Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons. Throwing some ice,
mix in some vodka.
Speaker 2: A podcast from the Mac of All Trade Studio in
Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots jeep Ram.
Speaker 1: It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast. Well, hello and welcome.
Thanks for getting your pot on. Thanks for telling a friend.
That's how he spread the word about the pirate ship.
Kevin's been teasing me all week. I got somebody special
coming in on Thursday. I got somebody special coming So
now I get nervous about what what's gonna happen? Who's
it gonna be nervous for? I couldn't be more relieved
when I saw that it was Standley made. I told
you to be fine. I did, and I was like, oh,
this is awesome, this is tough.
Speaker 3: I was surprised my agent could make this.
Speaker 1: Well, wives, I am surprised you should helping.
Speaker 3: Me out or really yeah you have? You are really
high on the scale.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess so that's pretty good.
Speaker 3: Body of this Calibrian. Well, Stanley, their numbers are going
through the roof. I can feel it all right.
Speaker 1: How many how many years in radio are you? Stanley?
How many years did you just shy of forty, just
shy of forty years and you were mostly here.
Speaker 3: But you did the most.
Speaker 1: Ten.
Speaker 3: I did Austin for ten, I did here for oh,
I did here twenty. I was in California for three.
I was in Utah for three. I was in Fargo
for seven months.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where you did a morning show. Me.
Speaker 3: I did a morning show there, did a morning show
in Salt Lake City too.
Speaker 4: You only going to Fargo for seven months because you
can only take it for seven months.
Speaker 3: When I got to Fargo, it was the beginning of spring.
All they talk about in Fargo, North Dakota is get ready,
get ready, wade o. Winter comes. You're not gonna believe
what winter is. So they go crazy. When I was there,
I mean there was more drunk and crazy partying going
on than any other town I'd ever.
Speaker 1: Been, nothing else I do.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's true. There was actually quite
a bit to do. They're beautiful. They all went to
I think it was ten Thousand Lakes or whatever that
was in Minnesota. But they would all get drunk. The
whole town would empty out a lot of drinking, and
all they talked about was how bad the winter was
going to be and I got the job at WCMF
in October, Oh and moved. I was there from the
beginning of spring till October. So I never I never
had a wow missed the winter. Really, I'm here for winter,
which was no.
Speaker 1: But you were. You were doing a morning show there
in Fargo. Yeah, yeah, and then you left mornings to
program Yeah, uh okay, I did absolutely. Do you ever missed?
Speaker 3: I was a program director and morning show.
Speaker 1: Ah, okay, do you ever miss because you never seem
to miss There was never a longing I got from
you about being on the air. No, I don't.
Speaker 3: I never did. I got tired of it. Once you
do morning radio, then you can't really do any other shift.
Speaker 1: That's true. I agree with that.
Speaker 3: And so I wasn't really a CMF. We had brother Wee's,
so there was no There was really no call for
my act, which was more of a morning zoo kind
of ye.
Speaker 1: I would have loved that, but that was it. That
was Stanley. So stan is the guy who hired me
at CMF. I was a senior at Fisher and I
sent a tape. How drunk were you?
Speaker 3: You know? I don't remember. I don't remember hiring you.
I remember hiring Mark kid that works at Wegmans now
Mark Cronin. I remember hiring Mark Krawn and he walked
in and Peter Coffrom, the general manager, had said, look
at there's anything you do with this kid, get him
in here. And he came in and somebody flaked out
that day in the promotion department or something, and I said,
can you start now? And he said yes, and I
said you're hired. I didn't even asked him any other question.
Speaker 1: The body that's funny. Yeah, I sent a tape I
was still in college. You hired me part time.
Speaker 3: You listen to my tape, you were pretty. You're a natural.
I mean you've got you got a natural. You got
that radio voice. At the time, at the time, you
had to have that voice. Louise was the exception at
the time. He was everybody else had to have the
big deep.
Speaker 4: Yeah and then uh, that big bit you did Crackhead
Theater at four o'clock in the morning Collin phone booth,
Well was yeah.
Speaker 1: I used to, because I said, I sent a tape
of every stupid thing I did at WPDH because I
was midnight to six for a year. I got it
was a mutual understanding that I was going to leave
Saint John Fisher until I could mature a little bit
between my father and the college. I was surprised, and
it still hasn't happened. I spent the summer doing Midnight
to six, and then they said you want to stay
for the you know, stay on and I said, yes,
in the morning show, No from midnight to six, stay on,
meaning when I was supposed to go back to school
at the end to August, they said, stay on for
the year.
Speaker 3: So how far had you gotten along with school?
Speaker 1: I was three years in. I had one more year ago,
and so that was when I would call up. I
got bored playing music, so at three o'clock in the morning,
I would just open the phones so I would say who's
up and why? I would look for people who.
Speaker 3: Are in the program. Doctor didn't care what didn't listen?
Speaker 1: Didn't listen? Well, then one day said he was drinking
and he pulled over to the side of the road
and he listened, and he goes. I loved it. And
then the owner of the station was a guy named
Rob Dyson at the time, and Dyson was really cool.
It took me down to Lime Rock Raceway. I got
to see Paul Newman racing from a distance and all
he raced porsches, this guy and he said to me,
why don't you stay and do nights and then eventually
be my morning guy. And I go, well, education's a
really big deal to my family, and he said, well,
I have a building named after me on Merri's College campus.
So I went home and I told my dad, and
he goes, here's the deal. You can do that find
a way to pay for yourself. You can find your
own apartment and go to Maras, or you can I
will pay for you to finish at Fisher. He goes,
but for the summer, you have to go live with
your uncle in Park City, Park City of Utah. Yeah,
so I did. My uncle was a pilot for Delta
based out of Salt Lake, and I went and spent
the summer.
Speaker 3: There where I did my theater debut all up.
Speaker 1: In Park City, Park City, Yeah, at the Deer Valley.
Speaker 3: I don't remember the name of the theater. It was
Leonard Vole in Agatha Christie's Witness for the Prosecution.
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, so that I loved it there in this
I was there for the summer, and then they were saying, Kennedy,
stay for the you know, do you want to stay
and be a lifting you want to work at the mountains.
And I was working and I was like nah. So
I went back and I went to Fisher and my
old man says, hey, you need to you need to
get a job. So I sent the tape to you
and that was it.
Speaker 3: I got hired and and I just called you in
and said, what I hear you? I don't remember you
hire me to be uh promotions or something?
Speaker 1: No to do weekends? Yeah, I was feeling filling a weekends.
Sometimes it's feeling for Dave Kane. Sometimes I would spending
on my class schedule and I would just come in, Well,
you had me, and that was it. Obviously you're a
talented guy.
Speaker 3: Wow. Business for a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in it for a long time. But
you know, things changed. The business has changed. That's the
that's sort of the I don't know what the hell's happening.
Speaker 3: Over here again. I think you're getting another pizza.
Speaker 1: But the business has changed so much, and I I
still think like there's a part of me that goes
Radio's viable. If you did it a little differently. I
think that they've gotten too big and lost touch with
the community, and you're not going to compete against like
you said.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I you know, I programmed radio stations for a
long long time, and I was big into research and
focusing on individual markets and finding out because different markets
are different. They a lot of people say that's not true.
I you know, it's all the same.
Speaker 1: I mean, back in the day, bands would come out
of areas because they got played on certain radio.
Speaker 3: Stations, love Rochester the only place they could get a
crowd YEP. And but they you know, one of the
advantages radio local radio had was that they could research
the market and figure out what the history of radio
had been in how it had influenced the listeners. Because
if you're in a market that had three top forty
radio stations and no album rock station, the tastes in
music are a lot different from a market that had
three rock stations in hotel or one top forty station.
It does make a big difference. And they've just walked away,
they walked from all away from all that twenty years ago.
And I was in it, and they're hiring me and
paying me pretty good money. To program, and I kept
telling them, look at I'm a numbers guy, okay, and
you're not giving me any numbers. So I'm just pulling
shit out of my butt this and they're like, we
trust your gut. You just do what you think is right.
Speaker 1: Don't work.
Speaker 3: Research is just going to confirm with you.
Speaker 1: You got lucky butt. You got a lucky butt. I'm like, okay,
you're all good. Fine, I don't do it. That's the uh.
But what got you into radio to begin with?
Speaker 3: I always want to be in Dan Ingram?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure, no, I did know Dan Ingram. Dan
Ingram was one of the MCA good guys I listened to.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 3: He was a w ABC, w ABC, Oka ABC. He
was you know Bruce Harrison or Bruce Morrow. Yeah, cousin
Bruce and Brucey. There was a bunch Harry Harrison, her
Boscar Anderson. I woke up every morning herb Boscar Anderson singing.
He would sing in the morning. He would sing. At
six o'clock in the morning, my alarm clock would go
off and he would be on, it's that time again.
Here's my best to you. Are your skies all gray?
I hope they're blue? That's what I woke up to
every morning where was This Island New York City radio
on the zone in the morning when we were doing
mornings there you getting up with singing some John Hyatt
for Everybody's interesting. And I mean, I just always knew
that I wanted to be on the radio. And I too,
and I was in a I was from a pretty
affluent community and Long Island, and frequently, you know, my
friend's parents would say, and so, Stan, what do you
want to be when you grow up? And I'd go
A disc jockey and they'd laugh, you know, and my
friends would go, come on, you got to get a
real job. You know, you can't be a real disc jockey.
And I got to tell you, most of those guys
followed and did what their parents said. Man their parents
automobile company, became a lawyer, became a doctor, and I'd
say eight out of ten of them were miserable. And
I was getting paid my whole life to do something
I would have gladly done for free. I mean, I
love to be in the radio. I didn't care that.
I wasn't really ever that into uh talking on the radio,
was more into the researching of it, and figuring out
what people wanted to hear and the music part of.
Speaker 1: It, because then the uh, I mean you had a
just you were there for the heyday of all the
ship with CMF all right like that was.
Speaker 3: Brother Weis had been the morning show host I think
for about six months or something when I they hired me,
and they really they were concerned. They didn't think he
was going to make it. They really liked him and
they thought that was potential, but they didn't. His ratings
were he was under the radio station. It wasn't really delivering,
but it was. He was new at it. And you know,
Brother Weis, he's kind of a rebel and he didn't
he didn't want to follow any rules of course, use
any proven paths. But we did have a producer, Larry Norton,
who later went on to be.
Speaker 1: The host of Storton Norton in Buffalo.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And he was kind of the first producer I'd never worked.
I was, I did Morning was ready and far before
I took the job. A producer who's got to produce it, right?
But it was a producer and Barry Norton he was
He produced Brother Ways as much as Brotherways would allow
anybody to produce him. Yeah, and so that was that
was kind of interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean I think there was all that
was because I came in in ninety four and I
would hang around that was it was eighty six, so
you were already there for almost a decade by the
time I came in, because I just remember like it
was chaotic, it was, but it was it was an
organized or well no, you had just moved to win
to win and road. Yeah, and that's when.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was those were because we were we had
merged with moremon at that time.
