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<v Speaker 1>You'll be away five seventeen. Do you want to report

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<v Speaker 1>a UFO.

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<v Speaker 2>Hanging in We don't want to report every thirty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you wish to report a.

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<v Speaker 1>UFO over hey, we want to one of those areas

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one. Do you wish to find a report of

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<v Speaker 1>any kind of it?

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds time areas

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<v Speaker 3>thirty one me neither there.

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<v Speaker 1>See if it was anybody above us to pass us,

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<v Speaker 1>like thirty seconds ago, we were sending one top of

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<v Speaker 1>golf negative, okay, OFFI the UFO.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's murder two nine o'clock. Yes, if you passed

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<v Speaker 3>over God, I don't know what it was, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>from at least to three thousand feet above us.

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<v Speaker 1>See, I passed right over.

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<v Speaker 3>The top of us.

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety one one.

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<v Speaker 2>You just called both to be be four rest they're

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<v Speaker 2>after staying. The airplanes.

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<v Speaker 3>Here to God on an unidentified object every liberty or

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<v Speaker 3>call or calm on an unidentified flying object.

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<v Speaker 1>A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. Wherever in the

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<v Speaker 1>is the UFO Chronicles podcast. Jen is our guest tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>calling from North Carolina, and Jen will be starting with

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<v Speaker 1>her UFO sightings, and then she will be sharing a

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<v Speaker 1>tragic account of a sister and the possible use of

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<v Speaker 1>black magic over her and the events that led to

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<v Speaker 1>to continue running. Now on with the show, Hello Jen,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to the show. Thank you, Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>joining us today. And you're calling from North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Wonderful. Okay, Now, Jen, you have some UFO and paranormal

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<v Speaker 1>experiences to share with us. Would you like start the beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>Please, yes, I'll start. Let's the us post sighting. I've

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<v Speaker 2>had two actually, and they happened in the same area,

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<v Speaker 2>which was it was a highway that I used to

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<v Speaker 2>drive because my fiance worked out in the low community.

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<v Speaker 2>In this community, right after ten pm, you would barely

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<v Speaker 2>see any cars, like you wouldn't see anything in the highway.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be pitch blacks. And I was just driving

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<v Speaker 2>down the road and all I saw was a big

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<v Speaker 2>ball of light coming by the side of the highway.

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<v Speaker 2>And this fall of light was almost at the same

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<v Speaker 2>speed of my car, and I just looked at it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was not trying to look at it because

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<v Speaker 2>I was still driving and I didn't want to get

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<v Speaker 2>too distracted. I thought it was an airplane or a

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<v Speaker 2>helicopter or something, but it was just odd because it

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<v Speaker 2>was so low, and I have never seen an airplane

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<v Speaker 2>or other type of aircraft just fly that low. So

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<v Speaker 2>there was like right above some trees. Because on the

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<v Speaker 2>side of the highway all there is our tree. So

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<v Speaker 2>I head to my fiancee job to pick him up

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<v Speaker 2>and I tell him about it. By this time, it's

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<v Speaker 2>already like eleven thirty pm. And we get back on

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<v Speaker 2>that same highway because we have to get home. And

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<v Speaker 2>when we get on it, I'm telling people about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and out of the nowhere, that same ball of flight

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<v Speaker 2>comes by like a the car and it's doing the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing, like it's traveling. What's the car at the

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<v Speaker 2>same speed. I tell him, look at it. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>see that? Do you see what I'm saying? And he's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I see that, And we were trying to record it,

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<v Speaker 2>and as soon as he told me I'm a record,

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<v Speaker 2>it was almost like it hurt us or something, because

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<v Speaker 2>it just like disappearing, like all you saw it was

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<v Speaker 2>just red light, like just go up and then it

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<v Speaker 2>was just gone. Like we didn't see it moving forward

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<v Speaker 2>or backwards. It was like it just disappeared like in dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh my god, did you see that?

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<v Speaker 2>And he was like, yeah, I saw that too, And

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<v Speaker 2>we were kind of laughing about it because we just

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<v Speaker 2>thought we were seeing things or I don't know, we

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<v Speaker 2>were not really understanding what we were seeing. So a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of months went by and the same thing happened

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<v Speaker 2>a different nights. We saw that same type of light,

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<v Speaker 2>and this time it was a smaller light in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle and several other circular lights around it, and it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't like big as an airplane, but it wasn't as

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<v Speaker 2>small as a helicopter, and the shape was weird. So

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<v Speaker 2>I told him the same thing. This time. He was

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<v Speaker 2>in the car already and we were heading back home,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was the same time, like eleven thirty, and

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<v Speaker 2>I told him, look, it's that the same thing we

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<v Speaker 2>saw and he's like, no, that's something different, but that's matter.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not hell cafter, that's my airplane. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't look like an airplane. It sort of did

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing, like it just covered almost over some

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<v Speaker 2>trees as we were driving by, and then it moved

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<v Speaker 2>forward with like to see that the car was driving,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it just disappeared like it was like it

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<v Speaker 2>went up and just disappears like you don't see nothing else.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was just weird, like the feeling inside the

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<v Speaker 2>car was here, like the radio was like buzzing a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit, like if the signal was going in and out.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so those decidings or I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>they were, but those two days were really weird.

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<v Speaker 1>So the first time you saw the border light that

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<v Speaker 1>also was running parallel with your car.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like it was side by side, like it was

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<v Speaker 2>like it was keeping up with the car almost.

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<v Speaker 1>How far away from your car would you said it was?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it on the passionate side or the driver's side?

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<v Speaker 2>So I was driving, it was on the passenger side.

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<v Speaker 1>And how far would you would you have said it

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<v Speaker 1>was from your car?

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't that far because the highway is just one

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<v Speaker 2>long road basically, and on the side of this highways streets,

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<v Speaker 2>So the trees from the highway are not that far

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<v Speaker 2>obb really like ten fifteen twenty feet.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's not not that far okay, So from the

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<v Speaker 1>from the trees and the road would there have been

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<v Speaker 1>is there that grass in between Tweina area?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's just like the railings of the highway the

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<v Speaker 2>trees and delicate in the road.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, so yeah it was. It was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>close then. And the second time that night you saw it,

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<v Speaker 1>it behaved the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like it was hovered, like it was like keeping

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<v Speaker 2>up with the car. But like saying like almost got

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<v Speaker 2>a steel paste because you didn't see it move, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was keeping up with the car, and it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was both on the same stretch as the highway.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was on the same stretch as a highway,

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<v Speaker 2>because it was it just happened in that highway when

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<v Speaker 2>we were heading to his job and when we were

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<v Speaker 2>coming back, like it, those were the only two times

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<v Speaker 2>people saw the same thing at the same time, and

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<v Speaker 2>you just couldn't believe what we were seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a route you travel quite often.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was only for his job, so now he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't work there anymore, so we don't really go there

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<v Speaker 2>as often as he used to. But when he did, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we would go, you know, all week, okay, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then along that route is is it just predominantly trees.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just trees and then exits to the roads.

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<v Speaker 2>But the towns surrounding that highway are very rural, so

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<v Speaker 2>even when you get off of the highway, it's still

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<v Speaker 2>pitched black, like there's fairly any streetlights or anything, so

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<v Speaker 2>very raw.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, there wouldn't be many buildings.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, like there aren't really many buildings, and.

