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Speaker 3: Indeed not Bill Handle. Chris Maryland for Bill Today. Thanks
Speaker 3: for hanging out with me yet another day. The long
Speaker 3: national nightmare is nearly over. We'll be gone the next
Speaker 3: couple of days, but then back again next week. It's
Speaker 3: like waking up from an ap and going back and
Speaker 3: resuming that nightmare right where we left off. So that's
Speaker 3: what's happening. That's your programming note. Join me normally on
Speaker 3: Sunday afternoons. There's always a pleasure being with you, and
Speaker 3: I thoroughly enjoy every opportunity we have to hang out together.
Speaker 3: Although I'm loving Amy King's shirt because the greatest thing
Speaker 3: we got out of the pandemic was an excuse not
Speaker 3: to hang out with people. I don't want it. I'm
Speaker 3: a bit of a missing throat that way, not really
Speaker 3: a gorphobic, but I really if I if I just
Speaker 3: hang out at home, I'm fine with that. I realized
Speaker 3: the older I get, the more hermit like I become,
Speaker 3: and I'm totally okay with it. I'm fine with just
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna go home and I'm just not gonna
Speaker 3: spend time with people because generally speaking, people suck. Individual people, okay,
Speaker 3: but people in a group. She's just I got no reason.
Speaker 3: There's just no reason. A few years back, you know,
Speaker 3: I've never been to Disneyland. What never. I don't do it. No,
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 4: The crowd.
Speaker 3: Like it. My wife is working at a big lab
Speaker 3: that was in San Diego years ago, and I realized
Speaker 3: I started to develop this sort of social anxiety. It's
Speaker 3: not it's not bad, but I'll have these moments and
Speaker 3: we're at this we were at the museums there in
Speaker 3: Bilbo Park, and I have these moments where if there's
Speaker 3: too many people and there's too much chaos going on
Speaker 3: and it's a confined space, and we were doing this
Speaker 3: big Christmas party. They planned it at the museums at
Speaker 3: Balboa Park, so there were like a thousand people packed
Speaker 3: into this place, and there were kids running everywhere, and
Speaker 3: there were people going in all different directions and there
Speaker 3: was no real order to it, and my mind couldn't
Speaker 3: process it, and I started having this panic attack and
Speaker 3: I just got this whole the you hear people talking
Speaker 3: about it. If you haven't experienced before, it's terrible. Everything
Speaker 3: started to get really narrow, right, everything got really tunneled,
Speaker 3: and I just said, I need to I need to
Speaker 3: just find a corner and stand in it for a while.
Speaker 3: And he just had my back against the wall where
Speaker 3: I feel safe. And my wife said, why are you
Speaker 3: ruining my Christmas party? You're doing this to me? Why
Speaker 3: would you do this?
Speaker 1: Ah?
Speaker 3: The empathy, she well, she had never experienced it, she
Speaker 3: didn't know anything. And I said, I said, I don't
Speaker 3: know what's happening right now, but I'm freaking out. I'm
Speaker 3: completely freaking out. And it's only happened to me a
Speaker 3: few times. That was the first time. It was only
Speaker 3: a couple of years later that my wife had a
Speaker 3: genuine panic attack. You know the ones where all of
Speaker 3: a sudden you think you're having a heart attack, which
Speaker 3: is horrible feeling.
Speaker 4: I had one of those during the pandemic, did you Yeah.
Speaker 3: How horrible is that? Is it? The worst feeling or what?
Speaker 5: It was awful and we had to I called paramedics
Speaker 5: and everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was doing work. I was working
Speaker 3: in Arizona. She was still living in San Diego, and
Speaker 3: then I was driving back and forth on the weekend,
Speaker 3: so she was there alone and I get this phone
Speaker 3: call that says I'm waiting for the ambulance, and I went,
Speaker 3: you're waiting for what are you? What's going on? She said,
Speaker 3: I think I'm having a heart attack. So of course
Speaker 3: I'm freaking out, and I'm grabbing everything I can to
Speaker 3: throw it in a bag and get ready to take off,
Speaker 3: and I'm calling my boss and I'm saying, my wife's
Speaker 3: having a heart attack. I have to go. And then
Speaker 3: she called back later and she said, it's not a
Speaker 3: heart attack. They think it was a panic attack. And
Speaker 3: it was my first experience with people that have experienced
Speaker 3: panic attacks. What a horrible, horrible thing to go through.
Speaker 3: And she's had a few sins. But of course, you
Speaker 3: once you experience it once, you have kind of an
Speaker 3: idea when it starts coming, and you know what that
Speaker 3: feeling is, and that in itself feels like a little
Speaker 3: bit of control, not a lot, but at least you
Speaker 3: kind of know what's happening to your body. What a
Speaker 3: terrible feeling. So when when the pandemic hit, how great
Speaker 3: was that? Oh? I didn't have to spend time with people.
