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<v Speaker 1>The show has begun since your phases the fun You Galty,

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<v Speaker 1>Full Trip Trip Trip Trips and in DC with Corridome,

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<v Speaker 1>It's the d Conchamber. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,

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<v Speaker 1>trekkies and trekkers, Welcome back to a very special episode

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<v Speaker 1>of the Decon Chamber. I am your co host, Dominic

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<v Speaker 1>keating joint as always with my bestie mister Connor Treneer,

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<v Speaker 1>my fellow co host.

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<v Speaker 2>In the house.

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<v Speaker 1>We're so pleased to have in the Chamber today, mister

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<v Speaker 1>Vince Dedrick Junior. He's a second generation stunt performer, following

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<v Speaker 1>his father, Vince Dedrick Senor into film and TV. He's

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<v Speaker 1>now a titan of the industry with over fifty years

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<v Speaker 1>working an acclaimed stunt coordinator, actor, producer, director, and even writer.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Connor and I know him best of all as

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<v Speaker 1>the stunt coordinator on all four seasons of Enterprise, where

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<v Speaker 1>he also served as primary stunt double for our captain

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<v Speaker 1>mister Scott Bakula. Among his many distinctions, He's also doubled

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Bridges in dozens of films. He's well known for

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<v Speaker 1>his incredible stunt work on films like Sir Romancing, The Stone,

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<v Speaker 1>Heat Titanic, The Big Lebowski, and Iron Man. On the

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<v Speaker 1>TV screen, You've seen him in Buffy, Babylon five, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course Maguiver to name it a few. Literally, his

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<v Speaker 1>credits number in the hundreds. He's been nominated three times

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<v Speaker 1>for Primetime Emmy Awards, including one for two episodes of

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<v Speaker 1>our show Enterprise in season four. I think that was

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<v Speaker 1>Borderland and Cold Station twelve if I'm not mistaken. He

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<v Speaker 1>got a SAG nomination for Iron Man three and has

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<v Speaker 1>won of Children of Family Emmy Award for his stunt

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<v Speaker 1>coordination on the show Danger Force. His series Donn on

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<v Speaker 1>the Go, which I did not know about, for which

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<v Speaker 1>he served as director, producer and writer, has picked up

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<v Speaker 1>several awards across the festival circuit, and just recently his

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<v Speaker 1>dedicated years of work in the stunt industry, He's just

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<v Speaker 1>become an inductee into the Gold Circle of the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six Children of Family Emmy Awards. He's meant to

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<v Speaker 1>subsequent generations of stunt performers who are sure to carry

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<v Speaker 1>on his wisdom. Don't bump into the furniture, mate, it

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<v Speaker 1>is to come. Please give a very warm welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>mister Vince Dedrick Junior. Yes, there you are.

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<v Speaker 2>Mates. Wow, that was a great lead in. Wow, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a lead in.

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<v Speaker 3>It's such a thrill to talk to you again and

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about your work with not only us, but

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<v Speaker 3>all of the things.

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<v Speaker 4>You've done throughout your career.

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<v Speaker 3>And look, I mean I looked you up, I did

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<v Speaker 3>some research. Good god, man, do you ever well you're

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<v Speaker 3>sitting now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting. Yeah, I'm resting now. It's been a now,

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<v Speaker 2>but not I've started to rest a lot more about

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<v Speaker 2>last year and a half. Yeah, this fifty two years

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<v Speaker 2>I think. I don't know if you've heard, but I

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<v Speaker 2>was on the on The Happy Day Show the first

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<v Speaker 2>season as an extra. I did background crosses. And that

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<v Speaker 2>show is a single camera show that was back in

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<v Speaker 2>seventy three, and that's where it kind of started.

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<v Speaker 1>So your dad, Vince Fedrick, was obviously a stunt man.

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<v Speaker 1>How let's start there, I mean, how did he It

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<v Speaker 1>takes a certain you know, let's face it, a certain

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<v Speaker 1>human being that goes, yeah, I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Do Yeah, I'll give you the short story. He worked

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<v Speaker 2>at Groman. It's an aeronautical industry growman whatever it's called.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's doing nights. He couldn't stand it, and he

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<v Speaker 2>looked in the newspaper that's what that was before the Internet,

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<v Speaker 2>and he saw something for some grips and electricians over

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<v Speaker 2>at MGM Studios. They are looking for it. So he

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<v Speaker 2>went down there to apply to do something different, and

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<v Speaker 2>he saw all these marines down at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the block there. He said, Hey, I just got out

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<v Speaker 2>of the Marines. I'd loved it. What were these guys doing. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>they're signing up for doing extra work. What's extra work?

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<v Speaker 2>And that's how it kind of started. He went down

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<v Speaker 2>there because he was a marine and just knew the talk.

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<v Speaker 2>He got in there and that's when he started doing

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<v Speaker 2>extra work and worked his way up from there into

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<v Speaker 2>stunt work, working with the guys. I you may remember

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<v Speaker 2>how I need him those guys when how it was

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<v Speaker 2>just getting started working out on weekends, and because he

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<v Speaker 2>loved seeing the stunts on the shows, and back then

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<v Speaker 2>it was a lot of Westerns. He's sort of like

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<v Speaker 2>the late fifth mid to late fifties, so it's nothing

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<v Speaker 2>but Westerns. And he didn't know how to ride a horse,

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<v Speaker 2>so he learned how to ride a horse, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>how he got with McQueen. He got a job to

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<v Speaker 2>just work on the show as a background, one of

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<v Speaker 2>the backgrounds, and the ad came up to him and

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<v Speaker 2>looked him up and down said, hey, can you ride?

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<v Speaker 2>He said, oh, like the win. He said, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to have you put on Josh Randall's outfit, which was

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<v Speaker 2>Steve McQueen, and he did some writing on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Steve and my dad hit it off because Steve was

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<v Speaker 2>an ext marine, came from a broken home, my dad

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<v Speaker 2>came from a broken home. They were best friends for

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<v Speaker 2>seven years and they did a lot of shows together

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<v Speaker 2>and that's where it kind of all started with him.

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<v Speaker 4>That's amazing. I have to say this.

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<v Speaker 3>I was looking you up and I looked through your

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<v Speaker 3>Instagram and there's this post that you sent out where

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<v Speaker 3>you and your pops are working on a fight scene

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<v Speaker 3>and halfway through your dad stops and then you go

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<v Speaker 3>through it again and then he clocks it.

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<v Speaker 4>You can even hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh God, Jesus Christ. Oh it's a nice sound. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a great time. I thought my tooth came through my

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<v Speaker 2>lip because it was a good hit and not due

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<v Speaker 2>to the ground. Yeah, it was an uppercut, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Dad was in his seventies at that point, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was doing a Sony commercial and I came he goes

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<v Speaker 2>not too far from me, and I said, hey, Dad,

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<v Speaker 2>I got to work on some Koreo. Can you help me?

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<v Speaker 2>I said, okay, I'm a little tired, but okay, And

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<v Speaker 2>so of course, you know when you're tired, you wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to throw punches all. You know, we had done it

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<v Speaker 2>a few times and he clocked me. Good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, really pretty beautiful thing about that scene, I'll call

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<v Speaker 3>it moment, is that you know, after that you've got

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<v Speaker 3>to you know, tissue on your lip, and then you

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<v Speaker 3>are just talking to your dad. You know, he's like,

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<v Speaker 3>the last time that happened, he broke somebody's nose.

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<v Speaker 2>To double uh uh Kirk Douglas and he broke his

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<v Speaker 2>nose real bad on a show. And yeah, so he'd

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<v Speaker 2>only broken or hit two people. My me, what's funny

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<v Speaker 2>we forgot that the camera is still rolling and you

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<v Speaker 2>see all this stuff in the background.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to say that, Vince, one of the most

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful things I've seen in a while is that you're

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<v Speaker 3>chatting about it and like, you know, and then what

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<v Speaker 3>does he say, like, you know, yeah, I got you good,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was like, yeah, don't piss me off.

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<v Speaker 2>But I went down pretty quick. You went down like

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<v Speaker 2>a rock.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of blood, Yeah, a lot of blood.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't piss me off. And then you I love you,

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<v Speaker 2>I love you. I love you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he says, I love you.

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<v Speaker 3>And the way in which you said it to each other,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean just just really made my heart swell.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. He wasn't one to use that too much and

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't say it much. But I got it on

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<v Speaker 2>video and that's the first first one. And I'm glad,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, but it took me hit and hit to

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<v Speaker 2>get that on video. Yeah, so you did you?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, as a kid, did you get to go

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<v Speaker 1>to set and see him in action? And is that

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<v Speaker 1>what you got the bug?

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<v Speaker 2>I got the bug? Yeah. I used to watch him

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<v Speaker 2>in the backyard do fights and choreograph fights. That's when they,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, do it in the backyard. Today they do

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<v Speaker 2>it and big warehouses with cardboard boxes. But my dad

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<v Speaker 2>and a buddy of his I can't remember his name,

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<v Speaker 2>would just fight all the time, and and uh, it

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<v Speaker 2>was so funny. One time one of the neighbors thought

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<v Speaker 2>they were really fighting and called the police and the

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<v Speaker 2>police came down and they were just throwing you know,

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<v Speaker 2>fake punches, what have you. But I, you know, lift it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was around it. We had Lee Majors who was

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<v Speaker 2>just getting started on Big Valley, was hungry all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have any money. He came over to our house

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<v Speaker 2>all the time for dinner. His dad was doubling him

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<v Speaker 2>on Big Valley, and so I saw that. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think of what got me is he did bring me

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<v Speaker 2>to the set a few times and I saw him

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<v Speaker 2>do a big fight on Big Valley, and I thought

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<v Speaker 2>that was great. And what I loved about is at

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<v Speaker 2>the end, all the people behind the camera clapped and

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<v Speaker 2>that was fantastic, and I was, you know, I swelled

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<v Speaker 2>my chest. I'm nine years old, and I thought, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's my dad. So that was pretty cool, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's how it kind of got started. But I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>think I could ever do it because my dad was

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<v Speaker 2>a tough son of a gun, and I wasn't tough.

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<v Speaker 2>I was nowhere near as tough as him. My kids

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<v Speaker 2>had a broken home, a marine. He had a tough life,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was he was known to the beliefe. He

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<v Speaker 2>used to steal hubcaps. He was he was a rough kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, he was a rough but.

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<v Speaker 1>My Ryan thinking you were born in Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my dad was stationed at Kanyee and I was

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<v Speaker 2>born in Hawaii. So I still see that house every

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<v Speaker 2>time we go there on vacation. I go to Kanyeoe

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<v Speaker 2>and that house is still there. It's a little cottage.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's so funny because my dad and I were

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<v Speaker 2>working on a show down there once. He took me there.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, because it's a two, it's a like a condo,

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<v Speaker 2>an A, a unit and a B.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, over here you were conceived and over here you

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<v Speaker 2>were born units.

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<v Speaker 1>That's say that, Vince.

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<v Speaker 3>How does it work? How do you like sow for instance?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, yeah, can you ride a horse? Actors are

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<v Speaker 3>always like, well horse and you go, hell yeah. One

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<v Speaker 3>of the reality is is that in your business you've

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<v Speaker 3>got to actually do some serious things with stunts, yes, cars,

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<v Speaker 3>what have you? What what gets one into it and

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<v Speaker 3>what does it take to be able to survive the business?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's a good question. Today I have no idea

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<v Speaker 2>how they're doing it. But back in my day, how

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<v Speaker 2>we did it was we just uh, we would trained

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<v Speaker 2>with friends or they had some stunt schools back then,

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<v Speaker 2>and you would train and then you take pictures of

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<v Speaker 2>yourself doing a high fall or doing some sword work

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<v Speaker 2>or on fire, and you'd have your composite and eight

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<v Speaker 2>by ten your face shot on one side and you're all

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<v Speaker 2>your action on the other, and you go hustle the

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<v Speaker 2>studios and go to the stunt coordinators that are running shows.

