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<v Speaker 1>Wait, hell, look, challenge for an issue? Then I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>it that that's going to be a battle. Looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to it, looking forward to watching that Michigan will take

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<v Speaker 1>on Washington this week. What does m miss you need

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<v Speaker 1>to do to at least hang with Oregon?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I can tell you what they need to not do,

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<v Speaker 2>and we all know what that is. Right. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>turn the ball over. And you could say that about

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<v Speaker 2>any football game, but this team in particular. Too many turnovers. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what you could do is you could say take

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<v Speaker 1>care of the ball. Yeah, you know how you always

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<v Speaker 1>tell us in when we look in the eight o'clock hour,

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<v Speaker 1>and you always bring us the daily wager, and you

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<v Speaker 1>always say, if you don't want it, if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to take my advice, bet against me. You can

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<v Speaker 1>do the other way too, right, That's how I look

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<v Speaker 1>at it with Michigan State. Instead of saying what they

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<v Speaker 1>can't do is turn the ball over, well, just say

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take care of the football. I'd love to see

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<v Speaker 1>him take care of the football. The other thing I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to do to see them do and this is

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be good, right. Gabriel's really good as

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<v Speaker 1>a quarterback for Oregon. How about getting off the field. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't expect Michigan State to score out every possession,

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<v Speaker 1>but what was Ohio State eight for seventeen on third

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<v Speaker 1>downs Trent eight for flipping seventeen That that cannot happen,

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<v Speaker 1>just can't. So too many turnovers. Yes, as I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got thirteen turns, five fumbles, eight picks in five games.

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<v Speaker 2>And the picks is really what it's. I mean, fumbles

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<v Speaker 2>can be a little fluky, and you and I have

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<v Speaker 2>talked about how picks can be fluky at times too right,

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<v Speaker 2>it hit some receiver in the chest or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But with Child specifically, what you're looking at is those

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<v Speaker 2>interception numbers. You want to see a clean game tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>I think some well, yes, one hundred percent. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it was Brian Lindgren. They're off some coordinator who said

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<v Speaker 1>this though he felt I don't know if it was

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<v Speaker 1>the turning point, but I do remember him saying after

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<v Speaker 1>the game that the crusher for his team was they're

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<v Speaker 1>getting into the red zone and they fumbled twice. I

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<v Speaker 1>know they can be fluky, but those were huge against

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 2>They were that was I mean, the Jack velling one

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<v Speaker 2>in particular inside the five. Yeah, I mean that's a killer. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the reason I say that about get off the

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<v Speaker 1>field and Ohio State eight for seventeen is the number

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<v Speaker 1>I recall and I just looked it up and yes

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<v Speaker 1>that is correct. Is that Oregon they don't give up

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of points. Okay, look at their schedule, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you want to bottom line is numbers oftentimes can matter. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>look at their numbers for Oregon and their defense. Look

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<v Speaker 1>at what they do. There's a reason the ranks sixth

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<v Speaker 1>in the country. Okay, Yes, they weren't great against Idaho,

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<v Speaker 1>high scoring, but close game against Boise State and then

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<v Speaker 1>an absolute ass kicking of Oregon State before doing the

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<v Speaker 1>same to UCLA. And I know we don't respect UCLA

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<v Speaker 1>all that much, but well we don't know the the

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<v Speaker 1>Oregon State. The Oregon State thing is what do we

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<v Speaker 1>always say, Oh, rivalry games, anything can happen. Well, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>happened for the Beavers in that game. This one might

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<v Speaker 1>be personal for Jonathan Smith, and I think it will be.

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<v Speaker 1>He won't let that get in the way because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>his his alma mater was embarrassed by Oregon. A couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks ago, and he knows this rivalry well right.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and you carry that hatred with you. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not going to like imagine Ryan day someday is

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<v Speaker 2>coaching in the ACC. Is is he gonna hate Michigan

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<v Speaker 2>any less than he does? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't think so, right, you know, Ryan Dayton played

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio State. But yes, you're right. I mean he has

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<v Speaker 1>developed that hatred, right, Jonathan Smith, it'll get there for

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<v Speaker 1>him right now. You can't blame him if that is

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<v Speaker 1>aimed at Oregon without letting that seep in too much. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>But the Ducks only allow nineteen points a game, Trent,

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<v Speaker 1>they only allow two hundred and sixty seven yards per game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be tough to move the football on them.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I say get off the damn field, make

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<v Speaker 1>sure the defense gets off the damn field. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that because I think it's a key. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>really important. You want to possess the football, and if

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't end in points, so be it. Possess the

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<v Speaker 1>football a little bit, make them work. And I remember

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about staying in the game, We're not talking

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<v Speaker 1>about necessarily winning the game.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing. You want to be competitive, and how

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<v Speaker 2>do you hang with a team like Oregon. You move

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<v Speaker 2>the football a little bit, you make them punt a

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<v Speaker 2>few times, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Field position, right field position.

