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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy crap, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know who the hell we think we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Get off our show, idiot. The kids are playing or

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<v Speaker 1>tail off, crying. The countries are screwing it up. Gold

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<v Speaker 1>Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold Play Inner Murals.

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<v Speaker 4>They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 3>Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Nick coffee?

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<v Speaker 4>All right, good afternoon, Welcome in Game day edition. Here

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<v Speaker 4>Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven

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<v Speaker 4>ninety Nick Coffee with you. We've got Austin Montgomery once

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<v Speaker 4>again back in the house as we take you up

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<v Speaker 4>until six o'clock. And there is a lot to get

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<v Speaker 4>into here today. And I was going to start by

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<v Speaker 4>letting you know that I cannot wait till nine o'clock

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<v Speaker 4>tonight to act like a lunatic and just lose my mind,

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<v Speaker 4>kind of like I did during those games in the Bahamas.

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<v Speaker 4>And I hope that that's the case, because I would

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<v Speaker 4>say that if I'm losing my mind and I'm really

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<v Speaker 4>you know, in rare form worrying about maybe waking up

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<v Speaker 4>my kids, who my kid and the kids won't be asleep,

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<v Speaker 4>they're gonna watch with me.

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<v Speaker 3>But my point is like.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm excited about tonight and everything about the Bahamas trip,

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<v Speaker 4>the battle for Atlantis last week made me feel alive.

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<v Speaker 4>The excitement and the I mean just the awesome, awesome

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<v Speaker 4>result in the first game against Indiana where you just

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<v Speaker 4>bent them over. I mean Mike Woodson, I mean he's

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<v Speaker 4>still recovering from the ass whooping that Pat Kelsey gave him.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the next game it was a heart I

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<v Speaker 4>mean it was it was I was at a heart attack,

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<v Speaker 4>almost died. I feel like I'm at Churchill Down's with

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<v Speaker 4>the family for Thanksgiving because that's what we do, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just off in a corner by myself, watching on

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<v Speaker 4>my phone, just not even knowing what happened in my family.

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<v Speaker 4>They could have left, I wouldn't have known. But that's

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<v Speaker 4>how you know, that's how insane I And then of

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<v Speaker 4>course the heartbreaker in the championship game against Oklahoma. That

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<v Speaker 4>was tough to lose, a game that was right there

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<v Speaker 4>and it would have been awesome to get another real

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<v Speaker 4>good win. So I forgot what it's like to be

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<v Speaker 4>crazy about Louisville basketball. You know when your team has life,

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<v Speaker 4>and Louisville certainly has life. So I am excited about tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>But about twenty minutes ago, we got some tough news

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<v Speaker 4>that really isn't that surprising. I think it started to

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<v Speaker 4>look like this was going to be the case. But

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<v Speaker 4>Coorin Johnson, the transfer from Washington, only played in two

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<v Speaker 4>games this year for Louisville.

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<v Speaker 3>He is out for the rest of the season.

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<v Speaker 4>He's gonna have shoulder surgery, which means he's out for

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<v Speaker 4>the year, going a red shirt. No clue what he'll

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<v Speaker 4>do with the year of eligibility he'll have after red shirting.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, this is a guy that was one

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<v Speaker 4>of the more I mean you now have with Case

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<v Speaker 4>and Pryor after the year with the torn acl We

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<v Speaker 4>found that out yesterday Coorin Johnson confirming that he did

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<v Speaker 4>see a specialist, and I guess he got a second opinion,

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<v Speaker 4>and I guess both opinions were that he needs to

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<v Speaker 4>shut it down on and get and get surgery. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>you've lost two of the most talented guys that you

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<v Speaker 4>brought in the portal. This is not in any way

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<v Speaker 4>ideal for Louisville basketball. I mean, it's just not. But

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<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm surprised, kind of irritated, and dare I say motivated,

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<v Speaker 4>because I mean, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna tell

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<v Speaker 4>anybody that this doesn't change sort of how we look

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<v Speaker 4>at the rest of the season.

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<v Speaker 3>This changes a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Ceiling not as high for this team without Case and

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<v Speaker 4>Pryor and also with Koran Johnson. But I think people

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<v Speaker 4>forget Karan Johnson didn't play in the Bahamas.

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<v Speaker 3>He'd be great to have.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you want him, your your ceiling is not

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<v Speaker 4>as high without him, But I mean you saw this

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<v Speaker 4>team play pretty good without him. Now Case and Price

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<v Speaker 4>is a little bit different. I think you can do

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<v Speaker 4>some things to maybe lighten the uh the trying to

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<v Speaker 4>think of the right way to describe it, because you

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<v Speaker 4>really can't ask anybody, even collectively to kind of give

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<v Speaker 4>you what he gave you. And I don't mean just

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<v Speaker 4>because you know, because of his production, because of his numbers,

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<v Speaker 4>because his numbers really weren't that crazy. But he's just

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<v Speaker 4>a very very rare player athletics six foot ten. Don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if he can shoot it but he does like

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<v Speaker 4>to shoot it and makes it occasionally, but still a

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<v Speaker 4>good athlete got a good handle, can really, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>cause some mismatch problems. And I think you can change

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<v Speaker 4>some things as far as what you're doing in the

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<v Speaker 4>half court to maybe he doesn't seem as missed, but

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if Pat Kelsey's going to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>So again, you know, this stinks, But I'm surprised by

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<v Speaker 4>the amount of Louisville fans that act like we should

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<v Speaker 4>just cancel the season now. I mean, why would just

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<v Speaker 4>shut it down and just plan for next year? And

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<v Speaker 4>it's not like it's the entire fan base. But like

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<v Speaker 4>I put out that, I still think Louisville has the

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<v Speaker 4>pieces to put together a season where you could find

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<v Speaker 4>yourself appearing in the NCAA Tournament and you would have thought,

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<v Speaker 4>I said Louisville was going to go beat the Chicago

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<v Speaker 4>Bulls in ninety seven. I mean, like, I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>that that's that crazy to say. You realized they put

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<v Speaker 4>sixty eight teams in the tournament, guys, right, and there's

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<v Speaker 4>teams that make it every year that you know aren't

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<v Speaker 4>very good. Maybe we've just had maybe because we haven't

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<v Speaker 4>been involved in Selections Sunday in a long time. We

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<v Speaker 4>have not been relevant enough as a program to even

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<v Speaker 4>really need to tune in on Selection Sunday since what

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<v Speaker 4>two thousand and gosh was it twenty nineteen? I guess

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<v Speaker 4>it was twenty twenty one whenever they were the first

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<v Speaker 4>team left out. But there are a lot of teams

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<v Speaker 4>that you wouldn't claim are good or you know, dangerous

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<v Speaker 4>or elite by any means that end up getting in

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<v Speaker 4>the tournament. So you know, if they don't make it,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to be totally stunned, but like, this

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<v Speaker 4>is a this is less than ideal.

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<v Speaker 1>But I.

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<v Speaker 4>Still think that this team can win some games. I

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<v Speaker 4>still think they can win tonight. They're still favored in

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<v Speaker 4>tonight's game, and they were opening line faces whenever Buddy

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<v Speaker 4>knew that Cason Pryor wasn't gonna play. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 4>that that means they're gonna win, because obviously Louisville's been

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<v Speaker 4>favorite in games they've lost and vice versa, Like it

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't always work out that way, But in a weird way,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm kind of like, well, I hope they win tonight

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<v Speaker 4>so I can go dunk on people who are acting

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<v Speaker 4>like it's insane to think that this team could still

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<v Speaker 4>be any good.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyways, welcome inn.

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<v Speaker 4>It is Coffee and Company, and again we are fiel

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<v Speaker 4>Abou Thorton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety Nick Coffee

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<v Speaker 4>with you, Austin Montgomery alongside. I mean again, you know

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<v Speaker 4>that it's not it's not good news to have these

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<v Speaker 4>guys out for the entire season, But like, do you

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<v Speaker 4>think And again, if you if you totally disagree, then

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<v Speaker 4>tell me I'm not. I'm not setting you up here

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<v Speaker 4>to just say, yeah, Nick, you're right, I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 4>I want you to shoot me straight, like, do you

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<v Speaker 4>still think this team could be a tournament team with.

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<v Speaker 3>With what they have? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 4>I do?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and you mean that right, yes, yes, because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not just agreeing with you, I actually actually do them.

