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Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons. Throwing some ice,

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mix in some vodka.

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Speaker 2: A podcast from the Mac of All Trade Studio in

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Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots jeep Ram.

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Speaker 1: It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast. Well, hello and welcome.

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Thanks for getting your pot on. Thanks for telling a friend.

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That's how he spread the word about the pirate ship.

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Kevin's been teasing me all week. I got somebody special

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coming in on Thursday. I got somebody special coming So

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now I get nervous about what what's gonna happen? Who's

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it gonna be nervous for? I couldn't be more relieved

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when I saw that it was Standley made. I told

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you to be fine. I did, and I was like, oh,

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this is awesome, this is tough.

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Speaker 3: I was surprised my agent could make this.

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Speaker 1: Well, wives, I am surprised you should helping.

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Speaker 3: Me out or really yeah you have? You are really

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high on the scale.

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess so that's pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Body of this Calibrian. Well, Stanley, their numbers are going

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through the roof. I can feel it all right.

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Speaker 1: How many how many years in radio are you? Stanley?

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How many years did you just shy of forty, just

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shy of forty years and you were mostly here.

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Speaker 3: But you did the most.

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Speaker 1: Ten.

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Speaker 3: I did Austin for ten, I did here for oh,

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I did here twenty. I was in California for three.

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I was in Utah for three. I was in Fargo

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for seven months.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where you did a morning show. Me.

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Speaker 3: I did a morning show there, did a morning show

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in Salt Lake City too.

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Speaker 4: You only going to Fargo for seven months because you

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can only take it for seven months.

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Speaker 3: When I got to Fargo, it was the beginning of spring.

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All they talk about in Fargo, North Dakota is get ready,

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get ready, wade o. Winter comes. You're not gonna believe

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what winter is. So they go crazy. When I was there,

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I mean there was more drunk and crazy partying going

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on than any other town I'd ever.

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Speaker 1: Been, nothing else I do.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's true. There was actually quite

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a bit to do. They're beautiful. They all went to

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I think it was ten Thousand Lakes or whatever that

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was in Minnesota. But they would all get drunk. The

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whole town would empty out a lot of drinking, and

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all they talked about was how bad the winter was

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going to be and I got the job at WCMF

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in October, Oh and moved. I was there from the

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beginning of spring till October. So I never I never

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had a wow missed the winter. Really, I'm here for winter,

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which was no.

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Speaker 1: But you were. You were doing a morning show there

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in Fargo. Yeah, yeah, and then you left mornings to

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program Yeah, uh okay, I did absolutely. Do you ever missed?

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Speaker 3: I was a program director and morning show.

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Speaker 1: Ah, okay, do you ever miss because you never seem

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to miss There was never a longing I got from

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you about being on the air. No, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I never did. I got tired of it. Once you

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do morning radio, then you can't really do any other shift.

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Speaker 1: That's true. I agree with that.

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Speaker 3: And so I wasn't really a CMF. We had brother Wee's,

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so there was no There was really no call for

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my act, which was more of a morning zoo kind

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of ye.

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Speaker 1: I would have loved that, but that was it. That

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was Stanley. So stan is the guy who hired me

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at CMF. I was a senior at Fisher and I

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sent a tape. How drunk were you?

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Speaker 3: You know? I don't remember. I don't remember hiring you.

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I remember hiring Mark kid that works at Wegmans now

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Mark Cronin. I remember hiring Mark Krawn and he walked

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in and Peter Coffrom, the general manager, had said, look

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at there's anything you do with this kid, get him

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in here. And he came in and somebody flaked out

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that day in the promotion department or something, and I said,

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can you start now? And he said yes, and I

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said you're hired. I didn't even asked him any other question.

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Speaker 1: The body that's funny. Yeah, I sent a tape I

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was still in college. You hired me part time.

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Speaker 3: You listen to my tape, you were pretty. You're a natural.

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I mean you've got you got a natural. You got

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that radio voice. At the time, at the time, you

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had to have that voice. Louise was the exception at

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the time. He was everybody else had to have the

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big deep.

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Speaker 4: Yeah and then uh, that big bit you did Crackhead

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Theater at four o'clock in the morning Collin phone booth,

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Speaker 1: I used to, because I said, I sent a tape

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of every stupid thing I did at WPDH because I

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was midnight to six for a year. I got it

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was a mutual understanding that I was going to leave

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Saint John Fisher until I could mature a little bit

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between my father and the college. I was surprised, and

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it still hasn't happened. I spent the summer doing Midnight

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to six, and then they said you want to stay

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for the you know, stay on and I said, yes,

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in the morning show, No from midnight to six, stay on,

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meaning when I was supposed to go back to school

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at the end to August, they said, stay on for

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the year.

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Speaker 3: So how far had you gotten along with school?

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Speaker 1: I was three years in. I had one more year ago,

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and so that was when I would call up. I

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got bored playing music, so at three o'clock in the morning,

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I would just open the phones so I would say who's

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up and why? I would look for people who.

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Speaker 3: Are in the program. Doctor didn't care what didn't listen?

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Speaker 1: Didn't listen? Well, then one day said he was drinking

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and he pulled over to the side of the road

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and he listened, and he goes. I loved it. And

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then the owner of the station was a guy named

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Rob Dyson at the time, and Dyson was really cool.

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It took me down to Lime Rock Raceway. I got

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to see Paul Newman racing from a distance and all

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he raced porsches, this guy and he said to me,

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why don't you stay and do nights and then eventually

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be my morning guy. And I go, well, education's a

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really big deal to my family, and he said, well,

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I have a building named after me on Merri's College campus.

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So I went home and I told my dad, and

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he goes, here's the deal. You can do that find

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a way to pay for yourself. You can find your

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own apartment and go to Maras, or you can I

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will pay for you to finish at Fisher. He goes,

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but for the summer, you have to go live with

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your uncle in Park City, Park City of Utah. Yeah,

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so I did. My uncle was a pilot for Delta

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based out of Salt Lake, and I went and spent

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the summer.

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Speaker 3: There where I did my theater debut all up.

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Speaker 1: In Park City, Park City, Yeah, at the Deer Valley.

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Speaker 3: I don't remember the name of the theater. It was

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Leonard Vole in Agatha Christie's Witness for the Prosecution.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yes, so that I loved it there in this

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I was there for the summer, and then they were saying, Kennedy,

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stay for the you know, do you want to stay

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and be a lifting you want to work at the mountains.

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I went back and I went to Fisher and my

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old man says, hey, you need to you need to

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get a job. So I sent the tape to you

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and that was it.

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Speaker 3: I got hired and and I just called you in

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and said, what I hear you? I don't remember you

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hire me to be uh promotions or something?

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Speaker 1: No to do weekends? Yeah, I was feeling filling a weekends.

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Sometimes it's feeling for Dave Kane. Sometimes I would spending

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on my class schedule and I would just come in, Well,

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you had me, and that was it. Obviously you're a

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talented guy.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Business for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in it for a long time. But

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you know, things changed. The business has changed. That's the

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that's sort of the I don't know what the hell's happening.

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Speaker 3: Over here again. I think you're getting another pizza.

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Speaker 1: But the business has changed so much, and I I

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still think like there's a part of me that goes

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Radio's viable. If you did it a little differently. I

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think that they've gotten too big and lost touch with

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the community, and you're not going to compete against like

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you said.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I you know, I programmed radio stations for a

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long long time, and I was big into research and

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focusing on individual markets and finding out because different markets

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are different. They a lot of people say that's not true.

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I you know, it's all the same.

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Speaker 1: I mean, back in the day, bands would come out

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of areas because they got played on certain radio.

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Speaker 3: Stations, love Rochester the only place they could get a

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crowd YEP. And but they you know, one of the

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advantages radio local radio had was that they could research

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the market and figure out what the history of radio

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had been in how it had influenced the listeners. Because

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if you're in a market that had three top forty

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radio stations and no album rock station, the tastes in

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music are a lot different from a market that had

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three rock stations in hotel or one top forty station.

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It does make a big difference. And they've just walked away,

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they walked from all away from all that twenty years ago.

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And I was in it, and they're hiring me and

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paying me pretty good money. To program, and I kept

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telling them, look at I'm a numbers guy, okay, and

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you're not giving me any numbers. So I'm just pulling

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shit out of my butt this and they're like, we

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trust your gut. You just do what you think is right.

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Speaker 1: Don't work.

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Speaker 3: Research is just going to confirm with you.

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Speaker 1: You got lucky butt. You got a lucky butt. I'm like, okay,

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you're all good. Fine, I don't do it. That's the uh.

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But what got you into radio to begin with?

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Speaker 3: I always want to be in Dan Ingram?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure, no, I did know Dan Ingram. Dan

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Ingram was one of the MCA good guys I listened to.

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Speaker 3: He was a w ABC, w ABC, Oka ABC. He

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was you know Bruce Harrison or Bruce Morrow. Yeah, cousin

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Bruce and Brucey. There was a bunch Harry Harrison, her

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Boscar Anderson. I woke up every morning herb Boscar Anderson singing.

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He would sing in the morning. He would sing. At

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six o'clock in the morning, my alarm clock would go

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off and he would be on, it's that time again.

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Here's my best to you. Are your skies all gray?

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I hope they're blue? That's what I woke up to

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every morning where was This Island New York City radio

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on the zone in the morning when we were doing

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mornings there you getting up with singing some John Hyatt

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for Everybody's interesting. And I mean, I just always knew

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that I wanted to be on the radio. And I too,

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and I was in a I was from a pretty

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affluent community and Long Island, and frequently, you know, my

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friend's parents would say, and so, Stan, what do you

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want to be when you grow up? And I'd go

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A disc jockey and they'd laugh, you know, and my

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friends would go, come on, you got to get a

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real job. You know, you can't be a real disc jockey.

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And I got to tell you, most of those guys

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followed and did what their parents said. Man their parents

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automobile company, became a lawyer, became a doctor, and I'd

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say eight out of ten of them were miserable. And

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I was getting paid my whole life to do something

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I would have gladly done for free. I mean, I

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love to be in the radio. I didn't care that.

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I wasn't really ever that into uh talking on the radio,

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was more into the researching of it, and figuring out

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what people wanted to hear and the music part of.

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Speaker 1: It, because then the uh, I mean you had a

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just you were there for the heyday of all the

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ship with CMF all right like that was.

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Speaker 3: Brother Weis had been the morning show host I think

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for about six months or something when I they hired me,

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and they really they were concerned. They didn't think he

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was going to make it. They really liked him and

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they thought that was potential, but they didn't. His ratings

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were he was under the radio station. It wasn't really delivering,

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but it was. He was new at it. And you know,

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Brother Weis, he's kind of a rebel and he didn't

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he didn't want to follow any rules of course, use

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any proven paths. But we did have a producer, Larry Norton,

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who later went on to be.

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Speaker 1: The host of Storton Norton in Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And he was kind of the first producer I'd never worked.

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I was, I did Morning was ready and far before

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I took the job. A producer who's got to produce it, right?

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But it was a producer and Barry Norton he was

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He produced Brother Ways as much as Brotherways would allow

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anybody to produce him. Yeah, and so that was that

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was kind of interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean I think there was all that

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was because I came in in ninety four and I

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would hang around that was it was eighty six, so

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you were already there for almost a decade by the

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time I came in, because I just remember like it

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was chaotic, it was, but it was it was an

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organized or well no, you had just moved to win

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to win and road. Yeah, and that's when.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was those were because we were we had

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merged with moremon at that time.

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Speaker 1: That was right, Okay, So I came in just as

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Suzann MacDonald was there and then the merger happened. So

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I was just before that merger when when they came

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over and then you were wound up programming to radio.

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Speaker 3: STAPs like one of the first programmers in the country

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to get to this is a McDonald.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. For me, yeah, it was that good or bad.

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Speaker 3: It was fantastic. It was huge. Gave me exposure in

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a whole different format. And the other format was adult contemporary,

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which is a lot more lucrative format. At the time,

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album rock was just the men and men have never

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been what advertisers are looking for Uh now it's more

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I think advertisers search more for men. But back then

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it was always women. Men made the money, but women

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spent it. So advertisers were looking for women, right.

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Speaker 1: The one of the things that I sort of now

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look back and go, I wonder if I should have Uh,

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not that I regret it, but they they were pushing

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and I don't know you. You were the program, Direcord,

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but I don't know if it was you trying to

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get me to be the love doctor at night a

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warm well.

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Speaker 3: We were always looking for somebody that was going We

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had some pretty weird guys that love I can't remember

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the day Chris, your doctor, but he used to have

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the girlfriend in the Do you remember this she had?

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Speaker 1: He had a girlfriend. He looked like a Farcy character.

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Oh yeah, he did very odd. He was very odd man.

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And then she was in a wheelchair and he used

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to bring her in at night and we'd be down

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at CMF once a while we go look and he

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would prop her up onto the console. She would sit

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there while he did his breaks and stuff, like a muppet.

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She's just sitting there her legs.

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Speaker 3: I never knew. Oh, yeah, yeah, I don't think the

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Love Doctor was on that long.

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Speaker 1: No, So they were trying to get me to go

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do it, and they.

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Speaker 3: Remember what happened with him, but I know there was

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a lot of odd stuff that went on with that.

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Speaker 1: So the only time Stanley ever really yelled at me.

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I used to get all the time, this is what

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you would say to me, honey, don't turn it into

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a gas station. But the best was I So they

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asked me to fill it on warm, and I'm filling

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in and I'm I'm bored, and I don't want to

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be on warm. I want to on CMF. And why

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am I down here? And you have the perfect voice

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for it? Well, I didn't see. And the thing was,

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had I embraced it, you probably could have done something

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with that that would have been a little different, a

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little more enjoyable.

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Speaker 3: Whole thing putts out eventually, the whole love song.

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Speaker 1: It did like pillow talk with Alan whatever, and uh,

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so I'm down there and I didn't want to do it,

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and so I would when I had to backsell, I

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would always slip in like uh yellow River by ip

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daily and brown Spots on the wall. Yes, yes I did.

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I didn't do it on warm. And there was one

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time though that I pushed a wrong button and I

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don't know what I did, and the mic was still up,

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and I'm like, like, I made some noise and you

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hotline me and go that kind of shit will fly

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on CMF. Don't do that on war on one point

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three ever again. And then you came to me later

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and apologize, and I go, no, I'm sorry, I said

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I I had a panicked moment because I couldn't figure

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out the At the moment, I couldn't I hit something

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and the mic was still on. But I'm like, you

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never knew that I was backselling ip Deli and Brown

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Spots who a lot? I know.

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Speaker 3: I used to like to kind of freak out the

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jocks by calling them at two o'clock in the morning,

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Uncle Roger. I used to call at two o'clock in America, Roger,

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what are you doing? Because you know, he'd go off

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and play a record that wasn't on the list, and

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I'd say, Roger, it's not just supposed to be doing

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to me. Oh, I didn't know you'd be listening. I'm listening,

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and that's why I always want. I had a radio

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on in I had the toilet in the in the bathroom,

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and anytime i'd go to the toilet, I'd hear two

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three minutes of the radio station wow. And I would

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call up a lot of times sometimes just to say hey,

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it was a good break, you know, just so that

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they would always listening, right, because I always wanted them to.

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But I didn't listen that much, but I I wanted

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the aura that I was, Oh.

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Speaker 1: You did it. You had the aura to make that happen. Yeah,

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that was funny. They glad you never heard the doctor

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who flung she or yellow River or help round spun. Yeah,

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because I was like, I don't want to do this.

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And then once in a while I would get a

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guy who would call up and go, amranimals that you

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are warm up stating with. My girlfriend listened to the

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radio like yeah, that was it. That was the That

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was that was the beginning. That was Those were fun

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times and they were a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: They had great two radio stations that were kicking ass.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Really it was incredible and hard to do.