Speaker 3: I didn't have to go into crowded spaces.
Speaker 4: There was no crowded spaces.
Speaker 3: Nine. Oh, I felt me during the pandemic. I was
Speaker 3: like the only guy. I loved it.
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, that's what one.
Speaker 5: Remember when they had the you know, you had empty
Speaker 5: seats next to you.
Speaker 3: Yes, I had empty planes next to me. I think
Speaker 3: I was on a flight and I think there were
Speaker 3: six people on my flight. You remember the old days
Speaker 3: when you could take a red eye and there'd only
Speaker 3: be just a handful of people in the flight. Now
Speaker 3: they do a much better job of booking them and
Speaker 3: getting them all full and making sure every seat is taken.
Speaker 3: But it took me back to those days, you know,
Speaker 3: twenty plus years prior, when you could get onto a
Speaker 3: late night flight and there was nobody else on there.
Speaker 3: But yeah, oh boy, was that something. And then we'll
Speaker 3: not have any beverage service because we don't.
Speaker 4: Want you to kill Oh that's right, they didn't know.
Speaker 4: You didn't get anything on the planes.
Speaker 3: No, it's great. Why we're talking about this, go ahead.
Speaker 5: Do you know why we're talking pandemic stuff today? Well,
Speaker 5: I know why I'm wearing the sweatshirt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're at kind of an anniversary, aren't we.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the five year anniversary of the lockdown.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah.
Speaker 4: Governor Newsom announced it on March nineteenth.
Speaker 3: Or what I told the good old days. Oh so great,
Speaker 3: so so great.
Speaker 5: And as I started lifting the restrictions, you were like, no, no,
Speaker 5: that's what.
Speaker 3: I Yeah, that's that's how I was. And then it
Speaker 3: just so happened. It coincided. My wife and I had
Speaker 3: just I was I lost my full time gig and
Speaker 3: I was doing fill in work all over the place,
Speaker 3: and we decided, let's get let's strip everything down and
Speaker 3: pay off all of our debt. So we moved into
Speaker 3: a fifth wheel camper and parked it at my parents' place,
Speaker 3: which is deep in the woods in northern Michigan. And
Speaker 3: we lived in that for two years. Michigan winters on
Speaker 3: propane in a camper. It was terrible. It was the
Speaker 3: most miserable thing. We paid off all of our credit
Speaker 3: card debt, we paid off all of the cars, we
Speaker 3: paid off all of the student loans, we paid off.
Speaker 3: Everything got back to zero. And since then we've you know,
Speaker 3: obviously I do a little more work, and her her
Speaker 3: business is going pretty well, so we've built things up.
Speaker 3: We got ourselves in a nice little cottage on the
Speaker 3: lake there, and now she spent summers there and I
Speaker 3: spent summer here. So but it got us ahead of things.
Speaker 3: So it just so happened to coincide with the pandemic
Speaker 3: that we moved into this thing. So we were already
Speaker 3: sort of social distancing. But what was crazy is in
Speaker 3: this really remote rural area, short lots fewer people on
Speaker 3: the roads. But then you started to see more and
Speaker 3: more people. And I noticed this because I did do,
Speaker 3: like I said, a little bit of travel. So I'd
Speaker 3: travel from this remote area into some cities where I
Speaker 3: was doing some work, and the cities streets are still
Speaker 3: empty freeways, you know how, we got to eight lanes
Speaker 3: wide on a freeway and there's hardly anybody on it.
Speaker 3: And yet if you went back to my tiny little town,
Speaker 3: you'd have a two lane road and there'd be traffic.
Speaker 3: So the rural areas really disregarded a lot of the
Speaker 3: advice that the more urban areas definitely leaned into. And
Speaker 3: I think part of that has to do with when
Speaker 3: you live in a rural area. First of all, there's
Speaker 3: an inherent distrust of government, I think in rural areas.
Speaker 3: But also you are You're just naturally socially distanced. If
Speaker 3: you walk out of your front door, it's not like
Speaker 3: you're walking into an apartment hallway. You're walking out into acreage,
Speaker 3: you know. So it was just an interesting dichotomy between
Speaker 3: those two perspectives. Okay, speaking of social distancing, imagine if
Speaker 3: you could be two hundred and fifty miles away from
Speaker 3: all of humanity. Oh, dear Lord, please does that sound glorious?
Speaker 3: Stuck in space?
Speaker 1: No more?
Speaker 3: The astronauts are back. I just heard you talking with
Speaker 3: Jim Ryan about this in the wake up call. Amy King,
Speaker 3: and you guys pointed out what I thought was the
Speaker 3: coolest aspect of the whole thing. One. I loved watching
Speaker 3: the capsule come down. I love that they were able
Speaker 3: to get a camera on it from I think it
Speaker 3: was still eight miles high or something like that, so
Speaker 3: you could actually see some of the heat coming off
Speaker 3: the shields as it was re entering the atmosphere. It
Speaker 3: was an amazing shot. And finally the the parachutes deployed,
Speaker 3: it splashed down in the Atlantic and then was surrounded
Speaker 3: by dolphins.
