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Speaker 2: And now your host's Cliff Berrickman and James Boobo Fay, Hello,
Speaker 2: Bobs up nothing man, just chilling hanging out, getting ready
Speaker 2: to do a podcast right here.
Speaker 3: I thought you were Gonnay, I'm getting ready. Like building
Speaker 3: Melissa's haunted house stuff.
Speaker 4: Well that is for after the podcast today. Actually, there's
Speaker 4: a couple of things on my agenda, and certainly getting
Speaker 4: all the Halloween stuff out of the shop is part
Speaker 4: of that. You know, Sammy, she has more than one
Speaker 4: complete shelving unit, and you know, like I build these
Speaker 4: shelving units out a two by fours, they're you know,
Speaker 4: two feet by eight feet essentially, and she has more
Speaker 4: than one full of just halloween stuff. So that is
Speaker 4: gonna be a big part of my afternoon today. So yeah,
Speaker 4: we're gonna go buy some pumpkins and all that sort
Speaker 4: of stuff because it is Halloween time, which is at
Speaker 4: least half the year at my house, but it's also
Speaker 4: the most important season of the year. So that's kind
Speaker 4: of what I'm up to so today, at least today. Yesterday,
Speaker 4: though I was in the woods, I got out to
Speaker 4: the woods yesterday a little bit found a possible track way.
Speaker 4: It was pretty vague interesting. I mean, it wasn't just
Speaker 4: like one print in the ground, and it wasn't clear
Speaker 4: by any means, but there were toes at least what
Speaker 4: I'm interpreting is toes. But it was on a rocky
Speaker 4: gravelly road, actually the same spot I took you when
Speaker 4: you me and Dave went out last year. At some
Speaker 4: point right at that intersection there, I observed four tracks
Speaker 4: in the ground, and I think I was a three track,
Speaker 4: no One two. There were three clearly observable, and I
Speaker 4: think I'm missing one, and there was also a partial
Speaker 4: that might have been one, and it's hard to say.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I thought I was missing one in the
Speaker 4: sequence of tracks. But if these were Sasquatch tracks, I
Speaker 4: cast one as usual. It looks terrible. But if these
Speaker 4: were Sasquatch tracks, it was I may measured about fifteen
Speaker 4: inches long a little bit more, which is a different
Speaker 4: new size, new size for this place. So far, I've
Speaker 4: only gotten the fourteen, which is actually a thirteen and
Speaker 4: a half and twelve, which is actually only eleven and
Speaker 4: a half. But there's a decent chance that this is
Speaker 4: actually the thirteen and a half or fourteen inch individual,
Speaker 4: just leaving a little bit bigger print as all. So
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know, but it might be
Speaker 4: a new one. So I'm going to keep my eye
Speaker 4: on the area, try to get out there once or
Speaker 4: twice a week as weather permits. Although I shouldn't even
Speaker 4: say as weather permits, because it dumped on me yesterday
Speaker 4: when I was out there. I was out there alone,
Speaker 4: just walking in the downpours, getting soaked. Man, it was
Speaker 4: cold and wet. And then I went to a different
Speaker 4: elevation and sure enough, snow yesterday. Snow no way, yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, not only was it just hailing
Speaker 4: because the tumultuous weather, but there was actually light dusting
Speaker 4: of snow everywhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: So it's winters here, man, It's the middle of October
Speaker 4: and the winter's already here.
Speaker 3: So well, I guess that's not that out of the
Speaker 3: organ I guess for this time of the year. It's
Speaker 3: a little early, but unheard of.
Speaker 4: No, No, this is the time when the light switch
Speaker 4: changes and suddenly it's not nice every day anymore and stuff,
Speaker 4: and it's basically winter. So yeah, I think the upper
Speaker 4: elevations are going to be closed now. I might be
Speaker 4: able to squeeze one more trip up to Timothy Lake
Speaker 4: or something like that, but that's about it. After that,
Speaker 4: I think it'll be done. I'd like to go poke
Speaker 4: around there. Some tracks are found in November of last year,
Speaker 4: just outside of the Timothy Lake area. I'd like to
Speaker 4: go check out that area, walk around, see if there's
Speaker 4: anything going on that I can detect. But we will see,
Speaker 4: we will see. We're at the mercy of mother nature
Speaker 4: as usual. Anything going on with you.
Speaker 3: I'm just down with the folks has done so. I
Speaker 3: also not doing my which I've called Wally a couple of times,
Speaker 3: trying to get ahold of them, but I haven't heard
Speaker 3: back anything.
Speaker 4: Well, you know there's other people down there too. Maybe
Speaker 4: you can get together some of the old funny big
Speaker 4: foot folks or something and hang out with them and
Speaker 4: be good to see them, I'm sure.
Speaker 5: Or organize a pigeons reunion.
Speaker 4: Or yeah, pigeon reunion. Now, I'd get the flock back together.
Speaker 3: There is gonna be a little bit of one on Saturday.
Speaker 4: Really get some pictures for us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's gonna be a lot of guys.
Speaker 3: It's where we went to a grade school. In junior high.
Speaker 3: There is the annual fair, So we'll go down there.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I go perch a little bit in some
Speaker 4: of those trees. Used to hang that in.
Speaker 3: Those are all gone. Not because of us either.
Speaker 4: You might be too big to perch in those things nowadays. Anyway,
Speaker 4: you've grown a little bit since then.
Speaker 3: I talked with you for yesterday. He did tell me
Speaker 3: that where the origin of the word, because I can't
Speaker 3: remember where the pigeon came from. And it was because
Speaker 3: when he was in when him and tr another pigeon
Speaker 3: were in grade school, like seventh grade or something, that
Speaker 3: coach wanted to call him the seagull their soccer team,
Speaker 3: and it was a sisters team's name in the year
Speaker 3: before was the Seagulls, and so they were protesting that
Speaker 3: it was a girl tame name, and the goes, what
Speaker 3: do you want me to call you guys the pigeons,
Speaker 3: And those guys thought that was pretty cool, so they
Speaker 3: that's where the name came from.
Speaker 4: You know, you could have called yourself the he Goals.
Speaker 4: When we get old, we can call ourselves the bald Hegels.
Speaker 3: That's good to let you're on fire.
Speaker 4: No, I haven't changed a bit, Bobs. I'm just wearing
Speaker 4: you down. You're coming to the dark side. You're just
Speaker 4: appreciating my humor more. You're changing. It's not me.
Speaker 3: I appreciate the good stuff.
