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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirley You Can't

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Be Serious Podcast. Jason, tell me what we got today.

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Speaker 2: Today we are doing something that the patreons requested.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow. So guys, if you haven't joined our Patreon family,

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going to patreon dot com backslash Shirley Podcast and for

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at little five bucks a month, you get access to

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all of our episodes and you get a voice in

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what episodes we are going to do. So tell me

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about this one.

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Speaker 2: So we put it out to our patreons. We said, hey, guys,

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here's a couple of matchups we got coming up. We like,

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what do you think which one would you like to

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see first? And the people voted, and today we are

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covering Big Versus Twins.

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Speaker 1: We call it the Big Twins Episode, Ladies and Twins Episode.

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I was gonna tell you, so, you had not seen

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Twins when we started this, right, that is correct. I

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watched it for the first time last night.

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Speaker 2: So my first thought when we had said that, I said,

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you know, to myself, I'm like, wow, d is a

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Twins virgin. Yeah, And when you said, hey, I'm gonna

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watch it tonight. I was like, tonight is your nye bro,

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your nyebrow.

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Speaker 1: If only it had been the same type of experience

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with Kelly Preston exactly, then that's where we could go.

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Speaker 2: Okay, man, I'm dying to get into this with you, right, Okay.

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Speaker 1: So, Kelly Preston was born in nineteen sixty four.

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Speaker 2: Let's can we just talk for an hour about Kelly

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Preston play.

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Speaker 1: I really, honestly I had written this, hold On, I

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gotta say this, I gotta say this.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 1: Kelly Preston was born October thirteenth, nineteen sixty two, in Honolulu, Hawaii.

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Her given name was Kelly Kama lay le Lua Smith.

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She would later change it to Preston. Her middle name,

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Kama lay lay Lua means a flowering, evergreen garden. And

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if I could just go play in the garden of

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Kelly Preston's evergreen flowers, I would do it every day.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, we're both in love.

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Speaker 1: After watching this smoking hot and then I was gonna say,

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and that's all that I have to say about Twins.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, we're gonna get into it because this is

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a much beloved movie. And before we really dive into it.

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We are starting our Summer of eighty eight celebration right exactly.

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So here in the next few weeks we're gonna bounce

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around a little bit, but we're gonna celebrate the summer

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of eighty eight. So this week we'll be covering Big

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and Twins. Twins was December of eighty eight. Yeah, a

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couple of weeks from now, we got Poison open up

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and say ah, Living Colors Vivid, and then later it'll

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be Cinderella, Long Cold Winter and Know You eight one

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two by Van Halen. All came out in the summer

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of nineteen eighty eight and gonna be a lot of fun. Yeah,

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so you definitely want to stick around. Push that subscribe

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button so you don't miss any of those great up episodes.

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Speaker 1: So summer of eighty eight, you're probably just getting your

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driver's license quite I was fifteen fifteen, okay, so I

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was twelve going on thirteen, So I'm the same age

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as Josh in this movie. As things are happening.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were talking about how the age difference really

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kind of plays into the enjoyment of this movie. Yeah,

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I was not really interested in being a kid or

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being an adult I just wanted to drive.

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Speaker 1: You wanted to drive?

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: Ironically, that's exactly what Tom Hanks said in an interview

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during the production of Big. They was like, did you

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want to grow up?

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Speaker 2: And He's like, actually, I just wanted to drive.

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Speaker 1: That was what I wanted to do. I wasn't I

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was having fun. I wasn't trying to go be an adult.

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I just wanted to be able to have wheels and

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maybe some money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was basically me. Hey, before we

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get too far down the road on this, we we

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got three little things we got to check off our

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list here right yep. So we discussed how the Patreons

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actually selected this episode. Yep. For us, I think it

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won over Mister Mom versus nine to five, which we

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still think is a fantastic episode.

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Speaker 1: We will cover it.

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Speaker 2: That's coming down the road at some point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Another thing I want to throw out a special shout

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out to our buddy Jeff Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Jeff is a good.

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Speaker 2: Friend of ours. He runs the Film by podcast with

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his buddy Brad and they do a super job over there.

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If you haven't checked them out, you definitely want to

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do that. He sent us a very very special gift

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to the mail the other day. Yeah, so we just

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got done with our Outsiders episode. Yes, okay, we did

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et last summer yep, and we did the Outsiders yep.

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He bumped into see Thomas Howe backstage at a convention. Yes,

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so they talked to him for like fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 1: It's fantastic. Just got done with the Outsider's episode and

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he's over there talking to pony Boy.

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Speaker 2: That's right. And his buddy who was there, said, Hey,

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did you you talk about the hit your episode that

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the film I did, or did you talk about what

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we're gonna do? And he said, no, it's too busy

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pumping up the Shirley podcast on the Outsiders, which I

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thought was hilarious. So he sent to you a signed,

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like an autograph picture of see Thomas how on the Outsiders, says,

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d stay gold, see Thomas Howe.

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Speaker 1: Pony Boy, Thanks, Jeff, I really appreciate it. It's so cool, right,

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very cool.

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Speaker 2: That's and that's now hanging at Shirley Studios.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sitting here drinking out of my film by

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podcast cup as we're doing this episode, the one that

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changes colors exactly, wearing my T shirt that's exactly right.

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Speaker 2: And then he actually sent me a signed picture from

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d Wallace my namesake. Right, Yeah, listen to what d

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Wallace wrote to me. Okay, so I'm a huge fan

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of the movie Secret Admirer.

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Speaker 1: Right to me, it's Kelly Preston.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so to me, that is an overlooked movie from

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the eighties. I don't know why it's not listed as

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a classic teen comedy. See Thomas Howe, Corey Ham, Laurie Laughlin,

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Kelly Preston, d Wallace, fred Ward Cases, Samsco. Full of People. Anyway,

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Jeff knew that I was a big fan of Secret Admirers,

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So since d Wallace was in that movie, he had

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her sign and she just signed this on her own.

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It says love you Jason from your not so Secret

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Admirer d Wallace, Your heart go pitter patter, and she's

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the mom of the eighties.

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Speaker 1: I loved it, you know, Et Baby.

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Speaker 2: Et Kujo, Secret Admirer, the Howling Yeah, yes, okay.

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Speaker 1: And then there's one more person that we absolutely have

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to give a shout out to. We we got ladies

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and gentlemen. We've gotten several reviews on the podcast, but

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we got what is probably the longest and maybe funniest

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review that we've ever had, and so we have to

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read it out loud to you. Now, this is a

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little tooting our own horn, but it was worth it

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for what this guy put down.

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Speaker 2: This is tooting our own horn, but really we're tooting

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his horn because we really want to shake the wishes

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and have him come out and contact us through email,

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because absolutely, yeah, we we'd love to get to know

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this guy. But this is from Morgan's Morgue. Okay, yeah,

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he said. I teach social studies at a military school

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in Virginia. I feel it is imperative that I keep

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up with current events so as to best explain topics

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that may come up in my classes. But I discovered

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the Shirly Guys just before Thanksgiving of twenty twenty two.

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Prior to this, I would listen on my morning drive

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time show to stay up on local current events and

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listen to public radio to get more in depth coverage

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on national and global issues. Boy was I a moron.

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Since Turkey Day, I have not turned on my radio

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or from my thirty minute commute each way because of

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these guys. I have been loving every day's drive to

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and from work, reliving the glory of yesteryear and getting

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a new perspective on things I was too dense to

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understand as a teenager in the late eighties and early nineties.

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Who cares about global warming, geopolitical issues and pledge week

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When you've got so many episodes of the Shirley Camp

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series podcast, I am learning so much about movies and

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music that made me and using that knowledge to influence

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another generation of misspent youth. I am seriously thinking of

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developing a few lesson plans on entertainment trends of the

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eighties and nineties in my classroom, and I can thank

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Jason and d for that. Do yourself a favor and

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drop into the best eighties and nineties pop culture podcasts

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on the interwebs. You will thank me later, and more importantly,

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you should thank the Shirley guys.

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Speaker 1: Lord Morgan, take off your mask, tell us who you are,

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a wise and witty man. We need to know your

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real name. Hit us up Shirleypodcast at gmail dot com,

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or you hit us up on Twitter our Facebook. There's

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a bajillion followers that we've got out there for those,

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but feel free to just email us. We want to

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know who you are and maybe send you a special

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present for that awesome review. Guys, if you want to

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help us out, submit a review is if it's as

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hysterical or even close to as funny as that one was,

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we will be happy to read it on the air.

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Speaker 2: Lord Morgan, thank you you made both Diana's day. That

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, onto the podcast. Jason, Yep, you got something,

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Speaker 2: Just name, address, and badge number right here in LA.

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Speaker 1: We are not talking about die Hard today, but that

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is related to what we are talking about because I

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discovered as we're doing our research that we typically do

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that the young actress who gave the line that Jason

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just gave to us is Penny Marshall's freaking daughter. That

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blew my mind, dude, and her birth is possibly a

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pivotal moment in the life of Penny Marshall that changes

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entertainment history.

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Speaker 2: Really Okay, yeah, what do you got for?

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Speaker 1: Well, before we get in there, let me just just

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to throw back to a film buy. We covered Ghostbusters

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two as guests on the film Buy It was back

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in November of twenty one. If anybody wants to go

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when we talked about Ivan Rightman. I listened to it

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again today because it's been two years. I needed to

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and so I went back and listened to it. I

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encourage you guys to It's so fun. I have such

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a good time with Jeff and Brad doing those guest episodes. Yeah. So,

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I don't want to rehash the whole history of Ivan

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Rightman again since we've already covered in that episode, but

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Speaker 2: So, Ivan Wrightman's history is pretty freaking interesting.

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Speaker 1: Like he came over as a little kid as a

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stowaway in the bottom of a boat with his family

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to escape Czechoslovakia, like it was crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right.

