WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.760 --> 00:00:04.280 You should know that the moon today is waxing crescent? 2 00:00:04.919 --> 00:00:05.400 Oh is it? 3 00:00:05.480 --> 00:00:08.800 Are you optimizing? Do you have an abundance mindset? I 4 00:00:08.839 --> 00:00:09.439 always have that. 5 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:13.000 Are you optimizing? But I'm not necessarily in tune with 6 00:00:13.039 --> 00:00:15.560 the moon at the moment. I have to I have 7 00:00:15.599 --> 00:00:16.160 to look into that. 8 00:00:16.160 --> 00:00:18.600 Well, right now, it's a good time to optimize and 9 00:00:18.640 --> 00:00:21.760 have an abundance mindset. As the moon, Zach Harper currently 10 00:00:21.800 --> 00:00:23.440 as of today is waxing crescent. 11 00:00:23.480 --> 00:00:24.600 Are you prepared for tonight? 12 00:00:25.559 --> 00:00:27.120 You don't have to tell me. I looked at the 13 00:00:27.160 --> 00:00:29.719 moon last night. I saw that it was about to 14 00:00:29.839 --> 00:00:31.800 wax crescent, so I knew. 15 00:00:31.879 --> 00:00:34.679 The natural follow up is are you optimizing? Do you 16 00:00:34.719 --> 00:00:35.880 have an abundance mindset? 17 00:00:36.359 --> 00:00:38.479 I always have an abundance mindset. I wake up with 18 00:00:38.520 --> 00:00:41.200 an abundance mindset. I make sure that I speak it 19 00:00:41.439 --> 00:00:44.079 into existence. I go to bed with an abundance mindset. 20 00:00:44.159 --> 00:00:47.719 I manifest, I vision board, and I do it all. 21 00:00:47.880 --> 00:00:50.640 But are you practicing feeling the feeling even though the 22 00:00:50.640 --> 00:00:51.719 thing hasn't happened yet? 23 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:53.640 Because Zach, what is meant for you will never be 24 00:00:53.719 --> 00:00:54.200 kept from you. 25 00:00:55.399 --> 00:00:56.960 Well, not only that, but I journal it. 26 00:00:57.479 --> 00:00:59.439 Oh, perfect, then you know what? 27 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:00.399 Now? You put it in practice. 28 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:02.320 I've got nothing to add. You are on your way, 29 00:01:02.359 --> 00:01:03.320 young man. I'm proud of you. 30 00:01:03.880 --> 00:01:06.000 Thank you very much. I've done a lot of practice 31 00:01:06.000 --> 00:01:06.799 with this one. 32 00:01:06.599 --> 00:01:09.159 More follow up? Are you dating with intention right now? 33 00:01:10.319 --> 00:01:10.760 You have to? 34 00:01:10.920 --> 00:01:11.359 Yeah? 35 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:13.439 Yeah, that's new, that's new. I didn't know that was 36 00:01:13.480 --> 00:01:15.760 The thing is how long? How long has this been 37 00:01:15.799 --> 00:01:16.920 going on? You need to help me out. 38 00:01:16.920 --> 00:01:17.719 I'm new on the scene. 39 00:01:17.799 --> 00:01:20.920 Oh, dating with intention, that's about I would say, like 40 00:01:21.079 --> 00:01:27.920 dating in with intention and and being in a provider 41 00:01:28.079 --> 00:01:31.359 slash protector role has been about a six to seven 42 00:01:31.400 --> 00:01:33.000 month face Ah. 43 00:01:33.200 --> 00:01:35.760 Okay, well keep your phone on you because as I'm 44 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:37.799 going through this process, I have a lot of questions. 45 00:01:37.840 --> 00:01:41.680 Okay, yeah, yeah, it's oh man, Yeah, I got I 46 00:01:41.719 --> 00:01:43.000 got you with any of that stuff. 47 00:01:43.079 --> 00:01:45.079 Okay, all right, I do I need some guidance? This 48 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:49.359 is wild? All right? Isaiah Callier's optimizing? What transition? No 49 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:51.000 big deal? All right? 50 00:01:51.040 --> 00:01:54.719 So the Jazz have sent out some media package to 51 00:01:54.799 --> 00:01:55.840 folks that are voters. 52 00:01:55.840 --> 00:01:56.400 Are you a voter? 53 00:01:56.480 --> 00:01:58.079 To you a voter? Aren't you? Yeah? 54 00:01:58.079 --> 00:02:00.000 Okay, So my guess is you receive one of these 55 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:03.640 and you know, Zach, it's the only postseason Award, the 56 00:02:03.719 --> 00:02:06.920 Jazz have any chance outside of maybe the number one 57 00:02:06.920 --> 00:02:09.840 overall pick, but we'll get there at a moment. And initially, 58 00:02:10.159 --> 00:02:12.120 like you hear like, hey, is Isaiah call your broke? 