Speaker 4: Well anyway, it's it is Halloween times. So we thought
Speaker 4: that maybe a fun thing to do for this particular
Speaker 4: episode is kind of get into the spookier side of
Speaker 4: things and you get outside the Bigfoot thing just for
Speaker 4: a second, go beyond Bigfoot, if you will. So a
Speaker 4: couple of people have been writing in and then asking
Speaker 4: for some stuff. So maybe I'll pass the microphone to
Speaker 4: Matt prou and you can kind of set us up here.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: One of our members on the Patreon side, Nick McKay,
Speaker 6: had written in for our members only Q and A episodes,
Speaker 6: and he had said quote Cliff had alluded to a
Speaker 6: ghostly experience in the past. Although I'm a firm believer
Speaker 6: in the Squatch, I'm more of a skeptic when it
Speaker 6: comes to ghosts. Nevertheless, I love to hear ghostly stories
Speaker 6: and was hoping you guys might have something to tell,
Speaker 6: And so I thought, you know, rather than doing that
Speaker 6: in an answer to a question in a whole series
Speaker 6: of questions, since it's Halloween, we could be fun to
Speaker 6: do a whole Halloween special episode because I know both
Speaker 6: you guys have some pretty good ghost stories.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've had some really weird things happened to me
Speaker 4: in my life, and you know, and people might be
Speaker 4: surprised because I'm the science s guy or whatever, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm an advocate of science and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 4: But at the same time I've had weird stuff happened.
Speaker 4: My weird antenna has been up for quite a while,
Speaker 4: and when your antenna is up, it attracts the right
Speaker 4: kinds of stuff. The whole reason I liked the bigfoot
Speaker 4: thing is because I was such a weird kid essentially
Speaker 4: and weird young adult. I just liked unusual things, you know,
Speaker 4: And I stumbled across bigfoot stuff, and I realized that
Speaker 4: it wasn't as weird as I thought. And the weird stuff,
Speaker 4: you know, could go in a different corner of my
Speaker 4: life just for entertaining thought experiments, whereas this bigfoot thing, well,
Speaker 4: that's biology, you know, and I can apply biological methods
Speaker 4: and that sort of stuff to it, and that's what
Speaker 4: I started doing. So I don't think there's anything weird
Speaker 4: or paranormal about sasquatches at all, really, And many people
Speaker 4: would disagree, and that's fine, do what you want to do.
Speaker 4: But I'm only basing on my experience, my thirty years
Speaker 4: plus experience in this field, being around these things, having
Speaker 4: seen one or two of them in my life, been
Speaker 4: tracking them and smelling them and hearing them. Never ever, ever, once,
Speaker 4: if I ever had anything weird happen to me that
Speaker 4: out of the ordinary around Bigfoot stuff. So I don't
Speaker 4: think there's anything there, but that is me that I
Speaker 4: don't enjoy the idea or of paranormal things, you know.
Speaker 4: So just to dispel that incorrect belief and rumor that
Speaker 4: circulates about me out there that I'm no fun about
Speaker 4: all that sort of stuff, I just don't think it
Speaker 4: applies to Bigfoot in any way whatsoever. But yeah, I've
Speaker 4: certainly had some ghost stuff, and I know Bobo has
Speaker 4: had more than his fair share of ghost weird stuff.
Speaker 3: Too, fair share, not more than more than well, yeah.
Speaker 4: You're fair share Okay, yeah, Bobo. Here here's a question
Speaker 4: for you. Before I launched a couple of short stories here,
Speaker 4: how far back can you remember, like how old were
Speaker 4: you when you had some some of your very very
Speaker 4: first weird things happened to you.
Speaker 3: My next door neighbor's house, which since it's been torn down.
Speaker 3: When I was growing up, they had weird stuff out
Speaker 3: at their house, Like did hear the drawers like the
Speaker 3: civil where George stuff like that in the kitchen, Like
Speaker 3: it was like those little round circle latches that like
Speaker 3: run a hen so like you lived at the circle
Speaker 3: finger and pull the drawer.
Speaker 4: Were out, oh kind of like a door knocker or
Speaker 4: something like.
Speaker 3: That, right, yeah, yeah, exactly, those would go off sometimes.
Speaker 3: I heard that a couple times. They talk about it,
Speaker 3: and I heard it once or twice.
Speaker 4: And how old were you then?
Speaker 3: Junior high like maybe like you know, under sixteen, like
Speaker 3: anywhere from twelve to fifteen. But I didn't seeing or
Speaker 3: hear anything. They never felt anything. The person I had
Speaker 3: that was like really weird para normally was the Evering
Speaker 3: around two thousand, two thousand and two. Somewhere there was
Speaker 3: when I had my first where I saw like that
Speaker 3: shadow thing.
Speaker 4: Well, you tell us a little bit more about that.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 4: I can't remember which one this is.
Speaker 3: Oh, I was living in that house and we were
Speaker 3: moving out, and I had that by big pit bull Dday,
Speaker 3: that big one hundred and five pound pit bull that
Speaker 3: was like a really good guard dog, and he was
Speaker 3: he was chilling there with me and I was in
Speaker 3: the bedroom and we had a big open door with
Speaker 3: like a ten foot wide doorway going into the kitchen
Speaker 3: area from the the living room dining room. There's an
Speaker 3: old house with like the fourth oldest house in Arcada.
Speaker 3: So and everyone told us it was haunted, but it
Speaker 3: made so much noise all the time anyways that you know,
Speaker 3: stuff settles and temperature changes. You know, there's pops and
Speaker 3: all that kind of sounds. And so I never I
Speaker 3: never listened to people and they say those places wanted.
Speaker 3: I can feel it, and I was like, I don't,
Speaker 3: I don't know. This seems fine to me. And then
Speaker 3: after being there for several years, it was moving out
Speaker 3: and I was actually unloading my shotgun, you know, put
Speaker 3: it in the truck and move it. And as I
Speaker 3: was unloading it, I see the my bedroom door look
Speaker 3: out into the dining room right where it went into
Speaker 3: the living room. I mean it in the kitchen area.
Speaker 3: The kitchener had like a like a ten foot wide doorway,
Speaker 3: you know, so we had an old quilt pinned up
Speaker 3: over that to keep the heat in the living room
Speaker 3: and dining area where we hung out because the kitchen
Speaker 3: was big and kind of drafty. And I was sitting
Speaker 3: there and all of a sudden I saw it when
Speaker 3: I like, it looked like a uh like just someone
Speaker 3: like whatever. All it was just all black, like a shadow. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that curtain lifted up and the shadow went through like
Speaker 3: where the curtain looked up, it went through, and I
Speaker 3: was like, I thought it was like someone saw that
Speaker 3: thought the house was empty because we were moving out,
Speaker 3: but came into sea or something. I didn't know what
Speaker 3: it was. And I had my shot and I ran
Speaker 3: out and DD he was barking and charging out and
Speaker 3: my next onever was flushing his engine on his on
Speaker 3: his outboard. Right there, Bo was there, and I said, dude,
Speaker 3: I go, and he's like, no one's, no one's here.
