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Speaker 2: Do Yo Yo Yo? What's up? Welcome everybody. Y'all liking

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this new setup? I hope so. So. We are going

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to be covering a couple of films that you might

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be surprised we haven't covered yet. And we're a full

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on podcasters now because we have a double microphone and

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Speaker 1: Works two microphones. Check check can you hear me on

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Speaker 2: I think we're doing good.

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Speaker 1: We're fancying now nice moving on.

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Speaker 2: Now, show everybody your special T shirt that you're wearing.

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Speaker 5: We're doing They.

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Speaker 2: Can't see that. It says you're my national treasure. And

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he's smiling from his vampire movie.

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Speaker 1: This is the first Christmas present you ever got me

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when we met we were dating.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I hope you guys like it. We already got

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some members what's up to Daniel? What's up to.

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Speaker 4: U?

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Speaker 2: Sito? What's up to super colifragilistic gorilla tones? And we

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got average redhead.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna steal the Declaration of independent I'm gonna steal

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the Declaration of Independach.

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Speaker 1: What do you think I'm going to kidnap the president.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to kidnap the president. I'm gonna steal Milania

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the first lady. I'm gonna feed a ram noodles in

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a page?

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Speaker 2: Is this good? Are you comfortable? By the way, thank

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you to the guys who super chattle last night. I

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wanted to do hades on dat I missed his super

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pondering meta fe No, we did that one. I think

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super chats. All right, So why have we not done

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National Treasure? I'm not exactly sure. I mean, it feels

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like something that we should have done. I think I

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mentioned it on a Boiler Room livestream maybe five years ago.

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And sometimes these you know, esoltery classics, we just kind

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of bypassed and we actually forget them. So but we're

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here to do it now, and before we kick it off,

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here's the weird thing that happened. When we started watching

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the movie. I was like, I bet you there's gonna

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be some reference to the book that Jamie read, because

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Jamie read like a seven hundred page book on five

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or six hundred how many It was like five hundred,

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five hundred page book on the architecture and symbolism of DC.

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lot of the esltary stuff.

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Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, it's called Secret Architecture of Our Nation's Capital

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and it's on my member sex on my channel if

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you want the whole two hour long book report where

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we're going to go over some of the highlights. Because

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the book popped up in the freaking movie. That's so crazy.

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Speaker 2: I had a feeling. I was like, I wonder if

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this movie relates to that book. And then when Nick

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Cage goes into the bookstore in DC when he's gonna

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steal the Declaration of Independence, sure enough, right by the

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checkout counter when he's got the fake Declaration of Independence?

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Is this book? And Jamie didn't believe me. It was

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for I was like, that's your book She's like no.

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Speaker 2: What was it saying?

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So so we finally come to it. And there's a

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couple of books also that I think irrelevant to this

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because we have discussed the esoteric history of America. We've

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talked about Freemasonry, the Enlightenment, We've talked about all the

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secret societies that were involved in the founding of the

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US many times in many podcasts. But there's a key

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text that deals with this from the actual Congressional Librarian

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archivist James H. Billington. That's Firing the Minds of Men,

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the History of the Revolutionary Faith, and this gets into

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Jamie and I actually did a podcast years ago on

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Manly P. Hall's Secret Destiny of America where we get

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into the nitty gritty of the esoteric idea of America

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as the new Atlantis, et cetera, et cetera. Do you

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Speaker 1: Let's say to do both as we can own. Yeah,

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it's on we can talk about DC itself.

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Speaker 2: So all right, so let's let's get to the first

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one then. So it was it was a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of.

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Speaker 2: We got to go back in time to the Civil War, right, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well it was interesting because it's also about bloodlines,

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and it gets back into that in the second part.

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So Nicholas Cage is in this long line of Mason's

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and Patriots, and that's part of the story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So in the beginning, we have this sort of

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Goonies like scene where young Nick Cage, who is played

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by a child actor that looks absolutely nothing like Nick

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Cage whatsoever. So he decides that he's gonna go looking

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in his granddad's treasure chests up in the attic and

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he finds what was it a map or something. He

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Speaker 1: Now, he finds the book that reminded me of Never

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Speaker 2: So it was like that, Yeah, and he we have

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this montage of a flashback right where he goes back

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to the time of the Revolutionary War, right, and the

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Revolutionary War he gets his hands laid on him by

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his granddad, his Masonic granddad's Masonic succession here, and we

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find out that Charles Carroll, who was one of the

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Catholic signers of the declaration. Turns out Charles Carroll, according

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to the film, was a Freemason. I don't know if

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that's actually true though, because he was. They were committed

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Roman Catholics. They're one of the few Roman Catholic families

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early on. Now it's possible that the Carols were also Freemasons.

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was an odd reference. But right away we see Christopher

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where and it turns into the myth of the Templars. So,

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in other words, America is this lineage from ancient Egypt

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which is like straight out of Manly p Hall type mythology.

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Speaker 1: Well, I just think it's interesting how a lot of

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people are fighting right now who is an American and

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who's like a heritage American who deserves to be called American?

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What is all this? And they have no idea about

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any of this history of the Masonic Revolutionary War, or

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that the Enlightenment ideals or anything like that. So it's like,

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do you believe in Atlantis? That's part of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, certainly a lot of the people who

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in some of these Rosicrucian esoteric Masonic principles. I don't

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think all of them did. But you know, you have

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this connection to the Templars. But I've never understood why

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there is supposed to be a connection to the Templars.

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I'm aware of the Templar mythology and the whole story.

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I've read two or three books on the history of

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the Templars. So I know that the narrative, but I actually,

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as I get older, I tend to think, no, this

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is actually just something concocted by Free Masonic groups to

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give a kind of an ancient lore to their subversive

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revolutionary society. Hence, we're the builders. We go all the

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way back to Hiramobiff, we all go all the way

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back to the builders of the pyramids, you know. And

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they actually make reference in this early sequence too. The

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Templars knew the quote secrets of the ancient Freemasons and

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Speaker 1: Well, so this starts in the Revolutionary War, and the

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sequel starts in the Civil War. Right, So if you're

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going back to the secret architecture of our nation's capital book,

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this kind of starts out before Washington, DC was even

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a thing. And it used to be called foggy Bottom

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because of the like pesti mudflats. So it really was

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a swamp right muddy, yes, like the mud flats on

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like a fat girl's butt or something.

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Speaker 1: No, the mud flats. So DC itself is built on

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Speaker 2: It's a swamp to drain.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and that's why they would say drain the swamp.

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And it was like literally known for its deafening frog

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uh and cough inducing mists. Yeah, frogs like frog's croakie

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like deafening frog.

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Speaker 1: Deafening frog. Yeah, it was hypnotodet but then it was

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called Funkstown after a Dutch settler named Jacob Funk. But

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then when they're building it, you have to notice that

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there are twenty zodiacs in Central DC and that's like

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way more than any other city. And this secret Architecture

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spends hundreds of pages talking about how the city was

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built as a like a body of a god or

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a goddess to hold these people in its womb. And

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so he talks about the Egyptian hieroglyphs that seemed to

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American flag, which is like serious or serious b right,

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there's whole books written about that. And then the other

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part of this is electricity. So this is also a

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new thing that's going to be incorporated into the city

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because of Benjamin Franklin. And it was going to be

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like this new era of light or lucifer, right with

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electricity and this new city that they built from the

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ground up. And also goddess worships. So there's a giant

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allegorical female statue of America which is on the capital dome.

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Speaker 2: Freak, yeah, coming again to say the mother freaking day America.

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We've all forgotten that. Is there more? I don't want

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Speaker 1: Oh, there's way more.

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Speaker 2: Like there's like, okay, we let's follows real quick there,

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because this is the book Jamie's talking about that she

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read what last year or a year ago, Yeah, David

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o'vasin's big book, Secret Architecture of Nations Capital. So this

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is not a conspiracy text. It's more of a historical

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architecture book. But yeah, Columbia, Lady Liberty, right, These were

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all sort of allegorical representations of the goddess. And this

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idea of the whole city being laid out like a man,

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that's from Plato's Republic, right, that's the esoteric idea that

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the whole city is a kind of embodiment of the

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macrocosm in the microcosm, so the body of a man

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is the structure not just of the city or Plato's

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perfect republic ideal city, but also it's the structure of

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the universe in the Timaeis. So this whole esoteric idea

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Speaker 1: Well, the Egyptian temples were also built on this idea

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that this is like the as above, so below like

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microcosm macrocosm of a man.

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, this is an old principle. It's in Saint

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Maximistic Confessor, it's in the Orthodox Church Fathers, it's in Plato,

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it's in you know, it goes back to the Hermetica.

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It's an ancient idea and it's decided mystical correspondences. But

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which I didn't know about, was the zodiac stuff. Why

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was there a zodiac? You said the cities laid out

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with zodiacs or they're just buildings.

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constellation Virgo. So all of these zodiacs point to Virgo

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the Virgin, which he is equating with the God series

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of course that Freemasons were involved in all this architecture

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of DC for sure, and they even bring this up

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in the film, which is interesting because I think to

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some degree this book had to play a role in

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the crafting of the narrative of National Treasure One, because

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there's clues in the architecture. There's clues in all the DC,

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like the layout of DC. A lot of this I

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didn't remember, right because I haven't seen this film in years,

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and to go back and watch it, and actually there's

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quite a bit of details, even though this is a

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corny Disney, you know, version of Indiana Jones, but just

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with Nick Cage, there was a little bit more in

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it than I remembered. And it gets pretty it gets

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fairly esoteric, more than you would think.

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Speaker 1: Oh, electricity didn't come until the eighteen eighties, but the

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esotericis held this idea that the electricity would promote a

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new life for mankind and it was a change in

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the nature of humanity, and it was like this intellectual electricity.

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cattle prods back in the seventeen hundreds.

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Speaker 1: But it's the time of the Enlightenment, is what we're

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trying to talk about.

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Speaker 2: The you gotta so also the uh there's an immediate

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reference to the all seeing eye on the dollar bill,

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like right away, so that they pack all of this

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of Masonic conspiracy stuff into like the first five minutes,

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which was interesting. I didn't recall any of that, but

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Cage is named Benjamin Gate after Benjamin Franklin. As we said,

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Ben Franklin was of course a member of the hell

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Fire Club to some degree of kind of a Satanist,

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it appears. And also the term Gate in Freemasonry is

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very important in their symbology. It signifies Yakin and Boaz,

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the two pillars of the temple, and it's a symbol

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or an image of initiation. So the idea is that

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it's enlightenment. And that's exactly why in the film you

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see Nick Cage carrying the torch, because he is carrying

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the Torch of Liberty or Lady Liberty.

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Speaker 1: And you're gonna hear a lot of like the Golden Age,

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Age of the Sun, stuff like that when you're talking

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about Enlightenment. They called this the Age of the Sun.

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that was on a grid of streets oriented on a

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north south line. Is said in a fashion historians trace

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to Rome or Babylon. So in my talk at our conference,

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it was called from Rome to Washington, d C. And

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the Roman Empire into District of Columbia itself.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the founders, you know, and the builders,

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so to speak, they were looking back to previous civilizations.

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even perhaps Babylon and you know, the great cities of old.

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this Republican flavor. And if you go back and watch

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National Treasure, one thing again that stands out that I

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didn't recall was these constant references that Nick Cage May

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and John Boyd and Riley as well to the importance

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of the American Democratic Revolutionary principles, and they keep going

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back to it, they keep her referencing it. For example,

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when they're about to steal it, Nick Cage starts telling

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Riley this sort of prosaic, you know, emotional moment about

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how we don't need kings anymore, and we decided that

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no man should have that much power, no one should

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have that much wealth. There's almost this like coded revolutionary

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communistic element to it, because the treasure actually ends up

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being literal, you know, hordes of gold that Nick Cage

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says that nobody should have, No one man should have

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all of that when he tells that to Harvey Kattell,

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the FBI agent, who we also find out is a freemason.

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But the other thing that doesn't that I didn't recall

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was that there's a reference to Nick Cage's bloodline, and

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his bloodline is very important in the film, even to

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the point that early on when they're looking for the

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pipe that's hidden in the sunken ship the Charlotte, they

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find this pipe and in order to decode it, he

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pricks his finger and uses his blood, and so you

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have this bloodline symbolism that's constantly referenced, and even in

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He wants to protect his bloodline, even though he doesn't

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have children, which is odd because he seems to be

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sort of a player, we learn at first before he

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meets Diane Krueger, But even when he marries Diane Krueger,

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they don't have kids yet. Maybe in Part three, which

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maybe he'll have some little nicks. But what do you

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make of the references to the bloodline. He puts his

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blood on the pipe code or the pipe cipher, and

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they find out that there's this weird sort of Jordan

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Maxwell word play at work. We'll talk about that in

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a second. But actually ciphers and codes and all that

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that does have quite a bit of pedigree from the

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Masonic societies if you go back to the origins of

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say the pig Pen's Cipher that comes out of Freemasonry.