Speaker 5: Was that just the most like weird, amazing thing ever?
Speaker 3: And I think it's because we love dolphins. Now we go,
Speaker 3: that's cool. The wildlife came to check them out. They
Speaker 3: were greeted by dolphins. Had it been great white sharks,
Speaker 3: we probably have a different take on the whole thing.
Speaker 3: We go, oh, look, the wildlife came. But if it
Speaker 3: had been great white sharks, we go, oh, they're going
Speaker 3: to be eaten. They survived the re entry and now
Speaker 3: they're chumped.
Speaker 4: That would have been end.
Speaker 3: No. No, Who do you think was the most relieved
Speaker 3: when that capsule came back and splashed down and everybody
Speaker 3: was safe. Had to have been Elon Musk. This guy
Speaker 3: must have been sweating bullets because he's had a couple
Speaker 3: of couple of rockets exploded last week. Right, He's had
Speaker 3: let's say, a not great couple of weeks on the market.
Speaker 3: Tesla's dropping like a rock. People are attacking his cars
Speaker 3: at showrooms across the country, including what they're calling a
Speaker 3: terrorist attack, and if we want to go that far,
Speaker 3: but it was a certain degree of vandalism in Las Vegas.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw those cars that were
Speaker 3: lit on fire. It was terrible. He's not.
Speaker 4: That's a certain degree of vandalism.
Speaker 3: Certain degree certain I don't know if I'm going to
Speaker 3: go so far to say terrorism, but it's certainly vandalism.
Speaker 3: So all of these he's not had a great couple
Speaker 3: of weeks, so he must have been pretty relieved. A
Speaker 3: couple of notes, quick notes on this. When the astronauts
Speaker 3: went into space last June, it was the Gulf of
Speaker 3: Mexico when they splashed down. It was the Gulf of
Speaker 3: America when they went into space in June of last year.
Speaker 3: Elon Musk had thirteen kids. When they splashed down. Musk
Speaker 3: added another one. So the world changes, the world changes,
Speaker 3: see you, Amy.
Speaker 5: There may be a peace deal in the works, but
Speaker 5: it hasn't stopped the fighting. Ukraine and Russia exchanged aerial
Speaker 5: assaults overnight. That's a nice way of saying they're bombing
Speaker 5: each other hours after the Kremlin agreed to temporarily halt
Speaker 5: attacks on energy infrastructure targets. It stops short of signing
Speaker 5: off on the broader cease fire that Ukraine has agreed
Speaker 5: to that was broker by the US residents. Putin and
Speaker 5: Trump talked on the phone for a couple hours yesterday,
Speaker 5: Putin did not agree to that thirty day truce that
Speaker 5: Trump is endorsing. Zelenski says, while they support a pause
Speaker 5: on attacks on the energy targets, he wants to know
Speaker 5: the details of the proposal before he signs off on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's understandable. A lot of people are
Speaker 3: hearkening this to the Yalta diferences. You remember this. This
Speaker 3: is when the United States we had Churchill was there,
Speaker 3: Roosevelt was there, and Stalin was there, and they all
Speaker 3: got together world War two and they decided who got what?
Speaker 3: In in Germany, who's what's communist, what's going to be capitalist?
Speaker 3: Who gets what? And they just went through and they
Speaker 3: decided what the other country would do. It's a similar
Speaker 3: situation here where it sounds like we're getting together with
Speaker 3: Putin and were saying, Pitton, what do you want? You
Speaker 3: want access? You want those ports? That's cool, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: need some minerals. Looks like we're gonna get everything we
Speaker 3: want out of this and who gets left out start
Speaker 3: looked like Zelensky might be the guy that gets hosed
Speaker 3: on some of this stuff, which is why Zelensky doesn't
Speaker 3: want to sign off on anything because he says, wait
Speaker 3: a minute, you guys are negotiating a peace deal without
Speaker 3: one of the participants in the war. Uh, and your
Speaker 3: negotiations are what of my stuff are you taking? It's
Speaker 3: not at all unlike I have three kids. The two
Speaker 3: oldest would sometimes pick on their youngest brother, and the
Speaker 3: youngest brother would start crying, and then the two oldest
Speaker 3: would then go into his room and they would start
Speaker 3: taking his toys and they would decide who got what toy,
Speaker 3: and the youngest kept saying, why am I losing out
Speaker 3: on all my toys? I didn't do anything, and the
Speaker 3: youngest would say, those are my toys. You can't take them,
Speaker 3: and the two oldest would say, shut up, there are
Speaker 3: toys now. That's basically what we're seeing going on in Ukraine.
