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Speaker 1: of transitions that we're living in and bloake, it's more
Speaker 1: exciting with each passing day. It's not a surprise to
Speaker 1: any of us that have been paying attention for a while.
Speaker 1: Shouldn't be surprised by anything.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 1: However, that's easy to say, isn't it. We're throwing curveballs
Speaker 1: all the time. If you're trying to predict exactly what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen next, good luck to you. I don't think
Speaker 1: I try to do that too much on this show.
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Speaker 1: that sort of profit, that's sure. Do not listen to
Speaker 1: my advice on that. But anyway, I mean, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's crazy town. We're all frustrated. Everybody seems upset with
Speaker 1: one another. That's the way it seems. So let's take
Speaker 1: some kind of chance to relax. We're able to do that.
Speaker 1: I know that there's all sorts of horrible things going on,
Speaker 1: and I'm not downplaying any of it, but do what
Speaker 1: you can to maintain sanity. It sounds like this is
Speaker 1: the end of the show, but it's the beginning. I'm
Speaker 1: going to read from this article here, which we'll get
Speaker 1: us really into the thickest things. I got sent this
Speaker 1: by friend of the show and to pass guests. Sam
Speaker 1: I let good old Sam. He sent me this awesome
Speaker 1: article that was posted to Yahoo Finance. It's from the ap.
Speaker 1: I'm just going to get into it here. So the
Speaker 1: title of the article is collapse of national security elites.
Speaker 1: Cyber firm Leaves Bitter Wake wrote this. The writer is
Speaker 1: Alan Suderman and it was posted Thursday, October third, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four. New article here, So I'm just going to
Speaker 1: read from a bit in the beginning of this. This
Speaker 1: gets to be a long article that's very much worth
Speaker 1: the read. So do read this. When we get a chance.
Speaker 1: I'm going to read this to a point, and then
Speaker 1: I'm going to probably sum up what I remember of
Speaker 1: the rest of it and give some commentary here.
Speaker 2: So here we go.
Speaker 1: Here's the article, once again, title collapse of National security
Speaker 1: Elites cyber firm leaves bitterwick, Washington, ap The future was
Speaker 1: once dazzling for iron Net. Founded by a former director
Speaker 1: of the National Security Agency and stacked with elite members
Speaker 1: of the US intelligence establishment, iron Net promised it was
Speaker 1: going to revolutionize the way governments and corporations combat cyber attacks.
Speaker 1: It's pitch, combining the the prowess of ex government hackers
Speaker 1: with cutting edge software, was initially a hit. Shortly after
Speaker 1: going public in twenty twenty one, the company's value shot
Speaker 1: past three billion dollars. Yet as blazing as Ironets started,
Speaker 1: it burned out blast September, the never profitable company announced
Speaker 1: it was shutting down and firing its employees after running
Speaker 1: out of money, providing yet another example of a tech
Speaker 1: firm that faltered after failing to deliver on overhyped promises.
Speaker 1: The firm's crash is left behind a trail bitter investors
Speaker 1: and former employees who remain angry at the company and
Speaker 1: believe it misled them about its financial health. Ironets rise
Speaker 1: and fall also raises questions about the judgment of its
Speaker 1: well credentialed leaders. A who's who of the national security establishment,
Speaker 1: national security experts, former employees and analysts told the Associate
Speaker 1: Press that the firm collapsed in part art because engaged
Speaker 1: in questionable business practices, produced subpar products and services, and
Speaker 1: entered into associations they could have left the firm vulnerable
Speaker 1: to meddling by the Kremlin. I'm honestly ashamed I was
Speaker 1: ever an executive at that company, said Mark Birdley, a
Speaker 1: former Ironet vice president. He said the company's top leaders
Speaker 1: cultivated a culture of deceit, just like Firanos, the once
Speaker 1: highly touted blood testing firm that became a symbol of
Speaker 1: corporate fraud. Iron Neet's collapse ranks as one of the
Speaker 1: most high profile flameouts in the history of cybersecurity, said
Speaker 1: Richard Steinen, a longtime industry analyst. The main reason for
Speaker 1: its fall, he said, hubris the company got what was
Speaker 1: coming to it. Steinen said. Iron Neet and top former
Speaker 1: company officials either declined to comment or did not respond
Speaker 1: to request for comment. Okay Okay, I'm going to take
Speaker 1: a step back from the article. There's a heading which
Speaker 1: is kind of headed weird on Yahoo Finance. It's not
Speaker 1: in bold or anything. Can't even tell it to heading.
Speaker 1: But anyway, this is heading of the general. It gets
Speaker 1: into the founder and CEO Keith Alexander. Okay, I'll read
Speaker 1: a little bit of this. I think that's founder and
Speaker 1: former CEO. Keith Alexander is a West Point graduate who
Speaker 1: retired as a four star Army general and was once
Speaker 1: the most powerful figure, one of the most powerful figures
Speaker 1: in US intelligence. He oversaw an unpresident expansion of the
Speaker 1: NSA's digital spying around the world when he led the
Speaker 1: US's largest intelligence agency for nearly a decade.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: He retired from government in twenty fourteen. He remains a
Speaker 1: prominent voice on cybersecurity. He sits on the board of
Speaker 1: Tech nine Amazon. That's zero, okay. This board has included
Speaker 1: Mike McConnell, a former director of both the NSA and
Speaker 1: National Intelligence, Jack keene, a retired for star general and
Speaker 1: Army Vice chief of Staff, and Mike Rogers, the former
Speaker 1: Republican chairman of the House Intelligence Committee who's running for
Speaker 1: the USNA in Michigan. One of Ironet's first presidents and
Speaker 1: co founders was Matt Olson, who left the company in
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen and leads the Justice Department's National Security Division. Okay, anyway,
Speaker 1: so these big shots in the intelligence community Alexander he
Speaker 1: is a former head of the NSA, founds this company
Speaker 1: iron Net. The idea was to provide cyber security for companies,
Speaker 1: and the article explains that part of the way that
Speaker 1: their service was supposed to work was that by having
Speaker 1: multiple clients, that would help them understand and see patterns
Speaker 1: in threats at all the different clients, and I guess
Speaker 1: their data would be able to like cross reference from
Speaker 1: their different companies, and then they'd have a better advantage
Speaker 1: in that, which is interesting.
Speaker 2: In and of itself.
Speaker 1: Now, the whole point here is that they didn't spend
Speaker 1: the time to make the product even work well at all.
Speaker 1: I guess they had a really good staff, Like the
Speaker 1: technicians and scientists there were actually really good to new
Speaker 1: what they were doing too. But the articles someone gripes about,
Speaker 1: you know, we never put enough resources in actually developing
Speaker 1: the product. They are always like doing this other nonsense.
Speaker 1: So yes, iron Net. It also goes on to explain
Speaker 1: something very interesting. What's the name of this investment firm?
Speaker 1: C five Capital? Here we go, let's read this venture
Speaker 1: capital firms were eager to invest. Among iron Net's biggest
Speaker 1: early boosters was C five Capital, an investment firm started
Speaker 1: and run by Andre p and R, a South African
Speaker 1: who had spent years serving the needs of the ultra
Speaker 1: rich while cultivating business relationships with former top national security officials.
Speaker 1: C five's operating partners, essentially expert advisors, include former Chairman
Speaker 1: of the US Joints Chiefs of Staff Mike Mullen and
Speaker 1: Sir Elaine Lobbin, who used used to lead the UK's
Speaker 1: Signals Intelligence Agency, Harry Cooker Junior Ronald Moultrie. Anyway, so
Speaker 1: this C five Capital becomes a major investor in Oh God,
Speaker 1: all right, forget I got in trouble with all the
Speaker 1: names of these.
Speaker 2: Things iron Net.
Speaker 1: So iron Net big investor C five. This p and
Speaker 1: R guy is the head of C five a Capital.
Speaker 1: He's in South Africa. He's got connections to some Russian oligarch.
Speaker 1: Let's see where I find that part of the artic
Speaker 1: Colnston here somewhere. Okay, So he's got p and R
Speaker 1: is also involved in the South African Manganese mind, so
Speaker 1: he's making here we go. P and R also worked
Speaker 1: at the time to help Russian oligarch Victor Weckelsberg or Wexelberg.
Speaker 1: Cement wrote Relationships London's Rich and Famous. Okay, so he's
Speaker 1: PNR is really quite the socialite, isn't he. He's connecting
Speaker 1: people together on the international stage and looks like up
Speaker 1: to no good honestly. But his firm five, which was
Speaker 1: like the major investor in iron Net, they also turn
Speaker 1: around and become the major customer to iron Net, and
Speaker 1: then they have these like huge contracts. C five ends
Speaker 1: up with these huge contracts to iron Net, which people
Speaker 1: who comment in the article were saying, like, yeah, there's
Speaker 1: no way that they needed a contract that big. It's
Speaker 1: it's absolutely ludicrous, it's silly. So that was obviously a
Speaker 1: ploy to raise the value of their stocks. So you know,
Speaker 1: there's all sorts of shenani Ins, Shenanigans going to that.
Speaker 1: From the looks of it, they didn't really care about
Speaker 1: their products so much. They're just trying to like make
Speaker 1: a bunch of money, and that's one way to do it.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, you play all these stupid financial
Speaker 1: games that amount to nothing, but if you're if you
Speaker 1: know how to goof around with the numbers, you can
Speaker 1: make a bunch of money off of it. So they're
Speaker 1: doing all this this pay and our guy's got really
Speaker 1: questionable contacts.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: They also said, I forget what officials were saying, but
Speaker 1: they're basically saying that certainly, oh that's the main guy
Speaker 1: involved in this Alexander. Alexander and company over a Dironet
Speaker 1: should have known never to get involved with C five.
Speaker 1: They should have known it was a security risk. Again,
Speaker 1: his connections to you know, the Russian oligarch and whatnot
Speaker 1: a problem. So they're real national security risks being posed
Speaker 1: by this crazy company for one thing that wasn't really
Speaker 1: doing anything for another, which I guess, you know, does
Speaker 1: that make it the fact that their security risk does
Speaker 1: not matter because they're not actually doing anything other than
Speaker 1: just making a bunch of money. That's a fun question
Speaker 1: to ask, isn't it. But it just goes on. This
Speaker 1: article is very fascinating, lots of interesting details. I'm not
Speaker 1: remembering all of them to not take notes, but I
Speaker 1: did read through the article. But the thing that take
Speaker 1: here's my commentary. The takeaway that I got from this
Speaker 1: article was Alexander big shot in intelligence.
Speaker 2: He was d of the ANSA.
Speaker 1: He was involved and said that he ended his career
Speaker 1: in public service in twenty fourteen. Right, So he was
Speaker 1: there for a decade as NSA director during what time,
Speaker 1: during the War on Terror, the War on terriers. He
Speaker 1: was there during that whole part of our nation's history.
Speaker 3: That very.
Speaker 1: Important portion of American history as it pertains to the
Speaker 1: topic of national security, and also along with it the
Speaker 1: corruption of our American system and certainly the use of
Speaker 1: national security doing things under the guise of nation security,
Speaker 1: using that as a smokescreen to do all sorts of
Speaker 1: corrupt things. So the War on Terror that whole time
Speaker 1: was really a culmination of you could take the national
Speaker 1: security state back to the National Security Act of nineteen
Speaker 1: forty seven, the post war period. If you use that
Speaker 1: as like sort of a starting historical marker, it's set
Speaker 1: in motion a chain of events that changed American foreign
Speaker 1: policy and has affected it ever since and has gone
Speaker 1: this to the point where we're at now. But certainly
Speaker 1: in the post war period National Security Act, this whole
Speaker 1: in this whole new geopolitical reality of the United States.