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Speaker 1: He ends up in Canada, doesn't speak the language, has

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to learn to speak the language, ends up going to

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a composer, but he couldn't find any good, good movies

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to put his music to. So he's like, well, I'll

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making movies and realizes, hey, I'm actually kind of good

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the contests one of the festivals that they have, right

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and so after he gets the film in the film festival,

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he does really well, ends up winning the film festival.

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this is actually really good. I was really impressed, and

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you to know. And so Ivan Rightman is mister Hutzba like.

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movie that you guys are going to release? And he's like, uh, okay,

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Speaker 1: Right. A few weeks later, young college age Ivan Rightman

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is in the office of David Brown and Richard Zanuk

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of Fox Studios, the guys who would go on to

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produce Jaws, right right, and he's like, Hey, I love

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it if you guys just put this as an intro

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piece to this new Dustin Hoffman movie that you've got

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coming out, and they say, okay, we'll do it. So

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Ivan Rightman is a college kid, gets his movie, his

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student film, as the opening reel for this big Dustin

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hoff I mean Dustin Hoffman, top of his game, right.

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Imagine if we put a twenty minute film together and

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somebody said, yeah, I'll put this at the beginning of

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all of the Tom Cruise movies that are coming out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you very much. Yeah, that'd be great.

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Speaker 1: So he does that. I mean, it looks like he's

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already just rocketing up the ladder. And then he directs

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another movie that's called The Columbus of Sex. Well, as

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it turns out, place in Canada that he decides to

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air this film is very conservative, and he gets arrested

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for pornography. Okay, yeah, So all of a sudden bad

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right turn right, you know, oh crap, and then he's like, okay,

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I got to make this work. He gets out of

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his legal troubles, He's like, I got to make this work.

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So he goes into absurd debt making the movie called

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Cannibal Girls. Cannibal Girls, right, So he's got this movie

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called Cannibal Girls. He's got Eugene Levy in it, yes,

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and so it's you know, it's funny and it's horror

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and it's raunchy. And he manages it to get it

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in the con Film Festival and it's kind of this

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wow gorilla operation with him and all his production crew

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people to come in to see the movie. Some folks

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up being a big producer, and he stops Ivan Wrightman

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after he's done watching the movie, like literally like day

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before the festival is over, and he's like, hey, I

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saw your movie. It might be bad enough that we

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could make some money on it. And Ivan Wrightman was like, great,

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what do we do?

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Speaker 2: Sounds awesome?

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Speaker 1: And he's like, I'm going to this thing, you know,

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talk to me tomorrow. Well we'll figure it out. And

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he's like, well, how how do I talk to you?

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some big fancy hotel. Just come by ask for me,

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and so he evan rightman. Of course, goes by. When

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he gets up to the guy's room, there's this it's

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a giant penthouse. There's this huge party with all of

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these stars, and again, Ivan Wrightman is just this young

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Speaker 2: Just hi, Hey, it's right Redverend, Hey, it's yea.

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Speaker 1: And so he gets this guy and he's like, hey,

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he told me to come see He's like, oh yeah,

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that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, hey, we'll get together. I'll

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meet you at the studio. And Ivan Ryman's like, can

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we do something like now, I'm just a little worried.

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And the guy's like, okay, go back in my bedroom

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and we'll talk. Okay, yeah, right, So he goes back

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to the bedroom. It's not anything, you know, not anything

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weird like that, but.

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Speaker 2: Go back in the bedroom, get undressed. I'll be there

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in a minute.

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Speaker 1: And the guy, the guy, the producer, comes back in

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and he's like, listen, I tell you what. I'll give

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you fifty thousand dollars for it. Keep in mind he's

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one hundred thousand in debt. Right. He goes, I'll give

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you fifty thousand dollars for it and a percentage of

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the profits. Does that sound good?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Trying to get him out of the right house, right,

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you know. Yeah, So Ivan Wrightman says, yeah, do you

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mind writing that down? And the guy's like, okay, here,

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here's a napkin, all right, fifty thousand dollars and a

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certain percentage of the profits. Here you go. And Ivan

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Ryman is like, do you mind signing that? And the

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guy's like, listen, here is my name, shake my hand.

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I'm telling you this will be the deal. And sure

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enough he follows through with his words.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Cannibal Girls gets released, but the studio is worried about

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some particularly scary scenes and some particularly raunchy scenes, so

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they do this thing where they put warning bells in

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whenever there's a scary scene, Like they literally have a disclaimer.

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It's part of the trailer. It's like, this movie is

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so scary, we have to warn you before you have

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a sexy scene or a scary scene, right, and so literally, yeah,

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as the movie is going on, it's like it's like

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the harpo Mark's horn is like, and then it shows

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the scary scene and then when it's safe, you know,

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it's like the big bom and you're you know, you

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can open your eyes again and watch whatever's going crazy

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and Ivan Rymond's like, this is kind of killing all

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the surprise in the movie, and they're like, dude, that

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is not why people are coming to watch this movie.

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Just trust us, and you know, history is made. He

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goes on and he starts his own theater company, he

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starts his own TV production company.

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Speaker 2: So, for those who don't know, Ivan Rightman did meat Balls, YEP, Stripes, Yeah,

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Bolt with Bill Murray. Yeah, And of course later he

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does this little movie called Ghostbusters. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I might have heard of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. From there, I mean he did Kindergarten Cop and Twins,

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which we're going to talk about today Junior with Danny

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DeVito and Arnold Schwarzenegger. Again. Yeah, So he's had a

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really really successful.

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Speaker 1: Movie career, right, I mean Ghostbusters is the big atomic

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bomb for his career for sure. Right, there's just no question, absolutely,

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And that was nineteen eighty four.

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Speaker 2: David Wright write that down and I have this ongoing

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argument about what the best year in movies is.

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Speaker 1: So right, So now this movie, this Ivan Wrightman movie

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that we're about to talk about, didn't come along until

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a few years later in nineteen eighty eight, year before

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Ghostbusters two came out.

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Speaker 2: That's correct.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So how did he get this movie? I don't

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know the answer to that yet, but I can tell you.

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You've also got a story with the writers. Okay. So

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the writers on this, we've got two teams of guys. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So one of them is a British set of partners

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and one of them is an American set of partners. Okay, okay.

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So the British writing team is William Davies and William Osborne.

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This is their first significant screenplay. I mean they have,

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you know, a little bit of work, but really they

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came over from England. Now, William Osborne was a barrister,

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like he was, went to Cambridge Law school, became a barrister.

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But then he and his buddy William Davies says, you

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know what, let's go to California and write movies. And

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he's like, okay. The only preparation that they made before

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they went out to California was that they bought the

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book screenplay and read it five times. That is it. Wow,

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no other experience did they have. They came out to

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la and started writing and this is their first movie.

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Now they would go on to do the Johnny English franchise,

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a bunch of animated hits, Flushed Away, How to Train

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Your Dragon, Puss in Boots, most recently lyle Lyle Crocodile,

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which I don't know if that's good or not.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, well, those are big titles in that world.

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Speaker 1: Oh for sure. If you don't have kids, just let

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me tell you. Those are CDs or DVDs that are

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in a parents catalog at my house. Yep. Right, And

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also this is hilarious. William Davies also co wrote Stop

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or My Mom Will Shoot with mister Blake Snyder of

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Save the Cat.

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Speaker 2: Interesting. Okay, there's a whole backstory with that with Ernold

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Schwarzenegger and sylves Alone.

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Speaker 1: That's right, exactly exactly. And then just a side note,

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just a relative. William davies brother, Michael Davies is the

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guy who brought U Who Wants to Be a Millionaire

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to TV.

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Speaker 2: It's just an interesting, small little show there you go.

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Speaker 1: Might have heard of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: Now the American team is a couple of guys named

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Timothy Harris and Herschel wind Guard. Okay, okay, these are

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the guys who wrote Trading Places. Nice, yes, and that was,

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so they have, They've got a few movies under the belt.

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They did Trading Places, they did Brewsters Millions. They would

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go on to do Kindergarten cop again with Ivan Wrightman

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and Arnold Schwarzenegger. But I didn't even realize this when

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we cover Trading Places. Did you know that it was

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nominated for an OSCAR for Best Original Screenplay? I think

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we com Yeah, yes, I totally missed that. Wow, there

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you go. Not only are they based on three Stooges skits,

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but they are nominated for Oscars. So these four guys

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are the writers behind Twins. So you told me you

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know the story of how it becomes the movie.

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Speaker 2: Well, so I've got a little bit on this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So Arnold Schwarzenegger, Ivan Rightman, and Robin Williams are all

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at dinner in Snowmas, Colorado, and I think this is

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like Winter of nineteen eighty four. Okay, Now, that's a

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big year for Ivan Rightman because Ghostbusters was everywhere, and

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Arnold had just done The Terminator, and of course Rob

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Williams was already a star with Morganmindy and a million

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other movies, right right, So they're all sitting around dinner talking, drinking, eating,

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having a good time, and Ivan Rightman is laughing and

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he's like he turns to Arnold, He's like, you know what,

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you're a funny guy, and Arnold said funny. How like funny?

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Like no, he did take you laugh. I'm here to

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amuse you. So Ivan Rightman is just like, no, you're

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really funny. We need to see this on the screen.

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And arnld Schwarzenegger's like, well, thank you. He's like, there

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is a funny side to my personality, yeah, but nobody

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will let me express it. Like because I'm the action

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hero guy, I'm not a comedian, but I do like

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to be funny. And Ivan Rightman is like, dude, we

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have got to figure out a way to get your

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comedic side on the big screen. Ars Schwartz was like, great,

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I would love to be directed by you, So let's

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do this. Let's figure out a way. And so I

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was like okay. So he came back to him with

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five ideas and they laid them all out and Arnold's like,

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this is the best one. Like I think this one

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right here twins would be the funniest, has the potential

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to be really funny, and Ivan Rightman's like, well, who

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do you do you think would be your twin and

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Arnold schwarzenergraph it says Danny DeVito because physically they're opposites,

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right and Ivan Rightman's like, that's a great idea, I know, Danny,

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let me call him right now.