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So there is a lot of actual accurate history in

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this ridiculous movie. That kind of surprised me. I don't

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think there is like a secret magic pipe that you know,

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you decode with your blood, But what do you think

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of the bloodline imagery with Benjamin Gates.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember that Burke's peerage.

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Speaker 2: Of course, I've looked up the dyers in burs oh.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah. What they figured out was that all

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of the presidents are related to British Royalty. And I mean,

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if you're in the conspiracy realms, you're gonna come across that.

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You know, America is a corporation of the British Crown

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and the Maritime Admiralty Law and like all of the

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Jordan Maxwell stuff. So I think it's just kind of

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like a note to that, a nod that this is

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an extension of the crown. Still, what do you think

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through freemasonry?

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Speaker 2: I mean, as possible, I think that there really was

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a war for independence. I don't think it was all fake.

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I mean the Queen supported the South, which we'll get into,

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which does actually come up in part two, and that's

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that's accurate. But the first thing that stood out as

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kind of absurd, other than the templar stuff, was when

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was when he's sitting there with Sean it was seen

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Bean and they're trying to decode the pipe and they're

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sort of bantering about these different possibilities for wordplay and

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the reference on the pipe is something like the iron pen,

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and they they do a little wordplay and iron pen,

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and then Riley says like a penitentiary, and then Nick

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Cage says a resolute pen the Declaration of Independence. This

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is how he figures out Declaration of Independence was that

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it was penned with iron resolution. So it's like literal like, uh,

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the birth of a ship.

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Speaker 6: And of course if you look at the birth of

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the ship, the birth is where you are born through

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your mother's water and the ship sails upon water.

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Speaker 2: It's just like retard level wordplay, skitzo level world. But

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this is what schitzos do, Like they can't understand like

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reference like definitions of words. They mean different things in

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different contexts, So then like a schizo will think that

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the word has the same reference, and then they'll metaphysically

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like make every reference the same. That's how you get schizo.

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Speaker 1: I forgot I was gonna say, I was.

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Speaker 2: Talking schizo level wordplay. Tara Dactyle, Jordan Maxwell, Okay, that's okay.

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You don't have to talk if you forget to get

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your ideas. So uh, and I wouldn't be surprised if

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if when Disney was crafting this. They didn't actually go

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watch them Jordan Maxwell videos about the secret Destiny of

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America or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Again no, wa uh Jordan Maxwell.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's the.

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Speaker 1: That's the kind of one of the annoying things about

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this movie, not that there is many, but they already

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know everything right off the bat, like he's a human Google.

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And that's what I hate about Dan Brown and that

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character Robert Langdon Langdon is that he just always knows

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everything right off the bat, and there's no whimsical way

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that they find out the clues.

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Speaker 2: Well again, I mean there is an accurate reference at

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the beginning to the All Seeing Eye and that so

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all of that conspiracy candy kind of sets the stage

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for the rest of the film home, which I have

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to admit, like I really thought National Treasure one held

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up really well, it's almost twenty years ago. It is

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twenty years ago. Basically, it's still pretty funny. Riley and

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Nick Cage's banter is pretty funny. Nick Cage acting insane

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as he always does, is very entertaining. But they also

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make reference to the architecture in the layout of DC.

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They said it was a Masonic plan and structure, and

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I'm sure everybody's probably familiar with this, But do you

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want to if you want to look at some of

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your notes right there that you want to talk about,

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I'll look up the DC layout.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, it says the Capital Dome is the center

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of a compass where the arc of the sunset is

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centered and marks the point where the equinoctial and soul

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steel points meet and are reconciled. As above. So blow

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they call the dome the spiritual full crumb of Washington.

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And if you go to the Egyptian a obelisk, a

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dome and a pentagram is the Howard glypher serious.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, Well, if you look too, you'll notice the the uh,

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there is all kinds of Masonic stuff all over DC. There's,

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as Jamie's bookcare points out right, like if you go

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you'll find these like mysterious bricked up doors. I've seen

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a lot of those in DC. Last time I went.

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I noticed a lot more of this than I had

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ever cared to notice. But you also have what the

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House of the Temple right, which is the sort of

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the big grand lodge there in d C, which I

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know you've been to. But this is where everybody who

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is invited to the thirty third degree after the thirty

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second degree goes.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, this is actually Albert Pike's temple and he

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is buried there, so we can talk about that in

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the part too. But I guess the point about DC

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and it's arc texture that we kind of want to

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like drive home is that they are it's a goddess

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worship architecture, and it's centered on Virgo, which he's equating

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with series, but in a quasi Christian way. He said,

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you could also interpret it as the Virgin Mary.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean to the Freemasons, they just sort

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of mash all of these symbols together and they're the

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original Schitzos that make the symbology whatever they want it

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to be. Right. For example, my classic favorite example is

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the Freemasons, the one that say that the word Solomon,

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the name of Solomon is sol like sol invictus Ohm,

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which is what the Buddhist chant and on the Egyptian

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deity that is not what the name Solomon means. Those

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total nonsense, total Schitzo retardation. Shalom is the name, it

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means peace, and Hebrews had nothing to do with the

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other deities of other religions. But it is correct that,

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as you'll know, is here you have the square in

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the compass in d C. It is laid out this

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way by design. It was designed in a kind of

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a Masonic way. Here's another pentagram that was designed in

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DC there, so you know, this is kind of old

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school conspiracy hat type stuff, but it is relevant to

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mention that it is designed intentionally in this kind of

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Masonic way. Do you recall the Masonic architect behind a

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lot of the stuff. Do you remember what his name was?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Lafayette I think was one of them.

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Speaker 2: Well General Lafayette. Well, I didn't know he was an architect,

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but he might have been.

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Speaker 1: I know he was amazing to see, it's in the book.

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I can't remember his name. It's in the book report though.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, if you guys want to go watch Jamie's

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full book report on the Nations Architecture and Capital Layout,

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you can go watch is on your channel as it

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for members or is a.

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Speaker 1: Public It's free on rock fin and then on YouTube

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it's for members.

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Speaker 2: All right. So the book goes on to discuss I'm scuming.

475
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The movie goes on to discuss the the National Archives,

476
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and I thought, I thought, right, away. This is kind

477
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of a They do make a reference to the Library

478
00:33:30,039 --> 00:33:31,839
of Congress in the first one, and they go to

479
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,559
in the second one, and I thought, well, this has

480
00:33:35,559 --> 00:33:38,640
got to refer in some way also to James Billington,

481
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,680
because his research is so you know, pre eminent, so

482
00:33:41,759 --> 00:33:44,799
famous in terms of firing the minds of men. And

483
00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:46,880
what's amazing about firing the minds of men is when

484
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,119
you read it as we've covered it, you know, many

485
00:33:49,119 --> 00:33:51,400
many times in many podcasts, especially with Tristan. I think

486
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,200
Tristan to the whole podcast just on Firing the Minds

487
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:59,799
of Men, it admits that the revolutionary faith is a faith, right, so,

488
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:05,920
and the Enlightenment faith is the faith of the atheistic, communistic,

489
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:11,360
socialistic revolution that occurred. And it's not empathetical really to

490
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,320
the Jacobins. So you have the Jacobins and the Groundin's

491
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,280
ever since the Enlightenment, you have these two strands of

492
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,079
Enlightenment philosophy, and Billington, who is a fan of it,

493
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:24,320
basically says, yeah, we're not as radical as the communists,

494
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,360
but it's the same revolutionary power and faith and ethos

495
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,440
that is behind America and the French Revolution. They're both

496
00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:34,239
the same revolution. So do you want a right wing

497
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,760
revolution or a left wing revolution, which in reality means

498
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,000
that they're all leftist revolutions. Is to overthrow, thrown in alter,

499
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,159
that is the revolution, and that is reiterated in the

500
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:48,719
film Believe It or Not multiple times over where Nick

501
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,920
Cage reiterates the American principles, the founding principles of you know,

502
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,679
no hierarchy, no authority, everybody's equal power comes from the

503
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:04,159
bottom up right. This is all Masonic revolutionary philosophy. And

504
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,760
they make heavy usage of the all Seeing Eye in

505
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,679
part one, which is of course the you know, chief

506
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,639
symbol of the Freemasons.

507
00:35:13,159 --> 00:35:15,119
Speaker 1: Well, I thought it was interesting they didn't go to

508
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:20,400
the actual Washington Monument at all.

509
00:35:20,519 --> 00:35:23,519
Speaker 2: Well, you mean, there is a kind of flyover where

510
00:35:23,519 --> 00:35:25,679
they show it in a couple of scenes, just gonna

511
00:35:26,119 --> 00:35:28,199
give b a roll to set the stage that they're

512
00:35:28,199 --> 00:35:32,480
in DC. But it immediately turns into kind of the

513
00:35:32,599 --> 00:35:37,039
vestiges of those nineties films where you've got your team,

514
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,079
you know, you've got kind of like Mission Impossible or

515
00:35:40,119 --> 00:35:43,880
any other film where you've got this this cobbled together

516
00:35:44,679 --> 00:35:47,760
team of misfits that you're having to you know, do

517
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,960
your big black ops with. So you've got John Voyd,

518
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:57,960
You've got Riley who's the nineties holdover hacker Nerd. You've

519
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:04,480
got Diane Krueger who's playing the document archivist specialist or whatever.

520
00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:07,000
They got Nick Cage who's basically the Indiana Jones character.

521
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,960
And so this ragtag team is somehow able to combat

522
00:36:12,639 --> 00:36:18,239
the ultimate criminal syndicate, you know, elite crime organization figure.

523
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,800
Sean Bean and I think it's what we were talking

524
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,840
about this when we're watching it. Like in movies, criminals

525
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,519
aren't like just they're not just shitty like street trash.

526
00:36:29,679 --> 00:36:32,159
They're like James Bond. They always make criminals.

527
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: They have unlimited resources.

528
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 2: They have unlimited resources. They're all like the smoothest like

529
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,760
multimillionaires who have like a team of black ops dudes,

530
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,400
you know, on hand, and like no criminals are actually like,

531
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,559
there's no actual criminals that really act this way in

532
00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:52,960
the real world really well.

533
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:58,159
Speaker 1: Speaking of Washington Monument, the Obelisk, it says in that

534
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,840
book that the apex of it is made of aluminum

535
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:07,880
rather than stone, suggesting that is completed but remains technically unfinished,

536
00:37:08,039 --> 00:37:12,599
like the pyramid on the dollar bill.

537
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, the significance for a lot of the esoteric societies

538
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,559
is that the unfinished Pyramid means that the great Work

539
00:37:19,679 --> 00:37:21,840
is still yet to be complete. In other words, that

540
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:26,719
there will be some future capping of the stone when

541
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,800
humanity kind of achieves some kind of apotheosis. So it

542
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,760
can be interpreted as an allegory of transhumanism, an allegory

543
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,880
of you know, gnosticism, coming to know the mysteries. Whatever.

544
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,880
It always has this kind of a significance in these

545
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,199
these secret societies, but it's also kind of a bait

546
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,239
and trap, bait and switch trap, which they promised to

547
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,800
the initiates, right like, oh, if you join this society,

548
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,960
you're going to be you know, initiated into these secret

549
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,880
mysteries and pay your dues and you know, let us

550
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,840
touch butts with you, and then you're going to know

551
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,719
the secrets of the universe. But it's always some kind

552
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,400
of we're you know, faking gay thing.

553
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of Gnostics, the earliest surviving zodiac, it says

554
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:13,440
in Washington, has a mythrick and Gnostic images and projected

555
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:18,159
the Mother Goddess theme. So that's another thing that we

556
00:38:18,199 --> 00:38:23,599
talk about in that speech that I did at the conference,

557
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,800
is that all of these mother goddesses kind of merged

558
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:31,400
together into one super goddess, Isis or whatever they call her,

559
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:36,440
the Goddess with a thousand names, but it is Columbia

560
00:38:36,679 --> 00:38:37,800
of the District of Columbia.

561
00:38:39,079 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also, you know, we went and recently I'd

562
00:38:44,039 --> 00:38:46,239
never been to Jamestown, So Jamie and I went to

563
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,159
Jamestown and we went to Colonial Williamsburg and all that.