Speaker 3: And I ran and looked down through the field and
Speaker 3: there was there was no one there. And I was
Speaker 3: like they must all they went into the bathroom. So
Speaker 3: I got DJ we ran back in the house because
Speaker 3: he could go off the kitchen into the bathroom, and
Speaker 3: there's a pantry in there, and I thought, it's in
Speaker 3: the pantry of the bathroom, and I ran and there
Speaker 3: was no one in there, and I thought, well, they
Speaker 3: must have circled back through the house and there was
Speaker 3: nobody there. And then a couple years that I've heard
Speaker 3: about the shadow people whatever you like, people like there's
Speaker 3: just a silhouette of a black shadow and that's I
Speaker 3: guess what I saw. It was. It was perplexing and refuddling,
Speaker 3: but it wasn't like scary.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. I mean,
Speaker 4: because not all ghost things or whatever are scary.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's like, what the heck was that? Then you
Speaker 4: realize later that shouldn't have been there. I've even heard
Speaker 4: of Bigfoot reports like that where they thought it was
Speaker 4: a person or whatever, and then later on was wait,
Speaker 4: that wasn't a person. You just thought it was something normal,
Speaker 4: which is probably the first instinct of most people. Stay
Speaker 4: tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo
Speaker 4: will be right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: I did have one. Another weird thing happened the time
Speaker 3: I saw I remember it was December two thousand and one,
Speaker 3: and I was staying at the Volcanhouse on North Shore,
Speaker 3: a walk who read a pipeline and one of the
Speaker 3: guys lived in, This guy Brucey Brews, iarns he won
Speaker 3: the pipe Maasters. That day there was this huge party
Speaker 3: and so it's just going richter. And then that night
Speaker 3: I was outside because it started getting pretty dark and
Speaker 3: like real bad energy, like really batter. There was like
Speaker 3: a bunch of fights, and then so I was outside
Speaker 3: with this guy Kai Kayborg. He was like two time
Speaker 3: super heavyweight street fighting Chapion of the world down in Rio.
Speaker 3: It was him and this guy Sunny Garcia, who was
Speaker 3: like this. He was a really well known kind of
Speaker 3: Hawaiian guy, like he'd win the world title like the
Speaker 3: year before or two years before, something like that for
Speaker 3: a pro server. He was a big, pretty buff dude.
Speaker 3: He was. He was a known tough guy whatever. And
Speaker 3: so the three of us are sitting out there talking
Speaker 3: and we were like going, Madison's getting pretty ugly in there,
Speaker 3: and Ty was getting ready to throw everybody out. So
Speaker 3: we're sitting and I'm looking I had my back to
Speaker 3: the house looking at the ocean, and Ty was forty.
Speaker 3: He was like a nine yearree angle from the beach
Speaker 3: looking he was looking down like up up the beach,
Speaker 3: looking east. And then Sonny was he had his back
Speaker 3: to the ocean looking at the party, then be off
Speaker 3: to like Sonny's left shoulder on the right side, on
Speaker 3: my right. In the bushes, it's just a small space
Speaker 3: like maybe twelve feet wide, like fifteen feet at the most,
Speaker 3: like twelve feet or some bushes there along between the
Speaker 3: sand and the and the where it drops off down
Speaker 3: on the beach from the property. There's there's still about
Speaker 3: twelve foot space. And in those bushes, I swear to
Speaker 3: you also there's like three heads just kind of like materialized.
Speaker 3: They were all kind of brown, like what were they
Speaker 3: almost see through looking, but they were like three or
Speaker 3: four times the size of a normal human head. They were.
Speaker 3: They were big. They were probably like you know, two
Speaker 3: foot by like you know, twenty four by eighteen inches
Speaker 3: or something like that, you know, something like that. And
Speaker 3: they were all like touching each other like three dots
Speaker 3: like a pyramid shape almost like like a pyramid tilted
Speaker 3: on its side. I guess thereic cahunas whatever. So that
Speaker 3: was a hay out. That was a hay out they sacrifice.
Speaker 3: Wherever we were standing was a hayout. They used to
Speaker 3: sacrifices there. What's a hayout like a temple old Hawaiian
Speaker 3: temple area. So I go, no way, I'm like, there's
Speaker 3: some ghost heads and I don't I don't think even looks.
Speaker 3: He just goes and Sunny just started chanting, dude, and
Speaker 3: I guess I guess what he was singing. It was
Speaker 3: like a chant was he was saying, I'm Sunny from
Speaker 3: the this and this family line, and you chant out
Speaker 3: like your your back of your family lineage and who
Speaker 3: your family vanquished, because those might be ghosts of someone
Speaker 3: that your family killed, that you killed them. It's not
Speaker 3: like you got to be scared because your family killed them.
Speaker 3: Is like we're more powerful than you, Like this is
Speaker 3: my family line, Like whatever your family line is, you're
Speaker 3: not as powerful with my family line. It's kind of
Speaker 3: like how I guess he explained it later, but like
Speaker 3: he started chanting like like these Hawaiian I didn't I
Speaker 3: didn't know what the hell I was saying, I guess
Speaker 3: it was mostly just names. They sayd the son of
Speaker 3: the son of that. And then ty Tony closed your
Speaker 3: eyes and looked down. They both had their eyes closed
Speaker 3: looking down, and I did. And then I those my
Speaker 3: eyes and looked down. I waited about thirty th I
Speaker 3: opened up my looks and go, they're still there. He like,
Speaker 3: close your eyes and look down, and he just didn't
Speaker 3: say nothing, and Sonny was doing his little pant thing.
Speaker 3: Then I closed my eyes for like another thirty seconds.
Speaker 3: I opened him again. They were gone. Yeah, so that's
Speaker 3: the only time I've ever seen the ghosts. Really. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I thought I saw a second shuttle Man in Ohio,
Speaker 3: but that turned out to not be a shadow man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was actually a Sasquatch. Yeah, that was That
Speaker 4: was pretty funny. I remember I went to the You
Speaker 4: were in the suv at the time because you'd already
Speaker 4: finished your interview, and I go, bobes Man, there's a dude.
Speaker 4: You go, Clive, I think I saw a shadow man.
Speaker 4: What there shadow mass? No, No, you you saw a Sasquatch.
