Speaker 1: Stuck at home, bored and alone. You'd think I could
Speaker 1: have some fun.
Speaker 2: On my own, but not bored.
Speaker 1: I boed if with Cecily and Stephanie. What's up? Everybody?
Speaker 2: Welcome to bored a f You know what, We're not bored.
Speaker 2: I'm a little bored. You are pretty bored.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not. It's today to die a little bit bored.
Speaker 1: I'm just tired. I think I'm tired.
Speaker 3: I can't tell the difference between being tired and bored anymore?
Speaker 1: Does anyone else have that? Who here? Who here? Raise
Speaker 1: your hand? Show up hands? Who here? Is tired?
Speaker 2: Well? I just never want to do anything, so I
Speaker 2: can't tell if that's really tired.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you know, I have a headache? You do right now? No?
Speaker 1: Right now? I feel fine? Do you ever wake up? Okay?
Speaker 1: You don't drink coffee because your heart? Right? I can't? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't anymore? Now are you not allowed? Or is
Speaker 1: it allowed?
Speaker 3: I mean they're not like they're they never disallow anything,
Speaker 3: like even if you, like, if you have lung cancer,
Speaker 3: you'd be like you really shouldn't smoke, But they can't stop.
Speaker 2: You, right, But I mean do they say, like, hey,
Speaker 2: that's really not good with your what's going on with
Speaker 2: your heart?
Speaker 1: And also they yes say that.
Speaker 3: And also I can feel it if I have caffeine,
Speaker 3: like if they mess up my order, which they often
Speaker 3: do at coffee places because they do not give a
Speaker 3: fuck if you say decaf, I can feel it in
Speaker 3: my heart like immediately, like it like beats really fat.
Speaker 1: It's terrible. So it's kind of not even worth it. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I just take crack. I mean that's a quicker. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well yeah it's and it's bigger, it's more fun. Crack
Speaker 2: is way more affordable, is the thing, than just it's
Speaker 2: not whack. I think caffeine is whack. Yeah, no, crack is.
Speaker 3: You're joking, but it probably is more affordable than like Starbucks.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it probably is at this point. That's hilarious. Now,
Speaker 2: what was your question about caffeine. Oh, I was just
Speaker 2: going to say, sometimes if I when I have not
Speaker 2: been sleeping well and I really really like my one
Speaker 2: cup of coffee in the morning. Yeah, this is not
Speaker 2: really that interesting to anybody but me, but sometimes I
Speaker 2: have like a few SIPs of it and then I'm
Speaker 2: just like, oh I can't, I'm too like lack of sleep.
Speaker 2: I'm too tired to drink caffeine, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And then, and the reason I say that is because
Speaker 2: I'm sitting here with like a half a cup of
Speaker 2: coffee in front of me that I just didn't drink
Speaker 2: this morning.
Speaker 3: I remember during my CAZy La days, you know, we'd
Speaker 3: have to be there at five ams.
Speaker 2: You're at like four thirty. I was so close to
Speaker 2: the station that I would just not shower, which they
Speaker 2: did not appreciate. My boss would be like, we're doing
Speaker 2: photos with you know whoever, like Clinton Blat, you know who,
Speaker 2: whatever country start we got whoever.
Speaker 3: I can't even think of the names because who because
Speaker 3: I don't care. We got George Strait coming in and
Speaker 3: you didn't. You're wearing your pajamas. It's not appropriate and
Speaker 3: we need you to like put on something.
Speaker 1: Wow. I would come in sweats, yeah. And they weren't wrong.
Speaker 3: I was doing like a professional job. We had like
Speaker 3: radio listeners that would stop by. We had good guests
Speaker 3: every day, you know. But I was very into coffee then,
Speaker 3: and they had the grossest coffee in the little kitchen.
Speaker 3: You'd think they'd have something fancy, but they didn't. It
Speaker 3: was just like Buzz would make this like black coffee
Speaker 3: every day and I would add just a bunch of
Speaker 3: French vanilla creamer roast creamer from the fridge that was
Speaker 3: probably like.
Speaker 1: Whatever, and we'd eat it and we'd eat it.
Speaker 3: We'd drink in our little like dixie cup like plastic cups.
Speaker 3: Like it was just not super refreshing, but we needed
Speaker 3: that boost because it was five.
Speaker 1: In the morning and we were literally going on air.
Speaker 3: And one day before they hired Peter, they were trying
Speaker 3: out different people and they had a guy that was
Speaker 3: on the station for a very long time, this guy
Speaker 3: named Sean. He was a really nice guy. Okay, that
Speaker 3: Sean on and he was filling in for a week
Speaker 3: as like our lead guy. This is going somewhere, I promise.
Speaker 1: And I was.
Speaker 2: Actually interested in the fact that so did he know
Speaker 2: that was this like his big dream?
Speaker 1: And he's like, oh, I'm getting he.
Speaker 2: Was already on the station. He did afternoons. Oh, I
Speaker 2: think he wants new mornings because you make more money
Speaker 2: in mornings. But I don't think he was really you know,
Speaker 2: he was fine. He was he was a popular guy
Speaker 2: on the station. He had a bunch of other gigs.
Speaker 2: He didn't really need it. He was just kind of
Speaker 2: filling it.
Speaker 3: Okay until they found something, so he was trying to
Speaker 3: lose weight. We sometimes kind of went at it. We
Speaker 3: liked each other just fine. I still like my hope
Speaker 3: he's well. But sometimes i'd get mad because he would
Speaker 3: like he would do like a Jim Carrey like he'd
Speaker 3: be like, alrighty then, but like he wasn't kidding, you know,
Speaker 3: and I'd be like, please do that. I can't be
Speaker 3: on a show where someone's doing that. And he'd be like, oh,
Speaker 3: and he thought I was being a snob, which I
Speaker 3: guess I was, But would you want to be on
Speaker 3: a air with someone that was saying alrighty then no
Speaker 3: in a Jim Carrey voice.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: So he was on a diet and he was like, oh,
Speaker 3: no call for me, and Buzz and I were like,
Speaker 3: why no coffee for you?
