WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:04.280 You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM 2 00:00:04.320 --> 00:00:05.120 six forty. 3 00:00:08.240 --> 00:00:11.679 From KFI AM six forty Handle here. It is a 4 00:00:11.880 --> 00:00:15.679 Tuesday morning, April twenty two. The big news we are covering. 5 00:00:16.800 --> 00:00:21.800 Pope Francis is still dead and they are going to 6 00:00:21.839 --> 00:00:26.480 be bringing him right He's probably on his way to 7 00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:30.719 the Basilica, the courtyard in front Saint Peter Square, as 8 00:00:30.719 --> 00:00:35.000 opposed to inside the Basilica where he is going to 9 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:38.840 be in front of the basilica, lying in state, which 10 00:00:38.880 --> 00:00:42.039 is the other way of saying. They're parking him right 11 00:00:42.119 --> 00:00:44.359 there in the basilica, where are in front of the 12 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:49.079 basilica where people are going to be passing his coffin 13 00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:55.920 and looking at the Pope as he continues his death. Okay, 14 00:00:56.359 --> 00:01:00.439 now it is time for Tech Tuesday with Mike Busky, 15 00:01:01.039 --> 00:01:04.920 who is the ABC News technology reporter who joins us. 16 00:01:05.159 --> 00:01:08.319 Mike is always thank you so much for joining us. 17 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:13.599 Now some enormously huge news which somehow has not gotten 18 00:01:13.640 --> 00:01:15.640 well we know why it has not gotten the attention 19 00:01:16.239 --> 00:01:19.359 that it should get because of the issue with tariffs 20 00:01:19.400 --> 00:01:22.200 and now the Pope, et cetera. But that is the 21 00:01:22.319 --> 00:01:28.840 trial of Google and the judge looking at it already 22 00:01:28.920 --> 00:01:29.920 viewed Google. 23 00:01:29.599 --> 00:01:32.480 As a monopoly. What is going on and what is 24 00:01:32.560 --> 00:01:33.280 going to happen? 25 00:01:33.680 --> 00:01:36.439 This, of course, is the Google search engine monopoly case 26 00:01:36.840 --> 00:01:39.680 decided last year by a judge who ruled that Google 27 00:01:39.719 --> 00:01:43.079 was operating an illegal monopoly in the world of online 28 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:46.000 search engines, that it wasn't just creating a product that 29 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:48.920 people liked to use and therefore was popular as a result, 30 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:52.760 but rather was using its market power, it's billions of dollars, 31 00:01:52.799 --> 00:01:56.640 it's troves of data with regards to how people search 32 00:01:56.799 --> 00:02:00.000 online to muscle out competitors and make for an anti 33 00:02:00.200 --> 00:02:05.400 competitive environment and therefore a less good competitive market for consumers. 34 00:02:05.680 --> 00:02:07.879 Okay, with that being said, let me interrupt for a moment. 35 00:02:08.039 --> 00:02:12.280 If the judge has already ruled that's the case, what 36 00:02:12.439 --> 00:02:13.560 is this trial about. 37 00:02:13.840 --> 00:02:14.520 This trial is. 38 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:16.919 About what to do about it. Essentially, this is how 39 00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:20.039 we figure out what the remedy of that monopoly is 40 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:22.120 going to be. This is expected to be a three 41 00:02:22.159 --> 00:02:24.879 week hearing. It kicked off yesterday in Washington, d c. 42 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:28.840 And there are many potential remedies on the table here. 43 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:32.159 The Department of Justice is going pretty big in this case. 44 00:02:32.560 --> 00:02:34.599 One of those remedies would be to force Google to 45 00:02:34.639 --> 00:02:37.719 sell off Google Chrome, which is their very popular web browser, 46 00:02:37.800 --> 00:02:40.280 also the driver of a lot of Google search traffic, 47 00:02:40.360 --> 00:02:44.000 about thirty five percent according to the federal government. They 48 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:48.400 are also targeting some of the deals Hello hello. 49 00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:51.080 Oh there you go. I'm sorry, we're we're glitching up there. 