564
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,280
We got to see all of the original Virginia Company

565
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,840
settlements here. And what was interesting was that I didn't

566
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,920
realize they have, of course a big pillar there where

567
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:03,960
the original settlement set up, and then they have kind

568
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:08,480
of a dedication at the bottom and Virginia right because

569
00:39:08,519 --> 00:39:10,559
it's the virgin So there is a reference to the

570
00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:13,599
Virgin Mary. A lot of the original people from the

571
00:39:13,639 --> 00:39:18,480
Virginia Company were Anglican Protestant, but also probably Freemasons as well,

572
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:23,079
so there is this early, early sort of reference to

573
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,840
the goddess. And I don't think ultimately, especially for these people,

574
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:37,559
they mean the they don't actually mean like Mary. They

575
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:40,559
mean some sort of esoteric significance. Because what a lot

576
00:39:40,599 --> 00:39:43,280
of the esoteric societies and occult groups do is they

577
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,360
will say outwardly, oh, yes, we believe in you know,

578
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,639
the Mother of God, we believe in the Virgin, but

579
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,920
they secretly mean, you know, some sort of weird esoteric thing.

580
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,880
So and that's also how they dupe people too. Write

581
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,079
they say, oh, you believe in Christianity. Oh well, let

582
00:39:59,079 --> 00:40:02,039
me tell you the real gnostic interpreted interpretation of Christianity.

583
00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:04,679
When you join our group, we have the real secrets,

584
00:40:05,039 --> 00:40:07,840
the real keys of knowledge, in fact, in morals and dogma,

585
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,320
which I have over there. We've covered this in previous podcasts.

586
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,000
Pike actually says that the real Christianity is what Origin taught.

587
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:21,159
It's actually neoplatonism and universalism. So they don't shy away

588
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,320
from Christian terms in Christian theology, but they just redefine

589
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,000
it to be some gnostic thing and say, oh, that's

590
00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:31,840
the real Christianity. And they rely on people's ignorance and

591
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,440
you know, word concept fallacies, et cetera, to push a

592
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:36,360
bunch of nonsense.

593
00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, so you've got the grain goddess series who

594
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,400
is Virgo? And then in their Christian mysticism, it becomes

595
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,440
the Virgin Mary and the grain becomes the bread of life.

596
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,679
Like you said, everything has this like Christian interpretation put

597
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,079
on top of the pagan.

598
00:40:56,639 --> 00:40:59,519
Speaker 2: Yeah. And there's another element in this one, which I'm

599
00:40:59,519 --> 00:41:03,719
not sure what to make of it, because they keep

600
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:09,599
referencing time and clocks over and over and over. What

601
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,119
exactly those significance I mean, I know what the significance

602
00:41:12,159 --> 00:41:14,519
is for the narrative, but what this means in some

603
00:41:14,559 --> 00:41:18,760
sort of esoteric sense, I'm not exactly sure. Obviously, you know,

604
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,840
time is one of the things that keeps us sort

605
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,360
of imprisoned in the esoteric views. So you're racing against

606
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,760
the clock, not just against your death, but against you know,

607
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,639
whatever time frame the you know the I think Harvey

608
00:41:31,679 --> 00:41:34,639
Kottel gives you know, Nick Cage a certain amount of

609
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:37,960
time to you know, clear his name and to figure

610
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,280
out where Sean Bean is, et cetera. The clock of

611
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,079
the Trinity Church becomes one of the clues that Nick

612
00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:48,159
Age has to see in this sort of Benjamin Franklin

613
00:41:48,199 --> 00:41:52,599
designed you know, ocular bifocals, et cetera. It turns into

614
00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:56,000
this boomer q QAnon q tard code type of thing,

615
00:41:56,039 --> 00:41:58,639
which is actually entertaining. But I was watching this and

616
00:41:58,679 --> 00:42:00,920
I was like, as Nick Cage is wearing these glasses

617
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,599
and figuring out this is what the boomers were thinking

618
00:42:02,599 --> 00:42:04,280
when the q Andon crap was having, Like they think

619
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,400
they're Nick Cage in national treasure, like solving all of

620
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,400
these trump cut q tart codes.

621
00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of times, zodiacs are a clock also with

622
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,440
the procession of the equinoxes and everything.

623
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and as we move on, we talked about hell

624
00:42:25,519 --> 00:42:30,079
f Our Club, We talked about the Gates family, their lineage.

625
00:42:31,039 --> 00:42:35,239
There's a there's this interesting debate that Nick Cage has

626
00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:37,480
when he when he gets back and sees his dad

627
00:42:37,519 --> 00:42:40,519
because he needs the Silence Do Good letters right, which

628
00:42:40,519 --> 00:42:44,039
is another name for Benjamin Franklin's it's his pen name

629
00:42:44,559 --> 00:42:48,519
for writing these letters. And supposedly there's a code embedded

630
00:42:48,559 --> 00:42:51,760
in the Silence Do Good letters, which John Voyd has.

631
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,679
But when Nick Cage gets there, he's talking to John

632
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,440
Voight and John voy is a total normy, like he's

633
00:42:57,519 --> 00:43:00,920
exited the conspiracy world. He's taken the blue pill. There's

634
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,639
no more conspiracies, it's only clues. It's only uh, you know,

635
00:43:04,679 --> 00:43:08,199
misdirection and disinformation. None of it's real. And they have

636
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:12,880
this funny debate between the conspiracy theorists and the normy Dad,

637
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,119
which I thought was pretty funny because it's like Nick

638
00:43:15,159 --> 00:43:17,480
Cage's kind of gen xy. He's not really boomer, he's

639
00:43:17,559 --> 00:43:19,559
kind of gen x, but he's debating with a boomer,

640
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:23,960
and it's actually a pretty accurate debate between what you

641
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,559
would have if you were a conspiracy theorist debating like

642
00:43:26,599 --> 00:43:27,599
a boomer normy.

643
00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:28,159
Speaker 4: Uh.

644
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 2: I thought that was part was pretty entertaining. But eventually

645
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,039
of course gets you know, John Boy back into the

646
00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:39,800
conspiracy world and they decode the the message on the

647
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,880
Declaration of Independence when they steal it. But the other

648
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,199
thing that comes up, I want to say this too,

649
00:43:44,199 --> 00:43:46,559
this was this was I think this is intentional, and

650
00:43:46,599 --> 00:43:48,119
I'm really annoyed by a lot of the you know,

651
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:53,440
Gematria nonsense and the people who obsess over weird you know,

652
00:43:53,639 --> 00:43:56,079
numbers that are mentioned in movies and then they interpret

653
00:43:56,079 --> 00:43:58,679
and some gets away all this nonsense in they read

654
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,840
into it. But I think in this case, this is

655
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,519
a legitimate situation where the clock tower says two twenty

656
00:44:04,519 --> 00:44:07,159
two when they're trying to decode the Trinity Church tower,

657
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,360
and Riley specifically says he turns to the camry says three

658
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,199
two two. He thinks it's three twenty two, and he's

659
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:15,760
the one that has to talk about the fact that

660
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,960
there wasn't daylight savings time, so it actually be two

661
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,519
twenty two. But Riley says it's actually three twenty two

662
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,719
technically speaking. And of course three two two is the

663
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,480
famous uh skull and Bones lodge. That's the lodge of

664
00:44:27,519 --> 00:44:33,119
scull and Bones I think originally in Germany.

665
00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 1: Oh, that's just what I was gonna say, three two

666
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:42,440
two with the time, Okay, okay, So if.

667
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 2: You look up, if you look up skull and Bones

668
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,159
that you will find that this is actually true. And

669
00:44:47,199 --> 00:44:49,320
this is in Anthony Sutton's History of Skull and Bones two,

670
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,159
by the ways, So this is not a conspiracy gibberish.

671
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:57,000
This is actual legit history. The first lodge of the

672
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,159
skull and Bones of the bonesmen was in German in

673
00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:04,159
what eighteen eighty two, and it's called Lodge three two two.

674
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,320
So this was this was intentionally put there in the script,

675
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,119
on purpose.

676
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:08,159
Speaker 5: I think.

677
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 2: Go ahead.

678
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 1: So in this book he actually goes into do the ancients,

679
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,400
do the Masons, do the founding fathers? He says, can

680
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,719
it be true that Masons regard the ancient gods and

681
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,880
goddesses as living beings with power to be still favors

682
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:30,360
on certain places, and the idea that countries and cities

683
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,199
are ruled by spiritual beings is very ancient. So that

684
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,079
actually goes back to the beginning of creation where God

685
00:45:36,119 --> 00:45:40,679
sets you know, angels over principalities and powers and places,

686
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,000
and some of them fell and some of them didn't.

687
00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:50,280
So that would make certain places more evil than others.

688
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 2: What do you think, Yeah, I mean, I think in

689
00:45:53,519 --> 00:45:58,360
Christian theology, we definitely think that locations, places and things

690
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,400
can you know, be sanctified in take on a you know,

691
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,800
a new reality. Right, they can be transfigured, so to speak.

692
00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:09,719
Sole principle behind relics. Right, relics are you know, energized,

693
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:15,480
energized by the uncreded energies. So so yeah, And the

694
00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:17,480
other thing what I mentioned too is, as you guys know,

695
00:46:17,559 --> 00:46:20,960
the history of Skull and Bones is where the oss

696
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,159
and Cia, particularly for many decades, recruited out of so

697
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,079
you would be brought into the Skull and Bones Secret Society.

698
00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:30,960
There's others as well. There's a scroll and key, et cetera,

699
00:46:31,519 --> 00:46:34,639
and these kind of become you know, breeding grounds for

700
00:46:35,039 --> 00:46:38,559
potential future intelligence recruits. So a lot of people out

701
00:46:38,599 --> 00:46:40,400
of Wall Street, a lot of people out of you know,

702
00:46:41,519 --> 00:46:48,719
Eastern Seaboard establishment back in the late forties, fifties, sixties, seventies, eighties,

703
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,320
et cetera, were recruited into Skull and Bones, and this

704
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,360
is where they would kind of be, you know, put

705
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:59,280
into intelligence stuff. As everybody remembers, both John Kerry and

706
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,119
Bush Scene you were members of Skull and Bones, and

707
00:47:03,159 --> 00:47:06,320
they were asked about that by what's his face, the

708
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:11,760
Matt Matt guy from Meet the Press, and uh, Matt.

709
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,199
That guy didn't live much longer after that. If you

710
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,280
guys remember that this is forgotten conspiracy lore, but this

711
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:24,280
is legit, like actual conspiracy stuff. Let's see if we

712
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:32,079
can find it. It might be scrubbed. But that chunky

713
00:47:32,159 --> 00:47:37,039
reporter forget his name, but he was a famous Meet

714
00:47:37,039 --> 00:47:40,800
the Press reporter guy back in the nineties and two thousands,

715
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,559
and he asked I think John Kerry about that when

716
00:47:44,599 --> 00:47:46,760
they were both running you here it is Meet the Press.

717
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,679
You were both listen to this spelling bones the secret Society,

718
00:47:52,679 --> 00:47:54,599
the sub secret We can't talk about what does that

719
00:47:54,639 --> 00:47:58,199
mean for America. The conspiracy theorists are going to go.

720
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:04,840
I don't know even the number three two two. First

721
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,159
of all, he's not the nominee.

722
00:48:06,679 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: And uh but uh look I look for.

723
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 2: Now. I'm not gonna lose. Oh, there we go. There's

724
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:22,760
some old school also her head Mushard gashes and then uh,

725
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,599
Tim Russer, right, And then Tim Russer asked, Uh, John,

726
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,920
carry the same thing. I think, let's see, let's see

727
00:48:29,039 --> 00:48:31,159
open spelling bone. Let's see if we can get him

728
00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:37,360
asking carry the same question. I'm not gonna lose if

729
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,880
you both remembers of spelling bones. A secret society at Yale?

730
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,599
Speaker 4: What does that tell us? Uh?

731
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,599
Speaker 2: Not much because it's a secret. Is there a secret handshake?

732
00:48:46,679 --> 00:48:47,880
Is there a secret code?

733
00:48:48,079 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 3: I wish there were something secred. I could manifest three

734
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,400
twenty two secret.

735
00:48:52,159 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 2: Number manifest And then he mentioned three two two. There

736
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,280
are all kinds of secret stem but one thing that's

737
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:01,639
not a secret, I disagree, classic political deflection. Well, you know,

738
00:49:01,679 --> 00:49:03,400
there's a lot of secrets, but one thing that's not

739
00:49:03,519 --> 00:49:06,559
a secret is this president's handling of the economy. Right

740
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,639
just immediately, U, Well, listen, one thing that's not a

741
00:49:09,679 --> 00:49:13,400
secret is this president's failed policy in the Middle East. Right,

742
00:49:13,559 --> 00:49:18,920
you just deflect the question. That's a classic political non answer.

