1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:01,360 Speaker 1: Baby. 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 2: This is Pet Life Radio. Let's talk pets. 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 3: It's all behaved with arden More, this show that teaches 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,240 you how to have harmony in the household with your pets. 5 00:00:15,599 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 2: Join Ardna. 6 00:00:16,359 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 3: She travels coast to coast to help millions better understand 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,679 why cats and dogs do what they do. Get find 8 00:00:21,719 --> 00:00:25,359 Lady Scoop on famous spaces, They're perfectly pampered pets and 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,399 who's walking goom rints him Tinseltown. From famous pet experts 10 00:00:29,399 --> 00:00:32,119 and best selling authors to television and movie stars. You'll 11 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:34,960 get the latest buzz from Wagging Tongues and Tails Garner, 12 00:00:35,039 --> 00:00:37,719 great pet tips and have a dog one per Flying 13 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,000 fun Time. So get ready for the paws and applause 14 00:00:41,119 --> 00:00:44,840 as we unleash your oh Behave hosts America's pet ed 15 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:49,520 You tainer arden More, What about pet Pals? 16 00:00:49,679 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 4: Welcome to the O Behave Show on Pet Life Radio. 17 00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:56,880 On your post arden More. Hey, You're about to meet 18 00:00:57,039 --> 00:01:02,880 a very inspiring individual and she's very candid too. She 19 00:01:03,119 --> 00:01:07,560 was named National Dog Trainer of the Year in twenty fifteen, 20 00:01:08,239 --> 00:01:12,560 and now she has added a new title author. She's 21 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:18,200 about to share the inspiring story of life with her 22 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:23,519 own reactive dog she's doing this in hopes of helping others. 23 00:01:24,079 --> 00:01:30,000 The book is called Loving Mick, My Reactive Dog. Please 24 00:01:30,719 --> 00:01:36,079 welcome to our show, my friend Laura Christiansen. Welcome, Welcome, Laura. 25 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: Thank you. It's great to be here. 26 00:01:38,599 --> 00:01:41,079 Speaker 4: Laura and I go well back, We've just got to 27 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,519 fill in the gap here for you all. Laura, oh 28 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,760 my goodness, almost ten years ago, maybe nine ten years ago, 29 00:01:49,319 --> 00:01:53,920 because she's an amazing professional dog trainer and she does 30 00:01:54,519 --> 00:01:58,640 help people have their dogs become certified therapy pets, pet 31 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,879 safety dog. Kona everybody, my terrier mix was trained by 32 00:02:02,959 --> 00:02:07,040 Laura and she is a certified therapy dog. Thanks to you. 33 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,000 So pause up to you, Laura. 34 00:02:08,879 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. 35 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 4: All right, hey, he did pretty proud actually. So we're 36 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,159 going to dive into what her book is all about, 37 00:02:17,479 --> 00:02:20,000 and I bet she's gonna help you. But first we're 38 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,840 going to take a quick break, and you all know 39 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:26,039 the drill. Sit, stay, we'll be right back. 40 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,879 Speaker 3: Time for a pause for very ones, Actually sit and 41 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,280 stay all behave. 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Hey in twenty fifteen, she won the Top 62 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:57,120 Dog Award, the National Dog Trainer of the Year. Please 63 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,039 or tell us a little bit where you're based and 64 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,120 what the name of your own dog training company is. 65 00:04:03,599 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: Okay. So I am based in Carlsbad, California since nineteen 66 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:13,719 ninety two, and my business is called Canine Learning Center 67 00:04:14,599 --> 00:04:17,839 Nice and I have a wonderful training facility, my own 68 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,600 three thousand square foot training facility right here in Carlsbad. 69 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 4: And I've been there. I used to live in the 70 00:04:23,759 --> 00:04:27,879 neighboring town of Oceanside before I moved to Texas. And 71 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,279 I can tell you a test that you are about 72 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,720 to hear from one of the best dog trainers on 73 00:04:32,759 --> 00:04:37,399 the planet. She has videos, she has handouts, she teaches 74 00:04:37,439 --> 00:04:40,800 a variety of courses just to give people an understanding. 75 00:04:41,199 --> 00:04:44,240 What got you into the dog training business to begin with? 76 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I always loved animals from the time 77 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,399 I was a child, and I loved teaching. So I 78 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,199 used to actually line up all of my stuffed animals 79 00:04:53,639 --> 00:04:56,399 and I would be the teacher. So when I started 80 00:04:56,439 --> 00:05:00,720 looking for a career, I found something called a humane educator. Okay, 81 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,399 you had to have an elementary education degree and then 82 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:07,399 you would go into places, you know, like school, libraries, 83 00:05:08,319 --> 00:05:13,360 schools themselves, et cetera, and teach children about animals. Nice 84 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,360 and So, while I was doing that, a neighbor who 85 00:05:17,399 --> 00:05:20,680 had Irish setters, invited me to a training class that 86 00:05:20,759 --> 00:05:24,800 she was going to to watch and they had an 87 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,920 apprentice program. So I did my darness to try to 88 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,279 be asked into that apprentice program. But my golden retriever 89 00:05:33,399 --> 00:05:37,680 had other ideas. He lifted his leg and urinated on 90 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,759 me in front of everybody when I tried to get 91 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,160 him to do something, and it was kind of a disaster. 