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<v Speaker 2>When we were talking about the Cayson prior injury, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that there were a lot of people over the

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<v Speaker 2>weekend that were just I wouldn't say ready to cast

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<v Speaker 2>him off, but they were a little bit angry about

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<v Speaker 2>the shot selection and how he's kind of playing outside

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<v Speaker 2>as means I get it that he can knock a

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<v Speaker 2>few down from out there, but it seemed like Kayson

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<v Speaker 2>Prior was always offensively floating around the perimeter mark where

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<v Speaker 2>he shouldn't have been. I don't think that there's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be a lot of lost sleep over him offensively. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>of course it helps when he gives you those kind

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<v Speaker 2>of plays where he's rim running behind like a guard

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<v Speaker 2>coming down there. But he is really, really, really a

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<v Speaker 2>big loss on more of the defensive end.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'd be more.

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<v Speaker 4>Just a athlete with link. Yeah, and you don't really

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<v Speaker 4>have anybody that you can just automatically. Now, I do

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<v Speaker 4>think when it comes to defense, rebounding athleticism, that's where

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<v Speaker 4>when you get Trey ore back, he can help you

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<v Speaker 4>in that role. Now, yes, he's not going to be

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<v Speaker 4>a guy that can score much for you. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>but Cason Pryor again for the amount of shots that

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<v Speaker 3>Pull up his numbers here.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is where I kind of tried to tiptoe

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<v Speaker 4>around it yesterday because I don't want to. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want it to I don't I don't want to act

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<v Speaker 4>like I'm saying this guy's not any good and Louis

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<v Speaker 4>is going to be fine without him. So I'm trying

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<v Speaker 4>to find that middle ground, that balance, because you know

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<v Speaker 4>he'll be missed. Louisville will be a much better team

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<v Speaker 4>if they had him. Same thing with Caseon, but same

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<v Speaker 4>thing with with Korn Johnson. But Corn Johnson's only playing

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<v Speaker 4>two games. Yeh.

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<v Speaker 2>When he played against Tennessee, he scored two points, so

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<v Speaker 2>almost out a sight out of mind. And I had

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<v Speaker 2>to say that for the young man.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, and with Prior it's a little bit different,

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<v Speaker 4>there's no doubt about it. But when you look at

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<v Speaker 4>his you know, his numbers, I mean, I think his

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<v Speaker 4>shooting percentages. I'm waiting for my internet to load here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean he's shooting on the season. Case in Prior,

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<v Speaker 4>he's shooting fifteen percent from three thirty six percent from

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<v Speaker 4>the field. And you know, again, so his production, I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like it's not crazy at all to think that

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<v Speaker 4>you could make that up. You may have to do

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<v Speaker 4>some different things to get the twelve points the game

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<v Speaker 4>that he was getting, but were you really again, the

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<v Speaker 4>ceiling is not as high, and you've lost a long

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<v Speaker 4>athlete who is a little bit different than not only

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<v Speaker 4>most of the guys on your team, but a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of the guys you're going to play just because you know.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what makes case In a very intriguing player. One,

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<v Speaker 4>he has some real ability about him. But he's a

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<v Speaker 4>six ' ten guy that really is not in any

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<v Speaker 4>way a post player. And you know when he ends

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<v Speaker 4>up being defended by post players and he can take

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<v Speaker 4>advantage of that. I mean, what I would say about

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<v Speaker 4>case and pryor other than just having you know, good

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<v Speaker 4>size and athleticism that makes him a dangerous player. He's

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<v Speaker 4>a really good ball handler for a guy that's six ten,

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<v Speaker 4>so and you're not going to get that without him.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, there's nobody fall off the court sometimes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So again I'm trying to find the middle ground

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<v Speaker 4>to where I can acknowledge that, yes, this is less

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<v Speaker 4>than ideal, this changes things, But like you still have

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<v Speaker 3>Like maybe just maybe rain.

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<v Speaker 4>Smith kind of falls off slightly, but you know, he's

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<v Speaker 4>scoring thirteen a game. Chucky heapburns up to about fifteen

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<v Speaker 4>a game. So you know, if you lost Chucky Hepburn,

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<v Speaker 4>especially with Korn not coming back at all. But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he was already playing a lot of minutes. And for

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<v Speaker 4>those saying, well did you see how ghast he was, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you played three games in three days, one that went

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's not normal.

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<v Speaker 4>So, you know, rarely am I the guy providing optimism

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<v Speaker 4>miserable human being. And I guess maybe it can appear

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<v Speaker 4>like that at times. But look, we've been dead as

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<v Speaker 4>that I know all of you listening that are, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like me, obsessed with Wolves of Basketball. You care about

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<v Speaker 4>it more than you probably should. You just can't shake it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just part of us. You were experiencing things last

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<v Speaker 4>week that you haven't experienced in a long time, and

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 4>I know they could lose a couple more players, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna be enjoying watching a competitive team that is

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<v Speaker 4>that you know, isn't what we had the last few years.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, if you disagree, you think I'm pumping

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<v Speaker 4>sunshine and you know, leading the pep rally trying to

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<v Speaker 4>you know, be a cheerleader, then that's fine. I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>you know, nobody would ever act like, oh, no big deal,

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<v Speaker 4>who cares, but just this, oh my god, we might

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<v Speaker 4>as well just like Pat Kelsey should just let his

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<v Speaker 4>assistance coach the rest of the season, and he's going

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<v Speaker 4>to go out recruiting players, Like, why don't we sack

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<v Speaker 4>up and have some life about it? I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 4>almost like people don't even watch the Bahamas. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>you played three good teams and you beat two of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, and you and you came away from the

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<v Speaker 2>I know you couldn't capitalize off of that last win.

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<v Speaker 2>But it feels like ever since going up to the Bahamas,

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<v Speaker 2>after getting spanked by Tennessee and after kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>couple home games or we're really trying to find our.

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<v Speaker 3>Identity, those were such a waste, weren't they.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you, it's anything, and they seem like forever ago,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like you and c.

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<v Speaker 4>It was went through up Inwenllerman, Yes, and he took

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<v Speaker 4>care of business. But it just felt like they were

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<v Speaker 4>ready to get those games over so they could go

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<v Speaker 4>see where they stand whenever they play real teams again.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know about you guys, I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>they did pretty well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they did too, and I feel like they

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<v Speaker 2>found their identity on offense. They walked away with understanding,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't need to just kind of like search the

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<v Speaker 2>perimeter for these shots, because that's what we did in

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<v Speaker 2>the first shot at the Bahamas and over the summer,

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<v Speaker 2>even you came out and said it, this team might

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's not gonna be every game they might

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<v Speaker 2>break this single game record because they could have had

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<v Speaker 2>the single game record that they called those actual games

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<v Speaker 2>when they played the Baja Mar team.

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<v Speaker 4>Same thing in their first exhibition game as well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>when they played who was it that team that was

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<v Speaker 4>Young Harris or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, young Harris. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, like I think against West Virginia and

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<v Speaker 4>maybe that'll end up not looking like some big win.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, it's early, but I was impressed because

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<v Speaker 4>they won a game that was not in any way

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<v Speaker 4>played the way they want to play. They were able

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<v Speaker 4>to win a different way, and they were able to

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<v Speaker 4>rely on Chucky. Hepburn to go create some magic in

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<v Speaker 4>the half court, and you know, he had a game

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<v Speaker 4>where it's gonna be tough for him to maybe ever

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<v Speaker 4>reproduce that. But I don't think he needs to be

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<v Speaker 4>that guy every night. So you know, what I really

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<v Speaker 4>want to see, and I don't don't have a clue

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<v Speaker 4>what to expect, is will we see some adjustments to

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<v Speaker 4>the identity now that you don't have a case in prior?

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<v Speaker 4>And I would say the same thing about Corn Johnson,

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<v Speaker 4>but they've been doing the same thing without him, meaning

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<v Speaker 4>same style. And I'm not asking Pat Kelsey to change

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<v Speaker 4>his philosophy and change what he does. But I do

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<v Speaker 4>think that you're not as good in the half You're

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<v Speaker 4>not as good at running without prior.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you're just not. That's where he.

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<v Speaker 4>Could really like he could get the ball up the

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<v Speaker 4>court and beat other guys at his size and go

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<v Speaker 4>dunk on somebody Like that's just where you're you're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>miss that. So I don't want you to pound the

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<v Speaker 4>air out of the ball and play in the half court.

