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<v Speaker 1>What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're getting right back to

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton and his transcript from his conversation with Congress.

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<v Speaker 1>We had additional members join us in the interim. Could

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<v Speaker 1>that member just identify themselves? Answer, absolutely. Hello, Mr. President.

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<v Speaker 1>My name's Nick Langworthy. I'm representing New York's 23rd Congressional District.

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo suburbs at rural southern tier. Thank you for being

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<v Speaker 1>here today. Question by a lawyer. Could we just, for

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<v Speaker 1>the record, do a time check? Answer. We've got about

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes left in this round. That's right. Answer. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much. Bill Clinton. I think it's fine. Congressman,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you? Question. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for being here and for your time today. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for your service. As you know, in the files that

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<v Speaker 1>were released, there were several photos, included you. And we

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<v Speaker 1>have an exhibit here that's just one of the photos,

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<v Speaker 1>Exhibit K, Minority Exhibit K. Bill Clinton, yep. Question. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>half that passed around. What we're trying to get at

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<v Speaker 1>is some context for the public on whether you remember

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<v Speaker 1>this photo and any details you may be able to

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<v Speaker 1>provide us about it. Do you recall the details of

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<v Speaker 1>this photo or recall the photo being taken? Answer, no.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I ever knew that photo was taken. Question, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>For those of us who can't see it, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>photo of you in a hot tub. There's a person

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<v Speaker 1>next to you here. Do you remember where it was taken?

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<v Speaker 1>As with whom? Answer, I do. Question, where was it taken? Answer,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm almost sure that this was taken. I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>an adjacent photograph, which you probably have, that if people

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<v Speaker 1>thought they would feel that someone was trying to con them,

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<v Speaker 1>showing them this picture. But anyway, this picture was taken

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<v Speaker 1>in Brunei. We flew one night on the trip to Asia,

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<v Speaker 1>that last very long leg. Question, okay, you said we,

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<v Speaker 1>who's that including? Clinton, well, my tell team, that was working.

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<v Speaker 1>On the AIDS issue, Mr. Epstein was there, and Ms. Maxwell,

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<v Speaker 1>but anyway, we got to the end of, the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the flight, was Brunei. It's a tiny place, but

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<v Speaker 1>a very wealthy one. The Sultan of Brunei was a

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<v Speaker 1>man that I had gotten to know well in my

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<v Speaker 1>eight years as president. His involvement with the International Matters

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<v Speaker 1>was basically to join Asian Pacific Economic Leaders Conference, which

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<v Speaker 1>I started and which he attended. He was very proud

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<v Speaker 1>of that. And his time came to host it. You

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<v Speaker 1>do these things in rotation. It came either at the

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<v Speaker 1>very end of my term or maybe the next year. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>when he knew I was coming and he said he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to help with my AIDS initiative and he invited

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<v Speaker 1>me to stay there, he said, but I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to stay at this hotel. And I hope that you'll

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<v Speaker 1>use our pool. So I did. And then I got

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<v Speaker 1>out and went to bed exhausted. Question, just for the record,

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<v Speaker 1>there's another picture that also shows this as part of

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<v Speaker 1>a larger pool area. Do you all have that so

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<v Speaker 1>he can refresh his recollection with respect to that? Clinton,

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<v Speaker 1>we should have it. It's quite enlightening. Then there's some

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth about the picture. Question, thanks. I just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to make sure that he knew the content. Clinton's lawyer,

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<v Speaker 1>were there other people in the pool or hot tub

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<v Speaker 1>with you as well? Clinton, I don't think there was

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<v Speaker 1>anybody in the hot tub. I then forgotten that there

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<v Speaker 1>was anybody in the hot tub, but it was big. Question,

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<v Speaker 1>he's asking you about the pool area. Clinton, inaudible. It

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<v Speaker 1>appears in this photo there's a girl over here. There's someone.

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton jumps in. Yeah, I don't know who that is. Question,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's also asking, in the pool area, were there

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<v Speaker 1>other individuals? Answer, yeah, I don't know who that is. Question, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you don't know. Answer, no. And then there were

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<v Speaker 1>other people in the pool. Question, so do you remember?

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<v Speaker 1>Were they under 18? Would you know? Answer, no. Question,

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<v Speaker 1>were they part of your traveling party? He's asking you.

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<v Speaker 1>His lawyer jumps in. Answer by Clinton, yeah, they were.