Speaker 1: That was right, Okay, So I came in just as
Suzann MacDonald was there and then the merger happened. So
I was just before that merger when when they came
over and then you were wound up programming to radio.
Speaker 3: STAPs like one of the first programmers in the country
to get to this is a McDonald.
Speaker 1: Yeah. For me, yeah, it was that good or bad.
Speaker 3: It was fantastic. It was huge. Gave me exposure in
a whole different format. And the other format was adult contemporary,
which is a lot more lucrative format. At the time,
album rock was just the men and men have never
been what advertisers are looking for Uh now it's more
I think advertisers search more for men. But back then
it was always women. Men made the money, but women
spent it. So advertisers were looking for women, right.
Speaker 1: The one of the things that I sort of now
look back and go, I wonder if I should have Uh,
not that I regret it, but they they were pushing
and I don't know you. You were the program, Direcord,
but I don't know if it was you trying to
get me to be the love doctor at night a
warm well.
Speaker 3: We were always looking for somebody that was going We
had some pretty weird guys that love I can't remember
the day Chris, your doctor, but he used to have
the girlfriend in the Do you remember this she had?
Speaker 1: He had a girlfriend. He looked like a Farcy character.
Oh yeah, he did very odd. He was very odd man.
And then she was in a wheelchair and he used
to bring her in at night and we'd be down
at CMF once a while we go look and he
would prop her up onto the console. She would sit
there while he did his breaks and stuff, like a muppet.
She's just sitting there her legs.
Speaker 3: I never knew. Oh, yeah, yeah, I don't think the
Love Doctor was on that long.
Speaker 1: No, So they were trying to get me to go
do it, and they.
Speaker 3: Remember what happened with him, but I know there was
a lot of odd stuff that went on with that.
Speaker 1: So the only time Stanley ever really yelled at me.
I used to get all the time, this is what
you would say to me, honey, don't turn it into
a gas station. But the best was I So they
asked me to fill it on warm, and I'm filling
in and I'm I'm bored, and I don't want to
be on warm. I want to on CMF. And why
am I down here? And you have the perfect voice
for it? Well, I didn't see. And the thing was,
had I embraced it, you probably could have done something
with that that would have been a little different, a
little more enjoyable.
Speaker 3: Whole thing putts out eventually, the whole love song.
Speaker 1: It did like pillow talk with Alan whatever, and uh,
so I'm down there and I didn't want to do it,
and so I would when I had to backsell, I
would always slip in like uh yellow River by ip
daily and brown Spots on the wall. Yes, yes I did.
I didn't do it on warm. And there was one
time though that I pushed a wrong button and I
don't know what I did, and the mic was still up,
and I'm like, like, I made some noise and you
hotline me and go that kind of shit will fly
on CMF. Don't do that on war on one point
three ever again. And then you came to me later
and apologize, and I go, no, I'm sorry, I said
I I had a panicked moment because I couldn't figure
out the At the moment, I couldn't I hit something
and the mic was still on. But I'm like, you
never knew that I was backselling ip Deli and Brown
Spots who a lot? I know.
Speaker 3: I used to like to kind of freak out the
jocks by calling them at two o'clock in the morning,
Uncle Roger. I used to call at two o'clock in America, Roger,
what are you doing? Because you know, he'd go off
and play a record that wasn't on the list, and
I'd say, Roger, it's not just supposed to be doing
to me. Oh, I didn't know you'd be listening. I'm listening,
and that's why I always want. I had a radio
on in I had the toilet in the in the bathroom,
and anytime i'd go to the toilet, I'd hear two
three minutes of the radio station wow. And I would
call up a lot of times sometimes just to say hey,
it was a good break, you know, just so that
they would always listening, right, because I always wanted them to.
But I didn't listen that much, but I I wanted
the aura that I was, Oh.
Speaker 1: You did it. You had the aura to make that happen. Yeah,
that was funny. They glad you never heard the doctor
who flung she or yellow River or help round spun. Yeah,
because I was like, I don't want to do this.
And then once in a while I would get a
guy who would call up and go, amranimals that you
are warm up stating with. My girlfriend listened to the
radio like yeah, that was it. That was the That
was that was the beginning. That was Those were fun
times and they were a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: They had great two radio stations that were kicking ass.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Really it was incredible and hard to do.
Speaker 3: And the radio stations were printing money. Yeah, literally, w
CMF for a while there was grossing more money than
they paid for the radio station.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Complete every year they would they would literally pay for them.
Speaker 1: I remember some of the numbers that they were bringing
in out of the market, and that was it was
pretty impressive what they did. That was a real hospital.
Speaker 3: One time, brother, We's had twenty twenty five share with
twenty five to fifty four year.
Speaker 1: Old Yeah, adults, twenty five, that's a quarter. I thought
it was even Oh with adults with excuse me, with adults,
because I know with men it was like, oh man,
it was ridiculous, right, But you're right, there were astronomical numbers.
It was unheard of and it was yeah, and you
were at the helm of all that. It was your fault.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if that was my way. I
didn't get in the way of it.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing is, like you needed to be there.
It was very rare that you would find a program
director that would not get in the way of it,
because later on I found guys and they they would
get in the way. And there was one or two
I found like that were similar to you, but not many.
Speaker 3: A lot of times there were I did consulting, yeah,
the last part of my career, and we go over
and especially it did a lot of it in Canada
working on morning radio shows, and it was probably the
toughest thing about being a consultant was not convincing the
morning show to take chances and to grow do new things.
It was getting the management to go, hey, if they
do new things and screw up, go in and compliment them, right,
Know that you appreciate the fact that they're trying different things, right,
And don't get upset because they leave the radio station
at ten o'clock in the morning and go live a crazy.
Speaker 1: Life, right, because that's that's what you want.
Speaker 3: You want them to come in and bring stories about
their crazy life so people can live through them. But
you'd run across quite a few program directors it would
be oh no, no, no, they I'm really upset they walk
out at nine fifty nine. Who cares? You know.
Speaker 1: I used to make a joke that like you could
catch Tommy or Wieze. They were here in the last
part of the show and delay. They were already asking
their cars.
Speaker 3: They're work with Tony Infantino too, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah there, yeah, you know they would their show was
really over at eight thirty, but they voice tracked the
last hour and a half. Yeah, you know, salespeople would
be like, what these people, these people don't do anything,
you know, all right, Yeah, well they they go out
and they have a life, and then they come in
and they talk about their life. Yeah, they're not going
to have much of a life if they're sitting talking,
they're looking at a computer monitor all long, typing memos.
That's not a life that most people fantasize.
Speaker 1: No, it's not at all. It's not not the thing.
Why don't we take a We'll take a short break.
And then Stanley has had such a vast array of things,
hobbies that you dipped into from movies to now farming
and uh, you know. The other thing I was thought
about you was I always said that Stanley was very
very giving. You really really supported a lot of people.
You really helped a lot of people along the way.
I think I once said, he's like Jesus without the Church,
of Jesus complex without the church. I don't think of
Jesus complex. I don't mean that. I don't mean it
that way. But Stanley, I mean you opened your home
to people. You have supported kids, you have helped families,
You've done all kinds.
Speaker 3: Of I have I was in Compere.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, program.
Speaker 3: I was on the board for for many years of
comp here, and I had a comp here all the
way through about two. I was in fifteen sixteen.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: And the first kid that I volunteered with is now
fifty five years old. Damn it was fifteen. Yeah, it
was fifteen when it started. Fifty five years old just
about my age calls me every day still every day.
He and his twin brother. I hear from them almost
wait everything.
Speaker 1: Oh, I know the guys Danny and David. Yes, Danny
and David. They're fifty five now, fifty five years old. God,
damn Danny and David. I do remember Danny and David
coming around the radio station.
Speaker 3: They were they would they would take the wan out.
Yeah they yeah, we're the ben Oh god.
Speaker 1: They were funny as hell. They were funny as hell.
I recall.
Speaker 4: We still are and we'll take a moment birthday gifts too.
Now I'm gonna just arrived that we have to talk
to you about too.
Speaker 1: Okay, all that coming up. Victor Chrysler dodgeyp Ram knows
school's just about back in session, and that means kids
activities are kicking in and your calendar looks like a
game of Tetris gun horribly wrong. You need a ride
that's reliable, safe, and makes you look cooler than the
dad with the minivan. How about this a brand new
twenty twenty five Jeep wagoneer S Limited four XC. Lease
it for just one ninety nine a month for twenty
four months. That's right, two benjamins and a spare dollar bill.
First payment, DMV taxes and fees do with signing twenty
five hundred casher trade seventy five hundred miles a year.
Conquest required. See dealer for details. Exclusives apply. Or maybe
you're thinking, forget soccer practice, I want to haul stuff.
Then get into a twenty twenty five Ram Tradesman crew
cab four by four. Lease it for just three seventy
nine a month for forty two months. First payment, DMV
taxes and fees do with signing thirty five hundred castor
trade ten thousand miles per year. Conquest required. Basically, it's
a truckload of awesome because whether it's carpool karaoke with
the kids, hauling lumber, or just finally winning the cool
carpool parent contest victor Chrysler dodgecheep More on Root ninety
six and Victor has your back, So stop scrolling memes
and start driving dreams. Visit Victor cdjr dot com today.
The Cobblestone chop Drop is back. Are you familiar with
cobblestones chop drop? This is where they take a pork
chop and they prepare it in some really unique, fantastic way.
This time it's a grilled pork chop glazed in a
rich bourbon sauce, served over steamed cabbage and lionaised potatoes. Yep,
it's as amazing as it sounds, and you're gonna find
it only at Cobblestone on Maine. One on nine West
Main Street in the village of Webster, your go to
spot for lunch, dinner, unforgettable nights out. Whether you're catching
up with friends at their upscale bar, sipping seasonal craft cocktails,
or planning the perfect date night, Cobblestone's got you covered.
The Cobblestone chop Drop. You don't want to miss this one.
One on nine West Main Street in the village of Webster.
It's Cobblestone on Maine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh huh, Sammy doing it Sammy Hagar.
Speaker 1: Look at that Sammy Hagar doing a Happy Birthday signed
the McCartney out my phone, A couples ago. That's all
covers of all the McCarty and Wing songs, and it was, yeah,
pretty good stuff.
Speaker 3: Always wife Sammy.
Speaker 1: Sammy Hagar was considered. I didn't realize who is a
Paul Pendleton or somebody who was a producer said he
was the best singer in rock in Rock's you know.
I mean, Graham was pretty damn.
Speaker 3: Good from my perspective. Van Halen fans clearly preferred. Most
of them preferred David Lee Rock.
Speaker 1: So it's so said I am seeing David I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm the same way I thought most of the stuff.
Speaker 1: David Lee Roth is out on tour right now, and
I should have pulled the audio.