59 00:02:12.159 --> 00:02:16.000 John Stockton's assist record? Well, okay, Like John played eighteen 60 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:19.120 minutes a night his rookie year, he played behind Ricky Green, 61 00:02:19.840 --> 00:02:21.879 he had five starts, so I think it's four hundred 62 00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:25.919 and seventy assists or whatever. But ultimately for a season 63 00:02:26.240 --> 00:02:29.000 that is void in bright spots for the team. When 64 00:02:29.000 --> 00:02:32.120 you look at the rookie class this year, Isaam might 65 00:02:32.159 --> 00:02:35.319 have a case to be made for first team, maybe 66 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:36.719 second team, definitely all rookie. 67 00:02:36.759 --> 00:02:37.680 Do you think he has a chance. 68 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:40.639 I don't think he has any kind of case for 69 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:45.400 first team like that. That seems not possible to me 70 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:51.599 because I think right off the rip, you've got Castle Wells, 71 00:02:52.240 --> 00:02:58.159 Resa che Ed Sar, and then Khalil Whar's in there two. 72 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:02.759 You know, like I think six have a better case 73 00:03:02.879 --> 00:03:06.879 than he does. But then once you get past those, 74 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:09.879 second team is definitely in a mix. Like I don't 75 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:13.879 know that there is a strong case outside of those 76 00:03:14.000 --> 00:03:18.280 six that would bump him definitely out of out of 77 00:03:18.360 --> 00:03:22.439 all Rookie second team, and he's he's closed really well 78 00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:25.719 and even even though the team has been a mess, Like, 79 00:03:25.800 --> 00:03:27.520 I mean, he had a really good game the other night. 80 00:03:27.560 --> 00:03:30.800 Like he's he's playing better. You know, the shot making 81 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:35.319 is whatever, He's making decent decisions out there. The assists 82 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:37.360 have been there. You know. The scoring is kind of 83 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:40.919 in and out, but like I think you're seeing it's 84 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:42.520 it's tough to tell, but like I feel like you're 85 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:45.520 seeing some progress there, right, Like he's definitely better than 86 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:46.759 he was two months ago. 87 00:03:47.960 --> 00:03:51.520 Yeah, he's thirty two from three since the All Star breaking. Look, 88 00:03:51.560 --> 00:03:54.479 that's not awesome, but it's better than like twenty two 89 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:56.560 twenty one, which is where he was at to start 90 00:03:56.599 --> 00:03:57.120 the year. 91 00:03:57.000 --> 00:03:59.360 You know, right, Yeah, Like I don't know that the 92 00:03:59.400 --> 00:04:02.479 shot looks good, but it doesn't look atrocious. I think 93 00:04:02.520 --> 00:04:07.479 his shot decisions are better. And again, like I mean, 94 00:04:07.520 --> 00:04:09.520 I feel like we're saying the same things that we 95 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:11.919 did well, I mean, maybe not the same things we 96 00:04:11.960 --> 00:04:14.680 did with Kante George, but similar things. You know. With that, 97 00:04:14.800 --> 00:04:17.720 it was the shot looks good he's taking you know, 98 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:19.560 he creates good shots. Why aren't they going in? And 99 00:04:19.839 --> 00:04:22.480 that's what we saw at Baylor with with Collier, It's 100 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:25.600 it's a bit of a different conversation in that he 101 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:28.560 was a top prospect coming out of high school. I 102 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:31.759 think the whole USC program and experience set him back. 103 00:04:32.639 --> 00:04:35.560 And now he's trying, you know, he and the Jazz 104 00:04:35.560 --> 00:04:38.839 are trying to correct whatever that year you know, kind 105 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:41.439 of messed up for him and getting him in real 106 00:04:41.480 --> 00:04:45.040 basketball development, in a real program, in you know, a 107 00:04:45.079 --> 00:04:48.120 real abundance mindset when it comes to there you go 108 00:04:48.680 --> 00:04:52.199 and trying to correct you know, whatever stunt that that 109 00:04:52.319 --> 00:04:55.399 year had to his growth and and I do think 110 00:04:55.439 --> 00:04:58.720 it took him a little while to get into good habits. 