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Speaker 3: And the radio stations were printing money. Yeah, literally, w

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CMF for a while there was grossing more money than

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they paid for the radio station.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Complete every year they would they would literally pay for them.

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Speaker 1: I remember some of the numbers that they were bringing

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in out of the market, and that was it was

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pretty impressive what they did. That was a real hospital.

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Speaker 3: One time, brother, We's had twenty twenty five share with

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twenty five to fifty four year.

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Speaker 1: Old Yeah, adults, twenty five, that's a quarter. I thought

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it was even Oh with adults with excuse me, with adults,

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because I know with men it was like, oh man,

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it was ridiculous, right, But you're right, there were astronomical numbers.

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It was unheard of and it was yeah, and you

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were at the helm of all that. It was your fault.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if that was my way. I

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didn't get in the way of it.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing is, like you needed to be there.

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It was very rare that you would find a program

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director that would not get in the way of it,

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because later on I found guys and they they would

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get in the way. And there was one or two

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I found like that were similar to you, but not many.

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Speaker 3: A lot of times there were I did consulting, yeah,

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the last part of my career, and we go over

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and especially it did a lot of it in Canada

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working on morning radio shows, and it was probably the

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toughest thing about being a consultant was not convincing the

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morning show to take chances and to grow do new things.

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It was getting the management to go, hey, if they

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do new things and screw up, go in and compliment them, right,

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Know that you appreciate the fact that they're trying different things, right,

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And don't get upset because they leave the radio station

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at ten o'clock in the morning and go live a crazy.

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Speaker 1: Life, right, because that's that's what you want.

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Speaker 3: You want them to come in and bring stories about

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their crazy life so people can live through them. But

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you'd run across quite a few program directors it would

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be oh no, no, no, they I'm really upset they walk

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out at nine fifty nine. Who cares? You know.

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Speaker 1: I used to make a joke that like you could

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catch Tommy or Wieze. They were here in the last

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part of the show and delay. They were already asking

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their cars.

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Speaker 3: They're work with Tony Infantino too, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

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yeah there, yeah, you know they would their show was

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really over at eight thirty, but they voice tracked the

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last hour and a half. Yeah, you know, salespeople would

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be like, what these people, these people don't do anything,

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you know, all right, Yeah, well they they go out

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and they have a life, and then they come in

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and they talk about their life. Yeah, they're not going

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to have much of a life if they're sitting talking,

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they're looking at a computer monitor all long, typing memos.

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That's not a life that most people fantasize.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not at all. It's not not the thing.

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Why don't we take a We'll take a short break.

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And then Stanley has had such a vast array of things,

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hobbies that you dipped into from movies to now farming

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and uh, you know. The other thing I was thought

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about you was I always said that Stanley was very

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very giving. You really really supported a lot of people.

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You really helped a lot of people along the way.

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I think I once said, he's like Jesus without the Church,

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of Jesus complex without the church. I don't think of

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Jesus complex. I don't mean that. I don't mean it

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that way. But Stanley, I mean you opened your home

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to people. You have supported kids, you have helped families,

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You've done all kinds.

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Speaker 3: Of I have I was in Compere.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, program.

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Speaker 3: I was on the board for for many years of

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comp here, and I had a comp here all the

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way through about two. I was in fifteen sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And the first kid that I volunteered with is now

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fifty five years old. Damn it was fifteen. Yeah, it

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was fifteen when it started. Fifty five years old just

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about my age calls me every day still every day.

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He and his twin brother. I hear from them almost

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wait everything.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I know the guys Danny and David. Yes, Danny

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and David. They're fifty five now, fifty five years old. God,

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damn Danny and David. I do remember Danny and David

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coming around the radio station.

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Speaker 3: They were they would they would take the wan out.

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Yeah they yeah, we're the ben Oh god.

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Speaker 1: They were funny as hell. They were funny as hell.

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I recall.

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Speaker 4: We still are and we'll take a moment birthday gifts too.

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Now I'm gonna just arrived that we have to talk

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to you about too.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all that coming up. Victor Chrysler dodgeyp Ram knows

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school's just about back in session, and that means kids

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activities are kicking in and your calendar looks like a

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game of Tetris gun horribly wrong. You need a ride

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that's reliable, safe, and makes you look cooler than the

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dad with the minivan. How about this a brand new

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twenty twenty five Jeep wagoneer S Limited four XC. Lease

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it for just one ninety nine a month for twenty

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four months. That's right, two benjamins and a spare dollar bill.

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First payment, DMV taxes and fees do with signing twenty

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five hundred casher trade seventy five hundred miles a year.

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Conquest required. See dealer for details. Exclusives apply. Or maybe

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you're thinking, forget soccer practice, I want to haul stuff.

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Then get into a twenty twenty five Ram Tradesman crew

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cab four by four. Lease it for just three seventy

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nine a month for forty two months. First payment, DMV

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taxes and fees do with signing thirty five hundred castor

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trade ten thousand miles per year. Conquest required. Basically, it's

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The Cobblestone chop Drop is back. Are you familiar with

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cobblestones chop drop? This is where they take a pork

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chop and they prepare it in some really unique, fantastic way.

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This time it's a grilled pork chop glazed in a

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rich bourbon sauce, served over steamed cabbage and lionaised potatoes. Yep,

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it only at Cobblestone on Maine. One on nine West

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or planning the perfect date night, Cobblestone's got you covered.

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The Cobblestone chop Drop. You don't want to miss this one.

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It's Cobblestone on Maine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh huh, Sammy doing it Sammy Hagar.

493
00:24:21,039 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: Look at that Sammy Hagar doing a Happy Birthday signed

494
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,559
the McCartney out my phone, A couples ago. That's all

495
00:24:27,559 --> 00:24:31,680
covers of all the McCarty and Wing songs, and it was, yeah,

496
00:24:31,839 --> 00:24:32,599
pretty good stuff.

497
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 3: Always wife Sammy.

498
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: Sammy Hagar was considered. I didn't realize who is a

499
00:24:37,799 --> 00:24:40,039
Paul Pendleton or somebody who was a producer said he

500
00:24:40,079 --> 00:24:45,880
was the best singer in rock in Rock's you know.

501
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,200
I mean, Graham was pretty damn.

502
00:24:48,039 --> 00:24:55,079
Speaker 3: Good from my perspective. Van Halen fans clearly preferred. Most

503
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,359
of them preferred David Lee Rock.

504
00:24:56,799 --> 00:25:00,279
Speaker 1: So it's so said I am seeing David I'm not.

505
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 3: I'm the same way I thought most of the stuff.

506
00:25:04,079 --> 00:25:07,319
Speaker 1: David Lee Roth is out on tour right now, and

507
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:08,559
I should have pulled the audio.

508
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:09,799
Speaker 3: He's got to be one hundred years.

509
00:25:09,839 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: Seventy years old and he people went down to see

510
00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:15,720
him a I think it was still Oh turning Stone buddy,

511
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,400
and they said the show was great. I see a show.

512
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,720
I think it was South Dakota or I don't know where.

513
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 4: It was so hard rock South Miami, Okay, where he

514
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:24,720
couldn't sing at all.

515
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're showing it he's out in the leather and

516
00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:30,400
he's dancing around and just looks so bad and he

517
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,079
sounds awful. And then some ladies posting like she's got

518
00:25:34,079 --> 00:25:35,599
her face in it, and then she's showing David le

519
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,720
Ross because I wasted so much money on this. I

520
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,039
mean it really sounded bad.

521
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and with auto tune or whatever they have nowadays,

522
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,039
that's a.

523
00:25:43,839 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: Trying to Singana Booser, which was.

524
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 3: Like anybody, anybody should be able to do it with.

525
00:25:48,799 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 1: Yes, somebody could come along and help you to say it.

526
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 3: By Frankie Valley, he's like, you know, eighty something.

527
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:53,759
Speaker 1: Yes, he's still out.

528
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 3: I saw him not that long ago finger Lakes and

529
00:25:57,319 --> 00:26:01,359
he signed great. And then I read somewhere that it's

530
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,920
not really his voice anymore. It's just as a auto

531
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,920
tuned up. They they can make anybody. You and I

532
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,680
could go out and do a duet there the auto

533
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,440
tune and it would sound halfway decent.

534
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: That would be something that would be very interesting.

535
00:26:15,559 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 3: I think it's called auto tune.

536
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is all tune, uh ask. I'm trying to

537
00:26:20,839 --> 00:26:23,240
think of all the different things, because you had to

538
00:26:23,319 --> 00:26:26,920
have some crazy, crazy times in radio, like things that

539
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:27,559
were just.

540
00:26:28,079 --> 00:26:30,079
Speaker 3: There was a lot of drugs, Yeah, a lot of

541
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,880
drugs and a lot of booth that things were different.

542
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:33,519
Speaker 1: They were very different.

543
00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 3: When I talked to kids today about what my life

544
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,359
was like when I was their age, I mean I

545
00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:43,279
would we would all be in jail, you know. I

546
00:26:43,319 --> 00:26:47,480
mean in l Paso, Texas. I was the assistant program director,

547
00:26:47,519 --> 00:26:50,359
production director, I can't remember it k E LP and

548
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,279
Al Paso, Texas. And we were in a very nice

549
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:58,680
executive center building and my boss would come get me

550
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,640
in the morning. The general manager would pick me up.

551
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,440
I went to college in the morning, and he'd pick

552
00:27:02,519 --> 00:27:06,160
me up and we'd go out and have get really high.

553
00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:08,640
I had. My roommate was from Lebanon. He had this

554
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,119
huge bong that we weren't supposed to use, and we'd

555
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,240
get really high and go out and find the dumpiest

556
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,799
Mexican restaurants we could find. Our Passo's got a Mexican

557
00:27:16,799 --> 00:27:20,640
restaurant every corner, and the crappier the place is, typically

558
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:27,079
the better the food is. It's great. And then we

559
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,880
would come to work and we would after an hour

560
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,200
or two, we would have a little circle out right

561
00:27:35,279 --> 00:27:38,039
near the exit of the building, just a circle pow

562
00:27:38,039 --> 00:27:41,000
wow passing and joint around. This was in the nineteen

563
00:27:41,079 --> 00:27:44,160
seventies and then you could get yourself in a lot

564
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,799
of trouble, but you really didn't worry about this. Everybody

565
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:52,880
was smoking pot back then. And you know, my sixteen

566
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,640
year old inter would come in with a six pack

567
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,960
of beer at six o'clock. My shift went till seven.

568
00:27:57,319 --> 00:27:58,920
He'd come in with a six pack of beer at

569
00:27:59,079 --> 00:28:02,160
exit o'clock and we'd be drinking beer and.

570
00:28:01,519 --> 00:28:05,319
Speaker 1: That was it. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, No that none

571
00:28:05,319 --> 00:28:07,599
of that ship flies today. No, none of that.

572
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,559
Speaker 3: We had a disc jockey or one of the talent

573
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:18,799
on at night on p x Y and he did something.

574
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,319
He came to work slightly high.

575
00:28:22,519 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, said he might have been slightly high. You know,

576
00:28:24,759 --> 00:28:25,000
I know.

577
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 3: It was a big thing. It was a huge thing,

578
00:28:27,319 --> 00:28:29,480
and I had to, you know, I had to get involved,

579
00:28:29,519 --> 00:28:32,160
and they wanted, I want memos, we want this document.

580
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,000
I like, come on, guys, I mean, if.

581
00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: It was cocaine, it wasn't norm It wasn't cocaine. Definitely.

582
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 3: It seemed I know, ludicrous because I remembered.

583
00:28:42,759 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: I think he drove the van and they thought he

584
00:28:44,759 --> 00:28:47,440
was high. Maybe he did an appearance and they didn't

585
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,200
have somebody, so he drove the van. He said I'll

586
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,559
drive it, and they said he was high, and then

587
00:28:51,559 --> 00:28:54,240
he wound up going down to the islands. I know exactly. Yes,

588
00:28:54,359 --> 00:28:58,240
I think he's teaching in Nevada at UNLV.

589
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, interesting, I remember him. Yeah, And I felt

590
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,960
bad for him because I felt like.

591
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: He it was kind of I did too. I agree,

592
00:29:05,079 --> 00:29:07,720
and it was it got a little crazy. That was

593
00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:10,559
you mentioned the guy that you because you did kind

594
00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:13,880
of two shifts in Rochester at CMF. The guy you

595
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,279
replaced was he was like it could be your best

596
00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:21,799
buddy or your worst enemy. And I have so many

597
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,000
stories about that guy. Like there was I used to

598
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,319
play a game in the afternoon strip trivia and there

599
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,599
was a woman, a listener who would always come up

600
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,200
and her husband traveled, and I think she was just

601
00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:38,400
looking for attention, and so she would come up and

602
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,279
it would be her against a listener and I would

603
00:29:40,319 --> 00:29:44,039
never let her really lose. Well, one day she cost me.

604
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,880
That guy took her out to a hotel and slept

605
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:48,160
with her.

606
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,759
Speaker 3: Well, there was all sorts of memories about him. He

607
00:29:50,839 --> 00:29:55,440
used to use the gift certificates and then go and

608
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,440
not only pay for dinner with the gift certificates, but

609
00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,359
want to go food.

610
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did that. And then there was a time

611
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,359
where he came running into me. There was a meeting.

612
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,640
He goes, Hey, if they come and ask you if

613
00:30:08,839 --> 00:30:11,519
I talked to you about this, tell them yes. And

614
00:30:11,559 --> 00:30:14,519
then he postdated a memo saying I had a conversation

615
00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:16,599
with Bim. But I'm like that this guy was shady

616
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,880
as shit, shady as shit.

617
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,279
Speaker 3: Right, and he had replaced the guy that was like

618
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,039
dumber in the box of rocks. I think, oh yeah,

619
00:30:25,079 --> 00:30:28,039
because when I left, the station was just shy of

620
00:30:28,079 --> 00:30:30,279
a ten share and we had been about a fifteen,

621
00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:34,359
so everybody was panic, right, and I left and I'm

622
00:30:34,359 --> 00:30:36,079
going down to Austin. I never hear from it. I

623
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,240
never hear from this guy. And I raced after him

624
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,839
a couple of times, say hey, you know, how are

625
00:30:39,839 --> 00:30:41,720
you doing? You know, because it was a big research

626
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:43,599
thing at the time. I think they blew that all

627
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,000
up and it.

628
00:30:45,079 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: Was this the one who used to put a guitar on

629
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,799
the front porch. Yeah, okay.

630
00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 3: And I remember within the first year of being gone,

631
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,240
the ratings came out for WCMF, and they had an

632
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:01,200
overall of four point nine, and I thought, holy shit,

633
00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:04,119
what is this guy doing there, because I used to

634
00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:06,160
think I could turn the radio station off and pull

635
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,680
a five yep, and they got a four point nine.

636
00:31:08,759 --> 00:31:12,519
Speaker 1: He used to He decided that he was going to

637
00:31:12,599 --> 00:31:15,920
do a shift, so he inserted himself from four to

638
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,640
six pm, four pm to six pm, and then he

639
00:31:19,759 --> 00:31:22,599
used to meet women through the radio and he would

640
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,720
have them come up and wait in the lobby and

641
00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:28,640
he'd have somebody go out and check them out, and

642
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,200
if they told them they were attractive, he would he

643
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,880
would wrap up his shift and go out. If somebody goes,

644
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:42,160
oh man, he would go. He would call front, I'm

645
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,440
tied up, I got a meeting. I gotta get to whatever.

646
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,759
And then blow these girls off and just random.

647
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 3: Girls over the request line.

648
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: You got it, Call her number nine, Call her number nine.

649
00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:54,200
It was that kind of thing. It was the weirdest thing.

