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Out from February twenty four, nineteen forty nine, here is
the case of the poison Peddler.
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Speaker 4: And Now to covers five. Now, let's be absurd for
just one minute. You know, and I know it would
be impossible actually to take a microphone right into the
New York on the world and interview who who?
Speaker 6: But if we could, there's.
Speaker 4: One character we certainly wouldn't want to miss.
Speaker 3: Bugs. Go here, Bug, come here a minute.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's my next name, Bug, I don't think I
ain't no cargo Saint Loie Almira.
Speaker 3: That's a good fan. Now, my didn't stir much. Bugs
a strange laugh. You have aa off the creticism.
Speaker 7: When I was with the Hogan Gang, I took for
a ride my slots cut left for dead, done something
to my lynx and give me a funny laugh and
sensitive about it?
Speaker 3: How did you get so powerful? Bugs?
Speaker 7: Hopefully brains A little double cross here, a little double
cross there, maybe having a guy being took for ride.
I got the biggest racot now in the country. Hey,
lollly Bell, he's all.
Speaker 8: I was as good as the follies of the rod.
Speaker 9: I was the fuss the Broadway.
Speaker 4: You're about thirty eight twenty six.
Speaker 3: Your cause, my daughter.
Speaker 7: Since you know this guy Diamond, he works for me too,
Hey Diamond, who's a big shot you are?
Speaker 3: Bug? Tell him what I learned it.
Speaker 10: We've organized the Young Defenders. The idea is race hatred
joined the Young Defenders and we sell them uniform some
thousands of badges for five dollars each.
Speaker 6: We make four bucks a bed.
Speaker 10: I make speeches at the meetings, get him excited against
other racers. So there may store windows, the rocks and
so forth.
Speaker 7: I'll tell him how I use you, Lully Well, I
got to store.
Speaker 6: I was run by the races. We work up again.
I'm selling protection from the kid nobody.
Speaker 7: But Bugs Going, you could have sunk up a double
record like that. That big money in selling hate. You'll
have to pardon me now, you three. I got a
return to the broadcasting studio, but I too hate hate
you three and the things you stand for.
Speaker 4: Now after that, make believe we're back in the radio studio,
ready to start our counterspy case for tonight. It starts
three weeks ago in the overly furnished, expensive apartment of
Bugs Going here in New York. Bugs was talking to
his henchman, Diamond. Lilly Belle was discordantly playing the tennel.
Speaker 3: Lolli Bell plays the piano. The guys play Marbels, good joke, Bud.
Speaker 10: Tonight, I'm gonna begin speaking to the young defenders on
Long Island.
Speaker 11: We should get five hundred new members.
Speaker 10: That's five thousand bucks.
Speaker 12: Hello, Layofana, coum here next week.
Speaker 10: The kids out on Long Island.
Speaker 9: If we all worked out Nation.
Speaker 7: Window, Little Bell, you work Long Island next week too,
if diamonds can bring in five thousand bucks for dues,
you should get five thousand for selling protection to the swords.
Speaker 3: And the phone is for me.
Speaker 2: I'll get it, Simon.
Speaker 13: We've gotta tell bugs sooner or later. No, but if
bugs finds out, give me a.
Speaker 10: Week on Long Island and I'll bring him back a
bag ago.
Speaker 11: You'll feel good.
Speaker 6: Then maybe we'll tell him big secret.
Speaker 9: Next corner, Billy, what's side?
Speaker 2: What's the level?
Speaker 6: No matter, Billy is good.
Speaker 7: No, I just want to make sure nobody's wrong.
Speaker 8: Get the paint, Billy.
Speaker 2: We ain't got all night.
Speaker 13: Maybe we shouldn't paint.
Speaker 10: This store it, but it was good, suppose a collill.
We joined the Young Defenders to show guys like oh
man Green, we don't want them in this part of town, right, yeah, just.
Speaker 6: So well, then come on.
Speaker 14: Those mirrors, whole store window with paint, and then we'll
put the rest of it in the doorway.
Speaker 6: Show this all uncle, He and left around with the young.
Speaker 15: Defenders, and let us stop tainting quick.
Speaker 11: That give me a small bruce.
Speaker 8: It's gonna make a picture.
Speaker 3: Of hey.
Speaker 16: Boring, stop her bathing, murky, don't big you you come
in the night to spoil an old man's.
Speaker 15: Taw billy.
Speaker 5: His head.
Speaker 12: Come on, Billy, help me.
Speaker 17: He's all out of me.