111 00:04:58.759 --> 00:05:01.279 I think he's exhibiting good it's a good decision making 112 00:05:01.720 --> 00:05:04.519 whether the shots today or not. You're at least seeing 113 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:09.879 a much different player from just a professionalism standpoint on 114 00:05:09.920 --> 00:05:12.000 the court than what we saw in the first half 115 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:13.759 of the season. And that, I mean, if you're gonna 116 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:16.600 take anything away from this mess of the season for 117 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:18.360 the Jazz, that's a positive. 118 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:21.759 So you bring up Kyante George, who's clearly not in 119 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:26.759 the vortex. So let's let's move. I'm sorry, that's just 120 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:27.399 I can't help. 121 00:05:27.439 --> 00:05:29.639 So this is great. I would do this every radio 122 00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:31.240 hit we do for the rest of the year if 123 00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:31.560 we can. 124 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:34.120 I mean, I just you know, Kyante clearly is not 125 00:05:34.279 --> 00:05:36.759 manifesting like everything is always working out for me. 126 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:38.360 All you have to do is repeating in the mirror. 127 00:05:38.439 --> 00:05:40.920 But look, we haven't talked about Kyante in a while, 128 00:05:40.959 --> 00:05:46.040 and anecdotally, somebody down with the team about three weeks 129 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:50.600 ago said to me, like, you are higher on Keyante 130 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:54.319 than they are behind the scenes. And I'm not that 131 00:05:54.480 --> 00:05:56.680 high on Kiante. He just listens to the show. I've 132 00:05:56.720 --> 00:05:59.800 just tried to take this positive spin wherever. Since he 133 00:05:59.879 --> 00:06:02.199 was brought off the bench, maybe he's settled into the 134 00:06:02.279 --> 00:06:04.839 role that I think he always was going to settle 135 00:06:04.879 --> 00:06:08.120 into no matter what, even when he was starting, even 136 00:06:08.120 --> 00:06:09.439 when he was the starting league guard. 137 00:06:09.519 --> 00:06:10.879 Way too many bad decisions. 138 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:14.480 He might be among the worst defensive players in all 139 00:06:14.519 --> 00:06:17.480 of pro basketball. I'm getting the sense down there, Zach, 140 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:20.680 that they don't really view him as part of their future, 141 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:23.519 which is wild to think about because last year he 142 00:06:23.680 --> 00:06:26.000 was like the only young player that played well. So 143 00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:29.639 let's get up to date, Zach Harper take on the 144 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:31.720 player that clearly is not in the vortex right now, 145 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:32.720 Caante George. 146 00:06:33.279 --> 00:06:36.240 Yeah, it feels a little bit like when people talk like, oh, 147 00:06:36.279 --> 00:06:38.560 they have like a young child, and then a new 148 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:40.480 baby comes into the mix, and now that baby gets 149 00:06:40.519 --> 00:06:43.720 all the yep the attention, right like Isaiah Collier is 150 00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:45.439 the new baby, and Kanty George has kind of been 151 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:49.519 pushed aside. I feel like, look, I'm not watching every 152 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:52.800 Jazz game front to back, but I feel like when 153 00:06:52.839 --> 00:06:56.879 I check in, like some of the games he has 154 00:06:56.879 --> 00:06:59.560 off the bench, I'm like, he was pretty good. Now 155 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:04.279 the bar is very low, right, Like the bar for 156 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:07.560 him is very low, And so I don't know if 157 00:07:07.560 --> 00:07:10.079 I'm judging that, Like I gotta be honest, like, I 158 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:11.839 don't know if I'm judging that based on like what 159 00:07:11.879 --> 00:07:13.759 I expect out of a good NBA player or what 160 00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:17.120 I expect out of him in the Jazz And so 161 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:21.720 