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Speaker 4: Your host, Drew Davenport, there are full hearts.
Speaker 5: Hey, everybody, Welcome into the Auction Brief. As the lady said,
Speaker 5: I'm your host, Drew Davenport, and thank you so much
Speaker 5: for joining me for another episode. As you know, we
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Speaker 5: on here from my weekly disc Dicussions with Drew. These
Speaker 5: conversations are there to help you with the most difficult
Speaker 5: fantasy situations you're going to face in your drafts this summer.
Speaker 5: Let's not delay. Let's get right to this week's guest
Speaker 5: on another installment of Discussions with Drew.
Speaker 4: Time for Discussions with Drew, in depth conversations with the
Speaker 4: brightest minds in the fantasy industry.
Speaker 5: Welcome into this week's discussions with Drew. Our guest for
Speaker 5: you this week is a man that I had the
Speaker 5: pleasure of spending a little bit of face to face
Speaker 5: time with this past weekend, Michael f Florio from the
Speaker 5: NFL Network Fantasy Analyst NFL Analysts. He's got his fingers
Speaker 5: in a lot of different pies here with Sirius XM
Speaker 5: Fantasy and the Sick podcast covering the Buffalo Bills. We'll
Speaker 5: get a chance to talk with him about the bills today.
Speaker 5: But welcome to the show. Thank you so much for
Speaker 5: making time for us.
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you for having me Drew.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I got to spend a lot some face
Speaker 3: time with you, but not as much as I you know,
Speaker 3: I could always use more time with Drews, So.
Speaker 5: I know, man, I felt like we were kind of
Speaker 5: like in each other's orbit the whole weekend, but like
Speaker 5: not a lot of like actual time together, which you know,
Speaker 5: that's how it goes. It feels like you're at a wedding,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, every time you turn around, you're having a
Speaker 3: new conversation.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's fun, it's great. But I left and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I didn't get to hang out
Speaker 1: with you as.
Speaker 5: Much as I wanted, I know, and I looked for
Speaker 5: you guys the last night, and then I was bothering
Speaker 5: you and Marcus when you were on the air on
Speaker 5: Sunday because I just like wanted to talk to you guys.
Speaker 5: I'd barely hung out with you guys. But my favorite
Speaker 5: was Marcus telling us one night he was going to
Speaker 5: bed by just texting me and you saying it's a rap,
Speaker 5: Like it was no explanation, no I'm out of here,
Speaker 5: no I'll catch up with you tomorrow. Just it's a rap.
Speaker 5: And then that was the end for Marcus. But had
Speaker 5: a great time seeing you man.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 5: Likewise, so thank you for Green to come on the show.
Speaker 5: We got a ton of news to get to because
Speaker 5: it's the best time of year where we actually get
Speaker 5: to talk about football without like speculating about what might
Speaker 5: happen because we're in training camps, so that's super exciting.
Speaker 5: And I put together like a camp highlight kind of
Speaker 5: show sheet today what are the narratives that we're hearing
Speaker 5: And I want to let you unpack some of this
Speaker 5: stuff and see what your opinions are on the narratives
Speaker 5: that are developing, because there are some that are really
Speaker 5: starting to get a runaway train here, and I want
Speaker 5: to see whether we need to stop that or whether
Speaker 5: you're in on the narrative. So yeah, the first one
Speaker 5: I want to talk about is the two most important
Speaker 5: guys in fantasy football this year, Jamior Gibbs and Bjeon Robinson.
Speaker 5: They're doing what we call the hold in now. They're
Speaker 5: not actually staying away, but they're not practicing because ostensibly
Speaker 5: they both want new contracts. Is that in fact what's
Speaker 5: going on? And do we need to be concerned about
Speaker 5: these two guys?
Speaker 1: I don't think so at all.
Speaker 3: Look, it's there's still a very long runway for these
Speaker 3: guys to get signed. I guess I would if you
Speaker 3: ask me which one is a little bit more concerning,
Speaker 3: I guess it's Bijon because new play caller, new OC
Speaker 3: like a lot.
Speaker 1: Of change there this year.
Speaker 3: So the more time away from the team, the less
Speaker 3: optimal that is. But I think both of these teams
Speaker 3: know how good those two are. I think they know
Speaker 3: their offense is going to go. Look, they have a
Speaker 3: lot of other talented pieces around them, but they're going
Speaker 3: the running game and a large portion of the offense
Speaker 3: is gonna go as far as you as these guys
Speaker 3: can take you. And maybe if like the Lions didn't
Speaker 3: trade David Montgomery, you'd be a little bit more concerned
Speaker 3: about Gibbs. But I think both of these guys get paid.
Speaker 3: I think it's really cool that they're kind of doing
Speaker 3: this together. They came into the league together, they're taken
Speaker 3: over together. Now they're advancing the position and the pay
Speaker 3: rate at the position together. I still think they're picks
Speaker 3: one and two as of now. Now, look, if maybe
Speaker 3: you want to pivot and take a Chase or a Puka,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't, but I'm not.
Speaker 1: Gonna tell you that's a bad decision.
Speaker 3: But I'm not letting this hold in right now, five
Speaker 3: weeks out from Week one, determining from what I think
Speaker 3: are the two best players in fantasy football.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm with you there.
Speaker 5: It's a little bit funny that we heard zero of
Speaker 5: this and we've all just been on the Gibbs Vijon
Speaker 5: like no doubt or train to this point, and then
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, training camp starts and they're they're
Speaker 5: both like, yeah, we're not practicing. It is kind of
Speaker 5: amusing because we do this for a job that can
Speaker 5: also be seen with other descriptors there for us best
Speaker 5: ball drafters. But hey, let's talk about another situation that
Speaker 5: just kind of I feel like Ron Burgundy that escalated quickly.
Speaker 5: We've got Ricky piersall out in San Francisco looking like
Speaker 5: he's going to be shut down for the season. So
Speaker 5: number one, is he even draftable at all?
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 5: I'm hearing that he's just going undrafted in some FFPC
Speaker 5: leagues because people think he's done.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 5: Sure looks like that's happening. But then they go out
Speaker 5: and they sign Deebo Samuel off the street for a
Speaker 5: reunion there in San Francisco. What do we think about
Speaker 5: this entire situation? And are you chasing any of the
Speaker 5: wide receivers in San Francisco right now with these developments?
Speaker 3: Like, I get it if you want to throw a
Speaker 3: later around dart throw on these guys. But I'm okay
Speaker 3: with Mike Evans where he's going. But he is not
Speaker 3: someone that I have typically drafted a bunch of yet
Speaker 3: in my best balls and the few redrafts that I've
Speaker 3: done already. Because while I like Mike Evans, there's tense, like,
Speaker 3: like I like Terry McLaurin, Lad mcconkee, DJ Moore, a
Speaker 3: whole lot more, and they go in the same range,
Speaker 3: so I'm typically ending up with other names there.
Speaker 1: I did see. I know Scott Barrett tweeted this out.
Speaker 3: I forget who he was quoting, but he said, like
Speaker 3: someone said, whatever happens with Mike Evans at the end
Speaker 3: of the year, it's gonna be very obvious. Either he's
Speaker 3: gonna miss a bunch of time due to injury, or
Speaker 3: he's gonna score like thirteen touchdowns to be the Devonte
Speaker 3: Adams And either way, yeah, I think that is exactly
Speaker 3: how it's gonna go. In the King's Classic auction the
Speaker 3: other day, I threw a one dollar bid on Christian Kirk.
