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Speaker 2: Well, welcome, remember one to the show.

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Speaker 5: We are doing a roundtable with Brent and Don from

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the Paranormal Portal. If you get a chance, you're on iTunes,

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you're listening to this on your podcast player. Definitely check

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out the Paranormal Portal with brenton Don. They also do

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a live show every night on YouTube the Paranormal Portal.

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Go over there and check out what's going on?

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Speaker 4: Brenton Don?

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Speaker 2: How are you guys?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm good. How are you? Don?

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Speaker 6: How are you forgetting somebody?

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Speaker 4: This is going perfectly?

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Speaker 2: We all, yeah, this's going great.

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Speaker 5: We also have I was gonna do it afterwards. We

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also have Tony Merkle from the Confessionals. What's going on, Tony,

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I'm doing fine?

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Speaker 5: I thought we'd do a roundtable just to kind of

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talk about, you know, stuff that we normally don't talk

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about on shows. Brent or Don, if you guys would

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kind of tell the audience about the paranormal kind of

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what's your show about? As far as if they go

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over there and check it out on the podcast.

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Speaker 7: You know you're gonna check out Paranormal Portal. You're gonna

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get a full serving of a buffet of paranormal. We

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serve everything up, hot and fresh. Of course, it's all

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about ghosts. We do UFOs, we do you know, aliens, abductions,

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we do, we do cryptids like Bigfoot and dog Man,

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and also we do things like time slips, Mandela effects.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we really try to cover the whole.

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Speaker 7: Deal and it's just there's so much to work with

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that it's really a lot of fun. We got a

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lot of variety, and we've had some really amazing guests

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and a lot of great conversations.

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Speaker 4: It's hopefully a good time.

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Speaker 7: So I hope if you guys check it out you'll

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enjoy it. But it's something we love doing and take

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you guys do a great job. And I know

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on YouTube, I like the live show that you guys do.

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I actually like I actually like the podcast better.

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Speaker 2: Than the YouTube.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I don't mean that as in a

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bad way. I just like the you know, I'm more

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of a podcast guy than I am a YouTube guy.

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But you guys do a good show, good job on

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that show every night. I got an interesting question Nyila

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from my website. I posed out there if they wanted

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to ask questions or whatever, and Nihila says, which story

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or experience creeped each of you out the most? I'll

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start with Tony, unless you want to think about it, Tony,

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what's the one story or experience that creeped you out

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so many of the stories and stuff, it just doesn't

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walking away from an interview saying what the heck was that?

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Military Enochian Technology talking to Charles Charlie. He was in

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the military, and he seemed to be groomed for a

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certain type of job that he wasn't even aware that

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he's being groomed for. And he goes into this story

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of how he was sent into an unspecified location to

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to the touch, but like everything outside, it was completely

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really hot, like it was hot outside, but this crack

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has a lot of occulty in ties to And when

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he got inside and he's trying to recover his job

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came across the language that he never saw before, and

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book and it's like, you're not going to find it

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in there, and he's like, what do you mean, And

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stuff done so we can get out of here. And

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and then the way back to the ship they experienced

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time laps, and on the ship they experienced time laps.

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I was just like, what the heck did I.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that could have been a movie. That show could

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was that what you said?

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Speaker 5: What about you don what's the uh, what's the story

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or experience that creeped you out the most, either on

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Speaker 8: Well, you know, I got to say, you know, I've

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not really I'm kind of like the skeptical believer on

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Paranorm Portal. You know, I don't take anything for granted.

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very open mind though, And I've not really ever, to

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my break upbringing as a child. But you know, there

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and our ghost box went off because you guys know,

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we have a ghost app on the computer. And I

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just all of a sudden got the chills and all

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the hair on my body, including my beer, just stood

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right up. And it was just I just got this

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like this energy just like walk through me. And Brent

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was like stranding right behind you, if not right on you.

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Speaker 6: But the.

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Speaker 8: January of eighteen, you know, that was just we were

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getting ready. It was a Wednesday night, we were getting

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the go button and then everything just crashes. And Brent

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wasn't feeling good anyhow. He was, you know, he was,

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you know, just not feeling good. He was lethargic and

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it affects me, and I try to push it away

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and accept the fact that, you know, it's like, it's

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not my energy, it's not my problem. You know, I'm

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here for you, Bud. But I don't want to be

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with you right now. But everything went wrong. The stream

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went bad, the skype went bad. I started breaking things.

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I got up and I knocked over a mic and

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I knocked over a projector, and I'm like, oh my god, dude,

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and Brent just hit the stop button and he just instantly,

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you know, it just instantly just hit us all at

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the wrong time, and we just couldn't go on with

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Speaker 4: That was pretty weird.

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Speaker 8: But those really, honestly the only experiences that have really

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you know, tripped me out, you know. But there you

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Speaker 6: But but that means.

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Speaker 8: That, you know, I have an open mind when we

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talk about the things we talk about, you know, and

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some you know, grounding, shall we say, you know, but

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it's okay, you know, oh you know, don but and so,

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had many, if any experiences.

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Speaker 6: So there you go.

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Speaker 2: No, I get it, I get what you're saying.

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Speaker 5: What about you, Brent, Is there any a story or

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lot like Tony in that, for the most part, I've

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the most part, I really don't get scared or creeped out.

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run in with a sasquatch, and I went over that

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when I was on your show, of course West. But

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we were coming down a friend of mine and I

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was fourteen, he was fifteen. We're coming down this ravine

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in a state forest and we stopped on this dried

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up waterfall just to rest, and suddenly, like eight feet

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behind us and about two feet above us was this deep,

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making that noise, but I was pretty confident, like I

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Speaker 4: Was going to kill me.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it just real, really felt that ominous and

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that foreboding, and my friend and I both froze, And

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that really happen? Was that really what happened? But you

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it cool. But we ended up just finally just taking

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off and run. And so many people say, oh, don't run,

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don't run, but it's like, you know, you.

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Speaker 7: Well, I knew whatever made that noise was well beyond

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my scope of fight, you know, I just knew that

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a flight, and so we ran out of there and

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we weren't pursued or anything.

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grew up, and I started to find things that people

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and went out in those woods as an adult much

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later in my life, and sure enough, I could see

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some of the things that people have long attributed to sasquatch.

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Speaker 4: But that really did scare me. I mean, I was terrified.

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that I've gotten creeped up by something paranormal. And I

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know you're probably asking this question in terms of what

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we've covered on the show, but honestly, you know, I

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take I don't really feel that creeped out factor from

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the shows unless it has to do with kids. But

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those really creep me out because they're you know, they're

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the they can't defend themselves, they can't do anything, and

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sometimes they get targeted and that's just a heartbreaker. But

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happened to me that freaked me out was I was

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home alone.

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Speaker 6: I was.

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Speaker 7: I was married at that time as well, but not

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to the same person I'm married to now, but she

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would she she was working and I came home early

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from my job and I was like, oh, I could

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take a shower, because every time I took a shower,

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it didn't matter what. She felt that was a perfect

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time to do dishes, which meant I got a cold shower,

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and so I was like, yeah. I locked up the house,

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got in the shower, and I'm all wathered up and stuff,

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and all of a sudden, the water went ice cold,

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and I was just like, what the.

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Speaker 4: Hell's going on?

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Speaker 7: And I figured she must have come home and decided

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to do dishes, because that's the way it always went.

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I'm still here in water porn, and I'm like, what's

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going on. I opened the shower curtain, and in the

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sink outside of the shower, the hot water is just

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blasting and steam's coming up, and I know I've locked

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Speaker 4: There's nobody in there with me.

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Speaker 7: But something turned on that hot water, you know, to

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make that the shower water go ice cold, and it

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just felt creepy and I don't know what it is,

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but it's just being naked and having something like that

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happen just makes it so much.

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Speaker 2: Worse kind of vulnerable and very vulnerable position.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, you know, not that not that my cotton

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T shirt's going to stop a lot in terms of attacks,

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but I just feel better about it, you know.

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Speaker 4: So that's about it for me. I guess off the

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top of my head.

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Speaker 2: I think for me it would probably be episode four

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nineteen with Anthony.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys remember that the old

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woman that and she had him like these creatures in

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her home and they were her like her grandkids. And

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he tried to save one from a tree. It was

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stuck in a tree. He said it looked like a fat,

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chubby kid.

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Speaker 2: And did you guys ever hear that story? Knowing?

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Speaker 5: I know Tony did, but Brent and Don, did you

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guys ever hear that episode four nineteen with Anthony?

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Speaker 4: Please say I don't. I haven't. I'm pretty sure I haven't.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a bizarre story, and I remember, you know,

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I was kind of on the fence whether a poster

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or not. But it's kind of one of those accounts.

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If you get a chance, check it out because it's

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one of those things to where if you read that encounter,

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you would call BS on it. If someone tried to

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tell you that encounter, you'd probably call BS on it.

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But when you hear Anthony tell it, you walk away

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and go, I don't know what happened to this guy.

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I mean, I believe this guy. I think what he's

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exactly what he s has happened happened.

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Speaker 2: And you know that there's another one.

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Speaker 5: I won't burn it up on this show, but there

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was a kernel that contacted me. He sent me a

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bunch of his military records. And it's a long story.

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I won't bore you guys with it. But and he

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lives in Australia now and there's a certain reason why

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I didn't have him on the show. He's dying of

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cancer and so he's kind of loaded up on payment

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essen And you know how the audience can be. Sometimes

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they'll they'll hang people from the town square. You know

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that I can and I don't want to bring him

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on the air. And then people say, while he was

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drinking or you know, because he is heavily sedated on

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a lot of he's coherent. But he's the reason why

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he told me this story. Long story short is in

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Vietnam they had killed two giants and one was male,

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one was female, and he watched him chair a part

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kids and I'll save it for another time. But that

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story cripped me out. But as far as the show goes,

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I think episode.

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Speaker 2: Four nineteen is what do you think about that? Tony?

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Episode four nineteen.

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Speaker 6: I really thoroughly enjoyed that episode very much.

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Speaker 2: I really thought the whole encounter was fascinating. I really did.

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It's one of my favorite shows.

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Speaker 6: Wow, you know I add something here. Now, it's not

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an episode per se. I mean I've had this I

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guess person or not person, but entity I guess show

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up on a couple of different episodes, and it's something

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that depicted in Hollywood a lot. And I guess if

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something's going to freak me out, it would be that

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that character from the movie The Grudge, the woman that

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like the girl that's crawling. You know, does you guys

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talking about Oh yeah, yeah, so like that idea. Like

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I've had a guy tell me that I think it

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was in the back seat of his car. He looks

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in the rear of your mirror and all he sees

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is this this girl with long hair, kind of like

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head tilted down staring at him. Uh that that idea, yeah,

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freaks me out. It freaks me out and it drives

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me nuts that it freaks me out because it's just

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the girl, like like a little girl with long, greasy,

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dirty hair, and it freaks me out every time.

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Speaker 8: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that that is creepy.

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Speaker 6: Samara from The Ring I just interviewed, got view the

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guy this morning. I just interviewed a guy this morning

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who had a similar type experience. It was more a

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dream in his head. He was telling different story and

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he told me this one dream that he's happened, but

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it was a recurring dream over a couple of weeks

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period of time, and it's the same thing. And it

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was like that kind of character chasing him while it

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was running as across the top of a fence, like

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it was running on a fence, and it's just like

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the idea of it just freaks me out.