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<v Speaker 1>This is in North Carolina. Yeah, and you said there

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<v Speaker 1>was a funny atmosphere in the car.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like you felt you felt weird, like you felt

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<v Speaker 2>something weird, like when you looked at it, you knew

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't an airplane. You to sell the weird energy

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<v Speaker 2>or something. Because the radio started buzzing, and we usually

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<v Speaker 2>just played the radio, and it started buzzing. When all

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff was happening, we were looking at this and

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<v Speaker 2>we kept saying, do you see that? And we were like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I see that, and then that's when the radio would

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<v Speaker 2>start buzzing and out of slight, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>What color would the balls a light?

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<v Speaker 2>Red? It was a red and yellow tint, and the

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<v Speaker 2>color of you really couldn't tell that there was even

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<v Speaker 2>a color on it. That was the thing that you

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<v Speaker 2>would mainly see the light the balls a light, but

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<v Speaker 2>you would see like if they.

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<v Speaker 1>Were on something, and was the light illuminating any part

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<v Speaker 1>of your car or the surrounding area of the trees,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell because the trees were up high, like I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>on the dinner, but at the top of the trees.

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<v Speaker 2>So we were trying to look what that light was

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<v Speaker 2>attached to.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, you're trying to watch. You're trying to watch

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<v Speaker 1>where you're going as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're trying to drive and that crack. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>like we were we were just in shocked because it

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<v Speaker 2>did the same thing. Both of the times we saw

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of hubbed and then it just disappeared.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the third time you saw it, it looked

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit different. Yeah, it had.

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<v Speaker 2>The first time we saw just one light that the

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<v Speaker 2>second time we saw one light in the middle and

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<v Speaker 2>tiny lights around it.

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<v Speaker 1>But the third time you saw it didn't follow the car.

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<v Speaker 2>It just stayed there. It just stayed there, like we

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<v Speaker 2>just saw it from a distance. Literally, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>is that the same thing? And we just saw it,

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<v Speaker 2>and as soon as we said, is that's the same thing,

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<v Speaker 2>And we always try to record it, take picture, Like

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<v Speaker 2>and have you ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Heard of any other reports in that area of something

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<v Speaker 1>very similar?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like you know, other people and Facebook groups or

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<v Speaker 2>things like that from local areas, or you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>friends or neighbors talk about saying things out in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I don't live out in the rural community.

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<v Speaker 2>I live in I guess the city. So where I

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<v Speaker 2>live there are buildings and a lot of street lights

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<v Speaker 2>and everything. So it was just when we went out

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<v Speaker 2>there that I would see everything page black at night

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, the town was so small, there was

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<v Speaker 2>barely people out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you certainly see some strange things in the rural communities.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So that was that's why it was so weird

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<v Speaker 2>because I had never seen that, Like where I lived

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<v Speaker 2>out in the city, I have never seen something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And did it scare you all?

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<v Speaker 2>It was an eerie feeling like it was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>scary because you couldn't tell what it was in the

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<v Speaker 2>part that kind of like made me feel weird was

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that it was keeping up with the car

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<v Speaker 2>side my side.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I've had I've had a few guests on

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<v Speaker 1>in the past. That report reported some very you know,

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<v Speaker 1>things very similar, whether whether it's the light has been

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<v Speaker 1>So they seem to be whatever, you know, whatever these

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<v Speaker 1>driving up and down?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it's almost like they can hear you. That

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<v Speaker 2>was the part that would freak it out because every

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<v Speaker 2>and we'd try to get our phone on the camera,

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<v Speaker 2>it would.

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<v Speaker 1>Disappear, would disappear.

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<v Speaker 2>We would be like, where did it go? And it

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<v Speaker 2>was gone. You didn't see the light on.

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<v Speaker 1>One doesn't want to be filmed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So that was the part I was like, that's

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<v Speaker 2>not an airplane or a helicopter. That's something weird because

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<v Speaker 2>it's like it hurt us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I wouldn't think a helicopter a plane would be

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<v Speaker 1>flying flying that low so close to the freeway and

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<v Speaker 1>especially trees.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it was literally above the trees and it

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<v Speaker 2>was just there like keeping up with the car. And

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<v Speaker 2>we both saw it because I kept asking my fiance

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<v Speaker 2>and like do you see that? And she say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I see it, Like I mean, it looked a sellous.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always good to have someone to witness it with.

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<v Speaker 2>You, yeah, because people don't believe you, like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think you're like kind of something else. There's no I

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<v Speaker 2>know his father.

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<v Speaker 1>It's usually the way, you know, if they haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>even themselves, you know, it's hard for people to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of accept it, and especially if you haven't got video evidence,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because that's what people want these days. They

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<v Speaker 1>want pictures, they want video to believe you. But unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>it's just not the not the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's the part that's scary because I think

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people see it seepings, and because you

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<v Speaker 2>can't take a picture of it because they just appear,

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, it's just stuck with that memory.

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<v Speaker 1>That's wonderful, Jen. Would you like to move on to

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<v Speaker 1>your paranormal experiences please?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. So one story I'd like to share with you

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<v Speaker 2>is the one that was recent. So just like a

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<v Speaker 2>brief history about me, I've it seems a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>paranormals into my life. I can run from five years

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<v Speaker 2>old until now as an adult, I'm twenty six. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going through twenty six and yeah, all of my life

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<v Speaker 2>out seen. Have no real explanations about. This story that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to share is about my sister. I grew

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<v Speaker 2>up with my sister. We were three years apart, and

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<v Speaker 2>it all started into thousand and nine. So in two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and nine, my sister met a guy at a

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<v Speaker 2>party that she went to. At the time, she was

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<v Speaker 2>a teenager, she was in high school and she went

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<v Speaker 2>with a group of friendstance party and she met this person.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom was very upset that he went to this party.

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<v Speaker 2>So when she got home, they were going to have

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<v Speaker 2>a big fight, and my sister didn't want to argue

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<v Speaker 2>with her. So instead of coming home, she decided to

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<v Speaker 2>go with this guy that she met at this party

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<v Speaker 2>because I guess she just felt like it was better

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<v Speaker 2>to do that than to argue with my mom. So

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<v Speaker 2>she left with this guy and we were looking for her.

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<v Speaker 2>We called the Belief because you couldn't find her. And

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<v Speaker 2>like a couple of days later, she called us and

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<v Speaker 2>came back home, said, Hey, I'm with my boyfriend. Don't worry,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to come home. I'll be I'm fine. So

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<v Speaker 2>my mom and my dad, you know, they felt fun

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<v Speaker 2>belief because she checked up on that with us, and

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<v Speaker 2>we were just happy to have her back from her.

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<v Speaker 2>So she came back home and she said that she

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<v Speaker 2>was with her boyfriend, which at the time was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of weird to me because she would always tell me everything,

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<v Speaker 2>and she never told me about a boyfriend. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>why I knew something weird was going on over me.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's when I told her. You know, after she

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<v Speaker 2>came and settled in and my parents were around, I

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<v Speaker 2>asked him, I'm like, what boyfriend are you talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I didn't know he had a boyfriend, and she

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<v Speaker 2>was like, yeah, he's not really my boyfriend. Like, I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's going to be my boyfriend, but I'm met

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<v Speaker 2>him at this party and yeah, we just started talking.