50 00:02:51.120 --> 00:02:52.039 So at the. 51 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:53.560 Tech Tuesday, you know that's gonna come. 52 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:54.599 That's part of Yeah, I know, I know. 53 00:02:54.639 --> 00:02:56.960 It's a great time for this thing to fall apart 54 00:02:57.039 --> 00:03:00.479 is on Tech Tuesday. So I think you had just 55 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:04.840 said that some of the remedies Chrome may go by 56 00:03:04.879 --> 00:03:06.120 the wayside, and what. 57 00:03:06.120 --> 00:03:09.680 Else Chrome could go by the wayside? Also, Google has 58 00:03:09.680 --> 00:03:13.159 spent many billions of dollars striking deals with Apple and 59 00:03:13.199 --> 00:03:17.240 Samsung and others to be the default search engine on devices. Right, 60 00:03:17.280 --> 00:03:19.240 so if you go to the Safari web browser on 61 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:21.240 your iPhone, you need to type something in, not a 62 00:03:21.240 --> 00:03:23.080 web dress or anything like that. You just type in 63 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:25.319 a term, You're going to do a Google search, right. 64 00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:28.840 And Google spends many billions of dollars for that privilege, 65 00:03:29.479 --> 00:03:31.919 according to the government, and according to a court, is 66 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:35.919 anti competitive because it doesn't give consumers the choice of 67 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:39.319 what search engine to use in that scenario. So the 68 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:42.919 government is asking a judge to force Google to unwind 69 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:45.840 some of those deals, and Google says that they're open 70 00:03:45.919 --> 00:03:49.759 to that possibility of potentially renegotiating some of those deals, 71 00:03:50.000 --> 00:03:52.680 despite the fact that they're a huge part of their business. 72 00:03:52.840 --> 00:03:55.120 But they say that going any further than that, forcing 73 00:03:55.159 --> 00:03:58.159 them to break up the company by selling off Google 74 00:03:58.240 --> 00:04:01.280 Chrome and to crack down on some other aspects of 75 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:04.479 their business, would be going too far. So that's what 76 00:04:04.520 --> 00:04:06.960 they have to decide in court this week. It's not 77 00:04:07.039 --> 00:04:09.400 the only anti trust trial that Google is facing. Just 78 00:04:09.479 --> 00:04:11.919 a few days ago, they were ruled to be operating 79 00:04:11.919 --> 00:04:15.120 an illegal monopoly in the world of online advertising as well. 80 00:04:15.400 --> 00:04:18.360 It's the second week of the Facebook anti trust trial, 81 00:04:18.439 --> 00:04:21.920 and the DOJ is also leveraging cases against Apple, the 82 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:25.319 FTC against Amazon Bill. What this means it's a tough 83 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:27.839 time to be a tech executive in twenty twenty five. 84 00:04:28.439 --> 00:04:33.680 Except there, Let's say they spin off these various companies. 85 00:04:34.399 --> 00:04:37.920 Now they're competing against those companies, and obviously if they 86 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:40.199 are spinning off and getting cash, they're going to be 87 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:42.120 so cash rich it's ridiculous. 88 00:04:42.120 --> 00:04:44.319 They're going to be able to buy entire countries. 89 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:51.519 But do you foresee legitimate competition well, and will they 90 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:53.279 stay and will they stay in the business. 91 00:04:54.079 --> 00:04:56.319 It's a good question, right. We don't really know what 92 00:04:56.399 --> 00:04:59.519 a future without a dominant Google search looks like. 93 00:04:59.720 --> 00:04:59.959 Right. 94 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:02.600 And Google has been making the argument in court that 95 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:06.319 spinning off Google Chrome would kill Google Chrome, right, that 96 00:05:06.399 --> 00:05:08.360 it just needs to be a part of Google in 97 00:05:08.439 --> 00:05:11.560 order to operate. There's also the question of who would 98 00:05:11.560 --> 00:05:13.639 buy it, right. Google is a one point eight trillion 99 00:05:13.720 --> 00:05:16.839 dollar company. A lot of that valuation comes from it's 100 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:20.439 cadra of services like Google Chrome. Who could afford a 101 00:05:20.519 --> 00:05:23.160 company like Google Chrome if they were to sell it off? 102 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:26.639 And would that attract the attention of antitrust regulators? Again, 103 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:30.160 So those are the questions that are facing the government 104 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:32.000 right now. That's kind of what they have to prove 105 00:05:32.079 --> 00:05:34.800 in court to this judge saying that this is the 106 00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:38.079 actual only remedy. It's actually really difficult to break up 107 00:05:38.120 --> 00:05:41.519 a company. That's not the way our system usually does things. 