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<v Speaker 1>Stuck at home, bored and alone. You'd think I could

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<v Speaker 1>have some fun.

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<v Speaker 2>On my own, but not bored.

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<v Speaker 1>I boed if with Cecily and Stephanie. What's up? Everybody?

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to bored a f You know what, We're not bored.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little bored. You are pretty bored.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm not. It's today to die a little bit bored.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just tired. I think I'm tired.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't tell the difference between being tired and bored anymore?

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<v Speaker 1>Does anyone else have that? Who here? Who here? Raise

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<v Speaker 1>your hand? Show up hands? Who here? Is tired?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I just never want to do anything, so I

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<v Speaker 2>can't tell if that's really tired.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you know, I have a headache? You do right now? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Right now? I feel fine? Do you ever wake up? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>You don't drink coffee because your heart? Right? I can't? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't anymore? Now are you not allowed? Or is

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<v Speaker 1>it allowed?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they're not like they're they never disallow anything,

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<v Speaker 3>like even if you, like, if you have lung cancer,

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<v Speaker 3>you'd be like you really shouldn't smoke, But they can't stop.

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<v Speaker 2>You, right, But I mean do they say, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>that's really not good with your what's going on with

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<v Speaker 2>your heart?

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<v Speaker 1>And also they yes say that.

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<v Speaker 3>And also I can feel it if I have caffeine,

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<v Speaker 3>like if they mess up my order, which they often

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<v Speaker 3>do at coffee places because they do not give a

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<v Speaker 3>fuck if you say decaf, I can feel it in

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<v Speaker 3>my heart like immediately, like it like beats really fat.

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<v Speaker 1>It's terrible. So it's kind of not even worth it. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I just take crack. I mean that's a quicker. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah it's and it's bigger, it's more fun. Crack

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<v Speaker 2>is way more affordable, is the thing, than just it's

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<v Speaker 2>not whack. I think caffeine is whack. Yeah, no, crack is.

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<v Speaker 3>You're joking, but it probably is more affordable than like Starbucks.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it probably is at this point. That's hilarious. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>what was your question about caffeine. Oh, I was just

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<v Speaker 2>going to say, sometimes if I when I have not

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<v Speaker 2>been sleeping well and I really really like my one

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<v Speaker 2>cup of coffee in the morning. Yeah, this is not

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<v Speaker 2>really that interesting to anybody but me, but sometimes I

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<v Speaker 2>have like a few SIPs of it and then I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just like, oh I can't, I'm too like lack of sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm too tired to drink caffeine, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>And then, and the reason I say that is because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting here with like a half a cup of

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<v Speaker 2>coffee in front of me that I just didn't drink

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<v Speaker 2>this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember during my CAZy La days, you know, we'd

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<v Speaker 3>have to be there at five ams.

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<v Speaker 2>You're at like four thirty. I was so close to

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<v Speaker 2>the station that I would just not shower, which they

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<v Speaker 2>did not appreciate. My boss would be like, we're doing

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<v Speaker 2>photos with you know whoever, like Clinton Blat, you know who,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever country start we got whoever.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't even think of the names because who because

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care. We got George Strait coming in and

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<v Speaker 3>you didn't. You're wearing your pajamas. It's not appropriate and

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<v Speaker 3>we need you to like put on something.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. I would come in sweats, yeah. And they weren't wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>I was doing like a professional job. We had like

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<v Speaker 3>radio listeners that would stop by. We had good guests

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<v Speaker 3>every day, you know. But I was very into coffee then,

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<v Speaker 3>and they had the grossest coffee in the little kitchen.

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<v Speaker 3>You'd think they'd have something fancy, but they didn't. It

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<v Speaker 3>was just like Buzz would make this like black coffee

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<v Speaker 3>every day and I would add just a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>French vanilla creamer roast creamer from the fridge that was

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<v Speaker 3>probably like.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever, and we'd eat it and we'd eat it.

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<v Speaker 3>We'd drink in our little like dixie cup like plastic cups.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it was just not super refreshing, but we needed

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<v Speaker 3>that boost because it was five.

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<v Speaker 1>In the morning and we were literally going on air.

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<v Speaker 3>And one day before they hired Peter, they were trying

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<v Speaker 3>out different people and they had a guy that was

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<v Speaker 3>on the station for a very long time, this guy

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<v Speaker 3>named Sean. He was a really nice guy. Okay, that

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<v Speaker 3>Sean on and he was filling in for a week

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<v Speaker 3>as like our lead guy. This is going somewhere, I promise.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually interested in the fact that so did he know

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<v Speaker 2>that was this like his big dream?

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, oh, I'm getting he.

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<v Speaker 2>Was already on the station. He did afternoons. Oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>think he wants new mornings because you make more money

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<v Speaker 2>in mornings. But I don't think he was really you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he was fine. He was he was a popular guy

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<v Speaker 2>on the station. He had a bunch of other gigs.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't really need it. He was just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>filling it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay until they found something, so he was trying to

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<v Speaker 3>lose weight. We sometimes kind of went at it. We

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<v Speaker 3>liked each other just fine. I still like my hope

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<v Speaker 3>he's well. But sometimes i'd get mad because he would

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<v Speaker 3>like he would do like a Jim Carrey like he'd

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<v Speaker 3>be like, alrighty then, but like he wasn't kidding, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'd be like, please do that. I can't be

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<v Speaker 3>on a show where someone's doing that. And he'd be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>and he thought I was being a snob, which I

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<v Speaker 3>guess I was, But would you want to be on

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<v Speaker 3>a air with someone that was saying alrighty then no

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<v Speaker 3>in a Jim Carrey voice.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 3>So he was on a diet and he was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>no call for me, and Buzz and I were like,

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<v Speaker 3>why no coffee for you?

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<v Speaker 1>That? Yeah? Yeah, that was my first I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, wait, I don't even know where this story is going,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's already annoying.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, well, what do you mean it's fattening.

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<v Speaker 3>We're like, no, it's not. It's actually the opposite. Buzz

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<v Speaker 3>is like it's a diuretic. You'll lose weight with it,

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<v Speaker 3>You'll peel a lot, you'll be less bloated. You just

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<v Speaker 3>don't put a lot of sugar, but you can use

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<v Speaker 3>the non dairy sugar free creamer that Cecily uses. Look

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<v Speaker 3>at she's like ninety eight pounds.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she's fat. He's like no, He's like, you're

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<v Speaker 1>telling me that coffee doesn't make you gain weight. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're like, what's wrong with you?

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<v Speaker 3>Have children? So then he just he was like ah,

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<v Speaker 3>he like ran off. He goes cover for me, and

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<v Speaker 3>he went and got a cup of coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. And that was the first he'd heard

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<v Speaker 1>of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, apparently, I mean, I know, I hope I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>cause like we didn't cause heart issues. I mean, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>there's plenty of reasons not to drink a lot of caffeine,

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah, but gaining weight isn't one of them. M

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<v Speaker 3>And just be like, yeah, I don't do coke because

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<v Speaker 3>I really want to stay skinny. And it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>do I have news for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know if I should be the

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<v Speaker 2>one to tell you this, but uh yeah, I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>And that man is Robert Downey Jr. Why do I

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<v Speaker 1>tell him that that wasn't right. I wish I really

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<v Speaker 1>let him astray in many ways. He was really just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to stay in shape. And I'm just like, He's.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, I want to do math, but like, I'll just

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<v Speaker 3>get fat, and my teeth will be really good, too good.