743
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,199
But you'll notice this is very real. This is classic

744
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,480
conspiracy stuff. I remember when this came out, and I

745
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,880
remember Alex playing it. This is two thousand and six,

746
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,920
and again, Tim Russer did not live much longer after

747
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:38,599
all this. He met an early, somewhat early demise. I'm

748
00:49:38,599 --> 00:49:41,800
not saying that it was because he asked this question. However,

749
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,920
to my knowledge, nobody in mainstream media had really asked

750
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,960
that kind of a question to you know, people in

751
00:49:50,039 --> 00:49:54,280
the political power structure at that level to date. I

752
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,039
mean maybe they had. There's a few news reports on

753
00:49:57,039 --> 00:50:00,480
on Bohemian Grove, but you know, there was wasn't really

754
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,719
a lot of discussion of Skull and Bones in mainstream

755
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,440
media at all until it came out. There. There was

756
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,480
that one TV movie, Brotherhood of the Bell, which is

757
00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:13,079
also a kind of a conspiracy classic if you enjoy

758
00:50:13,159 --> 00:50:20,079
old conspiracy movies. It might actually be on YouTube if

759
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:23,320
you guys are interested in this. And I did a

760
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,159
podcast with Jones picking Bones yes here it is right

761
00:50:27,159 --> 00:50:31,320
here many years ago, maybe twenty twenty, and we covered

762
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,400
Brotherhood of the Bell. I think it should be somewhere

763
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,880
on the channel still, but you can watch the whole

764
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,079
movie here, and it's really based on Skull and Bones.

765
00:50:41,119 --> 00:50:44,559
There's also the one with who's that guy from the

766
00:50:44,559 --> 00:50:52,639
two thousands? The order has no the Skull and Bones

767
00:50:52,719 --> 00:51:00,519
movie with Josh Jackson in it. That one's also explicitly

768
00:51:00,559 --> 00:51:08,760
skull and Bones. We should watch that too, that'd be

769
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,880
a fun conspiracy rewind well.

770
00:51:11,679 --> 00:51:17,159
Speaker 1: Speaking of skullduggery, Skull and Bones, speaking of skulldugery. This

771
00:51:17,199 --> 00:51:22,239
book also talks a little bit about like occultism in

772
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,920
the not so distant past. So he's talking about in

773
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,719
the nineteen fifties, he said, CIA Miles Copeland ran what

774
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,280
he called the Cosmic Operations Bureau for the CIA, better

775
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:39,199
known as OHP or Occultism in High Places, which was

776
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,679
a program to infiltrate astrologers, gurus, and scientologists into inner

777
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,559
circles of world leaders who were known to be susceptible

778
00:51:47,599 --> 00:51:48,880
to such things.

779
00:51:51,039 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm the one that was telling you that you

780
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,800
should look into that. The Miles Copeland book is rare.

781
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,960
It's hard to find, but I have, of course, we

782
00:52:00,119 --> 00:52:03,679
lectured through Miles Copeland's CIA memoirs Game of Nations, and

783
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,920
I have his other book, but one where he talks

784
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,320
about occultism and high places as a CIA program is

785
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,559
really rare. It's hard to find. It's the Skulls. This

786
00:52:12,679 --> 00:52:18,480
is also a fun you know, two thousand era, you know,

787
00:52:18,599 --> 00:52:22,519
conspiracy classic with Josh Jackson being recruited into Skull and

788
00:52:22,519 --> 00:52:27,559
Bones and it's a coach if you remember, is the villain.

789
00:52:27,599 --> 00:52:31,920
He's the one that's running the Running the Bones operation.

790
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,800
I know, right, So this is where you get branded,

791
00:52:35,119 --> 00:52:36,920
which is a real thing. You do get branded in

792
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,679
a lot of secret society. Crowley, remember Crowley would brand

793
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:44,920
his his initiates. But again this is based on actual

794
00:52:45,039 --> 00:52:49,119
Skull and Bones initiation. The Good Shepherd with Matt Damon

795
00:52:49,199 --> 00:52:53,840
of course, has the same scene sequences where you're initiated

796
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,239
into Skull and Bones at Yale, Harvard, et cetera. So

797
00:52:57,679 --> 00:52:58,840
where are we at though, Let's get.

798
00:52:58,679 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: Back to Nick Cage found the bifocals remember that?

799
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the ocular, the study of optics, you know,

800
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:14,400
this was key to the advancement of technology, the camera,

801
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,119
et cetera. And you go all the way back to

802
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:23,239
even esotericist like Descartes Descartes was studied uh optics and refraction,

803
00:53:23,559 --> 00:53:26,280
and you know, obviously the same with the with Ben

804
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,920
Franklin studying that. But we wouldn't be where we are

805
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:34,800
with cameras right, and technology in terms of like computers

806
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:40,719
without the setting the stage with the optics studies. And

807
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,079
so I think that's one reason why the all sing

808
00:53:43,159 --> 00:53:45,400
I played such a key role in this and all

809
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,800
the you know, Egyptian symbology. It's everywhere in this film,

810
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,760
the Declaration of Independence, of course, being this sort of

811
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,840
relic if you're an Americanist, it's it's like the ultimate

812
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,400
you know, documents symbolizing what you see there, the all

813
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:05,519
sing eyes, freedom from all tyranny six simper tyrannus, right,

814
00:54:06,639 --> 00:54:09,639
the torch of liberty. We covered that. The treasurer we

815
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,360
find out is actually not just gold, but it's also

816
00:54:14,159 --> 00:54:19,119
Diane Krueger says, the Alexandrian scrolls that were destroyed in

817
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:24,639
the Fires of Alexandria, which ancient you know, deception and

818
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,519
lying mythology. Trust to pend that on the Christians. Oh,

819
00:54:27,559 --> 00:54:30,599
the Christians hated the nosis, so they burned down the

820
00:54:30,639 --> 00:54:34,320
Alexandrian Library, which is all Bologne. That's not true, they

821
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,719
try to blame Saint Cyril for you know, killing Hypatia

822
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,880
as well, all that sort of Masonic mythology. But it's

823
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,880
the old saying eye itself in the film that is

824
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,119
what you have to reach through. Remember that where Nick

825
00:54:46,199 --> 00:54:49,519
kh has to poke through there to get through to

826
00:54:49,679 --> 00:54:53,199
the treasure room when he lights the torch of Liberty.

827
00:54:54,199 --> 00:54:58,360
And this is in the catacombs underneath Trinity Church. So

828
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,320
the idea here is that you have Christianity as the

829
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:07,119
sort of upper you know, frontispiece, the face, the religion

830
00:55:07,119 --> 00:55:12,079
that faces reality, but secretly in the catacombs underneath Christianity,

831
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:18,559
right is the real secrets of Esoterism. The cryptocracy understands

832
00:55:18,599 --> 00:55:21,079
and knows reality. And that's why when they get down

833
00:55:21,079 --> 00:55:24,320
into the treasure chambers, there's a sequence of rooms that

834
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:28,199
signify ancient civilizations. So you have like ancient Babylon in Egypt,

835
00:55:28,599 --> 00:55:32,000
and then you cross into a room that's Christian with

836
00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:35,360
templar and you know, cross imagery, and then you get

837
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,119
to the big treasure room, which is the real secret,

838
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,280
which Nick Cage offers to Harvey Kaitel as a kind

839
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,159
of bargaining chip to not go to jail.

840
00:55:45,079 --> 00:55:47,159
Speaker 1: Well, This is kind of reflected too in something that

841
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,239
he talked about in the book, which is the two

842
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:55,639
separate cornerstone ceremonies. So if you go to Alexandria across

843
00:55:55,679 --> 00:55:58,719
the river from DC and go to the George Washington

844
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:08,199
Masonic Memorial, it's a giant obelisk shaped building dedicated to

845
00:56:08,559 --> 00:56:13,199
George Washington his Masonic career and the I mean, there's

846
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,960
got to be a twenty foot painting on the wall

847
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,599
of fresco of George Washington laying the Masonic cornerstone. But

848
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,599
there are two different cornerstones, like you just said, there's

849
00:56:23,639 --> 00:56:26,239
the hidden one and the visible ones. So they would

850
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:30,079
do separate rituals for each one because that was the

851
00:56:30,119 --> 00:56:35,039
one underground in the one above ground. Does that make sense?

852
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the katabasis is obviously you know, that

853
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,079
comes up all the time in literature. We've covered that

854
00:56:42,119 --> 00:56:47,599
many times. But it's fascinating to see the use of

855
00:56:47,639 --> 00:56:51,559
this in this movie, which I didn't recall. I didn't

856
00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:54,639
expect that. I think it's making reference to, you know,

857
00:56:56,159 --> 00:56:59,960
the the underground nature of secret societies, that they can

858
00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:03,519
keep the secrets in the catacombs and they know what's

859
00:57:03,559 --> 00:57:07,760
really going on. And then you have this corny ending

860
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,960
where when he's talking to Harvey Cattel all right, when

861
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,639
they're trying to figure out how to divvy up the treasure,

862
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,719
and Nick Cage tells him that, you know, it's for

863
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,079
the people. It's too much money for one person. Nobody

864
00:57:21,119 --> 00:57:23,000
should have that much wealth. So you almost have this

865
00:57:23,119 --> 00:57:27,840
quasi socialistic message. And actually socialism and communism come out

866
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,239
of the Freemasonic revolutionary secret societies.

867
00:57:32,039 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: That picture you just had up, that's another example of

868
00:57:35,039 --> 00:57:39,239
the esoteric idea of as above so below the one

869
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:44,280
with the Washington monument reflecting on the reflexing pool, so

870
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:45,559
that is what that is.

871
00:57:45,719 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 2: Also. Yeah, so you have this anti capitalist, anti monarchist

872
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,840
sort of vibe towards the end of the film, which

873
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,639
I thought was pretty corny but overall still a lot

874
00:57:57,679 --> 00:58:00,039
of fun. And then what does the end with? It

875
00:58:00,159 --> 00:58:02,840
ends with a bang. It ends with Nick Cage finally

876
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:08,239
getting laid because are not Maelan and Ackerman. Diane Krueger says, oh,

877
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,800
I left you a map to the bedroom. Haha. So

878
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,719
it ends with like it progresses to like sex magic

879
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:16,719
or something at the end.

880
00:58:17,159 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: What did you think of her being an immigrant in

881
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,800
the movie, Oh I forgot about this.

882
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,559
Speaker 2: This is another interesting little tidbit where it was like, uh,

883
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,159
when Nick Cage first gets there with Riley and they're

884
00:58:31,159 --> 00:58:34,159
trying to convince Diane Krueger that they have this, you know,

885
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:38,400
secret information that could lead to you know, somebody trying

886
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,519
to steal the Declaration of Independence, namely Sean Bean. Right,

887
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,679
she does obviously doesn't believe him. She thinks it's preposterous.

888
00:58:45,159 --> 00:58:47,760
And he's like, oh, I see, so you're not American

889
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,239
and she goes, I am American. She's like, I was

890
00:58:51,239 --> 00:58:54,199
born in Germany, but I'm an American. Right, So there's

891
00:58:54,239 --> 00:58:57,760
this sort of immigration message, right, like anybody is an American?

892
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,840
How dare you say that it's only the heritage people.

893
00:59:00,239 --> 00:59:02,840
But the funny thing too, I was like, Okay, so

894
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,559
she's like this blue eyed, blonde bombshell, and I'm like, yeah,

895
00:59:05,559 --> 00:59:08,320
I'm pretty sure that that's not what the migrants look

896
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,320
like that are coming here. There's there's not a lot

897
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:11,880
of giant Kruger's coming here.

898
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:16,079
Speaker 1: All immigrants are beautiful blondes that go to work at

899
00:59:16,119 --> 00:59:17,519
the Capitol building.

900
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:21,159
Speaker 2: Or a document archives specialists. Right, They're not Somali ad

901
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:25,719
Iq creatures. They're actually Dyan Krueger's everywhere.

902
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: That's why do you want to deport them?

903
00:59:34,119 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 2: Okay, so that was a Natural Treasure one A lot

904
00:59:37,519 --> 00:59:41,719
of fun. I had a blast, you know, re re

905
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,519
experiencing this coming back, you know, with so much more

906
00:59:45,639 --> 00:59:49,400
kind of esoteric information and knowledge that I haven't seen

907
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,800
in a long time. I had a blast. Did you

908
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:53,519
enjoy it as much?

909
00:59:53,519 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: As? This is one of those movies that's extremely rewatchable,

910
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,719
kind of like The Mummy, that's it's always going to

911
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,440
be fun every time, even though you've seen it one

912
01:00:03,519 --> 01:00:04,320
hundred times.