Speaker 3: I do think Kirk is someone that in a pinch,
Speaker 3: you could throw in, and I think he's a better
Speaker 3: real life asset than fantasy asset.
Speaker 1: But while he's out there, I do think Kirk is
Speaker 1: a little underrated.
Speaker 3: Like the last we saw of him, he was going
Speaker 3: off for the Texans in the playoffs, So I know
Speaker 3: everyone really also likes Stribling right now, like he's the
Speaker 3: big hype this week, And I tweeted jokingly when they
Speaker 3: signed Deebo, I was like, well, this stripling season was
Speaker 3: fun while it lasted, and I had a lot of
Speaker 3: people being like, no, look at who they have. He's
Speaker 3: going to get playing time. I don't disagree because they're
Speaker 3: all aging Deebo, Evans, Christian Kirk. They have the power
Speaker 3: plan if you believe in that stuff and all of that.
Speaker 3: But my pushback is, I don't think this Debo signing
Speaker 3: is nothing. Man, if Deebo signed with another team, maybe
Speaker 3: you could then say it's nothing. But this isn't another team.
Speaker 3: This is the team where Deebo Samuel made his name
Speaker 3: and got paid and put up monstrous numbers. And the
Speaker 3: thing that I think, and I don't think it's exclusive
Speaker 3: to fantasy football. I think, as someone who does a
Speaker 3: lot of fantasy baseball stuff, I think we make a
Speaker 3: big mistake two mistakes. One, I think we think we
Speaker 3: know how a situation is going to play out better
Speaker 3: than we do. But two, I think we think that
Speaker 3: like the way that we view it is the way
Speaker 3: coaches view it. I guarantee you Kyle Shanahan is not
Speaker 3: sitting here thinking, well, Deebo Samuels is old and is
Speaker 3: heading towards that age, Cliff, I gotta get the young kid.
Speaker 3: That's what us fantasy analysts want. But Kyle Shanahan is thinking,
Speaker 3: I can trust this guy. I've built systems around this guy.
Speaker 3: He knows where he has to be when he has
Speaker 3: to be. He knows my system inside and out. So
Speaker 3: my thinking if healthy, it's a big if. But if
Speaker 3: that trio of forty nine ers wide receivers are healthy,
Speaker 3: I think those are the top three wide receivers in
Speaker 3: week one and so on. I do think Stripling will
Speaker 3: get an opportunity because I don't think these guys stay
Speaker 3: healthy all year.
Speaker 1: But to me, and look, he's a later on dart throw.
Speaker 1: If you want to throw that dart, I have no
Speaker 1: problem with it.
Speaker 3: But if he keeps getting hyped up, I will eventually
Speaker 3: be out because Drew. I think this is gonna be
Speaker 3: one of those situations where if those three are healthy
Speaker 3: week one, Obviously, if a camp injury happens, that changes everything.
Speaker 1: But if they're healthy, I think.
Speaker 3: The person that drafts Dribbling will not be the one
Speaker 3: that gets the eventual breakout if it occurs, because if
Speaker 3: we go two three weeks where he's playing behind those
Speaker 3: other three wide receivers, the person.
Speaker 1: That drafted him is gonna end up throwing him back
Speaker 1: on the way wire.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the main problem with these kind of players,
Speaker 5: and especially with this class. There's not a Justin Jefferson
Speaker 5: or Jamar Chase in this class. There's a bunch of
Speaker 5: guys who may earn the time, but don't look like
Speaker 5: they're going to come out of the blocks with a
Speaker 5: solid route or snapshare. I don't see many of them
Speaker 5: at all. So that's a great point. A lot of
Speaker 5: logic in this conversation here that I love. One of
Speaker 5: the comments you made about Mike Evans is it's interesting
Speaker 5: to me where Evans is going because his ADP shows
Speaker 5: that I should be able to get him at a
Speaker 5: reasonable spot, and he never seems to be there. So
Speaker 5: I always wonder like, where's this ADP coming from? Because
Speaker 5: somebody is always more interested in him than I am,
Speaker 5: and I feel like where he's being drafted, the risk
Speaker 5: of his recent injury problems is not being baked in
Speaker 5: because somebody's excited about him being with Shanahan and all
Speaker 5: the touchdown possibility. So okay, well, I can talk about
Speaker 5: the forty nine ers forever There are a lot of
Speaker 5: parts of this and you hit on most of them
Speaker 5: there so or if not all of them, And we
Speaker 5: could dive really deep into that, but I want to
Speaker 5: continue moving here with some of the big camp talking points,
Speaker 5: and one of them's Molik neighbors. This is an interesting
Speaker 5: one because I've been leading the charge on do not
Speaker 5: draft Melak neighbors. This is a complicated recovery situation. I
Speaker 5: saw him limping around to that softball game. I'm like,
Speaker 5: how is this guy going to play NFL football in
Speaker 5: three months?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 5: Here we are watching clips of him running routes, sticking
Speaker 5: that foot in the ground and planting and cutting. Are
Speaker 5: we feeling better today or is that sort of like
Speaker 5: one of those things that we just need to kind
Speaker 5: of turn our brain off and ignore because we know
Speaker 5: timelines and timelines are rarely wrong when it comes to
Speaker 5: these type of recoveries. What do you think about neighbors
Speaker 5: and how are you treating him?
Speaker 3: Ah, this is one that is and I said this
Speaker 3: back in like January February. Neighbors is going to be
Speaker 3: the hardest one for me because on one hand, I
Speaker 3: agree with everything you said, right, and it's something I'm
Speaker 3: trying to get better at is not assuming the best
Speaker 3: case scenario.
Speaker 1: When we're talking about hell especially.
Speaker 3: I know there's outliers to every rule, but more often
Speaker 3: than not, that first year back from a severe injury
Speaker 3: is not optimal. Right Like the players working in the
Speaker 3: way back, they might not be ready.
Speaker 1: Week one, you know.
Speaker 3: So I get that line of thinking, and my thinking
Speaker 3: was be disciplined, Let someone else have neighbors and you
Speaker 3: get him next year. But drewlik Nighbors.
Speaker 1: You know, we all have our guys.
Speaker 3: Milik Neighbors is like my guy, and I know I'm
Speaker 3: not the only one who likes Melik Neighbors. But when
Speaker 3: he was a prospect, I was like, he's better than
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior.
Speaker 1: Like I think he is amazing.
Speaker 3: And then people were fading him a bit because of
Speaker 3: his quarterback in year one.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I'm taking him on as many
Speaker 1: teams as I could get him. Year two.
Speaker 3: I was saying last year, Drew that I think at
Speaker 3: the end of the year, we're gonna be talking about
Speaker 3: Neighbors the way we talk about Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 1: I think he is that good. But I was really
Speaker 1: fearful like you with all of these reports.
Speaker 3: For so long, we're negative, right, and he had to
Speaker 3: have a second procedure and all this stuff. But now
Speaker 3: the fact that he avoided the pup, he's out there.
Speaker 3: It looks plausible he could be there for Week one.
Speaker 3: I've already bumped him a good bit. Now he's more
Speaker 3: in the teens. I had him outside the top twenty
Speaker 3: wide receivers initially.
Speaker 1: Now he's in the teens.