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Speaker 1: Perfect.

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Speaker 2: And so from that they go and they all have

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dinner together and they sit around the table and they

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talk about it and said wonderful, brainstorming, lots of funny ideas, Arnold, Danny,

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Ivan Rightman, and they said, let's do this. And so

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they all signed a napkin basically said I'm agreeing to

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do this project called Twins. Danny DeVito still has that

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napkins like signing in his living room.

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Speaker 1: Cool story, right, absolutely, so Arnold is telling him, hey,

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nobody's ever given me the chance to be funny, that's right, right, yes,

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this was Arnold Schwarzenegger's first time starring in a major comedy. Yes,

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I pointed out to you that that's a bunch of baloney.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, tell me about this.

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Speaker 1: So when I was a kid, there was a show

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that used to come in all the time. My dad

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thought it was funny.

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Speaker 2: I watched it.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was funny. It's got Kirk Douglas, Okay

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and Margaret and Arnold Schwarzenegger. And it came out in

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nineteen seventy nine, nine years before Twins.

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Speaker 2: What is what are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: This movie is called The Villain The.

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Speaker 2: Old West where the villain were shy?

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Speaker 3: Do you mind taking hold of these police chop.

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Speaker 2: The Indians where restless?

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Speaker 3: And the villains for the heroes of the day Kirk

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Douglas and Margaret, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Foster Brooks, mel Tillis, Ruth

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Buzzy and Paul linked in The villain lated.

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Speaker 1: Peg or if you happen to be from anywhere besides

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the United States, you might know it as Cactus Jack.

470
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But Kirk Douglas plays a villain cowboy like a black

471
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bart mustache twirling dressed in black who is going after

472
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Arnold Swartzenigger and and Margaret as they are making their

473
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journey on a horse drawn carriage. Arnold is literally dressed

474
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in the same clothes that the old Lone Ranger used

475
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to wear, like it's the blue shear tied at the

476
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top costume. Okay, and it is a balls out comedy.

477
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That is, it is an homage to all things Looney Tune.

478
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And when I say it's an homage, there's characters named

479
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Avery Simpson and Parody Jones, which, of course the two

480
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big guys from Looney Tunes biggest guys tex Avery and

481
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Chuck Jones. Right. Avery Jones played by Jack Elam.

482
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy from Canniball Run.

483
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Speaker 1: Right, and Parody Jones is played by Strother Martin who

484
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is a huge cowboy guy. But Canniball Run is important

485
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because the director of the villain was how Needham himself.

486
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Speaker 2: How Needham smoking the band a Canniball Run.

487
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Speaker 1: The stuntman exact Cooper.

488
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

489
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Speaker 1: And just to be clear on how much of a

490
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dedication to the Looney Tunes catalog this is, I was.

491
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I'm pretty confident, and it's been a couple decades since

492
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I've seen the movie. There's a part where Kirk Douglas

493
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paints a cave on the side of a wall and

494
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Arnold Schwartzenigger and a Margaret drive their carriage straight through

495
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the cave, and then Kirk Douglas swings down and smashes

496
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his face into the rock painted.

497
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Speaker 2: Like a cave, the old paint the rock trick.

498
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Speaker 1: They even had Mel Tillis in it to be the

499
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stutter and kind of porky pig character. At one point,

500
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mel Tillis says to Arnold Swartznigger, you talk funny, and

501
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Arnold Swarzenigger says that that's easy for you to say.

502
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh, Hey, mel Tillis is

503
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in a movie. We're getting ready to cover every which

504
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way but loose.

505
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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I'm so excited about it.

506
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Speaker 2: And he sings like an angel.

507
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I love it. I love it. Be sure

508
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and stay tuned, Hit the subscribe button, hit the follow button,

509
00:23:57,559 --> 00:24:00,079
because Jason and I just happen to find that we

510
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love these two crazy old Clint Eastwood knockoff of the

511
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,000
Burt Reynolds Smoky in the End of Fame. We love

512
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these movies and we're just we just said, heck with

513
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whatever we got scheduled market on it, we're doing this.

514
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So go check out that movie. I can't promise that

515
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it's good. It ranks in the five so like it's

516
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gets I got a five point two on IMDb and

517
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it was an absolute financial failure. I think that is

518
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The reason that is known by another name in all

519
00:24:27,519 --> 00:24:30,039
other countries besides the US is because they're like, well,

520
00:24:30,079 --> 00:24:33,039
maybe we'll have more successfully rename it practice to Jack.

521
00:24:33,559 --> 00:24:37,039
That didn't work either, It was it was dismal. So

522
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what happens is that the studio is like, Arnold's never

523
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been a part of a comedy, and they're like, oh wait,

524
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the villain, and like, okay, they've he's never been a

525
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part of a comedy. That's good, right, and so they

526
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don't want to finance the movie.

527
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Speaker 2: That's exactly right. So here's the deal. When they're sitting

528
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at dinner with Ivan Wrightman, Danny DeVito, and r Schwitzenegger,

529
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they all agree they're not going to take a salary.

530
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They are actually the ones taking the risk. So no

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studio really wanted to do a comedy with arn Swarzenegger.

532
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Think about in nineteen eighty eight. This is pre kindergarten

533
00:25:05,559 --> 00:25:07,680
cop this is pre junior, this is this is the

534
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Conen and Terminator days, and you know Predator, right, So

535
00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:13,960
they all agree, no salary, They're just gonna get a

536
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,039
percentage of the back end. Yeah, okay, Well it turns

537
00:25:17,039 --> 00:25:19,880
out Twins made over two hundred million dollars. When it

538
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,400
all figured out, his percentage plus whatever comes up to

539
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,160
be thirty five million dollars.

540
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Speaker 1: Wow.

541
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Speaker 2: They sit around and they talk about how this was

542
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,079
the best decision they ever made financially for Ivan Reitman,

543
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,519
Danny DeVito, and Arne Schwarzenegger. It was fantastic and in fact,

544
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,200
it became such a historic deal the studio. They will

545
00:25:39,319 --> 00:25:43,920
never do that again. Right, they just sat there and

546
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watched these guys just rake in money.

547
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Speaker 1: Right, Okay, let's jump over to big. Transition back to Big, the.

548
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 3: Space goes Downtown Babe, Downtown Sweet Sweet Babe, Sweet sweet.

549
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Speaker 2: Tlemic Chimmi, Shimmy Cocoa, Chimi Shimmy rock chim Coco about

550
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Chimmi shim rot Ah Man a girlfriend a triscu, She said,

551
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get a biscuit. Ice couln't sort o sell what?

552
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Speaker 1: Then the seats ten times I said, I call my

553
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mama's crowd cool.

554
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Speaker 3: I'm sucking a.

555
00:26:13,759 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 2: Stem three more times.

556
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Speaker 1: Okay, Now it has to be said from the outset.

557
00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:22,680
Nineteen eighty eight and late nineteen eighty seven, YEP, was

558
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the time period with little boys in men's bodies.

559
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was kind of for whatever reason, there was

560
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,400
a trend there where four movies came out right around

561
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,000
this time. Yeah, with the same sort of premises Big.

562
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: Right, So let's let's talk about it, because all of

563
00:26:37,319 --> 00:26:43,279
these movies except for Big have a Freaky Friday style

564
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:44,759
to them, right. I mean, if you don't know what

565
00:26:44,759 --> 00:26:47,079
I'm talking about, Freaky Friday's movie that came out in

566
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seventy six, and it's where they both make the wish

567
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,880
at the same time, I wish it could be young again,

568
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I wish it could be old, and they switch bodies, right.

569
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And so in nineteen eighty seven, four studios at the

571
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same time say we want to revisit that, except let's

572
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make them guys instead of girls. Right. Yeah.

573
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Speaker 2: So you had Like Father, Like Son, which came out

574
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in October of eighty seven.

575
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Speaker 1: Okay, Like Father, Like Son is the one with Kirk

576
00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:16,279
Cameron and Dudley Moore, that's right. Okay, so eighty seven,

577
00:27:16,519 --> 00:27:18,680
Kirk Cameron is at the top of his fame. I mean,

578
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the key's the poster on Every Girl's wall in Every.

579
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Speaker 2: Girl, Mister Tiger Beat.

580
00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:26,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure, Like that movie's that guarantee success.

581
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Speaker 2: By the way, we talked about this movie in a

582
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previous episode, did we because it features two songs off

583
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of Girls, Girls Girls by Molly Crue.

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Speaker 1: I did not remember that. Yes, yes, okay, like father,

585
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like son, Dudley Moore, I mean he Dudley Moore is

586
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,160
doing all right in the eighties, of course, Arthur funny

587
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drunk guy.

588
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Speaker 2: All right, go yeah. Then you have eighteen again.

589
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Speaker 1: Okay, eighteen again is the one with George Burns. Yes,

590
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and the Ferris Bueller got from the TV show Firs Bueller.

591
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Speaker 2: You exactly right?

592
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 1: Yes, what's that dude's name.

593
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,559
Speaker 2: David later later? Yes?

594
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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, good, yes, good, good for us to

595
00:28:00,839 --> 00:28:01,200
remember that.

596
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Speaker 2: Hey, wait to go, okay, and then you have vice

597
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,480
versa remember that one?

598
00:28:05,599 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: Yes, so that was Judge Reinhold and Fred Savage again,

599
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,680
a guy who's I mean an up and coming star. Right,

600
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,279
of course one should have been huge as well, right.

601
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Judge reyan Holds fresh off of Beverly Hills

602
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,039
Cop Yeah, fast time it's originally high. Yeah, he's an

603
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up and coming movie star.

604
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Speaker 1: I can tell you I saw every single one of

605
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these movies at the theater. Laughed at every single one

606
00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:28,720
of these movies. Now, keep in mind I was eleven

607
00:28:28,759 --> 00:28:31,160
and twelve, but I enjoyed them. I mean I can

608
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:36,200
remember after eighteen again seeing Schlater whatever, David Schlater doing

609
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,880
his George Burns impression, going that guy is a brilliant actor.