913
01:00:07,159 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 2: Let's read a few of the super chaps before we

914
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:14,480
get to the next section, National Treasure two. Now, somebody

915
01:00:14,519 --> 01:00:16,559
is super chad to be saying that I got refuted

916
01:00:16,559 --> 01:00:20,599
and exposed. Oh I love a good exposed video, So

917
01:00:20,679 --> 01:00:23,440
let's see how I got exposed. This says that apparently

918
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,679
I'm I don't actually believe in God because there was

919
01:00:26,719 --> 01:00:30,639
a clip of me saying that God doesn't exist. Uh oh,

920
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,519
and of course, yeah, here we go. You ready, here's

921
01:00:33,519 --> 01:00:36,719
me saying God doesn't exist. Let's go so for example,

922
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:41,719
like with human beings, right, if there's three people, we

923
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,840
would say that there's three human beings.

924
01:00:44,159 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, but the mode of existence of God is not

925
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,840
the same as the mode of existence of creatures. So

926
01:00:50,159 --> 01:00:54,119
human beings are discreete distinct, separate people. The Father of

927
01:00:54,119 --> 01:00:57,000
the Son and Holy Spirit are not separate. Hence we

928
01:00:57,039 --> 01:00:59,559
believe in paraphoresis that they endwell one another.

929
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there we go. That was me saying God

930
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,480
doesn't exist. According to David, you got exposed. You said

931
01:01:06,519 --> 01:01:13,239
God doesn't exist. As these people are just ridiculous every day.

932
01:01:13,239 --> 01:01:15,400
I'm struggling twenty dollars day, and we're gonna paper called

933
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:20,880
conditional ultimacy, open disjunction. Either intelligibility tracks ultimate reality, in

934
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:24,760
which case it's non reflexive and there's a relational multibstat

935
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:28,000
at first principle, or the whole intelligible domain doesn't track

936
01:01:28,559 --> 01:01:32,000
to ultimate reality. Interesting line of argumentation. I think that

937
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,559
that would point to the triad for sure, and that

938
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would point to ultimate reality being personal and not impersonal.

939
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,280
Aaron Rennick ten dollars. Is there a way that I

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01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,440
can call you in a private chat about Orthodoxy? I'm

941
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,320
willing to pay you. No, I don't do the privateering anymore,

942
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,119
but feel free to ask questions next time there is

943
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an open ex Twitter space call in Haiti's undead ten dollars.

944
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,039
Don't oh we did that last time? Excuse me? Do

945
01:01:56,079 --> 01:01:58,119
you want to read Supertaar? Right here?

946
01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:06,199
Speaker 1: Brandy Bubba Brandy in christ Trump recently signaled that the

947
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:10,199
National Treasure is potentially hidden at the Learning Center in Minneapolis.

948
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Speaker 2: So now we know what National Treasure three is about.

949
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:20,360
Trump's already dropped the Q hints right. Trump is like

950
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,440
giving us a new Q drop because Nick Cage is

951
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:27,199
going to have to go in and steal the speaking

952
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,559
speaking spells in the Retard Center in DC. Is that

953
01:02:31,599 --> 01:02:34,119
what you're saying here? I mean, what is the learning

954
01:02:34,159 --> 01:02:36,400
center in Minneapolis? Is that where all the Muslims are?

955
01:02:37,119 --> 01:02:37,239
Speaker 4: Uh?

956
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,679
Speaker 2: Is it like a do you know what a speaking

957
01:02:40,719 --> 01:02:41,199
spell is?

958
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:41,559
Speaker 4: Yeah?

959
01:02:41,599 --> 01:02:43,719
Speaker 1: That's where they were all the daycares were.

960
01:02:43,599 --> 01:02:48,119
Speaker 2: Right, So the National Treasure is actually at the Somali Daycares.

961
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Got it? You want to read the next one.

962
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Speaker 1: AI World Champion Royal Order or the sixth seventh Degree

963
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,000
six seven? Is that saying?

964
01:03:01,199 --> 01:03:03,519
Speaker 2: Yep, he's making a six to seven joke. He got us,

965
01:03:03,599 --> 01:03:04,000
got me.

966
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: Next?

967
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 4: That's it?

968
01:03:09,679 --> 01:03:15,119
Speaker 1: Octavian thirty three. There's thirty three watch The Good Shepherd

969
01:03:15,199 --> 01:03:16,639
with Matt Damon.

970
01:03:18,039 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen it many times, we've covered it in

971
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:26,760
the past. It deals with the basically an accurate presentation

972
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:30,639
of how the US intelligence apparatus was set up. So

973
01:03:30,679 --> 01:03:35,159
you have the establishment of Skull and Bones at at

974
01:03:35,239 --> 01:03:38,199
Yale and it's British intelligence that came and did that,

975
01:03:38,239 --> 01:03:41,400
and the film accurately presents that. It also accurately presents

976
01:03:42,039 --> 01:03:45,559
the initiation rights and rituals with you know, getting peed on.

977
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,880
So there we go. Fun stuff, right.

978
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: Well, I was reading Cults of the Shadow, which we're

979
01:03:53,039 --> 01:03:56,360
going to cover with Isaac Wisehap at the end of

980
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,039
this month, and there's a lot of pee talk in

981
01:03:59,079 --> 01:03:59,840
there also.

982
01:04:00,639 --> 01:04:02,199
Speaker 2: Well, let me tell us what it's called to the

983
01:04:02,199 --> 01:04:02,800
Shadow about.

984
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:09,199
Speaker 1: It is another one in the Kenneth Grant series. So

985
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,360
Kenneth Grant took over for Alsha Croley in the OTO

986
01:04:12,519 --> 01:04:15,840
and made it the Typhoni and Oto and it is

987
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:20,679
about sex, magic and bodily fluids and pea drinking is

988
01:04:20,719 --> 01:04:23,320
one of the things. So if you want to do magic,

989
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:24,639
get ready to drink pea.

990
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 3: Well, I'm assuming that comes out of India, comes out

991
01:04:30,039 --> 01:04:30,599
of the India.

992
01:04:31,079 --> 01:04:32,159
Speaker 2: Are being racious.

993
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 1: Heck yeah, And he talks so much about yoga Sanskrit.

994
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,079
All of the words in there are Sanskrit, like I

995
01:04:40,159 --> 01:04:44,000
pretty much know Indian now reading that glossary.

996
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to National Treasure too. So the sequel,

997
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,559
which is also entertaining a lot of fun. Some weird

998
01:04:55,639 --> 01:04:58,440
twists and turns in this one that you don't really expect.

999
01:04:59,039 --> 01:05:03,199
I didn't remember what happens exactly with Ed Harris as

1000
01:05:03,239 --> 01:05:06,079
the villain that he ends up not exactly being a villain,

1001
01:05:07,079 --> 01:05:11,639
And the symbology and significance of the Confederacy in the

1002
01:05:11,679 --> 01:05:14,480
South in this film is bizarre. It's unexpected. By the way,

1003
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:15,840
if you want to support the stream, you guys can

1004
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:19,719
do so with stream labs. Send your superchats through stream labs. Also,

1005
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:21,960
you can do a super jest natively through YouTube if you

1006
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:26,320
feel so inclined. What what are they saying?

1007
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 6: Notishsh valuable drinking liquids.

1008
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 2: Do not pish here, that's the booger rustle. So now

1009
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,719
we have reference to the Nights of the Golden Circle,

1010
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:49,440
which was a real Masonic clan related group that was

1011
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:53,199
interested in taking out Abraham Lincoln. And they thought if

1012
01:05:53,239 --> 01:05:56,800
they could take out Abraham Lincoln, or that they could continue,

1013
01:05:57,079 --> 01:06:00,440
you know, the mission of the Confederacy, et cetera. They

1014
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:05,280
would be able to establish a Confederate government and be

1015
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:09,039
able to secede from the Union. And of course John

1016
01:06:09,079 --> 01:06:12,519
Wilkes Booth was tied into this with the attempt on

1017
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:17,760
Lincoln's life. But made me think about, well, that's interesting.

1018
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:21,559
There's a connection between acting and intelligence all the way

1019
01:06:21,599 --> 01:06:23,360
back to I mean, I know it goes back to

1020
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:27,400
the ancient world, but acting an intelligence in the case

1021
01:06:27,519 --> 01:06:33,679
of John Wilkes Booth is a pre eminent example. You

1022
01:06:33,719 --> 01:06:37,559
have an actor assassin who tries to take out honest

1023
01:06:37,639 --> 01:06:40,639
abe and you want to read the super each other.

1024
01:06:42,559 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 1: Someone remembered it was Lafont was the architect, and he.

1025
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,559
Speaker 2: Was a free Mason. He was a Mason French.

1026
01:06:52,920 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because the the Revolution was also in French

1027
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,639
and they also had a version of Columbia the Goddess

1028
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:06,400
as their mascot too.

1029
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well that's what I was talking about when I

1030
01:07:09,519 --> 01:07:12,440
referenced the Jacobins and the Grondans. It's the French Revolution

1031
01:07:13,159 --> 01:07:17,599
which has the Jacobins, and our founding fathers also paid

1032
01:07:18,119 --> 01:07:23,400
a lot of deference to the Jacobins and the Communists. Okay,

1033
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:28,639
so the next reference here is again to go ahead.

1034
01:07:28,519 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 1: Oh, when they found the treasure in part one, at

1035
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,440
the very end, so he lights the fire and it

1036
01:07:34,519 --> 01:07:36,239
lights up the whole room. I don't know if you

1037
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:40,719
noticed this, but it's kind of the story, the Masonic

1038
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,719
story of history. As they go into the treasure. So

1039
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,280
at the top of the stairs there's like two king

1040
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:50,679
tuts flanking the doors, and like all kinds of Egyptian treasures,

1041
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:52,920
and then they go down a little bit and then

1042
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,719
it goes into like Greek and then more modern. So

1043
01:07:55,760 --> 01:08:00,480
it's following some kind of chronological timeline mentioned that.

1044
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 2: Already you weren't less it always flies like I explained stuff,

1045
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,719
and she's thinking about what she's going to say, and

1046
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:09,960
so she doesn't hear that. Yeah, I already mentioned that

1047
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,960
it was rooms concentric rooms going into the treasure.

1048
01:08:13,039 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 1: But did you say it was like history, like chronicle.

1049
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it goes from the ancient civilizations up to the

1050
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,800
templars and in the Middle Ages, et cetera, and then

1051
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:27,680
it progresses to the treasure. But in this one we

1052
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:29,800
have this reference to the Civil War. It's not the

1053
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:33,600
Revolutionary War, and Benjamin Gates wants to clear his family's

1054
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:39,920
name and Riley, we find out, has written a conspiracy

1055
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:44,039
book which was a popular hit called The Templar Treasure.

1056
01:08:44,159 --> 01:08:47,560
Now this is fascinating because right around this time was

1057
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:51,640
when all of these Templar Dan Brown books were really popular.

1058
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,319
So all this Templar crat was everywhere. I remember buying

1059
01:08:54,319 --> 01:08:58,159
Templar books back in the in the two thousands, and

1060
01:08:58,199 --> 01:09:02,079
a lot of it's just nonsense, right, It's esoteric gibberish,

1061
01:09:02,199 --> 01:09:06,039
a bunch of nonsense. But the film was kind of

1062
01:09:06,239 --> 01:09:09,479
ahead of the curve when it comes to the popularity

1063
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,680
of all that, because it kind of peaked around twenty

1064
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:15,560
eleven or twelve and then it turned into twenty twelve nonsense. Right,

1065
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:20,239
So the popular conspiracy candy that was out there prior to,

1066
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:24,119
you know, the twenty twelve stuff was all the Templar stuff,

1067
01:09:24,119 --> 01:09:25,800
and that was largely due to Dan Brown. So I

1068
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,920
think probably this film was capitalizing a little bit on

1069
01:09:29,199 --> 01:09:32,560
the Dan Brown ferver again, all of which was a

1070
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,000
bunch of gibberish nonsense.

1071
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 1: Well, this movie is interesting because it starts out with

1072
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:41,880
spycraft again, where he's doing the cipher of where the

1073
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:45,880
treasure is, and this is all linked to the assassination

1074
01:09:46,039 --> 01:09:46,600
of Lincoln.

1075
01:09:48,279 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 2: It is, and then it progresses to the National Monument eventually.

1076
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,119
And what's fascinating is that some of the I mean,

1077
01:09:56,159 --> 01:09:59,840
obviously there's not like a giant secret underground as to

1078
01:10:00,359 --> 01:10:03,800
inca tomb or whatever, but some of the stuff is real,

1079
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,279
Like there are these kind of like hidden things up

1080
01:10:06,359 --> 01:10:10,079
in the Rushmore. If you've never been to Rushmore, it

1081
01:10:10,159 --> 01:10:12,560
is something to see at least once in your life.