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<v Speaker 4>But I do think more sets in the half court

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<v Speaker 4>to one get Chucky in space to where he can

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<v Speaker 4>either make a play on his own or create for somebody.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you can need to run some action to

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<v Speaker 4>get nowhere Waterman some clean looks. So you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know if we'll see that tonight, because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they found out yesterday about casein, so they had a

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<v Speaker 4>day to prepare. So my guess is they're gonna they're

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<v Speaker 4>going about this thing is, hey, next man up. We're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna continue to do what we do and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be who we are and somebody goes down, we got

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<v Speaker 4>a guy on the bench that's gonna have to step

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<v Speaker 4>up and play. And you know, maybe that works out.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll have we'll have to see. But tonight they've got

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<v Speaker 4>a big opportunity. And I think despite the bad news

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<v Speaker 4>that you got yesterday and today, this team can still

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<v Speaker 4>go win and it would be a big time win.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't know if there's gonna be many

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<v Speaker 4>wins for the ACC and this ACC SEC challenge, but

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<v Speaker 4>Louisville is favored tonight and I'm hoping that there's a good,

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<v Speaker 4>lively crowd there and uh, you know, they're drunk. It's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be late nine o'clock tip, and uh be nice,

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<v Speaker 4>be nice to get a win here because you know

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<v Speaker 4>there's value, right. These are games that if you lose,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's not it's not the end of the world.

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<v Speaker 4>You're losing to a ranked team, but you are at home,

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<v Speaker 4>and a win here by the end of the season

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<v Speaker 4>will probably end up looking like a really valuable win

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<v Speaker 4>for you, because I would imagine Ole Miss will end

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<v Speaker 4>up being a pretty good team and they'll probably end

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<v Speaker 4>up being, you know, a decent seed in the tournament. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>beating them at home won't give you as much value,

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<v Speaker 4>but still there's there's some value there. So we'll continue

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<v Speaker 4>you to talk hoops as we get set for tonight's

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<v Speaker 4>matchup Louisville and Ole Miss. Some other things we need

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<v Speaker 4>to get into today. When it comes to the ACC

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<v Speaker 4>SEC Challenge, people are in denial about the league and

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what it is. I'm gonna talk about

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<v Speaker 4>coming up here in about ten minutes when we get

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<v Speaker 4>back from our first break, But the evidence is right

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<v Speaker 4>in front of you. I don't even have to pull

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<v Speaker 4>the numbers, but I did. The ACC is a basketball

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<v Speaker 4>league in the last ten years has become a shell

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<v Speaker 4>of itself. And there are people that like, I know

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<v Speaker 4>that like cover and I don't mean like I know

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<v Speaker 4>the minute's a big deal, but like people whose opinion

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<v Speaker 4>I respect when it comes to basketball, that will look

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<v Speaker 4>at what is right in front of our face and

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<v Speaker 4>act like it's not the case. Like they'll tell you

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<v Speaker 4>that the ACC is just fine. And I don't mean

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<v Speaker 4>part of me says, you know, hey, Louisvill can take

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<v Speaker 4>advantage of it and win a bunch of games and

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<v Speaker 4>maybe win the league moving forward and great. But I,

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<v Speaker 4>as someone who is a Louisville fan my whole life,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm thirty six, I never really felt like Louisville.

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<v Speaker 3>I never I could never get.

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<v Speaker 4>Into the conference pride. Louisville was in a bunch of

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<v Speaker 4>different leagues growing up. They were into in a football

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<v Speaker 4>for a chunk of my childhood. But when Louisvill got

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<v Speaker 4>in the Big Eastern Basketball, I felt like, Okay, this

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<v Speaker 4>is awesome. We are a part of an elite league

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<v Speaker 4>that nobody can claim is not the best college basketball

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<v Speaker 4>conference and it's not close. Well, then you go to

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<v Speaker 4>the ACC and it gets you, know, you feel like

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<v Speaker 4>it's getting even better. And now I don't know if

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<v Speaker 4>you play in a league that is the I mean

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<v Speaker 4>of the Power four, is it the fourth best league

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<v Speaker 4>or the Power five? I should say it's it's probably

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<v Speaker 4>fourth at best. And you know that makes me sad.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I can't do anything about it. I can't

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<v Speaker 4>change it. But anytime I bring up the fact that, like, man,

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<v Speaker 4>what happened to the ACC? Why is nobody talking about it?

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<v Speaker 4>I get? I get you know those that are in denial,

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<v Speaker 4>telling me what are you talking about? NC State went

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<v Speaker 4>did the Final four? Okay, pull whatever singular data point

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<v Speaker 4>you want to convince yourself whatever you want, but the

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<v Speaker 4>ACC is nowhere near what it once was in hoops

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<v Speaker 4>and the numbers that I have to back that up

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<v Speaker 4>will probably floor you unless you're somebody that you know

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<v Speaker 4>is living on planet Earth and realizing what we're watching here. Also,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll get into some louisvill football stuff, but I will

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<v Speaker 4>go ahead and share the news for those of you

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<v Speaker 4>that might have missed it earlier today, Colin Lacy confirming

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<v Speaker 4>he will be back for Louisville.

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<v Speaker 3>Not only is that huge, I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a guy that you know, I kind of feel

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<v Speaker 4>like you already won in the portal here because he's

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<v Speaker 4>a guy that if he does hit the portal, everybody's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna want him.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was already here. But him, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 4>I guess things can change, but him deciding to come

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<v Speaker 4>back to Louisville is huge because it's not only a

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<v Speaker 4>weapon that you're gonna be able to really utilize at

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<v Speaker 4>full strength because he will be fully healthy, but it

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<v Speaker 4>will probably help Jeff Brom go get a quarterback, right.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say a quarterback would love to one play

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<v Speaker 4>for Jeff Brom calling the plays, but also have a

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<v Speaker 4>weapon like Colin Lacy out there, who really started to

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<v Speaker 4>shine once he got healthy and then of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>decided to hang it up and then at some point

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<v Speaker 4>I do want to get to Jamis Winston last night,

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<v Speaker 4>who I think Jamis Winston, you know, go back to

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<v Speaker 4>Florida State, stealing crab legs and just being, you know, a.

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<v Speaker 3>Character, and he still has a character.

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<v Speaker 4>But Jamis Winston, I feel like he's kind of low key,

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<v Speaker 4>unexpectedly turned into one of the most intriguing professional athletes

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<v Speaker 3>And you know he really has.

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<v Speaker 4>When I say that, some people are probably like, what

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<v Speaker 4>that gets to play because Deshaun Watson is you know

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<v Speaker 4>Deshaun Watson, And yeah, I'm talking about when he gets

424
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<v Speaker 4>in front I don't care about football, although he did

425
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<v Speaker 4>have a wild game last night, but when he gets

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<v Speaker 4>in front of a camera or a microphone.

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<v Speaker 3>You you want to hear it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're you know, you may not really know what

429
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<v Speaker 4>he's saying, and you may not believe it. You may think,

430
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<v Speaker 4>what the hell is this guy on? But like I

431
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<v Speaker 4>need more of Jameis Winston and it's certainly entertaining, It's

432
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<v Speaker 4>absolutely it. Look, this is all about entertainment, right, A

433
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<v Speaker 4>pro wrestling factor exactly. That's what he should already have

434
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<v Speaker 4>a contract with the WW that states when he's done

435
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<v Speaker 4>playing football, he's going to be on the mic. I

436
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<v Speaker 4>don't know if he can wrestle, but he's an NFL player.

437
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<v Speaker 4>I'd say you could probably turn him into a wrestler

438
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<v Speaker 4>if you wanted to do it something for him. Pat

439
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<v Speaker 4>McAfee is on WW. Yeah, well, and you know, I'm

440
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<v Speaker 4>just thinking about him being the Preacher character with the

441
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<v Speaker 4>a WWE storyline, and like it would be Golden. Yeah,

442
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<v Speaker 4>you know, kind of like, who is it Brady who

443
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<v Speaker 4>already had the deal in place to go be a

444
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<v Speaker 4>broadcaster while he was still playing quarterback in the NFL

445
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<v Speaker 4>is Hunter running ww Still, Yes he's now there because

446
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<v Speaker 4>Vince has gone right. Yes, Yes, Triple H needs to

447
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<v Speaker 4>get that done because psy it would be worth every

448
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<v Speaker 4>penny to make that happen. I think also tonight we're

449
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<v Speaker 4>gonna get the we're gonna get the updated college football

450
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<v Speaker 4>playoff rankings, and I get coaches lobbying for themselves at

451
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<v Speaker 4>this point, I get it. I would probably do the

452
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<v Speaker 4>same thing, but it's become so annoying. And there's one

453
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<v Speaker 4>thing that all of them are saying, those that you

454
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<v Speaker 4>know are on the outside looking in, but you know,

455
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<v Speaker 4>I guess holding out hope that they might get a break.