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<v Speaker 1>My teeth won't look like real teeth.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm playing, you know, I want to be like

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<v Speaker 3>of the people, and I'm like, wait a minute, I've

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<v Speaker 3>big fan of loomy gummies. I like the ones with

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<v Speaker 1>See.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and let me tell you about something. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>Can I start with the little Threads question. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have it exactly up, but I have it pretty memorized.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Threads really is bringing it. It's also the

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<v Speaker 2>worst place in the world and just terrible and just

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<v Speaker 2>the dumbest people, but also some of the funniest and

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<v Speaker 2>smart as people, and they kind of make me laugh.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's this thing, this algorithm on Threads that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>in and I did not choose this. I never looked

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<v Speaker 3>anything like this up, I swear to God. But sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>if you just open one thing, you know forever, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if you change your.

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<v Speaker 3>Algorithm, you can. I told you on Threads you can write,

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<v Speaker 3>dear al go please bring me. That's the prompt. Then

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<v Speaker 3>you say the things you want to see. The first

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<v Speaker 3>time I did it, it totally worked.

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<v Speaker 1>It was awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, please bring me all things NASA Space

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<v Speaker 3>black Holes. I want to learn about the unit. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I wrote it and I got all that stuff. This

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<v Speaker 3>last time I did it. It didn't bring me any

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<v Speaker 2>Like, when you say anti Semitism, what are you referring to?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'd rather not say just horrible, just people just

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<v Speaker 3>the Jews, Okay, using all kinds of slurs and just terrible,

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<v Speaker 3>terrible shit. So beyond that, I'm also in some sort

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<v Speaker 2>I well, probably because I covered it once on board.

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<v Speaker 2>But people are posting text messages between people that they'd

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, if any of it's real, it's disgusting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's disgusting that people would screenshot real people and then

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<v Speaker 2>post them on threads and be like, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what are well?

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<v Speaker 1>So are any of the people people that should be

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, here's one, okay, here's one that really stood

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<v Speaker 3>me because I lost it. I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 3>shut this shit down fast. So then it's a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>You know, on hint you can see if it's bumble

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<v Speaker 2>or hinge, you can see the colors, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>it is, right right, And so she was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy I wrote to her and he was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to meet you. You know, what should

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<v Speaker 2>She said something kind of random back, and he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>what about a hike? You know, maybe we could go

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<v Speaker 2>for hike. Now, personally, as a dater, I.

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<v Speaker 3>That was that became very popular during COVID, the beginning

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<v Speaker 3>of COVID, and even then I was like super grossed

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<v Speaker 3>out by the idea. I'm like, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 3>No, Like, but you know, you just kind of weed

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<v Speaker 3>those people out because that's that's just not a ceesy person.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably they were like, remember the dude.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not naming names, but there was a guy was

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And I was like that isn't and he goes, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I really left out the best parties, like we could

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<v Speaker 3>feed the ducks and like maybe work on some comedy

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<v Speaker 3>sketches yes. And I hadn't even told him I did comedy.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't tell him anything about me. And I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>how would you know that I would do comedy sketches?

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<v Speaker 3>And he's like, it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Hard to figure out who somebody is by their first

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<v Speaker 1>name and any information I can just like image search

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<v Speaker 1>and who you are. I was like, yeah, I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>Uber to Echo Park and feed the dum Thank you

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<v Speaker 3>so much, though, thank you, awesome offer.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>So this guy, this other guy on the threads uh huh,

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<v Speaker 3>this is so crazy. So he's like, let's go for

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<v Speaker 3>a hike and she's like, yeah, I'm not really this

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<v Speaker 3>is a little, you know, not exact, but she's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not really in the business of going for hikes

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<v Speaker 3>with men that I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right.

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<v Speaker 3>And I thought that was a weird response because you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to be doing anything with a man you don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>you're on a first date on a dating app, like

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to go to a drink with it whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was like, oh, okay, I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he's like, but to be fair, the canyon

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<v Speaker 3>that I was suggesting that whatever the canyon was, let's

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<v Speaker 3>say it was running and it wasn't. But he's like,

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<v Speaker 3>there's tons of people around. So then she's like, you, sir,

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<v Speaker 3>do not. And she's one of those people that would

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<v Speaker 3>definitely see welp, say welp, or methinks I believe you

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<v Speaker 3>may have said me thinks, which you know that I

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<v Speaker 3>don't like me thinks.

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<v Speaker 1>The sir protest, you know what I mean. She's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those yes.

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<v Speaker 3>And she's like, well, me thinks you're not listening me

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<v Speaker 3>thinks that you are not hearing me when I say

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<v Speaker 3>I guess you just don't know what it's like to

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<v Speaker 3>be a woman. And she was being ridiculous, like he honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't like the idea of going for a hike.

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<v Speaker 3>But I also I'm like, yeah, I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think he's just going to kill you at Runyon, can't

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<v Speaker 3>you know at Fryman Canyon, right, there's tons of people.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, there's more people around than that.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, like, if you went for a drink and he

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<v Speaker 3>walked you to your car, that's more dangerous than going

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<v Speaker 3>for a public hike. Yeah, And she went back and

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<v Speaker 3>forth with him for a long time, and then a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people agree with me. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>on the I remember how many responses there were. But

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people are like, you're kind of wrong

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<v Speaker 3>on this one. You need to chill out, like seriously,

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<v Speaker 3>need to chill out. Like you can go after the

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<v Speaker 3>people that deserve to be gone after, for sure, but

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<v Speaker 3>like this isn't it. And then oh, the guy did

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<v Speaker 3>say after a while, he's like, Okay, you're being too

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<v Speaker 3>serious about all this. I don't think this is great.

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<v Speaker 3>And she's like, well, me thinks I'm gonna unmatch.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, okay, I have one on threads hold

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<v Speaker 2>on great though. Yes, God, this person writes hey gurlies,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, I don't like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, gurlies a genuine question and then smiley face, but

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<v Speaker 2>with like one drop on the forehead, so it's not

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<v Speaker 2>really laughing. I guess how would you react of a

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<v Speaker 2>guy on the first date admitted he can be abusive

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<v Speaker 2>at times, and then on the second date said he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't want to make you his quote punching bag. Would

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<v Speaker 2>you see that as honesty, self awareness or red flag

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<v Speaker 2>curious to know your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, this reminds me of that show that

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<v Speaker 3>we were just talking about last week, the worst ex

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<v Speaker 3>ever whatever?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like he stole my laptop and he pawned it

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<v Speaker 3>and he punched a wall, and I'm like, I think there's.

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<v Speaker 1>A red flock. Yes, I mean the guy is like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can be abusive sometimes, you guys, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a red fly or is that just like a sweetie?

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<v Speaker 1>Is he a sweetie? Yeah? Well, somebody wrote, which this

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<v Speaker 1>person just wants attention, right, they just want their thing

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<v Speaker 1>to blow up? I would say that because somebody wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>how can this be a question? Quit rage baiting? Jesus? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many of those two.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then what are other people, and so everyone nobody,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody's following. This person wrote, that's just his way of

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<v Speaker 2>seeing if you'll volunteer to be his punching bag the

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<v Speaker 2>first time he hits his partner. After this, he'll say

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<v Speaker 2>I told you what I was like, I guess you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna leave me now?

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you have to push me into hitting you?