1082
01:10:14,199 --> 01:10:16,199
It's not something that I would go back to, but

1083
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:18,680
it was interesting to see once. And there's a lot

1084
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:22,319
of this weird, sort of esoteric symbolic stuff, probably our

1085
01:10:22,399 --> 01:10:25,800
hidden doors up there. I don't know. But Rui says,

1086
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,800
for ten dollars, it's always awesome to see you guys together.

1087
01:10:29,399 --> 01:10:30,920
Thank you so much. We have a lot of fun

1088
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:36,399
doing our podcast. Of course, appreciate that. And then let's

1089
01:10:36,399 --> 01:10:47,800
see Gorilla says, or my computer is freezing here, what

1090
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:48,520
are you looking up?

1091
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:53,399
Speaker 1: I saw this weird thing about John Wilkes, Ruth's brother,

1092
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:57,279
and how they had like weird let me look it up.

1093
01:10:57,399 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 2: Okay, Ghetto Rice twenty dollars. This is for our national treasure,

1094
01:11:02,079 --> 01:11:04,119
and he sent them pay piggies. What's up? Thank you

1095
01:11:04,199 --> 01:11:06,840
appreciate that. Guys who want to sports roam you get

1096
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:11,720
do so through super jets. Freaking freaking Stoic says, for

1097
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:13,439
five dollars. In part three, Nick Cage, we'll have a

1098
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,800
daughter that's immediately a better detective than him, and his

1099
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:19,239
character will be a depressed drunk Exactly. It's time for

1100
01:11:19,279 --> 01:11:21,479
the slag queens. It is our time. By the way,

1101
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,279
speaking of slag queens, Jim Bob and I are going

1102
01:11:24,359 --> 01:11:27,119
to have an interesting podcast coming up, I think Monday

1103
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:31,000
or Nerve Tuesday in a couple of days. We're gonna

1104
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:37,079
do the a double feature. We're gonna analyze Eden with

1105
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:41,720
anadymous Jude Law and Sidney Sweeney, which I enjoyed. It

1106
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,439
was a really good allegory for civilization in the fall.

1107
01:11:45,159 --> 01:11:49,520
And we're gonna analyze Gone Girl with Ben Affleck and

1108
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:56,039
Rosamund Pike, the famous Vince Flynn novel that has some

1109
01:11:56,119 --> 01:12:02,560
fascinating psychological psyops media narcissism elements going on. So Jim

1110
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,239
bobbin are gonna have a fun time analyzing those two films.

1111
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:09,600
So all you sligh queens, get ready for that freaking

1112
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,560
store except for ten dollars. Guys, I've been waiting for this.

1113
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:15,119
Thank you for finally coming through analyzing this absolutely sly

1114
01:12:15,279 --> 01:12:17,479
Blood says, for five bucks cash, matell is that their

1115
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:22,119
third degree Mason. They caught Kirk killer in thirty three hours. Interesting,

1116
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:26,199
he says, you.

1117
01:12:26,119 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 1: Want to read that one there, Edo Tolkien. What's the

1118
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:36,680
most essential for Nick Cage impressions?

1119
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 2: The best and most essential is the clip where he

1120
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:46,640
talks about his what does he call it voodoo style

1121
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:54,439
of acting? And it's the Ghostwriter interview and he says

1122
01:12:54,520 --> 01:13:03,239
that neo shamanic. That's it, where he talks about his

1123
01:13:03,279 --> 01:13:07,239
style of acting being neo shamanic. And he says he.

1124
01:13:07,199 --> 01:13:07,600
Speaker 1: Puts he.

1125
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,039
Speaker 2: Sews things into his clothes because he thinks they're like

1126
01:13:12,119 --> 01:13:15,840
shamanic relics. This is it here, I think this is it.

1127
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:17,439
Let's see.

1128
01:13:26,319 --> 01:13:29,199
Speaker 7: Strider in the Hull because I like the monsters. I

1129
01:13:29,199 --> 01:13:31,520
couldn't understand how something's so scary to look at it

1130
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,319
could also be good. So it was right off the

1131
01:13:34,319 --> 01:13:39,159
bat it was a paradoxy well in an interesting way. Uh,

1132
01:13:40,079 --> 01:13:42,720
Ghostwriter is more real if you go for that sort

1133
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,039
of thing. And they're a little a little more interesting.

1134
01:13:46,159 --> 01:13:50,039
Now my ghostwriter didn't eat panic rock music. He's ridiculous

1135
01:13:50,079 --> 01:13:53,720
to try to just relax, but I don't recommend it.

1136
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:58,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see this character the butt, all right, Uh,

1137
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:03,720
let me see it's this is a longer interview, So

1138
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,479
let me try neo shamanic because I know he says that,

1139
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,920
and he's like, I'm trying to create a new I'm

1140
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:14,760
creating a new acting style. I call it neo shamanic.

1141
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:15,279
Here it is?

1142
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 8: Is it that I've been told that all actors really

1143
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,479
hail from the early medicine men and the and the

1144
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:29,399
shamans in the villages pre Christianity, where they would put.

1145
01:14:29,319 --> 01:14:31,399
Speaker 7: On masks and and act out.

1146
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:33,359
Speaker 2: And it sounds like he's got a little bit he's

1147
01:14:33,359 --> 01:14:35,359
recovering from a little of a cold here, so he's

1148
01:14:35,399 --> 01:14:38,560
not he's a little more nasally than usual. But about

1149
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:41,680
the thing with Nick that he he has this sort

1150
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:45,159
of thing that he does where he has this cadence

1151
01:14:45,199 --> 01:14:47,640
and he kind of has a rhythm to his words

1152
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:51,880
and some of the words are very slow like that,

1153
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:54,319
and then he has this other, this thing that you

1154
01:14:54,359 --> 01:14:55,920
know he does where he goes up like this and

1155
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,720
then it comes down okay, and that that's that's when

1156
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:00,640
he's having a normal kind of say.

1157
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,239
Speaker 7: And really would They were probably pretty crazy, but they

1158
01:15:04,279 --> 01:15:08,279
would go in and find answers to questions. Today you're

1159
01:15:08,319 --> 01:15:13,239
called psychotic if you do that, but it's all semantics.

1160
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 2: So what I would. It's all semantics, right, So if

1161
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:21,560
you're psychotic or you're a shaman, it's just semantics. There's

1162
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,800
no difference. That it was a ridiculous line, but it's funny.

1163
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 7: Dude, is I put on Afro Caribbean paint, like a

1164
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,800
white and black paint and black out my eyes so

1165
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,359
I look like this sort of Afro Caribbean voodoo icon.

1166
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 2: Whoa dude? Uh based Nick Cage doing some black face.

1167
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:40,159
Speaker 7: And then I would sow in bits of Egyptian artifacts

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01:15:40,159 --> 01:15:42,880
that were thousands of years old into my costume and

1169
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,840
gather some onyx or turmaline or something that was meant

1170
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:49,119
to have vibrations. And who knows if it works or doesn't,

1171
01:15:49,199 --> 01:15:51,479
but for me, it was an idea of like trying

1172
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:55,600
to stimulate my mind or trick my mind into believing

1173
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:59,279
I was this character from another dimension. And I would

1174
01:15:59,279 --> 01:16:02,239
walk on the and then wouldn't speak to anybody, wouldn't

1175
01:16:02,239 --> 01:16:05,720
say a word. So I projected this aura of horror,

1176
01:16:06,039 --> 01:16:08,279
which created fear of my fellow actors.

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01:16:08,319 --> 01:16:12,560
Speaker 2: Which this is a favorite interview of all time. This

1178
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,800
is so great. He's like, I'm sewing a voody relics

1179
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,600
into my clothes and I'm terrifying my fellow actors with

1180
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:24,199
this aura. So anyway, uh, here you go. Here's a

1181
01:16:24,279 --> 01:16:25,319
question for you, Jami, or here.

1182
01:16:25,239 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 1: Read that, Jamie. What is your favorite Steve Winwood song?

1183
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:34,239
Oh dire Wire double o seven? What is your favorite

1184
01:16:34,239 --> 01:16:38,359
Steve Winwood song? Bring Me High Love?

1185
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:40,039
Speaker 2: That one exactly, And that's what.

1186
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,640
Speaker 1: I put on bring me Hi Your Love.

1187
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 2: That's what I put on on your your Instagram picture

1188
01:16:48,039 --> 01:16:50,960
seven martyrs, says Yo Jay Berg. Say it with a

1189
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:56,680
wiggle lap, yo zieber Ato Tolken. What is the most

1190
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:00,800
essential for Nick Cage? Listen to this and after this

1191
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:04,600
interview and you will get your Nick Cage correct, even

1192
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,960
though he's a little bit got a little bit of

1193
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:11,439
a cold. Here, this is the classic right here, that's

1194
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:16,000
what all right, Let's get back to National Treasure two.

1195
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:22,039
So here they have to decode the clues and they

1196
01:17:22,039 --> 01:17:25,960
have to go to Paris, France, because we're linking it

1197
01:17:26,039 --> 01:17:29,239
back to the French Revolution, as we said in seventeen

1198
01:17:29,279 --> 01:17:32,479
eighty nine, which was all a Jacob and Masonic affair ultimately,

1199
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:34,960
and we learned that they have to also go to

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01:17:35,319 --> 01:17:41,760
the Queen's Buckingham Palace because there's two resolute desks. So

1201
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:45,239
wait a minute, what's the connection between the Queen's Desk

1202
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:49,119
and the French Revolution? Well, if you follow with the

1203
01:17:49,199 --> 01:17:53,119
logic of my theories on the British Empire and the

1204
01:17:53,159 --> 01:17:57,199
controlled dialectics of revolution, it makes perfect sense. Why is

1205
01:17:57,239 --> 01:18:00,560
it that the British Empire maintains its monarchy and the

1206
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:04,600
rest of the monarchies fall to Masonic revolutions? Take a

1207
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:09,399
look at this. So there's.

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01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,199
Speaker 1: So I think Ed Harris says he's actually related to

1209
01:18:32,279 --> 01:18:33,720
Albert Pike in this.

1210
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 2: Movie, right, that's absolutely right. He says he's related to

1211
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:41,079
Albert Pike and that the they're gonna have to clear

1212
01:18:41,159 --> 01:18:44,840
each other's names because Ed Harris claims that it's Nick

1213
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:49,359
Cage's family that's guilty for the attempt on the life

1214
01:18:49,399 --> 01:18:54,199
of John will of Lincoln by John Wilkes Booth. But

1215
01:18:55,039 --> 01:18:58,479
I just thought it was fascinating dialectic. So there's two deaths,

1216
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:01,800
So there's twin pillars of masonry, right, severity and mercy

1217
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:08,439
and severity yeaken and Boaz. The queen has this Masonic connection.

1218
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:10,239
And for those that don't know, the Queen of England

1219
01:19:10,279 --> 01:19:14,359
actually is the head of World Freemasonry. I mean she

1220
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,119
passed away, but she was the official head of World

1221
01:19:17,199 --> 01:19:20,239
Free Masonry. So there would be a perfect connection between

1222
01:19:21,239 --> 01:19:28,000
French revolutionary Masonry English Masonry, which has this supposed opposition

1223
01:19:28,159 --> 01:19:32,439
like there's this fake you know, Christian Masonry of the

1224
01:19:34,239 --> 01:19:39,600
what's the Blue Lodge an English Masonry versus the atheism

1225
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:43,560
of Grand orient Masonry. I think that's probably controlled dialectic

1226
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:47,640
because it all it's all revolutionary nonsense. But what did

1227
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:51,760
you make of the reference to both sides of the

1228
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:56,000
Confederacy and the they're both Masons on the Confederacy and

1229
01:19:56,039 --> 01:19:59,279
the Union side, And that's actually true. And Ed Harris

1230
01:19:59,279 --> 01:20:01,920
says that he's a send a relative of Albert Pike,

1231
01:20:02,399 --> 01:20:04,399
and then it turns out that he ends up being

1232
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:09,119
this sacrificial hero. So the Freemason Confederates aren't actually a

1233
01:20:09,119 --> 01:20:12,359
bad aren't actually bad guys because they're they're descendants of

1234
01:20:12,359 --> 01:20:12,960
Albert Pike.

1235
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Speaker 1: Well, for all you knew people, if you don't already

1236
01:20:17,359 --> 01:20:22,439
have your you know, tenfold hat. Albert Pike wrote the

1237
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:26,520
definitive book on freemasonry called Morals and Dogma, in which

1238
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:29,920
he says, like over seventy times that masonry is Kabbala

1239
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,239
And there's some choice quotes in there that if you

1240
01:20:33,359 --> 01:20:37,760
look at any Masonic conspiracy video that they are quoting

1241
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:40,520
it every time, like Lucifer is the light Bearer.

