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<v Speaker 1>You're listen Saints KPI AM six forty The Bill Handles

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<v Speaker 2>App and now Handle on the news. Ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 2>here's not Bill Handle.

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed not Bill Handle. Chris Maryland for Bill Today. Thanks

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<v Speaker 3>for hanging out with me yet another day. The long

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<v Speaker 3>national nightmare is nearly over. We'll be gone the next

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<v Speaker 3>couple of days, but then back again next week. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like waking up from an ap and going back and

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<v Speaker 3>resuming that nightmare right where we left off. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>what's happening. That's your programming note. Join me normally on

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday afternoons. There's always a pleasure being with you, and

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<v Speaker 3>I thoroughly enjoy every opportunity we have to hang out together.

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<v Speaker 3>Although I'm loving Amy King's shirt because the greatest thing

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<v Speaker 3>we got out of the pandemic was an excuse not

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<v Speaker 3>to hang out with people. I don't want it. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of a missing throat that way, not really

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<v Speaker 3>a gorphobic, but I really if I if I just

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<v Speaker 3>hang out at home, I'm fine with that. I realized

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<v Speaker 3>the older I get, the more hermit like I become,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm totally okay with it. I'm fine with just

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna go home and I'm just not gonna

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<v Speaker 3>spend time with people because generally speaking, people suck. Individual people, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>but people in a group. She's just I got no reason.

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<v Speaker 3>There's just no reason. A few years back, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I've never been to Disneyland. What never. I don't do it. No,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't.

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<v Speaker 4>The crowd.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it. My wife is working at a big lab

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<v Speaker 3>that was in San Diego years ago, and I realized

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<v Speaker 3>I started to develop this sort of social anxiety. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not it's not bad, but I'll have these moments and

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<v Speaker 3>we're at this we were at the museums there in

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<v Speaker 3>Bilbo Park, and I have these moments where if there's

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<v Speaker 3>and it's a confined space, and we were doing this

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<v Speaker 3>big Christmas party. They planned it at the museums at

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<v Speaker 3>Balboa Park, so there were like a thousand people packed

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<v Speaker 3>there were people going in all different directions and there

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<v Speaker 3>was no real order to it, and my mind couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>process it, and I started having this panic attack and

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<v Speaker 3>I just got this whole the you hear people talking

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<v Speaker 3>about it. If you haven't experienced before, it's terrible. Everything

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<v Speaker 3>started to get really narrow, right, everything got really tunneled,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just said, I need to I need to

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<v Speaker 3>just find a corner and stand in it for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>And he just had my back against the wall where

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<v Speaker 3>I feel safe. And my wife said, why are you

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<v Speaker 3>ruining my Christmas party? You're doing this to me? Why

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<v Speaker 3>would you do this?

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<v Speaker 1>Ah?

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<v Speaker 3>The empathy, she well, she had never experienced it, she

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know anything. And I said, I said, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what's happening right now, but I'm freaking out. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>completely freaking out. And it's only happened to me a

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<v Speaker 3>few times. That was the first time. It was only

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of years later that my wife had a

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<v Speaker 3>genuine panic attack. You know the ones where all of

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<v Speaker 3>a sudden you think you're having a heart attack, which

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<v Speaker 3>is horrible feeling.

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<v Speaker 4>I had one of those during the pandemic, did you Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>How horrible is that? Is it? The worst feeling or what?

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<v Speaker 5>It was awful and we had to I called paramedics

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<v Speaker 5>and everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was doing work. I was working

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<v Speaker 3>then I was driving back and forth on the weekend,

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<v Speaker 3>so she was there alone and I get this phone

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<v Speaker 3>call that says I'm waiting for the ambulance, and I went,

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<v Speaker 3>you're waiting for what are you? What's going on? She said,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'm having a heart attack. So of course

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<v Speaker 3>I'm freaking out, and I'm grabbing everything I can to

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<v Speaker 3>throw it in a bag and get ready to take off,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm calling my boss and I'm saying, my wife's

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<v Speaker 3>having a heart attack. I have to go. And then

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<v Speaker 3>she called back later and she said, it's not a

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<v Speaker 3>heart attack. They think it was a panic attack. And

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<v Speaker 3>it was my first experience with people that have experienced

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<v Speaker 3>panic attacks. What a horrible, horrible thing to go through.