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<v Speaker 2>So he tells me he likes me. I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>like him like that, but you know, I'm talking to him.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, okay, whatever. You know, that was

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<v Speaker 2>her thing. You know, she likes to hanging out with friends,

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<v Speaker 2>and it wasn't weird for her to say that to

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<v Speaker 2>So a little bit of light beats go by and

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<v Speaker 2>she tells my mom that this boyfriend wants to come

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<v Speaker 2>over to the house because he wants to ask their

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<v Speaker 2>permission to you know, start visiting her and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they can go on base and things like that. So

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<v Speaker 2>my mom was like, okay, and you can tell him

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<v Speaker 2>to come over. He brings his mom with him and

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<v Speaker 2>his older brother and they comes with him, supposedly, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to vouch for him, to say that he's a good person.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead it better and at the time, my sister was sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said and his family said that he was eighteen,

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, my parents were like, okay, he's not

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<v Speaker 2>that much older, right, it's aren't they're you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>rather them date with them knowing instead of her like

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<v Speaker 2>running off them. So months went by and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they were dating. He would come over the house and

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<v Speaker 2>things just doesn't get a little weird, started to get

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<v Speaker 2>manipulard care he started to really control her life. She

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<v Speaker 2>was still in high school and he just started like

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<v Speaker 2>really taking people over her, like she just became a

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<v Speaker 2>different person. And then she got pregnant. She decided to

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<v Speaker 2>run away with him again, and she ran away with him,

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<v Speaker 2>but this time she came back a couple of days

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<v Speaker 2>later because she called my mom crying, saying that she

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<v Speaker 2>didn't feel good, that something bad happened to her, that

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't know what was happening to her, that she

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<v Speaker 2>just didn't feel good, and that she needed to come

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<v Speaker 2>back home. So we came in and take her up,

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<v Speaker 2>and she didn't really tell us what happened, but she

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<v Speaker 2>just said she didn't feel good. So later on a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years later, we found out that she had

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<v Speaker 2>lost the baby that night. And the reason why she

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<v Speaker 2>lost that baby was because this guy that she met

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<v Speaker 2>placed a hex on her the night that she lost

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<v Speaker 2>his baby. His family helped him. His family helped create

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<v Speaker 2>some text, some concoction, and they put it in the

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<v Speaker 2>food that they cooked to her, and when she ate

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<v Speaker 2>that food, she lost the child. And this baby was

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<v Speaker 2>going to be his first son. And when she lost

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<v Speaker 2>his baby, she was telling him like, you know, what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on with her body, like she contain and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she's not feeling good. And he is very nonchalant about it.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't seek medical attention. He just you know, tells

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<v Speaker 2>us to you know, get over it. It's normal, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just your regular period. You're fine. But no, like from

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<v Speaker 2>that day on is when a demon was basically attached

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<v Speaker 2>to her, and that demon was placed by him because

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<v Speaker 2>the type of work that they did on her, or

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<v Speaker 2>which craft they did on her, was where they created

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of doll, like I guess, like a little doll,

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<v Speaker 2>and they buried it in a different country in a graveyard.

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<v Speaker 2>And what this would make her do is fall madly

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<v Speaker 2>in love with him and to do anything that he said,

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<v Speaker 2>like just becomes submissive to do anything that he said.

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<v Speaker 2>And she was not that type of person. She was

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<v Speaker 2>not the type of person that would let some bon

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<v Speaker 2>dis her or treat her in a type of way

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<v Speaker 2>that wasn't brain. And he did all of that, He

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<v Speaker 2>treated her really that they had two kids, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>years went by and eventually there were some problems that

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<v Speaker 2>have and he have to get spent to Mexico. When

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<v Speaker 2>he was sent to Mexico, he was still able to

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<v Speaker 2>control learn. He would still after all her money. He

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<v Speaker 2>would still just control her life, like she would have

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<v Speaker 2>to take him to the groceres, take him, take him

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<v Speaker 2>on the phone. She would have to call him. She

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<v Speaker 2>would go to the social when she would go to

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<v Speaker 2>the grocery store, and he would have to be in

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<v Speaker 2>the phone to listen for shopping and be in video call.

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<v Speaker 2>Because he was just that controlling, like he didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>her to talk to anybody, not even us, her family,

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<v Speaker 2>her parents, nobody. And he got this way because we

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<v Speaker 2>would always tell her to leave him. We would always

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<v Speaker 2>tell her like why are you with him? Why do

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<v Speaker 2>you let him treat you that way? Like it's not right.

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<v Speaker 2>He was physically abusive. He he was abusive towards her,

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<v Speaker 2>towards their kids, and she could just never leave him,

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<v Speaker 2>like it was almost like she was crazy about him.

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<v Speaker 2>By crazy innocent that she was literally like losing her mind.

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<v Speaker 2>And two thousand and one twenty one came about, which

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<v Speaker 2>was last year, and that's when he comes in her

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<v Speaker 2>to go visit him, to leave here and to go

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<v Speaker 2>to Mexico, a bout herself to not take the kids

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<v Speaker 2>because he said COVID and he didn't want the kids

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<v Speaker 2>to get sick. So he told her that she needed

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<v Speaker 2>to go, and she didn't really want to go, but

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<v Speaker 2>she had no choice, right. He gave her some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of old tomato that if she didn't go, something was

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen. What that something was, we don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>because she never told us. We just assumed because she

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<v Speaker 2>would never leave her kids or anything. She would take

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<v Speaker 2>her kids everywhere she went. And for her to go

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<v Speaker 2>to another country and visit their dad, like, why wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>she take them? And yeah, COVID was happening at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was getting to the point where it was

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<v Speaker 2>manageable almost, and you know, people were still very precautious.

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<v Speaker 2>And she was a nurse, so as a nerd, she know,

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<v Speaker 2>she knew the precautions she had to take, and she

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<v Speaker 2>She was just not that type of person. She had

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<v Speaker 2>a full time job, she was at this office, she

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<v Speaker 2>had a life outside of him. He just controlled it.

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<v Speaker 2>Still because he wouldn't know the time she would go

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<v Speaker 2>on lunch. He would call her in specific time so

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<v Speaker 2>that she wouldn't communicate with co workers. He would call

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<v Speaker 2>her all throughout the day so she wouldn't be able

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<v Speaker 2>to communicate with us, and if she didn't answer him,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be a whole other side of insults of

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<v Speaker 2>him calling her whatever he wants, and it was just

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<v Speaker 2>a constant thing and he would just stay, Just block him,

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<v Speaker 2>change her number, like, don't listen to him. And it

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<v Speaker 2>was almost like she physically couldn't, so she went by herself.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's when things turn really dark. The day that

424
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<v Speaker 2>she told my mom that she's going, she told her

425
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<v Speaker 2>like a week before she was going to leave, because

426
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<v Speaker 2>she knew that we were going to be opposed to

427
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<v Speaker 2>her going by herself. And the day that she told her,

428
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<v Speaker 2>she's sort of like, Hey, I'm going to leave my

429
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<v Speaker 2>skis with you because you're the person I trust, and

430
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<v Speaker 2>whatever you do or whatever happens to you, don't let

431
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<v Speaker 2>my kids go with their dad, and don't let my

432
00:26:02.319 --> 00:26:04.839
<v Speaker 2>kids go with anybody else. They need to stay with

433
00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:09.720
<v Speaker 2>you and my dad. She avoided me that whole week

434
00:26:10.759 --> 00:26:14.440
<v Speaker 2>that she was getting ready to leave because he knew