Speaker 1: That? Yeah? Yeah, that was my first I was.
Speaker 2: Like, wait, I don't even know where this story is going,
Speaker 2: but it's already annoying.
Speaker 3: I was like, well, what do you mean it's fattening.
Speaker 3: We're like, no, it's not. It's actually the opposite. Buzz
Speaker 3: is like it's a diuretic. You'll lose weight with it,
Speaker 3: You'll peel a lot, you'll be less bloated. You just
Speaker 3: don't put a lot of sugar, but you can use
Speaker 3: the non dairy sugar free creamer that Cecily uses. Look
Speaker 3: at she's like ninety eight pounds.
Speaker 1: I think she's fat. He's like no, He's like, you're
Speaker 1: telling me that coffee doesn't make you gain weight. And
Speaker 1: we're like, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 3: Have children? So then he just he was like ah,
Speaker 3: he like ran off. He goes cover for me, and
Speaker 3: he went and got a cup of coffee.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. And that was the first he'd heard
Speaker 1: of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, apparently, I mean, I know, I hope I didn't
Speaker 3: cause like we didn't cause heart issues. I mean, listen,
Speaker 3: there's plenty of reasons not to drink a lot of caffeine,
Speaker 3: but yeah, but gaining weight isn't one of them. M
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Speaker 2: Can I start with the little Threads question. I don't
Speaker 2: have it exactly up, but I have it pretty memorized.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 2: I mean, Threads really is bringing it. It's also the
Speaker 2: worst place in the world and just terrible and just
Speaker 2: the dumbest people, but also some of the funniest and
Speaker 2: smart as people, and they kind of make me laugh.
Speaker 2: I don't know why.
Speaker 3: So there's this thing, this algorithm on Threads that I'm
Speaker 3: in and I did not choose this. I never looked
Speaker 3: anything like this up, I swear to God. But sometimes
Speaker 3: if you just open one thing, you know forever, that's it.
Speaker 1: Even if you change your.
Speaker 3: Algorithm, you can. I told you on Threads you can write,
Speaker 3: dear al go please bring me. That's the prompt. Then
Speaker 3: you say the things you want to see. The first
Speaker 3: time I did it, it totally worked.
Speaker 1: It was awesome.
Speaker 3: I was like, please bring me all things NASA Space
Speaker 3: black Holes. I want to learn about the unit. You know,
Speaker 3: I wrote it and I got all that stuff. This
Speaker 3: last time I did it. It didn't bring me any
Speaker 3: of that stuff. It brought me anti Semitism than I
Speaker 3: could ever imagine.
Speaker 2: Like, when you say anti Semitism, what are you referring to?
Speaker 3: Oh, I'd rather not say just horrible, just people just
Speaker 3: being vile, just genuinely not don't just not caring for
Speaker 3: the Jews, Okay, using all kinds of slurs and just terrible,
Speaker 3: terrible shit. So beyond that, I'm also in some sort
Speaker 3: of dating algorithm and I have no idea why so.
Speaker 2: I well, probably because I covered it once on board.
Speaker 2: But people are posting text messages between people that they'd
Speaker 2: met on bumble or hinge. They're calling them like dating fails.
Speaker 2: First of all, if any of it's real, it's disgusting.
Speaker 2: It's disgusting that people would screenshot real people and then
Speaker 2: post them on threads and be like, what do you
Speaker 2: guys think? I think that that's very rude. It's really
Speaker 2: not making the world a better place.
Speaker 1: Well, what are well?
Speaker 2: Is?
Speaker 1: So are any of the people people that should be
Speaker 1: called out.
Speaker 3: I mean, here's one, okay, here's one that really stood
Speaker 3: out to me, and it was really adching this this
Speaker 3: woman posts and I don't have it in front of
Speaker 3: me because I lost it. I don't know how to
Speaker 3: find it. But basically she was like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: you guys are all going to agree with me. I
Speaker 3: shut this shit down fast. So then it's a bunch
Speaker 3: of screenshots.
Speaker 2: You know, on hint you can see if it's bumble
Speaker 2: or hinge, you can see the colors, you know what
Speaker 2: it is, right right, And so she was like, hey,
Speaker 2: this guy I wrote to her and he was like, well,
Speaker 2: I can't wait to meet you. You know, what should
Speaker 2: we do for our first date? And she didn't write back.
Speaker 2: She said something kind of random back, and he was like,
Speaker 2: what about a hike? You know, maybe we could go
Speaker 2: for hike. Now, personally, as a dater, I.
Speaker 1: Don't like a hike first date.
Speaker 3: That was that became very popular during COVID, the beginning
Speaker 3: of COVID, and even then I was like super grossed
Speaker 3: out by the idea. I'm like, I'm not going to
Speaker 3: climb a hill with you?
Speaker 2: Mmm?
Speaker 3: No, Like, but you know, you just kind of weed
Speaker 3: those people out because that's that's just not a ceesy person.
Speaker 1: Probably they were like, remember the dude.
Speaker 3: I'm not naming names, but there was a guy was
Speaker 3: like he was like an out of work actor that
Speaker 3: lived in Echo Park and his idea was that I
Speaker 3: uber over to him and we like feed the ducks.
Speaker 1: Yes, And I was like that isn't and he goes, oh, no,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I really left out the best parties, like we could
Speaker 3: feed the ducks and like maybe work on some comedy
Speaker 3: sketches yes. And I hadn't even told him I did comedy.
Speaker 3: I didn't tell him anything about me. And I was like, well,
Speaker 3: how would you know that I would do comedy sketches?
Speaker 3: And he's like, it's not.
Speaker 1: Hard to figure out who somebody is by their first
Speaker 1: name and any information I can just like image search
Speaker 1: and who you are. I was like, yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to.