Speaker 6: Come on, Billy's right out.
Speaker 18: Here, my green, my ya, let's go.
Speaker 15: Let's go.
Speaker 9: H just me, pop, oh, Billy, Well about the time
he got hold you know it's the late pop.
Speaker 3: I was just going to turn out the lights and
then you what's helping me?
Speaker 14: Your jacket?
Speaker 9: Jack?
Speaker 7: Oh, I caught the pocket on the hand of a
guy's car.
Speaker 3: Ripped it.
Speaker 7: Don't worry, Papa.
Speaker 8: Even your mother when she was alive, couldn't have thought
up a ripping your coat up?
Speaker 3: Bad as it is, it's lace.
Speaker 7: Don't answer.
Speaker 6: Don't answer it. No, Please, I pop down the door.
If I don't, don't open that door.
Speaker 3: Yes, sorry, mister, I've got to come in.
Speaker 8: Okay, what's the idea of walking in here with a gun?
Speaker 3: But your boy? Yes, come here, boy, come man?
Speaker 15: Oh?
Speaker 6: Now, look what's happened?
Speaker 7: What's he done?
Speaker 3: N jacket now speaks of Claus tawn jacket.
Speaker 6: Look, my boy is a good boy.
Speaker 3: Now why do you do this?
Speaker 6: Please?
Speaker 3: What's he done? Kill the man?
Speaker 6: Kill the man, my boy, Kill.
Speaker 3: The man.
Speaker 19: Who counted my headquarters? Washington, DC, complying with your requests
to local police officials that information pertaining to Young Defenders
of America be forwarded to you. Two members of that
organization have just been arrested in New York for manslaughter.
Speaker 11: This is how speaking, this Young Defenders organization, which is
spreading Ranchio hatred, is top priority. Mister Peters and I
will arrive in New York in three hours.
Speaker 3: Darting.
Speaker 17: This is Philly Clinton. Billy, yes, miss Willie's father, and
I'm terribly sorry.
Speaker 3: About all this.
Speaker 6: Missman, my boy, kill the man.
Speaker 14: I'll be outside if you want me, Missardi, m hm.
Speaker 6: No, Billy, you're in quite a miss.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 6: It's how do you get mixed up with these Young Defenders?
Speaker 7: Well, I all the guys were joining us.
Speaker 6: Just seemed like the thing to do in the summer.
Speaker 3: I see.
Speaker 6: You read the newspaper which is published for the Young Defenders.
Speaker 3: Yes, I agree with it.
Speaker 15: Oh, I didn't think so much about it, size, I
just read it.
Speaker 6: Did you ever hear a man named Vincent Diamond?
Speaker 15: Yes, he's a national leader.
Speaker 6: I know he speaks to all our branches and members.
Speaker 11: Tell me, really, didn't it ever occur to you to
question this bigotry. There's hated minorities and races that he
was freaking.
Speaker 6: I don't know, mister.
Speaker 7: Ellie, you get so excited you you're just joining me.
Speaker 6: I see about me.
Speaker 15: Yes, Jeeves, the first report that the Green died is
not correct. He responded to treatment on the way to
the hospital.
Speaker 3: Queen.
Speaker 15: It's been in the operating room four hours. I delicate
brain operation. There's a chance he might live.
Speaker 6: Oh, I hope.
Speaker 11: So this gives me an idea, Peter, keep that information secret.
I want to talk to mister Clinton. Billy, I want
you to leave it for a few minutes. Yes, can
I it's my father first, certainly, I'm sorry Pop.
Speaker 8: So now Billy likes mister Harding said.
Speaker 6: Miss Clinton.
Speaker 11: These boys committed this time themselves, but the poison propaganda
peddled by Diamonds.
Speaker 6: Stirred them up. However, that isn't going to convict him.
Speaker 8: But why should the counterspis be called in on a
thing like this, mister Hardy, Mis Clinton, we keep.
Speaker 11: An open file on all crackpot and subvert the organizations.
Speaker 3: You see.
Speaker 11: These hate organizations break down into two types. The ones
led by mentally.
Speaker 6: Upset new Ruddicks, or crackpots and the ones that are
just crooked records?
Speaker 3: What class of a young defendant?
Speaker 11: Indications are? It's a crooked records, and I want you
to help us break it.
Speaker 6: It's too late now to save my boy.
Speaker 11: It's never too late to try anything, mister Clinton. Besides
their other dad and other boys.
Speaker 6: All right, mister Harding, I'll do anything.