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<v Speaker 1>And everybody's like, second date? What do you mean? Second date?

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<v Speaker 1>My god?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And everybody is just like, why on earth was

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<v Speaker 2>there a second date? After he said he's abusive? Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, and so, oh my.

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<v Speaker 1>God, this person says.

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<v Speaker 2>This person who's promoting their podcast, by the way, says

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of assholes in the comments. Assuming you can

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<v Speaker 2>safely turn down a man like that, do better and

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<v Speaker 2>learn to support women. It's like, okay, we people are like,

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<v Speaker 2>why would you go on a second date? Not why

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't you divorce your husband?

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<v Speaker 1>Right right? Right? You haven't gone out with him again?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what of course you can safely turn him down?

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<v Speaker 2>This one makes me laugh. I just went to dating

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<v Speaker 2>threads and so there's now I'm going to find everything.

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<v Speaker 2>But this this this person wrote, well it happened. At

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<v Speaker 2>least they didn't say, well, it happened my married neighbor

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<v Speaker 2>appeared on Tinder claims ethical non monogamy. We've talked about

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<v Speaker 2>that right now, Yes, yes, And it's it drives me

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<v Speaker 2>crazy because it's very common. You'll be looking at thinking

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<v Speaker 2>he's kind of cute because there's not a lot, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, okay, that's not so bad, nothing terribly okay, vegan,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know he likes animals.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to get through each thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And at the very bottom it just says my wife

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<v Speaker 3>Barbara will love you like it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll just be like it says E N M.

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<v Speaker 3>And then it makes you feel bad that you're not

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<v Speaker 3>into it. It'll say ethical non you know, open and

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<v Speaker 3>ethical non monogamy. Hope that's not a problem for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Hope you're not vanilla, like fuck you. Yeah, yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>extra vanilla.

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<v Speaker 1>Because and then they put it at the bottom they

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<v Speaker 1>like squeeze. It's like, oh, I'm an aries.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I already don't want to hear about that,

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<v Speaker 3>but I mean, I like scuba diving.

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<v Speaker 1>I am married. I hope you're cool with some kink. Dude,

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<v Speaker 1>say that at the very.

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<v Speaker 3>Top, that should be your name it honestly should just

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<v Speaker 3>be in parentheses next to your name.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ridiculous and that's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>This woman said, I did not swipe right, I did

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<v Speaker 3>take a screenshot.

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<v Speaker 1>You should make your profile just kink shamer. And when

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<v Speaker 1>that person goes interesting, hey I'm into non monogamy, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you go like, yeah, I'm not by and then

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<v Speaker 1>they get mad, you can be like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>what part of my profile name it says kink shamer

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<v Speaker 1>in my name.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like any of this. I honestly think it's

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<v Speaker 3>weird to even be on top. And that's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>true because I feel it's very performative. I genuinely feel

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<v Speaker 3>that way.

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<v Speaker 1>I always have.

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<v Speaker 3>They're just doing what you saw in a movie. None

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<v Speaker 3>of it's real for me anyway, I would say, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I love that. Yeah, someone said. Someone said to her

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<v Speaker 3>to this person who saw her neighbor saying that they

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<v Speaker 3>were in an E and M thing. The person said, yeah, screen,

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<v Speaker 3>send the screenshot to the wife. If they're E and M,

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<v Speaker 3>then she'll be fine with it. And if they aren't, well,

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<v Speaker 3>dude just dug his own grave. Then this person, the

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<v Speaker 3>original poster wrote, what if she gets mad?

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<v Speaker 1>At me.

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<v Speaker 3>She knows I live alone? Well, why is the wife

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<v Speaker 3>gonna come for you in either way? In either scenario

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<v Speaker 3>she knows I live alone?

422
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<v Speaker 1>What are so the wife is the one that you're

423
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<v Speaker 1>most concerned about? The wife is going to kill you?

424
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<v Speaker 1>Now for I mean, that's ridiculous. Now yeah, now, I

425
00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:53.640
<v Speaker 1>don't even know that.

426
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<v Speaker 3>It's a bunch of people on dating throats posting their

427
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<v Speaker 3>photos trying to being really thirsty and people like you're beautiful,

428
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<v Speaker 3>like I'm sixty nine and probably really like forty what

429
00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:09.720
<v Speaker 3>you're gorgeous? Or it's ai right, I mean, Qustians are amazing.

430
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<v Speaker 3>What signs are you? And what signs are What are

431
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<v Speaker 3>the signs of being in a situationship?

432
00:19:16.359 --> 00:19:20.400
<v Speaker 1>That's that's something a no dates? Yeah, that's one not

433
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<v Speaker 1>really dating.

434
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<v Speaker 2>Huh oh, that's funny.

435
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<v Speaker 3>They become a doctor and you and only have five

436
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<v Speaker 3>days out of the month to hang out.

437
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<v Speaker 1>Five days is a lot, that's kidding. Oh my god.

438
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've had relationships that you know about that. I

439
00:19:33.480 --> 00:19:35.920
<v Speaker 3>love that or I honestly I'm good with once a week.

440
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<v Speaker 3>That's four days. That's totally fine.

441
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<v Speaker 1>That four days a month?

442
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<v Speaker 3>Wait, is that right? Is that four days a month.

443
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<v Speaker 3>Once a week is four days a month. Yeah, it

444
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<v Speaker 3>seems good to me, seems perfect to me. That is

445
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<v Speaker 3>exactly what I'm looking for. You do it all in

446
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<v Speaker 3>that week or maybe two days a month, you know,

447
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<v Speaker 3>like a little during the earlier of the week, or

448
00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:55.839
<v Speaker 3>you spend the whole weekend, you have one little sleepover,

449
00:19:55.960 --> 00:19:57.440
<v Speaker 3>you get all your sex out of the way, if

450
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<v Speaker 3>you want to do your stuff.

451
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<v Speaker 1>That sounds right, So I guess I like that. I

452
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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I think that sounds like a lot. Now.

453
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<v Speaker 2>So do you also like the emotional distance, like you

454
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<v Speaker 2>don't want to all the like questions?

455
00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:13.519
<v Speaker 1>And that's a really good question. I don't know.

456
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<v Speaker 3>I haven't been in a serious relationship in so long,

457
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<v Speaker 3>and even the last one that I was in there

458
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<v Speaker 3>was not a lot of emotional stuff like that, right,

459
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<v Speaker 3>I don't really get that, so I can't remember what

460
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<v Speaker 3>it feels like. So I can't real honestly, I can't answer.

461
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's been years since I've had that. I

462
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<v Speaker 3>guess I do you know you want the intimacy you

463
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<v Speaker 3>want like you want the you want that, but I

464
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<v Speaker 3>don't trust it, right, That's where I am so like

465
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<v Speaker 3>I've gotten to the point where, yeah, it's like, how

466
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<v Speaker 3>much do I want to tell this person because it's

467
00:20:42.599 --> 00:20:44.920
<v Speaker 3>total bullshit anyway, which I guess is very cynical.

468
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<v Speaker 1>There's like a therapist.

469
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<v Speaker 2>Not if it was what if I started quoting therapy, Jeff,

470
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<v Speaker 2>there's this tear me out.

471
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<v Speaker 1>He's gotten better, but there's a therapist online that I

472
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<v Speaker 1>got into a little mini argument with this I can

473
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<v Speaker 1>pull up.