Speaker 3: Uber to Echo Park and feed the dum Thank you
Speaker 3: so much, though, thank you, awesome offer.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 3: So this guy, this other guy on the threads uh huh,
Speaker 3: this is so crazy. So he's like, let's go for
Speaker 3: a hike and she's like, yeah, I'm not really this
Speaker 3: is a little, you know, not exact, but she's like,
Speaker 3: I'm not really in the business of going for hikes
Speaker 3: with men that I don't know.
Speaker 1: Right right.
Speaker 3: And I thought that was a weird response because you're
Speaker 3: going to be doing anything with a man you don't know,
Speaker 3: you're on a first date on a dating app, like
Speaker 3: you're going to go to a drink with it whatever.
Speaker 1: So he was like, oh, okay, I get it.
Speaker 3: And then he's like, but to be fair, the canyon
Speaker 3: that I was suggesting that whatever the canyon was, let's
Speaker 3: say it was running and it wasn't. But he's like,
Speaker 3: there's tons of people around. So then she's like, you, sir,
Speaker 3: do not. And she's one of those people that would
Speaker 3: definitely see welp, say welp, or methinks I believe you
Speaker 3: may have said me thinks, which you know that I
Speaker 3: don't like me thinks.
Speaker 1: The sir protest, you know what I mean. She's one
Speaker 1: of those yes.
Speaker 3: And she's like, well, me thinks you're not listening me
Speaker 3: thinks that you are not hearing me when I say
Speaker 3: I guess you just don't know what it's like to
Speaker 3: be a woman. And she was being ridiculous, like he honestly,
Speaker 3: I didn't like the idea of going for a hike.
Speaker 3: But I also I'm like, yeah, I mean, I don't
Speaker 3: think he's just going to kill you at Runyon, can't
Speaker 3: you know at Fryman Canyon, right, there's tons of people.
Speaker 1: In fact, there's more people around than that.
Speaker 3: Like, like, if you went for a drink and he
Speaker 3: walked you to your car, that's more dangerous than going
Speaker 3: for a public hike. Yeah, And she went back and
Speaker 3: forth with him for a long time, and then a
Speaker 3: lot of people agree with me. A lot of people
Speaker 3: on the I remember how many responses there were. But
Speaker 3: a lot of people are like, you're kind of wrong
Speaker 3: on this one. You need to chill out, like seriously,
Speaker 3: need to chill out. Like you can go after the
Speaker 3: people that deserve to be gone after, for sure, but
Speaker 3: like this isn't it. And then oh, the guy did
Speaker 3: say after a while, he's like, Okay, you're being too
Speaker 3: serious about all this. I don't think this is great.
Speaker 3: And she's like, well, me thinks I'm gonna unmatch.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, okay, I have one on threads hold
Speaker 2: on great though. Yes, God, this person writes hey gurlies,
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I don't like that.
Speaker 2: Hey, gurlies a genuine question and then smiley face, but
Speaker 2: with like one drop on the forehead, so it's not
Speaker 2: really laughing. I guess how would you react of a
Speaker 2: guy on the first date admitted he can be abusive
Speaker 2: at times, and then on the second date said he
Speaker 2: doesn't want to make you his quote punching bag. Would
Speaker 2: you see that as honesty, self awareness or red flag
Speaker 2: curious to know your thoughts?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, this reminds me of that show that
Speaker 3: we were just talking about last week, the worst ex
Speaker 3: ever whatever?
Speaker 1: Uh huh, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's like he stole my laptop and he pawned it
Speaker 3: and he punched a wall, and I'm like, I think there's.
Speaker 1: A red flock. Yes, I mean the guy is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can be abusive sometimes, you guys, do you think
Speaker 1: that's a red fly or is that just like a sweetie?
Speaker 1: Is he a sweetie? Yeah? Well, somebody wrote, which this
Speaker 1: person just wants attention, right, they just want their thing
Speaker 1: to blow up? I would say that because somebody wrote,
Speaker 1: how can this be a question? Quit rage baiting? Jesus? Yes,
Speaker 1: there's so many of those two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then what are other people, and so everyone nobody,
Speaker 2: nobody's following. This person wrote, that's just his way of
Speaker 2: seeing if you'll volunteer to be his punching bag the
Speaker 2: first time he hits his partner. After this, he'll say
Speaker 2: I told you what I was like, I guess you're
Speaker 2: gonna leave me now?
Speaker 1: Why did you have to push me into hitting you?
Speaker 1: And everybody's like, second date? What do you mean? Second date?
Speaker 1: My god?
Speaker 2: Yes, And everybody is just like, why on earth was
Speaker 2: there a second date? After he said he's abusive? Oh
Speaker 2: my god, and so, oh my.
Speaker 1: God, this person says.
Speaker 2: This person who's promoting their podcast, by the way, says
Speaker 2: a lot of assholes in the comments. Assuming you can
Speaker 2: safely turn down a man like that, do better and
Speaker 2: learn to support women. It's like, okay, we people are like,
Speaker 2: why would you go on a second date? Not why
Speaker 2: wouldn't you divorce your husband?
Speaker 1: Right right? Right? You haven't gone out with him again?
Speaker 1: Like what of course you can safely turn him down?
Speaker 2: This one makes me laugh. I just went to dating
Speaker 2: threads and so there's now I'm going to find everything.
Speaker 2: But this this this person wrote, well it happened. At
Speaker 2: least they didn't say, well, it happened my married neighbor
Speaker 2: appeared on Tinder claims ethical non monogamy. We've talked about
Speaker 2: that right now, Yes, yes, And it's it drives me
Speaker 2: crazy because it's very common. You'll be looking at thinking
Speaker 2: he's kind of cute because there's not a lot, and
Speaker 2: you're like, okay, that's not so bad, nothing terribly okay, vegan,
Speaker 2: I don't know he likes animals.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get through each thing.
Speaker 3: And at the very bottom it just says my wife
Speaker 3: Barbara will love you like it's crazy.
Speaker 1: It'll just be like it says E N M.