it's probably what it's probably the latter. I think there 162 00:07:21.800 --> 00:07:27.959 is a good backup guard within his future. I do 163 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:30.920 think the talent's there. The decision making has not been 164 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:34.680 there in his in his time in the league so far, 165 00:07:34.879 --> 00:07:37.519 and like he has been in the league a while 166 00:07:38.360 --> 00:07:41.680 to still be making some of these mistakes. But also, 167 00:07:42.040 --> 00:07:43.800 you know, part of it. This is gonna be a 168 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:46.959 weird comparison. But I've been taking like I've got a 169 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:51.079 bunch of friends who are Blazers fans, and they keep 170 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:54.199 like they've been complaining for three years now about Chauncey 171 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:57.240 Billups as a coach, and I keep saying, Look, I 172 00:07:57.279 --> 00:07:59.240 have no idea I Chauncey Billups as a good coach. 173 00:07:59.639 --> 00:08:01.759 I do know he's never been given a good team 174 00:08:02.319 --> 00:08:04.480 because even when he took over, like those teams were 175 00:08:04.480 --> 00:08:07.240 injured right away and so he was tanking and not 176 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:10.439 given like an actual Damian Lillard's season and not you know, 177 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:13.600 and then finally you know, the trade away and everything. 178 00:08:13.639 --> 00:08:16.040 And he's been giving teams that are that are I 179 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:19.079 guess in teardown years and then in rebuilding years, and 180 00:08:19.160 --> 00:08:20.759 so I have no idea if he can coach, like 181 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:23.279 I have no idea. We saw a good stretch with 182 00:08:23.319 --> 00:08:25.480 the Blazers this year in the second half and it 183 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:28.040 started looking promising, But I don't know if he's a 184 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:31.360 good coach. With Kianty George, the Jazz have been such 185 00:08:31.399 --> 00:08:35.679 a mess in these tear down and rebuilding years. Maybe 186 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:40.120 if you put him around actual good players, it would 187 00:08:40.159 --> 00:08:43.000 elevate his game, he wouldn't have to make so many decisions. 188 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:46.600 It would, you know, kind of everything would rise up 189 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:51.360 and kind of steady things for him. So maybe that 190 00:08:51.799 --> 00:08:55.039 is an environment he needs to be in. But man 191 00:08:55.200 --> 00:08:58.399 like it, just it do. It's not as promising as 192 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:00.720 he wanted to be. And and when you get into 193 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:03.159 the conversation of like, Okay, he could be a backup guard. 194 00:09:03.559 --> 00:09:05.840 There's a lot of backup guard options in the NBA. 195 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:10.360 Yeah, and there were moments that he showed after he 196 00:09:10.480 --> 00:09:13.519 kind of was the only young player to get starts 197 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:16.240 and minutes last year, like okay, maybe we got something here. 198 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:19.559 But yeah, to your point about Isaiah, and you can 199 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:22.039 talk about this with most of their young players, Zach. 200 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:24.080 Which is why whenever I'm asked, I'm always asked the 201 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:25.799 same question. If I go on other shows or do 202 00:09:25.879 --> 00:09:28.360 podcasts or even I'm talking to jazz fans, they always. 203 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:32.440 Say, who will be here when they're good again? 204 00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:36.360 And I honestly, at this point it's probably and I 205 00:09:36.399 --> 00:09:39.360 don't know when that's gonna be. And Marketing is in 206 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:42.240 his late twenties, Walker's about to be in his mid twenties. 