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Speaker 1: Meek Singh in Halifax, he offers a press conference on
Speaker 1: affordable housing. Okay, so we keep hearing about this affordable
Speaker 1: housing over and over again. We hear on the federal level,
Speaker 1: we hear on the provincial level. But the really big question,
Speaker 1: at least for me, is how are we defining what
Speaker 1: is affordable? Are we defining affordable by what the average
Speaker 1: family can actually afford according to going by one third
Speaker 1: of their income, especially when we consider that a lot
Speaker 1: of people are working, at least in this area, a
Speaker 1: lot of retail jobs, and those retail jobs they may
Speaker 1: only be working eighteen to twenty hours a week. So
Speaker 1: if we're going to base affordable on a single income
Speaker 1: or two incomes from two single jobs that the person
Speaker 1: is worth that these people are working twenty hours a
Speaker 1: week at say about sev seventeen dollars an hour, then
Speaker 1: that's what we have to base our affordable income on.
Speaker 1: In which case, I mean, let's take a look, and
Speaker 1: we're going to pull up a calculator on our iPhone,
Speaker 1: of course, and we're going to say seventeen times twenty.
Speaker 1: That's three hundred and forty dollars a week times four
Speaker 1: weeks and a month. We're talking that the income level
Speaker 1: is about thirteen hundred dollars a month, and if we
Speaker 1: divide that by three, then the then affordable housing should
Speaker 1: be based on approximately four hundred and fifty to five
Speaker 1: hundred dollars a month. And I'll tell you right now
Speaker 1: that that isn't. That isn't what's really out there. So
Speaker 1: that's affordable housing based based on income. But no one
Speaker 1: seems to want to really define what affordable truly means.
Speaker 1: So we keep hearing this racing back and forth, affordable housing,
Speaker 1: affordable housing, but no one wants to define it. And
Speaker 1: that is what the real issue is. It is how
Speaker 1: do we determine what affordable is for the average Canadian
Speaker 1: so that they are paying a rent based on that. Well,
Speaker 1: we're gonna listen to what Jack Meets Saying has to
Speaker 1: say about protecting renters and affordable housing. Uh, later on
Speaker 1: in the show, we're also gonna hear from Anita Anon
Speaker 1: as Minister Non makes announcements about investments into training trade
Speaker 1: and skilled workers. And it is that again is it
Speaker 1: is a very important issue that we should know how
Speaker 1: you know that there is education out there and that
Speaker 1: education is affordable, that where that where the society are
Speaker 1: actually putting money into getting people trained to do skilled labor.
Speaker 1: This morning there was a CNN report about they have
Speaker 1: found bodies of the hostages in Gaza. Apparently apparently they
Speaker 1: have they found the bodies, they did not find any
Speaker 1: live hostages, as they Israeli Army UH rated a site
Speaker 1: in Gaza so arcandolences to the families who have lost
Speaker 1: loved ones h as a result of the hostage taking
Speaker 1: in in god And on October seventh, twenty three. And
Speaker 1: we do have to say that that they need to
Speaker 1: come to some sort of a ceasefire in that area
Speaker 1: and also come to some sort of agreement where where
Speaker 1: a solution is met, where everyone can live in peace
Speaker 1: there so that there are no more hostage taking, there
Speaker 1: is no more mass destruction and attempts at genocide, that
Speaker 1: everyone lives in peace. Because, let's face it, a lot
Speaker 1: of our global religions Judaism, Muslims as well as Christians
Speaker 1: have roots that come from that area that we do
Speaker 1: call Palestine, and that it shouldn't just simply belong to Israel.
Speaker 1: They shouldn't be they shouldn't have have strict ownership to it.
Speaker 1: That it should be distributed so that those who have
Speaker 1: strong roots in that area, that have they have heritage
Speaker 1: that leads back thousands of years should be also be
Speaker 1: able to live there in peace. As we all share
Speaker 1: the land that is now called Palestine and that once
Speaker 1: was Canaan. So why don't we move forward and let's
Speaker 1: listen to what Minister a Non had to say about
Speaker 1: investing into skilled labor and.
