<v Speaker 4>On, Scotty, thanks for having me. High Cliff, Hi, Bobo.

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<v Speaker 3>Have I met you in person?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh? Actually you have at the Oregon Bigfoot Festival a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of years ago, three years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, well, those are crazy. You can't blame I

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<v Speaker 2>can't you know, nobody can blame you for not remembering

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<v Speaker 2>because my wife was at them and I don't remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, those are just whirlwinds of activity and people

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<v Speaker 2>and all that sort of stuff. Yeah, is that the

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<v Speaker 2>only time I've met you, Scott? Is that the only

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<v Speaker 2>time I've met you? Or is there something that goes

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<v Speaker 2>back further?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, no, it's just you and I were at the

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<v Speaker 4>Oregon Bigfoot Festival. We met once, and then we were

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<v Speaker 4>at the last Pocatello.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotcha, gotcha again. Yeah, it's not a good time to

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<v Speaker 2>meet me and have me remember anybody. It happens all

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<v Speaker 2>the time in the shop. So Cliff remember me, and

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<v Speaker 2>I go, well, you look familiar, but so does everybody

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<v Speaker 2>else who walks in the door. We met like four

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. Oh well that's probably why we in a bikini.

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<v Speaker 2>But Scott's a name that a lot of people recognize.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's been in the Bigfoot community for quite

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<v Speaker 2>a while, and I think he's a way worthy guest.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to learn a lot about him today and

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<v Speaker 2>what he's been up to, because he's doing some really

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<v Speaker 2>exciting stuff. But for those who don't know you, Scott,

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<v Speaker 2>how did you get into this ridiculous subject that we

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<v Speaker 2>all love so much.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was kind of totally by accident, sort of,

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<v Speaker 4>I could put it that way. I you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>was always interested in Bigfoot as a kid, because I'm

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<v Speaker 4>a pretty old guy now, and I remember seeing the

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<v Speaker 4>Patterson Gimmlin film as a newsreel before a movie when

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<v Speaker 4>I was about seven or eight, So I you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I was always kind of in the back of my mind,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, thought about, hey, this could be a real thing.

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<v Speaker 4>But what really got me into it is after years

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<v Speaker 4>of living and I ended up being an anthropologist, a

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<v Speaker 4>Native American cultural anthropologist, and I worked with a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of different universities on some archaeological digs. But what really

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<v Speaker 4>got me into it is I worked with the Mee

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<v Speaker 4>Walk tribe in central California.

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<v Speaker 2>That's in the Sierra Nevada Mountains, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, it is, yeah, around Yosemite. Actually yeah yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Think he Strain does a lot of work with them. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>she does. So what I was doing, I was working

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<v Speaker 4>with one of the tribes near a town called Mariposa

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<v Speaker 4>where we were actually documenting their history and I was

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<v Speaker 4>helping them to document their how long they had been

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<v Speaker 4>in the valley basically, and I was walking around with

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<v Speaker 4>the elders and they were showing me pictographs and petroglyphs

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<v Speaker 4>that they have found all over the years, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'd learned to read those in college and that was

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<v Speaker 4>kind of my area that I really delved into in

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<v Speaker 4>my studies. And I asked the elder, what's this symbol?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't recognize that one, and he said that's bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 4>And I looked at him and was like, so they're

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<v Speaker 4>real and he looked at me like I was stupid

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<v Speaker 4>and said, yeah, you know. So that's what kind of

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<v Speaker 4>got me into doing the research. And when I started

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<v Speaker 4>delving into you know, I've I've taken forensic anthropology and

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<v Speaker 4>college and stuff. So when I started looking at the

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<v Speaker 4>footprint casts, I started noticing that there is morphology to this,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. So I started delving into you know, of

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<v Speaker 4>course doctor Meldrum's books and some other things, and I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 4>there's a lot more history here than I realized.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, Scott, what here was this? When you saw the

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<v Speaker 3>Harryman pick her out for the first.

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<v Speaker 4>Time, that one would have been about gosh, I would

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<v Speaker 4>say ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Did Kathy did Kathy Stream learn about it from you?

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<v Speaker 3>Or did Shirty know about it?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, No, this was a different one, the one

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<v Speaker 4>she was talking about. Yeah, this is this is up

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<v Speaker 4>north in Assembity area.

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<v Speaker 3>I never saw pictures of that one.

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<v Speaker 4>Nobody has because the Miwalk tribal members keep it pretty quiet.

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<v Speaker 4>So uh. And and I haven't got permission to you know,

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<v Speaker 4>to say where it's at, but I can say, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>just recently, as in like three weeks ago, I found

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<v Speaker 4>another one that was almost identical to the one that

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<v Speaker 4>Kathy has down there, and it's in eastern Oregon here.

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<v Speaker 4>Well what yeah it and uh and it's kind of

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<v Speaker 4>interesting because there's three symbols together. There's the Bigfoot, the Harryman,

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<v Speaker 4>and then there's a symbol that's a directional symbol that

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<v Speaker 4>tells people to avoid this area, go around basically. And

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<v Speaker 4>then they have a stick man symbol which is also

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<v Speaker 4>on the one down there in California, which is more

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<v Speaker 4>of a warning sign, you know, danger basically. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>the one we found up here, it's only it's only

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<v Speaker 4>like nine inches tall, so it's unless you're looking closely

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<v Speaker 4>on the rocks, you'll never see it. But I had

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<v Speaker 4>I had a gentleman who had had seen that just

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<v Speaker 4>by accident, and had sent me pictures of it and

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<v Speaker 4>and took me out there and we were able to

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<v Speaker 4>document it just about four weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, do you have any idea how well that is?

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<v Speaker 5>Like, is there stuff kind of loge around there that

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<v Speaker 5>gives you an idea of the age when it was done?

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<v Speaker 4>There's there's really not, you know, because they use it

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<v Speaker 4>was a pictograph, so they used like iron oxide, which

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<v Speaker 4>is the whole area is just covered in it because

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<v Speaker 4>this is a mineral rich area. But so there's really

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<v Speaker 4>not there's no way to you know, carbon date rock.

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<v Speaker 4>So oh, I can't really tell you, but I can

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<v Speaker 4>give you an id. I can get an idea from

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<v Speaker 4>when the you know, the tribes that were in the area,

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm guessing probably two to three hundred years old.

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<v Speaker 2>So you took this pectograph as a was a petroglyph

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<v Speaker 2>or a pictograph. There is a difference.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's a pictograph. It's painted on with oron oxide paint.

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<v Speaker 4>Petrogless are pecked into the rock or carved.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So you're interpreting this pictograph as a warning sign

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<v Speaker 2>like don't go in this particular area. I assume you've

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<v Speaker 4>Yes we have. Yeah, it's actually really a deserted area

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<v Speaker 4>here in eastern Oregon too, but it does lead into

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<v Speaker 4>the Eagle Cap Mountains, which is part of the Blue

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, okay, so there you go. Interesting. Interesting. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>anyway back on track. So you started reading about doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Meldrum's work and the foot morphology and that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, and I started to discovering there there's a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of actual science to this. You know, there's a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of proof right here. And I don't know why

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<v Speaker 4>the world hasn't, you know, jumped on this myself. So

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<v Speaker 4>what I wanted to do is to in this probably

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<v Speaker 4>has been like almost eight years ago. I decided, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I live here in eastern Oregon. I live in the

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<v Speaker 4>Blue Mountains. I saw the Freeman film. You know, in fact,

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<v Speaker 4>where I grew up in Somerville, Oregon, was only about

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<v Speaker 4>fifteen miles south of where the Freeman film was shot.

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<v Speaker 4>So I thought, well, hey, what if I put up

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<v Speaker 4>a YouTube chen, or not a YouTube channel, but a

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<v Speaker 4>Facebook page and say, hey, maybe somebody who's got stories

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<v Speaker 4>that they could tell me. So I put up the

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<v Speaker 4>Facebook page and a website, and then the local newspaper

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<v Speaker 4>guy here did a little story on me, and next

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<v Speaker 4>thing I know, we're getting hundreds of stories, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>from all around this area. So and so I figured

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<v Speaker 4>that's going to be my operating style from now on.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess you can put it that way. Is So,

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<v Speaker 4>we put the fancy logos on our truck and all

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<v Speaker 4>that stuff, just so people would know I'm a safe

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<v Speaker 4>guy to talk to. And we actually started going to

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<v Speaker 4>setting up booths in like local fares and sportsmen shows

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, not necessarily the Bigfoot conference type stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>but just the out of the way little places. And

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<v Speaker 4>inevitably we were getting stories all the time, and I

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<v Speaker 4>was able to put pins and maps and dates and times,

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<v Speaker 4>and I started creating my own like basically database of

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<v Speaker 4>the bigfoots and the blues and or is it big feet?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, Well I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Know that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Which do you prefer? I say big foots because feet

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<v Speaker 2>is a plural of foot, but bigfoot is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't of course they have two feet.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so yeah, I go with the big feets.

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<v Speaker 2>So gotcha each throne.

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<v Speaker 3>Grammatically it's big foots.