207 00:09:42.720 --> 00:09:44.519 Like part of me wants to answer the question like 208 00:09:44.519 --> 00:09:47.200 there's a chance that none of these players are here 209 00:09:47.919 --> 00:09:49.879 when the Jazz are actually good again, because I have 210 00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:52.440 so many question marks about so many of them outside 211 00:09:52.440 --> 00:09:56.679 of marketing and Kessler, but because they're not close to 212 00:09:56.720 --> 00:09:59.000 being good again, I can't even say that Lowry and 213 00:09:59.039 --> 00:10:01.000 Walker will be here and the Jazz are actually good 214 00:10:01.039 --> 00:10:02.200 because I don't know when that's going to be. 215 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:06.399 Yeah, Like I guess I don't look at Lowry like 216 00:10:06.440 --> 00:10:09.840 if if they're calling this now like the actual rebuild, 217 00:10:10.039 --> 00:10:15.519 then I assume Lowry is, you know, this summer available, right, 218 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:18.080 Like I like the whole reason that with the timing 219 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:20.039 of the extension and everything was so that he wouldn't 220 00:10:20.039 --> 00:10:22.879 be traded this year. But I would assume teams are 221 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:25.159 going to be interested in him this summer and you've 222 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:28.159 got to do your due diligence to see what you 223 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:30.279 can get for him and if that helps, you know, 224 00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:33.000 bring in assets of young players or whatever Danny Ainge 225 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:36.080 and Justin Zanek are looking for. And so I wouldn't 226 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:39.879 expect him to be here long term. If that's the case, 227 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:43.720 then to me, you know, as nice as Collier has 228 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:46.000 looked recently, like to me, Walker Kessler is the only 229 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:48.840 guy who has a definite skill set for the NBA 230 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:50.759 right now, and so he's the only one that I 231 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:53.519 would say, like, yeah, he'll probably be here long term, 232 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:55.919 but I don't, Yeah, I'm with you, Like I don't, 233 00:10:56.000 --> 00:10:58.440 I don't know who that is. Like maybe if this 234 00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:01.120 kid gets healthy and and can show what he can 235 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:04.639 do defensively on the court, maybe that's Taylor, you know, 236 00:11:04.759 --> 00:11:06.559 Like I don't. I don't know, Like don't, I don't 237 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:09.000 know that they have those guys, which is kind of 238 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:11.919 tough when you've been even drafting a bunch of dudes. 239 00:11:12.039 --> 00:11:13.559 You know, in the first round of the last couple 240 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:14.799 of years. 241 00:11:14.600 --> 00:11:19.159 What is your favorite slash most accurate player comp for 242 00:11:19.240 --> 00:11:21.919 Cooper Flag. I've you know, as he has kind of 243 00:11:21.960 --> 00:11:24.200 played his way because a lot of people probably heard 244 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:26.759 the name and then hadn't watched him play much. And 245 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:29.440 then the tournament rolls around and everybody watches the tournament. 246 00:11:29.519 --> 00:11:33.240 So now you cannot log onto the intrawebs without getting 247 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:35.799 another piece and a think piece about who Cooper Flag 248 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:39.080 could be in the NBA. And sometimes the comp game 249 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:41.159 can be a little bit frustrating because it puts on 250 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:44.919 realistic expectations in the minds of fans. But this is 251 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:48.720 a market that badly is hoping this pain tolerance pays off. 252 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:50.919 And Cooper Flag is a jazz man. Of all the 253 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:53.480 comps you've heard, Zach, what lands the best for you? 254 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:56.600 Well, I saw someone