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Speaker 2: What is it, Tony, I'm not sure what you're talking about.

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Speaker 6: Uh, you know the movie The Ring.

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Speaker 2: No never saw it?

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Speaker 6: Okay, Well, there's a character in that movie that the

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demon girl character. It's it's just that typical and it's

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been it's it's depicted in several different types of movies

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and Hollywood stuff where it's like a girl and a

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white gown, long black hair down her back, hairs hanging

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over her face, and usually like she's dripping wet every

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time you see her and she's standing alone in a

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hallway staring at you. I know what you're talking about now, Yeah,

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that I can't take it like it drives me nuts.

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And now that I've verbalized that, I guarantee you I'm

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going to have something happened in my house one day.

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Speaker 4: You feather to the universe lookout.

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Speaker 5: Speaking of paranormal you know what, really the one thing

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that really bothers me in the paranormal world is some

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of these older videos where someone's being possessed and it's

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not like the Possession where it's obviously a fake, where

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there's actual physical transformations. There was one, Gosh, I have

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to see if I can't find it, where someone's actually,

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I mean, this guy is possessed by something. Do you

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ever get any of those type of stories, Brent or

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Tony or don do you guys ever come across where

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someone was possessed? I mean, that would be a great

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interview what did it feel like being possessed? What you know,

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what led up to it? If you guys ever talked

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to anyone who's actually been possessed.

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Speaker 7: I haven't had anybody come forward on the portal yet

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with that, and you know, so I would love to

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understand more about that too, But no, we haven't had that,

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have you, Tony?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? A lot? Oh really yeah. I've talked to a

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lot of people who have had that, those situations happened

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in their lives. I just again, I just talked to

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another person today who she when she was a little girl,

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she falling short of being possessed. She said that if

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she was gonna try to understand what a possession felt

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like while it was happening, She's like, what I experienced

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was that she was very hesitant to say she was possessed.

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And even another guy I talked, I talked to the

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several people today. Another guy I've talked today was the

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same guy with the dream with the woman running across

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the fence. He was describing things happening to him throughout

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his entire life, and I asked him, I said, you know,

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and the one time something had happened, you know, the

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situation I say, it sounds like it's a possession, and

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he's like, I don't like calling it that. I was like, well,

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I guess I can understand that, but that's pretty much

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what it was. And I've had lots of people contacting

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me saying that they've had demonic entities either possessing him,

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they had to go through an exorcism, or they've seen

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an exorcism. The girl I was talking to today, she

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was at her fiance's house and the first time this happened.

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She's in his room and she hears his brother yelling

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out in the living room. I think it was her

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her brother's fiance's house, but he was going crazy and

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she her fiances like, don't go out there, and she's like,

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all right, So she stays in the room. Now, she's

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pregnant at time, and she really had a pee, and

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if anybody's been around a pregnant lady, it's very sudden.

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And so she had to go, and so she went out,

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and when she looked down the hallway, she sees her

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fiance's brother being I guess prayed for by several people,

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and he is yelling and kind of flipping out, and

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he turns his head and looks at her and his

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eyes are completely black, and it scared her so bad

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she ran back into the bedroom. The fiance's sister also

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had something happen to her just like that when she

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was younger. And then one day she's at home and

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she's sleeping. They're both sleeping and her I think she

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said her fiance fell out of bed or something like that,

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and she leans over and she's like, Eric, what's wrong?

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Are you okay?

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some kind of like deep, low, demonic voice and she's

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like Eric, stop, and he's like, you should go, and

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she ran out called the family, and the family came

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over with I guess their presets and stuff, and they

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performed an extracism on him right there, and you know,

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he was yelling and screaming. And while that was going on,

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somebody else had come over to her and was praying

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for her and put their hand.

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Speaker 6: On the belly, praying for the baby inside and stuff.

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Because I mean, that's it sounds you gotta worry about.

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But there's been a lot of different reports of these

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things happening to lots of people, and I have lots

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of interviews I'm sure I probably haven't even aired yet

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that talk about, you know, such things happening to them.

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I know there's one guy and this is much, this

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isn't much a demonic possession. But if anybody's heard of

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incubus and suckubush, I have a guy who's gonna be

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coming up here, probably in the next couple of months.

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And he had a succubist coming on to him, and

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it several times. And I can't remember exactly clearly if,

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but I think during the interview we were going over

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the details and stuff, and I kind of helped him

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understand the difference between incubus succubists and all that stuff.

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And I sent him images and different things to look at,

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and he's like, that's what I experienced. And then there's

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the guy. I think his name is Bob Larson, and

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I played some of his audio on my show, probably

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about six months ago, eight months ago, and he had

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a radio show. And here he's a Christian guy, and

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he is doing a Christian radio program and somebody calls

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in just to talk to him, a very distressed person.

477
00:22:44,279 --> 00:22:47,440
And as the guy's talking, you hear another voice come

478
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,400
through the line and it's like the guy was possessed

479
00:22:50,519 --> 00:22:53,759
and like this demonic entity was coming through the line.

480
00:22:53,759 --> 00:22:56,400
And I believe, if I remember correctly, a couple of

481
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,799
times you heard the guy talking in his normal voice,

482
00:22:58,839 --> 00:23:01,240
and as he's talking, the other voice comes through at

483
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,119
the same time, so there's like two voices at one

484
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,000
time coming through the line. And that was a very

485
00:23:06,039 --> 00:23:09,240
intense phone call that he had, and I played it

486
00:23:09,279 --> 00:23:11,039
on my show and I got a lot of people

487
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,200
saying that freaked him out. And then there's some people

488
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,799
that say, oh, that's not real, it's fake, it's a hoax.

489
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:16,279
Speaker 4: Whatever.

490
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 6: You know, I'm not gonna I can't go into it

491
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,279
thinking I'm gonna please everybody, right.

492
00:23:21,519 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, it doesn't matter what you do on

493
00:23:23,759 --> 00:23:26,160
any of these shows, there's there's always gonna be somebody.

494
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 4: Oh no, that's because.

495
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,599
Speaker 8: That's me, because you know, I mean even but no,

496
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,720
you're not disrespectful about well no, I'm not disrespectful about it.

497
00:23:33,759 --> 00:23:37,240
But like today I'm like going through Facebook and I'm like, Okay,

498
00:23:37,519 --> 00:23:40,480
somebody asked a question to like an EmPATH you know

499
00:23:41,039 --> 00:23:43,160
Facebook group that I'm a member of, and they said,

500
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,559
when I was possessed.

501
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 4: I'm like No, you weren't.

502
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 8: No, you weren't. Because here's the thing. What I what

503
00:23:51,079 --> 00:23:55,000
I think would happen is that if you were possessed,

504
00:23:55,039 --> 00:23:57,759
you probably would not remember much of it. Now, I

505
00:23:57,799 --> 00:23:59,960
may be off base, I don't know, I may be wrong.

506
00:24:00,039 --> 00:24:02,960
I've never personally, I don't think I've ever been possessed.

507
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,759
Maybe I have been, who knows. But you know my

508
00:24:05,839 --> 00:24:08,400
point is this is first of all, I look, I

509
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,799
ask him, you know, what kind of you know, mental

510
00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:12,880
issues are in your family, what kind of medications are

511
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,920
you on? You know, things like that, because I want

512
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,920
to get that stuff out of the way. And then

513
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,880
I want to ask him, how do you remember this?

514
00:24:19,759 --> 00:24:22,359
You know, how do you remember a demon possessing you?

515
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,160
When a demon possession is supposed to just like push

516
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,759
you away and take over your consciousness, how do you

517
00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:28,559
remember anything?

518
00:24:28,839 --> 00:24:29,039
Speaker 6: Now?

519
00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 8: If they say, oh, I had hypnotic regression or something

520
00:24:31,519 --> 00:24:35,039
like that, well then you know, okay, whatever. But I mean,

521
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,119
I and a lot of We have a friend named Paisley,

522
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,960
and she has a show about paganism and things like that,

523
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,000
and you know, she was just talking about I was

524
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,839
on I kind of you know, got in on the

525
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,480
last part of her show last night, and we were

526
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,799
talking about that a little bit about you know, she

527
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,640
has people in some of her Amino groups and some

528
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,519
of her Facebook groups that are saying these things like

529
00:24:58,599 --> 00:25:00,519
I was possessed and this is what happen and blah

530
00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:04,119
blah blah blah blah. And the people in her Amino groups,

531
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,160
they're like, no, you aren't, No, you aren't. You know

532
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,200
that's not true. You're you know, I have to question

533
00:25:10,279 --> 00:25:12,839
and this is me. I'm not saying, you know, you know,

534
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,680
anybody should be like me.

535
00:25:15,319 --> 00:25:16,319
Speaker 4: They just don't do it.

536
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 8: But I just can't believe if you don't have some

537
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,039
reason that you remember it specifically, I can't believe it.

538
00:25:26,079 --> 00:25:29,119
I got to say it's you know, if I experienced it,

539
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,240
then it'd be a little different. You know, if I

540
00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:34,160
experienced if I was there when the person was, or

541
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,039
I experienced it, whatever, then it'd be more of a

542
00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:39,119
reality to me. But I think that's one of those

543
00:25:39,839 --> 00:25:41,799
grain of salt kind of things. I mean, like a

544
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,400
giant grain of salt, like the whole sea of salt,

545
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:46,400
you know, looking at it.

546
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:47,559
Speaker 6: So there you go.

547
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 7: Well, one thing that occurs to me, and I firmly

548
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,160
believed this and I think that I think the word

549
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,720
demon gets really dropped way too freely and easily, Like

550
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,240
some people use it almost like a status, like, uh,

551
00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:03,279
you know in paranormal investigators like to say, well, we

552
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,799
you know, we we dealt with a demon down at

553
00:26:05,799 --> 00:26:06,559
the Larsen House.

554
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,079
Speaker 4: It's like, I don't.

555
00:26:07,839 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 7: Really believe that in most cases a lot of these

556
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,720
people have ever bumped into a demon. I don't think

557
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,720
that these things are quite as omnipresent as people would

558
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:22,079
like to would like to, you know suggest. But you know,

559
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,680
I think people use that term because it sounds sensational,

560
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,519
and there seems to be this real movement in the

561
00:26:27,519 --> 00:26:32,000
paranormal communities to you know basically you know, compare their

562
00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:35,680
feats and so people drop the name demon all the time.

563
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,759
But there, you know, just because something scares you and

564
00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:41,039
you don't quite understand it doesn't mean it's a demon.

565
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,519
And I think that many people just miss miss represent

566
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:51,200
demonic countings and demonic situations. There's also plenty of of

567
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:58,119
instances of perhaps well believed incident in instances I gotta say,

568
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,359
but uh, where there's a lot of people that believe

569
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,920
that some people that used to live in a body

570
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,799
feel like maybe they're cheated out and have tried to

571
00:27:06,759 --> 00:27:09,880
walk in to other people, and so it is kind

572
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,799
of a possession, but it's certainly not a demonic kind

573
00:27:12,799 --> 00:27:14,880
of thing. And so I don't know if many people

574
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,759
really understand what a what a demonic possession really is.