610
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,079
Like I can remember having that conversation like this is

611
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,319
so good. Yeah, yeah, So tell me how did these movies?

612
00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:49,519
How'd they rank? How they fall?

613
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: Well, so here you go, fu like, Fatherlikes Son is

614
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a five point two, eighteen again is a five point

615
00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:59,160
seven vice versus a five point nine. But let's not

616
00:28:59,319 --> 00:29:02,599
forget there was a TV movie called fourteen Going On thirty,

617
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which came out in March of eighty eight.

618
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Speaker 1: So you throw that into the fourteen Going on thirty,

619
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fourteen going on thirty, not thirteen going on third.

620
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Speaker 2: Jennifer Gardan, No, this is another TV movie that came

621
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out right at the same time as all this stuff.

622
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,440
I mean, it's just for whatever reason, it's a trend.

623
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Speaker 1: Everybody thought now's the time to do this, and so.

624
00:29:21,759 --> 00:29:28,119
Speaker 2: The last one at the table is big. Thankfully that

625
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,720
one actually got nominated for Oscars, I know.

626
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Speaker 1: Okay, so before we get there, all right, so this

627
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is this is great. It's it's so interesting that you've

628
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,119
got all of the I mean, just to imagine all

629
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of these similar style movies all coming out, most of

630
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them with phenomenally big stars, and then you've got big

631
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which I mean Tom Hanks was not the Tom Hanks.

632
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Speaker 2: Yet this is what made him the Tom Hanks.

633
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: It is exactly what made him the Tom Hanks. And

634
00:29:54,759 --> 00:29:56,480
he did it. I mean, you can't give credit to

635
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,319
anybody but himself. I mean, Penny Marshall obviously did a

636
00:29:59,359 --> 00:30:01,839
great movie. But let's let me back up. I'm getting

637
00:30:02,119 --> 00:30:04,599
We're into the movie and I haven't gone the history yet.

638
00:30:04,599 --> 00:30:07,640
All right, Okay, so I gave you the history in Hivan, rightman,

639
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,640
I'll give you the history a little bit on Penny Marshall. Right, okay.

640
00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:13,599
So so Penny Marshall grew up in the Bronx, right, Okay.

641
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,119
She had an older brother and an older sister. Older

642
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,240
brother's name is Gary Marshall. You've probably heard of him.

643
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Speaker 2: Definitely heard of him.

644
00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: The sister's name was Ronnie. They both end up going

645
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,279
into television. Gary Marshall writes for like the Dick Van

646
00:30:26,359 --> 00:30:29,079
Dyke Show, a whole bunch whole slew of these other things.

647
00:30:29,079 --> 00:30:32,960
Of course, Ronnie is also in television production doing work.

648
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When Penny is born, our given name is Carol Any.

649
00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:38,559
They had changed it to Marshall at this point.

650
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Speaker 2: They you know, an americanization of an Italian name. Okay.

651
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: Well, her first name Carol was because her mother loved

652
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,880
Carol Lombard, the actress. Okay. Her middle name Penny was

653
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,559
because her older sister Ronnie thought they were getting a

654
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,960
horse and was saving her pennies to get a horse.

655
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And when they're like, we're not getting a horse, but

656
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,960
we'll name her Penny if that makes you feel better.

657
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,799
Somehow a little big sister Ronnie felt better that they

658
00:30:59,839 --> 00:31:01,720
were going to give her the middle name Penny. But

659
00:31:01,839 --> 00:31:04,279
of course she ends up going by that middle name, right.

660
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 2: Sure.

661
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Speaker 1: She grew up at thirty two thirty five Grand Concourse

662
00:31:09,519 --> 00:31:12,039
in the Bronx, Which why does that matter. I'll tell

663
00:31:12,079 --> 00:31:14,880
you why because here are some other people who grew

664
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,359
up in that building, same building, in the Bronx. Okay,

665
00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:21,640
Neil Simon, the odd couple of course, ye, Calvin Klein

666
00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:26,400
and Ralph Lauren. Wow, all of these guys and Penny

667
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,640
Marshall all grew up not at the same time, but

668
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,400
all his children grew up in thirty two to thirty

669
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five Grand Concourse in the Bronx.

670
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Speaker 2: Calvin Klein made Marty Mcli's underwear. That's fantastic, all in

671
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,799
the same building. Yeah, and so she's got she's got

672
00:31:42,839 --> 00:31:48,119
this interesting religious history. Gary was christened in the Episcopal Church, okay,

673
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:54,319
Ronnie was christened Lutheran, and Penny was the Congregational Church.

674
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,720
And basically, why you know, three siblings all with different churches.

675
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And she said, well, my mom was a piano player

676
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,680
and so basically she needed places to do recitals. And

677
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so if they had a place for her to practice

678
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,400
and give recitals, we joined the church. So Penny ends

679
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,759
up going to college, is there for two and a

680
00:32:11,799 --> 00:32:15,920
half years, but then gets pregnant with what ends up

681
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being a daughter that they named Tracy Okay, who then

682
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,240
goes on to have a bit part in a movie

683
00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:25,599
called Diehard. You know what college she went to, tell me,

684
00:32:25,839 --> 00:32:28,359
University of New Mexico from the Bronx. Yeah, you know

685
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,440
why she went there? No, because her father wanted her

686
00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:34,960
to lose her Brooklyn accent. She's like, it didn't.

687
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Speaker 1: Work, that's hilarious. So she two and a half years

688
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,240
into college, drops out to marry the father of Tracy,

689
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a guy named Michael Henry. They are only married for

690
00:32:46,039 --> 00:32:48,799
about three years. This is nineteen sixty six. They get

691
00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:52,079
a divorce. She's like teaching dance classes, not sure what

692
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,920
to do. But Gary and Ronnie are both in television.

693
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,960
They're like, hey, come out to La, we'll put you

694
00:32:57,079 --> 00:33:00,480
to work. Yeah, And so she goes out there. She

695
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:05,039
does some help for them. Her first that's a terrible,

696
00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:05,880
wonderful story.

697
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:11,119
Speaker 2: Her first acting job was a head and Shoulders commercial. Okay, yeah, okay,

698
00:33:11,359 --> 00:33:12,240
all right, good start.

699
00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: Her part was the girl who had the stringy, unattractive hair,

700
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,160
uh huh and the girl who had the beautiful bouncy hair.

701
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,160
Farah Fawcet Mercy.

702
00:33:23,559 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: Shampoo. Got a roommate. Can't you have it by your

703
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:27,640
own stuff?

704
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: Ouch. So she's in the midst of, you know, they're

705
00:33:31,759 --> 00:33:35,119
filming the commercial and they have stand ins, and she

706
00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:40,680
notices that her stand ins placard says homely girl, and

707
00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:44,519
that the other girls that Fara Fawcett's stand ins placard

708
00:33:44,599 --> 00:33:47,799
says pretty girl. And Fara Facet sees her looking kind

709
00:33:47,839 --> 00:33:50,839
of like dismal about this, and so to help the situation,

710
00:33:51,319 --> 00:33:54,480
Fara facet goes over and crosses out the word homely

711
00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:59,960
and writes plain its thank you, thanks Parah.

712
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: Know what I think you think you look adorable? Not

713
00:34:04,559 --> 00:34:07,240
just that, Hun, I think your shampoo did a terrific

714
00:34:07,359 --> 00:34:08,599
sexy number on my hair.

715
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:09,639
Speaker 1: I love it.

716
00:34:10,039 --> 00:34:12,639
Speaker 2: I'm glad. Now you could buy the head and shoulders.

717
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,840
We're out, Okay, gonna buy some money in fairness, fair

718
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,960
of face, I mean. She would go on to be

719
00:34:18,039 --> 00:34:19,400
one of the most beautiful women in the.

720
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: World, especially known for her bouncy hair, among other things.

721
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,760
So she gets other acting parts, one of which is

722
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,880
a reoccurring role of miRNA as the secretary on the

723
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,920
TV series The Odd Couple. So it all comes back

724
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,559
full circle, right yep. And then pivotal moment in television history.

725
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:47,719
Her brother casts her and Cindy Williams as two loudmouth,

726
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,519
obnoxious brewery workers to go on a date with Arthur

727
00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:57,159
Fonzarelli and Richie Cunningham. Yes, Gary Marshall is the creator

728
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,320
of the TV series Happy Days, and because when they

729
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,360
do this episode November eleventh of nineteen seventy five, if

730
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,280
you care to go back and check it out, all right,

731
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,880
it's called a date with Phonsie, and if you remember

732
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,280
every time before the before Happy Days starts, they stay

733
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,639
filmed before a live studio audience. Yes, the studio audience's

734
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:22,840
reaction to the characters named Laverne and Shirley was so

735
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,960
strong that it caused them to start their own show.

736
00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: That's fantastic. Yeah, I got something for you. You know

737
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,239
who else got their start on Happy Days? Tell me,

738
00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:33,679
mister Tom Hanks.

739
00:35:34,119 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: That's right, the karate episode.

740
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 2: That's it. I loved that.

741
00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: I love that. That's fantastic. There you go, kicks Phonsie

742
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,159
through the freaking playing glass window in the back of

743
00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:48,119
Owl's restaurant. That's it. I can't believe it.

744
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: You got it. So they've been friends a long time yep.

745
00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:54,199
Speaker 1: She Interestingly, another big show for the Networks at that

746
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,880
time was a show called Taxi. It's absolutely starring, among others,

747
00:35:58,039 --> 00:36:01,480
Tony Danza. You got Danny DeVito, Danny DeVito, Christopher Lloyd.

748
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,800
So ro back to twins. She and Danny DeVito both

749
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,880
in Taxi at the same time. There you go interesting

750
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,920
a little bit, right, So she stars obviously in Laverne

751
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,199
and Shirley. That spins off. I mean, talk about Gary

752
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,679
Marshall and a string of its. He gets Happy Days,

753
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,880
he gets Laverne and Shirley, and then the spinoff from

754
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,840
that is Morecan Mendy Robin Williams.