Speaker 3: We're just divving up the little brother's toys. So sorry, Zelensky.
Speaker 3: Zelensky is supposed to speak with Trump today and he says,
Speaker 3: I will contact President Trump. We will discuss the details
Speaker 3: the next step. He says, I believe everything was going
Speaker 3: in the right direction, although not for Russia, which is
Speaker 3: unhappy when something goes right. So it does sound like
Speaker 3: he is a bit more optimistic. Of course, he wants
Speaker 3: a ceasefire. He doesn't want to give up any territory
Speaker 3: at all. They lost a lot of leverage because they
Speaker 3: had they had a slight incursion in the north of
Speaker 3: Ukraine into Russian territory, but then the Russians just recently
Speaker 3: beat them back, and so they lost some of their leverage.
Speaker 3: I don't Zelenski's fighting for his life. The people of
Speaker 3: Ukraine are fighting for their lives for and I don't
Speaker 3: mean that. I mean that patriotically. They're not. Of course,
Speaker 3: when you fight in war, you're fighting for your life,
Speaker 3: but in this case they're fighting for their entire identity.
Speaker 3: And Russia doesn't seem to care. And Putin is willing
Speaker 3: to put people into the meat grinder. He says, was
Speaker 3: just grab some more people, throw them into the meat grinder.
Speaker 3: That's fine, North Korea. You want to bring some people over,
Speaker 3: We'll throw them in our meat grinder too. He doesn't care.
Speaker 3: And this is Russia's history when it comes to war too.
Speaker 3: It's simply to outman and overpower other countries. They have
Speaker 3: in the past taken significant losses, but that's sort of
Speaker 3: their whole strategy. We're just going to outlast them. Even
Speaker 3: if they take out one and a half. People want
Speaker 3: to have soldiers for each one that we take out.
Speaker 3: We have so many. That's how they do it. They
Speaker 3: grind other countries down. That's what they've done throughout the
Speaker 3: throughout history. So that is it's nothing new. And now
Speaker 3: Putin looks like he's gonna get what he wants because
Speaker 3: he's got he's got an ally in the White House. Now,
Speaker 3: Amy King, that's all I gotta say about that.
Speaker 5: Okay, fine, then let's move on. You got nothing else,
Speaker 5: Scotis speaks out. Supreme Court Justice John Roberts did something
Speaker 5: that the justices don't normally do, and that was that
Speaker 5: he had something to say about Trump's call to impeach
Speaker 5: the judge who ruled against his deportation plans. Trump posted
Speaker 5: on social media that the judge who ordered that plane
Speaker 5: to turn around and bring the Trende or Ragua guys
Speaker 5: back should be impeached, and Justice Roberts said, for more
Speaker 5: than two centuries, it's been established that impeachment is not
Speaker 5: an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision. He
Speaker 5: said the normal appellate review process exists for that purpose.
Speaker 3: So really interesting that Roberts is taking a stand here
Speaker 3: because he didn't have to. Roberts is the head of
Speaker 3: the judiciary, not just the chief of the Supreme Court,
Speaker 3: Supreme Court being on top of the entire branch, and
Speaker 3: he's the Chief Justice. He's basically if you think of Congress,
Speaker 3: and you've got the Speaker of the House, and you've
Speaker 3: got the Senate Majority leader as sort of the leaders
Speaker 3: of the legislative branch. Of course, the President the leader
Speaker 3: of the executive branch. The Supreme Court sits atop the
Speaker 3: judicial branch, with Roberts being the Chief Justice, whose voices,
Speaker 3: of course amplified louder than anyone else's. He didn't have
Speaker 3: to say anything, so for him to stand up and
Speaker 3: speak out is a little bit peculiar. We're going to
Speaker 3: dive more into this a little bit later on of
Speaker 3: the show. It's a bit peculiar, but it's not unheard of.
Speaker 3: Roberts has had he said things in the past, and
Speaker 3: he has even you remember they ruled for Citizens United
Speaker 3: when Obama was still in office, and Obama brought that up,
Speaker 3: I believe it was at a State of the Union
Speaker 3: address and he made some swipe in the joint session
Speaker 3: at the Supreme Court. And you'll recall that Robert's sort
Speaker 3: of mouthed not true, not true. So he's not exactly
Speaker 3: a wallflower when it comes to what's going on outside
Speaker 3: of the Supreme Court, especially if it impacts the judiciary.
Speaker 3: And what I think is going to be very interesting
Speaker 3: about Roberts speaking out is does that embolden any other
Speaker 3: Republicans who may have some reservations about President Trump sort
Speaker 3: of ignoring much of the judges orders when it comes
Speaker 3: to the the deportation orders. Again, we'll talk more about this. Oh,
Speaker 3: I think we've got this plan in the seven o'clock
Speaker 3: hours sometimes, so we'll tackle it in there a little
Speaker 3: more in depth as well. Is it back to me now, Amy? Oh?
