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Speaker 3: The USGA's Rules of Golf is very hard to read,
Speaker 3: but by design it is the legal explanation of the rules.
Speaker 3: And you were talking about difficulty understanding. You know, there's
Speaker 3: a ball and there's the ball, and they are completely
Speaker 3: two different things. Or you have a golfer and the
Speaker 3: golf No, technically that's the definition. You know, like I
Speaker 3: am the golfer and you are a golfer. The ball
Speaker 3: I'm playing is the ball as opposed to the one
Speaker 3: in my pocket.
Speaker 4: Which is a ball.
Speaker 3: It is very confusing. The usg does a great job
Speaker 3: at creating a definition that is the epitome of what
Speaker 3: it needs to be.
Speaker 1: The Golf Rules. Stroke Play, a fun and informative book
Speaker 1: by Richard Todd.
Speaker 2: This is Golf Smarter sharing tips and insights from golfers
Speaker 2: and golf professionals to help lower your score. It's worked
Speaker 2: for your host, Fred Green.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Golf Smarter Podcast. Richard.
Speaker 4: Hey, Fred, it's great to be on.
Speaker 1: Thanks, thank you. So you've written this cute little book.
Speaker 1: But you're not an author, you're not a golf instructor.
Speaker 1: You're a guy with a job like all of us.
Speaker 1: But you had this need to write a book about
Speaker 1: golf rules.
Speaker 3: Why I did? I, Like many golfers, I tried to
Speaker 3: get through the USGA's rule book.
Speaker 4: Uh it's I know, I know.
Speaker 3: Well, actually, I guess I should say, like many most
Speaker 3: people don't own a copy, let alone crack it open.
Speaker 3: But I tried several times in my life to get
Speaker 3: through the book. And the last time was about three
Speaker 3: years ago, and I had read the section on tending
Speaker 3: the flagstick and immediately flashback thirty years to me being
Speaker 3: a teen and my dad taking me out with his
Speaker 3: friends for the very first time on the course. You know,
Speaker 3: of course, that's one of those wonderful times where you
Speaker 3: really feel proud because the old man's showing you off
Speaker 3: to his friends and the first tea, you know, had
Speaker 3: the jitters.
Speaker 4: But kept it in the faraway.
Speaker 3: You're going, well, I'm on the first green, I'm tending
Speaker 3: the flagstick. My dad's just off the green, and of
Speaker 3: course he sculls it. It's going for a bee line
Speaker 3: for the hole, and I start pulling the stick out
Speaker 3: and he starts yelling me to throw it back in
Speaker 3: because he's hoping for that ricochet, and of course that
Speaker 3: doesn't happen. And what does happen is the ball shoots
Speaker 3: right off the green and down the hill because it
Speaker 3: was a hilltop green. And at that point he proceeds
Speaker 3: to tell me how happy he is that I'm here
Speaker 3: intending the flagstick. Everybody in the group heard him. People
Speaker 3: on the course I think, heard his comments to me,
Speaker 3: And at that point, you know, I'm feeling less than
Speaker 3: a caddy, just I shouldn't even be on the course.
Speaker 3: So again, flash forward back to thirty years. I read
Speaker 3: this section and realize I was right, he was wrong,
Speaker 3: but it stayed with me for thirty years. At that point,
Speaker 3: I said, there's got to be a better way of
Speaker 3: learning the rules than from somebody telling you, because that
Speaker 3: somebody generally heard it from somebody else who heard it
Speaker 3: from somebody else who did not hear it from an
Speaker 3: authority figure who knows the rules right right, And so
Speaker 3: I said, well, that story in itself is a great
Speaker 3: example for this rule. Well why don't I do that
Speaker 3: for all the rules? And one thing led to another,
Speaker 3: and three years later we have the Golf.
Speaker 1: Rules as opposed to the Rules of Golf, which is
Speaker 1: the USGA's book. And you know, you're absolutely right. I
Speaker 1: have it sitting on my desk, the Rules of Golf,
Speaker 1: the twenty twelve, twenty fifteen version, and I've never opened
Speaker 1: it because a couple of years ago I try, I
Speaker 1: opened up the rule It's like, you know, I should
Speaker 1: know this stuff, and I started in like I can't
Speaker 1: get through this. I have no idea what they're talking about.
Speaker 1: You know, it just didn't. It didn't sit with me.