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<v Speaker 2>I air towards sasquatches, it's easiest there you go. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, one of the most important things I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're doing is because the Blue Mountains put on

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<v Speaker 2>the map by the you know, by the Vanguard. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Paul Freeman's in the West Summerlands and all those folks,

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Lowry and those folks. But you are south of there,

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<v Speaker 2>and that zone is really quiet. Even doctor Krantz took

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<v Speaker 2>note of that, Like he said, there's a ton of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff outside Walla Walla, and people are willing to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it. But you go further south Sumter and Baker City,

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<v Speaker 2>and people are very hush hush about the bigfoot thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though obviously the habitat is great and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of things happen. It is so great that a local

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<v Speaker 2>person like yourself, I know that you probably grew up

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<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing Milton Freewater or something like that. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know where you were south of the deduct area.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I grew up in and near The biggest town

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<v Speaker 4>would be La Grand.

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<v Speaker 2>La Grand. Okay, sure, sure, Well, out in that zone,

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<v Speaker 2>not really anybody but you is on the radar that's

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<v Speaker 2>working it. There probably are a few bigfooters out there,

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<v Speaker 2>but no one is taking a high profile. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>really great that you're out there doing it and documenting

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<v Speaker 2>the activity that's out there, because it's hard to get

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<v Speaker 2>unless you're a local exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. Inevitably, like when we go to fairs and

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<v Speaker 4>things and set up our little booth, we'll have the

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<v Speaker 4>guy that walks by the booth five or six times

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<v Speaker 4>and kind of looks at me out of the side

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<v Speaker 4>of his eye and waits until there's nobody there to

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<v Speaker 2>Various low cows throughout the country really feel that same way,

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<v Speaker 2>because they're not going to report it to the BFRO.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not going to tell some guy on the Internet

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<v Speaker 2>The coast range in Organ. That's another one. I had

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<v Speaker 2>this woman. I did a gig at this casino out

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<v Speaker 2>in the Organ Coast a few years back, and this

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<v Speaker 2>the siding, and she's basically had a road crossing on

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<v Speaker 2>the highway in the general area you're the main highway.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, oh, do you live right there? She goes, Oh, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't live there. I live like fifteen miles up

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<v Speaker 2>in the hills from there. You know, you have to

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<v Speaker 2>you don't live anywhere near there. Why don't you want

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<v Speaker 2>anybody to know about your sighting? She goes, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we just don't like outsiders around here. So even though

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<v Speaker 2>world knows, or everybody in the local area knows this highway,

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<v Speaker 2>she doesn't want anybody to know where she saw it,

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<v Speaker 2>and she doesn't live anywhere new there because we don't

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<v Speaker 2>want outsiders. So what have even finding out about this.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, well, I don't want to get too far

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of myself because I know what you're doing now

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<v Speaker 2>compared to what you were doing. But what were your

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<v Speaker 2>takeaways by studying the patterns that were developing in the

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<v Speaker 2>southern Blues. Did they resemble the stuff outside of Walla,

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<v Speaker 2>Walla that everybody else knows about, did they resemble other

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<v Speaker 2>parts of the country or were they totally different? What

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, they're very similar to the ones set up in Walla, Walla.

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<v Speaker 4>But what was really interesting to me was all the

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<v Speaker 4>reports we get and I was looking at, you know, dates,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, some of these were like years and

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<v Speaker 4>years apart, but the months were the same in the

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<v Speaker 4>same place. And so I come to the conclusion that

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<v Speaker 4>it's almost I could almost see like a migratory pattern basically.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I started noticing that there was there was

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<v Speaker 4>kind of two factors to it. There was the food availability,

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<v Speaker 4>like they were in this area when the huckleberries, or

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<v Speaker 4>they were in this area when there was mushrooms, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>or that was one thing. And another thing. We got

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<v Speaker 4>more reports during the mushroom season and during huckleberry seasons,

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<v Speaker 4>and during the hunting season. So I don't know if

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<v Speaker 4>the bigfoot were there the whole time in just more

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<v Speaker 4>people there to see them, or if they were migrating

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<v Speaker 4>from one spot to the other through this area.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would be a hard one to discern because

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<v Speaker 2>certainly more people are out in those areas during that time.

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<v Speaker 2>That might be a human factor.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, So that was kind of interesting. But I started

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<v Speaker 4>looking at some of the reports and we were getting like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, rocks thrown at people. In fact, we got

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<v Speaker 4>one report where a stump was thrown at somebody in

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<v Speaker 4>a huckleberry patch during huckleberry seasons, like get out of

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<v Speaker 4>my huckleberries kind of deal. So I was thinking, if

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<v Speaker 4>we took the more aggressive I guess you would say

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<v Speaker 4>encounters compared to the ones where people just saw them

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<v Speaker 4>basically or smelt them or heard them or got the

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<v Speaker 4>tree knox or whatnot. So if youve got the more

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<v Speaker 4>aggressive ones, it's when they're in this area for food, basically.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of a conclusion I came to. It's, of

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<v Speaker 4>course not scientific, it's just kind of a scientific guess,

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<v Speaker 4>I have to say. So taking that into consideration, we

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<v Speaker 4>would hit those areas doing our research. You know, and

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<v Speaker 4>just going out and spending time in the woods. And

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<v Speaker 4>that was another thing that I decided we needed to do,

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<v Speaker 4>is you can't go out on a weekend, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we would spend two weeks or three weeks or four

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<v Speaker 4>weeks in an area and just camp out there and

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<v Speaker 4>stay there. And bying able to do that is after

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<v Speaker 4>twenty years of doing this research, I actually had my

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<v Speaker 4>first encounter, you know when first encounter or sighting both. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's my sighting. I can well, I can go into

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<v Speaker 4>that I had. I had a gentleman with me, which

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<v Speaker 4>is kind of interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>So my wife, her friend, her husband always wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>go bigfooting. He'd never done it before, and it was

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<v Speaker 4>his birthday, so she thought it would be great for

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<v Speaker 4>a birthday prison to have him go out in the

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<v Speaker 4>woods with me. So we had been researching this area

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<v Speaker 4>for a couple of weeks, so I said, okay, come

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<v Speaker 4>with me for the first time out. So he comes

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<v Speaker 4>out and we're hiking down this trail and this is

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<v Speaker 4>kind of interesting too. We're in the area where there

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<v Speaker 4>it's the watershed area for Baker City up in the Blues.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of funny how it's a watershed area. Very interesting,

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<v Speaker 4>but as opposed to the Freeman film is what I'm

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<v Speaker 4>re alluding to. But so we're out hiking trail and

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<v Speaker 4>we smelt the smell and I had never smelt it before.

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<v Speaker 4>I had had lots of reports about how it smelled,

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<v Speaker 4>but I had never experienced. And now I can say, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I get it. You know how bad it smells. So

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<v Speaker 4>I said, hey, let's we stopped, of course, and looked around.

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<v Speaker 4>But of course we're in the forest and it's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of dusaling rain and I can't see anything. And I

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<v Speaker 4>told the guy with me, hey, let's just keep walking.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe this thing will follow us or something, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and we'll get footprints. So we kept walking. The smell

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<v Speaker 4>went away, and I said, well that didn't work. So

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<v Speaker 4>we turned around and went back to where the smell

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<v Speaker 4>was very pungent, and we were scanning the trees, and

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<v Speaker 4>I finally just said the heck with it, and I

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<v Speaker 4>just went in the woods just to see if something happened,

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<v Speaker 4>and it mimicked me. I got the almost the exact

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<v Speaker 4>same sound I made back at me, and that's when

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<v Speaker 4>we were able to see it. It was two hundred feet

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<v Speaker 4>away down the hill and I saw this head bob

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<v Speaker 4>inside to side between this little tiny opening in the trees,

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<v Speaker 4>and I had about three seconds to take a picture,

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<v Speaker 4>and I got my quintessential blurry bigfoot picture.

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<v Speaker 3>Congratulations.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah. So but then we heard this whistle off

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<v Speaker 4>in the woods, and this really loud whistle too, and

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<v Speaker 4>the one I had I was seeing through the opening,

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<v Speaker 4>turned and walked away really fast, and of course it

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<v Speaker 4>was down behind a bunch of trees, and it just

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<v Speaker 4>disappeared on me and I couldn't and the smell went away.

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<v Speaker 4>So this guy looked at me and goes, am I

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<v Speaker 4>really lucky to see a big foot on my first trip.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, yeah, very So we actually spent three days

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<v Speaker 4>there after that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course the gentleman went home, but we went back

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<v Speaker 4>every day and we went down to the area and

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<v Speaker 4>where this creature was standing, we found three nine inch

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<v Speaker 4>footprints with three fifteen inch footprints next to it. After

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<v Speaker 4>shooting lasers through the trees and measuring where I was standing,

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<v Speaker 4>I put my camera on a tripod and we put

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<v Speaker 4>a laser pointer on top of it so I could

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<v Speaker 4>see where my camera was shooting down through that opening.

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<v Speaker 4>And then we went down in the opening with you know,

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<v Speaker 4>with poles to decide how so this creature was five

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<v Speaker 4>foot or six foot tall where it was standing and

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<v Speaker 4>down off this hill. So I'm figuring this was probably

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<v Speaker 4>the nine inch footprints and the fifteen inch footprints was

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<v Speaker 4>the one that whistled that I never saw.

