WEBVTT 1 00:00:28.679 --> 00:00:30.320 Welcome back to the Pathway Chili. 2 00:00:30.399 --> 00:00:33.759 I'm Robin, I'm Jules, and I'm Ashley. 3 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:36.359 Let's dive right into this week's case. 4 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:42.399 June third, nineteen ninety five, Oslo, Norway, the body of 5 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:45.439 a woman is found inside room twenty eighth five of 6 00:00:45.479 --> 00:00:48.719 the Oslo Plaza Hotel, and since a pistol is in 7 00:00:48.759 --> 00:00:50.920 her hand, she appears to be the victim of a 8 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:55.439 self inflicted gunshot wound. Three days earlier, she checked into 9 00:00:55.479 --> 00:00:59.000 a hotel under the name Jennifer Fairgate. Well, the name 10 00:00:59.079 --> 00:01:01.240 turns out to be fake, and since she has no 11 00:01:01.399 --> 00:01:05.200 identification in her possession, the woman remains a Jane Doe. 12 00:01:05.760 --> 00:01:08.480 There are a number of strange details which lead to 13 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:11.799 speculation that Jennifer might have been a spy and was 14 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:14.799 actually the victim of foul play, but all attempts to 15 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:16.920 identify her are unsuccessful. 16 00:01:17.840 --> 00:01:21.640 After that, the path went Chiley. So today we are 17 00:01:21.680 --> 00:01:24.280 going to be traveling to Norway in order to explore 18 00:01:24.280 --> 00:01:28.239 a mystery involving an unidentified decedent, the nineteen ninety five 19 00:01:28.319 --> 00:01:32.159 death of a woman known only as Jennifer Fairgate. As 20 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:34.480 I'm sure you know, about four and a half years ago, 21 00:01:34.920 --> 00:01:37.599 this story was featured on an episode of season two 22 00:01:37.719 --> 00:01:41.319 of the Netflix reboot of Unsolved Mysteries. It involves a 23 00:01:41.319 --> 00:01:43.840 woman who checked into what is probably the most luxurious 24 00:01:43.840 --> 00:01:47.439 hotel in Norway's capital city of Oslo, and three days 25 00:01:47.519 --> 00:01:49.959 later she was found dead inside a room of what 26 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:53.799 appeared to be a self inflicted gunshot wound. Even though 27 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:56.640 she had registered under the name Jennifer Fairgate, all the 28 00:01:56.680 --> 00:01:59.439 details she provided turned out to be fake and her 29 00:01:59.439 --> 00:02:03.120 true ideay could not be established. Needless to say, there 30 00:02:03.120 --> 00:02:05.200 have been a lot of theories pushed forward about who 31 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:08.599 Jennifer Fairgate really was, but one of the most prominent 32 00:02:08.960 --> 00:02:10.520 is that she may have been a spy who was 33 00:02:10.560 --> 00:02:14.479 involved in espionage, and the Unsolved Mysteries episode even explored 34 00:02:14.479 --> 00:02:17.520 the possibility that her suicide was staged and she was 35 00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:20.599 actually murdered by an unknown party. Many of you are 36 00:02:20.599 --> 00:02:23.479 probably already familiar with the story of the Somerton Man 37 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:26.080 at Decened, who was found on a beach in Australia 38 00:02:26.159 --> 00:02:29.919 seventy six years ago and was tentatively identified in twenty 39 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:32.400 twenty two. There are a number of parallels between the 40 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:35.479 Somerton Man and Jennifer Fairgate, which i'll be discussing in 41 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:38.520 more detail later on, but this was another case in 42 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:40.719 which there were all sorts of wild theories about the 43 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:43.719 victim being a spy, yet the actual truth might be 44 00:02:43.759 --> 00:02:47.159 a lot less complicated. So on this episode, we're going 45 00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:49.800 to try and figure out who Jennifer Fairgate was and 46 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:52.360 the circumstances which led to her losing her life. 47 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:55.560 So there's some pros and cons to this case when 48 00:02:55.560 --> 00:02:57.800 you're looking at it from an investigative point of view. 49 00:02:58.199 --> 00:03:00.560 The first thing I think when I hear what you 50 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:04.759 guys just described is we're in twenty twenty five. Please 51 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:09.439 tell me that we have a police department who preserves 52 00:03:09.479 --> 00:03:13.080 some evidence about Jennifer Fairgate in an effort to at 53 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:16.120 least provide an identification for this woman, and that DNA 54 00:03:16.199 --> 00:03:17.319 might be a possibility. 