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<v Speaker 2>Game decision making with the coaching staff, all these things,

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<v Speaker 2>play calling, pace of the game. It's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 2>hostile environment. You know that, and I have no doubt

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<v Speaker 2>that Jonathan Smith has prepared them for that.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's Look, it's not gonna be any Oregon's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna be any worse than playing at Penn State.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not gonna be any worse than playing at Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm convinced those two teams. Quite honestly, I think Washington

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<v Speaker 1>is louder than Oregon. I honestly believe. I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the Big Ten. I think when when you

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<v Speaker 1>play at Penn State, I think it's the loudest stadium

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<v Speaker 1>in the Big Ten. And I think Ohio State's next.

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<v Speaker 1>What comes after that, I don't know, to be honest

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<v Speaker 1>with you, Penn State's not one. You're exactly right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Wisconsin can get a little out, so I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that has much to do with it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you bring up a really good point coaching

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<v Speaker 1>decisions when it's fourth and three or fourth and two

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<v Speaker 1>at your own forty eight and people are screaming, people

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<v Speaker 1>in Spartan gear are screaming, go for it. My hope

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<v Speaker 1>is he punts that sucker away.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think after the Ohio State game, because we

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<v Speaker 2>all know what happened on the first drive of that game,

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<v Speaker 2>I think he will if that's the case tonight. So

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<v Speaker 2>something to watch for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think you've you've got to play and look,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Smith's alive. All that's smarter than I am. I

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<v Speaker 1>just think when it comes to this, these types of

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<v Speaker 1>games against these superior talented teams, so they are, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to admit that for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what you're getting to is your margin of

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<v Speaker 2>error is razor thin.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Yeah, Ohio State was superior. They're the number three

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<v Speaker 1>team in the country, but Michigan State moved the football

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<v Speaker 1>on them, which was really impressive. But you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to You've got to be able to say

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<v Speaker 1>to yourself, the ego's got to be set aside for

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<v Speaker 1>a minute. The bravado has to be set aside for

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<v Speaker 1>a moment. Yeah, we all want to stick our chest

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<v Speaker 1>down and go, damn it, I'm going forward on fourth down. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can do that at a bar with my friends

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<v Speaker 1>while watching MSU and hoping for the best. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have it. There's no repercussions for me, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And you can always like say, well I would have

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<v Speaker 2>gone for it there. If they don't go for it,

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<v Speaker 2>or if they go for it and don't get it,

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, well they're gone for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn it, Trent, What the hell do they put Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>job in for? I never would have done that. Hey

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<v Speaker 1>another round? Here plays? Oh, some more wings for my friends?

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<v Speaker 1>Please come on, No, no, you don't have to You

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to do that. Michigan State is going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to understand and they will understand that you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to play field position against a team like this that

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<v Speaker 1>is this talented. They are better than you. Doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to beat you, but talent wise they are

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<v Speaker 1>better than you. Ohio State talent wise better than you.

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<v Speaker 1>Accept it. We said this about the Tiger series. Houston

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<v Speaker 1>talent wise better than Detroit, and yet the Tigers advance.

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<v Speaker 1>Why how they played the game, took the extra base,

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<v Speaker 1>stole bases, bullpen was dead on, didn't overwork that bullpen,

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<v Speaker 1>situational hitting, situational baseball allowed them to advance. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>you win, Okay, that's how you win against teams that

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<v Speaker 1>have more talent. And if you can't admit that, if

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<v Speaker 1>you get well, we won, so we had more talent.

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<v Speaker 1>Not always the more talented teams don't always win, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you think the Giants were more talented than an

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<v Speaker 1>undefeated New England Patriots team with Tom Brady a down?