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<v Speaker 2>And back then you literally had to jump over the

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<v Speaker 2>fences at like universal sneak in to get your pictures

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<v Speaker 2>to the coordinators. And that's how you got recognized and known,

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<v Speaker 2>and they wouldn't take just everybody had to have word

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<v Speaker 2>of mouth too, like other stunt guys would say, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that guy's good, that kid's good, he's up and coming.

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<v Speaker 2>And you have to train. You just got to do

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<v Speaker 4>Does a good mean like they'll do anything.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I remember I was looking at your on

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<v Speaker 3>the information about you, like somebody said to you, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna send a car down an eighty foot fall

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<v Speaker 3>and going to be on either side, and you went, hell, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Jump, oh yeah. I was very excited about that because

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<v Speaker 2>I was I was okay with heights. I had never

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<v Speaker 2>taken a car off a waterfall with right next to me.

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<v Speaker 2>We literally Terry Leonard and I were on each side

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<v Speaker 2>of the car and wrote the car was on a

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<v Speaker 2>off the eighty footer, but it was actually on a

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<v Speaker 2>of the of the waterfall, we actually chumped off and

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<v Speaker 2>went with it all the way down. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it was exciting. I was twenty seven, I think

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<v Speaker 2>as a professional stunt man, and I said to do

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<v Speaker 2>a stunt with a legend like Terry Leonard, Hell yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and I I was game for it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's almost like, yeah, sure, I'll do that.

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<v Speaker 3>But the machinations, the reality of how do you figure

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<v Speaker 3>out sending a car over a waterfall two actors on

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<v Speaker 3>either side, the realities of that are very different.

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<v Speaker 4>They're just kind of going like hell yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah. And we had an accident the first well

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<v Speaker 2>not an accident, but when they released the car on

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<v Speaker 2>take one, the car got stuck on the ramp. So

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<v Speaker 2>there was no cable on it. It was literally stuck

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<v Speaker 2>and we didn't know what to do. We couldn't jump

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<v Speaker 2>near the edge. We had to ride this thing down.

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<v Speaker 2>So we literally, I'm screaming at him the top of

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<v Speaker 2>my lungs because the water so wow, what did we

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<v Speaker 2>do were we were in a mess? And he said

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<v Speaker 2>just jump off to the side, So we literally jumped

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<v Speaker 2>off to the side. They cut, they broke for lunch.

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<v Speaker 2>They reset the car during lunch, and it was the

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<v Speaker 2>first shot after lunch. Of course, I couldn't eat a

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<v Speaker 2>thing now because you know, we had a mishap, so

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't expect that. I knew. I knew going back

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<v Speaker 2>into it. I knew with a car you have to

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<v Speaker 2>get or anything that you're riding, you have to get

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<v Speaker 2>away from it. So you have to if you get

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<v Speaker 2>If you get off of that car too late when

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<v Speaker 2>you're riding it down, when it's in free fall, you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna stay with the car all the way down, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna get away from it. So you have to

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<v Speaker 2>jump off the car right before you get to the

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<v Speaker 2>edge of that ramp, which we did. Although Terry, if

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<v Speaker 2>you watch the picture the movie Romancing the Stone, he

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<v Speaker 2>was literally right next to the car all the way down.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll day he almost got killed on that one. But see,

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<v Speaker 2>those are the those are the ones that are what

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<v Speaker 2>I call the ten percenters. Ninety percent of the time,

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<v Speaker 2>they're you know, fights and falls, ten footers and and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, things that you're gonna walk away from. You

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<v Speaker 2>might get hurt, but you're gonna walk away from. That

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<v Speaker 2>one was a life or death and I've had a

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<v Speaker 2>few of those over there over my career.

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<v Speaker 1>When you say jumped from the car, I mean are

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<v Speaker 1>you jumping out of the window? Are you opening the door?

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<v Speaker 2>No? We're literally I mean uh. In the movie, you

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<v Speaker 2>see Kathleen Turner Michael Douglass inside the car. They're riding

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<v Speaker 2>it down the river and they see the waterfalle what

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<v Speaker 2>do we do? We got to jump And so they

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<v Speaker 2>climb out the what do you call that the sun roof,

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<v Speaker 2>and as they do, they go to a different shot

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<v Speaker 2>of a white shot of them jumping off, so you

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<v Speaker 2>don't see they We had we had to have a

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<v Speaker 2>spot made for us with these two little steel pegs

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<v Speaker 2>on each side, just so we could hang onto those

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<v Speaker 2>by our feet hold onto the car. So we were

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<v Speaker 2>literally straddling the car on each side and we jumped

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<v Speaker 2>just when it got to the edge. And that's what

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<v Speaker 2>was so scary because the first time it's it got

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<v Speaker 2>hung up, and that freaks you out.

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<v Speaker 1>You just don't like to understand that you might have

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<v Speaker 1>been Kathleen Turner in that ship.

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<v Speaker 2>I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I knew it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, you can't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a pretty young man.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what's so funny. I got. And I was thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about it today in the shower. I was thinking, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, I wouldn't have doubled Kathleen Turner had I

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<v Speaker 2>not gotten a me. Butit dysentery I got. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>do you remember the mud side when they were going

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<v Speaker 2>to follow?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was water that they shipped in. They literally

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<v Speaker 2>had barrels of water that would go with us. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>know where the water came from, who knows where, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because these Mexican drivers were bringing the water in barrels

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<v Speaker 2>of water in for us. And uh, I got sick

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<v Speaker 2>about a week after that. I mean bit dysentery and

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<v Speaker 2>I just lost thirty nine pounds in like six weeks, Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>like a rail and that Kathleen was a railback. Then

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<v Speaker 2>she's just gotten off a body heat, which was an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing movie. And uh so Terry said, my girl doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to do the stunt. You want to do it?

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, hell yeah, as you know, hell yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah no, there's a picture of me somewhere in my

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<v Speaker 2>in my photo desks of me in the dress.

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<v Speaker 1>With the bigger bowski. Just how many white Russians did

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<v Speaker 1>you have to drink?

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<v Speaker 2>That was a crazy show. I got to tell you,

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<v Speaker 2>that's my first time working with the Cohen brothers and

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<v Speaker 2>I almost got fired on that show because I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, they we went in it was the scene

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<v Speaker 2>where Jeff's head gets put in the toilet and they

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<v Speaker 2>want me to do it. We went in the apartment

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<v Speaker 2>and there they're showing me what we're gonna do, and

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<v Speaker 2>and uh uh. One of the Coen brothers, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was Ethan. He says, hey, guys, they're lighting in

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<v Speaker 2>there in the bathroom right now, so we can't rehearse.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna we're gonna go around the corner. This

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<v Speaker 2>is at a studio in Hollywood somewhere. I forget the

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<v Speaker 2>name of Sam Goldwyn Ally whatever whatever it was. It

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<v Speaker 2>was from the thirties. And he said, we're gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>to the public restroom around the corner. It's been cleaned

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to rehearse there. And I said stop.

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<v Speaker 2>I said stop, And I looked at Ethan and Joel

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<v Speaker 2>and the stunt coordinators from New York. So I really

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know him. I said, look, I said, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>doing that. You can do it. I pointed my finger

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<v Speaker 2>at Ethan. You can. I'm not putting my head in

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<v Speaker 2>that toilet. I said, you can go to home depot,

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<v Speaker 2>get a brand new toilet, bring it in and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>rehearse all day on. I'll rehearse all day on for it.

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<v Speaker 2>And there was silence. They all looked at me, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going I'm done, I'm fired. This is it, And

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<v Speaker 2>then Ethan laughed. Joel laughed and said that, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're right, we'll do that. And great they did it.

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<v Speaker 2>And so if you ever say I'm trying to think

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<v Speaker 2>it might be in my Instagram, I've got the story

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<v Speaker 2>on that, and you'll see the toilet with Ethan leaning

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<v Speaker 2>over it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, yes, yeah, yeah, he's he's like underneath it,

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<v Speaker 4>and you looked up and yeah, I am not about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Did so much DNA from the thirties all the way

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<v Speaker 2>till the present. There's no way. I don't care how

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<v Speaker 2>clean that toilet is in.

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<v Speaker 1>That Yeah, and you do already, you know you had

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<v Speaker 1>to maybe dysancery once already.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I wanted to ask you what what are

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<v Speaker 3>you looking for? And what makes you hire someone to

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<v Speaker 3>stunt performer.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's deep, I think. I look I look for confidence.

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<v Speaker 2>I look for I don't want an egotistical asshole. Excuse

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<v Speaker 2>my French, but I don't want that kind of guy

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<v Speaker 2>on my show because those kinds of guys will get hurt,

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<v Speaker 2>the ones that are a little too cocky, And I

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<v Speaker 2>just want guys that know their stuff, have a good rep,

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<v Speaker 2>will listen to me, will stay I like people that

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<v Speaker 2>stay on set are there so I don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>go looking for him, and just you know, just all

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<v Speaker 2>all around stunt guys.

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<v Speaker 4>What is knowing your stuff mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Like, you know, for instance, did you have a guy

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<v Speaker 3>that says, I mean I've never ridden a horse?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well see that's the thing. You know, hey, you

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<v Speaker 2>have to check and they have websites or or back

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<v Speaker 2>in the day, we used to have these books and

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<v Speaker 2>I used to use them on on Star Trek. They

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<v Speaker 2>were called the Stunt Directory, and you can look and

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<v Speaker 2>you can see their picture onto the right where there

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<v Speaker 2>be their abilities or there's specialties some what have you.

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<v Speaker 2>And so there'd be people that I didn't know that

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<v Speaker 2>I had to get over there. It was a good size,

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<v Speaker 2>or I needed some indis that could ride or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'd look in there and i'd look to see

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<v Speaker 2>if they could ride, or if they could if they're

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<v Speaker 2>good with sword play, they were comfortable with fire, that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff, and then I would cross check with

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<v Speaker 2>another stunt guy that has worked them and get, you know, recommendations.

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<v Speaker 2>Every once in a while, I get bit by somebody

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<v Speaker 2>that didn't didn't do what I wanted to do. It

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<v Speaker 2>even happened on one of our episodes, and it happens.

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<v Speaker 2>But all in all, uh, you got you got to

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<v Speaker 2>know your basics. You got to know your fights, your

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<v Speaker 2>high falls, your fire sword plays, good car work, motorcycles,

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<v Speaker 2>all as a well rounded stunt guy. Horsework is something

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<v Speaker 2>that's almost a specialty now because you don't see much

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<v Speaker 2>of it anymore. I really don't see much of it,

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<v Speaker 2>but now with the Yellowstone and all the other shows

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<v Speaker 2>that's coming back. What Taylor shrit is he can ride

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<v Speaker 2>a horse. That's you can ride a horse?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes he can. He does all he does. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>right saying he does a lot of that stunt horse

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<v Speaker 1>work is himself, doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>He he does the uh I forget what it's called.

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<v Speaker 2>It's uh uh oh god, where they stopped stuff? I

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<v Speaker 2>forget forget what? But yes, he's very good, a good horseman,

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<v Speaker 2>tssage stopping way.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he can like a radio guy. He can

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<v Speaker 1>stop a horse on a dime and turn it around.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's called cutting where they cut the horse,

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<v Speaker 2>you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh yeah, yeah, he's got extraordinary So I when

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<v Speaker 1>when when did you get your first job as a

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<v Speaker 1>coordinator rather than a gun for hire as it were.