Speaker 2: Trades's announcement today in our facility. As you can see,
Speaker 2: it's a great facility.
Speaker 3: We're proud of it.
Speaker 2: A lot of it came from funding and from there
Speaker 2: I'll just pass it on to whoever's next.
Speaker 3: And thanks, good afternoon everyone, Thank you so much for
Speaker 3: having us at the Mill Rights this afternoon. Always so
Speaker 3: great to have my friend Minister Anita on on here
Speaker 3: on Hamilton Mountain and right here in a neighborhood that's
Speaker 3: really a hotbed for the trades. And I think and
Speaker 3: thank you for you know, calling out the federal government.
Speaker 4: Because I think I.
Speaker 3: Find that our government is truly labor friendly. We were
Speaker 3: the government that as soon as we took power, we
Speaker 3: got rid of Stephen Harper's old anti union legislation. We've
Speaker 3: brought in measures so that trades people can claim it
Speaker 3: when they have to travel out of town for their work.
Speaker 3: We've recently brought in anti scablet so I you know,
Speaker 3: and all of those things happen when we have conversations
Speaker 3: with people like Braden and nol. So thank you so
Speaker 3: much for your time, for welcoming us here and having
Speaker 3: such a great conversation this afternoon. Before we begin, I
Speaker 3: would like to acknowledge that we're gathered on the traditional
Speaker 3: territories of the Eerie Neutral Hero and whend At Hodna
Speaker 3: shone In Mississauga's land covers side the dish with one
Speaker 3: spoon wamp Them Belt Covenant, an agreement between the Hodna
Speaker 3: Shonee and the Honish Nabe to share and care for
Speaker 3: the resources around the Great Lakes. We acknowledge that this
Speaker 3: land is covered by the Between the Lakes Purchase in
Speaker 3: seventeen ninety two between the Crown and the Mississaugas of
Speaker 3: the Credit firsts. You know, Hamilton really is the home
Speaker 3: of skilled trades. It's really important to the city, a
Speaker 3: city with a long history of manufacturing, and we really
Speaker 3: need to diversify the trades. We need to tear down
Speaker 3: the barriers to entering the skilled trades. As the Parliamentary
Speaker 3: Secretary to the Minister for Women in Gender Equality and Youth,
Speaker 3: has been part of my goal to encourage young girls
Speaker 3: and women to get into the trades. There's so many
Speaker 3: good jobs. You think about the mill rights. The first
Speaker 3: mill rights were the master craftsmen who made the water
Speaker 3: wheels work. And today you know, we walked through and
Speaker 3: saw the innovation and then the type of work you're
Speaker 3: basically making. The people that make the engineers look good
Speaker 3: and so really important part of our community. And without
Speaker 3: further ado, I am so pleased again to welcome my
Speaker 3: friend Anita on On, the Minister for the Treasury Board,
Speaker 3: the President of the Treasury Board for our federal government
Speaker 3: and a true inspiration to all women in Canada.
Speaker 5: Well, thank you so much, Lisa, and hi everybody, especially
Speaker 5: Brad and Knowle. I made two friends today, in particular,
Speaker 5: learned a lot about the facility here, the role of
Speaker 5: a mill right in our country and the importance that
Speaker 5: this area of labor brings to the supply chain. And
Speaker 5: so thank you so much for our conversation and for
Speaker 5: all the work that you're doing. I just want to
Speaker 5: touch for a moment on a point that Lisa made
Speaker 5: just a moment ago, which is what our government stands
Speaker 5: for in terms of unions. And since twenty fifteen, our
Speaker 5: government has been there for unions, including with the anti
Speaker 5: replacement worker legislation this year, and there are a number
Speaker 5: of other items and all along that process. We have
Speaker 5: been very committed to helping Canadians upgrade their skills and
Speaker 5: find new jobs. And the count is at over one
Speaker 5: million at this point.