435
00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:16.759
<v Speaker 2>I would have done anything I could to convince her

436
00:26:16.920 --> 00:26:20.240
<v Speaker 2>to not leave. And the day that she left, she

437
00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:24.039
<v Speaker 2>left early in the morning, like five am. She didn't

438
00:26:24.160 --> 00:26:27.079
<v Speaker 2>even say goodbye to my mom to look at her,

439
00:26:27.720 --> 00:26:30.279
<v Speaker 2>because it was like she couldn't she couldn't even say

440
00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:33.759
<v Speaker 2>bye to my mom. She just left and said bye

441
00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:35.480
<v Speaker 2>to her when she was getting ready to go in

442
00:26:35.559 --> 00:26:42.400
<v Speaker 2>the car, and it was like we knew she was

443
00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:47.640
<v Speaker 2>never going to come back, because you know, the moment

444
00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:50.799
<v Speaker 2>my mom told her, well, the moment my sister told

445
00:26:50.839 --> 00:26:53.160
<v Speaker 2>my mom, I'm going to go and I'm not going

446
00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:56.559
<v Speaker 2>to take the kids. My mom says that she felt

447
00:26:57.680 --> 00:27:01.759
<v Speaker 2>like death. That all she felt was that that's something

448
00:27:01.920 --> 00:27:06.759
<v Speaker 2>bad was going to happen. And she told her, I

449
00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:10.839
<v Speaker 2>don't want you to go because something horrible, what's going

450
00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:12.759
<v Speaker 2>to happen. I don't know what's gonna happen, but something

451
00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:16.039
<v Speaker 2>sad it's going to happen. And I know how that

452
00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:20.160
<v Speaker 2>man is. That we've seen how angry he could get.

453
00:27:20.359 --> 00:27:23.319
<v Speaker 2>You would see how he would treat her, and we

454
00:27:23.519 --> 00:27:28.440
<v Speaker 2>just we just didn't trust him, and her being with

455
00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:32.920
<v Speaker 2>him in the country by herself was very scary and

456
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:36.640
<v Speaker 2>that's when my mom didn't want her to go. She

457
00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:41.119
<v Speaker 2>was like, no, it's fine, I'll be back, but you know,

458
00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:45.000
<v Speaker 2>just in case I don't come back, I want you

459
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:48.000
<v Speaker 2>to have like take care of my kids. I want

460
00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:50.759
<v Speaker 2>you to be the one responsible for them. I don't

461
00:27:50.839 --> 00:27:52.839
<v Speaker 2>want nobody else.

462
00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:57.519
<v Speaker 3>So she left.

463
00:27:58.640 --> 00:28:00.559
<v Speaker 2>The day she got there, she called him, told her

464
00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:03.400
<v Speaker 2>she got there, that everything was fine, that she was

465
00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:07.400
<v Speaker 2>already with him, and they were getting very close to

466
00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:14.119
<v Speaker 2>the hotel and they met in an island. Didn't meet

467
00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:17.319
<v Speaker 2>in the exact place that he told us she lived at.

468
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:23.160
<v Speaker 2>He traveled to this island to meet her there, and

469
00:28:24.319 --> 00:28:26.640
<v Speaker 2>she landed. She told my mom she was settled in.

470
00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:31.200
<v Speaker 2>A couple of days went by, and that's when he know.

471
00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:35.039
<v Speaker 2>That's the last day that she spoke to my mom.

472
00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Three days after she got there, she called her my

473
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:42.079
<v Speaker 2>mom early in the morning and she said, hey, please

474
00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:45.759
<v Speaker 2>send four hundred dollars. I'm really, really sick and it's

475
00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:51.880
<v Speaker 2>a life or death situation. She sent the money and

476
00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:57.319
<v Speaker 2>then it was him calling her, like my mom asked her,

477
00:28:57.440 --> 00:28:59.200
<v Speaker 2>like what's going on, Like what did he need on

478
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:01.920
<v Speaker 2>me for? And she that I'm sick. I don't know

479
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:04.440
<v Speaker 2>what's wrong. I just feel really sick. I need to

480
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:06.640
<v Speaker 2>go to a doctor, and they're charging a lot of money.

481
00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:11.599
<v Speaker 2>And my mom was like, okay, so she sent the money.

482
00:29:13.480 --> 00:29:18.400
<v Speaker 2>And the very next day is when he started calling

483
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:22.480
<v Speaker 2>my mom with my sister's son. So you would see

484
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:24.680
<v Speaker 2>my sister's number, but it would be him on the

485
00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:29.440
<v Speaker 2>other line, and he would start asking her for more money, saying, Oh,

486
00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:33.079
<v Speaker 2>she's getting worse, she's getting work sick. We're gonna have

487
00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:36.200
<v Speaker 2>to came to the hospital. Like I had to find

488
00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:39.160
<v Speaker 2>a doctor that was a worker here in the hotel.

489
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:42.960
<v Speaker 2>The hotel had a doctor here, and he came to

490
00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:46.400
<v Speaker 2>the room and she said that she has COVID, that

491
00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:51.000
<v Speaker 2>she needs an x lace. When my mom talked to

492
00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:55.200
<v Speaker 2>the supposed doctor and this doctor told her, Yeah, your

493
00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:59.960
<v Speaker 2>daughter's really sick. She's not getting well. We're getting her

494
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:03.200
<v Speaker 2>her I do fluid because she can't keep anything down.

495
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:07.559
<v Speaker 2>And if you really love your daughter, then you're going

496
00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:11.640
<v Speaker 2>to spend two thousand dollars right now, You're going to

497
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:14.839
<v Speaker 2>spend one thousand dollars the next race. Every day, it

498
00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:17.880
<v Speaker 2>was a constant amount of money they would request, and

499
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:19.559
<v Speaker 2>when it got to a point that a moment it's

500
00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:21.240
<v Speaker 2>like I don't have any money, I don't have nothing

501
00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:24.000
<v Speaker 2>else to cohib you, like you're telling me this and that,

502
00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:27.200
<v Speaker 2>but I don't see any pictures of my daughter and videos.

503
00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:29.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't needed to hear her voice. I don't talk

504
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:31.759
<v Speaker 2>to her nothing. And they would say, well, it's because

505
00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:34.880
<v Speaker 2>she can't talk, she said, so it was always excuses.

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<v Speaker 2>But as the callers went on, we try to start

524
00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:59.000
<v Speaker 2>investigating on our own, on ouron because you're not from

525
00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:04.039
<v Speaker 2>that country. We don't know anybody from that country, and

526
00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:08.680
<v Speaker 2>we try to contact the authorities, and the authorities didn't

527
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:10.799
<v Speaker 2>want to do anything because they said that she wasn't

528
00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:15.359
<v Speaker 2>a citizen from that country. The authorities here didn't want

529
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:18.480
<v Speaker 2>to do anything because they said she traveled willingly over

530
00:32:18.519 --> 00:32:21.599
<v Speaker 2>there and that she was with her husband. So while

531
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:26.160
<v Speaker 2>are we worried, So it was constant people we try

532
00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:28.680
<v Speaker 2>to call and talk to to help us to nobody there,

533
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:32.799
<v Speaker 2>and it was all the same excuse, she's with her husband,

534
00:32:33.240 --> 00:32:36.559
<v Speaker 2>she's fine, she's with her husband. He can't right of

535
00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:40.400
<v Speaker 2>her health and she's stay and he can decide what

536
00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:44.480
<v Speaker 2>to do, it's better, et cetera. So we would ask

537
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:48.319
<v Speaker 2>him for a receipt from medication for doctor's appointments. He

538
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:52.720
<v Speaker 2>said they didn't have receipt there which was a lie.