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<v Speaker 2>Very interesting. I'm glad you now. I'm assuming you cast

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<v Speaker 2>those footprints or were they just in Dunphin You couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>We cast one of the nine inch ones. I got

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<v Speaker 4>some really good photos of the fifteen inch ones, but

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<v Speaker 4>they were on this side of this bank that was

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<v Speaker 4>nearly vertical, and it was almost impossible to cast. I

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<v Speaker 4>had to make I had to make the plaster really thick,

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<v Speaker 4>and I kept swiping it up to keep it in

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<v Speaker 4>the in the cast until it's set up. But we did,

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<v Speaker 4>we did have those casts.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh good, good do it. It takes do whatever it

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<v Speaker 2>takes to get it, you know. So and what what

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<v Speaker 2>when was this? When when did you say it? When

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<v Speaker 2>did you see this thing?

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<v Speaker 4>This is four years ago in April, four years.

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<v Speaker 2>Ago in April. Okay, okay, what's a snow situation like

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<v Speaker 2>in April?

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<v Speaker 4>Just gone just barely gone, barely gone. Okay, Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 4>where we were is that the snow is had just

422
00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:37.359
<v Speaker 4>cleared out of that area basically, and what happens there

423
00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:40.160
<v Speaker 4>if you follow the snow lines, we have a lot

424
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<v Speaker 4>of morell mushrooms and people pick those, uh in this area.

425
00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:48.680
<v Speaker 4>It's kind of an almost an industry here in eastern Oregon,

426
00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:53.480
<v Speaker 4>the Morrell mushroom picking season. But the mushrooms follow the

427
00:22:53.559 --> 00:22:55.440
<v Speaker 4>edge of the snow line. As the snow line goes

428
00:22:55.480 --> 00:22:57.559
<v Speaker 4>up the mountain, the morrells pop out first at the

429
00:22:57.680 --> 00:23:01.480
<v Speaker 4>edge where the snow is going away. So we were

430
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<v Speaker 4>right in that area where the murrales were thick. So interesting.

431
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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, and I think deer also followed the snow line

432
00:23:09.799 --> 00:23:11.839
<v Speaker 2>up because that's where the new growth is happening. A

433
00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:14.079
<v Speaker 2>lot of that new growth is the most nutritious growth

434
00:23:14.119 --> 00:23:17.839
<v Speaker 2>they get. So that's another correlation. And were you inside

435
00:23:17.839 --> 00:23:19.839
<v Speaker 2>the watershed where you should not have been or were

436
00:23:19.839 --> 00:23:20.599
<v Speaker 2>you're right outside?

437
00:23:21.079 --> 00:23:23.079
<v Speaker 4>We were right on the edge, right.

438
00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:25.200
<v Speaker 2>On the edge where you are allowed to go, Okay.

439
00:23:25.039 --> 00:23:26.799
<v Speaker 4>Where we are allowed to go. I know I didn't

440
00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:29.599
<v Speaker 4>go into the watershed. It's kind of there's a there's

441
00:23:29.599 --> 00:23:33.400
<v Speaker 4>a road that goes into the area the left side

442
00:23:33.400 --> 00:23:35.119
<v Speaker 4>of the road. You can't go into the right side

443
00:23:35.119 --> 00:23:36.640
<v Speaker 4>of the road. You can, but you can walk down

444
00:23:36.680 --> 00:23:38.440
<v Speaker 4>the middle of the road. And that's where we were at.

445
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<v Speaker 2>The reason I asked, I wasn't trying to get you

446
00:23:40.799 --> 00:23:43.440
<v Speaker 2>in trouble or anything like that. But around here where

447
00:23:43.480 --> 00:23:47.920
<v Speaker 2>I live, there are two watersheds available for working. One

448
00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:50.359
<v Speaker 2>of them is the Bull Run Watershed, and you're not

449
00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:53.400
<v Speaker 2>allowed in there at all. It's a huge fine. It's

450
00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:56.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, as a matter of national insecurity basically, you know,

451
00:23:56.720 --> 00:23:58.839
<v Speaker 2>so you are not allowed in there at all. It's

452
00:23:58.880 --> 00:24:01.440
<v Speaker 2>a huge fine for fish even a tributary to it,

453
00:24:01.519 --> 00:24:03.519
<v Speaker 2>and blah blah blah. But on the other side of

454
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<v Speaker 2>the mountain, on the other side of mountain Hood, there

455
00:24:05.119 --> 00:24:09.920
<v Speaker 2>is the Dows Watershed, where there's no fences or gates

456
00:24:10.039 --> 00:24:13.440
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, and you're kind of allowed to drive through there.

457
00:24:13.759 --> 00:24:15.839
<v Speaker 2>You're just not allowed to stop and get out and

458
00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:18.960
<v Speaker 2>park and do all that sort of stuff. So for

459
00:24:19.480 --> 00:24:22.920
<v Speaker 2>big footing from your car with a dash cam or

460
00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:25.480
<v Speaker 2>a thermal out the window or something, it's absolutely perfect.

461
00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:27.279
<v Speaker 2>And that's why I asked, I want to know what

462
00:24:27.359 --> 00:24:29.200
<v Speaker 2>kind of watershed we're dealing with, Like a Mill Creek

463
00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:31.000
<v Speaker 2>situation where you're not allowed to set foot in it,

464
00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:34.359
<v Speaker 2>or like the Dows where you kind of are allowed

465
00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:35.960
<v Speaker 2>to go through it for some reason, you're just not

466
00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:37.160
<v Speaker 2>allowed to get out and do anything.

467
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<v Speaker 4>Right, Well, this one here is closed off to the public.

468
00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:42.839
<v Speaker 4>You're not allowed to go into it, but they do

469
00:24:42.960 --> 00:24:45.680
<v Speaker 4>issue X amount of deer tags that you can hunt

470
00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:49.640
<v Speaker 4>the area, but they have strict rules about being in there.

471
00:24:50.200 --> 00:24:52.039
<v Speaker 4>You can't even go to the bathroom on the ground.

472
00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:53.079
<v Speaker 3>See.

473
00:24:53.119 --> 00:24:55.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the same thing with the Mill Creek watershed.

474
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<v Speaker 2>I've talked to people in the shop here quite frequently

475
00:24:57.759 --> 00:24:59.519
<v Speaker 2>who have maybe pulled an elk tag for the Mill

476
00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:02.759
<v Speaker 2>Creek water I'm thinking, Oh, man, I wish I hunted.

477
00:25:03.799 --> 00:25:04.880
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to go in there.

478
00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:10.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, so yeah, so the next two years I

479
00:25:10.440 --> 00:25:12.720
<v Speaker 4>never drew a tag. I put in tags. I don't

480
00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:16.279
<v Speaker 4>hunt either, but I was hoping to get the tag

481
00:25:16.400 --> 00:25:17.400
<v Speaker 4>so I could go in there.

482
00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Genius, I should do the same thing. That's great. I

483
00:25:21.480 --> 00:25:23.240
<v Speaker 2>guess some hunters wouldn't be very happy with you, though,

484
00:25:23.240 --> 00:25:24.839
<v Speaker 2>if you got the tag and you didn't try to

485
00:25:24.839 --> 00:25:25.880
<v Speaker 2>go get an elk or whatever.

486
00:25:26.039 --> 00:25:28.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly, Yeah, cool.

487
00:25:28.880 --> 00:25:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, what other sort of victories have you had in

488
00:25:31.240 --> 00:25:33.079
<v Speaker 2>the Blues before we move on to what you're doing.

489
00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:38.240
<v Speaker 4>Now, we've we've found footprints. We found some footprints up

490
00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:42.119
<v Speaker 4>in the Tollgate area, which isn't far from where the

491
00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:43.279
<v Speaker 4>Freeman film was taken.

492
00:25:43.799 --> 00:25:46.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, great footprint came out of there too. Actually a

493
00:25:46.599 --> 00:25:49.799
<v Speaker 2>woman cast it. Some fly fishermen found it. It was on

494
00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:51.759
<v Speaker 2>the It was on the wall actually in the Tollgate

495
00:25:51.799 --> 00:25:54.720
<v Speaker 2>store for a long time. But the guy who owned

496
00:25:54.759 --> 00:25:58.039
<v Speaker 2>the Tollgate store, Jeff, he sold the store and he

497
00:25:58.119 --> 00:26:00.720
<v Speaker 2>took that cast with him and one that I gave

498
00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:03.680
<v Speaker 2>him as a gift, and say, well, if you ever

499
00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:04.920
<v Speaker 2>want to get rid of that cast, let me know,

500
00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:07.240
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to have the original. There's a hole right

501
00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:08.960
<v Speaker 2>through the middle of it. That's how they stuck into

502
00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:11.480
<v Speaker 2>the wall. They stuck. They put like a dry wall

503
00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:14.079
<v Speaker 2>screw through the middle of the cast. And there's a

504
00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:16.160
<v Speaker 2>bunch of other casts on the wall too, Bill Lowry

505
00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:18.119
<v Speaker 2>cast and bunch of Paul Freeman stuff on the wall.

506
00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:22.079
<v Speaker 4>Even Still, Yeah, well I can attest to that because

507
00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:27.359
<v Speaker 4>the guy who bought the Tollgate store, his name's Wren.