456
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<v Speaker 4>There's one thing that they all say that I think

457
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<v Speaker 4>is the direct evidence that they know they're not worthy.

458
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<v Speaker 4>They're just trying to, you know, disguise it. And with Kentucky,

459
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<v Speaker 4>they've got Clemson tonight, which I don't think Clemson is

460
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<v Speaker 4>going to challenge them, to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Honest with you.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope they do, hope they beat them, but don't

463
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<v Speaker 4>see that happening, but Mark Stoop's another day where another

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<v Speaker 4>piece negative news and other offensive staff are moving on

465
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<v Speaker 4>because you know, that's just how things are going for

466
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<v Speaker 4>Mark Stoops right now. So we are loaded the rest

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<v Speaker 4>of the way. We're gonna be joined by cl Brown

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<v Speaker 4>of the Courier Journal coming up at four h five,

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<v Speaker 4>So stick around. We'll take you up till six o'clock.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Nick Coffee. He's Austin Montgomery, and this is Coffee

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it's I don't know if it's considered a win,

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<v Speaker 4>but I was able to benefit from the Frequency Club

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<v Speaker 4>when you're a member of the Refreshing Awards program every

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<v Speaker 4>I got a free one. I mean it was like

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<v Speaker 4>So it's just a really irresponsible decision not to be

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<v Speaker 4>a member of the Refreshing Awards program at Thornton's. That's

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<v Speaker 4>just my opinion, but it's the truth, if I'm being

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<v Speaker 4>honest with you, all right, Nick, Coffee with you, Austin

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<v Speaker 4>Montgomery alongside today, Let's go to the text line five

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<v Speaker 4>I can't be the only one a little sour about

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<v Speaker 4>Colin Lacy as far as how he handled the season,

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<v Speaker 4>not sure we would want him back.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's a new ballgame.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to get into the whole conversation that

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<v Speaker 4>we had around the time that he decided to opt out,

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<v Speaker 4>because that's what he did, and it's still technically bailing

512
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<v Speaker 4>on your team, and it's still viewed as like he quit,

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<v Speaker 4>and people who say that they're not they're not lying.

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<v Speaker 3>They're telling the truth.

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<v Speaker 4>But I would encourage you to just understand that now,

516
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<v Speaker 4>this is a job, and anybody that has a job,

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<v Speaker 4>they're going to look out for themselves, right, I mean

518
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<v Speaker 4>they're going to do everything possible to make the absolute

519
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<v Speaker 4>best of the situation for themselves. This isn't like a

520
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<v Speaker 4>job to us, right, we don't view it that way,

521
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<v Speaker 4>but it is to them. So Colin Lacey, you know,

522
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<v Speaker 4>he wasn't playing earlier in the year, got healthy the

523
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<v Speaker 4>season as far as the big accomplishments, the big goals

524
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<v Speaker 4>had kind of faded because of the early losses, and

525
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<v Speaker 4>I was told he was never really healthy when he

526
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<v Speaker 4>came back. I mean, he was healthy enough to play,

527
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<v Speaker 4>but like he was still kind of getting trying to

528
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<v Speaker 4>get back to one hundred percent.

529
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<v Speaker 3>So he made a decision that said you.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, Look, I can go ahead and opt out because

531
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<v Speaker 4>I didn't play in the first few games. I've now

532
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<v Speaker 4>played in four, and I could ride it out. And look,

533
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<v Speaker 4>if he would have stuck around and played and finished strong,

534
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<v Speaker 4>nobody would have said a word. But when he does

535
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<v Speaker 4>take advantage of the situation for himself, which anybody listening

536
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<v Speaker 4>to this would do the same thing. I don't mean

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<v Speaker 4>that you would do that because you don't know a

538
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<v Speaker 4>lot of us didn't play college football. Not a lot

539
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<v Speaker 4>of us have been in that position to where we

540
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<v Speaker 4>would know what we would do. But just think about

541
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<v Speaker 4>your job, how you make a living, how you provide

542
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<v Speaker 4>for yourself and your family. You take advantage of every

543
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<v Speaker 4>little thing you could to make the most of it

544
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<v Speaker 4>to benefit yourself. It's not really selfish if you think

545
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<v Speaker 4>about it. I mean, I get why people view it

546
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<v Speaker 4>that way, but again, I would just encourage you to

547
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<v Speaker 4>understand it's a new world now, and his decision, I

548
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<v Speaker 4>mean it's gonna be I mean, Louisvill's now gonna have

549
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<v Speaker 4>him for another year, and he's a really, really good player.

550
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<v Speaker 4>We never even got the full coldin Lacy experience because

551
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<v Speaker 4>he wasn't fully healthy when he was playing and he

552
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<v Speaker 4>missed the first what four games of the season, So like,

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<v Speaker 4>I understand why people view it that way, but this

554
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<v Speaker 4>is this is just how it is now and maybe

555
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<v Speaker 4>you'll never get used to it. And if and if

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<v Speaker 4>that's the case, then you know, do you But I

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<v Speaker 4>just I think if you for a second tried to,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, consider the fact that this is a job,

559
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<v Speaker 4>just like you have a job, and if you're going

560
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<v Speaker 4>to try to do something that is more beneficial for

561
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<v Speaker 4>you and maybe not as beneficial for your employer at

562
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<v Speaker 4>that time, like that's normal people would look at you

563
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<v Speaker 4>like a fool if you had a chance to do

564
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<v Speaker 4>something like a loophole to benefit yourself. But like again,

565
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<v Speaker 4>it's still you know, it's gonna be a little while,

566
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<v Speaker 4>I think before people truly realize that this is a job.

567
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<v Speaker 4>To these guys now, and they're they're not here because

568
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<v Speaker 4>they grew up rooting for the team like we did.

569
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<v Speaker 4>They're here because they are trying to individually improve theirselves.

570
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm sure they like being a part of

571
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<v Speaker 4>a team and they want to win their competitors. That's

572
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<v Speaker 4>probably one of the reasons why they're playing at this level.

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<v Speaker 4>But at the end of the day, this is now job.

574
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<v Speaker 4>So I'm not surprised at all. We had somebody text

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<v Speaker 4>in and say that, all right, so if you are

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<v Speaker 4>just not joining us the bummer news today. On the

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<v Speaker 4>basketball side, Corn Johnson is out for the year, gonna

578
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<v Speaker 4>have shoulder surgery. He did get a second opinion, and

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<v Speaker 4>I guess both opinions were the same, and that is

580
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<v Speaker 4>that you need to go ahead and call it a

581
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<v Speaker 4>season and get surgery and get better. So I don't

582
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<v Speaker 4>want to minimize, you know, anything about Koran because he's

583
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<v Speaker 4>a good player, he's raining. I guess maybe he's the

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<v Speaker 4>last ever because the PAC twelve's dead, right, he's the

585
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<v Speaker 4>last ever PAC twelve six Man of the Year, and

586
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<v Speaker 4>he's a shooter. He gives you more options at guard

587
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<v Speaker 4>like you need him, but you were able to get

588
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<v Speaker 4>by without him, and I would hope that you know,

589
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<v Speaker 4>there's gonna be some certain guys. That's in fact, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna ask Seal Brown this when we bring him in

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<v Speaker 4>at RO five. You know, I'm sure the easy answer

592
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<v Speaker 4>and I'm sure Cel will give me a good answer.

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<v Speaker 4>The easy answer is everybody's got to step up with

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<v Speaker 4>the absence of prior and of course now knowing that

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<v Speaker 4>you're not getting Corn Johnson.

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<v Speaker 3>Back, but I'm gonna ask him if there's one guy or.

597
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<v Speaker 4>Maybe two who are maybe gonna be really crucial to

598
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<v Speaker 4>Louisville being able to still have a successful season where

599
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<v Speaker 4>maybe they get into the tournament despite these injuries. So

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<v Speaker 4>we can get into that a little bit later on.