92 00:05:42,399 --> 00:05:46,279 But lo and behold, they didn't ask me. I ended 93 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,480 up asking the owner to lunch and was going to 94 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,879 say to her, you know, what suggestions do you have? 95 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,199 Where else can I go? And then she invited me 96 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,040 to join and I apprenticed there for five years and 97 00:05:58,079 --> 00:06:01,160 then came out here in ninety two and started my 98 00:06:01,199 --> 00:06:01,920 own business. 99 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,199 Speaker 4: So what was the name of the golden who pittled 100 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,360 on you? Dugan? Dougan Dugan. At least he didn't do 101 00:06:07,399 --> 00:06:07,959 what do doo? 102 00:06:09,319 --> 00:06:11,639 Speaker 1: That's true, But you know what, had I known then 103 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,079 what I know now, I don't think that would have happened. 104 00:06:14,199 --> 00:06:16,480 I think he'd have been much more responsive. You know, 105 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,079 it's a process here. 106 00:06:18,439 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 4: So you and I go way back. I love all 107 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,240 that you do, and you've been training. Do you have 108 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,319 any idea of how many people you've actually trained in 109 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,600 various levels of a dog courses. 110 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: Thousands. I've never actually counted them, but I mean over 111 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,759 the years, I would say thousands. Wow, I guess I 112 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,279 made train see maybe five hundred people a year. Six 113 00:06:41,399 --> 00:06:42,079 hundred people a year. 114 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:42,959 Speaker 4: That's impressive. 115 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: That's a lot of people. 116 00:06:44,199 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 4: Do you ever walk around Carlsbad and a dog notices you, 117 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,120 kind of like a kid notices their teacher in a 118 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,639 grocery store and does a dog do any kind of like, 119 00:06:53,639 --> 00:06:55,360 oh my god, there's. 120 00:06:54,879 --> 00:06:59,079 Speaker 1: My teacher, Laura. Well, that's funny. Usually first the human 121 00:06:59,199 --> 00:07:02,720 does it. I don't recognize them, you know, if they 122 00:07:02,759 --> 00:07:04,879 don't have their dogs, so you know, they go hi, 123 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,439 and I go hi and like, oh, this must be 124 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,839 one of my students. If they have their dog with them, 125 00:07:09,839 --> 00:07:12,519 then that saves me. And I, you know, usually recognize 126 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,439 because I always recognize the dogs first. 127 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 4: And I bet the dogs recognize you. 128 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: They do, they do. That's nice. Get lots of little 129 00:07:20,319 --> 00:07:22,439 love letters, you know, my dog, here's your voice on 130 00:07:22,519 --> 00:07:25,000 the videos and they come running, and you know, people 131 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,040 ask me for recordings of my voice. 132 00:07:27,279 --> 00:07:30,399 Speaker 4: You've done a lot of dogs, good and you've helped people, 133 00:07:30,439 --> 00:07:33,600 and I know it's challenging because training people might be 134 00:07:33,639 --> 00:07:36,519 a little bit more tricky than turning dogs. But you 135 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,319 do both species because you want the dog to bring 136 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,360 out the best in the dog. So you have a 137 00:07:43,439 --> 00:07:46,160 favorite breed, let's just say it because I can't pronounce it. 138 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:51,879 Belgian tervurin Belgian tvernurn. Why why that breathe? 139 00:07:52,279 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: You know, probably like most people. When I first started 140 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,079 looking through a dog book when I was going to 141 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,439 get a dog, I saw this picture and it's like, oh, 142 00:08:03,439 --> 00:08:05,879 that is the most gorgeous dog I've ever seen. And 143 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,199 when I finally met one in person, it just sealed 144 00:08:09,199 --> 00:08:11,920 the deal. And I might sticks now my sixth spelt. 145 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 4: How are they different than the malinmaw, which seems to 146 00:08:14,639 --> 00:08:15,639 be the police dog? 147 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,639 Speaker 1: The malin wah, yeah, used by the police, is a 148 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,920 little bit more intense, okay, and uh a little more 149 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:29,720 compact maybe slightly. But Spice actually has a father from 150 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,039 Europe and she's like a malin waw. 151 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 4: Okay. So you mentioned you have now had six, she's 152 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:37,080 number six. 153 00:08:37,159 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: Spice's number six. 154 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 4: Okay. So now we're gonna get to your book, and 155 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,720 I do want everybody to get the book. It is 156 00:08:45,759 --> 00:08:49,600 available on Amazon. It is called the Whole title Please. 