Speaker 4: I came here to tell you there's one here right now.
Speaker 4: It's like shadow man. That's that's the most logical explanation,
Speaker 4: that was a big foot man. It followed us back
Speaker 4: to the base camp.
Speaker 3: It was cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Flippy had a rocks thrown at him. I heard
Speaker 4: Knox while I was doing my interview. Several of the
Speaker 4: producers got pretty close with that thing, and I know
Speaker 4: you saw it, and a couple of other people heard
Speaker 4: it and got scared out of their place and stuff.
Speaker 4: And that's not paranormal, that's just the big foot stuff.
Speaker 3: So that female preducer that smokes cigarettes, that she was
Speaker 3: bad I to got and smoked away from, you know,
Speaker 3: the main area. She went down by the river. She
Speaker 3: thought it was messing with her, like going back and forth, rumbling,
Speaker 3: mumbling and like picking rocks down in the creek. And
Speaker 3: then it came up and walked up behind her, and
Speaker 3: oh and she flipped out and ran and shut herself like.
Speaker 3: I didn't tell anybody till till afterwards that it happened
Speaker 3: to her.
Speaker 4: Yeah, some pretty cool stuff happened off camera. And of
Speaker 4: course if it doesn't happen on camera, it doesn't make
Speaker 4: the show, so it doesn't really matter. Yeah, well, you know,
Speaker 4: so you sound like you're you're dip into that the
Speaker 4: weird paranormal ghost stuff happened pretty late in life. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because I look back at my life and I don't know.
Speaker 4: I mean when you're when you're really young, it's hard
Speaker 4: to say what's real and what's not, you know, because
Speaker 4: I think that the little day you look at the way,
Speaker 4: like small small young children behave like they're clearly on
Speaker 4: a different level, you know, they're they're the veil is
Speaker 4: much thinner for them, right, It's kind of like cats,
Speaker 4: you know. I do like small children, I mean like
Speaker 4: two or three years old, maybe four, there are kind
Speaker 4: of like cats. They see things and experience of reality
Speaker 4: that the adults just simply do not, Right. So I
Speaker 4: look back at some of the things that happened to
Speaker 4: me when I was very very young, and I would
Speaker 4: venture a guess I was three or four years old,
Speaker 4: and I don't know what's real. I assume a lot
Speaker 4: of this stuff isn't real. But I had some very
Speaker 4: weird things happen to be back then. One of the
Speaker 4: earliest memories I have is being at the end of
Speaker 4: the hallway. We had a long hallway in my house,
Speaker 4: you know, connected all three of the bedrooms in some
Speaker 4: various ways to the living room and stuff. I remember.
Speaker 4: I don't even know how young I was. Again, this
Speaker 4: is one of my earliest foggy I do remember being
Speaker 4: in my crib. I have a couple weird memories of
Speaker 4: being in my crib. Cheese that just reminded me of
Speaker 4: another one. Yeah, I'll tell you that one first. I
Speaker 4: do remember lying in my crib. And again, I don't
Speaker 4: know how old I was when I graduated out of
Speaker 4: my crib, but I remember lying on my crib and
Speaker 4: it was a wooden crib. I remember the room it
Speaker 4: was in. Ended up in my bedroom, you know, through
Speaker 4: my adolescents and stuff. And on the wall was a
Speaker 4: painted plaster clown, you know, like y'all painted up and
Speaker 4: you know, this is like nineteen seventy three or something
Speaker 4: like that. You know, I was born in nineteen seventy
Speaker 4: so this had to be in nineteen seventy three, in
Speaker 4: nineteen seventy four, so you can imagine the style of
Speaker 4: art that we're dealing with. It was a plaster clown
Speaker 4: that had been painted and I remember it very vividly,
Speaker 4: you know, and I always thought it was very weird
Speaker 4: that sometimes you know, it was a clown. So it
Speaker 4: was smiling sometimes, but other times it wasn't. It was frowning,
Speaker 4: And I never even thought about that, right, So how
Speaker 4: a plaster clown could be both smiling and frowning sometimes.
Speaker 4: But you know, you're a little kid, you don't really
Speaker 4: question these things. And I remember, probably a decade and
Speaker 4: a half later, I probably was like fifteen or sixteen
Speaker 4: or more, at my grandparents' house when they were still alive,
Speaker 4: and you know, rummaging around and looking for treasures in
Speaker 4: my grandma's house because she always my grandma Grandpa's house,
Speaker 4: because he had such cool stuf in their like spare
Speaker 4: rooms and garage and all that sort of stuff. And
Speaker 4: I ran across the clown and it blew my mind
Speaker 4: because there it was smiling, but yet I have clear
Speaker 4: memories of it frowning at me. I guess it's a
Speaker 4: foreshadowing of psychological issues later in live for something I
Speaker 4: don't know. And speaking of foreshadowing, another thing I witnessed
Speaker 4: or I have a memory of, is that I was very,
Speaker 4: very afraid of the dark when I was a kid.
Speaker 4: You know, I think it's part of the reason that
Speaker 4: I embraced the bigfoot thing. Because I'm an advocate of
Speaker 4: if you're afraid of something, you should just go jump
Speaker 4: into it, get over it, you know. But I remember
Speaker 4: being I was afraid of the dark, so might I
Speaker 4: would sleep with my door open, you know, to let
Speaker 4: the ambient light into the of the rooms. And I
Speaker 4: remember lying on my side one night and looking out
Speaker 4: the door or whatever into that very same hallway, the
Speaker 4: hallway that I'm gonna get to in a minute, and
Speaker 4: I swear I have a memory of a three three
Speaker 4: and a half foot tall, hairy biped running past the door.
Speaker 4: How crazy is that? Like, as far as foreshadowing.
Speaker 3: That's that is that's kind of weird, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And of course, you know, I'm sure paranormal
Speaker 4: advocates are going see they're inside your house, Cliff, I go, dude,
Speaker 4: that was like three or three. Now, I suspect it
Speaker 4: was something else, something that I don't think it was
Speaker 4: a sasquatch in my house. Come on, I don't believe
Speaker 4: that for a second. But you know, some other things
Speaker 4: I observed, like one time, I swear to god, I
Speaker 4: saw seven foot easter bunny at the end of the hall.
Speaker 4: But again, I was like a kid, So what's real?
Speaker 4: What's not? I don't know. I still remember what the
Speaker 4: way it looked though.
Speaker 3: I saw six footunny when I was five. Really it
Speaker 3: was my dad. It was my dad in the dark,
Speaker 3: going around and in my mind, in my mind, he
Speaker 3: turned into a six foot tall rabbit. Yeah.