650
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,559
And he was one of these guys who there are

651
00:31:57,559 --> 00:32:01,279
some fat guys that have like really big calves, right,

652
00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:03,720
They've like they because they're carrying so much weight, and

653
00:32:03,759 --> 00:32:06,440
they got big forearms and they think they're in shape,

654
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,640
but they're really not, They're just fat guys. So he

655
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,279
used to see these guys in boxing all the time.

656
00:32:10,319 --> 00:32:13,400
They would come in and after one three minute round,

657
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,200
they're fucking gas. They can't do anything. But they were

658
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,400
big and so and they thought they were big, but

659
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,039
they were they were fore arms and legs. That was

660
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,160
this guy. And he came in once with shorts on,

661
00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:26,640
showing off his calves. He's got his kick and a

662
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:31,880
pink shirt. And somebody on the morning show made a

663
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,519
comment and he wanted that guy fired and he went

664
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,279
crazy trying to get that person fired out see who

665
00:32:38,279 --> 00:32:41,079
could that have been? And then and Weeze came and goes,

666
00:32:41,119 --> 00:32:43,279
Brah the name of the show had brought a weed

667
00:32:43,319 --> 00:32:45,880
bat and fucking like it was. I mean, it was

668
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,160
an actual and the ego was so big, and that

669
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,880
was the problem. It wasn't about the radio station. It

670
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,680
was about him, right, And you're always what I got.

671
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,480
When I'd call him and say, hey, yeah, you know,

672
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,519
how's it going. You don't have to they don't have

673
00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:01,599
time for that. I say, well, we don't have time

674
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,079
for this. Oh god, that was some of the greatest.

675
00:33:04,119 --> 00:33:05,960
And then he went off to be a GM somewhere

676
00:33:06,519 --> 00:33:08,720
and when he left, he's like he was telling me.

677
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,319
I was like, you're not ready to do mornings. Within

678
00:33:11,359 --> 00:33:12,799
a month he's calling me going, hey, you want to

679
00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:15,039
do a morning showing Vermont. I go, fuck, no, I

680
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:18,279
don't want to come to Vermont. No, the U asshole.

681
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,279
It's like the best. But during radio you started something

682
00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:23,799
called Rochester Movie Makers.

683
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,279
Speaker 3: That was after I left came back from Austin, and

684
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,759
I knew I was going to work for CBS Radio,

685
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,119
and I knew they had no interest in markets like Rochester,

686
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,480
New York, and they were going to get rid of it.

687
00:33:35,599 --> 00:33:35,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

688
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 3: The question was where they're going to hold it for

689
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,759
one year or five years? And I think they wound

690
00:33:39,839 --> 00:33:42,200
up holding it for about two a little than two.

691
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,000
And I knew that when I came back, and I

692
00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:46,119
didn't want to. I didn't want to come back to

693
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,279
Rochester because I'd been very successful working with a guy

694
00:33:50,319 --> 00:33:54,359
out in Los Angeles was a consultant, and it was

695
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,039
two hours, three hours a day, the cat in my lap,

696
00:33:58,119 --> 00:34:01,880
and I was making probably seventy five percent of what

697
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:06,160
I've been making on the radio anyway, And back then,

698
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,639
the amount of money the consultants used to make, yeh business.

699
00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 1: I had one.

700
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:17,639
Speaker 3: I had two radio shows in Tucson, Arizona. All I

701
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:20,360
had to do was listen to those two radio shows

702
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,719
for maybe four or five hours, and then composed a

703
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,119
one hour phone call once a month with each one

704
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:32,079
of them, so maybe twelve hours a month. They paid

705
00:34:32,079 --> 00:34:35,360
a four thousand dollars a month, of which I got

706
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,800
like sixty five percent because I was the one doing

707
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,360
the works pretty good, and that with that dried up.

708
00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:45,679
And so when that dried up, then I came back

709
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,639
to Rochester to work for CBS Radio, and sure enough,

710
00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:50,559
they didn't hold it for very long. But I had

711
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,280
had a good talent agent that advised me on what

712
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,360
to do, and they were very generous in me. Even

713
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,440
beyond that. They wound up paying me to not work

714
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,320
for a year and and a half at the same

715
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,559
salary as if I was working, which was a good seal.

716
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,320
That was CBS Radio at the time, and that they

717
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,320
paid people like in New York City we were in Rochester,

718
00:35:10,039 --> 00:35:11,880
so it was it was a great thing for me.

719
00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:15,159
So I had a year and a half after CBS

720
00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:17,960
sold the radio station and I wasn't going to work

721
00:35:18,039 --> 00:35:23,320
for intercom. It became pretty clear pretty quickly. I didn't

722
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:28,760
want to, and they so then I had nothing to do.

723
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,199
And I thought I had taken some radio, some film

724
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,320
courses in Austin when I was down there, because they

725
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,920
had a film school down there that was pretty easy

726
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,079
to get involved in and didn't cost a lot of money.

727
00:35:42,159 --> 00:35:43,920
And I didn't want to go to rit and spend

728
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,719
twenty thousand dollars a year. And I'm like, what It

729
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,360
was a very simple little process that they had in Austin.

730
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,880
This guy was a film you know, not much of

731
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,719
a filmmaker, but he had been a teacher at UT

732
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,079
and he started his own film school. And what you

733
00:35:57,119 --> 00:36:00,199
did was you came into class the first day and

734
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,199
he said, okay, everybody should have a screenplay because I

735
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,480
told you to write a screenplay before you came. I

736
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,280
think it was ten page screenplay. This would be ten

737
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,400
minute movies we were making. And we read. Everybody had

738
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,159
to read the screenplay live, like the first day or two,

739
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,039
and then the class voted on the top three. And

740
00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:19,039
there were thirty people in the class and they split

741
00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:22,400
into three groups of ten, and you had to produce

742
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:28,119
the films. And we did. And I thought, why couldn't

743
00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:31,239
I just do that here, yeah, you know, and not

744
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,880
charge people money, just get people involved and have competitions

745
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,559
for screenplays. And then I put a press release out

746
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,519
and City Newspaper did a whole thing on this, just

747
00:36:44,559 --> 00:36:48,119
this press release on new film groups starting in Rochester,

748
00:36:48,159 --> 00:36:53,119
New York. And I rented a room in the Briton Library.

749
00:36:53,159 --> 00:36:56,320
I think it was free. We're ten dollars or something.

750
00:36:57,119 --> 00:37:01,159
And the first day, like thirty people showed up and

751
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,000
most of them were filmmakers who a lot of them

752
00:37:04,039 --> 00:37:06,519
were very suspect of me because I wasn't a filmmaker

753
00:37:06,559 --> 00:37:09,599
and I'm running the group, so there was a little

754
00:37:09,639 --> 00:37:12,400
give and take there. But it was fun and I

755
00:37:13,159 --> 00:37:16,559
loved it. But I was going to south By Southwest

756
00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:20,559
and really eating every book I could get and learning

757
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,159
pretty quickly that you know, in Rochester, New York, you're

758
00:37:23,159 --> 00:37:26,920
not going to make money doing film, at least if

759
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,000
you're sixty or fifty five. I think it was fifty five,

760
00:37:30,039 --> 00:37:33,159
fifty eight years all the time, you know, you've got

761
00:37:33,199 --> 00:37:35,960
to be eighteen years old, and you got to really

762
00:37:36,039 --> 00:37:38,519
really want it because, like you and I were talking earlier,

763
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,360
typical filmmaking process is okay, it's if you're lucky, you're

764
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,400
going to get your screenplay written in a year Jesus

765
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,960
by the fifth overright or fifth ree right. Then it's

766
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,480
going to take you a year to find your producers

767
00:37:53,519 --> 00:37:58,519
and your directors and your cast and camera people, and

768
00:38:00,159 --> 00:38:03,599
then another year to shoot the thing and get it

769
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,639
edited and get it put together. And then a few

770
00:38:06,679 --> 00:38:09,039
months after that they get the sound right, they get

771
00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:12,920
the color correction, and there's so much stuff that you

772
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,360
don't know when you're not in it. And then so

773
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,800
now you got your film, and you basically paid paid

774
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,840
five years of your life to get your film done,

775
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,280
and you're really excited about your film. Well, congratulations, a

776
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,280
third of your work is done, because now you've got

777
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,039
to get out and sell it and sell it, and

778
00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:32,719
that's two thirds of the gig.

779
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: It's tough. I know guys who have done documentaries and things,

780
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,280
and it's it's tough, right, you know, And a lot

781
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:39,639
of it.

782
00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 3: Is easy to get ripped off.

783
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: Well. I think a lot of these guys try to

784
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,920
fund it themselves so that way they're not you know

785
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,880
what I mean. And it's usually guys with some deeper

786
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:48,599
pockets who.

787
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 3: Have still sold to somebody for distribution. There's a lot

788
00:38:54,039 --> 00:38:56,360
of ways you can get guys that will be like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

789
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,800
you'll make it. We'll take care of you. I think

790
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:01,480
it's getting better.

791
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,079
Speaker 1: It is getting better, and I think the independent stuff

792
00:39:05,199 --> 00:39:07,639
is kind of nice. I mean, we're in a very

793
00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:11,199
strange time I think in American history. I do would

794
00:39:11,199 --> 00:39:14,519
sometimes feel like there could be a civil war at

795
00:39:14,559 --> 00:39:15,280
some point.

796
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,039
Speaker 3: We just passed through a really great time to be

797
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:25,119
a small independent filmmaker because Netflix, all those companies were

798
00:39:25,159 --> 00:39:28,039
just spending so much. They were unsustainable rights of money

799
00:39:28,119 --> 00:39:31,320
that now they're having to answer for. But for a

800
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,840
long time, but I was prior to all that, so

801
00:39:34,599 --> 00:39:39,079
Netflix was just happening, and and you know, streaming was

802
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,599
you know for a long time though when I started,

803
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,119
if you streamed a film that it was on your

804
00:39:44,119 --> 00:39:46,679
computer monitor and it was probably three inches by two inches,

805
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,519
and somehow, you know, a couple of years later, all

806
00:39:51,519 --> 00:39:55,000
of a sudden, it's high definitions.

807
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,079
Speaker 1: It's everything. That technology is amazing, what's happening. But I

808
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,519
do think the like, you know, we're in such a

809
00:40:01,559 --> 00:40:06,480
strange time that independent films and stuff, people being able

810
00:40:06,519 --> 00:40:10,119
to make what they want is fantastic. Without having to

811
00:40:10,159 --> 00:40:13,719
go to a company like even here you get to

812
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,559
say what you want to say in a language that

813
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,360
wouldn't be FCC compatible, right, But you can do it.

814
00:40:20,559 --> 00:40:22,199
And as long as you've got.

815
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:26,199
Speaker 3: There's a hobby. There used to be a lot higher

816
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:27,880
cost of entrance into my.

817
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,519
Speaker 1: Way wave more like I always said, what do I say, Kevin?

818
00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:34,639
The barrier to entry is gone? Jesus, I say, the

819
00:40:34,639 --> 00:40:35,679
barrier to entry is gone?

820
00:40:35,679 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 3: Absolutely when when I was doing it, the camera that

821
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,559
I bought cost ten thousand dollars, Holy shit, and I

822
00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:44,920
still have it. Uh, it's not worth it's not worth

823
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:45,960
as much as his phone is.

824
00:40:46,039 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: Right now.

825
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,679
Speaker 3: It'll do a better picture because it's got better glass,

826
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,840
but it doesn't do as high a resolution as this

827
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:53,320
is this.

828
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: As the phone the phone, it's not it's strange. But

829
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,960
all those passions you have, I mean you dive head

830
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,320
first in man, you're advocating for people when you go

831
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,840
you're all in Stanley.

832
00:41:06,119 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I tend to be well. I've always

833
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,719
been single, so I can do whatever I want to

834
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,159
do whenever I want to do it. Yeah, and I

835
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:15,599
you know, I'm a gadget hound.

836
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:17,679
Speaker 1: And didn't you have an RV for a while.

837
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:18,519
Speaker 3: I still do.

838
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, are you traveling around doing?

839
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,679
Speaker 3: I have traveled around in that fucking Oh my god,

840
00:41:26,679 --> 00:41:26,960
I gut.

841
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,679
Speaker 1: RV's a the worst. Don't ever buy him, steal a

842
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,039
mobile home, a rock and roll.

843
00:41:31,079 --> 00:41:34,119
Speaker 3: And whatever you do, don't ever buy one new. Yeah,

844
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:36,719
I could have bought one. None of my neighbors. When

845
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:41,119
I first moved to Reiga, one of my neighbors was

846
00:41:41,159 --> 00:41:44,199
selling his RV okay, and it was a nineteen eighty

847
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,000
five r V all right, And I thought, but it

848
00:41:47,079 --> 00:41:49,400
was nice looking and I went in. It was beautiful,

849
00:41:49,679 --> 00:41:52,639
and I have another neighbor said he this guy totally

850
00:41:52,679 --> 00:41:55,719
took care of that RV and he wanted He initially

851
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,719
was asking eighteen thousand dollars for it, and I had

852
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,840
just moved and I just wasn't ready to get the

853
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,719
idea at that time. He wound up selling the thing

854
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,159
for like twelve wow, as opposed to.

855
00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: The eighty yeah, oh yeah, yeah, eighty yeah.

856
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,519
Speaker 3: I spent for the brand new one, the brand new

857
00:42:12,519 --> 00:42:15,280
one that I took out on a trip to Utah. Yeah,

858
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:18,760
And it has a slide out on it, and it's

859
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,360
a big slide out on the slideout is the refrigerator,

860
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:29,079
all your clothing storage, Uh, the diamond table.

861
00:42:29,679 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: I have no idea. That's when I don't know anything.

862
00:42:31,199 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 3: About another birthday present coming.

863
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:42,559
Speaker 5: I think, okay, this is from your brother, oh from

864
00:42:42,559 --> 00:42:44,599
my brother birthday.

865
00:42:48,519 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 1: My brother said it happy birthday. My dad died. So wow,

866
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,599
look at all that man, Thank you. That was uh,

867
00:42:57,039 --> 00:42:59,679
that's funny. Yeah, because when we were so one night

868
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,599
we had come back when my dad was in hospice,

869
00:43:02,679 --> 00:43:04,559
and we're sitting out in these chairs and all of

870
00:43:04,559 --> 00:43:07,280
a sudden, the carpools in the driveway and I go,

871
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,480
what's this. My brother had ordered dominos so late at night,

872
00:43:10,519 --> 00:43:13,880
but he lives like off this dirt road in Kenny Bunk, Maine.

873
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,159
So I was shocked to see dominoes coming.

874
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 3: Right, that's amazing what they delivered to Now, yeah they do.

875
00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:22,199
But anyway, I forgot we were talking about.

876
00:43:22,039 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 1: But we were talking about you and the r V

877
00:43:24,559 --> 00:43:24,880
and then.

878
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,599
Speaker 3: It's a slideout. Yeah, and it's got like everything. It's

879
00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:33,280
a there's a dining room table, there's storage, there's a refrigerator.

880
00:43:34,159 --> 00:43:37,920
And the problem was that every time I took a

881
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,880
right turn to slide out, would slide out.

882
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:41,519
Speaker 1: Oh my God.

883
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 3: I mean going ten miles an hour would slide out.

884
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,440
Had I taken an exit you know, one of those

885
00:43:47,519 --> 00:43:51,039
loopy exits doing fifty sixty five miles. Yeah, that whole

886
00:43:51,039 --> 00:43:53,400
thing would have been out on the ground.

887
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:54,199
Speaker 1: It was.

888
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,199
Speaker 3: There was nothing holding it in. And I'm in like,

889
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,519
who come carry Arizona or something, some strange town.

890
00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 1: What did you do?