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back to counterspire in the Office of the Young Defenders.
Speaker 3: That's the Office of the Young Defenders.
Speaker 7: Ever hear of nothing before you come in.
Speaker 14: I heard my question slipping your wind bag when I was.
Speaker 15: In the chorus.
Speaker 8: No manners with the Office of the Young Defenders. Yes,
where's this diamond man who goes around making a speeches?
Speaker 7: None of the patients.
Speaker 8: It is my business.
Speaker 2: You know who I am.
Speaker 8: I'm mister Clinton, the father Billy Clinton, the arrested for
killing that store keeper.
Speaker 3: Oh, how I want to see that man diamonds?
Speaker 6: He isn't here.
Speaker 7: Where does that door lead to another?
Speaker 8: Office.
Speaker 6: I'll take a look.
Speaker 15: I told you, mister Diamond is here.
Speaker 8: Well, Diamond's been going around talking to the boys at
these Young Defenders meetings. He didn't this justice chief, my son,
he said with a low philly. So he did it,
and I want to see him. I demand to see him.
Speaker 3: Oh Demancy, who oh yo, I'm got quint to mister Diamond.
I'll keep your shirt on. I don't like that, lad.
Speaker 7: I didn't ask you.
Speaker 3: If you did, I get out and go away. I'm
not going anywhere.
Speaker 7: Let's see that man, Diamond. Mister Billy Clinton's Sather.
Speaker 13: Billy was the boy who was seeing and mister green
Star and killed the all norms.
Speaker 7: Yeah, all around the office.
Speaker 8: And I demand to see Diamond. There's gonna be plenty
of trouble now. We've all got to protect each other. Huh,
the same kind of undesirable Diamond is thinking about that.
They're going to persecute my boy and saw it.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, I'm getting this wrong. What do you want?
Speaker 8: I want some money to hire defense in court for
my boy.
Speaker 7: I'm a poor man.
Speaker 8: I haven't got any money for his defense. No, he's
a member of the Young Defender. The organization should defend him.
Speaker 7: You sure, sure, the Young Defenders will defend your boy.
We'll hire the best lawyers money can buy, mister Clinton,
the Young Defenders will not.
Speaker 3: Allow your boy to be crucifer.
Speaker 7: Well, thank you, sir, thank you. Sure sure, you'll come
back to the office in a week.
Speaker 3: You'll see.
Speaker 8: Oh that's wonderful, now, wonderful. We'll all hang together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's not use that word. We'll stick together right
out that way, miss Spender.
Speaker 7: Well, they're saying goodbye, fog. Oh very proud.
Speaker 6: Don't you get it to a defense? Fun.
Speaker 13: We'll raise money from every stucker on Diamond's list.
Speaker 3: We'll scream the.
Speaker 13: Kids being persecuted because he's a young Defender.
Speaker 6: We must really do his defense.
Speaker 3: Oh think of that.
Speaker 7: But me, bugs Gonia, do you think that Simon was
in town?
Speaker 6: You think of it.
Speaker 3: We'll raise the bill by letter.
Speaker 10: Diamond will be awful Steward taking over his end of
the rappers.
Speaker 9: Good.
Speaker 7: It's a good time to show Simon who's got the brains.
We'll collect a hundred thousand bucks by next week.
Speaker 14: The Young Defenders Organization has sent out about two hundred
thousand letters Honey asking for money to defend Joy Clinton.
Speaker 6: Yes, oh, and mister Green is better good. But don't
let that news get up.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 14: Here's who does this Diamond live with. He has a
room by himself. Some way he hooked up with a
gangster called Bugs Gonias anything on a long past record,
but no reason to pick him up.
Speaker 6: Now there's also an ex.
Speaker 15: Is the girl mixed up somehow?
Speaker 11: Well, there's more checking on them, and just as soon
as the money starts coming in for that defense fund,
we'll have some legal reason for moving in on Diamond.
Speaker 10: Oh that's a big fool. Bug didn't have any right
to mix in on my head of the racket while
I was going leave.
Speaker 6: Take it easy, Diamonds. Right from the next moment, he'll
hear you.
Speaker 10: Good mind to tell him about us?
Speaker 6: Anyhow? Cut it out, Diamonds.
Speaker 10: Come on, I'm going to see him.
Speaker 13: Promise me you won't tell him the secret?
Speaker 3: You upset?
Speaker 15: Right now?
Speaker 7: Okay?
Speaker 6: Okay, come on?