Speaker 3: And I won't lie if he looks good in preseason,
Speaker 3: I'm going to continue to bump him up and up
Speaker 3: and up. Partly because I'm a sucker from the league neighbors,
Speaker 3: but also partly because I am a big believer and
Speaker 3: this kind of goes against a little bit what I
Speaker 3: was saying with you know, the coming back from injury
Speaker 3: might not be the same right away. I'm a big
Speaker 3: believer that earlier in the year, you're just trying to
Speaker 3: stay in contention and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Right Like, like, obviously you always want to win. You
Speaker 1: don't want to be two and two, you'd rather be four.
Speaker 3: No, I get that, But I want my team playing
Speaker 3: its best at the end of the year, not at
Speaker 3: the beginning. The games at the end of the year
Speaker 3: is simply matter more. You could lose any regular season
Speaker 3: game and you're fine. You lose a playoffs and your
Speaker 3: season is over. So you want your lineup at its
Speaker 3: absolute best weeks fifteen, sixteen, and seventeen in my thinking.
Speaker 3: So because of that, I could be in very much
Speaker 3: see myself in on Neighbors and where he's going right now, Drew,
Speaker 3: I am going to be trying to get a lot
Speaker 3: more because, like I said, I wasn't super in on
Speaker 3: him early this summer, but I've already seen people say
Speaker 3: they think he's going to be going in the early
Speaker 3: second round come Labor Day, and if that is the case,
Speaker 3: it becomes a.
Speaker 1: Lot harder to hit drafts. So what I'm trying to
Speaker 1: do in my early draft is get him so that.
Speaker 3: I don't have to pay full price in my drafts
Speaker 3: that are like Labor Day weekend stuff like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't imagine walking into a home league and
Speaker 5: not seeing him go for in the second round. If
Speaker 5: this continues now, who knows. We still haven't even heard
Speaker 5: today if we've got swelling, or if he's taking the
Speaker 5: day off or he's doing it every other day. Thing
Speaker 5: there's still a lot of information that we can gather,
Speaker 5: and look, the time is on our side right now,
Speaker 5: because we do, like you said a little bit ago,
Speaker 5: have five weeks to figure this out, and we're going
Speaker 5: to know a lot more about him coming up. But
Speaker 5: I think it's a really interesting conversation and I'm open
Speaker 5: to being wrong on this whole thing. But man, oh man,
Speaker 5: these kind of injuries, boy, they rarely end well. But
Speaker 5: you know, with elite guys, sometimes they do elite things.
Speaker 2: So all right, let's move on to the Cardinals situation. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, Adrian Peterson pops into my head every
Speaker 5: time I think about this because I faded him fully
Speaker 5: that year. I was drafting Toby Gearhart like a chump.
Speaker 5: And yeah, here we are.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard the name Toby Gerhart in a while.
Speaker 2: Who has right him? And orlandis Gary hanging out?
Speaker 5: Okay, I got problems, man, All right, So let's talk
Speaker 5: about the Cardinals wide receivers. We continue to see that
Speaker 5: the Marvin Harrison thing. It's a litmus test really for
Speaker 5: how you feel about fantasy football and how you do
Speaker 5: these kind of things, because you can see a lot
Speaker 5: of footage of him dropping passes. But then you can
Speaker 5: also see a lot of footage of him, you know,
Speaker 5: going deep and get the getting the touchdown against air
Speaker 5: or whatever. But I tell you what, I just got
Speaker 5: to be completely honest. I can't draft either one of them.
Speaker 2: I haven't.
Speaker 5: But if you put Michael Wilson on the screen and
Speaker 5: then you put Marvin Harrison on the screen, Michael Wilson
Speaker 5: just looks better.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: I don't know, like that's a super unscientific thing. He
Speaker 5: just looks better to me. Like it's just to me,
Speaker 5: it's kind of wild like that I'm having this weird
Speaker 5: realization as I'm watching these videos. But man, man, So anyway,
Speaker 5: let's put that aside. What do you think about this situation?
Speaker 5: Is Harrison's situation as bad as people are making it
Speaker 5: out to be.
Speaker 3: Uh, I've heard a lot of speculation that he doesn't
Speaker 3: want to be there anymore and he's trying to He's
Speaker 3: pulling at James Arden something like that, and uh, I
Speaker 3: could see that potentially.
Speaker 1: I'm not react.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, overreact. I'm not reacting to the camp. Okay,
Speaker 3: he dropped the ball in camp. I don't care, you know,
Speaker 3: Like what I care about is what Michael Wilson said
Speaker 3: earlier this week, to me, mattered more than anything that
Speaker 3: I've seen at camp where he was talking about how
Speaker 3: last year. Because I tweeted out the this back in May,
Speaker 3: I bumped it on my account this week if you want.
Speaker 1: To go check it out.
Speaker 3: But even after his huge breakout games, when Marvin Harrison played,
Speaker 3: Michael Wilson reverted back. Maybe he was still better than
Speaker 3: what he was prior to the breakout, but he was
Speaker 3: not a must arte guy when Marv was out there.
Speaker 3: The thing that he said though, was in Drew Petsing's offense,
Speaker 3: he would play the Z and he'd play X when
Speaker 3: Marv was out and the offense ran through the X
Speaker 3: and that's why.
Speaker 1: He got all that volume when he was out there.
Speaker 3: So I originally was like, I think Marvin, so I
Speaker 3: think both of them are kind of going at a
Speaker 3: discount right now from what their upside is. Like, I
Speaker 3: think Marv getting him outside the top thirty cheapest than
Speaker 3: he's ever been. I'm not gonna have a ton of him.
Speaker 3: I don't want to say like I'm enamored with him.
Speaker 3: He's one of my guys, but at that cost, I'll
Speaker 3: throw a dart or two, you know, And with Michael Wilson,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pat myself on the back here.
Speaker 1: I did tweet this out this week.
Speaker 3: I went back to my pre draft right up for him,
Speaker 3: and I was like, this is my favorite guy to
Speaker 3: come out of nowhere in this class because he's uber talented.
Speaker 3: Injuries or why he's going to fall in the draft
Speaker 3: and injuries or why he's being not really looked at
Speaker 3: as a top name. So I've always believed in the
Speaker 3: talent of Michael Wilson, But the biggest thing giving me
Speaker 3: pause with the Cardinals, it's why and look, I've Trey
Speaker 3: McBride has been my Titan one in the last couple
Speaker 3: of years.
Speaker 1: I'm fading Trey McBride this year. I don't want to go.
Speaker 3: I see the upside with Michael Wilson outside the top
Speaker 3: forty wide receivers, But my biggest concern is at what
Speaker 3: point are they gonna sit Jacoby Brissett and turn to
Speaker 3: Carson Beck Because if and when that happens, these guys
Speaker 3: are going to take a hit.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: I understand the thinking they're underdogs, and I think they're
Speaker 3: big underdogs in their first fourteen or fifteen games this year,
Speaker 3: they're gonna have to throw a bunch. I get that
Speaker 3: the early season appeal is there for me, but at
Speaker 3: some point in time I think the Cardinals are gonna
Speaker 3: look at it and say, especially with the end of
Speaker 3: season schedule being a little bit softer, playing Jacoby Brissett
Speaker 3: goes against our long term interest. And we could say
Speaker 3: teams don't think that way. Teams think that way. We
Speaker 3: see it all the time. It's my fear with the
Speaker 3: Jets as well. It's why I want no part of
Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson this year. If that happens in the second
Speaker 3: half of the season, that could really drive down the value.
Speaker 3: And now, whatever happens in the fantasy playoffs, I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna want to start one of it.