Speaker 3: He's got to be one hundred years.
Speaker 1: Seventy years old and he people went down to see
him a I think it was still Oh turning Stone buddy,
and they said the show was great. I see a show.
I think it was South Dakota or I don't know where.
Speaker 4: It was so hard rock South Miami, Okay, where he
couldn't sing at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're showing it he's out in the leather and
he's dancing around and just looks so bad and he
sounds awful. And then some ladies posting like she's got
her face in it, and then she's showing David le
Ross because I wasted so much money on this. I
mean it really sounded bad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and with auto tune or whatever they have nowadays,
that's a.
Speaker 1: Trying to Singana Booser, which was.
Speaker 3: Like anybody, anybody should be able to do it with.
Speaker 1: Yes, somebody could come along and help you to say it.
Speaker 3: By Frankie Valley, he's like, you know, eighty something.
Speaker 1: Yes, he's still out.
Speaker 3: I saw him not that long ago finger Lakes and
he signed great. And then I read somewhere that it's
not really his voice anymore. It's just as a auto
tuned up. They they can make anybody. You and I
could go out and do a duet there the auto
tune and it would sound halfway decent.
Speaker 1: That would be something that would be very interesting.
Speaker 3: I think it's called auto tune.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is all tune, uh ask. I'm trying to
think of all the different things, because you had to
have some crazy, crazy times in radio, like things that
were just.
Speaker 3: There was a lot of drugs, Yeah, a lot of
drugs and a lot of booth that things were different.
Speaker 1: They were very different.
Speaker 3: When I talked to kids today about what my life
was like when I was their age, I mean I
would we would all be in jail, you know. I
mean in l Paso, Texas. I was the assistant program director,
production director, I can't remember it k E LP and
Al Paso, Texas. And we were in a very nice
executive center building and my boss would come get me
in the morning. The general manager would pick me up.
I went to college in the morning, and he'd pick
me up and we'd go out and have get really high.
I had. My roommate was from Lebanon. He had this
huge bong that we weren't supposed to use, and we'd
get really high and go out and find the dumpiest
Mexican restaurants we could find. Our Passo's got a Mexican
restaurant every corner, and the crappier the place is, typically
the better the food is. It's great. And then we
would come to work and we would after an hour
or two, we would have a little circle out right
near the exit of the building, just a circle pow
wow passing and joint around. This was in the nineteen
seventies and then you could get yourself in a lot
of trouble, but you really didn't worry about this. Everybody
was smoking pot back then. And you know, my sixteen
year old inter would come in with a six pack
of beer at six o'clock. My shift went till seven.
He'd come in with a six pack of beer at
exit o'clock and we'd be drinking beer and.
Speaker 1: That was it. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, No that none
of that ship flies today. No, none of that.
Speaker 3: We had a disc jockey or one of the talent
on at night on p x Y and he did something.
He came to work slightly high.
Speaker 1: Yeah, said he might have been slightly high. You know,
I know.
Speaker 3: It was a big thing. It was a huge thing,
and I had to, you know, I had to get involved,
and they wanted, I want memos, we want this document.
I like, come on, guys, I mean, if.
Speaker 1: It was cocaine, it wasn't norm It wasn't cocaine. Definitely.
Speaker 3: It seemed I know, ludicrous because I remembered.
Speaker 1: I think he drove the van and they thought he
was high. Maybe he did an appearance and they didn't
have somebody, so he drove the van. He said I'll
drive it, and they said he was high, and then
he wound up going down to the islands. I know exactly. Yes,
I think he's teaching in Nevada at UNLV.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, interesting, I remember him. Yeah, And I felt
bad for him because I felt like.
Speaker 1: He it was kind of I did too. I agree,
and it was it got a little crazy. That was
you mentioned the guy that you because you did kind
of two shifts in Rochester at CMF. The guy you
replaced was he was like it could be your best
buddy or your worst enemy. And I have so many
stories about that guy. Like there was I used to
play a game in the afternoon strip trivia and there
was a woman, a listener who would always come up
and her husband traveled, and I think she was just
looking for attention, and so she would come up and
it would be her against a listener and I would
never let her really lose. Well, one day she cost me.
That guy took her out to a hotel and slept
with her.
Speaker 3: Well, there was all sorts of memories about him. He
used to use the gift certificates and then go and
not only pay for dinner with the gift certificates, but
want to go food.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did that. And then there was a time
where he came running into me. There was a meeting.
He goes, Hey, if they come and ask you if
I talked to you about this, tell them yes. And
then he postdated a memo saying I had a conversation
with Bim. But I'm like that this guy was shady
as shit, shady as shit.
Speaker 3: Right, and he had replaced the guy that was like
dumber in the box of rocks. I think, oh yeah,
because when I left, the station was just shy of
a ten share and we had been about a fifteen,
so everybody was panic, right, and I left and I'm
going down to Austin. I never hear from it. I
never hear from this guy. And I raced after him
a couple of times, say hey, you know, how are
you doing? You know, because it was a big research
thing at the time. I think they blew that all
up and it.
Speaker 1: Was this the one who used to put a guitar on
the front porch. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: And I remember within the first year of being gone,
the ratings came out for WCMF, and they had an
overall of four point nine, and I thought, holy shit,
what is this guy doing there, because I used to
think I could turn the radio station off and pull
a five yep, and they got a four point nine.
Speaker 1: He used to He decided that he was going to
do a shift, so he inserted himself from four to
six pm, four pm to six pm, and then he
used to meet women through the radio and he would
have them come up and wait in the lobby and
he'd have somebody go out and check them out, and
if they told them they were attractive, he would he
would wrap up his shift and go out. If somebody goes,
oh man, he would go. He would call front, I'm
tied up, I got a meeting. I gotta get to whatever.
And then blow these girls off and just random.
Speaker 3: Girls over the request line.
Speaker 1: You got it, Call her number nine, Call her number nine.
It was that kind of thing. It was the weirdest thing.
And he was one of these guys who there are
some fat guys that have like really big calves, right,
They've like they because they're carrying so much weight, and
they got big forearms and they think they're in shape,
but they're really not, They're just fat guys. So he
used to see these guys in boxing all the time.
They would come in and after one three minute round,
they're fucking gas. They can't do anything. But they were
big and so and they thought they were big, but
they were they were fore arms and legs. That was
this guy. And he came in once with shorts on,
showing off his calves. He's got his kick and a
pink shirt. And somebody on the morning show made a
comment and he wanted that guy fired and he went
crazy trying to get that person fired out see who
could that have been? And then and Weeze came and goes,
Brah the name of the show had brought a weed
bat and fucking like it was. I mean, it was
an actual and the ego was so big, and that
was the problem. It wasn't about the radio station. It
was about him, right, And you're always what I got.
When I'd call him and say, hey, yeah, you know,
how's it going. You don't have to they don't have
time for that. I say, well, we don't have time
for this. Oh god, that was some of the greatest.
And then he went off to be a GM somewhere
and when he left, he's like he was telling me.
I was like, you're not ready to do mornings. Within
a month he's calling me going, hey, you want to
do a morning showing Vermont. I go, fuck, no, I
don't want to come to Vermont. No, the U asshole.
It's like the best. But during radio you started something
called Rochester Movie Makers.
Speaker 3: That was after I left came back from Austin, and
I knew I was going to work for CBS Radio,
and I knew they had no interest in markets like Rochester,
New York, and they were going to get rid of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The question was where they're going to hold it for
one year or five years? And I think they wound
up holding it for about two a little than two.
And I knew that when I came back, and I
didn't want to. I didn't want to come back to
Rochester because I'd been very successful working with a guy
out in Los Angeles was a consultant, and it was
two hours, three hours a day, the cat in my lap,
and I was making probably seventy five percent of what
I've been making on the radio anyway, And back then,
the amount of money the consultants used to make, yeh business.
Speaker 1: I had one.
Speaker 3: I had two radio shows in Tucson, Arizona. All I
had to do was listen to those two radio shows
for maybe four or five hours, and then composed a
one hour phone call once a month with each one
of them, so maybe twelve hours a month. They paid
a four thousand dollars a month, of which I got
like sixty five percent because I was the one doing
the works pretty good, and that with that dried up.
And so when that dried up, then I came back
to Rochester to work for CBS Radio, and sure enough,
they didn't hold it for very long. But I had
had a good talent agent that advised me on what
to do, and they were very generous in me. Even
beyond that. They wound up paying me to not work
for a year and and a half at the same
salary as if I was working, which was a good seal.
That was CBS Radio at the time, and that they
paid people like in New York City we were in Rochester,
so it was it was a great thing for me.
So I had a year and a half after CBS
sold the radio station and I wasn't going to work
for intercom. It became pretty clear pretty quickly. I didn't
want to, and they so then I had nothing to do.
And I thought I had taken some radio, some film
courses in Austin when I was down there, because they
had a film school down there that was pretty easy
to get involved in and didn't cost a lot of money.
And I didn't want to go to rit and spend
twenty thousand dollars a year. And I'm like, what It
was a very simple little process that they had in Austin.
This guy was a film you know, not much of
a filmmaker, but he had been a teacher at UT
and he started his own film school. And what you
did was you came into class the first day and
he said, okay, everybody should have a screenplay because I
told you to write a screenplay before you came. I
think it was ten page screenplay. This would be ten
minute movies we were making. And we read. Everybody had
to read the screenplay live, like the first day or two,
and then the class voted on the top three. And
there were thirty people in the class and they split
into three groups of ten, and you had to produce
the films. And we did. And I thought, why couldn't
I just do that here, yeah, you know, and not
charge people money, just get people involved and have competitions
for screenplays. And then I put a press release out
and City Newspaper did a whole thing on this, just
this press release on new film groups starting in Rochester,
New York. And I rented a room in the Briton Library.
I think it was free. We're ten dollars or something.
And the first day, like thirty people showed up and
most of them were filmmakers who a lot of them
were very suspect of me because I wasn't a filmmaker
and I'm running the group, so there was a little
give and take there. But it was fun and I
loved it. But I was going to south By Southwest
and really eating every book I could get and learning
pretty quickly that you know, in Rochester, New York, you're
not going to make money doing film, at least if
you're sixty or fifty five. I think it was fifty five,
fifty eight years all the time, you know, you've got
to be eighteen years old, and you got to really
really want it because, like you and I were talking earlier,
typical filmmaking process is okay, it's if you're lucky, you're
going to get your screenplay written in a year Jesus
by the fifth overright or fifth ree right. Then it's
going to take you a year to find your producers
and your directors and your cast and camera people, and
then another year to shoot the thing and get it
edited and get it put together. And then a few
months after that they get the sound right, they get
the color correction, and there's so much stuff that you
don't know when you're not in it. And then so
now you got your film, and you basically paid paid
five years of your life to get your film done,
and you're really excited about your film. Well, congratulations, a
third of your work is done, because now you've got
to get out and sell it and sell it, and
that's two thirds of the gig.