601
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<v Speaker 4>But as we just reference there as I was reading

602
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<v Speaker 4>that text, the good news on the football side is

603
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<v Speaker 4>that you are getting Colin Lacy back, and that's that's massive.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I feel like when it comes to playmakers,

605
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<v Speaker 4>you know you have.

606
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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know. This is this is.

607
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<v Speaker 4>Another new element to how we fans as college football

608
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<v Speaker 4>and college basketball fans, because you just know guys can

609
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<v Speaker 4>leave whenever they want after any season, without any penalty,

610
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<v Speaker 4>without any I mean, it's not crazy that just nobody

611
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<v Speaker 4>giving any sign, nobody's saying anything.

612
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<v Speaker 3>You just wondering are they going to be back?

613
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<v Speaker 4>Right. It's kind of like whenever guys would announce they

614
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<v Speaker 4>were coming back to the or they were coming back

615
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<v Speaker 4>to school and not going to the NBA, and eighty

616
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<v Speaker 4>percent of the people that would put up those graphics

617
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<v Speaker 4>on Twitter, you would think to yourself, Oh, no surprise here,

618
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<v Speaker 4>we knew the NBA didn't want you, Like it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Such an embarrassing thing for some of these guys. They

620
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<v Speaker 3>would do that. They're announced, they're coming back. Where were

621
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<v Speaker 3>you going? Well, now it's a new world.

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<v Speaker 4>You can go wherever you want, not the NBA, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>unless if you're good enough you can so Nope, Like

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<v Speaker 4>Isaac Brown hasn't said anything, but like we know, if

625
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<v Speaker 4>there's one guy that you're gonna have to potentially worry

626
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<v Speaker 4>about somebody doing some tampering and trying to get him

627
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<v Speaker 4>away from here, it's Isaac Brown, Duke Watson as well.

628
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<v Speaker 4>But Duke Watson did say last night on a social

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<v Speaker 4>media I'm an old man now, I feel like because

630
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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I mean, I think I don't know

631
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<v Speaker 4>if it was a TikTok live or something Instagram.

632
00:27:55.960 --> 00:27:57.680
<v Speaker 3>I feel like Nick Saban what did he call it?

633
00:27:58.359 --> 00:27:59.000
<v Speaker 3>Insta chat?

634
00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:03.160
<v Speaker 4>And there's an old clip of not Nick Saban, I'm sorry,

635
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:05.799
<v Speaker 4>it was Bill Belichick on some press conference many years

636
00:28:05.839 --> 00:28:08.680
<v Speaker 4>ago when she was trying to reference the social media platforms.

637
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:10.839
<v Speaker 4>I feel like that right now because I know what

638
00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:12.519
<v Speaker 4>they are, but I don't know if he was live

639
00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:14.720
<v Speaker 4>on one of them, or if it was I think

640
00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:18.960
<v Speaker 4>he joined somebody's live and somebody screenshotted the screen recorded

641
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:21.480
<v Speaker 4>the video of him saying Louisville fans need to leave

642
00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:24.240
<v Speaker 4>them alone. I'm not going anywhere something like that. So

643
00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:28.400
<v Speaker 4>and by the way, if it's the younger generation that's

644
00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:30.440
<v Speaker 4>got to share what these guys are doing on social media,

645
00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:33.440
<v Speaker 4>then I'll I'm all for it because that is good news.

646
00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:37.160
<v Speaker 4>So what I was getting at is with Lacey back,

647
00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:40.319
<v Speaker 4>and right now, I guess the belief is that both

648
00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:42.200
<v Speaker 4>your star running backs are going to be back, like

649
00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:44.640
<v Speaker 4>you've already got some real offensive firepower to work with.

650
00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:47.279
<v Speaker 4>And we'll get into it a little bit later on,

651
00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:49.079
<v Speaker 4>maybe even later in the week, because we've got a

652
00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:50.759
<v Speaker 4>lot to get to today. But there are a lot

653
00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:53.359
<v Speaker 4>of guys that have announced they're leaving Louisville. But for

654
00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:55.960
<v Speaker 4>the most part, it's not really anybody that you relied

655
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:58.680
<v Speaker 4>on much this year. And maybe one day we'll get

656
00:28:58.680 --> 00:29:02.079
<v Speaker 4>comfortable doing this. But I wish those guys well, I

657
00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:04.480
<v Speaker 4>hope they had a great experience here. But it's never

658
00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:07.079
<v Speaker 4>gonna let me ask you this, Austin, it's never going

659
00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:12.720
<v Speaker 4>to in any way not sound rude when you're like, oh,

660
00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:14.319
<v Speaker 4>that guy's leaving, see you later.

661
00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:15.480
<v Speaker 3>Who gives a damn? You know what I mean?

662
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:17.119
<v Speaker 4>Like, I don't want to say that, but like that's

663
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:19.160
<v Speaker 4>kind of gonna be the reaction because the majority of

664
00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:21.920
<v Speaker 4>guys who enter the portal are entering the portal because

665
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:24.519
<v Speaker 4>they're not playing where they are. Yeah, I mean, like

666
00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:26.519
<v Speaker 4>it's just gonna sound like be being a jerk. But

667
00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:28.200
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to be a jerk. But you know,

668
00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:31.039
<v Speaker 4>for example, like Maurice Turner, wish the young man well

669
00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:32.039
<v Speaker 4>saw that he was leaving.

670
00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:33.200
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't surprised.

671
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:35.039
<v Speaker 4>He's a running back who has been here a long

672
00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:36.839
<v Speaker 4>time and he got passed up by two true freshmen.

673
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:39.279
<v Speaker 2>And you kind of said the same part last week

674
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:42.240
<v Speaker 2>when Louisville lost out on that local recruit. Who when

675
00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:43.960
<v Speaker 2>you when you turned around and said, well, I mean

676
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:44.960
<v Speaker 2>look what he was coming for.

677
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:45.839
<v Speaker 3>He was running back.

678
00:29:46.039 --> 00:29:47.960
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, the running back who he committed. Yeah, it

679
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:48.880
<v Speaker 4>makes total sense.

680
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:51.599
<v Speaker 2>Right, and question the kid you're like to hell with

681
00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:55.240
<v Speaker 2>on me or be like, okay, it looks like they're

682
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:57.359
<v Speaker 2>more or less sitting pretty at that running back position,

683
00:29:57.400 --> 00:29:59.279
<v Speaker 2>So I guess it's all kind of how'd you say,

684
00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:02.640
<v Speaker 2>it's all kind of of situational.

685
00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:05.640
<v Speaker 4>And who returns and and one guy that did leave,

686
00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:08.920
<v Speaker 4>Ben Perry. He was here for a while. Yeah, and

687
00:30:09.160 --> 00:30:11.359
<v Speaker 4>he entered the portal last year and then pulled his

688
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:13.240
<v Speaker 4>name out. I believe it might have been two years ago.

689
00:30:13.680 --> 00:30:17.359
<v Speaker 4>And solid player, but you know kind of like, who's

690
00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:19.440
<v Speaker 4>the guy who had that pick six against Central Florida

691
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:21.839
<v Speaker 4>who ended up transferring to Miami. He's gonna drive me crazy.

692
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:24.200
<v Speaker 4>It's not even not even important, not to say he's

693
00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:24.720
<v Speaker 4>not important.

694
00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:26.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, you know what I'm talking about.

695
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:28.519
<v Speaker 4>Right, Yeah, Like he was really just known for that play,

696
00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:30.400
<v Speaker 4>and he would have given you some good linebacker depth

697
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:31.720
<v Speaker 4>this year, no doubt. But you know what, he hit

698
00:30:31.759 --> 00:30:34.799
<v Speaker 4>the portal because he realized, I'm now behind stan Kuan

699
00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:37.480
<v Speaker 4>Clark who passed me up, and I'm going to go elsewhere.

700
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:40.720
<v Speaker 4>So you know that's somebody that is is in Mary

701
00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:43.240
<v Speaker 4>Huggins Bruce who randomly found his way back here. But

702
00:30:43.319 --> 00:30:45.279
<v Speaker 4>Mary Huggins Bruce was the guy last year that like,

703
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:47.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, he's not your best receiver, but he he

704
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:50.160
<v Speaker 4>gave you something to where you didn't want to lose him.