passed one along to me the 255 00:11:56.639 --> 00:11:58.840 other day that they that they saw which I thought 256 00:11:58.919 --> 00:12:02.159 was insane, which was lamar Odom, which he like lamar 257 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:04.679 Odom could handle the ball. Cooper Flag dribbles like at 258 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:07.799 the football, Like I don't see that at all. But 259 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:09.960 he can pass like a He's a good pass not 260 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:12.600 like lamar Otum was, but he can pass. To me, 261 00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:17.000 I like, I'm sticking with Sean Marion. To me, he 262 00:12:17.200 --> 00:12:19.000 like he like he can shoot better than Sean Maryon. 263 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:21.720 He can pass a little bit better, But in terms 264 00:12:21.720 --> 00:12:25.799 of athlete defensive impact, getting up and down the floor, 265 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:29.159 the way he scores on the move, it reminds me 266 00:12:29.240 --> 00:12:31.840 a lot of Sean Marion, like with the Sons. 267 00:12:32.159 --> 00:12:35.600 Okay, all right, you know I've heard the Kawhi stuff. 268 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:39.600 I feel like that's probably best case, So let me 269 00:12:39.639 --> 00:12:42.559 follow up here, just because it's of interest in the market. 270 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:46.600 Sean Marion was really, really good at his peak. Okay, 271 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:53.120 but he wasn't like generationally special cornerstone building blocks. So 272 00:12:53.200 --> 00:12:56.320 do you do you believe that if Cooper stays healthy 273 00:12:56.519 --> 00:12:58.679 he turned he just turned eighteen three months ago, if 274 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:01.159 he stays healthy and is fully developed, you believe he 275 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:04.519 can maybe have a better career than Sean Marriyan. 276 00:13:04.279 --> 00:13:06.600 And actually be a building block for a team. 277 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:08.559 It's all going to depend on whether or not he 278 00:13:08.679 --> 00:13:12.919 becomes someone who can create off the dribble. He just 279 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:17.559 can't right now. I don't understand what people are seeing 280 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:21.000 when he tries to create, Like, yeah, it can work 281 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:24.519 at the college level because like no one like you 282 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:28.919 like watch him in the previous game that they played 283 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:31.639 and pay attention to this weekend, whether they beat Houston 284 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:33.600 or not. And he's from the great defensive test for 285 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:35.600 him with just the bodies they can throw it him 286 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:37.200 in the defense they can throw at him, It'll be 287 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:40.799 a great test for how he creates shots because he's 288 00:13:40.879 --> 00:13:43.960 not strong at handling the ball. So all this stuff 289 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:46.960 that he that he tries to do to create, none 290 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:49.200 of that's going to work at the NBA level. It's 291 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:51.720 all going to be set up off of his athleticism 292 00:13:51.759 --> 00:13:54.840 and in him on the move, which is fine. He's 293 00:13:54.919 --> 00:13:58.679 eighteen years old, like he's super young. He reclassified, so 294 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:00.919 he's you know, he's younger than a prick would normally be. 295 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:03.600 All this is fine, and he's got plenty of time 296 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:06.519 to develop, But in terms of people thinking of him 297 00:14:06.559 --> 00:14:09.600 as like this guy who's going to be an offensive weapon, 298 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:12.759 he can't dribble like he just he can't create a 299 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:18.120 shot against NBA level defenders consistently within the flow of 300 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:20.519 