Speaker 1: It's tough. I know guys who have done documentaries and things,
and it's it's tough, right, you know, And a lot
of it.
Speaker 3: Is easy to get ripped off.
Speaker 1: Well. I think a lot of these guys try to
fund it themselves so that way they're not you know
what I mean. And it's usually guys with some deeper
pockets who.
Speaker 3: Have still sold to somebody for distribution. There's a lot
of ways you can get guys that will be like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you'll make it. We'll take care of you. I think
it's getting better.
Speaker 1: It is getting better, and I think the independent stuff
is kind of nice. I mean, we're in a very
strange time I think in American history. I do would
sometimes feel like there could be a civil war at
some point.
Speaker 3: We just passed through a really great time to be
a small independent filmmaker because Netflix, all those companies were
just spending so much. They were unsustainable rights of money
that now they're having to answer for. But for a
long time, but I was prior to all that, so
Netflix was just happening, and and you know, streaming was
you know for a long time though when I started,
if you streamed a film that it was on your
computer monitor and it was probably three inches by two inches,
and somehow, you know, a couple of years later, all
of a sudden, it's high definitions.
Speaker 1: It's everything. That technology is amazing, what's happening. But I
do think the like, you know, we're in such a
strange time that independent films and stuff, people being able
to make what they want is fantastic. Without having to
go to a company like even here you get to
say what you want to say in a language that
wouldn't be FCC compatible, right, But you can do it.
And as long as you've got.
Speaker 3: There's a hobby. There used to be a lot higher
cost of entrance into my.
Speaker 1: Way wave more like I always said, what do I say, Kevin?
The barrier to entry is gone? Jesus, I say, the
barrier to entry is gone?
Speaker 3: Absolutely when when I was doing it, the camera that
I bought cost ten thousand dollars, Holy shit, and I
still have it. Uh, it's not worth it's not worth
as much as his phone is.
Speaker 1: Right now.
Speaker 3: It'll do a better picture because it's got better glass,
but it doesn't do as high a resolution as this
is this.
Speaker 1: As the phone the phone, it's not it's strange. But
all those passions you have, I mean you dive head
first in man, you're advocating for people when you go
you're all in Stanley.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I tend to be well. I've always
been single, so I can do whatever I want to
do whenever I want to do it. Yeah, and I
you know, I'm a gadget hound.
Speaker 1: And didn't you have an RV for a while.
Speaker 3: I still do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, are you traveling around doing?
Speaker 3: I have traveled around in that fucking Oh my god,
I gut.
Speaker 1: RV's a the worst. Don't ever buy him, steal a
mobile home, a rock and roll.
Speaker 3: And whatever you do, don't ever buy one new. Yeah,
I could have bought one. None of my neighbors. When
I first moved to Reiga, one of my neighbors was
selling his RV okay, and it was a nineteen eighty
five r V all right, And I thought, but it
was nice looking and I went in. It was beautiful,
and I have another neighbor said he this guy totally
took care of that RV and he wanted He initially
was asking eighteen thousand dollars for it, and I had
just moved and I just wasn't ready to get the
idea at that time. He wound up selling the thing
for like twelve wow, as opposed to.
Speaker 1: The eighty yeah, oh yeah, yeah, eighty yeah.
Speaker 3: I spent for the brand new one, the brand new
one that I took out on a trip to Utah. Yeah,
And it has a slide out on it, and it's
a big slide out on the slideout is the refrigerator,
all your clothing storage, Uh, the diamond table.
Speaker 1: I have no idea. That's when I don't know anything.
Speaker 3: About another birthday present coming.
Speaker 5: I think, okay, this is from your brother, oh from
my brother birthday.
Speaker 1: My brother said it happy birthday. My dad died. So wow,
look at all that man, Thank you. That was uh,
that's funny. Yeah, because when we were so one night
we had come back when my dad was in hospice,
and we're sitting out in these chairs and all of
a sudden, the carpools in the driveway and I go,
what's this. My brother had ordered dominos so late at night,
but he lives like off this dirt road in Kenny Bunk, Maine.
So I was shocked to see dominoes coming.
Speaker 3: Right, that's amazing what they delivered to Now, yeah they do.
But anyway, I forgot we were talking about.
Speaker 1: But we were talking about you and the r V
and then.
Speaker 3: It's a slideout. Yeah, and it's got like everything. It's
a there's a dining room table, there's storage, there's a refrigerator.
And the problem was that every time I took a
right turn to slide out, would slide out.
Speaker 1: Oh my God.
Speaker 3: I mean going ten miles an hour would slide out.
Had I taken an exit you know, one of those
loopy exits doing fifty sixty five miles. Yeah, that whole
thing would have been out on the ground.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: There was nothing holding it in. And I'm in like,
who come carry Arizona or something, some strange town.
Speaker 1: What did you do?
Speaker 3: I pulled over and I had a extended warranty on
the thing, which paid for itself. I don't usually do
extended warranties, but that I did, and it was smart
because I called and they said, well, we can come
help you out tomorrow, and said, ex Jesus tomorrow. And
then I I googled it and it turned out I'm
in this little town that it's like one of those
towns where there's like a traffic light, that's it. There
were two RV places in the town and they were
both within a mile of where I was. So I
told the guy looked. They said, we can't come out
right now, we've got you know. I said, well, I'll
come to you, and so I drove to them and
they literally just drilled holes in the thing and put
bolts in and just bolted it down. I couldn't open
it up anymore, but I didn't care. I felt so
good to be able to drive the thing and not
worry about the whole thing falling apart. So it's it's, uh,
there's a lot of things that you know, you've got
a house, you're basically driving a house. Yeah, everything that
the house is there, microwaves, ovens, everything's there. And houses
are really not. They don't do well if they move
a lot. There's always things that come undone. Yes, so
you know, there was a lot of times it was
on RVY trip. I had a big plan going to Texas,
gonna go visit some friends and be gone for a
couple of weeks. Take the dogs. There's another story. And
I get in the RV to go and the refrigerator's
broken and it's going to be three months before the
refrigerators fixed. And that's the end of summer. So now
you can't you can't use an RB in wintertime. It's
literally only two months you can use the RV. Jesus
for me, Yeah, it's got to be fifty degrees so
at night if I'm gonna use the RV because they've
got air conditioners in it.
Speaker 1: But no heater.
Speaker 3: Oh it's got a heater.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can go by.
Speaker 3: But the air.
Speaker 1: Conditioners, you know, you can hear this air condo.
Speaker 3: Will multiply that by about fifty Yeah, I mean the
k and I literally the first trip I ever took
in my RV was too long to actually Manhattan. Because
a friend of mine was in the hospital. I took
the RVY to Manhattan, stayed right across from the How the.
Speaker 1: Fuck did you drive that through Manhattan? Oh? Oh yeah, Jesus.
Speaker 3: Well, first I wasn't supposed to drive through man Yeah,
I was going. I stayed in New Jersey, which is
right across the river Manhattan, and it was beautiful place.
I mean, it was a terrible It was a parking lot,
but it was cool because the Statue of Liberty was
You could see the Statue of Liberty from my RVY
bar and uh. So I got done visiting my friend
in the hospital, and I had two or three dogs
of me at the time, and I thought to myself,
you know, my dogs have never seen the beach. I
really should take my dogs to the beach. So I
made a reservation on the end of Long Island as
far as you can go at the end of Long
Island too. It's a state park and you had to
reserve two nights because there was a two nights. In
a moment, I thought, this is cool, this is going
to be great. I'll go through Garden City where I
was raised, and I have a hero sandwich.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they call them heroes. They call them heroes, and
Poughkeepsie they do.
Speaker 3: And uh, I was gonna do all that. And so
I'm I'm driving there and somehow I get in the
Manhattan Tunnel.
Speaker 1: Oh God, by mistaken Lincoln. Yes, and they got you.
Speaker 3: I'm driving this, I am shitting in my PA and
I passed by something that knocks the rear view mirror
out on the right, which that mirror is mission critical
because you cannot move because you can't see who's there.
And people don't give a flying the RV asshole to
begin with, you're in their way. Boom boom. And I
literally stopped right at the end of the tunnel and
I just got out and fortunately the thing had just
fallen out. I could literally shove it right back in,
shoved it back in, got in there, started driving all
the way out here. It's all the way through Long.
Speaker 1: Ho So that's like a three hour.
Speaker 3: It probably was six six It should have taken maybe
two and change if i'd gone Well, traffic is usually
Long Island is just crazy traffic, and RVs are not
really welcome on Long Island. I'm on the Long Island
Long is Expressway, and by the time you see the
sign that says oh cars only.
Speaker 1: You're on the you're on the road. So I'm driving
along and the tunnels I got.
Speaker 3: I got twelve feet eight inches clean to go through
tunnels weren't twelve feet eight inches lost two air conditioners. Shit,
didn't even know it. I knew something was I knew
I could, But the tunnel I could just bear if
you got in the middle, if you got right in
the middle of arc. I thought it was cool, but
it turned out I wasn't cool. So I drive it here.
It's going to be a long story, but I think
it's a little bit funny. I'm driving into my old
town and I pull over because the shower curtain is
the shower door is screwed up, and I want to
fix it. It's bothering me because every time I turn around,
I pull over on Big Big Street Stewart Avenue, on
Long Island pull over and I just go back and
get it, shove it, fix it, get back in there,
pull away, and the tree that was right next to me,
I had grabbed the sun panel and had pulled the
entire metal thing out and had covered the door. So
I can't get out. I cannot get out of the
r V. Now I've got two dogs sitting there look
at it, like what you're doing, and I can't get out.
I got to climb out of the window, which is
not easy thing to do. Police come. They determined that
I have not done any damage, so I'm free to go,
but I'm trapped in the r V. And I find
out I got this a little RV place in Hempstead,
and I called him up and the guy goes. The
guy name was Marv, and he's this old, typical Long
Island guy. Just hey, you know, we can't really we're
not going to be able to get to you right away,
you know, because we got our regular customers. But if
you want to come, well, I can't even do the
accident anymore. But it was that beautiful Long Xul. I
just loved it. I drove over there and there again
the guys. I see the guy. He's got the places,
you know, one of those old everything. Nothing's been dusted
since the nineteen sixties. This guy's been sitting. This guy's
been sitting at this desk in the middle of the place.
Just old grumpy man, you can tell, but basically a
good heart. But he was again, he's like, you know,
you're gonna have to wait. It's gonna take some time.
And I'm like, honey, I got an RV, it's got TV,
I got the internet. I don't care. They take your time.
Within three hours they had me in, they pulled the
thing off, and so I continued to drive all the
way out to the state park. And again it takes
me like four hours. You know, every twenty minutes you're stopped.
Get to the state park and what is the first
thing I see but a sign that says no dogs,
no pets allowed. I'm like fuck. So I went and
checked in anyway, and they didn't, you know, the dogs
were quiet, and I drove and parked and the lady
right across from me has a dog.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, I thought it says no pets. A lout.