Speaker 6: In terms of reskilling and skilling workers and helping them
Speaker 6: find new jobs AOSC depu di these dim laxe a
Speaker 6: la parle san dica de pre de s Canadian ecayer
Speaker 6: in Manderetavind And so some of the things that we
Speaker 6: are focusing on now and that we've done really are
Speaker 6: implementing labor requirements in major tax credits to secure union
Speaker 6: wages and apprenticeship opportunities for Canadian workers in the clean economy,
Speaker 6: providing ten days of paid, six sick leave for all
Speaker 6: federally regulated workers and banning replacement workers as I mentioned,
Speaker 6: but we do remain conscious of the realities of the workforce.
Speaker 6: That workers are aging and the inevitable surge of retirement
Speaker 6: is leaving us in great need of skilled workers, and
Speaker 6: what we need to do is to recruit, retain and
Speaker 6: train more apprentices. We need young Canadians at the beginning
Speaker 6: of their careers who will be taking Canada's green economy
Speaker 6: into the future. And we also need to build more
Speaker 6: housing faster, which is why we need thousands more skilled
Speaker 6: trades people from framers to painters and every skill in between.
Speaker 6: Today we are announcing an investment of more than seventy
Speaker 6: four million dollars in total funding for projects across the
Speaker 6: country and under the Investments in Training Equipment Stream one
Speaker 6: hundred and fourteen projects will help unions and training providers
Speaker 6: improve the quality of training through better equipment and materials
Speaker 6: that meet the latest industry standards. And under the Innovation
Speaker 6: and Apprenticeship Stream ten projects will support unions to recruit
Speaker 6: and retain apprentices in red seal trades that was an
Speaker 6: issue we just discussed the importance of red seal and certification.
Speaker 6: Now With these investments, we are supporting a diverse cohort
Speaker 6: of apprentices, including women, newcomers, persons with disabilities, Indigenous peoples,
Speaker 6: and racialized individuals through mentorship, career services, wrap around supports,
Speaker 6: and job matching. And even better news, we are investing
Speaker 6: over one hundred and fifty thousand dollars into three projects
Speaker 6: right here in Hamilton. I just want to take a
Speaker 6: moment and talk about those three projects for Hamilton. First,
Speaker 6: the mill Write Local nineteen sixteen where we're standing right now,
Speaker 6: is receiving funding to purchase materials for the weld shop
Speaker 6: and safety equipment to incorporate them into their training curriculum
Speaker 6: and into certification curriculum offer to all members within the
Speaker 6: mill wright trade. And we were just so happy to
Speaker 6: actually see training in action on the floor as we
Speaker 6: walked here to this press conference.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 6: Second, we are investing in the IBW Local one oh
Speaker 6: five to get new electrical equipment to enhance health and
Speaker 6: safety training, meet industry demands, improve the welding program's success
Speaker 6: and reduce its environmental impact while supporting workforce development in
Speaker 6: the electrical industry. And then, third, the UA sixty seven
Speaker 6: Joint Apprenticeship and Training Committee is getting funding to acquire
Speaker 6: a skyjack and telehandler to advance safety and skills training
Speaker 6: for all individuals, including under represented groups, to support workforce
Speaker 6: development in plumbing, in stream fitting or pipe fitting and welding.
Speaker 6: So the bottom line here, folks, is that this is
Speaker 6: a win for workers, this is a win for employers,
Speaker 6: and this is a win for our economy and the
Speaker 6: labor supply chain now and into the future. Merciboku, thank
Speaker 6: youll right.
Speaker 7: I'm Noil Contrudas.
Speaker 8: I'm the business rep here for Milray Local nineteen sixteen
Speaker 8: and I'm also the vice president. First off, thank you
Speaker 8: for being here and allowing you to see Milray Local
Speaker 8: nineteen sixty the opportunity to showcase our training center and
Speaker 8: for continue supporting the unionized skilled trades with great programs
Speaker 8: such as YOUTIP. We had a five year plan that
Speaker 8: we're almost at the end of and we were fortunate
Speaker 8: enough to be successful in being approved for YOUTIP funding.
