WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:06.120 Yea ripped off. 2 00:00:07.559 --> 00:00:08.279 News. 3 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:10.519 Need advice so you don't have. 4 00:00:13.240 --> 00:00:15.199 Run in sustass as we can. 5 00:00:16.480 --> 00:00:19.800 Shooter's gonna help coming man. 6 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:22.120 This is the Troubleshooter Show. 7 00:00:22.760 --> 00:00:29.359 No Tom Martinez, Welcome, Welcome, my friends to the Only 8 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:32.159 show if it's kind. We're here to solve problems, answer questions, 9 00:00:32.679 --> 00:00:35.240 kate complaints. You're lucky to join us today if you've 10 00:00:35.240 --> 00:00:38.439 got a problem, because we have got two deputies. 11 00:00:38.439 --> 00:00:40.159 We got deputy doc Deputy Bow. 12 00:00:40.280 --> 00:00:43.799 John Fuller, attorney at law, joins me, and we've got 13 00:00:43.799 --> 00:00:44.719 a big show for. 14 00:00:44.640 --> 00:00:47.320 You today coming up at eleven o'clock. 15 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:52.560 We're gonna have somebody on that actually got a seventy 16 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:57.479 five dollars ticket. It's actually not a ticket, which is 17 00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:00.079 we'll get into it to eleven o'clock hour. But but 18 00:01:00.479 --> 00:01:03.840 he fought it, John, this guy fought that seventy five 19 00:01:03.960 --> 00:01:11.200 dollars ticket for crossing the double lines. I think he's 20 00:01:11.519 --> 00:01:14.000 was on I twenty five going on to E four 21 00:01:14.159 --> 00:01:17.120 seventy and he fought this whole thing. 22 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:19.040 I think it took him six months. 23 00:01:19.400 --> 00:01:22.760 He fought it all the way up and sued the 24 00:01:22.959 --> 00:01:26.560 state of Colorado. And you know how hard it is 25 00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:29.760 to actually sue a municipality or a government agency. 26 00:01:30.560 --> 00:01:31.120 Andy one. 27 00:01:31.640 --> 00:01:35.120 Now he's thinking to doing a class action because well 28 00:01:35.120 --> 00:01:37.480 we're going to get into it. It's eleven o'clock hour. 29 00:01:37.640 --> 00:01:40.519 But it's absolutely a great story. Make sure you join 30 00:01:40.599 --> 00:01:43.680 us for there. But anyhow, we got lines open right now. 31 00:01:43.719 --> 00:01:46.560 If you've been ripped off, you've been taken advantage of, 32 00:01:46.640 --> 00:01:48.840 you have any questions we want to hear from you. 33 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:52.640 Three oh three seven one three eight two five five 34 00:01:52.799 --> 00:01:56.760 three zero three Martino open lines to start the show. 35 00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:00.599 Deputy Bo, it's glad to see your still not in 36 00:02:00.680 --> 00:02:04.120 the pokey? Now did someone bake you a cake? And 37 00:02:04.159 --> 00:02:06.439 if for people that don't know what we're talking about, 38 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:09.439 he went out on assignment when was that Monday? 39 00:02:09.439 --> 00:02:14.199 That was last Friday? Out to the Spyglass Creek apartments. Yeah, 40 00:02:14.360 --> 00:02:18.120 they were doing some unethical and illegal booting of some 41 00:02:18.280 --> 00:02:20.400 shady stuff, really shady. 42 00:02:20.479 --> 00:02:23.039 What car was that when you went out to remember 43 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:24.000 what the vehicle was? 44 00:02:24.319 --> 00:02:27.400 Yeah, there were two, like when was a chevrole same 45 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:30.639 place though you have the same tenant had two cars 46 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:34.439 and the parking spaces were not marked yep, And there 47 00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:38.719 was no signage stating about booting or towing. 48 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:43.199 Did he actually cut the boot off, right, I had 49 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:43.800 a different one. 50 00:02:43.840 --> 00:02:44.879 We had like three calls. 51 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:47.280 He didn't cut up the boot off. 52 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:49.599 I went down there to try to reason with the 53 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:51.199 manager because. 54 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:51.919 He actually lived there. 55 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:55.680 He lived there, he just moved in, and the management 56 00:02:55.759 --> 00:02:59.360 company was very reluctant to give him the actual parking pass. 57 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:02.240 Where did he Where did he park? Wasn't it in 58 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:05.639 the visitors space or a different one? 59 00:03:05.680 --> 00:03:08.439 No, he parked right in front of his apartment. 60 00:03:09.319 --> 00:03:12.280 Oh good, Yes, he parked in front of his apartment. 61 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:15.639 Yes, okay, And then you went down there and they 62 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:17.639 called the cops. Sign you yeah. 63 00:03:17.680 --> 00:03:21.120 Instead of having there's just a conversation about how we 64 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:22.439 could get the boot removed. 65 00:03:23.719 --> 00:03:26.840 Don you got to turn that off? Bro, I'm sorry everybody. 66 00:03:26.919 --> 00:03:29.039 I just we got a cell phone going crazy in here, 67 00:03:29.240 --> 00:03:29.840 so go ahead. 68 00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:33.719 So anyway, instead of having a conversation about how to 69 00:03:33.759 --> 00:03:36.319 get these boot removed, because the management company to give 70 00:03:36.360 --> 00:03:39.680 him the parking pass in time, the manager called me 71 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:42.800 a scammer and was going to he did not going 72 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:44.280 to he did he called the police. 73 00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:45.719 Did the cops ever show up? 74 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:46.080 No? 75 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:47.560 I waited three and a half hours. 76 00:03:47.919 --> 00:03:49.000 Why would you even wait? 77 00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:52.240 Because I wanted the police to I wanted to explain 78 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:55.240 to the police of this un ethical activity. And I 79 00:03:55.280 --> 00:03:58.199 wasn't worried about getting a trespassing ticket because I told 80 00:03:58.240 --> 00:04:02.319 the manager that's ridiculous because I was there as a 81 00:04:02.520 --> 00:04:05.199 guest of the tenant. Yeah, you were, and I wasn't 82 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:08.159 being you know, that was crazy, though. 83 00:04:08.240 --> 00:04:11.240 I'll never forget you saying last week, hey, we're on air, 84 00:04:11.719 --> 00:04:15.199 or I'm sorry while we were on air, basically saying hey, 85 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:16.399 he called the cops. 86 00:04:16.639 --> 00:04:17.600 He asked me to leave. 87 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:20.720 Anytime I have showed up on stuff like that and 88 00:04:20.759 --> 00:04:23.040 someone asked me to leave, I have left, but generally 89 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:24.279 it's on property. 90 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:26.839 I remember going down to an auctioneer one time. 91 00:04:27.279 --> 00:04:30.680 And he asked me to leave, but you know, I left, 92 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:32.879 but I went right to the sidewalk there and I 93 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:34.560 was still filming and it went pretty good. 94 00:04:34.759 --> 00:04:36.639 But that was a really good job going down. I 95 00:04:36.639 --> 00:04:37.399 thought that was great. 