Speaker 1: The United States has argued to be essentially an imperial
Speaker 1: power by detractors of the United States, right. And the
Speaker 1: US has engaged in all these foreign wars where they
Speaker 1: have invaded countries not in the These are different been
Speaker 1: sorts of different sorts of wars, lots of counterinsurgency. You've
Speaker 1: got Vietnam, and you've got the first Gulf War, You've
Speaker 1: got the Second Iraq War happened because of the September eleventh,
Speaker 1: two thousand and one terror attacks. So it's all one
Speaker 1: big through line with the to me, the the tie
Speaker 1: that binds is the national security concept is we're keeping
Speaker 1: not just the United States safe, but the world's safe, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, making bringing democracy to the world, that sort
Speaker 1: of concept, right, making the world safe for democracy, going
Speaker 1: in there fighting the communists with Vietnam and whatnot. That
Speaker 1: was the guys there, but also the military industrial establishment
Speaker 1: always taking advantage of all these wars to make profits
Speaker 1: off of. And certainly I think to think about to
Speaker 1: think back to nine to eleven terror attacks and then
Speaker 1: the subsequent wars in Iraq and the Middle East. Really
Speaker 1: those those wars took place because nine to eleven was
Speaker 1: used as the explanation that we had to go to
Speaker 1: war with Iraq. That was the first war we had
Speaker 1: shortly after nine to eleven. And it was absolutely because
Speaker 1: Saddam Hussein and Iraq was were blamed generally for being
Speaker 1: a party to nine to eleven, when in reality they
Speaker 1: weren't at all. But that when when that came up,
Speaker 1: when that fact came out, it didn't matter anymore because
Speaker 1: we had already been at war and we were so
Speaker 1: caught up in that we it was never about extricating
Speaker 1: ourselves from the situation. And with Afghanistan, that made more
Speaker 1: sense to go into there, I mean, if you're tying
Speaker 1: it to nine to eleven, but still shaky. We didn't
Speaker 1: get out of Afghanistan until Biden first came into his presidency.
Speaker 1: So it's been going on for all of these years.
Speaker 1: And during that time, the national security establishment was working hard,
Speaker 1: and the certainly the Bush administration's famous for passing legislation
Speaker 1: like the Patriot Act and all these all this, so
Speaker 1: many things to curtail civil liberties in order to keep
Speaker 1: us safe from terror. Right, that was the idea, but
Speaker 1: also the legitimate legitimating things like torture abroad and you know,
Speaker 1: enhanced interrogation methods. That sort of stuff was going on
Speaker 1: as well. So all sorts of dark things were happening,
Speaker 1: the sorts of things that were being pointed out by
Speaker 1: the nine to eleven Truth movement, I think was doing
Speaker 1: a good job at pointing out all these horrible things
Speaker 1: happening to our country were happening. Minimum you couldn't you
Speaker 1: couldn't really argue the fact that things these things were
Speaker 1: happening because of the excuse that we need to keep
Speaker 1: ourselves safe from any other terrorists that might attack again,
Speaker 1: right in order to fight terror, in order to prevent
Speaker 1: it in order to keep us all safe from it happening.
Speaker 1: If it happens again, we don't want to happen again.
Speaker 1: We had to do all of these things to curtail
Speaker 1: civil liberties. We have to give the presidential executive branch
Speaker 1: of government more power. You know, the idea of the
Speaker 1: unitary executive was beefed up by the neocons who made
Speaker 1: up the Bush administration. So that was all going on.
Speaker 1: They're doing all sorts of crazy projects like these total
Speaker 1: information awareness projects and things like this. So this is
Speaker 1: where the digital surveillance aspect of our modern world was.
Speaker 1: The groundwork is being laid for that at the time,
Speaker 1: and all this, all of it was allowed because because
Speaker 1: of the historical fact of nine to eleven two thousand
Speaker 1: and one, it's like, well, okay, he can't let that
Speaker 1: happen again. So the entire War on Terror, there was
Speaker 1: so much going on. There were these really unjustified foreign
Speaker 1: skirmishes going on in the Middle East where we were
Speaker 1: going into countries under false pretexts, pretexts we were lying
Speaker 1: and then going over there and then never retracting to lie,
Speaker 1: just staying over there for long periods of time. All
Speaker 1: the while government contractors of all sorts were making money
Speaker 1: hand over fist, either like building infrastructure overseas in the
Speaker 1: war zone, or building weapons, or consulting or anything, you know,
Speaker 1: you name it. There's all sorts of money to be made.
Speaker 1: And we were fighting this enemy that was what just
Speaker 1: some this ragtag bunch of terrorists that had some underground
Speaker 1: compound in the desert somewhere that you know, we had
Speaker 1: those graphics that Donald Rumsfeld showed us.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 1: We're almost certainly not they were fantastical, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is what these this is their base. See this
Speaker 1: looked like an advertisement for some Hasbro toy or something,
Speaker 1: you know, so g I Joe said. But nonetheless, it
Speaker 1: was enough to keep the machine going. And the United
Speaker 1: States was able to pull this off because we were
Speaker 1: the pre eminent power on the global stage at the time,
Speaker 1: and we had been since the post war period. That's
Speaker 1: how we were able to do That's how this whole
Speaker 1: national security campaign through all these decades has been able
Speaker 1: to continue. It is because we've had this privileged position
Speaker 1: or economically and geopolitically, we were able to do these
Speaker 1: sorts of things and there was no repercussions. There was
Speaker 1: no challenger on the global stage that could come up
Speaker 1: and do anything about it. So we could go anywhere
Speaker 1: we want and just like make up a reason to
Speaker 1: do it and you know, lie to the the establishment,
Speaker 1: would lie to the population just to get them to
Speaker 1: go along with it. Meanwhile, the world, you know, they
Speaker 1: have varying takes on this, but basically they can see
Speaker 1: what we are doing, not really making a good name
Speaker 1: for ourselves the whole time. But it was.
Speaker 2: Easy and.
Speaker 1: Yes, those who were able to get in and make
Speaker 1: a whole lot of profits from all of this did.
Speaker 1: And Keith Alexander here who retired from I don't know
Speaker 1: if he was retired from the NSA or what, but
Speaker 1: you retired in twenty fourteen. And he was at work
Speaker 1: in the system within the government side of this, not
Speaker 1: the private side of it, but he was in government,
Speaker 1: in national security at the head of it during the
Speaker 1: War on Terror. He gets out and what I think
Speaker 1: he was trying to do here with iron Net was
Speaker 1: the old standard sort of concept of oh yeah, it's
Speaker 1: revolving door.
Speaker 2: Time.
Speaker 1: I did all my time as a big shot in
Speaker 1: national security in the government, in the military. Now now's
Speaker 1: my time to start up my own company to make
Speaker 1: a ridiculous fortune off of it. You don't take a
Speaker 1: public make a bunch of money off the.
Speaker 2: Stock all that.
Speaker 1: You know, that's what everybody does. It's going to be cybersecurity.
Speaker 1: That's my specialty. That was my area of expertise. So
Speaker 1: we're going to start up the cybersecurity company. And if
Speaker 1: it works, okay, If it doesn't, also okay, because you
Speaker 1: know that's you know, it doesn't have to work. Like
Speaker 1: look at the F thirty five. We always point to that.
Speaker 1: I always do. It's like that thing doesn't have to work,
Speaker 1: it just has to be subcontractor upon subcontractor making money
Speaker 1: off of it ridiculous amounts of parts. It's just like
Speaker 1: in RoboCop with ED two oh nine that murders a
Speaker 1: board member of OCP. It just shoots him, and then
Speaker 1: later on the film, the the head evil guy there
Speaker 1: at OCP was like, yeah, you ruined my ED two
Speaker 1: nine project. It didn't matter if it worked. We had
Speaker 1: we had contracts with the military for decades, and he
Speaker 1: just going on, like parts of labor and all of this.
Speaker 1: That's exactly it. That's how it works. That's how it
Speaker 1: has worked, and it's worked, and it's been profitable, profitable
Speaker 1: because we have had a privileged position that's allowed us
Speaker 1: to do that's all a corrupt establishment to do these
Speaker 1: sorts of things. But it's fascinating to see that this
Speaker 1: didn't iron Net did not work out for anybody involved.
Speaker 1: Certainly Alexander ends up getting egg on his face over this,
Speaker 1: and I find it striking, and I think that part
Speaker 1: of the issue here is that we're not living in
Speaker 1: the warrantaries over the glory days of the United States
Speaker 1: are gone. We have been in this transitional period for
Speaker 1: a while where we're moving towards something else. Certainly at
Speaker 1: the moment we're in the Great Powers competition that all
Speaker 1: the big shots like to tell us about. It's a
Speaker 1: Great Powers competition previously called Cold War two point zero.
Speaker 1: The tensions of the rising developing nations, the bricks countries,
Speaker 1: the big scary names being Russia, China, and Iran always
Speaker 1: pop up again and again, and certainly Russia and China
Speaker 1: being the major economic, geopolitical rivals of the United States
Speaker 1: at this time, and they are true rivals. They actually
Speaker 1: have resources, have the ability to not just sit there
Speaker 1: and watch whatever the US decides it wants to do
Speaker 1: any given year. But now there's consequences for what we do,
Speaker 1: because we're not the only kid on the block anymore.
Speaker 2: And in this.
Speaker 1: Article it did mention C five capital. There the guy
Speaker 1: who was an investor there was the Russian oligarch. The
Speaker 1: problem for anything to do with national security, cybersecurity in
Speaker 1: the US, and that.
Speaker 2: Is a problem.
Speaker 1: The oligarchs are part of their part and parcel with
Speaker 1: the Russian government with Putin, the whole system, that's their system.
Speaker 1: Putin has his guys they're the ones that are in control,
Speaker 1: and they're the elites. They have all the money, but
Speaker 1: they work for him and that's their system. So if
Speaker 1: you get any one of those guys involved, you're getting
Speaker 1: the Russian the entire Russian system.
Speaker 2: Involved.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: So anyway, I believe that iron Net was this attempt
Speaker 1: at like, oh yeah, we're it was almost like wishful
Speaker 1: thinking that the status quo here in the US. And this,
Speaker 1: of course not for this has nothing to do with
Speaker 1: the average citizen in the US, just has to do
Speaker 1: with the political elite. They were hoping that business as
Speaker 1: usual just go on forever and it's over. That's pretty
Speaker 1: wild to note. But it's not only is that significant
Speaker 1: to pull out from all this, but I do think
Speaker 1: it's one of the missing pieces if we go back
Speaker 1: to the nine to eleven truth movement and just the
Speaker 1: greater analysis of yes, the corruption of our system, the
Speaker 1: US system, and what we as a free people should
Speaker 1: do in questioning the power structure that governs US, that
Speaker 1: controls our world. We should be doing that. Absolutely, that's
Speaker 1: the right we have in this free country. That's what
Speaker 1: citizens are supposed to do in America. Redress grievances on this.
Speaker 1: That's great, that's wonderful. But the unfortunate thing is that
Speaker 1: those of us who are there calling out these real issues,
Speaker 1: this very true corruption within our system that's been here
Speaker 1: for decades. Again, this is like, this has historical precedent.
Speaker 1: This uh, this is a long story. It can be
Speaker 1: told and has been told in many, many books. Lots
Speaker 1: of different people have effectively spoken to this. The story
Speaker 1: is all there. We could pursue more avenues of inquiry,
Speaker 1: and we had ought to, but at this time, even
Speaker 1: us that are trying to do the good work of
Speaker 1: bringing the truth out and speaking truth to power, I
Speaker 1: don't think that the realization has been made in this
Speaker 1: community of truth seekers or whatever.
Speaker 2: That where we.