55 00:03:18.439 --> 00:03:21.319 Yes, DNA is definitely a possibility, But I think the 56 00:03:21.400 --> 00:03:24.560 rules for genetic genealogy are different in Europe than they 57 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:27.080 are in North America. I do not believe they've actually 58 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:30.039 implemented it, so they're still at the phase where, well, 59 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:31.879 if we get a good match, we can compare her 60 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:34.800 DNA to it, but they can't actually enter her DNA 61 00:03:34.879 --> 00:03:38.599 into a forensic genealogy database and hope that it matches 62 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:41.080 a distant relative. So I think that's why she is 63 00:03:41.120 --> 00:03:42.120 still unidentified. 64 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:46.520 Okay, well that's frustrating and hard. But then you also 65 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:48.520 have to think of this from a cold case perspective. 66 00:03:48.759 --> 00:03:51.120 When you look at a case that occurred and you said, 67 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:55.639 I believe nineteen ninety five, then the police and anyone 68 00:03:55.639 --> 00:03:59.039 who would be investigating this case eventually have to step 69 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:01.479 back and not give as much attention to a case 70 00:04:01.719 --> 00:04:04.560 like this because there's not much to go on, and 71 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:09.800 in Jennifer's case, you don't have a family and that 72 00:04:09.919 --> 00:04:13.960 political pressure and social pressure saying you have to help 73 00:04:14.080 --> 00:04:17.439 us solvet our loved one's mysterious death, you have to 74 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:20.639 help us keep looking at this. So without that kind 75 00:04:20.639 --> 00:04:24.120 of evidentiary perspective, and without the social and political pressure 76 00:04:24.160 --> 00:04:27.879 of a family and community asking for their person someone 77 00:04:27.920 --> 00:04:32.720 they cared about, to be identified, then it's shocking to 78 00:04:32.759 --> 00:04:35.759 me that we're even discussing this case. I'm excited because 79 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:40.040 Jennifer Fairgate was somebody's daughter and sister and friend, but 80 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:43.079 it's a really interesting case because you don't have the 81 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:45.399 elements you typically have in a cold case. That's being 82 00:04:45.480 --> 00:04:46.399 kept alive. 83 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:49.560 Robin, do you know if okay? 84 00:04:49.639 --> 00:04:49.759 So? 85 00:04:49.920 --> 00:04:54.079 Obviously, when Unsolved Mysteries aired this case, it became a 86 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:58.160 true crime obsession internationally, but would this have been like 87 00:04:58.199 --> 00:04:59.920 a national obsession in Norway? 88 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:04.600 It was pretty much languished in obscurity for a long 89 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:08.040 time until a Norwegian journalist decided to publish an article 90 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:11.000 about it, and it finally got some national attention. And 91 00:05:11.439 --> 00:05:15.319 it wasn't particularly well known in North America before Unsaw Mysteries, 92 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:18.279 but it was discussed in places like Reddit. So I 93 00:05:18.279 --> 00:05:20.920 don't know if it's an obsession, but it has gotten 94 00:05:21.040 --> 00:05:24.759 more coverage in Norway than most cases I think involving 95 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:26.439 unidentified decedents. 