the game. And if you can't do that, I just 301 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:22.639 don't know how I'm supposed to believe that you are 302 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:27.000 a franchise level offensive player. It doesn't mean he can't 303 00:14:27.080 --> 00:14:29.519 get there. I just haven't seen it yet. There are 304 00:14:29.559 --> 00:14:31.360 times he tries to go left where he tries to 305 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:35.480 go against against like even decent you know pressure, and 306 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:37.320 he's kind of loose with the ball and he doesn't 307 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:39.679 quite get there, and so that then he can't utilize 308 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:42.399 his you know, his athleticism or his quickness. When he 309 00:14:42.600 --> 00:14:45.360 is able to get into space and you use that, 310 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:48.279 these college players can't keep up with him. That's when 311 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:50.360 he's dominant. But when he gets a little bit of 312 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:53.039 physicality and a little bit of pressure and he doesn't, 313 00:14:53.240 --> 00:14:56.120 you're not able to use that. Then you see that 314 00:14:56.240 --> 00:14:59.440 loose handle, that inability to create. That's when it's a 315 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:01.759 struggle for him. And that's what it's going to be 316 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:04.919 at the NBA level. Until he can hone that craft. 317 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:10.120 That might take a year, two years, five years. You know, 318 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:12.120 hopefully it's on the on the shorter side of that 319 00:15:12.440 --> 00:15:14.519 and he is able to become that player right away 320 00:15:14.519 --> 00:15:17.759 because he does have so many other special skills. He'll 321 00:15:17.799 --> 00:15:19.960 be a good catch and shoot guy. He'll be a 322 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:22.600 good guy who can make decisions off the short roll 323 00:15:22.639 --> 00:15:25.240 and moving the ball with the extra pass. He's going 324 00:15:25.320 --> 00:15:28.919 to be an excellent elite defender. All those things are great, 325 00:15:29.240 --> 00:15:31.480 but in terms of scoring, he's going to be limited 326 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:32.840 until he can hemle a ball. 327 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:36.360 Haberstrow this week on the show dropped the Kevin Garnett 328 00:15:36.720 --> 00:15:38.120 what do you think of that? 329 00:15:38.120 --> 00:15:41.519 That's insane? That Like it was insane when they did 330 00:15:41.559 --> 00:15:45.080 it with Anthony Davis. And is he better than Anthony 331 00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:46.480 Davis as the prospect? No? 332 00:15:47.279 --> 00:15:49.559 No, there are very few prospects that were better than 333 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:51.919 ad coming out of college. A lot of people don't, 334 00:15:52.279 --> 00:15:54.639 you know, don't remember that, all right, let's move off 335 00:15:54.679 --> 00:15:57.279 the jazz for a moment, and you know, it's just 336 00:15:57.360 --> 00:16:00.000 time to say that it is okay seeing everybody else, 337 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:03.000 and it has been for quite some time. Golden State, 338 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:05.840 what is it twenty and four with Jimmy Butler. You know, 339 00:16:05.840 --> 00:16:09.600 they beat LA last night, you know, and everybody played, 340 00:16:09.639 --> 00:16:12.039 which is always nice because it gives you an idea 341 00:16:12.080 --> 00:16:14.240 of exactly what sort of hand we've been dealt. And 342 00:16:14.279 --> 00:16:16.559 every time I lock in on a Warriors game and 343 00:16:16.679 --> 00:16:19.399 Draymond looks like Draymond blowing up sets like he was, 344 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:21.879 and of course Steph is still Steph, and you. 345 00:16:21.840 --> 00:16:23.320 Know, Jimmy's always a wild card. 346 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:26.159 But it's probably time to say that, you know, Golden 347 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:28.480 State needs to be taken a little more seriously than 348 00:16:28.559 --> 00:16:30.720 they have been prior to where we're at currently. 