Speaker 3: And then it makes you feel bad that you're not
Speaker 3: into it. It'll say ethical non you know, open and
Speaker 3: ethical non monogamy. Hope that's not a problem for you.
Speaker 3: Hope you're not vanilla, like fuck you. Yeah, yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: extra vanilla.
Speaker 1: Because and then they put it at the bottom they
Speaker 1: like squeeze. It's like, oh, I'm an aries.
Speaker 3: I don't I already don't want to hear about that,
Speaker 3: but I mean, I like scuba diving.
Speaker 1: I am married. I hope you're cool with some kink. Dude,
Speaker 1: say that at the very.
Speaker 3: Top, that should be your name it honestly should just
Speaker 3: be in parentheses next to your name.
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous and that's funny.
Speaker 3: This woman said, I did not swipe right, I did
Speaker 3: take a screenshot.
Speaker 1: You should make your profile just kink shamer. And when
Speaker 1: that person goes interesting, hey I'm into non monogamy, and
Speaker 1: then you go like, yeah, I'm not by and then
Speaker 1: they get mad, you can be like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: what part of my profile name it says kink shamer
Speaker 1: in my name.
Speaker 3: I don't like any of this. I honestly think it's
Speaker 3: weird to even be on top. And that's kind of
Speaker 3: true because I feel it's very performative. I genuinely feel
Speaker 3: that way.
Speaker 1: I always have.
Speaker 3: They're just doing what you saw in a movie. None
Speaker 3: of it's real for me anyway, I would say, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: I love that. Yeah, someone said. Someone said to her
Speaker 3: to this person who saw her neighbor saying that they
Speaker 3: were in an E and M thing. The person said, yeah, screen,
Speaker 3: send the screenshot to the wife. If they're E and M,
Speaker 3: then she'll be fine with it. And if they aren't, well,
Speaker 3: dude just dug his own grave. Then this person, the
Speaker 3: original poster wrote, what if she gets mad?
Speaker 1: At me.
Speaker 3: She knows I live alone? Well, why is the wife
Speaker 3: gonna come for you in either way? In either scenario
Speaker 3: she knows I live alone?
Speaker 1: What are so the wife is the one that you're
Speaker 1: most concerned about? The wife is going to kill you?
Speaker 1: Now for I mean, that's ridiculous. Now yeah, now, I
Speaker 1: don't even know that.
Speaker 3: It's a bunch of people on dating throats posting their
Speaker 3: photos trying to being really thirsty and people like you're beautiful,
Speaker 3: like I'm sixty nine and probably really like forty what
Speaker 3: you're gorgeous? Or it's ai right, I mean, Qustians are amazing.
Speaker 3: What signs are you? And what signs are What are
Speaker 3: the signs of being in a situationship?
Speaker 1: That's that's something a no dates? Yeah, that's one not
Speaker 1: really dating.
Speaker 2: Huh oh, that's funny.
Speaker 3: They become a doctor and you and only have five
Speaker 3: days out of the month to hang out.
Speaker 1: Five days is a lot, that's kidding. Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've had relationships that you know about that. I
Speaker 3: love that or I honestly I'm good with once a week.
Speaker 3: That's four days. That's totally fine.
Speaker 1: That four days a month?
Speaker 3: Wait, is that right? Is that four days a month.
Speaker 3: Once a week is four days a month. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: seems good to me, seems perfect to me. That is
Speaker 3: exactly what I'm looking for. You do it all in
Speaker 3: that week or maybe two days a month, you know,
Speaker 3: like a little during the earlier of the week, or
Speaker 3: you spend the whole weekend, you have one little sleepover,
Speaker 3: you get all your sex out of the way, if
Speaker 3: you want to do your stuff.
Speaker 1: That sounds right, So I guess I like that. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think that sounds like a lot. Now.
Speaker 2: So do you also like the emotional distance, like you
Speaker 2: don't want to all the like questions?
Speaker 1: And that's a really good question. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I haven't been in a serious relationship in so long,
Speaker 3: and even the last one that I was in there
Speaker 3: was not a lot of emotional stuff like that, right,
Speaker 3: I don't really get that, so I can't remember what
Speaker 3: it feels like. So I can't real honestly, I can't answer.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's been years since I've had that. I
Speaker 3: guess I do you know you want the intimacy you
Speaker 3: want like you want the you want that, but I
Speaker 3: don't trust it, right, That's where I am so like
Speaker 3: I've gotten to the point where, yeah, it's like, how
Speaker 3: much do I want to tell this person because it's
Speaker 3: total bullshit anyway, which I guess is very cynical.
Speaker 1: There's like a therapist.
Speaker 2: Not if it was what if I started quoting therapy, Jeff,
Speaker 2: there's this tear me out.
Speaker 1: He's gotten better, but there's a therapist online that I
Speaker 1: got into a little mini argument with this I can
Speaker 1: pull up.
Speaker 2: Actually he is the TV show Girls, which you know
Speaker 2: I love, Uh huh, you know I love Girls, and.
Speaker 3: It's really cool. At first, I really love what he's doing.
Speaker 3: I still think he's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: But he uses clips from Girls between Hannah and Adam.
Speaker 1: Which is funny because we have a little story about that.
Speaker 3: And that's Lena Dunham and Adam Driver their characters to
Speaker 3: show how she has an anxious attachment and he's avoidant.
Speaker 1: And it's really good.
Speaker 3: He uses really cool clips, like you know, but I
Speaker 3: started to notice that he's definitely leaning. He's completely defending
Speaker 3: the Adam character and not really pushing Lena under the bus.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: So I said something I like, said something about it.
Speaker 3: Let me find it because I've had a lot lately
Speaker 3: of a lot of things lately, so give me one second.
Speaker 2: Funny one were like, just because I've had a lot
Speaker 2: to drink. So I've had a lot to drink. I'm
Speaker 2: super drunk right now, we see, okay.