891
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 3: I pulled over and I had a extended warranty on

892
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:11,639
the thing, which paid for itself. I don't usually do

893
00:44:11,679 --> 00:44:14,239
extended warranties, but that I did, and it was smart

894
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:18,559
because I called and they said, well, we can come

895
00:44:19,039 --> 00:44:23,039
help you out tomorrow, and said, ex Jesus tomorrow. And

896
00:44:23,039 --> 00:44:25,480
then I I googled it and it turned out I'm

897
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,159
in this little town that it's like one of those

898
00:44:28,159 --> 00:44:31,559
towns where there's like a traffic light, that's it. There

899
00:44:31,559 --> 00:44:35,679
were two RV places in the town and they were

900
00:44:35,679 --> 00:44:38,599
both within a mile of where I was. So I

901
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,599
told the guy looked. They said, we can't come out

902
00:44:40,679 --> 00:44:42,639
right now, we've got you know. I said, well, I'll

903
00:44:42,679 --> 00:44:45,360
come to you, and so I drove to them and

904
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,960
they literally just drilled holes in the thing and put

905
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,000
bolts in and just bolted it down. I couldn't open

906
00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:53,840
it up anymore, but I didn't care. I felt so

907
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,119
good to be able to drive the thing and not

908
00:44:55,199 --> 00:45:00,159
worry about the whole thing falling apart. So it's it's, uh,

909
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,639
there's a lot of things that you know, you've got

910
00:45:03,679 --> 00:45:06,719
a house, you're basically driving a house. Yeah, everything that

911
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:12,559
the house is there, microwaves, ovens, everything's there. And houses

912
00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:15,159
are really not. They don't do well if they move

913
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,400
a lot. There's always things that come undone. Yes, so

914
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,000
you know, there was a lot of times it was

915
00:45:22,039 --> 00:45:24,599
on RVY trip. I had a big plan going to Texas,

916
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,679
gonna go visit some friends and be gone for a

917
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:32,400
couple of weeks. Take the dogs. There's another story. And

918
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,119
I get in the RV to go and the refrigerator's

919
00:45:36,159 --> 00:45:38,960
broken and it's going to be three months before the

920
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,000
refrigerators fixed. And that's the end of summer. So now

921
00:45:42,039 --> 00:45:44,960
you can't you can't use an RB in wintertime. It's

922
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,559
literally only two months you can use the RV. Jesus

923
00:45:47,559 --> 00:45:50,280
for me, Yeah, it's got to be fifty degrees so

924
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,880
at night if I'm gonna use the RV because they've

925
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,039
got air conditioners in it.

926
00:45:54,519 --> 00:45:55,639
Speaker 1: But no heater.

927
00:45:56,079 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 3: Oh it's got a heater.

928
00:45:57,119 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can go by.

929
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 3: But the air.

930
00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: Conditioners, you know, you can hear this air condo.

931
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 3: Will multiply that by about fifty Yeah, I mean the

932
00:46:06,559 --> 00:46:10,599
k and I literally the first trip I ever took

933
00:46:11,119 --> 00:46:15,000
in my RV was too long to actually Manhattan. Because

934
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,480
a friend of mine was in the hospital. I took

935
00:46:16,519 --> 00:46:19,840
the RVY to Manhattan, stayed right across from the How the.

936
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: Fuck did you drive that through Manhattan? Oh? Oh yeah, Jesus.

937
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 3: Well, first I wasn't supposed to drive through man Yeah,

938
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,199
I was going. I stayed in New Jersey, which is

939
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,840
right across the river Manhattan, and it was beautiful place.

940
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,840
I mean, it was a terrible It was a parking lot,

941
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,039
but it was cool because the Statue of Liberty was

942
00:46:36,079 --> 00:46:37,960
You could see the Statue of Liberty from my RVY

943
00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:42,400
bar and uh. So I got done visiting my friend

944
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,440
in the hospital, and I had two or three dogs

945
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,480
of me at the time, and I thought to myself,

946
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,760
you know, my dogs have never seen the beach. I

947
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,480
really should take my dogs to the beach. So I

948
00:46:55,519 --> 00:46:59,039
made a reservation on the end of Long Island as

949
00:46:59,119 --> 00:47:00,559
far as you can go at the end of Long

950
00:47:00,559 --> 00:47:02,760
Island too. It's a state park and you had to

951
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,800
reserve two nights because there was a two nights. In

952
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,719
a moment, I thought, this is cool, this is going

953
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,000
to be great. I'll go through Garden City where I

954
00:47:09,039 --> 00:47:11,719
was raised, and I have a hero sandwich.

955
00:47:12,039 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, they call them heroes. They call them heroes, and

956
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:15,760
Poughkeepsie they do.

957
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 3: And uh, I was gonna do all that. And so

958
00:47:20,199 --> 00:47:23,559
I'm I'm driving there and somehow I get in the

959
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,159
Manhattan Tunnel.

960
00:47:26,599 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: Oh God, by mistaken Lincoln. Yes, and they got you.

961
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 3: I'm driving this, I am shitting in my PA and

962
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:41,199
I passed by something that knocks the rear view mirror

963
00:47:41,519 --> 00:47:46,599
out on the right, which that mirror is mission critical

964
00:47:46,639 --> 00:47:50,920
because you cannot move because you can't see who's there.

965
00:47:51,079 --> 00:47:55,639
And people don't give a flying the RV asshole to

966
00:47:55,679 --> 00:47:59,039
begin with, you're in their way. Boom boom. And I

967
00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:01,599
literally stopped right at the end of the tunnel and

968
00:48:01,679 --> 00:48:04,000
I just got out and fortunately the thing had just

969
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,559
fallen out. I could literally shove it right back in,

970
00:48:06,679 --> 00:48:09,639
shoved it back in, got in there, started driving all

971
00:48:09,679 --> 00:48:11,840
the way out here. It's all the way through Long.

972
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: Ho So that's like a three hour.

973
00:48:14,119 --> 00:48:17,159
Speaker 3: It probably was six six It should have taken maybe

974
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,239
two and change if i'd gone Well, traffic is usually

975
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,760
Long Island is just crazy traffic, and RVs are not

976
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,599
really welcome on Long Island. I'm on the Long Island

977
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:36,039
Long is Expressway, and by the time you see the

978
00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:38,239
sign that says oh cars only.

979
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: You're on the you're on the road. So I'm driving

980
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,199
along and the tunnels I got.

981
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:48,159
Speaker 3: I got twelve feet eight inches clean to go through

982
00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:52,760
tunnels weren't twelve feet eight inches lost two air conditioners. Shit,

983
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,360
didn't even know it. I knew something was I knew

984
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,280
I could, But the tunnel I could just bear if

985
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:04,480
you got in the middle, if you got right in

986
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,039
the middle of arc. I thought it was cool, but

987
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,320
it turned out I wasn't cool. So I drive it here.

988
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:10,840
It's going to be a long story, but I think

989
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,159
it's a little bit funny. I'm driving into my old

990
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:18,519
town and I pull over because the shower curtain is

991
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,760
the shower door is screwed up, and I want to

992
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,840
fix it. It's bothering me because every time I turn around,

993
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,119
I pull over on Big Big Street Stewart Avenue, on

994
00:49:28,159 --> 00:49:31,000
Long Island pull over and I just go back and

995
00:49:31,079 --> 00:49:34,119
get it, shove it, fix it, get back in there,

996
00:49:34,159 --> 00:49:41,480
pull away, and the tree that was right next to me,

997
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:48,639
I had grabbed the sun panel and had pulled the

998
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:53,639
entire metal thing out and had covered the door. So

999
00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:57,400
I can't get out. I cannot get out of the

1000
00:49:57,559 --> 00:49:59,760
r V. Now I've got two dogs sitting there look

1001
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,239
at it, like what you're doing, and I can't get out.

1002
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,960
I got to climb out of the window, which is

1003
00:50:06,039 --> 00:50:10,760
not easy thing to do. Police come. They determined that

1004
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:16,199
I have not done any damage, so I'm free to go,

1005
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,800
but I'm trapped in the r V. And I find

1006
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,920
out I got this a little RV place in Hempstead,

1007
00:50:26,039 --> 00:50:28,079
and I called him up and the guy goes. The

1008
00:50:28,119 --> 00:50:33,440
guy name was Marv, and he's this old, typical Long

1009
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,840
Island guy. Just hey, you know, we can't really we're

1010
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,599
not going to be able to get to you right away,

1011
00:50:38,679 --> 00:50:40,360
you know, because we got our regular customers. But if

1012
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,119
you want to come, well, I can't even do the

1013
00:50:42,159 --> 00:50:46,719
accident anymore. But it was that beautiful Long Xul. I

1014
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,679
just loved it. I drove over there and there again

1015
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,119
the guys. I see the guy. He's got the places,

1016
00:50:53,159 --> 00:50:56,519
you know, one of those old everything. Nothing's been dusted

1017
00:50:56,519 --> 00:51:00,000
since the nineteen sixties. This guy's been sitting. This guy's

1018
00:51:00,119 --> 00:51:02,800
been sitting at this desk in the middle of the place.

1019
00:51:03,159 --> 00:51:07,079
Just old grumpy man, you can tell, but basically a

1020
00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:10,639
good heart. But he was again, he's like, you know,

1021
00:51:10,679 --> 00:51:12,760
you're gonna have to wait. It's gonna take some time.

1022
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,719
And I'm like, honey, I got an RV, it's got TV,

1023
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,760
I got the internet. I don't care. They take your time.

1024
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,599
Within three hours they had me in, they pulled the

1025
00:51:22,639 --> 00:51:25,079
thing off, and so I continued to drive all the

1026
00:51:25,079 --> 00:51:27,719
way out to the state park. And again it takes

1027
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,000
me like four hours. You know, every twenty minutes you're stopped.

1028
00:51:32,039 --> 00:51:35,199
Get to the state park and what is the first

1029
00:51:35,199 --> 00:51:38,239
thing I see but a sign that says no dogs,

1030
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:43,840
no pets allowed. I'm like fuck. So I went and

1031
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,559
checked in anyway, and they didn't, you know, the dogs

1032
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:50,480
were quiet, and I drove and parked and the lady

1033
00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:52,119
right across from me has a dog.

1034
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, I thought it says no pets. A lout.

1035
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,159
Speaker 3: She says, well, I've got a it's a service dog.

1036
00:51:56,559 --> 00:51:58,840
I said, oh, she says, those aren't service dogs and

1037
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,559
they're going to kick you out if they finding out.

1038
00:52:00,679 --> 00:52:04,119
So we went to bed. I got up like five

1039
00:52:04,119 --> 00:52:06,800
o'clock in the morning, took the dogs to the beach.

1040
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,320
They wanted to have absolutely nothing to do with the

1041
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,119
water or anything to do with it. What's the river? God,

1042
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,480
the damn thing? And drove back home. Got a got

1043
00:52:14,519 --> 00:52:16,639
a hero sandwich though, del fight delicatessa.

1044
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: There you go, perfect, all right, we'll take another little

1045
00:52:20,119 --> 00:52:24,880
short break. Uh, my brother sent pizza. Then the other gifts.

1046
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,800
You're well, this one's originally from your dead father too.

1047
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:28,400
Oh it is.

1048
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 4: There was supposed to be a message with the pizza delivered. Oh,

1049
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:32,440
it was supposed to be a message with that, but

1050
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:33,760
I think it would have come into Spanish from the

1051
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:34,719
get that delivered the first one.

1052
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,800
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1053
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:41,800
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your rights, their commitment. Sure they played this on They

1096
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,280
might have played on Warm. I thought they even played

1097
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:31,000
on CMM. No not John hy not his worst yo

1098
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:39,440
looking five ton or ever. No, this is this is

1099
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:40,000
John Hyde.

1100
00:55:40,199 --> 00:55:43,639
Speaker 4: Oh johns No, it's.

1101
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:45,679
Speaker 1: What you're doing.

1102
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 4: We're thet to get the real versions that we're playing.

1103
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well I was gonna play the real version.

1104
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,639
This is the worsion. Everybody knows over here that, Uh

1105
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,280
well I should have. I should have let you pull

1106
00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:58,480
it up.

1107
00:55:58,599 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 3: Let me got it.

1108
00:55:59,519 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: I gotta heart. Just get through the ad and here

1109
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:23,960
we go. Good and forgive him a clue. You remember, Jeff, Yeah,

1110
00:56:24,199 --> 00:56:26,440
angel Eyes. It was written by John Hyatt, so I

1111
00:56:26,519 --> 00:56:29,800
played his verse first and then Jeff Heally took it

1112
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,000
and it became a hit with.

1113
00:56:31,079 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 3: Heally, I know, but it was.

1114
00:56:33,079 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: It was kind of a hit, all yeah, all right.

1115
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:42,800
It might have been a mid charter on the A

1116
00:56:43,079 --> 00:56:45,639
R charts. But I always liked it because John high Road,

1117
00:56:45,679 --> 00:56:47,400
and I was like, look at that. It's impressive. But

1118
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,280
you're right, he didn't have many hits at all. I think,

1119
00:56:50,519 --> 00:56:55,159
uh not many Anny Bonnie Ray Bonnie. No, he didn't

1120
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:59,400
Bonnie Ray. Bonnie Ray, Yeah, and Bonnie he wrote a

1121
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,880
bunch of Bonnie great songs. And come on, she's had

1122
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:08,519
some stuff. She's got a new one one that was yes.

1123
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,119
Speaker 3: When she was really really she got all that big

1124
00:57:11,199 --> 00:57:13,519
award out of nowhere, all of a sudden, Bonnie Ray

1125
00:57:13,559 --> 00:57:15,760
gets an award for I can't remember what got.

1126
00:57:15,679 --> 00:57:17,519
Speaker 1: But they were all like did you ever see them

1127
00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:20,800
down in Texas or anything? Like Bonnie Raid? And because

1128
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,280
they were always I thought playing, uh places like south By,

1129
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,159
Southwest or they would be it. You know, Austin was

1130
00:57:27,199 --> 00:57:30,239
a great it is a great music town. Steven Rayvaugh

1131
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:32,119
statue right there.

1132
00:57:33,519 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 3: No, we you could. There was a lot of music

1133
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,280
on Sixth Street. The bars had a lot of music,

1134
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,880
but it was not Bonnie Raid it you know. Yeah,

1135
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,639
more Honkey Tom Rates, third cousin.

1136
00:57:49,159 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: Bill Raid, Bill Ray. That's funny, Ken, What are all

1137
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:54,719
the stuff that came in? All right?

1138
00:57:54,719 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 4: Well this this came from Maine, from from my brother.

1139
00:58:00,159 --> 00:58:03,079
I think you came from your dad. That's oh, it's

1140
00:58:03,119 --> 00:58:07,920
a cake. Look at dad at chocolate cake.

1141
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,719
Speaker 3: The ultimate chocolate kid. Don't make they don't make it better.

1142
00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: Than that, No, they don't know this came from your

1143
00:58:13,039 --> 00:58:17,199
dad as well. Hello, Oh really an eight. So I

1144
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,400
used to always say that I had my bat blue period.

1145
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,599
Van Go had his blue period. I have my Labat

1146
00:58:22,639 --> 00:58:28,159
blue period. And then this one's from me with the

1147
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,599
alcoholic period that I brought you to, yeah, instead of

1148
00:58:31,639 --> 00:58:35,079
the Danny brought me non alcoholic yesterday, Yeah, which was

1149
00:58:35,199 --> 00:58:37,800
very good and a bunch of crunch that didn't make

1150
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:46,360
the Keith Richards live. Oh is that new? Yeah? I

1151
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,480
love the Stones and Keith Richard is my favorite.

1152
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 3: And you're doing vinyl.

1153
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:51,719
Speaker 1: I have vinyl a home.