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<v Speaker 1>I think everybody that was part of our party. It

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<v Speaker 1>was late at night or late-ish. And I also believe

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<v Speaker 1>that there was secret service agent there at the other

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<v Speaker 1>end of the pool. Question, okay. And was this in public? Answer, no.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a hotel room. And he wanted us to

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<v Speaker 1>stay there. And the hole, the water, this big pool

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<v Speaker 1>was on the same floor. And there were several suites.

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<v Speaker 1>So we went out. I swam around. I sat in

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<v Speaker 1>the hot tub for five minutes or whatever it was.

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<v Speaker 1>And I got up and went to bed. Question, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I have to ask you this. Did you engage

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<v Speaker 1>in any sexual activity with this person? Answer, no. Question, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Okay. Question, and that ends this round, and

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<v Speaker 1>we can go off record. They go off, and now

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<v Speaker 1>they're back. Jack Emmer, all right, we'll go back on

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<v Speaker 1>the record. Thank you for that. I appreciate it. Clinton's lawyers.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll start with inaudible. Question now from an unnamed speaker. Wonderful. Hello, Mr. President.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you? Bill Clinton, fine. Question, good. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for being with us today. Clinton, excuse me

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<v Speaker 1>for being hoarse. Question, oh, you're fine, Mr. President. Mr. President,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make my questions as quick and as

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<v Speaker 1>painless as possible so we can move on with the

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<v Speaker 1>day and hopefully not keep you here for too long.

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<v Speaker 1>First question I have for you, Mr. President, have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever lied in a deposition? Clinton, no. Question, have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever lied while under oath? Clinton, no. Question, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you personally aware that Jeffrey Epstein visited the White

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<v Speaker 1>House 17 times during your presidency? Answer, at the time

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<v Speaker 1>it happened. Question, yes. Answer, no, not at the time

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<v Speaker 1>it happened. I was not. Question, so Jeffrey Epstein never

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<v Speaker 1>asked to meet you personally in the White House while

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<v Speaker 1>you were president during those 17 visits? Answer, not to

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<v Speaker 1>my knowledge. Question, would you know who he was meeting with? Answer, no.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know he was coming. Question, is that standard

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<v Speaker 1>protocol for the president not to know of someone who

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<v Speaker 1>is visiting the White House 17 times? Clinton's lawyer jumps in.

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<v Speaker 1>So wait, excuse me, just to be clear. The White

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<v Speaker 1>House office, which has 1,600 employees? You're speaking of the

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<v Speaker 1>White House office, yeah? Answer, yes. Question, okay. Bill Clinton, no.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that most presidents don't have a clue who's

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<v Speaker 1>coming in every day, unless it's somebody of personal interest

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<v Speaker 1>to the president. Question, yes. And you did have a

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<v Speaker 1>familiar relationship with Epstein, is that correct? Answer, no. I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't aware I'd ever met Epstein when I was president. Question,

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<v Speaker 1>while you were president. We're trying to establish if Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein was a foreign, or potentially even a domestic asset

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<v Speaker 1>of some kind. Do you have any reason to believe

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<v Speaker 1>that he was trying to seek access to classified material,

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<v Speaker 1>intelligence reports, or sensitive government information? Answer, no, I knew

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<v Speaker 1>nothing about this story until it came up. I was

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<v Speaker 1>glad to see that the picture of gets cut off. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mr. President, sorry to interrupt you, Mr. President, since

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<v Speaker 1>knowing Jeffrey Epstein and knowing that he had visited the

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<v Speaker 1>White House, were there any conversations from your associates any

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<v Speaker 1>White House staff or anyone familiar with the meetings that

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<v Speaker 1>said he was seeking detailed information about government relationships? His

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<v Speaker 1>lawyer jumps in. Does that question relate to back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day or now? What's the time of the question?

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<v Speaker 1>Question I'm asking since you have been aware anytime since

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<v Speaker 1>after you were aware that Jeffrey Epstein visited the White

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<v Speaker 1>House 17 times. Has there been any conversation with anyone?

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<v Speaker 1>That you were aware that Jeffrey Epstein was seeking sensitive

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<v Speaker 1>government information? Lawyer jumps in. She's asking to the best

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<v Speaker 1>of your recollection. Clinton. To the best of my knowledge, no. Question. Yes, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. And moving on. At any time, while you

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<v Speaker 1>were traveling on any aircraft, owned, leased, or otherwise affiliated

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<v Speaker 1>with Jeffrey Epstein, did you engage in sexual relations or

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<v Speaker 1>sexual activity with anyone other than your wife? Answer. No. Question. No.