1242
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:45,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, And as I said, his chapter on Christianity basically

1243
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:47,680
says that, oh, actually it was the Gnostics and the

1244
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:50,560
Neil Playtonists that were correct. That's real Christianity. The Trinity

1245
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:54,000
isn't true, it's just what Origin taught. That's the real Christianity.

1246
01:20:54,079 --> 01:20:57,439
So that's the background in the film. They go to

1247
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:00,439
Buckingham Palace. You know, there's a bunch of goofy scenes,

1248
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,239
and it turns out that the film he is Bankers

1249
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:08,600
Bankers and mash the parts phony. They're seeking the city

1250
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:13,039
of Gold seeble Law. So this is a mythical you know,

1251
01:21:13,119 --> 01:21:17,359
Aztec inca thing where there's this hidden city of gold somewhere.

1252
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,800
They go to the Library of Congress. The most ridiculous

1253
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,760
part of this movie, which I think ends up being

1254
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:27,319
kind of American as propaganda, is this idea that there's

1255
01:21:27,359 --> 01:21:31,479
the President's Book, which is this book that tells the

1256
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,720
presidents all the secrets of America, and you only get

1257
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:37,239
to see this if you're the president, and it gives

1258
01:21:37,279 --> 01:21:40,079
the impression that, oh, the president's really calling the shots

1259
01:21:40,119 --> 01:21:42,800
in America. It's not the bankers, it's not the Fortune

1260
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:45,479
one hundred, it's the president because he knows all the

1261
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:49,399
secrets of America and who assassinated Lincoln and who assassinated JFK.

1262
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:54,119
All this nonsense. But I think all of us know

1263
01:21:54,199 --> 01:21:56,399
that the president's not calling the shots. I mean, the

1264
01:21:56,439 --> 01:22:01,199
president is subservient to BB. It's like they're not calling

1265
01:22:01,239 --> 01:22:04,239
the shots, they're not running shit. But the movie gives

1266
01:22:04,279 --> 01:22:06,920
impression that they actually are, and that you know, if

1267
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:10,439
you can just get you know, the president on your side,

1268
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:13,359
then uh, you know, then you can then you can

1269
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:15,920
fix the problems with the bad apples in Washington.

1270
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:20,239
Speaker 1: The way he treated the President was so like, yes,

1271
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:23,159
it's like he was talking to a god.

1272
01:22:23,199 --> 01:22:26,119
Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan. Yeah, It's like it's like a

1273
01:22:26,159 --> 01:22:29,239
celebrity right. The President is just a big A list

1274
01:22:29,279 --> 01:22:31,920
celebrity that you know you got to schmooze up to.

1275
01:22:32,119 --> 01:22:35,920
And they have a shared love for architecture, which was retarded.

1276
01:22:36,239 --> 01:22:38,560
Speaker 1: Well, this kind of makes sense because if you go

1277
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:40,800
in the Capitol Dome and you look up, it's the

1278
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:45,640
apotheosis of Washington. And so they did have this idea

1279
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:49,600
that you could become a god on earth. And then

1280
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:55,039
there's that classic conspiracy picture two of George Washington sculpture

1281
01:22:55,119 --> 01:22:58,359
with his chest exposed and he's doing the as above

1282
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:00,479
so below just like bafame, I would I put that

1283
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:02,680
on my talk now that I'm thinking about it. But

1284
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:07,800
since we're at the Library of Congress, the Secret Architecture

1285
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:11,479
Book actually talks a lot about that and saying that

1286
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:15,199
it houses two of the most impressive zodiacs in the world.

1287
01:23:16,319 --> 01:23:20,880
Columns at the Library with corn, cobs and tobacco represent

1288
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:26,840
America's farming, and again that goes back to the corn

1289
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:30,399
and the wheat is what the goddess is holding. And

1290
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:34,720
Thomas Jefferson actually called DC the Cyrillian Capital because of

1291
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:37,800
all of the zodiac symbols of the green goddess.

1292
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 2: Okay, and so here is that famous painting at the Capitol, right,

1293
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:48,680
the apotheosis of Washington. So he's being treated, like Jamie said,

1294
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:50,439
as if he's a deity. He's kind of the you know,

1295
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:54,159
a celebrity of the time. And in the film Nick

1296
01:23:54,199 --> 01:23:56,640
Cage is treating the President in the exact same way.

1297
01:23:56,680 --> 01:24:01,239
It's pretty funny, but that's kind of another one of

1298
01:24:01,239 --> 01:24:06,800
these One of the bait and switch right of Americanism

1299
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:10,760
and American society is that oh, anyone can become the president. Right.

1300
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:14,439
It's a fair meritocracy where anybody can pull themselves up

1301
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:16,680
other boostraps, and you can become the president, you can

1302
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:19,359
become Sam Walton, you can become anybody, you can become

1303
01:24:19,359 --> 01:24:23,680
a celebrity. Just buy into the American dream and you know,

1304
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:27,159
work hard and you'll rise. The cream rises to the

1305
01:24:27,199 --> 01:24:30,640
top with a little bit of you know, assholes and elbows,

1306
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:33,119
and you'll get to the top. But it's all of

1307
01:24:33,119 --> 01:24:36,159
course ridiculous and nonsensical. I mean, there's a sense in

1308
01:24:36,199 --> 01:24:38,880
which some of that's true in previous decades, but I

1309
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:41,520
think everybody's figured out that, like now with the you know,

1310
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:45,880
is infinity other people here, that that's not going to

1311
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:46,960
be possible.

1312
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:51,680
Speaker 1: Also at the Library of Congress there is a court

1313
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:55,000
of the sea god Neptune. Now we're back to Atlantis

1314
01:24:55,039 --> 01:25:06,600
surrounded by Neptune's nereids, and then you have the nerods

1315
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,760
and dolphins of Atlantis, tritons and Nym's. He's talking about

1316
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,720
thirty three faces of race. I don't know what that means.

1317
01:25:14,119 --> 01:25:16,640
But then you also have floor to zealing zodiacs of

1318
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:19,079
Heaven and Earth at the Library of Congress. Did you

1319
01:25:19,239 --> 01:25:21,680
notice that in any of these scenes. I don't think

1320
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:23,479
they like zoomed in on any of that.

1321
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:25,800
Speaker 2: I think there was a couple of sequences where they

1322
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:28,119
kind of showed Yeah, they kind of showed the dome

1323
01:25:28,359 --> 01:25:32,960
in the in the library here, but they don't spend

1324
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:34,960
a whole lot of time on It's not emphasized because

1325
01:25:35,119 --> 01:25:39,000
the focus of this one, oddly enough, is this ancient

1326
01:25:39,159 --> 01:25:44,560
you know, Aztec inca olmech society or civilization that previously

1327
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:46,720
lived here. So we're supposed to we got this kind

1328
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:50,479
of history channel, you know, chariots of the gods, idea

1329
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:53,319
that oh, actually there was this you know, supremely advanced,

1330
01:25:53,359 --> 01:25:58,199
awesome society that lived here before, which created seebe law

1331
01:25:58,319 --> 01:26:00,600
this you know, highly advanced city of Gold. It was

1332
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:03,520
a kind of an Atlantis. Oh but it all destroyed,

1333
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:06,399
was destroyed. There was a cataclysm. We don't know what happened.

1334
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:10,119
But America will be the new Atlantis. Like this Seebolaw

1335
01:26:10,359 --> 01:26:15,439
was this you know, ancient, you know, mystical city. And

1336
01:26:16,199 --> 01:26:21,319
if we could just figure out the President's mystical gnostic

1337
01:26:22,159 --> 01:26:26,199
the President's gnostic mysteries, if we could decode all of that, right,

1338
01:26:26,279 --> 01:26:29,319
we would we would know the secrets of America, and

1339
01:26:29,399 --> 01:26:31,399
America could become the new Atlantis. I mean, I think

1340
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:33,880
that's the theme of this one, is America as the

1341
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:38,039
new Atlantis. Even though it's not explicit, but I kind

1342
01:26:38,039 --> 01:26:41,439
of feel like in National Treasure three, because they have

1343
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:43,600
to keep upping the ante, right, Nick Cage has to

1344
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:48,880
like steal something more ridiculous than previously. So like, you know,

1345
01:26:49,119 --> 01:26:51,319
what's he going to break into the next one Pentagon

1346
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:54,640
NSA Area fifty one, what's he going to steal? I

1347
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:59,119
don't know, like the supercomputers, the alien body and are

1348
01:26:59,119 --> 01:27:01,920
if it does something really hopefully it doesn't get that retarded.

1349
01:27:03,319 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 1: So here again in the Secret Architecture of DC book,

1350
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:11,039
he's talking about how DC was a new undertaking. Its

1351
01:27:11,079 --> 01:27:13,720
construction marked one of those rare events in history when

1352
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:16,439
a city was planned and built for a specific purpose.

1353
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:22,359
And then the Great Mystery of It takes the Egyptian

1354
01:27:22,399 --> 01:27:24,880
Pyramid as an ideal triangle and links it with the

1355
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:28,359
zodiac sign Virgo. But then he says, some scholars have

1356
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:32,000
noted the Great Seal also resembles the truncated pyramids of

1357
01:27:32,079 --> 01:27:35,880
meso America on which the temple would be built. Yes, right,

1358
01:27:36,279 --> 01:27:38,960
And then he says, the idea is that a truncated

1359
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:44,000
pyramid is completed by a spiritual being, symbolized by the

1360
01:27:44,079 --> 01:27:46,600
Eye of Providence, the all seeing Eye of God. Its

1361
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:48,760
roots in literature may be traced back to the eye horse.

1362
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:54,079
Speaker 3: I'm going to steal the epstream files. I'm going to

1363
01:27:54,119 --> 01:27:57,640
steal the Book of Mormon. I'm going to steal the

1364
01:27:57,720 --> 01:27:59,920
Golden plag I'm going to steal the Book of.

1365
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:04,560
Speaker 2: What are some other like American objects that he I mean,

1366
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:06,560
he has to opt the antea. So what's the next

1367
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:08,920
object going to be? What's an American object that you

1368
01:28:10,079 --> 01:28:11,880
that you could steal? I can't even think of what

1369
01:28:12,039 --> 01:28:12,960
else he could steal.

1370
01:28:13,159 --> 01:28:16,680
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know specifically, but I feel like it's

1371
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:18,920
going to be about aliens because that's the only place,

1372
01:28:19,079 --> 01:28:19,479
that's all.

1373
01:28:19,359 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 2: They ever go. That's the last you know, refuge of

1374
01:28:23,119 --> 01:28:27,359
Hollywood gnostic mysteries is to just go full Spielberg and

1375
01:28:27,399 --> 01:28:29,479
make it about aliens again. I mean they did with

1376
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:31,600
the Indiana Jones and ends up being freaking aliens. That

1377
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:34,560
was so stupid. Please don't turn this into a freaking

1378
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:38,359
Nick Cage alien movie. That's that's so lame. Backseat Sauceman,

1379
01:28:38,399 --> 01:28:40,520
one dollar back seat Sauceman since ten dollars. Thank you

1380
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:45,439
so much. Appreciate that. Welcome to the new members ig Sorrow.

1381
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:45,880
What's up?

1382
01:28:47,119 --> 01:28:49,640
Speaker 1: This is kind of weird. So we were talking about the

1383
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:52,079
House of the Temple of the thirty third, right, Albert Pikes.

1384
01:28:52,319 --> 01:28:54,520
It says the House of the Temple roof reflects the

1385
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:57,800
Great Seal. Its design is the adapting the tomb of

1386
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:05,960
the King Mauzulus. Who where we get the word mausoleum from. Yeah,

1387
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:10,479
so it's a giant tomb. What's a giant tumb the

1388
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:11,520
Temple of thirty third?

1389
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:15,800
Speaker 2: Oh? Interesting, Well, when they get into the ole mec

1390
01:29:16,399 --> 01:29:18,880
inca Aztec tomb or whatever it is here, you know,

1391
01:29:19,039 --> 01:29:22,520
there's there's a funny line where they come to the

1392
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:26,960
altar of human sacrifice and Riley or somebody says, oh,

1393
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:31,159
that's nice, that's where they sacrifice the humans, and Nick

1394
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Cage is like, no, that's what they really did. So

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basically America is a giant consecrated human sacrifice ground. That's

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why it's haunted. That's the theme of the movie, although

1397
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it's also supposedly somehow like, you know, the New Atlantis. So,

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01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:50,960
in other words, to have the New Atlantis, to have

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01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:53,479
the new City of the Gods, we've got to what

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01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:57,479
I guess, have a giant human sacrifice going on. I

1401
01:29:57,479 --> 01:30:00,720
guess that's what abration is. I don't know exactly what

1402
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:02,800
what we're supposed to make of it. They don't actually

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01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:06,640
say like, oh, yeah, this was a degenerate, disgusting, you know,

1404
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:10,119
Apocalypto style culture. It was, you know, what they had

1405
01:30:10,159 --> 01:30:11,840
to do at the time. It was necessary, you know,

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01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:14,760
each to their own banana out of about fifty dollars.