Speaker 1: And I know it's crazy to plan fifteen weeks ahead.
Speaker 3: I always say schedule analysis is dumb like that, but
Speaker 3: this isn't schedule analysis. This is at some point in time,
Speaker 3: I think a third round quarterback who I watched and
Speaker 3: did not really like as a prospect is going to
Speaker 3: take over. And if that is the case, it's going
Speaker 3: to leave you with a lot of big question marks.
Speaker 3: In the second half of the season. Went again, to me,
Speaker 3: the games matter more than so that, more than anything else,
Speaker 3: is what gives me a.
Speaker 1: Lot of hesitation with drafting the Cardinals players this year.
Speaker 5: Boy, I saw a ridiculous tweet the other day, and
Speaker 5: I don't know if you saw it or somebody said,
Speaker 5: Carson Beck has really been missing as receivers and missing
Speaker 5: them by a lot, like by like five yards, and
Speaker 5: there's concern about how inaccurate he is. And I retweeted
Speaker 5: it and I said, so he's Carson Beck.
Speaker 2: I mean, like we knew this, right.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's incredible that these guys get
Speaker 5: drafted and all of a sudden we have amnesia about
Speaker 5: what they were for what Beck was in college for
Speaker 5: nine and a half years, Like we get we get
Speaker 5: amnesia all of a sudden about the fact that he
Speaker 5: sucked in college. He was, you know, my Hoosiers in
Speaker 5: the in the championship game. If they were facing a
Speaker 5: real quarterback, they might have lost that game. And Beck
Speaker 5: driving down the field even though I know he's Carson Beck,
Speaker 5: I was terrified. And then he threw a Carson Beck
Speaker 5: interception to end the game. So what the heck are
Speaker 5: we doing here? Glazing these guys like they're going to
Speaker 5: suddenly step into the NFL and get better. So the
Speaker 5: concern there is legitimate. Cardinals are poorly run organization, and
Speaker 5: they are going to tell themselves we can get a
Speaker 5: better draft pick, and we can see what we've got
Speaker 5: and know if we got to move off. This guy
Speaker 5: makes complete sense and it definitely worries me. Worries me
Speaker 5: for Trede McBride too, So okay, let's move on to Atlanta.
Speaker 5: Atlanta is a situation that I'm not sure enough of
Speaker 5: us are scared enough about because they've got some really
Speaker 5: important pieces here with b John Robinson and Drake London.
Speaker 5: And I made this point last summer and it didn't
Speaker 5: turn out to be correct, but I'm making it again
Speaker 5: right now, and that is that in order to support
Speaker 5: these high level fantasy assets, we've got to see decent
Speaker 5: quarterback play. And we got good enough quarterback play in
Speaker 5: Atlanta last year, and maybe that's how we can characterize
Speaker 5: it again this year. But neither quarterback is healthy to
Speaker 5: start training camp. That's a little concerning, especially for two
Speaker 5: guys that have checkered injury pasts. Now we've got a
Speaker 5: QB three running training camp.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 5: Do we need to be a little bit more concerned
Speaker 5: about this offense long term or do you think this
Speaker 5: resolves with Tua in his back and we're going to
Speaker 5: be okay.
Speaker 3: No, I'm very concerned for two reasons. One, London was
Speaker 3: much better with Michael Penick Junior last year. It was
Speaker 3: the exact opposite for Kyle Pitts.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Up to two, I'm more fearful
Speaker 1: of Drake London. So yeah, I fully accept the line
Speaker 1: of thinking that I think Drake.
Speaker 3: London Drew London is one of the best wide receivers
Speaker 3: in the NFL. I believe in the talent all of that,
Speaker 3: and I get it. He averaged over twenty Fantasy points
Speaker 3: per game with Michael Pennix.
Speaker 1: As the starter last year. My concern is one, is
Speaker 1: Panic's going to be healthy to start the year. We
Speaker 1: don't know. Two. I watched Tua.
Speaker 3: Down the stretch last year, and that was not a
Speaker 3: starting NFL caliber quarterback. And I think the fact that
Speaker 3: he might start over Michael Penick Junior says a whole
Speaker 3: lot more about Michael Pennix than I think it does
Speaker 3: about Tua, and I have concerns with Pitts as well,
Speaker 3: because Pitts averaged nineteen Fantasy points per game. When Drake
Speaker 3: London was out he averaged I think it was over
Speaker 3: sixteen per game. With Kirk Cousins, he was not good
Speaker 3: for the first twelve weeks of the season. He was
Speaker 3: a tight end fifteen and then he caught fire, or
Speaker 3: maybe it wasn't week twelve, but it was close to that.
Speaker 1: But I get it.
Speaker 3: At least with Pitts, you have two things on your side,
Speaker 3: or three things. I would say one, he's much cheaper. Two,
Speaker 3: the floor for success at tight end is much lower
Speaker 3: than it is at wide receiver. And the big one
Speaker 3: is Kevin Stefanski loves including the tight end. So I
Speaker 3: as much as like I have Drake London ranked eighth
Speaker 3: amongst my wide receivers, but I don't anticipate myself taking
Speaker 3: him all that much because if I miss out on
Speaker 3: usually like AJ Brown is there, but if AJ Brown
Speaker 3: is gone, I'll probably take one of the running backs instead.
Speaker 5: It's it's hard for me because I keep coming back
Speaker 5: to the fact that Drake London feels like he shouldn't
Speaker 5: be this cheap, and then I think everyone's having the
Speaker 5: same conversation in their head that there's a reason he's
Speaker 5: this cheap, and and I think that we need to
Speaker 5: be a little bit more concerned about Atlanta than we
Speaker 5: currently are. I'm kind of surprised nobody's sounding the alarm
Speaker 5: bells there on Twitter. Just haven't seen a lot of
Speaker 5: conversation about it. But we shall see, because we do,
Speaker 5: like we have said several times, we do have a
Speaker 5: lot of time and maybe to his back condition calms
Speaker 5: down and he's okay, But I'm not sure that's the
Speaker 5: thing that we need to be hanging our hat on either.
Speaker 5: Let's hope tous healthy. Yeah, really, So okay, let's move
Speaker 5: on to the situation in Dallas, and I'm going to
Speaker 5: talk about their running backs because we're getting a lot
Speaker 5: of Jaden Blue steam here. And last year, a large
Speaker 5: part of why Javonte Williams such an enticing fantasy piece
Speaker 5: was his work near the goal line, and he got
Speaker 5: plenty of receiving work early on. Now that the receiving
Speaker 5: work wasn't as sustained at the end of the season
Speaker 5: that we wanted to see, so that makes me a
Speaker 5: little bit concerned. But the Jaden Blue stuff, it's interesting
Speaker 5: to me because I felt like he really couldn't get
Speaker 5: out of his own way last year, and there's rumors
Speaker 5: that he's studying harder, that he's got the system down,
Speaker 5: that he's in a better spot this year. Can we
Speaker 5: believe the hype and if we can, do we even
Speaker 5: ding Javonte Williams because they didn't really have a backup
Speaker 5: that could do anything last year. But maybe that does
Speaker 5: matter for Javonte Williams. Maybe it eats away enough that
Speaker 5: maybe he is being properly priced or maybe a little overpriced.
Speaker 5: I don't know what to think right now. I want
Speaker 5: to see this develop. What's your initial impression of the
Speaker 5: Blue hype.
Speaker 3: I had I drafted Blue in our King Classic auction
Speaker 3: this week.