705
00:30:50.359 --> 00:30:52.160
<v Speaker 4>But if you put yourself in his shoes, and he

706
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:53.720
<v Speaker 4>clearly was wrong. He thought the grass was going to

707
00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:55.240
<v Speaker 4>be green or elsewhere, and he couldn't get on the

708
00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:57.400
<v Speaker 4>field at South Carolina. So you know, it's just it's

709
00:30:57.440 --> 00:31:02.079
<v Speaker 4>still it's so much different than what we've all grown

710
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:05.839
<v Speaker 4>up and I mean college sports right now, I think

711
00:31:05.880 --> 00:31:10.039
<v Speaker 4>it's awesome, but like it is so different outside the

712
00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:14.039
<v Speaker 4>lines that how we keep up with it, how we

713
00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:18.200
<v Speaker 4>discuss off season stuff, like, it's just so different, and

714
00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:20.119
<v Speaker 4>it's going to take a while before I think this

715
00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:21.559
<v Speaker 4>feels like the new norm.

716
00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:24.200
<v Speaker 3>Jalen Alderman is a guy that you're thinking, here we

717
00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:26.119
<v Speaker 3>go and I don't know what he was doing.

718
00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:28.920
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what he ended up doing at at Miami,

719
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:33.599
<v Speaker 4>but I think right now, and it's still early in

720
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:35.599
<v Speaker 4>the Jeff Brom era, you're two years in here with

721
00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:40.359
<v Speaker 4>Jeff Brom. I think one Jeff can can sell to

722
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:43.079
<v Speaker 4>guys in the portal, especially on the offensive side of

723
00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:46.839
<v Speaker 4>the ball, that you come here, we will give you

724
00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:51.039
<v Speaker 4>an opportunity to shine and really thrive.

725
00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:52.839
<v Speaker 3>I mean I don't think you could.

726
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:54.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean, go look at all the quarterbacks that were

727
00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:57.319
<v Speaker 4>that were believed to be so much better than Tyler Shuck,

728
00:31:57.400 --> 00:31:59.559
<v Speaker 4>that got a lot more money than Tyler Shuck probably

729
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:02.079
<v Speaker 4>did to go elsewhere that didn't come close to having

730
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:02.960
<v Speaker 4>the season.

731
00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:03.160
<v Speaker 3>That he had.

732
00:32:03.640 --> 00:32:06.319
<v Speaker 4>So I trust Jeff's I when it comes to the

733
00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:09.240
<v Speaker 4>quarterback situation, and I think he can. I mean, if

734
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:10.920
<v Speaker 4>you're a guy in the portal, I think you're gonna

735
00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:13.359
<v Speaker 4>want to get a phone call from Jeff Brohm, especially

736
00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:14.200
<v Speaker 4>if you're a quarterback.

737
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:16.000
<v Speaker 3>So you know that.

738
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:21.039
<v Speaker 4>Looking at Isaac Garinda, who was a second second string

739
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:23.559
<v Speaker 4>running back at Wisconsin, he comes to Louisville and ends

740
00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:25.960
<v Speaker 4>up being the lead ball carrier for Louisville towards the

741
00:32:26.039 --> 00:32:27.440
<v Speaker 4>end of the season. He's still making plays in the

742
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:30.960
<v Speaker 4>NFL right now, Like he went to Louisville and maybe

743
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:32.400
<v Speaker 4>he would have done it elsewhere. Will never know, but

744
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:34.880
<v Speaker 4>I feel like him at Louisville, he really showed what

745
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:36.680
<v Speaker 4>he could do, got him an opportunity in the NFL.

746
00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:40.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean say the same thing about Jacory Brooks. I mean,

747
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:41.519
<v Speaker 4>he was gonna be good wherever he went. But you know,

748
00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:44.400
<v Speaker 4>obviously Jae Cory Brooks is a guy that you know,

749
00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:46.599
<v Speaker 4>was not getting a lot of reps anymore at Alabama,

750
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:48.359
<v Speaker 4>comes to Louisville had a phenomenal season, was one of

751
00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:49.880
<v Speaker 4>the best receivers in the country.

752
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:52.240
<v Speaker 3>So Brom's been able.

753
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:54.319
<v Speaker 4>To show in two years, yeah, you come here and

754
00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:57.160
<v Speaker 4>you can play, You'll have an opportunity to shine and

755
00:32:57.440 --> 00:32:59.880
<v Speaker 4>we'll win some ball games. But he also, right now,

756
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:04.359
<v Speaker 4>I believe has in two years shown that the guys

757
00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:07.440
<v Speaker 4>that you lose, like, there's not many guys they've lost

758
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:10.559
<v Speaker 4>to the Portal that we end up realizing, damn, how

759
00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:13.079
<v Speaker 4>do we let that guy get away? Because again, that's

760
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:15.599
<v Speaker 4>the majority of the guys who leave. And this goes

761
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:18.200
<v Speaker 4>back to the conversation I was just having, like I

762
00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:20.240
<v Speaker 4>don't want to say, hey, I'll help you pack your bags,

763
00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:20.960
<v Speaker 4>get the hell out of here.

764
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:22.440
<v Speaker 3>You bomb, you're not good enough to play.

765
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:24.920
<v Speaker 4>But more often than not, it's dudes that you totally

766
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:27.519
<v Speaker 4>understand why they're leaving because they're not a big part

767
00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:30.000
<v Speaker 4>of it and they probably can get more opportunities elsewhere,

768
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:32.599
<v Speaker 4>and that's what you want. Right You're gonna lose guys

769
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:35.119
<v Speaker 4>to the portal every year. But if it's the majority

770
00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:37.359
<v Speaker 4>of those guys are the dudes who really didn't do

771
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:40.440
<v Speaker 4>a whole lot and didn't get opportunity then that's a

772
00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:43.799
<v Speaker 4>good thing because it's opening up another opportunity for a

773
00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:46.240
<v Speaker 4>scholarship and I owe money, and you can go to

774
00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:48.759
<v Speaker 4>the portal and probably get a guy that's better than him.

775
00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:50.440
<v Speaker 4>Maybe not at the same position, but like you can.

776
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:53.200
<v Speaker 4>Now you know, you lose a linebacker or aligneman, well

777
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:55.599
<v Speaker 4>now you can you can go get you know, a

778
00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:59.480
<v Speaker 4>really good safety in the linebacker and the linemen are leaving.

779
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:01.279
<v Speaker 3>Because they passed up and you're already set.

780
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:03.960
<v Speaker 4>There so a lot of moving parts, but so far,

781
00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:05.960
<v Speaker 4>I think Jeff Brahm has shown that he's one of

782
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:09.519
<v Speaker 4>the coaches that is adapting to this, to this new world.

783
00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:11.440
<v Speaker 4>All right, let's go ahead and get you our second

784
00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:12.679
<v Speaker 4>break here, because I want to come back on the

785
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:14.880
<v Speaker 4>other side and make sure I've got enough time to

786
00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:19.599
<v Speaker 4>get to this ACC SEC stuff, because this could be

787
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:25.400
<v Speaker 4>the biggest lopsided series we've seen between any ACC challenge.

788
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:26.559
<v Speaker 4>And what I mean by that this is just the

789
00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:28.400
<v Speaker 4>second year of the ACC SEC Challenge. You used to

790
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:31.239
<v Speaker 4>be the ACC Big Ten Challenge, But if you look

791
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:34.360
<v Speaker 4>at how poorly the ACC's competed up to this point

792
00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:37.960
<v Speaker 4>with the other power conferences, I mean doesn't mean that

793
00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:39.679
<v Speaker 4>you can't end up having a good season and making

794
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:40.119
<v Speaker 4>the tournament.

795
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:42.559
<v Speaker 3>But like, this is where you get. This is where you.

796
00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:45.119
<v Speaker 4>Make your case that you're good enough to be in

797
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:47.320
<v Speaker 4>the tournament, because once you get like, the ACC has

798
00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:49.000
<v Speaker 4>now lost the benefit of the they've now lost the

799
00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:50.559
<v Speaker 4>benefit of the doubt to beat up on each other

800
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:53.000
<v Speaker 4>in league play and say, well, what are you gonna do? Yeah,

801
00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:54.920
<v Speaker 4>we went five hundred and the ACC. But man, look

802
00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:58.159
<v Speaker 4>at the ACC. This ain't the ACC of old. So

803
00:34:58.199 --> 00:34:59.440
<v Speaker 4>we'll talk about that and a lot more. Keep it

804
00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:00.920
<v Speaker 4>lock right here, don't I get Cel Brown of the

805
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:03.159
<v Speaker 4>Courier Journal coming up here at four h five on

806
00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:07.719
<v Speaker 4>Sports Talk seven ninety.