96 00:04:37.519 --> 00:04:40.319 Radio man. Yeah, And let me tell you what ultimately 97 00:04:40.399 --> 00:04:41.319 happened on that deal. 98 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:44.120 Well, what happened because of the commotion with me going 99 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:48.839 in and out of the leasing offices. Cameron, the caller's girlfriend, 100 00:04:48.920 --> 00:04:51.920 was just so upset about the situation. While I was 101 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:54.439 sitting at the leasing office waiting for Denver police to 102 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:58.040 show up. She went into an apartment and paid the 103 00:04:58.279 --> 00:05:01.040 three hundred and fifty dollars boot fee to have the 104 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:04.800 boots removed well, and I told them not to do this, 105 00:05:05.160 --> 00:05:07.759 And I said, how could these boots get removed? Because 106 00:05:07.759 --> 00:05:09.560 I was at the entrance of the part of the 107 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:12.920 apartment complex waiting to see the toe company or the 108 00:05:13.000 --> 00:05:16.399 parking boot company. It was scammy. One of the maintenance 109 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:19.439 men of the apartment building went out and removed the boot. 110 00:05:19.959 --> 00:05:22.639 So it's just kind of an inside that same. 111 00:05:22.560 --> 00:05:23.759 Company park it Right. 112 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:27.040 I reached out to him on another call from Friday, 113 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:30.639 and he sent me back the other call. I don't 114 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:34.680 know if you remember this, but the guy's space was taken, 115 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:39.600 so he parked in the visitor lot only, and there's 116 00:05:39.639 --> 00:05:42.600 a big sign literally right where he parked saying, you know, 117 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:47.399 park it right, this is for visitors only. And he 118 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:50.399 parked there and they booted his car. But the funny 119 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:52.519 part was he lived there and someone was parked in 120 00:05:52.600 --> 00:05:53.240 his spot. 121 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:55.959 But park it Right still did it. I don't like 122 00:05:56.040 --> 00:05:56.680 park it Right. 123 00:05:57.319 --> 00:05:59.319 And I reached out for the owner of park it 124 00:05:59.439 --> 00:06:00.839 Right to come out on the air, and he just 125 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:03.800 emailed me back saying, here's the picture of the sign. 126 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:06.120 But he kind of threatened the guy in. 127 00:06:06.079 --> 00:06:08.000 A text too. Did they do that to your guy? 128 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:11.519 He's like, well, this guy cut the boot off. He goes, Oh, 129 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:15.279 you're destroying personal property. I mean cutting these boots off 130 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:17.759 for nothing. We're going to put a tow truck out 131 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:20.399 there and we're gonna see your cars someday and we're 132 00:06:20.439 --> 00:06:22.480 going to grab it and blah blah, and it's gonna 133 00:06:22.560 --> 00:06:25.439 end up costing you thousands. It was just a nasty, 134 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:30.160 nasty text to him. And then when the guy wouldn't 135 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:32.560 come on air, he's the same guy John when they 136 00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:36.800 were gonna when they were contemplating changing all these towing laws, 137 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:39.160 they could have put him out of business. During COVID, 138 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:41.000 he wanted to come on the show and plead his 139 00:06:41.079 --> 00:06:44.040 case to the public. How Park it writes a better 140 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:48.079 deal because your car's there, it's cheaper. But these guys 141 00:06:48.199 --> 00:06:50.480 just throw a boot on there. I mean it's crazy. 142 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:52.720 Tom and I went out one time and cut one off. 143 00:06:53.160 --> 00:06:55.279 Yeah, I wanted to cut this one off because it 144 00:06:55.319 --> 00:06:57.879 was done unethically and they didn't give the ten at 145 00:06:57.879 --> 00:07:00.360 the parking pass and I believe they did that on 146 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:00.920 perp but. 147 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:03.920 He definitely lived there. Oh, as you go to the 148 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:05.920 next level, you think they did it just for the 149 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:06.560 money grab. 150 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:10.439 Sure, I think the manager of this spyglass apartment complex 151 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:14.399 is in on it. He's getting a cut of these of. 152 00:07:14.360 --> 00:07:16.800 That's an interesting opinion. 153 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:20.120 It is an interesting opinion. I can't prove it, but 154 00:07:21.079 --> 00:07:21.519 he was. 155 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:25.519 The parking company told me that the manager has full 156 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:27.240 authority to remove the boot. 157 00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:29.879 John. He was so fired up when he was down there. 158 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:33.879 I kept going, you gotta get out of there. It's 159 00:07:34.040 --> 00:07:35.360 time to leave now. 160 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:40.120 In a development where I live, there's different segments. But 161 00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:43.959 one of my Buddi's got a parking ticket because he's 162 00:07:43.959 --> 00:07:47.639 supposed to know that you can only park on main roads, 163 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:50.600 not on side streets. There's no signage. 164 00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:54.240 But that's not the complex, right, It is the complex 165 00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:57.439 that is even though it's the street. You're saying they 166 00:07:57.519 --> 00:07:58.480 own the side streets. 167 00:07:58.600 --> 00:08:01.519 It's within the it's within development. And he got towed, 168 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:05.240 He got a boot because he parked on one of 169 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:08.439 the side streets and not one of the main roads. 170 00:08:08.639 --> 00:08:10.800 And how the hell are you supposed to know that? 171 00:08:10.800 --> 00:08:12.720 There's absolutely no signage. 172 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:16.639 That's interesting. I mean, yeah, I don't know. Maybe I 173 00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:18.759 have no idea how you're supposed to know it. I 174 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:20.560 know this for a fact, I don't care if it's 175 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:21.040 a boot. 176 00:08:21.279 --> 00:08:21.519 Well. 177 00:08:21.560 --> 00:08:24.480 Actually, the weird part is, I think boots are different. 178 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:29.079 We have towing laws for tow trucks what they can do, 179 00:08:29.600 --> 00:08:34.679 but I don't know if they roll over into this 180 00:08:34.879 --> 00:08:37.720 booting product. I mean, I have no idea, John, do 181 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:42.200 you have any thoughts on that? It's like, I know, yeah, 182 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:44.799 So I don't think they do. I think they're different. 183 00:08:44.879 --> 00:08:47.080 I don't think they have the same regulations. 184 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:49.679 I don't think they do because they're mainly acting as 185 00:08:49.679 --> 00:08:51.559 an agent of the private property owner. 186 00:08:51.799 --> 00:08:54.360 Yeah, so when they said, oh, you cut our boot off, 187 00:08:54.360 --> 00:08:56.120 we're going to come after and tow your car and 188 00:08:56.159 --> 00:08:57.480 all this, I don't think they can. 189 00:08:57.399 --> 00:08:58.279 Legally do that. 190 00:08:58.399 --> 00:08:59.240 I don't think so either. 191 00:08:59.279 --> 00:09:00.720 I think they'd have to go to court. 192 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:03.080 They'd have to get a judgment for the destruction of 193 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:04.200 that private property. 