96 00:05:27.560 --> 00:05:31.240 Our story begins in Oslo, Norway, in nineteen ninety five, 97 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:35.040 and takes place at the Oslo Plaza, a luxurious five 98 00:05:35.079 --> 00:05:38.160 star hotel which also happens to be the second tallest 99 00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:41.879 building in all of Norway. At around seven to fifty 100 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:45.120 pm on the evening of Saturday, June third, a part 101 00:05:45.160 --> 00:05:48.920 time security guard named espen Nass arrived at room twenty 102 00:05:48.959 --> 00:05:52.240 eight oh five to check on a female guest. The 103 00:05:52.279 --> 00:05:54.759 woman had checked in three days earlier, but it had 104 00:05:54.800 --> 00:05:57.399 not yet made any payment for the room in spite 105 00:05:57.439 --> 00:06:00.439 of numerous requests for her to do so. The woman 106 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:03.759 had exceeded her credit limit, and, since it do not disturb, side, 107 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:06.519 had been hanging on the room's door since the previous morning. 108 00:06:07.000 --> 00:06:10.680 The hotel's receptionist asked Nas to speak with her. When 109 00:06:10.759 --> 00:06:13.160 Nas arrived at the room, he knocked on the door, 110 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:16.079 but was startled when he heard a gunshot from inside 111 00:06:16.120 --> 00:06:19.680 seconds later. Unsure of what to do, Nas hid in 112 00:06:19.720 --> 00:06:22.199 a concealed position for a period of time to watch 113 00:06:22.240 --> 00:06:24.839 the room, but when no one emerged, he took the 114 00:06:24.839 --> 00:06:28.920 elevator downstairs to the hotel's security headquarters and had them 115 00:06:28.959 --> 00:06:32.800 contact the police. The hotel's security chief went to room 116 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:34.959 twenty eight oh five and knocked on the door, but 117 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:38.079 received no answer. Since the door was double locked from 118 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:40.800 the inside, it could only be opened by a special 119 00:06:40.839 --> 00:06:44.399 security key card, so the security chief used it to enter. 120 00:06:45.160 --> 00:06:47.759 He then discovered the body of a woman lying face 121 00:06:47.839 --> 00:06:50.759 up on the bed, where the linen mattress had been 122 00:06:50.800 --> 00:06:53.920 soaked with blood. She was the apparent victim of a 123 00:06:53.959 --> 00:06:57.079 self inflicted gunshot wound, which had been fired through the 124 00:06:57.120 --> 00:07:01.639 center of her forehead. A browning semi automatic nine millimeters 125 00:07:01.680 --> 00:07:04.800 pistol was in the woman's right hand, across her chest 126 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:07.600 and her thumb was on the trigger. There were two 127 00:07:07.639 --> 00:07:10.000 bullets embedded in the floor, and while one of the 128 00:07:10.040 --> 00:07:12.519 bullets was from the fatal shot which killed the woman, 129 00:07:12.959 --> 00:07:15.519 the second one had been fired through the pillow, mattress 130 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:18.920 and bed. Since the pillow was flipped over, it was 131 00:07:18.959 --> 00:07:21.319 theorized that it may have been used as a silencer 132 00:07:21.399 --> 00:07:24.639 for a test shot. When the Oslo police arrived at 133 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:27.600 the scene, they quickly came to the conclusion that the 134 00:07:27.639 --> 00:07:30.800 woman's death was a suicide. There were no signs of 135 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:33.959 struggle or for sentry, and since the door had been 136 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:37.480 double locked from the inside, it seemed impossible that an 137 00:07:37.480 --> 00:07:39.959 intruder could have exited the room and locked the door 138 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:43.160 behind them, and even though the room's window was open, 139 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:47.199 there was no balcony or means to use for an escape. 140 00:07:47.319 --> 00:07:49.720 The woman had registered at the hotel under the name 141 00:07:49.839 --> 00:07:54.759 Jennifer Fairgate and listed contact information for Belgium, but things 142 00:07:54.800 --> 00:07:58.519 became a lot more complicated when the Oslo police got 143 00:07:58.519 --> 00:08:01.720 in touch with the Belgian authority about notifying next of kin. 144 00:08:02.480 --> 00:08:05.439 They soon learned that most of the contact info was false, 145 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:08.720 and there was no record of anyone named Jennifer Fairgate, 146 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:11.959 and sure enough, a search of room twenty eight oh 147 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:16.000 five failed to turn up any official identification for her. 148 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:19.480 So this is really interesting because when you look at 149 00:08:19.519 --> 00:08:24.920 this idea that the death is suspicious, there's elements of 150 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:27.160 the case where you start to say, Okay, who is 151 00:08:27.199 --> 00:08:30.279 this person? What was she doing there? That's the kind 152 00:08:30.319 --> 00:08:32.039 of things that kind of raise the hair on the 153 00:08:32.080 --> 00:08:34.600 back of your neck. But you also have to think 154 00:08:34.600 --> 00:08:38.519 about the security guard who's standing there and he's watching 155 00:08:38.600 --> 00:08:41.240 for someone to come out as if there was a confrontation. 