474
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<v Speaker 2>Actually he is the TV show Girls, which you know

475
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<v Speaker 2>I love, Uh huh, you know I love Girls, and.

476
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<v Speaker 3>It's really cool. At first, I really love what he's doing.

477
00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:08.880
<v Speaker 3>I still think he's pretty cool.

478
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<v Speaker 2>But he uses clips from Girls between Hannah and Adam.

479
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<v Speaker 1>Which is funny because we have a little story about that.

480
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<v Speaker 3>And that's Lena Dunham and Adam Driver their characters to

481
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<v Speaker 3>show how she has an anxious attachment and he's avoidant.

482
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<v Speaker 1>And it's really good.

483
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<v Speaker 3>He uses really cool clips, like you know, but I

484
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<v Speaker 3>started to notice that he's definitely leaning. He's completely defending

485
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<v Speaker 3>the Adam character and not really pushing Lena under the bus.

486
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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh.

487
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<v Speaker 3>So I said something I like, said something about it.

488
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<v Speaker 3>Let me find it because I've had a lot lately

489
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<v Speaker 3>of a lot of things lately, so give me one second.

490
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<v Speaker 2>Funny one were like, just because I've had a lot

491
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<v Speaker 2>to drink. So I've had a lot to drink. I'm

492
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<v Speaker 2>super drunk right now, we see, okay.

493
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<v Speaker 3>Okay, this is this is so he put up a

494
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<v Speaker 3>thing about how like avoidant. So Adam's recovering addict in

495
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<v Speaker 3>the show, right, and he's at an A A right,

496
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<v Speaker 3>and he's talking about all this stuff, and he's like,

497
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<v Speaker 3>I'm dating this girl, but like, she doesn't even fucking

498
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<v Speaker 3>care about me.

499
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<v Speaker 1>I don't even think she likes me.

500
00:22:07.519 --> 00:22:09.200
<v Speaker 2>She comes over and fucks me, but I don't really

501
00:22:09.279 --> 00:22:13.079
<v Speaker 2>She never ask me anything or whatever interesting stuff, So

502
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<v Speaker 2>that part's not important.

503
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<v Speaker 3>I write to the guy, this random doctor. I write

504
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<v Speaker 3>to this doctor PhD.

505
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<v Speaker 1>I said, I.

506
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<v Speaker 3>Love these clips, but implying that the anxiously attached person

507
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<v Speaker 3>is more toxic than the poor, misunderstood avoidant just does

508
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<v Speaker 3>not sit right at all with me. I think that

509
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<v Speaker 3>we've gotten too comfortable labeling everyone when we're mostly on

510
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<v Speaker 3>a sliding scale any way of attachment. I love the

511
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<v Speaker 3>conversation you're starting being so serious, but it's starting to

512
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<v Speaker 3>feel skewed unless I'm misunderstanding. Also, Adam was very charming

513
00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:46.480
<v Speaker 3>but extremely problematic on the show. He only wanted her

514
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<v Speaker 3>when he lost her.

515
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, good, good point.

516
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<v Speaker 2>He writes back, And he's being a little aged. He's

517
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<v Speaker 2>a little he's a little therapy jeffish if I may,

518
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<v Speaker 2>but just not grows like that. But he writes Cecily,

519
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<v Speaker 2>I specifically say, can you use your name?

520
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? He just accessly nobler.

521
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so yeah, I specifically say that mistreatment is possible

522
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<v Speaker 2>on both sides of the attachment spectrum, but not inevitably

523
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<v Speaker 2>simply because someone is anxious or avoidantly attached. There are

524
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<v Speaker 2>many anxious and avoid avoidantly attached people who treat each

525
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<v Speaker 2>other well. And then immediately because I'm very people pleasy,

526
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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, that's a very good point, hard

527
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<v Speaker 2>heart heart. I don't even really know what he's saying exactly.

528
00:23:28.359 --> 00:23:30.400
<v Speaker 2>I can play you the clip that he initially said,

529
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<v Speaker 2>but if he posts these clips a lot, and he

530
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<v Speaker 2>definitely is leaning towards defending avoidant attachers, and it's getting

531
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<v Speaker 2>a little ridiculous, right, I mean, you know, come on,

532
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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of people, a lot of people in

533
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<v Speaker 2>the comments are actually make such good points, like better

534
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<v Speaker 2>than mine, even find there was one that I like

535
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<v Speaker 2>kept liking because I thought it was oh yeah, here's

536
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<v Speaker 2>one that I liked, I loved.

537
00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:56.079
<v Speaker 3>They were like yeah, okay. But more often the pursuit

538
00:23:56.119 --> 00:23:58.599
<v Speaker 3>happens by the avoidant person. You know how many times

539
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<v Speaker 3>I've been through this?

540
00:23:59.359 --> 00:24:01.759
<v Speaker 1>Right? Yeah? Who doesn't seem avoidant at all?

541
00:24:01.839 --> 00:24:04.920
<v Speaker 2>In the beginning. It's the avoidant love bombing or avoidant

542
00:24:05.400 --> 00:24:10.119
<v Speaker 2>honeymoon phase. The anxious person is reluctant to start something new.

543
00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:12.599
<v Speaker 2>They're closed off and they want to slow it down

544
00:24:12.640 --> 00:24:15.640
<v Speaker 2>because they've been hurt so many times. The avoidant person

545
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<v Speaker 2>is the one who persists until the anxious person gives

546
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<v Speaker 2>them a chance, then starts to feel safe and relaxes,

547
00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:25.039
<v Speaker 2>and that's when the avoidant person loses interest and is gone,

548
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<v Speaker 2>which has a cumulative effect on the anxious person's psyche.

549
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<v Speaker 2>That's why dating is so exhausting for them. It's one

550
00:24:31.759 --> 00:24:34.319
<v Speaker 2>heartbreak after another. Isn't that so perfect? Yes?

551
00:24:35.839 --> 00:24:37.319
<v Speaker 1>But the guy doesn't and he's.

552
00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:39.519
<v Speaker 3>Like, well, I think the takeaway is that insecure attachment

553
00:24:39.559 --> 00:24:40.839
<v Speaker 3>can cause someone to love bomb.

554
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<v Speaker 1>He's still defending one avoidant person. He's still defending the

555
00:24:44.279 --> 00:24:48.599
<v Speaker 1>avoidant not taking, and they don't suffer I've read a

556
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<v Speaker 1>lot about this stuff. They really don't.

557
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you can say whatever, I've read so many

558
00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:55.640
<v Speaker 3>things about this, and they'll you know, they want certain

559
00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:57.359
<v Speaker 3>things and they feel sad they can't have them, but

560
00:24:57.640 --> 00:24:58.960
<v Speaker 3>they don't feel the same pain.

561
00:24:59.119 --> 00:25:01.440
<v Speaker 1>They are like, okay, by next right.

562
00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:04.039
<v Speaker 3>They feel a little guilt, they feel a little whatever,

563
00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:06.240
<v Speaker 3>but they don't have that's the whole thing. They'll admit that,

564
00:25:06.640 --> 00:25:08.599
<v Speaker 3>they're like, yeah, I'm not really thinking about her. They

565
00:25:08.599 --> 00:25:10.160
<v Speaker 3>just throw themselves on vacation.

566
00:25:10.279 --> 00:25:10.839
<v Speaker 1>And that's that.

567
00:25:11.400 --> 00:25:14.240
<v Speaker 2>I think we see this a lot on Love is Blind.