108 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:45.639 The plaintiffs in this case need to prove that that's 109 00:05:45.680 --> 00:05:48.000 the only option, right, They need to take every other 110 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:51.800 possibility off the table before a judge would ultimately side 111 00:05:51.839 --> 00:05:54.959 in that case. But even still the government is going 112 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:57.839 after them in that regard. Another big part of this 113 00:05:57.920 --> 00:06:00.319 is search engine data. Right every time you Google something, 114 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:02.639 Google learns a little bit about you and learns about 115 00:06:02.639 --> 00:06:06.399 the search engine habits of Americans. The Department of Justice 116 00:06:06.439 --> 00:06:09.319 is also asking a judge to make Google make that 117 00:06:09.519 --> 00:06:13.480 information freely available. Right now, it's proprietary to Google. One 118 00:06:13.519 --> 00:06:16.240 of the reasons they say that Google has become dominant 119 00:06:16.279 --> 00:06:19.560 is because other competitors don't have access to as wide 120 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:21.959 a trove of information as as ar Eagle does. 121 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:27.120 Mike Weird new truck out there that de Bezos is backing, 122 00:06:27.160 --> 00:06:29.879 What is this about? Because I love new you know, 123 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:33.600 we have not had years where nothing new. We have 124 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:35.600 had years where nothing new has come up, and then 125 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:39.199 the last few years it has exploded with new companies, 126 00:06:39.279 --> 00:06:41.240 new products, new vehicles. 127 00:06:41.240 --> 00:06:42.360 So what's this one about? 128 00:06:42.639 --> 00:06:45.079 Yeah, speaks to just how hard it is to build 129 00:06:45.160 --> 00:06:48.240 cars in the industry. But thanks to flush you know, 130 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:50.959 VC cash, there are now you know, a whole lot 131 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:53.680 of new startups kind of floating around out there. The 132 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:55.879 latest one is Slate Auto and this is one to 133 00:06:55.959 --> 00:06:58.079 keep an eye on this week. This is a new 134 00:06:58.120 --> 00:07:02.279 automaker that's promising a small, all electric pickup truck for 135 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:06.240 just twenty five thousand dollars. There's really nothing else out 136 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:08.439 there that is a pickup truck that is twenty five 137 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:12.000 thousand dollars that runs on battery power. There are vanishingly 138 00:07:12.079 --> 00:07:15.800 few cars out there for twenty five thousand dollars anymore, 139 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:18.519 and this is a pretty big promise. Tesla for a 140 00:07:18.560 --> 00:07:22.439 long time was promising a thirty five thousand dollars electric vehicle, 141 00:07:22.680 --> 00:07:24.959 but they were never quite able to get that over 142 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:28.600 the line. So this is a pretty ambitious project. But 143 00:07:28.680 --> 00:07:31.600 even still, speaking of that VC cash, this company has 144 00:07:31.639 --> 00:07:34.160 been able to raise over one hundred and ten million 145 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:38.040 dollars in Series A funding. One of those major investors 146 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:40.879 is Jeff Bezos, so some big names attached to this 147 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:44.839 and throwing their name behind this new company. What we 148 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:47.920 know about the truck is kind of sparse at this point. 