1154
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1155
00:58:52,159 --> 00:58:54,159
Speaker 1: I do listen to vinyl and I get the h

1156
00:58:55,079 --> 00:58:57,239
That's why I try to give my sons to listen

1157
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,480
to vinyl. My one son is sown a rap. I

1158
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:00,480
don't even understand.

1159
00:59:01,559 --> 00:59:06,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's one fun, there's more and there's not something

1160
00:59:06,599 --> 00:59:12,800
else in there too. Excuse man, just an easy one right.

1161
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,880
Finally in Canada, Oh Stone socks.

1162
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,719
Speaker 1: Look at that? To wear those, I'm gonna wear those tomorrow.

1163
00:59:20,079 --> 00:59:21,199
Speaker 3: You're a big Stones.

1164
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. I went out to see I love the Stones.

1165
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,559
I went in eighty nine when I graduated high school,

1166
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,440
went down to see him at Shay and then a

1167
00:59:28,519 --> 00:59:31,639
bunch of times with CMF and then last year my

1168
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,559
brother flew in from Maine and we drove to Cleveland.

1169
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,159
Oh Bill passed out halfway to the show.

1170
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 3: And that was just last year.

1171
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,599
Speaker 1: That it was just last summer. And are they they

1172
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:47,119
sounded great? Nick sounded great, Autoune. I don't know. It's

1173
00:59:47,159 --> 00:59:50,519
got to be something because David Lee Roth ain't there,

1174
00:59:50,599 --> 00:59:54,119
but Mixed sounded great. And now Netflix is doing a

1175
00:59:54,199 --> 00:59:56,559
whole thing on the life of Mick Jagger. I'm pretty

1176
00:59:56,599 --> 01:00:00,119
sure it's like a whole series on like a X

1177
01:00:00,199 --> 01:00:02,679
part series on becoming Mick Jagger or whatever.

1178
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:03,119
Speaker 3: That was.

1179
01:00:04,639 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: An episode I suppose. I always wanted to sit down first, kid,

1180
01:00:08,679 --> 01:00:10,480
you know what one of my favorites was, because I

1181
01:00:10,719 --> 01:00:12,719
was just thinking this. I always wanted to interview Keith Richards.

1182
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,960
I love interviewing people. I love getting into the kind

1183
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,239
of their head and finding out what makes him ticket.

1184
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,599
I had some really really cool interviews over the years,

1185
01:00:20,119 --> 01:00:23,440
but the one that I still will always always be

1186
01:00:23,599 --> 01:00:28,400
my favorite to have witnessed was Charlie Fitzsimmons, Ozzy Osbourne

1187
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:32,280
and Snoozer and you were there. I remember, Brother Weez,

1188
01:00:33,039 --> 01:00:36,079
you were there in the back and It was taped

1189
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:42,320
for Brother Weez show. Right, Brother Weiz was gonna drop

1190
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,559
the yes, drop the question, and then he's he's shoving

1191
01:00:45,639 --> 01:00:49,679
popcorn in his face. And then when Snoozer asked the question,

1192
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,880
and then Ozzie looks at him with popcorn falling out

1193
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,800
of his mouth and goes, how do you ask me

1194
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,480
a question when you just answered the question within the

1195
01:00:57,599 --> 01:01:00,840
question and all you hear in the background Stanley's laughing

1196
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:04,320
his ants off. That was the best and every once

1197
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,320
in a while. I don't know if we still plays

1198
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:07,719
it or not, but it was a great piece.

1199
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:11,639
Speaker 3: I remember Brother we was interviewing Pete Townsend, okay, and

1200
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,519
that was that was an interesting interview. Why well, because

1201
01:01:15,559 --> 01:01:17,920
Pete was just it was driving Brother we was crazy

1202
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,559
because Pete was not really wanting to be interviewed.

1203
01:01:20,639 --> 01:01:22,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's very cerebral.

1204
01:01:23,039 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and brother I don't think Brother We's appreciated anything

1205
01:01:26,039 --> 01:01:28,639
about I don't think Brothers knew much about him. No,

1206
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,960
so I didn't really realize how, you know, the guy's

1207
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:37,159
pretty mega guy. But he definitely came off as being like,

1208
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,000
oh God, I don't want to do this, and you're

1209
01:01:39,039 --> 01:01:41,679
an idiot while you're asking well that wasn't that bad,

1210
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,320
but it was clearly frustrated. You know, a lot of

1211
01:01:45,239 --> 01:01:46,679
one size and.

1212
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,719
Speaker 1: Just my favorite was always I love Joe Walsh. Joe

1213
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:52,639
Walsh is like my one of my favorite rock stars.

1214
01:01:52,679 --> 01:01:53,679
Speaker 3: He's a good interview I think.

1215
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think he was in once with Who's

1216
01:02:00,039 --> 01:02:03,719
On Fry and We're in on We's the Show? Years ago,

1217
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,039
but I I just remember seeing the picture. I don't

1218
01:02:06,039 --> 01:02:08,599
think I was around for that, but those were I remember.

1219
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:13,360
Joe Walsh just he was just funny and fun and irreverent,

1220
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:18,000
didn't care, didn't seem to take himself too seriously, and

1221
01:02:18,119 --> 01:02:21,119
that's what I like. But my favorite is the song

1222
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,280
Don't Come Around Here No More by Tom Petty, is

1223
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:28,960
written about Joe Walsh showed up at at Stevie Nick's

1224
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:30,840
house at five o'clock in the morning and they had

1225
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,719
been dating and she had some huge party the night before.

1226
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,519
And I forget who he wrote who Petty wrote that with,

1227
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:41,480
but that guy was upstairs and he hears her screaming

1228
01:02:41,559 --> 01:02:44,840
at Joe Walsh, get out, yeah, don't come around don't

1229
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,960
come around here, And now bar slams the door, and

1230
01:02:48,079 --> 01:02:49,559
so that became the title of the song.

1231
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 3: Funny, you got all the behind the scenes stories of

1232
01:02:59,559 --> 01:03:03,320
you know, the bands that they have, just a lot

1233
01:03:03,559 --> 01:03:09,440
of interviews now with you know, the Beatles producers and

1234
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:16,000
the Pink Floyd guys. Yes and undering, understanding with all

1235
01:03:16,119 --> 01:03:18,840
those bands, all those bands that had any significant number

1236
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:22,039
of hits. It's just it must have been so frustrating

1237
01:03:22,119 --> 01:03:25,159
to have, you know, a song that you'd written that

1238
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,719
you thought was a hit, but everybody else in the

1239
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:33,320
band thought the song yeah and yeah. I used to tell,

1240
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,840
you know, record companies would say, you're not playing the

1241
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:38,840
song off of the album that we want to play,

1242
01:03:39,679 --> 01:03:42,239
and I'd say, I don't care what the drummer's wife wants.

1243
01:03:42,679 --> 01:03:45,039
I'm going to play the best song on the album. Yeah.

1244
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: Well, I always thought the I always thought, how cool

1245
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:53,159
would it be to have written a song? And then,

1246
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:56,079
like I remember asking Lou Gram this, you write a song,

1247
01:03:56,559 --> 01:03:58,800
or you co write a song, and it becomes so

1248
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,199
big that you you show up on stage somewhere, huge

1249
01:04:02,239 --> 01:04:04,440
crowd in front of you and they're singing the words back.

1250
01:04:05,119 --> 01:04:08,199
That has got to be wild, just the whole while.

1251
01:04:08,199 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 3: It's just going on and having the audience react yes

1252
01:04:13,119 --> 01:04:13,880
to your stuff.

1253
01:04:14,159 --> 01:04:15,559
Speaker 1: It's that alone.

1254
01:04:15,639 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 3: You know, when I've I've done some stage work and

1255
01:04:18,079 --> 01:04:21,159
you know, stand up comedy. Occasionally, when you're ahead, that

1256
01:04:21,239 --> 01:04:25,159
feels great, awesome. There's no better high, probably no better

1257
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:26,480
low than bombing.

1258
01:04:27,079 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: That's the I've only experienced one of those, and it

1259
01:04:31,039 --> 01:04:34,159
wasn't the high the bombing, but the bombing like if

1260
01:04:34,199 --> 01:04:36,320
you can kind of like if you can sort of

1261
01:04:36,599 --> 01:04:40,039
step out of your body, there's something tough, beautiful about

1262
01:04:40,079 --> 01:04:40,840
the body side.

1263
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 3: I always so you always learn more from when you bomb. Yes, yes,

1264
01:04:45,159 --> 01:04:47,719
you're not going to write new stuff if you're killing

1265
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:48,599
with old.

1266
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 1: Stuff, but you're gonna do stand up again. Would you

1267
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:56,239
ever do it if they did afternoon stand up?

1268
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:56,559
Speaker 3: Maybe?

1269
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:57,119
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1270
01:04:57,199 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 3: Well this is late for me.

1271
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: This is what time are you going to.

1272
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 3: I'm usually about five thirty. I I nap until seven,

1273
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:05,639
and then I get up and have dinner and watch

1274
01:05:05,719 --> 01:05:07,480
TV till nine, and then I'm gone and I'm up

1275
01:05:07,519 --> 01:05:07,840
at two.

1276
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 1: I read for a couple of hours, and then I

1277
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:12,599
sleep from four to five, and then the dogs want

1278
01:05:12,639 --> 01:05:13,039
to eat.

1279
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 3: And then I'm up. And in the summertime and in

1280
01:05:17,039 --> 01:05:19,760
the springtime, the only time I can really farm from

1281
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:20,760
five to about eight.

1282
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: Because you are farming. I do farm, Yeah, and in

1283
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,559
the spring water in March because you brought in peaches

1284
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,840
and a huge candalope.

1285
01:05:29,159 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had that. Canalops are a huge hit this year,

1286
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:33,280
and I have. They've been real hit or missed for

1287
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,039
me year after year. I the first year I farmed,

1288
01:05:36,039 --> 01:05:38,960
I had these candalops. They were honey dew cantalyops with

1289
01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:42,599
an orange flesh that was were amazing. And I've been

1290
01:05:42,679 --> 01:05:47,119
trying to replicate those ever since and failing miserably because

1291
01:05:47,639 --> 01:05:50,039
it's tough. Now these candalops, it's really easy to see

1292
01:05:50,079 --> 01:05:52,239
when they're ripe. First of all, they're about the size

1293
01:05:52,239 --> 01:05:57,000
of basketball, so yeah, it is, but a lot of

1294
01:05:57,039 --> 01:05:58,840
times to not like I have a whole I have

1295
01:06:00,039 --> 01:06:04,719
two whole rows of candlopes, probably twenty plants, and they

1296
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:10,440
all produce like ten cantalopes, But you can't tell when

1297
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,679
they're ripe. A lot of them, Like when you're in

1298
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,320
the store, you can feel that they give a little

1299
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,920
ye right, then they're ripe, right, And that's what these do. Okay,

1300
01:06:19,079 --> 01:06:22,599
but these are rare for some reason. I don't know,

1301
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,119
maybe it's just me, but a lot of times I

1302
01:06:25,559 --> 01:06:27,079
go out there and I'm like, well, that's not ripe.

1303
01:06:27,119 --> 01:06:29,559
It's not it's not giving at all. And then by

1304
01:06:29,639 --> 01:06:32,119
the time it gives, it's rotten. Yeah, you know, so

1305
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,119
I had a hit this year, but candlops are tough.

1306
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,239
Speaker 1: Did you get Do you have a gun or anything

1307
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,159
like a twenty two to go shoot some woodchucks and

1308
01:06:41,239 --> 01:06:43,559
things that come out? No, I don't. I want one,

1309
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:45,679
you know, well, I want one for my RV. I

1310
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:46,960
want a rifle for the RV.

1311
01:06:47,079 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 3: I want something legal I can take from state to

1312
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:52,400
state in the RV because I travel with two Dobermint

1313
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:57,280
pincers and sometimes another darg or two, and so most

1314
01:06:57,599 --> 01:07:01,000
campgrounds do not want you. They don't even want the

1315
01:07:01,039 --> 01:07:03,760
doberman's little alone, you know, more than one dog or

1316
01:07:04,039 --> 01:07:06,760
maybe two dogs, and I almost always a traveling with

1317
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:08,760
more than two dogs. That was the other thing I

1318
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,280
was gonna say about the r V was the only

1319
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:13,079
reason I bought that damn thing was because I wanted

1320
01:07:13,079 --> 01:07:14,840
to be able to travel with the dogs. And I thought,

1321
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,000
you know, this would be careful, you know, it'd be

1322
01:07:17,039 --> 01:07:19,199
perfect for the dogs. And we got back from that

1323
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:24,159
trip from Utah, those port dogs. I was so stressed

1324
01:07:24,239 --> 01:07:26,800
that whole time. And I got back and I go,

1325
01:07:27,199 --> 01:07:29,280
that was no fun for you guys, that, oh was it?

1326
01:07:29,599 --> 01:07:35,480
They're in where we're parked in in this girl's house.

1327
01:07:35,639 --> 01:07:39,599
This is one of my goddaughters in Utah, and we're parked.

1328
01:07:39,719 --> 01:07:43,079
She was very nice and park the driveway and uh

1329
01:07:43,599 --> 01:07:45,679
and they had big parties because I was there and

1330
01:07:47,079 --> 01:07:49,920
I used to date their mother, okay, long before I

1331
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:56,400
got the plumbing things straightened out. And uh so we're

1332
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:58,519
at these parties and my dogs are there and they've

1333
01:07:58,519 --> 01:08:00,000
got there and everybody's.

1334
01:07:59,599 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 1: Feeding the dogs every oh no, how sick.

1335
01:08:04,079 --> 01:08:07,199
Speaker 3: So the next day I'm like, well, I'm gonna leave

1336
01:08:07,199 --> 01:08:09,000
the dogs in the arm. No, no, no, you got

1337
01:08:09,119 --> 01:08:10,960
to leave the dogs in the house. You gotta leave it.

1338
01:08:11,039 --> 01:08:12,639
They'll be better off in the house. Man, I don't.

1339
01:08:13,679 --> 01:08:14,239
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1340
01:08:15,519 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 3: Sure enough left in the house. Two and then she's

1341
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:26,000
got nice white carpet, big aisles of liquid, fucking poop, brutal.

1342
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 6: And you know what I got back. I thought, you know,

1343
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,640
this whole idea of traveling with the dogs, yeah, you

1344
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:37,359
can do it, but they don't. Really, they don't. This

1345
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,880
is not a treat for them. No, they're trapped in

1346
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:40,640
this RV.

1347
01:08:42,279 --> 01:08:46,399
Speaker 3: That's terrible, and the whole rhythm everything's off when you live.

1348
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:50,479
It's really interesting for me because I have never ever,

1349
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,279
ever lived with a pack of dogs before.

1350
01:08:52,279 --> 01:08:55,279
Speaker 1: Iways had one, maybe two. How many do you have now?

1351
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,520
Speaker 3: Five Jesus, three little one, three little minpens and two

1352
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:03,079
Doberman pincers. And and I'm retired now, so there's a

1353
01:09:03,119 --> 01:09:05,880
whole different relationship when you with your dog. Number one,

1354
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,119
when you're retired from when you're working. Sure, when I

1355
01:09:08,239 --> 01:09:10,560
was working, I was gone eight hours a day, nine

1356
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:14,119
ten hours a day, and my interaction with the dog

1357
01:09:14,319 --> 01:09:18,640
is thirty minutes, right, and then okay, fine, eat and

1358
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,920
go to bed. Boom, you know, wake up in the morning,

1359
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:23,039
take it for a walk, boom, and they're they're sleeping

1360
01:09:23,159 --> 01:09:27,880
all day long in the housing. When you're retired, it's different.