Speaker 1: Are part of the greater US population and our country
Speaker 1: as a whole is a different place than it was
Speaker 1: a decade ago. It's a different place than two thousand
Speaker 1: and one. It's a different place than twenty nineteen ninety nine,
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight. There's a different place than it was
Speaker 1: during the heyday of the War on Terror years. The
Speaker 1: War on Terror was like the last great hurrah of
Speaker 1: the corrupt political establishment that was using national security to
Speaker 1: do to run rough shot over everybody. The victims are
Speaker 1: victims internationally that we were invading, as well as the
Speaker 1: American populace with the stripping of our liberties and the
Speaker 1: creation of a giant technological surveillance state, which industry was
Speaker 1: given free reign over us because they're all part of
Speaker 1: the corrupt establishment too, and that became an entire business. Well,
Speaker 1: that's all still there. That's the infrastructure that's been built up.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: A big portion of this surveillance state. Infrastructure is the
Speaker 1: digital side of things, and life has become digitized, as
Speaker 1: I talk about all the time on this show. It's
Speaker 1: been set up. Yes there's a billion problems within, Yes
Speaker 1: there is corruption. However, the fact that the United States
Speaker 1: is not the sole power.
Speaker 2: We're not.
Speaker 1: Able to do things in this world without consequence anymore,
Speaker 1: and in fact, we have opened ourselves up to various
Speaker 1: forms of attack from rivals, rivals who actually have the
Speaker 1: means to do us harm now. And by us, I
Speaker 1: don't just mean the corrupt establishment that really has been
Speaker 1: reaping the benefits of this for the whole time, but us,
Speaker 1: the whole of the country, the whole of the United
Speaker 1: States country. This is the fact that the the post
Speaker 1: truth movement crowd just doesn't ever address and I frankly,
Speaker 1: I think they're scared to it hasn't come up, and
Speaker 1: so we're kind of running with these tropes that we've
Speaker 1: had this whole time, just running forward as if we're
Speaker 1: still living in the War on Terror, as if the
Speaker 1: way that we were criticizing everything during the Bush years
Speaker 1: still you just use the exact same template and apply
Speaker 1: it to everything that's happening in the world in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four, and you can't do that. Things are not
Speaker 1: the same. For instance, Hurricane Helene, the horrible natural disaster
Speaker 1: that just happened, horrendous. Of course, FEMA is having their
Speaker 1: problems as they always do with aid there, I'm surprised.
Speaker 1: But what I find interesting is that commentary from online
Speaker 1: skeptics and critics and would be true seekers, a lot
Speaker 1: of commentary is pointing out this specific point. They're saying
Speaker 1: that we can give billions of dollars to Ukraine, but
Speaker 1: we can't help out our own people in our own country.
Speaker 1: Can I understand the sentiment there, And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that's even entirely wrong. However, I do think it's an
Speaker 1: instance of using again using the template from the War
Speaker 1: on Terror that we were trying to get people on
Speaker 1: board with for so long. Now they're finally are on board.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't quite equate. So we with the Iraq war,
Speaker 1: the second one immediately after nine to eleven, let's stick
Speaker 1: that for the example here. That was the United States
Speaker 1: invading another country under false pretext, a false pretext. That
Speaker 1: was us doing something wrong. We were invading. That was
Speaker 1: the United States sin there. Now what's going on here
Speaker 1: with the Ukraine example? Russia invaded another country under false pretext.
Speaker 1: It was an act of aggression, which was wrong. Ukraine
Speaker 1: is the victim. And furthermore, if Russia gets its way
Speaker 1: in Ukraine, there are further repercussions for what might happen
Speaker 1: beyond that. So to say that, to have said that
Speaker 1: we shouldn't have given our money to the second Iraq war,
Speaker 1: I think would be legitimate, Like, hey, look the hell
Speaker 1: are we even doing We should not be doing this.
Speaker 1: No cut funding now, stop it. We're not we won't
Speaker 1: have a part of this. What we're saying now, we're
Speaker 1: trying to apply that same logic to Ukraine and saying like, look,
Speaker 1: any money given to any war is a waste of
Speaker 1: time when we should just be spending that money on
Speaker 1: us and taking care of ourselves. And that's it, And
Speaker 1: it's ignoring the it's ignoring the situation that we're in
Speaker 1: in that. And I don't know if the US is
Speaker 1: equipped for the long haul in this whole scheme of
Speaker 1: the great powers competition.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Again, I can't project where everything's going. But I just
Speaker 1: find this all fascinating that we have been trying to
Speaker 1: get people's attention that certainly the defense budget is way
Speaker 1: out of hand, and absolutely the military industrial complex, that
Speaker 1: whole establishment is just a gigantic system of waste build
Speaker 1: up to just profit off of government money. It's this
Speaker 1: whole system of how can we procure defense budget money
Speaker 1: to make ourselves, you know, to build up a whole
Speaker 1: economic system and to make yes, many people rich. That
Speaker 1: still does exist, but it itself is a major hindrance
Speaker 1: to our actual national security because that's still there and
Speaker 1: it's an entrenched special interest that just doesn't go away,
Speaker 1: and it's trying to protect itself at present. It doesn't
Speaker 1: want to go anywhere, but it is an achilles heel.
Speaker 1: And I think people are kind of fixing up, Oh
Speaker 1: you have this money for Ukraine, which yes, very much.
Speaker 1: There is this waste, and there is the military industrial
Speaker 1: complex establishment tied up with this. I think there is.
Speaker 1: You can pull apart the actual act of aggression from
Speaker 1: Russia from the corrupt system that we have, and it's
Speaker 1: just it's one giant mess. But we are in trouble now.
Speaker 1: We are in trouble because of all this cybersecurity is
Speaker 1: a real issue.
Speaker 2: But it's.
Speaker 1: Once again darkly funny to see these companies like Ironnets
Speaker 1: sort of come up fail because you could argue that
Speaker 1: they never needed to work to begin with, just like
Speaker 1: ED two nine. But maybe things like this do need
Speaker 1: to start working. And I don't know how that might
Speaker 1: work out, if it even will. Certainly the guys like
Speaker 1: Eric Schmidt are the new ones that are trying to
Speaker 1: get in and capitalize on this whole situation. And even
Speaker 1: their marketing tool to the government and to the American
Speaker 1: people is hey, look, we can do this job, but
Speaker 1: we can do it cheaper than the other guy. And yes,
Speaker 1: venture capital, private equity, that sort of thing is in
Speaker 1: on this whole scheme, and they're trying to usurp the
Speaker 1: old guard military industrial complex and that's a fascinating thing
Speaker 1: going on in the midst of all this. How many
Speaker 1: people are talking about this, I don't see many talking
Speaker 1: about it. I'll come across a handful of people that
Speaker 1: are talking about the darker side of Silicon Valley, absolutely
Speaker 1: that are trying to position themselves as the new national
Speaker 1: security establishment. But some of them have questionable ties themselves.
Speaker 1: And certainly there's so many moving parts here in the
Speaker 1: global propaganda matrix that I talk about on the show
Speaker 1: that we are all, we are all the targets of
Speaker 1: And when you look at it, these big tech billionaires
Speaker 1: seem just there. Certainly don't seem to be impervious to
Speaker 1: the global propaganda war raging at present. If anything, they
Speaker 1: seem to be like drinking the kool aid more than
Speaker 1: your most tinfoil had QAnon person Online. You read Mark
Speaker 1: Andresen's techno Utopian manifest so it reads like, you know,
Speaker 1: some maga republican alternative.
Speaker 2: Sort of person.
Speaker 1: So so there's all sorts of there's there's so many
Speaker 1: things going on that certainly we're in a different world now,
Speaker 1: and it would behoove us two. I think humble ourselves
Speaker 1: first of all, as I was saying at the beginning,
Speaker 1: take a few steps back and say, hey, look what's
Speaker 1: actually going on. Be honest about the situation, and realize
Speaker 1: that the world is it's a different place. Now, it's
Speaker 1: a different place, and that has not been accounted for
Speaker 1: by certainly enough people, hardly anybody. I don't know what's
Speaker 1: gonna take I don't know if we ever will. I
Speaker 1: don't think in the strange digital ecosystem that's just designed
Speaker 1: to confuse us, I don't know what we do going forward.
Speaker 1: I really don't look away as much as possible. Probably
Speaker 1: it's like Medusa turning it to stone. If you simply
Speaker 1: look at it, Medusa is now computer screen or a
Speaker 1: mobile device screen or whatever. The next iteration of those
Speaker 1: technologies becomes, should become more integrated with our biology with
Speaker 1: each passing step. So this is the reality. All the while,
Speaker 1: it seems as though, just as our buddy Lieutenant General
Speaker 1: Keith Alexander seem to have been resting on his laurels
Speaker 1: and sort of taking for granted his privileged position and
Speaker 1: having a fall from grace, I think the same can
Speaker 1: be said for those in the post truth movement world
Speaker 1: alternative media. I think they are in a similar position,
Speaker 1: And I would point out that they, unlike Alexander and
Speaker 1: his buddies, never really have been in a true privileged
Speaker 1: position to begin with. They're just the self proclaimed owners
Speaker 1: of truth, and those who do speak truth to power,
Speaker 1: they are the ones in charge of that whole scheme.
Speaker 1: So listen to them, And frankly, I don't think they're
Speaker 1: as smart as Alexander and his cohorts are to people
Speaker 1: in the alternative media.
Speaker 2: And if there.
Speaker 1: Hasn't been a fall from grace yet, there certainly will be.
Speaker 1: Or if there's not that, if they're really unfortunate, they're
Speaker 1: going to get everything they want, everything that they suggest
Speaker 1: that we do in order to free ourselves as an
Speaker 1: American populace from the corrupt deep state, which you could
Speaker 1: say that the deep state was real in the sense
Speaker 1: of what I was talking about, the establishment that was
Speaker 1: taking advantage of the national security state and profiting off
Speaker 1: of that. That was the deep state. Sure, but even
Speaker 1: they have set up the executive branch of government so
Speaker 1: that somebody can swoop in and basically take everything over.
Speaker 1: That's what the MAGA group is now doing. Then you
Speaker 1: get the ones who set this whole thing up with
Speaker 1: the neocons. Dick Cheney and buddies are all saying how
Speaker 1: evil Trump is and he's this terrible abomination. He'll take
Speaker 1: over and he won't let go power. Well, how do
Speaker 1: you think this whole scenario was set up to begin
Speaker 1: with the Unitary Executive? Well, Trump, Trump absolutely if he
Speaker 1: can take that and run it to its furthest conclusion, Yes,
Speaker 1: are we seeing evidence of that, and it's going even
Speaker 1: further than the neocons ever had it. Yes, with the
Speaker 1: things going on with the Supreme Court and the rulings
Speaker 1: about presidential immunity, there's a through line of that Supreme
Speaker 1: Court action and what the neocons were setting up back
Speaker 1: in the heyday of the War on Terror. So I
Speaker 1: don't really want to hear them complain about this, but
Speaker 1: it's fascinating to see that the sort of foil the
Speaker 1: Truth Movement foils to the neocons have morphed into these
Speaker 1: sycophanic cronies for this new system that's positioning itself to
Speaker 1: take the reins over from what the neocons created with
Speaker 1: the Unitary Executive, put in a guy that they think
Speaker 1: is the right one to give absolute authoritium power too
Speaker 1: and as long as they be toadies and be good
Speaker 1: about it and say everything that they're supposed to, that
Speaker 1: they'll be just fine. There will be no such thing
Speaker 1: as purges. They won't be liquidated as soon as they're
Speaker 1: deemed unuseful. That won't ever happen. The thought, I'm sure
Speaker 1: hasn't even occurred to them. They're just doing what it
Speaker 1: is that they do. This is their business, this is
Speaker 1: their job. They're just doing their job. Frankly, I think
Speaker 1: they're too stupid to understand what's actually going on.