568
00:25:14.920 --> 00:25:18.640
<v Speaker 2>I know that's a weird reference point, but because the

569
00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:20.960
<v Speaker 2>name of the game is kind of love bombing, so

570
00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:24.880
<v Speaker 2>you don't know who's actually truly falling in love and

571
00:25:24.920 --> 00:25:28.960
<v Speaker 2>who's just I don't want to say yeah performance, but

572
00:25:29.119 --> 00:25:32.240
<v Speaker 2>who's like yeah, I love this idea and I'm like,

573
00:25:32.359 --> 00:25:33.000
<v Speaker 2>why are you?

574
00:25:33.400 --> 00:25:34.799
<v Speaker 1>Why are you not trusting me?

575
00:25:35.400 --> 00:25:37.319
<v Speaker 2>And then as soon as the person who's a little

576
00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:40.920
<v Speaker 2>more closed up starts trusting, like you said, then they're like, oh,

577
00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:42.440
<v Speaker 2>this isn't gonna work out.

578
00:25:42.720 --> 00:25:43.759
<v Speaker 1>You've seen me go through.

579
00:25:43.839 --> 00:25:45.559
<v Speaker 3>I'm like no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no no,

580
00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:47.799
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna just step back, it's all just fun.

581
00:25:47.799 --> 00:25:49.559
<v Speaker 1>We're having fun, you know whatever. And then they'll be

582
00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:51.680
<v Speaker 1>like so boyfriendly and.

583
00:25:51.599 --> 00:25:55.920
<v Speaker 3>You're like, oh, okay, well I guess well, like you know,

584
00:25:56.200 --> 00:25:57.920
<v Speaker 3>have you meet my friend or whatever, you know, and

585
00:25:57.920 --> 00:26:02.000
<v Speaker 3>then they're like, no, it's crazy. Someone else wrote this

586
00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:03.920
<v Speaker 3>last thing to be the last serious thing that we'll

587
00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:06.599
<v Speaker 3>move on is funny. But they said, from the extensive

588
00:26:06.599 --> 00:26:09.000
<v Speaker 3>amount of feedback I see online, this is just not correct.

589
00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:11.000
<v Speaker 3>They're saying to this guy, They're like, the avoidant is

590
00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:14.079
<v Speaker 3>much more damaging than an anxiously attached person because the

591
00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:18.440
<v Speaker 3>anxiously attached person allows for intimacy and trust to grow, which.

592
00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Are pillars of a healthy relationship.

593
00:26:20.200 --> 00:26:23.359
<v Speaker 3>By contrasts the avoidant, and they put in printheses usually

594
00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:29.680
<v Speaker 3>narciss's there's a fine line, will continue approach and avoidance, repetition, compulsion,

595
00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:31.880
<v Speaker 3>They get the ick, they get the pick, and they

596
00:26:31.880 --> 00:26:33.839
<v Speaker 3>pull back, even though they're the ones that were so

597
00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:37.440
<v Speaker 3>all in, which is a kind of a form of abuse.

598
00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:40.160
<v Speaker 3>As it pulls the it puts the effort on the

599
00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:40.680
<v Speaker 3>other person.

600
00:26:40.720 --> 00:26:44.519
<v Speaker 2>It negates natural growth, intimacy, yep, and trusts so that

601
00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:46.759
<v Speaker 2>the other person can assess their own feelings in a

602
00:26:46.799 --> 00:26:47.599
<v Speaker 2>timely manner.

603
00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:51.319
<v Speaker 1>So that's really this. People are really bringing it and

604
00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:51.720
<v Speaker 1>I like.

605
00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:56.400
<v Speaker 2>That, Yeah, but what but what of?

606
00:26:56.759 --> 00:26:59.960
<v Speaker 1>What of when you're the one who and what by you?

607
00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:03.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean I am sometimes that person, right, I mean

608
00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:04.880
<v Speaker 3>I talk about that a lot.

609
00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm anxiously if you.

610
00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:07.559
<v Speaker 3>If I had to have a label, it would be

611
00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:10.039
<v Speaker 3>anxiously anxious avoidant, which is very common.

612
00:27:10.599 --> 00:27:11.880
<v Speaker 1>So I get avoidant.

613
00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:14.440
<v Speaker 3>And I thought about that with someone a few years ago,

614
00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:17.799
<v Speaker 3>where they were really anxious and wanting to lock it down,

615
00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:20.160
<v Speaker 3>but on such a fast pace that it kind of

616
00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:23.839
<v Speaker 3>was just ridiculous, Like my anxiety comes out after a

617
00:27:23.880 --> 00:27:27.319
<v Speaker 3>couple months. I'm the one going step back, take your time.

618
00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:29.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know you. You know how we both are like.

619
00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know.

620
00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:33.480
<v Speaker 3>And then they say one funny thing and you're like, oh, okay,

621
00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:35.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm in but it takes a minute.

622
00:27:35.759 --> 00:27:36.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

623
00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:39.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm never like oh, But when it happened to me,

624
00:27:39.400 --> 00:27:41.200
<v Speaker 3>I just had to be the bad guy. I was

625
00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:43.799
<v Speaker 3>the villain and there was no way around it, and

626
00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:46.200
<v Speaker 3>I got like super freaked out. But I don't even

627
00:27:46.200 --> 00:27:48.759
<v Speaker 3>think I was being avoidant in that situation. I think

628
00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:51.960
<v Speaker 3>I was trying and it was just way too much,

629
00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:53.839
<v Speaker 3>way too fast.

630
00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:58.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I definitely do the thing well I you know,

631
00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:03.039
<v Speaker 2>before John, where I meet somebody and I think and

632
00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:04.279
<v Speaker 2>they're kind of love bomby.

633
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<v Speaker 1>But then I'm kind of like, oh my god, we're

634
00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:07.200
<v Speaker 1>so into it.

635
00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:11.720
<v Speaker 2>And then in less if they don't pull back okay,

636
00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:13.480
<v Speaker 2>because this is the only way it's ever worked out

637
00:28:13.519 --> 00:28:17.039
<v Speaker 2>for me. If they don't pull back, then I get

638
00:28:17.079 --> 00:28:21.000
<v Speaker 2>freaked out. Like if they keep it up, if they're like, no, no,

639
00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:24.640
<v Speaker 2>this is not just like early infatuation, like I'm really

640
00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:25.759
<v Speaker 2>into this, like let's do this.

641
00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Then I'm like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

642
00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:30.319
<v Speaker 1>whoa whoa.

643
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:32.200
<v Speaker 2>We got to slow this all the way down, Like

644
00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:35.519
<v Speaker 2>this person's crazy, they're too into me. But if they

645
00:28:35.559 --> 00:28:38.319
<v Speaker 2>pull back a little bit, then not even just a little,

646
00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:41.400
<v Speaker 2>like okay, I'm settled now, I like you, let's just

647
00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:44.559
<v Speaker 2>take it slow. Then I'm like, oh, absolutely not. Now

648
00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:45.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm obsessed.

649
00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:48.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a thing. You had the same thing I did.

650
00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:51.000
<v Speaker 3>You just locked into John, you just found you know,

651
00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:53.880
<v Speaker 3>somebody was able to kind of stand.

652
00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:56.640
<v Speaker 2>By it well because he did pull back, and then

653
00:28:56.680 --> 00:28:58.279
<v Speaker 2>I was like this is horrible.