157 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:55,399 It is called Loving Mick My Reactive Dog, How an 158 00:08:55,399 --> 00:08:59,799 award winning dog trainer learned to help her own reactive dog. 159 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,159 So tell us how you met Mick, And I guess 160 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,840 you're living in beautiful, sunny California. But wasn't Mick a 161 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:07,840 puppy in Michigan. 162 00:09:08,159 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: Yes, he was a puppy in Michigan, and I had 163 00:09:10,919 --> 00:09:15,440 gotten another two other dogs from this same breeder in Michigan. 164 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,679 So at the time, I just had Grace and Mick 165 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,799 came to us at eight and a half weeks old, 166 00:09:21,159 --> 00:09:23,720 and we just fell over heels in love with them. 167 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,720 And you know, everything appeared to be going smoothly for 168 00:09:27,799 --> 00:09:31,519 a very short amount of time until it wasn't all right. 169 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,840 So let's dive in, because I guess I want to 170 00:09:33,879 --> 00:09:36,200 ask a question, and I'm going to have you answered 171 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:37,360 maybe later on too. 172 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,639 Speaker 4: Why why were you so inspired? Of all the dogs 173 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,080 that you've trained, of all the dogs that you've had, 174 00:09:44,879 --> 00:09:48,039 what was it about Mick that made you say I 175 00:09:48,159 --> 00:09:49,360 need to share this story. 176 00:09:49,879 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: Mick was like no other dog that I had ever 177 00:09:52,639 --> 00:09:57,240 met or encountered, and he really was a handful. I 178 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,200 had no idea what to do with him, and it 179 00:10:01,279 --> 00:10:04,000 was like, he's my boy, I love him more than anything, 180 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,559 and I need to figure this out. And it took 181 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,440 me on a journey, and wow, what a journey of 182 00:10:10,519 --> 00:10:15,200 learning it was. So yeah, he's special. He's special for sure. 183 00:10:15,279 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 4: And how has that appreciation of that challenge impacted you 184 00:10:19,519 --> 00:10:22,440 as a dog trainer today when you're meeting people that 185 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,679 might have a challenging dog. 186 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:29,159 Speaker 1: I think it really taught me to open my eyes 187 00:10:29,519 --> 00:10:32,440 and see what was in front of me and to 188 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,919 figure out how to work with it. 189 00:10:35,519 --> 00:10:39,399 Speaker 4: So if you were Webster's Dictionary right now, because you know, 190 00:10:39,759 --> 00:10:41,879 you know a lot, what would you how would what 191 00:10:42,039 --> 00:10:45,759 is your definition of a reactive dog? And I think 192 00:10:45,799 --> 00:10:48,639 even in your book you mentioned, you know, up to 193 00:10:48,759 --> 00:10:52,720 seventy five percent of dogs may show some sort of reactivity. 194 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,120 Mm hmmm, So what is react? What is that? 195 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: A reactive dog is a dog that tends to get 196 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,720 very overstimulated by certain things. It could be dogs, it 197 00:11:03,759 --> 00:11:05,600 could be little kids, it could be people. 198 00:11:05,879 --> 00:11:08,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it could be squirrels. 199 00:11:08,159 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: Whatever. They get very overstimulated, they fixate. They may start 200 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,840 barking and lunging, and they can be very difficult to 201 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,759 control and contain. 202 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,879 Speaker 4: And it isn't it a little impossible when a dog 203 00:11:23,039 --> 00:11:27,519 is in the reactive stage, you know, I don't think 204 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,879 that's a time for tree or say it stay. 205 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,399 Speaker 1: Once the dog, Yeah, once the adrenaline goes up and 206 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,639 the dog is in that state, no force, nothing you 207 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,080 can do can stop it. If they get to that point, 208 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,840 you immediately have to remove them from the situation. 209 00:11:44,279 --> 00:11:47,919 Speaker 4: So okay. So that segues into mix. So I don't 210 00:11:47,919 --> 00:11:50,240 want to give away everything in the book because I 211 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,240 want people to buy your book. But it's really good, folks. 212 00:11:53,519 --> 00:11:57,559 You know, you took him to a puppy class and 213 00:11:57,879 --> 00:11:59,360 you started seeing some things. 214 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,279 Speaker 1: So I took him to a class and it was 215 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,440 actually someone that had worked with me for a very 216 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,679 long time, and I was just, you know, caught up 217 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,240 in the excitement. They were so happy for me, and 218 00:12:12,279 --> 00:12:14,600 they were making a big deal and everybody was saying 219 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:15,360 how cute he. 220 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 4: Was, How old was Mick at the time. 221 00:12:17,519 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: He was actually he had just turned ten weeks old. 222 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:21,879 Speaker 4: Oh wow, okay. 223 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,159 Speaker 1: And so I was really caught up in that excitement, 224 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,480 and I guess that focus on me and how cute 225 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,399 he was, and I wasn't really reading the fact that 226 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,519 he was saying, you know, you're going way too fast here. 227 00:12:33,639 --> 00:12:37,279 This is really overwhelming for me. It's way too much. 228 00:12:37,919 --> 00:12:40,759 So what happened, So, you know, in the beginning, he 229 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,639 you know, kind of listened to me and he would 230 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,840 take treats. And as they started progressing with the socialization 231 00:12:46,039 --> 00:12:49,679 exercise where he had to interact with other people, I 232 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,039 could tell that he would, you know, he refused some treats. 