1361
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,079
Now you're with them all the time. And now it's

1362
01:09:31,159 --> 01:09:33,399
a pack of dogs. I'm not with one or two.

1363
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,359
Speaker 1: I'm with the pack. You're like the leader of the

1364
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:35,920
pack man.

1365
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 3: And I gotta tell you, I wouldn't have any other way.

1366
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,000
I just don't. I don't think I could live without

1367
01:09:42,119 --> 01:09:45,560
it because they are such great companions. They all do

1368
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:47,840
the same thing. They want the same thing at the

1369
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:51,560
same time every day. If I say, is anybody hungry,

1370
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,600
They're all, yes, let's go, let's eat. They're all excited.

1371
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,880
We're gonna eat. Boom, Okay, let's all go outside. Everybody

1372
01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:58,800
goes outside.

1373
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 1: It's if you want to go for a walk, Yeah,

1374
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:04,680
let's go for a walk. That's awesome.

1375
01:10:05,359 --> 01:10:07,279
Speaker 3: And it's just a completely different that. I find it

1376
01:10:07,399 --> 01:10:11,479
so interesting how my life has changed. And I'm glad

1377
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:16,399
for the experience because I not only have you know,

1378
01:10:17,119 --> 01:10:19,720
I'm with them so much more, but I'm with a

1379
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:21,680
pack of dogs. I'm a member of that pack.

1380
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:22,079
Speaker 1: Yes.

1381
01:10:22,279 --> 01:10:25,199
Speaker 3: And if I sit down in my house and I

1382
01:10:25,279 --> 01:10:28,840
have company over, my dogs all sit around me or

1383
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,159
on top of me. They are all with me.

1384
01:10:31,279 --> 01:10:34,560
Speaker 1: Everybody else will be sitting around the room, but you're there.

1385
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:39,840
You're yeah, that is interesting. What have you learned like

1386
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,920
since being retired? Maybe about yourself or or life? I mean,

1387
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,039
do we take I always think that we live wrong.

1388
01:10:47,199 --> 01:10:51,720
I think we're conditioned wrong. I don't think. I don't

1389
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,800
think the intention was to be wrong. I think it

1390
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:57,760
was the way we were conditioned. Religion such fire and brimstone.

1391
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 3: I think I was fortunate that I wasn't raised in

1392
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:04,800
a religious household. I was raised in a household that

1393
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:08,600
actually was kind of anti religion, especially anti Catholic. So

1394
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:12,199
then of course I became a Catholic. And I remember

1395
01:11:12,279 --> 01:11:14,079
my mother telling you one that they never baptized us.

1396
01:11:14,119 --> 01:11:15,640
And I remember asking my mother one to how come

1397
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:17,840
we're not how come you to baptize us because all

1398
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,279
my friends were baptized a little and everybody was a Catholic.

1399
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,239
She said, well, you know, there are a lot of

1400
01:11:24,279 --> 01:11:28,600
fine religions, and when you get to be an adult,

1401
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,279
you can make up your own mind what kind of

1402
01:11:31,319 --> 01:11:32,680
religion you want to be, Like, there are a lot

1403
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:36,960
of fine religions, and then there's the Catholics. And my

1404
01:11:37,039 --> 01:11:38,880
mother hated Catholics. I think it was because our nextraor

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neighbors were Catholic and they were like three quarters crazy.

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Speaker 1: But I just think all the time when I look

1407
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at the stuff, I go, boy, we're chasing this thing,

1408
01:11:47,159 --> 01:11:49,520
chasing this thing, and I think we need to do

1409
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,079
a little more to let it come to us. Yeah.

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01:11:53,199 --> 01:11:57,159
Speaker 3: I've just been really blessed because I've I always though

1411
01:11:57,279 --> 01:11:59,079
now I'm at that point in my life where I'm like, Okay,

1412
01:11:59,079 --> 01:12:01,800
I've done everything I want to do. There isn't anything else.

1413
01:12:03,079 --> 01:12:05,800
I'm getting to the point where I can't. Really, I'm

1414
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:07,479
not gonna be able to farm like I want a

1415
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:11,560
farm anymore, because it's just it's too much work. It's

1416
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:13,560
a lot of work. And you know, if you love

1417
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:15,359
it again, like making film, if you love it, you

1418
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:17,920
do that work, and you won't the fact that you

1419
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,520
make it fifty cents an hour. I don't care. In fact,

1420
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:22,680
it was the same thing with radio. I didn't care.

1421
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:24,279
I wasn't making that good of money for a long

1422
01:12:24,359 --> 01:12:27,000
time because I would have done it for free. Yes,

1423
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,159
And that's the same thing with farming. And it was

1424
01:12:30,199 --> 01:12:33,640
the same thing with film. But I haven't found the

1425
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:38,800
next thing. There is no once the farming's done. I

1426
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,520
guess there's walking dogs. Maybe I'll become a dog, you know,

1427
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:44,560
maybe dog walker. I could become not a dog walker.

1428
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,520
But they have this thing now where and I have

1429
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,119
enough land. I have eight acres of land. I could

1430
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:54,199
kind of fence my thing off and become a respit

1431
01:12:54,279 --> 01:12:57,800
place for dogs. Oh, they've got this. They've got an

1432
01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,479
app you can I don't know what it's called, but

1433
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:04,239
I get advertised for ore. You use your property and dogs.

1434
01:13:04,359 --> 01:13:08,319
You you take care of people's dogs for however long.

1435
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:09,600
Speaker 1: It could be interesting.

1436
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 3: It probably wouldn't work with my dogs, though.

1437
01:13:12,119 --> 01:13:12,520
Speaker 1: Why don't we?

1438
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 3: Uh?

1439
01:13:13,079 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 1: We wrote roast jokes for each other. And I think

1440
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:18,159
he wanted you to be the judge Stanley. He could

1441
01:13:18,159 --> 01:13:20,880
be the Jeff Ross, the Jeff Fross, the roast master.

1442
01:13:21,359 --> 01:13:24,720
So we'll take a ship the roast roasting, like you know,

1443
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:26,600
like where we rip on each other basically.

1444
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1445
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 1: Uh, Kevin has was very excited about this. I haven't.

1446
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:34,159
I I'm a little hesitant, but we'll Uh.

1447
01:13:35,399 --> 01:13:38,560
Speaker 3: I wrote it doesn't work, then it doesn't work. It doesn't.

1448
01:13:40,199 --> 01:13:41,239
Speaker 1: Anybody want a piece of cake?

1449
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:43,279
Speaker 3: That's great cake?

1450
01:13:43,359 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 1: Though? Yeah, I guarantee I go home and all this.

1451
01:13:46,079 --> 01:13:46,880
I'll wake up tomorrow.

1452
01:13:48,079 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 3: Let's pick up a little little thing of coffee ice

1453
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,600
cream beat with that can. That would make it absolutely okay?

1454
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:56,520
Speaker 1: We will. I will do that and we will do

1455
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,880
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Yeah this is New Stones, Yeah no it is not.

1501
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:51,720
This is Keith Richards the album he gave me, but

1502
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:56,319
this is their their last album. Hackney Diamonds would have

1503
01:16:56,399 --> 01:16:57,119
tested well.

1504
01:17:00,119 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 3: That. Yeah.

1505
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 1: I thought they sounded great. I thought, I mean, I

1506
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:09,479
don't know what they did to mixed voice in this,

1507
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:10,279
but it sounds.

1508
01:17:13,159 --> 01:17:16,600
Speaker 3: So I always find that really interesting is that, you know,

1509
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,560
and I know now from listening to all those things

1510
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,439
we were talking about backstage when they were young. You know,

1511
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:27,159
when you're young and you and you're just that's all

1512
01:17:27,239 --> 01:17:29,279
you live for is writing songs. And they sit around

1513
01:17:29,279 --> 01:17:31,880
every day and they write songs all day, and you know,

1514
01:17:32,119 --> 01:17:34,119
eight out of ten of them sucked, but two are

1515
01:17:34,159 --> 01:17:38,039
pretty good and one's a hit, right, And I just

1516
01:17:38,199 --> 01:17:41,199
I found that really interesting. I think it would be very,

1517
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,439
very frustrating. You had to be the guy in the

1518
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:47,680
band like, you know, George Harrison, that could write really

1519
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:50,960
good songs. Because in reality, now that we've got post

1520
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:53,920
time to go, the songs with the legs from the

1521
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:57,239
Beatles were from George Harrison, the ones that are going

1522
01:17:57,319 --> 01:18:00,119
to go on the next Geness it's my favorite. He

1523
01:18:00,239 --> 01:18:03,880
was my favorite Beatle. Yeah, George Harrison, so that I

1524
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:05,960
didn't like the Beatles when I was younger. Actually I

1525
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:07,760
hated him because they kept the four Seasons out of

1526
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,199
Number one and the four Seasons from my band. But

1527
01:18:10,319 --> 01:18:13,439
when I was in college, I did some LSD. I

1528
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:17,560
went to see and I went to see George Harrison's

1529
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:21,800
Bangladesh concert in the movie Theater and I thought, I

1530
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:23,159
was there, Yeah.

1531
01:18:23,199 --> 01:18:23,279
Speaker 1: And.

1532
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 3: I'd never I'd never experienced any music like that. Two

1533
01:18:29,039 --> 01:18:32,000
drummers and god knows how many guitarists they had up

1534
01:18:32,039 --> 01:18:33,880
and then the whole thing worked. It was like a

1535
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:37,399
natural wall of sound. And and I fell in love

1536
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:40,920
with George Harrison after that. Yeah, like a lot of

1537
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:46,399
the later stuff. But you know something, George Harrison, here

1538
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:48,159
comes the Sun. I mean, these are songs that are

1539
01:18:48,159 --> 01:18:49,560
going to be around for Eric Clapton.

1540
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 1: Seems like he could just be a dick supposedly he

1541
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:55,720
is good to be around, but he and George Harrison

1542
01:18:55,760 --> 01:19:00,279
were buddies and and he stole Harrison's wife or did

1543
01:19:00,359 --> 01:19:02,640
Harrison steal? No, it was Harrison's wife and that's what

1544
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,880
Layla was written about her. And I go, and then

1545
01:19:06,119 --> 01:19:09,680
they puppeer on stage together after all.

1546
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:10,239
Speaker 4: This, and I go.

1547
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:15,680
Speaker 3: It, does you realize the girl wasn't worth any relationship

1548
01:19:16,119 --> 01:19:16,960
more than yeah?

1549
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess that's really true, but that yeah,

1550
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:22,920
I always went, man, I'd love to talk to these

1551
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:25,520
guys because it was the same woman and she wound

1552
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:27,199
up leaving for Eric Clapton.

1553
01:19:28,039 --> 01:19:32,600
Speaker 3: But George, yeah, well everybody was doing god knows what

1554
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:33,800
drugs back.

1555
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:37,359
Speaker 1: Then, and you know Clapton in the early nineties. I

1556
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:41,000
had a girlfriend whose mom just loved Clapton and he

1557
01:19:41,119 --> 01:19:44,199
had that acoustic album that had come out, The Unplugged.

1558
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:49,399
Oh you played that all the time. What do you

1559
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:51,560
listen to? What do you listen to on your own?

1560
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:55,000
Do you like? I'm a lot of Eagles?

1561
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I like that kind of stuff. And you

1562
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:02,680
know it's it's again YouTube music. Just they just do

1563
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:06,279
an amazing job. I say, you know, play new Kid

1564
01:20:06,319 --> 01:20:08,520
in Town. By the Eagles, and four hours later on

1565
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:12,000
so played and if I don't like it, to say next, right,

1566
01:20:12,359 --> 01:20:13,840
and they come up with a good song, you know,

1567
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:17,560
and it's and and it's it's the deal where you know,

1568
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:20,239
like when we were programming on radio, we were trying

1569
01:20:20,279 --> 01:20:23,159
to do to make the oh wow right, you know fact,

1570
01:20:23,399 --> 01:20:25,640
And it's tough to do oh wow when you're on

1571
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:29,560
the radio because oh wow for us some people is

1572
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:32,720
like completely unfamiliar for the vast majority. If it's an

1573
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:34,079
oh wow, that means it hasn't been played for a

1574
01:20:34,119 --> 01:20:36,520
long time. And chances are it hasn't been played for

1575
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:38,600
a long time because it didn't research well or whatever,

1576
01:20:39,199 --> 01:20:45,239
or it didn't sell well. But with YouTube, uh, you know,

1577
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:48,520
you're in every day there's wow. I can't believe I

1578
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:50,880
heard that song. I I literally haven't heard that song

1579
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:53,520
of forty years and and I didn't like it very

1580
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:55,279
much now but I like it now. What I just found.

1581
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:57,640
Speaker 1: I just found a new Joe, you know, Joe South,

1582
01:20:58,520 --> 01:20:59,239
No Joe South.

1583
01:20:59,319 --> 01:21:03,279
Speaker 3: He did walk them out on my shoes and great artists,

1584
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:06,079
not very big, but he had a couple of legitimate

1585
01:21:06,159 --> 01:21:08,039
top forty hits walk them out on my Shoes was

1586
01:21:08,079 --> 01:21:10,840
one of them, and uh, I can't remember what the

1587
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,319
other one was, but I just YouTube just played one

1588
01:21:13,359 --> 01:21:18,239
that I'd never heard by him the other day, You

1589
01:21:18,279 --> 01:21:21,239
want to go Home. I want to go Home, And

1590
01:21:21,399 --> 01:21:24,319
I was like, wow, what a great too, and I

1591
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,000
just get a kick out of it for thirty song.

1592
01:21:28,319 --> 01:21:28,680
Speaker 1: This is it?

1593
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 3: This is is this walk them out of my shoes?

1594
01:21:31,039 --> 01:21:32,640
Speaker 1: No, this is games people playing play.

1595
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:34,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the big head. This is walking out

1596
01:21:34,399 --> 01:21:35,560
of my shoes with the follow.

1597
01:21:35,399 --> 01:21:40,319
Speaker 1: Up to this, So this has got to be like,

1598
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:44,319
uh sick late six. Yeah, because I always thought the

1599
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:47,640
Eagles were more of a country band until Joe Walsh

1600
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,880
joined and came. Yeah, they were kind of soft and

1601
01:21:51,039 --> 01:21:54,279
softer and country isn't right because it's not what they were.

1602
01:21:54,399 --> 01:21:58,199
They were more Americana, but they were, Yeah, they could have,

1603
01:21:58,399 --> 01:22:05,960
you know, in a different yes age. I didn't know

1604
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:10,359
and never heard of Joe South. He sounds made up.

1605
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:14,760
He played with Benny's.

1606
01:22:17,199 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 3: Tommy North.

1607
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 1: All right, Kevin wants to He wanted to do a

1608
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:29,399
roast in a roast battle. So I just wanted you. Yeah,

1609
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:31,960
I wanted me to start writing some jokes and stuff

1610
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,399
and I I haven't in a while. So the roast

1611
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,960
is where I mean, you can really you know, you

1612
01:22:37,039 --> 01:22:39,000
gotta have some thick skin sometimes with these.

1613
01:22:39,319 --> 01:22:41,159
Speaker 4: So I'll give you take an example. I'll give you

1614
01:22:41,159 --> 01:22:45,079
an example. Bill, you're the human version of menstreal cramps. Okay,

1615
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:49,840
why your eyes rolling in your head?

1616
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:53,159
Speaker 1: Are you looking for your brain? Okay? All right, okay,

1617
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:56,359
all right, okay, so your birthday? You can lead off?

1618
01:22:56,359 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 3: All right.

1619
01:22:57,159 --> 01:23:00,560
Speaker 1: So Kevin has three kids and they're all in hockey,

1620
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,359
his sons. So Kevin is great hockey dad, which is

1621
01:23:03,399 --> 01:23:06,399
fitting because just like the Zamboni, he's slow, loud, and

1622
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:08,640
leaves a puddle of beer behind wherever he goes.