755
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 2: Who is at the dinner table with Ivid Ryman and Arswitzlan.

756
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,079
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I was thinking. And so she's got

757
00:36:23,199 --> 00:36:26,480
success as an actress, and then she kind of tests

758
00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:29,400
the waters by directing a few episodes of Laverne and Shirley.

759
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:34,199
She directs some other TV episodes, and then in the

760
00:36:34,679 --> 00:36:39,079
early eighties, she gets the opportunity to direct Peggy's Who

761
00:36:39,159 --> 00:36:42,559
Got Married, but she had creative differences with the writers

762
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:43,719
and she bails.

763
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know who they got to direct that one? Instead,

764
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,199
tell me Francis Ford Coppola with Nick Cage. Yep, you

765
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,920
know what she ends up doing. Instead of that, She

766
00:36:53,039 --> 00:36:55,920
has a friend named Woopy Goldberg. Yeah, who says, I'm

767
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,960
doing this movie project, Why don't you come direct me

768
00:36:58,039 --> 00:37:00,639
in this movie? Yeah, it's called Jump and jack Ah.

769
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,039
Speaker 1: Yes, that's what it's called.

770
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 2: Yes and would be. Goldberg eventually becomes a big star,

771
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,559
and this is kind of a stepping point for her.

772
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: It's stepping point for both of them. And so this

773
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,519
is Jumping Jack. Flash was Penny Marshall's first movie, her

774
00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:17,400
second movie, Big Big. Okay, so this is the first

775
00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:20,760
screenplay for a couple of people. Okay, the two writers

776
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,480
on this movie. The writers are number one. Gary Ross

777
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,039
ends up being neighbors to a woman that you might

778
00:37:27,079 --> 00:37:30,199
have heard of. Her name is ann Spielberg and Spielberg.

779
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,800
She has a very famous father. His name is Arnold Spielberg.

780
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,400
He was an electrical engineer for Ge. He invented several

781
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,480
very important computer things.

782
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

783
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,159
Speaker 1: One of which, being a restaurant guy like you are,

784
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,159
you probably know, is the computer controlled point of sale. Yeah, folks,

785
00:37:47,199 --> 00:37:49,360
if you know you're in a restaurant and they're bringing

786
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,000
you up on a computer, that is the responsibility of

787
00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:56,079
Arnold Spielberg and Spielberg's dad. So that's her famous relative

788
00:37:56,119 --> 00:37:58,320
that we can talk about is that it is well

789
00:37:58,639 --> 00:38:00,760
and here's another interesting story. Or he went over to

790
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,199
Moscow at some point and it just so happened that

791
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,360
this was right when the powers thing was going on

792
00:38:06,519 --> 00:38:08,840
with the B fifty two, and so like he gets

793
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,920
pulled up, you know, the Russian guy knows he's American,

794
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,039
and he gets pulled up and he kind of yells

795
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:15,639
at him about this is what your country is doing

796
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,199
to us and all this other stuff, and that actually

797
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,039
becomes the subject of a movie called Bridge of Spies,

798
00:38:21,559 --> 00:38:23,199
which stars.

799
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,039
Speaker 2: Tom Hanks and is directed by who is the director

800
00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:30,079
on that one? That would be Steven Spielberg.

801
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,199
Speaker 1: Oh so is he related to Anne and Arnold?

802
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,159
Speaker 2: That's her brother. There you go, Steven Spielberg. And in fact,

803
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,559
think with me in this alternate world, uh huh, where

804
00:38:39,679 --> 00:38:42,840
Anne Spielberg writes a screenplay, maybe she gives it to

805
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,159
her brother Steven, who decides, you know what, I think,

806
00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:48,360
I like this story. I'm going to make this movie

807
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,599
with Harrison Ford as Josh. Right. That was actually on

808
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:53,719
the table at one point.

809
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: That was probably the first thing and what would have

810
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,559
seemed like the most likely thing at the point at

811
00:38:58,599 --> 00:39:00,960
that point, right, absolutely, And you asked me, You're like,

812
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,000
what happens if this movie? Is it going to be

813
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,960
as good if it's directed by Steven Spielberg and Harrison Ford?

814
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,840
And I said absolutely not, Absolutely not. I think Spielberg

815
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,079
would have pulled it off, but it wouldn't have been right.

816
00:39:12,159 --> 00:39:15,000
It would have been to Hollywood. And I think that

817
00:39:15,079 --> 00:39:18,559
Harrison Ford would have screwed it up. He's an old

818
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,320
grumpy codger. He came out of the womb, an old

819
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,039
grumpy coder with a stubble on his face. I mean,

820
00:39:25,079 --> 00:39:28,440
there's just he cannot play childlike sweet, which is what

821
00:39:28,639 --> 00:39:30,400
you need for this part in this movie.

822
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,199
Speaker 2: I agree with you. Harrison Ford has never been a kid. No,

823
00:39:33,519 --> 00:39:37,360
So this project bounced around between famous directors, right and

824
00:39:37,679 --> 00:39:40,559
Steven Spielberg. So he had a son named Max at

825
00:39:40,599 --> 00:39:43,199
the time, needed a bail. Plus he really didn't want

826
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,039
to steal his sister's thunder on this deal. Yeah, so

827
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:51,280
it was offered to Frank Oz, Richard Donner, w Amy Heckerling,

828
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:57,920
John Hughes, what yeah, wow, Ivan Reitman shut up. Yeah, yeah,

829
00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:00,559
that's great and lands with Marshall.

830
00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: How does that happen?

831
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,639
Speaker 2: Well, I guess when everybody else says no, you end

832
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,119
up with who's left by the way.

833
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: Just a side note, Yeah, this is the first movie

834
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,519
directed by a woman to earn more than one hundred

835
00:40:10,519 --> 00:40:11,639
million dollars one.

836
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 2: It's incredible. It's groundbreaking.

837
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I told you. I can remember her acceptance speech

838
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,320
at the Oscars where she was like, well, there were

839
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,199
a whole bunch of these movies. I don't know why

840
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,679
this one's better, but thanks.

841
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: She's so funny, she's hilarious.

842
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:29,159
Speaker 3: You know.

843
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: Tom Hanks says, if you want to imitate Penny Marshall,

844
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,639
just clinched her tooth together and ACTI pist all the time.

845
00:40:37,159 --> 00:40:40,719
So Penny Marshall got the script. No studio wanted to

846
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,880
do this movie, right, Here's what jump started the project. Yeah,

847
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,679
Robert de Niro was looking for a commercial project, okay,

848
00:40:48,159 --> 00:40:50,440
and he said, hey, I'll do this movie. And so

849
00:40:50,599 --> 00:40:53,079
when Robert de Niro at that time says I want

850
00:40:53,119 --> 00:40:56,960
to do something cute and funny and mainstream, They're like, okay, yeah,

851
00:40:57,039 --> 00:40:59,000
mister DeNiro, you want to do this, we'll green light it,

852
00:40:59,079 --> 00:41:01,000
we'll get a going. And he signed on for like

853
00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:03,400
two weeks later says, you know what, this is not working.

854
00:41:03,519 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: Doesn't feel right now.

855
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 2: Now.

856
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: What's interesting is he would go on to do A

857
00:41:08,199 --> 00:41:11,320
Young Boy inside of an Old Man's Body with Annie

858
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,639
Marshall just a couple years later when they do Awakenings.

859
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,480
By the way, go check out the film by episode

860
00:41:17,559 --> 00:41:20,440
on Awakenings. It's fantastic, But in this one, it's more

861
00:41:20,519 --> 00:41:23,079
it's a true story and it's a kid who went

862
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,559
comatose basically as a ten or eleven year old and

863
00:41:26,639 --> 00:41:28,519
then wakes up in an old man's body, an old

864
00:41:28,559 --> 00:41:28,960
man's body.

865
00:41:29,039 --> 00:41:31,519
Speaker 2: Y that's exactly right. By the way I heard, I

866
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,639
wasn't able to verify this young Josh and Billy. Yep,

867
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,880
they had crisscrossed them, like they had hired Billy to

868
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,159
play young Robert de Niro, and when he dropped out

869
00:41:41,159 --> 00:41:43,599
of the project and Tom Hanks came aboard, Yeah, they

870
00:41:43,679 --> 00:41:44,800
flip flopped those kids.

871
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: Those kids. Let me just say this, those kids are

872
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,880
a key element to this movie, right, Yeah. I mean

873
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:55,079
Tom Hanks doesn't appear until the movie's been going on

874
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,559
for maybe it's ten minutes before he shows up, right,

875
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,719
But in the first seven minutes you fall in love

876
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:01,559
with Josh Paskins.

877
00:42:01,679 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, so important to love the kid.

878
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you the credits are going by, like

879
00:42:06,119 --> 00:42:09,039
you're seeing directed by, edited by, written by, all of

880
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:13,599
these things going by, as Josh and Billy are having

881
00:42:13,639 --> 00:42:15,480
a great time and Josh is living the life of

882
00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:18,559
a kid that every single adult watching the movie is

883
00:42:18,639 --> 00:42:21,079
going Yeah, I remember that. I remember what that was

884
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,760
like being in love with the blonde, pretty girl and

885
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,639
wondering why she has such a dweeby brother, you know,

886
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,880
just getting all of those emotions whenever you see her,

887
00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:34,320
and then the mortification that comes along with your dad

888
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,920
and an alligator hat and your mom taking pictures at

889
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:41,679
the fair waving right right, Josh, and then that doubled

890
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,639
by the fact that you can't get on the ride

891
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,159
because you're too small.

892
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,679
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about that for just a second. Okay, Right,

893
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,800
So this is a fair Kernival type of atmosphere, which

894
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:56,360
I loved at that age, right, the mobile roller coasters

895
00:42:56,559 --> 00:42:58,800
that would show up, and the tilted worlds and the

896
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,639
funny stuff and the carneies that would run this thing.