575
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,039
Speaker 5: Well, and how would you articulate it though a true

576
00:27:24,079 --> 00:27:27,039
demonic possession. I tend to agree with you, and I've

577
00:27:27,079 --> 00:27:30,039
been accused of that too before, and it's like, well,

578
00:27:30,079 --> 00:27:33,680
I don't know how to articulate, you know, like soon

579
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,839
running into a dog man and his eyes are going

580
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,759
red and it's this weird entity. And so I tend

581
00:27:40,759 --> 00:27:44,880
to say demon or demonic or I understand what you're

582
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,200
talking about, something separate. But how would you define for

583
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,160
everyone what a true demonic possession would be or a

584
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,279
true demonic activity.

585
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,039
Speaker 7: I think, in most cases, honestly what I believe, And

586
00:27:58,559 --> 00:28:00,359
maybe I'm way out on left field on this, but

587
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,319
I think in most cases people won't know they're dealing

588
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,920
with the demon until it's way late in the game.

589
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,680
Demons don't want to broadcast their presence because they truly

590
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,079
want to destroy and take over that person, and they're

591
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,920
the life of that person. So they don't want to

592
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,519
sit around and flash a billboard like hey.

593
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:18,599
Speaker 4: Demon here, I'm moving in.

594
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 7: They are subtle, are there. It's a war of attrition.

595
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,680
Like people that are dealing with true demonic presences, I believe,

596
00:28:28,279 --> 00:28:30,319
don't really understand what's going on with them.

597
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 4: They just suddenly have.

598
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 7: These weird moods and weird thoughts, and they feel like

599
00:28:34,039 --> 00:28:36,319
there's a darkness around them, like they just can't see

600
00:28:36,319 --> 00:28:40,039
the sun anymore, a feeling of hopelessness, which would be

601
00:28:40,079 --> 00:28:45,079
the demonic oppression, which eventually will work into possession. But

602
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,519
you know, a lot of times the demon doesn't want

603
00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:51,279
you to know it's there because by virtue of it

604
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:52,559
doing what it's trying to do.

605
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,319
Speaker 4: If you know, then you can get rid of it.

606
00:28:54,839 --> 00:28:55,599
And so I.

607
00:28:55,519 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 7: Believe that they are incredibly subtle, incredibly cunning and precise.

608
00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:02,680
And when you do know that you've got one, it's

609
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,279
so late in the game that it's going to take

610
00:29:04,599 --> 00:29:06,319
a whole lot to get rid of it. It's not

611
00:29:06,359 --> 00:29:08,720
just a matter of walking through the house with sage

612
00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:11,880
and thinking happy thoughts. You know, it's going to take

613
00:29:12,079 --> 00:29:15,400
a real spiritual act with probably a lot of other

614
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,759
people helping out. A lot of times in true demonic situations,

615
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,400
people report smelling the sulfur smells, the you know, the

616
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,720
real foul sulphuric type smells, and they attribute that, of

617
00:29:28,759 --> 00:29:31,960
course to the correlation of hell. Whether that is or not,

618
00:29:32,039 --> 00:29:34,240
I don't know, and I don't pretend to know, but

619
00:29:34,839 --> 00:29:37,680
I think that when we're truly in the presence of evil,

620
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,359
we have like a sixth sense about that, like we

621
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,799
know beyond a doubt that something is.

622
00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:43,839
Speaker 4: Really really evil.

623
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,079
Speaker 7: But I think in demons cases, they are cunning, they

624
00:29:47,079 --> 00:29:50,359
are powerful. You know, just because of your cereal bowl

625
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,359
moves doesn't mean oh God, I got a demon because

626
00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:54,400
that scared me and that can't be good, you know.

627
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,400
So that's just kind of kind of my two cents

628
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,799
on it. I'm certainly not a demon knowledge, so I

629
00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:02,519
don't mean to speak out of turn too much, but

630
00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:05,359
it just seems to me that that these things get overused,

631
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,599
and I think that if there truly is a demon there,

632
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,720
it doesn't want you to know until it's already executed

633
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:11,599
what it wants to do.

634
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,039
Speaker 5: And I'm curious to know what Tony thinks on this,

635
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,880
But so would you define poultergeists activity as demonic activity.

636
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,119
Speaker 7: No, no, I wouldn't. And there's a there's a belief

637
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:27,000
that in many cases, poulter Gey's activity is very possibly

638
00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:31,119
a manifestation of the living and and quite honestly, most

639
00:30:31,119 --> 00:30:35,960
Poultergeys cases are centered around pre pubescent or pubestant girls,

640
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,599
and so it seems to have something to do with

641
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,640
them coming into their you know, into womanhood and along

642
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,599
with other issues. Obviously you have to start off being

643
00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:49,440
an incredibly spiritually gifted person, but coming into the you know,

644
00:30:49,519 --> 00:30:52,799
the womanhood and uh, there there can sometimes be a

645
00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:56,680
separation and a projection. It's a it's nearly psychological, you know.

646
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,000
So for me, poultergeist are are an entirely different thing.

647
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 2: What's your take on it, Tony? I know you're a Christian.

648
00:31:04,079 --> 00:31:06,319
You go to church. I got to church. I'm a Christian.

649
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:07,279
Speaker 4: You don't know me.

650
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:08,359
Speaker 1: You're not God.

651
00:31:09,839 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 4: I know church.

652
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I get that from South Park where he's gingers

653
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,599
have souls anyway.

654
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I think there's

655
00:31:22,519 --> 00:31:24,680
a lot of questions about all this kind of stuff

656
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,079
we were talking about that, Uh, it's it's a lot

657
00:31:28,119 --> 00:31:32,119
of you know, our opinions on things and people's personal

658
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,640
experiences is why I value our types of shows so much.

659
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,559
As far as poultry Guy's activity goes, Brent, you had

660
00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:41,519
a what you said there about the young girls having

661
00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:45,720
the experiences tendency tending tending to have the experiences. It

662
00:31:45,759 --> 00:31:47,480
goes along with one of the ladies I just talked

663
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,079
to today. Really, I keep saying that, but it's fresh

664
00:31:50,119 --> 00:31:52,640
in my mind. Uh, when she was a young girl,

665
00:31:52,759 --> 00:31:56,799
she she was playing with the Ouiji board. After that experience, Uh,

666
00:31:56,839 --> 00:31:59,240
she started having poultry Guy's activity happening in her homes.

667
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,200
Now she just talk about it a whole lot. It

668
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,079
really wasn't the main part for story, believe or not,

669
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,960
but it was right around that age that you would

670
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,720
that you described as young girls having that activity. I

671
00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:13,519
think when it comes to the spiritual realm and all

672
00:32:13,559 --> 00:32:16,839
these these oddities that you know we're bringing to the

673
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,000
forefront that you know, whether you're a secularist, a Christian,

674
00:32:21,079 --> 00:32:24,319
or a Hindu or whatever you are, if your mainstream

675
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,799
tend tend not to want to talk about these types

676
00:32:26,839 --> 00:32:29,359
of things, I think there's a lot of questions involved.

677
00:32:30,079 --> 00:32:33,119
I don't think that it's one simple answer for everything,

678
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,839
Like Brenton Don were saying about how not everything is

679
00:32:36,839 --> 00:32:39,640
a demon, and I firmly agree with that. I don't

680
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,640
think everything is a demon. I don't know what everything is,

681
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,759
and I don't have a full understanding as to how

682
00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:48,279
it all works, and I don't think i'll ever really

683
00:32:48,319 --> 00:32:50,200
truly have a full understanding of how it all works

684
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,680
because it's not really within our our realm of understanding.

685
00:32:54,079 --> 00:32:57,359
You bring up the Christian aspect of things, Wes one

686
00:32:57,359 --> 00:33:00,240
of the things that you know really like this My

687
00:33:00,359 --> 00:33:04,240
show really helped me learn a lot through people's experiences,

688
00:33:04,319 --> 00:33:07,240
and it forces you to look into things that you

689
00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:10,319
typically wouldn't look into unless you know you're presented with

690
00:33:10,359 --> 00:33:13,680
information you just can't figure out. And early on the

691
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,200
show talking to people and with my background, I was

692
00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:19,160
raised in a Christian home and all that fun stuff,

693
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,960
and I was just under the assumption into my adulthood

694
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,400
that you know, if there's something spiritual going on, like

695
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,599
you know, it's a demon. If somebody is talking to

696
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,319
a dead person, it's a demon. That's kind of how

697
00:33:33,559 --> 00:33:36,680
I was always just kind of talk to approach things.

698
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,559
But even in the Bible, it's just not true. It's

699
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,599
just not true. And it upsets people to hear somebody

700
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,119
say that, and they're like, oh, you say you're a Christian.

701
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,400
I am a Christian. And you know, if you read

702
00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:55,920
in the Bible, there are certain accounts where there are

703
00:33:57,319 --> 00:34:00,319
talking with the other side. Now I would I would

704
00:34:00,319 --> 00:34:02,359
say that I just said my mic, sorry about that.

705
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,839
I would say that in the Bible, throughout the Old

706
00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:09,559
Testament and New Testament, God forbids it okay. And to

707
00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:14,519
start with that, it's a very common thing amongst the

708
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:17,480
Christian circles at least I don't know about the religions,

709
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,960
but that either a lot of times people don't believe

710
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,840
that it's even possible to communicate with a dead person.

711
00:34:26,519 --> 00:34:29,440
If they believe. If they do believe that you're communicating

712
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,920
with something more often not, they're going to push it

713
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,599
off as all, we were talking to a demon. But

714
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,880
in the Bible, I think it's two Samuel eighteen, it's

715
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,679
when King Saul goes to the Witch of Endor. Now

716
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:46,320
he outlawed necromancy and summoning of spirits. He outlawed it,

717
00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:49,880
and he goes to the Witch of Endor undercover, like

718
00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:52,079
this guy's hood up and you know he's just trying

719
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:54,760
dressed trying to dress like an ordinary dude. And he

720
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,840
approaches the Witch of Endor and he requests her to

721
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,760
contact the dead spear of the prophet Samon up. Samuel

722
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,280
was a prophet of Sauls that had recently died and

723
00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:10,400
was a very influential person in Saul's life on you know,

724
00:35:10,599 --> 00:35:14,599
decision making and uh, he he didn't always listen to Samuel.

725
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,599
But he approaches the witch and asks her to that

726
00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:20,079
summon the spirit of Samuel, and she's like, I can't.

727
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,960
To Saul outlawed it. He'll he'll kill me if if

728
00:35:23,199 --> 00:35:26,119
I do this. And he reveals himself and he's like,

729
00:35:26,679 --> 00:35:28,599
you best be doing it because I'm the king, and

730
00:35:28,639 --> 00:35:32,400
she's like, oh okay. So she she goes and and

731
00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:35,679
summons the dead spirit of Samuel, and uh, they ask

732
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,760
a serious series of questions, they get answers back, and

733
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,159
your typical Christian uh circle that if they're gonna teach

734
00:35:43,159 --> 00:35:46,199
this on a Sunday morning, Sunday school type of thing,

735
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,679
they're gonna they're gonna say that, you know, she's some

736
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,320
she summoned this a demon.

737
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:51,079
Speaker 2: Uh.

738
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 6: But if you if you read the Bible for what

739
00:35:54,119 --> 00:35:56,760
it says, and you don't try to put words in

740
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,119
in the Bible's mouth. The Bible never says that that

741
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,639
Saul spoke to a demon. It never says that the

742
00:36:03,679 --> 00:36:06,760
witch was making things up. It says that Saul had

743
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,519
a conversation with the dead spirit of Samuel, the prophet. Now,

744
00:36:10,599 --> 00:36:12,639
the prophet's supposed to be in the presence of God.