194 00:09:04.960 --> 00:09:07.159 They'd have to prove that is the guy that cut 195 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:07.480 it off. 196 00:09:07.519 --> 00:09:10.159 They'd have to prove all kinds of stuff before they 197 00:09:10.200 --> 00:09:13.840 could go out and just randomly tow a vehicle. I mean, 198 00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:16.519 I don't know why more people. Honestly, I'm not condoning 199 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:18.480 this because I don't know what could happen to you. 200 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:21.039 But I don't know why more people just simply don't 201 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:24.320 cut the boot off, like really, I mean personally, I 202 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:27.840 don't think I would. I don't, but maybe I would. 203 00:09:27.919 --> 00:09:30.919 I mean, I've cut a boot off for a caller before. 204 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:32.480 Well, how hard it is to cut the boot? 205 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:34.879 It was nothing, man. We could have done it right there, 206 00:09:34.919 --> 00:09:37.679 but we didn't know that going down there. So we 207 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:39.639 brought a tow truck. I got a buddy that owns 208 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:41.720 a tow truck. We went down there, put it on 209 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:44.200 a tow truck real quick. We brought it over to 210 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:46.919 Jeff Vick's place, and he cut it off with a 211 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:49.799 little whiz wheel in less than two seconds. 212 00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:53.039 Right, But somebody, if I walked out this morning and 213 00:09:53.080 --> 00:09:55.720 found a boot, what would I need to do to 214 00:09:55.720 --> 00:09:56.320 cut it off? 215 00:09:56.440 --> 00:10:00.639 A little whiz wheel would work. Even a little batteryoperty. 216 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:04.799 On battery, a battery operated, a little hacksaw would work. 217 00:10:04.879 --> 00:10:07.279 That'd be a little pay, but it would definitely work. 218 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:09.480 I don't think it would take all that long. There's 219 00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:10.639 not much to these. 220 00:10:10.480 --> 00:10:13.879 Boots, especially these the boots that I encountered, they looked 221 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:15.960 like a pick a ball. 222 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:17.639 Yeah, this guy, you got to give it to the 223 00:10:17.639 --> 00:10:19.720 guy that came up with it. He came up with 224 00:10:19.879 --> 00:10:24.480 a direct com. He's a direct competitor of tow truck companies. 225 00:10:24.519 --> 00:10:27.200 And I think I think you're right. I think they 226 00:10:27.279 --> 00:10:30.840 do get They might pay them a certain amount of 227 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:33.039 money per month, so I wouldn't call it a kickback, 228 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:35.559 but I would love to know how the business model works. 229 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:38.120 But when I called the guy up, man, I tried 230 00:10:38.200 --> 00:10:41.240 left a message and I texted him, I emailed him, 231 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:43.200 and all of a sudden, he didn't want to come on. 232 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:45.559 He just sent me over a picture. And it's like 233 00:10:45.679 --> 00:10:47.360 that told me a lot about the guy. I think 234 00:10:47.399 --> 00:10:48.799 he's a bum. That's my opinion. 235 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:50.000 All right, let's take a break. 236 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:53.080 We got lines open. 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Yeah, 260 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:12.000 there are regulations regarding private booting on private property. I 261 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:15.519 did look them up. Are they well? The two they're 262 00:12:15.559 --> 00:12:18.759 pretty They're not as voluminous as the regulations that affect 263 00:12:18.759 --> 00:12:22.440 the towing industry. But the two important ones are the 264 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:25.000 state sets a maximum cap of one hundred and sixty 265 00:12:25.039 --> 00:12:28.639 dollars per boot, and the second thing that they set 266 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:30.200 is the maximum for their. 267 00:12:30.120 --> 00:12:34.000 Own boots, I assume, yeah right, yeah, downtown Denver. 268 00:12:34.159 --> 00:12:36.159 Yeah yeah, yeah. I'm not talking about government boots. I'm 269 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:38.759 talking about the private boots, such as the case that 270 00:12:38.840 --> 00:12:41.919 BO has been working. And the second regulation deals with 271 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:44.679 their response times. So from the time that you pay 272 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:48.000 the ticket, the state requires that the boot is removed 273 00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:51.840 within a certain number of hours during business hours and 274 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:54.600 a larger amount of hours during holidays and weeks. 275 00:12:54.799 --> 00:12:57.440 The one work where you where you were BO? 276 00:12:57.559 --> 00:12:58.240 Do you? 277 00:12:58.279 --> 00:12:59.279 How do they get it off? 278 00:12:59.320 --> 00:13:01.960 They call up a pay back in the day five 279 00:13:02.039 --> 00:13:04.919 years ago, park it right, you basically would call up 280 00:13:04.919 --> 00:13:06.879 and pay and I thought they gave you a code. 281 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:09.840 Yeah, what happened here? And also I want to crack something. 282 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:14.039 The company is called Metro Parking Management, not park it Right. No, 283 00:13:14.320 --> 00:13:19.080 Metro Parking Management of Denver. Now what happened? The tenant 284 00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:21.799 went back to apartment and called a number and gave 285 00:13:21.840 --> 00:13:25.039 her credit card and some a maintenance person from the 286 00:13:25.080 --> 00:13:27.360 apartment building came out and removed the boot. 287 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:29.600 And I think the maintenance guy, boy, that's even a 288 00:13:29.679 --> 00:13:33.480 stranger one. So under but under the statute they have 289 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:35.440 to do it in two hours. 290 00:13:35.759 --> 00:13:38.519 I can't remember the exact number. Of hours, but there 291 00:13:38.519 --> 00:13:40.120 are two two tight. 292 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:43.000 And then what happens if like someone does cut it off? 293 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:45.879 And the one that I was checking out and emailed. 294 00:13:45.399 --> 00:13:48.399 Park it right on, Well, it's certainly something I would do, right, 295 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:49.320 I know what I'm saying. 296 00:13:49.399 --> 00:13:50.480 Is there any rules? 297 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:50.639 Like? 298 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:51.960 What are they allowed to do? 299 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:57.120 Well? The regulation affecting private boots does not address your 300 00:13:57.159 --> 00:13:58.480 own self help remedies. 301 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:00.159 See, I mean if you did it, if some and 302 00:14:00.159 --> 00:14:01.919 put a boot on there, First of all, how would 303 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:02.679 I know who did it? 304 00:14:02.879 --> 00:14:04.080 I'm just thinking out loud. 305 00:14:04.360 --> 00:14:06.279 I'm sure they put a sticker in a phone number 306 00:14:06.279 --> 00:14:08.279 and stuff, but maybe someone takes that off. 307 00:14:08.440 --> 00:14:10.080 Yeah, and I'd be the wind. 308 00:14:10.120 --> 00:14:12.360 Yeah whatever, It's like, okay, see you cut the boot. 309 00:14:12.559 --> 00:14:15.200 Now what I mean, what can they possibly do if 310 00:14:15.240 --> 00:14:18.159 you park in the right place the next day? I mean, 311 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:20.879 can they come and tow your car the next day? 312 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:21.600 I don't think so. 313 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:26.039 No, I don't think they can provide retaliatory towing services 314 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:26.960 for your car. Right. 