Speaker 1: I couldn't absorb it. But when I read your book,
Speaker 1: everything changed all of a sudden, all these rules, everything
Speaker 1: was in context of a round of golf, and I
Speaker 1: started recognizing things that I've been through and that people say,
Speaker 1: what's the rule on that fred because they think I
Speaker 1: would know, and I'm.
Speaker 5: Like, oh, exactly, So, then how how did it come
Speaker 5: to be that you wrote the book as a story.
Speaker 3: That first thought of the example, and then I just
Speaker 3: started putting more and more together, and I'm thinking, well,
Speaker 3: how can I blend this into a story as opposed
Speaker 3: to just, you know, two hundred and fifty examples, because
Speaker 3: that's out there and that's boring, and it just hit me.
Speaker 3: So I've been golfing for thirty some years and I've
Speaker 3: got lots of experiences, so it wasn't too hard to
Speaker 3: piece them all together. Although this book, when you talk
Speaker 3: about writing it, I didn't do it in a real
Speaker 3: systematic way. I had the rules of or, I had
Speaker 3: the USGA's Rules of Golf sitting open. I had notes
Speaker 3: on what I wanted to do. I had the decisions
Speaker 3: on the rules of Golf open, and I had a
Speaker 3: notepad and I wrote this out old school with paper
Speaker 3: and pencil, and I'm constantly flipping pages back and forth.
Speaker 3: And of course I had scorecards laying around because I
Speaker 3: was trying to come up with ideas for whole layouts.
Speaker 3: And it took a while. But you're right, the USGA's
Speaker 3: Rules of Golf is very hard to read it, but
Speaker 3: by design it is the legal explanation of the rules
Speaker 3: and you were talking about difficulty understanding. You know, there's
Speaker 3: a ball and there's the ball, and they come they
Speaker 3: are completely two different things.
Speaker 4: Or you have a a golfer and the golf.
Speaker 3: No, technically that's that's the definitely you know, like I
Speaker 3: am the golfer and you are a golfer. The ball
Speaker 3: I'm playing is the ball as opposed to the one
Speaker 3: in my pocket, which is a ball.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that you've just Okay, that clarified that
Speaker 1: I had no idea.
Speaker 4: Awesome, Yes, geez, it's very It is very confusing.
Speaker 3: You know. The USGA does a great job at creating
Speaker 3: a definition that, shall we say, is the epitome of
Speaker 3: what it needs to be.
Speaker 4: It explains.
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, in two days, I'll be
Speaker 3: heading up to Detroit for the USGA's rules schools. I'm
Speaker 3: putting my little air quotes in the air. It's four
Speaker 3: days of in depth fun going through the rule book.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. And even after.
Speaker 1: Does this open to anybody? Can go to this?
Speaker 4: Yes, you can go to the USG's website sign up they.
Speaker 1: Have that will be a party. I can tell you
Speaker 1: there's gonna be guys who are are gonna just be
Speaker 1: drinking their break. Really a bunch of guys who are
Speaker 1: signing up to go hear about the rules that are.
Speaker 4: Not it's oh well, it's a it's a diverse group.
Speaker 3: Last year and you know, I was in Pittsburgh and now,
Speaker 3: most of the play people in the room are.
Speaker 4: Of course pros.
Speaker 3: There was somebody from the Big Break, individual from the
Speaker 3: Golf Channel tour. We even had USGA Hall of Fame
Speaker 3: members in the group as well as tour officials.
Speaker 4: So the level is is pretty up there.
Speaker 3: Although there was a gentleman that had yet to complete
Speaker 3: a single round of golf.
Speaker 1: No, so.
Speaker 4: Of course he had the most questions.
Speaker 1: Of course, but it's like put it to use, you'll
Speaker 1: figure it out. So are you a rules freak? Do
Speaker 1: you love rules? Do you love golf rules? I do?
Speaker 3: And also part of my day job is I'm a
Speaker 3: banking compliance manager.
Speaker 1: Oh so you're a golf compliance manager.
Speaker 4: On the course you're putting it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you're on the courus you are the compliance guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And do you call people out on stuff all the time?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: That was one of the things that when people heard
Speaker 3: I was going to the school, They're like, oh, great,
Speaker 3: you're going to be one of those guys that nobody
Speaker 3: wants to golf.