421
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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say it was romancing the Stone?

422
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<v Speaker 4>What was it?

423
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<v Speaker 2>I think that was it. I tried to think if

424
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<v Speaker 2>I did anything prior to that as a coordinator. I

425
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<v Speaker 2>can't go that far back. I've been knocked out five times,

426
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<v Speaker 2>so I used that bing that But I think it was.

427
00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:54.839
<v Speaker 2>It was well, let's put it this way, when Romancing

428
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<v Speaker 2>came out and they gave me that coordinator credit, the

429
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<v Speaker 2>phone went I can't. I was true and features and

430
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<v Speaker 2>TV shows and that's how I got mcgiver. Yeah. Mcgiver

431
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<v Speaker 2>was a seven year run. It was a great run

432
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<v Speaker 2>over at Paramount, which by the way, is my favorite

433
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<v Speaker 2>studio of all studios. I had so many great memories

434
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<v Speaker 2>with you guys on eight nine and eighteen, just a

435
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<v Speaker 2>really great, great times.

436
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<v Speaker 3>And that would say probably for a stunt coordinator to

437
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<v Speaker 3>get mcgiver. Yeah, with a paper clip and aluminum boil

438
00:20:28.039 --> 00:20:30.759
<v Speaker 3>and you figure all these things out. What a wonder

439
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<v Speaker 3>to be able to do stunt coordination for that show specifically.

440
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<v Speaker 2>It was a great job and it was a great

441
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<v Speaker 2>way they took me up to We shot down here

442
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<v Speaker 2>for two years over at Paramount, I went up to

443
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<v Speaker 2>Vancouver for four and then came back here for the

444
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<v Speaker 2>last season. So the sad thing about that was we

445
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<v Speaker 2>never had a core crew like we did on Star Trek,

446
00:20:49.279 --> 00:20:51.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, for the four years, and those crews on

447
00:20:51.839 --> 00:20:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Star Trek, boy, they went back, didn't they They had

448
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<v Speaker 2>we had an enterprise and then they were on Voyager

449
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<v Speaker 2>DS nine and all the way back.

450
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<v Speaker 1>Seventeen is some of them had been together. Yeah a

451
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<v Speaker 1>long time.

452
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<v Speaker 2>I think I told you. I've been talking to Brad

453
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<v Speaker 2>and Mary lately and they're doing good and they're still around.

454
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<v Speaker 1>Rod. You said, lives out in palm.

455
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<v Speaker 2>It's either Palm Springs or Palm Desert, one of those

456
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<v Speaker 2>palms out there. Any place. Golf just about every.

457
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<v Speaker 1>Day, God bless.

458
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

459
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<v Speaker 1>We used toll love playing golf together. He was not bad,

460
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<v Speaker 1>not a bad golfer. As I remember what I know.

461
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<v Speaker 1>You got hurt, didn't you quite badly on Titanic? That

462
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<v Speaker 1>was I was one British actor in town at the time.

463
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<v Speaker 1>Didn't get a bloody job on that film. Yeah that

464
00:21:34.480 --> 00:21:36.079
<v Speaker 1>was when was that? That was ninety six, That was

465
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<v Speaker 1>before I started Enterprise. Yeah, I get broke some ribs

466
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<v Speaker 1>on that show. I was the first US stunt guy

467
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<v Speaker 1>to get hurt on that.

468
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<v Speaker 2>And the stunt guys, the paramedics on the show down

469
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<v Speaker 2>there in Mexico we shot a rosarted beach weren't the best.

470
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<v Speaker 2>They were not really qualified and we had some issues

471
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<v Speaker 2>with me when they came to my rescue. And because

472
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<v Speaker 2>of that, the stunt guys went on mute me and

473
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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't work until we got idea of a paramedics from

474
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<v Speaker 2>the US down there.

475
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<v Speaker 1>What was the stunt that you got?

476
00:22:05.039 --> 00:22:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Had it was one? It was? It was one of

477
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<v Speaker 2>the crazy guys at the top of the I started

478
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<v Speaker 2>at the top, you know, when it started to go

479
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<v Speaker 2>up like that. We had it on a what do

480
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<v Speaker 2>you call it? Oh, I'm trying to tall that kind

481
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<v Speaker 2>of liked that, yeah, but there's another word for it.

482
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<v Speaker 2>But anyways, it was on one of those pendulum things,

483
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<v Speaker 2>was up like this, but we were doing slides in

484
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<v Speaker 2>the beginning, so we're probably at seventeen degrees. That's what

485
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<v Speaker 2>we rehearsed at and I was in control at seventeen.

486
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<v Speaker 2>But while we were filming take four, somebody got on

487
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<v Speaker 2>that Rhea stat and bumped it up a little bit

488
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<v Speaker 2>too high. I don't know, I don't know who did it,

489
00:22:39.279 --> 00:22:43.000
<v Speaker 2>but I wish I could. Anyways, eight people got hurt

490
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<v Speaker 2>on that one take. So we got up a little

491
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<v Speaker 2>too high and people were flying and I went into

492
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<v Speaker 2>the pads. But a guy right behind me with his

493
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<v Speaker 2>knee coming down at twenty five miles an hour, I

494
00:22:55.039 --> 00:22:57.799
<v Speaker 2>was like this, he hit me right there, and I

495
00:22:57.839 --> 00:23:01.559
<v Speaker 2>could hear him crack. Yeah, and then what was it?

496
00:23:01.640 --> 00:23:04.359
<v Speaker 2>Was there? Then another guy came after him, so I

497
00:23:04.440 --> 00:23:07.480
<v Speaker 2>was just double and deemity on my ribs. So it

498
00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:10.720
<v Speaker 2>was bad. I was out for eight weeks. I don't

499
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<v Speaker 2>wish ribs on anybody. You can't do anything.

500
00:23:13.759 --> 00:23:18.519
<v Speaker 1>I broke ribs three years ago. I did. I fell

501
00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:21.480
<v Speaker 1>in the bathroom here rescuing a spider from the ceiling.

502
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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it wasn't good.

503
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<v Speaker 2>No, because you can't. You have to sleep at a

504
00:23:25.880 --> 00:23:29.400
<v Speaker 2>forty five degree angle. You can't do anything, if you

505
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<v Speaker 2>know what I.

506
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<v Speaker 1>Mean, I mean you literally, I mean I'm lucky, man,

507
00:23:32.839 --> 00:23:36.400
<v Speaker 1>I've got enough pillows in this house. Literally. And then

508
00:23:36.400 --> 00:23:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I wore an airline, you know, neck brace around and

509
00:23:39.599 --> 00:23:42.200
<v Speaker 1>that's how I tried to sleep for literally two months.

510
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<v Speaker 2>It was.

511
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<v Speaker 1>It was pretty grim as you as you can.

512
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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah, no, it's not it's not good.

513
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<v Speaker 1>Very painful. And I had a bruise the size of

514
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<v Speaker 1>Alaska down the side that was just black and blue.

515
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<v Speaker 1>And I would not be a stunt man. I have

516
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<v Speaker 1>to say, yeah, if I snag a nail, yeah, I

517
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<v Speaker 1>don't like it.

518
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<v Speaker 2>We don't like getting hurt because we want to work

519
00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:05.880
<v Speaker 2>the next day. And but I will say this, I

520
00:24:05.920 --> 00:24:07.359
<v Speaker 2>was thinking, you know, like I don't want to hit

521
00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:10.319
<v Speaker 2>the ground now, concrete I hate, But back in my

522
00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:14.680
<v Speaker 2>twenties and thirties, I loved it. I loved fighting, hitting

523
00:24:14.720 --> 00:24:17.400
<v Speaker 2>the ground, doing, doing all that stuff I was. I

524
00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:19.200
<v Speaker 2>had that. I guess I had that gene that that

525
00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:23.200
<v Speaker 2>dad had. I had this, not recklessness, but this you know,

526
00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:27.559
<v Speaker 2>running excitement and uh uh you know that exciting factor,

527
00:24:27.720 --> 00:24:29.440
<v Speaker 2>that fear factor or whatever you want to call it,

528
00:24:29.559 --> 00:24:34.279
<v Speaker 2>fearlessness and yeah, and the applause as he was, Yeah,

529
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's great, and you know, getting this fifty

530
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<v Speaker 2>year token, the gold yeah thing. It was my first

531
00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:46.680
<v Speaker 2>ever ever standing ovation. I've never had the most amazing

532
00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:49.559
<v Speaker 2>thing to be recognized for my work and to have

533
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<v Speaker 2>people from the Academy all stand up, Oh my god,

534
00:24:53.000 --> 00:24:54.119
<v Speaker 2>it was Well, there.

535
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<v Speaker 1>You're the first stunt killed and get this award on you.

536
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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that amazing. It's amazing that you are the first.

537
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<v Speaker 1>But it's you know, certainly applause for you.

538
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<v Speaker 2>Oh and here's another one for you, Star Trek Enterprise.

539
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<v Speaker 2>You got a nomination for Outstanding Stunt Coordination for the

540
00:25:12.200 --> 00:25:13.400
<v Speaker 2>fourth fourth season.

541
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<v Speaker 1>Simple we lost out to Deadwood, didn't we which.

542
00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:21.720
<v Speaker 2>No it was, wasn't it Deadwood? No, it was the

543
00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:24.200
<v Speaker 2>other one, the one that keeper was a Keeper souther

544
00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:27.799
<v Speaker 2>one was going four. I think it was twenty four.

545
00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:29.519
<v Speaker 2>I think it's twenty four.

546
00:25:31.119 --> 00:25:32.880
<v Speaker 1>There was Borderland and Coal Station.

547
00:25:33.279 --> 00:25:35.680
<v Speaker 2>You were able to put in two episodes, you because

548
00:25:35.680 --> 00:25:37.960
<v Speaker 2>it was considered a two parter. But back then they're

549
00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:40.920
<v Speaker 2>only allowing you one episode or a two partner. But

550
00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:44.119
<v Speaker 2>that Star Trek is still the only one in the

551
00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:47.200
<v Speaker 2>franchise Star Trek history that has been nominated for an

552
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<v Speaker 2>Outstanding Stunt Coordination Emmy.

553
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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

554
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<v Speaker 1>And another bit of trivia, your dad is one of

555
00:25:53.559 --> 00:25:57.400
<v Speaker 1>five people that have been in the original series and

556
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<v Speaker 1>Star Trek Enterprise. Look at that right.

557
00:26:02.640 --> 00:26:05.119
<v Speaker 2>And then here he is on with the Shatner and

558
00:26:05.559 --> 00:26:06.759
<v Speaker 2>Jeane Roddenberry's wife.

559
00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Majel Majel Barras.

560
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<v Speaker 2>And he's the first first uh richert to get killed.

561
00:26:13.640 --> 00:26:15.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean there's arguments that's a first or second, but

562
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<v Speaker 2>if you look at most of the websites, he's the

563
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<v Speaker 2>first red Shirt to get killed on start on that show.

564
00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:23.079
<v Speaker 1>He started a craze.

565
00:26:23.240 --> 00:26:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, he doubled. I don't know if you

566
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<v Speaker 2>ever watched any of the originals, but there was a

567
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<v Speaker 2>one called Short Leave with Finnegan the Irish. Yeah, my

568
00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:36.279
<v Speaker 2>dad doubled him on that for the fight between him

569
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<v Speaker 2>and Shatner. He did it at Vasquez Rocks, right.

570
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<v Speaker 1>That's that was the famous filming place. Yeah, the one

571
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<v Speaker 1>of five. There's major Clint Howard who is Ron's brother. Yeah,

572
00:26:58.039 --> 00:27:03.559
<v Speaker 1>Joseph Resnick or something. Oh yeah, yeah, uh uh and

573
00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Jack Donna who I don't know, but they were. They

574
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<v Speaker 1>were in the original and our show. I want to

575
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<v Speaker 1>find a little bit of trip there. Hey everyone, Connor

576
00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Trenier here.