315 00:14:27.159 --> 00:14:30.440 The text that one guy received was unbelievable from park 316 00:14:30.480 --> 00:14:32.720 it right. Oh, They're like, we're gonna see your car 317 00:14:32.799 --> 00:14:34.759 and we're gonna get it, and we'll get you and 318 00:14:34.799 --> 00:14:36.440 you owe as thousands of dollars. 319 00:14:36.480 --> 00:14:38.080 You destroyed our property. 320 00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:40.720 And you know it's not verbatim, but that's basically what 321 00:14:40.799 --> 00:14:41.440 they were saying. 322 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:43.279 Yeah, I don't doubt that the man sent you an 323 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:47.399 unhinged text or set, you know, the concerner and unhinged text. However, 324 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:47.960 mark you know. 325 00:14:47.960 --> 00:14:50.159 That did on Let me ask you this on that 326 00:14:50.559 --> 00:14:55.039 because of a tow company tows you and you can't 327 00:14:55.080 --> 00:14:57.480 afford to get your car back, they have to release 328 00:14:57.519 --> 00:14:59.080 it for I think seventy five bucks. 329 00:14:59.159 --> 00:15:00.159 Yeah, it's even cheap. 330 00:15:00.200 --> 00:15:03.080 It's like sixty bucks with the uh wait wait with 331 00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:04.000 the go ahead. 332 00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:07.039 Yes, so the towing company has to release your car 333 00:15:07.159 --> 00:15:10.320 for sixty some dollars and an agreement for you to 334 00:15:10.399 --> 00:15:12.679 repay the rest of the three over time. 335 00:15:12.720 --> 00:15:14.559 And let me tell you they are supposed to have 336 00:15:14.639 --> 00:15:18.240 signs posted and everything. Oh yeah, and a lot of 337 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:21.320 them people don't even know that's an option. They try 338 00:15:21.320 --> 00:15:23.799 to do it on the real download. In fact, I 339 00:15:23.799 --> 00:15:26.440 think it was Wyatts they got in trouble for that. Yeah, 340 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:29.080 but people listening, listen if you've got to. If they're 341 00:15:29.120 --> 00:15:31.720 going that's four ner and fifty bucks, all you got 342 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:33.759 to say is I don't get the money, and they 343 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:34.360 got to cut it. 344 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:36.039 You're saying sixty bucks. 345 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:39.200 It's sixty something. Just boot go for that too, though, No, no, 346 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:42.240 the only two regulations are the ones I mentioned, so 347 00:15:42.279 --> 00:15:46.240 the boot is not regulated to the same extent. But Mark, 348 00:15:46.279 --> 00:15:49.200 in my research into Bo's matter over here, I came 349 00:15:49.240 --> 00:15:52.559 across a more insiduous device out there. Now, what is 350 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:55.200 Are you familiar with the term windshield octopus? 351 00:15:56.639 --> 00:15:59.360 I assume it's something right over your windshield. I think 352 00:15:59.440 --> 00:16:03.000 I have heard this. So you literally couldn't drive because 353 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:03.799 you can't see. 354 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:07.320 It's a steel box about the size and shape of 355 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:10.600 an open phone book if you remember that, and in 356 00:16:10.919 --> 00:16:14.440 on the underside of the steel box that contacts your window, 357 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:17.440 or a whole bunch of suction cups. So they stick 358 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:21.799 this thing to your windshield, activate the suction cups, cups, 359 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:25.440 and lock the box. That's unbelieva and it's very difficult 360 00:16:25.519 --> 00:16:28.159 to cut off. There is just nothing in there to attack, 361 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:32.679 and you know you could what is it? What shield octopus? 362 00:16:32.679 --> 00:16:32.879 Oh? 363 00:16:32.919 --> 00:16:37.360 My god, never have you even seen one besides on air, just. 364 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:40.480 On the internet. And it's you know, like a big 365 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:42.759 yellow wangle. 366 00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:45.480 So when you get it taken off, then what. 367 00:16:46.279 --> 00:16:48.440 Well, just like the boot, right, somebody would have to 368 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:53.000 come out and stick the suction cups after collecting your cash, 369 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:55.720 and then they take the device back with them. But 370 00:16:55.840 --> 00:16:59.559 I assume that can be attacked with a portable angle grinder, 371 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:01.559 just like a private boot could be. 372 00:17:01.879 --> 00:17:07.119 That is unbelievable. Removing the Barnacle parking device, the barnacle, 373 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:12.200 the barnacle. It's easy to remove the Barnacle property device. 374 00:17:12.279 --> 00:17:16.119 It works with large suction cups and small suction pump. 375 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:19.480 Every car has a lug wrench to change your tire, 376 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:22.359 so you already have the tool you need. Just slide 377 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:25.799 the flat side of the lug wrench up to the 378 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:28.880 suction cup, push it in and twist slowly. 379 00:17:28.960 --> 00:17:30.440 It will break the seal. 380 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:32.640 Well hopefully before it breaks your win shoe. 381 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:35.279 I was just thinking that would suck. You crack your windshield, 382 00:17:35.440 --> 00:17:39.200 something will break. I guarantee you the barnacle. The barnacle 383 00:17:39.240 --> 00:17:43.000 will come off. But these people are getting kind of crazy, 384 00:17:43.000 --> 00:17:45.480 and I think I don't I would love to know 385 00:17:46.039 --> 00:17:48.880 if it's legal what they're doing or well. I guess 386 00:17:48.880 --> 00:17:52.680 it is legal to boot because you are actually doing 387 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:55.960 it because of the apartment complex or the business, whatever 388 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:59.839 it is. You're working for them and you're monitoring their 389 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:04.759 parking lot. But I still don't understand what remedy to 390 00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:07.279 the booter if someone cuts. 391 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:08.160 It off and throws it away. 392 00:18:08.440 --> 00:18:11.119 Yeah, I would take a step back. I would ask 393 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:14.519 John here for his opinion on the booters or the 394 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:19.480 Barnacle operator's right to even touch your car, regardless of 395 00:18:19.519 --> 00:18:20.200 who ordered that. 396 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:23.400 So when you move into an apartment, though, you sign 397 00:18:23.480 --> 00:18:26.519 a lease. In that lease, you're gonna have an agreement 398 00:18:26.559 --> 00:18:28.759 about where you're gonna park, and it's going to talk 399 00:18:28.799 --> 00:18:32.000 about a lot of that stuff. So I think there's 400 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:36.160 probably no problem with it in a apartment situation under 401 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:39.559 I'm not saying I'm not saying every lease is correct, 402 00:18:39.559 --> 00:18:40.519 but John thoughts. 403 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:43.519 But Mark, But before we hear John's thoughts, the lease 404 00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:47.119 might also say no animals allowed in your apartment. But 405 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:49.759 that doesn't give the property manager the right to come in, 406 00:18:50.039 --> 00:18:52.640 grab your cat while you're at work and do away 407 00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:52.920 with it. 408 00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:57.039 No, but habit If your cat was in someone else's apartment, well, 409 00:18:57.240 --> 00:19:00.279 just like your car is in someone else's space. 