807
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:11.960
<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Coffee and Company with Nick Coffee on

808
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:13.599
<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven ninety.

809
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:19.320
<v Speaker 4>So I'm looking through FanDuel sportsbook right now at all

810
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:21.920
<v Speaker 4>of these ACC SEC matchups tonight, which, by the way,

811
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:24.159
<v Speaker 4>there's gonna be matchups throughout the week here, but tonight

812
00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:27.159
<v Speaker 4>is night one, and from what I can tell here,

813
00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:30.079
<v Speaker 4>and I'm still scrolling, there's a lot of college basketball

814
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:32.800
<v Speaker 4>games and I'm not able to uh, I'm not able

815
00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:37.239
<v Speaker 4>to change the uh it's not let me filtered by conference.

816
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:39.320
<v Speaker 3>So I'm just trying to. I'm looking at him one

817
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:39.719
<v Speaker 3>by one.

818
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:42.639
<v Speaker 4>I think Louisville, as far as I can tell, Louisville

819
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:47.440
<v Speaker 4>right now is the only ACC team in action tonight

820
00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:51.519
<v Speaker 4>in this ACC SEC challenge that is favored.

821
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:54.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you've got gosh.

822
00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:56.639
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm still looking here to see if I

823
00:35:56.639 --> 00:36:00.960
<v Speaker 4>can find if there's one. Kentucky's close there. They're only

824
00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:03.320
<v Speaker 4>favored by a point and a half over Clemson, which

825
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:06.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm not betting that because you know, gross, but I

826
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:10.840
<v Speaker 4>think Clemson is gonna get beat by at least ten.

827
00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:14.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean not because like Kentucky's scary good, which, by

828
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:15.199
<v Speaker 4>the way, I do think they are good, and they've

829
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:17.119
<v Speaker 4>looked really good so far this year, but like Clemson's

830
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:17.440
<v Speaker 4>not good.

831
00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:17.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

832
00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:22.280
<v Speaker 4>I mean, Clemson doesn't have a great environment for basketball,

833
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:26.679
<v Speaker 4>and they they lost to somebody earlier this year that

834
00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:29.599
<v Speaker 4>was not a quality loss from So maybe I'll be wrong.

835
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:32.360
<v Speaker 4>In fact, I hope I'm wrong, but yeah, let me run.

836
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:32.639
<v Speaker 3>Through it here.

837
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:35.159
<v Speaker 4>You've got Louisville tonight. Let me see if there's been

838
00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:38.679
<v Speaker 4>any movement here because they opened up. I think it

839
00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:40.880
<v Speaker 4>is three point favorites, or maybe it was four points. Yeah,

840
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:42.239
<v Speaker 4>it was four points. Now it's down at three and

841
00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:42.639
<v Speaker 4>a half.

842
00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:46.039
<v Speaker 3>But you've got Florida State and LSU.

843
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:50.119
<v Speaker 4>LSU is favored by four and a half in that one.

844
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:57.119
<v Speaker 4>You've got let's see, Miami and Arkansas. Arkansas favored in

845
00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:02.800
<v Speaker 4>that one by looks like z four and a half,

846
00:37:03.119 --> 00:37:03.840
<v Speaker 4>which I would take.

847
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:05.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Miami's been bad this.

848
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:07.880
<v Speaker 4>Year, so I feel like I would take Arkansas there,

849
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:09.960
<v Speaker 4>but I don't know they've they've kind of struggled as well.

850
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:13.679
<v Speaker 4>Syracuston Tennessee. Tennessee is favored about twenty one and a

851
00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:17.719
<v Speaker 4>half points in that game. The other matchups here in

852
00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:21.119
<v Speaker 4>Night one of the ACC SEC Challenge, and there's some

853
00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:24.000
<v Speaker 4>of these teams, like, for example, like California and Missouri.

854
00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:26.400
<v Speaker 4>Took me a while to realize, you know what, that's

855
00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:29.000
<v Speaker 4>also part of the ACC SEC Challenge. Missouri and the

856
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:31.239
<v Speaker 4>SEC is still kind of weird to me, honestly, although

857
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:33.239
<v Speaker 4>they've been there for a while. Cal in the ACC

858
00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:35.480
<v Speaker 4>It's still never gonna seem real. But Missouri is favored

859
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:39.280
<v Speaker 4>about ten and a half against Cal. South Carolina Boston College.

860
00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:42.679
<v Speaker 4>South Carolina favored by four and a half at BC

861
00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:47.199
<v Speaker 4>and then Notre Dame in Georgia. Georgia's at home hosting

862
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:48.760
<v Speaker 4>Notre Dame. They are favored by eight and a half.

863
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:51.039
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, Louisville right now the only team in the

864
00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:53.800
<v Speaker 4>ACC in Night one that it's favored, which I mean

865
00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:56.719
<v Speaker 4>doesn't mean that you won't see some upsets. I mean

866
00:37:56.760 --> 00:37:59.480
<v Speaker 4>I would hope that the ACC can be competitive in

867
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:01.519
<v Speaker 4>this is gonna tell you. I'm not gonna be shocked

868
00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:04.599
<v Speaker 4>if they're not, because this is this is this is

869
00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:06.880
<v Speaker 4>a number, this is an opinion. This is a number,

870
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:11.599
<v Speaker 4>and you can try to manipulate the number to mean

871
00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:13.800
<v Speaker 4>whatever you want it to mean. But facts are facts

872
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:23.760
<v Speaker 4>right now in the ACC, the league itself as of now,

873
00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:27.079
<v Speaker 4>because there already have been some ACC SEC matchups. For example,

874
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:29.559
<v Speaker 4>the louisll played Tennessee. So right now as we speak

875
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:34.400
<v Speaker 4>today on December the third, the SEC is twelve and

876
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:39.000
<v Speaker 4>one against the ACC. Before this thing started, the only

877
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:41.760
<v Speaker 4>win for the ACC in the against the against the

878
00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:45.079
<v Speaker 4>SEC up to this point is pitt who beat LSU, which,

879
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:48.599
<v Speaker 4>by the way, Piblock's really good. The ACC against other

880
00:38:48.760 --> 00:38:53.039
<v Speaker 4>power conferences Big East, Big twelve, Big ten SEC so

881
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:55.840
<v Speaker 4>far this year twelve and twenty nine.

882
00:38:57.079 --> 00:38:59.719
<v Speaker 3>This is where you have to win games in order

883
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:00.280
<v Speaker 3>to that.

884
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:02.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, when you get to the league, you get some

885
00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:05.679
<v Speaker 4>level of benefit of the doubt that you know, yeah,

886
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:08.039
<v Speaker 4>their records not great, But man, what are you gonna

887
00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:09.679
<v Speaker 4>do you play in the ACC. Well, if you lose

888
00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:12.599
<v Speaker 4>to all these other power conferences and you're a mid

889
00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:14.960
<v Speaker 4>level team in this league, I don't know how you

890
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:17.960
<v Speaker 4>can expect to make the tournament unless you're just gonna

891
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:22.360
<v Speaker 4>get a gift. I mean, it's crazy. So ten years

892
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:24.719
<v Speaker 4>ago I went back and looked at this. Ten years

893
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:28.159
<v Speaker 4>ago the twenty twenty five season, five of the top

894
00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:30.440
<v Speaker 4>twelve teams and the final eight peop pole were from

895
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:33.320
<v Speaker 4>the ACC. Six of those teams were in the top

896
00:39:33.360 --> 00:39:37.440
<v Speaker 4>twenty five, so you had six top twenty five teams

897
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:40.159
<v Speaker 4>at the end of the season. Duke won the championship.

898
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:42.519
<v Speaker 4>And by the way, your six ranked teams was two

899
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:47.519
<v Speaker 4>more than any other league. So now, I mean, who's

900
00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:49.719
<v Speaker 4>good in the league. I mean, Carolina and Duke are

901
00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:52.400
<v Speaker 4>always gonna be up. And I know NC State made

902
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:54.800
<v Speaker 4>a Final four last year, and I know Miami did

903
00:39:54.800 --> 00:39:57.599
<v Speaker 4>in twenty twenty three. But like the days of having

904
00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:04.880
<v Speaker 4>a deep conference, that the success is sustainable it's just

905
00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:07.519
<v Speaker 4>gone like Miami made a Final four and then last

906
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:09.679
<v Speaker 4>year they were the most disappointing team maybe in college

907
00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:13.440
<v Speaker 4>basketball NC State. The only reason they made the tournament

908
00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:17.519
<v Speaker 4>is because nobody in the league could put away a

909
00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:20.280
<v Speaker 4>team that finished nine and eleven in league play. Kevin

910
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:22.800
<v Speaker 4>Keats was gonna get fired. He almost lost to Kenny

911
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:25.119
<v Speaker 4>Payne in the a SEC tournament. And I love Keats.