Speaker 1: With, right, because I won't play with you if that's.
Speaker 4: Golf is as you know, it's it's a game for yourself.
Speaker 3: Although if I'm playing with three other of my friends
Speaker 3: and they're rolling their ball out of every divot and
Speaker 3: they're not counting strokes in the pond, it's not an
Speaker 3: even game.
Speaker 4: And it's funny. Yeah, yeah, so many people.
Speaker 3: It's irrelevant of how long you've been playing or how
Speaker 3: good you're playing knowing the rules. This summer I was
Speaker 3: playing with a friend of mine, just so you know.
Speaker 3: He's a NASA engineer, so he's no dummy.
Speaker 1: He's another so an engineer, so he's another complaint type
Speaker 1: of guy.
Speaker 4: Yes, but not about golf.
Speaker 3: He still has his golf bank he had in high school,
Speaker 3: which is he got from his dad. So it's the
Speaker 3: old leather golf bag and the clubs to match. We
Speaker 3: were on the third hole and he put one end
Speaker 3: of the lake and he looked at me and he says,
Speaker 3: what do I do? How do I score?
Speaker 4: That? He had no idea. Interesting, my dad called me up.
Speaker 3: My dad's been a scratch golfer He's been on leagues
Speaker 3: at least twice a week his entire life. One of
Speaker 3: his playing partners used to play at Ohio State and
Speaker 3: he was telling me about being an embedded lie and
Speaker 3: it took him four strokes to get out and he
Speaker 3: finished getting onto the green. His playing partner said, well,
Speaker 3: why didn't you just pick it up and drop it?
Speaker 3: He goes, I didn't know I could. So you never know, You.
Speaker 1: Never know, you never know. Well, now that you said that,
Speaker 1: I think it's a good opportunity for a teaching This
Speaker 1: is a good teaching opportunity. Here tell us what happens
Speaker 1: when you hit the ball in the water.
Speaker 3: Well, there are I believe four options now I write it.
Speaker 4: I don't have it all quite memorized. Of course you can.
Speaker 4: You can go back to the tee and play stroking distance.
Speaker 4: There's oh I'm having.
Speaker 1: A okay, but waite define stroking distance here if you
Speaker 1: have to go back to the tee. And I see,
Speaker 1: I'm obviously had that wrong in my head. I thought
Speaker 1: stroking distance is you'll take the distance where the ball
Speaker 1: went out, you pull it out, you just hit from
Speaker 1: right there, but you're hitting your third shot.
Speaker 4: Is that stroking distance, no stroking distances. You go all
Speaker 4: the way back to where you hit it, and you
Speaker 4: count the stroke.
Speaker 1: But so you're going all the way back to where
Speaker 1: you hit it from and you're hitting your shot, but
Speaker 1: you're not hitting your second shot. You're hitting your third
Speaker 1: shot correct. You count the penalty, you count the ball
Speaker 1: in the water, you count pulling it out, and then
Speaker 1: you count correct and then you count your next struck.
Speaker 4: Right, and that that goes.
Speaker 3: And let's let's pretend it's lost in the trees and
Speaker 3: you know a general area where it went in. But
Speaker 3: if you can't find it within your five minutes, it's a.
Speaker 4: Lost ball and you have to go back to the
Speaker 4: tea box.
Speaker 3: And you know, let's not get into the slow play
Speaker 3: issue there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but or what marshalls do or don't.
Speaker 3: Do, right, I don't think I've ever seen anybody actually
Speaker 3: drive back or walk back two hundred yards to the
Speaker 3: tea box to hit again.
Speaker 1: You know, Well, that's what a provisional, that's what a
Speaker 1: provisional is all about. So you hit it, you like, oops,
Speaker 1: I think it's in the bush, it's in the trees
Speaker 1: over there, but I don't know if I'm going to
Speaker 1: find it, I might, but I'm going to hit another
Speaker 1: ball just in case I'm hitting. You announced to the group, right,
Speaker 1: This is part of the roles, part of the rules.
Speaker 1: You have to announce to your group. I am hitting
Speaker 1: a provisional, which to me, i'm hitting a pro v
Speaker 1: one provisional I'm hitting. That's why I won't play with
Speaker 1: those balls. It's like I might hitting provisionals. So all right,
Speaker 1: so now you're hitting the provisional. But if you don't
Speaker 1: find the first ball, and you better know what ball
Speaker 1: you're playing, then you've got to then you're hitting your
Speaker 1: third stroke.