Speaker 3: Okay, this is this is so he put up a
Speaker 3: thing about how like avoidant. So Adam's recovering addict in
Speaker 3: the show, right, and he's at an A A right,
Speaker 3: and he's talking about all this stuff, and he's like,
Speaker 3: I'm dating this girl, but like, she doesn't even fucking
Speaker 3: care about me.
Speaker 1: I don't even think she likes me.
Speaker 2: She comes over and fucks me, but I don't really
Speaker 2: She never ask me anything or whatever interesting stuff, So
Speaker 2: that part's not important.
Speaker 3: I write to the guy, this random doctor. I write
Speaker 3: to this doctor PhD.
Speaker 1: I said, I.
Speaker 3: Love these clips, but implying that the anxiously attached person
Speaker 3: is more toxic than the poor, misunderstood avoidant just does
Speaker 3: not sit right at all with me. I think that
Speaker 3: we've gotten too comfortable labeling everyone when we're mostly on
Speaker 3: a sliding scale any way of attachment. I love the
Speaker 3: conversation you're starting being so serious, but it's starting to
Speaker 3: feel skewed unless I'm misunderstanding. Also, Adam was very charming
Speaker 3: but extremely problematic on the show. He only wanted her
Speaker 3: when he lost her.
Speaker 1: Okay, good, good point.
Speaker 2: He writes back, And he's being a little aged. He's
Speaker 2: a little he's a little therapy jeffish if I may,
Speaker 2: but just not grows like that. But he writes Cecily,
Speaker 2: I specifically say, can you use your name?
Speaker 1: Yeah? He just accessly nobler.
Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, I specifically say that mistreatment is possible
Speaker 2: on both sides of the attachment spectrum, but not inevitably
Speaker 2: simply because someone is anxious or avoidantly attached. There are
Speaker 2: many anxious and avoid avoidantly attached people who treat each
Speaker 2: other well. And then immediately because I'm very people pleasy,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's a very good point, hard
Speaker 2: heart heart. I don't even really know what he's saying exactly.
Speaker 2: I can play you the clip that he initially said,
Speaker 2: but if he posts these clips a lot, and he
Speaker 2: definitely is leaning towards defending avoidant attachers, and it's getting
Speaker 2: a little ridiculous, right, I mean, you know, come on,
Speaker 2: and a lot of people, a lot of people in
Speaker 2: the comments are actually make such good points, like better
Speaker 2: than mine, even find there was one that I like
Speaker 2: kept liking because I thought it was oh yeah, here's
Speaker 2: one that I liked, I loved.
Speaker 3: They were like yeah, okay. But more often the pursuit
Speaker 3: happens by the avoidant person. You know how many times
Speaker 3: I've been through this?
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? Who doesn't seem avoidant at all?
Speaker 2: In the beginning. It's the avoidant love bombing or avoidant
Speaker 2: honeymoon phase. The anxious person is reluctant to start something new.
Speaker 2: They're closed off and they want to slow it down
Speaker 2: because they've been hurt so many times. The avoidant person
Speaker 2: is the one who persists until the anxious person gives
Speaker 2: them a chance, then starts to feel safe and relaxes,
Speaker 2: and that's when the avoidant person loses interest and is gone,
Speaker 2: which has a cumulative effect on the anxious person's psyche.
Speaker 2: That's why dating is so exhausting for them. It's one
Speaker 2: heartbreak after another. Isn't that so perfect? Yes?
Speaker 1: But the guy doesn't and he's.
Speaker 3: Like, well, I think the takeaway is that insecure attachment
Speaker 3: can cause someone to love bomb.
Speaker 1: He's still defending one avoidant person. He's still defending the
Speaker 1: avoidant not taking, and they don't suffer I've read a
Speaker 1: lot about this stuff. They really don't.
Speaker 3: I mean, you can say whatever, I've read so many
Speaker 3: things about this, and they'll you know, they want certain
Speaker 3: things and they feel sad they can't have them, but
Speaker 3: they don't feel the same pain.
Speaker 1: They are like, okay, by next right.
Speaker 3: They feel a little guilt, they feel a little whatever,
Speaker 3: but they don't have that's the whole thing. They'll admit that,
Speaker 3: they're like, yeah, I'm not really thinking about her. They
Speaker 3: just throw themselves on vacation.
Speaker 1: And that's that.
Speaker 2: I think we see this a lot on Love is Blind.
Speaker 2: I know that's a weird reference point, but because the
Speaker 2: name of the game is kind of love bombing, so
Speaker 2: you don't know who's actually truly falling in love and
Speaker 2: who's just I don't want to say yeah performance, but
Speaker 2: who's like yeah, I love this idea and I'm like,
Speaker 2: why are you?
Speaker 1: Why are you not trusting me?
Speaker 2: And then as soon as the person who's a little
Speaker 2: more closed up starts trusting, like you said, then they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: this isn't gonna work out.
Speaker 1: You've seen me go through.
Speaker 3: I'm like no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no no,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just step back, it's all just fun.
Speaker 1: We're having fun, you know whatever. And then they'll be
Speaker 1: like so boyfriendly and.
Speaker 3: You're like, oh, okay, well I guess well, like you know,
Speaker 3: have you meet my friend or whatever, you know, and
Speaker 3: then they're like, no, it's crazy. Someone else wrote this
Speaker 3: last thing to be the last serious thing that we'll
Speaker 3: move on is funny. But they said, from the extensive
Speaker 3: amount of feedback I see online, this is just not correct.
Speaker 3: They're saying to this guy, They're like, the avoidant is
Speaker 3: much more damaging than an anxiously attached person because the
Speaker 3: anxiously attached person allows for intimacy and trust to grow, which.
Speaker 1: Are pillars of a healthy relationship.
Speaker 3: By contrasts the avoidant, and they put in printheses usually
Speaker 3: narciss's there's a fine line, will continue approach and avoidance, repetition, compulsion,
Speaker 3: They get the ick, they get the pick, and they
Speaker 3: pull back, even though they're the ones that were so
Speaker 3: all in, which is a kind of a form of abuse.
Speaker 3: As it pulls the it puts the effort on the
Speaker 3: other person.