577
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<v Speaker 2>Hey guys, Dominic Keating here.

578
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<v Speaker 1>We want to thank you all for tuning into our

579
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580
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581
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584
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585
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586
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588
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589
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591
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592
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<v Speaker 4>The same time.

594
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<v Speaker 2>And you know new.

595
00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:01.519
<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about Heat. Michael Mann's movie that had

596
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<v Speaker 1>a boatload of stunts, so I'm sure did.

597
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<v Speaker 2>I was the I don't know if you've probably yeah,

598
00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:08.960
<v Speaker 2>you've seen the movie. But I'm the drive in driver

599
00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:12.359
<v Speaker 2>at the Sentinel, a drive in that brings the money in.

600
00:28:13.440 --> 00:28:15.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm in the white pickup truck and I pull up

601
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:18.079
<v Speaker 2>next to De Naro and I handled the money and

602
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:20.160
<v Speaker 2>there's that interaction and then the bad guy gets out

603
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:22.000
<v Speaker 2>with the gun and tries to shoot De Narrow and

604
00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:24.480
<v Speaker 2>then Val Kilmer tries to shoot me, and the one

605
00:28:24.480 --> 00:28:26.480
<v Speaker 2>that really gets me is Tom Sizemore at the end.

606
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<v Speaker 2>But funny story on that. Michael Mann was the director

607
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:34.279
<v Speaker 2>and he had this huge crany with his camera up high,

608
00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:37.799
<v Speaker 2>like two hundred feet and that starts the thing. So literally,

609
00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:40.599
<v Speaker 2>there's only one car in the middle of the driving

610
00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:42.839
<v Speaker 2>and that's Denial and he's already in the car sitting

611
00:28:43.160 --> 00:28:44.880
<v Speaker 2>and here they wanted to do a rehearsals, so I

612
00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:47.400
<v Speaker 2>come in nice and sow like man said, with my

613
00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:49.880
<v Speaker 2>white pickup truck, come right up next to him, roll

614
00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:56.000
<v Speaker 2>down the window and I look at him. I go Bob, Robert, Bobby,

615
00:28:56.680 --> 00:29:00.599
<v Speaker 2>and he goes Bob and that broke the ice. And

616
00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:02.640
<v Speaker 2>then that's how we had our nice little scene and

617
00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:06.319
<v Speaker 2>get killed and I had to run in with Tom Sizemore.

618
00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:08.519
<v Speaker 2>He got a little heated.

619
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<v Speaker 4>A lot of folks you've had run into Tom.

620
00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he get he was a little uh cranked up.

621
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<v Speaker 1>Not just as an act road restless.

622
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<v Speaker 3>I have a question for you, Vince, So as a

623
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<v Speaker 3>stunt coordinator, how does this work in terms of shooting

624
00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:28.240
<v Speaker 3>a shot? So I imagine as a coordinator you've got to

625
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:33.319
<v Speaker 3>have conversations pre shoot with the DP. You've got to

626
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:37.480
<v Speaker 3>have an idea about kind of every element that's going

627
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:41.920
<v Speaker 3>to be taking place in that scene to put your

628
00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:43.240
<v Speaker 3>work into it.

629
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's all the prep.

630
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, how does how does that go?

631
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<v Speaker 2>Well? I got I started in with the production meetings

632
00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:50.039
<v Speaker 2>where we have the scripts and we go page one,

633
00:29:50.119 --> 00:29:52.519
<v Speaker 2>page two, we just talk about eat it. And when

634
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<v Speaker 2>there's a sequence of action, I'll get all department hit

635
00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:58.920
<v Speaker 2>heads involved in it, especially the ones that I need

636
00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:03.200
<v Speaker 2>like a prop department or set decorating, you know, for breakaways,

637
00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:05.880
<v Speaker 2>what have you, and special effects. And we'll just all

638
00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:08.640
<v Speaker 2>have with these little side meetings after the production meeting,

639
00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:11.720
<v Speaker 2>and then I'll try to work with Mary who's budgeting

640
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:14.640
<v Speaker 2>the show or outlining the show. I'll try and say, hey,

641
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<v Speaker 2>can we put the action near the end, Especially if

642
00:30:16.599 --> 00:30:19.240
<v Speaker 2>it's a big, big fight like Harbinger, I'll say, let's

643
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:21.799
<v Speaker 2>put that towards the end of the schedule if we can.

644
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:25.359
<v Speaker 2>Gives us more time to rehearse. And so it's all

645
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:27.119
<v Speaker 2>it's all in the prep. It's all in the breakdown.

646
00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:31.480
<v Speaker 2>It's a there's a lot to it. Prep production meetings.

647
00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:33.839
<v Speaker 2>You got to go to. You got to get your

648
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:36.279
<v Speaker 2>stunt guys. You got to make sure it's safe. You

649
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:38.359
<v Speaker 2>got to put in budget stunt budgets. You got to

650
00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:41.559
<v Speaker 2>get together with Marvin, our Marvin Brush was our DP.

651
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<v Speaker 2>We'd have a little talk a lot of times, though

652
00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:46.799
<v Speaker 2>that guy is filming, so we didn't have that quality

653
00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:48.480
<v Speaker 2>time until day of No.

654
00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember, No, he wasn't. We had one day

655
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<v Speaker 1>to rehearse the Harbinger. We have a long, twelve fourteen

656
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<v Speaker 1>hour day. I remember one day, very long day until then,

657
00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:00.799
<v Speaker 1>and then again at twelve fourteen hour day shooting it

658
00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:01.920
<v Speaker 1>the fall the next day.

659
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:04.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we got in there a day before you guys,

660
00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:06.920
<v Speaker 2>just the doubles and just got stuff on camera, you know,

661
00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:09.720
<v Speaker 2>with my video camera and just to get some because

662
00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:12.880
<v Speaker 2>I would the fight started and worked its way from

663
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:15.119
<v Speaker 2>here all the way to there. So we had the

664
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<v Speaker 2>beginning and and then walked with David Livingston I think

665
00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:20.759
<v Speaker 2>it was our director on that episode. Yes, right, okay,

666
00:31:20.839 --> 00:31:22.680
<v Speaker 2>so we go over that and then we just get

667
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:25.599
<v Speaker 2>his input and he'd say, yes, this is great, fantastic.

668
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, can we add this or take that away?

669
00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Can we spend a little bit of more time in year?

670
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:32.119
<v Speaker 2>So it's just fine tuning at that point and hopefully

671
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:33.799
<v Speaker 2>when you guys come in the next day, we're ready

672
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:35.799
<v Speaker 2>for you and we get that time to rehearse.

673
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:38.920
<v Speaker 3>And who determines who signs off on that is that

674
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:40.200
<v Speaker 3>you as the coordinator.

675
00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:43.920
<v Speaker 4>Does it go upstairs? That's something like you videotape, Oh

676
00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:44.519
<v Speaker 4>I see, yeah.

677
00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:49.000
<v Speaker 2>No, A lot of times that show they didn't really

678
00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:51.039
<v Speaker 2>sign off on it. They just would let me do

679
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:54.359
<v Speaker 2>what I wanted to do. It was pretty cool. Very

680
00:31:54.359 --> 00:31:58.000
<v Speaker 2>few times I would rehearse things videotape them. This was

681
00:31:58.480 --> 00:32:02.480
<v Speaker 2>we were using videotape back for rehearsals. But it never

682
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:05.200
<v Speaker 2>really went past for me to look at it night

683
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:09.839
<v Speaker 2>or you know, just to study with my doubles special effects.

684
00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:13.880
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, did they approached you when they wanted you

685
00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:15.279
<v Speaker 1>for the series.

686
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:17.640
<v Speaker 2>That's a great story. So I have to go back

687
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:21.519
<v Speaker 2>to mcgiver. Mary Howard was our second ad on that show.

688
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Mary Howard and Jerry Fleck. You remember Jerry Harry was

689
00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:29.799
<v Speaker 2>the first day D, the last beautiful guy, so he

690
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:32.799
<v Speaker 2>was our first a D. Mary was there. So anyways,

691
00:32:33.480 --> 00:32:35.960
<v Speaker 2>that ended in what ninety one? So all of a sudden,

692
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:39.319
<v Speaker 2>nine years later, I just lost a feature. I was

693
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:41.279
<v Speaker 2>up for a big feature at Universal and I lost it.

694
00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:44.960
<v Speaker 2>I went in to meet the director, Levy. What's his name,

695
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:50.160
<v Speaker 2>Levy first name. He's been very popular director now he

696
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:52.920
<v Speaker 2>does a lot of stuff, lost the gigs. I'm driving

697
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:55.440
<v Speaker 2>my kids to school one morning and I'm going, God,

698
00:32:55.799 --> 00:32:58.160
<v Speaker 2>I lost a summer job and I was going to

699
00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:00.240
<v Speaker 2>be three months of work at Universal, And all of

700
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:03.240
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, I hear on the radio on kN X,

701
00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:07.640
<v Speaker 2>Hey they're doing a spin off another Star Trek series,

702
00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:09.799
<v Speaker 2>and they didn't call it Enterprise, and they didn't call

703
00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:13.400
<v Speaker 2>it anything. And I said, ooh to myself, the thing

704
00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:15.960
<v Speaker 2>I'll see. I know Mary and Jerry work on it.

705
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:19.839
<v Speaker 2>I'll send a resume and a little note to them saying, hey,

706
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:23.680
<v Speaker 2>I hear you got this new show. If I see

707
00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:25.799
<v Speaker 2>there was a coordinator on the other ones. But I

708
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:27.440
<v Speaker 2>thought they were going to do two at the same time.

709
00:33:27.480 --> 00:33:29.400
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was gonna be like another like two

710
00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:33.160
<v Speaker 2>shows I did DS nine and Voyager. So I set

711
00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:35.640
<v Speaker 2>it up and nothing nothing for two months, month and

712
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:38.839
<v Speaker 2>a half, two months, not a thing, And then a

713
00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:41.240
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, my daughter says, hey, you got a

714
00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:43.400
<v Speaker 2>phone call. I didn't hear that. I was outside watching

715
00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:47.640
<v Speaker 2>my car. Mary stayed on the phone ten minutes waiting

716
00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:50.039
<v Speaker 2>for me to come in because she hit tariff. Went

717
00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:52.799
<v Speaker 2>outside again, said hey, Mary Howard is still on the

718
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:54.920
<v Speaker 2>phone for you. I said, how long has that been?

719
00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:57.519
<v Speaker 2>She said at least ten minutes. Oh no, she didn't

720
00:33:57.519 --> 00:33:59.079
<v Speaker 2>hang up. If she had hung up, that would have been.

721
00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:01.680
<v Speaker 1>It always guys, Marry how It doesn't wait ten minutes

722
00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:02.720
<v Speaker 1>on the phone for many.

723
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:05.559
<v Speaker 2>People, but she did for me, And so I went

724
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:08.119
<v Speaker 2>in there and I was supposed to meet with Rick

725
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Berman and Brandon Braga. She said, I'll be right back

726
00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:12.840
<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to bring them over to meet you.