1623
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:13,640
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, where's the left track?

1624
01:23:15,279 --> 01:23:19,079
Speaker 1: Track? Have a left track on? He didn't play, didn't

1625
01:23:19,079 --> 01:23:19,479
deserve it.

1626
01:23:21,319 --> 01:23:23,359
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. The left track is the most important

1627
01:23:23,359 --> 01:23:24,239
when they don't deserve it.

1628
01:23:25,279 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 1: So there you go. All right, Okay, all right, we're ready.

1629
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:28,920
Do you look at you guy?

1630
01:23:29,199 --> 01:23:31,520
Speaker 4: No one has ever overestimated the only age who's son

1631
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:32,960
in high school with your girlfriend's teds.

1632
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:37,159
Speaker 3: The only turn the goddamn laugh track off when he's

1633
01:23:37,199 --> 01:23:39,920
delivering laughing to laugh and the joke's over.

1634
01:23:41,119 --> 01:23:45,039
Speaker 1: All right, hang on, you know what this bad producing,

1635
01:23:45,399 --> 01:23:48,840
bad producing. Kevin ignores his wife so much. She's basically

1636
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:51,640
a hockey puck, always getting slapped around and passed to

1637
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:52,319
the next guy.

1638
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:58,520
Speaker 4: Okay, the kind of guy who could do cocaine and eat.

1639
01:24:03,399 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 1: One for Kevin? All right, here we go. Kevin is

1640
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,239
so overweight and drunk all the time. The only cardio

1641
01:24:08,319 --> 01:24:10,079
he gets is hauling his gut up the bleachers and

1642
01:24:10,159 --> 01:24:12,800
yelling at reps like they're responsible for his sex life.

1643
01:24:15,159 --> 01:24:18,119
What do you mean, man, Yeah, I practice.

1644
01:24:19,399 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 3: He don't make fun of you can't. You can't call

1645
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:23,640
the fat guy a fat guy. First of all, you know.

1646
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 1: That's that's not cool.

1647
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:27,279
Speaker 3: All Kevin's a big guy.

1648
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:34,079
Speaker 1: You look like a tobth operator a glory hole. Uh,

1649
01:24:35,079 --> 01:24:37,680
Kevin's a great well see, now here's another one that

1650
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:41,119
I did. It's just similar. Kevin's a great hockey dad

1651
01:24:41,119 --> 01:24:42,880
because he lives through his boys success. Too bad. The

1652
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:48,920
only thing he ever scored was type two diabetes. Not bad,

1653
01:24:50,399 --> 01:24:52,000
all right. You look at the kind of guy that

1654
01:24:52,079 --> 01:24:57,000
goes to the gym to skip on the treadmill. All right, okay,

1655
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,680
Kevin's Uh, they liked it, Yeah, they did, They love it.

1656
01:25:02,159 --> 01:25:04,520
Kevin ignores his wife so much she should qualify for

1657
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:09,039
a widow's pension. The only time he touches her is

1658
01:25:09,079 --> 01:25:12,159
when she makes mistake, when he mistakes her for a

1659
01:25:12,199 --> 01:25:13,439
plate of nachos in the dark.

1660
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:20,399
Speaker 3: Okay, you gotta you gotta memorize the lines. Stumble on

1661
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:20,760
a joke.

1662
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 1: I paused to see if they was gonna get any

1663
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:27,399
reaction after the widow's pension. Okay, I eat meals with

1664
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:28,000
my family.

1665
01:25:28,319 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 4: You eat meals and family sized bags and chips, And yes,

1666
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:31,800
I completely understanding irony of.

1667
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:38,239
Speaker 1: Me the pot calling you the kettle fat Kevin calls

1668
01:25:38,279 --> 01:25:41,119
hanging out in the garage. Kevin calls it hanging out

1669
01:25:41,159 --> 01:25:44,880
in the garage, but really it's just him chainsmoking, crushing beards,

1670
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:48,000
and ignoring his wife so hard she's considering moving in

1671
01:25:48,119 --> 01:25:50,720
with Bob the neighbor for actual human contact.

1672
01:25:54,279 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 3: That's a long punch line, But the punchline is longer

1673
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:57,079
than the setup.

1674
01:25:59,279 --> 01:26:01,279
Speaker 4: I've seen your already set, and I'm ashamed to admit

1675
01:26:01,279 --> 01:26:02,680
I've written some of it. But thank God, the only

1676
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:04,159
impressions you leave are the ones you use on the

1677
01:26:04,159 --> 01:26:04,880
ground when you walk.

1678
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:09,239
Speaker 1: I think Kevin won that we go back to the

1679
01:26:09,279 --> 01:26:11,039
one that really babe left. There was one in there,

1680
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:16,239
the one that you're kind of eating cocaine. That's a

1681
01:26:16,279 --> 01:26:21,800
good one. Yeah, I call it Kevin. Yeah, all right,

1682
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:25,560
that's all right. It's a It's Okay Sandy podcast. But no, no, no, no, no.

1683
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:29,560
I I I got worked today a little bit better. Yeah.

1684
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:31,840
Well he's been very excited about this all week, and

1685
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:35,039
I was like, yeah, a little bit more. Yeah, I

1686
01:26:35,199 --> 01:26:38,800
had most of my day was getting for Verizon to

1687
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:40,880
try to deliver a new phone before my son leaves

1688
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:42,720
to see his mother because he broke his phone. And

1689
01:26:44,359 --> 01:26:46,199
well she didn't have to deal with customer services, said

1690
01:26:46,199 --> 01:26:48,399
you had to do it all online, right, No, yeah,

1691
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:51,960
but I needed to talk to somebody and they outsource everything.

1692
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:53,680
Speaker 3: Now, So is there anything else we can help you

1693
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:53,920
with this?

1694
01:26:54,159 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 1: M m yes, that's exactly what it is.

1695
01:26:56,039 --> 01:26:56,399
Speaker 3: And that's.

1696
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 1: My name is Mike. Yeah, that's exactly what they do.

1697
01:27:02,279 --> 01:27:05,359
That is exactly what they do. Stanley. Any political thoughts

1698
01:27:05,399 --> 01:27:09,600
you are always a political guy at a pretty good Yeah.

1699
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 3: I am Debbie Downer on politics. I I I think

1700
01:27:15,079 --> 01:27:17,800
the thing that I find so frustrating about politics is

1701
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:21,000
liberals really, which I consider myself a little.

1702
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:23,520
Speaker 1: Bit Yeah, and Uh, well, I wish more people would

1703
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:23,760
say that.

1704
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 3: I uh. I think the thing that liberals don't understand.

1705
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:31,439
Two things that liberals don't understand is structurally we're at

1706
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:34,640
a huge disadvantage in this country and in the world,

1707
01:27:35,079 --> 01:27:39,359
because typically liberal movements are made up of several smaller groups,

1708
01:27:40,239 --> 01:27:43,279
and conservatives are made up of typically two big business

1709
01:27:43,319 --> 01:27:46,319
and religion, right, and as long as they can throw

1710
01:27:46,359 --> 01:27:48,439
each other at bone every once in a while, they

1711
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:51,640
can keep each other happy, whereas with with liberals, it's

1712
01:27:51,720 --> 01:28:00,479
you know, gays, uh, immigrants, maybe lesbians, whatever, there's a

1713
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:03,600
half a dozen of them. They're slipping my mind. They

1714
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:08,279
all are. But podcasters, podcasters, maybe not all podcasters, the

1715
01:28:08,359 --> 01:28:11,439
most big podcasters are at least they say they're not.

1716
01:28:13,119 --> 01:28:15,039
I think the money is in it, and the money,

1717
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:19,560
but we're splintered, we as a group, and it's very

1718
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:24,920
difficult to get people to understand that structurally we're a

1719
01:28:25,079 --> 01:28:27,920
deficit to begin with. So we have to unite, and

1720
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:30,680
it's almost impossible. I mean, we're still fighting. Liberals are

1721
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:33,920
still fighting over twenty sixteen, and we've lost the Senate,

1722
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,039
and we've lost the House, and we've lost the Supreme

1723
01:28:36,119 --> 01:28:40,039
Court and we've lost the presidency. We've literally we've literally

1724
01:28:40,199 --> 01:28:43,239
lost by putting up two very competent, the two most

1725
01:28:43,319 --> 01:28:47,319
qualified candidates that we could run, Al Gore and Hillary Clinton,

1726
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:53,680
and we lost those elections to people that were George

1727
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:55,720
Wush is nowhere near as qualified to be president of

1728
01:28:55,760 --> 01:29:00,399
the United States as Al Gore was. And Hillary Clinton

1729
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:04,439
was literally the most qualified candidate that we could find,

1730
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,279
and we couldn't get her over the top because why

1731
01:29:08,119 --> 01:29:12,239
and and she loses to literally the most unqualified and

1732
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:15,520
arguably one of the worst human beings that's ever lived

1733
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:19,840
since the beginning of time, but very good at marketing. Yeah,

1734
01:29:20,079 --> 01:29:23,199
and we so we have to unify because we we

1735
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:27,560
we we're deficit. The other thing a structural deficit. The

1736
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:33,760
other thing that I find very frustrating is the idea. Okay,

1737
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:35,279
I'm i going to lose my train of thought here.

1738
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:41,479
It's like I'm stoned. I'm not even stoned the shoot,

1739
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:42,880
I can't remember what the other thing I was going

1740
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:43,239
to say.

1741
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:51,359
Speaker 1: It's like Cato and Kevin Gilliner back right, Yeah, No,

1742
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:53,359
We've got we That's the thing.

1743
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 3: The big piece is we're arguing now about who's going

1744
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:01,239
to be the presidential candidate in twenty twenty eight. Mine,

1745
01:30:01,399 --> 01:30:02,840
that's all, that's all you talk about.

1746
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, is it going to be new?

1747
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:09,359
Speaker 3: The guy in California who's the comes Newsom And that's

1748
01:30:09,399 --> 01:30:12,279
not what we should be focused on. The presidency is

1749
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:15,960
nothing without the Senate and without the House. And we've

1750
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:19,560
got the House and the Senate, major, major numbers of

1751
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:22,600
those people are up for reelection in two years, not

1752
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:24,680
even two years, a year and a half, not even

1753
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:27,520
quite a year and a half. But we're fighting about

1754
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:29,800
who we're going to nominate in twenty twenty eight. It

1755
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:33,399
doesn't matter who we nominate in twenty twenty eight if

1756
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:35,159
we don't have the House and we don't have the Senate.

1757
01:30:36,039 --> 01:30:39,359
Joe Manchin as president, we don't know who Joe Manson is, right,

1758
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:43,399
Joe Manson's president would be way more effective for liberals

1759
01:30:44,199 --> 01:30:47,520
than Bernie Sanders if Joe Manchin had a Democratic House

1760
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:50,159
and a Democratic center, right, Bernie Sanders would be if

1761
01:30:50,199 --> 01:30:52,399
he had a Republican House, Republican Senate, the House, in

1762
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:56,520
the Senate, that's it's the Senate. Stupid. It used to

1763
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:58,520
be my I used to have a logo.

1764
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:02,600
Speaker 1: Or it's interesting because I often think like sometimes you know,

1765
01:31:03,079 --> 01:31:05,680
the pendulum swings right when we go so far one

1766
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:08,560
way and back another and so far on. But it

1767
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:12,279
does sometimes feel like we do become too splintered and

1768
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:16,680
it's all about different interest groups interests, and we're not

1769
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:18,239
the collective.

1770
01:31:18,319 --> 01:31:21,399
Speaker 3: Good Obama was a great example. Obama's elected, and he

1771
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:23,359
has the House, and he has the Senate. He had

1772
01:31:23,399 --> 01:31:26,560
it for two years. Yeah, and they pass major healthcare

1773
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:30,800
reform that was good for everybody. Arguably they haven't been

1774
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:32,439
able to get rid of it because it was a

1775
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:34,520
good thing and it was a Republican idea.

1776
01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:34,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1777
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:37,560
Speaker 3: Well, I mean they wanted universal healthcare. Republicans said, no,

1778
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:41,000
do it this way. Keep big business involved well, and

1779
01:31:41,119 --> 01:31:43,640
keep the health insurance companies healthy and they can take

1780
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:45,600
they can do the paperwork and be more efficient. And

1781
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:50,119
maybe maybe it was in any case, he didn't take

1782
01:31:50,159 --> 01:31:53,239
care of immigrants. I was running an immigrant shelter in

1783
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:56,199
Austin at the time. Didn't take care of immigrants. No,

1784
01:31:56,560 --> 01:32:01,000
And by two years later they're all pissed. How come

1785
01:32:01,079 --> 01:32:02,840
he hasn't done anything for Doc guy. You know, he's

1786
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:06,319
always done his mouth and blah blah blah. He he

1787
01:32:06,399 --> 01:32:08,760
doesn't he can't do everything all at once. A president

1788
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,520
can only do like one thing a year, one major

1789
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:13,479
thing a year. That's all they can really do, even

1790
01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:15,000
if they have the House and they have the Senate.

1791
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:19,000
So they're pissed. Gays are pissed because Obama won't do

1792
01:32:20,119 --> 01:32:26,720
marriage quick enough, and so two years later we lose

1793
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:29,119
the House, we lose the Senate, and then they can't

1794
01:32:29,159 --> 01:32:30,800
do anything but do executive.

1795
01:32:30,399 --> 01:32:33,680
Speaker 1: Orders, which don't do squat four years later.

1796
01:32:34,159 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 3: So it's really important for liberals to understand that we

1797
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:40,239
have to focus on what's important and what's important, that

1798
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:44,239
the president is just a show piece, and Donald Trump

1799
01:32:44,319 --> 01:32:47,560
isn't easily the most effective president we've ever had since

1800
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:50,520
this country has been affected because he knows that the

1801
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:53,279
only power of the presidency is the bully pulpit. That's

1802
01:32:53,359 --> 01:32:57,000
what the president does. He monfor. He takes that bully

1803
01:32:57,039 --> 01:32:59,359
pulpit like nobody's ever done it and nobody will ever

1804
01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:02,640
probably do it again. Yeah, I mean, I remember when

1805
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:07,039
Barack Obama was president. After ninety days, the big thing

1806
01:33:07,279 --> 01:33:12,199
was people are tired of Obama. They don't want to

1807
01:33:12,239 --> 01:33:15,920
hear anything more from Obama after ninety days, so he

1808
01:33:16,119 --> 01:33:18,720
toned it down. That's not what Donald Trump does.

1809
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:22,359
Speaker 1: No, he rips it up. The motherhucker has been above

1810
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:26,159
the fold every day for ten years. Yeah, you gotta

1811
01:33:26,199 --> 01:33:29,239
give him that. I have said often that if you

1812
01:33:29,399 --> 01:33:32,680
believe in something called the law of attraction, where you know,

1813
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:35,000
you can kind of speak things into existence. This is

1814
01:33:35,039 --> 01:33:37,960
what people will say. I go, he does not speak

1815
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:42,079
negatively about himself or about anything he's involved in. It's

1816
01:33:42,079 --> 01:33:45,079
always the biggest, the best. It's a big, beautiful bill.

1817
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:47,920
It's this, it's that. Whether I don't know what it is,

1818
01:33:48,279 --> 01:33:51,159
I'm just looking, I'm just looking at the pattern throughout

1819
01:33:51,199 --> 01:33:54,399
his life. I go, Holy shit, he has And you're right.