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<v Speaker 3>And she's had a few sins. But of course, you

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<v Speaker 3>once you experience it once, you have kind of an

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<v Speaker 3>bit of control, not a lot, but at least you

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<v Speaker 3>kind of know what's happening to your body. What a

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<v Speaker 3>terrible feeling. So when when the pandemic hit, how great

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<v Speaker 3>was that? Oh? I didn't have to spend time with people.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't have to go into crowded spaces.

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<v Speaker 4>There was no crowded spaces.

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<v Speaker 3>Nine. Oh, I felt me during the pandemic. I was

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<v Speaker 3>like the only guy. I loved it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, yeah, that's what one.

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<v Speaker 5>Remember when they had the you know, you had empty

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I had empty planes next to me. I think

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<v Speaker 3>I was on a flight and I think there were

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<v Speaker 3>six people on my flight. You remember the old days

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<v Speaker 3>be just a handful of people in the flight. Now

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<v Speaker 3>they do a much better job of booking them and

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<v Speaker 3>getting them all full and making sure every seat is taken.

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<v Speaker 3>But it took me back to those days, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty plus years prior, when you could get onto a

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<v Speaker 3>late night flight and there was nobody else on there.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, oh boy, was that something. And then we'll

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<v Speaker 3>not have any beverage service because we don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Want you to kill Oh that's right, they didn't know.

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<v Speaker 4>You didn't get anything on the planes.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's great. Why we're talking about this, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you know why we're talking pandemic stuff today? Well,

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<v Speaker 5>I know why I'm wearing the sweatshirt.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're at kind of an anniversary, aren't we.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's the five year anniversary of the lockdown.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Governor Newsom announced it on March nineteenth.

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<v Speaker 3>Or what I told the good old days. Oh so great,

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<v Speaker 5>And as I started lifting the restrictions, you were like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 5>that's what.

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<v Speaker 3>I Yeah, that's that's how I was. And then it

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<v Speaker 3>just so happened. It coincided. My wife and I had

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<v Speaker 3>just I was I lost my full time gig and

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<v Speaker 3>I was doing fill in work all over the place,

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<v Speaker 3>and we decided, let's get let's strip everything down and

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<v Speaker 3>pay off all of our debt. So we moved into

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<v Speaker 3>a fifth wheel camper and parked it at my parents' place,

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<v Speaker 3>which is deep in the woods in northern Michigan. And

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<v Speaker 3>we lived in that for two years. Michigan winters on

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<v Speaker 3>propane in a camper. It was terrible. It was the

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<v Speaker 3>most miserable thing. We paid off all of our credit

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<v Speaker 3>card debt, we paid off all of the cars, we

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<v Speaker 3>paid off all of the student loans, we paid off.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything got back to zero. And since then we've you know,

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<v Speaker 3>obviously I do a little more work, and her her

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<v Speaker 3>We got ourselves in a nice little cottage on the

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<v Speaker 3>spent summer here. So but it got us ahead of things.

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<v Speaker 3>So it just so happened to coincide with the pandemic

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<v Speaker 3>that we moved into this thing. So we were already

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<v Speaker 3>sort of social distancing. But what was crazy is in

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<v Speaker 3>this really remote rural area, short lots fewer people on

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<v Speaker 3>the roads. But then you started to see more and

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<v Speaker 3>more people. And I noticed this because I did do,

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<v Speaker 3>like I said, a little bit of travel. So I'd

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<v Speaker 3>travel from this remote area into some cities where I

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<v Speaker 3>was doing some work, and the cities streets are still

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<v Speaker 3>empty freeways, you know how, we got to eight lanes

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<v Speaker 3>wide on a freeway and there's hardly anybody on it.

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<v Speaker 3>And yet if you went back to my tiny little town,

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<v Speaker 3>you'd have a two lane road and there'd be traffic.

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<v Speaker 3>So the rural areas really disregarded a lot of the

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<v Speaker 3>advice that the more urban areas definitely leaned into. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think part of that has to do with when

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<v Speaker 3>you live in a rural area. First of all, there's

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<v Speaker 3>an inherent distrust of government, I think in rural areas.