Speaker 2: It negates natural growth, intimacy, yep, and trusts so that
Speaker 2: the other person can assess their own feelings in a
Speaker 2: timely manner.
Speaker 1: So that's really this. People are really bringing it and
Speaker 1: I like.
Speaker 2: That, Yeah, but what but what of?
Speaker 1: What of when you're the one who and what by you?
Speaker 3: I mean I am sometimes that person, right, I mean
Speaker 3: I talk about that a lot.
Speaker 1: I'm anxiously if you.
Speaker 3: If I had to have a label, it would be
Speaker 3: anxiously anxious avoidant, which is very common.
Speaker 1: So I get avoidant.
Speaker 3: And I thought about that with someone a few years ago,
Speaker 3: where they were really anxious and wanting to lock it down,
Speaker 3: but on such a fast pace that it kind of
Speaker 3: was just ridiculous, Like my anxiety comes out after a
Speaker 3: couple months. I'm the one going step back, take your time.
Speaker 3: I don't even know you. You know how we both are like.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: And then they say one funny thing and you're like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: I'm in but it takes a minute.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm never like oh, But when it happened to me,
Speaker 3: I just had to be the bad guy. I was
Speaker 3: the villain and there was no way around it, and
Speaker 3: I got like super freaked out. But I don't even
Speaker 3: think I was being avoidant in that situation. I think
Speaker 3: I was trying and it was just way too much,
Speaker 3: way too fast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I definitely do the thing well I you know,
Speaker 2: before John, where I meet somebody and I think and
Speaker 2: they're kind of love bomby.
Speaker 1: But then I'm kind of like, oh my god, we're
Speaker 1: so into it.
Speaker 2: And then in less if they don't pull back okay,
Speaker 2: because this is the only way it's ever worked out
Speaker 2: for me. If they don't pull back, then I get
Speaker 2: freaked out. Like if they keep it up, if they're like, no, no,
Speaker 2: this is not just like early infatuation, like I'm really
Speaker 2: into this, like let's do this.
Speaker 1: Then I'm like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
Speaker 1: whoa whoa.
Speaker 2: We got to slow this all the way down, Like
Speaker 2: this person's crazy, they're too into me. But if they
Speaker 2: pull back a little bit, then not even just a little,
Speaker 2: like okay, I'm settled now, I like you, let's just
Speaker 2: take it slow. Then I'm like, oh, absolutely not. Now
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a thing. You had the same thing I did.
Speaker 3: You just locked into John, you just found you know,
Speaker 3: somebody was able to kind of stand.
Speaker 2: By it well because he did pull back, and then
Speaker 2: I was like this is horrible.
Speaker 1: Why is he pulling back? What did I do?
Speaker 2: Oh that I set about to try to prove myself
Speaker 2: for the next two years.
Speaker 3: I mean, I was in a lot of long term
Speaker 3: relationships where I guess it was more Johnish. It just
Speaker 3: wasn't the right person. It could have worked had we
Speaker 3: not had other issues. But I was in a very long,
Speaker 3: you know, almost seven year relationship, and he kind of
Speaker 3: did that at the beginning. He was very like organized,
Speaker 3: making plans, very into me, but then pulled back a little,
Speaker 3: got me a little obsessed, but then was full on
Speaker 3: boyfriend for years and years, you know.
Speaker 2: Okay, So my point being is I can do it.
Speaker 2: It just wasn't the right guy.
Speaker 3: Like, it wasn't like I was pulling back because you know,
Speaker 3: I had very good reasons to be pulling back.
Speaker 1: But I like this other comment that someone makes on this,
Speaker 1: which is about.
Speaker 3: We're over you know, Like on my comment, I said,
Speaker 3: I think we're over labeling. We're all just leaning too
Speaker 3: hard into these like boxes. Someone is just like human nature,
Speaker 3: We're just different. And someone's like, well, what's the healthy attachment?
Speaker 3: Like my social media is filled with people labeling each
Speaker 3: other manipulators, narcissists, avoidant, anxious. None of these terms were
Speaker 3: even used when I was young. It was more like,
Speaker 3: this is just what you do, rather than this plethora
Speaker 3: of things we shouldn't do.
Speaker 1: I think that's such a good question.
Speaker 2: M hm. And he didn't. The doctor didn't write back
Speaker 2: for some reason. The doctor only wrote back to me. Oh,
Speaker 2: and someone said, yeah, it's funny, you know. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: basically we don't talk a lot about that. And for
Speaker 2: some of.
Speaker 3: Us people that are have do you have issues like that?
Speaker 3: Feels like the secure attachment can feel kind of boring.
Speaker 3: We don't understand it. We didn't whatever whatever theory you
Speaker 3: believe it is, whether it's from your childhood or what like,
Speaker 3: we just don't know it. So we we feel like
Speaker 3: it's nothing unless there's like a oh my god, where'd
Speaker 3: you go?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: And then yeah, no, it's tricky. No.
Speaker 3: For me, I just didn't like that this dude was
Speaker 3: leaning towards the you know, the Adam Driver character. Yeah, who,
Speaker 3: by the way, is writing is jokingly going to write
Speaker 3: his own book to respond to Lena Dunham's accusations in
Speaker 3: her book.
Speaker 2: Yes, which should we remind people with her what the
Speaker 2: accusations were, yeah, and I don't even think, to be fair,
Speaker 2: that she meant it as crazy. You know, she's just
Speaker 2: writing a book and it's probably that happened, you know
Speaker 2: one day on set.
Speaker 3: She and Adam were very close in real life. They
Speaker 3: filmed this show for a very long time. I loved
Speaker 3: the show. I can't stress enough how much.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: And she said that he got really mad once and
Speaker 2: threw a chair at the wall, which is very much
Speaker 2: his character, but not great m m. And she also
Speaker 2: said I think that they had kind of a little
Speaker 2: bit of like will they won't they?
Speaker 3: In real life? Right, He's just not responding, He's just like, yeah, no, thanks.