233 00:12:53,399 --> 00:12:56,200 He would give a lot of body signals indicating that 234 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,480 he was stressed. You know, he'd be blinking his eyes 235 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,200 and yawning and you know, and being still and even 236 00:13:02,279 --> 00:13:05,240 you know, had sweaty pop heads, which is a sign 237 00:13:05,279 --> 00:13:07,879 of stress, and you know, and I just kind of 238 00:13:07,879 --> 00:13:11,919 went like, oh, you'll warm up. It's all good. Everybody 239 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,799 thinks he's cute, and everybody thinks this is great. So 240 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,559 I just kind of dismissed it when I shouldn't have. 241 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 4: Then you were in an agility class and something happened. 242 00:13:21,799 --> 00:13:23,879 Speaker 1: Yep. So now fast forward. 243 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 4: And it's an indoor agility class, which I also want 244 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:27,399 to make that distinction. 245 00:13:27,879 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, So fast forward, you know, with some of the 246 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,960 experiences that he had and you know, and some of 247 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,519 the reactivity, and someone came into the class and they 248 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:41,799 had a super high energy black lab and that caused 249 00:13:41,879 --> 00:13:45,679 Mick to be very stressed and very concerned that that 250 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,080 dog was going to come into his space. So it 251 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,399 took a lot of maneuvering and managing, you know, to 252 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,639 keep that dog out of his space. And then also 253 00:13:56,799 --> 00:14:01,519 he had zero impulse control. I didn't know how to 254 00:14:01,639 --> 00:14:05,159 bring him down once he would get super excited about what. 255 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 4: Does that mean that the term zero impulse control? 256 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: So basically, you know, so with the reactivity, he would say, oh, 257 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,559 I'm really excited, you know, and then he would start 258 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,639 barking and you know, not listening and just kind of 259 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,039 going crazy, and there was no way for me to 260 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,399 reel him in, and he caused a big ruckus in 261 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,679 the class. The owner got annoyed and said, this is 262 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,000 a problem. You know, we need to contain his barking. 263 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,600 And she said, you know, well, why don't we put 264 00:14:33,639 --> 00:14:35,320 an electronic collar on him? 265 00:14:35,679 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 4: Oh, hell to the no. 266 00:14:37,399 --> 00:14:39,679 Speaker 1: And I said, you know, no, you know, I'm not 267 00:14:39,799 --> 00:14:41,799 comfortable with that. You know, I don't think that that 268 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,120 is a good idea. And so she tried to talk 269 00:14:44,159 --> 00:14:47,559 me into it. She explained how it worked, and you know, 270 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,519 let's put this on and this is going to do this, 271 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,799 and I said, no, that I don't want to do that. 272 00:14:52,919 --> 00:14:55,320 And I said, you know what, we'll we'll leave class 273 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,679 and I said, let me work with him some more. 274 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,960 I'm going to work with him really hard to try 275 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:04,080 to contain his his you know, impulses in his excitement, 276 00:15:04,279 --> 00:15:07,559 and can we come back at the next session. So 277 00:15:07,799 --> 00:15:10,840 I kind of talked her into it. She very reluctantly agreed, 278 00:15:11,919 --> 00:15:16,080 and so when we went back to that first session again, 279 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,639 that was when this black lab was there. And the 280 00:15:19,679 --> 00:15:24,039 first day I had him under control, I had to 281 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,360 be very firm, you know, very corrective with him, let's say, 282 00:15:28,399 --> 00:15:31,320 maybe a little punitive, and he was kind of surprised 283 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,600 because he knew that I never treated him that way. 284 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,919 But he listened to me. But as the class started 285 00:15:37,919 --> 00:15:41,159 progressing in the weeks, it got harder and harder and 286 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:45,159 harder to control him, and he started the barking, and 287 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,320 then the instructor suggested, well, let's put him in the crate, 288 00:15:48,919 --> 00:15:50,720 you know, while he waits his turn to go on 289 00:15:50,759 --> 00:15:52,879 the floor, which was a bad idea because he wasn't 290 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,840 used to that, so it brought his stress up. And 291 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,440 when it was our turn, he started barking and he 292 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,080 wouldn't listen to me, and he jumped up at me, 293 00:16:03,799 --> 00:16:07,360 and his tooth caught me right here on this delicate 294 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,279 part of your skin, and I started. 