149 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:50.879 There have been a couple prototypes, a couple mock ups 150 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:56.120 cropping up around particularly like trendy neighborhoods in Los Angeles 151 00:07:56.160 --> 00:07:58.720 for people to take pictures of, but there's no details 152 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:01.120 on it. In fact, one we're was able to climb 153 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:03.639 under one of those models and discover that there's actually 154 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:05.879 not an engine in it. It's just kind of a 155 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:08.000 model that they've put there for people to look at. 156 00:08:08.319 --> 00:08:10.720 We are expected to get more details on this thing 157 00:08:10.759 --> 00:08:14.560 when it is officially unveiled later this week on Thursday, So. 158 00:08:14.600 --> 00:08:16.560 We don't know when it is coming out. Any idea 159 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:20.160 or the range or the actual price. Is that a 160 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:22.560 We hope to be able to do it for twenty 161 00:08:22.560 --> 00:08:23.519 five thousand dollars. 162 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:26.680 I think we're going to get more information on all 163 00:08:26.720 --> 00:08:29.720 of those fronts on Thursday when it is officially unveiled. 164 00:08:29.839 --> 00:08:33.320 The target seems to be twenty five thousand dollars, and 165 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:36.279 they seem to be pretty committed to, if not exactly 166 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:37.559 that number, somewhere. 167 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:37.720 Close to it. 168 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:40.279 In fact, one of the early reports here indicates that 169 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:43.159 the car will have optional air conditioning, which when was 170 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:45.720 the last time that you remembered optional air conditioning in 171 00:08:45.799 --> 00:08:48.679 a vehicle? That seems to be a tactic that they 172 00:08:48.679 --> 00:08:51.600 are using to get this thing under that twenty five 173 00:08:51.639 --> 00:08:55.360 thousand dollars mark. It's really difficult, right, mass producing a 174 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:57.960 car at scale, especially when you're a startup, is an 175 00:08:57.960 --> 00:09:01.759 expensive proposition. Right. You have to contact suppliers, you have 176 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:04.919 to spin up factories, hire workers, do marketing and all 177 00:09:04.960 --> 00:09:07.360 that sort of thing that costs a lot of money 178 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:10.240 that's eventually transferred onto the cost of the car. Does 179 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:13.320 seem like there's some pretty deep pocketed investors behind this 180 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:15.879 company that might be able to absorb some of that cost. 181 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:18.639 But will this be a going concern will this be 182 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:21.159 something that lasts? I think that remains to be seen. 183 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:23.080 It's also going to be interesting for me to just 184 00:09:23.120 --> 00:09:26.080 look at, you know, who is this targeted at? 185 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:26.360 Right? 186 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:29.440 Is this an everyday person's car. Is this designed to 187 00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:31.840 be a commuter vehicle for people who you know might 188 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:34.279 need a small pickup truck like this, or is this 189 00:09:34.360 --> 00:09:34.960 for work? 190 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:35.200 Right? 