654
00:28:58.319 --> 00:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Why is he pulling back? What did I do?

655
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:02.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh that I set about to try to prove myself

656
00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:03.960
<v Speaker 2>for the next two years.

657
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:06.039
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I was in a lot of long term

658
00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:08.640
<v Speaker 3>relationships where I guess it was more Johnish. It just

659
00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:10.759
<v Speaker 3>wasn't the right person. It could have worked had we

660
00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:13.640
<v Speaker 3>not had other issues. But I was in a very long,

661
00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:16.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, almost seven year relationship, and he kind of

662
00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:18.079
<v Speaker 3>did that at the beginning. He was very like organized,

663
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:20.680
<v Speaker 3>making plans, very into me, but then pulled back a little,

664
00:29:20.799 --> 00:29:23.079
<v Speaker 3>got me a little obsessed, but then was full on

665
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:25.319
<v Speaker 3>boyfriend for years and years, you know.

666
00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:28.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So my point being is I can do it.

667
00:29:28.400 --> 00:29:29.480
<v Speaker 2>It just wasn't the right guy.

668
00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:32.640
<v Speaker 3>Like, it wasn't like I was pulling back because you know,

669
00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:34.839
<v Speaker 3>I had very good reasons to be pulling back.

670
00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:37.880
<v Speaker 1>But I like this other comment that someone makes on this,

671
00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:39.359
<v Speaker 1>which is about.

672
00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:42.799
<v Speaker 3>We're over you know, Like on my comment, I said,

673
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:45.279
<v Speaker 3>I think we're over labeling. We're all just leaning too

674
00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:50.119
<v Speaker 3>hard into these like boxes. Someone is just like human nature,

675
00:29:50.160 --> 00:29:53.599
<v Speaker 3>We're just different. And someone's like, well, what's the healthy attachment?

676
00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:56.240
<v Speaker 3>Like my social media is filled with people labeling each

677
00:29:56.240 --> 00:30:01.119
<v Speaker 3>other manipulators, narcissists, avoidant, anxious. None of these terms were

678
00:30:01.119 --> 00:30:02.960
<v Speaker 3>even used when I was young. It was more like,

679
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:05.920
<v Speaker 3>this is just what you do, rather than this plethora

680
00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:07.039
<v Speaker 3>of things we shouldn't do.

681
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:08.359
<v Speaker 1>I think that's such a good question.

682
00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:11.759
<v Speaker 2>M hm. And he didn't. The doctor didn't write back

683
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:14.480
<v Speaker 2>for some reason. The doctor only wrote back to me. Oh,

684
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:16.759
<v Speaker 2>and someone said, yeah, it's funny, you know. Yeah, we

685
00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:20.640
<v Speaker 2>basically we don't talk a lot about that. And for

686
00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:21.160
<v Speaker 2>some of.

687
00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:24.000
<v Speaker 3>Us people that are have do you have issues like that?

688
00:30:24.119 --> 00:30:27.160
<v Speaker 3>Feels like the secure attachment can feel kind of boring.

689
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:31.000
<v Speaker 3>We don't understand it. We didn't whatever whatever theory you

690
00:30:31.079 --> 00:30:33.880
<v Speaker 3>believe it is, whether it's from your childhood or what like,

691
00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:36.559
<v Speaker 3>we just don't know it. So we we feel like

692
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:39.359
<v Speaker 3>it's nothing unless there's like a oh my god, where'd

693
00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:39.640
<v Speaker 3>you go?

694
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Right?

695
00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:44.079
<v Speaker 1>And then yeah, no, it's tricky. No.

696
00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:45.680
<v Speaker 3>For me, I just didn't like that this dude was

697
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:50.160
<v Speaker 3>leaning towards the you know, the Adam Driver character. Yeah, who,

698
00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:52.839
<v Speaker 3>by the way, is writing is jokingly going to write

699
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:55.920
<v Speaker 3>his own book to respond to Lena Dunham's accusations in

700
00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:56.680
<v Speaker 3>her book.

701
00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:00.359
<v Speaker 2>Yes, which should we remind people with her what the

702
00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:04.119
<v Speaker 2>accusations were, yeah, and I don't even think, to be fair,

703
00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:06.519
<v Speaker 2>that she meant it as crazy. You know, she's just

704
00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:08.880
<v Speaker 2>writing a book and it's probably that happened, you know

705
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:09.880
<v Speaker 2>one day on set.

706
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:12.200
<v Speaker 3>She and Adam were very close in real life. They

707
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:14.680
<v Speaker 3>filmed this show for a very long time. I loved

708
00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:16.279
<v Speaker 3>the show. I can't stress enough how much.

709
00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:16.559
<v Speaker 1>I love it.

710
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:19.720
<v Speaker 2>And she said that he got really mad once and

711
00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:21.640
<v Speaker 2>threw a chair at the wall, which is very much

712
00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:25.359
<v Speaker 2>his character, but not great m m. And she also

713
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:26.880
<v Speaker 2>said I think that they had kind of a little

714
00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:28.440
<v Speaker 2>bit of like will they won't they?

715
00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:33.039
<v Speaker 3>In real life? Right, He's just not responding, He's just like, yeah, no, thanks.

716
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:35.960
<v Speaker 3>Next question. I don't really know that there's much of

717
00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:38.559
<v Speaker 3>a story there, because I don't even think what she

718
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:39.799
<v Speaker 3>said was that big of a deal.

719
00:31:40.119 --> 00:31:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I don't know that I loved it. If

720
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:43.279
<v Speaker 1>it were me, I wouldn't have said it.

721
00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:47.359
<v Speaker 2>Does she have Does he have a reputation though from

722
00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:50.519
<v Speaker 2>other than her, of being like weird on sets?

723
00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:53.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't think so, and I don't think she does either.

724
00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:55.119
<v Speaker 3>I think, but you know, she has had issues. She

725
00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:58.119
<v Speaker 3>had issues with the showrunner. Remember she was twenty two

726
00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:00.720
<v Speaker 3>when she got that job right now, it was because

727
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:04.000
<v Speaker 3>Judd Apatow knew her parents right got her that got

728
00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:04.799
<v Speaker 3>him the pilot.

729
00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:07.279
<v Speaker 2>And I have read that pilot is perfect. It is

730
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:10.599
<v Speaker 2>literally a perfect pilot. I never like, it's a great

731
00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:12.240
<v Speaker 2>thing to read if you're trying to write a script.

732
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:13.200
<v Speaker 1>Mm hm.

733
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:17.119
<v Speaker 3>She just it is so good. And so she proved herself.

734
00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:20.240
<v Speaker 3>But she was very young. But if I'm writing a tell,

735
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:22.119
<v Speaker 3>if I'm writing a book and she's written a few, like,

736
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:24.079
<v Speaker 3>I don't think I would. I don't think I would

737
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:26.440
<v Speaker 3>throw ad him under the bus.

738
00:32:26.119 --> 00:32:28.680
<v Speaker 1>He like really helped. I don't know, would you? I mean,

739
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:31.279
<v Speaker 1>what do you think? Well, you know, speaking.