539
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:59.000
<v Speaker 2>So we talked. My mom talked to this doctor that

540
00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:03.079
<v Speaker 2>supposedly came to the hotel room to visit her, and

541
00:33:03.240 --> 00:33:05.720
<v Speaker 2>he tells her, Yeah, you love your daughter, You're gonna

542
00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:08.880
<v Speaker 2>spend this money. I know you guys have cars. I

543
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:12.680
<v Speaker 2>know you guys have a business. You can sell it.

544
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:14.559
<v Speaker 2>You know you can sell it. You can go to

545
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:17.160
<v Speaker 2>the bank and ask for money. And it was always

546
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:19.559
<v Speaker 2>a constant, if you love your daughter, you're gonna spend money.

547
00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:23.799
<v Speaker 2>So at that point we felt like it was a kidnapping,

548
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:28.880
<v Speaker 2>and my mom even told him told her husband, she said,

549
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:33.759
<v Speaker 2>this sounds like a kidnapping. This feels very fishy to me.

550
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:37.559
<v Speaker 2>This feels very weird. And he was like, how could

551
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:41.640
<v Speaker 2>you think that. I'm that's my wife, Like I would

552
00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:44.400
<v Speaker 2>never hurt her. That's the mother of my children. I

553
00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:49.039
<v Speaker 2>love her, et cetera, et cetera. He would tell her

554
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:52.240
<v Speaker 2>weird things throughout the day. He would constantly call her too.

555
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:55.119
<v Speaker 2>He would start calling her every hour, every thirty minutes

556
00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:59.480
<v Speaker 2>and all day long, from eight am until one, two,

557
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:02.519
<v Speaker 2>three more. But you just had to turn the phone

558
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:06.640
<v Speaker 2>off the block and because he would call constantly, and

559
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:08.920
<v Speaker 2>then he would start saying, you need to start praying

560
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:12.679
<v Speaker 2>at three am, you need to start praying at two

561
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:16.000
<v Speaker 2>and am, you need to fast, you don't need to

562
00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:21.079
<v Speaker 2>eat his stace, like just some weird stuff, and nothing

563
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:27.280
<v Speaker 2>was making sense. And at that point her employer got

564
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:29.159
<v Speaker 2>worried because she was supposed to come back at a

565
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:32.360
<v Speaker 2>certain date. And then I start telling them what's going on,

566
00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:36.159
<v Speaker 2>and you know, there's doctors and nurses and stuff, and

567
00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:39.880
<v Speaker 2>they're like, yeah that. They wouldn't directly tell me that's

568
00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:43.719
<v Speaker 2>not COVID, but they would always say that's weird, like

569
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:47.199
<v Speaker 2>that that's not normal for that to happen, or that's

570
00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:51.639
<v Speaker 2>that's something common that happens with that. So, like two

571
00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:55.679
<v Speaker 2>weeks went by. One day you just asked my mom

572
00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:59.159
<v Speaker 2>her husband, do you what would you do if your

573
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:02.320
<v Speaker 2>daughter died? Or what would you do if I told

574
00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:05.599
<v Speaker 2>you your daughter does And my mom said, what do

575
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:07.599
<v Speaker 2>you mean? Like what type of question is that? Like

576
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:10.880
<v Speaker 2>why are you asking me that? And he was like, well,

577
00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:12.639
<v Speaker 2>I just want to know, like what would you think?

578
00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:14.519
<v Speaker 2>So like, what would you say if I told you

579
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:18.280
<v Speaker 2>your daughter died? And she said, well, I would blame you.

580
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:22.119
<v Speaker 2>I would think that you did something to her because

581
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:25.039
<v Speaker 2>you were the last person that she was with, and

582
00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:27.000
<v Speaker 2>you were the person that she went to go seek.

583
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:30.920
<v Speaker 2>And he was like, you always think that about me.

584
00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:35.119
<v Speaker 2>I would never hurt her and all this stuff. And

585
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:38.280
<v Speaker 2>then like three days later after that he called her

586
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:42.039
<v Speaker 2>and told her that she died. Before that day that

587
00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:46.440
<v Speaker 2>it called hers and told us that she died. I

588
00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:50.599
<v Speaker 2>got to see her through video camera. They called me

589
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:55.280
<v Speaker 2>through the application. Watched that and that was the only

590
00:35:55.400 --> 00:35:57.559
<v Speaker 2>form of communication that wanted to you to watch that

591
00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:01.559
<v Speaker 2>in a video. Call me one day just randomly and

592
00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:04.199
<v Speaker 2>they said, this is the doctor that's with her. She's

593
00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:07.239
<v Speaker 2>in the hospital. But the way that the video started

594
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:12.400
<v Speaker 2>was weird because this doctor was walking outside because he

595
00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:16.840
<v Speaker 2>had the camera angle faced up. It was facing him,

596
00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:19.719
<v Speaker 2>but it was based up as he was walking. And

597
00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:24.360
<v Speaker 2>I did she discussed, and I just had a loud

598
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:27.400
<v Speaker 2>noise of a door and then got dark and then

599
00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:30.320
<v Speaker 2>it just got really burnt. And that's when I saw

600
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:36.119
<v Speaker 2>my sister on this hospital. Then I saw two nurses

601
00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:41.800
<v Speaker 2>that were around her, and this doctor just put the

602
00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:45.719
<v Speaker 2>camera on on towards her, facing her, and he would like,

603
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:49.880
<v Speaker 2>talk to your sister. You got five minutes. And I

604
00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:52.440
<v Speaker 2>talked to her, and I was like asked, trying to

605
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:55.840
<v Speaker 2>ask her things like are you okay? Are you in

606
00:36:55.920 --> 00:36:58.639
<v Speaker 2>the hospital, are you you're gonna be safe? And she

607
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:04.760
<v Speaker 2>she looked at me in the camera like she turned

608
00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:09.639
<v Speaker 2>her head when she heard my voice, but her eyes

609
00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:14.079
<v Speaker 2>were like really big and glazed, and she was just shaking,

610
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:17.199
<v Speaker 2>like her head was just shaking from side to side.

611
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:20.800
<v Speaker 2>She saying no. And I will just keep trying to

612
00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:23.480
<v Speaker 2>tell her, you know you're gonna be okay, You're you're

613
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:26.480
<v Speaker 2>fig you need to trust and they say you got COVID,

614
00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:32.280
<v Speaker 2>and she just kept shaking her head no, and she

615
00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:35.320
<v Speaker 2>would just start mumbling his name a lot. She would

616
00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:39.519
<v Speaker 2>just start mumbling and mumbling his name, and I'm trying

617
00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:41.519
<v Speaker 2>to get an answer on her. I would say, you're

618
00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:44.079
<v Speaker 2>gonna be fine, are you okay? And she would just

619
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:47.440
<v Speaker 2>shake her head no. And then that's when the nurse

620
00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:50.320
<v Speaker 2>came by beside her because she was trying to talk

621
00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:53.199
<v Speaker 2>like she was moving her mouth like she was trying

622
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:56.280
<v Speaker 2>to say something. And that's when they're like, oh, she

623
00:37:56.400 --> 00:37:58.119
<v Speaker 2>said she want to touch to her husband, and they

624
00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:01.760
<v Speaker 2>just hanged up the call and that was the last

625
00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:06.519
<v Speaker 2>time I saw her. And then he called us and

626
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:12.039
<v Speaker 2>said that he died through a way that I found

627
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:15.239
<v Speaker 2>out is that my mom called me crying hysterically and

628
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:17.960
<v Speaker 2>like I couldn't even understand what she was saying, and

629
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:20.480
<v Speaker 2>I just had a feeling in my gut that it

630
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:23.840
<v Speaker 2>was about her. So I called him and I'm saying,

631
00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:24.960
<v Speaker 2>why is my mom crying?

