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<v Speaker 2>Now PW Torch and Spreaker bring you the Wade Keller

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<v Speaker 2>Pro Wrestling Podcast. It's time for this week's Interview Classic,

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<v Speaker 2>where Wade Keller interviews one of Pro Wrestling's newsmakers.

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<v Speaker 3>Five years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>This week on the Wade Keller Progressing Podcast, we brought

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<v Speaker 1>you a triple header of three distinct segments on our

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<v Speaker 1>Interview Friday episode, beginning with Triple H's media press conference

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<v Speaker 1>after the NXT debut on USA Network. Then we jump

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<v Speaker 1>back a couple months to July twenty six, twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>at the Trego Stays Progressing Hall of Fame weekend in Waterloo,

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<v Speaker 1>Iowa at the five Sullivan Brothers Convention Center, where Bruce

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<v Speaker 1>Mitchell and I interviewed Nick dinsmore known as Eugene in person.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a trainer of John Cena, brock Lesner, Batista

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<v Speaker 1>and The Rock and told some great stories about that

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<v Speaker 1>and more. And then after that a panel discussion from

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<v Speaker 1>the next day including Beth Phoenix, Bob rup Baron, Von

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<v Speaker 1>Rashki Thuttererbow Patterson, and Gerald Briscoe. I summarize it more

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<v Speaker 1>coming up here in the original introduction to this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>which dropped originally on September twentieth, twenty nineteen, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is Today's Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast Interview Classic for Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>September twentieth, twenty twenty four on Today's wad Keller Pro

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<v Speaker 1>Wrestling Podcast Interview Friday. It's a special triple header with

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<v Speaker 1>three different distinct segments. First, we go to the Triple

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<v Speaker 1>H Media conference Call, where for about twenty five minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>he answered media questions after NXT's debut on USA Network

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<v Speaker 1>this past Wednesday night. He talks about the thought process

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<v Speaker 1>that went into planning what would be featured as a

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<v Speaker 1>first impression for new viewers on USA Network, Vincent Man's involvement,

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<v Speaker 1>and if he had heard any reaction from him yet,

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<v Speaker 1>whether the full sale venue is sufficient in the long

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<v Speaker 1>run for a national cable show, setting the involvement of

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<v Speaker 1>the cruiser Weights, the show was structured differently because of

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<v Speaker 1>the split between USA and WWE Network, Whether NXT is

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<v Speaker 1>still considered a developmental territory now that it's on national

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<v Speaker 1>cable and earning tens of millions of dollars a year

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<v Speaker 1>for the company, and utilizing Cruiserweights on the show, along

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<v Speaker 1>with some other topics, so that comes first. Thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly Wells of pw torch dot com. He covers NXTTV

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<v Speaker 1>for pw torch dot Com. Also is the host of

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<v Speaker 1>the PWT Talks NXT edition of the PW Torch Daily cast.

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<v Speaker 1>He asked a question on this call and also did

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<v Speaker 1>record it for all of us. Second Up is an

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<v Speaker 1>ever before heard interview from a couple months ago, late

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<v Speaker 1>July actually with Nick Dinsmore, who wrestled in WWE. As

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<v Speaker 1>Eugene Bruce Mitchell and I conducted this interview. This took

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<v Speaker 1>place right before the interview we featured earlier with Sergeant Slaughter,

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<v Speaker 1>the mega awesome interview with Sergeant Slaughter that I'm super

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<v Speaker 1>proud of and has gotten such good feedback, that was

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<v Speaker 1>conducted right after this. In fact, as you listen to

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Dinsmore talk, you'll hear Sergeant Slaughter enter the room

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<v Speaker 1>and get around of applause and sit down and interject

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<v Speaker 1>himself a little bit during this. So this is the

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<v Speaker 1>never before heard warm up ACKed in a sense, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's worth listening to. Nick Dinsmore talks about training at

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<v Speaker 1>the very beginning of their careers. Are very earlier in

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<v Speaker 1>their careers, the rock Batista, brock Lesner, and John Cena,

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<v Speaker 1>what a class of future megastars, and he shares some

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<v Speaker 1>anecdotes about what they were like early on.

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<v Speaker 3>Was brock Lezra a nice guy?

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<v Speaker 4>Was he Adiva?

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<v Speaker 1>Did he see greatness in John Cena early on what

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<v Speaker 3>He has a funny line.

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<v Speaker 1>About how he felt when he would just gaze toward

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<v Speaker 1>Dwayne Johnson and look at him, and also Batista. So

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<v Speaker 1>he also talks about whether those four stood out above

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<v Speaker 1>any above everybody else, and in what separates somebody with

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<v Speaker 1>that eventual success from those who maybe are driven but

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<v Speaker 1>don't get successful, or maybe are less driven, par equally

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<v Speaker 1>talented and don't end up as successful. So he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of gets into the details on that. He also talks

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<v Speaker 1>about the Eugene character and some of the controversy with

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<v Speaker 1>it and maybe some awkwardness doing media interviews at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>In character, he also talks about a rib used to

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<v Speaker 1>play on Matt Stryker repeatedly and more so again another

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<v Speaker 1>twenty some minutes with Nick, Eugene Dinsmore, Bruce Mitchell, and

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<v Speaker 1>I conducting the interview in front of a live audience

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<v Speaker 1>at the five Sullivan Brothers Convention Center at the annual

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<v Speaker 1>George Fragol's Lutha's Progressing Hall of Fame. I hope if

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<v Speaker 1>you're in driving distance or flying distance with the orth

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<v Speaker 1>flying out for this event, that she'll be there next year.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a really fun time. The Impact Pro Wrestling Independent

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<v Speaker 1>Group runs a star studded event on Friday with a

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<v Speaker 1>raucous crowd of regular fans and people in town for

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<v Speaker 1>the convention. And then there's a Hall of Fame ceremony

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<v Speaker 1>that involves MMA and amateur along with professional inductees at

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<v Speaker 1>the five Cultland Brothers Convention Center. There's panel disguys and

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<v Speaker 1>access to the Dan Gable Wrestling Museum, the National Wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>Museum in Waterloo, Iowa, which features extensive amateur a setup

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<v Speaker 1>and also some cool stuff from the pro wrestling realm. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Mitchell, Jason Powell and I were among those who

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<v Speaker 1>got to wander around in the storage basement and see

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<v Speaker 1>all the pro wrestling memorabilia that wasn't on display on

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<v Speaker 1>the top floor. But they'll be apparently rotating and expanding

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<v Speaker 1>the pro wrestling section for next year's convention. So what

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<v Speaker 1>we'll tell you more about that, but you can always

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<v Speaker 1>look up National Wrestling Hall of Fame or George Trago's

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<v Speaker 1>Luthe's Progressing Hall of Fame on Google and find the

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<v Speaker 1>home site and keep.

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<v Speaker 3>Up on details.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we wrap up with another section around twenty Minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>which features Beth Phoenix, who is the color commentator on

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<v Speaker 1>NXT on USA Network, And this was part of a

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<v Speaker 1>panel discussion that included Bob rup Baron von Rashke, Thunderbil Patterson,

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<v Speaker 1>in Gerald Brisco.

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<v Speaker 3>Beth got most of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Questions and did most of the talking, and I caught

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<v Speaker 1>most of that with my recorder, and she talks about

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<v Speaker 1>a variety of really cool topics, including her thoughts on

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<v Speaker 1>the transition from the Diva's era to what it is

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<v Speaker 1>now and what that means to her and her frank

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<v Speaker 1>blunt thoughts about the Divas era that she was part of.

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<v Speaker 1>Also who she thinks are top emerging stars today, male

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<v Speaker 1>and female outside of WWE. I think people will be

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<v Speaker 1>interested and their ears a per cup when they heard

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<v Speaker 1>the name she picked out as future stars, and in

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<v Speaker 1>particular her hope that when kids watch pro wrestling, they

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<v Speaker 1>see a slice of themselves in at least one or

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<v Speaker 1>two of the characters on television, no matter what their background, orientation,

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<v Speaker 1>anything having to do with what they identify as. She

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<v Speaker 1>wants pro wrestling rosters to be diversified enough to be

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<v Speaker 1>represented and at the very end, Baron von Rashki chimes

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<v Speaker 1>in with a joke about his imaginary sister, Big Bertha.

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<v Speaker 3>Who he used to dress bas.

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<v Speaker 1>In the AWA. So in case you're wondering who that

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<v Speaker 1>was and what that's all about, that is that's what

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<v Speaker 1>comes in at the end. Actually, at the beginning, Jerald

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<v Speaker 1>Brisco talks about teaming with his brother and feuding with

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<v Speaker 1>a Funks and Jay young Blood and Rick Steamboat and

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<v Speaker 1>some other topics about the tag teams that helped define.

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<v Speaker 3>His career as a tag team wrestler.

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<v Speaker 1>So real diverse mix. I've kind of been sitting on

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<v Speaker 1>these two sections with with Beth Phoenix and Gerald and

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<v Speaker 1>also Gene for a couple months just because there's been

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<v Speaker 1>so many other shows on Interview Friday that I've wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to put up, or we've just had a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>mail bag mailbank questions to get to, or we've had

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<v Speaker 1>pay per views in major events to preview, and we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of mix it up on Fridays with those formats,

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<v Speaker 1>so we kind of get to exhale this week a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit with a lighter weekend, as far as that

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<v Speaker 1>goes without a Summer Slam or a Class of Champions

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<v Speaker 1>On the flagship Thursday edition. Yesterday, Johnny Fairplay joined me

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<v Speaker 1>and we covered some current events and also answered mail

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<v Speaker 1>bay questions on a variety of topics. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>miss that, check that out. The daily schedule of this

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Brand, the Weight, Color Prossing Podcast might change a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit as we get into October. So just if

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<v Speaker 1>refresh on certain days, just be aware you might want

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<v Speaker 1>you expect to show that it doesn't appear as we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of adjust to the new schedule because it used

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<v Speaker 1>to be Monday and Tuesdays we're really busy, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>the Monday, Wednesday Friday pattern coming up, and so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still kind of working out how we're going to fit

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<v Speaker 1>everything in now that we're adding the Wednesday post show

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<v Speaker 1>So with that primer that setup out of the way,

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<v Speaker 1>let's begin with Triple H talking with the wrestling media

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<v Speaker 1>immediately following the NXT debut on USA Network this past Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you Paul for being here.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, first first night of this first kickoff, it's

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<v Speaker 5>I just stood in front of talent and said hard

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<v Speaker 5>to follow up what they just accomplished without saying anything

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<v Speaker 5>that doesn't really sound right other than to say how

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<v Speaker 5>proud I am of all of this. It's taken a

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<v Speaker 5>long time to get here, but this was the star

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<v Speaker 5>starting line, not the finish line, and we went out

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<v Speaker 5>there tonight on the number one network on cable television USA.

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<v Speaker 5>Amazing partners for us for years and put on what

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<v Speaker 5>I feel was an epic hour of programming on USA

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<v Speaker 5>number one trend US number one in the world the

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<v Speaker 5>entire time, number four in the world the entire time.

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<v Speaker 5>Tough to say much more than that. I thought it

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<v Speaker 5>was a hell of a night, and I thought it

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<v Speaker 5>was an epic performance on everybody's part. I'm proud of

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<v Speaker 5>his team, from behind the scenes to in front of it.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to thank our partners here at Full Sale

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<v Speaker 5>University because without them this doesn't happen. You know, they're

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<v Speaker 5>great night. The beautiful part is we get to do

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<v Speaker 4>Questions from all of you, Hi, guys are going to

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<v Speaker 6>So talk about what goes into You know, you can

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<v Speaker 1>One first impression, so so many tonight are getting their

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<v Speaker 7>We went into the thought process of deciding what matches

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<v Speaker 5>to get across in these first episodes. But by also

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<v Speaker 5>but we still have to, like you know, there's there's

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<v Speaker 5>for anybody that's doing live television in that manner where

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<v Speaker 5>at a particular time you are off the air, whether

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<v Speaker 4>The tricky part. The beautiful thing about.

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<v Speaker 5>and uh, and we can roll with these punches and

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<v Speaker 5>get them done. It's not our first gig, it's not

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<v Speaker 5>an epic first shot. It's it is a little nice,

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<v Speaker 5>are also you know, I'm happy that if you're if

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<v Speaker 5>the fans that have been with us since the beginning,

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<v Speaker 5>they know, the ones that don't, this is new to them.

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<v Speaker 5>it for a couple of weeks. I sound like I'm

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<v Speaker 5>making breaking bad or something, but but but you give

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<v Speaker 5>wanting more. And we'll give that to them over these

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<v Speaker 5>When we hit that first two weeks, that first two

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<v Speaker 5>hour stride on ten two, we're gonna knock this thing

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<v Speaker 5>make sure that people are engaged, because by the first

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<v Speaker 5>that that's the goal of this. It's it's kind of

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<v Speaker 5>a blessing in disguise, a little bit for me.

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<v Speaker 8>I like it.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, the format two matches before the live and then

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<v Speaker 9>is that something going forward He's going to do two

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, although it's you know, I mean, look, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>And Sean Muluta.

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<v Speaker 5>and uh, you know, we used him in the Cruiserweight Classic,

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<v Speaker 5>and I really I'm happy that he gets the opportunity

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<v Speaker 5>and I think you're going to see a lot of that.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a massive amount of opportunity here for people within

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<v Speaker 5>what we do. I want to keep this fresh. I

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<v Speaker 5>want to keep it moving. You know, you saw Imperium

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<v Speaker 5>here tonight from the UK. You saw Cruiserweight matches with

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<v Speaker 5>all those things are ways to keep this constantly fresh

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<v Speaker 5>and evolving, constantly moving forward and giving fans something different

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<v Speaker 5>in a lot of ways at all times. As far

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<v Speaker 5>I think having a few matches prior to us get

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<v Speaker 5>going allows us to settle into a groove that allows

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<v Speaker 5>us to make sure everything is working right. And those

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<v Speaker 5>will also be great content for for whatever we decide

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<v Speaker 5>figuring that part out right now. I'm concerned about two

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<v Speaker 11>Okay, we'll go to the phones.

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<v Speaker 4>One question for Al.

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<v Speaker 12>Thank you. We'll hear from Mike Johnson with PW insider

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<v Speaker 13>Please go ahead, Hey, Paul, how am I doing?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm great?