897
00:43:02,199 --> 00:43:04,440
It was all very sketch, but it was super fun

898
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,840
as a kid at that age. Okay, Yeah, One of

899
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,840
the least believable parts of Big is the fact that

900
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,280
this guy would not let Josh ride this roller coaster

901
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,079
because he was not tall enough. Those carnies could have

902
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:17,800
cared less what you did.

903
00:43:18,159 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, I don't know. I've had some kids denied

904
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,639
because they were too short and we're like, come on,

905
00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:27,280
she's like three milimeters there, Like, I'm sorry, it's rules,

906
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,760
it's safety. We won't do it. So I felt his pain.

907
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,400
I identified with him because I was his same age

908
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,119
and I wasn't short, but I understood being kind of

909
00:43:37,639 --> 00:43:41,159
in love with the older at that age frequently taller

910
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:41,840
young girl.

911
00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:44,519
Speaker 2: And she turns to him, she invites him in line

912
00:43:44,559 --> 00:43:47,159
with her. Yeah, He's like, whoo, here we go. And

913
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,800
then she's like, hey, here's my boyfriend. He drives, He

914
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,719
drives like that is all you need right there?

915
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 3: Right? Ah?

916
00:43:54,599 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: Yes, So those two kids playing in those parts for

917
00:43:58,559 --> 00:44:00,599
that first seven and a half half minutes of the

918
00:44:00,639 --> 00:44:05,000
movie is key, and they delivered it so perfect, so

919
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,800
well done. Tom Hanks gets tons of credit, but those

920
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,840
kids definitely deserve credit for this too.

921
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. Just on a little side note, do you

922
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,920
know that this is one of only three movies that

923
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,360
drop the F bomb and still maintain their PG rating.

924
00:44:18,559 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: I had forgotten about that.

925
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 2: Who you think you are?

926
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:23,599
Speaker 3: Hurt? They are?

927
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 2: Josh Baskin? Remember you broke your arm on my roof

928
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,559
in my basement with Robert? Did look get it to you?

929
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:31,559
This is important?

930
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,039
Speaker 1: This is it's it's Moscow that drops the line, right

931
00:44:35,079 --> 00:44:36,159
he does, Billy.

932
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 2: Who the F do you think you are?

933
00:44:37,639 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

934
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,199
Speaker 2: And it's a super important moment in the movie.

935
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. And now, by the way, I'm three months older

936
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,920
than you. Ale. Yeah, these are all things that I

937
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,800
didn't notice as a kid, But then when I'm watching

938
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,280
it with my own kids, I'm like, what.

939
00:44:49,559 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 2: There are three movies rated PG says the F word Spaceballs,

940
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,800
which we covered, Yeah, Flashback Spaceballs. Yeah, caddye Scheck too,

941
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,760
which is one of the worst movies of all time.

942
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:01,880
It came out in summer of nineteen eighty eight.

943
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:02,119
Speaker 1: Yep.

944
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,039
Speaker 2: And then Beatle Juice. Of course we ready to talk

945
00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:07,840
cast Let's do it, Okay. So the characters in Twins,

946
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,360
you have Julius Benedict and you have his brother Vincent.

947
00:45:11,639 --> 00:45:15,559
Speaker 1: My name is Julius, and I'm your twin brother. Oh.

948
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,559
Speaker 2: Obviously, the moment I sat down, I thought I was

949
00:45:18,639 --> 00:45:19,559
looking into a mirror.

950
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,679
Speaker 1: Let's let me just stop you right there, because you

951
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,639
sent me this little golden nugget early on in our research,

952
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,119
and my mind was frigging blown, and I'm gonna steal

953
00:45:30,159 --> 00:45:31,679
it from you. I'm just gonna steal it. Hey, I

954
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:32,159
don't care.

955
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:33,039
Speaker 2: I have given it to you.

956
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: This is this is Jason's gold that I am sharing

957
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,239
with reci you right. So the characters' names in this

958
00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:44,480
are Julius and Vincent, Jules and Vincent. If you will

959
00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:46,920
uh huh. And if those two names, said like that

960
00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:50,559
don't spring a little trigger in your brain, then you

961
00:45:50,679 --> 00:45:53,599
are not a big enough Tarantino fan, because that is

962
00:45:53,679 --> 00:45:57,400
the name of John Travolta and Samuel L. Jackson's characters

963
00:45:57,599 --> 00:45:58,320
in pulp Fiction.

964
00:45:58,599 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: That's right.

965
00:45:59,079 --> 00:46:01,079
Speaker 1: I love sharing this sorry with my friends. I've done

966
00:46:01,079 --> 00:46:04,400
it multiple times since you told me, right, And I'm like, so,

967
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,480
do we just think that's a coincidence? No, because guess

968
00:46:08,519 --> 00:46:11,880
who one of the producers of Pulp Fiction was, mister

969
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:16,320
Danny freaking de Vito. This was an homage to his

970
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,639
art and his partner's part in Twins. What the heck?

971
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,519
Speaker 2: How about that? Spiked the football gold nugget right there?

972
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 3: Love it?

973
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:25,599
Speaker 1: Love it?

974
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:31,159
Speaker 2: So Jules Benedict played by Arnold Schwitzenegger. He is Vincent's brother.

975
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,440
Which is the one joke that this movie tells the

976
00:46:34,639 --> 00:46:36,239
entire hour and forty five minutes.

977
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,199
Speaker 1: You said that, I think there's two jokes. The first

978
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:43,039
joke is their opposites and their twins. The second joke

979
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,519
is Arnold Schwarzenegger this big bulking guy is a naive

980
00:46:47,679 --> 00:46:49,559
virgin walking around in LA.

981
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,559
Speaker 2: That's fair, okay, cool? All right, So we talked about

982
00:46:52,599 --> 00:46:57,719
how they were friends. Danny Veto, they called him up. Also, conveniently, Ivan, rightman,

983
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,559
Arnold Schwitzenegger, and Dan de Vito are all presented by

984
00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:02,960
the same teleent agency that helps, which makes it a

985
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,840
lot easier. Right, It's called packaging. So they called him up.

986
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,480
They all signed that magical napkin, so that was a

987
00:47:08,639 --> 00:47:13,519
done deal, rightman, Schwarzeneggerdavito Ry. So before we go any further,

988
00:47:13,559 --> 00:47:15,920
I want to tell you that Danny DeVito and arms

989
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:21,119
Swarzenegger were also offered Suburban Commando as a possible comedy.

990
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,079
So what happened was they got to choose which one

991
00:47:24,119 --> 00:47:27,000
they wanted and the other one would go to Hulk

992
00:47:27,039 --> 00:47:30,679
Cogan and Christopher Lloyd. Okay, and so DeVito and Schwarzenegger

993
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,480
selected twins. Hulk Cogan and Christopher Lloyd got Suburban Commando,

994
00:47:34,679 --> 00:47:36,519
but it could have easily been the other way.

995
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,079
Speaker 1: Wow, are we going to be covering Suburban command our future?

996
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,760
Speaker 2: To cover that one? Yeah, it just depends on what

997
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,480
you if you are in love without one, okay. So

998
00:47:47,639 --> 00:47:51,159
let's talk about Marty Mason and Linda Mason. Linda Mason

999
00:47:51,199 --> 00:47:52,599
played by Chloe Webb.

1000
00:47:53,039 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: Yep. If you've seen Sid and Nancy with Gary Oldman

1001
00:47:57,079 --> 00:47:59,880
as Sid Vicious and girlfriend Nancy, she's Nancy.

1002
00:48:00,039 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 2: She did a great job. She's lovable.

1003
00:48:02,159 --> 00:48:05,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's cute. Yeah, she's yes, she is.

1004
00:48:06,559 --> 00:48:09,519
Speaker 2: She's a homely girl, she's yeah, she's.

1005
00:48:09,159 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: Well built, she is put together. She is well built,

1006
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,079
but has a more plain girl face.

1007
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 2: Yes.

1008
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1009
00:48:16,039 --> 00:48:19,519
Speaker 2: And then you have her sister, Marnie Mason, played by

1010
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,599
eighties heart throb Kelly Preston.

1011
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: I bagged you some cookies, cookies, I guess I don't

1012
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,719
not at all. I'm really looking forward to tossing Ben now.

1013
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,199
Kelly Preston had been acting for a little while, but

1014
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,639
hadn't been in a whole lot of stuff before this.

1015
00:48:36,039 --> 00:48:38,280
One of the movies that she was in you mentioned

1016
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,239
already was called Secret Admirer, not super well known.

1017
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: Love it one of my all time favorites.

1018
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,039
Speaker 1: Another one was the movie Mischief Mischief, and then she

1019
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,679
was also in Space Case Camp. Yeah, I can't forget

1020
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,079
that that. By the way. First a film by episode

1021
00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:54,800
that I listened to I think was Space Camp eighty six.

1022
00:48:55,079 --> 00:48:57,880
There you go, yep, and then she gets cast in Twins.

1023
00:48:58,559 --> 00:49:00,800
When we were texting back and forth, you sent me

1024
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,599
this Kelly Preston a little greater than sign Elizabeth Perkins,

1025
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:10,119
and my response was, Kelly Preston greater than everyone, smoking hot,

1026
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:14,199
great actress, believable. I don't know why she didn't do more, honestly,

1027
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,360
other than that she hooked up with John Travolta and

1028
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,679
he was the star of All Stars at that time.

1029
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 2: And we're not discrediting Elizabeth Perkins because we think she's

1030
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,800
really really pretty for a big.

1031
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, she and they, I mean they didn't make her

1032
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,440
the sex kitten in Big like they did with Kelly

1033
00:49:31,519 --> 00:49:34,280
Preston in Twins, right. I mean, she was supposed to

1034
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,679
be business woman like, She's got her hair pulled back

1035
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:42,400
in a bun. She's wearing ridiculous shoulder padded pantsuits. She's

1036
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,639
not so supposed to be ultra sexy. She's supposed to

1037
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,599
be the girl in the office who's gets around a little.