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, exactly.
Speaker 1: Glad I have that right. So then what what is
Speaker 1: when do you get to say, all right, well, I
Speaker 1: lost my ball over here, or it's not to be found,
Speaker 1: or I hit it just beyond the out of bounds
Speaker 1: line here and just pull it no closer to the hole.
Speaker 1: But hit from that general area? Is that not? Is
Speaker 1: that cheating?
Speaker 3: Well, if you're talking out of bounds, yeah, there's no
Speaker 3: dropping near.
Speaker 4: It's go back.
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh is this a lateral? Are we talking about
Speaker 1: a lateral? What's a hazard?
Speaker 3: Is it a red steak or a yellow steak? Well,
Speaker 3: red steak is rare. I don't know what yellow means.
Speaker 1: We get red and white out here.
Speaker 4: Oh really, okay, I've never seen anyellow steak. Wait so yeah,
Speaker 4: it gets very confusing as you can see.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so wait now we don't know if what
Speaker 1: when you take a if it's a lateral hazard, what
Speaker 1: does that mean? Do you know you can You didn't
Speaker 1: write the rules of golf. You wrote the golf rules.
Speaker 3: Right, which explains them like a lateral hazards. So we've
Speaker 3: got the stroke and distance and go back. You can
Speaker 3: drop behind the lateral hazard on a line from the
Speaker 3: flagstick to where you're at. But depending on how that
Speaker 3: creek moves, you could be farther back than the tea box.
Speaker 1: Isn't it where the ball goes over when it when
Speaker 1: it crosses the out of bounds or that area. Really
Speaker 1: they're sitting here.
Speaker 3: There's yeah, I know, I know, there's no there's no
Speaker 3: line of flight rule.
Speaker 4: Really mm hmm.
Speaker 1: People have been making that up. I mean the guys
Speaker 1: that I play with, it's like, you can't go any
Speaker 1: closer to the hall. You got to go in the
Speaker 1: line where it was like, really.
Speaker 4: Oh boy, I might be confusing my water hazards up
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 1: Okay, but yes, sorry to put you on the spot then,
Speaker 1: so okay, okay, So then let's talk about how this
Speaker 1: book reads, because I don't want to put you on
Speaker 1: the spot because I want to We're gonna we're going
Speaker 1: to do a part two of this conversation and we're
Speaker 1: going to get into some of these rules. So you
Speaker 1: better you better hone up quickly because we got about
Speaker 1: five more minutes and then we're going to head into
Speaker 1: a uh part two of this conversation. Are you gonna
Speaker 1: have time for that?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's great, okay, good, so, so so tell
Speaker 1: me how you you laid it out. So these are
Speaker 1: not this is not an actual round of golf. Your
Speaker 1: book doesn't. It's just like compiling all these different rounds
Speaker 1: that you had in all these different moments where people
Speaker 1: didn't follow the rules. I almost sad cheated they didn't
Speaker 1: follow the rules according to the rules of golf, and
Speaker 1: someone gets called on it. So explain because I love this.
Speaker 1: Is what I loved about your book, is it put
Speaker 1: it in context. And then you at the end of
Speaker 1: each chapter, which there are eighteen because it's a round
Speaker 1: of golf, right, right. So then at the end of
Speaker 1: each chapter you have the footnotes to everything that you
Speaker 1: mark throughout the throughout the book. It's like here, I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm on page ten and he said I'll hit first.
Speaker 1: Dick spoke up since I have the lowest handicap, and
Speaker 1: then in parentheses you have C one dot three see
Speaker 1: one dot four. And then you go to the end
Speaker 1: of the chapter and says see one dot three. The
Speaker 1: order of play on the first hole is decided randomly
Speaker 1: by the lot. The person with the lowest score thereafter
Speaker 1: goes first has honors on the next hole, and then
Speaker 1: see one dot four. Order of play does not include
Speaker 1: handicap strokes, only the actual number of strokes on a hole.
Speaker 1: So it's like, oh, you know, it's like and I
Speaker 1: have an issue with the honors rule as it is,
Speaker 1: but that's my own kind of weirdness. But that's how
Speaker 1: the book works. And in through the eighteen chapters you
Speaker 1: pretty much cover all the rules.