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<v Speaker 3>But also you are You're just naturally socially distanced. If

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<v Speaker 3>you walk out of your front door, it's not like

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<v Speaker 3>you're walking into an apartment hallway. You're walking out into acreage,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. So it was just an interesting dichotomy between

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<v Speaker 3>those two perspectives. Okay, speaking of social distancing, imagine if

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<v Speaker 3>you could be two hundred and fifty miles away from

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<v Speaker 3>all of humanity. Oh, dear Lord, please does that sound glorious?

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<v Speaker 3>Stuck in space?

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<v Speaker 1>No more?

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<v Speaker 3>The astronauts are back. I just heard you talking with

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<v Speaker 3>Jim Ryan about this in the wake up call. Amy King,

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<v Speaker 3>and you guys pointed out what I thought was the

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<v Speaker 3>coolest aspect of the whole thing. One. I loved watching

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<v Speaker 3>the capsule come down. I love that they were able

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<v Speaker 3>to get a camera on it from I think it

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<v Speaker 3>was still eight miles high or something like that, so

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<v Speaker 3>you could actually see some of the heat coming off

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<v Speaker 3>the shields as it was re entering the atmosphere. It

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<v Speaker 3>was an amazing shot. And finally the the parachutes deployed,

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<v Speaker 3>it splashed down in the Atlantic and then was surrounded

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<v Speaker 3>by dolphins.

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<v Speaker 5>Was that just the most like weird, amazing thing ever?

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<v Speaker 3>And I think it's because we love dolphins. Now we go,

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<v Speaker 3>that's cool. The wildlife came to check them out. They

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<v Speaker 3>were greeted by dolphins. Had it been great white sharks,

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<v Speaker 3>we probably have a different take on the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>We go, oh, look, the wildlife came. But if it

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<v Speaker 3>had been great white sharks, we go, oh, they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to be eaten. They survived the re entry and now

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<v Speaker 3>they're chumped.

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<v Speaker 4>That would have been end.

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<v Speaker 3>No. No, Who do you think was the most relieved

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<v Speaker 3>when that capsule came back and splashed down and everybody

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<v Speaker 3>was safe. Had to have been Elon Musk. This guy

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<v Speaker 3>must have been sweating bullets because he's had a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of couple of rockets exploded last week. Right, He's had

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<v Speaker 3>let's say, a not great couple of weeks on the market.

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<v Speaker 3>Tesla's dropping like a rock. People are attacking his cars

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<v Speaker 3>at showrooms across the country, including what they're calling a

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<v Speaker 3>terrorist attack, and if we want to go that far,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was a certain degree of vandalism in Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 3>lit on fire. It was terrible. He's not.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a certain degree of vandalism.

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<v Speaker 3>Certain degree certain I don't know if I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>go so far to say terrorism, but it's certainly vandalism.

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<v Speaker 3>So all of these he's not had a great couple

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<v Speaker 3>of weeks, so he must have been pretty relieved. A

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<v Speaker 3>couple of notes, quick notes on this. When the astronauts

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<v Speaker 3>went into space last June, it was the Gulf of

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<v Speaker 3>Mexico when they splashed down. It was the Gulf of

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<v Speaker 3>America when they went into space in June of last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Elon Musk had thirteen kids. When they splashed down. Musk

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<v Speaker 5>There may be a peace deal in the works, but

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<v Speaker 5>it hasn't stopped the fighting. Ukraine and Russia exchanged aerial

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<v Speaker 5>to that was broker by the US residents. Putin and

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's understandable. A lot of people are

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<v Speaker 3>Putin and were saying, Pitton, what do you want? You

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<v Speaker 3>looked like Zelensky might be the guy that gets hosed

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<v Speaker 3>negotiations are what of my stuff are you taking? It's

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<v Speaker 3>not at all unlike I have three kids. The two

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<v Speaker 3>We're just divving up the little brother's toys. So sorry, Zelensky.

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<v Speaker 3>Zelensky is supposed to speak with Trump today and he says,

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<v Speaker 3>I will contact President Trump. We will discuss the details

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<v Speaker 3>at all. They lost a lot of leverage because they

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<v Speaker 3>I don't Zelenski's fighting for his life. The people of

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<v Speaker 3>And Russia doesn't seem to care. And Putin is willing

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<v Speaker 3>That's fine, North Korea. You want to bring some people over,

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<v Speaker 3>We'll throw them in our meat grinder too. He doesn't care.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is Russia's history when it comes to war too.