295 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 4: Gushing under the chin. 296 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,279 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, right under the chin here. And I mean everybody, 297 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,000 I remember, they just gasped in horror. Conary is kind 298 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,720 of near there, right yeah, And I mean, I mean 299 00:16:20,759 --> 00:16:24,159 everybody was just like horrified that I had this horribly 300 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:28,559 aggressive dog. And we left and we were kicked out, 301 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,360 but it didn't matter because at that point the light 302 00:16:32,399 --> 00:16:35,159 bulb went on and you know, I said to myself, 303 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,840 I can't control this boy. I need help, all right. 304 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:43,159 Speaker 4: So we're speaking with Laura Christensen. She is a professional 305 00:16:43,279 --> 00:16:45,919 dog trainer, actually National Dog Trainer of the Year from 306 00:16:45,919 --> 00:16:49,039 twenty twenty five, and she wrote a new book called 307 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,200 Loving Mick, My Reactive Dog. We're going to continue this 308 00:16:53,279 --> 00:16:56,320 after we take this quick break, so sit, stay, we'll 309 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:56,799 be right. 310 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: Back time for a walk on the red carpet. 311 00:17:02,919 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: Of course, oh behave. 312 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 3: Will be backing up lash right after these messages. 313 00:17:09,759 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 2: We wear fur and we're damn proud of it. What 314 00:17:13,279 --> 00:17:15,839 ends our four legs and our tail and we can 315 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,519 go to the bathroom outside. Well, we may not be 316 00:17:18,559 --> 00:17:23,119 too proud of that. Sniff around, Ben, Mike your spot 317 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:30,839 right here. Pet Life Radio, Let's talk pets, Let's talk past, 318 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,880 Let's done, pet Headline. 319 00:17:33,559 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 3: Radio, Ptlight Radio dot Com. All right, this is Brandon McMillan, 320 00:17:38,279 --> 00:17:41,119 hosts of Lucky Dog on ABS, and I want to 321 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,400 invite you all to listen to Arden Moore. 322 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 2: On the O Behave Show on Petlight Radio. Truck me 323 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,279 when I say, good, good. 324 00:17:49,079 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 3: Go on, we're back from the lot. Just check the paper. 325 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,400 And we had our record showing at the box, the 326 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,680 letterbox that is now back to. 327 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,839 Speaker 2: Here's aardy, Welcome back to. 328 00:18:02,799 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 4: The obih Show on tet Life Radio. On our show 329 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,839 today is a remarkable woman named Laura Christensen. You in 330 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:14,160 the southern California area, Carlsbad, San Diego area, check her out. 331 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,799 Gotta if you have a dog. She knows how to 332 00:18:16,839 --> 00:18:20,119 train dogs. And what I think this book is telling 333 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:24,640 us all Laura, is that you had this beautiful dog 334 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:29,319 you loved and there's so many lessons that you learned 335 00:18:29,599 --> 00:18:34,839 from Mix's short life, right, yes, yes, and let's let 336 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,400 the cat out of the bag. You actually approached me 337 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,799 and said, you want to write a book. So why 338 00:18:40,839 --> 00:18:43,960 would you want to write a book about a situation 339 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,640 like this rather than a pat on the back about 340 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,119 how many great dogs you've trained. 341 00:18:48,599 --> 00:18:50,519 Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, it was a book that needed to 342 00:18:50,519 --> 00:18:55,319 be written. Number one, to honor Mix. Number two, to 343 00:18:56,759 --> 00:19:00,039 honor everyone else that has a reactive dog, and to 344 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,839 do my best to help them with that because it 345 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,160 is so so common and I see people making all 346 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,920 of the mistakes that I made with Mick. They will 347 00:19:11,039 --> 00:19:15,480 keep taking their dog into a situation that causes them stress, 348 00:19:15,519 --> 00:19:19,559 and they just keep doing it over and over and over, 349 00:19:20,519 --> 00:19:24,559 hoping for a different result. But what actually happens is 350 00:19:24,599 --> 00:19:30,559 the dog becomes worse, the becavior becomes more ingrained, and 351 00:19:31,319 --> 00:19:34,839 so there is a way to not get to that point. 352 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 4: Well, in your book, you do tell the story of Mick, 353 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,599 but you also have a whole section on tips for people, 354 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,480 and you also have some advice for people who have 355 00:19:45,759 --> 00:19:49,960 none reactive dogs. Meeting a reactive dog, Can you share 356 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,079 a tip about that? Because they have this perfect dog 357 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:58,240 who's easy going and a person has another dog that 358 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,359 is reactive, but what can you share? 359 00:20:00,559 --> 00:20:04,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, just even if you have a friendly, outgoing dog, 360 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,240 please do not assume that everyone else has a friendly, 361 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,559 outgoing dog. You do need to be respectful of space. 