727
00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:16.519
<v Speaker 2>And she came back ten minutes later, and she said,

728
00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:19.280
<v Speaker 2>they said, just hire them. And so I gave her

729
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:23.199
<v Speaker 2>a big hug and I said, I'm so thrilled. I'm happy,

730
00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:25.800
<v Speaker 2>and and I was only they put me on the

731
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:27.559
<v Speaker 2>pilot and then they were going to put me on

732
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:30.599
<v Speaker 2>as needed, like a daily here and there, daily there,

733
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:32.840
<v Speaker 2>And I said I can't do it. I said, you

734
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:34.360
<v Speaker 2>need me here all the time. You got to put

735
00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:37.239
<v Speaker 2>me on a weekly got it. So it was a nice,

736
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:38.480
<v Speaker 2>nice run the whole four year.

737
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:42.079
<v Speaker 1>Do you have an agent? Do some people having some of.

738
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:45.280
<v Speaker 2>The big big wigs, the big guys they do now,

739
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:48.119
<v Speaker 2>the ones that are doing feature after feature, they have agents.

740
00:34:48.199 --> 00:34:50.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I've never had one. I had a commercial agent,

741
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:52.000
<v Speaker 2>did a lot of commercials back in the day.

742
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:54.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. You and your BMW. Yeah the BMW.

743
00:34:56.280 --> 00:34:58.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. My Instagram is so much fun. It's got some

744
00:34:58.559 --> 00:34:59.320
<v Speaker 2>fun stuff on it.

745
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:01.519
<v Speaker 4>I scrolled the whole thing.

746
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:03.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh great, not only this.

747
00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:04.239
<v Speaker 4>Vince one.

748
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:09.440
<v Speaker 3>You know what, There are times when you come across someone,

749
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:12.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean and you know, I know you, I don't

750
00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:13.320
<v Speaker 3>know you very well.

751
00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:15.800
<v Speaker 2>We gotta we gotta get to know each other quite

752
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:19.400
<v Speaker 2>well when we're in Vegas. Yes, I'm going.

753
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:19.800
<v Speaker 1>To argue that.

754
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:23.400
<v Speaker 4>By the way, your Instagram is so extraordinary.

755
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:26.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like you know you how you express the

756
00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:29.760
<v Speaker 3>passing of friends that you've worked with and yeah own

757
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:34.440
<v Speaker 3>and then your pride in your your children and having

758
00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:36.679
<v Speaker 3>a grand baby, and the way in which you.

759
00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:43.559
<v Speaker 4>Express yourself. I have to say, man, it gave me like, yeah, awesome,

760
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:46.039
<v Speaker 4>You're a you know what, You're a good human.

761
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:49.079
<v Speaker 2>I am a good human. Yeah, I am good? Yeah,

762
00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:49.679
<v Speaker 2>I am.

763
00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:52.639
<v Speaker 1>I remember. I mean we were working with you. It

764
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:54.719
<v Speaker 1>was always a joy. Do you remember the time the

765
00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:58.639
<v Speaker 1>three of us, me, Conor and Anthony, we went around

766
00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:01.880
<v Speaker 1>your place to talk about doing it in the backyard.

767
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:03.239
<v Speaker 1>You told us how to repel.

768
00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:06.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh did we wait? Do it? So we went up

769
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:08.760
<v Speaker 2>to the mountains. Yeah you have?

770
00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Didn't you have? Didn't We go to your place and

771
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:14.599
<v Speaker 1>you had some sort of you know, scaffolding structure.

772
00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:17.480
<v Speaker 2>That it was a friend of mine, was it? We met?

773
00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:19.360
<v Speaker 2>I think we started to meet over there. Then we

774
00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:22.400
<v Speaker 2>went to the uh to Stony Point to do our.

775
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:25.519
<v Speaker 4>Repelly right, like eighteen.

776
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:28.440
<v Speaker 2>It's like out there, that's where Charlie Manson used to

777
00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:32.039
<v Speaker 2>hang out. Yes, no kidding, Yeah, a lot of story,

778
00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:35.639
<v Speaker 2>a lot of skeletons there. But I have all the

779
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:37.880
<v Speaker 2>video from that. You'd love to see it. I got

780
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:39.719
<v Speaker 2>all the behind the scenes of you coming down doing

781
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:40.960
<v Speaker 2>the repelling and oh.

782
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:43.119
<v Speaker 1>Well you'll have to. I'm going to get Sarah to

783
00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:43.719
<v Speaker 1>get in touch.

784
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:44.280
<v Speaker 2>My wife.

785
00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Reddit's these things. We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll put some of

786
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:47.519
<v Speaker 1>that stuff in.

787
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:51.159
<v Speaker 2>We all love it. A little bit more of a lane.

788
00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:54.599
<v Speaker 2>That's good. That's good. Stop there, Anthony looking this way,

789
00:36:55.000 --> 00:37:07.960
<v Speaker 2>looking there? Okay, good and then exit. Boy, you picked

790
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:10.599
<v Speaker 2>this up pretty quick. Now you got a big outcropping here.

791
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:13.119
<v Speaker 2>Take your time, take your time, take your time.

792
00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:14.360
<v Speaker 3>You can do it.

793
00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:18.760
<v Speaker 2>God, take your time. Yeah that's good.

794
00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:23.400
<v Speaker 4>That next time.

795
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a whole new deal.

796
00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:28.320
<v Speaker 3>You told me this very early on, because you know,

797
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:32.519
<v Speaker 3>we got into the show. We're all young, fit having

798
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:34.320
<v Speaker 3>a great time, and I was like, I want to

799
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:35.480
<v Speaker 3>do all my stunts.

800
00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:38.679
<v Speaker 4>I don't care. I want to do all my stunts.

801
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:42.440
<v Speaker 3>And then one day I forget it was early episode

802
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:44.920
<v Speaker 3>and you walked up to me and you were like,

803
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:47.320
<v Speaker 3>I think that's fantastic that you want to do this,

804
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:49.480
<v Speaker 3>and you should do whatever you want.

805
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:50.280
<v Speaker 4>But I just want to.

806
00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:54.800
<v Speaker 3>Tell you something that if you do a stunt, my

807
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:58.159
<v Speaker 3>stunt guy doesn't get paid. And I was like, well

808
00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:03.039
<v Speaker 3>done done. Yeah, I'm not going to waste anybody's time.

809
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:05.239
<v Speaker 3>Let let's get the work. I mean, like, you know,

810
00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:07.519
<v Speaker 3>don't just sit there. You're there for a reason.

811
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:08.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

812
00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:12.440
<v Speaker 3>I had to get my ego shifted in a way

813
00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:15.280
<v Speaker 3>specifically about you know, like being on a new show

814
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:18.360
<v Speaker 3>and all that. And I learned that was such a

815
00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:20.280
<v Speaker 3>great lesson that you talked to me, and I've used

816
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:21.199
<v Speaker 3>that forever.

817
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:23.400
<v Speaker 2>One of the things one of the things I've learned

818
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:26.239
<v Speaker 2>real quick over the years with all with actors is

819
00:38:26.280 --> 00:38:28.519
<v Speaker 2>that they do they want to do as much as

820
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:30.360
<v Speaker 2>they can and I and I also tell them and

821
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:32.599
<v Speaker 2>I may have told you this too. The thing is

822
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:34.159
<v Speaker 2>I have to I have to be the bad guy

823
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:37.480
<v Speaker 2>sometimes to say no, you're not doing this because uh not,

824
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:39.239
<v Speaker 2>you may be able to do it, but what if

825
00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:41.920
<v Speaker 2>you What if you or that person gets really hurt

826
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:44.920
<v Speaker 2>and we're down and we're down, and I'm going to

827
00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:46.960
<v Speaker 2>take the hit for that because I've got I was

828
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:48.760
<v Speaker 2>the one that agreed to let that person do it,

829
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:50.679
<v Speaker 2>and so I have to I have to weigh that.

830
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes the things that always scared me were the fights.

831
00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:57.480
<v Speaker 2>The fights always scared me because of the punches. I

832
00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:00.000
<v Speaker 2>can't I The thing is, I couldn't get in there

833
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:02.440
<v Speaker 2>fast enough to stop a punch of somebody leaned into one,

834
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Like what happened to you with your head butt? Yeah,

835
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:06.480
<v Speaker 2>you know I could. There's no way I can get

836
00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:09.480
<v Speaker 2>to you. So those kinds of fights are frightening because

837
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:12.239
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of people don't think about that, but

838
00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:14.400
<v Speaker 2>it's it's you know, you take a hit like that

839
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:16.519
<v Speaker 2>like I took from my dad, and that wasn't even

840
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:17.199
<v Speaker 2>at full speed.

841
00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:20.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, to your point, the reality is is like

842
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:22.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, that night we were doing something and a

843
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:26.880
<v Speaker 3>guy who was I forget his name's uh stunting for

844
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:28.320
<v Speaker 3>uh John.

845
00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:30.840
<v Speaker 4>You know, there's the thing.

846
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:32.719
<v Speaker 3>You can see it, you can tell, you know exactly

847
00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:35.280
<v Speaker 3>what's going on because it's a choreography.

848
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:39.599
<v Speaker 4>You can tell when somebody's eyes disappear. Yes, and he.

849
00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:43.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what happened the distance whatever he had

850
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:47.320
<v Speaker 3>the helmet on, yeah, and looked at me because you know,

851
00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:49.840
<v Speaker 3>you can't head some head butt somebody with your arms

852
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:50.559
<v Speaker 3>straight out locked.

853
00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:52.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but he did and.

854
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:55.199
<v Speaker 3>He went in and but and the truth and the

855
00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:57.800
<v Speaker 3>reality is is that, yeah, I mean whatever, I got

856
00:39:57.880 --> 00:39:58.639
<v Speaker 3>three stitches.

857
00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:01.000
<v Speaker 4>Who cares? But it eight hours?

858
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:01.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

859
00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:06.760
<v Speaker 1>I remember when we did the big fight with Steve Culpringer,

860
00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Am I right in saying? Because I was looking this

861
00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:11.880
<v Speaker 1>up and I didn't see it nosed anywhere. I remember

862
00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:14.679
<v Speaker 1>you coming to me and giving me a Stunt Association cap,

863
00:40:14.840 --> 00:40:20.559
<v Speaker 1>which I still very proudly have. And I think I

864
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:23.880
<v Speaker 1>remember you telling me that that year we lost out

865
00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:29.719
<v Speaker 1>at the I guess the NATAS Awards. We came second

866
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:34.360
<v Speaker 1>for that fight. Coordination to the Bourne identity is that?

867
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:38.599
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I remember something like that. I'm trying to go

868
00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:41.679
<v Speaker 2>back and that's right, Okay, a great fight.

869
00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:45.480
<v Speaker 1>But I remember Steve culp had had taken one on

870
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:50.559
<v Speaker 1>the chin in a fight not too long before. Really,

871
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:52.320
<v Speaker 1>wasn't he.

872
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:54.440
<v Speaker 2>He was very gun shy, yes, because and he kept

873
00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:56.480
<v Speaker 2>talking me every time he'd come back we had fights.

874
00:40:56.519 --> 00:40:58.960
<v Speaker 2>He would say, I just want to you know, remember

875
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:02.599
<v Speaker 2>I got hit by a stunt guy on another show,

876
00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:04.440
<v Speaker 2>and I just want to make sure we're good and

877
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:05.239
<v Speaker 2>I said, we'll be good.

878
00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:08.360
<v Speaker 1>But the hell of a fight. My who was my guy?

879
00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Marm Martin Murray, Martin Murray, he really made me look good.

880
00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:14.559
<v Speaker 2>Lately, I don't know where he is he.

881
00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:18.760
<v Speaker 1>I remember in and off when we were off season

882
00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:24.880
<v Speaker 1>he went on doubled Taby McGuire Sea Biscuit. He was

883
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>as tough as nails. Marty Murray.

884
00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:28.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was broke.

885
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I think every rib in his body. A horse kicked him.