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<v Speaker 2>Hell no? And I'll use the Michigan State example, Michigan

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<v Speaker 2>State going into the Shoe in twenty fifteen and winning

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<v Speaker 2>that game with the backup quarterback. It was Michigan State

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<v Speaker 2>more talented than Ohio State was that day. Of course

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<v Speaker 2>they weren't.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, It's a good example. It's a really good example. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>Connor Cook that day? Right? How the hell did you

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<v Speaker 1>win that game? Coaching decision making? Right? Like we can

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<v Speaker 1>we get really we try to rally around emotion, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all for it too, and I sports is emotional.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I get emotional about a lot of different

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<v Speaker 1>things when it comes to our favorite teams. But it

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<v Speaker 1>only takes you so far. You guys like Ray Lewis

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<v Speaker 1>coming out and dancing and doing the slide step, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and Lebron James puffing up all that baby powder just

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<v Speaker 1>before the game. It only lasts a little bit of time.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, It's like a shot of adrenaline. It only works

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<v Speaker 2>for you know. I mean, yeah, game is a yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Eventually, somebody's gonna punch you in the nose. How are

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<v Speaker 1>you gonna respond to that? I saw a video clip

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<v Speaker 1>of Terry Bradshaw talking about frank O Harris. Terry Bradshaw

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<v Speaker 1>got body slammed by Hollywood Henderson on a play that

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't happened. I think they were trying to. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they were blowing a dead or whatever, but he body

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<v Speaker 1>slammed Terry Bradshaw. Frank O. Harris got in his grill

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<v Speaker 1>right away. I mean he was pissed. And Terry Bradshaw said,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen frankele like this because he was a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty mellow mannered guy, good running back, mellow mannered guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes back to the huddle Frank Co Harris does

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<v Speaker 1>after putting his finger in Hollywood Henderson's chest and screaming

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<v Speaker 1>at it, or not even screaming at him, but giving

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<v Speaker 1>him a stern talking. He goes back in the huddle

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<v Speaker 1>and he says to Terry Bradshaw, I want the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me the ball, Brad. They called him Brad for Bradshaw,

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<v Speaker 1>give me the ball, Brad, And Terry Bradshaw said Franco

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<v Speaker 1>never did that, and he ran left guard up the

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<v Speaker 1>gut and into the end zone and was pretty fired

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<v Speaker 1>up over it. That emotion worked at that point. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>can you carry that type of emotion all the way

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<v Speaker 1>into the fourth quarter? It's hard. How many times if

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<v Speaker 1>you played golf and you've drained a long putt for

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<v Speaker 1>birdie and you're like, yes, come on, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>go to the next tea box right shank right, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>b in in one out and two hitting three right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, those are the those happen. The emotion only

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<v Speaker 1>lasts so long.

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<v Speaker 2>And the intensity it is emotion, I agree with you,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think it's also intensity and there's a slight

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<v Speaker 2>difference there. I mean, being able to bring it in

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<v Speaker 2>the fourth quarter when you're tired and you've been playing

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<v Speaker 2>all game and you've done it all game that you

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<v Speaker 1>Some teams aren't. You're right, But I think the great

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<v Speaker 1>But Mike Singletary, if you ever watched him play, Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Singletary the middle linebacker for the Chicago Bears on that

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<v Speaker 1>eighty five team that I still think is the best

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<v Speaker 1>defense I've ever seen. Those guys were he was intense

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<v Speaker 1>on every single snap, But he doesn't always not every

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<v Speaker 1>single snap because as he's saying, I like that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of party. I like that kind of party. Bring it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a famous NFL Films clip. It's only so much

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<v Speaker 1>you can do, right Spencer's Torkosen sliding head first with

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<v Speaker 1>a run to clear the bases, Thank you, Andy I

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<v Speaker 1>Banyas with the basses loaded, clearing double sliding into home plate?

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<v Speaker 1>Is is he going back on the field with that

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<v Speaker 1>same type of emotion. You've got to bring it down

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<v Speaker 1>to a certain extent. And I get it. It varies

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<v Speaker 1>on the sport, right, I understand that, But eventually it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be That's why people talk about momentum, the momentum

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<v Speaker 1>shifting and swinging and so on and so forth. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be a hell of a challenge from

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan State. Let's hope they are up to it, because

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<v Speaker 1>that would be arguably the best win of any Big

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<v Speaker 1>Ten team this season. You go to Oregon, rank six

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<v Speaker 1>in the country, having the type of numbers that they boast,

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<v Speaker 1>and coming off of back to back losses, one of

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<v Speaker 1>which you could have easily won, the other where you

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<v Speaker 1>hurt yourself more than anything else, but you still lost

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<v Speaker 1>to a better team. You go into Oregon, you go

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<v Speaker 1>into Eugene and beat that team, I would argue would

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<v Speaker 1>Ten this season, unless unless a team goes in to

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<v Speaker 1>Columbus and beats Ohio State when they weren't expected to

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a really good point, because these docs are

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<v Speaker 2>top ten in the nation for a reason. You're playing

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<v Speaker 2>on the role you're playing on a Friday night. It's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a weird spot. I will say this, This

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<v Speaker 2>is the last thing I'll say about this game. There