191 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:38.279 Is this for small businesses? Some of the mockups that 192 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:41.159 have been cropping up have had little attachments to the 193 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:43.039 back of them to go over the bed of the 194 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:47.120 pickup truck, a little sort of coverings, or they kind 195 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:49.000 of make it look a little bit different. So it 196 00:09:49.080 --> 00:09:51.240 seems to be aimed kind of at small businesses and 197 00:09:51.279 --> 00:09:54.080 people who use the vehicle for that purpose, But again 198 00:09:54.159 --> 00:09:55.480 we just don't know for sure yet. 199 00:09:55.879 --> 00:09:58.480 How about those other companies that have come out. You've 200 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:03.000 got Rivian on, you have I'm trying to think about AID. 201 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:06.919 Yeah. Lucid, Yeah, I haven't even seen a Lucid vehicle 202 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:08.360 out there. I've seen some Rivians. 203 00:10:08.720 --> 00:10:10.559 Yeah, how are they? How are they doing? Is there 204 00:10:10.600 --> 00:10:12.759 anybody succeeding other than Tesla. 205 00:10:12.919 --> 00:10:15.600 Well, there's it's kind of an open question whether Tesla 206 00:10:15.720 --> 00:10:18.440 is still succeeding really. I mean, they have good point 207 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:20.919 to a point, but we are expected to get information 208 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:24.200 on their latest quarterly earnings later today. That's going to 209 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:27.480 be kind of our clearest look yet into the actions 210 00:10:27.480 --> 00:10:30.080 of Elon Musk and whether that's having an impact on 211 00:10:30.159 --> 00:10:34.240 his his electric vehicle business. With regards to Rivian and Lucid, 212 00:10:34.279 --> 00:10:36.559 those kind of seem to be the most prominent electric 213 00:10:36.639 --> 00:10:41.120 vehicle startups out there as opposed to Tesla. Rivian makes 214 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:44.960 electric trucks, Lucid makes an electric sedan. They are about 215 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:47.559 to bring an electric suv to market. I actually got 216 00:10:47.559 --> 00:10:49.679 a chance to drive it last week at the New 217 00:10:49.720 --> 00:10:52.759 York International Auto Show. It's a really interesting new product. 218 00:10:53.080 --> 00:10:55.720 They are backed by the Saudi Investment Fund, which is 219 00:10:55.759 --> 00:10:59.799 a hugely you know, wealthy investment fund out there, so 220 00:10:59.840 --> 00:11:03.120 they have some some backing behind them. But again they're 221 00:11:03.159 --> 00:11:06.799 not really making money just yet. Rivian, on the other hand, 222 00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:09.919 has major partnerships with the likes of Ford and used 223 00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:12.840 to be with Amazon as well. So it's really not 224 00:11:12.960 --> 00:11:15.399 even about settling a car and making you know, a 225 00:11:15.480 --> 00:11:18.639 margin on each individual vehicle. It's kind of about what 226 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:22.000 relationships that you're able to strike. So that's kind of 227 00:11:22.039 --> 00:11:23.879 where they find themselves right now. 228 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:27.799 All right, Uh, Mike, thank you always great information. You 229 00:11:27.879 --> 00:11:30.159 have a good day. You do too, take care all right. 230 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:35.639 I want to tell you about Milan Milon Pandy, who 231 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:38.159 is a business person and. 232 00:11:38.039 --> 00:11:40.120 This has to do with drones. Now. 233 00:11:40.240 --> 00:11:46.440 You know, drones are we're originally used for uh you know, observation. 234 00:11:47.559 --> 00:11:51.879 They would be used for, you know, photographing for example 235 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:56.600 of photographing real estate projects houses. I use the drone 236 00:11:56.720 --> 00:12:00.480 at my wedding to uh video part of the wedding, 237 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:04.759 and so they're used kind of it for everything. Here's 238 00:12:04.840 --> 00:12:10.759 one that you probably haven't heard of. Milan Pandy has 239 00:12:10.840 --> 00:12:15.919 a company that is using drone at Mount drones at Mount. 