410 00:19:00.359 --> 00:19:02.720 Well no, if you have the right to be in 411 00:19:02.799 --> 00:19:04.640 that space, that's not something you're not going to. 412 00:19:04.680 --> 00:19:06.559 Go into your apartment and take anything. 413 00:19:06.599 --> 00:19:09.160 You're using the cat as an example, but if you're 414 00:19:09.200 --> 00:19:11.680 not supposed to have a gun, they're not going to 415 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:12.240 go take it. 416 00:19:12.680 --> 00:19:13.759 But it's an analogy. 417 00:19:13.880 --> 00:19:16.880 If that cat was outside, I think they'd have the 418 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:18.079 right to take the cat. 419 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:20.400 In my hypothetical analogy for stuff. 420 00:19:20.119 --> 00:19:22.480 It was a horrible analogy. 421 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:24.960 So let's get back to the basic of my premise, 422 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:27.240 which is, Hey, it's my car. What right do you 423 00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:31.000 have to even touch it? Hover over it, scratch it 424 00:19:31.039 --> 00:19:33.359 with your belt buckle, potentially that kind of thing. 425 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:35.480 Because you live there and it's their parking lot. Yeah, 426 00:19:35.480 --> 00:19:41.720 but it's still my car. You park it ball arena 427 00:19:42.160 --> 00:19:45.359 and you don't pay, you don't have whatever you're supposed 428 00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:48.400 to have down there to park, and they tell your 429 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:50.519 car what right did they have to touch your car? 430 00:19:50.559 --> 00:19:53.119 In that Asselet's get back to the apartment complex and 431 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:55.519 I have the right to be Yeah, what do you 432 00:19:55.599 --> 00:19:59.160 have against cats? I don't that's the point. I love 433 00:19:59.240 --> 00:19:59.680 my cat. 434 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:01.720 I need to talk here. Listen. 435 00:20:01.759 --> 00:20:04.839 I don't think you have any rights when you park 436 00:20:04.880 --> 00:20:06.440 your vehicle on somebody else's problems. 437 00:20:06.960 --> 00:20:07.920 It's private property. 438 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:10.720 They can dictate, you know, the terms that you can 439 00:20:10.759 --> 00:20:13.279 park on there or not park on there, and and 440 00:20:13.319 --> 00:20:14.319 you're subject to them. 441 00:20:14.319 --> 00:20:16.200 I don't think that you have if you've paid to 442 00:20:16.240 --> 00:20:16.720 be there. 443 00:20:17.359 --> 00:20:21.119 Well, if you paid, you have a limited license that 444 00:20:21.119 --> 00:20:24.720 that dictates your right to be there. But that doesn't 445 00:20:24.759 --> 00:20:27.920 mean that you have a property right that can't be 446 00:20:28.240 --> 00:20:32.240 you know, trespassed against or something. I mean, I don't know, 447 00:20:32.359 --> 00:20:35.279 Maybe I'm wrong about it, but every lease. 448 00:20:35.119 --> 00:20:39.480 Every lease that I've signed, always has specific all tails 449 00:20:39.519 --> 00:20:42.400 about parking and the remedies thereof. 450 00:20:42.680 --> 00:20:46.119 Now, if they if limited, that's no different than you 451 00:20:46.200 --> 00:20:49.160 pay in the toll to go on a lot downtown. 452 00:20:49.240 --> 00:20:52.359 It's a limited license to use that property. 453 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:52.720 Correct. 454 00:20:52.839 --> 00:20:56.799 All I'm saying is that doesn't create some you know, 455 00:20:57.240 --> 00:21:00.519 holy zone that they can't they can't walk across because 456 00:21:00.519 --> 00:21:04.359 that's now Ken's parking spot or Dmitri's parking spot. 457 00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:05.079 You know. 458 00:21:05.240 --> 00:21:07.480 I just think that you have a right to park there, 459 00:21:07.480 --> 00:21:08.319 But it doesn't. 460 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:11.640 It doesn't in any way foreclose the owner's right to 461 00:21:11.720 --> 00:21:14.680 police that property or to take action against you if 462 00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:15.880 you violated their terms. 463 00:21:15.920 --> 00:21:18.480 Right, I agree, That's what I was saying. It's always 464 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:21.440 in every lease I've signed. Those provisions are. 465 00:21:21.319 --> 00:21:25.240 There yet almost everywhere, right, I mean, like for real? Hey, Alex, 466 00:21:25.279 --> 00:21:26.039 what's your question? 467 00:21:29.880 --> 00:21:30.160 Hello? 468 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:30.480 Mark? 469 00:21:30.519 --> 00:21:31.640 Are you doing I'm doing. 470 00:21:31.400 --> 00:21:32.519 Good, Alex? What's going on? 471 00:21:32.640 --> 00:21:32.839 Man? 472 00:21:35.359 --> 00:21:37.480 Okay? So, since you're used to have. 473 00:21:37.680 --> 00:21:40.240 A tire shop, right, yes, sir, I have a. 474 00:21:40.319 --> 00:21:45.319 Question about so when you replace a tire on a vehicle, 475 00:21:47.200 --> 00:21:49.759 it's a hard not to scratch the rim. 476 00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:53.160 Oh man, I'm saying. Oh, I'll tell you all about that. 477 00:21:53.319 --> 00:21:55.720 Let me take this break. That's a I wonder if 478 00:21:55.759 --> 00:21:59.160 he scratched somebody's rim, being the caller, Alex, or if 479 00:21:59.160 --> 00:22:03.480 his rim got But I, unfortunately have bought a lot 480 00:22:03.480 --> 00:22:06.440 of rims in my life and not for my own car. 481 00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:09.400 Three oh three seven one, three eight, two five five. 482 00:22:09.640 --> 00:22:12.960 We're gonna have two lines open three oh three Martino, Alex, 483 00:22:13.000 --> 00:22:15.000 I promise I'll bring you up right after this. 484 00:22:21.240 --> 00:22:24.480 Go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel roofing 485 00:22:24.599 --> 00:22:27.240 dot com. You don't pay a cent until you're content. 486 00:22:30.599 --> 00:22:33.799 Time for an insurance check up free, no obligation. In comparison, 487 00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:37.519 call compass insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens 488 00:22:37.519 --> 00:22:40.240 of insurance companies. Find out now three oh three seven 489 00:22:40.359 --> 00:22:43.160 seven to one help you'll think you're his only customer 490 00:22:43.200 --> 00:22:45.440 when you choose Frank durand the real estate man dot 491 00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:48.759 Com to list your home with Remax Alliance three oh 492 00:22:48.839 --> 00:22:54.319 three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. 493 00:22:54.839 --> 00:22:57.680 All right, three zero three seven one three eight two 494 00:22:57.759 --> 00:22:59.960 five five, you need some help. I also have a 495 00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:04.599 course attorney. Any auto accident, I have our personal injury attorney, 496 00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:07.319 John Fuller with us. He also does the show occasionally Forced, 497 00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:10.079 which is really cool. Let me get back to Alex, 498 00:23:10.480 --> 00:23:13.960 but three h three Martino. So Alex, I'm just curious. 499 00:23:14.119 --> 00:23:16.279 Is it your rim that got scratched or did you 500 00:23:16.359 --> 00:23:17.440 scratch your rim or what? 501 00:23:20.039 --> 00:23:21.559 Yeah, it's my vehicle. 502 00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:24.079 So I took it to the dealer yesterday because I 503 00:23:24.079 --> 00:23:26.759 had a puncher on the tire, yep, and they have 504 00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:28.240 to replace the tire. 505 00:23:28.440 --> 00:23:29.240 Is it brand new? 506 00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:34.000 Vehicle has less than eight thousand miles, The tires are pristine. 507 00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:38.559 So after they replace the tire, I look at the 508 00:23:38.680 --> 00:23:40.400 rim and it's all scratch. 509 00:23:41.480 --> 00:23:42.440 And what did they say? 510 00:23:42.440 --> 00:23:45.160 Did you bring it back to him? 511 00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:45.759 Well? 512 00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:47.720 It was it was nice, So I didn't see it 513 00:23:47.799 --> 00:23:51.759 until this morning when I looked at the vehicle. So yeah, 514 00:23:51.759 --> 00:23:53.160 I'm gonna I'm gonna call him back. 515 00:23:53.200 --> 00:23:56.000 I would, honestly, I would drive down there. It's if 516 00:23:56.039 --> 00:23:57.599 I looked at it, I could tell you if the 517 00:23:57.680 --> 00:24:00.160 tire machine did it. But when you say it's scratch, 518 00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:03.000 what does that mean? Is it scratched like around the 519 00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:07.599 entire radius or what is it? Where is it scratched? 