740
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:33.559
<v Speaker 2>As somebody who's written some books, sometimes you just get

741
00:32:33.559 --> 00:32:37.960
<v Speaker 2>into like actually, remember I and I've I've of course

742
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:41.039
<v Speaker 2>talked about this before, but remember when I was writing

743
00:32:41.599 --> 00:32:44.079
<v Speaker 2>one of my books. And Patrick Price will back me

744
00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:46.359
<v Speaker 2>up on this if he if he listens to every episode,

745
00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:49.880
<v Speaker 2>which he better, if he still loves me. But I

746
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:52.680
<v Speaker 2>had written a thing about remember about the Bare Naked

747
00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:56.519
<v Speaker 2>Lady story? Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, And I wrote it

748
00:32:56.559 --> 00:32:59.000
<v Speaker 2>because I was like a word count, you know, like

749
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:01.839
<v Speaker 2>I I got not I want to tell this story.

750
00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:07.319
<v Speaker 2>And then you know, Patrick was like, maybe not, maybe

751
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:09.640
<v Speaker 2>you're not going to love that you told this story

752
00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:12.319
<v Speaker 2>in there, and so I was forced to come up

753
00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:13.839
<v Speaker 2>with like something else.

754
00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:17.400
<v Speaker 1>But I remember just thinking, I don't care. I told okay,

755
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:19.559
<v Speaker 1>but let me push that so glad I didn't include

756
00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:21.279
<v Speaker 1>it now, yeah, and I'm gonna push back though.

757
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:23.440
<v Speaker 3>That's different. That was like a weird like that was

758
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:26.680
<v Speaker 3>a hookup that wasn't your co star that you were

759
00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:29.640
<v Speaker 3>really close to, who's continuing to work in this business,

760
00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:33.119
<v Speaker 3>who really didn't do anything that terrible, who like, for

761
00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:36.720
<v Speaker 3>no reason, even if you're not friends anymore, for no reason,

762
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:38.960
<v Speaker 3>you're going to throw his name into the thing. Like

763
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:42.000
<v Speaker 3>I like Lena Dunham. I've heard the book is awesome

764
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:44.400
<v Speaker 3>and I want to read it, so that's great, Like

765
00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:48.279
<v Speaker 3>that's so unnecessary. It's different. The Very Naked Lady's story

766
00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:50.480
<v Speaker 3>is different. Like when I wrote She's Crazy as a Liar,

767
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:52.759
<v Speaker 3>they wanted real stories, but I didn't use any real names.

768
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:54.720
<v Speaker 3>I did put in real stories, but I didn't use

769
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:58.039
<v Speaker 3>any names. And it was after the Russell Crow thing,

770
00:33:58.079 --> 00:33:59.680
<v Speaker 3>so I could have put that in, but I didn't.

771
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:01.880
<v Speaker 3>Although I think I implied. I think I like gave

772
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:03.079
<v Speaker 3>enough hints.

773
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:05.119
<v Speaker 1>I think I don't remember.

774
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:06.599
<v Speaker 3>Actually if I put that in. I think I tried to,

775
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:08.000
<v Speaker 3>so I don't remember if that made it in. But

776
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:09.920
<v Speaker 3>I was like, let me just tell you it was

777
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:11.840
<v Speaker 3>a movie star and he had a beautiful mind. And

778
00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:14.039
<v Speaker 3>I put that in quotes. Uh huh, yeah, so he

779
00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:17.599
<v Speaker 3>would otherwise. But also that was a complimentary story. There

780
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:20.519
<v Speaker 3>wasn't anything negative. I wasn't even like it was any

781
00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:22.599
<v Speaker 3>time I'd say anything was making fun of myself.

782
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:25.760
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't saying like, yeah, you threw a chair.

783
00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:29.960
<v Speaker 2>But let me push back. What if Lena Dunham sold

784
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:32.119
<v Speaker 2>her book really wanted to write another book, and they

785
00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:35.599
<v Speaker 2>were like, well, and let's just say she's in a meeting.

786
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:39.000
<v Speaker 2>This has happened to both of us many times. She's

787
00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:40.719
<v Speaker 2>in the meeting about the book and she's like, oh

788
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:43.440
<v Speaker 2>my god. And I could tell stories about like stuff

789
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:46.199
<v Speaker 2>you've never heard about, like inside Scoop about the set

790
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:49.880
<v Speaker 2>of girls, and they're like, oh, we're listening, I'm listening,

791
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:52.840
<v Speaker 2>you know. And then she's like, hmm, yeah, I mean

792
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:56.000
<v Speaker 2>just some stuff happened. I mean Adam Driver And they're like, okay,

793
00:34:56.119 --> 00:34:58.960
<v Speaker 2>we're giving you, you know, four million dollars strite this book.

794
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:01.719
<v Speaker 3>Don't you reach out to Adam Driver first and say, hey,

795
00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:03.960
<v Speaker 3>what do you remember about this? Are you okay with

796
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:06.239
<v Speaker 3>me writing about this? I mean, he seems like somebody

797
00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:08.800
<v Speaker 3>would be open to any you know, a lot of things. Yeah,

798
00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:12.000
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't you say that first. I think it's shitty.

799
00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:15.280
<v Speaker 3>Here's a little, little, little quick story.

800
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

801
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:19.599
<v Speaker 2>So I and I cannot use any names, but I

802
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:22.000
<v Speaker 2>have been helping somebody with their book.

803
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:22.679
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

804
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:25.800
<v Speaker 2>He was writing a story about his time on a

805
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:30.239
<v Speaker 2>TV show and it's so funny. I mean just just

806
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:32.960
<v Speaker 2>this is how, this is how people are. So again,

807
00:35:33.039 --> 00:35:35.559
<v Speaker 2>I cannot tell you anything about it because but the

808
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:38.320
<v Speaker 2>book is coming out. He wrote the book, and he

809
00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:42.400
<v Speaker 2>got the book deal, wrote the book, and he decided

810
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:44.960
<v Speaker 2>that one of the people that he worked with, so

811
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:49.280
<v Speaker 2>this was a let's just say it was a talk show, okay,

812
00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:52.039
<v Speaker 2>and one of the people that was like a character

813
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:55.679
<v Speaker 2>on the show, he was like, was just such an

814
00:35:55.760 --> 00:36:00.280
<v Speaker 2>incredible asshole. And I at the time was like, okay,

815
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:02.599
<v Speaker 2>but I don't you know, you got to be really careful,

816
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:05.960
<v Speaker 2>like you don't want to say something and then have

817
00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:09.039
<v Speaker 2>that person that person could sue you you know, and

818
00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:11.480
<v Speaker 2>he's like, oh no, no, no, it's fine, it's totally fine.

819
00:36:11.840 --> 00:36:14.559
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, okay, but it might not be fine,

820
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:17.079
<v Speaker 2>and then your book publisher might be like, yeah, we

821
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:18.840
<v Speaker 2>want this story in there, but then you're going to

822
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:19.960
<v Speaker 2>have to take responsibility.

823
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:22.440
<v Speaker 1>I try to. I tried to tell him. He didn't

824
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:22.960
<v Speaker 1>want to hear it.

825
00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Well when they when the book was it's in its

826
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:29.079
<v Speaker 2>final it's not out yet, okay, but when it was

827
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:31.880
<v Speaker 2>in its like final thing, you know, they has to

828
00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:34.400
<v Speaker 2>go through like a lawyer, and they're like, well, did

829
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:38.920
<v Speaker 2>you get this person's permission to say this? And he

830
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:42.320
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh no, you know, and they're like, well

831
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:46.519
<v Speaker 2>you have to so he so he was like, it's

832
00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:50.039
<v Speaker 2>going to be totally fine. So he wrote to the person, said, hey,

833
00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:52.800
<v Speaker 2>I wrote this thing about you in the book, like

834
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:55.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, you know, all just being funny, you know,

835
00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:58.760
<v Speaker 2>all all friends here, Okay. The thing that he wrote though,

836
00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:02.400
<v Speaker 2>was like what a race aging like narcissist asshole this

837
00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:06.039
<v Speaker 2>person was. And that was like, dude, they're not going

838
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:08.039
<v Speaker 2>to be okay with that, Like are you kidding?