156 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:45.000 He's scared that the shooter could come out into the 157 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:48.440 hallway and actually injure him as well. He's very well 158 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:50.480 aware that there's no other way out of that room, 159 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:53.639 so he's sitting there to watch no one comes out, 160 00:08:54.039 --> 00:08:57.440 and when he goes to the room, there's a deceased 161 00:08:57.480 --> 00:09:00.720 female there with a gunshot into her forehead. Now we 162 00:09:00.759 --> 00:09:03.960 all know when you're talking about suicide, there's a lot 163 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:06.120 of kind of trends when you look at male versus 164 00:09:06.120 --> 00:09:10.799 female suicides, and a shooting is a much less common 165 00:09:10.879 --> 00:09:15.320 method for a woman to complete suicide, especially a facial 166 00:09:15.360 --> 00:09:18.159 injury like that, where she can't be buried in an 167 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:21.720 open casket, those kinds of things. But what if Jennifer 168 00:09:21.919 --> 00:09:25.559 is doing something where no one cares, no one knows 169 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:28.320 where she is, no family's going to come forward, and 170 00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:30.720 so she doesn't care about those things, and it really 171 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:34.039 is a suicide. Is that a potential in this case? 172 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:37.840 I think so. Yeah. And the only reason they've explored 173 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:40.039 the possibility that this could have been a murder is 174 00:09:40.039 --> 00:09:42.559 that the security guard was gone for about ten or 175 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:44.720 fifteen minutes. Even though he looked at the room for 176 00:09:44.759 --> 00:09:47.240 a long time, he went downstairs to get help. So 177 00:09:47.279 --> 00:09:50.039 if there was a killer inside, they could have snuck 178 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:52.919 out during that window of time without anyone seeing them. 179 00:09:53.279 --> 00:09:55.399 And as we're going to go into in a little while, 180 00:09:55.440 --> 00:09:58.759 there's been some speculation that this woman was a spy 181 00:09:58.919 --> 00:10:01.639 and was involved in sp and that if she was 182 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:03.879 killed by someone, it could have been a professional who 183 00:10:04.159 --> 00:10:06.159 locked the door behind them so that it looked like 184 00:10:06.200 --> 00:10:08.679 no one was ever in there. But at the outset 185 00:10:08.720 --> 00:10:11.440 at least, everyone just pretty much assumed it was a suicide, 186 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:14.200 and that does seem like the most logical explanation. But 187 00:10:14.559 --> 00:10:16.840 even if it was the big mystery is who was 188 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:18.440 this woman and why did she do this? 189 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:23.440 Do either of you know how often in the gun 190 00:10:23.480 --> 00:10:29.120 related suicides that people would end up shooting themselves right 191 00:10:29.159 --> 00:10:30.440 in the middle of their forehead. 192 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:34.559 That is very rare, because I've always heard that there's 193 00:10:34.919 --> 00:10:36.840 a risk that you could pass through your brain and 194 00:10:36.879 --> 00:10:39.639 cause damage but not actually kill you. And that's why 195 00:10:39.639 --> 00:10:41.000 a lot, a lot of the time people like to 196 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:43.440 put it in their mouth, because they know that that's 197 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:46.679 a better opportunity to finish the job. But I've rarely 198 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:49.720 ever heard of like a gunshot wound at the forehead. 