1820
01:33:55,319 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 3: A great book written, Fire and Fury. There were two

1821
01:33:58,479 --> 01:34:01,359
books written after the two thousands sixteen campaign. One of

1822
01:34:01,399 --> 01:34:06,560
them was from that guy that looks like no, No,

1823
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:10,199
the the consultant that he has that looks like he's

1824
01:34:10,399 --> 01:34:16,640
got or something I can't remember, Steve somebody. And they

1825
01:34:17,359 --> 01:34:21,399
they talked about it and in this book, and it's

1826
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:24,920
totally come to be that all we do is shoot

1827
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:27,840
at the wall and keep them talking about other shit.

1828
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:31,800
And that makes no difference whatsoever whether they talk about it,

1829
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:35,119
whether you know, you know, like single Gate was a

1830
01:34:35,159 --> 01:34:38,439
great example of them doing this because single Gate was

1831
01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:42,960
a legitimate problem for them. I mean that National secrets. Yes,

1832
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:47,279
this was a bad one. If they could have really,

1833
01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:53,039
at least the moron that's running the best department could

1834
01:34:53,079 --> 01:34:56,159
have lost his job. But he didn't because the next

1835
01:34:56,239 --> 01:34:58,680
day Donald Trump's talking about running for a fourth term,

1836
01:34:59,399 --> 01:35:06,680
a third term, you know, and the podcast everybody believe

1837
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:09,159
he's gonna run for a third term. Well, he's not

1838
01:35:09,199 --> 01:35:10,680
gonna run for a third term. The other ferd is

1839
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:13,479
gonna quit next year. He's gonna get somebody to take over.

1840
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:16,359
If I wouldn't be a bit surprised with what he

1841
01:35:16,399 --> 01:35:19,119
puts that little schmucker, it's the vice president as president,

1842
01:35:19,159 --> 01:35:21,239
so we can run as president. All he's got to

1843
01:35:21,279 --> 01:35:22,479
do is get the guy to say, look, and you

1844
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:23,960
make sure that I get taken care of it. None

1845
01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:26,560
of my family's prosecuted for anything, and I'll take care

1846
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:28,800
of you, and then I go play golf for the rest.

1847
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:31,000
I'm gonna have to keep doing this every day, I

1848
01:35:31,039 --> 01:35:32,840
would bet, but that's my prediction.

1849
01:35:33,039 --> 01:35:37,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I it's interesting, and I guess I'm glad

1850
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:40,760
I'm alive to see it would be the thing. Yeah,

1851
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:43,279
because only if nothing else, Like I always think this

1852
01:35:44,199 --> 01:35:46,880
to your point with the Senate and how I always

1853
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:51,159
think what affects my daily life is usually local politics, right,

1854
01:35:51,319 --> 01:35:53,640
not so much of the national and so, and we

1855
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:55,720
don't pay enough attention to that, and a lot of

1856
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:58,079
this other shit is just noise. I don't watch the

1857
01:35:58,199 --> 01:36:00,640
news as much because I find it very depressing and

1858
01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:02,920
I like to try to be a little bit on

1859
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:06,000
a higher vibration, so to speak, and so I will

1860
01:36:06,079 --> 01:36:07,600
do that. There are times I turn it on. I

1861
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:09,840
want to see what's happening, but I'll read. I'd rather

1862
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:13,920
read it. It's less impactful than hearing somebody go today.

1863
01:36:16,359 --> 01:36:19,479
Speaker 3: Because say fucking thing. I don't want to hear. You

1864
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:21,680
can tell me what he says, but please don't play

1865
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the audience. Yeah, I don't want to hear the motherfucker.

1866
01:36:24,239 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 1: But well, and I have to say that I find

1867
01:36:28,199 --> 01:36:34,520
Donald Trump at times hysterical, which is we shouldn't, but

1868
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:37,279
I do. Like were I think there was somebody trying

1869
01:36:37,279 --> 01:36:40,359
to talk about immigrants and she said something to the

1870
01:36:40,399 --> 01:36:42,760
effect of, we just need to keep the country safe,

1871
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:44,920
and we're not we do love these people, and he goes,

1872
01:36:45,079 --> 01:36:50,119
I don't love everybody. I know, this guy's the best,

1873
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:55,199
but again he's speaking a truth to a certain population.

1874
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:58,039
Could we find a middle ground. That's the problem. I

1875
01:36:58,119 --> 01:37:01,680
feel like we've become so splintered. We want to say

1876
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:05,279
on each side. I think with any within one side

1877
01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:09,079
is very splintered, very splintered, and it's too bad.

1878
01:37:09,159 --> 01:37:11,640
Speaker 3: Liberal movement is yeah, it's all the world.

1879
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1880
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:15,000
Speaker 3: And that's how strong men like that. They know they're

1881
01:37:15,039 --> 01:37:17,880
not going to get in, you know, you know, being

1882
01:37:18,039 --> 01:37:21,159
doing that with liberal stuff because it doesn't work. And

1883
01:37:21,279 --> 01:37:24,840
that's just the way that podcasting and you got Fox

1884
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:27,840
News all the MSNBC doesn't work compared to that.

1885
01:37:28,039 --> 01:37:30,680
Speaker 1: The MS now I know, which is chased.

1886
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Speaker 3: Another brilliant things.

1887
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Speaker 1: He wants nothing to do with them.

1888
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:36,119
Speaker 5: Now.

1889
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:40,960
Speaker 1: Trump says something like it's gonna fail. It awful, the terrible.

1890
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They gonna check and I just go, this is the you.

1891
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:47,920
Speaker 3: Well, we have to hope that they're right because I'm

1892
01:37:48,079 --> 01:37:50,880
I've always been. I'm a rabbit, yellow dog Democrat, always

1893
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:54,640
have been for Georgia McGovern The first my first election

1894
01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:58,079
when I was eighteen, and I voted for Democrats. Ever since,

1895
01:37:58,159 --> 01:38:00,760
I voted for one Republican here in town one time

1896
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:02,920
because he's running on the independent line and lived to

1897
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:08,520
regret it. But you know, it is what it is,

1898
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:11,560
and you're absolutely right. At least it's entertaining. You got

1899
01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:17,560
to give the guy credit. Yeah, and maybe they're right. Yeah, fundamentally,

1900
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I don't think so. I think immigrants have been the

1901
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:23,560
lifeblood of this country. Yes, it's absolutely outrageous what we're doing.

1902
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:27,800
But you know, I talk to my neighbors who are

1903
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:31,520
not as liberal as I am, and they but stand

1904
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:34,359
it's effective and you can't argue with that. It absolutely

1905
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:37,399
is effective. They have stopped the border crossing who wants

1906
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:40,199
to come. Not only have they stopped the immigrants from

1907
01:38:40,199 --> 01:38:42,760
coming over, they're stopping the tourists from coming over because

1908
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:45,520
tourists are afraid they're gonna get sent to El Salvador

1909
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:48,640
and putting through a log. You know it's true, you're

1910
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:51,800
right now. I mean it is effective. That's how much

1911
01:38:52,079 --> 01:38:56,600
is going to Yeah, it's going to be great. If

1912
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:59,680
I live five more years, it'd be cool to see

1913
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:00,800
what what happens.

1914
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:03,079
Speaker 1: What happens next, Yeah, what happens next. There are people

1915
01:39:03,159 --> 01:39:05,560
that will say he was needed to get us to

1916
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:06,319
where we need to go.

1917
01:39:08,239 --> 01:39:12,720
Speaker 3: Without a doubt. He's exposed us for what we really

1918
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:17,359
are because prior to two thousand and six, everything about

1919
01:39:17,399 --> 01:39:19,640
the country that I thought we lived in, right, and

1920
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:23,560
now it's now you see it. So now you gotta go, okay,

1921
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:26,800
are we happy with this or we want to change it?

1922
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:29,520
Speaker 1: Right? Wow, that's a good note to him. Not happy

1923
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:31,600
with it or she could change it? Stanley. I am

1924
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:33,239
honored that you took us mind.

1925
01:39:33,119 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 3: And drive all the way you'd have the old.

1926
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Speaker 1: It took.

1927
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:42,720
Speaker 4: It took getting the supervisor of RAIGA to get Stanley

1928
01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:43,840
Commoud his a friend of mine.

1929
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Speaker 1: Oh really, you got the supervisor of RAYGA. Mister Brockt

1930
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:48,359
is a good friend of mine.

1931
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Speaker 3: Yeah, really, my son, you didn't really know. He probably

1932
01:39:54,199 --> 01:39:57,000
knows my name because I ran for office over there?

1933
01:39:57,199 --> 01:39:57,319
Is it?

1934
01:39:57,399 --> 01:39:59,199
Speaker 1: Brad? You're telling you be rad?

1935
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:02,439
Speaker 3: You know he's he's all right, he's a good guy.

1936
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Speaker 1: And I gotta say it's all Republicans and.

1937
01:40:06,079 --> 01:40:08,840
Speaker 3: I you know this is you're probably wrapping this.

1938
01:40:09,159 --> 01:40:10,119
Speaker 1: I was trying to go ahead.

1939
01:40:11,399 --> 01:40:15,199
Speaker 3: This is something that's frustrating for me when I ran Okay,

1940
01:40:15,199 --> 01:40:17,880
because I ran and I'm talking to that, I couldn't

1941
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:21,319
say these I should say this. They won't be listening.

1942
01:40:23,239 --> 01:40:25,319
Some of the dumbest scrap I hear comes out of

1943
01:40:25,399 --> 01:40:27,000
the Democrat committees that I'm on.

1944
01:40:27,479 --> 01:40:29,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had one. I had one.

1945
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:33,039
Speaker 3: I had one lady. I had one lady. I think

1946
01:40:33,119 --> 01:40:36,640
she's still in the committee. And she told me one

1947
01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:39,880
day at a picnic, she said she couldn't vote for RANDERW.

1948
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:40,239
Speaker 1: Cuomo.

1949
01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:42,920
Speaker 3: And I said, why not. He's a he's a good Democrat,

1950
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:45,239
and he's done a pretty good job as governor. He

1951
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:48,920
got gay marriage in before long. He got good gun

1952
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:51,560
control laws in here that have actually saved a few lives.

1953
01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:53,960
What what is it that you don't like about him?

1954
01:40:55,279 --> 01:40:58,119
He's the reason that children are texting while they're driving now.

1955
01:40:59,359 --> 01:41:01,920
And I said, well, why would you say that. He

1956
01:41:02,079 --> 01:41:04,680
made it illegal for them to talk on their cell phone,

1957
01:41:06,279 --> 01:41:10,359
so now they text on their cell phone. I said,

1958
01:41:10,359 --> 01:41:12,960
you weren't serious. You can't be serious.

1959
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:15,439
Speaker 1: Now there's a touch free right New York City is

1960
01:41:15,720 --> 01:41:17,880
you can't touch your phone while you're driving. You get

1961
01:41:17,880 --> 01:41:18,159
a ticket.

1962
01:41:18,319 --> 01:41:21,960
Speaker 3: But the whole idea and did anything but sign the bill,

1963
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:23,439
didn't do it?

1964
01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:23,680
Speaker 1: No?

1965
01:41:24,119 --> 01:41:26,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And that's that's the kind of thing that

1966
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:26,960
you know.

1967
01:41:27,079 --> 01:41:33,840
Speaker 1: I just there's non thinking and and ridiculous, and sometimes

1968
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:36,159
I think we go to extreme and everybody's out for

1969
01:41:36,279 --> 01:41:40,520
their own interest or not looking at the right thing,

1970
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:42,880
you know. I mean, ball reform is a big one

1971
01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:46,439
that has caused lots of problems for people. Right with

1972
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:48,439
all these keys that had been selling his kid after

1973
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:50,600
kid that got out got out. I think they I

1974
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:53,239
think the kid the guy who was stocking women on

1975
01:41:53,279 --> 01:41:56,359
the canal and then followed somebody. He had been released

1976
01:41:56,399 --> 01:42:00,359
two or three times, but again, but the spirit of

1977
01:42:00,399 --> 01:42:02,319
the law that was made I think was good.

1978
01:42:02,399 --> 01:42:04,560
Speaker 3: Was good. But then they want to they want to

1979
01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:05,960
get rid of it. That's the guy I was talking.

1980
01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:08,319
I can't remember the stupid Republican's name. That the first

1981
01:42:08,359 --> 01:42:09,560
thing he did to me. I was at the computer

1982
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:10,439
sports launching one time.

1983
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:13,600
Speaker 1: He comes up to me goes, it's dead criminals out

1984
01:42:13,640 --> 01:42:15,279
on the street, and.

1985
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:18,600
Speaker 3: Like, no, they're not. They're not letting the criminals out

1986
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:20,920
on the street anymore than they're letting the millionaires out

1987
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:23,239
on the street. They can they can pay their paid

1988
01:42:23,319 --> 01:42:26,319
for bail. I mean, they haven't been convicted of anything.

1989
01:42:26,359 --> 01:42:29,119
They shouldn't be in prison. We don't put enough money

1990
01:42:29,119 --> 01:42:32,720
into our justice system so that they get rapids right,

1991
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:35,800
So they need to be able to get out if

1992
01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:39,640
they haven't committed a violent act. Okay, so if they are,

1993
01:42:40,399 --> 01:42:42,840
you know, taking advantage of that law, then you modify

1994
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:44,680
the law, but you don't get rid of the law,

1995
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:46,479
which is what they want to do because they want

1996
01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:49,079
to keep They don't like poor people breaking the law,

1997
01:42:49,199 --> 01:42:50,720
so they want to put them away, so they don't

1998
01:42:50,760 --> 01:42:51,479
bring the law right.

1999
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:53,680
Speaker 1: And I think the spirit of the law to me,

2000
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:55,439
and I've said this all the time, is great. But

2001
01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:58,600
then what happens is it's like, you know, the road

2002
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:00,279
to hell is paid with good intentions, all of a

2003
01:43:00,319 --> 01:43:02,800
sudden it goes too far in some way. And is

2004
01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:04,560
there a way to put guardrails on these things?

2005
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:09,399
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Every but every action has a reaction, right, so

2006
01:43:10,039 --> 01:43:11,840
you've just got to deal with the reaction. You got

2007
01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:14,239
to bring it back. But that's not what they want

2008
01:43:14,279 --> 01:43:16,800
to do. They want it they want to hyper bob

2009
01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:19,039
hyper or whatever.

2010
01:43:19,119 --> 01:43:21,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, they want to make it all hyperbole and it's

2011
01:43:21,279 --> 01:43:22,239
the worst in the world and.

2012
01:43:22,319 --> 01:43:24,920
Speaker 3: Things that people and you know, these they were violent

2013
01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:27,039
criminals out. No, they weren't letting violent criminals. They were

2014
01:43:27,079 --> 01:43:30,319
letting mischievous kids out, you know, and if they were violent,

2015
01:43:30,399 --> 01:43:32,359
then they couldn't do it because that was part of

2016
01:43:32,399 --> 01:43:32,720
the law.

2017
01:43:34,319 --> 01:43:38,600
Speaker 1: We's hit the song, Candles in the cars. God, those

2018
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:42,239
fights were the best. Oh, Dave would get pissed. He

2019
01:43:42,359 --> 01:43:45,439
would come storming in and screaming because it was all

2020
01:43:45,479 --> 01:43:49,880
the commercials that were left. That's what you would get. Yeah,

2021
01:43:52,079 --> 01:43:56,680
for Stanley Maine, Kevin Muir, I'm Bill Moran. We'll see

2022
01:43:56,720 --> 01:43:56,960
you on.

2023
01:44:00,039 --> 01:44:02,159
Speaker 2: I turn a TV on and rule a letter to

2024
01:44:02,279 --> 01:44:04,960
you and this will stop in by the dagoning about

2025
01:44:05,039 --> 01:44:05,960
me in inter statement.

2026
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:09,920
Speaker 1: You see, they were looking for a kind of light

2027
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:10,600
with Tennessee