Speaker 4: See, that's what I'm talking about. Like, as a kid man,
Speaker 4: you just don't know what's real and what's not. Which
Speaker 4: are inventing which you know, It's like it's like kids
Speaker 4: are tripping all the time on the hallucinogenics or something.
Speaker 4: They just have that built into the brain.
Speaker 3: You know, I did the instrum. Bunny was coming that night,
Speaker 3: and you know, I heard movements. So I'm pretty light
Speaker 3: sleep right, I heard something moving around, so I jumped
Speaker 3: up and got out of bed, looking dark. It was dark,
Speaker 3: there were no lights on or anything. And I was
Speaker 3: just like, seize your bunny. And then I was ye,
Speaker 3: see somebody sees your bunny. And it turned out I
Speaker 3: was just my dad.
Speaker 4: Well, you know I've seen your dad. That's a reasonable
Speaker 4: reasonable mix up there.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: There's one other thing that I remember very vividly, and
Speaker 4: then this this scared the s the sha poop out
Speaker 4: of me. This scared me bad. I remember again, I
Speaker 4: had a night light because I was afraid of the
Speaker 4: dark when I was very young, and I I was
Speaker 4: probably like five at this time or something like that.
Speaker 4: And I remember lying on my side, just like, you know,
Speaker 4: staring at the night light. And I'm assuming this is
Speaker 4: some sort of in between sleep and awake state hallucination,
Speaker 4: you know, that sort of thing, you know. But I
Speaker 4: remember lying on my side, the blankets over there, and
Speaker 4: you know, I'm just facing my room and very slowly
Speaker 4: rising up from from where I couldn't see it like
Speaker 4: next to my bed. I had a fear of things
Speaker 4: living under my bed too. My mom, gods, she would
Speaker 4: always say, don't let the gorilla under your bed get you,
Speaker 4: which is a horrible thing to say, is to a child,
Speaker 4: Because there's a gorilla under my bed. I didn't know
Speaker 4: about this, you know, and that scared me for a
Speaker 4: long time. And again I think that probably fed my
Speaker 4: or you know, put some wind in my sails towards
Speaker 4: the Sasquatch Island I live on now, you know, being
Speaker 4: afraid of these gorilla things under my bed. But I
Speaker 4: was laying on my side and it was night, my
Speaker 4: parents were in bed. I remember that, and then slowly
Speaker 4: rising up from next to my bed, was ahead of
Speaker 4: some sort and in the light it appeared, you know,
Speaker 4: gray or something like that. And I just when the
Speaker 4: head started coming up next to my bed, I just
Speaker 4: remember it as this is a little kid. I'm thinking,
Speaker 4: Oh my god, and I froze in fear as this
Speaker 4: head slowly rose up until I could see down to
Speaker 4: about its nose and it was looking at me. And
Speaker 4: you know, at that time, I had already been super
Speaker 4: interested in really in love with the universal monsters, you know, Dracula,
Speaker 4: you know, Frankenstein and Wolf, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: And at the time, the thing I thought it looked
Speaker 4: like most was the Phantom of the Opera. I think
Speaker 4: it's long chainey that plays that, you know, with like
Speaker 4: the deep dark, sunken black eyes and the weird looking
Speaker 4: nose and the big forehead and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 4: And it was just and it rose up to about
Speaker 4: its nose and it was just looking at me, and
Speaker 4: of course I was looking back at it, just horrified,
Speaker 4: absolutely petrified in fear. And I remember it's like I
Speaker 4: was trying to yell, which is why I think that
Speaker 4: maybe I was half asleep, because one of those things,
Speaker 4: but I couldn't do it, and I eventually yelled, and
Speaker 4: then when I did yell, it just went poop back
Speaker 4: down underneath the bed. And then that was horrifying and
Speaker 4: scary and every single way. And I still remember all
Speaker 4: of all of these events pretty well as well as
Speaker 4: you can looking back, you know, fifty years into an
Speaker 4: already cloudy memory, you know. But those were some of
Speaker 4: the earliest weird things that I saw growing up and whatnot.
Speaker 4: But that's not what the question was about, even though
Speaker 4: I think they're pretty interesting stories and weird in this
Speaker 4: very very spooky, halloweeny kind of things to share with
Speaker 4: the listeners. And yeah, these are some of my experiences
Speaker 4: that I have filed away in my in my memory.
Speaker 3: There I almost forgot, I do you have my scariest
Speaker 3: It was up in Hoopa now, staying at my buddy.
Speaker 3: And where they lived was where Fort Humboldt was. I
Speaker 3: think I was called Fort Humble, Yeah, where they where
Speaker 3: they were Fort Humbles on Humble Bay whatever it was
Speaker 3: in Hoopa. There was like you listen to says, ground
Speaker 3: had been stations out there for a while. And anyways,
Speaker 3: there was the fort. There was a courthouse there and
Speaker 3: there was a tree, the hanging tree, and that tree
Speaker 3: still here. It was in my friend's yard and his
Speaker 3: wife and we went to bed. She came in and goes,
Speaker 3: if you have any problems, grab this bible and ask
Speaker 3: you to help you. And I said, well, she goes,
Speaker 3: if you need this, there's a bible here on the
Speaker 3: butt on the nightstand. Take it and say Jesus helped me,
Speaker 3: and he will. I was like all right, And so,
Speaker 3: you know, we were going to sleep, but were going
Speaker 3: to bed, and I was laying there and I was
Speaker 3: it was a sodium light like a you know, Orange lake.
Speaker 3: I don't know if a street light or a yard
Speaker 3: light anyways, so that there was a light outside and
Speaker 3: it was lighting up the room kind of and then
Speaker 3: I just remember feeling like this full negative evil energy
Speaker 3: come in and I couldn't see anything, but this thing
Speaker 3: like kind of came around me, like it was like
Speaker 3: a heavy presence and it and it came and started
Speaker 3: crushing my chest and I couldn't breathe, and it started
Speaker 3: pushing harder and harder, and I was frozen, and I
Speaker 3: remember going like I'm wide out. I remember looking over
Speaker 3: at the side, looking turning my head and looking up
Speaker 3: the window, going okay, I can see the trees and bushes,
Speaker 3: like I'm totally awake. I'm totally awake, but I'm like
Speaker 3: it's it's got me locked up and I can't move.
Speaker 3: It's freezing, it's frozen me, and it's just crushing me.