Speaker 3: Another good reason not to ride public transit? Yeah. Ian
Speaker 3: police departments are for a man who allegedly stabbed someone
Speaker 3: at the Metro train station near Universal Studios last night
Speaker 3: a little after eight o'clock in the B Line. I
Speaker 3: got to the Universal Studio City Metro platform. The victim
Speaker 3: they say was in stable conditions and Metro this is
Speaker 3: my favorite Metro extents. It's wishes for a quick recovery
Speaker 3: to the victim. Thanks the LA Police Department of Fire
Speaker 3: Departments for their prompt response thoughts and prayers. Sorry you
Speaker 3: got stabbed suspect right away before officers arrive, Please say
Speaker 3: you the man was wearing a black jacket and black
Speaker 3: Adidas joggers. All right, So two things. Stay away from
Speaker 3: public transit and also stay away from people who wear
Speaker 3: jogging suits in public. Fair Fair just never been a
Speaker 3: fan of mass transit. I know, I know it's essential
Speaker 3: to a city like ours, I get it. But if
Speaker 3: it's so essential, then why are there's so many cars there?
Speaker 3: Why does will have a job telling us where all
Speaker 3: the traffic is backed up? If we're all using mass transit, right,
Speaker 3: we're not. The number of people that use mass transit
Speaker 3: percentage wise, is so minuscule that all you're doing is
Speaker 3: just risking your life. When you go there, you're going
Speaker 3: to take mass transit and you're going to be stabbed,
Speaker 3: and then you're going to be urinated on, and you're
Speaker 3: going to sit in somebody else's poop. That's what happens.
Speaker 3: That's the only thing that happens. Better off to just
Speaker 3: sit in traffic in your own poop.
Speaker 5: Well, this guy has something and it's not trunk derangement syndrome.
Speaker 5: There's a state senator in Minnesota. It's Republican Justin Icorn.
Speaker 5: He was one of the authors of a bill seeking
Speaker 5: to define Trump derangement syndrome as a mental as a
Speaker 5: mental illness. Well, he's been arrested for soliciting a minor
Speaker 5: for prostitution. Detectives say they communicated with the senator over
Speaker 5: the phone and say Icorn believed he was talking to
Speaker 5: a sixteen year old girl, but no, it was police
Speaker 5: and they busted him.
Speaker 3: Oh now we've got pedophile deranged syndrome. Amy King just
Speaker 3: feeding into the nonsense. Can't believe you and your prejudices
Speaker 3: against kitty diddlers. How dare you define that as a
Speaker 3: mental illness? This person was leaning so far into MAGA
Speaker 3: that they wanted to say that anyone who didn't love
Speaker 3: the president was mentally ill. Of course, this has met
Speaker 3: with all kinds of cheers from a number of people
Speaker 3: who have continued to push that liberalism is a mental
Speaker 3: illness narrative for a long time. Of Course, political affiliation
Speaker 3: is not a mental illness. We know that, except some
Speaker 3: people are so deranged by their own tribalism that they
Speaker 3: believe anyone who doesn't see it their way. There's no
Speaker 3: other explanation than to say their brains don't work properly.
Speaker 3: I've seen this play out. Let's take this out of
Speaker 3: the world of politics. I've seen this play out elsewhere
Speaker 3: behind the scenes. A lot of people don't realize this.
Speaker 3: But behind the scenes, Amy King and producer Ann don't
Speaker 3: share a studio together. And part of the reason is
Speaker 3: Ann is a Podres fan, and of course Amy is
Speaker 3: a Dodgers fan. And I've I've spoken with it's spoken
Speaker 3: with Amy many times about this, and I say, Hey,
Speaker 3: what's going on with Anne? And she says an stick
Speaker 3: in the head, And of course I'm actually I'm I'm
Speaker 3: a Padres leaning kind of guy. But I don't really
Speaker 3: say that to Amy because I don't want her to
Speaker 3: think ill of me. So I'm sort of a closet
Speaker 3: Podres fan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no escaping it here. I'm in her face.
Speaker 4: But then they always.
Speaker 3: Arrangement, so it is I do. Fun fact, I crossed
Speaker 3: off a bucket list item at Petco Park. I got
Speaker 3: to throw out the first pitch at a game.
Speaker 5: Really, Yeah, that was amazing.
Speaker 3: And the funny thing is the radio station. You know,
Speaker 3: they would try to find people. And I've worked at
Speaker 3: other places where they do this too, And so the
Speaker 3: teams are always trying to find who's gonna be the
Speaker 3: next person that we're gonna have out there. Sometimes it's
Speaker 3: somebody from first responders make a wish or something like that.