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<v Speaker 12>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 3>You're pretty happy.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 13>I'm guessing you're pretty happy right now.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm I'm very happy. You know.

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<v Speaker 5>It's it's it's very rare for me at.

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<v Speaker 4>NXT when we do something big or.

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<v Speaker 5>Live that I don't walk away happy from it. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>is this a work in progress? Are there things that

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<v Speaker 5>I want to do better? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to be my own worst critic and I

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<v Speaker 14>But I'm really happy.

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<v Speaker 13>So my question is the the show is format. It's

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<v Speaker 13>pretty much be all. No promos really on the show

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<v Speaker 13>other than the videos, very little on the vignettes.

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<v Speaker 4>Talk a little bit.

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<v Speaker 13>About the decision to put action first and let the

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<v Speaker 5>To establish who we is.

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<v Speaker 13>and a lot of mic work on the show tonight.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think we'll approach things differently at all times.

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<v Speaker 5>But I do think we did spend If you go

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<v Speaker 5>back and you broke this apart into that first USA

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<v Speaker 5>hour and you broke that apart, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>character development that actually happened within those segments. It has

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<v Speaker 5>to be quick and it's got to be hits. You

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<v Speaker 5>don't have, you know, you don't have a whole segment

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<v Speaker 5>to have somebody go out there and cut a promo

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<v Speaker 5>and build a character in that manner, you know, for me,

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<v Speaker 5>him tonight with what we did, and now I am

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<v Speaker 5>I think though when we get into the two hours,

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<v Speaker 4>You have to do that stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>You have to give me information, not just in the

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<v Speaker 5>ring and not just physical, but how do you get

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<v Speaker 5>to those matches? How do you build those characters and

426
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<v Speaker 5>those character arcs and those storyline arcs to get to

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<v Speaker 5>where the matches themselves mean the most they can mean.

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<v Speaker 5>You have to do that stuff, but the way that

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<v Speaker 5>you do it you constantly just have to me, my

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<v Speaker 5>opinion is you constantly have to be giving me fresh,

431
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<v Speaker 5>new something information, something I got to learn, something new.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like that people short attention span theater is

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<v Speaker 5>if it's the same thing they've seen, if you're giving

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<v Speaker 5>me a new piece of information, if you're giving it

435
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<v Speaker 5>to me in a different way, if it's a new look,

436
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<v Speaker 5>if it's something more, I'm intrigued by that and I

437
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<v Speaker 5>want to stay and watch it. So those are things

438
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<v Speaker 5>we'll work on as we move forward. Tonight was clearly

439
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<v Speaker 5>a particular type of show for a particular reason. Going forward,

440
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<v Speaker 5>they'll all be particular types of shows for particular reasons.

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<v Speaker 5>They'll just be different.

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<v Speaker 13>All right, Well, thanks for the time, Thank you, till

443
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<v Speaker 13>you're next.

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<v Speaker 12>From Jason Powell with Pro Wrestling dot Net, please go ahead.

445
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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, hey, Paul, Hey, how different would the second hour

446
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<v Speaker 15>have looked and been booked had it actually aired on

447
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<v Speaker 15>USA Network?

448
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<v Speaker 14>And if you had competition running against you? Did you

449
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<v Speaker 14>kind of take a little bit of a lighter approach

450
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<v Speaker 14>with some of that by featuring some of the more

451
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<v Speaker 14>I guess. I guess everyone's developmental to a point, but

452
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<v Speaker 14>it did seem like you had some talent on there

453
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<v Speaker 14>that maybe wouldn't make the cut other weeks or am

454
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<v Speaker 14>I mistaken?

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<v Speaker 5>No, Look to your point of the developmental. I believe

456
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<v Speaker 5>in this business you're developmental till the day you stop

457
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<v Speaker 5>getting in the ring. You learn every single time you're

458
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<v Speaker 5>in there.

459
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<v Speaker 4>The day that you.

460
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<v Speaker 5>Stop learning about what's next in this business and what's

461
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<v Speaker 5>coming up and what's new and stop growing, you should

462
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<v Speaker 5>stop because you're done. So everyone as developmental, as far

463
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<v Speaker 5>as the people in the show. Yeah, Look, how would

464
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<v Speaker 5>it have been different? Well, one, it would have had commercial

465
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<v Speaker 5>breaks too. We would have to go right to the

466
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<v Speaker 5>exact moment of going off the air. You know, we

467
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<v Speaker 5>went off the earlier as our network and we can

468
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<v Speaker 5>we can tweak some things around and change some things.

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<v Speaker 5>Would that hour have been different Yes, Would it have

470
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<v Speaker 5>been massively different? Nope. You know, here's the thing. You

471
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<v Speaker 5>have two hours. Not everything in there can be you know, poorn,

472
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<v Speaker 5>gas and the fire. You have to have moments and times.

473
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<v Speaker 5>You know, it's a funny thing in the world when

474
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<v Speaker 5>people watch a Game of Thrones or something like that,

475
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<v Speaker 5>there have to be some episodes or at least some

476
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<v Speaker 5>moments within those shows where they're building to something bigger.

477
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<v Speaker 5>If everything is just you know, a massive explosion. Then

478
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<v Speaker 5>it's just it's all the same. It doesn't mean anything.

479
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<v Speaker 5>So you have to have that ebb and flow and

480
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<v Speaker 5>you have to have that stuff. I want to debut

481
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<v Speaker 5>new characters. I want to get new performers out there.

482
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<v Speaker 5>I want to give opportunity to people, one that are

483
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<v Speaker 5>returning or that they haven't seen in a while, or

484
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<v Speaker 5>two that they they've never seen, and and give it

485
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<v Speaker 5>to them in that manner. But to do that, you

486
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<v Speaker 5>have to you have to do things differently, shake things

487
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<v Speaker 5>up and you and you have to have those moments

488
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<v Speaker 5>where you know you're you're gonna rely on fans to

489
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<v Speaker 5>go like, hey, this is somebody new, but you know

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<v Speaker 5>what I want, I want to give them a shot. Right,

491
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<v Speaker 5>I'm not gonna I'm not gonna to leave because I've

492
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<v Speaker 5>never seen this person before. I'm gonna leave because I'm

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<v Speaker 5>gonna not leave because I'm interested in finding out more

494
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<v Speaker 5>about them, because we've done a good enough job before

495
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<v Speaker 5>you see them the first time of building some hype

496
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<v Speaker 5>around it that you're interested in. And that's really what

497
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<v Speaker 5>I want to do is just keep people interested.

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<v Speaker 15>All right, Thank you very much, Thank you well.

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<v Speaker 12>Here next from Connorcasey with Comic book dot Com.

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<v Speaker 14>Please go ahead, you much appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 8>I think a lot of players are really surprised to

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<v Speaker 8>see Leo Rush back in the fold tonight with his returns,

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<v Speaker 8>and that was playing out ahead of time or was

504
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<v Speaker 8>this a fairly in recent development.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's something we've been talking about for a while.

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<v Speaker 5>But look the this whole thing of an XT in USA.

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<v Speaker 5>While we've been talking about doing it for a year

508
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<v Speaker 5>and a half, two years, then when it finally happens,

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<v Speaker 5>it's a recent development because when it until it actually happens,

510
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<v Speaker 5>you know, it hasn't happened. So until we knew what

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<v Speaker 5>was going on, there was a bit of a of

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<v Speaker 5>a lag there. And uh, you know, I'm I'm just

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<v Speaker 5>really excited Leo Rush one of the He just a

514
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<v Speaker 5>phenomenal energetic and uh and money performer to me, and

515
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<v Speaker 5>and I'm thrilled that we can put him in this

516
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<v Speaker 5>show and have him showcase what he does. He was

517
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<v Speaker 5>spectacular tonight he and on he both tore up and

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<v Speaker 5>and uh, you know that that's what.

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<v Speaker 4>This is about.

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<v Speaker 11>We next, Paul, thank you so much for time.

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<v Speaker 14>Hey you so.

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<v Speaker 4>Chompa released this video.

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<v Speaker 13>Earlier today, very cool video where it looked like he

538
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<v Speaker 13>was ready to get back into action.

539
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<v Speaker 5>What's the latest one with chomp?

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<v Speaker 15>Has he been cleared to return?

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<v Speaker 5>He is getting very close. You know, when you when

542
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<v Speaker 5>you come down to the end. Unfortunately, I've been through

543
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<v Speaker 5>a lot of when you come down to the end,

544
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<v Speaker 5>there's this point in time where you are just chomping

545
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<v Speaker 5>at the bit, You're ready to go, You feel like

546
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<v Speaker 5>you can move the world, and yet the doctors are

547
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<v Speaker 5>still like just giving a bit more like just take

548
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<v Speaker 5>it slow. That last couple of percent to getting to

549
00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:22.680
<v Speaker 5>one hundred percent is the most frustrating part for an

550
00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:25.319
<v Speaker 5>athlete because you feel like you're ready to take on

551
00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:30.039
<v Speaker 5>the world and you just can't quite yet. And he's ready,

552
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<v Speaker 5>He's as close as you know he can get. But

553
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<v Speaker 5>when they give him the green light, he is the

554
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<v Speaker 5>racehorse right now, stomping and pushing against that gate, and

555
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<v Speaker 5>when that doctor tells him go, he's gonna come flying

556
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<v Speaker 5>out of there.

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<v Speaker 6>Cool.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Paul, thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 16>Congratulations on a great show tonight.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you very much, and we'll hear.

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<v Speaker 12>Next from Kelly Wells with tw toorch dot com.

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<v Speaker 17>Please go ahead, ni cool, thanks for a show. How

563
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<v Speaker 17>are you doing? Thanks for a show full of surprise tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>So thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 17>Using the raw and the Manhattan Center an example, other

566
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<v Speaker 17>live shows have originally emanated from the same arena week

567
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<v Speaker 17>after week, but is NXT unique and that the decision

568
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<v Speaker 17>to stay at full sale for the foreseeaful future allows

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<v Speaker 17>talents to remain grounded at the performance center. And what

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<v Speaker 17>role did the crowd play given that we know that

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<v Speaker 17>this crowd will react positively, not only to the existing talent,

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<v Speaker 17>but the addition of the cruiserweights.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think that the decision to stay here was many,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, there was many the thoughts and different components

575
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<v Speaker 5>that went into it business wise, our partnership here.

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<v Speaker 4>But for me also too.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, when we say we are NXT this, that's

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<v Speaker 5>a part of it. This crowd that's here, a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of them have been coming to this since day one,

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<v Speaker 5>and they come to the shows and they support the

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<v Speaker 5>s shows you know, around Florida, and they're a part

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<v Speaker 5>of this. And we have people travel in from all

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<v Speaker 5>over the place kind of and come to Florida on

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<v Speaker 5>their vacations or whatever. And part of the what they

585
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<v Speaker 5>do while they're here, they're looking for an NXT event

586
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<v Speaker 5>to go to and that's a really cool thing. And

587
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<v Speaker 5>they've been such an integral part of that. When I

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<v Speaker 5>say we are NXT, I mean them, we all of us,

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<v Speaker 5>the talent, the crew, the everybody. They're a part of

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<v Speaker 5>this team that made this thing work and they are

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<v Speaker 5>as well. So there's there's a part of it for

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<v Speaker 5>me like emotionally that I go, yeah, I don't want

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<v Speaker 5>to do this anywhere else. I want to do it

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<v Speaker 5>right here, and I want these people that are here

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<v Speaker 5>every single you know, show that we've done. I want

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<v Speaker 5>them to be able to stand up on the USA Network,

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<v Speaker 5>the number one network on cable television, and to be

598
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<v Speaker 5>able to stand up and let their voices be heard

599
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<v Speaker 5>and show who they are and how proud they are

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<v Speaker 5>of it. They got it to where it is as

601
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<v Speaker 5>much as we did, the talent did, the crew did,

602
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<v Speaker 5>the everybody else did, but they were there for it.

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<v Speaker 5>And and this is the thank you, right, this is

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<v Speaker 5>the this is the moment in time they get to

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<v Speaker 5>come on the ride with us and they get to

606
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<v Speaker 5>experience this as well and and be a part of

607
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<v Speaker 5>this live. So you know, when when this building here

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<v Speaker 5>at at Full Sale University, the Full Sale Live, which

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<v Speaker 5>you know might as well be called the n x

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<v Speaker 5>T Arena. When when they're live and something is good,

611
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<v Speaker 5>there is no more energetic environment than here. It's it's

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<v Speaker 5>a crazy vibe here and and you know, I love it.

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<v Speaker 5>And to me, this is the thank you. Thank you

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<v Speaker 5>for for helping us get to where we are, and

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<v Speaker 5>thank you for coming along in the ride and continue

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<v Speaker 5>to come along with us because we're just getting started.

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<v Speaker 17>You know, yes, absolutely, thanks for a great show.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 18>Are you a fan of AW looking at sit back,

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<v Speaker 18>relax and listen to some like minded podcasters who share

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<v Speaker 18>your passion. Do you want to be topped off the

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<v Speaker 18>ledge after a segment that has you wondering what the

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<v Speaker 18>heck are they thinking? Do you want to join a

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<v Speaker 18>discussion on what AW is doing right and what they

625
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<v Speaker 18>could do to improve? Then join me, Joel and me

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<v Speaker 12>And we'll hear next from Bryan for.

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<v Speaker 19>Hey Ryan, a Paul Paul Killer show tonight. Thank you

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<v Speaker 19>so for the people who are watching at home. And

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<v Speaker 19>I don't even know if you know this yet because

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<v Speaker 19>were obviously very busy tonight, but there were massive issues

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<v Speaker 19>with the WWE network tonight where people were trying to

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<v Speaker 19>log in and they couldn't. There was all these password issues.

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<v Speaker 19>Do you have any ideas there have been any word

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<v Speaker 19>brought back to you yet on what might have caused that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, so I heard about it.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't believe from my understanding, just from what I've

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<v Speaker 5>heard so far, I don't believe it was a massive,

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<v Speaker 5>widespread thing, you know, like bad news travels fast. But

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<v Speaker 5>I don't believe it was as big as it was

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<v Speaker 5>kind of put out.

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<v Speaker 4>There to be.