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<v Speaker 3>It's simply to outman and overpower other countries. They have

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<v Speaker 3>We have so many. That's how they do it. They

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<v Speaker 3>Putin looks like he's gonna get what he wants because

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<v Speaker 3>Amy King, that's all I gotta say about that.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, fine, then let's move on. You got nothing else,

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<v Speaker 5>Scotis speaks out. Supreme Court Justice John Roberts did something

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<v Speaker 5>that the justices don't normally do, and that was that

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<v Speaker 5>he had something to say about Trump's call to impeach

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<v Speaker 5>the judge who ruled against his deportation plans. Trump posted

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<v Speaker 5>to turn around and bring the Trende or Ragua guys

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<v Speaker 5>back should be impeached, and Justice Roberts said, for more

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<v Speaker 5>than two centuries, it's been established that impeachment is not

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<v Speaker 5>an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision. He

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<v Speaker 3>So really interesting that Roberts is taking a stand here

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<v Speaker 3>Supreme Court being on top of the entire branch, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's the Chief Justice. He's basically if you think of Congress,

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<v Speaker 3>of the legislative branch. Of course, the President the leader

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<v Speaker 3>of the executive branch. The Supreme Court sits atop the

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<v Speaker 3>judicial branch, with Roberts being the Chief Justice, whose voices,

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<v Speaker 3>of course amplified louder than anyone else's. He didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>to say anything, so for him to stand up and

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<v Speaker 3>speak out is a little bit peculiar. We're going to

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<v Speaker 3>dive more into this a little bit later on of

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<v Speaker 3>the show. It's a bit peculiar, but it's not unheard of.

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<v Speaker 3>Roberts has had he said things in the past, and

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<v Speaker 3>he has even you remember they ruled for Citizens United

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<v Speaker 3>I believe it was at a State of the Union

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<v Speaker 3>at the Supreme Court. And you'll recall that Robert's sort

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<v Speaker 3>of mouthed not true, not true. So he's not exactly

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<v Speaker 3>And what I think is going to be very interesting

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<v Speaker 3>Republicans who may have some reservations about President Trump sort

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<v Speaker 3>of ignoring much of the judges orders when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to the the deportation orders. Again, we'll talk more about this. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I think we've got this plan in the seven o'clock

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<v Speaker 3>more in depth as well. Is it back to me now, Amy? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Another good reason not to ride public transit? Yeah. Ian

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<v Speaker 3>police departments are for a man who allegedly stabbed someone

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<v Speaker 3>they say was in stable conditions and Metro this is

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<v Speaker 3>my favorite Metro extents. It's wishes for a quick recovery

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<v Speaker 3>Departments for their prompt response thoughts and prayers. Sorry you

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<v Speaker 3>got stabbed suspect right away before officers arrive, Please say

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<v Speaker 3>you the man was wearing a black jacket and black

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<v Speaker 3>Adidas joggers. All right, So two things. Stay away from

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<v Speaker 3>jogging suits in public. Fair Fair just never been a

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<v Speaker 3>fan of mass transit. I know, I know it's essential

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<v Speaker 3>to a city like ours, I get it. But if

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<v Speaker 3>it's so essential, then why are there's so many cars there?

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<v Speaker 3>Why does will have a job telling us where all

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<v Speaker 3>we're not. The number of people that use mass transit

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<v Speaker 3>percentage wise, is so minuscule that all you're doing is

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<v Speaker 3>just risking your life. When you go there, you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to take mass transit and you're going to be stabbed,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you're going to be urinated on, and you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to sit in somebody else's poop. That's what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the only thing that happens. Better off to just

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<v Speaker 5>Well, this guy has something and it's not trunk derangement syndrome.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a state senator in Minnesota. It's Republican Justin Icorn.