Speaker 3: Next question. I don't really know that there's much of
Speaker 3: a story there, because I don't even think what she
Speaker 3: said was that big of a deal.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't know that I loved it. If
Speaker 1: it were me, I wouldn't have said it.
Speaker 2: Does she have Does he have a reputation though from
Speaker 2: other than her, of being like weird on sets?
Speaker 3: I don't think so, and I don't think she does either.
Speaker 3: I think, but you know, she has had issues. She
Speaker 3: had issues with the showrunner. Remember she was twenty two
Speaker 3: when she got that job right now, it was because
Speaker 3: Judd Apatow knew her parents right got her that got
Speaker 3: him the pilot.
Speaker 2: And I have read that pilot is perfect. It is
Speaker 2: literally a perfect pilot. I never like, it's a great
Speaker 2: thing to read if you're trying to write a script.
Speaker 1: Mm hm.
Speaker 3: She just it is so good. And so she proved herself.
Speaker 3: But she was very young. But if I'm writing a tell,
Speaker 3: if I'm writing a book and she's written a few, like,
Speaker 3: I don't think I would. I don't think I would
Speaker 3: throw ad him under the bus.
Speaker 1: He like really helped. I don't know, would you? I mean,
Speaker 1: what do you think? Well, you know, speaking.
Speaker 2: As somebody who's written some books, sometimes you just get
Speaker 2: into like actually, remember I and I've I've of course
Speaker 2: talked about this before, but remember when I was writing
Speaker 2: one of my books. And Patrick Price will back me
Speaker 2: up on this if he if he listens to every episode,
Speaker 2: which he better, if he still loves me. But I
Speaker 2: had written a thing about remember about the Bare Naked
Speaker 2: Lady story? Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, And I wrote it
Speaker 2: because I was like a word count, you know, like
Speaker 2: I I got not I want to tell this story.
Speaker 2: And then you know, Patrick was like, maybe not, maybe
Speaker 2: you're not going to love that you told this story
Speaker 2: in there, and so I was forced to come up
Speaker 2: with like something else.
Speaker 1: But I remember just thinking, I don't care. I told okay,
Speaker 1: but let me push that so glad I didn't include
Speaker 1: it now, yeah, and I'm gonna push back though.
Speaker 3: That's different. That was like a weird like that was
Speaker 3: a hookup that wasn't your co star that you were
Speaker 3: really close to, who's continuing to work in this business,
Speaker 3: who really didn't do anything that terrible, who like, for
Speaker 3: no reason, even if you're not friends anymore, for no reason,
Speaker 3: you're going to throw his name into the thing. Like
Speaker 3: I like Lena Dunham. I've heard the book is awesome
Speaker 3: and I want to read it, so that's great, Like
Speaker 3: that's so unnecessary. It's different. The Very Naked Lady's story
Speaker 3: is different. Like when I wrote She's Crazy as a Liar,
Speaker 3: they wanted real stories, but I didn't use any real names.
Speaker 3: I did put in real stories, but I didn't use
Speaker 3: any names. And it was after the Russell Crow thing,
Speaker 3: so I could have put that in, but I didn't.
Speaker 3: Although I think I implied. I think I like gave
Speaker 3: enough hints.
Speaker 1: I think I don't remember.
Speaker 3: Actually if I put that in. I think I tried to,
Speaker 3: so I don't remember if that made it in. But
Speaker 3: I was like, let me just tell you it was
Speaker 3: a movie star and he had a beautiful mind. And
Speaker 3: I put that in quotes. Uh huh, yeah, so he
Speaker 3: would otherwise. But also that was a complimentary story. There
Speaker 3: wasn't anything negative. I wasn't even like it was any
Speaker 3: time I'd say anything was making fun of myself.
Speaker 1: I wasn't saying like, yeah, you threw a chair.
Speaker 2: But let me push back. What if Lena Dunham sold
Speaker 2: her book really wanted to write another book, and they
Speaker 2: were like, well, and let's just say she's in a meeting.
Speaker 2: This has happened to both of us many times. She's
Speaker 2: in the meeting about the book and she's like, oh
Speaker 2: my god. And I could tell stories about like stuff
Speaker 2: you've never heard about, like inside Scoop about the set
Speaker 2: of girls, and they're like, oh, we're listening, I'm listening,
Speaker 2: you know. And then she's like, hmm, yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: just some stuff happened. I mean Adam Driver And they're like, okay,
Speaker 2: we're giving you, you know, four million dollars strite this book.
Speaker 3: Don't you reach out to Adam Driver first and say, hey,
Speaker 3: what do you remember about this? Are you okay with
Speaker 3: me writing about this? I mean, he seems like somebody
Speaker 3: would be open to any you know, a lot of things. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't you say that first. I think it's shitty.
Speaker 3: Here's a little, little, little quick story.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: So I and I cannot use any names, but I
Speaker 2: have been helping somebody with their book.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: He was writing a story about his time on a
Speaker 2: TV show and it's so funny. I mean just just
Speaker 2: this is how, this is how people are. So again,
Speaker 2: I cannot tell you anything about it because but the
Speaker 2: book is coming out. He wrote the book, and he
Speaker 2: got the book deal, wrote the book, and he decided
Speaker 2: that one of the people that he worked with, so
Speaker 2: this was a let's just say it was a talk show, okay,
Speaker 2: and one of the people that was like a character
Speaker 2: on the show, he was like, was just such an
Speaker 2: incredible asshole. And I at the time was like, okay,
Speaker 2: but I don't you know, you got to be really careful,
Speaker 2: like you don't want to say something and then have
Speaker 2: that person that person could sue you you know, and
Speaker 2: he's like, oh no, no, no, it's fine, it's totally fine.
Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, but it might not be fine,
Speaker 2: and then your book publisher might be like, yeah, we
Speaker 2: want this story in there, but then you're going to
Speaker 2: have to take responsibility.
Speaker 1: I try to. I tried to tell him. He didn't
Speaker 1: want to hear it.