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<v Speaker 5>I think there was a select grouping of people that

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<v Speaker 5>couldn't log in or something. To my understanding. The great

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<v Speaker 5>thing is with the WW network, once the issue was

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<v Speaker 5>addressed and fixed, they could log right in and you

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<v Speaker 5>can go back and watch it right now on demand,

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<v Speaker 5>and you can watch it whenever you want. So it's

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<v Speaker 5>sitting right there. You know, with the platform, comes comes

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<v Speaker 5>little glitches and issues. I know we're they're in the

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<v Speaker 5>process of figuring it all out and hopefully that's something

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<v Speaker 5>that ever happen again. And you know, for our for

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<v Speaker 5>our fan base that was was there watching it, then

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<v Speaker 5>go back and watch.

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<v Speaker 4>It right now.

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<v Speaker 11>Cool.

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<v Speaker 4>Cool.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll thank you, thank you, and.

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<v Speaker 12>We'll take our last question from Sean Ross staff with

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<v Speaker 12>Fightful Please go ahead.

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<v Speaker 16>Hey sew, Hey Paul, thanks for taking the time. Of course,

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<v Speaker 16>one of the big discussions is how much would Vincent Man,

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<v Speaker 16>if at all, have any hand in this show.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you get any input.

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<v Speaker 16>From him before, during, or immediately after this show? Maybe

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<v Speaker 16>any any tips, anything of that nature.

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<v Speaker 5>I received a bunch of texts from him throughout the day, Uh,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, excited and excited to see it and uh,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, wishing us a lot, especially as they got close.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, he was sending me a little text counting

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<v Speaker 5>me down to twenty minutes, you know, which I thought

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<v Speaker 5>was great because you know, it's it was just fun.

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<v Speaker 5>But and then he sent me a few text rash

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<v Speaker 5>he watched the entire thing. I'm sure he's at the office,

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<v Speaker 5>probably in a meeting while he was doing it. But

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<v Speaker 5>he enjoyed it. He loved it, and uh thought talented

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<v Speaker 5>a hell of a job. Thought they knocked it out

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<v Speaker 5>of the park. You know, he was excited. He sent

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<v Speaker 5>me a massive congratulations after it was over, and was

685
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<v Speaker 5>thrilled with the product. You know, it's it's a funny

686
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<v Speaker 5>thing because you know, people don't give him the credit.

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<v Speaker 5>He embraces the difference. He embraces the difference. The products

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<v Speaker 5>should be different, and he embraces that difference and is

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<v Speaker 5>all into that difference and can see the difference and

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, it's like liking different types of music

691
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<v Speaker 5>and one thing might be somebody's cup of tea, something

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<v Speaker 5>else might be the other. But you can appreciate all

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<v Speaker 5>of it. And I think that's the you know, the

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<v Speaker 5>best way of saying it. He absolutely appreciates it and

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<v Speaker 5>thought it was great. So you know, he sent me

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<v Speaker 5>a congrats to us, to the crew and to the.

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<v Speaker 4>All the talent. Thanks, Paul, thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry what you're saying. One more was that was okay? Well,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I thought we had a spectacular night. And

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<v Speaker 5>I appreciate everybody's support on this and wanting to be involved,

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<v Speaker 5>and I you appreciate all the conversation around it. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>obviously you'd be doing this every week. I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>that doing every single thing every week is the best

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<v Speaker 5>way to do it. But I want to keep these

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<v Speaker 5>doors open. I want to keep these conversations going and

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<v Speaker 5>and let you guys help be a part of this

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<v Speaker 5>and make it the best show that we can make

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<v Speaker 5>it that my goal is as good as everybody feels

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<v Speaker 5>it was tonight. There are some things I want to

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<v Speaker 5>do better and We're going to make this the best

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<v Speaker 5>show on television. That's that's the goal. So you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I was thrilled. My hat's off to everybody, and I

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<v Speaker 5>thank you all for the for the support tonight. Thank

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<v Speaker 5>you very much.

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<v Speaker 20>Thanks everybody, Every good night.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to wait for the way Keller Pro

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<v Speaker 1>Wrestling post show to find out what I thought of

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00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:07.039
<v Speaker 1>Monday Night Raw and SmackDown. Each week, you can check

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<v Speaker 1>out my reports that are updated live throughout Raw and

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<v Speaker 1>SmackDown at pwtorch dot com. My written report will tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what's happening in detail in case you missed the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and it will also analyze key segments and give my

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<v Speaker 1>random thoughts quips on what I am watching as it airs.

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<v Speaker 1>So check it out every Monday night and Tuesday night

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<v Speaker 1>at pwtorch dot com. That also applies to wwepayperviews. I

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<v Speaker 1>cover those live at pw torch dot com with a

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<v Speaker 1>detailed written report with star ratings, and of course you

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<v Speaker 1>can find other TV reports from other contributors to PW

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<v Speaker 1>torch such as nxt roh, Impact Wrestling and more. Check

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<v Speaker 1>it out pwtorch dot com your first stop for TV

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<v Speaker 1>and pay per view written reports, and now we moved

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<v Speaker 1>to the interview Bruce Mitchell and I conducted at the

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<v Speaker 1>five Sullivan Brothers Convention Center in front of a live

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<v Speaker 1>audience at the George Tragels Luthez Pro Wrestling Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>Fame Weekend Happenings. This interview took place on Friday, July

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixth.

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<v Speaker 3>Our guest Nick Dinsmore. No one in WWE as Eugene.

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00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:25.000
<v Speaker 21>I will at the Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame luthas George, George,

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<v Speaker 21>George Tregos Luthez, and it's the highlight of every summer.

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<v Speaker 21>It's really cool to do this, and we've been a

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<v Speaker 21>little more free for him. We've got the famed Eugene frame,

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<v Speaker 21>Nick din Dinwe all kinds of things in professional wrestling.

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00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:45.679
<v Speaker 1>And in the Chris tradition of wrestling promoters.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a packed house tonight.

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<v Speaker 7>Out to the raptors, not an empty scene in the house.

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<v Speaker 7>Were turned away at the door the Raptors.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm wad Keller, pros and coach editor, hosts of

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<v Speaker 1>the Wake Color Prosing podcast. Bruce Mitchell is the senior

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<v Speaker 1>columnist nineteen ninety with Pro Wrestling Torch and also the

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<v Speaker 1>star of the Bruce Mitchelladio Show, the second longest running

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<v Speaker 1>weekly podcast on any subject anywhere since two thousand.

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<v Speaker 3>And four, before the word podcast existed.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have Nick Dinsmore Eugene as our first guest.

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<v Speaker 1>And so if you guys have questions or want to

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<v Speaker 1>interject at any point as we're talking, just.

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<v Speaker 3>Wave and let me know.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when we kind of get to a break point,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll we'll go to you first.

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<v Speaker 7>Can we spec to you, mister Dinsmore?

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<v Speaker 21>Sure I know you are training wrestlers now, talk about

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00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:31.440
<v Speaker 21>what you're doing now in the business and where and

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<v Speaker 21>how it's all working.

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<v Speaker 22>Since twenty fifteen, My wife and I live in Sue Fall,

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<v Speaker 22>South Dakota.

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<v Speaker 7>She's from Sioux Falls. I'm from Louisville, Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 22>We now live in Swuit Falls and we're in Midwest

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<v Speaker 22>All Pro Wrestling now have just about thirty students. We're

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<v Speaker 22>on two monthly events plus other events. We tour around

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<v Speaker 22>and try to take live pro wrestling entertainment around the Midwest,

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<v Speaker 22>all ages, family friendly, Eugene style live entertainment and train

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<v Speaker 22>wrestlers in the art and professional wrestling guys that want

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<v Speaker 22>to either wrestle just to try it, or guys that

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<v Speaker 22>want to wrestle for w you try.

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<v Speaker 4>To tcd art.

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<v Speaker 21>How's that experience been. How's teaching compared to you know,

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<v Speaker 21>looking out for yourself and managing your own career. Well,

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<v Speaker 21>teaching is something I've always done.

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<v Speaker 22>When I was in Louisville at OBEW when the big

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<v Speaker 22>flock of developmental guys came, I was kind of like

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<v Speaker 22>a player coach at the time, and I was doing

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<v Speaker 22>some teaching but wrestling a lot of the guys that

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<v Speaker 22>were there when Batista was there and Brock and Seen

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<v Speaker 22>in Victoria. You know, it's been a long time. And

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<v Speaker 22>then I was also a coach at the Formance Center

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<v Speaker 22>for a couple of years. So the teaching something that

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<v Speaker 22>I've always enjoyed. And I've always known that I wanted

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<v Speaker 22>to start my own wrestling company Territory, you know, just

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<v Speaker 22>because I find it interesting. And stoot Falls had zero

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<v Speaker 22>wrestling at the time, and you know, we've had a

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<v Speaker 22>monthly event for the past three years and kind of

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<v Speaker 22>given that section of the world, you know, their own

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<v Speaker 22>pro wrestling. So it's Midwest All Pro Wrestling m AP

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<v Speaker 22>where we're putting pre wrestling on the map. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 22>guess wrestled Jonathan Coachman on the twelfth.

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<v Speaker 7>We had a sup Fall street fight. We went and

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<v Speaker 7>took it in the street.

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<v Speaker 22>We rumbled up and down Lane Avenue there and we

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<v Speaker 22>were trying to create awareness for organ donation. Coach's father

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<v Speaker 22>recently received a life saving cart transplant, and he was

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<v Speaker 22>trying to encourage people to mark on their license to

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<v Speaker 22>become an organ donor, because you can save up to

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<v Speaker 22>eight lives with one donor, but then one donor can

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<v Speaker 22>also contribute something like seven seven thousand different donations.

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<v Speaker 7>From from one body. I don't understand the stats, but

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<v Speaker 7>that's what I've sold regardless.

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<v Speaker 22>We had big event in Sioux Falls and coach came

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<v Speaker 22>down and his dad was there, and it was it

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<v Speaker 22>was a good time, sold out, packed to the rafters,

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<v Speaker 22>turned away at the door.

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<v Speaker 3>There are how'd that come about bringing a Coachman in?

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<v Speaker 1>In terms of the logistics of that, it would seem

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<v Speaker 1>like getting him to South Dakota. It's for a good cause,

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<v Speaker 1>But as an Indian promoter trying to bring somebody to

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<v Speaker 1>that part of the country, that seems like a good achievements.

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<v Speaker 22>He's from the Kansas City so it wasn't too far away,

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<v Speaker 22>and his dad, I guess lived his sitting and they

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<v Speaker 22>drove up and then he flew out to h the

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<v Speaker 22>pay per views on on.

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<v Speaker 7>That Saturday, the Extreme Rules pay per view, whatever it was,

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<v Speaker 7>it was, it was his idea.

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<v Speaker 4>He wanted to do it.

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<v Speaker 22>You know, he's trying to contribute to his Saint Luke's

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<v Speaker 22>foundation because that was the for some people that let's

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<v Speaker 22>say someone in the family needs a heart transplant, the

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<v Speaker 22>family can't afford it, there's a foundation to try to

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<v Speaker 22>allegate some of the cost of it, and we're trying

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<v Speaker 22>to raise money for that. But as well as awareness

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<v Speaker 22>of the people become an organed downer.

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<v Speaker 3>Good that's a very good cause. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>places we can go, because you've been a lot of places.

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<v Speaker 1>But talk about some of the people that you have

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<v Speaker 1>worked with training who have gone on to become big,

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<v Speaker 1>big names that people know about. Like give us some

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<v Speaker 1>insight and some fun stories on a couple of people

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<v Speaker 1>early on who went on to be successful.

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<v Speaker 22>I can't tell all of them, but yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 22>like I said, when I was in Louisville, I had

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<v Speaker 22>about three or four his experience when they sent John

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<v Speaker 22>Cena there and Baptista and brock Lesner and a lot.

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<v Speaker 7>Of those guys came in with zero experience.

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<v Speaker 22>They Randy came in It had a few matches, but

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<v Speaker 22>he didn't know anybody, and he was he was kind

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<v Speaker 22>of in a particular shy, but not real shy, but

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<v Speaker 22>know anybody. And the first thing I did would just

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<v Speaker 22>start messing with him. In our first show, he was

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<v Speaker 22>going out his first match OVW and I kicked his

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<v Speaker 22>back leg and he tripped going through the curtain. But

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<v Speaker 22>it was like that the fact that I just joked

849
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:15.920
<v Speaker 22>with him, that he and I became really good friends,

850
00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:20.199
<v Speaker 22>and the scene and I used to ride together, who

851
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:24.480
<v Speaker 22>became real good buddies. That The only story I can

852
00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:26.119
<v Speaker 22>tell you is we were in Knoxville one night. We

853
00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:28.559
<v Speaker 22>bought a bunch of fireworks and I was hanging out

854
00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:31.519
<v Speaker 22>the car shooting bottle rockets down the street when you

855
00:43:31.559 --> 00:43:34.000
<v Speaker 22>really got arrested, but the champ champ talked to got

856
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:35.159
<v Speaker 22>to calling the police owners.

857
00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:39.119
<v Speaker 1>So that's just an amazing classic wrestlers at that time period,

858
00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:42.159
<v Speaker 1>and everybody went on to do great things. When you

859
00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:44.639
<v Speaker 1>saw when you see somebody like John Cena are there

860
00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:47.119
<v Speaker 1>like eight other guys who were as that you run into,

861
00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:51.159
<v Speaker 1>who are as determined and dedicated to becoming successful like

862
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:52.639
<v Speaker 1>he has, who just don't make it. Or was there

863
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:55.199
<v Speaker 1>something about Sena that even then you could see stood

864
00:43:55.280 --> 00:43:58.719
<v Speaker 1>out as this guy's got that something that's gonna make

865
00:43:58.760 --> 00:43:59.280
<v Speaker 1>him successful.

866
00:43:59.320 --> 00:44:02.119
<v Speaker 7>He leaves in bounds above everybody else. Like if you

867
00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:03.039
<v Speaker 7>look at him, there.

868
00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:06.119
<v Speaker 22>Might be other guys that look similar bodyboater, good, look athletic,

869
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:08.559
<v Speaker 22>all right, But then when you would just promo is

870
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:11.000
<v Speaker 22>his emotion? The stuff that he did, we used to

871
00:44:11.039 --> 00:44:13.280
<v Speaker 22>have like a kind of a drill, not a drill,

872
00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:15.000
<v Speaker 22>but like I would interview you and say, okay, you've

873
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:17.280
<v Speaker 22>got a match tonight with so and so go, And

874
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:19.239
<v Speaker 22>somebody tried to get him on like a you've got

875
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:21.840
<v Speaker 22>a Super Mario Kart match against the Pillsbury Double Boy.