632
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:25.239
<v Speaker 3>Was?

633
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:29.760
<v Speaker 2>What's wrong? What happened? And he he just tells me,

634
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:36.880
<v Speaker 2>like all normal, your sisters didn't I already called your

635
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:40.000
<v Speaker 2>mom and dad and told them she died. And I

636
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:43.199
<v Speaker 2>was like why, But I just talked to the nurses

637
00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:45.320
<v Speaker 2>and done this and they said she was farn I

638
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:48.199
<v Speaker 2>just got her. And he was like, well, she's dead.

639
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:55.480
<v Speaker 2>There's nothing else, and he kung up on me. Did

640
00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:58.440
<v Speaker 2>they said he died? Like three hours later, he was

641
00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:00.920
<v Speaker 2>calling us saying that we had had to see her

642
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:05.000
<v Speaker 2>body because she started to think if we wanted the

643
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:08.519
<v Speaker 2>body transported over here, we had to pay thirty thousand

644
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:14.639
<v Speaker 2>dollars and if not, they were going to send ashes

645
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:19.119
<v Speaker 2>because they weren't going to bury her over there, because

646
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:21.119
<v Speaker 2>that's what we wanted for her to get buried over there.

647
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:25.320
<v Speaker 2>And they said no, that she would get cremated, and

648
00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:30.039
<v Speaker 2>he cremated her the very next day, and we kept

649
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:32.960
<v Speaker 2>telling him not to do it, and he didn't. We

650
00:39:33.159 --> 00:39:35.039
<v Speaker 2>told him we wanted to see her body before she

651
00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:39.000
<v Speaker 2>was cremated. He didn't do it. We told him we

652
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:44.079
<v Speaker 2>wanted to see her after she passed, and he video

653
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:48.480
<v Speaker 2>chatted us because all my family was there, my mom

654
00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:51.599
<v Speaker 2>and dad, me and other people were there, and he

655
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:56.599
<v Speaker 2>video chatted us and he put a camera like inside

656
00:39:56.639 --> 00:40:01.280
<v Speaker 2>a box that was glass, like her face was inside

657
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:05.360
<v Speaker 2>would look like a like a coffin, and they was

658
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:09.400
<v Speaker 2>glass over and all you saw was the little square

659
00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:12.760
<v Speaker 2>for the faith, and you couldn't even tell that it

660
00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:14.920
<v Speaker 2>was her face because he just moved the camera so

661
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:20.119
<v Speaker 2>fast and all you saw was like a bruised face.

662
00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:25.719
<v Speaker 2>And then he started screaming saying that we couldn't record

663
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:29.119
<v Speaker 2>what he was showing us, and he ended the call,

664
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:36.920
<v Speaker 2>and that was him supposedly proving to us that it

665
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:43.960
<v Speaker 2>was her. They spent astras from California when they spent

666
00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:47.760
<v Speaker 2>after us, like a week and a half later, and

667
00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:55.360
<v Speaker 2>the death certificated was very weird and mentioned that she

668
00:40:55.480 --> 00:40:59.039
<v Speaker 2>passed some heart attacks, so they told me it was COVID,

669
00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:06.920
<v Speaker 2>And then later on we started digging more stuff because

670
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:09.840
<v Speaker 2>we knew it wasn't Covid. We knew something else happened

671
00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:13.960
<v Speaker 2>because the authorities didn't want to help those who went

672
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:19.000
<v Speaker 2>into the spiritual world and started digging and through other

673
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:24.440
<v Speaker 2>forms of communication. So I contacted a cycic and a

674
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:32.239
<v Speaker 2>medium and people from different backgrounds, different lots of life

675
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:35.880
<v Speaker 2>and the spiritual world that they leave, and all of

676
00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:41.280
<v Speaker 2>these different people told us sing things that it wasn't Covid, that.

677
00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:41.840
<v Speaker 3>It was him.

678
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:46.599
<v Speaker 2>The day that he met her, he said, that's going

679
00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:49.400
<v Speaker 2>to be my goldmine, because the day that he met her,

680
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:54.559
<v Speaker 2>he was already twenty three. He wasn't eighteen. We found

681
00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:57.840
<v Speaker 2>out he was his age when she had her second

682
00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:01.039
<v Speaker 2>child with him, and by the time she was already

683
00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:06.480
<v Speaker 2>like twenty one. And when we found out was like,

684
00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:08.280
<v Speaker 2>how are you this old? When you told us he

685
00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:10.599
<v Speaker 2>was just old when we met her, and he just

686
00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:15.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of brushed it off. But essentially what we found

687
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:21.239
<v Speaker 2>out is that this man has always had an evil

688
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:25.800
<v Speaker 2>plan for my sister. He never saw her as a partner,

689
00:42:26.119 --> 00:42:30.760
<v Speaker 2>his wife as anything. It was always a transaction and

690
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:32.840
<v Speaker 2>the only reason he could control her, and the only

691
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:35.039
<v Speaker 2>way he could control her was by placing this hex

692
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:38.280
<v Speaker 2>on her. And this man also came from a family

693
00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:42.159
<v Speaker 2>that did this stuff. He was raised by a man

694
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:45.440
<v Speaker 2>that could turn into an animal at night. He was

695
00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:50.840
<v Speaker 2>just raised around the early dark things. And essentially he

696
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:54.159
<v Speaker 2>never really found out how she passed, but we were

697
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:56.559
<v Speaker 2>told that she didn't even pass a day that he

698
00:42:56.679 --> 00:43:02.360
<v Speaker 2>told her she passed. She passed months later because what

699
00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:06.199
<v Speaker 2>he did with her, remains are speculated that were sold,

700
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:12.800
<v Speaker 2>are speculated that he was involved in a ritualistic drug cartel,

701
00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:18.000
<v Speaker 2>because there there are organizations that exist like that, and

702
00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:20.599
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know that was a thing. I didn't

703
00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:27.800
<v Speaker 2>know people weren't with cells and things like this to

704
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:34.079
<v Speaker 2>hurt people, and it really ruined people's lives. And that

705
00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:38.199
<v Speaker 2>was I would always not really believe in witchcraft or

706
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:41.840
<v Speaker 2>really believe in the power it held. I would hear

707
00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:47.519
<v Speaker 2>about growing up, you know, people's different stories, but I

708
00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:51.679
<v Speaker 2>had never seen it first him and when I witnessed

709
00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:58.239
<v Speaker 2>it was my sister. It's true, It is very true

710
00:43:58.840 --> 00:44:02.920
<v Speaker 2>that that type of evilly since he ended her, and

711
00:44:03.079 --> 00:44:06.320
<v Speaker 2>now his plan is to still end with anything that

712
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:10.119
<v Speaker 2>has any attachment of us, because he just has his

713
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:16.239
<v Speaker 2>hate in his heart that it almost doesn't stop, and

714
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:20.760
<v Speaker 2>he only works with evil things, with evil spears, with humans.