Speaker 8: Without these fundings streams, our goal of creating elite training
Speaker 8: programs or purchasing the equipment and consumables needed would not
Speaker 8: have come to fruition. UTIP and other government funding gives
Speaker 8: us the capabilities to train our locals one thousand members
Speaker 8: to help stay ahead of the curve when it comes
Speaker 8: to upcoming technologies, equipment and training aids so we can
Speaker 8: remain as efficient and precise for our signatory contractors and
Speaker 8: their clients. This gives them confidence and comfort knowing that
Speaker 8: our highly skilled and trained mill rights that our local
Speaker 8: hires and develops will execute on time and on budget.
Speaker 8: We now also have the capacity to create and maintain
Speaker 8: partnerships through training and recruitment with organizations such as the
Speaker 8: Workplace Ready Indigenous Trades Experience Program or better known as
Speaker 8: the RIGHT Program from the AJUEWS Skills and Trades Training
Speaker 8: Center on the six Nations of the Grand River Reserve
Speaker 8: or on Tuesday and Wednesday of this week, we hosted
Speaker 8: Trades Ready Youth, whose goal it is is to connect
Speaker 8: youth from the child welfare system to opportunities in the
Speaker 8: unionized construction trades.
Speaker 7: The support from UBC.
Speaker 8: Mill Rates Local nineteen sixteen has had a huge impact
Speaker 8: on the young people training in this program looking to
Speaker 8: get their start. So those are just a few examples
Speaker 8: of the positive impact programs like you to have on
Speaker 8: an organization like ours, and we are increasing the employability
Speaker 8: of our members. That's our goal, increase employability of our members. Again,
Speaker 8: we thank you for being here and the support that
Speaker 8: you guys have been able to provide to not only
Speaker 8: the UBC mill rates, but also do the building trades
Speaker 8: unions in Canada. And we look forward to more success
Speaker 8: with our partnership in the future. So thank you very much.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: To thank you NOL. I think I think your work
Speaker 3: here is a testament to why you're successful in this funding.
Speaker 4: Is really important.
Speaker 3: It's a really impressive facility, and I'd like to point
Speaker 3: out that it's not just men who are training to
Speaker 3: be mail rights here today. Before I turn it over
Speaker 3: to Haley for media, I just like to say it's
Speaker 3: too bad that HML isn't here today. Typically we would
Speaker 3: see them, and I think it's a sad week in
Speaker 3: our community that we have a smaller media presence here today.
Speaker 9: Haley there you.
Speaker 10: Follow yeaes. I probably to jump in how many apprentices
Speaker 10: will this funny impact and how many say that relations
Speaker 10: funny and real people with the race?
Speaker 5: Maybe I'll start off for do you want to start?
Speaker 11: I know we have two hundred and fifty apprentices just
Speaker 11: at this local alone and over thirteen. Yes, sir, I
Speaker 11: know speaking for a Miller Local nineteen sixteen that we
Speaker 11: have over two hundred and fifty apprentices active registered apprentices
Speaker 11: right now that this will just.
Speaker 1: Okay. Next, we're going to hear from Jack meat Sing
Speaker 1: as he talks about affordable housing and protecting renters.
Speaker 4: Hello, Welcome to this press conference with Canada's MVP leader JEDG.
Speaker 4: Meat Sing and Lisa Roberts NDP candidate for Halifax. After
Speaker 4: opening remarks, we'll be taking one question and one follow up.
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Speaker 12: Key for Halifax.
Speaker 13: I'd like to start by acknowledging that I am and
Speaker 13: to meet and I are standing here into in mid Maggie,
Speaker 13: the unseated and ancestral home of the Migma. I'm running
Speaker 13: in the next election because I see how long waits
Speaker 13: for healthcare are hurting people, how the climate crisis is
Speaker 13: impacting our communities, and how the price of homes is
Speaker 13: crushing people's ability to build and even to dream of
Speaker 13: a good life for themselves. I've knocked on hundreds of
Speaker 13: doors this summer, and I've met with seniors who fear
Speaker 13: being forced out of their apartments where they've lived and
Speaker 13: built community for decades. I've chatted with young families who
Speaker 13: feel like their dream of owning a home is.