Speaker 3: She says, well, I've got a it's a service dog.
I said, oh, she says, those aren't service dogs and
they're going to kick you out if they finding out.
So we went to bed. I got up like five
o'clock in the morning, took the dogs to the beach.
They wanted to have absolutely nothing to do with the
water or anything to do with it. What's the river? God,
the damn thing? And drove back home. Got a got
a hero sandwich though, del fight delicatessa.
Speaker 1: There you go, perfect, all right, we'll take another little
short break. Uh, my brother sent pizza. Then the other gifts.
You're well, this one's originally from your dead father too.
Oh it is.
Speaker 4: There was supposed to be a message with the pizza delivered. Oh,
it was supposed to be a message with that, but
I think it would have come into Spanish from the
get that delivered the first one.
Speaker 1: Okay, I got you. All right, Well we'll get to
all the right after this. It's grilling season, baby, and
Palmer's Direct to Your Market is bringing the heat nine
hundred Jefferson Road and Henriette and online at Palmer's Direct
to You dot Com. Grill warriors, fire up those flames.
Palmers Direct to You Market is your one stop meat
and seafood paradise this summer. Whether you're hosting the block
party of the year or just treating yourself to some
backyard sizzle, Palmers has exactly what you need to own
the grill. Say hello to the homemade fresh Trio Blend
slider patties on special three ounces each packed with Pommers
signature in house mix of certified aggas beefchuck, sirloin and brisket.
Build your own slider flight and explore bold new flavors
like the ridiculous Blend patties. Yes they're as ridiculously good
as they sound. Available on full size or slider size,
because your grill deserves options. Hooked on seafood well, then
dive into the fresh Monhi Mahi files. If Pommers Direct
to You market just thirteen ninety nine a pound, or
grab a two pound bag of farm raised Talon cook
shrimp for only fourteen ninety eight a bag that's protein packed.
Summer snacking done right. Even if you think you've mastered
the flame, Palmers is here to keep you humbled and helpful.
Check out palmersdirect to You dot com for grilling tips,
steak secrets, grill maintenance hacks, and more. Because greatness starts
with guys. So let's make this the greatest grilling season ever.
Head to Pommers Direct to Your Market nine hundred Jefferson
Road in Henrietta, or visit Pomers Direct to you dot com.
Meet seafood, skills, sauce, sizzle, it's all here at Palmer's
Direct to You. Now, go forth and grill like a legend.
When life takes an unexpected turn, you need someone who's
going to stand by your side. At circu Law, they
understand that good people can find themselves in difficult situations,
whether it's a DWI charge or being accused of a
crime you didn't knowingly commit. Your rights matter, and protecting
them is Circulaw's priority. As your defense attorneys, they'll meticulously
analyze every aspect of your case, from understanding the charges
to dissecting applicable laws and statutes. They believe everyone deserves
a fair trial and proper justice. Why face the legal
system alone, Let's Circu Law help protect your rights and
guide you through this challenging time. Contact the today at
five eight five three eight five twenty five ten or
reach out through their secure email at circulaw dot com.
That's s e R c U Law dot com, CIRCU Law,
your rights, their commitment. Sure they played this on They
might have played on Warm. I thought they even played
on CMM. No not John hy not his worst yo
looking five ton or ever. No, this is this is
John Hyde.
Speaker 4: Oh johns No, it's.
Speaker 1: What you're doing.
Speaker 4: We're thet to get the real versions that we're playing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well I was gonna play the real version.
This is the worsion. Everybody knows over here that, Uh
well I should have. I should have let you pull
it up.
Speaker 3: Let me got it.
Speaker 1: I gotta heart. Just get through the ad and here
we go. Good and forgive him a clue. You remember, Jeff, Yeah,
angel Eyes. It was written by John Hyatt, so I
played his verse first and then Jeff Heally took it
and it became a hit with.
Speaker 3: Heally, I know, but it was.
Speaker 1: It was kind of a hit, all yeah, all right.
It might have been a mid charter on the A
R charts. But I always liked it because John high Road,
and I was like, look at that. It's impressive. But
you're right, he didn't have many hits at all. I think,
uh not many Anny Bonnie Ray Bonnie. No, he didn't
Bonnie Ray. Bonnie Ray, Yeah, and Bonnie he wrote a
bunch of Bonnie great songs. And come on, she's had
some stuff. She's got a new one one that was yes.
Speaker 3: When she was really really she got all that big
award out of nowhere, all of a sudden, Bonnie Ray
gets an award for I can't remember what got.
Speaker 1: But they were all like did you ever see them
down in Texas or anything? Like Bonnie Raid? And because
they were always I thought playing, uh places like south By,
Southwest or they would be it. You know, Austin was
a great it is a great music town. Steven Rayvaugh
statue right there.
Speaker 3: No, we you could. There was a lot of music
on Sixth Street. The bars had a lot of music,
but it was not Bonnie Raid it you know. Yeah,
more Honkey Tom Rates, third cousin.
Speaker 1: Bill Raid, Bill Ray. That's funny, Ken, What are all
the stuff that came in? All right?
Speaker 4: Well this this came from Maine, from from my brother.
I think you came from your dad. That's oh, it's
a cake. Look at dad at chocolate cake.
Speaker 3: The ultimate chocolate kid. Don't make they don't make it better.
Speaker 1: Than that, No, they don't know this came from your
dad as well. Hello, Oh really an eight. So I
used to always say that I had my bat blue period.
Van Go had his blue period. I have my Labat
blue period. And then this one's from me with the
alcoholic period that I brought you to, yeah, instead of
the Danny brought me non alcoholic yesterday, Yeah, which was
very good and a bunch of crunch that didn't make
the Keith Richards live. Oh is that new? Yeah? I
love the Stones and Keith Richard is my favorite.
Speaker 3: And you're doing vinyl.
Speaker 1: I have vinyl a home.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I do listen to vinyl and I get the h
That's why I try to give my sons to listen
to vinyl. My one son is sown a rap. I
don't even understand.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's one fun, there's more and there's not something
else in there too. Excuse man, just an easy one right.
Finally in Canada, Oh Stone socks.
Speaker 1: Look at that? To wear those, I'm gonna wear those tomorrow.
Speaker 3: You're a big Stones.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I went out to see I love the Stones.
I went in eighty nine when I graduated high school,
went down to see him at Shay and then a
bunch of times with CMF and then last year my
brother flew in from Maine and we drove to Cleveland.
Oh Bill passed out halfway to the show.
Speaker 3: And that was just last year.
Speaker 1: That it was just last summer. And are they they
sounded great? Nick sounded great, Autoune. I don't know. It's
got to be something because David Lee Roth ain't there,
but Mixed sounded great. And now Netflix is doing a
whole thing on the life of Mick Jagger. I'm pretty
sure it's like a whole series on like a X
part series on becoming Mick Jagger or whatever.
Speaker 3: That was.
Speaker 1: An episode I suppose. I always wanted to sit down first, kid,
you know what one of my favorites was, because I
was just thinking this. I always wanted to interview Keith Richards.
I love interviewing people. I love getting into the kind
of their head and finding out what makes him ticket.
I had some really really cool interviews over the years,
but the one that I still will always always be
my favorite to have witnessed was Charlie Fitzsimmons, Ozzy Osbourne
and Snoozer and you were there. I remember, Brother Weez,
you were there in the back and It was taped
for Brother Weez show. Right, Brother Weiz was gonna drop
the yes, drop the question, and then he's he's shoving
popcorn in his face. And then when Snoozer asked the question,
and then Ozzie looks at him with popcorn falling out
of his mouth and goes, how do you ask me
a question when you just answered the question within the
question and all you hear in the background Stanley's laughing
his ants off. That was the best and every once
in a while. I don't know if we still plays
it or not, but it was a great piece.
Speaker 3: I remember Brother we was interviewing Pete Townsend, okay, and
that was that was an interesting interview. Why well, because
Pete was just it was driving Brother we was crazy
because Pete was not really wanting to be interviewed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's very cerebral.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and brother I don't think Brother We's appreciated anything
about I don't think Brothers knew much about him. No,
so I didn't really realize how, you know, the guy's
pretty mega guy. But he definitely came off as being like,
oh God, I don't want to do this, and you're
an idiot while you're asking well that wasn't that bad,
but it was clearly frustrated. You know, a lot of
one size and.
Speaker 1: Just my favorite was always I love Joe Walsh. Joe
Walsh is like my one of my favorite rock stars.
Speaker 3: He's a good interview I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think he was in once with Who's
On Fry and We're in on We's the Show? Years ago,
but I I just remember seeing the picture. I don't
think I was around for that, but those were I remember.
Joe Walsh just he was just funny and fun and irreverent,
didn't care, didn't seem to take himself too seriously, and
that's what I like. But my favorite is the song
Don't Come Around Here No More by Tom Petty, is
written about Joe Walsh showed up at at Stevie Nick's
house at five o'clock in the morning and they had
been dating and she had some huge party the night before.
And I forget who he wrote who Petty wrote that with,
but that guy was upstairs and he hears her screaming
at Joe Walsh, get out, yeah, don't come around don't
come around here, And now bar slams the door, and
so that became the title of the song.
Speaker 3: Funny, you got all the behind the scenes stories of
you know, the bands that they have, just a lot
of interviews now with you know, the Beatles producers and
the Pink Floyd guys. Yes and undering, understanding with all
those bands, all those bands that had any significant number
of hits. It's just it must have been so frustrating
to have, you know, a song that you'd written that
you thought was a hit, but everybody else in the
band thought the song yeah and yeah. I used to tell,
you know, record companies would say, you're not playing the
song off of the album that we want to play,
and I'd say, I don't care what the drummer's wife wants.
I'm going to play the best song on the album. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I always thought the I always thought, how cool
would it be to have written a song? And then,
like I remember asking Lou Gram this, you write a song,
or you co write a song, and it becomes so
big that you you show up on stage somewhere, huge
crowd in front of you and they're singing the words back.
That has got to be wild, just the whole while.
Speaker 3: It's just going on and having the audience react yes
to your stuff.
Speaker 1: It's that alone.
Speaker 3: You know, when I've I've done some stage work and
you know, stand up comedy. Occasionally, when you're ahead, that
feels great, awesome. There's no better high, probably no better
low than bombing.
Speaker 1: That's the I've only experienced one of those, and it
wasn't the high the bombing, but the bombing like if
you can kind of like if you can sort of
step out of your body, there's something tough, beautiful about
the body side.
Speaker 3: I always so you always learn more from when you bomb. Yes, yes,
you're not going to write new stuff if you're killing
with old.
Speaker 1: Stuff, but you're gonna do stand up again. Would you
ever do it if they did afternoon stand up?
Speaker 3: Maybe?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well this is late for me.
Speaker 1: This is what time are you going to.