876
00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:24.800
<v Speaker 22>You know, all these fictitious characters, and he cut a

877
00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:26.519
<v Speaker 22>promo on each one of them and just didn't miss

878
00:44:26.519 --> 00:44:27.800
<v Speaker 22>a beat. He can make you laugh, he can make

879
00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:30.679
<v Speaker 22>it you cry. And I think his his on screen

880
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:34.599
<v Speaker 22>character as wholesome John cena is Is is great, but

881
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:37.760
<v Speaker 22>it's it's also you know, not his full range, because

882
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:38.800
<v Speaker 22>he's very talented.

883
00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:42.039
<v Speaker 3>And then how about brock Lesser.

884
00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:44.800
<v Speaker 22>Brock was always nice. He was a you know, Midwestern guy,

885
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:48.079
<v Speaker 22>and I don't I don't know that he liked a

886
00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:49.920
<v Speaker 22>lot of the crowd, like at least people coming up

887
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:51.639
<v Speaker 22>to him. I'm not really sure. Yeah, but I remember

888
00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:54.400
<v Speaker 22>he met my wife and my wife's in the Midwest,

889
00:44:54.440 --> 00:44:57.400
<v Speaker 22>and they immediately connected on Midwestern living and whatnot. And

890
00:44:57.440 --> 00:44:59.159
<v Speaker 22>then when I saw him the wrestling in thirty right

891
00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:01.559
<v Speaker 22>before the wrestle undertake, as a person asked me, you're

892
00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:03.679
<v Speaker 22>still with the girl from Laverne. Yeah, yeah, we got married.

893
00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:06.199
<v Speaker 22>So he was always super nice and me he was

894
00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:07.880
<v Speaker 22>the first one to be at the arena. He'd drive

895
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:09.679
<v Speaker 22>the ring, set up the ring, take down the ring,

896
00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:17.800
<v Speaker 22>the last guy there, and I'm just super super nice.

897
00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:21.760
<v Speaker 23>I'm Kelly Wells, host of the seven Star podcast, the

898
00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:24.719
<v Speaker 23>new Ongoing Torch show covering the world of New Japan

899
00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:28.159
<v Speaker 23>pro wrestling. We'll drop new episodes as major shows and

900
00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:30.400
<v Speaker 23>noteworthy events dictate.

901
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:32.280
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902
00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:34.840
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903
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:37.440
<v Speaker 14>New Japan as they navigate an era with no lack

904
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:37.880
<v Speaker 14>of talent.

905
00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:40.440
<v Speaker 6>But I really need to create some new styles.

906
00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:43.280
<v Speaker 21>You can stream the new seven Stop podcast now from

907
00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:44.280
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908
00:45:56.880 --> 00:45:59.320
<v Speaker 1>And when you did you think there was something about

909
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:03.000
<v Speaker 1>that he was also special like John Cena where or

910
00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:05.119
<v Speaker 1>did you see some of the trepidation to be that

911
00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:07.079
<v Speaker 1>kind of public figure where you thought maybe this won't

912
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:07.480
<v Speaker 1>work up.

913
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:09.199
<v Speaker 22>No, I didn't think it wouldn't work out because he

914
00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:12.360
<v Speaker 22>was a national champion amateur wrestler, and just something about

915
00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:14.480
<v Speaker 22>him is just magnetism. But you see people like like

916
00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:16.159
<v Speaker 22>that walk in the airport or down the street, it's

917
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:17.559
<v Speaker 22>just immediately like I don't know who this is, but

918
00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:20.400
<v Speaker 22>something about me is attractive. Team the Rock is like

919
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:22.880
<v Speaker 22>that a million fold. I mean, I mean a little

920
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:25.719
<v Speaker 22>bit with him that made my career, and it was like,

921
00:46:25.719 --> 00:46:28.519
<v Speaker 22>you know, just something about you know, I'm not attracted, man,

922
00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:30.760
<v Speaker 22>but that goddamn guy's attracted. Just about him is like,

923
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:32.400
<v Speaker 22>you know, just I just want to look at him.

924
00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:34.880
<v Speaker 22>I don't know, It's just something that's unexplainable.

925
00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:38.159
<v Speaker 3>And it was pretty cool about Da Batista.

926
00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:40.920
<v Speaker 1>He was in that class of people who when Brock left,

927
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:44.159
<v Speaker 1>he took off and kind of got the push that

928
00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:47.000
<v Speaker 1>that that opening that when Brock left was left open

929
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:49.280
<v Speaker 1>and went on to have a great career. Where was

930
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:51.800
<v Speaker 1>he relative to Brock and Sena athletically in terms of

931
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:55.599
<v Speaker 1>his his enthusiasm and attitude and all of that, Yeah,

932
00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:56.880
<v Speaker 1>we need it working.

933
00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:02.400
<v Speaker 22>Dave was really cool, but he uh, he didn't he

934
00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:04.559
<v Speaker 22>didn't have a wide range of offense, which was fine

935
00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:05.039
<v Speaker 22>because what.

936
00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:07.480
<v Speaker 7>He did worked. But I remember at a certain point.

937
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:08.960
<v Speaker 22>When he was Leviath and his wife then started to

938
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:11.199
<v Speaker 22>get over and people started and Louisville started like Leviath,

939
00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:13.000
<v Speaker 22>and so I would take him down and put him

940
00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:14.480
<v Speaker 22>in a hole and wait for the people get behind him.

941
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:15.960
<v Speaker 22>And then he get upset because he's suposed to heal,

942
00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:18.119
<v Speaker 22>and he's like, you can turn me, baby face. He

943
00:47:18.159 --> 00:47:20.559
<v Speaker 22>can panic and fluster. And I just laughed, you know,

944
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:23.079
<v Speaker 22>But like, uh, there's so many big guys that came through,

945
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:26.199
<v Speaker 22>Like Nathan Jones came through there, Yeah, and just he

946
00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:29.360
<v Speaker 22>wasn't reckless, but he was just so big and so powerful.

947
00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:31.239
<v Speaker 22>And I was, you know, two hundred and twenty pounds

948
00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:33.000
<v Speaker 22>and I'm supposed to be leading him and he's thrown

949
00:47:33.039 --> 00:47:36.480
<v Speaker 22>me around the ring. All those guys were there was

950
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:38.480
<v Speaker 22>a big group that got hired at the same time.

951
00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:44.880
<v Speaker 22>But those guys seeing up Rock Randy Bautista were just

952
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:48.639
<v Speaker 22>something that was much more appealing about them because there

953
00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:53.000
<v Speaker 22>was you know, threefold that many guys that they were there.

954
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:55.679
<v Speaker 1>But back then, would you have picked out one or

955
00:47:55.679 --> 00:47:58.679
<v Speaker 1>two others who you thought would have equally good chance

956
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:01.599
<v Speaker 1>of those four or didn't for when you look back

957
00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:02.679
<v Speaker 1>stand out as I could have.

958
00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:04.079
<v Speaker 3>Told you then these are the four are gonna make it?

959
00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:04.719
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think so.

960
00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:07.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you can tell early sometimes.

961
00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:08.440
<v Speaker 7>I mean sometimes sometimes you can.

962
00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:10.840
<v Speaker 22>Then there were guys that you might thought they could

963
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:13.760
<v Speaker 22>have used, but maybe just one thing happened, you know,

964
00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:14.960
<v Speaker 22>in their life that you know.

965
00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:19.320
<v Speaker 1>What's what's one of the keys for young wrestlers who

966
00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:21.760
<v Speaker 1>want who want to make it on a in a

967
00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:24.039
<v Speaker 1>big scale. Obviously, if you don't have that, in fact

968
00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:26.320
<v Speaker 1>that you talked about Rock having, you can't invent that.

969
00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:28.440
<v Speaker 3>But what what's something.

970
00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:30.119
<v Speaker 1>In terms of attitude, in terms of approach to the

971
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:33.800
<v Speaker 1>business that is in someone's control that you just wish

972
00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:35.840
<v Speaker 1>you could gift Everybody who has that desire.

973
00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:37.760
<v Speaker 7>Just have to immerse themselves in it completely.

974
00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:40.440
<v Speaker 22>I mean, it's difficult to have other responsibilities in life

975
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:43.119
<v Speaker 22>and then try to make it to the top level.

976
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:45.960
<v Speaker 22>It's it's very difficult to and I see some guys

977
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:48.519
<v Speaker 22>try and it's it's very it's spread their time back

978
00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:50.079
<v Speaker 22>and forth with the guys that can really just jump

979
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:52.159
<v Speaker 22>in with both feet and if they have to relocate

980
00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:53.920
<v Speaker 22>and go somewhere and move somewhere, or just you know, hey,

981
00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:55.639
<v Speaker 22>I'm gonna go get out of the country and just

982
00:48:55.639 --> 00:48:57.000
<v Speaker 22>just go wherever it takes me and just try to

983
00:48:57.000 --> 00:49:00.199
<v Speaker 22>immerse themselves fully in it and then try to nine

984
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:03.239
<v Speaker 22>people that have credibility, have done things, have been places

985
00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:06.280
<v Speaker 22>to draw off of and create connections with people that

986
00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:08.800
<v Speaker 22>have connections and try to keep in.

987
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:13.159
<v Speaker 21>Touch with those there. Are there more opportunities now or less?

988
00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:15.239
<v Speaker 21>Or is the market opening up or not?

989
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:16.360
<v Speaker 7>Or I don't know.

990
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:17.840
<v Speaker 6>Can of the business you think?

991
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:20.159
<v Speaker 22>You know, years ago it was difficult to get in,

992
00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:21.360
<v Speaker 22>but once you got in, there's a lot of places

993
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:23.159
<v Speaker 22>to work and if you were halfway decent, you know,

994
00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:24.440
<v Speaker 22>other promoters could send you around.

995
00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:26.239
<v Speaker 7>But now it's it's not so much like that. It's

996
00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:27.800
<v Speaker 7>easy to get in, but there's no money.

997
00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:30.159
<v Speaker 22>It's it's like there's a base level of INDI's and

998
00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:33.480
<v Speaker 22>then there's a big step if you can get over overseas.

999
00:49:33.039 --> 00:49:34.880
<v Speaker 21>Or get starting to change or it's still common.

1000
00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:37.199
<v Speaker 22>But I mean with with with with the AW expanding

1001
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:38.719
<v Speaker 22>and I mean times they're changing.

1002
00:49:38.800 --> 00:49:39.639
<v Speaker 7>You know, it could be.

1003
00:49:41.559 --> 00:49:43.880
<v Speaker 21>It just seems like w W has more wrestlers on

1004
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:47.159
<v Speaker 21>their contract and the aw's getting wrestlers on the contract.

1005
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:49.119
<v Speaker 22>Course we look like we got three shows with the

1006
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:51.840
<v Speaker 22>next team and that they had whatever the relationship is

1007
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:54.159
<v Speaker 22>with Evolver, you know, and just the more they keep

1008
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:56.480
<v Speaker 22>adding and you know, with the network, they're probably gonna

1009
00:49:56.519 --> 00:49:59.360
<v Speaker 22>have shows about people that just come into the performance

1010
00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:02.840
<v Speaker 22>center and in that situation in a reality style, and

1011
00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:05.679
<v Speaker 22>then once they start having matches, then the next tier

1012
00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:07.599
<v Speaker 22>of guys at the performance center, and then the NXT

1013
00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:09.719
<v Speaker 22>show or whatever it is, and then they have the

1014
00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:14.559
<v Speaker 22>ability to have I pitched a music video show with

1015
00:50:14.679 --> 00:50:16.480
<v Speaker 22>wrestling videos, with all the videos they've ever made.

1016
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:18.599
<v Speaker 7>Music video show didn't bite on it.

1017
00:50:20.920 --> 00:50:25.320
<v Speaker 21>Can you talk about talking about the developmental system training

1018
00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:29.360
<v Speaker 21>wrestlers back in the WW days and now you got

1019
00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:32.559
<v Speaker 21>your in school and then of course an XT, like

1020
00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:36.679
<v Speaker 21>the difference is now how that's really become more of

1021
00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:37.360
<v Speaker 21>an industry.

1022
00:50:38.280 --> 00:50:38.639
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

1023
00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:40.920
<v Speaker 22>Krang was the first developmental guy, but he was when

1024
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:42.760
<v Speaker 22>they sent him to Memphis, and there were other guys

1025
00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:45.000
<v Speaker 22>at the time, but basically what that was then was

1026
00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:47.920
<v Speaker 22>independent companies training w's future talent.

1027
00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:49.800
<v Speaker 7>And this is what I've.

1028
00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:52.679
<v Speaker 22>Heard when Tah went from just on screen talent and

1029
00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:55.519
<v Speaker 22>more in the office, NC sent him around to every

1030
00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:57.920
<v Speaker 22>department in b and just get a feel for it

1031
00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:00.079
<v Speaker 22>and think for two weeks and then come back and

1032
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:03.000
<v Speaker 22>report on me. So he went to marketing and pay

1033
00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:04.880
<v Speaker 22>per views and whatever it is, and then he went

1034
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:06.960
<v Speaker 22>down to FCW and it wasn't knock on FCW, but

1035
00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:10.400
<v Speaker 22>FCW is an indie company training w W talent and

1036
00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:15.079
<v Speaker 22>hunters like that's not that's not the w W class,

1037
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:17.880
<v Speaker 22>you know, level of excellence, and so Vince goes, okay,

1038
00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:21.119
<v Speaker 22>well then you'll be in charge of that. That's when

1039
00:51:21.119 --> 00:51:22.599
<v Speaker 22>he went to the New York Giants training Center and

1040
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:24.400
<v Speaker 22>kind of said, okay, the best athletes in the in

1041
00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:25.199
<v Speaker 22>the world, what what what?

1042
00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:25.920
<v Speaker 7>What do they work with?

1043
00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:27.320
<v Speaker 22>And that's what he kind of looked around, said Okay,

1044
00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:29.280
<v Speaker 22>this is what we need, and that Performance Centers is

1045
00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:31.960
<v Speaker 22>a beautiful building, like there's there's no reason that somebody

1046
00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:33.239
<v Speaker 22>that goes down there should not succeed.