Speaker 2: But this is just my.
Speaker 1: Little soliloquy shouting out in the darkness. And I'm sure
Speaker 1: none of those people that know more than I do
Speaker 1: are even listening to this. So it doesn't matter. Doesn't
Speaker 1: matter what I say. It doesn't matter what the truth
Speaker 1: might be, because the things that I'm saying and what
Speaker 1: the truth truly is certainly aren't completely in line. I
Speaker 1: don't know everything. Again, I am not a prophet. I
Speaker 1: wish I understood more. I'm sitting here fumbling around with
Speaker 1: crazy articles like this, doing what we can. But this
Speaker 1: is not two thousand and six anymore. That's not twenty twelve.
Speaker 1: Did the world end in twenty twelve, and we're living
Speaker 1: in some sort of fractured other dimension in the multiverse.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe, excuse me, we might that might be the greater
Speaker 1: truth of it all. But if it is, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just crazy. This is a new world. It's not
Speaker 1: ordered just yet, is it. There's not a whole lot
Speaker 1: of order. But there's a lot of different players on
Speaker 1: the stage trying to establish their order. They would like
Speaker 1: to bring order to the chaos. The I forget if
Speaker 1: it's the coat of arms or the flag or it's
Speaker 1: some One of those national symbols of Russia is the
Speaker 1: double headed eagle. Have you seen this thing?
Speaker 2: Hm?
Speaker 1: Similar to that of the Scottish rite of Freemasonry. It's
Speaker 1: an interesting occult symbol there, like the two headed janis
Speaker 1: looking in two separate directions. What's of different ways to
Speaker 1: take that? Looking back into the past, looking forward into
Speaker 1: the future.
Speaker 2: The great.
Speaker 1: Glory that was the UH. You could go back in
Speaker 1: any national story and look at past glory and trying
Speaker 1: to reinstate that. Certainly, UH, our rivals on the world
Speaker 1: stage are doing that, like, oh, look at the we've
Speaker 1: We've been around for so long and we've always been great,
Speaker 1: and forget about making America great again. America's make America
Speaker 1: great again goes back to the nineteen fifties suburban life
Speaker 1: and Mary a trad wife and Keith Burner place birthing
Speaker 1: children while you go to work and bring home the bacon.
Speaker 1: Tell your wife to shut up. That's that's America's great past.
Speaker 1: The Russian's great past was I don't know, the Tsarist Russia.
Speaker 2: And you know we've in.
Speaker 1: The what was it, the the Russian Orthodox Religion. You
Speaker 1: can get in there, all all the great stories of
Speaker 1: the past there. Of course, the China has a long,
Speaker 1: long history, the Chinese. I mean, they go back thousands
Speaker 1: of years of their history, so it would be easy
Speaker 1: to propagandize their populace with grand stories of an always
Speaker 1: great China. And we have cool stories about driving hot
Speaker 1: rods at drive through diners in the nineteen fifties, and
Speaker 1: every now and then we talk about George Washington. So
Speaker 1: we are a young nation. Remember that we're young. We're
Speaker 1: the new kid on the international stage, and we we
Speaker 1: weren't always the ones living here on this land. That's
Speaker 1: hard to remember, isn't it. Nobody seems to want to
Speaker 1: do that for some reason, I guess reality is difficult
Speaker 1: to come to terms with. So there's so much going
Speaker 1: on in any given place, and it's the world is
Speaker 1: getting smaller, but tensions are rising higher, and the stakes
Speaker 1: are certainly high, and everybody wants a piece, everybody wants control,
Speaker 1: everybody wants to rule of the world. Will anybody truly
Speaker 1: be successful, Probably not. Will everybody decide to start a
Speaker 1: war to see who the winner is in order to
Speaker 1: vie for that control? Probably at some point. At some point,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be all sorts of tussles in order to
Speaker 1: gain advantage over each other. And they're ongoing hard to
Speaker 1: keep up with any given continent. There's something happening. So
Speaker 1: that is I think I covered what I needed to tonight.
Speaker 1: A little bit of history from somebody who's not that
Speaker 1: qualified to talk about it, a little bit of political intrigue,
Speaker 1: a little bit of interesting financial news again, the collapse
Speaker 1: of this iron Net company pretty fast. I think a
Speaker 1: lot can be taken from the story, and the big
Speaker 1: picture is fascinating when you look at it. For the
Speaker 1: glimpses that we're able to catch of it, it's worth
Speaker 1: a shot to try. It's worth a shot to try
Speaker 1: at understanding and remember that we are vulnerable now, all
Speaker 1: of us, because once again America is not on top anymore.
Speaker 1: It's not the only soul big shot on the world stage.
Speaker 1: A marsh isn't. So remember that everybody top to bottom.
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Speaker 2: We have we have an interesting series going here. First
Speaker 2: of all, the old preser back go to meet their robberies,
Speaker 2: the Dodges. Now, how do you figure are and that
Speaker 2: Dodge you would act up in a playwiff picture and
Speaker 2: he is what's his name? Wants to get Oh, Tony
Speaker 2: wants to get a wing. Well you moved over to
Speaker 2: the LA thinking you're gonna get a wing. Wait a second,
Speaker 2: look pretty good.
Speaker 1: So okay, So you're saying that Dodgers aren't gonna have
Speaker 1: it easy. They have to make sure pore at the challenge.
Speaker 2: To head it in. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I remember last year the same thing happened and there
Speaker 1: were chants in San Diego of beat l A. They're
Speaker 1: very excited at the prospect of beating the doors that
Speaker 1: we got called on the phone, who is.
Speaker 2: In what we talked about baseball.
Speaker 11: Hello, Jimmy James Ocle. What I want to know is
Speaker 11: can let Tigers overcome the Astros?
Speaker 2: Wait just a moment, stop where you're at exactly, drive
Speaker 2: yourself a clamp. You took the Cheeters out. Very good,
Speaker 2: de door, Very good, Detroit.
Speaker 3: That was the next question, was gonna come Tigers knocked
Speaker 3: out the Astros?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, all right, pop your hands, any body
Speaker 2: get your hands clapping? What are you laughing at this?
Speaker 2: I can't go. I'm good relationsid Detroit Man, Detroit Man.
Speaker 2: I was hoping you were gonna do that.
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Speaker 3: it is the percentage, the graphic, the little flags, that's what.
Speaker 4: I look at.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's more information over to the right, but
Speaker 3: I cut that off.
Speaker 4: You can just see the countries they're from.
Speaker 2: Okay, so, Jimmy, what do you think you got to speaking?
Speaker 11: Well, I'm glad the tipers are do.
Speaker 2: You so?
Speaker 11: I don't think this is going to be there?
Speaker 2: I think will be Wait a minute, now, you got
Speaker 2: to play. Who you guys playing? Who are they playing?
Speaker 1: Who are the Tigers playing? At present?
Speaker 4: At?
Speaker 2: Do you know to be playing?
Speaker 1: Who have they been playing?
Speaker 2: No, they're going to be playing the playoffs?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Jimmy, do you know these answers?
Speaker 2: I don't do you know? Who was it? I forgot?
Speaker 3: Okay, you want the playoffs?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Sorry to keep playing. No, No, they finished, They took
Speaker 2: them out. That's what I was clapping. What do you
Speaker 2: think they're finishing?
Speaker 3: Okay, they're finished with the Astros. They're onto the Guardians.
Speaker 2: You know, the Cleveland Oh yeah, the.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, the Indians. They were the Indians, Jimmy James.
Speaker 3: Now they're the Guardians Cleveland.
Speaker 2: The that's wow.
Speaker 11: With the messed up name like that, we'll probably win.
Speaker 2: You're saying you can watch the baseball playoffs because your
Speaker 2: team's got to buy this week in football? How does
Speaker 2: that sound? Jimmy, keep an eye on that.
Speaker 11: Yeah, they they I am keeping on those Lions.
Speaker 2: They need to be that. I am keep an eye
Speaker 2: on because you've got to break in between your football
Speaker 2: because I may Detroit's gotta buy. I know because I
Speaker 2: took the helmets.
Speaker 1: Down the helmet man, we have the miniature we're talking
Speaker 1: about the football.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no football helmets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have the minsiure football helmets. I'll call sets
Speaker 1: them up on the mantle.
Speaker 2: Each week.
Speaker 1: The helmets are facing each other for each game.
Speaker 2: I just do that to just do something.
Speaker 1: Part of your duties around the house, I'll call.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you hear this here this story people, so
Speaker 2: I kick here. We're asking me where's the hat? Huh?
Speaker 2: What do you have?
Speaker 11: All the helmets of all the teams.
Speaker 2: On the NFL. The NFL, there's just little mini helmets,
Speaker 2: little helmets, and and he comes and says, hey, we
Speaker 2: got a game. Someone he says, where's his helmet? We
Speaker 2: would sit in the room because I have the most
Speaker 2: up in my room. And what I do is I
Speaker 2: make from the room to living.
Speaker 1: I get confused when they're not there. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the game is coming.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, but I gotta say that now
Speaker 2: that you don't have to come into my room. You're
Speaker 2: all out there on the first week, the first hour.
Speaker 1: I think that's the reason I don't know what games
Speaker 1: are going on with the MLB in the playoffs, because
Speaker 1: we don't have that same helmet system.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't I would like to say, I would like
Speaker 2: to ask, if it's possible, could you get some more
Speaker 2: of those baseball baseball helmets, not just but that reason,
Speaker 2: we could look into it, look into something like that,
Speaker 2: because I could put those aside for baseball season, you see,
Speaker 2: and then I have the of course football stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't know me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if you guys have this in California,
Speaker 3: but you know, up in the Northeast, and I haven't
Speaker 3: seen it down here, but up in the Northeast, there
Speaker 3: used to be a lot of places where you could
Speaker 3: get the baseball helmets for an ice cream, Like you
Speaker 3: get an ice cream and a helmet. Yes, and it's
Speaker 3: a little mini plastic helmet. What about those.
Speaker 1: We well, we have a bigger version of the same
Speaker 1: plastic helmet. I think nachos came in when we went to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get one place. I'm talking about those, so
Speaker 3: you can get a whole lot of teams. So Uncle
Speaker 3: can do this and set up you know, depending on
Speaker 3: which teams are in the playoffs, you know.
Speaker 4: What I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I do.
Speaker 2: I do remember the ice cream ones.
Speaker 3: I do remember, yeah yeah, Carvel in the Northeast. The
Speaker 3: trouble was, right, you had to go to different carbell locations,
Speaker 3: and they didn't have all the teams. Like if you
Speaker 3: tried to collect all the teams, you couldn't get them
Speaker 3: all unless you went to a bunch of different carvels,
Speaker 3: right and uh, and then people would get angry, angry
Speaker 3: if they didn't have Mets and Yankees and Phillies, you
Speaker 3: know in Jersey, so you had to have all three. Uh.
Speaker 3: But but you know, trying to collect like the Pittsburgh
Speaker 3: Pirates and all that, it was like very hard. But
Speaker 3: I was just thinking that maybe out there somewhere they
Speaker 3: got the mini helmets still available somewhere, Maybe you could
Speaker 3: buy a set.
Speaker 4: What do you think?
Speaker 2: Well, that's what what happened one what was it one Christmas?
Speaker 2: One Christmas and to open up a package and the
Speaker 2: darn things were football helmets. Was a gift. It was
Speaker 2: as a gift as a gift?
Speaker 3: Was it?
Speaker 2: Every team? I was willing enjoyed it and that.
Speaker 3: So if it's possible, was it every team or was
Speaker 3: it just just your team?
Speaker 1: Every team? Every team does have every team he had
Speaker 1: set up every week.