715
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:20.719
<v Speaker 3>With.

716
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Things that really can take over your mind and body.

717
00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:30.320
<v Speaker 2>If we were not menatally prepared to spiritually prepare me,

718
00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:37.639
<v Speaker 2>we've had to protect ourselves spiritually and physically because he

719
00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:44.119
<v Speaker 2>he has no stopping and I have no doubt in

720
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:47.760
<v Speaker 2>my mind that he is capable to do anything. If

721
00:44:47.800 --> 00:44:51.400
<v Speaker 2>he did it to his life, he's capable to do anything.

722
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:53.880
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's my story.

723
00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:58.280
<v Speaker 1>First of all, I'm really sorry about your sister, and

724
00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:01.440
<v Speaker 1>it's so recently, you know, it didn't happened that long ago. Yeah,

725
00:45:03.239 --> 00:45:04.159
<v Speaker 1>how are the kids now?

726
00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:11.079
<v Speaker 2>There was my parents? They they're safe. They of course,

727
00:45:11.199 --> 00:45:15.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm very sad and depressed most livings, but

728
00:45:16.679 --> 00:45:21.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, kids are smart. They know that something that

729
00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:26.000
<v Speaker 2>happened to their mom and important, but they were trying

730
00:45:26.039 --> 00:45:26.840
<v Speaker 2>to make us believe.

731
00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:27.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

732
00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Sure, I mean a good good thing is you know,

733
00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:31.639
<v Speaker 1>they're safe, they're away, they're away from him, and he

734
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:34.320
<v Speaker 1>sounds like a complete piece of work. And of course,

735
00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:38.480
<v Speaker 1>because it's cross border, it would probably be extremely difficult

736
00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:42.480
<v Speaker 1>to have any form of police intervention. Yeah, and you

737
00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:44.679
<v Speaker 1>and your mother, if you can completely cut ties with

738
00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:45.480
<v Speaker 1>him altogether.

739
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, at the time, he still has to communicate with

740
00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:53.119
<v Speaker 2>the kids, and you know, the whole legal side of

741
00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:56.719
<v Speaker 2>it with their custody. Apparently he still has rights even

742
00:45:56.800 --> 00:46:00.679
<v Speaker 2>if he's not here. So my parents are working through them.

743
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:05.679
<v Speaker 2>So because of that, he still calls them probably like

744
00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:08.719
<v Speaker 2>once a month months every two months, so it's not

745
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:14.519
<v Speaker 2>constant communication. But they still communicate, but it's not it's

746
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:16.760
<v Speaker 2>not been official for them, but he doesn't call them

747
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:20.800
<v Speaker 2>like a loving father, like, oh, worried about how they're doing.

748
00:46:21.199 --> 00:46:23.239
<v Speaker 2>Now he calls them to trying to find out the

749
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:24.599
<v Speaker 2>must You know.

750
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Your parents have full custody.

751
00:46:27.440 --> 00:46:30.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so right now they do. They're just working on

752
00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:34.320
<v Speaker 2>getting it permanently so that they can could tie completely

753
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:34.719
<v Speaker 2>with him.

754
00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the best way. I think your sister had never

755
00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:41.639
<v Speaker 1>mentioned anything that he you know, that he may have

756
00:46:41.800 --> 00:46:44.079
<v Speaker 1>been involved in this this witchcraft.

757
00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:47.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean she would mention it to us. He

758
00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:50.599
<v Speaker 2>did say one time, Well, she had several things she

759
00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:53.199
<v Speaker 2>would say, like she actually didn't get along with his

760
00:46:53.320 --> 00:46:56.559
<v Speaker 2>family and it was because of that because she would

761
00:46:56.599 --> 00:47:01.239
<v Speaker 2>say that she knew that they practiced this witchcraft and

762
00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:04.800
<v Speaker 2>that they did bad things with this cause one of

763
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:08.199
<v Speaker 2>their own family members to lose their mind, like literally

764
00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:12.800
<v Speaker 2>lose their mind. They lost everything. This guy, her husband

765
00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:17.159
<v Speaker 2>would collor while he was over there, and he would

766
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:22.840
<v Speaker 2>say things like my bed was lifted last night, or

767
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:28.679
<v Speaker 2>I saw my uncle turn into a pig. Like it

768
00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:30.199
<v Speaker 2>was very weird stuff.

769
00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:34.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course, because Brudier is still widely practicing there

770
00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:36.400
<v Speaker 1>in Latin America and Mexico, because I think that's where

771
00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:37.119
<v Speaker 1>it originates from.

772
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:41.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like it's very heavy. Apparently in the area he

773
00:47:41.719 --> 00:47:45.079
<v Speaker 2>was very sin and yeah, people can turn into animals,

774
00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:49.840
<v Speaker 2>people can astro project. It's a lot of things that

775
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:54.400
<v Speaker 2>if you never experienced it or see it or even

776
00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:58.000
<v Speaker 2>hear about it, you would never even think it existed,

777
00:47:58.119 --> 00:47:58.320
<v Speaker 2>you know.

778
00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:02.360
<v Speaker 1>That's right. Yeah, but it does. It's the same. It's

779
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:04.400
<v Speaker 1>the same in Southeast Asia. I've spent a lot I've

780
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:06.440
<v Speaker 1>never been in Mexico sort of South America, but I've

781
00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:09.320
<v Speaker 1>spent a lot of time in Southeast Asia, and their

782
00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:12.679
<v Speaker 1>black magic over there is is called mootelu. And before

783
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:15.039
<v Speaker 1>I went over I didn't I didn't think it was

784
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:17.800
<v Speaker 1>a thing too much, you know, I thought it was

785
00:48:17.960 --> 00:48:21.199
<v Speaker 1>maybe in the past, but it's very much widely used

786
00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:23.400
<v Speaker 1>because over in Southeast Asia. They have you know, they

787
00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:25.480
<v Speaker 1>have the living and the dead, and they pretty much

788
00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:28.199
<v Speaker 1>go hand in hand. They're very very spiritual. They have

789
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:31.639
<v Speaker 1>deep connections with you know, the past and the ancestors

790
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:35.039
<v Speaker 1>and all that. But black magic is very highly used

791
00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:37.880
<v Speaker 1>and it's used by people every day with it's you

792
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:41.480
<v Speaker 1>know where it's for love, wealth, jobs. It's used by

793
00:48:41.920 --> 00:48:45.639
<v Speaker 1>actors as well. Actors literally fly from abroad to go

794
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:50.960
<v Speaker 1>over there and meet a practitioner of mootelu for more success.

795
00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:53.519
<v Speaker 1>So it's still widely used, and it's you know, if

796
00:48:53.559 --> 00:48:56.159
<v Speaker 1>you didn't realize what you were looking at, you wouldn't

797
00:48:56.159 --> 00:48:57.159
<v Speaker 1>even realize it's there.