745
00:36:13,079 --> 00:36:17,280
Yet somehow this woman was able to summon the dead

746
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,280
spirit of the prophet Samuel, who's supposed to be in

747
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,440
the presence of God, and has a conversation with Saul

748
00:36:22,599 --> 00:36:24,679
and basically tell Saul, you have bro you're about to

749
00:36:24,679 --> 00:36:29,639
be dead. And he did, he died. But it doesn't

750
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,920
say anything about the idea of he spoke to a

751
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,559
demon or that she was playing games with him. Like

752
00:36:36,199 --> 00:36:38,880
if you read what it says he had a conversation

753
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:44,360
with Samuel and therefore communicating with these spirits and summoning

754
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,280
of spirits, it's very real. It's just how do you

755
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,199
view these things. There are people out there that do

756
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,239
these things actively and they don't have a problem with it.

757
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,639
It's all dependent on what your philosophies are in life,

758
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,360
what your theologies are, what do you use of bribe

759
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,360
to as a Christian. I tried. I tried to. I'm

760
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,039
very imperfect at it, but I try to, you know,

761
00:37:06,119 --> 00:37:07,960
follow what the Bible tells me to do and try

762
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,360
not to do stupid stuff. And so I stay away

763
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,760
from it because I believe it's very real. I believe

764
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,320
it's very possible, but I've been instructed not to do it,

765
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,079
and I don't know what's going to happen if I

766
00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:21,360
do it, So I'm scared. I'm scared, all right, so

767
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,239
I don't do it. But that's, you know, I don't

768
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,400
even know what the question was. I just went off

769
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,199
on a rampage. So wes I handed off to you?

770
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear you. No, you know, not to go

771
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,920
too much off to the Bible. I was reading. It's interesting.

772
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,159
Speaker 5: The Book of Knot goes into demons and where demons

773
00:37:41,199 --> 00:37:44,760
come from. I don't know if Brent or don you

774
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,800
guys have ever read that in the Book of Enoch,

775
00:37:47,079 --> 00:37:49,239
but it goes into where they come from and how

776
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,000
they got here and what they are, and it's just fascinating.

777
00:37:53,079 --> 00:37:54,679
Speaker 2: I was telling Tony we should do a show.

778
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,159
Speaker 5: It'd be cool to do a Bible show, but do

779
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:02,199
it from a different perspective. Like a Sunday morning sit

780
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,119
in church type of sol Antoni, like in the Book

781
00:38:06,119 --> 00:38:09,760
of Jasser where they go into how Esa killed Nimrod

782
00:38:10,199 --> 00:38:13,039
and why he killed Nimrod and just a lot of

783
00:38:13,039 --> 00:38:13,519
cool things.

784
00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:14,559
Speaker 2: I know it's way off topic.

785
00:38:14,599 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 6: Sorry, guys, Yeah, no, I want to correct one thing.

786
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,760
It's first Samuel twenty eight. I said second Simul eighteen.

787
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,480
But it's first Samuel twenty eight. If anybody wants to

788
00:38:22,519 --> 00:38:25,800
read it, go ahead and read it it as far

789
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,519
as I can read and see he's talking to Samuel.

790
00:38:29,559 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 4: Baby.

791
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is an interesting count.

792
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 5: You're right, you know, going back to what Don was

793
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,679
saying about when you read stuff online, you're like, oh,

794
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:37,000
come on.

795
00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 4: You know.

796
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 5: One thing that's really irritating me in the Big four

797
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,039
world right now is all of these people who read encounters.

798
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,280
And it's different from what you do, Brent with your

799
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,480
paranormal show. It's like, Hey, send me your encounter. I'll

800
00:38:49,559 --> 00:38:53,079
narrate it. And there's so a lot. Most of them

801
00:38:53,079 --> 00:38:57,800
are so outlandish that they're not real. And that's the part.

802
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,360
People send them to me and go, hey, can you

803
00:38:59,519 --> 00:39:03,199
contact this guest and get them on the show. And

804
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,320
I started contacting some of those people who do narrations

805
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,480
in ninety nine percent of them, they tell me they're

806
00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:13,320
fake stories. They they write them in their basement and

807
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,840
then narrate these stories. Or they'll take an encounter and

808
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,320
add a bunch of stuff to it to make it

809
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,480
more interesting. And so it's kind of frustrating, you know,

810
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,000
when you have someone on the show and they're telling

811
00:39:23,039 --> 00:39:25,679
an encounter, you know, and no one's getting raped by

812
00:39:25,679 --> 00:39:28,159
a bigfoot. They're like, this is boring. Well, a lot

813
00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:31,559
of the other stuff you're reading online isn't real. Then

814
00:39:31,559 --> 00:39:33,039
what drives me nuts is a lot of them are

815
00:39:33,039 --> 00:39:36,079
bigfoot researchers, like I'm going to narrate this story, and

816
00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:37,960
then when you talk to them off the air, they're like, no,

817
00:39:38,119 --> 00:39:38,800
it's a fake story.

818
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 2: I made it up.

819
00:39:40,199 --> 00:39:42,679
Speaker 5: It just drives me nuts. Do you guys have anything

820
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,360
like that in the paranormal world. It seems like the

821
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:49,000
paranormal world and the UFO world seems somewhat more sane

822
00:39:49,039 --> 00:39:50,840
than the bigfoot world. I know you got a small

823
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,800
taste of it recently, Brent with your show, but it

824
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:59,440
seems like those other genres are more sane as far

825
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:00,599
as the people involved.

826
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 7: What do you guys think, well, you know, I mean,

827
00:40:03,519 --> 00:40:07,360
the other part of it is there seems to be

828
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,480
definable characteristics to you know, essentially to what Bigfoot is.

829
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,679
The other the other areas like like ghosts and UFOs,

830
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,239
it's just kind of everything goes So, I mean, it's

831
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,599
really hard to say, now this is fake, this isn't fake.

832
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,079
But with Bigfoot, I mean, there seems to be at

833
00:40:27,159 --> 00:40:30,280
least a general idea of what this is. And I

834
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,559
don't know, I don't know that everything I'm reading on

835
00:40:33,599 --> 00:40:34,320
the show is real.

836
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:35,559
Speaker 4: And I say that openly.

837
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 7: I'm like, you know, I'm I'm finding what material I

838
00:40:38,039 --> 00:40:40,639
can I can't validate, but that's real.

839
00:40:41,639 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 5: That's a separate issue than you writing the stories and

840
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,400
reading them, you know, and that it's a completely and

841
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,199
I don't want to compare what you're doing to what

842
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,760
I just said, because it's apples and oranges, you know

843
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:52,039
what I mean.

844
00:40:52,039 --> 00:40:53,079
Speaker 2: I don't mean cut you off.

845
00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 7: No, No, that's cool, because but I would say that,

846
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,360
you know, there was a time during during the early

847
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,079
phase of the show, I was like, how did these

848
00:41:02,119 --> 00:41:03,199
other shows do it?

849
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,199
Speaker 4: What am I doing wrong?

850
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 7: Because they would have tons and tons of stories and

851
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,480
their audience wouldn't be much bigger than mine, and I

852
00:41:10,519 --> 00:41:11,480
was like, what's going on?

853
00:41:11,519 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 4: What am I not doing?

854
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 7: And then it occurred to me as I started paying

855
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,440
attention to what they were doing, and it was like, God,

856
00:41:18,519 --> 00:41:21,000
can that be real? That seems so different from anything

857
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,559
I've ever heard? And I think that that's horrible because

858
00:41:24,199 --> 00:41:26,960
there are a lot of people that really, you really

859
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,079
believe in this stuff. They're really trying to understand that

860
00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:31,639
they're trying to learn, and in many cases, a lot

861
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,519
of people have had experiences and so they come to

862
00:41:34,559 --> 00:41:36,639
the paranormal shows and the bigfoot shows to try to

863
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,280
understand what's going on because whatever they saw just toward

864
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,760
the turn their life upside down. And it really bothers

865
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:49,400
me that people would be fabricating stories and sensationalizing those things,

866
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,800
because I think for a lot of people, these shows

867
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,039
can be really cathartic and help them come to terms

868
00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:55,960
with something.

869
00:41:55,639 --> 00:41:56,519
Speaker 4: They've been through.

870
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,519
Speaker 7: Or there's other people that are just really honestly curious

871
00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:02,119
and want to understand the phenomena. But if they're getting

872
00:42:02,159 --> 00:42:05,440
a bunch of garbage, you know, I think that's incredibly irresponsible.

873
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 4: But it doesn't surprise me.

874
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:07,679
Speaker 6: Well, you know.

875
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 8: And also you know you look at you know we

876
00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:15,679
you know, we as a serious serious investigators, serious you

877
00:42:15,679 --> 00:42:18,800
know researchers. You know, they they go out and they

878
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,079
put the boots on the ground and things like this.

879
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,320
And I've said this many times, and it happens in

880
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,639
the UFO community, it happens in the paranormal community, it

881
00:42:26,679 --> 00:42:30,559
happens in the Bigfoot community. We are our own worst enemies.

882
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,519
We are the biggest disinformation set of people, my opinion.

883
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,920
Let me let me voice that, because we have such

884
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,079
a rift between things like this, people who make up

885
00:42:42,119 --> 00:42:45,000
stories and people who are trying to tell what they

886
00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:48,840
understand and and share their knowledge, you know, and the

887
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,480
two are butting heads. You know, You've got one person

888
00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:53,840
say no, that's just bs and we're not going to

889
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,360
do that, and that's not true, and and you know,

890
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,679
and the other one's just shaking their head like, well,

891
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,679
you know, this is my experience, this is what I've

892
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:05,239
honestly experienced. And so sometimes we're our worst enemies.

893
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:05,519
Speaker 6: You know.

894
00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:10,519
Speaker 8: There there's division and derision in all aspects of these genres,

895
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,079
and we are our own worst enemies when it comes

896
00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:13,880
to that kind of stuff.

897
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, I tend to agree. One other question Jack sent me.

898
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,639
He said, all these strange cryptids showing up, is there

899
00:43:21,639 --> 00:43:24,760
a connection between the Nephilum and do you guys notice

900
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,360
an uppeak in strange cryptids?

901
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 2: I'm not sure where the how the nephlin thing connects.

902
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 5: I mean, I can give you my opinion, but is

903
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:36,519
there a connection with an up He says uppeak in sightings,

904
00:43:36,559 --> 00:43:38,159
you know, kind of an uptake in sidings.

905
00:43:38,159 --> 00:43:39,559
Speaker 2: And I'm assuming that's what he means.

906
00:43:40,599 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 6: What do you think, Tony, they just judging by what

907
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,320
he wrote, I'm assuming Jack looks into at least at

908
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:51,280
least looks into scriptural writings and not and is totally

909
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,079
I guess, atheistic on it, because if he's giving credibility

910
00:43:55,079 --> 00:43:58,599
to the Nephilum, that's straight out of scripture. I think

911
00:43:58,639 --> 00:44:01,599
the uptick of these sightings, I think there's a different

912
00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:04,480
a lot of different things going into it. One is technology.