Speaker 3: Oh, but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: If he has the baseball helmets, it would be great.
Speaker 4: You got it, you know.
Speaker 2: That's I'm asking the people that are looking, well, they
Speaker 2: looked and saw that. I'm sure there.
Speaker 1: Has to be an equivalent that you can just buy,
Speaker 1: just like we did to the NFL sets the MLB.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you want to all right, because you never
Speaker 2: go to the meetings.
Speaker 3: I'm the moules because I wouldn't have expected to mix
Speaker 3: that we have here, right, And do you want to
Speaker 3: know the rest of the baseball games that are coming up?
Speaker 3: Because we talked about Detroit and the Guardians, but that's
Speaker 3: only one.
Speaker 4: Of four division games.
Speaker 3: That kind of interesting because you got too lost. You
Speaker 3: got two California teams facing each other in this round
Speaker 3: right here, where you got the Padres and the.
Speaker 2: Dodgers Andres and Dodgers right and that.
Speaker 3: And you got New York the Mets taking on.
Speaker 2: The Phillies playing in the Phillies.
Speaker 3: You got Detroit taking on the Guardians. As we said,
Speaker 3: and Kansas City is taking on the Yankees. So another
Speaker 3: crazy dangerous thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. Kansas City is playing that series. That
Speaker 2: series should be a wild one.
Speaker 3: Well the wild thing to me is something that we
Speaker 3: only had maybe what twenty five years ago. Uh, we
Speaker 3: have a possibility for a subway series here if the
Speaker 3: Mets and the Yankees make it.
Speaker 2: I was thinking of that. I was thinking of that.
Speaker 1: I had heard that as a possible.
Speaker 2: I was, are you're putting that phone in here?
Speaker 3: Because we you know, this is a rare opportunity. I
Speaker 3: mean it's rare. Also, the two California teams are taking
Speaker 3: on each.
Speaker 2: Other in the National Yeah, that would be that would
Speaker 2: be interesting, a bottom bottom series, I was or you
Speaker 2: just said, I was thinking of the same thing. If
Speaker 2: it came down to that, it would be crazy looking
Speaker 2: at a baseball game down under? I call that down under?
Speaker 4: What's down under?
Speaker 2: What do you mean under the ground? The subway? Oh okay,
Speaker 2: that's why. That's how I cool it.
Speaker 3: See, subway series used to be a long time ago.
Speaker 3: You get like the New York Giants versus the Yankees, Right,
Speaker 3: so you can have a National League, but they haven't
Speaker 3: had a subway series, except what in two thousand and one?
Speaker 3: Was it or two thousand? I forget the Mets got
Speaker 3: blown out, but.
Speaker 4: Now what you do. I don't think it was ninety nine.
Speaker 4: Let me check on that.
Speaker 11: Impossible. And my body from New York was very happy
Speaker 11: that the mess we're going to play.
Speaker 2: Oh well, let me go about it is very very strange.
Speaker 2: I just.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't remember specifically that happening the World Series.
Speaker 3: I believe, Jimmy, you're about to get maybe proven wrong here.
Speaker 2: Let's see.
Speaker 3: It was the two thousand World Series, Jimmy, two thousand.
Speaker 2: Two thousand Claws loc Yep, this can't be.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you Mandela effect, because look, this was the
Speaker 3: first subway series in New York since nineteen fifty six,
Speaker 3: and it wasn't a foregone conclusion that either team would
Speaker 3: make it in the fall Classic blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: The Mets lost four games to one, and I remember that,
Speaker 3: and I do remember it was either, like I said,
Speaker 3: either two thousand or two thousand and one, and like,
Speaker 3: but it's right in that area. I mean ninety nine
Speaker 3: next year. But I remember it was two thousand because
Speaker 3: I was married, and I didn't get married until New
Speaker 3: Year's Eve nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 2: So oh oh yeah, and boy, few years is coming.
Speaker 3: So the baseball the baseball season was over in ninety
Speaker 3: nine by the time I got married.
Speaker 4: So it was definitely a thing.
Speaker 3: Because of course, just like anything else, she had to
Speaker 3: be on the opposite side of things.
Speaker 4: So she was like a Yankee, you know.
Speaker 3: So I got Yankee winning drugged in my face.
Speaker 2: Cours of course the woman who was on the other
Speaker 2: side of the the bench. I think you should know that.
Speaker 2: But now, man, no, not always ill goodle football go
Speaker 2: to a sports event and thinking that they'd be on
Speaker 2: the same side.
Speaker 3: Hey, I don't have that problem with Ken. I'm telling
Speaker 3: you now. She roots for the right teams, you know.
Speaker 4: So there you go.
Speaker 3: If when we've watched baseball, she's always on the side
Speaker 3: that I am, except but now watching football, we go
Speaker 3: opposite sides on the Super.
Speaker 4: Bowl all the time.
Speaker 3: But but when it comes to baseball or almost anything else,
Speaker 3: she's usually on the right side of things. So I
Speaker 3: don't know my first wife, they'll forget it. If I
Speaker 3: would have said put mayonnaise on tunipiss, she would have said, no,
Speaker 3: I want ketchup. Even if she didn't want ketchup, she
Speaker 3: would have put ketchup on her.
Speaker 4: Just to spite me.
Speaker 3: All the same taste, just to spite me.
Speaker 4: Telling you that sounds.
Speaker 1: Like an uncle creation there, that's creation. Is that what
Speaker 1: you're thinking on?
Speaker 3: Sounds like sounded like it was a good idea right
Speaker 3: away already, He's crazy. I'm telling you, man, that that
Speaker 3: that freaking sour crowd.
Speaker 4: I'm never going to get over that anyway.
Speaker 3: Between that, you lunatics with the ranch dressing on pizza,
Speaker 3: I don't know what to say anymore.
Speaker 4: You're ruining at all.
Speaker 1: That's Ohio. That's Ohio.
Speaker 2: That's on the side over there.
Speaker 1: I know my Ohio cuisine is.
Speaker 2: Final Casino over there. Well him about that, like the
Speaker 2: kids say.
Speaker 4: See Ohio. Anyway, just the thing. But No.
Speaker 3: Two thousand was the last Subway series. We have a
Speaker 3: potential here for another one.
Speaker 2: So it's a possibility. Let's put it in a possibility.
Speaker 2: It could happen. It could happen.
Speaker 3: Hey, anybody who wants to do dirty dollar bets on
Speaker 3: the Mets, I'm here by the way, just so you know, yeah.
Speaker 4: You know my one dollar bets, my gentleman's bet.
Speaker 2: Oh, the one dollar bet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I called the thirty dollar bet because people
Speaker 3: always get the beat up dollars. We could always do
Speaker 3: that when we get in there. I mean, I don't
Speaker 3: know if you want.
Speaker 2: To let's see what let's cometinue head and see what happens.
Speaker 2: And two unless that happens, like you said, Chuck, well
Speaker 2: I put money onto that, all right. If it happens, hey,
Speaker 2: we'll let it.
Speaker 4: We'll let it get in there.
Speaker 3: We'll let it get to the World series. We'll do
Speaker 3: dirty dollars on the World series.
Speaker 4: How's that? Yeah? Yeah, okay, sounds good.
Speaker 2: Another call is Gimmy got another call?
Speaker 3: Okay, you want to put Jimmy on hold and then
Speaker 3: get to the Yeah, you got Jimmy.
Speaker 1: Hold on.
Speaker 4: Jimmy will be back to you. And here's your new caller, Uncle.
Speaker 2: My phone.
Speaker 12: Hey, Uncle, this is May.
Speaker 1: Damn I May.
Speaker 2: I've been talking about Now let's have it.
Speaker 12: I would have called last week, but Chuck was having
Speaker 12: a hurricane back there, and for whatever reason, I never
Speaker 12: the show never came on here. I just got the
Speaker 12: replay stream that he does. I was checking back seeing
Speaker 12: because he put a note he's going to have you on,
Speaker 12: but uh yeah, I just never came on out here
Speaker 12: on my device, so I couldn't call. Yeah, the hurricane
Speaker 12: and hey, you're talking baseball tonight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was talking baby Eddie.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry about that. The hurricane did recavoc with a
Speaker 3: bunch of things last week, and uh, you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: things were out of my control.
Speaker 4: Sorry about that.
Speaker 12: Oh I know I was one of them. But and
Speaker 12: when I of course, uh Sunday, I listened to the
Speaker 12: replay at work and oh damn.
Speaker 3: Yeah, see I did have it on, but it just yeah,
Speaker 3: there were troubles off and on all night, and uh,
Speaker 3: what can I do.
Speaker 4: I'm surprised I kept it on to even get that.
Speaker 12: Man. Nothing, I know, you're you're in a storm back there, man,
Speaker 12: I know.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Anyway, there go, Sorry about that. Go ahead, Baseball.
Speaker 12: I'm gonna say forget it. A subway series. Let's have
Speaker 12: a Coast to coast or a classic Dodger Yankees.
Speaker 3: I can't root for the Yankees to win, ed, come on,
Speaker 3: I mean, at leastways.
Speaker 12: Coast World Series like the first one they ever had,
Speaker 12: which I believe was sixty three Dodgers.
Speaker 6: Yankees sixty three Dodgers Yankee.
Speaker 4: I don't remember that one. I got to check that.
Speaker 5: Yeah again, first coast to coast because you know, they
Speaker 5: didn't have baseball in the West until just recently, like
Speaker 5: fifty eight, the Giants, Dodgers, and so when the Dodgers
Speaker 5: and Yankees in sixty three, it was the first coast
Speaker 5: to coast World Series.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, now now that California has way too hype that up. Well, now,
Speaker 3: California's got a hell of a lot of teams. I mean,
Speaker 3: they ended up with the Oakland Athletics, they got the
Speaker 3: San Diego Padres, they got the California Angels with your
Speaker 3: Anaheim right, Uh, you know there's three. Then you got
Speaker 3: the Dodgers, the Giants. I mean, you know, come on,
Speaker 3: how many of them?
Speaker 12: Yeah, there's a bunch down there. They could form their
Speaker 12: own league.
Speaker 2: Yeah almost, that's what we're saying.
Speaker 3: You know, all you got you could make a West
Speaker 3: Coast league, no problem, you just go up. You get
Speaker 3: the Mariners there and uh and who else you got
Speaker 3: it you need? I don't even know, but it's crazy.
Speaker 12: I mean the Angels, Giants, Dodgers, Padres.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's what six teams right.
Speaker 12: That athletics, but not for long for the athletics.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, they're moving.
Speaker 1: I heard that's where were they moving to? Somebody going
Speaker 1: to Vegas, just like the Raiders Vegas.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I went to Vegas. That's like went to Vegas.
Speaker 1: Vegas has taking all the Oakland teams?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Will will they? After Neffles going? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, where were they?
Speaker 2: Where the Oakland A's going?
Speaker 12: I heard Las Vegas?
Speaker 2: Oh, Vegas.
Speaker 12: Then you're going to Las Vegas.
Speaker 2: Well that means they'll have a baseball in Raiders. Then
Speaker 2: in the ballpark.
Speaker 12: They're going to play at the old Solon's Stadium in Sacramento.
Speaker 12: I heard, wow, because they don't have a ballpark ready
Speaker 12: yet in Nevada yet for ant we know that.
Speaker 2: Because you know how long it took for them to
Speaker 2: do the one for the Raiders. But I got it.
Speaker 2: They got it in here, they got them up there.
Speaker 2: I mean, so you figured the same is happening with
Speaker 2: the baseball.
Speaker 12: Well I think, man, it seems like those Vegas games.
Speaker 12: It better be an indoor, air conditioned park as hot
Speaker 12: as hell over there, you know, like they got that
Speaker 12: in Arizona has one of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So have you been lunching the Baseball playoffs.