886
00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:35.679
<v Speaker 1>Not really beat up, he got thoroughly beat up. Yeah,

887
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:38.119
<v Speaker 1>but he was a lovely chat. Is he still still around?

888
00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Is he?

889
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:40.840
<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen him in a long time, so it

890
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:43.320
<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean anything. He might be. A lot of shows

891
00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:45.599
<v Speaker 2>are now in Atlanta, so there's a lot of guys

892
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:47.519
<v Speaker 2>there now in Atlanta, I think in an How we're

893
00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:51.079
<v Speaker 2>still in Vancouver again and uh with the Toronto so

894
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:54.400
<v Speaker 2>we're kind of spread out. I got one Do you

895
00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:59.159
<v Speaker 2>remember this thing? Do you remember these?

896
00:41:59.880 --> 00:42:02.159
<v Speaker 1>I half remember that. What is that? Is that like

897
00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:03.320
<v Speaker 1>a grenade thing? We had?

898
00:42:03.519 --> 00:42:07.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Those are the manes. I got one of these.

899
00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:09.119
<v Speaker 2>They gave me one of these. And I don't even

900
00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:17.480
<v Speaker 2>know if this works. I hope, but yeah, no, it's

901
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:19.840
<v Speaker 2>and then Uh, I'll just real quick what I got you.

902
00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:22.639
<v Speaker 2>I was looking at some pictures the first you know,

903
00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:24.960
<v Speaker 2>when we had to get doubles for everybody the first season.

904
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:31.119
<v Speaker 2>This week when you guys were there, I had polaroids, gone.

905
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:34.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, am I doing that?

906
00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:40.440
<v Speaker 2>And then there's uh Connor, these are these.

907
00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:43.239
<v Speaker 4>Are like Now, I gotta tell you, that's what that

908
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:46.280
<v Speaker 4>young man watched. I watched the dailies so that I

909
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:47.519
<v Speaker 4>do moves like that.

910
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:51.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good times.

911
00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:56.519
<v Speaker 1>He loved a bit of hands on hip acting. He did.

912
00:42:56.840 --> 00:43:01.960
<v Speaker 1>He did better good hands on hip act. What's what

913
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:05.800
<v Speaker 1>is the workload like when you're when you're responsible for

914
00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:10.119
<v Speaker 1>a series like Enterprise? I mean, is it is it intense?

915
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:14.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean it is because anything can happen. Anything, Anything

916
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:19.280
<v Speaker 2>can happen, like an accident in a serious one or

917
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:22.440
<v Speaker 2>something that effects that's too big, you know, if I'm

918
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:23.119
<v Speaker 2>pretty did.

919
00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Anyone get hurt that we can recall on our show?

920
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:28.119
<v Speaker 2>The knocked out one guy at the very end of

921
00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:30.880
<v Speaker 2>the last season, one of my stunt guys, and it

922
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:33.599
<v Speaker 2>was a it was a weird and this is what happened.

923
00:43:33.639 --> 00:43:37.159
<v Speaker 2>It shouldn't have happened, but because he was wearing a

924
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:39.000
<v Speaker 2>wig that went down. He played some kind of alien

925
00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:41.800
<v Speaker 2>that had a wig that went way down past his butt.

926
00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:43.840
<v Speaker 2>And you know all the remember all the cable polls

927
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:47.199
<v Speaker 2>we used to do where people fly back in the air. Okay, Well,

928
00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:48.840
<v Speaker 2>when they land, a lot of times they land on

929
00:43:48.880 --> 00:43:51.920
<v Speaker 2>their butt first and then scrap a on the ground. Well,

930
00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:54.840
<v Speaker 2>what happened with him when he got pulled back? His

931
00:43:54.519 --> 00:43:58.880
<v Speaker 2>wig was down low and when he landed on his butt,

932
00:43:59.320 --> 00:44:01.719
<v Speaker 2>he caught that wig and then that just did that

933
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:05.559
<v Speaker 2>to us net and knocked him out. And well, sad

934
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:07.639
<v Speaker 2>about it when he came to. I mean, we laugh

935
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:09.199
<v Speaker 2>about it now. But when he came to, he just

936
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:13.000
<v Speaker 2>got married. He had a big honeymoon and everything. And

937
00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:14.800
<v Speaker 2>when he woke up and we finally got him to

938
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:18.360
<v Speaker 2>wake up, hey how are you doing okay? And we

939
00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:20.960
<v Speaker 2>talked about remember your wedding. You were talking about what wedding?

940
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:25.480
<v Speaker 2>He didn't he didn't know wedding, the honeymoon, And that's

941
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:27.239
<v Speaker 2>what happens a lot of times when you get knocked out.

942
00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:30.079
<v Speaker 2>That's happened to me, and so it finally it came back.

943
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:32.159
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, there's a.

944
00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:36.519
<v Speaker 3>What is there any point where like you know, for instance,

945
00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:39.199
<v Speaker 3>we're talking in the beginning of this about like you know,

946
00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:40.599
<v Speaker 3>eighty foot waterfall.

947
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:43.760
<v Speaker 4>We're both going to jump off the side. What do

948
00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:47.320
<v Speaker 4>you do? You ever say no, Yes, you can't do that.

949
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:51.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you do, do not many times, or or I'll

950
00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:54.159
<v Speaker 2>have to change it. But there's been times I walked away, Well,

951
00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:56.440
<v Speaker 2>I walked away from a show because it was just

952
00:44:57.039 --> 00:44:59.159
<v Speaker 2>not up to part. It was not a safe show.

953
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:03.519
<v Speaker 2>And I was back in the eighties. Uh, well it

954
00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:06.239
<v Speaker 2>was just before mcguiver, that's right, because right after that

955
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:08.880
<v Speaker 2>I got to I got the call for mcguiver. But yeah,

956
00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:11.199
<v Speaker 2>I was running the show and it was not safe.

957
00:45:11.400 --> 00:45:14.119
<v Speaker 2>The effects guys weren't doing a good job, and and

958
00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:18.440
<v Speaker 2>uh somebody got fell down, got hurt. Not bad, but

959
00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:20.880
<v Speaker 2>I could see the writing on the wall that was

960
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:23.239
<v Speaker 2>not This was not one of those warm and friendly,

961
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:26.199
<v Speaker 2>uh cozy feels. And I can feel that, I can

962
00:45:26.199 --> 00:45:30.199
<v Speaker 2>feel the energy of a crew and uh and if

963
00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:32.599
<v Speaker 2>I if there's a bad crew, I don't want to

964
00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:35.239
<v Speaker 2>be a part of that. But usually guys like Mary

965
00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:38.360
<v Speaker 2>and Brad they've crew up so nicely and they're they're

966
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:41.199
<v Speaker 2>responsible for good crews, and most up ms and ads

967
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:45.800
<v Speaker 2>and and producers will crew a good crew put.

968
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:47.280
<v Speaker 1>You on the spot. But can you sort of you know,

969
00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:50.960
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about rust for instance. Oh, that's sort of

970
00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:53.679
<v Speaker 1>I mean that should not happen in this day and age.

971
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:54.599
<v Speaker 1>Shouldn't I mean, no.

972
00:45:55.519 --> 00:46:00.360
<v Speaker 2>It shouldn't have happened. You know. Uh, I can't how

973
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:03.360
<v Speaker 2>many times I've been shot at and uh, you know,

974
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:08.079
<v Speaker 2>with blanks. But there's there's rules. There's rules where you

975
00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:11.320
<v Speaker 2>don't point when you're that close. I forget what the

976
00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:13.440
<v Speaker 2>limit is. I think it's like eight or ten feet

977
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:14.920
<v Speaker 2>or something like that. And a lot of times you

978
00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:16.320
<v Speaker 2>can change it with you know, you can change it

979
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:19.079
<v Speaker 2>with the camera position to make it look like you're

980
00:46:19.079 --> 00:46:21.639
<v Speaker 2>pointing at somebody, but you're actually pointing to the right

981
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:26.719
<v Speaker 2>of that person. That person was too close. And and

982
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:28.840
<v Speaker 2>then oh my god. Yeah there was a live round

983
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:30.559
<v Speaker 2>in there. Oh my god. And see this was the

984
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:34.760
<v Speaker 2>this was a perfect store. This was a low budget show,

985
00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:38.639
<v Speaker 2>and they were working long hours. Some people were working

986
00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:41.800
<v Speaker 2>multiple jobs. The armor was also the prop person. So

987
00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:44.199
<v Speaker 2>there was just so much going on. And that's one

988
00:46:44.199 --> 00:46:46.599
<v Speaker 2>of those bad juju shows you don't want to be.

989
00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:49.760
<v Speaker 2>And that's what happened that poor girl, she was a young.

990
00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Girl, wasn't she. Yeah. The van that she was working

991
00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:56.079
<v Speaker 1>out of had live Ammo in it.

992
00:46:56.440 --> 00:46:56.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

993
00:46:57.039 --> 00:46:59.559
<v Speaker 2>And you know, on a set, I can't tell you

994
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:01.639
<v Speaker 2>how many time have been I've had. You know, you

995
00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:05.719
<v Speaker 2>just you just uh, what's the word I want to use? Uh,

996
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:09.760
<v Speaker 2>you're when you're getting shot at and the facts man

997
00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:12.519
<v Speaker 2>and the prop guy says, okay, these are blanks. You

998
00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:14.559
<v Speaker 2>you you know you were with him. You know you

999
00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:17.800
<v Speaker 2>have a look, Yeah you look, but you you honor

1000
00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:18.400
<v Speaker 2>what he's saying.

1001
00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:21.800
<v Speaker 1>And you know these shows I've worked on where I've

1002
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:23.920
<v Speaker 1>had to shoot a gun or someone shot at me.

1003
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:28.440
<v Speaker 1>You everything stops, Yeah, and you know you shut up

1004
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:29.000
<v Speaker 1>and listen.

1005
00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:37.480
<v Speaker 2>So he's we had three people get killed by these things. Brandon, uh, Brandon, Yeah,

1006
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:41.559
<v Speaker 2>Bruce Friendly And then we had another guy where I

1007
00:47:41.559 --> 00:47:43.679
<v Speaker 2>can't remember Dave. It was a nice good looking actor

1008
00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:44.760
<v Speaker 2>over Fox Studios.

1009
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:47.840
<v Speaker 4>Uh Girl, the show is cover Girl Girl.

1010
00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Eric Hexham. Yeah, he had a revolver and he was

1011
00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:56.159
<v Speaker 2>just dicking around, I guess, and there was he did

1012
00:47:56.199 --> 00:47:58.199
<v Speaker 2>this to the gun and put it there and clicked

1013
00:47:58.199 --> 00:48:00.920
<v Speaker 2>it and had a it had had a uh I

1014
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:02.840
<v Speaker 2>think it probably a full load in there. You know,

1015
00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:06.440
<v Speaker 2>it went that load. You know, it takes that stuff

1016
00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:10.159
<v Speaker 2>right out. Well, even if Blake will kill you, it

1017
00:48:10.199 --> 00:48:12.320
<v Speaker 2>went right to the other side of his brain right,

1018
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:13.679
<v Speaker 2>very very sad.

1019
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:18.400
<v Speaker 3>Have there been scenarios where you have said, uh, no,

1020
00:48:18.599 --> 00:48:20.599
<v Speaker 3>it's not working or not doing it.