Speaker 13: How I take that?
Speaker 3: Then? Are you back?
Speaker 6: Diamond?
Speaker 3: Who you love him?
Speaker 12: M cut that funny laugh?
Speaker 3: I don't like that.
Speaker 13: I don't like you messing with my end of the racket.
Speaker 7: Lesson to him, Lily, sorry, because in one week I
wake it up to make money's made three everything.
Speaker 10: I've done it, but inside the law they couldn't touch it.
Speaker 12: So hell I could get us.
Speaker 10: Now what use the mails? You can get a couple
of years in a pens.
Speaker 7: Through your stupidity, Simon.
Speaker 12: Oh yes, like this, Well I forget it.
Speaker 3: Go on back to your room.
Speaker 7: Dammon, you don't get dressed, Lily, You and me at
seven out the night.
Speaker 13: Wait a minute, simon, Simon, you promise, you promise?
Speaker 3: Why city promise?
Speaker 6: How much you tell me? The young defenders?
Speaker 3: Four person?
Speaker 13: I'm telling nothing, not laughing that way, get that pends, Lily.
Speaker 3: You try to hit me, Lily, No, no, you try
to hit me, and they.
Speaker 7: Hit your mists and hits the diamonds.
Speaker 3: You will if I thought, why would I want to
hit you? Look at me? Don't look at me? Right
me eye?
Speaker 6: Okay, oh diamonds.
Speaker 3: Sure you really hit him?
Speaker 8: And what are we gonna do it?
Speaker 7: You hadn't done that, I would now. We just got
to get him money here, all right, Josh? Can we
pretend it's had too much to drink. We'll walk them
out between.
Speaker 17: I'm scared us scared.
Speaker 18: Hey, I got me another big idea, another like this.
I suppose we leave them alone in the woods. In
a couple of weeks he's found and who killed him?
The young Desira blows that the Young Defenders have been
working against who get us a lot of new members.
Speaker 6: Come on, we got to get rid of.
Speaker 3: Peter.
Speaker 14: You out there, Yes, my charting. We're checking the money
that's coming in on that decent fund, about three thousand a.
Speaker 6: Day, and we're going into wack. Come into my office,
hit it, I re use.
Speaker 14: The court order is starting giving us permission to check
on the money being sent in the undefendeds by males
vicious recapeters. I haven't been able to take up anything
more on that bug's going here. That diamond is some
way connected with here.
Speaker 11: Before we take diamonds, let's go up and pay bugs
a little social call.
Speaker 6: I have checked and the girl is there with him.
Speaker 12: Now cut it out. Well I'm suck of it, I said,
cut it up.
Speaker 6: And I'm sitting am out here doing nothing, going crazy.
Speaker 7: Maybe miss Diamond, maybe I do maybe a sorry. I
want to let you go out play stuff.
Speaker 18: You're sitting there looking up, looking up, and maybe Haiti,
you do hate me, don't you?
Speaker 3: I hate everybody and you hate yourself.
Speaker 11: It's all of your face, not that weak last.
Speaker 7: One words of the cops.
Speaker 13: And you get that chair one sick and set up
with it all this lest reckless of luckness?
Speaker 1: Who answer that door?
Speaker 14: Ah?
Speaker 6: This bugs Goni's apartment? Who wants to know?
Speaker 7: I think we'll walk in?
Speaker 11: You got the nervous I'm hiding at the United States
Counterpise is mister Peters my assistance?
Speaker 3: You bugs, go have a seat, had two? You have
two seats?
Speaker 6: Where's Diamond?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 7: Maybe he's gone on a her name moon Bug?
Speaker 15: Mum hm nothing.
Speaker 6: Does Diamond work for you?
Speaker 9: Nah?
Speaker 3: Where's his passionate acquaintances?
Speaker 6: What do you know about this hate racket?
Speaker 3: Bug?
Speaker 6: During up racial hatred among ignorant people?
Speaker 13: Diamond?
Speaker 4: Does that?
Speaker 6: You're Lily Bell, aren't you?
Speaker 16: Yeah?
Speaker 3: That was the name in the folly.
Speaker 6: You know Diamond pretty well.
Speaker 9: I'm not very well.
Speaker 13: I'm known by side.
Speaker 6: Come from Wisconsin, don't you, Yeah? Paul Junction, Wisconsing.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: You recently got a copy of your booth certificate, didn't you?
Where is it now?
Speaker 7: I I don't know.
Speaker 6: Did you want to show it to someone at the
little town of Wellington over in Jersey.