508
00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:29.920
<v Speaker 4>When he first bought the story, he went in there

509
00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:32.720
<v Speaker 4>and those were still on the wall in there, and

510
00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:34.640
<v Speaker 4>since I was the bigfoot guy in the area, he

511
00:26:34.680 --> 00:26:37.079
<v Speaker 4>calls me up and says, hey, can you come authenticate

512
00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:39.279
<v Speaker 4>any of these casts for me? And I went in there,

513
00:26:40.200 --> 00:26:42.680
<v Speaker 4>and you're right, they're all on the wall with holes

514
00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:45.680
<v Speaker 4>drilled through them, you know where they were screwed into

515
00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:49.680
<v Speaker 4>the wall. So I saw one of the Freeman casts

516
00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:51.440
<v Speaker 4>and I asked him, hey, can we take this off

517
00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:53.359
<v Speaker 4>the wall. I just wanted to take a look at it.

518
00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:55.559
<v Speaker 4>And he pulled it off and on the back of

519
00:26:55.599 --> 00:26:57.160
<v Speaker 4>it is signed by Grover Krantz.

520
00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:01.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah, that's interesting. Interesting, that's cool. Yeah, none of

521
00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:03.200
<v Speaker 2>those are originals, though, those are all copies. The only

522
00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:05.000
<v Speaker 2>original that I'm aware it was a toll Gate cast,

523
00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:06.519
<v Speaker 2>which they also screwed the hole in the middle of.

524
00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:10.519
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, yeah, but I have a copy of the

525
00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:13.400
<v Speaker 2>toll Gate cast before it was drilled, which is kind

526
00:27:13.400 --> 00:27:14.240
<v Speaker 2>of nice, I guess.

527
00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:18.920
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, so we found some footprints there. We found

528
00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:23.920
<v Speaker 4>some other footprints up here in the Eagle Caps or

529
00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:29.279
<v Speaker 4>the Elkhorns that's right above Baker between Baker and Sumter area.

530
00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:33.119
<v Speaker 4>A lot of reports in this area. But let's see,

531
00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:36.359
<v Speaker 4>and but recently just Actually a couple of weeks ago,

532
00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:42.680
<v Speaker 4>we had a gentleman down south in just out of Unity, Organ,

533
00:27:43.680 --> 00:27:46.640
<v Speaker 4>which is a one horse town in the middle of nowhere.

534
00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:51.599
<v Speaker 4>Nothing but cows, you know, out there, but in the

535
00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:54.599
<v Speaker 4>southern port. He sent me a video that he had

536
00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:58.799
<v Speaker 4>found when he was mushroom hunting, and it was in

537
00:27:58.839 --> 00:28:02.200
<v Speaker 4>his hunting area. And what's really interesting, in last October

538
00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:06.160
<v Speaker 4>he had he this is where he hunts, I mean

539
00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:09.720
<v Speaker 4>where he puts up his blind and sits in this area.

540
00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:13.799
<v Speaker 4>He was sitting there last year in the hunting season,

541
00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:15.799
<v Speaker 4>and then he left and he came back from mushroom

542
00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:18.240
<v Speaker 4>season to the exact same spot and there was a

543
00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:25.279
<v Speaker 4>huge igloo style nest built in his spot, which he

544
00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:27.839
<v Speaker 4>kept pretty quiet, you know, he did the one other

545
00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:31.119
<v Speaker 4>people in his hunting area. And so he took a

546
00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:33.759
<v Speaker 4>video of it and sent it to me when it

547
00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:37.799
<v Speaker 4>was still green, and I thought, well, this is really cool.

548
00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:41.640
<v Speaker 4>It looks like you know the Quintidential bigfoot nests, you know.

549
00:28:43.119 --> 00:28:45.000
<v Speaker 4>So I thought, well, let's go check it out. So

550
00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:48.920
<v Speaker 4>got a hold of him. We went up there. He

551
00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:51.119
<v Speaker 4>took me down to the area. I mean, you got

552
00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:52.519
<v Speaker 4>to park on the road and you got to walk

553
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:54.680
<v Speaker 4>down a really steep hill for about a mile and

554
00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:56.599
<v Speaker 4>a half to get down to where this place is,

555
00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:00.920
<v Speaker 4>and the nest is still there. So I started looking

556
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:04.480
<v Speaker 4>at it, and every single limb that this thing is

557
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:08.319
<v Speaker 4>made out of was broken. There wasn't one saw mark anywhere.

558
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:13.519
<v Speaker 4>And they were ranging from six to you know, from

559
00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:17.880
<v Speaker 4>two to six inches around some of these limbs. And

560
00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:20.920
<v Speaker 4>this thing was woven together. I mean it was solid

561
00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:23.880
<v Speaker 4>and it looked like an igloo to me. But the

562
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:28.119
<v Speaker 4>opening wasn't at the bottom, it was about halfway up. Yeah.

563
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:32.000
<v Speaker 4>I measured everything, took a lot of pictures. We even

564
00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:34.880
<v Speaker 4>looked for biologicals of course on the inside, looked for

565
00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:39.440
<v Speaker 4>Harris with a fine toothed comb. I even have a

566
00:29:39.559 --> 00:29:42.240
<v Speaker 4>UV light that we used to see if anything glows.

567
00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:46.359
<v Speaker 4>Didn't find anything. But while we were doing the doing

568
00:29:46.359 --> 00:29:50.400
<v Speaker 4>our walkarounds and looking and filming everything, something dawned on

569
00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:54.279
<v Speaker 4>me that this thing had a fence around it. There

570
00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:59.599
<v Speaker 4>was these these big trees, some of them were you know,

571
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:04.440
<v Speaker 4>four or five feet around, had been pushed over with

572
00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:07.160
<v Speaker 4>the roots up. Some of them were snapped off. The

573
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:11.079
<v Speaker 4>smaller ones, like eight ten inch trees were snapped off,

574
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:16.759
<v Speaker 4>and there was like a fence built probably twenty feet

575
00:30:16.759 --> 00:30:20.640
<v Speaker 4>away from the nest, completely around the nest. Just these

576
00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:23.200
<v Speaker 4>trees laid down on the ground in a big circle

577
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:25.400
<v Speaker 4>around the nest. It looked like a fence.

578
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Could you date the damage in any sort of way?

579
00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:32.319
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't. I meant, of course, the nest itself we

580
00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:37.119
<v Speaker 4>knew in early spring. In April it was still green.

581
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:41.440
<v Speaker 4>I mean all the boughsand stuff were still green. They're

582
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:45.559
<v Speaker 4>not now, but so but as far as the trees go,

583
00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:49.480
<v Speaker 4>I can't really tell the date, you know, when they

584
00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:53.319
<v Speaker 4>were broken or stuff. But what was really interesting is

585
00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:59.039
<v Speaker 4>around this area then we were probably about one hundred

586
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:04.400
<v Speaker 4>feet to a river that runs year round, so there

587
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:10.559
<v Speaker 4>was water available really close. And we did find a footprint,

588
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:15.440
<v Speaker 4>an old, old footprint. I did cast it, but there's

589
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:17.920
<v Speaker 4>there's some features, but you know, not much.

590
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:23.519
<v Speaker 2>Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo.

591
00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:25.519
<v Speaker 2>Will be right back after these messages.

592
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:34.599
<v Speaker 4>After spending we spent a couple of days there and

593
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:36.960
<v Speaker 4>then we came back home and we went back the

594
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:39.759
<v Speaker 4>next weekend and spend a couple more days because it

595
00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:43.279
<v Speaker 4>was just confusing to me the way this thing was

596
00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:45.799
<v Speaker 4>set up and how strong it was. I mean you

597
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:47.920
<v Speaker 4>could walk on it, on the top of it and

598
00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:50.880
<v Speaker 4>it wouldn't fall in basically, you know it was it

599
00:31:50.920 --> 00:31:54.359
<v Speaker 4>was built sturdy. And when you've when you've got four

600
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:58.359
<v Speaker 4>to five inch logs, you know, woven together. In fact,

601
00:31:58.480 --> 00:32:01.920
<v Speaker 4>one of them we found a six inch that was

602
00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:04.720
<v Speaker 4>pulled up with the root ball still on it that

603
00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:05.759
<v Speaker 4>was woven into this.

604
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:06.920
<v Speaker 3>That's awesome.

605
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:09.319
<v Speaker 2>I think you indicated this earlier, but just for just

606
00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:12.240
<v Speaker 2>to clarify for me, how in what time period was

607
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:15.200
<v Speaker 2>this thing constructed? Because the hunter went there, went away

608
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:16.680
<v Speaker 2>for a while and came back and it was there.

609
00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:19.359
<v Speaker 2>What's that time period look like? How long was that?

610
00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:22.640
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't there in October and then we had over

611
00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:25.319
<v Speaker 4>the winter, but it was there and it was still

612
00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:26.440
<v Speaker 4>green in April.

613
00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:29.279
<v Speaker 2>In April, wow, so four months. And that is that

614
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:32.319
<v Speaker 2>area readily accessible during that time of year like in

615
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:33.640
<v Speaker 2>February or is it snowed in?

616
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:34.920
<v Speaker 4>No, it snowed in.

617
00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:39.200
<v Speaker 2>Weird, totally weird, and no one, no signs of fires

618
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:41.319
<v Speaker 2>or anything like you dis kind of the human thing

619
00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:42.039
<v Speaker 2>pretty readily.

620
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:45.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, there was no there's no you know, signs

621
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:48.039
<v Speaker 4>of camping or anything. Anywhere near there, and it was.