Speaker 12: And well I haven't don't get mad, but because the Dodgers,
Speaker 12: uh don't have to play till Saturday, so I've been
Speaker 12: waiting to see who and uh my thing with the Dodgers,
Speaker 12: I'm afraid they don't have the pitching to go very far.
Speaker 12: That is got the map, but the pitching is pretty
Speaker 12: pretty interest is.
Speaker 2: My main thing. I was always telling you, I was
Speaker 2: always telling you you might have the hit the hittings,
Speaker 2: but you can't do the hitting. You want the witching.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm going to take I'm action on on
Speaker 2: this game. I'm going to take the Padres for one
Speaker 2: reason totally. The man wants dying enough to get a ring,
Speaker 2: dying enough to get a ring. It's gonna loan to Wookie.
Speaker 2: But the point is.
Speaker 12: A long time ago that the winning to get in
Speaker 12: the ring for the fan isn't as big of a
Speaker 12: deal because as a Dodger fan, the Dodgers have probably
Speaker 12: been in the World Series after the Yankees just about
Speaker 12: as many times as anybody else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you got to.
Speaker 12: Learn to love the game for for how the game
Speaker 12: works and stuff. You know, I know that you know
Speaker 12: I had miney, you got to have other things. I
Speaker 12: had mine, not all or nothing to win the ring.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 12: Now for the players, you know they want that's what
Speaker 12: they want, you know, sure I get that good.
Speaker 2: I can tell you a story about my father and
Speaker 2: my it's my grandfather. No, this was this was something
Speaker 2: to hear. Now when is a count. They went to
Speaker 2: the baseball stadium and man one ground one side, the
Speaker 2: other ground on the other side. One going for the Dodgers,
Speaker 2: the other side is going for the Giants. They are
Speaker 2: going at each other, ban ban all this crazy stuff.
Speaker 2: And it used to be it used to be that way.
Speaker 2: Now they're going crazy. The band's going nuts. But I
Speaker 2: mean that, uh, that's what I remembered of between news.
Speaker 12: Well, you know, there used to be uh even just
Speaker 12: a few years ago, in the earlier two thousands. Uh,
Speaker 12: some guy was beaten near to death at Dodger Stadium,
Speaker 12: a Giants fan and a Dodger fan up in Frisco
Speaker 12: was stabbed to death. Yeah, yeah, you know those are
Speaker 12: that's outrageous. You know, I'm all for having the rivalry
Speaker 12: that makes a game fun. But and Vin Scully, he
Speaker 12: told the story about when they played in the polo
Speaker 12: grounds back in uh, you know, New York. When the
Speaker 12: two teams are in New York, they had to nail
Speaker 12: the clubhouse. The clubhouse was out in center field under
Speaker 12: the under the bleachers the grandstands. Then Scully said they
Speaker 12: would nail the back door to those clubhouses. Otherwise the
Speaker 12: players would have been fighting under the grand stands all night.
Speaker 4: And ed is correct. By the way, the World Series.
Speaker 3: The most World Series appearances obviously is the New York Yankees.
Speaker 3: They've also won the most World Series by by the team.
Speaker 3: But the second one in line is the Dodgers.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm not surprised.
Speaker 3: And after that, now, obviously it would be the older
Speaker 3: teams have you know, much greater shots at this.
Speaker 4: But next come the Giants after the.
Speaker 3: Who Yeah, they they're the fourth. They're they're number four.
Speaker 3: After that, she gets weird. Yeah, Giants are third, right, Yankees, Dodgers, Giants, Cardinals,
Speaker 3: And the top five is rounded out by the Athletics
Speaker 3: of course, because they've been around forever.
Speaker 12: Yeah, they've been around then, yea, the seventies that they
Speaker 12: were good, right, and then.
Speaker 3: Believe it or not, the Red Sox were are sixth,
Speaker 3: and then the time number seven Tigers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that adds. We have a guy on he had
Speaker 2: the line Jimmy, he's a uh Tiger fan. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Can you guess who's next? Uncle though after the Tigers?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, Kissidy No Royal really becuz they were fighting
Speaker 2: the Mits, I mean the Yankees.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Uncle, you gotta think all time, so you
Speaker 3: gotta go all the way back, you know, when the
Speaker 3: World Series.
Speaker 12: Started about Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: Cincinnati is a good guess, but they're not They're not
Speaker 3: even up here yet.
Speaker 1: Donna say, Red Sox.
Speaker 12: They're like the oldest.
Speaker 2: Yes, the Red Sox are.
Speaker 3: The Red Sox are six Aaron so after Yeah, so
Speaker 3: seven is Tigers. Eight is the one I was looking for?
Speaker 4: Which is the Cubs?
Speaker 2: I was, I was gonna say that. I was gonna
Speaker 2: hold it. I was.
Speaker 13: I was gonna say the Cubs. So und was my guests. Yeah, honestly,
Speaker 13: that was my guest. Okay, the Cubs. Hey, I was
Speaker 13: gonna say the Cubs. But everybody's talking. I was gonna
Speaker 13: say the Cubs. Probably was right then.
Speaker 3: Sure to round out the top ten, nine and ten,
Speaker 3: I was right, I was right.
Speaker 2: Well, can you say I would have said the Cubs?
Speaker 3: Can you guess your cob next.
Speaker 2: I was guessing the Cubs myself.
Speaker 3: Okay, we got two more teams in the top ten.
Speaker 3: Guess which one, uncle, go ahead, one of the two
Speaker 3: teams left in the top ten.
Speaker 2: That we just mentioned.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, that's still World Series appearances.
Speaker 4: Top ten.
Speaker 3: We've gotten one through eight, which is the Yankees, the Dodgers,
Speaker 3: the Giants, the Cardinals, the Athletics, the Red Sox, the Tigers.
Speaker 3: Number seven and number eight is the Cubs. Who's nine
Speaker 3: and ten on the list?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: And what about the Phillies?
Speaker 2: Yeah, why not? I'll hit the Phillies on one. How
Speaker 2: about them? How about the Phillies?
Speaker 3: That's nice guess, but they are actually number eleven, the Phillies,
Speaker 3: So nine and ten.
Speaker 4: I'll give you another guess.
Speaker 2: Uncle heavy, you think who's thinking? I think old team that?
Speaker 2: I think? I get it? Thank you.
Speaker 12: Think about how about the Indians? Man, they've been around, true,
Speaker 12: but the Indians, the Indians, I don't think so.
Speaker 4: They're number fifteen.
Speaker 3: Indian they're number fIF.
Speaker 2: They're fifteen, they're fifteen. Let's see, everybody, I gotta find
Speaker 2: a tenth one. You gotta think give me.
Speaker 3: Good here, Yeah, you gotta think back to the original teams.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, the old old teams.
Speaker 2: Will this is good one nice night to think about
Speaker 2: this stuff I thought would be a good one.
Speaker 12: The other side of Chicago, Hey, Uncle, the other side
Speaker 12: of Chicago from the Cups. Maybe the White Sox.
Speaker 2: Yeah about the White Sox.
Speaker 4: White Sox are number eighteen.
Speaker 1: Oh many? That is.
Speaker 3: Hey, you've been through, You've been through.
Speaker 2: The old Team's one more team that are you trying
Speaker 2: to think of? Who can ow the team?
Speaker 1: Uncle? Creative Accents is saying that we need Caddy in
Speaker 1: Texas to call in because she knows about sports. Caddy
Speaker 1: in Texas must call in, So call in.
Speaker 2: Okay, Colleen, call in.
Speaker 4: Come on.
Speaker 2: I'm a little I'm stunning. Yeah, I'm stunning here and
Speaker 2: need some.
Speaker 3: Hill Caddy in Texas. Come on, maybe you can help out.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2: How you want to go, but I'm honest.
Speaker 3: I got one more I got one more guessing game
Speaker 3: to play with Uncle on this if he wants to
Speaker 3: keep going. But I want to see if you can
Speaker 3: get either nine or ten. And we've had three guesses
Speaker 3: now and they're all message guys, and they came together
Speaker 3: by committee.
Speaker 4: Here, So go ahead.
Speaker 1: I knew what about the I don't want to say this,
Speaker 1: but I'll say it.
Speaker 2: What about the Atlanta Braves?
Speaker 3: And Aaron just hit number nine?
Speaker 2: Nine? It could have been the Braeves. It couldn't been.
Speaker 2: It is the Braves. They've had a game. It was
Speaker 2: way back. They tried and tried and tried and they
Speaker 2: couldn't win. But they did win one game.
Speaker 4: Well, this is World.
Speaker 10: Series, they.
Speaker 2: Were, but not but they haven't won the World Series.
Speaker 3: But this doesn't win.
Speaker 2: But they won the eighty five World Series.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but but uncle, this isn't wins. This is just
Speaker 3: appearances in the World Series. Right, But Braves is number nine,
Speaker 3: So you got number nine. There's only one left here
Speaker 3: on the top ten.
Speaker 2: Number nine.
Speaker 3: Number nine is the Braves.
Speaker 4: Yeah, after the coach.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had years and don't forget they played in
Speaker 3: Milwaukee before that.
Speaker 12: Now.
Speaker 3: I don't know what the record was, but they had
Speaker 3: a lot of years.
Speaker 4: They're an old old team.
Speaker 2: Oh wait a minute, that's the team.
Speaker 4: One more old team.
Speaker 2: Come on, what have been? What about the the Brewers.
Speaker 3: Let's see the Brewers way down there.
Speaker 4: Waiting.
Speaker 3: I'm waiting for it to unlock. Past twenty five here,
Speaker 3: they're way past twenty five.
Speaker 2: Sorry Milwaukee, Milwauk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I have no wonder they drink? What the
Speaker 3: ti No, the Tigers? Remember a number seven here? Let
Speaker 3: me tell you the top Yeah, let me tell you
Speaker 3: the top nine again, so you know which teams you
Speaker 3: can't pick. The Yankees, the Dodgers, the Giants, the Cardinals, Athletics,
Speaker 3: Red Sox, number seven, Tigers, number eight, Cubs, number nine, Braves,
Speaker 3: what's number ten?
Speaker 2: Sick? In fact? The baseball to think of all these
Speaker 2: baseball games.
Speaker 3: Well, somebody, okay, I'm gonna help you here. Somebody guessed
Speaker 3: it earlier when I was looking for like number six
Speaker 3: or five or something. Ohios, the Orioles, that's a pretty
Speaker 3: good guess.
Speaker 4: They are number twelve.
Speaker 2: Oh me, let me see, yeah see.
Speaker 4: On the right track to old teams. You need an
Speaker 4: old team.
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, I'm surprised that Aaron is not getting
Speaker 3: this one.
Speaker 2: Oh you would not get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not. I'm not putting thought into this.
Speaker 2: I need to. I need to let us start thinking.
Speaker 2: Put the heads, put the blind together. There.
Speaker 1: I don't know how old the team is. How old
Speaker 1: is the Toronto Blue Jays Blue Jays. Wait wait, wait,
Speaker 1: wait the other bird t yea, yeah, they're new. Let's
Speaker 1: go with the other bird team, the Cardinals, Lewis, Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: throw that out there.
Speaker 4: Hold it, hold up.
Speaker 3: The Blue Jays are number twenty four, just so you know, okay.
Speaker 2: About the Continals, the Cardinals.
Speaker 12: I'm just looking at the standings baseball standing what I
Speaker 12: already said, Cincinnati? How about Pittsburgh?
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, but here's the thing.
Speaker 3: You didn't guess Cincinnati during this part. It is the
Speaker 3: red Cincinnati Reds. That's number ten.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I.
Speaker 12: Know, I said, I called it up way up there.