240 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:18.919 Everest and how does that work. 241 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:22.759 He's a drone pilot and what he's doing is probably 242 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:27.000 going to change things forever on Everest and other high 243 00:12:27.320 --> 00:12:33.720 very high mountains, Ladders, ropes, oxygen cylinder cylinders can be 244 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:38.720 transported via drone to aid the sherpas. The sherpa is 245 00:12:38.799 --> 00:12:42.039 helping the climbers on Mount Everest. You can't do it 246 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:46.279 without a sherpa. The most famous sherpa real quickly neil 247 00:12:47.039 --> 00:12:48.159 do do do do do? 248 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:50.080 Do do do do do the. 249 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:53.679 First man to actually the first man to actually go 250 00:12:53.759 --> 00:12:55.759 on top of Mount Everest. 251 00:12:55.799 --> 00:12:59.960 Everybody says it's Edmund Hillary. It was not. It was 252 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:08.720 the sherpa. His name is Tensig Norgay. In case you 253 00:13:08.759 --> 00:13:09.360 ever get. 254 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:12.759 It up with the no sherpa, no shoes, no service. 255 00:13:13.399 --> 00:13:18.840 Very good, very strong. In any case, keep me off 256 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:24.600 like nope, yep, nope. The Sherpas live up there in 257 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:30.879 the regions of Nepal and they are the guides. 258 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:32.519 They navigate. 259 00:13:32.600 --> 00:13:36.080 They set the trial for climbers half for seven decades 260 00:13:36.879 --> 00:13:40.960 and dozens have lost their lives. So pande Is company 261 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:48.840 is airlift Technology. He starts uh the local drone mapping startup, 262 00:13:49.679 --> 00:13:53.679 and he says that using drones combined with the sherpas 263 00:13:53.720 --> 00:13:59.000 decades of mountaineering knowledge, makes it safer to climb Everest. 264 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:01.960 Have you seen picture of Mount Everest during the season. 265 00:14:02.039 --> 00:14:06.679 Right now, it's the season for climbing. It is at 266 00:14:06.679 --> 00:14:11.360 the top of the mountain. There are hundreds of people 267 00:14:12.080 --> 00:14:16.000 waiting to climb the mountain. It's like a new ride 268 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:21.799 at Disneyland. The lines go on forever and it's dangerous 269 00:14:21.879 --> 00:14:25.879 because people wait for hours to get up there. So 270 00:14:26.120 --> 00:14:29.600 base camp is located at about seventeen thy five hundred 271 00:14:29.600 --> 00:14:33.919 feet above sea level. Camp one is at about twenty 272 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:37.519 thousand feet. The distance between the two points and you 273 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:40.000 have to go to base camp and then up to 274 00:14:40.399 --> 00:14:42.960 Camp one, and then you go to Camp two going 275 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:45.559 up the hill. Of course, the hill going up the mountain. 276 00:14:46.200 --> 00:14:49.279 The difference between the two points is one point eight miles. 277 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:53.919 It takes sherpas six to seven hours to make that 278 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:57.639 one point eight journey one point eight mile journey. It 279 00:14:57.720 --> 00:15:01.080 takes a drone six to seven minutes. 280 00:15:02.600 --> 00:15:04.080 To make that distance. 281 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:12.879 So if you think of drones delivering food, medical supplies, oxygen, 282 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:17.279 all of a sudden, you have a much safer way 283 00:15:17.279 --> 00:15:20.480 to climb mount efforts. Have you seen pictures of these 284 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:25.000 climbers and videos documentaries, They go past all these dead 285 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:30.440 bodies that litter the trails on Mount Everest. 286 00:15:30.519 --> 00:15:31.399 It's really weird. 287 00:15:32.120 --> 00:15:34.600 And they don't bring the dead bodies down because they 288 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:36.879 are dead weight, so to speak. 289 00:15:37.840 --> 00:15:39.000 It's super dangerous. 290 00:15:40.080 --> 00:15:41.879 All of it is super dangerous. I mean, there's so 291 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:47.399 much garbage. There is so much garbage going up the mountain. 292 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:52.159 They people, I think they found a body that they 293 00:15:52.519 --> 00:15:57.120 believe might have been somebody who reached the summit before Hillary. 