Speaker 3: I'm usually about five thirty. I I nap until seven,
and then I get up and have dinner and watch
TV till nine, and then I'm gone and I'm up
at two.
Speaker 1: I read for a couple of hours, and then I
sleep from four to five, and then the dogs want
to eat.
Speaker 3: And then I'm up. And in the summertime and in
the springtime, the only time I can really farm from
five to about eight.
Speaker 1: Because you are farming. I do farm, Yeah, and in
the spring water in March because you brought in peaches
and a huge candalope.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had that. Canalops are a huge hit this year,
and I have. They've been real hit or missed for
me year after year. I the first year I farmed,
I had these candalops. They were honey dew cantalyops with
an orange flesh that was were amazing. And I've been
trying to replicate those ever since and failing miserably because
it's tough. Now these candalops, it's really easy to see
when they're ripe. First of all, they're about the size
of basketball, so yeah, it is, but a lot of
times to not like I have a whole I have
two whole rows of candlopes, probably twenty plants, and they
all produce like ten cantalopes, But you can't tell when
they're ripe. A lot of them, Like when you're in
the store, you can feel that they give a little
ye right, then they're ripe, right, And that's what these do. Okay,
but these are rare for some reason. I don't know,
maybe it's just me, but a lot of times I
go out there and I'm like, well, that's not ripe.
It's not it's not giving at all. And then by
the time it gives, it's rotten. Yeah, you know, so
I had a hit this year, but candlops are tough.
Speaker 1: Did you get Do you have a gun or anything
like a twenty two to go shoot some woodchucks and
things that come out? No, I don't. I want one,
you know, well, I want one for my RV. I
want a rifle for the RV.
Speaker 3: I want something legal I can take from state to
state in the RV because I travel with two Dobermint
pincers and sometimes another darg or two, and so most
campgrounds do not want you. They don't even want the
doberman's little alone, you know, more than one dog or
maybe two dogs, and I almost always a traveling with
more than two dogs. That was the other thing I
was gonna say about the r V was the only
reason I bought that damn thing was because I wanted
to be able to travel with the dogs. And I thought,
you know, this would be careful, you know, it'd be
perfect for the dogs. And we got back from that
trip from Utah, those port dogs. I was so stressed
that whole time. And I got back and I go,
that was no fun for you guys, that, oh was it?
They're in where we're parked in in this girl's house.
This is one of my goddaughters in Utah, and we're parked.
She was very nice and park the driveway and uh
and they had big parties because I was there and
I used to date their mother, okay, long before I
got the plumbing things straightened out. And uh so we're
at these parties and my dogs are there and they've
got there and everybody's.
Speaker 1: Feeding the dogs every oh no, how sick.
Speaker 3: So the next day I'm like, well, I'm gonna leave
the dogs in the arm. No, no, no, you got
to leave the dogs in the house. You gotta leave it.
They'll be better off in the house. Man, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Sure enough left in the house. Two and then she's
got nice white carpet, big aisles of liquid, fucking poop, brutal.
Speaker 6: And you know what I got back. I thought, you know,
this whole idea of traveling with the dogs, yeah, you
can do it, but they don't. Really, they don't. This
is not a treat for them. No, they're trapped in
this RV.
Speaker 3: That's terrible, and the whole rhythm everything's off when you live.
It's really interesting for me because I have never ever,
ever lived with a pack of dogs before.
Speaker 1: Iways had one, maybe two. How many do you have now?
Speaker 3: Five Jesus, three little one, three little minpens and two
Doberman pincers. And and I'm retired now, so there's a
whole different relationship when you with your dog. Number one,
when you're retired from when you're working. Sure, when I
was working, I was gone eight hours a day, nine
ten hours a day, and my interaction with the dog
is thirty minutes, right, and then okay, fine, eat and
go to bed. Boom, you know, wake up in the morning,
take it for a walk, boom, and they're they're sleeping
all day long in the housing. When you're retired, it's different.
Now you're with them all the time. And now it's
a pack of dogs. I'm not with one or two.
Speaker 1: I'm with the pack. You're like the leader of the
pack man.
Speaker 3: And I gotta tell you, I wouldn't have any other way.
I just don't. I don't think I could live without
it because they are such great companions. They all do
the same thing. They want the same thing at the
same time every day. If I say, is anybody hungry,
They're all, yes, let's go, let's eat. They're all excited.
We're gonna eat. Boom, Okay, let's all go outside. Everybody
goes outside.
Speaker 1: It's if you want to go for a walk, Yeah,
let's go for a walk. That's awesome.
Speaker 3: And it's just a completely different that. I find it
so interesting how my life has changed. And I'm glad
for the experience because I not only have you know,
I'm with them so much more, but I'm with a
pack of dogs. I'm a member of that pack.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: And if I sit down in my house and I
have company over, my dogs all sit around me or
on top of me. They are all with me.
Speaker 1: Everybody else will be sitting around the room, but you're there.
You're yeah, that is interesting. What have you learned like
since being retired? Maybe about yourself or or life? I mean,
do we take I always think that we live wrong.
I think we're conditioned wrong. I don't think. I don't
think the intention was to be wrong. I think it
was the way we were conditioned. Religion such fire and brimstone.
Speaker 3: I think I was fortunate that I wasn't raised in
a religious household. I was raised in a household that
actually was kind of anti religion, especially anti Catholic. So
then of course I became a Catholic. And I remember
my mother telling you one that they never baptized us.
And I remember asking my mother one to how come
we're not how come you to baptize us because all
my friends were baptized a little and everybody was a Catholic.
She said, well, you know, there are a lot of
fine religions, and when you get to be an adult,
you can make up your own mind what kind of
religion you want to be, Like, there are a lot
of fine religions, and then there's the Catholics. And my
mother hated Catholics. I think it was because our nextraor
neighbors were Catholic and they were like three quarters crazy.
Speaker 1: But I just think all the time when I look
at the stuff, I go, boy, we're chasing this thing,
chasing this thing, and I think we need to do
a little more to let it come to us. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I've just been really blessed because I've I always though
now I'm at that point in my life where I'm like, Okay,
I've done everything I want to do. There isn't anything else.
I'm getting to the point where I can't. Really, I'm
not gonna be able to farm like I want a
farm anymore, because it's just it's too much work. It's
a lot of work. And you know, if you love
it again, like making film, if you love it, you
do that work, and you won't the fact that you
make it fifty cents an hour. I don't care. In fact,
it was the same thing with radio. I didn't care.
I wasn't making that good of money for a long
time because I would have done it for free. Yes,
And that's the same thing with farming. And it was
the same thing with film. But I haven't found the
next thing. There is no once the farming's done. I
guess there's walking dogs. Maybe I'll become a dog, you know,
maybe dog walker. I could become not a dog walker.
But they have this thing now where and I have
enough land. I have eight acres of land. I could
kind of fence my thing off and become a respit
place for dogs. Oh, they've got this. They've got an
app you can I don't know what it's called, but
I get advertised for ore. You use your property and dogs.
You you take care of people's dogs for however long.
Speaker 1: It could be interesting.
Speaker 3: It probably wouldn't work with my dogs, though.
Speaker 1: Why don't we?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: We wrote roast jokes for each other. And I think
he wanted you to be the judge Stanley. He could
be the Jeff Ross, the Jeff Fross, the roast master.
So we'll take a ship the roast roasting, like you know,
like where we rip on each other basically.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh, Kevin has was very excited about this. I haven't.
I I'm a little hesitant, but we'll Uh.
Speaker 3: I wrote it doesn't work, then it doesn't work. It doesn't.
Speaker 1: Anybody want a piece of cake?
Speaker 3: That's great cake?
Speaker 1: Though? Yeah, I guarantee I go home and all this.
I'll wake up tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Let's pick up a little little thing of coffee ice
cream beat with that can. That would make it absolutely okay?
Speaker 1: We will. I will do that and we will do
the roast right after this. All right, listen up, beautiful humans,
intergalactic wanderers. Shila Tillic is something really amazing for you.
And no, it's not a coupon for free tacos. So honestly,
that would also be amazing. Sheila is a recovery metaphysician
and a galactic grandmother, which basically means she's the why
spiritual Yoda you wish you had, but with better hair.
Probably assess your laugh and guess what. She's hosting an
IT intensive workshop and no, not turn it off and
on again it We're talking integrated therapy all three levels,
taught by the Master Instructor trainer herself August twenty second
through the twenty fourth. It's a three day deep dive
into transformation, the kind of thing that makes your soul go,
oh yeah, baby, maybe that's just my soul. But here's
the kicker. You only have until August fifteenth to register,
so sprint over to Shila tilic dot com right now,
but don't trip. And that's just the warm up. Mark
your calendars for September twentieth through the twenty first, because
Sheila is hosting her IT Master Instructor class. It's a
two day life changing master level certification that will have
you strutting straight into your magnificence like you own the
cosmic runway. Yes, there are prerequisites for this class and
you can find out what they are at hilaitilic dot com.
But if you're ready to become the master of your
own life and live your soul's purpose, Shila is the
one to guide you there. Live big, Live bold, Live
in alignment with Sheila Tilic. Find out everything at Hila
tilic dot com. Oh, I see you have random, rusty,
ridiculous scrap metal all throughout your garage. I know that
scene holding on to that extra siding from two thousand
and eight. Come on, pack up that garage mess and
roll it down to Premiere Metal, Rochester's number one choice
for scrap. We're talking metal from auto jobs, plumbing, HVAC, roofing, siding.
If it's shiny, bendy and mysteriously dented, they want it
at Premiere Metal. You know that metal shelf that attacked
you in nineteen ninety eight, Get rid of it at
Premiere Medal. They offer the breast, I mean, best prices.
This is a scrap metal commercial, not a spelling bag.
Aluminum siding, electric motors, car wheels, copper wires, steel sheet metal,
three hundred series stainless steel, auto batteries, lead, and even
your ex's dumb weight bitch. Make cash clear space visit
Premiere metalgroup dot com or either of Premiere Metal state
of the art facilities, West Lindon Avenue in East Rochester
just minutes off four ninety or eleven carn Street in
Rochester just minutes off three ninety Premiere Metal. Be a
metal magician and turn that metal into cash with Premiere Metal.
Yeah this is New Stones, Yeah no it is not.
This is Keith Richards the album he gave me, but
this is their their last album. Hackney Diamonds would have
tested well.
Speaker 3: That. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought they sounded great. I thought, I mean, I
don't know what they did to mixed voice in this,
but it sounds.