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<v Speaker 5>to define Trump derangement syndrome as a mental as a

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<v Speaker 5>mental illness. Well, he's been arrested for soliciting a minor

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<v Speaker 5>the phone and say Icorn believed he was talking to

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<v Speaker 5>a sixteen year old girl, but no, it was police

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<v Speaker 3>Oh now we've got pedophile deranged syndrome. Amy King just

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<v Speaker 3>feeding into the nonsense. Can't believe you and your prejudices

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<v Speaker 3>against kitty diddlers. How dare you define that as a

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<v Speaker 3>mental illness? This person was leaning so far into MAGA

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<v Speaker 3>that they wanted to say that anyone who didn't love

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<v Speaker 3>the president was mentally ill. Of course, this has met

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<v Speaker 3>with all kinds of cheers from a number of people

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<v Speaker 3>who have continued to push that liberalism is a mental

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<v Speaker 3>illness narrative for a long time. Of Course, political affiliation

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<v Speaker 3>is not a mental illness. We know that, except some

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<v Speaker 3>people are so deranged by their own tribalism that they

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<v Speaker 3>believe anyone who doesn't see it their way. There's no

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen this play out. Let's take this out of

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<v Speaker 3>the world of politics. I've seen this play out elsewhere

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<v Speaker 3>behind the scenes. A lot of people don't realize this.

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<v Speaker 3>But behind the scenes, Amy King and producer Ann don't

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<v Speaker 3>share a studio together. And part of the reason is

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<v Speaker 3>say that to Amy because I don't want her to

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's no escaping it here. I'm in her face.

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<v Speaker 4>But then they always.

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<v Speaker 3>Arrangement, so it is I do. Fun fact, I crossed

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<v Speaker 3>And the funny thing is the radio station. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>other places where they do this too, And so the

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<v Speaker 3>Of course I want to throw out a first pitch

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<v Speaker 3>in a Major League Baseball game. Yes, And everyone around

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So somehow we just went from from a Minnesota

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<v Speaker 3>state senator who just got Chris Hansen to I threw

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<v Speaker 3>out a first pitch at a Padre's game. See how

421
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<v Speaker 3>that works? I like it? Yep. That's called stream of

422
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<v Speaker 3>consciousness radio. All right? How about this? A lawsuit? Last year,

423
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<v Speaker 3>Card and Grove is suing six Flags Magic Mountain alleging

424
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<v Speaker 3>their twenty two year old son suffered traumatic and fatal

425
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<v Speaker 3>breeding injury sustained while riding one of the themes the

426
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<v Speaker 3>theme park. Excuse me, most infamous and popular roller coasters

427
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<v Speaker 3>X two. Anybody here bent on X two? Can you

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<v Speaker 3>describe it in any way, shape or form? All right,

429
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<v Speaker 3>that's just how famous it is. A Christopher Hawley is

430
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<v Speaker 3>a recent graduate of San Diego State with his younger

431
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<v Speaker 3>brother Alex. They were at six Flags Magic Mountain. The

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<v Speaker 3>trio climbed aboard X two. His brother and cousins sat

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<v Speaker 3>together right behind Christopher, who was in a row all

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<v Speaker 3>by himself. It's a fourth dimension coaster designed with rotating

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<v Speaker 3>seats that move independently as the ride progresses. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>throw up just thinking about it. It has a two

437
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<v Speaker 3>hundred and fifteen foot drop suddenly flips and rotate and rotates,

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<v Speaker 3>all while reaching speeds of up to seventy six miles

439
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<v Speaker 3>an hour. Who designs this? This is an absolute sadist engineer.

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<v Speaker 3>They got near the end of the ride, the coaster

441
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<v Speaker 3>suddenly and abruptly and violently jolted to a halt. It

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<v Speaker 3>jarred the twenty two year old and the other two

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<v Speaker 3>boys in their seats. One dude was holding out of

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<v Speaker 3>the rail for stability, and then when they came to

445
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<v Speaker 3>his aid after he left the ride, he mumbled that

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<v Speaker 3>his head hurt. Then he slumped over to his side

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<v Speaker 3>and lost consciousness. His parents said that he was an

448
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<v Speaker 3>excellent health. He was taking to Henry Mayo Newall Hospital

449
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<v Speaker 3>in Valencia. CT scan showed that he suffered catastrophic right

450
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<v Speaker 3>subdural hematoma resulting from the roller coaster, which means he

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<v Speaker 3>had a brain bleed and then he died. They say

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<v Speaker 3>it's all because that roller coaster came to a stop.

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<v Speaker 3>Another good reason, aside from the crowds and the exorbitant expenses,

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<v Speaker 3>to never go to theme parks. I know I'm alone

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<v Speaker 3>on that one. You are, I know I do like

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<v Speaker 3>a roller coaster. I just don't like waiting in line

457
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<v Speaker 3>for it. All right, you want to pause, now you

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<v Speaker 3>want to do one more?