Speaker 12: I know. Yeah, I remember you said somebody said it earlier,
Speaker 12: but I thought you said. I thought I heard you say.
Speaker 12: Maybe it was a different way. Oh no, the Reds
Speaker 12: are number fifteen.
Speaker 3: But no, well maybe I heard that.
Speaker 2: Remember, and you got in the middle of that. You
Speaker 2: that was your damn number.
Speaker 3: Number you missed.
Speaker 2: That's you miss number ten. Number that you missed, number ten.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you because now I didn't even talk on
Speaker 2: Cincinnati number fifteen.
Speaker 12: Is I thought they were a little higher up.
Speaker 4: No number fIF you know, just because.
Speaker 12: Cincinnati's I believe that the oldest team in baseball Yeah.
Speaker 2: They weren't night. So I thought, well, they got to be.
Speaker 12: In there somewhere.
Speaker 2: I kept saying, think on Johnny Bench.
Speaker 12: But no, the man I loved him when I was
Speaker 12: a kid.
Speaker 3: But uncle, we're talking about when they didn't even have
Speaker 3: baseball helmets, when they still had a soft hat and
Speaker 3: it was made of leather and the things are made
Speaker 3: of wool. We're talking about you know, Black Sox days.
Speaker 3: We're talking about Babe Ruth was still alive. Okay, anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 3: the Indians are number fifteen. The Indians are okay, or
Speaker 3: the you know today the Commanders or whatever.
Speaker 4: But yeah, anyways, there we.
Speaker 2: Got a little history there and they gone, we got
Speaker 2: baseball's history started. That's pretty good.
Speaker 4: And just for the record, the Mets are number seventeen,
Speaker 4: just so you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well cluse back back and then back watch, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, nineteen sixty two.
Speaker 3: They came into existence in sixty two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not so bad for that.
Speaker 12: Yeah, so they missed a lot of years, right, sure.
Speaker 3: But you know who's ahead of them, which I find
Speaker 3: funny is the Astros.
Speaker 2: Oh you mean the Cheetahs cheat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, number sixteen. But they came into existence at a
Speaker 3: weird time. I think they were. I'm thinking they were
Speaker 3: the Seattle Pilots or something before that. Who was the
Speaker 3: Seattle Pilots or maybe they became the Rangers. I don't
Speaker 3: some Texas team was the Seattle Pilots at one point.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 2: Pilots. No, that's not titled. I did not know that
Speaker 2: one that was.
Speaker 12: I didn't know the Pilots were short lived. Right, You
Speaker 12: got to read that book Ball four. You read read
Speaker 12: all about them in there. That's a great book if
Speaker 12: you if you haven't ever read a baseball book, one
Speaker 12: of the more well known ones, dude, All four Ball four.
Speaker 12: It's called I can't think of the author's name not
Speaker 12: coming to.
Speaker 2: Me right now, So then why do you think about this?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Pilots existed for a single season, uncle, in
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 4: No kidding, so season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you go to Wikipedia tells you the Seattle
Speaker 3: Pilots were an American professional baseball team based in Seattle, Washington,
Speaker 3: during the nineteen sixty nine Major League Baseball season. During
Speaker 3: their single season existence, the Pilots played their home games
Speaker 3: at six Stadium and were a member of the West
Speaker 3: Division of the Major League Baseball's American League. On April first,
Speaker 3: April Fool's Day, nineteen seventy, the franchise moved to Milwaukee,
Speaker 3: Wisconsin and became the Milwaukee Brewers.
Speaker 4: That's who they became, the Brewers.
Speaker 2: Ah okayo came from. That's the team.
Speaker 3: They were the Seattle Pilots.
Speaker 1: Yes, y public, they went to Milwaukee. Okay, So the
Speaker 1: Brewers aren't that.
Speaker 3: They brought them to Milwaukee to replace the fact that
Speaker 3: Milwaukee lost the Braves, just like the Mets were replacement teams,
Speaker 3: so New York could have a National League team again
Speaker 3: because you guys took the Dodgers and the Giants, so
Speaker 3: they gave them the Giants orange and y and Dodger blue.
Speaker 3: Put it together, Mets. That's how they got their blue
Speaker 3: and orange and y and all that.
Speaker 2: I smart there, ed you better be listening to my by.
Speaker 2: He knows about baseball. I mean, you know, that's literally
Speaker 2: anything about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they literally that, they literally.
Speaker 12: Because I've read a lot of Dodger literature and baseball
Speaker 12: literature from back you know, the the Heyday, you know,
Speaker 12: the post Warriors and stuff, and uh yeah yeah, but
Speaker 12: they you know, because those teams are really loved by
Speaker 12: the people back there and so so throw a little
Speaker 12: of each color on the new team and see if
Speaker 12: they come.
Speaker 4: You got it. That's basically what they did. Yep.
Speaker 2: And that was the try to It.
Speaker 3: Was trying to piece both the New York Giants and
Speaker 3: and Dodger fans. That's why it was crazy when the
Speaker 3: New York Mets basically bought Willie Mays because the New
Speaker 3: York Mets brought Willie Mays from Yeah, no kidding, but
Speaker 3: they got him from the Giants for for like a
Speaker 3: year and a half, brought him to New York and
Speaker 3: he got into a World Series with the Mets that
Speaker 3: was I think against the Oakland A's in Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I was. I wouldn't what year was that. I
Speaker 12: remember that that was sixty nine, right.
Speaker 3: No, it was either seventy one or seventy two.
Speaker 12: That we're talking about after that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it was after the Miracle Mets.
Speaker 12: Willie Mays was early seventies. Yeah, early seventies. Yeah, seventy
Speaker 12: let me say, willis in a met you know, and
Speaker 12: then I got to see him play because I heard
Speaker 12: so much about him, you know, and I was still little.
Speaker 12: It's like a ten or eleventh I think it was
Speaker 12: early seventies, like maybe seventy three or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna get it, but I know they made
Speaker 3: He made an appearance in the World Series against the
Speaker 3: Oakland A's I remember that. Uncle Willie Mays played for
Speaker 3: the New York Mets from nineteen seventy two to nineteen
Speaker 3: seventy three.
Speaker 12: Mm hmm, yeah, that's my time for I think let's
Speaker 12: think that's it.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: I was born in seventy two, so uncle Cleena accidents had.
Speaker 12: To learn about that from you know reading.
Speaker 1: Yep, this is important. We need to do more text
Speaker 1: to speech or speech to text tweets on Twitter from
Speaker 1: I've been running.
Speaker 2: All over the place I kicked. I've been asking you.
Speaker 2: You're the one with the machine. You want in here looking,
Speaker 2: and here we are.
Speaker 4: I got you ed.
Speaker 3: You want a funny detail about that William Mason so
Speaker 3: X so X that.
Speaker 2: Blame him, Well you left. I'm getting blamed right now.
Speaker 2: I'm getting blame. I like this.
Speaker 3: So May eleven, nineteen seventy two, Mays was traded for
Speaker 3: to the New York Mets for picture Charlie Williams and
Speaker 3: an undisclosed amount of money.
Speaker 4: Rumored to be one hundred thousand dollars. The Mets agreed
Speaker 4: to keep.
Speaker 3: His salary at one hundred and sixty five thousand dollars
Speaker 3: a year for nineteen seventy two and nineteen seventy three,
Speaker 3: promising to pay with May's fifty a year for ten
Speaker 3: years after he retired. That's exactly what the deal was
Speaker 3: with the Mets.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Eight.
Speaker 12: You know, Dodgers tried to trade Jackie Robinson to h
Speaker 12: to the of all teams, the Giants after the fifty
Speaker 12: seventh season, when they were moving out West, Jackie said,
Speaker 12: what the hell are they talking about? Man, I'm gonna
Speaker 12: I've hated those guys my whole baseballker. Now I'm going
Speaker 12: to go play for them. I'm just going to retire.
Speaker 2: That's probably immediately tire, right.
Speaker 12: Yeah, he retired after that season. He was getting older anyway.
Speaker 12: But yeah, they were going to try to trade it.
Speaker 12: They were going to trade him to the Giants.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then the Mets return Mays to the Giants
Speaker 3: for I think his last year, so he could go
Speaker 3: out one last year there with the Giants.
Speaker 4: I think that's that's true, at least part of the season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, yeah, that could be.
Speaker 9: I don't.
Speaker 12: I didn't know that. That sounds like what they would do.
Speaker 12: Somebody came back and signed a single day contract so
Speaker 12: they could retire as that team when they go into
Speaker 12: Hall of Fame or some I I can't remember who
Speaker 12: it was though, just recently.
Speaker 1: Single take contract.
Speaker 2: Did you know, did.
Speaker 12: Any wanted to retire with the team he played most
Speaker 12: of his career with?
Speaker 4: You know what, I think some of that wrong? Yeah,
Speaker 4: that too, I'm actually wronged.
Speaker 3: His last official game was with the New York Mets,
Speaker 3: and they they The thing that I'm thinking of is
Speaker 3: that he returned for like a Willie May's day at
Speaker 3: the stadium and they put him in a uniform again
Speaker 3: and you know, let him be there. But officially he
Speaker 3: actually retired to the New York Met. Yeah, I didn't
Speaker 3: know that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Maybe that what I'm talking about is a newer trend
Speaker 12: that these guys will go and sign a one day
Speaker 12: thing to retire with their you know, their original team.
Speaker 12: They played a long time with us them.
Speaker 2: You know, and the pitt was passed away.
Speaker 4: Yes, I did you know? He made it all?
Speaker 12: Yeah. I was going to bring that up in a
Speaker 12: space down that's yeah. Eighty three years old. Man. Now
Speaker 12: there's a guy should be in the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 12: but he isn't.
Speaker 4: I bet you he gets in now and you never
Speaker 4: got to see that, right.
Speaker 3: I bet you'll get in now though, because they'll say,
Speaker 3: you know what, it was a lifetime band.
Speaker 4: Let him in now.
Speaker 12: I bet yeah, yeah, I bet he'll get it. I
Speaker 12: don't care how surly a guy he is. I think
Speaker 12: Barry Bonds ought to be in there too. You know,
Speaker 12: he'd have been in there anyways even if he didn't.
Speaker 9: You.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, both sad part, right. I mean, he should
Speaker 3: have made it even without juicing, but.
Speaker 12: We would have made it without it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 12: He may not have hit seventy home runs in one year,
Speaker 12: but he was still one of the best players there
Speaker 12: ever was.
Speaker 3: I bet you Mark McGuire would have made it Hall
Speaker 3: of Fame, yeah.
Speaker 4: I bet you McGuire would have made it without juicing too.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 12: A lot of these guys and some of those guys,
Speaker 12: it was not illegal when they were starting to do it, right,
Speaker 12: there was no ban against it.
Speaker 1: I forgot about that part. Yeah, yeah, so they.
Speaker 4: Were What do you think about the steroids uncle, the.
Speaker 9: Early guys McGuire and uh it's it's almost like it's
Speaker 9: almost like they football players going in.
Speaker 2: And getting hyped up to come back out about the
Speaker 2: same thing.
Speaker 12: You know, these guys aren't allowed in the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 12: but they're gonna let the Astros keep their World Series
Speaker 12: flag up.
Speaker 3: See now that I think should be taken from seventeen.
Speaker 4: That should be.
Speaker 2: That's that one when they cheated.
Speaker 12: That's right, that's the one that when they got caught cheating. Yeah,
Speaker 12: they should have had to lower that flag. Let him
Speaker 12: keep the rings so they can explain it to their grandkids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's good.
Speaker 12: Well there's no flag over the stadium for that year. Yeah, son,
Speaker 12: you read about it later.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how come they the street book doesn't say the
Speaker 3: Astros one one that year, Grandpa exactly.