199 00:10:49.480 --> 00:10:51.120 I mean even to the side of the head, under 200 00:10:51.159 --> 00:10:53.360 the chin, or in the mouth. Those are all much 201 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:56.879 more common, I would think, and especially like I was saying, 202 00:10:56.919 --> 00:11:01.080 you know, a gunshot wound's going to destroy the visual 203 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:04.559 component of your face, and so I feel like, you know, 204 00:11:04.759 --> 00:11:07.759 we know, women are much more likely to do a 205 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:11.080 method that preserves the beauty of their face that their 206 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:13.600 loved one doesn't have to see that there's more emotional 207 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:17.000 thought to those kinds of things. Doesn't mean that women 208 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:20.480 don't shoot themselves. They do, but right in the forehead 209 00:11:20.480 --> 00:11:23.679 it seems uncomfortable, awkward, bizarre to even hold a gun 210 00:11:23.720 --> 00:11:25.120 in that manner as well. 211 00:11:25.759 --> 00:11:29.440 Like I could see in a situation where maybe they 212 00:11:29.519 --> 00:11:32.080 only had like a long gun or like a shotgun 213 00:11:32.120 --> 00:11:34.559 and they were trying to like fen angle a position 214 00:11:34.639 --> 00:11:37.159 to do it, but not with a nine to millimeter. 215 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:39.919 It is odd. You can even assume that she decided 216 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:41.919 to shoot herself in that manner, hoping that maybe able 217 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:44.240 to destroy her face and no one will recognize her. 218 00:11:44.279 --> 00:11:46.519 But they obviously left enough that they've been able to 219 00:11:46.519 --> 00:11:51.279 create a composite sketch of what this woman looked like. Now, 220 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:54.360 I'll mention that prior to the Unsolved Mysteries episode, most 221 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:56.639 of the sources out there referred to this woman as 222 00:11:56.720 --> 00:12:04.519 Jennifer Fergate spelled Feerge instead of Fairgate, which is spelled Fai, 223 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:09.919 which is spelled fair Gate. I think this confusion came about. 224 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:13.039 I think this confusion came about because the hotel's booking 225 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:16.600 department registered her under the name Fairgate when she originally 226 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:19.679 made a reservation, but she twice signed her last name 227 00:12:19.720 --> 00:12:22.679 as Fergate when she checked in. Since the majority of 228 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:25.600 the sources seemed to refer to her as Fairgate, that's 229 00:12:25.639 --> 00:12:28.480 theme I'll be using here, and of course, even though 230 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:31.120 we know her first name isn't actually Jennifer, this is 231 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:32.919 how we'll be referring to her for the rest of 232 00:12:32.919 --> 00:12:36.799 this episode. Jennifer originally phoned in a reservation to the 233 00:12:36.799 --> 00:12:39.919 Oslo Plaza on made the twenty second, and called the 234 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:42.840 hotel again on the thirty first to confirm the reservation 235 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:45.360 and informed them that she was planning to check in 236 00:12:45.399 --> 00:12:48.840 that night. It's worth noting that she spoke English during 237 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:51.840 the first call and German during the second call, where 238 00:12:51.879 --> 00:12:54.000 she also mentioned that she was planning to check in 239 00:12:54.039 --> 00:12:58.039 with a male companion named Lewis Fairgate. This person's first 240 00:12:58.120 --> 00:13:01.200 name is spelled l s, which is how we spelled 241 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:04.600 the female name Lois in North America, but in French 242 00:13:04.679 --> 00:13:08.600 it's a male name and pronounced Lewis. Jennifer showed up 243 00:13:08.639 --> 00:13:10.840 at the hotel to check in at around ten forty 244 00:13:10.879 --> 00:13:13.200 pm on the evening of May the thirty first, and 245 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:16.399 her original reservation was for two nights. The rate for 246 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:19.000 the room was one thousand, eight hundred and forty five 247 00:13:19.080 --> 00:13:21.879 kroner per night, which is around one hundred and ninety 248 00:13:21.919 --> 00:13:26.240 four dollars in American currency, but for reasons unknown Jennifer 249 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:28.559 was never asked to provide a credit card, and she 250 00:13:28.639 --> 00:13:32.360 did not pay anything in advance. It was also