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<v Speaker 4>Let's do one more?

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<v Speaker 5>Is nothing sacred testing on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

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<v Speaker 5>So Galgadat is getting her star in the Hollywood Walk

462
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<v Speaker 5>of Fame yesterday and protesters, both pro Palestinian and pro

463
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<v Speaker 5>Israeli turned out for it. They got in each other's faces.

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<v Speaker 5>One ripped a flag away from the opposing group. That

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<v Speaker 5>led to some violence. Police made a number of arrests.

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<v Speaker 5>The ceremony for the Wonder Woman star was delayed by

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<v Speaker 5>about fifteen minutes. Of course, she is Israeli and has

468
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<v Speaker 5>spoken out in support of what's happening in Israel in

469
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<v Speaker 5>the war with Hamas, and she's been unapologetic about that.

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<v Speaker 3>This is where to give credit. This is where Bill

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<v Speaker 3>really shines when he's able to talk about these things.

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<v Speaker 3>But here's my hot take on this. Good for her.

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<v Speaker 3>I love Galgadot one of my favorites, and I know

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<v Speaker 3>that's not always a popular opinion, but I think she's fantastic.

475
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<v Speaker 2>She is.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she's a lovely person. To everything I've ever

477
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<v Speaker 3>seen about her. She's proud to be Jewish, she's proud

478
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<v Speaker 3>to be in ISRAELI all that stuff, No problem with

479
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<v Speaker 3>it at all, none. But then she gets protested because

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<v Speaker 3>of it. And that's because there's a war going on

481
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<v Speaker 3>in Israel, and there's bombings going on Gaza Strip and

482
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<v Speaker 3>everything that we already know about. What I think is

483
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<v Speaker 3>remarkable about this is had had there been someone who

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<v Speaker 3>is Palestinian that was given a star, would there be

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<v Speaker 3>Israelis or Jewish people protesting a Palestinian getting a star

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<v Speaker 3>on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. My guess is no.

487
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that definitively, but my guess is no,

488
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<v Speaker 3>which indicates that right now, one of the prevailing opinions

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<v Speaker 3>is that the Palestinian people are the oppressed and the

490
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<v Speaker 3>Jews in this case are the oppressors. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 3>it's right or wrong. I'm saying that's what the perception

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<v Speaker 3>is right now, which is interesting because throughout all of

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<v Speaker 3>human history, the Jews have been the oppressed, not the oppressors.

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<v Speaker 3>So we have flipped the script. In the last I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, handful of decades, whatever it is, we've completely

496
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<v Speaker 3>flipped the script. And now you've got no, you're an oppressor. No,

497
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<v Speaker 3>I've always been oppressed, and I'm proud to be a

498
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<v Speaker 3>person who's fought and overcome oppression. And they've got the

499
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<v Speaker 3>other side that says you overcame it only to oppress

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<v Speaker 3>other people. And the cycle continues and round and round,

501
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<v Speaker 3>and round they go. We've got a judge in Wisconsin

502
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<v Speaker 3>that is upsetting a number of people by defending free speech.

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<v Speaker 3>Who knew that would happen. So imagine that you've run

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<v Speaker 3>across a guy who's got the kitty porn. My god,

505
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<v Speaker 3>what a terrible thing. You can't have kitty porn. Look

506
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<v Speaker 3>at the victims. You've victimized these children, except it's AI

507
00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:44.400
<v Speaker 3>generated kitty porn. So the guy was charged. He's forty

508
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<v Speaker 3>two years old, charged with four federal criminal counts related

509
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<v Speaker 3>to alleged production, distribution, and possession of AI generated images

510
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<v Speaker 3>of minors engaging in sexually explicit conduct. The case that

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<v Speaker 3>could set major implications for how AI generated porn child

512
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<v Speaker 3>porn excuse me is legally handled. You recall that we've

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<v Speaker 3>had an issue in California with some schools where people

514
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<v Speaker 3>were high school kids were taking the faces of their

515
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<v Speaker 3>classmates and then using AI to undress them. Of course,

516
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<v Speaker 3>we don't know if it was accurate or not. It

517
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<v Speaker 3>AI's interpretation based on full body photos, and what AI

518
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<v Speaker 3>could ascertain from those photos is so what somebody's shape

519
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<v Speaker 3>might be like. The difference is, of course, is that