Speaker 3: And I was like like having this battle in my mind,
Speaker 3: going like get off me, get off me, you know,
Speaker 3: like get off me, get out of here, you know,
Speaker 3: like that kind of stuff. And then I remember what
Speaker 3: she said about that Bible, and I said, okay, I
Speaker 3: gotta get to that Bible. I remember like just struggling
Speaker 3: and struggling, like I got a hold the Bible and
Speaker 3: I brought it and I brought it back to over
Speaker 3: to my chest and I said, she just helped me.
Speaker 3: Do you tell me? Everything lifted, I could breathe, and
Speaker 3: I just sat up straight, like bolted up. And then
Speaker 3: I jumped up out of bed. I was like panting,
Speaker 3: I was out of breath, and I was just like,
Speaker 3: oh my god. And I always told that story like
Speaker 3: I you know, I had my demon incounter. That was
Speaker 3: a demon. I mean, I know it was one of
Speaker 3: those you know, lucid dreaming events. But that was the
Speaker 3: most scared I ever was in any kind of situation
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 4: Well, even if it is some sort of physiological or
Speaker 4: psychological thing, it doesn't make it any less real for
Speaker 4: the for you experiencing it.
Speaker 3: No, that was terrifying.
Speaker 4: Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bogo.
Speaker 4: We'll be right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: Oh you know, I did have another ghost experience. I
Speaker 3: lived in that Victorian, just big, huge Victoria that got
Speaker 3: converted in like nine different apartments, and we were above
Speaker 3: the old carriage house up like on the third floor,
Speaker 3: and there was two other apartments up there. I was
Speaker 3: gone fishing or something. I came back and it was like,
Speaker 3: there's someone broke into the attic up there, and she goes,
Speaker 3: I was so scared. I was pre they're going to
Speaker 3: come down into my bedroom. And I was like, she goes,
Speaker 3: I don't know. They did. They're moving furniture up there
Speaker 3: and they're living up there. It sounds like I was like, ah,
Speaker 3: that's weird, and she said she hadn't heard it for
Speaker 3: a couple of days. So a couple of days later,
Speaker 3: I was home for a few days and then that evening.
Speaker 3: It was pretty early still, like seven or eight o'clock.
Speaker 3: We started hearing someone walking up there and like ragging
Speaker 3: like some like someone moving like a table, like just
Speaker 3: with one person, like moving a table, like dragging it.
Speaker 3: You know. Then you're like how white boots are, like
Speaker 3: you know, hard, hard souls, like you know, the dresses
Speaker 3: or something like this pump punk punk like heavy footsteps.
Speaker 3: We're like, oh, there's someone, Like there's someone up there.
Speaker 3: There's someone living up there. So I goes, you know,
Speaker 3: this is called the cops, you know, get them busted.
Speaker 3: We called the cops and like I was, probably raccoons
Speaker 3: broken up there. And they went and got a ladder
Speaker 3: and they came up there and put it in the
Speaker 3: hallway and CB and went up in there with their
Speaker 3: flashlights and like they didn't go up all the way.
Speaker 3: They just like poked their heads and shoulders from there
Speaker 3: and they flashed it around and said, there's nothing up here.
Speaker 3: I was like, that's the weirdest thing. I was like
Speaker 3: his creed always say this place was super haunted, and
Speaker 3: I was like, no way, And I was like I guess.
Speaker 3: So then then we heard when we when we were
Speaker 3: in the hallway. We heard more noise up there, and
Speaker 3: the cop went back up there and shine the light around,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, he just goes. And I
Speaker 3: was standing probably about eight or feet back from him,
Speaker 3: courses towards the entrance door, and he just goes, well,
Speaker 3: jumped down off the ladder, and everyone everyone like there
Speaker 3: was closter to him, the media all the like at
Speaker 3: the scene. Well, well, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: this oldest air, like like a twenty five degree difference,
Speaker 3: like drop like a thirty degree difference. It's probably like
Speaker 3: probably fifty sixty degrees out like this thirty degree air
Speaker 3: just slowly went not slowly but like walking speed, just
Speaker 3: went completely engulfing, went past me, and everyone was freaking
Speaker 3: out on the old nap came down on them and
Speaker 3: went out towards the exit door, and it smelt like roses.
Speaker 4: Roses.
Speaker 3: Yeah, weird.
Speaker 4: Well, you know the I've had two ghost things happened
Speaker 4: to well, maybe more, but two.
Speaker 3: To me.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know what else you'd what other
Speaker 4: word you'd put on it, except for some sort of
Speaker 4: ghost thing. I don't know what else to explain it.
Speaker 4: Two ghost things happened to me in my semi adult
Speaker 4: life in adult life. I say semi adult because this
Speaker 4: happened in between my ninth and tenth grade years in
Speaker 4: high school. Because in ninth grade I took a Spanish
Speaker 4: and I did not do well. I got a D
Speaker 4: in Spanish, so I retook it during summer school, you know,
Speaker 4: to go back and raise my grade up for GPA stuff,
Speaker 4: which is funny, yeah, because I speak Spanish all right now,
Speaker 4: you know, it's pretty okay. But back then I just
Speaker 4: did not get it for whatever reason. I think that
Speaker 4: it wasn't mentally mature enough to deal with it. A
Speaker 4: lot of my subjects were like that. I think I
Speaker 4: probably can do calculus now, for example, but I just
Speaker 4: wasn't mentally mature enough when I tried it the first time.
Speaker 4: But Spanish was a challenge for me at that time,
Speaker 4: and so my parents would take vacations every summer, you know,
Speaker 4: and they went without me, you know, which is fine,
Speaker 4: because I was getting at that age. I didn't want
Speaker 4: to go anyway, but I couldn't. I was also too
Speaker 4: young to be trusted at home alone, according to my parents,
Speaker 4: so I had to go stay at my grandparents' house
Speaker 4: on Stern's Sterns Avenue or road or whatever down in
Speaker 4: Long Beach, California. So I remember I was there, and
Speaker 4: one night I was lying in what used to be
Speaker 4: my mother's bedroom and my grandmother used it for a
Speaker 4: sewing room. And there are some old pictures of people
Speaker 4: who I probably haven't related to, but I don't know,
Speaker 4: and it's kind of a creepyople stacks of fabric and
Speaker 4: you know that kind of stuff, lying around and in
Speaker 4: a lying in a bed, and I remember lying on
Speaker 4: my right hand side watching the the i'll say digital clock,
Speaker 4: although I mean, I imagine a lot of our audience
Speaker 4: might be too young, but a lot of our audience
Speaker 4: is not too young to know these kinds of digital clocks.
Speaker 4: It wasn't like an LED screen or what everything like that.