622
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:52.240
<v Speaker 4>And you know how how they have really steep The

623
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:55.640
<v Speaker 4>Blue Mountains are really steep, so you know you have

624
00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:58.279
<v Speaker 4>these cut banks and the roads above it. You know,

625
00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:00.319
<v Speaker 4>but like I said, it's a mile and a half

626
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:03.880
<v Speaker 4>straight down to get to do this down by the river,

627
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:06.200
<v Speaker 4>so you have to really want to go there.

628
00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:11.759
<v Speaker 2>Basically interesting, that's weird. It's totally weird. So do you

629
00:33:11.799 --> 00:33:12.960
<v Speaker 2>have your eye on that right now? Do you have

630
00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:15.799
<v Speaker 2>game cameras on it or is there anything to do

631
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:16.319
<v Speaker 2>about that?

632
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:21.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we do have game cameras still there. Other than that,

633
00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:26.599
<v Speaker 4>we've we've done. I've literally measured everything, which is kind

634
00:33:26.640 --> 00:33:29.799
<v Speaker 4>of an advantage to me being an archaeologist, so I

635
00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:33.039
<v Speaker 4>know how to document stuff. So I basically did the

636
00:33:33.480 --> 00:33:39.359
<v Speaker 4>old archaeological documentation on it, which is document everything basically.

637
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:43.640
<v Speaker 4>So we've done We've done a couple of shows on

638
00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:45.960
<v Speaker 4>on our we have a YouTube live that we do.

639
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:49.680
<v Speaker 4>And what was really interesting is between the two weeks

640
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:52.200
<v Speaker 4>we went there and I had talked about it on

641
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:55.960
<v Speaker 4>our show that week, and then I went had went

642
00:33:56.079 --> 00:33:59.920
<v Speaker 4>back the next weekend and something dawned on me. You know,

643
00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:03.480
<v Speaker 4>this thing is about five feet on the inside it's

644
00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:06.160
<v Speaker 4>five feet tall and about five feet around on the inside.

645
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:08.519
<v Speaker 4>It's fourteen feet on the outside. Because there's a lot

646
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:11.840
<v Speaker 4>of stuff piled up on this thing, I got to think,

647
00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:14.360
<v Speaker 4>and you know, this isn't big enough for like a

648
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:17.519
<v Speaker 4>full size bigfoot to lay down in. I mean, the bottoms,

649
00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:20.159
<v Speaker 4>the bottom was filled with pine boughs and stuff, you know,

650
00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:23.599
<v Speaker 4>like a human would use to make a bed. But

651
00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:28.559
<v Speaker 4>and the opening was smaller, you know, it's probably three

652
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:32.199
<v Speaker 4>three and a half feet around. I thought, this isn't

653
00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:35.400
<v Speaker 4>big enough for a bigfoot to be in, but it's

654
00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:38.920
<v Speaker 4>big enough to put a bigfoot baby in. And I

655
00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:43.440
<v Speaker 4>was wondering if this is a bassinet basically or crib some.

656
00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:46.400
<v Speaker 5>Of those in Alaska, the Native so that they build those.

657
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:49.320
<v Speaker 5>And the one I saw didn't look like auld hold

658
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:52.440
<v Speaker 5>a baby bigfoot, but that's what they said it was for.

659
00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:55.400
<v Speaker 4>Well, this one, I'm pretty sure it could because we

660
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:57.239
<v Speaker 4>I even got a picture of my wife. We took

661
00:34:57.239 --> 00:34:59.199
<v Speaker 4>a stick and had her stand over it and reached

662
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:01.079
<v Speaker 4>down in there like you was going to put a

663
00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:03.679
<v Speaker 4>baby in it. And she was a little short for

664
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:06.199
<v Speaker 4>the task, but she could have done it.

665
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:08.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that might make sense considering the time of year,

666
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:10.880
<v Speaker 2>because you know, if it's all snowed in and whatnot,

667
00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:14.519
<v Speaker 2>that structure like that would keep the inside area more

668
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:16.480
<v Speaker 2>or less free of snow, especially if you covered the

669
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:20.679
<v Speaker 2>out covered the doorway in some sort of way. Yeah,

670
00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:23.079
<v Speaker 2>and it would have to be I don't know what

671
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:25.800
<v Speaker 2>the snow cover is in this particular area, the altitude

672
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:29.280
<v Speaker 2>or anything, but something that heavy that you could you said,

673
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:31.360
<v Speaker 2>you could practically walk on it. It was so strong

674
00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:35.119
<v Speaker 2>that would probably hold a huge snow load, I imagine,

675
00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:38.039
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, who knows. That's very interesting that you're

676
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:39.400
<v Speaker 2>coming with these hypotheses.

677
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:42.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so you know, and I think you know, you

678
00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:45.599
<v Speaker 4>need someplace to put a kid if you're going to

679
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:49.159
<v Speaker 4>go out hunt or whatever. You know, just need a

680
00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:52.639
<v Speaker 4>break for a minute. So you know, I'm thinking, if

681
00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:57.760
<v Speaker 4>they're not that much different than humans, so why not

682
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:00.960
<v Speaker 4>a platepin or bassing to put them in.

683
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:03.920
<v Speaker 2>So you're continuing to do work on that. So cameras

684
00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:05.519
<v Speaker 2>are out there, now, are you going to check the

685
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:07.880
<v Speaker 2>cameras before the snows come and set up some more

686
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:10.960
<v Speaker 2>for the snowtime? Since that's when it was made.

687
00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:13.320
<v Speaker 4>Well, I think it was made early spring. It had

688
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:15.239
<v Speaker 4>to be because like I said the stuff was still

689
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:18.559
<v Speaker 4>green in April, so we might hit that pretty hard

690
00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:19.599
<v Speaker 4>early spring.

691
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:21.679
<v Speaker 3>Do you leave it on daytime only?

692
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:24.519
<v Speaker 5>Like, do you guys keep the IR flash off on

693
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:26.199
<v Speaker 5>those things your cameras?

694
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:26.679
<v Speaker 3>Do you know?

695
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:29.679
<v Speaker 4>I've I've seen so much stuff about them being able

696
00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:32.320
<v Speaker 4>to see the IR, you know, and we know that

697
00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:35.360
<v Speaker 4>there's there's animals like caribou and other things that can

698
00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:38.079
<v Speaker 4>see that IR. Yeah, we do. We We even we

699
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:42.719
<v Speaker 4>put tape over our IR on our cameras. And I

700
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:45.719
<v Speaker 4>also put the camera in basically a faradaid cage so

701
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:49.360
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't give off any EMF just in case, I

702
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:51.320
<v Speaker 4>don't know why, in case they're aliens. I don't know.

703
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:53.960
<v Speaker 4>So you know, basically, well, a.

704
00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Lot of animal animals are sensitive to electromagnetic frequencies at times,

705
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:01.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, they may they may complete demouflage hunter outfits

706
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:05.800
<v Speaker 2>now that mask the very faint EMFs that humans give off,

707
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:08.800
<v Speaker 2>or any animal gives off in our little electrical impulses

708
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:10.559
<v Speaker 2>and our nervous system and that sort of thing. They

709
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:12.079
<v Speaker 2>don't have to be aliens for that. I just want

710
00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:14.280
<v Speaker 2>to clarify that. So it's not a bad idea.

711
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:17.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So we wrap ours and a wire mesh just

712
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:20.159
<v Speaker 4>to keep the MF down basically, so.

713
00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:23.079
<v Speaker 2>You know the sort of new paragraph here. You spent

714
00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:24.800
<v Speaker 2>a lot of time in that area. I know you're

715
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:26.719
<v Speaker 2>kind of rooming around now, which of course we will

716
00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:29.800
<v Speaker 2>get to in a minute. But the Snake River isn't

717
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:31.880
<v Speaker 2>that far from you. And really the Snake River kind

718
00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:36.800
<v Speaker 2>of winds through some unlikely sasquatch habitat, just like some

719
00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:39.360
<v Speaker 2>rivers in the Southwest too. But yet the people who

720
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:43.400
<v Speaker 2>live there report Sasquatches from the river basins themselves. Have

721
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:45.079
<v Speaker 2>you got a lot of stuff or have you done

722
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:48.440
<v Speaker 2>any investigations on the Snake River and what would normally

723
00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:51.960
<v Speaker 2>be or at least seem to be unlikely sasquatch habitat

724
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:53.599
<v Speaker 2>if it wasn't for that riverbed.

725
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:57.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh, yeah, definitely. We've got actually quite a few reports.

726
00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:02.840
<v Speaker 4>Now north of us, there's a town called Halfway, Halfway, Oregon.

727
00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:08.199
<v Speaker 4>It does exist, yeah, but just north of Halfway is

728
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:12.000
<v Speaker 4>the Snake River runs through that area, and it's in

729
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:15.239
<v Speaker 4>the northern part of the Blue Mountains, but it's it's

730
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:20.639
<v Speaker 4>still very high deserty in that area. It's where there's

731
00:38:20.679 --> 00:38:24.079
<v Speaker 4>a there's Hell's Canyon. I don't know if you've heard

732
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:24.840
<v Speaker 4>of Hell's Canyon.

733
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh sure, yeah, I've gotten a couple of reports out

734
00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:27.719
<v Speaker 2>of Hell's Canyon.

735
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:31.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well that's the area that's it. It's actually Hell's Canyon.