349 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:31.240 Is that fair? 350 00:16:32.200 --> 00:16:33.840 I think so? I mean, I think they're right on 351 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:36.240 the cuff there. You know, last night it looked better. 352 00:16:36.879 --> 00:16:41.080 But there's still plenty of games where they don't generate 353 00:16:41.120 --> 00:16:44.399 a lot of easy offense, you know, like there's it's 354 00:16:44.440 --> 00:16:49.320 still it's still like a lot of tough buckets to create. Now, 355 00:16:49.440 --> 00:16:51.759 sometimes Steph can make that easy. Sometimes Jimmy can make 356 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:54.080 that easy. And there are times where they run a 357 00:16:54.080 --> 00:16:56.919 couple of plays where you know, they'll they'll run a 358 00:16:57.039 --> 00:17:00.720 dribble handoff, or they'll run a play where where Draymond's 359 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:03.159 got the ball, you know, kind of on the elbow extended, 360 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:07.200 and Jimmy's running a pick play with Steph, and Jimmy 361 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:09.640 slips the screen because all that attention is going to 362 00:17:09.640 --> 00:17:11.799 Steph and he's got a you know, a wide open laft, 363 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:14.680 wide open dunk, and it's just like that's unguardable. I 364 00:17:14.680 --> 00:17:16.279 don't know, I don't know where you put your attention 365 00:17:16.359 --> 00:17:18.440 on that. And so they can they can get some 366 00:17:18.519 --> 00:17:20.480 easy buckets. But for the most part, I still think 367 00:17:20.839 --> 00:17:23.759 some of their offense is a slog now that can 368 00:17:24.039 --> 00:17:27.039 be held by kuminga stepping up and getting into a 369 00:17:27.079 --> 00:17:30.240 flow or you know, last night, Pachemski shot out of 370 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:32.559 his mind. He's not a shooter like that, So that 371 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:35.119 was a big bonus for them. If Buddy Healed starts 372 00:17:35.119 --> 00:17:38.240 shooting like he's supposed to be shooting, that helps a lot. 373 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:41.559 But their offense still isn't as smooth as it needs 374 00:17:41.599 --> 00:17:44.680 to be, or it has been in their previous championship years. 375 00:17:44.680 --> 00:17:48.000 But man, Their defense is elite. Their defense is so 376 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:51.279 good with Jimmy in the mix, and I think they're 377 00:17:51.400 --> 00:17:53.240 right on the cusp of being there. I mean, if 378 00:17:53.279 --> 00:17:56.799 you other than OKC you want me to like put 379 00:17:56.799 --> 00:17:59.960 them up against like a Denver or the Lakers or anybody, 380 00:18:00.200 --> 00:18:02.759 I'll put them ahead of everybody else in the West. 381 00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:05.799 It's just we got to see what okay See looks 382 00:18:05.839 --> 00:18:07.799 like in the playoffs, you know for sure. 383 00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:10.440 Let me ask you about two teams, because every week 384 00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:12.839 we do this thing where Okay, we all agree that 385 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:14.079 okay See is historic. 386 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:17.559 Okay, so Lakers get Luca. Do we like them? Of course? 387 00:18:17.640 --> 00:18:17.759 Yo? 388 00:18:17.839 --> 00:18:19.440 Kitches Yo kitch Denver's Denver. 389 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:22.519 But are you buying anything about the recent run from 390 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:26.480 either the Clippers or Kawhi's back? And I know you 391 00:18:26.519 --> 00:18:29.039 always say that clips are gonna clip? Are you buying 392 00:18:29.079 --> 00:18:31.240 anything about the recent run and play of either Clippers 393 00:18:31.319 --> 00:18:32.279 or the Timberwolves. 394 00:18:32.759 --> 00:18:36.200 I mean, the Clippers look great, right, But I mean 395 00:18:37.240 --> 00:18:39.240 we can't do this every year. I know, you know, 396 00:18:39.519 --> 00:18:42.640 like and nobody wants to believe in Kawhi being back 397 00:18:42.680 --> 00:18:44.920 more than me. I mean, he is my favorite. Like, 398 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:48.799 I love Kawhi and I want him to be healthy 399 00:18:48.839 --> 00:18:52.279 and I want to see another playoff run because he's 400 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:55.039 just I mean, he is a great show when when 401 00:18:55.079 --> 00:18:59.039