520 00:24:09.079 --> 00:24:12.519 Yeah, I can tell as a machine admit it because 521 00:24:12.839 --> 00:24:17.880 so it's on the list. Yeah, exactly, it's perfinitely perfectly 522 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:18.759 round all the. 523 00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:22.119 Way around, all the way around. 524 00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:22.480 Yeah. 525 00:24:22.519 --> 00:24:25.960 So here's probably what happened. They use the wrong duckhead 526 00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:29.440 and what the duckhead is. So you have your tire 527 00:24:29.559 --> 00:24:33.079 machine and you basically have a duckhead that's either steal 528 00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:36.640 or plastic or graphite depending on the application. 529 00:24:37.319 --> 00:24:38.759 The worst thing that can happen. 530 00:24:38.799 --> 00:24:42.359 They use this steal one for really big truck tires, 531 00:24:43.400 --> 00:24:46.079 not nice rim truck tires, but steel wheel I mean 532 00:24:46.160 --> 00:24:48.960 big truck tires like you know, twenty two fives or 533 00:24:49.079 --> 00:24:52.359 nineteen five something like that, and they use they accidentally 534 00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:55.519 forget to take this steel duckhead off. Then they get 535 00:24:55.519 --> 00:24:58.480 a nice aluminum rim or a rim in there, and man, 536 00:24:58.559 --> 00:25:01.200 it can do exactly what you do. So I don't 537 00:25:01.200 --> 00:25:03.599 think you're going to have any argument. What they'll do 538 00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:05.559 is they're going to want to send that rim out 539 00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:08.799 and basically get it repaired. And most of the time 540 00:25:08.839 --> 00:25:11.720 that's fine. I mean, if they gouged it too deep, 541 00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:14.160 you can't get it repaired, they'd have to replace it. 542 00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:17.119 But they'll probably send it out it to get it refurbished. 543 00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:24.160 Okay, Okay, what dealer was it? 544 00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:26.599 It was the dealer over here in Loveland. 545 00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:29.519 Okay, yeah, well, yeah, that's it. 546 00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:29.680 Man. 547 00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:30.839 It's really not a big deal. 548 00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:31.119 Dude. 549 00:25:31.119 --> 00:25:33.079 They'll take it, uh and they'll take. 550 00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:34.799 Care of it. I wouldn't worry about it, honestly. And 551 00:25:34.839 --> 00:25:36.960 if they don't take care of it, call us back, man. 552 00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:40.240 I mean, we'll call over there. If they don't want 553 00:25:40.279 --> 00:25:41.799 to take care of it. Make sure you send me 554 00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:44.200 a picture of it so I can verify it as 555 00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:47.200 a tire machine. And I assume you haven't been anywhere else. 556 00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:49.400 And it only did it to the one tire, right 557 00:25:50.759 --> 00:25:53.319 or the one wheel that's the only one, because that was. 558 00:25:53.279 --> 00:25:54.160 The only flat y had. 559 00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:56.079 It was the only one. It's not like you bought 560 00:25:56.119 --> 00:25:59.960 tires because usually what happens is people realize they have 561 00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:02.799 the wrong duckhad on pretty quick and it's always on 562 00:26:02.839 --> 00:26:03.599 that first rim. 563 00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:05.720 Then they'll pull that duck head off and put the 564 00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:08.880 right one on. Yeah. 565 00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:11.839 No, And I took a picture right before I dropped 566 00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:13.279 the car of the dealership. 567 00:26:13.720 --> 00:26:15.720 That's smart because I had issues. 568 00:26:16.319 --> 00:26:18.359 I had issues in the past, so I took a 569 00:26:18.359 --> 00:26:19.759 picture of the rim. 570 00:26:20.119 --> 00:26:22.519 And Uh, that's really smart. 571 00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:22.920 I mean I. 572 00:26:24.519 --> 00:26:26.519 Couldn't see it last night because it was dark, but 573 00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:27.640 this morning I can. 574 00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:30.200 Tell Yeah, yep, bring it back. Tell them, but don't 575 00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:32.480 be afraid. If they just want to get it refurbished, 576 00:26:32.519 --> 00:26:33.400 it'll look perfect. 577 00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:38.720 Bro Okay, all right, see Alex appreciate it. 578 00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:41.079 Bye, all right? Three o three seven one three eight 579 00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:43.960 two five five. That's pretty smart to him. Guys, Uh 580 00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:45.799 taking that picture? You know where? 581 00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:48.160 I do that all the time? John, Do you rent 582 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:49.359 cars a lot? 583 00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:50.319 Not too much. 584 00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:53.880 I rent cars all the time, and I always walk 585 00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:54.839 around with the camera. 586 00:26:54.920 --> 00:26:58.680 Yeah I've I'll tell you when I have actually done 587 00:26:58.720 --> 00:27:01.200 that is with U haul truck. Oh yeah, because there 588 00:27:01.319 --> 00:27:04.160 is not a pristine U haul truck in this country. 589 00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:04.920 I don't believe. 590 00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:07.799 No, that hasn't been for the rider's under a tree, 591 00:27:08.119 --> 00:27:11.200 over a curb, into a wall, you know, into a 592 00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:12.920 loading dog whatever they do to them. 593 00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:15.759 They're all banged up. And we had. 594 00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:19.160 One stolen by a homeless guy yesterday on the shelf. 595 00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:21.720 If you don't protect yourself and take all your pictures, 596 00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:24.319 you're subject to get charged for all that stuff. 597 00:27:24.480 --> 00:27:26.000 Yeah, I know it's pretty wild. 598 00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:29.440 Anytime I pick up a rental car, okay, I go 599 00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:31.559 a step further. I'll walk around it with the video 600 00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:33.960 camera on. It only takes a minute. It's no big deal. 601 00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:36.559 And I'll point out every little thing I have just 602 00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:39.640 by talking. Even if it looks like a scratch. I'll say, oh, 603 00:27:39.720 --> 00:27:42.160 in a scratch there, and then here's this and blah 604 00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:44.480 blah blah. But I've never had an issue. We get 605 00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:47.400 a lot of calls where people return it and you know, 606 00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:49.799 four or five months later, their credit card's getting hit. 607 00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:52.559 It's just never happened to me. I've never had it now. 608 00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:55.559 I did back out one time. It was in Texas, 609 00:27:56.839 --> 00:28:00.720 Dallas Fort Worth Airport, man and I stay a hotel 610 00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:02.480 and I'll never do it again. That was on the 611 00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:06.119 airport grounds. So every time you left a hotel to 612 00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:09.759 go somewhere, you had to go through all the gates. Basically, 613 00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:12.559 pay a toll is what it came down to and 614 00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:14.400 I went down the wrong one, so I had to 615 00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:16.279 back out and go over to one where there was 616 00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:19.880 a human and man, I hit this metal. 