798
00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Definitely might have and one of the craziest things that

799
00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:07.320
<v Speaker 2>experience because it almost doesn't sound rual, like the event

800
00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:10.800
<v Speaker 2>that just happened back to back were crazy and it

801
00:49:11.039 --> 00:49:16.320
<v Speaker 2>happening to us was just the weirdest part, because you know,

802
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:18.960
<v Speaker 2>we don't do nothing, we don't get involved with people,

803
00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:25.000
<v Speaker 2>we don't like problems, and it just happened right in

804
00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:25.639
<v Speaker 2>front of us.

805
00:49:26.559 --> 00:49:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Sure, but you were no strange. It's a paranormal activity

806
00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:32.639
<v Speaker 1>that you'd had some experiences when you were younger as well,

807
00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Is that right, Jen?

808
00:49:33.880 --> 00:49:39.519
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that experience some crazy things like I, well, if

809
00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:41.719
<v Speaker 2>you want me to share, I can share something that

810
00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:43.000
<v Speaker 2>happened to me as a child.

811
00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes, sure, only if you're comfortable doing it. That's no problem.

812
00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay. So yeah, I was about eight years old when

813
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:56.519
<v Speaker 2>my dad had a workshop. He was working on a

814
00:49:56.599 --> 00:50:00.360
<v Speaker 2>sewing machine, because that's part of what he does. He

815
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:06.079
<v Speaker 2>was sewing some fabric together, and I was right behind

816
00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:09.760
<v Speaker 2>him at the table. He had like a backroom and

817
00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:13.920
<v Speaker 2>there was a table and I had coloring stuff and whatever,

818
00:50:14.079 --> 00:50:17.440
<v Speaker 2>all this other stuff. I was playless. And it was

819
00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:21.280
<v Speaker 2>like later in the afternoon. There was almost eight pm,

820
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:24.239
<v Speaker 2>let's say, because we were the last people on that

821
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:31.039
<v Speaker 2>shopping center where his workshop was located in. And all

822
00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:35.199
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, the lights cut off of the building

823
00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:38.599
<v Speaker 2>did just go completely off. And I've run towards the

824
00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:40.719
<v Speaker 2>front where my dad is sitting and I tell him,

825
00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:43.199
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, the lights go off. There was a

826
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:47.440
<v Speaker 2>raining outside, there wasn't any wind, nothing was happening outside.

827
00:50:48.320 --> 00:50:52.679
<v Speaker 2>And when the lights came back on, all you heard

828
00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:59.840
<v Speaker 2>was a loud, demonic voice say get the f out

829
00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:04.440
<v Speaker 2>of here, and it just yelled it so loud its

830
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:12.360
<v Speaker 2>echoes through the workshop. And you just felt this chill

831
00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:15.679
<v Speaker 2>go up your sn and it was so deep and rapty,

832
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:19.000
<v Speaker 2>like the voice was like so deep and rasty, and

833
00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:21.719
<v Speaker 2>it said it clearly, like gets that f out of here?

834
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:29.760
<v Speaker 2>And my dad. My dad replies back and he was like, no,

835
00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:35.559
<v Speaker 2>this is my space. And the lights thun go off again.

836
00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:39.840
<v Speaker 2>And then I'm crying because I'm like, I know I

837
00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:42.599
<v Speaker 2>heard that, and I'm telling him, I'm like you did

838
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:45.800
<v Speaker 2>you hear that? Like what is going on? Like I

839
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:47.400
<v Speaker 2>want to go home. I don't want to be here.

840
00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:50.039
<v Speaker 2>Let's go. And he's like, Okay, we've got to leave.

841
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<v Speaker 2>But you don't need to be scared, because if you

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<v Speaker 2>get scared, you're giving them more power. So ever since then,

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<v Speaker 2>anything turned that has happened to me after that, I've

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<v Speaker 2>always tried to stand my ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you say you were a spiritual.

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<v Speaker 2>Person, well, yes, Like growing up, I was raised in

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<v Speaker 2>the church. I was raised Catholic. It was when I

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<v Speaker 2>became a teenager that I decided to stop going to

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<v Speaker 2>church because I started reading more. I started reading outside

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<v Speaker 2>of what the church taught. I started reading what the

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<v Speaker 2>church really meant, what was behind the Vatican, what was

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<v Speaker 2>behind the Pope, what was behind everything, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>reading some conspiracy theories, but you know, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of conspiracy theories have facts in them. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's really what made me stop going to church. But

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<v Speaker 2>I had always I have always believed in God, and

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<v Speaker 2>I still stand by that.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't really personally grew up in a religious family,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've always believed that there is an energy, not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily a guy with a beard and sat in a

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<v Speaker 1>big chair, just more of a universal energy. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe that universal energy can be housed in a building.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the kind of problem I have with religion.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel man as a whole, he's very easy corrupted.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't necessarily believe in organized religion that in

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<v Speaker 1>that respect.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's sort of like my concept to that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of made me stop going to church because that's

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<v Speaker 2>sort of where my mind is that as well. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's a guy necessarily with a beer.

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<v Speaker 2>It's describe and all of the other stories that fall

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<v Speaker 2>behind it. I do believe it is the energy too.

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<v Speaker 2>I do believe that that's what created everything. Yeah, Like

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<v Speaker 2>once you start learning things on your own, you just

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<v Speaker 2>start almost like opening a different type of realm into

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<v Speaker 2>your own personal life.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's true, of course, when you start looking at conspiracies,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you can it can overwhelm you. And some

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the more you the more you learn, the

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<v Speaker 1>more you you kind of look at the world differently,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not always in a good way. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's okay to learn and it's okay to know

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<v Speaker 1>as long as you mix that in with personal development

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<v Speaker 1>as well, as long as you keep your head about you. Definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>I say that from experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely, Like but you know, I guess it's from

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<v Speaker 2>my own personal experience. You know, other people may have

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<v Speaker 2>different experiences and they don't believe that way, you think

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<v Speaker 2>that way, But from my own personal experience, I know

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<v Speaker 2>that a lot of religions not just what I was raised,

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<v Speaker 2>and have a different truth behind them.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, Jen, you did wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. Yeah, I think you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>was definitely And today it actually unique day because today

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<v Speaker 2>is the one year university for my sister, So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, I've wanted to do something to commemorate her.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand, I understand, and you know, over I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's very recent now, but over time, things are

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<v Speaker 1>heal and she's a piece now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, thank you. I believe that too. She's no longer

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<v Speaker 2>filing the demons she had to fight.

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<v Speaker 1>Wonderful, Okay, Jen, I really appreciate you coming on sharing

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<v Speaker 1>that for our listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you so much for having me and listening.

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely appreciate it, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you're happy to tell your sister story.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, me too. I feel like she was silent, worshipfully

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to be able to tell her story.

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<v Speaker 1>You did a great job, Jen, Thank you, Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for much. No problem. Okay, keep listening, all right, and

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<v Speaker 1>keep in contact. I will talk to you soon. Jen.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, thank you, no problem. Enjoy the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>you re evening. Okay, well, okay, thank you Jen. Bye bye.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that is all for today. Keep updated and connected

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<v Speaker 1>with the show on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you have an encounter that you'd like to share on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast, you can email me at UFO Chronicles at

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<v Speaker 1>gmail dot com, or you can recheck to me via

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<v Speaker 1>the contact page on my website UFO Chronicles podcast dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>A big thank you Jen for sharing tonight, and thank

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<v Speaker 1>you all for listening. I will be back next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Till then, stay safe and keep watching the skies. Goodbye

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<v Speaker 1>to