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<v Speaker 3>if you're using a photo of an actual person, and

521
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<v Speaker 3>then you're generating it, you are victimizing that individual. However,

522
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<v Speaker 3>what if the person doesn't exist at all, and you've

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<v Speaker 3>seen the AI generated photos of people and they look

524
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<v Speaker 3>incredibly realistic. I'm not talking about porn photos ConA. I'm

525
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<v Speaker 3>talking about just general pictures of people. Who is this

526
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<v Speaker 3>person real or is this AI generated? Now there are

527
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<v Speaker 3>some tip offs to it. Skin might be too perfect,

528
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<v Speaker 3>they might have twelve fingers. All these things are clues.

529
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<v Speaker 3>But AI is getting better and better and better. And

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<v Speaker 3>so what if you have somebody who has AI generated

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<v Speaker 3>picture of children in sexually explicit scenarios? Generally we say

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<v Speaker 3>not a great idea. Is it illegal to draw and

533
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<v Speaker 3>under if you are a very good artist, could you

534
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<v Speaker 3>draw an underage child in a sexually explicit position? Is

535
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<v Speaker 3>that illegal? Well, we'd say, well, it's distasteful, but it's

536
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<v Speaker 3>art and would be protected under the First Amendment because

537
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<v Speaker 3>that person created it, and so that would be protected.

538
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<v Speaker 3>So how is that different than AI. Well, the person

539
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<v Speaker 3>didn't necessarily draw it out. AI did, But does the

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<v Speaker 3>person have the First Amendment right to witness it? The

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<v Speaker 3>guy allegedly used text to text to image generative artificial

542
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<v Speaker 3>intelligence in a model called stable diffusion created thousands of

543
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<v Speaker 3>realistic images of prepubescent miners. In an argument to dismiss

544
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<v Speaker 3>the possession charges, the man said that he has the

545
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<v Speaker 3>right to possess and produce obscene material in his own home.

546
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<v Speaker 3>He cited a previous Supreme Court ruling that prohibited cribalt

547
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<v Speaker 3>that prohibited, excuse me, criminalizing obscene materials at the home.

548
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<v Speaker 3>So what happens to this guy? The case will go on.

549
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<v Speaker 3>The judge in Wisconsin allowed three of the charges to

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<v Speaker 3>move forward through one charge out. The judge argued that

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<v Speaker 3>the First Amendment protects the possession of virtual child pornography

552
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<v Speaker 3>and one in one's home. Prosecutors have appealed that decision.

553
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<v Speaker 3>So it will be very interesting as we're seeing a

554
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<v Speaker 3>twenty first century challenge to free speech limitations. Amy, you

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<v Speaker 3>got one more?

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<v Speaker 4>Yep?

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<v Speaker 3>All right?

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<v Speaker 5>So did you CLA just sit back and watch? Jewish

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<v Speaker 5>students and a faculty member have claimed that UCLA enabled

560
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<v Speaker 5>anti Semitic actions during the pro Palestinian campus encampment last spring,

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<v Speaker 5>in the protests where they blocked access to certain students

562
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<v Speaker 5>and that kind of thing. Well, on Monday, the Trump

563
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<v Speaker 5>administration got into it when the Department of Justice filed

564
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<v Speaker 5>court documents supporting the right of the students and faculty

565
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<v Speaker 5>to sue for discrimination and accused UCLA of trying to

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<v Speaker 5>evade its responsibility for alleged anti Semitism on campus.

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<v Speaker 3>M All right, So this puts a real spotlight on

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<v Speaker 3>the protests. As we know, you have the right to protest.

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<v Speaker 3>Even if the majority of people don't like what you

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<v Speaker 3>have to say, you have a right to say it.

571
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<v Speaker 3>We know this. We know this because we've had it

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<v Speaker 3>reinforced time and time again the old and it's now

573
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<v Speaker 3>been overturned, but not overturned, but it's been clarified. Remember

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<v Speaker 3>the people say, you can't you'll fire in a crowded

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<v Speaker 3>movie theater, Well you can.

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<v Speaker 4>You can, Yeah, you can. I thought you really couldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>No, They they limited the restrictions to say that it

578
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<v Speaker 3>has to be inciting imminent danger and so you have

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<v Speaker 3>to have a reasonable belief that what you're about to

580
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<v Speaker 3>do is going to incite people and put people in danger.