736
00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:35.880
<v Speaker 4>So in that area we have had reports of people

737
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:40.000
<v Speaker 4>being you know, see these creatures puring at them over

738
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:43.159
<v Speaker 4>rocks and stuff up in the up in the tops

739
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:46.400
<v Speaker 4>of the hills. Well they're down in the river fishing,

740
00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:49.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, and they'll they'll see these creatures washing them

741
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:52.119
<v Speaker 4>from the top of the hill, you know, behind a rock,

742
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:55.519
<v Speaker 4>because there's not many trees up there, but there's lots

743
00:38:55.559 --> 00:39:00.599
<v Speaker 4>of rocks. It's very desert tea and the Hell Canyon

744
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:05.079
<v Speaker 4>is deep it you know, it's cut. Its the Snake

745
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:08.280
<v Speaker 4>Rivers cut you know, through there. But there's also a

746
00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:11.519
<v Speaker 4>lot of Native American legend from that area. In fact,

747
00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:16.480
<v Speaker 4>that these seven devils from the Nesbersh tribe are seven

748
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:20.239
<v Speaker 4>Bigfoot basically in their stories, and that's exactly in the

749
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:22.360
<v Speaker 4>same area. So there's a lot of history there.

750
00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:24.280
<v Speaker 2>Can you tell us about that story? I don't think

751
00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:24.960
<v Speaker 2>i've heard that one.

752
00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:30.280
<v Speaker 4>Uh, basically, yeah, it's it's from the Nesbur's strife, which

753
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:32.800
<v Speaker 4>is from the Willawa Mountains. Which is just over the

754
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:38.599
<v Speaker 4>hill from Hills Canyon. The Netsburghs have a legend and

755
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:42.639
<v Speaker 4>it goes way back into the their creation stories, and

756
00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:46.519
<v Speaker 4>this one here is where the tribe was taunted by

757
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:52.239
<v Speaker 4>these seven hairy men. Basically is the only way I

758
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:56.239
<v Speaker 4>could describe it from what you know from their language. Basically,

759
00:39:57.039 --> 00:39:59.679
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you're familiar with Native American coyotes stories,

760
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:04.840
<v Speaker 4>but the coyote to most tribal members is basically a

761
00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:08.719
<v Speaker 4>trickster but also a protector of the tribe. And in

762
00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:16.440
<v Speaker 4>this instance, the coyote tricked the seven bigfoot over into

763
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:19.960
<v Speaker 4>this area and he circled them and turned them into stone.

764
00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:23.519
<v Speaker 4>So there's seven mountaintops in this little area, and they

765
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:28.039
<v Speaker 4>called the seven devils, and so there are The story

766
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:32.599
<v Speaker 4>goes that these seven mountaintops were bigfoot at one time

767
00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:34.960
<v Speaker 4>that the coyote changed into stone.

768
00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:38.119
<v Speaker 5>You know what's funny is you're on the Hoopa Reservation

769
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:43.400
<v Speaker 5>on the Trinity River a few hundred miles from they're

770
00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:46.400
<v Speaker 5>probably four hundred miles. But they have a legend of

771
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:53.119
<v Speaker 5>seven big foots coming in and stealing seven Indian women

772
00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:56.599
<v Speaker 5>and the young young women out of the tish Tang

773
00:40:56.719 --> 00:40:59.840
<v Speaker 5>village and that's why they abandoned it and they never

774
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:00.719
<v Speaker 5>lived there again.

775
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:03.000
<v Speaker 3>That was three four hundred years ago.

776
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:05.639
<v Speaker 2>So seven seven seems to be something. There's something going

777
00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:07.199
<v Speaker 2>on with that then perhaps.

778
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:09.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, like figure that out, you guys.

779
00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's on you. Scott, You're back to us. Okay,

780
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:18.920
<v Speaker 2>stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bogo.

781
00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:28.239
<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back after these messages. Now, Scott, you're

782
00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:31.800
<v Speaker 2>you're no longer based in the Blue Mountain region. You

783
00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:34.039
<v Speaker 2>have now taken on a new chapter in your life

784
00:41:34.039 --> 00:41:37.039
<v Speaker 2>and your bigfooting research as well. I want you to

785
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:38.440
<v Speaker 2>tell us about what's going on there.

786
00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:43.000
<v Speaker 4>Well, a couple of years ago, my wife and I

787
00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:47.840
<v Speaker 4>were both teaching at high school, and of course we

788
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:50.400
<v Speaker 4>know what happened a couple of years ago, and our

789
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:54.199
<v Speaker 4>jobs kind of went away. So we were both teaching

790
00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:57.320
<v Speaker 4>in the performing arts, so that kind of went away

791
00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:00.880
<v Speaker 4>because you can't really do that online. So we decided

792
00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:06.679
<v Speaker 4>to sell our house and have some huge yard sales,

793
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:11.039
<v Speaker 4>and we bought an RV and decided just to hit

794
00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:13.920
<v Speaker 4>the road and look for Bigfoot. So we ended up

795
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:21.679
<v Speaker 4>surprisingly in Maine for a couple of reasons. My father

796
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:26.000
<v Speaker 4>was from Maine, so I had never really visited any family.

797
00:42:26.199 --> 00:42:28.519
<v Speaker 4>I grew up in Oregon, so we had I think

798
00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:30.239
<v Speaker 4>we went to Maine once when I was a kid.

799
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:32.199
<v Speaker 4>So we decided to go back and check out Maine.

800
00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:36.679
<v Speaker 4>Because my dad's a Kadian French hence the last named Violet,

801
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:42.360
<v Speaker 4>you know, for using the South they're called Cajun's. But

802
00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:46.119
<v Speaker 4>so we decided to go check out that area. So

803
00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:49.920
<v Speaker 4>we found a campground in North Maine Woods that was

804
00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:53.719
<v Speaker 4>looking for, you know, just people to you know, work

805
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:55.920
<v Speaker 4>for the summer and then you could camp there for free.

806
00:42:55.920 --> 00:42:58.920
<v Speaker 4>And then we thought, what a great opportunity just to

807
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:02.119
<v Speaker 4>hang out in a North Maine Woods. I can probably

808
00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:05.039
<v Speaker 4>meet up with some family I've never met before, and

809
00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:09.440
<v Speaker 4>we can look for Bigfoot. So we have started doing

810
00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:12.480
<v Speaker 4>a kind of a town hall meeting. I know you're

811
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:16.039
<v Speaker 4>familiar with that. So we set up one at a

812
00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:19.719
<v Speaker 4>local bar in a little town called mill Knock at Maine,

813
00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:24.920
<v Speaker 4>and I was surprised. I meant, the local newspaper did

814
00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:28.360
<v Speaker 4>a little story beforehand to kind of advertise it for us,

815
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:31.320
<v Speaker 4>and I thought, well, maybe we'll get five or six people.

816
00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:35.079
<v Speaker 4>You know, we had about forty people show up.

817
00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:37.719
<v Speaker 2>Wow for Maine. That's amazing.

818
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:42.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And so we got to you know, they were

819
00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:47.480
<v Speaker 4>bringing their pictures on their phones, and so I got

820
00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:52.880
<v Speaker 4>footprint pictures and blob squatch pictures and you know, and

821
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:57.119
<v Speaker 4>a whole bunch of stuff, stories about rocks being thrown

822
00:43:57.400 --> 00:44:00.320
<v Speaker 4>and things like that. And so we documented all that

823
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:02.840
<v Speaker 4>and we started going checking out these areas. Now, the

824
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:06.960
<v Speaker 4>North Main woods shocked me because you know, I grew

825
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:09.559
<v Speaker 4>up in eastern Oregon. Here we got forests, but they

826
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:13.920
<v Speaker 4>have forest. I meant, that forest is so thick you

827
00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:16.679
<v Speaker 4>can't see twenty feet into it. And I don't see

828
00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:19.039
<v Speaker 4>how anybody can keep from getting lost if you go

829
00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:22.559
<v Speaker 4>ten feet in the woods there. It's just so thick.

830
00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:27.519
<v Speaker 4>The trees are dense basically, so I think finding Bigfoot.

831
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:29.679
<v Speaker 4>The reason we don't have a lot of stories out

832
00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:32.960
<v Speaker 4>of that area is because basically impossible to see them.

833
00:44:33.039 --> 00:44:34.800
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't even know how these moose s

834
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:37.719
<v Speaker 4>walk through it with their horns to get through these forests.

835
00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:45.719
<v Speaker 4>But and water everywhere I'm at. Everywhere there's rivers, ponds, lakes,

836
00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:50.960
<v Speaker 4>just everywhere in Northern Main it's beautiful. So we did

837
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:54.360
<v Speaker 4>discover something because of all the water. We get a lot.

838
00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:56.719
<v Speaker 4>We had a lot of pictures of footprints and near

839
00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:00.519
<v Speaker 4>you know, river edges and stuff like that, reports that

840
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:03.960
<v Speaker 4>people seeing these down by the river or down by

841
00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:05.920
<v Speaker 4>a pond or lake. So we spend a lot of

842
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:10.920
<v Speaker 4>time camping out by lake's edge. Didn't find anything as usual,

843
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:15.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's very rare, but the area is right

844
00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:19.400
<v Speaker 4>for bigfoot pick and I guess for hunting basically because

845
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:22.760
<v Speaker 4>there's not a lot of people in the North main Woods.