apparent 251 00:13:32.360 --> 00:13:35.960 that Jennifer never provided any identification, because even though the 252 00:13:36.039 --> 00:13:38.679 receptionist had ticked the box on the check in form 253 00:13:38.919 --> 00:13:41.480 where a guest is supposed to write down their passport number, 254 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:46.559 no information was listed for her contact info. Jennifer did 255 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:49.879 provide an address for the village of Verlaine, Belgium, which 256 00:13:49.960 --> 00:13:52.440 was located in the promise of Liege and had a 257 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:56.240 population of around three thousand residents at the time. However, 258 00:13:56.279 --> 00:14:00.039 the street name one forty eight Rue de Lastade in 259 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:04.080 the postal code seven nine six eight did not actually exist. 260 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:08.360 The phone number she provided was three five dash six 261 00:14:08.440 --> 00:14:11.799 's eight dash three two six five four eight, but 262 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:15.000 six ' eight was not Forlaine's area code, and while 263 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:18.519 that six digit number did exist in two other area codes, 264 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:21.679 neither of them were six eight. The phone numbers from 265 00:14:21.720 --> 00:14:24.440 these other area codes were later called, but none of 266 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:27.919 the people who answered knew anything about Jennifer Fairgate. On 267 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:31.600 the check in form, Jennifer listed her employer as Serpuce 268 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:36.440 Belgia spelled cer Bis, and it also did not exist, 269 00:14:36.679 --> 00:14:39.039 though there was a Belgian company at the time called 270 00:14:39.159 --> 00:14:46.399 Cerberus spelled cerder Us. Jennifer's birthdate was listed as August 271 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:49.440 twenty third, nineteen seventy three, which would have made her 272 00:14:49.440 --> 00:14:51.960 twenty one at the time of her death, but after 273 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:55.679 an autopsy was performed, forensic pathologist estimated that she was 274 00:14:55.759 --> 00:14:58.279 likely between twenty five to thirty five years old. 275 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:01.039 Well, this is interesting when you step back and look 276 00:15:01.039 --> 00:15:04.360 at all of the details. If she truly was let's 277 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:09.120 say twenty one or even twenty five, what's the likelihood 278 00:15:09.200 --> 00:15:12.279 she's doing something at a high level of putting her 279 00:15:12.279 --> 00:15:15.159 at risk of something like espionage or being a spy. 280 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:18.960 She's a baby that's so young. Now thirty five, I 281 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:21.320 could see her having a career or doing something where 282 00:15:21.360 --> 00:15:24.159 she has a background that gets her deeper and deeper 283 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:27.120 or higher and higher in an organization. But at twenty 284 00:15:27.159 --> 00:15:31.159 one or twenty five, she's just so young. And then 285 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:34.360 you look at this idea that the front desk receptionist 286 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:37.559 doesn't ask for a lot of information. Not guaranteed they 287 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:39.840 required it at the time because we used to be 288 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:42.679 able to pay cash for a room and you make 289 00:15:42.759 --> 00:15:47.759 up whatever name you wanted. But Obviously Jennifer was not 290 00:15:47.799 --> 00:15:50.039 behaving in a way they raised any kind of suspicion. 291 00:15:50.519 --> 00:15:53.240 There was nothing that made her uncomfortable about running her 292 00:15:53.320 --> 00:15:56.519 a room. She very calmly probably filled out all this 293 00:15:56.600 --> 00:16:01.440 information and didn't raise any alarms and made her need identification, 294 00:16:01.600 --> 00:16:04.320 Like she was smooth enough and calm enough, which then 295 00:16:04.360 --> 00:16:07.679 makes suicide really interesting because how long had she. 296 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:10.360 Been in the room, Just a couple of days, so 297 00:16:10.600 --> 00:16:13.000 like she didn't immediately go in there and shoot herself, 298 00:16:13.039 --> 00:16:14.799 Like she came in and out a couple of times 299 00:16:14.840 --> 00:16:17.159 over the next few days before it happened. 