294 00:15:56.799 --> 00:16:02.120 George Mallory, British, and they did find him, and they 295 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:05.039 didn't know whether or not he actually reached the summit. 296 00:16:05.679 --> 00:16:09.679 The last known sighting of George Mallory was seven hundred 297 00:16:09.759 --> 00:16:13.159 feet below the summit and at that point they don't know. 298 00:16:13.200 --> 00:16:16.679 And then he got fogged in and they don't know 299 00:16:16.720 --> 00:16:18.240 whether he actually reached the summit. 300 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:20.799 And then he fell with his. 301 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:26.360 Climbing partner, Irving, and he fell and they found they 302 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:32.120 did find his body, and it was and think about this, 303 00:16:32.120 --> 00:16:35.399 this was in the twenties, Brits. 304 00:16:35.639 --> 00:16:36.559 These guys are crazy. 305 00:16:36.639 --> 00:16:39.639 All the BRIT's early explorers to the or the Arctic 306 00:16:39.679 --> 00:16:41.480 and the Antarctic were all Brits and they were out 307 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:45.279 of their minds. So here goes George Mallory up the 308 00:16:45.320 --> 00:16:54.759 mountain and he's wearing wool woolen clothing, hobnail boots, big hemp, 309 00:16:56.600 --> 00:16:58.759 the hemp ropes. 310 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:02.519 It was they had oxygen, but it leaked. 311 00:17:02.559 --> 00:17:05.000 It was almost a waste of time because the early 312 00:17:05.079 --> 00:17:08.160 technology on the oxygen tanks, and that's how they used 313 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:11.279 to climb up the mountain. Today, of course it is 314 00:17:12.240 --> 00:17:16.480 the various parkas that are made out of artificial material 315 00:17:16.559 --> 00:17:17.920 and they're warm as hell, and. 316 00:17:17.880 --> 00:17:20.839 You have the proper boots, and you have the ropes 317 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:21.920 that are. 318 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:26.519 Very very thin made out of nylon, and then the 319 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:32.000 grandpas that they hammer into the rock and its or 320 00:17:32.039 --> 00:17:36.319 the crampons. That's it, and it's just a whole different 321 00:17:36.359 --> 00:17:41.359 world in any case. So technology in terms of gear 322 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:45.119 that they used to climb up the mountain today is 323 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:48.279 a million miles ahead of what happened, what was around 324 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:53.000 in the twenties when George Mallory was climbing, And now 325 00:17:53.039 --> 00:17:58.319 they're adding drones to it to deliver emergency supplies, deliver food, 326 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:02.000 also grab garbage from. 327 00:18:01.839 --> 00:18:04.640 The mountain, bring down used oxygen tanks. 328 00:18:06.519 --> 00:18:09.359 Every drone can go up there and bring down sixty 329 00:18:09.400 --> 00:18:13.000 six pounds of trash and they already have brought down 330 00:18:13.039 --> 00:18:18.000 eleven eleven they've already brought down how many eleven hundred 331 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:21.000 pounds I believe, which is just a drop in the bucket. 332 00:18:21.839 --> 00:18:24.759 But now it's going to happen more and more, the 333 00:18:24.880 --> 00:18:31.680 use of drones. By the way, that George Mallory story, 334 00:18:31.960 --> 00:18:32.960 I watched Jeopardy. 335 00:18:33.920 --> 00:18:34.920 That's how I knew that. 336 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:40.519 I don't know how you do it. You forget the 337 00:18:40.559 --> 00:18:45.160 most basic things. You bring your your iPhone to me 338 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:47.519 all the time. How do I answer email? 339 00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:51.079 Again? You ask I can't charge my car. 340 00:18:51.759 --> 00:18:54.759 There's so much you can't do, and then you have 341 00:18:54.960 --> 00:18:58.759 these dumb ass facts in your head from the twenties. 342 00:19:02.680 --> 00:19:07.960 Okay, that's theirst plot. Well there you go, yes, you 343 00:19:08.079 --> 00:19:10.519 lose the yes. All right. 344 00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:15.359 We're going to end the show with the Education Department, 345 00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:19.599 soon to be the non Education Department. And this has 346 00:19:19.640 --> 00:19:22.480 to do with what the Trump administration is doing. 