Speaker 7: Getting further away.
Speaker 13: I choose to be on team toig Meet in this
Speaker 13: election not only because he sees and cares about what
Speaker 13: people are going through, but because he's here with solutions.
Speaker 13: Jegnet inspires us to believe that we can change things
Speaker 13: to finally put people first. It's my great pleasure to
Speaker 13: introduce the leader of Canada's NDP, jugg Meet Sing.
Speaker 7: Thanks honesting, sir Well.
Speaker 9: We're so honored to have Lisa Roberts as our candidate
Speaker 9: here in Halifax, and the people of Halifax will be
Speaker 9: so well served to have someone like Lisa fighting for
Speaker 9: them in Odiwa to make sure auto works for them.
Speaker 9: Before I get into my remarks, I want to just
Speaker 9: talk about the recent notice of lockout for CP rail
Speaker 9: workers and for CN Rail workers. I want to send
Speaker 9: a clear message to Justin Trudeau and the Liberals. We
Speaker 9: will oppose any attempt of the federal government to intervene
Speaker 9: on behalf of the employer against the workers and what
Speaker 9: should be a negotiated agreement between the workers and the
Speaker 9: employer for good wages and safe or conditions. For too long,
Speaker 9: we have seen liberals and conservatives interfere in these type
Speaker 9: of labor disputes to the advantage of the employer to
Speaker 9: the detriment of the worker. That is wrong, and we
Speaker 9: will oppose that. We know that liberals have done it
Speaker 9: and conservatives have done it. Your Democrats will always stand
Speaker 9: on the side of working people to get a fair
Speaker 9: deal for good wages and for safe work conditions, and
Speaker 9: that will remain our principled position. Today, I want to
Speaker 9: talk about something that I think a lot of us
Speaker 9: grew up believing that if you work hard, you could
Speaker 9: find a place to call home. You could buy groceries
Speaker 9: and put food on the table for your family. You
Speaker 9: could save up for a rainy day and maybe take
Speaker 9: your family on a trip.
Speaker 7: You could buy those special treats for your loved one.
Speaker 7: But that is not how things are today.
Speaker 9: Sadly, people are so squeezed they can barely keep their
Speaker 9: head above water. I have a message. I want to
Speaker 9: make it very clear. This is not your fault. This
Speaker 9: is a result of a rigged system, rigged by liberals
Speaker 9: and conservatives to allow corporate landlords to rip you off,
Speaker 9: to renevict you, to jack up rents, to put in
Speaker 9: place fixed lease terms that again rip off tenants, rip
Speaker 9: off people. This is a rig system and Justin Trudeau
Speaker 9: has had nine years to fix this problem.
Speaker 7: He hasn't fixed. The things have gotten worse.
Speaker 9: In fact, seen hundred dollars here in Halifax. In fact,
Speaker 9: for the people that are struggling right now and not
Speaker 9: able to find a home, that are struggling with homelessness
Speaker 9: out of more than one out of five of those
Speaker 9: folks are on the streets as a result of either
Speaker 9: rendedictions or fixed term leases directly result of those policies.
Speaker 9: And what would Pierre Paul you have do well? Pierre
Speaker 9: Paul you have wants even less rules, wants to let
Speaker 9: his corporate buddies rip you off, even more, less protections
Speaker 9: for you, more power for his corporate buddies. And why
Speaker 9: is that, Well, it's because those are his buddies. His
Speaker 9: chief strategists owns a company that is a major lobbyist
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Speaker 9: So he has no interest in changing a system that
Speaker 9: makes his buddies lots of money. The current system makes
Speaker 9: rich developers, corporate landlords lots of money, but it does
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Speaker 7: So we want to change that. Our plan is, let's change.
Speaker 9: The rules so they put people ahead for once. We
Speaker 9: can change the rules to ban renevictions. We can ensure
Speaker 9: that we ban fixed term leases. We can change the
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Speaker 14: I'm just wondering if you could speak a bit about
Speaker 14: the specific ways that you're going to protect renters that
Speaker 14: you're party, you know, if it forms government and the
Speaker 14: next federal election plans to protect renters, as the sign
Speaker 14: here says today.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so there's lots of ways we can do it.