Speaker 1: I had Blue on that team last year.
Speaker 3: I had Blue on a lot of teams last year
Speaker 3: because I do believe in his talent.
Speaker 1: I think he is a good passing passing down option.
Speaker 3: I think he has explosiveness for days and when you're
Speaker 3: he's never going to completely.
Speaker 1: Steal the job away from Javonte Williams.
Speaker 3: So the way that an RB two could have standalone
Speaker 3: value is if they get passing work and if they
Speaker 3: have big plays in their profile and that is why
Speaker 3: I am enamored with Jayden Blue. The other thing is
Speaker 3: Javonte I not the biggest Javonte guy.
Speaker 1: I understand, like last year he started.
Speaker 3: Off like a house of cards down the stretch, though
Speaker 3: he became a lot more closer to the old Javonte
Speaker 3: Williams than the league winner that we thought he might
Speaker 3: be early on. But I get it right, if you're
Speaker 3: gonna get that much volume on a high scoring offense
Speaker 3: like Dallas, you're you're going to be a top twenty.
Speaker 1: Back stuff like that.
Speaker 3: I don't think Blue dings him enough to where he's
Speaker 3: not worth going there. But to me, the biggest concern
Speaker 3: I have is what if the second half the first
Speaker 3: four years, in the second half of last season is
Speaker 3: the real Javante, right, not the first half of what
Speaker 3: we got last year. And if Blue eats into that work, Like,
Speaker 3: if he plays how he did the first half of.
Speaker 1: Last year, Blue will not matter for Javonte.
Speaker 3: But if he plays like he did the second half
Speaker 3: and Blue eats into that, You're gonna feel it. So
Speaker 3: you could call me crazy like I have, like someone
Speaker 3: like base tall two and ahead of Javonte Williams in
Speaker 3: my rankings.
Speaker 1: I just think the up side is higher.
Speaker 3: But I understand I'm in the minority there, so Javonte
Speaker 3: I'm just not the biggest Javonte Williams guy, so I
Speaker 3: a lot of the times where he's going, I'm taking
Speaker 3: a wide receiver in that range.
Speaker 5: I don't disagree there as much as I want to
Speaker 5: be in on Javonte Williams at the current price because
Speaker 5: I feel like it it should be a slam dunk.
Speaker 5: But other people have to be feeling the way that
Speaker 5: I'm feeling, which is that it's not a slam dunk.
Speaker 5: That it's just it makes me a little uneasy because
Speaker 5: of the way he finished last year. We both alluded
Speaker 5: to that. I'm just a little bit concerned, and it's
Speaker 5: kept me from really going hard at him in auctions,
Speaker 5: even though the price hasn't been that bad.
Speaker 2: I mean, he went for twenty one.
Speaker 5: Dollars on Saturday in The King's Classic. I think in
Speaker 5: that league where you need somebody flexes, it's a little
Speaker 5: criminal that he went that cheap because he's going to
Speaker 5: get three hundred touches. But other people are feeling what
Speaker 5: we're feeling, and I don't think that's something that we
Speaker 5: should ignore when we've been doing this as long as
Speaker 5: we have. Sometimes you're guy's telling you something. Okay, let's
Speaker 5: move on to Minnesota, where I know we're doing this
Speaker 5: a little more rapid fire than I normally do on
Speaker 5: my shows, but I kind of like it. So we're
Speaker 5: going to do a few more of these situations and
Speaker 5: then we're going to hear some targets and fades from
Speaker 5: Michael before we let him go. But let's talk about
Speaker 5: Minnesota because I heard some rumors this past weekend in
Speaker 5: Canton that there are people in the building in Minnesota
Speaker 5: that are concerned about Kyler Murray, that he's not picking
Speaker 5: up the offense as quick as they want him to,
Speaker 5: that he's not doing what they thought he was going
Speaker 5: to do when they brought him in. And Hey, as
Speaker 5: one of the biggest haters of Kyler Murray out there,
Speaker 5: I have to say, Hey, I could have told you
Speaker 5: that was going to happen. But I do have faith
Speaker 5: in Kevin O'Connell, and I thought that he would do
Speaker 5: something when he brought Murray in. So maybe it's just
Speaker 5: too early and he needs more time. But I'm a
Speaker 5: little bit concerned that we're hearing these reports now, and
Speaker 5: I guess I wouldn't call that a report. I heard
Speaker 5: a rumor this weekend, But we also heard a report
Speaker 5: from I believe Thor yesterday, who is very plugged with Minnesota,
Speaker 5: that he's watched two days of practice and JJ McCarthy
Speaker 5: has been better than Kyler Murray both days of practice. Now,
Speaker 5: that doesn't mean he's gonna win the job, but it
Speaker 5: means I'm that worries me man. I mean, I do
Speaker 5: know about you, but should we be backing off of
Speaker 5: Justin Jefferson a little bit and Jordan Addison's even going
Speaker 5: as a as an important wide receiver two piece? Are
Speaker 5: we not worried enough about this quarterback situation in Minnesota?
Speaker 1: I'm not as worried.
Speaker 3: Look, I get it.
Speaker 1: If you want to just completely fade the situation.
Speaker 3: If you say I don't want any part of it,
Speaker 3: I'm still drafting Kyler Murray one. Kyler has been a
Speaker 3: top twelve Fantasy points per game quarterback every year except
Speaker 3: for last year. Like, I think you're already getting him
Speaker 3: at his floor when you're giving him KOC and the
Speaker 3: weapons he has, not just Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison
Speaker 3: Juwan Jennings is there three. I think there's an argument
Speaker 3: that this might be the best one through three wide
Speaker 3: receiving room in the league.
Speaker 1: And if it's not, it's not far off.
Speaker 3: I'm not super bullish on Jordan Addison because I do
Speaker 3: as much as I think he's a really good wide receiver,
Speaker 3: I think Juwan Jennings is gonna have a role.
Speaker 1: I think TJ. Hockinson doesn't fully go away. They'll throw
Speaker 1: to the running backs.
Speaker 3: But the one player that you know is going to
Speaker 3: get a thirty percent target chair is Justin Jefferson, and
Speaker 3: I'm fully in. I think Justin Jefferson is the most
Speaker 3: obvious touchdown regression candidate ever. It was him and Wandell
Speaker 3: Robinson who had one hundred and forty more targets and
Speaker 3: less than two touchdowns last year. Like he to me,
Speaker 3: just screams obvious regression candidate. And I have a friend
Speaker 3: who doesn't work in this space but is a huge
Speaker 3: Vikings fan, and I was talking with him a lot
Speaker 3: over the summer and he was like, I think Justin
Speaker 3: Jefferson was checked out towards the end of the year,
Speaker 3: Like there was a lot of plays that you're used
Speaker 3: to seeing Jefferson make that he just wasn't making and
Speaker 3: he obviously Jefferson didn't lose that ability overnight. The other reason,
Speaker 3: and I'll take this the other direction, Drew, I think
Speaker 3: making this a competition is kind of dumb in my opinion,
Speaker 3: because you want a guy like Kyler Murray to have
Speaker 3: as many reps as possible, because I don't. I would
Speaker 3: be shocked if J. J. McCarthy is the Week one
Speaker 3: starter pending an injury, because I know, when when we
Speaker 3: get to this time of year, we're so far removed
Speaker 3: from last season. Right, we're eight months removed from the
Speaker 3: last time we've seen the Vikings play football. Let's not
Speaker 3: forget that both Koc and Justin Jefferson threw JJ McCarthy
Speaker 3: under the bustle and then put it in reverse and
Speaker 3: ran it back over him.