1038
00:49:48,679 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, she sleeps her way at the top is what

1039
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:51,000
she does.

1040
00:49:51,079 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 1: So before she gets into mischief, if you will. She

1041
00:49:55,119 --> 00:49:59,599
auditioned and was top contender for the movie Blue Lagoon. Yeah,

1042
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:02,199
lost out to Brooks Shields, who is younger than her.

1043
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,320
By the way, can you imagine Kelly Preston, let's all

1044
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:11,079
take a moment. Okay, all right, So Kelly Preston, I

1045
00:50:11,199 --> 00:50:12,679
just got to throw this out there. She dated a

1046
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,400
few folks before she married John Travolta.

1047
00:50:15,559 --> 00:50:16,159
Speaker 2: He has know this.

1048
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:17,280
Speaker 1: You know the list of folks.

1049
00:50:17,559 --> 00:50:19,159
Speaker 2: Well, I know one of them? Is it Charlie she

1050
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:19,840
Charlie Sheen.

1051
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,599
Speaker 1: Apparently he shot her in the arm.

1052
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, That's what happens when

1053
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:25,159
you date crazy people.

1054
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,159
Speaker 1: How do we not know more about that story?

1055
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 2: We need to dig into that one.

1056
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: That one is nuts.

1057
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,119
Speaker 2: You also have a young David Caruso in Twins. Yep,

1058
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:38,960
he's Dan DeVito's buddy Al that gives him cars to steal.

1059
00:50:39,159 --> 00:50:42,039
He runs that parking garage. David Cruso goes on to

1060
00:50:42,119 --> 00:50:47,320
do CSI. Yep. Yeah, so David Caruso is Al Greco.

1061
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,840
You have Trey Wilson as beat Root.

1062
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: Would you buy furniture from a place called Unpainted hough Ies.

1063
00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 2: We love Trey Wilson man. So he plays the same

1064
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,559
character in every movie. Boulder hum Raised in Arizona beat Root.

1065
00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:01,880
All right, Uh, just another thing I want to point out.

1066
00:51:02,039 --> 00:51:06,719
You have Heather Graham playing an uncredited Marianne Benedict.

1067
00:51:06,519 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: Talk about smoking hot girls.

1068
00:51:08,639 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 2: Wow, this is right before she kind of takes off.

1069
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean her her kind of step out was

1070
00:51:13,559 --> 00:51:15,920
playing Mercedes on License to Drive.

1071
00:51:16,119 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 2: In eighty nine next year.

1072
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:18,079
Speaker 1: Yep.

1073
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 2: And then one other thing I want to point out

1074
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:24,360
real quickly, playing Mother Superior is Francis Bay, who was

1075
00:51:24,679 --> 00:51:26,840
the Grandma and Happy Gilmore exactly.

1076
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,119
Speaker 1: Be sure and go check out our Happy Gilmore versus

1077
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:30,320
Caddyshack episode.

1078
00:51:31,039 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 2: And I just did an episode with Jeff Johnson on

1079
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,960
his Patreon on the movie Nomads, which was John mcnernan's

1080
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,320
first movie with Pierce President. And Francis Bay played a

1081
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:41,320
nun in that movie.

1082
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 1: So that's interesting there you go.

1083
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's all I got on cast for Twins.

1084
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,559
All right, let's flip over and do the cast for Big.

1085
00:51:49,119 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 3: I'm not sure we should do this yet.

1086
00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 2: Through what Well, I mean, I like you and.

1087
00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:01,159
Speaker 1: I want to spend the night with you. Do you

1088
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:01,880
mean sleepover?

1089
00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 3: Well?

1090
00:52:04,159 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, but I get to be on top fantastic. Okay.

1091
00:52:09,079 --> 00:52:11,239
So we talked about how Penny Marshall ended up getting

1092
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,599
the job. Right, Here's the list of names that they

1093
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,199
thought about for Josh.

1094
00:52:15,679 --> 00:52:17,119
Speaker 1: Okay, big Josh, Big Josh.

1095
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,199
Speaker 2: Right, So we already talked about Harrison Ford. You have

1096
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,480
the names Bill Murray, Judge Reinhold, Michael Keaton, Kevin Costner,

1097
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,840
Robin Williams, who would later go play a boy in

1098
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,440
a man's body in Jack with francyport Coppola.

1099
00:52:30,639 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just say, Judge Reinhold, that means that he

1100
00:52:34,159 --> 00:52:38,480
picked what vice versa? Can you imagine him just kicking himself?

1101
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:39,119
Speaker 2: I don't.

1102
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: I think they're on one, because I mean he could

1103
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,400
play he can pull off suite of course. Yeah, childlike

1104
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:45,039
has that.

1105
00:52:45,199 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Michael Keaton would be great in this role.

1106
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:48,119
Speaker 1: Yep.

1107
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:53,039
Speaker 2: John Travolta really wanted this part. Considered box office poison

1108
00:52:53,519 --> 00:52:54,159
at this time.

1109
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is look who's talking to time?

1110
00:52:56,559 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1111
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,119
Speaker 1: Ouch right, yep.

1112
00:52:58,599 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 2: Steve Guttenberg could have easily done this. I think. Wow,

1113
00:53:02,559 --> 00:53:05,760
Dennis Quaid wanted it, but he did Everybody's All American instead.

1114
00:53:06,199 --> 00:53:10,079
Speaker 1: Okay, Matthew Modine, Now I heard that Sean Penn was

1115
00:53:10,159 --> 00:53:12,199
considered for this. Yeah, they thought he was too young

1116
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,440
to play the adult, right, ok And then they considered

1117
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:15,079
Gary Busey.

1118
00:53:15,599 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they didn't think he could play the adult.

1119
00:53:19,639 --> 00:53:20,159
How about that?

1120
00:53:20,679 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1121
00:53:21,079 --> 00:53:26,039
Speaker 2: All right? Jeff Bridges Andy Garcia. So Andy Garcia was considered,

1122
00:53:26,159 --> 00:53:28,639
but the studio executives did not want to pay eighteen

1123
00:53:28,679 --> 00:53:30,519
million dollars to see him grow up to be a

1124
00:53:30,599 --> 00:53:33,880
Puerto Rican. That's dude.

1125
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,599
Speaker 1: That is terrible, dude, that is there? Wait a minute.

1126
00:53:36,639 --> 00:53:37,800
Andy Garcia is from Cuba.

1127
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,679
Speaker 2: He's Cuban. Yeah, screw you guys up from Cuba.

1128
00:53:42,559 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. That's that is awful, so awful.

1129
00:53:47,079 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 2: How about that. That's kind of an interesting list right there.

1130
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,719
All right, Okay, before they ultimately settled on Tom Hanks.

1131
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,639
Do you know who turned down the role of Josh Baskin? No,

1132
00:53:56,159 --> 00:53:59,880
Tom Hanks? What, he turned it down initially and then

1133
00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:01,239
it came back to him.

1134
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 3: Wow.

1135
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,639
Speaker 2: So let's just let's talk about Tom Hanks for just

1136
00:54:04,679 --> 00:54:05,000
a minute.

1137
00:54:05,039 --> 00:54:08,679
Speaker 1: Okay, yep. So this is nineteen eighty eight, right, They're

1138
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,840
probably making these decisions in late eighty seven, right, yep.

1139
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,679
And so at that time, the only thing besides like

1140
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,360
TV episodes and mazes and monsters. If you remember that one.

1141
00:54:19,519 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 2: Wow.

1142
00:54:20,039 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 1: He'd been in Bosom Buddies, which, of course I loved

1143
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:23,400
Bosom Buddies.

1144
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:24,039
Speaker 2: You're a great show.

1145
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: But he comes into the movies with splash. Yep, loved it.

1146
00:54:28,599 --> 00:54:29,119
Speaker 2: Great movie.

1147
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:30,639
Speaker 1: Then does Bachelor Party.

1148
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 2: Awesome, hilarious, money so good in.

1149
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: It, but not a huge success. Run Anyone does The

1150
00:54:37,559 --> 00:54:46,159
Man with One Red Shoe, so volunteers loser. Then he

1151
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,320
does The Money Pit, which is hilarious, great movie, but

1152
00:54:49,519 --> 00:54:52,159
not super successful. Sure I love The Money Pit, by

1153
00:54:52,199 --> 00:54:55,199
the way. Then he does nothing in common.

1154
00:54:55,360 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 2: With Jackie Gleason, which again is it's okay. And then

1155
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,440
Dragnet that would with.

1156
00:55:04,639 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: Dan Akroy and Akro should be a phenomenal success, and

1157
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,719
it's not right. It is not so at that point

1158
00:55:12,039 --> 00:55:13,400
he's not the IT actor.

1159
00:55:13,519 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 2: That's right.

1160
00:55:14,159 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: He is not the I mean, I understand why they

1161
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,880
went through fourteen guys, including a Cuban they thought was

1162
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:24,480
a Puerto Rican before they land on Tom Hanks. But

1163
00:55:24,639 --> 00:55:27,519
it is the most important decision they made.

1164
00:55:27,679 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 3: Yep.

1165
00:55:28,119 --> 00:55:28,679
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

1166
00:55:29,039 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 1: By the way, he did Punchline, he did Punchline before

1167
00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:35,480
it came out after because of the editing process. But

1168
00:55:35,639 --> 00:55:39,760
Punchline what came out that same year obviously not as successful,

1169
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:40,760
but and not as.

1170
00:55:40,679 --> 00:55:44,079
Speaker 2: Good, right, and not as good by the way, when

1171
00:55:44,159 --> 00:55:46,639
they had Robert de Niro for this role, he wanted

1172
00:55:46,679 --> 00:55:48,679
six million dollars, which was part of the problem, part

1173
00:55:48,679 --> 00:55:50,440
of the reason why he left the project. They got

1174
00:55:50,519 --> 00:55:53,280
Tom Hanks for two and it made over one hundred

1175
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,760
million dollars, completely worth the investment in Tom Hanks.

1176
00:55:56,559 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: At the time.