Speaker 3: And then when they don't have anybody else, then they
Speaker 3: call the radio station and they say, you guys, got
Speaker 3: anybody you want to give it away? Like a dairy
Speaker 3: queen coupon and a first pitch kind of thing. And
Speaker 3: so they came to me and they said, do you
Speaker 3: want to do this? And I my heart dropped and
Speaker 3: I went, oh my god, yes, that's a bucket lest item.
Speaker 3: Of course I want to throw out a first pitch
Speaker 3: in a Major League Baseball game. Yes, And everyone around
Speaker 3: the station was like, Okay, that's fine, we've all done it. Okay,
Speaker 3: well you're cool. Dream come true for me.
Speaker 4: I think it's very cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So somehow we just went from from a Minnesota
Speaker 3: state senator who just got Chris Hansen to I threw
Speaker 3: out a first pitch at a Padre's game. See how
Speaker 3: that works? I like it? Yep. That's called stream of
Speaker 3: consciousness radio. All right? How about this? A lawsuit? Last year,
Speaker 3: Card and Grove is suing six Flags Magic Mountain alleging
Speaker 3: their twenty two year old son suffered traumatic and fatal
Speaker 3: breeding injury sustained while riding one of the themes the
Speaker 3: theme park. Excuse me, most infamous and popular roller coasters
Speaker 3: X two. Anybody here bent on X two? Can you
Speaker 3: describe it in any way, shape or form? All right,
Speaker 3: that's just how famous it is. A Christopher Hawley is
Speaker 3: a recent graduate of San Diego State with his younger
Speaker 3: brother Alex. They were at six Flags Magic Mountain. The
Speaker 3: trio climbed aboard X two. His brother and cousins sat
Speaker 3: together right behind Christopher, who was in a row all
Speaker 3: by himself. It's a fourth dimension coaster designed with rotating
Speaker 3: seats that move independently as the ride progresses. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: throw up just thinking about it. It has a two
Speaker 3: hundred and fifteen foot drop suddenly flips and rotate and rotates,
Speaker 3: all while reaching speeds of up to seventy six miles
Speaker 3: an hour. Who designs this? This is an absolute sadist engineer.
Speaker 3: They got near the end of the ride, the coaster
Speaker 3: suddenly and abruptly and violently jolted to a halt. It
Speaker 3: jarred the twenty two year old and the other two
Speaker 3: boys in their seats. One dude was holding out of
Speaker 3: the rail for stability, and then when they came to
Speaker 3: his aid after he left the ride, he mumbled that
Speaker 3: his head hurt. Then he slumped over to his side
Speaker 3: and lost consciousness. His parents said that he was an
Speaker 3: excellent health. He was taking to Henry Mayo Newall Hospital
Speaker 3: in Valencia. CT scan showed that he suffered catastrophic right
Speaker 3: subdural hematoma resulting from the roller coaster, which means he
Speaker 3: had a brain bleed and then he died. They say
Speaker 3: it's all because that roller coaster came to a stop.
Speaker 3: Another good reason, aside from the crowds and the exorbitant expenses,
Speaker 3: to never go to theme parks. I know I'm alone
Speaker 3: on that one. You are, I know I do like
Speaker 3: a roller coaster. I just don't like waiting in line
Speaker 3: for it. All right, you want to pause, now you
Speaker 3: want to do one more?
Speaker 4: Let's do one more?
Speaker 5: Is nothing sacred testing on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.
Speaker 5: So Galgadat is getting her star in the Hollywood Walk
Speaker 5: of Fame yesterday and protesters, both pro Palestinian and pro
Speaker 5: Israeli turned out for it. They got in each other's faces.
Speaker 5: One ripped a flag away from the opposing group. That
Speaker 5: led to some violence. Police made a number of arrests.
Speaker 5: The ceremony for the Wonder Woman star was delayed by
Speaker 5: about fifteen minutes. Of course, she is Israeli and has
Speaker 5: spoken out in support of what's happening in Israel in
Speaker 5: the war with Hamas, and she's been unapologetic about that.
Speaker 3: This is where to give credit. This is where Bill
Speaker 3: really shines when he's able to talk about these things.
Speaker 3: But here's my hot take on this. Good for her.
Speaker 3: I love Galgadot one of my favorites, and I know
Speaker 3: that's not always a popular opinion, but I think she's fantastic.
Speaker 2: She is.
Speaker 3: I think she's a lovely person. To everything I've ever
Speaker 3: seen about her. She's proud to be Jewish, she's proud
Speaker 3: to be in ISRAELI all that stuff, No problem with
Speaker 3: it at all, none. But then she gets protested because
Speaker 3: of it. And that's because there's a war going on
Speaker 3: in Israel, and there's bombings going on Gaza Strip and
Speaker 3: everything that we already know about. What I think is
Speaker 3: remarkable about this is had had there been someone who
Speaker 3: is Palestinian that was given a star, would there be
Speaker 3: Israelis or Jewish people protesting a Palestinian getting a star
Speaker 3: on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. My guess is no.