Speaker 1: They were like he would like.
Speaker 3: Koc was like, I'm looking forward to not having the
Speaker 3: quarterback position be a negative for us. That's like the
Speaker 3: guy is still on his roster and he said that, So, yeah,
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be Kyler and on Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 3: But I will say this, I have JJ as my
Speaker 3: wide receiver five when I have pause taking him. It's
Speaker 3: not because I don't want to take Justin Jefferson. It's
Speaker 3: because I'm like, well, Ashton Jentz's still there, or like
Speaker 3: James Cook is still there, So that gives me a
Speaker 3: little bit more pause than fading J. Like I'm in
Speaker 3: on JJ, but I just sometimes like I'm fully in
Speaker 3: on Ashon Gents this year, Like I it's hard for
Speaker 3: me to pass up him to take JJ because I'm like,
Speaker 3: I could get AJ Brown in round two.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I love the comment you made about the touchdowns too.
Speaker 5: You know, we have a very short memory when it
Speaker 5: comes to that stuff, and he wasn't that bad if
Speaker 5: he scores a couple more touchdowns, and maybe Kyler Murray's
Speaker 5: the answer to that. But if you pile on top
Speaker 5: of that the fact that the discount we're getting maybe
Speaker 5: the best discount we're going to see on Justin Jefferson
Speaker 5: over his fantasy career for quite a few more years,
Speaker 5: if this Murray thing works out, or if they fix
Speaker 5: the quarterback position, this is quite the price we're getting.
Speaker 5: He went for forty three or forty four on Saturday
Speaker 5: in The King's Classic. That feels cheap considering there's about
Speaker 5: six seven guys that went ahead of him.
Speaker 3: So did I throw a couple of stats at you
Speaker 3: that I just I was trying to remember them as
Speaker 3: I was talking.
Speaker 1: I got I found him now on my doc.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Second fewest fantasy points per target amongst all wide receivers
Speaker 3: last year, lowest end zone catch rate in all of
Speaker 3: football last year, fifth.
Speaker 1: Lowest catchable target rate.
Speaker 3: And JJ McCarthy and Justin Jefferson had the lowest passer
Speaker 3: rating of any quarterback wide receiver duo in the NFL.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Even if Kyler is what the haters think he.
Speaker 1: Is, it's not going to be as bad as it
Speaker 1: was with JJ.
Speaker 3: So I yeah, you're not paying Justin Jefferson a first
Speaker 3: round price for him to be a little bit better
Speaker 3: than he was last year.
Speaker 1: But I'm just choosing to.
Speaker 3: Believe in the talent because talent wise, there's an argument
Speaker 3: that he is I think it's chased, but there's an
Speaker 3: argument that he's the best wide receiver in football.
Speaker 5: And I think people you know, misunderstand too. A lot
Speaker 5: of times. If you add four touchdowns in two hundred yards,
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, it catapults him into a different
Speaker 5: zone and things can look different very quickly. So yeah,
Speaker 5: it's It's something I've been fined myself on all off season.
Speaker 5: I've always assumed Murray's going to win the job. But
Speaker 5: this this stuff I've been hearing lately, boy, oh boy,
Speaker 5: it makes me concerned. But okay, we got two more
Speaker 5: situations I want to hit. Let me take these in
Speaker 5: reverse order from the show sheet, because I want to
Speaker 5: give you some time to talk about Buffalo if you
Speaker 5: want to. Let's first hit the Philadelphia Eagles, and we're
Speaker 5: hearing the right things that we want to hear about
Speaker 5: them fixing the offense in Philadelphia because the Patullo experiment
Speaker 5: was brutal. We know that AJ Brown was checked out,
Speaker 5: and this offense in general just looked like a two
Speaker 5: thousand and five offense or a nineteen ninety five offense.
Speaker 2: It just was awful. And now everyone's.
Speaker 5: Saying that what did I hear yesterday? Jordanilot I called
Speaker 5: him an evil genius? Called Sean Mannon an evil genius,
Speaker 5: which is an interesting quote, and I that kind of
Speaker 5: stuff like bounces off me. After a while, I understand
Speaker 5: that that's hype and the kind of things that we
Speaker 5: hear in training camp but it's been more than here
Speaker 5: in the opposite or hearing nothing. I mean, these guys
Speaker 5: are obviously excited about the changes. So are the Eagles
Speaker 5: due for a resurgence? I mean, are these quotes telling
Speaker 5: us that maybe the offense is a little undervalued for
Speaker 5: fantasy football or are we seeing some aging pieces in
Speaker 5: the decline of the Philly offense.
Speaker 3: I I'm very in on Devonti's Smith. I took him
Speaker 3: in our King's Classic I had. I did another mock
Speaker 3: this week where I took him as my wife. I
Speaker 3: got him as my wide receiver too.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 3: I guess he would be my two in the king Classic,
Speaker 3: even though I bought him before a lave. I just
Speaker 3: think Smith is a really talented wide receiver. I think
Speaker 3: the offense now is going to run through him and
Speaker 3: all of that. The thing about the Eagles is it's
Speaker 3: a pendulum, right. They're so good every year except for
Speaker 3: last year, that they're oc changes pretty much yearly, and
Speaker 3: we've seen it swing back and last year was obviously
Speaker 3: the lowest of the low Oh and I do have
Speaker 3: a little bit of concerns, like Jalen Hurd is still
Speaker 3: in my top six quarterbacks, but he's six, because is
Speaker 3: he gonna get back to like I know, he's gonna
Speaker 3: run at least touchdown wise, is he gonna put up
Speaker 3: the passing numbers that made him that when he had
Speaker 3: the QB once.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I gotta see that first with all the different changes
Speaker 3: around and stuff.
Speaker 1: So I've dinged him a little bit. But I still
Speaker 1: have Saquon in my tier two, in my top ten
Speaker 1: running backs, but he's not like where he was up
Speaker 1: last year or the year before that. So I guess
Speaker 1: you could say I'm dinging them.
Speaker 3: A bit, but they're still very close to the elites
Speaker 3: at their position.
Speaker 5: I think so too. And I Davonte Smith boil boy
Speaker 5: I before I started this summer, and I was looking
Speaker 5: at if aj Brown ends up in New England and
Speaker 5: Davante Smith is freed. I blatched onto both of them
Speaker 5: immediately as guys that I really wanted to have a
Speaker 5: lot of. I don't know if that's gonna be accurate
Speaker 5: or not, but I've been dry a lot of both
Speaker 5: of those guys because of that one singular trade. So
Speaker 5: all right, let's talk about Buffalo. This is your team.
Speaker 5: I know you have a show. By the way, plug
Speaker 5: that show for me real quick.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, actually it's gonna be changed. I haven't updated my
Speaker 3: Twitter bio. It's gonna be changing homes this year. Myself
Speaker 3: and Stevie Johnson are starting our own channel now, Legend
Speaker 3: and Guru on YouTube. Our show is now going to
Speaker 3: be called Microphone Mafia, and Donald Jones, another former Bills
Speaker 3: wide receiver, is joining the show as well.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be even bigger and better than last year.