Speaker 12: Yeah, they should. They don't get to buy the flag
Speaker 12: or keep the trophy. They did take the truphy, you know,
Speaker 12: wherever they did at the park.
Speaker 2: They did take the trophy. Went, didn't he.
Speaker 12: No, No, they didn't do anything. They punished some low
Speaker 12: level management.
Speaker 4: Right, that's all.
Speaker 3: Just like I was talking to somebody recently about how
Speaker 3: they should, you know, add in the Negro league stats,
Speaker 3: just add them in and put a note.
Speaker 4: That's it, you know what I mean, it's part.
Speaker 12: Of it that I'm just use that asterisk we hear
Speaker 12: about exactly, you know too for a lot, like to
Speaker 12: say the guys that you know, Yeah, these guys are
Speaker 12: considered they they were using performance enhancing substances, you know,
Speaker 12: have that as the asterisk, but they still should be there.
Speaker 12: I think put a.
Speaker 3: Little put a little end for the negro league, put
Speaker 3: a little syringe for the juicers, all.
Speaker 12: Right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Pete Rose gets his own little marker.
Speaker 1: That's how specially it is. That's funny.
Speaker 12: Yeah, with the number of his final tally of hits
Speaker 12: is on the marker.
Speaker 2: The Pete Rose. You put it in the piano, didn't he? Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was something like that. Yeah. Yeah, he has the record,
Speaker 2: I believe.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think nobody, nobody's even come close to breaking it, right.
Speaker 6: Not the hood.
Speaker 2: Haven't heard anything yet. I haven't heard anything yet.
Speaker 12: These guys nowadays, it doesn't seem like they can stay
Speaker 12: healthy long enough to break those career records. They all
Speaker 12: get they all go down sooner, you know, right nineteen
Speaker 12: with injuries and stuff.
Speaker 3: Rose the Cincinnati native and played nineteen seasons and uh
Speaker 3: he got four two and fifty six hits in his career, Yeah,
Speaker 3: four thousand.
Speaker 12: Heat off and played every game of the season. I
Speaker 12: mean you know when.
Speaker 2: Cincinnati win Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a there is a games he.
Speaker 2: Played Cincinnati and and he worked with a guy in
Speaker 2: the county. Now, I used to sing a lot, and
Speaker 2: he's kept on talking about Cincinnati because that was his team,
Speaker 2: of course, and they'd just going back and forth, back
Speaker 2: and forth and back and forth. Now I'm wondering how
Speaker 2: he feels now what happened at Boons.
Speaker 4: When I was a kid. At one point, I remember
Speaker 4: him playing with.
Speaker 3: The Phillies Pete Rose, because he was, you know, closer
Speaker 3: to home then for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did play. Did he play with them? Mona?
Speaker 2: They played with Mania.
Speaker 12: A player manager? Was that where he did that?
Speaker 3: He was a player manager with the Reds, player manager
Speaker 3: with the Reds, but he was he was Yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't remember if he was a player manager.
Speaker 2: With the Phillies.
Speaker 12: He was the player manager with the Reds.
Speaker 3: Definitely with the Reds. But I'm trying to check and
Speaker 3: see about if he did it. You know, where else
Speaker 3: did he play besides the red because I know he
Speaker 3: played in Philly, and something tells me he was an
Speaker 3: expo briefly.
Speaker 4: Let me let me check on that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the xpo.
Speaker 12: Now I can see him in an expo uniform.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he was like for a minute. Maybe
Speaker 3: it was like his last year or something.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: He rose history. Where's he been?
Speaker 2: Really? Where has he gone?
Speaker 12: You guys? The squirrels doing down there?
Speaker 2: Maybe he was schools. I haven't seen him. I haven't
Speaker 2: seen a.
Speaker 12: Lot of squirrel I forgot to tell you, guys, but
Speaker 12: I already sent Chuck an email. October is squirrel awareness month,
Speaker 12: just so you know, Yes it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, already, stay away from my man. Well, what do
Speaker 2: you call it? Pomegrantage, I'm going to be camping.
Speaker 1: I we could be aware of them, but they need
Speaker 1: to be aware of our agenda with saving the Pomeran.
Speaker 2: Yeah, aman, check this out.
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Reds from nineteen sixty three to nineteen seventy eight,
Speaker 3: and he goes to Philadelphia in nineteen seventy nine. I
Speaker 3: told you I was a kid, and plays there until
Speaker 3: eighty three. In nineteen eighty four, he went to the
Speaker 3: Montreal Exposed briefly briefly, then in nineteen eighty four, he
Speaker 3: goes back.
Speaker 12: I can see him sitting in a dugout in an
Speaker 12: exposed somehow that come came to my memory.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did play for the Expos. Let's see the
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty four Major. They see nineteen eighty four Major,
Speaker 3: but started with a nine game winning streak by the
Speaker 3: eventual World Series champion Detroit Tigers. Okay, anyways, but Montreal
Speaker 3: he played there, Yeah, only part of the nineteen eighty
Speaker 3: four season. What year was the was the strike?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah? Oh because.
Speaker 4: Eighty one?
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: In nineteen eighty four, though, he returns to the Cincinnati Reds.
Speaker 3: Now here's what's funny about this. If you go down
Speaker 3: on his list, it says as manager. So he plays
Speaker 3: with the Cincinnati Reds from eighty four to eighty six. Okay,
Speaker 3: then in Cincinnati though he is the manager from eighty
Speaker 3: four again to eighty nine. So he does three years
Speaker 3: as just manager for the Reds. But from eighty four
Speaker 3: to eighty six he's manager and player, and like I said,
Speaker 3: just with a brief stop in Montreal there so the
Speaker 3: Phillies traded into Montreal. I guess or he got signed
Speaker 3: him on I'm not sure. That went, but somehow or
Speaker 3: other he ended up going to Montreal just for eighty
Speaker 3: part of eighty four.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's Pete Rose's professional history.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it too, but that's after fifteen years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fifteen years with the Reds.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, fifteen years with the Reds, four years with
Speaker 3: the Phillies, quick stop in Montreal, and then the remaining uh,
Speaker 3: let's see, five years and some of those as player manager,
Speaker 3: two of them at least as player manager, and back
Speaker 3: in Cincinnati. That's what you're thinking of, is when he
Speaker 3: went back to Cincinnati and he's player and manager.
Speaker 4: At the same time. Although a little bit, you know,
Speaker 4: something tells me.
Speaker 3: The Expos tried that too, or we're gonna and then
Speaker 3: he got moved over there.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure, you know, uncle, I think we're.
Speaker 1: At the end of the show.
Speaker 2: Let's get it. We get Jimmy, Jimmy back on.
Speaker 3: If he's still there, Let's make sure he's still there.
Speaker 3: Hold on with that shoutout, shout out, yeah, let's see
Speaker 3: if we still want Jimmy here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jimmy still here.
Speaker 2: Want me to put him on the air. Okay, that
Speaker 2: shout out?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 3: So there both on and then the shout outs up
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 4: Okay, here you are.
Speaker 2: Uh, what do you think about all this baseball and there? Jimmy,
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, Jimmy, Oh yeah, shut out. Oh so
Speaker 2: I'm glad that your team's in there, Jimmy. So now
Speaker 2: we're gonna I'm going looking at this team. Somebody knew
Speaker 2: is what I like about baseball series? Yeah? Oh okay,
Speaker 2: then you started you stought yours what hello? Oh go ahead?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 11: Uh his torch, You're hearing all this baseball trivia and
Speaker 11: not being able to participate.
Speaker 2: That's what I was sure. I can't tune it off.
Speaker 2: I don't understand him because it again.
Speaker 3: Man, listen, uncle, I put him on hold because you
Speaker 3: told me to.
Speaker 4: I was following.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I said, well I didn't know
Speaker 2: that could go Dodger. You can have Magers World Series there,
Speaker 2: Sorry about that?
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, well you know.
Speaker 2: We're going to have a party about baseball this year.
Speaker 2: You just I got me something to think about and
Speaker 2: and and Jimmy, we're both gonna talk baseball come this
Speaker 2: end of the season. How does that sound.
Speaker 12: All right?
Speaker 11: That sounds I could play and got called into.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you go call into I'm gonna try definitely.
Speaker 11: Okay, then okay, I got my final shout out is uh?
Speaker 2: I don't know he did he.
Speaker 12: Come on man?
Speaker 11: Uh quick bugging the guy? He said he was sorry.
Speaker 3: How about this Jimmy James and the uh and creative
Speaker 3: accidents of the executive producers?
Speaker 4: Uncle tonight, how about that Grey did a.
Speaker 2: Good shout out? Shot?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, that's appreciated everybody.
Speaker 2: Okay, So, Ed, what about you? Do you have shout outs?
Speaker 12: Hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna give mine h p R
Speaker 12: Pete Rose Man because as a kid, he gave me
Speaker 12: a lot of joy watching him play, you know, as
Speaker 12: a ten eleven year old kid man. He uh yeah,
Speaker 12: he rocked my boat man. So shout out to Pete
Speaker 12: Rose greyful.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you for calling both Ed and Jimmy.
Speaker 1: It's great, great to have you. We will have you
Speaker 1: again anytime we call. So thank you everybody.
Speaker 12: All right, good night you guys.
Speaker 1: Uh uncle, do you have a shout out?
Speaker 2: One day in the shout out, I didn't want one
Speaker 2: shout out and I was interested in a pirate? What
Speaker 2: are you laughing at? A pirate?
Speaker 4: Which is a pirate?
Speaker 2: Who was that number thirty nine played for the Pirates.
Speaker 1: Oh a, one of the players that played for the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Pirates are shouting out to him right way? Oh gosh,
Speaker 1: I can't think.
Speaker 2: Do you remember that name? His name? Yeah, I can't
Speaker 2: remember the Pirates Stars. I wouldn't know it if I
Speaker 2: heard it, but he had. But he's the one that
Speaker 2: gave out the stars on the helmets on the hands.
Speaker 1: Okay, so his idea was the stars on helmets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, well the pirate Uh so, uh.
Speaker 3: You're talking about Willie Starr.
Speaker 2: His name was you're talking about will stars with them?
Speaker 1: Was it?
Speaker 4: Dave Parker? Dave Parker?
Speaker 3: I think so you're talking old star, old Pirate stars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was an old player and he played for
Speaker 2: the all. Shout out, shut out to him.
Speaker 3: That's back when Pittsburgh did the whole thing. We are family,
Speaker 3: dun dud and I used to dance.
Speaker 2: Heads.
Speaker 3: Hey the seventies here, I forgot about them.
Speaker 2: Shout out to him and the tame done Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: I'll just give a quick shout out to Sally Doll
Speaker 1: and Creative Accents for being in the chat. Creative Accents
Speaker 1: asked if we're doing a VHS watch party tomorrow. We
Speaker 1: were saying at the heads of the show, we're gonna
Speaker 1: do probably a video game stream, but it might be
Speaker 1: later in the day due to soccer season, and if
Speaker 1: we don't make it, it's because the day got all
Speaker 1: busy and wait us. But we're gonna try to do
Speaker 1: a video game one uh sometime tomorrow. So watch the
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Speaker 3: Hey, by the way, real quick, just to let everybody know,
Speaker 3: Uncle's absolutely right. He was number thirty nine, and he
Speaker 3: was partially responsible for the unique design on the nineteen
Speaker 3: seventies rollouts of various pirate uniforms and special costumes. No,
Speaker 3: I'm just letting people know in case they were too young.
Speaker 2: That's the one thing I knew about.
Speaker 3: In case they're too young to know about this guy.
Speaker 3: In case they're too young to know about this uncle.
Speaker 3: This is in the seventies when I was a little kid.
Speaker 2: You know, baby, that's true. Yeah, okay, you know you
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Speaker 2: That Uncle.
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