913
00:44:05,079 --> 00:44:07,079
You know, in the last twenty years, since the year

914
00:44:07,159 --> 00:44:10,159
let's just say a year two thousand, technology has boomed

915
00:44:10,679 --> 00:44:12,519
faster than we've ever seen before. And I think that's

916
00:44:12,559 --> 00:44:14,239
part of the reason why we have such a problem

917
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,039
with you know, trolls online and the way people interact

918
00:44:17,079 --> 00:44:19,159
with each other, because this is a brand new form

919
00:44:19,199 --> 00:44:22,440
of communication we've never had ever in the human experience,

920
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,800
and so I think we're still learning how to utilize that.

921
00:44:26,639 --> 00:44:31,840
But the on his question, sorry, my wires get crossed.

922
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,119
In the scripture of the Old Testament are not deal

923
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,960
with New Testament revelation. It talks about what's going to

924
00:44:38,039 --> 00:44:41,559
happen in the end times and what's coming forward, and

925
00:44:41,639 --> 00:44:43,960
so I think that's probably where he's going with it.

926
00:44:44,039 --> 00:44:47,440
And that's an opinion based thing, where it's like, well,

927
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,639
do you believe that we're getting close to those times

928
00:44:49,639 --> 00:44:52,599
of the Bible, you know, propheside about as far as

929
00:44:53,039 --> 00:44:56,119
the nephilum masspect of things, I have my own opinions

930
00:44:56,159 --> 00:44:58,440
on these cryptids and all that stuff and how they

931
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,559
came about. I don't think. I guess in general conversation,

932
00:45:02,679 --> 00:45:05,360
like if I'm just talking to us, I usually probably

933
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,719
do refer to it as like a nephlum type of creature.

934
00:45:08,039 --> 00:45:10,199
I think that it would probably is. There's probably a

935
00:45:10,199 --> 00:45:12,639
better way of describing it, because I don't think that

936
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,679
these creatures are nephilim. I don't think that Bigfoot is

937
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,840
Bigfoot is a nephilum, but I think that Bigfoot might

938
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:25,079
have come from similar origins. Put that way, a nephilm

939
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,400
is a is in the Bible. It talks to Genesis six,

940
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,000
Chapter four talks about fallen angels having sex with women

941
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,119
and the offspring, where the Nephilim, the giants, the mighty

942
00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:38,280
Man of renown, and it talks about the and then

943
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,320
throughout the entire Old Testament, much to the chagrin of

944
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,000
many modern day Christians. I don't want to admit this,

945
00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:47,480
but throughout the entire Old Testament, Uh, there are lots

946
00:45:47,639 --> 00:45:52,159
of spots throughout the Bible that talks about these giant people.

947
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,360
I think I could go on and on about this,

948
00:45:54,440 --> 00:46:01,880
but I think that that those are separate from the cryptids.

949
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,960
I think that cryptids though when you do look at

950
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,960
the Book of Enoch, now, the first Book of Enoch,

951
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,119
the other two I don't really give too much weight in.

952
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,320
I mean, I'll read it, read them and stuff. But

953
00:46:14,599 --> 00:46:18,079
the First Book of Enoch, I really do believe that

954
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,119
Enoch himself wrote that book and he and the way

955
00:46:22,159 --> 00:46:25,199
it's written, it's written as if he's describing what's going

956
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,800
on around him, like it's almost like a current events book,

957
00:46:29,679 --> 00:46:33,000
and he talks about what Genesis six, chapter four, Chapter

958
00:46:33,079 --> 00:46:36,079
chapter six, verse four talks about. Now, in Genesis chapter six,

959
00:46:36,159 --> 00:46:39,239
verse four, it's very very brief, and a lot of

960
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,239
people kind of question some of these things that I'm

961
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,960
about to say, But I want to say that in

962
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,119
Genesis six, chapter four, the author, which we believe is

963
00:46:47,159 --> 00:46:51,119
to be Moses, is writing things that he knows, right.

964
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,519
But I feel like sometimes the authors are vague on

965
00:46:54,599 --> 00:46:56,920
things because the people that he's writing for in that

966
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,960
current time, the people around him already know the infra.

967
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,480
It's not like he's going to tell you, Hey, the

968
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,920
sky's blue. Everybody knows the sky's blue. Move on, get

969
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,000
a gate on with it. And I think that's the

970
00:47:08,039 --> 00:47:10,679
reason why it's so vague. But when you go into Enoch,

971
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,440
he goes into more detail. And I think that's the

972
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,599
reason why Genesis was so vague is because they had

973
00:47:16,639 --> 00:47:19,440
the Book of Enoch already everybody knew it. And if

974
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,320
you read like the New Testament, the writers in the

975
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,239
New Testament they quote Enoch. It shows that the writers

976
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,039
of the New Testament actually read things outside of the

977
00:47:27,079 --> 00:47:30,559
things they were writing. They actually read books. And one

978
00:47:30,559 --> 00:47:32,800
of those books was Enoch, and they quote from it.

979
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,000
And I think if the writer of Genesis knew that

980
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,000
Enoch the book existed and everybody was already well versed

981
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,239
in it, he didn't need to go into great detail. Now,

982
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,559
what it says in the Book of Enoch is that

983
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,079
the fallen angels came. And I'm summarizing, but they came

984
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,920
and they not only had sex with women, but they

985
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:54,760
wanted to manipulate all of God's creation, animals, plants, everything.

986
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,360
And so if you take what they did, what we

987
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,159
know they did in Genesis six, verse four, and you

988
00:48:00,199 --> 00:48:04,159
apply that to correcting all God's creation, and I think

989
00:48:04,199 --> 00:48:06,280
it's in I think it's in the first chapter of Enoch.

990
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,400
Actually it talks about this, if I remember correctly it

991
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,599
What do you get when you take a fallen angel

992
00:48:12,639 --> 00:48:16,199
doing that with a gorilla, or a fallen angel doing

993
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,239
that with a wolf or something like that, Like, I

994
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,679
think that these creatures might be a remnant. And there's

995
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,760
also the idea then that I introduce, and I'm actually,

996
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,639
to be honest with you, I'm actually putting together a

997
00:48:27,639 --> 00:48:29,719
whole talk about this that I'm going to do from

998
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:35,280
time to time. But I think that the when you

999
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,840
get people talking about you know, they had a big

1000
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:44,119
foot encounter and it showed paranormal type activity, right, and

1001
00:48:44,119 --> 00:48:46,039
and people are like, well, you know that's impossible that

1002
00:48:46,119 --> 00:48:50,159
there's a physical creature. Well, if these creatures, if they're remnant,

1003
00:48:50,199 --> 00:48:55,320
if they if their ancestors are half half physical and

1004
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,039
the other half is a spiritual entity that went astray,

1005
00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:03,760
maybe they do have paranormal type abilities. Not every single one,

1006
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,079
just like you know when you have a family of people,

1007
00:49:06,199 --> 00:49:08,239
not every person is going to be the same height.

1008
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,280
Not every person's gonna be able to display the same

1009
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,679
physical talents, but they do have similarities because they all

1010
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,880
come from the same family. It makes me wonder if

1011
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,679
sometimes these creatures, some of these creatures display these paranormal

1012
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,480
type abilities, is because they somewhere in their gene pool,

1013
00:49:23,519 --> 00:49:27,039
they got that gene that was passed down through generations.

1014
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,679
That's just like I, like I say, with everything, I

1015
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,440
don't know, but I'm just thinking out loud, and that's

1016
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,000
what I do. I just think out loud and say

1017
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,079
what you want. But that's kind of how I look

1018
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:39,639
at things. And once again I forget what the question was.

1019
00:49:42,159 --> 00:49:46,119
Speaker 5: You need to slow down on the coffee man. What

1020
00:49:46,159 --> 00:49:48,119
do you think, Brent, do you think there's an increase

1021
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,119
in and you can apply it more than descryptids, but

1022
00:49:51,159 --> 00:49:54,559
I mean like paranormal activity aliens. Do you think there's

1023
00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:58,960
an overall increase going on? And if so, why, I

1024
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,320
think there. I think it's it's manyfold.

1025
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,519
Speaker 7: But I think, yeah, I think that there are the Well,

1026
00:50:06,199 --> 00:50:09,519
we definitely know that people are probably now more than

1027
00:50:09,559 --> 00:50:13,800
ever more prone to discuss what they've seen because of

1028
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,960
the social acceptance or better acceptance within our society to

1029
00:50:19,079 --> 00:50:21,599
discuss these kind of things, because you know, years ago

1030
00:50:21,639 --> 00:50:25,079
you talked about seeing a flying saucer and you just

1031
00:50:25,119 --> 00:50:27,199
became that guy, you know, I mean you were just

1032
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,679
kind of ostracized, and the same thing for bigfoot or

1033
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,559
any you know, ghosts and such. But I think I

1034
00:50:34,599 --> 00:50:37,840
think that now it's okay to have these discussions, or

1035
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,400
at least there's places for people to have these discussions

1036
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,960
where there never was before, And that of course can

1037
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,760
be part of the attribution of an uptick in in

1038
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:51,239
reported sightings and events. But I think, you know, I

1039
00:50:51,519 --> 00:50:56,400
think that it seems like there are more of things

1040
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:00,719
like bigfoot around, and you know, I don't know whether

1041
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,800
it's just more people are coming forward or I've heard

1042
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:08,079
theories bounced down around about this, and some of them

1043
00:51:08,119 --> 00:51:09,880
seem to make sense to me. And one of the

1044
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,159
things that I heard, and this could probably be a

1045
00:51:12,159 --> 00:51:14,840
whole different show in itself, but you know, perhaps when

1046
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,000
the smallpox blankets were given to the First Nations people,

1047
00:51:19,039 --> 00:51:24,119
there's accounts going around in the First Nations of having

1048
00:51:24,159 --> 00:51:27,079
contact at least to some degree with these beings. And

1049
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,880
is it possible that small smallpox had spread into cryptid populations.

1050
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,119
I don't know, but if they have a similar physiology,

1051
00:51:34,159 --> 00:51:37,159
would they also be decimated by that? And maybe now

1052
00:51:37,159 --> 00:51:41,000
we're seeing a recovery of sorts. Maybe it's just easier

1053
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,400
for them to survive now, so it's easier to have

1054
00:51:43,559 --> 00:51:51,079
their increase population numbers because of their ability to adapt

1055
00:51:51,159 --> 00:51:54,840
to our presence, and probably in a favorable way, Like

1056
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,480
they don't have to you know, go scrape tree bark anymore.

1057
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,320
They can just hit a dumpster or something like that,

1058
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,360
you know. I you know, there's ideas like that around.

1059
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:07,360
It's hard to know for sure because unless you've seen it,

1060
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,119
I guess it's hard hard to say. But those are

1061
00:52:10,159 --> 00:52:12,519
my ideas on it. I think that that it's just better.

1062
00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:16,679
It's easier now to have these discussions, and it does

1063
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,440
seem like there's more of them going on.

1064
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 4: But I don't know if that's the case or if

1065
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:21,840
that's just a perception.

1066
00:52:22,519 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 5: I know John has an interesting question, he posted it

1067
00:52:26,079 --> 00:52:26,760
on Facebook.

1068
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 2: But before we get to that, don what do you think?

1069
00:52:29,079 --> 00:52:29,960
What's your take on that?