Speaker 3: And we kind of have full say on everything going on,
Speaker 3: so please go like and subscribe and do all that
Speaker 3: stuff to the channel. It's called Legend and Guru. But yeah,
Speaker 3: starting next week actually, so the sixth I think it
Speaker 3: is in August, we're gonna start going live every Thursday
Speaker 3: talking Buffalo Bills football. So if you're a Bills fan,
Speaker 3: or you want fantasy insight, you like Stevee, you just
Speaker 3: want to hear locker room talk from how it was
Speaker 3: when those guys are playing, I think you'll enjoy the show.
Speaker 5: Okay, well, everybody check that out, and let's talk about
Speaker 5: the Bills now. Because I ended up with the weirdest
Speaker 5: occurrence that I could possibly imagine in the King's Classic,
Speaker 5: I don't dislike it, but you could have asked me
Speaker 5: what was going to happen in the snake and this
Speaker 5: would have been like my four hundredth guests. But I
Speaker 5: ended up getting DJ Moore as my wide receiver one
Speaker 5: in the fourth round because I went three straight running backs.
Speaker 5: The value was just staring me in the face at
Speaker 5: running back. So I went DJ Moore as my wide
Speaker 5: receiver one, which I don't feel comfortable with at all.
Speaker 5: But then I turned around the fifth round and Josh
Speaker 5: Allen staring at me, and I'm like, come on.
Speaker 2: Guys, like, what are we doing here? Where you're leaving me?
Speaker 5: Josh Allen in the fifth round, like come on, you
Speaker 5: were on the air. And as soon as I I'm serious,
Speaker 5: And as soon as I took Josh Allen, the room
Speaker 5: kind of chuckled because we heard you explode.
Speaker 2: Oh here we go, Drews.
Speaker 5: You know, So what do you think about this situation?
Speaker 5: This combination of Alan and Moore and a lot of
Speaker 5: people hate Moore. Boy, it is really hard to give
Speaker 5: a pro DJ Moore take on Twitter and not get
Speaker 5: ripped to shreds. I know you're a DJ Moore fan,
Speaker 5: What do you think about this? Combination of these two
Speaker 5: getting put together for the season.
Speaker 3: I will be John snow standing there with the sword
Speaker 3: watching the cavalry come at me when it comes to
Speaker 3: DJ Moore, and I know there's more fans than just me,
Speaker 3: But talking about the show I do with Stevie Johnson.
Speaker 3: A huge talking point last year before the trade deadline
Speaker 3: and then obviously after and into the offseason was like
Speaker 3: who should the Bills go after? And there was the
Speaker 3: pie and this guy names like AJ Brown and Justin
Speaker 3: Jefferson when we thought he was unhappy and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: But the one that I kept saying over and over
Speaker 3: again was DJ Moore. And I know people could say, oh,
Speaker 3: he was gonna get caught, the Bills shouldn't have sent
Speaker 3: the second all of that, I don't care about that
Speaker 3: when we come when it comes to fantasy. I also,
Speaker 3: to be honest with you, Drew, don't care about it
Speaker 3: when it comes to real life because you have Josh
Speaker 3: Allen in his prime. If you got to overpay little
Speaker 3: bit to try to get you over that home to
Speaker 3: get a Super Bowl, it is worth it.
Speaker 1: No one's gonna care about five years from now if
Speaker 1: you win a suit.
Speaker 3: Look, I'm a Knicks fan and my office is now
Speaker 3: filled with Knick stuff.
Speaker 1: They could go to eighty two this year. I do
Speaker 1: not care. It's just about winning, right, And I.
Speaker 3: Think DJ Moore is going to help them, and I
Speaker 3: think he is going to be a fantastic fit with
Speaker 3: Josh Allen for a couple of reasons. For one, something
Speaker 3: I kept saying a lot last year was I don't
Speaker 3: think Dj Moore I was wrong coming.
Speaker 1: Into the year because they remember coming into the year,
Speaker 1: they were like, they're struggling to figure out how to
Speaker 1: use DJ Moore.
Speaker 3: And I was like, if a mine as good as
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson can't figure out how to use DJ Moore,
Speaker 3: I'm concerned. But he wasn't a good fit because Ben
Speaker 3: Johnson's system is one that relies on like you being.
Speaker 1: Where you have to be when you were supposed to
Speaker 1: be there.
Speaker 3: So I knows DJ Moore's strong suit. He's more of
Speaker 3: an improviser. You know who's a big improviser, Josh Allen.
Speaker 3: Like I think when Josh does his scrambling and he's
Speaker 3: by time in the pocket with his legs, his first, second,
Speaker 3: and third thought is probably going to be where is DJ.
Speaker 3: But on top of that, let's look into it a
Speaker 3: little bit further, right, Coleson Lovelin was the Bears leading
Speaker 3: overall receiver in the playoffs. But you know who had
Speaker 3: more yards than Roma Dunsa and Luther Burden.
Speaker 1: Dj Moore.
Speaker 3: So when the games mattered the most, he also had
Speaker 3: more targets in the playoffs than he had in any
Speaker 3: game in the regular season. So when the games mattered
Speaker 3: the most, they still trusted DJ Moore. On top of that,
Speaker 3: I went and I looked at DJ Moore's production from
Speaker 3: last year.
Speaker 1: Well, for one, he so he did.
Speaker 3: He struggled when they threw the ball in under two
Speaker 3: point five seconds, which is a lot what I was
Speaker 3: talking about, right, the quick on schedule stuff. He struggled there.
Speaker 3: But when they held the ball for two point five
Speaker 3: or more seconds, he was the leading receiver on the
Speaker 3: Chicago Bears. Josh Allen his lowest point of ever throwing
Speaker 3: the ball. An average time to throw is two point
Speaker 3: nine seconds.
Speaker 1: Josh likes to hold the ball.
Speaker 3: Josh is going to give DJ more time to get open.
Speaker 3: And on top of that, let's look at the situation, right,
Speaker 3: Dj Moore.
Speaker 1: Two seasons with Joe.
Speaker 3: Brady, he had one hundred and eighteen targets and one
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty three targets he went for over eleven
Speaker 3: hundred yards of both of them with very poor quarterback
Speaker 3: play in Carolina last year, he rated better out wide
Speaker 3: and downfield than anyone the Bills had.
Speaker 1: He rated very well from the slot as well.
Speaker 3: He struggled from the backfield, which, okay, who cares about that?
Speaker 3: But I just think styles where I think we make
Speaker 3: a big error in this Drew is taking past results
Speaker 3: and spinning them.
Speaker 1: Toward forward, right, Like I've seen a lot of people.
Speaker 3: Say stuff like, well, he hasn't been a top twenty
Speaker 3: five wide receiver in points per game in this many years. Okay,
Speaker 3: he's got a better quarterback than he had. Caleb Williams
Speaker 3: is bottom four and accurate throws in catchuble passes each of.
Speaker 5: The last Williams he had a horrible year throwing the
Speaker 5: football despite the help from Ben Johnson and his receivers.
Speaker 3: The highs are so high with Cayleb Williams that I
Speaker 3: think people overlook that the lows are very very.
Speaker 1: Low and that he misses. He's that NBA player that
Speaker 1: will miss a layup. He's Josh Hart.
Speaker 3: He'll miss a layup, but at the buzzer he'll hit
Speaker 3: that three with a hen in his face.
Speaker 1: You know that is Caleb Williams as of now.
Speaker 3: But I think the situation there's less target competition, there's
Speaker 3: a quarterback that he fits better with, there's an OC
Speaker 3: that he's.
Speaker 1: A play caller I should say not.