Speaker 7: One concrete example is the.
Speaker 9: Federal government gives UH Insurance c mac so government backed
Speaker 9: insurance to large coroporate landlords, gives them a special tax treatment,
Speaker 9: gives them direct financial assistance. We're saying not a cent
Speaker 9: of that money will go to a company that rips
Speaker 9: off rent, not a cent to that public money would
Speaker 9: go to someone that renevents. And we know that these companies,
Speaker 9: these corporate landlords, take federal support and then go out
Speaker 9: and renovents. We'll go out and jack up rents or
Speaker 9: bring in fixed urn leases. That's one concrete thing. The
Speaker 9: other thing is, in general, there's lots of excuses. If
Speaker 9: a federal leader wants to find an excuse, you can
Speaker 9: find an excuse for jurisdic hit. But I believe leaders
Speaker 9: don't look for don't look.
Speaker 7: For excuses, they look for solutions.
Speaker 9: And some of the solutions are we could We could
Speaker 9: leverage the federal resources that we have, the agreements we
Speaker 9: have with provinces and municipalities, leverage those those agreements to
Speaker 9: say you need to ban you need to better renevictions,
Speaker 9: you need to ban fixed term leases, and we will
Speaker 9: work with provinces and municipiuses make that happen.
Speaker 7: But we really need to get serious.
Speaker 9: About changing the rules that have been set up for
Speaker 9: so long to rip off renters, to rip off people.
Speaker 9: We've got to protect people, and that's what we're proposing
Speaker 9: to do that to follow up yeah.
Speaker 14: On the topic of housing and homelessness as well. One
Speaker 14: potential solution that's been suggested by fellow MP Andy Fillmore
Speaker 14: is to convert some of the Canada Post Lands here
Speaker 14: in Halifax into housing for those who can't afford housing.
Speaker 14: I don't know if you've spoken much on that specific suggestion,
Speaker 14: but would you care to share your opinion on that suggestion.
Speaker 9: I believe we should be using every piece of federal
Speaker 9: land that is available to develop affordable homes. My concern
Speaker 9: with the Liberals they have started using some federal land,
Speaker 9: but the majority of what's being built on that federal lands,
Speaker 9: land owned by the public, owned by all.
Speaker 7: Of us, is not affordable.
Speaker 9: They're using federal lands to build market housing, which is
Speaker 9: not going to help someone who can't afford even some
Speaker 9: of the good job can't afford what the.
Speaker 7: Going rate is for our condo, our house right now.
Speaker 9: So we need that federal land, whether it's Canada Postline
Speaker 9: or any other federal land in cities across our country.
Speaker 9: Every square meter a federal land should be used for
Speaker 9: strictly affordable housing. And I'm talking about affordable housing. I
Speaker 9: mean people should be able to pay the rent and
Speaker 9: have money left over to buy their groceries, to pay
Speaker 9: their bills, to save up. Not the situation where we
Speaker 9: see people are spending over half of their income on
Speaker 9: their homes. That's not affordable. So we should build on
Speaker 9: federal land absolutely, but we need to have strict guarantees
Speaker 9: that we're building affordable homes on that land. That's something
Speaker 9: that neither Justin Trudeau has talked about, and frankly, Pierre
Speaker 9: Poliev talks about building, but he doesn't talk about building affordable.
Speaker 9: So he's talking about helping out his rich developers. Every
Speaker 9: time you year him talk, he's talking about building for
Speaker 9: rich developers and rich investors, not for people. We're talking
Speaker 9: about building for people, affordable homes.
Speaker 7: Lisa is going to add a couple comments on this as.
Speaker 13: Well, thank you. Just specifically on the Canada Post site
Speaker 13: at Almond Street. You know that is relatively closed to
Speaker 13: Winter Park, which is a federal D and D site
Speaker 13: where multiple former private members' quarters which are one hundred
Speaker 13: percent occupied right now, have been torn down under this government.
Speaker 7: There's lots of federal land available which.