Speaker 4: Right, yes, in a stroke play.
Speaker 1: In stroke well, this book is called the Golf Rolls
Speaker 1: stroke Play.
Speaker 3: Right, And of course you can't have stroke play and
Speaker 3: match play at the same time, but want to make
Speaker 3: that distinction because We've got two more books coming out.
Speaker 3: The next one's on golf eatiquette, and the one after
Speaker 3: that is on match play.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, good, thanks for letting me know. And I
Speaker 1: have a friend who does that every time goes aha,
Speaker 1: I beat you on that hole. That's the first hole
Speaker 1: I beat you on, but I'm down by nine strokes.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like he plays both match and stroke
Speaker 1: play on every round we play.
Speaker 3: You can't do that, well, I suppose you could have
Speaker 3: two different games going, two different set of roles playing
Speaker 3: at the same time.
Speaker 4: He's just trying to Can you play uno and poker
Speaker 4: at the same time?
Speaker 1: No, come, you can't know that. Well, we don't play
Speaker 1: for money anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 4: That's interested in the book too?
Speaker 1: What playing for money?
Speaker 4: Yes, USG of course has comments on that.
Speaker 1: And and go ahead explain.
Speaker 3: All wagering and bettering must be done and agreed upon
Speaker 3: before the round starts.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the way I feel about all rules for
Speaker 1: the for a round of golf. Everyone agreed before we
Speaker 1: get started. Let's just agree that, you know, like anything
Speaker 1: inside the leathers a gimme. Okay, fine, you know, it's
Speaker 1: like as long as we agree on these things and
Speaker 1: you can't go oh wait and now on the third hole,
Speaker 1: Oh wait, I got another one. No, no, no, you can't
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 4: You know that.
Speaker 3: That's an interesting point. This gets down to knowing the
Speaker 3: rules and following the rules and what you're comfortable with
Speaker 3: the actual rules. Say, you can't agree to not follow
Speaker 3: a rule. That's disqualification. So what you just said would
Speaker 3: means everybody in your group would be disqualified from what, Well,
Speaker 3: there's not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you really don't have a big pride, But I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about competitive play, the local championship that
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm just talking about a round of golf
Speaker 1: on Saturday with my buddies.
Speaker 4: And it's like nothing, Yeah, you can do that. You
Speaker 4: can definitely do that.
Speaker 3: You know whatever, you Golf is a game of fun,
Speaker 3: it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1: Just don't play with a compliance guy.
Speaker 3: You know he may agree to that, but you know,
Speaker 3: don't try to post your scores as a as a
Speaker 3: handicap for your for your handicap calculations.
Speaker 1: Oops, what's your favorite rule that you love to call out?
Speaker 1: Do you have one that you like you see all
Speaker 1: the time and go, you know you you really can't
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna go with my son's
Speaker 3: favorite rule, and that's do not give advice. And he
Speaker 3: uses that because my father won't shut up the course
Speaker 3: pro you know, of course that doesn't know any of
Speaker 3: the rules, is always giving advice. So my son likes
Speaker 3: to tack on two strokes every time he opens his mouth.
Speaker 1: So wait, is that an official rule that you cannot
Speaker 1: give advice?
Speaker 4: Yes, it is a two stroke pel.
Speaker 1: Really, because I've got a guy who's telling you what
Speaker 1: to do all the time, you just want to go
Speaker 1: leave me alone.
Speaker 4: Yes, rememborize that rule number I don't have a memory.
Speaker 1: It's a two stroke penalty. Oh, David, you are me? Okay,
Speaker 1: this is we're interviewing Richard. David is the guy I
Speaker 1: was just talking about. It's so so I got to
Speaker 1: ask you one last thing before we wrap this part up.
Speaker 1: You're you've been listening to Golf Smarter.
Speaker 4: You've heard it.
Speaker 3: Yes, I've been listening for nine years. I've heard I've
Speaker 3: heard every episode you've ever done.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, thank you really okay, thank you, that's very matter.
Speaker 3: In fact, you've mentioned you've mentioned me four times throughout
Speaker 3: your career.
Speaker 1: You've got a scorecard on that. That's very funny. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you, well, I got to say, because this book
Speaker 1: is the foursome that you have in this book is
Speaker 1: your son, your dad, right you?