1070
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 8: You know, I think that these I think it's very

1071
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:40,719
possible that these things, whether they be paranormal, cryptid, you know, alien,

1072
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:47,400
I think it's all viable. I think it's all possible. Therefore,

1073
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,800
I think that a lot of people have had experiences

1074
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,639
that they just don't know how to come out and

1075
00:52:51,679 --> 00:52:54,320
talk about. And I agree with Brent on a lot

1076
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,079
of things when it comes to this. You know, I

1077
00:52:56,079 --> 00:52:59,599
think it's because you know, people like you know, Art

1078
00:52:59,639 --> 00:53:02,960
Bell and all these great people that brought it out

1079
00:53:03,039 --> 00:53:06,280
in the late eighties and early nineties, and just the

1080
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,800
evolution of this kind of talk show or podcast or

1081
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,159
whatever it is, you know Ted Lohman in Arizona in

1082
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:17,880
nineteen ninety five. You know, just all these people made

1083
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:22,000
it possible for us to have an outlet to either

1084
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:25,960
talk about our experiences or talk with people who have

1085
00:53:26,639 --> 00:53:29,159
these experiences. So I don't think it's necessarily an uptick

1086
00:53:29,199 --> 00:53:33,440
in sightings or paranormal activity or alien you know, abductions.

1087
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,440
I just think I, like I said, like Brent said,

1088
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,320
I think it's just the availability to be heard and

1089
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,760
say the things that you need to say and not

1090
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:48,280
necessarily be believed, but not become the pariah, you know.

1091
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,800
I think it's just a lot of a growth within

1092
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:54,840
society in general.

1093
00:53:55,519 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 6: You know, now that I listen to you guys show

1094
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,519
those answers, I realized, I don't think I have actually

1095
00:54:00,559 --> 00:54:08,440
answered that question. Oh so I guess what I'll say is.

1096
00:54:08,559 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 10: I agree with friends.

1097
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,559
Speaker 2: Okay, Tony's like I concur.

1098
00:54:18,039 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 6: Yeah. Sometimes I just get going and I lose track

1099
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,840
and my mind goes off on a million different directions.

1100
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,239
When I come back back around, everybody's just looking me,

1101
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:30,440
you know, like okay, So I'll just.

1102
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 4: Sit in here with puzzled looks on her faces. That

1103
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:35,480
was great, It was good.

1104
00:54:35,599 --> 00:54:37,679
Speaker 5: You know one of the no I think you answered it,

1105
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,559
Tony John, He said, I always wondered why people who

1106
00:54:41,599 --> 00:54:44,480
have had encounters usually have more than one encounter.

1107
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 2: I would guesstimate ninety percent of.

1108
00:54:46,679 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 5: Your guests have had one or more more than one encounter,

1109
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:55,480
whether it be sasquatch, dog man, aliens, et cetera. Most

1110
00:54:55,519 --> 00:54:58,199
people have never had an encounter, but the ones who

1111
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,559
have have multiple counters.

1112
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 4: Why, great question. I don't know.

1113
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,679
Speaker 7: I'll just start quick. I don't know why that is.

1114
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,840
And here's the thing. Now, I know, I know I

1115
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,519
host a show and it's a paranormal show. And isn't

1116
00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:14,679
it really convenient that I can say I've had several

1117
00:55:14,679 --> 00:55:16,280
paranormal occurrences.

1118
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,639
Speaker 4: Honest to God, they're true. Why I don't know. Is

1119
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,199
it maybe that.

1120
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 7: Something happened during one of them that just changed my

1121
00:55:24,679 --> 00:55:27,719
ability to perceive things? I don't know. I've wondered that

1122
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:32,000
very same thing. But it's really common in cases of

1123
00:55:32,039 --> 00:55:36,719
people seeing UFOs, if they see one, there's a really

1124
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,239
high percentage chance that they're going to have another sighting.

1125
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:45,320
And you know, I've heard that, like in things like sasquatch.

1126
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,840
I heard Bear talk about it, and he's like, you know,

1127
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,639
you just have to know how to look. Bear is

1128
00:55:50,679 --> 00:55:53,440
talking about there's you know, you can't look at the trees.

1129
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,280
You got to look between the trees. And once you

1130
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,639
learn how to do that you'll see him everywhere. So

1131
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,639
maybe that's something that happens in Bigfoot Bounce, is that

1132
00:56:01,079 --> 00:56:03,840
people just learn how to see them and then suddenly

1133
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,159
they're not as hidden anymore.

1134
00:56:05,639 --> 00:56:07,559
Speaker 4: I don't know, though. That's a great question, but I

1135
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:08,760
wish I had the answer.

1136
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, Brent, I agree with you, man, Like I think,

1137
00:56:13,599 --> 00:56:15,840
I think a lot of it's situational. You have to

1138
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,000
put yourself in the situation, you know. And I think

1139
00:56:18,079 --> 00:56:21,960
people who are having recurring encounters they're they're living in

1140
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:26,039
a situation where it's it's fruitful to have encounters, whether

1141
00:56:26,119 --> 00:56:28,400
they're having them on their property because their property is

1142
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,880
right in the middle of this Sasquatch territory, or they

1143
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,840
really enjoy hiking and camping and they go out all

1144
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,079
the time and they have these experiences. On the paranormal

1145
00:56:38,119 --> 00:56:40,599
line of things, I have a paranormal show, and I

1146
00:56:40,639 --> 00:56:43,039
don't have a whole lot of paranormal experiences. It's one

1147
00:56:43,039 --> 00:56:45,280
of the things that fascinates me about is I get

1148
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,000
to hear people's encounter stories and I'm just like, Wow,

1149
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:49,480
I don't know how you went through it, Because if I

1150
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,360
actually had that experience, I'm wanting to do this show,

1151
00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:55,079
you know, So I think it's people are put in,

1152
00:56:55,280 --> 00:57:00,000
putting themselves in situations to have these types of experiences

1153
00:56:59,679 --> 00:57:04,119
as far as cryptids go, and I think that it's

1154
00:57:04,159 --> 00:57:06,320
a lot to do with it, a whole lot as

1155
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:10,360
far as paranormal stuff goes. I think it's I don't know.

1156
00:57:10,519 --> 00:57:12,079
I think there's a lot of factors that can go

1157
00:57:12,119 --> 00:57:14,920
into that. I mean, are you living in a haunted home?

1158
00:57:15,079 --> 00:57:18,679
Are you a haunted individual? Are there people in your

1159
00:57:18,719 --> 00:57:22,119
family that are haunted individuals that this kind of goes on?

1160
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,239
How many times do you guys hear somebody telling a

1161
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,440
story and they're like, and this is something that my

1162
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,760
grandmother went through, my mother went through, all the women

1163
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,519
on my side of the family go through it. It's

1164
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,880
it seems like it's a generational thing. And so I

1165
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,719
think a lot of it if I don't know if

1166
00:57:36,719 --> 00:57:39,280
situational is the right word, but that's the word I'm using.

1167
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,599
It seems situational, like are you in a situation that

1168
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,840
is conducid to these kind of experiences?

1169
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 4: Right? And there is you know, in terms of like

1170
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,440
ghosts and stuff. I mean, there's there.

1171
00:57:50,679 --> 00:57:53,159
Speaker 7: It seems that the more the more gifted a person

1172
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:58,400
is likely with latent or actual realize psychic ability, the

1173
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:02,719
more likely they are to have hauntings or contact with spirits.

1174
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,599
And and there's a belief in that situation where those

1175
00:58:05,639 --> 00:58:09,079
people act as maybe like a beacon. We've all heard

1176
00:58:09,119 --> 00:58:12,119
of the stories of these spirits that have unfinished business

1177
00:58:12,159 --> 00:58:14,480
or they just want to tell their story, and that

1178
00:58:14,599 --> 00:58:17,360
kind of creates a closure for them to be able

1179
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,880
to transition to you know, what's next.

1180
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 4: And uh so.

1181
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 7: That that, of course, if you have a lot of

1182
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,199
if you have a lot of haunting experiences, there's a

1183
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,639
chance you might actually have some ability that you're not

1184
00:58:28,719 --> 00:58:30,920
aware of, and you might want to look into that.

1185
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, for an upcoming show, here's a good one. Barry

1186
00:58:34,239 --> 00:58:38,079
wants to know flying cryptids. Why don't more investigators study

1187
00:58:38,119 --> 00:58:40,960
these like the thunderbird? And to be honest with you,

1188
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:42,559
I don't really get a whole lot of those. What

1189
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,840
have you guys looked into flying cryptids?

1190
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:46,719
Speaker 4: We've covered them on our show.

1191
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,039
Speaker 7: You know there's some there's some accounts of flying cryptids

1192
00:58:50,079 --> 00:58:52,280
that I just can't get my head around. When you're

1193
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,960
I mean, there's a there's a batsquatch apparently, so it's

1194
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,400
it's basically a sasquatch, but it's.

1195
00:58:58,239 --> 00:58:59,679
Speaker 4: Got bat wings and it flies around.

1196
00:58:59,679 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 7: Now that's it's got to be like twelve hundred pounds

1197
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,880
of meat and I don't know how you get that

1198
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,880
off the ground with bat wings, you know. So, I mean,

1199
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:07,280
for me, there's a lot of it that I just

1200
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,880
can't get my head around. And quite honestly, you're right,

1201
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,039
those those accounts are really rare, and it's hard to

1202
00:59:13,039 --> 00:59:16,639
build a whole narrative around very little information.

1203
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's also something just with you know,

1204
00:59:20,599 --> 00:59:23,000
why do you know we don't have a ton of

1205
00:59:24,519 --> 00:59:27,840
marine cryptids, you know, sightings, but the most we have

1206
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,599
are the ones that are on land. Why because we're

1207
00:59:29,599 --> 00:59:31,440
on land, we don't fly, We don't swim around in

1208
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,039
the ocean all day. You know. It's a very just

1209
00:59:34,079 --> 00:59:37,519
simple answer, but it's true, you know, I mean, unless

1210
00:59:37,519 --> 00:59:39,039
you're breaking your neck all day looking up in the

1211
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,079
skies hoping to see a dinosaur flying by. I mean, really,

1212
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,199
how many times are we going to come across these things?

1213
00:59:44,199 --> 00:59:46,320
It's when they land, when they're in a tree, or

1214
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:47,960
you know, when we do see them flying in an

1215
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,480
open sky. But when we have these crypti encounters where

1216
00:59:51,559 --> 00:59:55,039
like it's bigfoot dog man or whatever. You know, We're

1217
00:59:55,039 --> 00:59:57,719
in the woods. We're hunting, we're fishing, we're camping, we're hiking.

1218
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:02,199
We're out there in the woods. But a large percentage

1219
01:00:02,199 --> 01:00:04,239
of the population isn't in the ocean all day or

1220
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:08,440
in deep diving in big lakes or you know, hang

1221
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:09,679
gliding off of cliffs.

1222
01:00:10,679 --> 01:00:13,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, Rich wants to know who wins a fight between

1223
01:00:13,519 --> 01:00:14,239
West and Tony.

1224
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 6: I'll let Breton don answer that because I already know

1225
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:19,199
what the answer is for me.

1226
01:00:21,679 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 7: You know, I don't know. I'm gonna just say that.

1227
01:00:24,199 --> 01:00:25,880
You know, we're all just gonna get along.