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<v Speaker 2>will be moments, there will be plays where the Oregon

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<v Speaker 2>Ducks are going to punch you in the punch you

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<v Speaker 2>in the mouth. You gotta take it on the chin, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and you've got to get off the mat. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be about how you respond. Right if Michigan State shep

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<v Speaker 2>you and I have talked, if they're able to stay

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<v Speaker 2>in the game, stay competitive, That to me, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if you lose to Oregon by three tonight, it'll it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be gut wrenching, it'll suck for the fans that traveled

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<v Speaker 2>out there to go. Yes, but you will be able

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<v Speaker 2>to come back home and take on Iowa with a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of a different mentality, saying, Okay, I know

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<v Speaker 2>we've lost three in a row, but you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>we gave the Ducks our best out there and we're

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's not just Iowa. I think it does

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<v Speaker 1>help you moving forward, no doubt now.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you got Michigan right after that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's not take this too much out of content.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, if Perdue goes into Columbus at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the year and beats Ohio State, then that would

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<v Speaker 1>be a better Absolutely. I just don't foresee that happening,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't foresee Michigan State winning at Oregon either.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're able to do that, and you're able

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<v Speaker 1>to stay in the game, like you just mentioned, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're able to make the right decisions, you're able to

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<v Speaker 1>take care of the football. They've proven they can move.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're Michigan State, if you're Aidan Childston, you're that

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<v Speaker 1>offense and coach linger, and you're saying to your guys

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<v Speaker 1>all week long, you realize, I'm sure we move the

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<v Speaker 1>ball against what many would consider a better team and

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<v Speaker 1>be a better defense. If we can do that now,

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<v Speaker 1>I was at home, but I'm not sure how much

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<v Speaker 1>that truly matters. If we can do that, then we

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<v Speaker 1>can do that against Oregon. Let's just let's remind ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>that we've done this before, we can do it again.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I know how people feel about the home field advantage.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I don't buy enough into it. I probably should.

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio State doesn't give a crap where they play. Their

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<v Speaker 1>defense is going to be good no matter what. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not worried about. You know, some fraternity from Michigan State

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<v Speaker 1>getting loud than anybody else. Okay, just because they're not

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's not Ryan Field. It's louder than Ryan Field.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't mean that Ohio State is going to go, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, how are we gonna move the football? We're intimidated?

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<v Speaker 1>No wrong answer that stuff gets way overblown, way overblown.

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<v Speaker 1>If if we've seen it time and time again, I've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it before on this show, and I've given

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<v Speaker 1>you the numbers two. If it's that, it was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>intimidating last night in Milwaukee during the ninth inning, Pete

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<v Speaker 1>Alonzo's up Gavin Williams, one of the best closers in

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<v Speaker 1>all of baseball, has a disgusting change up all right,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I mean it's borderline unhittable. Peter Alonzo delivered was

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<v Speaker 1>that moment too much? Remember earlier in that game. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you watched it. Earlier in the game,

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<v Speaker 1>he dropped a foul fall of a foul pop up

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<v Speaker 1>right in front of the stands, and the stands were

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<v Speaker 1>giving it to him. They were all in his face.

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<v Speaker 1>They were pointing at him, they were screaming at him.

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<v Speaker 1>They were saying every possible thing you could possibly utter

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<v Speaker 1>to a professional athlete. And he hurt it. Then he

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<v Speaker 1>had to go back to his post at first base

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<v Speaker 1>and try to swallow a little bit of pride and say,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I gotta get through this. Then he stands

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the batter's box. Not that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to have rabbit ears, but he stands in the batter's box.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't think anybody was screaming at him about

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<v Speaker 1>what he had just failed to do, catch a pop

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<v Speaker 1>up and get on him. You don't think that's intimidating.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he handle it in the opposite field? Three run

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<v Speaker 1>Jack and his team suddenly takes the lead. Yeah, that'll

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<v Speaker 1>do okay, So the home field, I get it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>in motion. We love to cheer. We feel like we

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<v Speaker 1>make a difference, and I think a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>you do. But it's not the be all end all.

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<v Speaker 2>It can certainly help you out. I think it gets

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<v Speaker 2>a little overboiling how much it can hurt you at times.

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<v Speaker 1>So if that makes sense, Ohio State going into Michigan State,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nobody on that bus trip going, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>how are we gonna deal with this pressure? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that's the case at all.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I would argue they embrace it. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure Michigan State is looking at it like, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>shut those guys up. I know Michigan feels that way.

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<v Speaker 1>They're glad that they're leaving home. We've been at home

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<v Speaker 1>long enough. Let's go test ourselves on the road,