Speaker 3: So I always find that really interesting is that, you know,
and I know now from listening to all those things
we were talking about backstage when they were young. You know,
when you're young and you and you're just that's all
you live for is writing songs. And they sit around
every day and they write songs all day, and you know,
eight out of ten of them sucked, but two are
pretty good and one's a hit, right, And I just
I found that really interesting. I think it would be very,
very frustrating. You had to be the guy in the
band like, you know, George Harrison, that could write really
good songs. Because in reality, now that we've got post
time to go, the songs with the legs from the
Beatles were from George Harrison, the ones that are going
to go on the next Geness it's my favorite. He
was my favorite Beatle. Yeah, George Harrison, so that I
didn't like the Beatles when I was younger. Actually I
hated him because they kept the four Seasons out of
Number one and the four Seasons from my band. But
when I was in college, I did some LSD. I
went to see and I went to see George Harrison's
Bangladesh concert in the movie Theater and I thought, I
was there, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 3: I'd never I'd never experienced any music like that. Two
drummers and god knows how many guitarists they had up
and then the whole thing worked. It was like a
natural wall of sound. And and I fell in love
with George Harrison after that. Yeah, like a lot of
the later stuff. But you know something, George Harrison, here
comes the Sun. I mean, these are songs that are
going to be around for Eric Clapton.
Speaker 1: Seems like he could just be a dick supposedly he
is good to be around, but he and George Harrison
were buddies and and he stole Harrison's wife or did
Harrison steal? No, it was Harrison's wife and that's what
Layla was written about her. And I go, and then
they puppeer on stage together after all.
Speaker 4: This, and I go.
Speaker 3: It, does you realize the girl wasn't worth any relationship
more than yeah?
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess that's really true, but that yeah,
I always went, man, I'd love to talk to these
guys because it was the same woman and she wound
up leaving for Eric Clapton.
Speaker 3: But George, yeah, well everybody was doing god knows what
drugs back.
Speaker 1: Then, and you know Clapton in the early nineties. I
had a girlfriend whose mom just loved Clapton and he
had that acoustic album that had come out, The Unplugged.
Oh you played that all the time. What do you
listen to? What do you listen to on your own?
Do you like? I'm a lot of Eagles?
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I like that kind of stuff. And you
know it's it's again YouTube music. Just they just do
an amazing job. I say, you know, play new Kid
in Town. By the Eagles, and four hours later on
so played and if I don't like it, to say next, right,
and they come up with a good song, you know,
and it's and and it's it's the deal where you know,
like when we were programming on radio, we were trying
to do to make the oh wow right, you know fact,
And it's tough to do oh wow when you're on
the radio because oh wow for us some people is
like completely unfamiliar for the vast majority. If it's an
oh wow, that means it hasn't been played for a
long time. And chances are it hasn't been played for
a long time because it didn't research well or whatever,
or it didn't sell well. But with YouTube, uh, you know,
you're in every day there's wow. I can't believe I
heard that song. I I literally haven't heard that song
of forty years and and I didn't like it very
much now but I like it now. What I just found.
Speaker 1: I just found a new Joe, you know, Joe South,
No Joe South.
Speaker 3: He did walk them out on my shoes and great artists,
not very big, but he had a couple of legitimate
top forty hits walk them out on my Shoes was
one of them, and uh, I can't remember what the
other one was, but I just YouTube just played one
that I'd never heard by him the other day, You
want to go Home. I want to go Home, And
I was like, wow, what a great too, and I
just get a kick out of it for thirty song.
Speaker 1: This is it?
Speaker 3: This is is this walk them out of my shoes?
Speaker 1: No, this is games people playing play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the big head. This is walking out
of my shoes with the follow.
Speaker 1: Up to this, So this has got to be like,
uh sick late six. Yeah, because I always thought the
Eagles were more of a country band until Joe Walsh
joined and came. Yeah, they were kind of soft and
softer and country isn't right because it's not what they were.
They were more Americana, but they were, Yeah, they could have,
you know, in a different yes age. I didn't know
and never heard of Joe South. He sounds made up.
He played with Benny's.
Speaker 3: Tommy North.
Speaker 1: All right, Kevin wants to He wanted to do a
roast in a roast battle. So I just wanted you. Yeah,
I wanted me to start writing some jokes and stuff
and I I haven't in a while. So the roast
is where I mean, you can really you know, you
gotta have some thick skin sometimes with these.
Speaker 4: So I'll give you take an example. I'll give you
an example. Bill, you're the human version of menstreal cramps. Okay,
why your eyes rolling in your head?
Speaker 1: Are you looking for your brain? Okay? All right, okay,
all right, okay, so your birthday? You can lead off?
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: So Kevin has three kids and they're all in hockey,
his sons. So Kevin is great hockey dad, which is
fitting because just like the Zamboni, he's slow, loud, and
leaves a puddle of beer behind wherever he goes.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, where's the left track?
Speaker 1: Track? Have a left track on? He didn't play, didn't
deserve it.
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. The left track is the most important
when they don't deserve it.
Speaker 1: So there you go. All right, Okay, all right, we're ready.
Do you look at you guy?
Speaker 4: No one has ever overestimated the only age who's son
in high school with your girlfriend's teds.
Speaker 3: The only turn the goddamn laugh track off when he's
delivering laughing to laugh and the joke's over.
Speaker 1: All right, hang on, you know what this bad producing,
bad producing. Kevin ignores his wife so much. She's basically
a hockey puck, always getting slapped around and passed to
the next guy.
Speaker 4: Okay, the kind of guy who could do cocaine and eat.
Speaker 1: One for Kevin? All right, here we go. Kevin is
so overweight and drunk all the time. The only cardio
he gets is hauling his gut up the bleachers and
yelling at reps like they're responsible for his sex life.
What do you mean, man, Yeah, I practice.
Speaker 3: He don't make fun of you can't. You can't call
the fat guy a fat guy. First of all, you know.
Speaker 1: That's that's not cool.
Speaker 3: All Kevin's a big guy.
Speaker 1: You look like a tobth operator a glory hole. Uh,
Kevin's a great well see, now here's another one that
I did. It's just similar. Kevin's a great hockey dad
because he lives through his boys success. Too bad. The
only thing he ever scored was type two diabetes. Not bad,
all right. You look at the kind of guy that
goes to the gym to skip on the treadmill. All right, okay,
Kevin's Uh, they liked it, Yeah, they did, They love it.
Kevin ignores his wife so much she should qualify for
a widow's pension. The only time he touches her is
when she makes mistake, when he mistakes her for a
plate of nachos in the dark.
Speaker 3: Okay, you gotta you gotta memorize the lines. Stumble on
a joke.
Speaker 1: I paused to see if they was gonna get any
reaction after the widow's pension. Okay, I eat meals with
my family.
Speaker 4: You eat meals and family sized bags and chips, And yes,
I completely understanding irony of.
Speaker 1: Me the pot calling you the kettle fat Kevin calls
hanging out in the garage. Kevin calls it hanging out
in the garage, but really it's just him chainsmoking, crushing beards,
and ignoring his wife so hard she's considering moving in
with Bob the neighbor for actual human contact.
Speaker 3: That's a long punch line, But the punchline is longer
than the setup.
Speaker 4: I've seen your already set, and I'm ashamed to admit
I've written some of it. But thank God, the only
impressions you leave are the ones you use on the
ground when you walk.
Speaker 1: I think Kevin won that we go back to the
one that really babe left. There was one in there,
the one that you're kind of eating cocaine. That's a
good one. Yeah, I call it Kevin. Yeah, all right,
that's all right. It's a It's Okay Sandy podcast. But no, no, no, no, no.
I I I got worked today a little bit better. Yeah.
Well he's been very excited about this all week, and
I was like, yeah, a little bit more. Yeah, I
had most of my day was getting for Verizon to
try to deliver a new phone before my son leaves
to see his mother because he broke his phone. And
well she didn't have to deal with customer services, said
you had to do it all online, right, No, yeah,
but I needed to talk to somebody and they outsource everything.
Speaker 3: Now, So is there anything else we can help you
with this?
Speaker 1: M m yes, that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 3: And that's.
Speaker 1: My name is Mike. Yeah, that's exactly what they do.
That is exactly what they do. Stanley. Any political thoughts
you are always a political guy at a pretty good Yeah.
Speaker 3: I am Debbie Downer on politics. I I I think
the thing that I find so frustrating about politics is
liberals really, which I consider myself a little.
Speaker 1: Bit Yeah, and Uh, well, I wish more people would
say that.
Speaker 3: I uh. I think the thing that liberals don't understand.
Two things that liberals don't understand is structurally we're at
a huge disadvantage in this country and in the world,
because typically liberal movements are made up of several smaller groups,
and conservatives are made up of typically two big business
and religion, right, and as long as they can throw
each other at bone every once in a while, they
can keep each other happy, whereas with with liberals, it's
you know, gays, uh, immigrants, maybe lesbians, whatever, there's a
half a dozen of them. They're slipping my mind. They
all are. But podcasters, podcasters, maybe not all podcasters, the
most big podcasters are at least they say they're not.
I think the money is in it, and the money,
but we're splintered, we as a group, and it's very
difficult to get people to understand that structurally we're a
deficit to begin with. So we have to unite, and
it's almost impossible. I mean, we're still fighting. Liberals are
still fighting over twenty sixteen, and we've lost the Senate,
and we've lost the House, and we've lost the Supreme
Court and we've lost the presidency. We've literally we've literally
lost by putting up two very competent, the two most
qualified candidates that we could run, Al Gore and Hillary Clinton,
and we lost those elections to people that were George
Wush is nowhere near as qualified to be president of
the United States as Al Gore was. And Hillary Clinton
was literally the most qualified candidate that we could find,
and we couldn't get her over the top because why
and and she loses to literally the most unqualified and
arguably one of the worst human beings that's ever lived
since the beginning of time, but very good at marketing. Yeah,
and we so we have to unify because we we
we we're deficit. The other thing a structural deficit. The
other thing that I find very frustrating is the idea. Okay,
I'm i going to lose my train of thought here.
It's like I'm stoned. I'm not even stoned the shoot,
I can't remember what the other thing I was going
to say.
Speaker 1: It's like Cato and Kevin Gilliner back right, Yeah, No,
We've got we That's the thing.
Speaker 3: The big piece is we're arguing now about who's going
to be the presidential candidate in twenty twenty eight. Mine,
that's all, that's all you talk about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is it going to be new?
Speaker 3: The guy in California who's the comes Newsom And that's
not what we should be focused on. The presidency is
nothing without the Senate and without the House. And we've
got the House and the Senate, major, major numbers of
those people are up for reelection in two years, not
even two years, a year and a half, not even
quite a year and a half. But we're fighting about
who we're going to nominate in twenty twenty eight. It
doesn't matter who we nominate in twenty twenty eight if
we don't have the House and we don't have the Senate.
Joe Manchin as president, we don't know who Joe Manson is, right,
Joe Manson's president would be way more effective for liberals
than Bernie Sanders if Joe Manchin had a Democratic House
and a Democratic center, right, Bernie Sanders would be if
he had a Republican House, Republican Senate, the House, in
the Senate, that's it's the Senate. Stupid. It used to
be my I used to have a logo.