Speaker 13: Is in currently providing good jobs in our community where frankly,
Speaker 13: building could start tomorrow. We also have the Shannon Park
Speaker 13: site which has sat undeveloped during this entire Trudeau government,
Speaker 13: while the housing crisis, which is really a product of
Speaker 13: the rules as they have been, has just gotten more
Speaker 13: and more acute. So I think there's there are many
Speaker 13: opportunities that have shorter timelines and which would be.
Speaker 7: More easily.
Speaker 13: More easily pursued in partnership with non market housing providers
Speaker 13: and federal crime corporations and other agencies directly enter the
Speaker 13: control of the federal government.
Speaker 7: It's great.
Speaker 4: Now we will take questions on zoom. First you'll start
Speaker 4: with Salari Amache from Radio Canada.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, good morning interesting. I heard your comments on the
Speaker 12: rail strike off the top, but I just wanted to ask.
Speaker 12: I mean, given the economic impacts of a strike like this,
Speaker 12: is there any sort of federal intervention that you would
Speaker 12: find acceptable?
Speaker 7: First all this this is these are very important workers.
Speaker 7: Their work is very important as well.
Speaker 9: I would say the only appropriate federal intervention is to
Speaker 9: force the employer to get back to the table and
Speaker 9: negotiate fairly with the workers.
Speaker 7: That's not something we see from the federal government.
Speaker 9: They often tip the scales against workers in favor of
Speaker 9: the employers, and that is absolutely wrong.
Speaker 7: The federal government should be there to defend workers. Should
Speaker 7: not be tipping the scales for big bosses again and.
Speaker 9: Again to the point that they know that they're just
Speaker 9: going to come in and tip the scales and they're
Speaker 9: not going to be workers aren't going to be able
Speaker 9: to get a fair deal.
Speaker 7: That is wrong.
Speaker 9: We're only in this position because the company that both
Speaker 9: companies have failed to negotiate fairly with workers, in fact,
Speaker 9: have not shown good faith. If they negotiated in good faith,
Speaker 9: we would have a fair deal that gives good wages
Speaker 9: and safety for the workers, which means safety for citizens.
Speaker 9: We know that rail safety is a very serious question.
Speaker 9: We've seen the impacts when we don't consider rail safety.
Speaker 9: If we don't take that seriously, the impacts are very devastating.
Speaker 9: So this is important for the workers. This is important
Speaker 9: for Canada to get this right and safety for the workers.
Speaker 12: And in the event that the government decides to bring
Speaker 12: in either back to work legislation or binding arbitration, would
Speaker 12: that impact the Supply and Confidence Agreement.
Speaker 7: We've made it very clear that we would oppose both
Speaker 7: of those. We oppose those vehemently.
Speaker 9: The government should not be tipping the scales in favor
Speaker 9: of the big bosses again by signaling any sort of
Speaker 9: intervention that favors.
Speaker 7: The big bosses in the case the employers in the
Speaker 7: s case, that's wrong. We would oppose that every step
Speaker 7: for the way.
Speaker 4: Next, we have Avan Dyer from the CBC.
Speaker 15: Either I heard your comments opening comments about the potential
Speaker 15: rail strike, but I'm just wondering. You've been talking about affordability,
Speaker 15: and you know one of the issues there is the
Speaker 15: price of groceries and so on, and any kind of
Speaker 15: a major interruption of rail delivery would cause those things
Speaker 15: the spike. Do you not have concerns about the effect
Speaker 15: that is strike by fairly well paid workers at places
Speaker 15: like CN and CP would have on low income Canadians
Speaker 15: who have to buy groceries.
Speaker 9: I would not be pitting workers against each other. This
Speaker 9: is about a big boss that's making massive profits, that's
Speaker 9: not cheating the workers scarely and are not negotiating in
Speaker 9: good faith. If they negotiated in good faith, the Cprail
Speaker 9: and Cnrail negotiating good faith, there would be a settlement,
Speaker 9: and the settlements about making sure workers get paid a
Speaker 9: decent wage. It keeps up with the cost of living,
Speaker 9: something I frankly think every worker should get, as well
Speaker 9: as keeping the worker safe, because keeping workers safe directly
Speaker 9: impacts overall safety of the rail system, and that is
Speaker 9: something that we've seen under the Conservatives. When we erode
Speaker 9: rail safety, there are serious disasters and that cannot happen again.