362 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,200 You wouldn't go up to a stranger, you know, and hey, 363 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,079 how are you doing, and get into their space and 364 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,400 give them you know, you go on Facebook friend or not? Yeah, 365 00:20:18,559 --> 00:20:21,799 hopefully not. So it's the same thing with dogs. You 366 00:20:21,839 --> 00:20:24,720 need to be respectful. Just because your dog wants to 367 00:20:24,759 --> 00:20:28,440 go and say hi, doesn't mean that they should. They 368 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,279 should be calm, they should be in control. If you 369 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,640 do want them to meet another dog, ask the owner 370 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:35,359 if it's okay. 371 00:20:35,839 --> 00:20:40,759 Speaker 4: Yes, politeness never goes out of style. Yes, it so. 372 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,160 You having your book on page fifty seven, I know 373 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,359 you haven't memorized it, but you say, how do you 374 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,319 teach your dog to have a little self control? Especially 375 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,000 dogs that might be reactive? 376 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: So I think people always reinforce their dogs for excitement, 377 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,400 and it's hard. You know, they come home and the 378 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:00,359 dogs jumping hi. 379 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 4: You know, Oh he's so cute. 380 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,519 Speaker 1: Oh he just wants to say hi. Oh you know, 381 00:21:04,559 --> 00:21:06,160 I don't want to stop him. I don't want to, 382 00:21:06,519 --> 00:21:09,680 you know, spike his personality, you know, et cetera. So 383 00:21:09,759 --> 00:21:13,400 it's teaching the dog to be calm and polite. And 384 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,960 you can do that all around with your interactions. Let's 385 00:21:17,039 --> 00:21:21,160 wait before you get your food, Let's wait before you 386 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,559 step out the door. Let's wait before I put your 387 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,799 leash on. Good, wait before I throw the toy. Any 388 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,759 kind of a situation that you can think of, just 389 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,880 request calm and wait until it happens, and then reinforce 390 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:37,720 that behavior. 391 00:21:38,039 --> 00:21:38,599 Speaker 4: I like it. 392 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that gets reinforced tents to start repeating itself. 393 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 394 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,079 Speaker 4: I have ConA and Ema, my two dogs, and they 395 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,240 get rewarded for having doggy manners at dinner. They have 396 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,599 to sit, stay and then the bulls down. They look 397 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,920 at me and then I say, calmly okay, and then 398 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,160 they go eat away from each other. So there's no stress. 399 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,960 But yeah, I think doggy manners ever goes out of style? 400 00:22:01,039 --> 00:22:02,240 Does it? Never? 401 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: Never? 402 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,799 Speaker 4: So with Mick, you mentioned that there are some mental 403 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:12,440 and emotional factors involving reactivity in dogs. I know it's 404 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,960 a science that hasn't been completely solved, but can you 405 00:22:16,039 --> 00:22:19,200 talk about that we could make a dog reactive. 406 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: You know they always talk about nature versus nurture. Yeah, 407 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,640 I always think that it's you know, it's always both. 408 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:30,799 Dumb dogs just have a predisposition to view something as stressful. 409 00:22:31,079 --> 00:22:33,920 And when they view something as stressful and the owner 410 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,559 doesn't see it and they keep kind of putting them 411 00:22:36,559 --> 00:22:41,720 into that situation, the dog will usually almost always give cues, 412 00:22:41,839 --> 00:22:44,480 this is too much. I'm uncomfortable, just like Mip did, 413 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,359 and they keep pushing it and insisting on it. Next thing, 414 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,720 you know, the dog will say, okay, well I've been 415 00:22:49,759 --> 00:22:53,480 trying to tell you and you're not listening. I need 416 00:22:53,519 --> 00:22:58,759 to do something else. So reactivity and of itself, it's 417 00:22:58,799 --> 00:23:01,920 not a positive trait, but it's not aggression. 418 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, explain that. What does that mean? 419 00:23:04,279 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: So it's not aggression, it actually is they're doing a favor. 420 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:12,920 They're saying I'm uncomfortable. I'm telling you please give me space, 421 00:23:13,079 --> 00:23:18,519 please stay away. And if that's not respected and other 422 00:23:18,599 --> 00:23:22,000 dogs keep getting the dog reactive dog will say, all right, 423 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,119 they're just not getting the message. Now I got to 424 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,200 go to plan B, which can become aggression. 