Speaker 4: It was remember those, I guess. It was like two cards,
Speaker 4: a top fifty percent and a lower fifty percent, and
Speaker 4: over both cards the number would be written, but at
Speaker 4: certain times it would like flip. Yeah, I remember those.
Speaker 3: I had a lone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't. I'm not sure what that technology
Speaker 4: is called. But I think some of our older listeners,
Speaker 4: and I say older, like my age listeners, will remember those. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I remember staring at one of those clocks, and I
Speaker 4: don't remember what time it was at the time when
Speaker 4: it's happened, but I was, as far as I can tell,
Speaker 4: I was awake. But you know, there's some argument there
Speaker 4: maybe I wasn't, because weird things happened when you're in
Speaker 4: between awake and the sleep, right, But as far as
Speaker 4: I could tell, I was awake. I remember this quite vividly,
Speaker 4: and I was lying on my right hand side looking
Speaker 4: at the clock as I was saying, and then about
Speaker 4: halfway down the bed, the sheets lifted up like like like,
Speaker 4: imagine again, this is just what I observed. Imagine somebody
Speaker 4: grabbing the sheets with one hand and then lifting the
Speaker 4: sheets up so it kind of had draped down from
Speaker 4: that one place, like in a triangular fashion. You know,
Speaker 4: That's what it looked like to me something the sheets
Speaker 4: lifted up. I should say that the sheets lifted up
Speaker 4: as if somebody was lifting them up with one hand.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, like, going, what the And then I
Speaker 4: felt the mattress at that same place where it looked
Speaker 4: like the sheets were being lifted up. The mattress started
Speaker 4: pushing down like somebody was getting into bed with me.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: And at that point I was I was scared when
Speaker 4: the when the sheets were up, but when the mattress
Speaker 4: pushed down, like I was very very frightened, and I
Speaker 4: kind of panicked and says, it was like halfway down
Speaker 4: the bed where I was lying and I kind of
Speaker 4: lie in a fetal position. What I did is I
Speaker 4: took my one of my legs and I kicked, like
Speaker 4: with the with the planter surface on my foot, like
Speaker 4: the bottom sole of my I kicked off that direction
Speaker 4: where this stuff was happening, and I hit something. It
Speaker 4: felt like a person. It felt like I was hitting
Speaker 4: a person like in the mid part of their belly
Speaker 4: or something like that, or stirnham or something like that.
Speaker 4: And as I made contact, I heard oh, and the
Speaker 4: sheet dropped. And that was the end of it, except
Speaker 4: for the next two hours laying awake in terror, not
Speaker 4: wanting to wake up my grandparents or anything like that.
Speaker 4: And I mentioned it to him later and they said, no, nothing,
Speaker 4: nothing's weird ever happened here or whatever, you know, But
Speaker 4: that that was the first time that I think I
Speaker 4: encountered something immensely ghosty as a kind of an adult,
Speaker 4: you know, what little kid hallucinations aside, but as an adult,
Speaker 4: that was the first time that I encountered something that
Speaker 4: really scared me bad and that I couldn't explain that
Speaker 4: I seemed to have my facilities about. You know, it
Speaker 4: seems like I believe I was awake during that time.
Speaker 4: Maybe I wasn't, and that's the explanation for it. But
Speaker 4: even then, it's just scared the heck out of me.
Speaker 4: Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and
Speaker 4: Bobo will be right back after these messages, I guess.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I can count that first one
Speaker 4: as a as a sighting of a ghost because I
Speaker 4: didn't see what was doing it. I just saw the
Speaker 4: effects of whatever was doing it.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of weird stuff. Did I not tell
Speaker 4: you that story before?
Speaker 3: Bobo nod? That's gnarly?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah it was. It was horrifying, absolutely horrifying. I
Speaker 4: did not enjoy it. That's why I don't understand like
Speaker 4: these ghost people and we have them on the podcast,
Speaker 4: you know, Nick Gropp, Dave Schrader or a new like,
Speaker 4: what are you doing looking for ghosts?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 4: That's I mean, I guess each their own they're probably
Speaker 4: looking at us, and why are you looking for giant apes?
Speaker 4: It's horrifying. But I feel the same about them. It's
Speaker 4: like I just don't get it, Like why would you
Speaker 4: want to go do that? I guess the search for
Speaker 4: the unknown or thinking that they're benign, or I don't
Speaker 4: know what it was. I mean, I lived, so my
Speaker 4: soul's okay, I seemed. And then at the second time,
Speaker 4: and this is much more recently, this was seven years ago.
Speaker 4: This one happened here, and it didn't happen to my
Speaker 4: house where I live now. It happened to my house
Speaker 4: at my house I lived in Portland, the small little
Speaker 4: house over there off of Sandy Boulevard. So Melissa and
Speaker 4: I met her on the show. We dated for a
Speaker 4: few years, fell in love, decided to give it a go,
Speaker 4: and so Melissa said that she would be willing to
Speaker 4: live in Oregon.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: So after all that stuff happened, what I did is
Speaker 4: I flew out to Pittsburgh and then Melissa and I
Speaker 4: drove out together in her vehicle, you know, and we
Speaker 4: ship some of her belongings out that sort of stuff,
Speaker 4: and so, you know, it was like a wonderful, cool
Speaker 4: road trip. Took about a week or so to get
Speaker 4: out here, four or five six days to get out here,
Speaker 4: I can't remember. And then we get back on I'd
Speaker 4: have to ask Melissa exact days, but I'll tell you
Speaker 4: best my memory and give me forgive me if I'm
Speaker 4: a day or two off, if I remember right. We
Speaker 4: got back on a Friday, okay, and then Friday night
Speaker 4: or Saturday morning, we get a call that Melissa's grandmother
Speaker 4: is not doing well. Her grandmother on her mother's side,
Speaker 4: she's not doing well. It looks like she's probably going
Speaker 4: to pass away in the next couple of days, that
Speaker 4: sort of stuff. So literally, Melissa arrives on a Friday, Saturday,
Speaker 4: we get the news Sunday, I believe it was Sunday.