912
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:27.679
<v Speaker 4>Like again, I'm not picking on the AEC. I just

913
00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:30.039
<v Speaker 4>don't know why people won't acknowledge the fact that, like, man,

914
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:32.000
<v Speaker 4>what happened in this league? And I know the answer, Well,

915
00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:33.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, we lost a bunch of coaches. Well yeah,

916
00:40:33.960 --> 00:40:37.800
<v Speaker 4>but go fix it. I mean, the SEC is the

917
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:40.920
<v Speaker 4>best example. They invested in basketball. They realized, oh yeah,

918
00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:43.519
<v Speaker 4>we're pretty good in football. We kind of own that, right. Well,

919
00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:45.599
<v Speaker 4>now we got a network. We're gonna have to put

920
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:48.239
<v Speaker 4>college basketball games on these on these on this network,

921
00:40:48.239 --> 00:40:49.760
<v Speaker 4>and we're gonna need people to watch, We're gonna need

922
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:50.360
<v Speaker 4>people to care.

923
00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:51.400
<v Speaker 3>So what do they do.

924
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:53.400
<v Speaker 4>They encourage league members to go out there and invest

925
00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:56.159
<v Speaker 4>in basketball, and it's worked out. They've hired some phenomenal

926
00:40:56.159 --> 00:40:59.239
<v Speaker 4>coaches and now the SEC. I believe when it comes

927
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:02.679
<v Speaker 4>to depth. Is the second best league in the country,

928
00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:04.599
<v Speaker 4>maybe the best depending on what happens with the Big

929
00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:10.480
<v Speaker 4>Twelve this year. So you've got teams like Louisville and yeah,

930
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:12.400
<v Speaker 4>I should have put the disclaimer out there beforehand. Like

931
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:14.039
<v Speaker 4>I know, Louisville is one of the is maybe the

932
00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:18.880
<v Speaker 4>biggest problem here because they were for the most part

933
00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:21.079
<v Speaker 4>a pretty damn good team in their own league since

934
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:23.599
<v Speaker 4>they got there, and then they've fallen off a cliff. So,

935
00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:25.719
<v Speaker 4>like I know, Louisville is a big factor in it,

936
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:27.400
<v Speaker 4>but it's not just Louislle. And by the way, Louisville,

937
00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:30.039
<v Speaker 4>to their credit, is always going to have a strong

938
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:32.920
<v Speaker 4>investment in being good in basketball. That's why they got

939
00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:34.679
<v Speaker 4>rid of Kenny Paine after two years and probably should

940
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:36.199
<v Speaker 4>have done after one year. And we'll see what happens

941
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:37.599
<v Speaker 4>with Pat Kelsey. But like Loue, you have to worry

942
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:41.880
<v Speaker 4>about Louisville prioritizing basketball. You have Florida State who has

943
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:45.639
<v Speaker 4>falling off a cliff in recent years. Virginia Tony Bennett

944
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:48.599
<v Speaker 4>ran away from the game because he started to become

945
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:51.360
<v Speaker 4>not only a guy that couldn't live up to the

946
00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:53.840
<v Speaker 4>standard that he set for himself. He became a bum

947
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:57.360
<v Speaker 4>in this new world of college basketball. I mean, Notre

948
00:41:57.480 --> 00:41:59.280
<v Speaker 4>Dame with Mike Bray they were pretty good. Right now

949
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:01.719
<v Speaker 4>they're not. You know, like maybe they can get something

950
00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:04.880
<v Speaker 4>going with Michael Shrewsbury, but like they're not a legitimate

951
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:09.800
<v Speaker 4>team right now. I mean, who else used to be good,

952
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:11.800
<v Speaker 4>Like Virginia Tech. They had a good run there with

953
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:15.559
<v Speaker 4>Buzz Williams. Now they're dead last among Power five teams

954
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:18.920
<v Speaker 4>in the net rankings. And I know Clemson made an

955
00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:22.400
<v Speaker 4>lead eight last year, but they finally made the tournament

956
00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:25.360
<v Speaker 4>and then did win some games, and they deserve credit

957
00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:27.360
<v Speaker 4>for that, But Brad brown Wells their coach, they're not

958
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:27.760
<v Speaker 4>gonna go.

959
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:29.280
<v Speaker 3>I bet they don't go back to the tournament for

960
00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:31.239
<v Speaker 3>a long time. So like I don't.

961
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:33.639
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think you fixed it by investing in

962
00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:36.320
<v Speaker 4>basketball and going and paying a lot of money to

963
00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:39.000
<v Speaker 4>get really good coaches. Like go play if you're if

964
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:40.599
<v Speaker 4>you're one of these schools that used to be really

965
00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:44.000
<v Speaker 4>good and you've fallen off, go take somebody's coach. And

966
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:45.880
<v Speaker 4>to do that, you've got to have an investment. And

967
00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:48.280
<v Speaker 4>clearly the AEC is not bringing in the same revenue

968
00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:50.760
<v Speaker 4>that the SEC and the Big Ten are, but still

969
00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:54.840
<v Speaker 4>like if you don't, I mean, I think the ACC

970
00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:58.079
<v Speaker 4>is a basketball conference will always be propped up by

971
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:01.119
<v Speaker 4>the big time programs like Duke in Carolina, and I'm

972
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:03.679
<v Speaker 4>hoping that one day Louisville can be a program that

973
00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:05.760
<v Speaker 4>is kind of holding their weight. They haven't done it

974
00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:08.320
<v Speaker 4>in a long time, but you know, if they, if

975
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:10.239
<v Speaker 4>things work out with Pat Kelsey, I think you could

976
00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:12.280
<v Speaker 4>be one of the examples of a of a team

977
00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:16.360
<v Speaker 4>that's that's not a factor in the ACC looking like

978
00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:18.639
<v Speaker 4>a league that is a shell of what it once was.

979
00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:24.159
<v Speaker 4>But I mean, I just the reason I bring this

980
00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:25.800
<v Speaker 4>up is because I looked at those numbers and I thought,

981
00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:27.960
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if anybody realizes how bad it actually is.

982
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:31.119
<v Speaker 4>But also when I was at the a SEC basketball

983
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:35.960
<v Speaker 4>media day in Charlotte, instead of acknowledging like how far

984
00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:38.119
<v Speaker 4>the league's fallen and like you need like you're not

985
00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:39.360
<v Speaker 4>what you want and I don't mean, I don't that's

986
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:41.360
<v Speaker 4>not They're not going to lead the conference media days

987
00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:44.760
<v Speaker 4>by talking about how how everybody sucks. But instead of

988
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:47.400
<v Speaker 4>like you know, addressing it and acknowledging it and and

989
00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:50.360
<v Speaker 4>trying to find a path forward and getting better. They

990
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:52.800
<v Speaker 4>just blamed the committee as if they're being picked on,

991
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:56.360
<v Speaker 4>Like no, like the ACC is nowhere close to what

992
00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:59.519
<v Speaker 4>it once was, and there's look that's that's not anything

993
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:02.079
<v Speaker 4>we can change right now. But the people in denial

994
00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:04.000
<v Speaker 4>about it, I just don't understand, Like, go look, go

995
00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:05.760
<v Speaker 4>look at what the AEC used to look like. You

996
00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:08.039
<v Speaker 4>used to have opportunities for quad one wins like every

997
00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:11.199
<v Speaker 4>other game. Now you better win in a non conference

998
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:14.440
<v Speaker 4>because if you don't, and you don't beat the few

999
00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:16.599
<v Speaker 4>good teams you have in your league, you're looking at

1000
00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:19.599
<v Speaker 4>the nit. All right, quick break, we'll come back on

1001
00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:22.119
<v Speaker 4>the other side. We've got cl Brown joining us to

1002
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:23.840
<v Speaker 4>get the four o'clock hour started right here on Sports

1003
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:24.599
<v Speaker 4>Talk seven ninety