1047
00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Do you when you have students that you're training, do

1048
00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:38.960
<v Speaker 1>you have your eye on like I can recommend them

1049
00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:42.719
<v Speaker 1>to Hunter, to WWE and and kind of what is

1050
00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:45.119
<v Speaker 1>your criteria for wanting to put your reputation on the

1051
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:47.519
<v Speaker 1>line to make that phone call or send that email

1052
00:51:47.559 --> 00:51:49.679
<v Speaker 1>saying hey, here's somebody you should look at it.

1053
00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:50.480
<v Speaker 7>It's a lot of things.

1054
00:51:50.519 --> 00:51:50.679
<v Speaker 24>You know.

1055
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:54.320
<v Speaker 22>It's because WW has always been a big man business,

1056
00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:58.840
<v Speaker 22>but a someone that's an entertainer can also get in there.

1057
00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:01.880
<v Speaker 22>So if someone has that one little thing that's very

1058
00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:05.960
<v Speaker 22>popular or very entertaining or very attractive, you know, they

1059
00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:06.880
<v Speaker 22>might have what it takes.

1060
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:09.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you gotta be careful. How many guys you recommend? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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00:52:12.239 --> 00:52:14.800
<v Speaker 21>Talk about your own career. You worked with everybody like

1063
00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:17.039
<v Speaker 21>you worked with the top guys on the top and.

1064
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:19.119
<v Speaker 22>Been ring with the rock Ben, ring with Colvin Pain,

1065
00:52:19.239 --> 00:52:21.440
<v Speaker 22>Vince McMahon, that know what I mean, Like the best

1066
00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:22.679
<v Speaker 22>day of my life was a damn.

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00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:23.039
<v Speaker 3>That my life.

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00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:30.440
<v Speaker 21>Hey, you talked a little about you get hurt.

1069
00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:33.599
<v Speaker 7>I had to drag her down.

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00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:37.199
<v Speaker 21>He talked a little about about working with brock Lester,

1071
00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:39.480
<v Speaker 21>about about how charismatic he was and how it helped

1072
00:52:39.480 --> 00:52:43.519
<v Speaker 21>your career talked about him, or you worked with didn't work,

1073
00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:44.679
<v Speaker 21>you worked a shame man.

1074
00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:49.000
<v Speaker 22>And I wrestled Vincent Chain does Sioux City and they

1075
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:51.559
<v Speaker 22>poured green paint on my head and I sat there

1076
00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:53.320
<v Speaker 22>for three hours with green paint standing in my head

1077
00:52:53.320 --> 00:52:54.480
<v Speaker 22>and they put my head in a toilet.

1078
00:52:55.639 --> 00:52:56.000
<v Speaker 7>Toilet.

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00:52:56.119 --> 00:52:58.719
<v Speaker 21>Yeah, what's it like working for that level of I

1080
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:01.159
<v Speaker 21>mean we all have that. You know the boss and

1081
00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:03.119
<v Speaker 21>then there's the boss and when they come we've had

1082
00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:06.239
<v Speaker 21>those experiences. Is like, that's but but that just seems

1083
00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:09.639
<v Speaker 21>like ituld be a completely different dimension of I.

1084
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:10.920
<v Speaker 7>Can't remember what were you do?

1085
00:53:11.079 --> 00:53:12.719
<v Speaker 22>Was in the ring with Vince something and there's a

1086
00:53:12.760 --> 00:53:14.599
<v Speaker 22>promo in the ring live on TV and for some reason,

1087
00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:16.960
<v Speaker 22>I just write him kissed him on the cheek and

1088
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:17.400
<v Speaker 22>no reason.

1089
00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:18.840
<v Speaker 7>I had no idea why, and I didn't know him

1090
00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:19.159
<v Speaker 7>that well.

1091
00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:21.320
<v Speaker 22>When when when he got when he got injured at

1092
00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:23.079
<v Speaker 22>the one Row rumble, when he heard both his knees,

1093
00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:24.199
<v Speaker 22>he was in Birmingham.

1094
00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:25.480
<v Speaker 7>That's the same time I had Mandred. I was in

1095
00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:26.800
<v Speaker 7>Birmingham and I didn't.

1096
00:53:26.599 --> 00:53:28.559
<v Speaker 22>Tell him, but I snuck into his hospital room and

1097
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:30.360
<v Speaker 22>just like peecked my head in there and he was

1098
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:32.599
<v Speaker 22>like it wasn't clean shaven. I could tell you started

1099
00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:34.159
<v Speaker 22>getting nervous and just say, hey, I'm in town. If

1100
00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:35.679
<v Speaker 22>you need anything, tell somebody, get a hold of me.

1101
00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:37.480
<v Speaker 22>And I was too nervous, And I wish I would

1102
00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:38.599
<v Speaker 22>have sat there because he wasn't gonna go to go

1103
00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:40.960
<v Speaker 22>anywhere with both his knees prepared and just talked to him.

1104
00:53:41.000 --> 00:53:43.480
<v Speaker 22>But it's probably the biggest regret I have that I

1105
00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:45.519
<v Speaker 22>just didn't sit there and just poke at him.

1106
00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:49.239
<v Speaker 7>And you can talk. I was nervous, yeah, shying, but

1107
00:53:49.400 --> 00:53:49.880
<v Speaker 7>having that.

1108
00:53:49.880 --> 00:53:52.519
<v Speaker 21>Spotlight and then doing the things the way they wanted

1109
00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:54.039
<v Speaker 21>to have done and the way you wanted them done too.

1110
00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:57.199
<v Speaker 21>I mean that's and and and getting through that. That's

1111
00:53:57.239 --> 00:53:59.559
<v Speaker 21>when you team with Flair too, right, Yes, on a

1112
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:04.079
<v Speaker 21>paper view, Yes, so just some experiences with him.

1113
00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:07.519
<v Speaker 22>Flair wanted to do a bit where he introduced Hugene

1114
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:09.119
<v Speaker 22>to maybe some Ladies of.

1115
00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:09.960
<v Speaker 7>The Ninth or whatnot.

1116
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:13.719
<v Speaker 3>And I can only see the camera off.

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00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:17.000
<v Speaker 22>I can almost see like like the big bed and

1118
00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:19.199
<v Speaker 22>the Flair and the girls and Eugene and.

1119
00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:19.880
<v Speaker 7>Like the pipe.

1120
00:54:19.880 --> 00:54:21.559
<v Speaker 22>But I would have like the pipe of blows the bubbles,

1121
00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:26.840
<v Speaker 22>you know, but that get shot down.

1122
00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:30.480
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<v Speaker 21>Let's talk about the character of Eugene. I know you

1136
00:55:11.199 --> 00:55:13.599
<v Speaker 21>talk to us a couple of years ago here in

1137
00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:17.159
<v Speaker 21>Waterloo about the whole that there was a whole plan

1138
00:55:18.039 --> 00:55:19.880
<v Speaker 21>for Eugene, or at least I've heard this that there

1139
00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:21.800
<v Speaker 21>was a whole plan for Eugene. It went beyond just

1140
00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:25.039
<v Speaker 21>the character that some things are going to be revealed

1141
00:55:25.079 --> 00:55:25.519
<v Speaker 21>in the end.

1142
00:55:25.559 --> 00:55:28.599
<v Speaker 22>But can it's that or did I hear that from

1143
00:55:28.599 --> 00:55:32.239
<v Speaker 22>I don't remember I couldn't think I don't know, yah me.

1144
00:55:32.239 --> 00:55:35.519
<v Speaker 1>Talk about the origination and the progression you could take it.

1145
00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:38.280
<v Speaker 22>I was trained by not Mary Danny Davison ovw but

1146
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:41.119
<v Speaker 22>also Hustle Rip Rogers, Rip Rogers. Soon his autism, so

1147
00:55:41.199 --> 00:55:42.920
<v Speaker 22>ripped him to me one day and said, I've got

1148
00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:44.119
<v Speaker 22>an idea for a character.

1149
00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:45.079
<v Speaker 7>That, you know, kind of like rain Man.

1150
00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:47.199
<v Speaker 22>You can't you know, not very social and can't tie

1151
00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:48.960
<v Speaker 22>his booze, can't put a square paint in a square hole,

1152
00:55:48.960 --> 00:55:52.039
<v Speaker 22>but the minute the bell rings, he can do wrestling flawlessly.

1153
00:55:52.039 --> 00:55:54.119
<v Speaker 22>Because at that point I was mister Wrestling Nick Dinsmore,

1154
00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:55.800
<v Speaker 22>and I could wrestle an hour Broadway and not use

1155
00:55:55.840 --> 00:55:58.920
<v Speaker 22>the same multiwise whatever. The wrestling was easy, and I

1156
00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:01.239
<v Speaker 22>was getting to a point where I was not getting frustrated,

1157
00:56:01.239 --> 00:56:03.519
<v Speaker 22>but just I wasn't challenged. So I was doing comedy

1158
00:56:03.559 --> 00:56:05.920
<v Speaker 22>in my match, just to entertain myself and entertain the fans.

1159
00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:09.360
<v Speaker 22>And I pitched that to all the agents for like

1160
00:56:09.559 --> 00:56:11.760
<v Speaker 22>RN and Fit and Dean, and they're like, well, wrestling's

1161
00:56:11.800 --> 00:56:13.480
<v Speaker 22>kind of gonna beyond that. We don't do that anymore.

1162
00:56:13.800 --> 00:56:16.760
<v Speaker 22>This is probably two thousand and four, two thousand and three.

1163
00:56:16.800 --> 00:56:17.320
<v Speaker 7>Thousand and four.

1164
00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:20.159
<v Speaker 22>Okay, so then all the writers come down pitched all them.

1165
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:23.079
<v Speaker 22>I don't think we would do that, So I told

1166
00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:25.800
<v Speaker 22>somebody this earlier. I would see the guys that would

1167
00:56:26.280 --> 00:56:28.400
<v Speaker 22>not complain, but the squeaky will gets the oil. So

1168
00:56:28.440 --> 00:56:31.119
<v Speaker 22>I'd see some of the talent that might voice their opinions,

1169
00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:32.559
<v Speaker 22>and all of a sudden they'd end up on TV.

1170
00:56:33.119 --> 00:56:35.440
<v Speaker 22>And I was never one to complain or squawk. But

1171
00:56:35.480 --> 00:56:37.199
<v Speaker 22>then I said, I told Doug Bashem, I said, I

1172
00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:39.320
<v Speaker 22>think I'm gonna quit and try to go Japan, which

1173
00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:41.199
<v Speaker 22>I wasn't going to because I was living at home

1174
00:56:41.519 --> 00:56:45.199
<v Speaker 22>in my home, top dog in the territory, working four

1175
00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:47.280
<v Speaker 22>hours a day wrestling, so I wasn't but I wanted

1176
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:48.119
<v Speaker 22>to see what would happened.

1177
00:56:48.639 --> 00:56:50.840
<v Speaker 7>Doug Bashom told dem Malinko Dean told Johnny eight.

1178
00:56:50.920 --> 00:56:52.199
<v Speaker 22>Next thing I know, I'm sitting in a meeting with

1179
00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:55.119
<v Speaker 22>Vince mcman and Stephanie was there, and Vince.

1180
00:56:54.880 --> 00:56:57.079
<v Speaker 7>Goes, I want to get back to character based wrestling.

1181
00:56:57.360 --> 00:56:59.199
<v Speaker 22>So I just thought, this idea, what about this character

1182
00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:00.840
<v Speaker 22>raymonn blah blahlah blah blah.

1183
00:57:00.880 --> 00:57:04.360
<v Speaker 7>Great, we'll start on Monday. I had no idea that,

1184
00:57:04.400 --> 00:57:05.800
<v Speaker 7>but I didn't know who the character was. I just

1185
00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:07.599
<v Speaker 7>it was just an idea.

1186
00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:11.079
<v Speaker 22>Steve Aouston walks in and uh, Steve Boston worked with

1187
00:57:11.119 --> 00:57:14.800
<v Speaker 22>Danny Davis and a Global and this was especial seen

1188
00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:16.559
<v Speaker 22>the kid wrestled no so with Danny and his training,

1189
00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:17.559
<v Speaker 22>and Steve goes.

1190
00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:19.199
<v Speaker 7>Well, you're probably one of the best.

1191
00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:21.000
<v Speaker 22>And it was just that photo confidence, like not seeing

1192
00:57:21.039 --> 00:57:25.079
<v Speaker 22>me wrestles like wow. And they filmed some vignettes for Eugene,

1193
00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:27.000
<v Speaker 22>but they really didn't like it, so they just it

1194
00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:27.599
<v Speaker 22>was Houston.

1195
00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:28.719
<v Speaker 7>I remember the day.

1196
00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:31.960
<v Speaker 22>It's sometime in May in two thousand and four, and

1197
00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:33.840
<v Speaker 22>then I just kept catching on and kept doing well.

1198
00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:35.880
<v Speaker 22>It was something different at that time. I felt like

1199
00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:39.280
<v Speaker 22>it was post nWo, post Steve Boston, but everybody still

1200
00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:41.480
<v Speaker 22>want to be cool, strong, heel and not sell and

1201
00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:42.000
<v Speaker 22>I wanted.

1202
00:57:41.800 --> 00:57:42.599
<v Speaker 7>To do complete opposite.

1203
00:57:42.639 --> 00:57:45.400
<v Speaker 22>I wanted to be sympathetic, comedy, babyface to a midget

1204
00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:46.000
<v Speaker 22>high spots.

1205
00:57:46.239 --> 00:57:48.119
<v Speaker 7>The only kid's character was Hurricane, but he was gonna

1206
00:57:48.119 --> 00:57:48.599
<v Speaker 7>smack down.

1207
00:57:48.639 --> 00:57:51.519
<v Speaker 22>So I knew that there was one one demographic that

1208
00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:54.599
<v Speaker 22>wasn't being filled and Brian Gerwitz could write for it,

1209
00:57:54.760 --> 00:57:57.000
<v Speaker 22>and and that's what took it off right there. The

1210
00:57:57.039 --> 00:57:58.920
<v Speaker 22>movie The Big Show did. Is that we're talking about

1211
00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:01.719
<v Speaker 22>The Big Show movie. No what what I heard and

1212
00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:04.360
<v Speaker 22>I was trying to remember it. It may have done.