Speaker 9: So this is really about the cnrail and cprail, big
Speaker 9: profitable corporations trying to exploit workers, and we should stop
Speaker 9: that from happening. There should be a fear settlement negotiated
Speaker 9: and the federal should not be intervening to tip the
Speaker 9: scales towards these big companies.
Speaker 7: Again, that is wrong and we will oppose that. And actually,
Speaker 7: just one second piece.
Speaker 9: Our big concern a on the Costic groceries is that
Speaker 9: big corporations are ripping off Canadians. Again in that area,
Speaker 9: we saw the bread price fixing where they made billions
Speaker 9: of dollars, it turns out ripping off Canadians, and the
Speaker 9: biggest fine that they were awarded or the biggest fine
Speaker 9: against them for one of the major players, there was
Speaker 9: only fifty million dollars for Canada Bread Company.
Speaker 7: So how is that going to deter them from doing
Speaker 7: it again.
Speaker 9: That's what I mean when I talk about the rules
Speaker 9: that are rigged against people and in favor of these
Speaker 9: large corporations. When they have very little jeopardy they're facing
Speaker 9: and they can make massive profits ripping off people and
Speaker 9: breaking the law.
Speaker 7: What's to stop them from doing it again? They already
Speaker 7: did it. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: We got to change the rules to protect people from
Speaker 9: being exploited and.
Speaker 7: Gouged by these corporations that have already done so. And
Speaker 7: that's what we're talking about when we talk about affordability.
Speaker 15: And I heard you say you don't want the federal
Speaker 15: government to put its finger on the scales on the
Speaker 15: side of the employer. But why would sending this dispute
Speaker 15: to binding arbitration, for example, be taking the side of
Speaker 15: the employer. Wouldn't that simply be putting it into a
Speaker 15: venue where it could be decided independently and fairly.
Speaker 9: Well, it takes away the rights to negotiate, and fundamentally,
Speaker 9: the rights to negotiate is about fairness in fact, for
Speaker 9: both parties and workers in all cases would rather negotiate
Speaker 9: fairly at the table rather than be forced to going
Speaker 9: to binding arbitration, which could go either way depending on
Speaker 9: the arbitrariness of the arbitrator. It could be something that
Speaker 9: hurts the workers, it could favor the employer.
Speaker 7: We don't know what is more fairest.
Speaker 9: To negotiate at the table, and binding arbitration is something
Speaker 9: that the employers want to.
Speaker 7: See happen for some reason. It must benefit them.
Speaker 9: And so what we want in all cases is workers
Speaker 9: built to negotiate their their settlements, their agreements in a
Speaker 9: fair way, their settlements, their agreements in a fair way.
Speaker 9: The companies that we want to take advantage of the workers,
Speaker 9: that's wrong. They should negotiate fairly, in good faith and
Speaker 9: come to settlements.
Speaker 7: We believe in that. That is our principle.
Speaker 9: We will always find ways to encourage fair settled agreements,
Speaker 9: negotiate agreements. That is who we are as a party.
Speaker 9: That's our belief and will continue to support that every
Speaker 9: step of the way. You'll see liberal's waiver on us.
Speaker 9: You'll see conservatives jump to the help of big corporations
Speaker 9: to rip off Canadians.
Speaker 7: That's not us. We believe that a workers should be
Speaker 7: there is a workers experience, and so.
Speaker 9: We want to always defend the right for working people
Speaker 9: to get a fair deal when they come to getting
Speaker 9: a fair deal with their employer.
Speaker 4: Seeing no other questions acting to me.
Speaker 7: Thanks so much, appreciate it. Thanks every dy for being here.
Speaker 9: Really honored to be able to stand with our candidate
Speaker 9: at Lisa Roberts, candidate for.
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