Speaker 9: Stop it, stop it?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 6: I stopped? Shall I go on?
Speaker 3: What's the idea of all?
Speaker 11: Your birth certificate wouldn't still be at the marriage bureau
in New Jersey Wood, Lily, I don't know.
Speaker 6: Where is your husband?
Speaker 3: Lily?
Speaker 8: Oh, good for you.
Speaker 11: I'll tell you.
Speaker 6: I didn't marry Diamonds.
Speaker 8: He said he was still going to Feter.
Speaker 3: Over the head and I had diamond.
Speaker 6: You know all about this hate racket, Lily, Yes, yes,
every bit of it.
Speaker 15: I was.
Speaker 6: All right.
Speaker 11: Peter cut on Boxconia murder and accomplished the murder and
a whole list of federal offenses inciting race, prejudice and hatred.
The crime of intolerance is the worst of all.
Speaker 6: We'll do everything in our power to help wipe it out.
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Speaker 11: It's all happens that the night's case is very timely.
This is otherhood week, so let's all spread the words.
Don't listen to or spread gossip about any group of people. Instead,
stand up and talk against that kind of talk when
you hear it, not only this week, but all year round.
Speaker 6: That's being a real American.
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to Counterspies. Listen next Tuesday for the exciting counterspy case
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm really fascinating episode.
Speaker 1: I continue to appreciate how Harding manages to play the
criminals by coming up with clever.
Speaker 2: Ways to manipulate them.
Speaker 1: In this case, recognizing that if given a chance, grifters
are going to graft, he set a vent in motion
that would lead to their undoing as they crossed the
line into a federal crime through mail fraud. I do
have to admit the beginning to this episode was certainly
unique that the idea the announcer interviewing the bad guys
and letting him know exactly what he thinks. Is such
an unusual approach of essentially interviewing characters that say, let's
just get this clear.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 1: I know my job is just to set up the
commercials and provide exposition, but I just want to say for.
Speaker 2: The record, I don't like these people. I don't like them. No,
not at all. No, just want to be clear on that.
Speaker 1: And the idea that Okay, this was make that was
make believe, but this is really it's all make believe.
But I think some of that is being done in
the service of the whole idea of National Brotherhood Week.
And this is something you'll hear reference quite a bit
during the Golden Age of radio.
Speaker 2: It was designed to.
Speaker 1: Deal with initially just religious and tolerance and some of
the really hateful rumors that were spread about other religends,
and to get people to listen and to understand each other.
And there were efforts to expand towards other categories like
ethnicity and race, although those could be a bit more
tentative now. Of course, there were people who didn't lack
National Brotherhood Week, and it wasn't just everyone who had
a problem with the concept. There is an episode of
Jack Webb's commentary series that he did as a young
man in San Francisco called One out of Seven, where
he highlighted various acts of intolerance being done against racial
and religious minorities during National Brotherhood Week. And Tom Lair
actually wrote a song in the sixties called National Brotherhood
Week where he essentially lampounded as the performative week where
Americans pretended not to hate everybody that they actually despised,
and it slowly faded away over time, going away completely
in these two thousands. Now we turn to listener comments
and feedback, and we have a comment here regarding the
Counterspy episode Cruited Nurse, with Ba Baracas writing on Spotify
nurses and doctors were flight attendants. Surely you can't be serious.
I am serious. Don't call me Shirley. Well, if nothing else,
that particular point of information gave you the opportunity to
make that joke. And then we go over to YouTube
where we have a comment regarding the camera happy crook
from Allen who writes a similar idea a different script.
Speaker 2: On mister District Attorney.
Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate the comment, and it's not gonna surprise
me a whole lot when it comes to recycled scripts,
if you have cross pollination between a Counterspy and Mister
District Attorney and even Gangbusters, they were all Phillip's Lord productions.
And when you are doing as many episodes as he was,
particularly with two Counterspy episodes per week, you do need
a lot of ideas. And if you've already got scripts
and ideas from another series you can use that's pretty
close in tone, then it makes sense to do that.
I would be interested in the exact case and being
able to compare in between the two shows, but I
do appreciate the information.
Speaker 10: Alan.
Speaker 1: Well, now it's time to think our Patreon supporter of
the day, and I want to go ahead and think Chris,
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of Old Time Radio on Tuesday for Tarzan. In the meantime,
do send your comments to box thirteen at Great Detectives
dot net. From Boise, Idaho, this is your host, Adam
Graham signing off.