1213
00:58:05.079 --> 00:58:07.320
<v Speaker 21>Nothing to it, but it was that at the end

1214
00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:10.480
<v Speaker 21>of your character are that it'd be revealed that you

1215
00:58:10.559 --> 00:58:12.159
<v Speaker 21>were actually an evil genius.

1216
00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:14.119
<v Speaker 7>I think I think we went too far, but then

1217
00:58:14.119 --> 00:58:14.639
<v Speaker 7>we went too long.

1218
00:58:14.679 --> 00:58:16.360
<v Speaker 22>I think if it would have at the peak have

1219
00:58:16.440 --> 00:58:18.360
<v Speaker 22>been over if they would have done it then, but

1220
00:58:18.440 --> 00:58:20.519
<v Speaker 22>then I don't know that it would have been as

1221
00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:23.360
<v Speaker 22>good as as they would. I had to put me

1222
00:58:23.400 --> 00:58:24.880
<v Speaker 22>at the top heel and it probably would have been

1223
00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:27.480
<v Speaker 22>done and I would have been It couldn't be halfway.

1224
00:58:27.559 --> 00:58:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're right, Yeah, there's you have like a story.

1225
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I can think, well, this would be the reveal and

1226
00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:32.320
<v Speaker 1>then I'll shift into.

1227
00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:32.760
<v Speaker 3>That long term.

1228
00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:35.519
<v Speaker 1>But the initial character worked so well, yeah, that you

1229
00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:37.559
<v Speaker 1>just rolled with it, and then it also became too late.

1230
00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:40.480
<v Speaker 22>Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I don't know. I mean

1231
00:58:40.480 --> 00:58:42.400
<v Speaker 22>that that was like early on. I think some people

1232
00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:44.679
<v Speaker 22>thought that, but again I don't I don't think it

1233
00:58:44.679 --> 00:58:45.320
<v Speaker 22>would have been good.

1234
00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:47.880
<v Speaker 1>How was a fan interaction when you were playing that role,

1235
00:58:48.159 --> 00:58:51.639
<v Speaker 1>when you're outside the ring, people coming up to you,

1236
00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:53.400
<v Speaker 1>how did they react to you, and how did they

1237
00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:55.679
<v Speaker 1>react to the character, and did they differentiate when you

1238
00:58:55.679 --> 00:58:57.880
<v Speaker 1>would interact with people outside and just the public.

1239
00:58:57.960 --> 00:58:59.679
<v Speaker 22>No, everybody that I spoke to, everybody that I met,

1240
00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:06.119
<v Speaker 22>everybody that I that I shook hands with, joint yes, please, yeah, yeah.

1241
00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:22.559
<v Speaker 11>You're still doing your sure there, sit here.

1242
00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:26.599
<v Speaker 7>In the middle, okay, all right, so sit down till

1243
00:59:26.639 --> 00:59:27.360
<v Speaker 7>you say at ease.

1244
00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:33.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's your words.

1245
00:59:35.960 --> 00:59:40.519
<v Speaker 22>Had the interaction so everybody that nobody had uh, everybody

1246
00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:44.239
<v Speaker 22>loved Eugene. And so often I would get like, my

1247
00:59:44.280 --> 00:59:47.679
<v Speaker 22>brother has special needs and you playing Eugene gave him

1248
00:59:47.679 --> 00:59:49.800
<v Speaker 22>so much inspiration. I can't tell you how many people

1249
00:59:49.880 --> 00:59:52.360
<v Speaker 22>came to me with like positive affirmation that what I

1250
00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:54.679
<v Speaker 22>was doing was right. I think when they first started

1251
00:59:54.719 --> 00:59:58.719
<v Speaker 22>doing the character, some big radio stations kind of didn't.

1252
00:59:58.440 --> 01:00:00.440
<v Speaker 7>Know which way the he was gonna go with the character.

1253
01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:03.360
<v Speaker 22>But once it became an underdog story of somebody trying

1254
01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:05.639
<v Speaker 22>to achieve it was it was everybody loved him.

1255
01:00:05.639 --> 01:00:06.920
<v Speaker 7>Once once the first time I had a match and

1256
01:00:06.960 --> 01:00:08.800
<v Speaker 7>I won, That was it the interest of the story.

1257
01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:10.800
<v Speaker 22>But if they would have made fun of Eugene and

1258
01:00:10.840 --> 01:00:12.679
<v Speaker 22>not really let him do anything, it wouldn't have worked,

1259
01:00:12.679 --> 01:00:15.920
<v Speaker 22>but the writers that wrote it beautifully awesome.

1260
01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Does anyone have a question for Nick before?

1261
01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:19.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

1262
01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:22.440
<v Speaker 8>But do you have any memorable rib stories?

1263
01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:24.639
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

1264
01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:25.599
<v Speaker 7>None that are too good?

1265
01:00:25.599 --> 01:00:25.960
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

1266
01:00:26.800 --> 01:00:28.079
<v Speaker 7>I used to take a Matt striker.

1267
01:00:28.119 --> 01:00:31.440
<v Speaker 22>I would always lock his bag in a locker or

1268
01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:33.679
<v Speaker 22>lock his bag to a locker, so you get mad

1269
01:00:33.679 --> 01:00:35.199
<v Speaker 22>and then you have to go find the janitor whatever,

1270
01:00:35.199 --> 01:00:37.800
<v Speaker 22>be run and get the pictures where And he'd come

1271
01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:39.880
<v Speaker 22>back and I were taking it off.

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<v Speaker 11>You go back?

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01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:41.480
<v Speaker 7>Can you come back?

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01:00:41.480 --> 01:00:42.039
<v Speaker 11>And you back on?

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01:00:43.119 --> 01:00:45.079
<v Speaker 7>You know, but he was kind of kind of green,

1276
01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:46.639
<v Speaker 7>so he didn't want to complain. He didn't know who

1277
01:00:46.719 --> 01:00:48.119
<v Speaker 7>was doing it. And I'd just sit back and watch

1278
01:00:48.199 --> 01:00:49.719
<v Speaker 7>him the whole time and take him off, take him on.

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<v Speaker 15>Good.

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01:00:53.199 --> 01:00:53.440
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:56.760
<v Speaker 25>I'm a little curious if you mentioned Danny Davis and

1282
01:00:56.800 --> 01:00:59.840
<v Speaker 25>there was a real brain trust the v W. As

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01:00:59.840 --> 01:01:05.400
<v Speaker 25>you teach, what do you reflect back on the lessons

1284
01:01:05.440 --> 01:01:07.679
<v Speaker 25>as you are learning that you feel are the most

1285
01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:10.159
<v Speaker 25>important to convey to your students.

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01:01:10.360 --> 01:01:13.239
<v Speaker 22>I don't feel like like like Danny tell us a

1287
01:01:13.280 --> 01:01:15.920
<v Speaker 22>lot safety and basics and you know, being able to

1288
01:01:16.360 --> 01:01:18.119
<v Speaker 22>I don't have to be strong. I have to look strong,

1289
01:01:18.159 --> 01:01:19.119
<v Speaker 22>but I don't have to be strong, but I have

1290
01:01:19.159 --> 01:01:20.920
<v Speaker 22>to position my body correctly so I take care of

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01:01:20.960 --> 01:01:23.519
<v Speaker 22>myself and the guy that I'm working with, and just

1292
01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:27.760
<v Speaker 22>sound fundamental basics and being able to do just enough

1293
01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:29.960
<v Speaker 22>restling that you can wrestle with anybody and you don't

1294
01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:31.360
<v Speaker 22>have to do a whole lot of stuff if you

1295
01:01:31.400 --> 01:01:33.199
<v Speaker 22>can this great, but being able to do the sound

1296
01:01:33.239 --> 01:01:34.880
<v Speaker 22>basics and I hurt yourself and that trip over your

1297
01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:38.880
<v Speaker 22>own feet, have enough cardio, enough core, strength of balance, strength,

1298
01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:42.039
<v Speaker 22>and then getting into being aware of where the ropes are,

1299
01:01:42.039 --> 01:01:43.599
<v Speaker 22>where the referee is, where the manager is, where the

1300
01:01:43.639 --> 01:01:45.199
<v Speaker 22>partners are, how much time we got left with the king,

1301
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:53.320
<v Speaker 22>you know, and everything else. Yes, Mulla, this character from

1302
01:01:53.320 --> 01:01:57.199
<v Speaker 22>that young man. The name I pitched the idea for

1303
01:01:57.239 --> 01:01:59.320
<v Speaker 22>the character. But there was a young man in Pittsburgh

1304
01:01:59.320 --> 01:02:01.320
<v Speaker 22>and I was might to love. His name was Eugene,

1305
01:02:01.400 --> 01:02:03.159
<v Speaker 22>and he wud come to the matches. I've been him

1306
01:02:03.159 --> 01:02:03.920
<v Speaker 22>a handful of times.

1307
01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:10.400
<v Speaker 26>Father was a brock forree put up the rings and uh.

1308
01:02:10.519 --> 01:02:13.840
<v Speaker 26>He always brought Eugene into the matches and he just

1309
01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:16.559
<v Speaker 26>loved everybody, and everybody loved to him.

1310
01:02:17.360 --> 01:02:20.039
<v Speaker 7>And I see so much in that in the character

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01:02:20.960 --> 01:02:21.760
<v Speaker 7>that you portrayed.

1312
01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:25.000
<v Speaker 6>I know we had another hand up.

1313
01:02:25.079 --> 01:02:27.760
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, talkings loves against as we don't.

1314
01:02:27.639 --> 01:02:31.039
<v Speaker 24>Have Mike's talk about team with Rob Conway as.

1315
01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:32.719
<v Speaker 6>Lords of the Ring and Ober.

1316
01:02:33.119 --> 01:02:35.280
<v Speaker 22>Yeah, we we both started wrestling about the same time

1317
01:02:35.320 --> 01:02:38.519
<v Speaker 22>in nineteen ninety six when OBW was just the Danny

1318
01:02:38.599 --> 01:02:42.079
<v Speaker 22>Davis School wrestling, and then when the developmental system came

1319
01:02:42.119 --> 01:02:44.760
<v Speaker 22>in and when I started writing the TV. So he

1320
01:02:45.039 --> 01:02:47.559
<v Speaker 22>carried us on and I don't know, it just would

1321
01:02:47.559 --> 01:02:49.920
<v Speaker 22>be attacked for a long time, and uh, he's probably

1322
01:02:49.960 --> 01:02:53.280
<v Speaker 22>you know, and i'd have a in the ring. I

1323
01:02:53.320 --> 01:02:55.519
<v Speaker 22>didn't have a I don't know what the word is,

1324
01:02:55.559 --> 01:02:57.840
<v Speaker 22>but we knew what each other was thinking, whether we

1325
01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:01.079
<v Speaker 22>were partners or opponents or I can always step one way,

1326
01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:02.519
<v Speaker 22>and I knew he would be there as like I

1327
01:03:02.559 --> 01:03:04.559
<v Speaker 22>didn't really have that with with anybody else, but like

1328
01:03:04.679 --> 01:03:07.320
<v Speaker 22>if we were tag team partners or opponents, always on

1329
01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:08.920
<v Speaker 22>the same page about anything, and it was like a

1330
01:03:08.960 --> 01:03:12.400
<v Speaker 22>real easy to be able to just work with one another,

1331
01:03:13.039 --> 01:03:17.480
<v Speaker 22>you know, like probably the best partner or opponent I've

1332
01:03:17.480 --> 01:03:20.079
<v Speaker 22>ever had. But then Doug Bashelm, I think I probably

1333
01:03:20.079 --> 01:03:22.519
<v Speaker 22>have my best matches with Doug Bashelm.

1334
01:03:22.719 --> 01:03:25.280
<v Speaker 7>But Conway was always a heel, and he never wanted to.

1335
01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:26.719
<v Speaker 22>Be a baby face. And I was always a baby face.

1336
01:03:26.920 --> 01:03:29.159
<v Speaker 22>I beginning out of trouble being the heel. But he

1337
01:03:29.239 --> 01:03:31.159
<v Speaker 22>just wanted to punch Kicken stomps. That's what Lawler and

1338
01:03:31.199 --> 01:03:33.840
<v Speaker 22>Dundee Didville.

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01:03:35.800 --> 01:03:39.480
<v Speaker 6>Yes, question for both the talents. Who owns the names

1340
01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:40.440
<v Speaker 6>of your characters?

1341
01:03:40.639 --> 01:03:42.920
<v Speaker 7>Do you own your own names?

1342
01:03:44.119 --> 01:03:44.639
<v Speaker 6>Okay?

1343
01:03:45.159 --> 01:03:47.960
<v Speaker 7>I signed, I signed away my likeness rights. Do you

1344
01:03:48.039 --> 01:03:48.840
<v Speaker 7>do you have to lease it?

1345
01:03:48.880 --> 01:03:49.079
<v Speaker 4>Then?

1346
01:03:50.440 --> 01:03:52.719
<v Speaker 7>It really hasn't been an issue. I just I just

1347
01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:55.119
<v Speaker 7>kn'd you know, just if they sent me.

1348
01:03:56.960 --> 01:04:03.599
<v Speaker 26>Okay, thank you, Pasbro. Anybody that wants to mark than

1349
01:04:03.679 --> 01:04:06.480
<v Speaker 26>me the right to use my name, okay, but it

1350
01:04:06.599 --> 01:04:12.599
<v Speaker 26>was it was a hard time, yeah, eighty eighty four

1351
01:04:13.760 --> 01:04:16.320
<v Speaker 26>for me to have to own that name.

1352
01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:20.119
<v Speaker 5>But Buro I am today.

1353
01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:23.039
<v Speaker 1>So any other final questions for Nick before we kind

1354
01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:24.760
<v Speaker 1>of shift focus to Sarge.

1355
01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:26.599
<v Speaker 11>All right, cool, quick one?

1356
01:04:26.719 --> 01:04:27.159
<v Speaker 4>Oh sure?

1357
01:04:27.239 --> 01:04:27.400
<v Speaker 18>Yeah?