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00:55:57,159 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So let's talk about the role of

1178
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,840
Susan played by a. Sabeth Perkins. Okay, we both agree

1179
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,000
she does a great job in this movie. Yeah, and

1180
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:08,119
she looks beautiful today, very elegant woman, plays the business

1181
00:56:08,199 --> 00:56:12,000
woman part, and we believe that she's not afraid to

1182
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,159
lay on her back a little bit to get to

1183
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,559
the top. They offered this role to Meg Tilly. Didn't

1184
00:56:17,599 --> 00:56:19,360
your sister in law hang out with.

1185
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,199
Speaker 1: Meg Tilly a little bit roommate for a few weeks?

1186
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, how about that? Yeah, so family friend Meg Tilly.

1187
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,679
Then you also had Deborah Winger. Ye, Deborah Winger was

1188
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,599
like a shoe in like she was, she had it. Yeah,

1189
00:56:32,079 --> 00:56:34,920
and then they had trouble casting Josh. Then Deborah Winger

1190
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,199
went to Penny Marshall and said, why don't you switch

1191
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,960
the parts and make the female one the big ones,

1192
00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:42,800
you know, And Penny Marshall's like no, and then Debra

1193
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,880
Winger got her feelings her and then she's like, forget this,

1194
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:45,679
I'm out of here.

1195
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 1: Which is interesting because I mentioned that Penny Marshall was

1196
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,719
supposed to direct Peggy Sue got married. Yeah, Debora Winger

1197
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,719
was the one who was supposed to play Kathleen Turner.

1198
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:56,559
Speaker 2: Oh wow. Okay.

1199
00:56:56,639 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: When Penny Marshall had the falling out with the writers

1200
00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:03,519
up her, Winger left in loyalty to Penny Marshall. So

1201
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:05,920
I can see how at that moment when she's like,

1202
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,519
why don't you make Meet the Star And Penny Marshall's like, nah,

1203
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,880
right that, yeah that might have Yeah, you have that

1204
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:12,360
one badly.

1205
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,119
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, Andy thoughts on Susan.

1206
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 1: Okay, but I get to be on top.

1207
00:57:19,519 --> 00:57:22,719
Speaker 2: We both talked. So there's some funny parts in Big

1208
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,320
that I texted you, you know, and you're talking the

1209
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,679
other day. The part when she bends over to pick

1210
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,440
up the papers he had knocked Robert Los's character on

1211
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,000
the ground. Tom Hanks has been over to pick up

1212
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,800
the papers she's been over, and her blouse opens a

1213
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:36,519
little bit.

1214
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: And see her flowers.

1215
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 2: There's some lacey underlings underneath.

1216
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: And Tom Hanks is like, yeah, looking at it, looking away, looking,

1217
00:57:46,519 --> 00:57:49,400
pulling his head away, and his eyes are darting back down. Yeah,

1218
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,519
just like a twelve year old boy would be doing.

1219
00:57:51,719 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Super funny. And then eventually later on the movie,

1220
00:57:55,079 --> 00:57:59,239
when they actually sleep together, right Susan and Josh, she

1221
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,400
introduces you know, she opens his eyes to this wonderful world,

1222
00:58:03,159 --> 00:58:07,840
and she takes her shirt off, her bras on. She

1223
00:58:08,039 --> 00:58:10,400
goes to hit the light switch to turn off the lights,

1224
00:58:11,079 --> 00:58:14,000
and him, staring at her chest, reaches back and turns

1225
00:58:14,039 --> 00:58:17,119
the light back on. Yes, and she giggles and smiles.

1226
00:58:17,239 --> 00:58:19,159
It's really a kind of an endaring moment.

1227
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: It is a sweet moment, and in a moment that

1228
00:58:21,679 --> 00:58:23,639
as a twelve year old at the time and have

1229
00:58:23,679 --> 00:58:26,360
been like, yeah, he turned the lights off for I've

1230
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,599
never seen this before, my light exactly. Yeah.

1231
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:32,199
Speaker 2: So let's talk about mister McMillan played by Robert Loja.

1232
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:33,679
Speaker 1: Robert Loja baby.

1233
00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 2: Right, they call him Mac in the movie. I think

1234
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:36,159
that's kind of cute.

1235
00:58:36,199 --> 00:58:36,519
Speaker 3: I love it.

1236
00:58:36,679 --> 00:58:40,119
Speaker 2: That character was based on Fao Schwartz, CEO Peter Harris.

1237
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:41,039
Speaker 1: Cool.

1238
00:58:41,199 --> 00:58:43,599
Speaker 2: Okay. Now, then for the role of Paul played by

1239
00:58:43,679 --> 00:58:47,000
John Hurd, who's the dad and Home Alone, who's a

1240
00:58:47,039 --> 00:58:49,960
sweet guy in Home Alone. Yeah, he's a kid in this. Yeah.

1241
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: I saw this first.

1242
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 2: So this he was just I was like, I don't

1243
00:58:54,239 --> 00:58:55,840
give you the ball, Yeah, give you the ball. I

1244
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:56,400
did not hit it.

1245
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: It was over the line.

1246
00:58:57,639 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.

1247
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1248
00:59:02,119 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 2: So that they actually looked at Charles Rocket to do that.

1249
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,079
He plays the bad guy in Dumb and Dumber.

1250
00:59:08,679 --> 00:59:12,679
Speaker 1: Oh, oh, okay, I got you. Yeah, I can see that. Yeah.

1251
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,199
Speaker 2: And they also talked to John Lithgow about playing this role,

1252
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,760
and we talked about him when we did our Footloose episode.

1253
00:59:20,239 --> 00:59:24,039
He was the Reverend Shaw Moore in Footloose. And then

1254
00:59:24,039 --> 00:59:27,880
we talked already about Jared Ruskin who played Billy, and

1255
00:59:28,039 --> 00:59:30,679
David Moscow who played Young Josh. So let's talk about

1256
00:59:30,679 --> 00:59:34,360
the boys for just a second. David Moscow plays Young Josh. Okay,

1257
00:59:34,639 --> 00:59:35,280
super job.

1258
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:35,679
Speaker 1: Yep.

1259
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 2: They actually had to dye his hair and had to

1260
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,760
wear contacts to make him look more like Tom Anks.

1261
00:59:40,079 --> 00:59:41,159
Speaker 1: Oh really okay yep.

1262
00:59:41,719 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 2: And then Jared Rushton played Billy. Right, They actually did

1263
00:59:47,079 --> 00:59:49,559
some really cool stuff. We'll talk about that in production.

1264
00:59:50,159 --> 00:59:53,440
But these two boys and Tom Hanks would hang out

1265
00:59:53,719 --> 00:59:55,639
and Penny Marshall would kind of take notes on how

1266
00:59:55,679 --> 00:59:58,159
they interacted and incorporated into the movie. We'll talk more

1267
00:59:58,199 --> 01:00:00,519
about that here and just on the next episode. Yeah,

1268
01:00:01,239 --> 01:00:04,039
but the one lady I really want to mention is

1269
01:00:04,119 --> 01:00:06,800
Mercedes Rule. Okay, she plays Josh's mom.

1270
01:00:07,159 --> 01:00:11,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's she's like another Penny Marshall. Okay, Italian

1271
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,800
has that kind of Bronxi accent.

1272
01:00:14,159 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 2: Josh, bring your sister down here. Yeah, yeah, she plays

1273
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:22,159
She's in Fraser. She plays Fraser's girlfriend. She plays dirty girl.

1274
01:00:23,039 --> 01:00:24,920
There's a great episode where he's a bad boy and

1275
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,199
she's dirty girl. Anyway, my wife and I think that

1276
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,559
episode is super funny. She's dirty girl.

1277
01:00:29,639 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 1: You can't leave out John Lovetts, John Levittz.

1278
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 2: His co workers, kind of sleezy co worker who makes

1279
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,400
sure to point out the See that girl over there,

1280
01:00:40,639 --> 01:00:43,000
she'll be wrapping her legs around you and squeezing you

1281
01:00:43,079 --> 01:00:44,920
to death. Okay, I'll stay away.

1282
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,039
Speaker 1: From her and stay away from her.

1283
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that girl over there in the red.

1284
01:00:51,159 --> 01:00:52,639
Speaker 1: Say hi to her and she's yours.

1285
01:00:54,119 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 2: She'll wrap her legs around, so you'll begging for mercy. Well,

1286
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,679
I'll stay away from her. Then, John Love, it's like

1287
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,199
thought this was going straight to DVD, like I thought

1288
01:01:05,239 --> 01:01:07,000
it was a tank. Thought it was a crappy movie.

1289
01:01:07,079 --> 01:01:09,320
So he was sick one day and he thought, I

1290
01:01:09,519 --> 01:01:10,920
just don't know if I'm ever going to go back

1291
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,559
to work. And Penny Marshall's like, get your butt up here,

1292
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,840
so he did and finished it and it turns out

1293
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:17,679
to be this wonderful big hit.

1294
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,719
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, So that does it for part one of

1295
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:25,400
our Big Twins episodes. Join us next week for part

1296
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,159
two will where we will talk about production. We will

1297
01:01:28,199 --> 01:01:31,719
talk about composers and music, and we will talk about

1298
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:35,719
how these movies were received and importantly, why we're comparing

1299
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,679
these two movies. I mean, there's the similarity that might

1300
01:01:38,719 --> 01:01:41,320
be obvious to some, but there's more that you might

1301
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,039
not know about. Be sure and come back next week.

1302
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 3: So that you will hear that.

1303
01:01:45,079 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 2: I've got a big question for you for you to

1304
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,400
think about between now and then. Okay, if you were Josh, yeah,

1305
01:01:51,079 --> 01:01:52,440
would you choose to stay big?

1306
01:01:52,719 --> 01:01:55,519
Speaker 1: Would you go back? You have an answer to that question,

1307
01:01:55,719 --> 01:01:58,360
all right, we'll talk about it next week, See you guys.

1308
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:03,159
Then rang in the dogt