Speaker 4: Yes? And me and my brother in law and.
Speaker 1: Your brother in law. Okay, so it's a family affair here,
Speaker 1: and you did a very nice job. I got to say,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of freaked out by this. But you dedicated
Speaker 1: the book to your dad and your son, and your
Speaker 1: daughter and your wife for being so supportive. Why, Richard,
Speaker 1: why would you possibly include beyond your your wife, your daughter,
Speaker 1: your son, your father. Why did you dedicate the book
Speaker 1: to me? I was so blown away when I saw that.
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, you listened to a podcast, But what
Speaker 1: did I do?
Speaker 4: Well? You know, as it says in You've done a
Speaker 4: number of things.
Speaker 3: You provide such great content that's.
Speaker 4: So wide in variety.
Speaker 3: You know, I loved listening to the caddies that have
Speaker 3: played all over the world and hearing talks behind the
Speaker 3: ropes as well as new products and inventions. But really,
Speaker 3: the last line you did help me to drop twenty strokes?
Speaker 1: How is that possible? I never I've never played with you.
Speaker 1: I've never held the club for you.
Speaker 3: One of your podcasts made a very simple comment. It
Speaker 3: was really off the cuff. May have him been by
Speaker 3: Martin Chuck. I'm not sure, but my dad, despite him
Speaker 3: being such a great golfer, gave me no lessons, and
Speaker 3: he was left handed and I'm not so he probably.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't have helped anyhow.
Speaker 3: But you've the Golf Smarter podcast has been very enjoyable.
Speaker 4: We'll go to share please being a friend. Wow, what
Speaker 4: that tip was?
Speaker 1: Do you know?
Speaker 4: Do you remember? Oh?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, but it's going to make me sound like a
Speaker 3: terrible golfer. I didn't realize that.
Speaker 1: You just said you dropped twenty strokes.
Speaker 4: Sorry, I was really, really, really bad.
Speaker 3: It was about this swing plane being circular and not.
Speaker 3: You know, you don't hit on a straight path to
Speaker 3: make the ball go straight. That was always my interpretation.
Speaker 3: So I literally my swing path was almost straight down
Speaker 3: the line, and that's why it's a terrible hook slice.
Speaker 1: Oh so then you you you just went out and
Speaker 1: realized that and started doing a different swing path, and
Speaker 1: you and your game changed dramatically.
Speaker 4: Yep, along with other things that you've mentioned. You know,
Speaker 4: just relaxing.
Speaker 1: It's not that I mentioned Richard Richard. I never mentioned
Speaker 1: these other people. I'm just asking questions.
Speaker 4: Okay, well, thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm I am. I am so humbled and flattered by
Speaker 1: by the dedication. I can't tell you how it was
Speaker 1: nice enough you to write in my copy of the book,
Speaker 1: but then to read on and went what my name's
Speaker 1: in print? That just blew me away. And I thank
Speaker 1: you very very much. And and that's not why I
Speaker 1: had you on the show to talk about me, But
Speaker 1: I really really did enjoy your book, and I think
Speaker 1: it's a valuable collection, a valuable piece for everybody's book
Speaker 1: collection because in this simple read, and again it's not
Speaker 1: even one hundred pages, you're going to get clarification on
Speaker 1: so many things that have come up in your rounds,
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, and it makes so much sense.
Speaker 1: So congratulations on really putting a very good book together.
Speaker 4: Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: All Right, so now I'm going to have you read
Speaker 1: it to yourself really quickly, because we're going to go
Speaker 1: back into this conversation and we are gonna talk about rules,
Speaker 1: specific rules, and that'll be part two. The book is
Speaker 1: available in our Golfers Maart via Amazon. Is there a
Speaker 1: digital version of it? You just need to have it
Speaker 1: in your library.
Speaker 4: There is an ebook available.
Speaker 1: Awesome, so you can get it for your kindle type
Speaker 1: of thing.
Speaker 4: Yes, awesome.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you can do that and you can get
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Speaker 3: Right absolutely, We're on Facebook, Twitter, there's a YouTube, book trailer,
Speaker 3: and we have a blog. All of that can be
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Speaker 1: To spring Off Richard, thanks so much for again for
Speaker 1: the kind words and for joining us here.
Speaker 4: My pleasure for it. Thanks so much,