1358
01:04:27.440 --> 01:04:31.079
<v Speaker 22>Any memories of about Rico Constantino or Rico is awesome,

1359
01:04:31.119 --> 01:04:32.599
<v Speaker 22>Like he was one of the first developmental guys to

1360
01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:35.280
<v Speaker 22>come to Louisville. And I think he got signed at

1361
01:04:35.360 --> 01:04:38.440
<v Speaker 22>like thirty nine years old maybe or forty, but he

1362
01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:40.880
<v Speaker 22>had walked onto the American Gladiators and won. He'd been

1363
01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:44.559
<v Speaker 22>a cop, been a paramedic, been shot, been stabbed, was

1364
01:04:44.840 --> 01:04:47.159
<v Speaker 22>a bodyguard for Kiss, bodyguard.

1365
01:04:46.639 --> 01:04:49.559
<v Speaker 7>For Benny Hens, the faith healer, legit bad dude.

1366
01:04:49.639 --> 01:04:51.519
<v Speaker 22>After nine to eleven, he was almost asked to be

1367
01:04:51.679 --> 01:04:57.719
<v Speaker 22>a US Marshall I think, but he supposedly he wrestled

1368
01:04:57.719 --> 01:04:59.079
<v Speaker 22>a little bit in Las Vegas and then he sent

1369
01:04:59.119 --> 01:05:02.440
<v Speaker 22>a tape in w Back when WCW's around, they're like,

1370
01:05:02.639 --> 01:05:04.960
<v Speaker 22>somebody calls, you know, w CW's get ready to signed

1371
01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:07.440
<v Speaker 22>Rico Constantino. You gotta decide now are you gonna signing

1372
01:05:07.519 --> 01:05:09.960
<v Speaker 22>or not? You're gonna sign him, it's supposed to They

1373
01:05:09.960 --> 01:05:11.440
<v Speaker 22>signed him right away off that. I don't know if

1374
01:05:11.440 --> 01:05:13.559
<v Speaker 22>that's true. But Rico's athletic and good.

1375
01:05:13.599 --> 01:05:14.639
<v Speaker 7>And then he got injured.

1376
01:05:14.639 --> 01:05:17.280
<v Speaker 22>He towards Botella, and he really had to change his

1377
01:05:17.320 --> 01:05:19.559
<v Speaker 22>style of wrestling, and he could change it so well

1378
01:05:20.199 --> 01:05:23.199
<v Speaker 22>like and then he played the recal character on TV

1379
01:05:23.360 --> 01:05:23.760
<v Speaker 22>was awesome.

1380
01:05:23.760 --> 01:05:25.639
<v Speaker 7>But Rico's a good dude.

1381
01:05:26.800 --> 01:05:28.480
<v Speaker 3>So well, let's get broad of a clause for Nick.

1382
01:05:41.320 --> 01:05:44.320
<v Speaker 27>Longing for some nostalgia or maybe you want to learn

1383
01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:48.280
<v Speaker 27>some wrestling history, don't miss the nineties pass cast every

1384
01:05:48.320 --> 01:05:51.679
<v Speaker 27>Friday on the PW Torch Daly Cast Feed. Alex and

1385
01:05:51.719 --> 01:05:54.960
<v Speaker 27>Patrick will transport you thirty years into the past by

1386
01:05:54.960 --> 01:05:57.519
<v Speaker 27>you taking you through the Torch issue from that very

1387
01:05:57.519 --> 01:06:01.519
<v Speaker 27>weak follow news from the WWF and WCW and all.

1388
01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:04.320
<v Speaker 28>The happenings from across the wrestling industry in real time

1389
01:06:04.519 --> 01:06:07.679
<v Speaker 28>as The Torch reported it thirty years ago. That's the

1390
01:06:07.800 --> 01:06:11.039
<v Speaker 28>nineties pass cast every Friday on the PW Torch Daily

1391
01:06:11.079 --> 01:06:11.639
<v Speaker 28>Cast Feed.

1392
01:06:24.760 --> 01:06:26.679
<v Speaker 1>Now we move next to the National Wrestling Hall of

1393
01:06:26.679 --> 01:06:31.199
<v Speaker 1>Fame Museum. The next afternoon, a panel discussion that featured

1394
01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:35.639
<v Speaker 1>Beth Phoenix, Gerald Briscoe, Bob Rup, Thunderbolt Patterson, and Baron

1395
01:06:35.719 --> 01:06:40.440
<v Speaker 1>von Rashki. This snippet features Gerald Briscoe talking about legendary

1396
01:06:40.480 --> 01:06:42.639
<v Speaker 1>take teams he wrestled at helped define the career of

1397
01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:46.280
<v Speaker 1>him and his brother Jack, and then extensive comments from

1398
01:06:46.320 --> 01:06:50.039
<v Speaker 1>Beth Phoenix about the transition from the Deva era to today,

1399
01:06:50.440 --> 01:06:53.679
<v Speaker 1>her thoughts on some rising stars men and women and more.

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01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:57.679
<v Speaker 3>So, here we go, but you, of course, you.

1401
01:06:57.639 --> 01:07:01.599
<v Speaker 29>Know if you're I think we're kind of stamped with

1402
01:07:02.599 --> 01:07:05.920
<v Speaker 29>two different teams that you know that that we exceled with,

1403
01:07:06.079 --> 01:07:08.159
<v Speaker 29>and I think that's of course, the Funk.

1404
01:07:07.960 --> 01:07:10.760
<v Speaker 6>Brothers and the pres Kale brothers with two.

1405
01:07:10.760 --> 01:07:14.000
<v Speaker 29>Texas Cowboys against two Oklahoma and in you know, and

1406
01:07:14.559 --> 01:07:17.800
<v Speaker 29>all four these and athletes and all four you know,

1407
01:07:18.840 --> 01:07:21.000
<v Speaker 29>ready to rock and roll at the bat at the

1408
01:07:21.039 --> 01:07:23.760
<v Speaker 29>bow of the Westwood would go and give, give the give,

1409
01:07:24.159 --> 01:07:26.760
<v Speaker 29>give everybody setting out there what they paid to see

1410
01:07:26.880 --> 01:07:28.320
<v Speaker 29>action for sixty minutes.

1411
01:07:28.400 --> 01:07:31.000
<v Speaker 6>And uh and it's suspense.

1412
01:07:30.639 --> 01:07:32.440
<v Speaker 15>And a good story along the line.

1413
01:07:32.480 --> 01:07:35.039
<v Speaker 6>And we're fortunately when the Funks we got to go

1414
01:07:35.119 --> 01:07:37.039
<v Speaker 6>all over the world and work with those.

1415
01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:38.599
<v Speaker 4>Two guys, and and.

1416
01:07:38.679 --> 01:07:41.400
<v Speaker 29>I think that that kind of defined their career. And

1417
01:07:41.440 --> 01:07:43.519
<v Speaker 29>then you know, of course at the end of the career,

1418
01:07:44.599 --> 01:07:47.039
<v Speaker 29>we decided to turn and turn the hills. But the

1419
01:07:47.079 --> 01:07:49.719
<v Speaker 29>funny thing about it, when the Bunks would come to

1420
01:07:49.800 --> 01:07:52.480
<v Speaker 29>Florida or the South, you know, they were the hills,

1421
01:07:52.480 --> 01:07:55.079
<v Speaker 29>but you put the brist Hills out into Texas was

1422
01:07:55.159 --> 01:07:58.159
<v Speaker 29>with the Pumps and us being from Oklahoma, we were

1423
01:07:58.199 --> 01:07:58.840
<v Speaker 29>the guys.

1424
01:07:58.840 --> 01:08:03.199
<v Speaker 6>So with our Ben kind of used to used to that.

1425
01:08:03.239 --> 01:08:05.760
<v Speaker 4>But when we went to Carolina, it was the end.

1426
01:08:05.639 --> 01:08:07.960
<v Speaker 29>Of our career and we both decided it's very hard

1427
01:08:08.039 --> 01:08:10.800
<v Speaker 29>in our career that we weren't going to team up

1428
01:08:10.840 --> 01:08:12.960
<v Speaker 29>we were going to be in several places so we

1429
01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:14.280
<v Speaker 29>could take advantage of the.

1430
01:08:14.320 --> 01:08:17.680
<v Speaker 6>System, learned the system. So he went to Florida and

1431
01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:18.840
<v Speaker 6>I went to Carolina.

1432
01:08:19.680 --> 01:08:23.520
<v Speaker 29>He was successful in Florida, course, and through the help

1433
01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:24.520
<v Speaker 29>of this man there.

1434
01:08:24.399 --> 01:08:25.840
<v Speaker 6>I was fairly successful.

1435
01:08:26.439 --> 01:08:27.600
<v Speaker 4>And the Carolina.

1436
01:08:27.760 --> 01:08:30.479
<v Speaker 29>So when they had that big show, they break Jack

1437
01:08:30.600 --> 01:08:32.960
<v Speaker 29>into Carolina. When they have big showed in Florida, they

1438
01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:36.439
<v Speaker 29>break me down there and and you know, we had

1439
01:08:36.439 --> 01:08:37.920
<v Speaker 29>the best of two worlds.

1440
01:08:38.000 --> 01:08:41.239
<v Speaker 6>But probably at the end of it, that was the

1441
01:08:41.279 --> 01:08:43.079
<v Speaker 6>beginning of the career where we said we're not really

1442
01:08:43.119 --> 01:08:45.199
<v Speaker 6>gonna be tag team. We're not going to be known

1443
01:08:45.239 --> 01:08:45.960
<v Speaker 6>as the tag.

1444
01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:46.640
<v Speaker 4>Team in the beginning.

1445
01:08:46.680 --> 01:08:48.760
<v Speaker 6>So we ended up being because of Pompton.

1446
01:08:48.840 --> 01:08:52.399
<v Speaker 29>And then at the end of the career were Florida Jackets.

1447
01:08:52.600 --> 01:08:56.520
<v Speaker 6>Really wanted to retire, he said, So he said, you.

1448
01:08:56.560 --> 01:08:59.000
<v Speaker 20>Know, why don't we turn hill and go to Carolina.

1449
01:08:59.119 --> 01:09:02.720
<v Speaker 29>Doc both Jay Youngblud had just come off of this

1450
01:09:03.319 --> 01:09:06.960
<v Speaker 29>gigantic program with Sergeants Solder and Don to the little

1451
01:09:07.000 --> 01:09:12.359
<v Speaker 29>sergeants here the night and being honored and rightfully so.

1452
01:09:12.359 --> 01:09:14.920
<v Speaker 29>So when they finished up that so Ricky and Jay

1453
01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:16.920
<v Speaker 29>they were so hot. I mean, you give you just

1454
01:09:17.119 --> 01:09:20.800
<v Speaker 29>walk bile and do you kill the uh the hot

1455
01:09:20.880 --> 01:09:22.039
<v Speaker 29>key coming off of them.

1456
01:09:22.039 --> 01:09:25.399
<v Speaker 6>So we we worked at them where we really didn't.

1457
01:09:25.239 --> 01:09:26.319
<v Speaker 4>Change a whole lot.

1458
01:09:26.479 --> 01:09:31.359
<v Speaker 29>We just became more resting, more more uh more to

1459
01:09:31.399 --> 01:09:34.359
<v Speaker 29>the point where we wouldn't break the rules so much,

1460
01:09:34.439 --> 01:09:37.960
<v Speaker 29>and we'd just been them until they couldn't have been anymore.

1461
01:09:38.039 --> 01:09:40.520
<v Speaker 6>And and the people him routing Ricky and.

1462
01:09:40.560 --> 01:09:45.279
<v Speaker 29>Day to to uh to outstanding them and babyfaces like

1463
01:09:45.359 --> 01:09:48.760
<v Speaker 29>a good guys. We automatically, because we were the venner

1464
01:09:48.760 --> 01:09:51.960
<v Speaker 29>and who were the older guy, we automatically became became.

1465
01:09:51.680 --> 01:09:54.359
<v Speaker 6>The bad guys. And we had a very successful rotten

1466
01:09:54.399 --> 01:09:57.720
<v Speaker 6>with those guys. So I hate to hate to say

1467
01:09:57.760 --> 01:10:01.039
<v Speaker 6>one team over another, but I like those two team

1468
01:10:01.079 --> 01:10:02.159
<v Speaker 6>brought there conn at the.

1469
01:10:02.119 --> 01:10:10.159
<v Speaker 30>Mine of the fact, I have another question to me

1470
01:10:10.279 --> 01:10:13.840
<v Speaker 30>that as a as a wrestler who came in.

1471
01:10:13.760 --> 01:10:17.560
<v Speaker 31>An era where the women weren't necessarily all being taken

1472
01:10:17.560 --> 01:10:20.000
<v Speaker 31>as seriously as they are today.

1473
01:10:21.199 --> 01:10:24.119
<v Speaker 7>I'm curious what emotions and.

1474
01:10:24.159 --> 01:10:26.840
<v Speaker 31>Like, what were you feelings as the whole The hashtag

1475
01:10:26.920 --> 01:10:28.560
<v Speaker 31>give you Little Chance started.

1476
01:10:28.279 --> 01:10:30.119
<v Speaker 6>Taking hold in just.

1477
01:10:30.079 --> 01:10:32.199
<v Speaker 9>The last few years, as we've seen.

1478
01:10:32.560 --> 01:10:36.760
<v Speaker 31>WWE and other companies start to position the women in

1479
01:10:36.800 --> 01:10:38.920
<v Speaker 31>the main events. We just saw the women native in

1480
01:10:39.000 --> 01:10:42.760
<v Speaker 31>WrestleMania that you were also on, So just kind of give.

1481
01:10:42.640 --> 01:10:45.439
<v Speaker 6>Me what was going on in your headspace through that period.

1482
01:10:46.920 --> 01:10:50.680
<v Speaker 32>Sure, you know, I think that we have to be

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01:10:50.800 --> 01:10:54.159
<v Speaker 32>transparent about where we were at one point in order

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01:10:54.199 --> 01:10:57.640
<v Speaker 32>to kind of acknowledge where we are now today. So

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<v Speaker 32>I know that it's hard to kind of talk about

1486
01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:01.520
<v Speaker 32>some of the stuff that was a part of our

1487
01:11:01.560 --> 01:11:04.439
<v Speaker 32>business for a while. But again, like we were talking

1488
01:11:04.439 --> 01:11:07.520
<v Speaker 32>about earlier, that's what put what's in seats at the time,

1489
01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:08.479
<v Speaker 32>that was our brand.