1021
00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, already mcgiver a couple of times. Yeah, and it

1022
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:28.039
<v Speaker 2>was bad communication. We had a deal where it was

1023
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:31.440
<v Speaker 2>a winter scene. We had a huge toboggan full of gold,

1024
00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:34.760
<v Speaker 2>the big gold bricks, and we were supposed to make

1025
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:37.639
<v Speaker 2>them out of like balsa wood or some kind of

1026
00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:41.239
<v Speaker 2>light product, and they made it out of this wood

1027
00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:44.920
<v Speaker 2>material that's denser than wood and heavy. And so when

1028
00:48:44.920 --> 00:48:47.360
<v Speaker 2>they had these four hundred bricks on this toboggan and

1029
00:48:47.480 --> 00:48:50.480
<v Speaker 2>people had to be standing watching it at them from

1030
00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:53.760
<v Speaker 2>one hundred feet, Uh, that was a death trap. I mean,

1031
00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:57.679
<v Speaker 2>way too heavy the weapon. Uh. And uh. We get

1032
00:48:57.719 --> 00:48:59.159
<v Speaker 2>out there to shoot it and I see it and

1033
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:01.119
<v Speaker 2>it looks beautiful. I said, oh great. I picked one

1034
00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:02.679
<v Speaker 2>up and I go, wait a minute. We had a

1035
00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:06.440
<v Speaker 2>discussion about this. These were supposed to be ten percent

1036
00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:08.880
<v Speaker 2>this weight. Oh well, I didn't get the note or

1037
00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:11.119
<v Speaker 2>whatever it was, so I said, well, we're not doing

1038
00:49:11.239 --> 00:49:14.119
<v Speaker 2>We canceled. We canceled that shot, which was a big cancel.

1039
00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:16.639
<v Speaker 2>It was a big cancer. But because we had three

1040
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:18.079
<v Speaker 2>people that had to dive out of the way at

1041
00:49:18.119 --> 00:49:21.119
<v Speaker 2>the last minute if they got hit by that, you

1042
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:21.840
<v Speaker 2>know one.

1043
00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:23.800
<v Speaker 4>And they had they'll kill you killed them.

1044
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:26.880
<v Speaker 2>So one of that was one of them. I probably

1045
00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:29.079
<v Speaker 2>had a few more in there. But you have to

1046
00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:30.000
<v Speaker 2>be you have a lot.

1047
00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Of pushback from producers when you when you start waiving

1048
00:49:33.760 --> 00:49:34.719
<v Speaker 1>the safety flag.

1049
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:37.320
<v Speaker 2>Not much back in the day. And you know, back

1050
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:39.519
<v Speaker 2>before we had safety meetings, it was a it was

1051
00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:42.480
<v Speaker 2>a different life back then in the seventies and eighties.

1052
00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Uh today the first a d and the stuff coordinator.

1053
00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:49.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean we have I worked on a Naked Gun

1054
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:54.320
<v Speaker 2>the movie just last year, and uhafety one safety meetings

1055
00:49:54.320 --> 00:49:57.119
<v Speaker 2>we had boom boom, boom boom. I mean, they're just

1056
00:49:57.159 --> 00:49:59.559
<v Speaker 2>they take up so much time. But it's but they

1057
00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:01.599
<v Speaker 2>do now. We didn't have those back in the day.

1058
00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:06.719
<v Speaker 2>I didn't. I don't remember safety meetings until like maybe

1059
00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:09.880
<v Speaker 2>mid nineties. Yeah, and so how would that.

1060
00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:13.400
<v Speaker 4>Work then, like would there you know, coordinators then have to.

1061
00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:16.480
<v Speaker 3>Be very very keen and very good and very specific

1062
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:19.320
<v Speaker 3>about what was safe or not right, because you know,

1063
00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:22.360
<v Speaker 3>you don't hear a lot about people dying on sets,

1064
00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:25.800
<v Speaker 3>but you're saying back in the day, there wasn't any

1065
00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:26.400
<v Speaker 3>meeting at all.

1066
00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:29.920
<v Speaker 2>No, not really, not if I if I can recall,

1067
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:32.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we might have like a small group, but

1068
00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:35.159
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't the whole. It wasn't bringing everybody over so

1069
00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:39.239
<v Speaker 2>everb had ears on it. It wasn't like that. And

1070
00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:43.360
<v Speaker 2>uh and sometimes that communicator, you know, because communication is paramount.

1071
00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:46.000
<v Speaker 2>That's that's the whole deal. If you don't have that,

1072
00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:49.039
<v Speaker 2>you don't have a you have unsafe conditions. And that's

1073
00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:52.159
<v Speaker 2>why it's so important today. The more communication you have,

1074
00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:53.880
<v Speaker 2>the more knowledge. Knowledge is power.

1075
00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:56.280
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, you think about like the.

1076
00:50:58.440 --> 00:51:02.440
<v Speaker 3>Well, the greatest I think sort of pursuit scene is

1077
00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:05.639
<v Speaker 3>from the French Connection, you know, and all that stuff

1078
00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:07.159
<v Speaker 3>in Queens and Brooklyn and stuff.

1079
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:09.679
<v Speaker 4>You're saying that there was they're just sort of flying

1080
00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:10.599
<v Speaker 4>on the seat of their pants.

1081
00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:13.000
<v Speaker 2>No. No, they would have their own meetings, you know,

1082
00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:17.480
<v Speaker 2>they'd have traffic crowd control, traffic control, they'd have cops,

1083
00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:20.440
<v Speaker 2>not as many as they do now, but they would

1084
00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:23.960
<v Speaker 2>sometimes Back those those days, I know I did it.

1085
00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:26.559
<v Speaker 2>We'd steal shots. We was meeting, we would go to

1086
00:51:26.639 --> 00:51:29.079
<v Speaker 2>locations where we didn't have a permit and get up

1087
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:33.599
<v Speaker 2>a dry real fast. And now today today that wouldn't happen.

1088
00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:36.559
<v Speaker 2>There's too much going on. But you know, it was

1089
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:39.320
<v Speaker 2>a it was a different it was a different time.

1090
00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

1091
00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:41.719
<v Speaker 2>And I go all the way back to six million

1092
00:51:41.719 --> 00:51:43.880
<v Speaker 2>dollars Man. I was the stand in for le majors

1093
00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:47.639
<v Speaker 2>on that we. I don't remember. Are we any any

1094
00:51:48.199 --> 00:51:50.920
<v Speaker 2>safety meetings? I mean very they weren't. They weren't anything

1095
00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:51.599
<v Speaker 2>like the art today.

1096
00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you remember your first ever stunt?

1097
00:51:55.760 --> 00:51:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes? I was. I talked about it when I, uh,

1098
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:02.519
<v Speaker 2>I got my fifty year thing. I said, one of

1099
00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:05.519
<v Speaker 2>my first stunts was on six million dollars Man, where

1100
00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:08.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm playing a guy at a computer and the computer

1101
00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:10.599
<v Speaker 2>falls on me and crushes me because they said, back

1102
00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:13.360
<v Speaker 2>then the computers were the size of refrigerators. So yeah,

1103
00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:15.840
<v Speaker 2>that whole thing came right down on me, and you know,

1104
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:18.320
<v Speaker 2>everybody clapped, they loved it. I mean it was a big,

1105
00:52:18.840 --> 00:52:21.000
<v Speaker 2>massive thing and it was pretty heavy.

1106
00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Was it was it actually a computer or did they know?

1107
00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Lights? All the lights, but all the gu on the

1108
00:52:26.440 --> 00:52:29.719
<v Speaker 2>back back then that all that hardware was heavy like a.

1109
00:52:29.760 --> 00:52:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Filing cabinet coming down.

1110
00:52:31.079 --> 00:52:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh, I'm talking about like a refrigerator definitely bigger

1111
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:36.159
<v Speaker 2>than me. Kidding, but that was one of my first

1112
00:52:36.199 --> 00:52:40.360
<v Speaker 2>and uh yeah, I did a few stunts on that show.

1113
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:42.960
<v Speaker 2>But the big the best show I had when my

1114
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:46.039
<v Speaker 2>early twenties was a show called Hardy Boys where I

1115
00:52:46.079 --> 00:52:49.320
<v Speaker 2>doubled the read Parker Stevenson on that and we shot

1116
00:52:49.320 --> 00:52:51.320
<v Speaker 2>a lot in a back lot of Universal Studios.

1117
00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:53.719
<v Speaker 1>So the Western, Yeah, boys were they? Was that in

1118
00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:54.280
<v Speaker 1>the Western?

1119
00:52:54.639 --> 00:52:57.239
<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, no, no, It's It's the It's the Heart.

1120
00:52:57.239 --> 00:52:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Was a detective show back in the back in seventy seven,

1121
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:03.199
<v Speaker 2>seventy eight, And these kids were I Sean Cassidy. You

1122
00:53:03.199 --> 00:53:07.119
<v Speaker 2>ever heard of him? Sure, Sean was really popular back then.

1123
00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:09.360
<v Speaker 2>He was a singer and what have you. Parker was

1124
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:11.880
<v Speaker 2>still he was good looking and all the girls just

1125
00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:14.760
<v Speaker 2>love these two. And so when they took the trams

1126
00:53:14.760 --> 00:53:17.320
<v Speaker 2>back the Universal trams back in the day, they trams

1127
00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:18.719
<v Speaker 2>that could go anywhere in the back of lot, and

1128
00:53:18.719 --> 00:53:21.519
<v Speaker 2>we were always filming there. So the double Bill and

1129
00:53:21.559 --> 00:53:23.719
<v Speaker 2>I would be dressed up like Parker and we looked

1130
00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:26.119
<v Speaker 2>like Parker and Sean. We'd come out and we'd look around,

1131
00:53:26.440 --> 00:53:28.719
<v Speaker 2>hi girls, and then they jump out of the trams

1132
00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:30.239
<v Speaker 2>and try and chase that run after us.

1133
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:33.239
<v Speaker 3>We'd hide at the back of Since you have good

1134
00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:35.440
<v Speaker 3>hair now, but I saw that picture of you and

1135
00:53:35.480 --> 00:53:37.199
<v Speaker 3>Parker Stevenson.

1136
00:53:36.599 --> 00:53:37.599
<v Speaker 4>Yeah you had.

1137
00:53:38.400 --> 00:53:41.559
<v Speaker 2>I think, I think that's a way, but I can't remember. Oh,

1138
00:53:41.639 --> 00:53:43.760
<v Speaker 2>really it might have been away. That's a lot of hair.

1139
00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Well. I was going to say, you have got very

1140
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:48.679
<v Speaker 1>good hairs. Still, man, I mean, what are you? Are

1141
00:53:48.719 --> 00:53:52.239
<v Speaker 1>you seventies something seventy one? Oh, bless man, I know.

1142
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:56.079
<v Speaker 2>It's I mean amazing. I was when we did Star Trek,

1143
00:53:56.440 --> 00:53:59.559
<v Speaker 2>I was wet in my mid forties, mid mid to

1144
00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:04.079
<v Speaker 2>eight I think, no even no, yes, was it five

1145
00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:04.760
<v Speaker 2>years ago? Yeah?

1146
00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:09.559
<v Speaker 1>Midway bang stunt told you doubled for Scott? Was that?

1147
00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Was that a sort of extra job as it?

1148
00:54:11.920 --> 00:54:14.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, that was a beautiful guy. Get another contract?

1149
00:54:14.760 --> 00:54:15.239
<v Speaker 2>It was great.

1150
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:15.679
<v Speaker 1>Cool.

1151
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:17.920
<v Speaker 2>And then when I doubled Fox, I was. I doubled

1152
00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:20.480
<v Speaker 2>John quite a bit, Oh, I was. I was. I

1153
00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:21.880
<v Speaker 2>didn't have an agent, so I had to take care

1154
00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:24.079
<v Speaker 2>of myself. So yeah, I got the weekly I got

1155
00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:26.360
<v Speaker 2>every time I doubled Scott, I got a daily, got

1156
00:54:26.360 --> 00:54:29.880
<v Speaker 2>a daily for John and it was great. Sometimes those that,

1157
00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:32.800
<v Speaker 2>especially in a double John, the overtime was insane with

1158
00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:35.559
<v Speaker 2>all that, you know, got all to get up. Yeah.