425 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,039 Speaker 4: Gotcha, Well, I'm trained as a fear free speaker, and 426 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,079 you know fas fear, anxiety, stress, And I've been taught 427 00:23:35,079 --> 00:23:38,519 that you know a dog, you approach not feeling comfortable 428 00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:42,920 about the approach can freeze, fidget, flee, or fight. Right, 429 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,160 it sounds like us humans, we only have two legs 430 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,559 and two eyeballs, Laura. It sounds like we need to 431 00:23:49,599 --> 00:23:52,920 pay stop and start paying attention to our dogs more. 432 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,680 In dog people situations, it seems like we don't. We 433 00:23:56,799 --> 00:23:58,720 kind of just go blah blah blah blah blah. 434 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to see. I think that I can 435 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,440 compare it to just any kind of a task that 436 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,839 you do, where it's like if you take the time 437 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,640 to see it to do it right, you have a 438 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,599 good result. And most of the time we're just going 439 00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:17,960 so fast and we miss it because the cues are 440 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,920 always there, we just missed them. 441 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 4: So you see people walking their dogs. I try my 442 00:24:23,559 --> 00:24:26,279 best to have ConA and Emma kind of walk with me, 443 00:24:26,759 --> 00:24:29,200 but then I let them go to sniff because I 444 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,000 know it's important. But I never put them on one 445 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,319 of those retractable leashes. Right, Please tell me I'm being 446 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,319 a good girl, Arden, good girl. 447 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,519 Speaker 1: Yes, you are being a very good girl. Retract the 448 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,480 leashes can be a hazard. So that's not to say 449 00:24:45,599 --> 00:24:48,039 you have a regular six foot leash that you cannot 450 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,880 you can't allow your dog to sniff and have a 451 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,200 good time. But here's the compromise. My dog can heal, 452 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,240 which means being right at my left side and paying attention, 453 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,720 sit when I do, et cetera, et cetera. And then 454 00:25:00,759 --> 00:25:04,839 there's the loose leash walking. Can't say that fast. The 455 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,759 loose leash walking basically saying you can go to the 456 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,559 end of the leash and sniff as long as there 457 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,960 is nothing more than mild tension on the leash. If 458 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,440 you go to yank me, oh, we have to go, 459 00:25:21,519 --> 00:25:23,160 oh no, we're going to kind of do a little 460 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,920 circle and resets good. 461 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,799 Speaker 4: Yes, instead of hel I always say to ConA and 462 00:25:27,839 --> 00:25:31,640 Emma walk nicely, yes, And they walk nicely and during 463 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,559 the walk now, I always have a bag of treats. 464 00:25:34,599 --> 00:25:36,240 But you know, every once in a while they look 465 00:25:36,319 --> 00:25:39,119 back at me like is it treat time? And I 466 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,160 ignore it. And then when you're not looking, I'll say, hey, sit, 467 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,240 and they sit, they look at me, and then I 468 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,039 reach in to get them a treat. Why is it 469 00:25:48,079 --> 00:25:51,920 so important that timing sequence versus showing the treat and 470 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:52,720 then saying sit. 471 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: You want a dog to do a behavior first, and 472 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,960 then you tell them they're right, and then you reward it. 473 00:26:00,079 --> 00:26:02,400 And that's so different. I mean, I'll never forget. It 474 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,799 was the first time that Spice was off lesi in 475 00:26:04,839 --> 00:26:07,880 a you know, safe appropriate area. She got way ahead 476 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,839 of me and all of a sudden she turned and 477 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,200 looked at me and I went, yeah, amazing, and she 478 00:26:13,279 --> 00:26:15,240 looked at you, Oh yeah, I meant to do that, 479 00:26:16,759 --> 00:26:20,559 so mark good behaviors. Yes, and she's like, this was 480 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,160 my idea and it's been her idea ever since. 481 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,079 Speaker 4: Now this is going to make me cry, but I'm 482 00:26:26,079 --> 00:26:28,680 not as enough as you, I'm sure. But I love 483 00:26:28,759 --> 00:26:32,519 your dedication in your book, Loving Mick, my reactive Dog. 484 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,319 You're right in the dedication. You actually dedicate this book 485 00:26:36,319 --> 00:26:39,640 to Mick, and you say, to my beloved Mick, I 486 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,640 wouldn't change a thing. You inspired me to be a 487 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,640 better person and trainer. I don't think a day goes 488 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,039 by where you don't think of Meck, but talk about that. 489 00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:51,839 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. So you know, he's always in my heart 490 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,759 and the lessons that he taught me, it was all 491 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,160 for a reason. If I didn't experience. Any of that, 492 00:26:59,839 --> 00:27:02,440 I wouldn't have been able to figure out, you know, 493 00:27:02,519 --> 00:27:04,680 how to help him and therefore figure out how to 494 00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:06,039 help other people. 495 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,799 Speaker 4: So when did the book come out? 496 00:27:09,079 --> 00:27:11,319 Speaker 1: The book actually came out, Oh, probably about. 497 00:27:11,079 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 4: Six weeks ago. Okay, So talk about how it's been 498 00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:16,839 since you've now added the title author. 