1490
01:11:08.560 --> 01:11:09.920
<v Speaker 24>It was very sexualized.

1491
01:11:10.279 --> 01:11:11.199
<v Speaker 11>I was a part of that.

1492
01:11:11.359 --> 01:11:14.000
<v Speaker 24>You know, I did d this photo shoots and bikinis

1493
01:11:14.039 --> 01:11:14.239
<v Speaker 24>and that.

1494
01:11:14.840 --> 01:11:18.000
<v Speaker 32>But we always myself, I can only speak on my

1495
01:11:18.760 --> 01:11:21.520
<v Speaker 32>own feelings, and I'm sure a lot of the girls

1496
01:11:21.520 --> 01:11:24.359
<v Speaker 32>felt this way too. If I had to do a

1497
01:11:24.399 --> 01:11:28.079
<v Speaker 32>bikini shoot to get an opportunity to have a wrestling

1498
01:11:28.079 --> 01:11:30.800
<v Speaker 32>match down the line or wrestle on a pay per

1499
01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:34.439
<v Speaker 32>view and create a storyliner and angles surrounding a Playboy magazine,

1500
01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:38.199
<v Speaker 32>then I felt like I would be contributing to the

1501
01:11:38.319 --> 01:11:42.439
<v Speaker 32>change somehow. Even if and I know Trisha and I

1502
01:11:42.439 --> 01:11:44.199
<v Speaker 32>had had this top trist Stratus and I had this

1503
01:11:44.239 --> 01:11:47.399
<v Speaker 32>talk too, so tonight and we would have this top

1504
01:11:47.439 --> 01:11:50.319
<v Speaker 32>with that finley if that would say like tonight, you

1505
01:11:50.399 --> 01:11:54.039
<v Speaker 32>have match and it's going to be a gradeable match.

1506
01:11:54.279 --> 01:11:55.479
<v Speaker 24>You're going to be wrestling in mud.

1507
01:11:56.279 --> 01:11:59.560
<v Speaker 32>And he's like, Fus, that doesn't mean it has to

1508
01:11:59.600 --> 01:12:03.399
<v Speaker 32>be He's like, we can make this entertaining. This is

1509
01:12:03.439 --> 01:12:06.640
<v Speaker 32>what we're given, and we can also make them want

1510
01:12:06.680 --> 01:12:07.319
<v Speaker 32>to see.

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01:12:07.079 --> 01:12:08.199
<v Speaker 24>More from the women.

1512
01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:11.560
<v Speaker 32>And the thing is, if you care about that products,

1513
01:12:12.039 --> 01:12:13.640
<v Speaker 32>it's going to read and.

1514
01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:16.720
<v Speaker 24>They're going to want to see more. And the bottom line.

1515
01:12:16.640 --> 01:12:19.600
<v Speaker 32>Is we were entertainers, so we were there to entertain

1516
01:12:20.119 --> 01:12:23.199
<v Speaker 32>in whatever job we were given. And I think the

1517
01:12:23.239 --> 01:12:26.640
<v Speaker 32>mentality for all the women was sure, I would much.

1518
01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:29.960
<v Speaker 24>Rather be having a thirty minute, you know, hell.

1519
01:12:29.840 --> 01:12:32.239
<v Speaker 32>At us cell match, or I would much rather be

1520
01:12:32.279 --> 01:12:34.920
<v Speaker 32>featured in an I quit match, you know, a main.

1521
01:12:34.760 --> 01:12:36.479
<v Speaker 24>Event on a pay per view. But this is what

1522
01:12:36.520 --> 01:12:38.520
<v Speaker 24>I had and I'm still going to bring my best.

1523
01:12:39.039 --> 01:12:41.920
<v Speaker 32>So fast forward to today, I think you started getting

1524
01:12:41.960 --> 01:12:45.760
<v Speaker 32>more and more girls that we're wanting to take those

1525
01:12:45.880 --> 01:12:49.279
<v Speaker 32>risks and show that they had more. Plus cultures change

1526
01:12:49.399 --> 01:12:51.600
<v Speaker 32>and it's been helping. You know, I feel like there's

1527
01:12:51.600 --> 01:12:54.479
<v Speaker 32>a shift in culture where we're seeing more women rise

1528
01:12:54.600 --> 01:12:57.520
<v Speaker 32>up as leaders, as stars and superheroes. You know, you

1529
01:12:57.600 --> 01:13:01.159
<v Speaker 32>have Captain Marvel and Wonder Woman, and people are flocking

1530
01:13:01.159 --> 01:13:02.039
<v Speaker 32>to see these movies.

1531
01:13:02.079 --> 01:13:04.159
<v Speaker 24>And like I said earlier, it's not just the women

1532
01:13:04.359 --> 01:13:06.119
<v Speaker 24>saying like we want.

1533
01:13:05.960 --> 01:13:11.960
<v Speaker 32>To see this, it's dad's brothers, sons, you know, males

1534
01:13:12.039 --> 01:13:15.439
<v Speaker 32>are also ready for the change to see women featured more.

1535
01:13:16.079 --> 01:13:18.319
<v Speaker 32>And I got to do to be a part of

1536
01:13:18.359 --> 01:13:21.079
<v Speaker 32>WrestleMania and step back in the ring this year, and

1537
01:13:21.600 --> 01:13:24.640
<v Speaker 32>for me, having had two children and being the age

1538
01:13:24.640 --> 01:13:26.880
<v Speaker 32>that I am, I'm thirty eight years old.

1539
01:13:27.640 --> 01:13:29.720
<v Speaker 24>To have the opportunity to step back in the ring

1540
01:13:29.760 --> 01:13:32.159
<v Speaker 24>and perform with the women that that sort of wasn't.

1541
01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:35.359
<v Speaker 32>Available before having kids and being able to perform, and like,

1542
01:13:35.800 --> 01:13:38.880
<v Speaker 32>roles are changing, the world is changing, and I just

1543
01:13:39.079 --> 01:13:41.720
<v Speaker 32>love seeing that now little girls are going to have

1544
01:13:42.039 --> 01:13:46.880
<v Speaker 32>female superstars to grow up dreaming about, you know, and

1545
01:13:47.640 --> 01:13:49.960
<v Speaker 32>their action figures and video games.

1546
01:13:49.760 --> 01:13:52.600
<v Speaker 24>Which there was but not as prevalent as it is now.

1547
01:13:52.920 --> 01:13:55.640
<v Speaker 32>And all this is really really relevant to me because

1548
01:13:55.640 --> 01:13:59.159
<v Speaker 32>I have two little girls, so I've invested interest in

1549
01:13:59.199 --> 01:14:02.840
<v Speaker 32>making sure that the next generation doesn't see it as like,

1550
01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:06.520
<v Speaker 32>you know, men are in a certain echelon, and women

1551
01:14:06.560 --> 01:14:07.479
<v Speaker 32>are in a certain echelon.

1552
01:14:07.520 --> 01:14:09.720
<v Speaker 24>I just want them to see like superstars.

1553
01:14:09.760 --> 01:14:12.600
<v Speaker 32>And I love that they've done away with separating calling

1554
01:14:12.680 --> 01:14:15.880
<v Speaker 32>it divas and I respect that, but I just love

1555
01:14:15.920 --> 01:14:19.560
<v Speaker 32>that it's superstars across the board. It really gives the

1556
01:14:19.600 --> 01:14:22.319
<v Speaker 32>product of sense of equality, and we're just seeing that

1557
01:14:22.439 --> 01:14:23.399
<v Speaker 32>not only in WWE.

1558
01:14:23.560 --> 01:14:26.720
<v Speaker 24>You know, we're seeing that an impact wrestling. We're seeing it.

1559
01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:28.520
<v Speaker 24>You know, I'm sure AW is.

1560
01:14:28.520 --> 01:14:31.640
<v Speaker 32>Going to be making some some changes in statements to

1561
01:14:31.760 --> 01:14:35.680
<v Speaker 32>represent women positively. And I just I love seeing that

1562
01:14:35.760 --> 01:14:37.920
<v Speaker 32>happen across the board because what it means is for

1563
01:14:38.159 --> 01:14:40.239
<v Speaker 32>my little girls is they're not going.

1564
01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:44.279
<v Speaker 24>To feel a glass seal like previous generations. And I'm very,

1565
01:14:44.439 --> 01:14:46.279
<v Speaker 24>very very proud to have been a part of that.

1566
01:14:51.239 --> 01:14:54.239
<v Speaker 6>I do time for one more questions. Is anybody that

1567
01:14:54.359 --> 01:15:00.079
<v Speaker 6>has a question go ahead that I.

1568
01:15:09.960 --> 01:15:11.119
<v Speaker 24>Haven't heard it?

1569
01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:14.399
<v Speaker 32>Or when I do know that the previous two man

1570
01:15:14.439 --> 01:15:17.640
<v Speaker 32>classics were really successful and everybody was very very happy

1571
01:15:17.680 --> 01:15:20.359
<v Speaker 32>with it, I wouldn't be surprised to see it come back.

1572
01:15:20.479 --> 01:15:23.399
<v Speaker 32>I just haven't heard any I haven't heard any rumblings

1573
01:15:23.439 --> 01:15:27.079
<v Speaker 32>about when that might be, but I would I would expect.

1574
01:15:26.800 --> 01:15:27.359
<v Speaker 7>It to happen.

1575
01:15:27.560 --> 01:15:30.399
<v Speaker 24>You know, we had wonderful feedback and.

1576
01:15:30.319 --> 01:15:33.359
<v Speaker 32>What I wouldn't have given as an indie wrestler to

1577
01:15:33.439 --> 01:15:36.279
<v Speaker 32>have had an opportunity to wrestle on the WWE platform

1578
01:15:36.479 --> 01:15:38.279
<v Speaker 32>Like this is such a cool time and I was

1579
01:15:38.279 --> 01:15:40.680
<v Speaker 32>so happy to see girls that have been working their

1580
01:15:40.720 --> 01:15:43.640
<v Speaker 32>butts off for decades get that chance to be featured

1581
01:15:43.680 --> 01:15:44.319
<v Speaker 32>in WWE.

1582
01:15:44.479 --> 01:15:46.560
<v Speaker 24>So I would expect to see it again.

1583
01:15:51.600 --> 01:15:52.720
<v Speaker 4>It's a short question, so.

1584
01:15:52.640 --> 01:15:53.840
<v Speaker 6>We'll do one more. One more.

1585
01:15:53.960 --> 01:16:02.199
<v Speaker 11>This is it.

1586
01:16:00.319 --> 01:16:01.279
<v Speaker 6>Helping powers?

1587
01:16:01.720 --> 01:16:02.720
<v Speaker 8>Really picks up your.

1588
01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:03.119
<v Speaker 20>Eye right now?

1589
01:16:05.119 --> 01:16:07.159
<v Speaker 24>Like male or female, anybody.

1590
01:16:10.600 --> 01:16:13.079
<v Speaker 32>I mean, I think we're all talking about from the

1591
01:16:13.119 --> 01:16:15.520
<v Speaker 32>male side, We're all talking about will Asprey. I think

1592
01:16:16.439 --> 01:16:20.960
<v Speaker 32>he just brings something so different to the table. He's

1593
01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:23.640
<v Speaker 32>such a classy, humble guy. I think he's I think

1594
01:16:23.680 --> 01:16:26.079
<v Speaker 32>he can do anything he wants you for the rest

1595
01:16:26.079 --> 01:16:28.319
<v Speaker 32>of his life as far as career goes. And I

1596
01:16:28.399 --> 01:16:31.159
<v Speaker 32>know I know she's currently signed an Impact, but I

1597
01:16:31.239 --> 01:16:38.279
<v Speaker 32>really love Jordan Grace. I feel like she's she's really special.

1598
01:16:38.800 --> 01:16:41.279
<v Speaker 32>She has an amazing work ethic. But I also like

1599
01:16:41.399 --> 01:16:44.119
<v Speaker 32>the positive self image that she gives up.

1600
01:16:44.159 --> 01:16:46.840
<v Speaker 24>I think we need more female role models like that.

1601
01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:52.920
<v Speaker 32>They're representative of diverse shape, side eth ethnicity. I want

1602
01:16:53.039 --> 01:16:57.239
<v Speaker 32>to see a culture where little kids watching him see

1603
01:16:57.399 --> 01:16:59.760
<v Speaker 32>a little bit of themselves in somebody on.

1604
01:16:59.760 --> 01:17:00.760
<v Speaker 8>The US, you know.

1605
01:17:00.840 --> 01:17:03.800
<v Speaker 32>And I appreciate that about Jordan, and I look forward

1606
01:17:03.800 --> 01:17:04.920
<v Speaker 32>to seeing where her crew goes.

1607
01:17:08.239 --> 01:17:10.560
<v Speaker 23>All right, well, I want to thank you make incredible

1608
01:17:10.600 --> 01:17:12.840
<v Speaker 23>panel for joining me this afternoon, and I want to

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01:17:12.840 --> 01:17:13.359
<v Speaker 23>thank all.

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01:17:13.199 --> 01:17:14.520
<v Speaker 15>Of you for joining us here.

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<v Speaker 6>I do know that West Frisco. Thank you know, he's

1612
01:17:18.560 --> 01:17:20.199
<v Speaker 6>getting ready to start his podcast.

1613
01:17:20.279 --> 01:17:21.439
<v Speaker 5>I believe over by.

1614
01:17:21.560 --> 01:17:24.119
<v Speaker 33>The last I knew it was over near the wrestling ring,

1615
01:17:24.840 --> 01:17:26.359
<v Speaker 33>So I encourage you all to go check that out.

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<v Speaker 24>But let's give r out of a positive channel when I.

1617
01:17:28.319 --> 01:17:47.479
<v Speaker 20>Have been doing this podcast.

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01:17:47.520 --> 01:17:48.399
<v Speaker 4>So I'm well, we're.

1619
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<v Speaker 6>Gonna be over everybody.

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01:17:49.399 --> 01:17:50.039
<v Speaker 20>Don't drop on.

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<v Speaker 29>Just say you know it's saying word of doing mail

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<v Speaker 6>Just drop by. I'm just saying, tell him how much

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<v Speaker 6>just sorry that my sister how couldn't be here.

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01:18:08.960 --> 01:18:11.880
<v Speaker 20>It was top being a leading manager.

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