Speaker 1: Or it's interesting because I often think like sometimes you know,
the pendulum swings right when we go so far one
way and back another and so far on. But it
does sometimes feel like we do become too splintered and
it's all about different interest groups interests, and we're not
the collective.
Speaker 3: Good Obama was a great example. Obama's elected, and he
has the House, and he has the Senate. He had
it for two years. Yeah, and they pass major healthcare
reform that was good for everybody. Arguably they haven't been
able to get rid of it because it was a
good thing and it was a Republican idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean they wanted universal healthcare. Republicans said, no,
do it this way. Keep big business involved well, and
keep the health insurance companies healthy and they can take
they can do the paperwork and be more efficient. And
maybe maybe it was in any case, he didn't take
care of immigrants. I was running an immigrant shelter in
Austin at the time. Didn't take care of immigrants. No,
And by two years later they're all pissed. How come
he hasn't done anything for Doc guy. You know, he's
always done his mouth and blah blah blah. He he
doesn't he can't do everything all at once. A president
can only do like one thing a year, one major
thing a year. That's all they can really do, even
if they have the House and they have the Senate.
So they're pissed. Gays are pissed because Obama won't do
marriage quick enough, and so two years later we lose
the House, we lose the Senate, and then they can't
do anything but do executive.
Speaker 1: Orders, which don't do squat four years later.
Speaker 3: So it's really important for liberals to understand that we
have to focus on what's important and what's important, that
the president is just a show piece, and Donald Trump
isn't easily the most effective president we've ever had since
this country has been affected because he knows that the
only power of the presidency is the bully pulpit. That's
what the president does. He monfor. He takes that bully
pulpit like nobody's ever done it and nobody will ever
probably do it again. Yeah, I mean, I remember when
Barack Obama was president. After ninety days, the big thing
was people are tired of Obama. They don't want to
hear anything more from Obama after ninety days, so he
toned it down. That's not what Donald Trump does.
Speaker 1: No, he rips it up. The motherhucker has been above
the fold every day for ten years. Yeah, you gotta
give him that. I have said often that if you
believe in something called the law of attraction, where you know,
you can kind of speak things into existence. This is
what people will say. I go, he does not speak
negatively about himself or about anything he's involved in. It's
always the biggest, the best. It's a big, beautiful bill.
It's this, it's that. Whether I don't know what it is,
I'm just looking, I'm just looking at the pattern throughout
his life. I go, Holy shit, he has And you're right.
Speaker 3: A great book written, Fire and Fury. There were two
books written after the two thousands sixteen campaign. One of
them was from that guy that looks like no, No,
the the consultant that he has that looks like he's
got or something I can't remember, Steve somebody. And they
they talked about it and in this book, and it's
totally come to be that all we do is shoot
at the wall and keep them talking about other shit.
And that makes no difference whatsoever whether they talk about it,
whether you know, you know, like single Gate was a
great example of them doing this because single Gate was
a legitimate problem for them. I mean that National secrets. Yes,
this was a bad one. If they could have really,
at least the moron that's running the best department could
have lost his job. But he didn't because the next
day Donald Trump's talking about running for a fourth term,
a third term, you know, and the podcast everybody believe
he's gonna run for a third term. Well, he's not
gonna run for a third term. The other ferd is
gonna quit next year. He's gonna get somebody to take over.
If I wouldn't be a bit surprised with what he
puts that little schmucker, it's the vice president as president,
so we can run as president. All he's got to
do is get the guy to say, look, and you
make sure that I get taken care of it. None
of my family's prosecuted for anything, and I'll take care
of you, and then I go play golf for the rest.
I'm gonna have to keep doing this every day, I
would bet, but that's my prediction.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I it's interesting, and I guess I'm glad
I'm alive to see it would be the thing. Yeah,
because only if nothing else, Like I always think this
to your point with the Senate and how I always
think what affects my daily life is usually local politics, right,
not so much of the national and so, and we
don't pay enough attention to that, and a lot of
this other shit is just noise. I don't watch the
news as much because I find it very depressing and
I like to try to be a little bit on
a higher vibration, so to speak, and so I will
do that. There are times I turn it on. I
want to see what's happening, but I'll read. I'd rather
read it. It's less impactful than hearing somebody go today.
Speaker 3: Because say fucking thing. I don't want to hear. You
can tell me what he says, but please don't play
the audience. Yeah, I don't want to hear the motherfucker.
Speaker 1: But well, and I have to say that I find
Donald Trump at times hysterical, which is we shouldn't, but
I do. Like were I think there was somebody trying
to talk about immigrants and she said something to the
effect of, we just need to keep the country safe,
and we're not we do love these people, and he goes,
I don't love everybody. I know, this guy's the best,
but again he's speaking a truth to a certain population.
Could we find a middle ground. That's the problem. I
feel like we've become so splintered. We want to say
on each side. I think with any within one side
is very splintered, very splintered, and it's too bad.
Speaker 3: Liberal movement is yeah, it's all the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And that's how strong men like that. They know they're
not going to get in, you know, you know, being
doing that with liberal stuff because it doesn't work. And
that's just the way that podcasting and you got Fox
News all the MSNBC doesn't work compared to that.
Speaker 1: The MS now I know, which is chased.
Speaker 3: Another brilliant things.
Speaker 1: He wants nothing to do with them.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 1: Trump says something like it's gonna fail. It awful, the terrible.
They gonna check and I just go, this is the you.
Speaker 3: Well, we have to hope that they're right because I'm
I've always been. I'm a rabbit, yellow dog Democrat, always
have been for Georgia McGovern The first my first election
when I was eighteen, and I voted for Democrats. Ever since,
I voted for one Republican here in town one time
because he's running on the independent line and lived to
regret it. But you know, it is what it is,
and you're absolutely right. At least it's entertaining. You got
to give the guy credit. Yeah, and maybe they're right. Yeah, fundamentally,
I don't think so. I think immigrants have been the
lifeblood of this country. Yes, it's absolutely outrageous what we're doing.
But you know, I talk to my neighbors who are
not as liberal as I am, and they but stand
it's effective and you can't argue with that. It absolutely
is effective. They have stopped the border crossing who wants
to come. Not only have they stopped the immigrants from
coming over, they're stopping the tourists from coming over because
tourists are afraid they're gonna get sent to El Salvador
and putting through a log. You know it's true, you're
right now. I mean it is effective. That's how much
is going to Yeah, it's going to be great. If
I live five more years, it'd be cool to see
what what happens.
Speaker 1: What happens next, Yeah, what happens next. There are people
that will say he was needed to get us to
where we need to go.
Speaker 3: Without a doubt. He's exposed us for what we really
are because prior to two thousand and six, everything about
the country that I thought we lived in, right, and
now it's now you see it. So now you gotta go, okay,
are we happy with this or we want to change it?
Speaker 1: Right? Wow, that's a good note to him. Not happy
with it or she could change it? Stanley. I am
honored that you took us mind.
Speaker 3: And drive all the way you'd have the old.
Speaker 1: It took.
Speaker 4: It took getting the supervisor of RAIGA to get Stanley
Commoud his a friend of mine.
Speaker 1: Oh really, you got the supervisor of RAYGA. Mister Brockt
is a good friend of mine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, really, my son, you didn't really know. He probably
knows my name because I ran for office over there?
Is it?
Speaker 1: Brad? You're telling you be rad?
Speaker 3: You know he's he's all right, he's a good guy.
Speaker 1: And I gotta say it's all Republicans and.
Speaker 3: I you know this is you're probably wrapping this.
Speaker 1: I was trying to go ahead.
Speaker 3: This is something that's frustrating for me when I ran Okay,
because I ran and I'm talking to that, I couldn't
say these I should say this. They won't be listening.
Some of the dumbest scrap I hear comes out of
the Democrat committees that I'm on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had one. I had one.
Speaker 3: I had one lady. I had one lady. I think
she's still in the committee. And she told me one
day at a picnic, she said she couldn't vote for RANDERW.
Speaker 1: Cuomo.
Speaker 3: And I said, why not. He's a he's a good Democrat,
and he's done a pretty good job as governor. He
got gay marriage in before long. He got good gun
control laws in here that have actually saved a few lives.
What what is it that you don't like about him?
He's the reason that children are texting while they're driving now.
And I said, well, why would you say that. He
made it illegal for them to talk on their cell phone,
so now they text on their cell phone. I said,
you weren't serious. You can't be serious.
Speaker 1: Now there's a touch free right New York City is
you can't touch your phone while you're driving. You get
a ticket.
Speaker 3: But the whole idea and did anything but sign the bill,
didn't do it?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And that's that's the kind of thing that
you know.
Speaker 1: I just there's non thinking and and ridiculous, and sometimes
I think we go to extreme and everybody's out for
their own interest or not looking at the right thing,
you know. I mean, ball reform is a big one
that has caused lots of problems for people. Right with
all these keys that had been selling his kid after
kid that got out got out. I think they I
think the kid the guy who was stocking women on
the canal and then followed somebody. He had been released
two or three times, but again, but the spirit of
the law that was made I think was good.
Speaker 3: Was good. But then they want to they want to
get rid of it. That's the guy I was talking.
I can't remember the stupid Republican's name. That the first
thing he did to me. I was at the computer
sports launching one time.
Speaker 1: He comes up to me goes, it's dead criminals out
on the street, and.
Speaker 3: Like, no, they're not. They're not letting the criminals out
on the street anymore than they're letting the millionaires out
on the street. They can they can pay their paid
for bail. I mean, they haven't been convicted of anything.
They shouldn't be in prison. We don't put enough money
into our justice system so that they get rapids right,
So they need to be able to get out if
they haven't committed a violent act. Okay, so if they are,
you know, taking advantage of that law, then you modify
the law, but you don't get rid of the law,
which is what they want to do because they want
to keep They don't like poor people breaking the law,
so they want to put them away, so they don't
bring the law right.
Speaker 1: And I think the spirit of the law to me,
and I've said this all the time, is great. But
then what happens is it's like, you know, the road
to hell is paid with good intentions, all of a
sudden it goes too far in some way. And is
there a way to put guardrails on these things?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Every but every action has a reaction, right, so
you've just got to deal with the reaction. You got
to bring it back. But that's not what they want
to do. They want it they want to hyper bob
hyper or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they want to make it all hyperbole and it's
the worst in the world and.
Speaker 3: Things that people and you know, these they were violent
criminals out. No, they weren't letting violent criminals. They were
letting mischievous kids out, you know, and if they were violent,
then they couldn't do it because that was part of
the law.
Speaker 1: We's hit the song, Candles in the cars. God, those
fights were the best. Oh, Dave would get pissed. He
would come storming in and screaming because it was all
the commercials that were left. That's what you would get. Yeah,
for Stanley Maine, Kevin Muir, I'm Bill Moran. We'll see
you on.
Speaker 2: I turn a TV on and rule a letter to
you and this will stop in by the dagoning about
me in inter statement.
Speaker 1: You see, they were looking for a kind of light
with Tennessee