617 00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:23.680 Gate and scratched the entire car down the side. Oh 618 00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:25.240 my goodness. I couldn't believe it. 619 00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:28.880 But my credit card ended up paying for it ultimately, 620 00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:31.200 so I had coverage on my credit card so I 621 00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:32.839 didn't have to put it through my own insurance. 622 00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:33.279 All right. 623 00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:35.759 Three zero three, seven, one, three eight two five five. 624 00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:39.200 By the way, coming up eleven o'clock or eleven oh five. 625 00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:43.680 John Bolin, he's the attorney that actually sued Colorado over 626 00:28:43.720 --> 00:28:48.480 these seventy five dollars tickets. He's thinking of getting everybody 627 00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:52.759 together and doing basically a class action and going after 628 00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:56.000 the State of Colorado for everybody that's paid the seventy 629 00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:58.880 five bucks. I'm dying to hear this guy's story. Now, 630 00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:02.440 he's an attorney, so it's interesting. Most of us are 631 00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:05.160 not going to fight it to that level and sue 632 00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:08.359 the State of Colorado. That's gotta that's gotta take a 633 00:29:08.359 --> 00:29:10.839 lot of time, right John, I mean, just sue a state. 634 00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:12.240 God love him. 635 00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:16.039 Well, we're gonna see what happens. Three oh three seven 636 00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:17.039 one three talk. 637 00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:26.279 Go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing 638 00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:27.000 dot com. 639 00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:27.680 You don't pay a. 640 00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:34.160 Cent until you're contenth time for an insurance check up free, 641 00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:38.279 no obligation comparison call Compass Insurance Paying too much your 642 00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:41.240 coverage at dozens of insurance companies find out now three 643 00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:43.839 oh three seven seven to one help. You'll think you're 644 00:29:43.880 --> 00:29:46.400 his only customer when you choose Frank durand the real 645 00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:49.480 estate Man dot com to list your home with Remax 646 00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:52.519 Alliance three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. 647 00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:58.480 All right, three oh three seven one three eight two 648 00:29:58.480 --> 00:30:03.720 five five. Hey Jim, what is going on with you 649 00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:05.160 and Champion Windows? 650 00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:07.119 All right? 651 00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:09.039 So we're coming up in June. It's going to be 652 00:30:09.079 --> 00:30:11.000 two years since they started the job. 653 00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:12.799 All right. 654 00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:14.799 I have contacted the number of times. 655 00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:15.480 It's amazing. 656 00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:19.960 They replaced windows and then a signing last door. 657 00:30:20.200 --> 00:30:20.359 Right. 658 00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:23.440 They left my home a total work With the first 659 00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:25.519 crew that came in here, they did a lot of 660 00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:28.960 dammage inside. They broke glass all over my all over 661 00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:31.960 the house inside. They there are class chips on the 662 00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:35.039 beds every day. They even used what we use our 663 00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:37.720 vacuum cleaner to clean up after themselves, which damny's the 664 00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:42.960 vacuum cleaner. I mean, just just incredible. Sent another crew in, 665 00:30:43.079 --> 00:30:45.359 they took pictures. I took pictures of it all, sent 666 00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:49.359 it all into them, and I mean it was just 667 00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:54.000 just just horrible. The you know, the service, the workmanship, everything. 668 00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:56.640 And the other crew came in, they saw what they'd 669 00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:58.279 done and they agreed that It's like, you know, this 670 00:30:58.359 --> 00:31:00.480 is horrible. This is just amazing. I can't believe that 671 00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:04.920 they left you this way and they fixed what they could. 672 00:31:05.319 --> 00:31:08.960 They're supposed to replace a screen on a sliding glass door, 673 00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:11.599 it's the wrong type, the wrong color, and so forth. 674 00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:15.319 They contacted me other times. One guy came out still 675 00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:18.680 didn't have the right one. They still want to the 676 00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:21.759 money in order to finish it, but it's like, I'm 677 00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:23.599 not going to pay that additional amount. 678 00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:25.720 And how much do you owe? How much do you 679 00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:26.839 owe them? 680 00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:29.039 Little over three thousand dollars. 681 00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:30.960 And are they saying that's the reason why they're not 682 00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:34.599 finishing this warranty work and replacing the wrong items stuff 683 00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:35.000 like that. 684 00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:39.799 No, no, no, because I've talked to them and they said, 685 00:31:39.799 --> 00:31:42.680 oh yeah, we'll get somebody out and they didn't and 686 00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:45.680 then they said, well, I said, can you connect you 687 00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:50.000 with the manager? And that hasn't happened either. 