1407
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:18,960
Semi related, did you ever cover Proofs of Conspiracy by

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01:30:19,039 --> 01:30:23,199
John Robinson? I'm familiar with it, although my publisher kind

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01:30:23,199 --> 01:30:27,640
of put out a more updated actual history of the

1410
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:32,399
Illuminati called Perfectibilists by Terry Mulanson. The reason that Washington

1411
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:36,039
warned the Illumini infiltration free Masons. Now, I understand that

1412
01:30:36,079 --> 01:30:39,159
I'm not saying that Washington was pro Jacobin or Illuminist.

1413
01:30:39,239 --> 01:30:42,680
He was against it. And supposedly Washington actually wasn't that

1414
01:30:43,239 --> 01:30:46,640
serious about freemasonry. He like went through the first three

1415
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:50,760
you know, uh, he went through the Blue Lodge levels,

1416
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:54,560
the first three levels, but then supposedly wasn't that interested

1417
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:57,760
in it. But I think that retroactively the Masons co

1418
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:00,920
opted and made George Washington like this super Mason, which

1419
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:04,239
he actually wasn't. But yeah, I'm from I have John

1420
01:31:04,319 --> 01:31:06,800
Robinson's book. It provides pretty good origins of masonry, as

1421
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:10,560
well as from an insider a perspective at the time. Yes, exactly.

1422
01:31:11,039 --> 01:31:14,000
One shot says, your impersonation of Nick Cage was dead on.

1423
01:31:14,199 --> 01:31:15,720
Thank you. I think a lot of people think that's

1424
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:18,319
probably one of my best impressions. But what was on

1425
01:31:18,319 --> 01:31:18,680
your mind?

1426
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:22,560
Speaker 1: I just keep reading these notes and they're really interesting.

1427
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:29,479
So in chapter nine of this book he talks about

1428
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:32,560
the moon landing and buzz Aldrin and Mason. So now

1429
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:36,159
we're going into space, right, which maybe National Treasure three

1430
01:31:36,199 --> 01:31:37,239
will be going into space.

1431
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:39,560
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure it is. It's gonna They're gonna They're

1432
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:43,319
gonna do like Atlantis and Nick Cage is gonna steal

1433
01:31:43,399 --> 01:31:46,039
the freaking golden plates of Joseph Smith and it'll be

1434
01:31:46,079 --> 01:31:49,880
some space garbage story and they'll they'll have to I'm

1435
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:52,560
gonna have to steal space, right, He'll go to steal

1436
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:54,880
the moon or some crazy shit like that, and it'll

1437
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:55,359
I don't.

1438
01:31:55,199 --> 01:31:57,000
Speaker 1: Know, I want to see him break in a nora Ad.

1439
01:31:58,000 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 2: That would be yeah, I mean I would. I would say,

1440
01:32:00,079 --> 01:32:02,760
like if he breaks in you know, Chyenne Mountain or

1441
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:05,439
Norad Complex and like that, that sounds fun, right, And

1442
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:07,640
just please don't make it about aliens, like I don't

1443
01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:10,439
know what else what else could he steal? I don't know.

1444
01:32:11,239 --> 01:32:17,640
Speaker 1: But this is the goal of the manifest Destiny ideas

1445
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:21,319
of Lightenment. So now that they've conquered the New World,

1446
01:32:21,359 --> 01:32:24,760
now that they have that, they're going to go into space, right,

1447
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,800
and the moon is the first step in that. Even

1448
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:31,479
if we did or not, it's still in the imagination.

1449
01:32:32,239 --> 01:32:34,960
And in the book it says alongside the National flag,

1450
01:32:35,039 --> 01:32:39,439
Aldron also carried a Masonic banner embroidered especially for the mission,

1451
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:41,560
and I have a picture on my computer of all

1452
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:44,039
of them kind of like praying to this tiny little

1453
01:32:44,119 --> 01:32:45,359
pyramid before the mission.

1454
01:32:45,359 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 2: You remember that, No, I do know about that because

1455
01:32:50,039 --> 01:32:52,920
the old school conspiracy stuff here. I remember text Mars

1456
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:56,439
did a documentary like twenty twenty five years ago on

1457
01:32:57,039 --> 01:33:00,840
the Masonic elements of the Moon missions and how it

1458
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:03,920
was all dedicated to all this Masonic gibberish, and you know,

1459
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:06,840
Buzz Alder and all these guys were like super dedicated Masons,

1460
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:09,079
and which again makes me feel like, Okay, well, I

1461
01:33:09,079 --> 01:33:11,159
don't trust these people, so why am I supposed to

1462
01:33:11,159 --> 01:33:15,279
believe everything that they say? But anyway, I think that

1463
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:22,239
kind of rounds out the national treasure. We talked about

1464
01:33:22,279 --> 01:33:27,000
the presidential propaganda. We talked about the Queen aided the South,

1465
01:33:27,119 --> 01:33:30,560
and that's of course, you know, because the South provided

1466
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:33,199
a lot of cotton to the UK and then they

1467
01:33:33,239 --> 01:33:37,359
want to lose that that crop. The British elites also

1468
01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:40,760
thought that the South had a more of an aristocratic

1469
01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:44,319
sense about them, and so they favored the Southern attitude

1470
01:33:44,359 --> 01:33:48,560
and culture at that time, and so the British support

1471
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:50,680
of the South some people argue that the British support

1472
01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:53,680
of the South because they wanted to foment revolution to

1473
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:58,640
kind of get America back under sway. I'm not sure

1474
01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:01,319
who knows. I wouldn't be surprised. But the other thing

1475
01:34:01,359 --> 01:34:04,119
that was odd was that that Ed Harris as this

1476
01:34:04,239 --> 01:34:10,600
sort of you know, Confederate villain, ends up sacrificing himself

1477
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:13,199
to save you know, Nick Cage and Riley and John

1478
01:34:13,279 --> 01:34:16,720
Voight and Diane Krueger. So I didn't expect that because

1479
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:22,199
most films, you know, especially Hollywood stuff, like the Southern

1480
01:34:22,279 --> 01:34:24,920
person is the villain, right, you're a blue eyed, blonde person,

1481
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:27,520
you're a villain. If you're a Southerner, you're the villain, right.

1482
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:30,159
And all you do is, like, you know, enslave people

1483
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:32,840
and whip people. That's all Southerners ever did was just

1484
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:34,640
a slave and whip. That's we had nothing. We had

1485
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:36,640
nothing else going on, no time to do anything except

1486
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:39,960
to swip people and enslaved people. That right. So, but

1487
01:34:40,159 --> 01:34:44,000
of course all that's nonsense. But I suspect the only

1488
01:34:44,079 --> 01:34:47,439
reason that Ed Harris ended up not being of total

1489
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:50,359
villain and redeems himself is because he's the descendant of

1490
01:34:50,399 --> 01:34:52,880
Albert Pike. So that's like the only good. You know,

1491
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:56,319
Southerners are like these radical sort of you know, Scottish

1492
01:34:56,359 --> 01:34:57,439
Rite Masons. What do you think.

1493
01:35:00,399 --> 01:35:02,640
Speaker 1: I was reading these notes because they were so interesting.

1494
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:05,119
So as we're like getting towards the end, I just

1495
01:35:05,159 --> 01:35:07,520
wanted to say. In the book, it says from the

1496
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:10,399
very beginning, and this isn't a conspiracy book, this isn't

1497
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:15,199
a crackpot self published like this was in the movie, right,

1498
01:35:16,239 --> 01:35:18,359
So from the very beginning, the city was intended to

1499
01:35:18,359 --> 01:35:24,039
celebrate the mystery of Virgo, the Egyptian Isis, the Grecien series,

1500
01:35:24,079 --> 01:35:28,199
and the Virgin Mary who became Columbia. And it says,

1501
01:35:28,239 --> 01:35:31,199
from an arcane standpoint, the design of the Federal City

1502
01:35:31,239 --> 01:35:34,079
was centered upon the magic of a specific sunset, namely

1503
01:35:34,119 --> 01:35:37,520
the summer solstice on June twenty first, and all of

1504
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:40,119
these a lot of these secrets that he's getting, he says,

1505
01:35:40,159 --> 01:35:45,880
come from a painting a which was called The Washington

1506
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:50,840
Family by Edward Savage, where they are looking over a

1507
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:53,399
map of DC. So in the very ends of the book,

1508
01:35:53,439 --> 01:35:57,399
he's asking if there's kind of like a conspiracy against

1509
01:35:57,439 --> 01:36:02,600
Lamfont because the measurements are not exact to his maps.

1510
01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:10,039
They changed it and kind of made it not good.

1511
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it's all there. Whether it's Kubrick, or whether it's Hitchcock,

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or whether it's Spielberg, you name it Esoterk Callywood one, two,

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in the shop. All of the books at the website

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to be signed, because that's the whole purpose of getting

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them from the website and not from Jeffrey Bezos. Please

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don't get your books from jeff Bezos, my books at

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least because I don't make anything from bezos books. He

1540
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makes all of the money for my books, which seems weird. Jamie,

1541
01:37:49,359 --> 01:37:50,880
What do you have coming up on your channel that

1542
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:51,920
people should go check out?

1543
01:37:53,119 --> 01:37:56,119
Speaker 1: I just did a show for my members on the

1544
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book called the nineteen sixteen Project about Margaret Sanger and

1545
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:09,439
the p l A n NED parenthood and birth control

1546
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and how tiny mustache Man learned their eugenics from American

1547
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eugenic Society not the other way around. Next up, we

1548
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:22,840
have a big fat book on Babylon. We've got doctor

1549
01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:26,279
Zach Porku coming up talking about secularism and we're going

1550
01:38:26,319 --> 01:38:29,399
to do Metropolis and we've got Isaac Wishup and Culture

1551
01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:29,880
the Shadow.

1552
01:38:31,119 --> 01:38:32,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, let's come over here and take a look.

1553
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:37,239
So here's Jamie's channel, and if you come over to

1554
01:38:37,399 --> 01:38:40,800
the videos and latest, this is her. She just read

1555
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:44,640
this nineteen sixteen project book. She's also done a new

1556
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:47,720
talk on screw tape letters, which is cool. I read

1557
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:50,039
that a few years ago myself enjoyed it quite a

1558
01:38:50,079 --> 01:38:53,800
bit as funny because Jamie and Ben Shapiro just happened

1559
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:57,560
to cover screwtape letters that was not planned, by the way,

1560
01:38:58,439 --> 01:39:01,000
And then you've got some other talk here going on.

1561
01:39:01,079 --> 01:39:04,920
Appreciate that good work. Proud of you guys. Remember there's

1562
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:07,520
also a ton of clips channels out here. Now. The

1563
01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:11,039
clippers are going clip crazy. I'm loving it. In fact,

1564
01:39:11,039 --> 01:39:14,239
we had some clips today they got like seventy eighty

1565
01:39:14,319 --> 01:39:17,560
hundred thousand views. Shout out to Jake Raddlesnake for clipping.

1566
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:20,760
That's awesome of him to do that. Really appreciate it.

1567
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:24,279
Remember that we're gonna be doing the Gone Girl and

1568
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:27,079
Eat in Stream with Jim Bob in a couple of days.

1569
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:30,439
And we got some more super chats here papal orb

1570
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Hunter since twenty bucks. Thank you so much, papal orb Hunter,

1571
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and I think that's it for superchats. Otherwise, everybody have

1572
01:39:38,319 --> 01:39:40,439
a good night. Thank you for joining us. This was

1573
01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:42,880
a pre two hundred K party stream. I wanted to

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01:39:42,880 --> 01:39:45,239
go ahead and celebrate even though we got another fifteen

1575
01:39:45,239 --> 01:39:48,560
thousand to go. But I think Lord willing, if everything

1576
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:50,960
goes well, we'll hit that in the next coming months.

1577
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:54,199
At the rate we were going, we should hit two

1578
01:39:54,279 --> 01:39:57,039
hundred thousand pretty soon. We're gonna have a blast for

1579
01:39:57,199 --> 01:39:59,520
our two hundred K party. So if you are enjoying

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the streams, leave me a comment below, like and share,

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Tell me what movies, nick Cage movies, whatever. Usually we

1582
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do nick Cage movies when it comes up to be

1583
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:11,760
a big subscriber milestone. So if you guys want to

1584
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see me do another nick Cage movie analysis when we

1585
01:40:14,239 --> 01:40:16,560
hit two inner k, let me know. Otherwise, everybody have

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a good night. Do you want to say anything