846
00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:26.000
<v Speaker 4>Another thing that is really surprising to me is that

847
00:45:26.039 --> 00:45:29.960
<v Speaker 4>there's actually not much of the North main Woods which

848
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:34.800
<v Speaker 4>is public. Most of it's private land. I mean ninety

849
00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:38.199
<v Speaker 4>percent of Maine. They don't have like here we have,

850
00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:40.519
<v Speaker 4>you know, the Willaw Whitman National Forest. You know, they

851
00:45:40.519 --> 00:45:45.000
<v Speaker 4>don't have national forests in Maine. It's all private land.

852
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:49.000
<v Speaker 4>And there's hundreds and hundreds of I mean I think

853
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:53.840
<v Speaker 4>it was it was it eight hundred and ninety miles

854
00:45:53.880 --> 00:45:58.320
<v Speaker 4>of four wheeler roads through these woods. People can literally

855
00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:01.199
<v Speaker 4>go from northern Maine to central Maine on four wheelers

856
00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:05.679
<v Speaker 4>through the woods on these roads that are set up

857
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:09.920
<v Speaker 4>for snowbills or four wheelers during the summer, so We

858
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:13.599
<v Speaker 4>actually got a really good bigfoot video sent to us

859
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:17.639
<v Speaker 4>last year from the North main Woods from a guy

860
00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:20.360
<v Speaker 4>driving on a four wheeler. We went back and tried

861
00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:23.280
<v Speaker 4>to find the exact spot where he took the video,

862
00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:25.000
<v Speaker 4>and I couldn't find it. But we're going to go

863
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:27.559
<v Speaker 4>back and probably next year and see if we can

864
00:46:28.039 --> 00:46:29.000
<v Speaker 4>delve into that again.

865
00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:31.159
<v Speaker 2>Did you have the witness with you to help you

866
00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:33.840
<v Speaker 2>to help guide you to the location where you filmed it?

867
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:34.760
<v Speaker 4>We did not.

868
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's a huge blow. Yeah, so you have plans

869
00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:40.039
<v Speaker 2>to go back there and maybe learn a little bit

870
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:41.000
<v Speaker 2>more about the footage.

871
00:46:41.199 --> 00:46:45.599
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah that Yeah, we're gonna see if we can

872
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:48.440
<v Speaker 4>find that spot. I meant, I've got friends that own

873
00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:50.679
<v Speaker 4>four wheelers and we just keep driving in circles up

874
00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:51.599
<v Speaker 4>there until we find it.

875
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:52.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

876
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:55.119
<v Speaker 4>You know, I've got a general general area of where

877
00:46:55.159 --> 00:46:58.840
<v Speaker 4>it's supposed to be. So we just we've got the video.

878
00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:01.199
<v Speaker 4>And what we were doing is I had the video

879
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:03.280
<v Speaker 4>running while we're driving down the road. I'm saying, no,

880
00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:06.119
<v Speaker 4>that's not it. Nope, that's not it. You know, basically,

881
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:07.159
<v Speaker 4>is it a.

882
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Public video like on YouTube or something at this point?

883
00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:13.440
<v Speaker 4>Or yeah, it actually is. If you go to a

884
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:16.159
<v Speaker 4>Squatch America on YouTube shameless plug.

885
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:18.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we definitely want to plug your channel, but so

886
00:47:18.599 --> 00:47:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Squatch America on YouTube. Yes, and then you can see

887
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:23.360
<v Speaker 2>this video.

888
00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:26.760
<v Speaker 4>Okay, it's called a new Bigfoot Video in Maine.

889
00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh where'd you come up with that title?

890
00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:29.559
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

891
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we can see this sing a new Bigfoot

892
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Video in Maine on the Squatch America channel.

893
00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:39.599
<v Speaker 3>This is a costume of that.

894
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:42.559
<v Speaker 2>It's definitely not a blob squatch. That's the good news.

895
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:45.039
<v Speaker 4>Most of these guys drive about twenty five miles an

896
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:48.920
<v Speaker 4>hour because that's a speed limit on these four wheeler roads.

897
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:52.119
<v Speaker 4>If you take it frame by frame and look at it,

898
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:56.400
<v Speaker 4>this thing is actually moving frame by frame ahead of

899
00:47:56.800 --> 00:47:59.679
<v Speaker 4>the camera. So it had to be moving at least

900
00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:02.199
<v Speaker 4>twenty five or twenty six or twenty seven miles an

901
00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:05.719
<v Speaker 4>hour when they caught it in those frames. That was

902
00:48:05.719 --> 00:48:08.239
<v Speaker 4>the only thing that really confused me. That made me think, well,

903
00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:12.280
<v Speaker 4>maybe not. I'm hoping to find that area so we

904
00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:14.239
<v Speaker 4>can measure that tree at walk under it. That's what

905
00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:14.840
<v Speaker 4>I want to do.

906
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:18.679
<v Speaker 3>It. It looks like a costume to be like, pretty

907
00:48:18.719 --> 00:48:20.280
<v Speaker 3>blatantly almost.

908
00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:22.880
<v Speaker 2>The problem with sasquatch is that they do look like

909
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:26.360
<v Speaker 2>dudes in costumes, you know, but I don't recognize the costume,

910
00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:28.360
<v Speaker 2>which is good news because there's a lot of really

911
00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:31.880
<v Speaker 2>commonly available ones. Yeah, i'd say without further work, this

912
00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:35.000
<v Speaker 2>is ambiguous, you know, but it's something there and it

913
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:35.880
<v Speaker 2>seems to be moving.

914
00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:39.880
<v Speaker 5>What about the witness, the guy driving, did you get

915
00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:40.840
<v Speaker 5>to talk to him much?

916
00:48:41.760 --> 00:48:44.320
<v Speaker 4>We have tried several times to get a hold of

917
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:47.159
<v Speaker 4>him and he's never got back to me. So that's

918
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:51.000
<v Speaker 4>another kind of like maybe not you know, kind of deal.

919
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:54.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's also Maine. You know, people in Maine,

920
00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:57.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean are kind of weird about that stuff. Where

921
00:48:57.719 --> 00:48:59.960
<v Speaker 2>were we with that other video with that the kid

922
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:02.079
<v Speaker 2>who got it, he was thirteen or fourteen or something.

923
00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:06.519
<v Speaker 2>Was that Tyler or something like that? Or oh Turner, Turner, Turner, Maine.

924
00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever looked at that one up there?

925
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:08.199
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

926
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:09.880
<v Speaker 4>I haven't. I'll have to write that down.

927
00:49:10.360 --> 00:49:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, real interesting stuff. And it's kind of gone back

928
00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:15.519
<v Speaker 2>and forth and some investigators say it's a hoax and

929
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:19.480
<v Speaker 2>some say it's not because because the kid eventually said

930
00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:21.519
<v Speaker 2>that he hoaxed it, but he was getting bullied at

931
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:23.320
<v Speaker 2>school and he was just tired of getting bullied about it,

932
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:26.119
<v Speaker 2>so he said, fine, I hoaxed, leave me alone, but

933
00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:30.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he did. We interviewed the kid quite

934
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:34.360
<v Speaker 2>extensively on site. We interviewed his parents as well. There's

935
00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:39.039
<v Speaker 2>actually two videos from the from the area, same property

936
00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:41.079
<v Speaker 2>there were I guess the deal was that they were

937
00:49:41.079 --> 00:49:46.679
<v Speaker 2>having vocalizations almost daily for a while and they would

938
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:49.719
<v Speaker 2>see this big quote unquote guy walking on the edge

939
00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:52.840
<v Speaker 2>of their property and they filmed them one day they

940
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:55.559
<v Speaker 2>thought they had a trespasser, and then there was a

941
00:49:55.599 --> 00:49:57.719
<v Speaker 2>vocalization one day and the kid goes, I'm going to

942
00:49:57.760 --> 00:50:00.800
<v Speaker 2>record these vocalizations, and he had his video cameras, so

943
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:02.639
<v Speaker 2>he went and put it down on this road that

944
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:06.119
<v Speaker 2>right behind the property and just to record the vocalizations,

945
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:08.679
<v Speaker 2>and he happened to catch a glimpse of the thing

946
00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:10.199
<v Speaker 2>walking in front of the camera.

947
00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:12.039
<v Speaker 3>There was an iPhone.

948
00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:15.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I could be incorrect about that, because I know

949
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:17.840
<v Speaker 2>he set it down, and I can't imagine setting down

950
00:50:18.199 --> 00:50:20.159
<v Speaker 2>an iPhone like that and just leaving it. But maybe

951
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:22.639
<v Speaker 2>maybe he did, I don't know. But nonetheless, he did

952
00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:25.800
<v Speaker 2>get a He did got a second or two of

953
00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:27.440
<v Speaker 2>the thing walking in front of the camera. And the

954
00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:31.440
<v Speaker 2>vocalizations as well. We ended up doing a night investigation

955
00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:33.320
<v Speaker 2>there when we filmed our main episode, and we got

956
00:50:33.360 --> 00:50:35.960
<v Speaker 2>bigfoots that night. We got them and it was there

957
00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:38.320
<v Speaker 2>running and they followed us back to the property when

958
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:40.760
<v Speaker 2>we're doing interviews later that night and stuff. The whole

959
00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:42.840
<v Speaker 2>nine it was. It was really good and money Maker

960
00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:45.679
<v Speaker 2>got great vocalizations the night before that at the same

961
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:48.800
<v Speaker 2>property as well. I'm inclined to think it's real, So

962
00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:51.480
<v Speaker 2>if you haven't checked out the Turner main video, check

963
00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:52.400
<v Speaker 2>it out. It's pretty cool.