Speaker 2: Well when they when the book was it's in its
Speaker 2: final it's not out yet, okay, but when it was
Speaker 2: in its like final thing, you know, they has to
Speaker 2: go through like a lawyer, and they're like, well, did
Speaker 2: you get this person's permission to say this? And he
Speaker 2: was like, oh no, you know, and they're like, well
Speaker 2: you have to so he so he was like, it's
Speaker 2: going to be totally fine. So he wrote to the person, said, hey,
Speaker 2: I wrote this thing about you in the book, like
Speaker 2: you know, you know, all just being funny, you know,
Speaker 2: all all friends here, Okay. The thing that he wrote though,
Speaker 2: was like what a race aging like narcissist asshole this
Speaker 2: person was. And that was like, dude, they're not going
Speaker 2: to be okay with that, Like are you kidding?
Speaker 1: And they weren't. No, of course, they were absolutely like
Speaker 1: what the fuck? And so now he has to rewrite
Speaker 1: that part of the book.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were like, okay, he said about Adam. I
Speaker 3: guess yeah, it's not Yeah, I guess it happened or
Speaker 3: didn't happen. Like, it's not like she absolutely has to
Speaker 3: have provision because she didn't get it and the book
Speaker 3: was it came out right.
Speaker 2: She's obviously he knows he did that, or he could
Speaker 2: sue and he's not doing that. He's just not saying anything.
Speaker 2: He's like, okay, like it's.
Speaker 1: Not the word. What she said isn't the worst thing.
Speaker 2: But also some people are not that. Yeah, some people
Speaker 2: are not going to be like they're not going to care.
Speaker 2: It's like, probably that's your opinion. Probably isn't like other
Speaker 2: people probably knew, you know. When they tried to ask
Speaker 2: Alison Williams, she was also on girls. They're like, what
Speaker 2: do you think about this Adam allegation. She's like, I
Speaker 2: haven't read the book yet. She had the perfect answer, right,
Speaker 2: I got to read the book. Let you know, she
Speaker 2: not taken side. Yeah, she probably knew that.
Speaker 1: Adam.
Speaker 3: You know, he's a little I don't think he's nuts.
Speaker 3: He's probably a little method. They've been they shot them.
Speaker 3: It was six seasons or something.
Speaker 1: But we're just talking about.
Speaker 2: Whether it's worth it, Like, because this person who my
Speaker 2: person that I'm working with was wrote about also probably
Speaker 2: did the things that he's saying they did.
Speaker 1: So why can't you just say that, why can't they
Speaker 1: put it in there? He can? He can't. He could,
Speaker 1: but he could be also be sued. You don't have to.
Speaker 1: Then he has to prove that it was true. You know.
Speaker 1: By the way, I do have a little more on
Speaker 1: Adam Driver.
Speaker 3: I just asked AI because I think Adam Driver volatile
Speaker 3: on some you know, does he have issues on set?
Speaker 2: They said? They bring up the Lena Dunham thing. Says
Speaker 2: that he once, occasionally his temperament would go up. He
Speaker 2: once punched a hole in a trailer wall and did
Speaker 2: hurl a chair at the wall next to her head
Speaker 2: during an intense rehearsal when she struggled to remember her
Speaker 2: lines about that that's not great, that's not great, and
Speaker 2: the fact that's he knows that happened. In twenty nineteen,
Speaker 2: I remember this an NPR interview walk out. He famously
Speaker 2: walked out of an interview on NPR's Fresh Air after
Speaker 2: the host played a clip of him singing. He later
Speaker 2: explained he really dislikes listening to or watching his own performances,
Speaker 2: and the format of the radio segment triggered his anxiety.
Speaker 1: That's possible. I'd walk out to you. I wouldn't want
Speaker 1: to hear that shit.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, please, now, that's annoy Imagine you're tired
Speaker 2: and you're on a pressed tour and they're like.
Speaker 1: Listen to you singing from this thing. What do you
Speaker 1: think about your voice? Yeah? Yeah, I don't know. But
Speaker 1: he's but that's the first thing.
Speaker 2: Is pretty volatile and scary other co stars. Conversely, it
Speaker 2: says many other co stars, such as Daisy Ridley, who
Speaker 2: worked on Star Wars with him, that I call it
Speaker 2: the Star Wars and crew members of publicly praise Driver,
Speaker 2: describing has deeply focused, shy, respectful, highlighting a stark contrast
Speaker 2: and his reputation among different colleagues. So, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know, you know, ah, it's all bullshit, It's all
Speaker 2: it's all good.
Speaker 1: You know. We could do though, we could do a
Speaker 1: shout out to the people that make this podcast possible.
Speaker 3: Let's do that, like our friend Randy may Ames and
Speaker 3: Gail McDonald new name.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hi, Gail, Welcome Gail McDonald.
Speaker 2: I found a few people that's snuck in there, my god. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and Carolyn Bastian and Silvano Jimmetti and Sandra Green and
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Speaker 2: I got.
Speaker 3: His shadow afore mentioned, Julie Turnbull, Victoria Blake, Andrea Crawford,
Speaker 3: Dick Frolicker, Jean Vajepe and Carrie Maller.
Speaker 1: We have more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Karen Johnson Watson and Krista Elizabeth.
Speaker 3: And Crystal Elizabeth and Athena Bouchard. We see we say hello,
Speaker 3: Sean Price, my old friend. You just came up in conversation.
Speaker 3: I'll text you.
Speaker 1: And Kate Donado. Yeah, I love all of you guys. Listen.
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Speaker 1: No, this is incredible.
Speaker 2: This is a good get because we've been talking about
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson a lot lately since the movie came out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and we've revisited the documentary and we had some questions.
Speaker 2: So this is this is her point of view, So
Speaker 2: you don't want to miss. I think that will be
Speaker 2: if you're listening on Monday. This will be tomorrow. Yes,
Speaker 2: all right, thank you everybody, Thank you, Bye bye.