581
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<v Speaker 3>So they clarified that years later. But the original case,

582
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<v Speaker 3>you can't yell fire in a crowded movie theater was

583
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<v Speaker 3>a real test and the limitations of the free speech.

584
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<v Speaker 3>And I don't mean to trample too much into handles

585
00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:27.240
<v Speaker 3>world here, but I read a lot of Twitter, so

586
00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:30.519
<v Speaker 3>I know law very very well better than most lawyers.

587
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:32.799
<v Speaker 3>In fact, if you just spend a lot of time

588
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:37.200
<v Speaker 3>on Twitter, you're generally smarter than everybody in the world,

589
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:40.640
<v Speaker 3>and your viewpoints will be reinforced. But here's what I

590
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:46.640
<v Speaker 3>learned getting smarter on Twitter. You is that the original

591
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<v Speaker 3>case where they said you can't yell fire in a

592
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<v Speaker 3>crowded movie theater, which of course was later clarified during

593
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<v Speaker 3>the Brandenburg case. That was all about a gentleman who

594
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<v Speaker 3>was handing out leaflets promoting socialism, and we said, well,

595
00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:01.920
<v Speaker 3>you can't do that. You can't and handout leaflets promoting socialism.

596
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:05.480
<v Speaker 3>We're fighting socialists. This is early in the twentieth century.

597
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<v Speaker 3>We're fighting socialists, and you're out there promoting something that

598
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<v Speaker 3>is abhorrent. We as a country will not stand for socialism.

599
00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:14.039
<v Speaker 3>You're part of the problem. And we've seen this play

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<v Speaker 3>out through time in various various instances. The Red Scare,

601
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<v Speaker 3>the McCarthy hearings. You remember, we had the finger pointing

602
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<v Speaker 3>in Hollywood was going on. I'm not a communist. He's

603
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<v Speaker 3>a communist. I'm not a communist. He's a communist. And

604
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<v Speaker 3>we did we did this whole communist witch hunt thing

605
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<v Speaker 3>in the United States, and I'm starting to see this

606
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<v Speaker 3>happening again, especially when it comes to the protests, the

607
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:44.200
<v Speaker 3>campus protests, and we're saying that guy is supporting Hamas

608
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<v Speaker 3>that kidney doctor from Brown University, she went to a

609
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<v Speaker 3>Hesba La funeral, she must be a danger to the

610
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<v Speaker 3>United States. We've got to put a stop to this.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't like that viewpoint, we don't like the worldview.

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<v Speaker 3>You're out. You you're a permanent US resident, but you

613
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<v Speaker 3>are supporting Palestinian protests. We are going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>pro Israeli country. You're out. So what's happening though at

615
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<v Speaker 3>UCLA is and I think this is reasonable to say

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<v Speaker 3>these are the limitations. Where does it extend? And that

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<v Speaker 3>is that at UCLA, if in fact the university was

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<v Speaker 3>allowing for a group of students to be harassed or

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<v Speaker 3>prevented from accessing the university, then the university has been

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<v Speaker 3>derelict in their duty to protect those students. While while

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<v Speaker 3>they're worried about not trampling on the free speech of

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<v Speaker 3>the protesters, they are in fact limiting the rights of

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<v Speaker 3>the Jewish students who are trying to get to class

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<v Speaker 3>that are trying to live responsibly, and so it's a

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<v Speaker 3>balancing act that the schools have undergone. The Trump administration,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, is going to take action against UCLA or

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<v Speaker 3>at least investigate UCLA as they are I think another

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<v Speaker 3>fifty universities. And part of this is all political, but

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<v Speaker 3>there is a legitimate There is a legitimate gripe here.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're a Jewish student who couldn't get to class

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<v Speaker 3>because UCLA was busy protecting the rights of the protesters

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<v Speaker 3>and then they decided not to protect your rights, that's where,

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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden we run into a problem. And remember,

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<v Speaker 3>as a public university, you got to protect everybody's rights.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't just pick and choose and say, well, we're

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<v Speaker 3>protecting the free speech over here, and we're not going

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<v Speaker 3>to protect your rights. And if there's a compromise that

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<v Speaker 3>needs to be made, then it needs to be made

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<v Speaker 3>in some of the university to do that. Okay, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>shut up now. Chris Marrilyn for Bill Handle Today KFI

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