347 00:19:22.519 --> 00:19:24.599 Two students who are in default. 348 00:19:25.880 --> 00:19:29.519 There are more than five million borrowers in this country 349 00:19:29.519 --> 00:19:33.119 who are in default and owe money to the Feds, 350 00:19:33.440 --> 00:19:37.240 because these are federal student loans that have not been 351 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:40.799 paid back to the point where already indeed at default, 352 00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:41.279 which is. 353 00:19:43.319 --> 00:19:46.200 This defined as two hundred and seventy days without payment. 354 00:19:46.880 --> 00:19:52.319 Now pandemic hits and a moratorium is put into place. 355 00:19:54.960 --> 00:19:58.440 Biden puts in a moratorium, saying everything is on hold. 356 00:19:58.519 --> 00:20:01.880 Interest is on hold, payments are on hold. And now 357 00:20:01.920 --> 00:20:05.400 the government is saying, okay, we're done with that. It's 358 00:20:05.440 --> 00:20:09.200 time to start paying back. And if you don't pay back, 359 00:20:09.240 --> 00:20:12.799 we're gonna garnish wages. We're gonna take money from your 360 00:20:13.759 --> 00:20:16.920 tax refund, which is what they do. And of course 361 00:20:16.960 --> 00:20:21.039 there's an uproar. How dare you do that, you government. 362 00:20:20.599 --> 00:20:21.359 Of the United States? 363 00:20:21.400 --> 00:20:25.319 You Trump administration? Well, how long does a moratorium continue? 364 00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:30.559 That's my question? Forever? So you don't have to pay 365 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:31.599 back your loan. 366 00:20:32.319 --> 00:20:35.119 Boy, wouldn't you like to borrow money under those terms 367 00:20:35.960 --> 00:20:37.640 where you don't have to pay it back? 368 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:40.920 Where do I sign up for that one? Because when 369 00:20:40.920 --> 00:20:43.279 I borrowed money to go to school. 370 00:20:44.240 --> 00:20:46.680 Damn it, they asked me and they forced me to 371 00:20:46.759 --> 00:20:49.200 pay it back with interest. 372 00:20:50.279 --> 00:20:51.480 And so here's the argument. 373 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:55.759 You've got those people in favor of the students, former 374 00:20:55.799 --> 00:20:58.720 students who say it's a different world today. 375 00:20:59.559 --> 00:21:01.480 The mount of money you have to borrow. 376 00:21:01.279 --> 00:21:04.839 To have an education, to get an education is astronomical. 377 00:21:05.960 --> 00:21:10.160 The chances of getting a job are minimal compared to 378 00:21:10.200 --> 00:21:13.039 what it used to be. It used to be you 379 00:21:13.079 --> 00:21:15.920 borrowed money, you went to school, you graduated college, you 380 00:21:15.920 --> 00:21:18.680 got a job. It used to be when I went 381 00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:22.240 to law school, you graduated, you generally got a job, 382 00:21:22.279 --> 00:21:23.279 except I couldn't get one. 383 00:21:23.400 --> 00:21:24.920 So therefore I went out on my own. 384 00:21:25.359 --> 00:21:28.119 And because I'm a hustler, it's because I couldn't get 385 00:21:28.160 --> 00:21:29.400 a job in any law firm. 386 00:21:31.200 --> 00:21:34.559 And fine, that is the argument. 387 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:41.519 You have, too bad, what do you expect then don't 388 00:21:41.519 --> 00:21:45.319 borrow the money. Figure out another way of doing it, 389 00:21:46.000 --> 00:21:50.640 because allowing you to not pay or to extend, let 390 00:21:50.640 --> 00:21:53.519 me tell you how crazy it was under the Biden administration. 391 00:21:53.960 --> 00:21:56.599 If you paid your loan, if you made your payments 392 00:21:56.680 --> 00:21:58.680 over ten years, the rest of it was forgiven. 393 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:03.640 How do I sign up for that one? 394 00:22:05.079 --> 00:22:08.559 So what the Trumpet administration is saying, hey, welcome to reality. 395 00:22:08.759 --> 00:22:09.720 Welcome to the. 396 00:22:09.599 --> 00:22:13.519 Real world where you actually have to pay back your 397 00:22:13.599 --> 00:22:15.480 loans and if you're in default, we're going to go 398 00:22:15.559 --> 00:22:22.319 after the money. So I completely agree with what's going on. 399 00:22:22.920 --> 00:22:25.160 The Education department, well, it's not going to be an 400 00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:28.240 education department very long. Well, what used to be the 401 00:22:28.359 --> 00:22:33.160