Speaker 3: I don't know that definitively, but my guess is no,
Speaker 3: which indicates that right now, one of the prevailing opinions
Speaker 3: is that the Palestinian people are the oppressed and the
Speaker 3: Jews in this case are the oppressors. I'm not saying
Speaker 3: it's right or wrong. I'm saying that's what the perception
Speaker 3: is right now, which is interesting because throughout all of
Speaker 3: human history, the Jews have been the oppressed, not the oppressors.
Speaker 3: So we have flipped the script. In the last I
Speaker 3: don't know, handful of decades, whatever it is, we've completely
Speaker 3: flipped the script. And now you've got no, you're an oppressor. No,
Speaker 3: I've always been oppressed, and I'm proud to be a
Speaker 3: person who's fought and overcome oppression. And they've got the
Speaker 3: other side that says you overcame it only to oppress
Speaker 3: other people. And the cycle continues and round and round,
Speaker 3: and round they go. We've got a judge in Wisconsin
Speaker 3: that is upsetting a number of people by defending free speech.
Speaker 3: Who knew that would happen. So imagine that you've run
Speaker 3: across a guy who's got the kitty porn. My god,
Speaker 3: what a terrible thing. You can't have kitty porn. Look
Speaker 3: at the victims. You've victimized these children, except it's AI
Speaker 3: generated kitty porn. So the guy was charged. He's forty
Speaker 3: two years old, charged with four federal criminal counts related
Speaker 3: to alleged production, distribution, and possession of AI generated images
Speaker 3: of minors engaging in sexually explicit conduct. The case that
Speaker 3: could set major implications for how AI generated porn child
Speaker 3: porn excuse me is legally handled. You recall that we've
Speaker 3: had an issue in California with some schools where people
Speaker 3: were high school kids were taking the faces of their
Speaker 3: classmates and then using AI to undress them. Of course,
Speaker 3: we don't know if it was accurate or not. It
Speaker 3: AI's interpretation based on full body photos, and what AI
Speaker 3: could ascertain from those photos is so what somebody's shape
Speaker 3: might be like. The difference is, of course, is that
Speaker 3: if you're using a photo of an actual person, and
Speaker 3: then you're generating it, you are victimizing that individual. However,
Speaker 3: what if the person doesn't exist at all, and you've
Speaker 3: seen the AI generated photos of people and they look
Speaker 3: incredibly realistic. I'm not talking about porn photos ConA. I'm
Speaker 3: talking about just general pictures of people. Who is this
Speaker 3: person real or is this AI generated? Now there are
Speaker 3: some tip offs to it. Skin might be too perfect,
Speaker 3: they might have twelve fingers. All these things are clues.
Speaker 3: But AI is getting better and better and better. And
Speaker 3: so what if you have somebody who has AI generated
Speaker 3: picture of children in sexually explicit scenarios? Generally we say
Speaker 3: not a great idea. Is it illegal to draw and
Speaker 3: under if you are a very good artist, could you
Speaker 3: draw an underage child in a sexually explicit position? Is
Speaker 3: that illegal? Well, we'd say, well, it's distasteful, but it's
Speaker 3: art and would be protected under the First Amendment because
Speaker 3: that person created it, and so that would be protected.
Speaker 3: So how is that different than AI. Well, the person
Speaker 3: didn't necessarily draw it out. AI did, But does the
Speaker 3: person have the First Amendment right to witness it? The
Speaker 3: guy allegedly used text to text to image generative artificial
Speaker 3: intelligence in a model called stable diffusion created thousands of
Speaker 3: realistic images of prepubescent miners. In an argument to dismiss
Speaker 3: the possession charges, the man said that he has the
Speaker 3: right to possess and produce obscene material in his own home.
Speaker 3: He cited a previous Supreme Court ruling that prohibited cribalt
Speaker 3: that prohibited, excuse me, criminalizing obscene materials at the home.
Speaker 3: So what happens to this guy? The case will go on.
Speaker 3: The judge in Wisconsin allowed three of the charges to
Speaker 3: move forward through one charge out. The judge argued that
Speaker 3: the First Amendment protects the possession of virtual child pornography
Speaker 3: and one in one's home. Prosecutors have appealed that decision.
Speaker 3: So it will be very interesting as we're seeing a
Speaker 3: twenty first century challenge to free speech limitations. Amy, you
Speaker 3: got one more?
Speaker 4: Yep?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 5: So did you CLA just sit back and watch? Jewish
Speaker 5: students and a faculty member have claimed that UCLA enabled
Speaker 5: anti Semitic actions during the pro Palestinian campus encampment last spring,
Speaker 5: in the protests where they blocked access to certain students
Speaker 5: and that kind of thing. Well, on Monday, the Trump
Speaker 5: administration got into it when the Department of Justice filed
Speaker 5: court documents supporting the right of the students and faculty
Speaker 5: to sue for discrimination and accused UCLA of trying to
Speaker 5: evade its responsibility for alleged anti Semitism on campus.