1159
00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:37.239
<v Speaker 4>Had you ever worked with Scott before?

1160
00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:40.400
<v Speaker 2>I had never worked with him. Never, No, And and

1161
00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:43.000
<v Speaker 2>I knew he had a double. Diamond was his double

1162
00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:45.960
<v Speaker 2>from way back when? And and I said, And he asked,

1163
00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:48.079
<v Speaker 2>and I said, I said, look, I don't know who

1164
00:54:48.119 --> 00:54:50.360
<v Speaker 2>you want diamond. If I can reach out to, he said,

1165
00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:52.800
<v Speaker 2>let's try and get Diamond. But Diamond was still on

1166
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:56.000
<v Speaker 2>n CIS at the time, so he had dimes. Said hey,

1167
00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:59.440
<v Speaker 2>you doubled, And I said, great, sure double yeah, bing

1168
00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:02.159
<v Speaker 2>ch chin cheat, Yeah. Yeah, it was great.

1169
00:55:02.239 --> 00:55:03.000
<v Speaker 4>It was a good guy.

1170
00:55:03.519 --> 00:55:05.320
<v Speaker 2>It was a great show. And you know, I don't

1171
00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:07.840
<v Speaker 2>know if you've ever seen it, but I put together

1172
00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:10.599
<v Speaker 2>a couple of highlight reels you know that I showed

1173
00:55:10.599 --> 00:55:11.840
<v Speaker 2>at the wrap parties. I don't know if you ever

1174
00:55:11.880 --> 00:55:34.519
<v Speaker 2>saw them, but they're really, really nice. But it's a

1175
00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:36.199
<v Speaker 2>great I have a great one and then the other

1176
00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:38.119
<v Speaker 2>one I have that I want to kind of keep under.

1177
00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:39.880
<v Speaker 2>I want to I want I don't want it to

1178
00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:42.360
<v Speaker 2>get out too much, but I it's the cast and

1179
00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:45.440
<v Speaker 2>crew music video that I put together. You guys were

1180
00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:46.480
<v Speaker 2>in it. By the way, I don't know if you

1181
00:55:46.519 --> 00:55:51.159
<v Speaker 2>remember that one where I remember, uh, Marvin Day when

1182
00:55:51.159 --> 00:55:52.920
<v Speaker 2>he's saying that song, got to give it up? You

1183
00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:57.079
<v Speaker 2>know that that dance, that party song. I use that.

1184
00:55:57.199 --> 00:56:00.000
<v Speaker 2>And I got everybody on video throughout a couple three

1185
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:02.920
<v Speaker 2>weeks with my little video camera, turned on my little

1186
00:56:02.960 --> 00:56:05.199
<v Speaker 2>caissette recorder and got people to do a little you know,

1187
00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:07.719
<v Speaker 2>little dance, little movement, and I put it into a

1188
00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:11.199
<v Speaker 2>nice five minute music video and it was the highlight

1189
00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:13.159
<v Speaker 2>of the rap party. They showed it at the season

1190
00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:16.079
<v Speaker 2>four finale Rap part. It was the first video they showed.

1191
00:56:16.599 --> 00:56:22.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, yeah, it's great. You're in it. You're you all.

1192
00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:24.880
<v Speaker 2>It was hard getting all of you together because you

1193
00:56:24.920 --> 00:56:27.239
<v Speaker 2>were you know you. It was crazy. You're always you're

1194
00:56:27.239 --> 00:56:30.199
<v Speaker 2>always filming or whatever, and there's no time. So I

1195
00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:33.440
<v Speaker 2>finally said that Marvin and Brad Brad, I gotta get this,

1196
00:56:33.519 --> 00:56:35.679
<v Speaker 2>got to get either. And so we got you all

1197
00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:39.440
<v Speaker 2>at the in the crew room there or whatever the

1198
00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:42.800
<v Speaker 2>ship and all of you dancing on the bridge. On

1199
00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:43.280
<v Speaker 2>the bridge.

1200
00:56:43.880 --> 00:56:46.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm so you did you did?

1201
00:56:46.920 --> 00:56:49.159
<v Speaker 2>You jumped on you did a some sideways stuff too.

1202
00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Pretty good.

1203
00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:54.280
<v Speaker 1>They were fun years.

1204
00:56:54.360 --> 00:56:57.199
<v Speaker 2>What they made, they were great years. I like I say,

1205
00:56:57.440 --> 00:57:01.039
<v Speaker 2>Paramount is my favorite studio. Uh, you know, I did

1206
00:57:01.079 --> 00:57:04.280
<v Speaker 2>a lot of shows there, a lot of shows. And

1207
00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:05.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go back there in a couple of

1208
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:09.199
<v Speaker 2>weeks to meet up with a producer that just have lunch.

1209
00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:11.800
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have lunch. And she wants to hear the

1210
00:57:11.880 --> 00:57:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Deadrick tour because I have a tour.

1211
00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:14.079
<v Speaker 3>I have.

1212
00:57:14.440 --> 00:57:18.079
<v Speaker 2>I have different areas, you know, Happy Days and Star

1213
00:57:18.159 --> 00:57:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Trek Original Star Trek. I have other shows that I did.

1214
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:25.119
<v Speaker 2>There a lot of shows and so you know, little moments.

1215
00:57:25.440 --> 00:57:27.719
<v Speaker 1>So my wife and I we just watched she'd never

1216
00:57:27.800 --> 00:57:30.639
<v Speaker 1>seen Sunset Boulevard and we just watched that the other

1217
00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Nyew just it is there, it is, I mean, where

1218
00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:37.800
<v Speaker 1>William Holden goes to see the girl to do the

1219
00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:40.639
<v Speaker 1>writing at night. That was right above my trailer, right

1220
00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:44.920
<v Speaker 1>above trailers there. It was amazing, she says, Reader's department.

1221
00:57:45.320 --> 00:57:48.840
<v Speaker 2>I remember my walls were covered with black pat letter.

1222
00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:53.679
<v Speaker 1>Y there it was.

1223
00:57:53.679 --> 00:57:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Was it on eighteen or was it eight and nine?

1224
00:57:55.559 --> 00:57:58.039
<v Speaker 1>Was it was that was above eight and nine?

1225
00:57:58.119 --> 00:58:03.480
<v Speaker 2>That she comes down the stairs right yeah, yeah, yeah.

1226
00:58:03.079 --> 00:58:07.320
<v Speaker 1>And uh and then she goes to see cecilb de

1227
00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:10.320
<v Speaker 1>Mill on stage eighteen and there it is. It's like, wow,

1228
00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:11.719
<v Speaker 1>where's mister Mill shooting?

1229
00:58:12.039 --> 00:58:18.760
<v Speaker 2>J and Misssbond. I know there's so much history there.

1230
00:58:18.800 --> 00:58:20.360
<v Speaker 1>Got to pinch yourself. You really do?

1231
00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:22.840
<v Speaker 2>You do? You do? We had a really bad rainstorm

1232
00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:25.559
<v Speaker 2>one year at stage of eight nine. We were underneath

1233
00:58:25.599 --> 00:58:28.920
<v Speaker 2>there was reading profusely, nobody was moving and I looked

1234
00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:31.079
<v Speaker 2>over at the drain with all the water coming out

1235
00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:33.239
<v Speaker 2>from up high, and I went to read at the

1236
00:58:33.360 --> 00:58:36.239
<v Speaker 2>edge of the drain, I see something shiny, like copper, shiny,

1237
00:58:36.599 --> 00:58:38.360
<v Speaker 2>and I picked it up and it was a nineteen

1238
00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:42.599
<v Speaker 2>thirty two penny. Shut up, sweet, I still have it.

1239
00:58:42.599 --> 00:58:46.280
<v Speaker 2>It's in my Yeah, that's awes. So, you know, some

1240
00:58:46.400 --> 00:58:48.320
<v Speaker 2>rep or somebody maybe she had it up there. I

1241
00:58:48.320 --> 00:58:50.679
<v Speaker 2>don't know what year she did that, A lucky penny,

1242
00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:51.480
<v Speaker 2>yeah thirty.

1243
00:58:51.679 --> 00:58:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Well it's but absolute joy seeing you again, mate, and yeah,

1244
00:58:55.639 --> 00:58:58.159
<v Speaker 1>thank you for coming on the show and showing some stories.

1245
00:58:58.840 --> 00:59:00.719
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having me. I hope to see both

1246
00:59:00.760 --> 00:59:01.480
<v Speaker 2>of you in Vegas.

1247
00:59:01.840 --> 00:59:04.679
<v Speaker 1>Well, well, definitely, we'll have a little drink together. And

1248
00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:07.320
<v Speaker 1>are you going for how many days? Are you going?

1249
00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:10.719
<v Speaker 2>Full? I'm gonna go Thursday I'll be there Thursday evening.

1250
00:59:10.840 --> 00:59:12.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't think i'll sign, but i'll be there Friday,

1251
00:59:12.840 --> 00:59:15.679
<v Speaker 2>all Friday and all Saturday. Okay, I'm going to some

1252
00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:17.239
<v Speaker 2>party you guys are having Saturday night.

1253
00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Who's hosting? Is it?

1254
00:59:18.480 --> 00:59:23.199
<v Speaker 2>Is it one of John's you know, Ryan p Husk? Yeah, yeah,

1255
00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:24.320
<v Speaker 2>something about a party.

1256
00:59:24.679 --> 00:59:26.559
<v Speaker 4>I can't wait to see you in person. It's so

1257
00:59:26.679 --> 00:59:28.920
<v Speaker 4>great to see your face. Yeah, it's good to see

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<v Speaker 4>you guys, and it's really nice.

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<v Speaker 2>I had enjoyable time talking to you guys, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>after all these years, it's it's really it's warm and friendly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, great, mane, I gotta say, I mean, how are

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<v Speaker 1>you feeling?

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<v Speaker 2>I feel good? Is okay? I do have mekey issues.

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<v Speaker 2>They're getting worse. That's bad because I sometimes I have

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<v Speaker 2>to turn like this my back lower back. But my

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<v Speaker 2>knees are great. My knees are good. You know, discocated

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<v Speaker 2>this twice the shoulder. I've had some head hits, some

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<v Speaker 2>pretty serious head the hats over the years, one where I.

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<v Speaker 1>Had an MRI scan to check that you know, everything's

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<v Speaker 1>all rising there.

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<v Speaker 2>In the brain. No, I probably do. My wife keeps

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<v Speaker 2>telling me I do, because skip it. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I had some. I won't go into that. I did

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<v Speaker 2>get hurt on the show and I hurt my kidney

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<v Speaker 2>real bad and they had to do MRI or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you call it on my on my back side here,

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<v Speaker 2>and he couldn't believe my back. He said, wow, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a nice roadman. Yeah. Yeah, you've seen some backs. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've been beat up pretty good. But I've been very seriously,

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<v Speaker 2>guys have been very very fortunate, very lucky. I've never

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<v Speaker 2>really spent many many I don't think i've spent the

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<v Speaker 2>night I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think I saw and as you say that, you've never

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<v Speaker 1>spent a nice and no, I've been there, admits it.

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<v Speaker 1>But let go that day.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that right, Yeah, god bless man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can't wait to see you in Vegas and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll raise a glass.

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<v Speaker 2>Somehow. I'll fight, fight, I'll text you, I get you.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, Conor, and I'll try so. You know, the two

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<v Speaker 1>saddest words in Hollywood are what party?

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see you there? Yeah, thank you, thank you much.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen up, boy.

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<v Speaker 3>Boy boy

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<v Speaker 2>Boy on