Speaker 4: We put her on a plane to go back to
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh to go be with her family during this horrible
Speaker 4: time or you know, solemn time. Really, at least that
Speaker 4: when her grandmother is passing away, right, So and I
Speaker 4: and I get the word on Monday morning that grandma
Speaker 4: had passed away. Okay, So at least Melissa got to
Speaker 4: go back in time and allogize. And I believe at
Speaker 4: least this is what I remember I could be wrong
Speaker 4: about some of the stuff. So Monday morning, I believe
Speaker 4: Grandma died. Melissa was still in Pittsburgh. So I'm at
Speaker 4: the house Monday, Monday. Monday nights, I go to sleep,
Speaker 4: you know, as I normally do, and then at some
Speaker 4: point in the night, I don't know when, I didn't
Speaker 4: catch the time or anything like that, for whatever reason,
Speaker 4: I woke up. Now to set the scene, the room's
Speaker 4: about maybe ten twelve feet square more or less. The
Speaker 4: door is on one corner. The bed is on the
Speaker 4: opposite wall of the door, and on the opposite side
Speaker 4: of the room, so facing the door, I was lying
Speaker 4: on my right hand side again as I often do,
Speaker 4: so I could see the doorway, and the blinds are
Speaker 4: letting a little bit of light in. So the room
Speaker 4: has this creepy sort of bluish tinged it, you know.
Speaker 4: And so I wake up in the middle of the night,
Speaker 4: I don't know when, and everything's blue and kind of creepy,
Speaker 4: and I just kind of wake up, and I look
Speaker 4: over to the door, which is open, and there's a
Speaker 4: there's a woman standing in my doorway. She looks to
Speaker 4: me kind of like Melissa, you know. She had blondish hair.
Speaker 4: She was looking down. She was looking downwards, just standing there.
Speaker 4: She was in a nightgown, like a just kind of
Speaker 4: a nighty sort of thing, like a loose, sort of white,
Speaker 4: whitish thing that went down to about her knees. She
Speaker 4: didn't wasn't wearing any shoes at all. I remember seeing that.
Speaker 4: And she was kind of blondish hair, at least in
Speaker 4: the weird like nighttime moonlight sort of thing. It looked
Speaker 4: like she had blondish hair, or at least light colored hair.
Speaker 4: And she was looking down and I could not see
Speaker 4: her face. She was doing a strange movement. Her arms
Speaker 4: were just hanging by her side, and she was like
Speaker 4: stepping to her left foot, then back to the right foot,
Speaker 4: then back to the left foot back. It's almost like swaying,
Speaker 4: but like stepping back and forth, looking down. Hair draped
Speaker 4: over her face, obscuring all of her features. But to me,
Speaker 4: for all the world, she looked like Melissa in that
Speaker 4: same position. You know, And at this point, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm an adult, this is seven years ago, in my forties.
Speaker 4: I go, well, I'm clearly dreaming this, right, So I
Speaker 4: kind of like take a moment, I shake my head
Speaker 4: a little bit. I literally rub physically rub my eyes
Speaker 4: and just take a moment breathe, like this will solve
Speaker 4: the problem, right. I look back up and the figure's
Speaker 4: still there doing the same thing, kind of going back
Speaker 4: and forth, stepping side by side slowly.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I can't see her face that whole thing. And that's
Speaker 4: when I get real scared, because I figured, well, I'm
Speaker 4: going to wash this lady right out of my eyes here,
Speaker 4: you know. But did not work. When I looked back up,
Speaker 4: she was still standing there. At that point. Well, it's
Speaker 4: dark in the room, so I reached my hand out
Speaker 4: to the I had a little night stand with a
Speaker 4: lamp on it. I reached my hand out the turn off,
Speaker 4: turn on the light. And as soon as my hand
Speaker 4: goes out, and this this woman i'll call her that.
Speaker 4: It's about five and a half feet tall or so
Speaker 4: something like that. Her entire height condenses down, like from
Speaker 4: from her feet, her goes it goes up from her head,
Speaker 4: it goes down and condenses into this blur like this
Speaker 4: swoosh like a show, and it swooshed out of the
Speaker 4: room and down the hall towards the living room. You've
Speaker 4: been to my house, so Bobe, you know, you kind
Speaker 4: of picture this.
Speaker 3: It was like the.
Speaker 4: Moments I reached my hand out, of course, I did
Speaker 4: turn the light on and nothing was there, and I
Speaker 4: was just horrified and scared, and I look, and so
Speaker 4: she's not in the room, my dog, So I call her,
Speaker 4: so you were Sojia, come here, come here, and she
Speaker 4: kind of trots in the room wondering what's up. A
Speaker 4: few moments later she was sleeping in the couch in
Speaker 4: the living room. And that's it. That's the end of
Speaker 4: that story, really, because except for again being scared and
Speaker 4: horrified for the next hour or two until I fall
Speaker 4: asleep again when my adrenaline drops. So I don't know
Speaker 4: what that was. Maybe it was I kind of have
Speaker 4: an idea maybe since it did that figure did in
Speaker 4: fact look like Melissa. I think that maybe that was
Speaker 4: Grandma coming to check on her on her on her
Speaker 4: way out the door, so to speak. I don't really know.
Speaker 4: It did look like Melissa to me, though, except that
Speaker 4: I couldn't see her face, and but you know her
Speaker 4: grandma didn't have that color hair, and grandma't doesn't really
Speaker 4: look like Melissa and all this other stuff. But you know,
Speaker 4: souls may appear a little bit different than the outside
Speaker 4: appearances could. So anyway, those are my two ghost stories
Speaker 4: for this Halloween episode here, So there you go.
Speaker 3: That what is your grand parents house? That's when that
Speaker 3: freaks me out, Like that's pretty gnarly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't like either one on honestly. I mean,
Speaker 4: although I got to see the second one, at least
Speaker 4: the first one, I just saw the effects of it,
Speaker 4: lifting the blanket and getting a bed and all that stuff,
Speaker 4: but I didn't get to see anything. They've had a
Speaker 4: few weird things happen here too, actually at the house here,
Speaker 4: but not very many. But you know what I think
Speaker 4: would be a good thing to do is it is
Speaker 4: I've had one or two things at the house here.
Speaker 4: We can talk about that in the members section, And
Speaker 4: I know Matt Pruitt has a good story associated with
Speaker 4: Halloween as well. But Melissa, my wife, has consented to
Speaker 4: coming on the member section and telling a few of
Speaker 4: our own ghost encounters because she's had some weird things
Speaker 4: happened through her time. So yeah, so our members will
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Speaker 3: Well speaks how it goes there. So the serious voice
Speaker 3: coming in out of the ether there, I was going.
Speaker 6: To say, we talk to a ghost every week, the
Speaker 6: ghost of James Boba fe beloved dear Fred.
Speaker 4: Yeah, our deceased friend brings light.
Speaker 5: Into every room he ever entered.
Speaker 4: God rest your soul, God Rest your soul.
Speaker 3: Bobo.
Speaker 5: I think your soul is restless because you're with us
Speaker 5: once a week.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how would that be if Bobo did die like
Speaker 4: ten years ago and we've been dealing with a ghost
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Speaker 5: So dude, the afterlife sucks. It's lame.
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