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<v Speaker 1>During any such flight, did you witness or have knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>of any other individual engaging in sexual activities with female passengers? Answer, no. Question,

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<v Speaker 1>in 2002, you participated in a 10-day multi-country trip to

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<v Speaker 1>Africa while traveling on a Boeing 727 owned by Mr. Epstein.

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<v Speaker 1>The trip was organized by Glenn Maxwell. Do you recall

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<v Speaker 1>this trip, Mr. President? Answer, I recall the trip, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that it was organized by Glenn Maxwell. Speaker, yes, sir. Question,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe we were going to places that I needed

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<v Speaker 1>to go for my work in Africa. Question, yes sir.

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<v Speaker 1>Internal FBI records describe the aircraft as having a section

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<v Speaker 1>with couches adjacent to, with a sliding glass door leading

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<v Speaker 1>to another compartment. There was a bed. Are you familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with the layout of this aircraft that you traveled on? Answer,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm familiar with the fact that there was a bench

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<v Speaker 1>to turn into a bed at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>passenger seats. The fact that he's playing coy here is hilarious. Considering...

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<v Speaker 1>He had a favorite seat on the plane. Question, and

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<v Speaker 1>no other bed you were familiar with? Did you ever

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<v Speaker 1>go into any other part of the aircraft with a

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<v Speaker 1>bed that you perhaps lied on or utilized? Answer, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with the bench. It turned into a bed. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe I ever went into the back section. Question,

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<v Speaker 1>and at any time while traveling on such aircraft, do

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<v Speaker 1>you remember utilizing either the bench that laid? I'll keep

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<v Speaker 1>it as one option for now. Do you remember utilizing

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<v Speaker 1>the bench as a bed? Was it laid down as

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<v Speaker 1>a bed? Answer if you remember, his lawyer says. Clinton,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember, but that doesn't mean I didn't. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with the note. Question, yes, sir. FBI internal records

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<v Speaker 1>relay testimony from Dr. Greg Bledsoe, who participated on the

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<v Speaker 1>2002 Africa trip. Did Dr. Bledsoe describe multiple millionaires? Dr.

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<v Speaker 1>Bledsoe doesn't. describe multiple millionaires and billionaires on the plane.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember any of the names of those individuals,

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<v Speaker 1>potentially even the actor Kevin Spacey? Clinton, yeah, Kevin was

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<v Speaker 1>on the plane. Question, he also describes multiple young women

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<v Speaker 1>were present on the flights and that Maxwell appeared to

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<v Speaker 1>be in a position over the girls on the plane.

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<v Speaker 1>and was directing the girls. Can you describe the purpose

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<v Speaker 1>of these women participating in this multi-country trip? His lawyer

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<v Speaker 1>jumps in, objection to the form of the question. No

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<v Speaker 1>objection to you asking the president what he saw, observed,

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<v Speaker 1>and heard, but he can't possibly speak to what Maxwell,

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<v Speaker 1>what was in her mind. Question, did you witness Mr. President, Ms. Maxwell,

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<v Speaker 1>appearing to be in the position, over the other girls

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<v Speaker 1>on the plane, and possibly directing the girls? Answer, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that she was Epstein's top aide and that

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<v Speaker 1>she was basically in charge of what happened. Question, what

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<v Speaker 1>did happen, Mr. President? Answer, I don't know. I've already

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<v Speaker 1>told you this. I'll tell it again. I never saw

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<v Speaker 1>anybody do anything wrong. I thought that there were flight attendants. Question,

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<v Speaker 1>do flight attendants typically wear tank tops and jeans? Answer,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't all wear uniforms on private planes. Question, yes, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>Most are dressed probably pretty business class. His lawyer jumps in,

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<v Speaker 1>so his testimony was, with respect to private aircrafts, people

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<v Speaker 1>are not wearing uniforms. Question, Dr. Bledsoe described in Audible

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<v Speaker 1>one of the girls serving as a masseuse. At any point,

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<v Speaker 1>did you or other male passengers receive a massage from

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<v Speaker 1>this young woman or any other young woman as described

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<v Speaker 1>shows that in an airport waiting area, one of them

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<v Speaker 1>was massaging my neck. That's all I've seen. Question, have

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<v Speaker 1>you received more than one massage from these trips with Mr.

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein and young girls that were present? Clinton, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>recall them, but the problem I remember from that trip

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<v Speaker 1>was that my neck had spasmed and I was in

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<v Speaker 1>and so they offered to help me and I let

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<v Speaker 1>them help. Question, she asked whether or not you recalled

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<v Speaker 1>any other massage. Bill Clinton, no, I do not. All right, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>next episode, we're going to pick up where we left off.

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