1228
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 5: I'd never fight a friend, plus, no one actually wins

1229
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:30,280
a fight, but for the record, I.

1230
01:00:30,239 --> 01:00:35,159
Speaker 4: Would, okoyness, that's true. Maybe that's true.

1231
01:00:35,239 --> 01:00:35,519
Speaker 10: I don't know.

1232
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,599
Speaker 5: Did you guys see that mystery or flying over Kansas City?

1233
01:00:42,199 --> 01:00:45,159
The National Weather Service said, we honestly have no explanation

1234
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,239
for the floating objects over Kansas City. I threw it

1235
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,920
up on sas watch chronicles dot com. Do you get

1236
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:51,960
a chance to look out of Tony.

1237
01:00:52,559 --> 01:00:54,119
Speaker 6: No, I didn't get a chance to look at it.

1238
01:00:54,159 --> 01:00:56,239
I mean I looked at it briefly, but not you know,

1239
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,639
in depth, but I saw that they had some kind

1240
01:00:59,639 --> 01:01:02,880
of like mapping or or something like that. I guess

1241
01:01:02,679 --> 01:01:05,159
the path that took or something like that. I'm not sure,

1242
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:09,480
but I saw the pictures, and you know, it looks

1243
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,639
like an orb to me. It's hard to tell because

1244
01:01:12,639 --> 01:01:13,480
it's so far away.

1245
01:01:14,199 --> 01:01:16,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, Brent and Don, if you guys get a chance,

1246
01:01:16,719 --> 01:01:18,639
check it out. It's up on the website and it's

1247
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,760
I don't know if it's a balloon or it's kind

1248
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:25,000
of bizarre looking and you see planes kind of kind

1249
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:29,840
of passing by it. You know, the orbs that like

1250
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,000
what you guys deal with, Brent and Don. You know,

1251
01:01:33,079 --> 01:01:36,639
people will show pictures or videos of orbs flying around

1252
01:01:36,679 --> 01:01:39,320
and ghost hauntings and that sort of thing. And I

1253
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,800
think when you get more into the cryptid world, when

1254
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,119
we talk about orbs or balls of light, seems like

1255
01:01:44,159 --> 01:01:44,920
balls of light.

1256
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 2: People say orbs. Do you guys notice the difference between

1257
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,440
like a ghostly orb and a ball of light?

1258
01:01:51,519 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, there seems to be a pretty I mean, there's

1259
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,280
there's like three kind of orbs, it seems to me.

1260
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,360
There's the spiritual orb, which is about the size of

1261
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,960
a quarter or fifty cent piece generally some people report

1262
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,440
them as big as basketball, but I think those are

1263
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:09,159
really rare. And then there's the ones that seem to

1264
01:02:09,199 --> 01:02:11,760
run around the woods and mountains and stuff. And then

1265
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,519
there seems to be a UFO style of orb as well.

1266
01:02:14,599 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 4: And I don't know.

1267
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,719
Speaker 7: If they're all into related or what, but I mean

1268
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,440
the spirit orbs. Of course, you see the photos out there,

1269
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:26,079
and anytime there's a lens flare, people like, oh there's orbs.

1270
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 4: Your loved ones are all around you.

1271
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:32,719
Speaker 7: It's like, you know, I do photography as well, And yeah,

1272
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:34,840
it can be dust, it can be like, you know,

1273
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,239
any kind of precipitation in the air if they're outside,

1274
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:41,599
can be you know, bugs flying. You know, there's so

1275
01:02:41,599 --> 01:02:44,679
many things it can be. And I honestly, I've seen

1276
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:49,199
very very very few representations of what people claim are

1277
01:02:49,239 --> 01:02:51,400
spirit orbs. I would say less than one percent that

1278
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:55,119
I would say actually have a chance. So now I

1279
01:02:55,199 --> 01:02:57,360
have seen a spirit orb in real life and like

1280
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:59,719
right in front of my face and it was like

1281
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,119
there's glowing yellow ball, but it was about the size

1282
01:03:02,119 --> 01:03:04,079
of a quarter and it was about two feet in

1283
01:03:04,079 --> 01:03:06,360
front of my face. And another time I saw one

1284
01:03:06,559 --> 01:03:09,599
going around the floor about at knee level, and it

1285
01:03:09,639 --> 01:03:11,800
didn't look anything like what I saw in those pictures

1286
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:13,800
most of the time. So I think that a lot

1287
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:17,519
of times people really misrepresent you know, the lens flares

1288
01:03:17,559 --> 01:03:21,679
and and light reflections from a flash as an ORB.

1289
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,719
But the spirit ones or the ones in the woodlands,

1290
01:03:25,159 --> 01:03:26,920
I think are the ones that really intrigued me the

1291
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,800
most because and Wes, it was on your show. I

1292
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,639
think you were talking about these investigators that were out

1293
01:03:32,639 --> 01:03:35,039
looking for bigfoot and they saw this orb and then

1294
01:03:35,079 --> 01:03:37,679
it became it like popped into something else.

1295
01:03:38,519 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 4: Am I are you? Do you remember the show that

1296
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:41,639
I'm talking about?

1297
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:43,239
Speaker 2: No, I can't think of that one.

1298
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:48,079
Speaker 7: It was like there's two guys out there investigating for

1299
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,800
a bigfoot and I don't remember the area they were in,

1300
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,239
but they were. They were up and and looking around

1301
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:59,000
and they had this this weird light orb appear and

1302
01:03:59,039 --> 01:04:01,679
then as the watching it, they had a flashlight and

1303
01:04:02,639 --> 01:04:04,400
it landed on the path in front of them, and

1304
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,239
it turned like suddenly there was like these two little

1305
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,800
I don't know, I'm looking things growling at them or something.

1306
01:04:11,719 --> 01:04:13,559
Maybe maybe it wasn't your show. I thought for sure

1307
01:04:13,559 --> 01:04:13,920
I heard it.

1308
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:15,639
Speaker 2: We're talking about Adam Davies.

1309
01:04:15,719 --> 01:04:18,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, when he was out at Matthew Johnson's thing and

1310
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,119
he said that red thing opened up and two beings

1311
01:04:21,119 --> 01:04:21,559
came out.

1312
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1313
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I mean that's really curious.

1314
01:04:26,239 --> 01:04:29,519
Speaker 6: I think Matthew Johnson on your show, Wes, what's that

1315
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:31,960
you should have Matthew Johnson on your show.

1316
01:04:33,519 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1317
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:39,039
Speaker 5: I interviewed him one time and he yeah, I interviewed

1318
01:04:39,119 --> 01:04:41,360
him one time, long, long time ago.

1319
01:04:42,719 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 6: I know, I'm just trying to beg you.

1320
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:50,039
Speaker 8: You know, I was just, you know, I instantly when

1321
01:04:50,079 --> 01:04:52,639
somebody says you should look something up, I do. And

1322
01:04:52,719 --> 01:04:55,880
so I see this report from the end of June,

1323
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,920
and I don't see any video because my my laptop's

1324
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:02,800
slower than my grandma. But you know, it says social

1325
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,880
media was ignited by this news many of the speculations

1326
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:10,039
that an alienation was taking place. However, it turns out

1327
01:05:10,079 --> 01:05:15,920
to be supposedly DARPA and something called adaptable Lighter than error,

1328
01:05:16,039 --> 01:05:21,760
the ALTA program, and they're supposed to be basically high

1329
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:26,199
altitude lighter than air vehicles. So you know, it's it's

1330
01:05:26,239 --> 01:05:30,480
hard to tell anything because of the disinformation possible disinformation,

1331
01:05:31,679 --> 01:05:34,960
and you know, the different aspects of the people seeing it. Now,

1332
01:05:35,159 --> 01:05:37,000
apparently there was a lot of people that saw it,

1333
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,599
But then you have to get into individual accounts of it.

1334
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,280
And what I've always found is that no two accounts

1335
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,199
are alike. I mean, just like when you know, if

1336
01:05:47,199 --> 01:05:49,039
you if you, if you've listened to the show, or

1337
01:05:49,119 --> 01:05:51,360
you know you you you know a little bit about me.

1338
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,079
I have a background as well and as in corrections,

1339
01:05:54,639 --> 01:05:58,280
and so you know, you talk to one person and

1340
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,679
they've got a great story. You talk to another person

1341
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,360
the story is totally different. But they were standing right

1342
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,840
next to each other. They had the same experience. So

1343
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,159
who knows what the heck it was.

1344
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,119
Speaker 2: Don't are you talking about that Kansas City.

1345
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:11,159
Speaker 6: Or Kansas City?

1346
01:06:11,239 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I saw that too.

1347
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, And somebody, as a matter of fact, somebody at

1348
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,880
work mentioned it to me the other day, and they're

1349
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:25,039
they're pretty heavy into the conspiracy community, and so you know,

1350
01:06:25,519 --> 01:06:27,079
it was being put to me that, yeah, these are

1351
01:06:27,119 --> 01:06:29,679
being pushing around by next rad Radar and and it's

1352
01:06:29,719 --> 01:06:31,840
you know, it's got everything to do with geo engineering

1353
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:32,480
and blah blah.

1354
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah.

1355
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,639
Speaker 8: So you know, I would rather look out and say,

1356
01:06:35,679 --> 01:06:37,760
you know, what it was an alien invasion, but there's

1357
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,519
you know, just no proof of that. So it's just

1358
01:06:40,559 --> 01:06:42,679
me being the skeptical.

1359
01:06:43,599 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 2: Just being Debbie Downer, like Donnie Downer.

1360
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:54,679
Speaker 4: By the way, it's much beard for a Debbie, you know.

1361
01:06:54,719 --> 01:06:56,679
Speaker 7: It's I'm looking at that too, and it's like, uh,

1362
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,840
they're talking about these darbas later than air vehicles, saying, well,

1363
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:01,559
you mean a balloon.

1364
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's called exactly.

1365
01:07:07,039 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 7: It's like they don't just get to reinvent something just

1366
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:10,519
because they made a balloon.

1367
01:07:12,039 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 8: I was wondering where all the helium has been going lately.

1368
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,159
Speaker 6: Well, I'll tell you. I mean the UFOs that are,

1369
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,280
you know, popping up in the news now and stuff

1370
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:25,679
is an intriguing thing though. Uh the fact that don

1371
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,360
and uh Brent or Brenton don however you say it.

1372
01:07:29,679 --> 01:07:30,119
Speaker 4: Uh.

1373
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,719
Speaker 6: I I was on your show the other day and

1374
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,679
we were talking about this. But I mean, I don't

1375
01:07:35,719 --> 01:07:38,960
remember a time in my lifetime that UFOs have been

1376
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:42,079
talked about this much in mainstream media, to the point

1377
01:07:42,079 --> 01:07:44,599
that I have people in my everyday life that think

1378
01:07:44,639 --> 01:07:46,599
I'm a goofball for doing the things that I do,

1379
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:48,599
talking to me and say, hey, did you see the

1380
01:07:48,599 --> 01:07:51,920
news last night, they're talking about UFOs and they're talking

1381
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,119
about the military knows about it. I'm like, I know

1382
01:07:54,239 --> 01:07:57,679
this already, move on subject like this is and that

1383
01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:59,719
this is the problem that we're in, and here we go.

1384
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:01,559
I'm sorry if my wires getting cross.

1385
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:01,519
Speaker 8: But.