499 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: You know what, I think that right after I won 500 00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:23,559 the National Dog Trainer of the Year, I was honestly, 501 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,359 I knew deep inside that I had a talent and 502 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:31,200 I was good. But it caused other people to acknowledge that, 503 00:27:31,759 --> 00:27:34,200 you know, maybe some people that might not have initially. 504 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,039 And I think that I've always had you know, good respect, 505 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,799 you know, since that, But with this now it's like, wow, 506 00:27:42,319 --> 00:27:44,680 you know, this is somebody that I want to bring 507 00:27:44,759 --> 00:27:46,720 my dog and I want to work with her and 508 00:27:46,759 --> 00:27:49,519 I want to train my dog. And so, you know, 509 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,799 people look to me now even more than they did. 510 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,799 Speaker 4: Well, you know why, because don't we learn from our 511 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,359 disappointments and our setbacks better than if if you were 512 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,400 miss Laura Christensen, ai dog trainer. I don't think I 513 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,799 would want you as my dog trainer. Yeah. 514 00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:09,599 Speaker 1: And I started with a dog lifting his leg and 515 00:28:10,839 --> 00:28:12,960 front of my ears. So you know, it's like that 516 00:28:13,079 --> 00:28:15,559 humbled me. So every time that I, you know, look 517 00:28:15,559 --> 00:28:17,480 at someone and are not doing the right thing, I just, 518 00:28:17,599 --> 00:28:20,200 you know, think to myself, you need to be patient. 519 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,079 Speaker 4: You started there, that's right. What is something that dogs 520 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,039 have taught you to be a better two legger? 521 00:28:27,559 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: Just to really see and to accept they are who 522 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,400 they are. They were born a certain way and the 523 00:28:34,519 --> 00:28:40,000 experiences that they had created the behavioral template, and you 524 00:28:40,079 --> 00:28:42,920 need to see that. You need to accept them for 525 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,440 who they are and treat them how they need to 526 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,480 be treated, for their temperament and their experiences. Really, just 527 00:28:50,559 --> 00:28:54,519 like people completely parallels. You can't tease them. They're not 528 00:28:54,559 --> 00:28:55,920 going to be the way you want them to be 529 00:28:56,079 --> 00:28:56,720 or you had. 530 00:28:56,559 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 4: Hoped or yeah. Well, I mean I feel like if 531 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:01,640 I come back as a dog, I'm going to be 532 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,640 a goofy Labrador retriever. What would the breed be for you? 533 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,000 And why? And I'm hoping, I don't know if it's 534 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,200 going to be that certain breed you'd love or your 535 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,920 own personality. What would be your dog breeding? Why? 536 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,559 Speaker 1: Well, I guess no one's ever asked me that question. 537 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,720 I know that when I actually took a quiz online 538 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,519 it labeled me as a Chihuahua. I don't think that 539 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,359 is the case, but yeah, I think I would probably 540 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,079 be a Belgian. 541 00:29:29,599 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 4: Okay, I think so. 542 00:29:30,839 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: I think that our personalities are pretty the same, pretty 543 00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:36,440 much the same, so I would be a Belgian. 544 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, how again, can people learn more about you, Laura Christensen? 545 00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:43,519 Speaker 1: They can go to my website. It's the letter K 546 00:29:43,839 --> 00:29:50,359 the number nine l r NG dot com. 547 00:29:50,839 --> 00:29:52,799 Speaker 4: K nine learning but in a fun way. 548 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: And the book is also available where on Amazon. They 549 00:29:57,759 --> 00:30:01,559 can purchase it on Amazon, or if they attend my classes, 550 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:02,920 they can purchase. 551 00:30:02,519 --> 00:30:06,519 Speaker 4: It for me and get your pod graph. Yes, all right, Well, 552 00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:09,000 we are so delighted to have you on the show. 553 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,039 You were taking on a tough topic and you presented 554 00:30:13,079 --> 00:30:17,440 it with honesty and I do appreciate it. I miss you. 555 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,880 You're a good person. It's hot here in Dallas. 556 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: That's what I had. 557 00:30:21,559 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 4: I still reinforce my girls some of the things that 558 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,920 I learned from you, So thank you for that. Hey, 559 00:30:28,119 --> 00:30:30,839 at this time, pet Pals, that's it for our show today. 560 00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:33,720 I want again get big thanks to our very very 561 00:30:33,759 --> 00:30:37,240 special guest National Dog Trainer of the Year get her book. 562 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,680 Loving Mick. She is Laura Christensen. Big thanks to all 563 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,599 of you tuning in. Shout out to my producer, Mark Winter. 564 00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:48,599 He is the producer of all the shows on Pet 565 00:30:48,599 --> 00:30:51,759 Life Radio and humbly this show you are listening to 566 00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:55,279 right now has been on the air since oh seven. 567 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,039 We are the longest running weekly pet podcast on the 568 00:30:58,039 --> 00:31:01,000 planet and I did that without popping my piece. 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