300 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:20.679 And it doesn't seem like anyone at the hotel recognized 301 00:16:20.720 --> 00:16:24.120 any kind of distress or change in behavior that would 302 00:16:24.159 --> 00:16:27.399 raise alarm bells. Not that you always can see warning signs, 303 00:16:27.399 --> 00:16:29.720 but you'd think that they would at least be kind 304 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:32.720 of you know, she seems heavy. Last time I saw her, 305 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:36.000 she seemed really upset, but we don't have any of that, 306 00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:38.279 so it seems like she presents very calm, She is 307 00:16:38.399 --> 00:16:41.840 very confident to fill out this false information. So in 308 00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:44.360 that way, you almost feel like, did she come prepared 309 00:16:44.399 --> 00:16:46.639 with all these lies because they were given to her, 310 00:16:47.480 --> 00:16:50.799 or is it just she made them up very comfortably 311 00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:53.200 and didn't care, Like there are people who have no 312 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:58.679 problem falsifying anything that they say, so so many conflicting 313 00:16:58.840 --> 00:17:00.080 behaviors almost. 314 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:04.559 When I find it so interesting that she chose this 315 00:17:04.680 --> 00:17:07.920 Belgian company and maybe she just misspelled it, like did 316 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:11.319 she mean to write Cerberus and write and she wrote 317 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:18.519 service because Cerberus is the multi headed dog who guards 318 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:21.039 who's like one of the hounds of Hell, basically who 319 00:17:21.119 --> 00:17:25.759 guards the gates of Hell or Hades. So I wonder 320 00:17:25.799 --> 00:17:28.799 if there's anything symbolic in her choice there. 321 00:17:29.960 --> 00:17:32.039 I did not know that. I've seen so many theories 322 00:17:32.079 --> 00:17:34.839 about why she shows her name, why she shows these places, 323 00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:36.759 But this is the first time I've ever heard that 324 00:17:36.759 --> 00:17:40.240 the name of a dog, a hound of Hell, is Cerberus. 325 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:41.880 So that's an interesting new take. 326 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:45.039 That is interesting to take a hell hound. That's super cool. 327 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:46.359 I don't know. 328 00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:49.400 But there was a company that truly was just one 329 00:17:49.480 --> 00:17:52.720 letter off right from what No, No, it's quite a 330 00:17:52.759 --> 00:17:54.640 few letters off if you look at she spelled it 331 00:17:55.119 --> 00:18:01.119 ceer Bis, a six letter word, and then you have Cerberus, 332 00:18:01.759 --> 00:18:04.759 which I mean, I don't know, it's not Did they 333 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:08.720 interview people at the actual company that did exist. 334 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:11.640 A good question because they probably never even thought of 335 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:14.039 that at the time, because they just wrote her office 336 00:18:14.039 --> 00:18:17.680 as suicide and maybe didn't put two and two together 337 00:18:17.759 --> 00:18:19.920 and think that, oh the maybe she meant sorebus, So 338 00:18:20.039 --> 00:18:21.480 that part of the story is unclear. 339 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:26.279 There were also conflicting reports about whether or not Jennifer 340 00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:28.839 had a male companion with her, and if he may 341 00:18:28.880 --> 00:18:32.640 have been the mysterious Lewis Fairgate, whose name was also 342 00:18:32.680 --> 00:18:36.599 listed on the registration card. The receptionist who checked Jennifer 343 00:18:36.640 --> 00:18:39.359 into the hotel said that she was alone, but the 344 00:18:39.400 --> 00:18:43.119 reception desk supervisor reported seeing Jennifer in the company of 345 00:18:43.160 --> 00:18:46.200 a dark haired man who appeared to be between thirty 346 00:18:46.200 --> 00:18:49.759 five to forty years old. However, it's possible that the 347 00:18:49.799 --> 00:18:52.640 man was not with Jennifer when she first arrived, but 348 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:54.799 was present when she went down to the lobby to 349 00:18:54.839 --> 00:18:57.240 make a currency exchange, about an hour and a half 350 