Speaker 3: And now a head coach though that hand picked this
Speaker 3: guy that worked with him and said I want this
Speaker 3: guy here. So to me, all of the situation is
Speaker 3: just air for a big, resurgent year from DJ Moore.
Speaker 1: I have him.
Speaker 3: I think it's my wide receiver sixteen, but his ADP
Speaker 3: is wide receiver twenty seven, So I could get another
Speaker 3: wide receiver or running back where I have him ranked,
Speaker 3: and then a round later still get DJ Moore.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you're familiar with football guy Jason Wood,
Speaker 5: but he does a lot of our projections over at
Speaker 5: Football Guys, and one of the things he's been pounding
Speaker 5: on base camp privately is just that he doesn't see
Speaker 5: how he gets below one hundred and twenty targets. And
Speaker 5: that's how I see it too. He's got to get
Speaker 5: at least one hundred and twenty and it may go
Speaker 5: beyond that. So I've always said, when you have a
Speaker 5: player like AJ Brown or DJ Bohrer and they get
Speaker 5: in the best situation they've ever had in their career
Speaker 5: for a quarterback, you just got to take a chance
Speaker 5: on him. And even if you end up being wrong,
Speaker 5: I don't want to have no DJ Moore or no
Speaker 5: AJ Brown or no DeVante Smith when they get the
Speaker 5: best situation they've ever had.
Speaker 3: To add to it, I've seen a lot of people
Speaker 3: be like, well, the Bills are run heavy offense, they
Speaker 3: don't like to throw out wide a lot. One I
Speaker 3: think that was situational. Let's look at who their outside
Speaker 3: wide receivers were the last two years. But two, I
Speaker 3: always say this, I don't have sources in one Bill's drive,
Speaker 3: but I talk to a lot of people who do.
Speaker 1: And the thing that I heard, like when I was
Speaker 1: out in.
Speaker 3: Buffalo in April, numerous people or at Super Bowl, like
Speaker 3: I had this conversation numerous times where yeah, the mc
Speaker 3: dermott had a lot more say on the op like
Speaker 3: he would meet with Brady each week.
Speaker 1: Is what I was told.
Speaker 3: And would I want the offense to game plan this
Speaker 3: week to look like this? I wanted to look like this.
Speaker 3: I wanted to look like this and h it.
Speaker 1: Joe Brady has Look, we're gonna know very early if.
Speaker 3: He was a liar or not, but Joe Bray everything
Speaker 3: Joe Brady has said since he's become the head coach,
Speaker 3: We're gonna be more aggressive. We're gonna take more shots downfield.
Speaker 3: I want to move guys around more. It's all different
Speaker 3: than what we've seen the last two years.
Speaker 2: Excellent.
Speaker 5: Love hearing that because my King's Classic season is riding
Speaker 5: on it. But I was excited to hear your excitement
Speaker 5: on the on the air waves when I pulled that move,
Speaker 5: because I certainly am not a snake draft guy. You know,
Speaker 5: my snakes are never that great. Although last year I
Speaker 5: had my chance to do it and my team fell apart. Anyway,
Speaker 5: nobody cares. Thank you so much for the breakdown on
Speaker 5: all of these training camp spots. I want to leave
Speaker 5: everyone with a couple of guys that you like personally
Speaker 5: that you're drafting a lot of or that are your guys.
Speaker 5: And then I also want to hear the other side
Speaker 5: of the coin, who are a couple of guys that
Speaker 5: you're fading right now? And you can just say hey,
Speaker 5: I'm straight up fading these guys period, or by adp
Speaker 5: your call on either side. There, give me a couple
Speaker 5: guys you like right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, DJ Moore was gonna be a big one, but
Speaker 3: we just spoke about him.
Speaker 1: Base Jall. Tuton is my guy this year. Just trust
Speaker 1: the Liam Cohen system.
Speaker 3: Last year etn Or Ashan basically was left for dead
Speaker 3: and then finished as the top thirteen running back. The
Speaker 3: year before that, Bucky Irving was a league winner. The
Speaker 3: year before that, Karen Williams was a league winner. I
Speaker 3: just trust the system and I trust the talent in
Speaker 3: two in there. So that is my guy. But I
Speaker 3: really like Trevon Henderson, still Omari and Hampton ash If
Speaker 3: you were drafted last year as a running back in
Speaker 3: on you, I'm gonna throw a few. I like Isaiah
Speaker 3: likely a lot, Malik Willis as a later round pick.
Speaker 3: Jackson Dart is my guy at quarterback. I like McLaurin
Speaker 3: a good amount. As for fades, it always comes down
Speaker 3: to costs, right, And a lot of the guys that
Speaker 3: I was planning on fading are becoming more popular fades.
Speaker 1: But like, I'm not in on CMC this year. I'm
Speaker 1: not in that much on h N.
Speaker 3: Although he's starting devond that is, he's starting to get
Speaker 3: to a point where it's like, Okay, maybe it is
Speaker 3: worth taking a shot on him.
Speaker 1: I don't want Breze Hall. I don't want Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 1: What is the theme here?
Speaker 3: I don't want to be tied to bad offenses that
Speaker 3: could make a quarterback change late in the year.
Speaker 5: Boy, I hear that, and I ended up with Breese
Speaker 5: Hall in the third round because I just thought it
Speaker 5: was too late for him to be still sitting there.
Speaker 5: But gosh, I don't feel good about it. I do
Speaker 5: not want to be in on the Jets this year. Man,
Speaker 5: oh man, take that lesson to heart everybody. Sometimes you
Speaker 5: just have to make it simple. Go for good offenses,
Speaker 5: good quarterbacks, good play callers. Thank you again for coming
Speaker 5: on man. You know, enjoyed seeing you this past weekend
Speaker 5: and always enjoy talking ball with you. Really informative episode
Speaker 5: here for everybody. Just people where they can find you
Speaker 5: and where your work is.
Speaker 3: Yeah at Michael Lefflorio on Twitter or x whatever you
Speaker 3: call it, Instagram. You could catch me over at NFL
Speaker 3: Network doing Insiders. Fantasy Live is coming back in a
Speaker 3: couple of weeks, and then a lot over at Rotaballer
Speaker 3: and Serious XM as well. I'm doing Saturday shows there
Speaker 3: right now, but always you know, jumping on for drafts
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, so lots of different places you
Speaker 3: could catch me talking this fake game that we love
Speaker 3: so much.
Speaker 5: We do love it and we love hearing you talk
Speaker 5: about it. So thank you again to Michael af Florio
Speaker 5: for being here on Discussions with Drew. It's been another
Speaker 5: fun episode and I hope you got a lot out
Speaker 5: of it. Training camps are rolling, things are moving fast.
Speaker 5: Stay right here at the Auction Brief to keep up
Speaker 5: with all of it as we go throughout the rest
Speaker 5: of the off season. Thanks again to Michael Florio. And
Speaker 5: that's going to do it for another week of discussions
Speaker 5: with Drue. All right, that's going to wrap up another
Speaker 5: week of discussions with Drew as we strive to talk
Speaker 5: with the smartest people in the business every single week.
Speaker 5: Don't forget to tune in Thursday morning for my solo
Speaker 5: time and the Auction Brief. Mike, Thank you so much
Speaker 5: for joining us this week. I'll talk to you real soon.
Speaker 5: The Auction Brief is adjourned.
Speaker 4: The Auction Brief is adjourn that'll do it for this
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