964
00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:54.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm convinced it's real.

965
00:50:54.920 --> 00:50:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's real too. So some people don't,

966
00:50:57.360 --> 00:51:00.760
<v Speaker 2>that's fine whatever. We'll never know for sure, but seems

967
00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:02.159
<v Speaker 2>that a lot of people who don't think it's real

968
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:05.039
<v Speaker 2>haven't really talked to the witnesses and the parents. On

969
00:51:05.079 --> 00:51:07.599
<v Speaker 2>top of it, both the parents and we were there

970
00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:09.519
<v Speaker 2>having bigfoot activity, So I don't know. I think it's

971
00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:11.679
<v Speaker 2>real based on the context and the interviews that we did,

972
00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:13.320
<v Speaker 2>so that might be a good area. Next time you're

973
00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:14.360
<v Speaker 2>up in Maine, go check.

974
00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:16.280
<v Speaker 4>Out absolutely got out on my list.

975
00:51:18.760 --> 00:51:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Do you have a place on your website or anything

976
00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Squatchamerica dot com where you can look at some of

977
00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:26.800
<v Speaker 2>the evidence and whatnot. Then some of the researchers read

978
00:51:26.840 --> 00:51:28.719
<v Speaker 2>some of the siding reports or do you just keep

979
00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:29.960
<v Speaker 2>that all internal for now?

980
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:32.760
<v Speaker 4>Right now, we're keeping it kind of internal, but we

981
00:51:33.800 --> 00:51:36.440
<v Speaker 4>do have we do talk about it on our show

982
00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:41.599
<v Speaker 4>on YouTube. But were actually we just revamped our website,

983
00:51:41.599 --> 00:51:43.880
<v Speaker 4>so we're working on a database so we can put

984
00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:47.599
<v Speaker 4>this up there. But it's coming soon. We'll put it

985
00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:48.840
<v Speaker 4>that way, okay.

986
00:51:48.840 --> 00:51:52.639
<v Speaker 2>Cool. Well, yeah, everything takes time. Everything takes time, okay, Scott, Well,

987
00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:55.199
<v Speaker 2>thank you very much for coming on Bigfoot and Beyond.

988
00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Where can people hear you? I know you've got a

989
00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:00.440
<v Speaker 2>couple speaking events coming up, and you're also you know,

990
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:02.920
<v Speaker 2>roaming around the country doing stuff. So where can people

991
00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:05.159
<v Speaker 2>run into you and learn a little bit more about

992
00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:05.719
<v Speaker 2>what you're doing.

993
00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:08.159
<v Speaker 4>Well, of course, we're going to be at the Bigfoot

994
00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:11.400
<v Speaker 4>Rendezvous and Pocatello, Idaho. You're going to be there too,

995
00:52:11.679 --> 00:52:15.360
<v Speaker 4>Cliff and doctor Jeff, we're going to be there. That's

996
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:18.519
<v Speaker 4>September twenty third and twenty fourth and Pocatello at the

997
00:52:18.519 --> 00:52:22.440
<v Speaker 4>fair Grounds. And then after that we're going to a

998
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:27.000
<v Speaker 4>little town called Elgin, Oregon on October first, there's the

999
00:52:27.079 --> 00:52:30.760
<v Speaker 4>Bigfoot Rendezvous train where you get to go on a

1000
00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:34.239
<v Speaker 4>train ride and have lunch, and we're going to be

1001
00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:38.679
<v Speaker 4>talking with you while we're going down the tracks about bigfoot,

1002
00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:42.960
<v Speaker 4>and you might see a bigfoot along the way, allegedly.

1003
00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Allegedly that there aren't they guaranteeing something.

1004
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:48.119
<v Speaker 4>They are guaranteeing you'll see at least one or two

1005
00:52:48.199 --> 00:52:53.960
<v Speaker 4>big foot along the way, or I should say alleged bigfoot.

1006
00:52:54.079 --> 00:52:56.559
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, it's probably a safer way to say it,

1007
00:52:56.599 --> 00:52:56.880
<v Speaker 2>I think.

1008
00:52:56.960 --> 00:53:02.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah. So there's that. And then on October twenty

1009
00:53:03.280 --> 00:53:05.719
<v Speaker 4>first and twenty second, we're going to be at the

1010
00:53:05.800 --> 00:53:11.519
<v Speaker 4>Yakama Valley Bigfoot con in Yakima, Washington.

1011
00:53:11.920 --> 00:53:14.840
<v Speaker 2>You get a full calendar then. And then after that wintertime,

1012
00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:15.880
<v Speaker 2>what are you going to be doing then?

1013
00:53:16.599 --> 00:53:18.360
<v Speaker 4>This winter? Are we going to be heading south to

1014
00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:23.320
<v Speaker 4>do some big footing down south in Texas and Louisiana

1015
00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:28.840
<v Speaker 4>and Alabama, in South Carolina and North Carolina. And then

1016
00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:33.079
<v Speaker 4>we're headed to Tennessee and April for the East Tennessee

1017
00:53:33.119 --> 00:53:37.719
<v Speaker 4>Bigfoot Conference there with us and Josh Gates.

1018
00:53:38.239 --> 00:53:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Wow, good, good, good, excellent.

1019
00:53:40.159 --> 00:53:42.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm jealous of everything you said, except for the Josh

1020
00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:42.800
<v Speaker 3>Gates part.

1021
00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:46.159
<v Speaker 4>Oh really okay, yes.

1022
00:53:46.280 --> 00:53:48.880
<v Speaker 3>I got you're doing what I want to do.

1023
00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:52.440
<v Speaker 5>Then just squatching follow the season's going around the country.

1024
00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:53.679
<v Speaker 3>Dude.

1025
00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, if you have room in the rig, maybe Bobo

1026
00:53:56.880 --> 00:53:58.079
<v Speaker 2>can like be your pet or.

1027
00:53:58.039 --> 00:53:58.679
<v Speaker 4>Something like that.

1028
00:53:59.039 --> 00:54:01.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I don't think on the floor too much.

1029
00:54:03.199 --> 00:54:05.320
<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, Scott, thank you very much for spending

1030
00:54:05.320 --> 00:54:07.159
<v Speaker 2>some time with us. You have you have any extra time,

1031
00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:09.920
<v Speaker 2>you can stick around and do some more stuff for

1032
00:54:09.960 --> 00:54:10.880
<v Speaker 2>our members with us.

1033
00:54:11.119 --> 00:54:12.400
<v Speaker 4>Oh absolutely cool.

1034
00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:14.119
<v Speaker 3>Cool, I got a lot of stuff I want to

1035
00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:14.519
<v Speaker 3>ask you.

1036
00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:17.159
<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, that'll be just for our members. Of course.

1037
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:20.280
<v Speaker 2>We have a Patreon account is starting in October. If

1038
00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:22.800
<v Speaker 2>you want to check that out, just go to Bigfoot

1039
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:24.920
<v Speaker 2>and Beyond podcast dot com and there'll be a nice

1040
00:54:24.920 --> 00:54:27.639
<v Speaker 2>big link for our Patreon on the web page somewhere,

1041
00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:30.360
<v Speaker 2>and is to help us a little bit pay for

1042
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:32.639
<v Speaker 2>the podcast and all that sort of stuff, and you

1043
00:54:32.639 --> 00:54:35.000
<v Speaker 2>get extra features. At least thirty forty five minutes a

1044
00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:37.119
<v Speaker 2>week is what we're planning at this point. And some

1045
00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:39.960
<v Speaker 2>of the visuals that we talk about, like the main video,

1046
00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:42.000
<v Speaker 2>for example, we can post a link to that nice

1047
00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:44.639
<v Speaker 2>and easy for people to find. So, yeah, if you

1048
00:54:44.679 --> 00:54:47.519
<v Speaker 2>want to be a member of the Beyond, Bigfoot and

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<v Speaker 2>Beyond podcast. You know, if you want to hear that

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<v Speaker 2>and have some extra content every single week, you can

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead and go to Bigfoot and Beyond podcast dot

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<v Speaker 2>com and follow links and help support us there. We

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<v Speaker 2>have shirts and hoodies and stuff like that available as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So but Scott, you don't care about that, why don't

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<v Speaker 2>we get you off the phone first. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 2>much for coming on. We really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thanks, Scott, all right, thank you. Bye.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, Squatch America is going to be coming to a

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<v Speaker 5>campground near you, so check those guys out they're in.

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<v Speaker 2>The area, and listen to their podcast on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah you know what I realized when I looked on

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<v Speaker 5>there when we were doing the interview, I punched it up.

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<v Speaker 3>I've totally checked out their page before and knew who

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<v Speaker 3>they were.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, that's just like you had met him before

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<v Speaker 2>and neated and remember it as well. So man, me too,

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<v Speaker 2>me too, But that's our life, I guess.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, Well, thanks to Scott and good luck with

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<v Speaker 5>the Squatch America project. And until next week, y'all keep

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<v Speaker 5>it squatchy.

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