1386
01:08:03,039 --> 01:08:05,679
Speaker 6: We're in't a problem right now where we're so focused

1387
01:08:05,679 --> 01:08:08,119
on certain things in mainstream media. We're being brainwashed by

1388
01:08:08,119 --> 01:08:10,440
certain things in mainstream media. We have blinders on and

1389
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,519
we don't look around to see what else is going on.

1390
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,680
The news that the Pentagon was investigating UFOs dropped in

1391
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,640
two thousand and seven. That's two years ago, and we're

1392
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,199
just talking about now because two years ago we are

1393
01:08:22,239 --> 01:08:25,239
still a mess of a country because of the elections

1394
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,760
and so like people are this is all new to them.

1395
01:08:29,039 --> 01:08:32,319
But the fact is, yes, the government has been investigating it,

1396
01:08:32,319 --> 01:08:35,159
and yes they changed the way that they approach UFO

1397
01:08:35,239 --> 01:08:37,319
settings by the people who are serving in the military

1398
01:08:37,359 --> 01:08:39,000
so they can feel free to come forward and share

1399
01:08:39,039 --> 01:08:41,840
what they saw. And now videos are coming up like

1400
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,319
the tic tac UFO. The reason why they call it

1401
01:08:44,359 --> 01:08:46,960
TikTok is because it actually looks like a tictac. One

1402
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,159
of the interesting things about that, and I think Bob

1403
01:08:49,239 --> 01:08:52,119
Lazar brought it up on his interview with Joe Rogan.

1404
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:54,840
But the way it moves in the video, it lifts

1405
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:58,359
up and it goes vertical in the video, and he said,

1406
01:08:58,359 --> 01:09:02,039
that's exactly what it would do according to the technology

1407
01:09:02,039 --> 01:09:03,960
that he worked on. And I think it was what

1408
01:09:04,199 --> 01:09:06,119
S four right. It wasn't area fifty one. It was

1409
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like a subcategory which was S four, I believe is

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where he was actually working on these technologies. But this

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01:09:13,239 --> 01:09:15,840
stuff is popping up all over the news. I think

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01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,520
it's something that really takes serious and everybody's you know,

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01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:22,479
all caught up in how it's being presented, and they're

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upset on the so called disclosure that's going on now,

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and it's not what they were expecting because they want

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01:09:30,079 --> 01:09:33,239
they want. What they want is aliens to drop down

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01:09:33,239 --> 01:09:35,359
from the sky on the on the front lawn of

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01:09:35,399 --> 01:09:39,119
the White House and be like, we're here, like it

1419
01:09:39,199 --> 01:09:41,159
or not deal with it. But that's not how this

1420
01:09:41,279 --> 01:09:43,640
is going, right, And so you know, we're we're they're

1421
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:47,600
gently talking about it into the news and it's it's

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01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:49,520
what we need to do, though, is we need to

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01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:55,159
stop and look at this and say what else is real? Now?

1424
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,840
And for us we do that all the time. But

1425
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,720
the people who are living there every day lives going

1426
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:04,479
about things, not thinking about this stuff and thinking Bigfoot's fake,

1427
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,600
Oh that's a fake, that that everything's fake, UFOs, aliens, demons,

1428
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:12,000
everything's fake. Well, as this disclosure happens and we progress

1429
01:10:12,079 --> 01:10:13,800
more and more too, because I really do believe it's

1430
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:15,640
going to get deeper and deeper as time goes on.

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Now we have they not we, They have to stop

1432
01:10:19,359 --> 01:10:23,079
and think and say, okay, what what if within the

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01:10:23,119 --> 01:10:25,680
next ten years the government, all the world governments come

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01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,520
out and say, yes, aliens are real. We have confirmed

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01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:34,520
that these UFOs are manned by extraterrestrials, and that comes

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01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:38,640
out all the people who were naysayers to these kind

1437
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:42,479
of ideas. They have to stop and think what else

1438
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,600
is real? And I really think that that that that

1439
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:47,880
might have a domino effect for a lot of other

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categories outside of the UFO phenomenon.

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01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 4: I hope, so, I really do.

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01:10:54,159 --> 01:10:56,319
Speaker 7: But you know the other thing is is how hard

1443
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,640
I mean, if you look at some of the explanations

1444
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,119
for for some of the stuff that goes around, I mean,

1445
01:11:01,159 --> 01:11:06,039
some of the attempts at debunking it are more more fantastic.

1446
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:07,279
Speaker 4: To than just saying, well it's a ghost.

1447
01:11:07,359 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 7: I mean, it can just they can come up with

1448
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:14,199
these just fantastical narratives of stupidity to try to still

1449
01:11:14,239 --> 01:11:17,720
remain in their paradigm. You know, It's like people defend

1450
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:21,359
their paradigm just death with tooth and nail. They just

1451
01:11:21,399 --> 01:11:23,479
don't want to give it up because I mean, and

1452
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:26,279
and I understand it. They want that comfort. They want

1453
01:11:26,359 --> 01:11:28,920
to know what the world is, and when they don't know,

1454
01:11:29,039 --> 01:11:31,000
suddenly it's scary again, and they don't like that.

1455
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 4: But I hope so I really do.

1456
01:11:34,239 --> 01:11:37,159
Speaker 6: I'll tell you a quick story. A guy at work,

1457
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,439
you know, he always ragging on me about the Bigfoot thing,

1458
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,920
and he said to me one day it is something like,

1459
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:46,039
you know, I can't believe you believe in Bigfoot. And

1460
01:11:46,079 --> 01:11:47,800
I looked at him and I was like, yeah, you know,

1461
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:50,479
it is what it is. I said, do you now

1462
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,000
he's he's a Christian, you know, all that stuff goes

1463
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:57,920
to church. And he I said, well, you believe in UFOs, right,

1464
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:01,000
I mean, everybody sees UFOs. You can him online. Everything's

1465
01:12:01,039 --> 01:12:04,399
like nope, like you don't believe in UFOs. Nope, I said, okay,

1466
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:06,560
so I guess aliens are out of the question, right, Yep,

1467
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,199
aliens are out of the question. I said to him, well,

1468
01:12:09,319 --> 01:12:12,600
I mean you believe in God, right, absolutely, I believe

1469
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,600
in God. I said, only you believe demons, right, And

1470
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,279
he's like, nope, don't believe in demons. I'm like, you

1471
01:12:17,279 --> 01:12:19,640
don't believe in demons and he said nope, And I said,

1472
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,079
so the only thing you believe that is there's a God.

1473
01:12:22,119 --> 01:12:25,000
But there's nothing else, and not even the the arch

1474
01:12:25,159 --> 01:12:27,520
enemy of God, right nope.

1475
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 7: Okay, Wow, that's that's cherry picking your your your ideology.

1476
01:12:33,399 --> 01:12:36,560
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that sounds pretty good. I only believe in leprechauns.

1477
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 6: That's all I believe in, right because I can get

1478
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:41,039
a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

1479
01:12:41,079 --> 01:12:41,560
Speaker 4: Exactly.

1480
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:44,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, people like that, correct me up.

1481
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,239
Speaker 4: That's awesome. Wow, that's craziness.

1482
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:52,279
Speaker 5: Thanks guys for coming on. It was fun chatting with

1483
01:12:52,319 --> 01:12:56,239
you guys. Tony Merkle The Confessionals every Tuesday. He's got

1484
01:12:56,239 --> 01:13:00,600
a show on iTunes and all your other podcasts. Definitely

1485
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:04,159
check out the Confessionals dot com or the Confessionals podcast

1486
01:13:04,239 --> 01:13:08,359
dot com and then Brent and Don you guys got

1487
01:13:08,359 --> 01:13:12,199
your show. Check out The Paranormal Portal on YouTube and

1488
01:13:12,359 --> 01:13:15,920
it's on every night seven o'clock Pacific Standard time.

1489
01:13:16,279 --> 01:13:17,159
Speaker 2: They do it live.

1490
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 5: You guys, I'm surprised you guys haven't burned out yet.

1491
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:22,039
And then you guys do a podcast three days a week,

1492
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:26,720
The Paranormal Portal. Check it out on your podcast player.

1493
01:13:27,039 --> 01:13:28,600
Anything else you guys want me to add to that.

1494
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 4: No, that was beautiful. Thanks thanks for having us on.

1495
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:33,760
We really enjoyed it cool.

1496
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on, guys.

1497
01:13:35,159 --> 01:13:35,520
Speaker 6: Help me.

1498
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 2: Her name was Lelia.

1499
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:46,199
Speaker 11: She was a princess with the Danish on EJ and

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01:13:46,359 --> 01:13:48,119
Dot Beta drawing, so.

1501
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 10: Found ben Kenobi have to put the desk dot plans.

1502
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:56,279
Speaker 2: Into the Rebellion's hands.

1503
01:13:56,359 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 12: So you can ob one had to get to all

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the ron so they stopped him too massizly to have

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01:14:03,239 --> 01:14:08,840
a drink when Han after Star Wars, Star Wars Cantinos

1506
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:14,800
the weirdest creatures You've ever seen at the Star Wars

1507
01:14:15,239 --> 01:14:21,680
Star Wars Canteenina music and Masters an old Jedi.

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01:14:21,399 --> 01:14:23,560
Speaker 10: Masters at the Stars.

1509
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:27,079
Speaker 2: His name was Solo.

1510
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 11: He was a pilot with.

1511
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 10: The blaster at his side and.

1512
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:36,239
Speaker 11: A Smile twelve pose ex why they're with chew vodka.

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01:14:36,359 --> 01:14:37,600
Speaker 4: He wasn't looking.

1514
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 10: They met with lukin.

1515
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 11: Onbi Wan about the Millennium Voca and Ducting Bay ninety

1516
01:14:44,199 --> 01:14:48,039
bos Don't Troopers and the dark with the flash of

1517
01:14:48,079 --> 01:14:50,399
Bens lights as an arm on.

1518
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 10: The bar after Star Wars Star Wars Cantinas, The weirdest

1519
01:14:56,520 --> 01:15:02,159
creatures You've ever seen a the Star Wars Star Wars

1520
01:15:02,159 --> 01:15:11,039
CANTEENA music and masters and old Jedi masters at the stars.

1521
01:15:11,159 --> 01:15:15,119
Speaker 4: Us High School space for he will never find the

1522
01:15:15,279 --> 01:15:21,199
more wretched hide scum and pillerm.

1523
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:25,560
Speaker 2: Was His name was Yoda. He was a mumpet.

1524
01:15:24,359 --> 01:15:28,119
Speaker 10: No bitter was so bad and by the way he's

1525
01:15:28,199 --> 01:15:28,880
looks dad.

1526
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:30,199
Speaker 2: He kissed his sister.

1527
01:15:31,119 --> 01:15:35,279
Speaker 10: His hand got cleaned of in that gassy buff away.

1528
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:39,159
Lucas had a lousy day, Boba that was so mean.

1529
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:42,159
Jabba had bad Hygie boy.

1530
01:15:42,159 --> 01:15:43,239
Speaker 4: Why didn't they all.

1531
01:15:43,199 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 10: Just relaxed back on time too? We at the Star

1532
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,359
Wars Star Wars Cantinas.

1533
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,520
Speaker 2: The weirdest creatures.

1534
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 10: You've ever seen A had the Star Wars Star Wars

1535
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