00:18:57.279 --> 00:19:01.400 after she originally checked in. Whatever the case, no trace 351 00:19:01.440 --> 00:19:04.559 of this man could be found after Jennifer's death, and 352 00:19:04.599 --> 00:19:07.079 there was no record of any man named Lewis Fairgate 353 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:10.839 with Interpol or any other databases. But it was established 354 00:19:10.880 --> 00:19:13.559 that Jennifer received two key cards when she checked in, 355 00:19:14.039 --> 00:19:16.599 both of which were found inside of her room following 356 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:19.759 her death. The only fingerprints which could be found in 357 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:22.720 the room matched Jennifer, but when they were run through 358 00:19:22.759 --> 00:19:25.799 interpool there was no match and no missing persons report 359 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:29.559 on file for anyone matching her description. A review of 360 00:19:29.559 --> 00:19:32.640 airline passenger lists for all flights that arrived in Oslo 361 00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:35.720 on the night Jennifer checked into the hotel also failed 362 00:19:35.759 --> 00:19:36.839 to turn up any leads. 363 00:19:37.720 --> 00:19:41.200 It is interesting when you look at Lewis Faregate, it's 364 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:44.759 Jennifer Fairgate as well. So is she presenting as if 365 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:50.000 this person would have been her husband, her partner, her brother. 366 00:19:51.200 --> 00:19:54.359 Who is this person to her right? They have no idea. 367 00:19:54.799 --> 00:19:57.400 His name could also be fictitious. And then, like you said, 368 00:19:57.400 --> 00:20:00.440 we're not even sure that this dark haired man was 369 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:03.279 definitely linked to her right when she first arrived. So 370 00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:09.960 it's bizarre that there's so many elements of this story 371 00:20:10.039 --> 00:20:12.960 that exists. I mean, she's lied from start to finish 372 00:20:13.000 --> 00:20:16.680 about what she's doing there, who she is, and who 373 00:20:16.720 --> 00:20:20.000 she's with. So I do find it interesting that their 374 00:20:20.119 --> 00:20:23.119 name's match, and how did they find out the name? 375 00:20:23.319 --> 00:20:25.519 This is just the registration card, Like she's going to 376 00:20:25.599 --> 00:20:27.160 have this guest come check in with her. 377 00:20:27.680 --> 00:20:29.880 Yeah, when she originally made the reservation, she said she 378 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:33.759 was going to have a companion named named Lewis Fairgate. 379 00:20:33.880 --> 00:20:36.720 But of course there are conflicting reports about whether this 380 00:20:36.799 --> 00:20:40.920 man was actually with her, because the receptionist when she 381 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:43.759 checked in said that she did not see a man. Sorry, 382 00:20:43.920 --> 00:20:46.000 he did not see a man with her, But another 383 00:20:46.039 --> 00:20:48.839 cleric thought that they saw a man with Jennifer later 384 00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:51.680 on when she made a currency exchanged. But they've never 385 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:54.759 established if this man ever entered the room at any point, 386 00:20:55.079 --> 00:20:57.200 and of course, if he was with Jennifer during or 387 00:20:57.240 --> 00:20:59.200 stay in the hotel, we have no idea what happened 388 00:20:59.200 --> 00:20:59.960 to him afterwards. 389 00:21:01.400 --> 00:21:03.640 And what if he was just some random guy that 390 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:05.920 she was talking to, like while she was in line 391 00:21:05.960 --> 00:21:09.319 for the currency exchange, and the supervisor thought that they 392 00:21:09.319 --> 00:21:12.279 were together, but they were actually just in conversation. Like, 393 00:21:12.440 --> 00:21:15.799 we don't even know if this Lewis Fairgate was completely fictitious, 394 00:21:16.319 --> 00:21:18.720 if he even existed at all, Like, I mean, not 395 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:22.119 him by name, but some man that she was going 396 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:23.799 to meet exactly. 397 00:21:23.839 --> 00:21:26.400 I mean, it's possible that maybe she was playing to 398 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:28.279 check in with a man, but he didn't show up, 399 00:21:28.319 --> 00:21:30.640 and maybe that played a role in her suicide. 400 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:33.920 There also could be an underlining mental health issue where 401 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:36.839