Speaker 3: M All right, So this puts a real spotlight on
Speaker 3: the protests. As we know, you have the right to protest.
Speaker 3: Even if the majority of people don't like what you
Speaker 3: have to say, you have a right to say it.
Speaker 3: We know this. We know this because we've had it
Speaker 3: reinforced time and time again the old and it's now
Speaker 3: been overturned, but not overturned, but it's been clarified. Remember
Speaker 3: the people say, you can't you'll fire in a crowded
Speaker 3: movie theater, Well you can.
Speaker 4: You can, Yeah, you can. I thought you really couldn't.
Speaker 3: No, They they limited the restrictions to say that it
Speaker 3: has to be inciting imminent danger and so you have
Speaker 3: to have a reasonable belief that what you're about to
Speaker 3: do is going to incite people and put people in danger.
Speaker 3: So they clarified that years later. But the original case,
Speaker 3: you can't yell fire in a crowded movie theater was
Speaker 3: a real test and the limitations of the free speech.
Speaker 3: And I don't mean to trample too much into handles
Speaker 3: world here, but I read a lot of Twitter, so
Speaker 3: I know law very very well better than most lawyers.
Speaker 3: In fact, if you just spend a lot of time
Speaker 3: on Twitter, you're generally smarter than everybody in the world,
Speaker 3: and your viewpoints will be reinforced. But here's what I
Speaker 3: learned getting smarter on Twitter. You is that the original
Speaker 3: case where they said you can't yell fire in a
Speaker 3: crowded movie theater, which of course was later clarified during
Speaker 3: the Brandenburg case. That was all about a gentleman who
Speaker 3: was handing out leaflets promoting socialism, and we said, well,
Speaker 3: you can't do that. You can't and handout leaflets promoting socialism.
Speaker 3: We're fighting socialists. This is early in the twentieth century.
Speaker 3: We're fighting socialists, and you're out there promoting something that
Speaker 3: is abhorrent. We as a country will not stand for socialism.
Speaker 3: You're part of the problem. And we've seen this play
Speaker 3: out through time in various various instances. The Red Scare,
Speaker 3: the McCarthy hearings. You remember, we had the finger pointing
Speaker 3: in Hollywood was going on. I'm not a communist. He's
Speaker 3: a communist. I'm not a communist. He's a communist. And
Speaker 3: we did we did this whole communist witch hunt thing
Speaker 3: in the United States, and I'm starting to see this
Speaker 3: happening again, especially when it comes to the protests, the
Speaker 3: campus protests, and we're saying that guy is supporting Hamas
Speaker 3: that kidney doctor from Brown University, she went to a
Speaker 3: Hesba La funeral, she must be a danger to the
Speaker 3: United States. We've got to put a stop to this.
Speaker 3: We don't like that viewpoint, we don't like the worldview.
Speaker 3: You're out. You you're a permanent US resident, but you
Speaker 3: are supporting Palestinian protests. We are going to be a
Speaker 3: pro Israeli country. You're out. So what's happening though at
Speaker 3: UCLA is and I think this is reasonable to say
Speaker 3: these are the limitations. Where does it extend? And that
Speaker 3: is that at UCLA, if in fact the university was
Speaker 3: allowing for a group of students to be harassed or
Speaker 3: prevented from accessing the university, then the university has been
Speaker 3: derelict in their duty to protect those students. While while
Speaker 3: they're worried about not trampling on the free speech of
Speaker 3: the protesters, they are in fact limiting the rights of
Speaker 3: the Jewish students who are trying to get to class
Speaker 3: that are trying to live responsibly, and so it's a
Speaker 3: balancing act that the schools have undergone. The Trump administration,
Speaker 3: of course, is going to take action against UCLA or
Speaker 3: at least investigate UCLA as they are I think another
Speaker 3: fifty universities. And part of this is all political, but
Speaker 3: there is a legitimate There is a legitimate gripe here.
Speaker 3: If you're a Jewish student who couldn't get to class
Speaker 3: because UCLA was busy protecting the rights of the protesters
Speaker 3: and then they decided not to protect your rights, that's where,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden we run into a problem. And remember,
Speaker 3: as a public university, you got to protect everybody's rights.
Speaker 3: You can't just pick and choose and say, well, we're
Speaker 3: protecting the free speech over here, and we're not going
Speaker 3: to protect your rights. And if there's a compromise that
Speaker 3: needs to be made, then it needs to be made
Speaker 3: in some of the university to do that. Okay, I'll
Speaker 3: shut up now. Chris Marrilyn for Bill Handle Today KFI
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