839
00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:11.280
<v Speaker 1>And they weren't. No, of course, they were absolutely like

840
00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:14.119
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck? And so now he has to rewrite

841
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:14.960
<v Speaker 1>that part of the book.

842
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they were like, okay, he said about Adam. I

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<v Speaker 3>guess yeah, it's not Yeah, I guess it happened or

844
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<v Speaker 3>didn't happen. Like, it's not like she absolutely has to

845
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<v Speaker 3>have provision because she didn't get it and the book

846
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<v Speaker 3>was it came out right.

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<v Speaker 2>She's obviously he knows he did that, or he could

848
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<v Speaker 2>sue and he's not doing that. He's just not saying anything.

849
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<v Speaker 2>He's like, okay, like it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not the word. What she said isn't the worst thing.

851
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<v Speaker 2>But also some people are not that. Yeah, some people

852
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<v Speaker 2>are not going to be like they're not going to care.

853
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<v Speaker 2>It's like, probably that's your opinion. Probably isn't like other

854
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<v Speaker 2>people probably knew, you know. When they tried to ask

855
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Alison Williams, she was also on girls. They're like, what

856
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<v Speaker 2>do you think about this Adam allegation. She's like, I

857
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:52.559
<v Speaker 2>haven't read the book yet. She had the perfect answer, right,

858
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<v Speaker 2>I got to read the book. Let you know, she

859
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<v Speaker 2>not taken side. Yeah, she probably knew that.

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00:37:57.199 --> 00:37:57.519
<v Speaker 1>Adam.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he's a little I don't think he's nuts.

862
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<v Speaker 3>He's probably a little method. They've been they shot them.

863
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<v Speaker 3>It was six seasons or something.

864
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<v Speaker 1>But we're just talking about.

865
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<v Speaker 2>Whether it's worth it, Like, because this person who my

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00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:16.519
<v Speaker 2>person that I'm working with was wrote about also probably

867
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<v Speaker 2>did the things that he's saying they did.

868
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<v Speaker 1>So why can't you just say that, why can't they

869
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:23.920
<v Speaker 1>put it in there? He can? He can't. He could,

870
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:26.519
<v Speaker 1>but he could be also be sued. You don't have to.

871
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:29.079
<v Speaker 1>Then he has to prove that it was true. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I do have a little more on

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Driver.

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<v Speaker 3>I just asked AI because I think Adam Driver volatile

875
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:36.599
<v Speaker 3>on some you know, does he have issues on set?

876
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<v Speaker 2>They said? They bring up the Lena Dunham thing. Says

877
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<v Speaker 2>that he once, occasionally his temperament would go up. He

878
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<v Speaker 2>once punched a hole in a trailer wall and did

879
00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:47.280
<v Speaker 2>hurl a chair at the wall next to her head

880
00:38:47.639 --> 00:38:50.599
<v Speaker 2>during an intense rehearsal when she struggled to remember her

881
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:54.519
<v Speaker 2>lines about that that's not great, that's not great, and

882
00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:57.719
<v Speaker 2>the fact that's he knows that happened. In twenty nineteen,

883
00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I remember this an NPR interview walk out. He famously

884
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<v Speaker 2>walked out of an interview on NPR's Fresh Air after

885
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<v Speaker 2>the host played a clip of him singing. He later

886
00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:09.840
<v Speaker 2>explained he really dislikes listening to or watching his own performances,

887
00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:12.679
<v Speaker 2>and the format of the radio segment triggered his anxiety.

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<v Speaker 1>That's possible. I'd walk out to you. I wouldn't want

889
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:16.000
<v Speaker 1>to hear that shit.

890
00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:18.679
<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, please, now, that's annoy Imagine you're tired

891
00:39:18.719 --> 00:39:20.280
<v Speaker 2>and you're on a pressed tour and they're like.

892
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:22.519
<v Speaker 1>Listen to you singing from this thing. What do you

893
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:26.800
<v Speaker 1>think about your voice? Yeah? Yeah, I don't know. But

894
00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:28.519
<v Speaker 1>he's but that's the first thing.

895
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<v Speaker 2>Is pretty volatile and scary other co stars. Conversely, it

896
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<v Speaker 2>says many other co stars, such as Daisy Ridley, who

897
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:37.960
<v Speaker 2>worked on Star Wars with him, that I call it

898
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:41.360
<v Speaker 2>the Star Wars and crew members of publicly praise Driver,

899
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<v Speaker 2>describing has deeply focused, shy, respectful, highlighting a stark contrast

900
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<v Speaker 2>and his reputation among different colleagues. So, you know, I

901
00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:54.199
<v Speaker 2>don't know, you know, ah, it's all bullshit, It's all

902
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:55.480
<v Speaker 2>it's all good.

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00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:57.079
<v Speaker 1>You know. We could do though, we could do a

904
00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:00.519
<v Speaker 1>shout out to the people that make this podcast possible.

905
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<v Speaker 3>Let's do that, like our friend Randy may Ames and

906
00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:06.360
<v Speaker 3>Gail McDonald new name.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Hi, Gail, Welcome Gail McDonald.

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<v Speaker 2>I found a few people that's snuck in there, my god. Yeah,

909
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:18.559
<v Speaker 2>and Carolyn Bastian and Silvano Jimmetti and Sandra Green and

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<v Speaker 2>call it Rock and Patrick Price he got his here,

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<v Speaker 2>I got.

912
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<v Speaker 3>His shadow afore mentioned, Julie Turnbull, Victoria Blake, Andrea Crawford,

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<v Speaker 3>Dick Frolicker, Jean Vajepe and Carrie Maller.

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<v Speaker 1>We have more.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Karen Johnson Watson and Krista Elizabeth.

916
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<v Speaker 3>And Crystal Elizabeth and Athena Bouchard. We see we say hello,

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<v Speaker 3>Sean Price, my old friend. You just came up in conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll text you.

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<v Speaker 1>And Kate Donado. Yeah, I love all of you guys. Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>We have so much stuff going on over at rose Pricks.

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<v Speaker 1>This week.

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<v Speaker 2>We have We're going to be having I am having

923
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<v Speaker 2>a conversation with Dave Neil about Love Trapped, which is

924
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:04.639
<v Speaker 2>a crazy podcast about Clayton eckerd. So if you follow

925
00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:06.480
<v Speaker 2>our rose Prick stuff, you're not going to want to

926
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<v Speaker 2>miss that. And we're going to be after we finish here,

927
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<v Speaker 2>we're going to be recording with a woman who was

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<v Speaker 2>at who testified at the Michael Jackson trial.

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<v Speaker 1>No, this is incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a good get because we've been talking about

931
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<v Speaker 2>Michael Jackson a lot lately since the movie came out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've revisited the documentary and we had some questions.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is this is her point of view, So

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to miss. I think that will be

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<v Speaker 2>if you're listening on Monday. This will be tomorrow. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, thank you everybody, Thank you, Bye bye.