688 00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:53.920 You know, ever since, ever since Great Day Improvements brought 689 00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:55.599 to these guys, I think it was twenty one or 690 00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:59.359 twenty two. I've never seen a company in my life 691 00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:02.599 go to hell so fast. I just haven't seen it. 692 00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:06.359 There was a period of time last quarter or actually 693 00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:08.839 not last quarter, but the end of last year twenty 694 00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:12.039 twenty four. I mean, we got so many complaints on him. 695 00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:14.720 It was almost weekly at one point. And what I 696 00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:17.440 learned is there's really no one to complain to except 697 00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:20.799 for the guy that you basically worked with who either 698 00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:23.799 sold you the windows or was like your project manager. 699 00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:26.240 Is that still the case or has that changed? 700 00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:27.599 Well? 701 00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:31.039 No, I mean I contacted the sales then and about 702 00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:34.079 the initially right after this, that first group came in 703 00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:37.039 and they destroyed everything all he said, I'll take care 704 00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:40.039 of it. Diver heard back from him. So I contacted 705 00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:42.599 the service manager at the time. That guy's last name 706 00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:46.880 was Trojan, and he basically you know, didn't answer, didn't 707 00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:49.160 answer phone calls. He called me one time after that 708 00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:51.160 to say, hey, who's the last guy. 709 00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:55.079 You talked to over there, Jill. 710 00:32:56.480 --> 00:32:59.599 Man, if I talked to anybody, it was, it was 711 00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:01.720 somebody in their Listen. 712 00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:03.559 Here's what I want. Let me put you on hold. 713 00:33:03.559 --> 00:33:05.000 I'm gonna keep you on, but I want you to 714 00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:09.119 give Kelly a name of someone that we can call. 715 00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:11.279 I want to put a deputy on it right away 716 00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:13.599 to see if they can call over the break. And 717 00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:16.920 I want to figure out, uh, what what's going on? 718 00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:19.240 I mean, and if they don't want to answer us, 719 00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:21.960 I mean, we can you know what we can do? Dragon, 720 00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:25.440 I let that guy talk for about a minute without 721 00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:31.119 interrupting on purpose. I generally don't do that. I would 722 00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:34.319 like if you could to put together a quick thirty 723 00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:40.799 second commercial four Champion using this caller's minute long speech. 724 00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:43.440 Can you do that during the break? You get the idea. 725 00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:48.039 So let's see. Let's see if Champion will talk to 726 00:33:48.119 --> 00:33:50.759 us three oh three seven, one, three eight. 727 00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:53.200 Two five five. Don't forget John Bolan coming up. 728 00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:56.440 We're gonna be talking about those seventy five dollars tickets. 729 00:33:56.680 --> 00:34:00.119 He actually took Colorado State to court and won. He 730 00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:01.720 got his seventy five bucks back. 731 00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:09.760 Hold on, go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer 732 00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:12.760 Excel Roofing dot com. You don't pay a cent until 733 00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:19.280 you're content. Time for an insurance check up free, no obligation. 734 00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:23.239 Comparison call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at 735 00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:26.000 dozens of insurance companies find out now three oh three 736 00:34:26.199 --> 00:34:28.320 seven to seven to one help. You'll think you're his 737 00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:31.119 only customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate 738 00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:34.400 Man dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance 739 00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:36.960 three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. 740 00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:43.000 Ripped of. 741 00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:47.760 Need who you don't have? 742 00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:52.440 Run as we can. 743 00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:55.000 Shooter's gonna help. 744 00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:55.639 Come. 745 00:34:57.199 --> 00:34:59.360 This is the Troubleshooter Show. 746 00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:04.239 Yeah, Tom Martine, Welcome my friends to the only Chauvis Guy. 747 00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:07.639 You're here to solve problems, answer questions, take complaints. We 748 00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:09.519 got a lot of cooking this hour. But here's the 749 00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:12.599 bottom line. If you have been ripped off for taking 750 00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:14.440 advantage of today is a great day. 751 00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:16.920 I have got three deputies. 752 00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:19.719 In the room. I also have attorney John Fuller. He's 753 00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:22.840 also a co host here. And here's the bottom line. 754 00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:27.280 We love helping. If you've been ripped off, bad contractor 755 00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:32.400 bad experience, bad Dennis, bad landlord bad anything. We have 756 00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:36.199 recovered over three hundred million dollars in the last forty 757 00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:40.679 years right here in Denver, Colorado. Actually, Tom, forty five years. 758 00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:43.920 You ready for this? Three h three Martino, that's the number. 759 00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:46.880 Now I have one line open now, John Bolan, I 760 00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:50.599 am so interested in this. Kelly sent me an article. 761 00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:53.119 It was a nine News. I'm gonna bring John up. John. 762 00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:55.280 I'll introduce you a little better in a second. But 763 00:35:55.679 --> 00:36:00.159 Kelly sent me this article, guys, and it was on 764 00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:03.000 nine News, or maybe it was Fox thirty one. I forget, 765 00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:05.320 but anyhow, I click on it. And here's a little 766 00:36:05.320 --> 00:36:09.039 short story about John Bolan. We have had so many 767 00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:13.159 calls John right to the show in the past, I'd 768 00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:16.840 say six months that you couldn't believe it of people 769 00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:20.079 saying I had to exit out of one of these 770 00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:26.119 express lanes because I almost missed my exit, or I 771 00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:30.440 accidentally swerved because someone was coming over and I swerved 772 00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:33.840 past the double lines. And you know, everybody's got an excuse. 773 00:36:33.880 --> 00:36:37.039 So I'll say that everybody's got an excuse of why 774 00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:39.960 they did it. Did you guys know Martino actually got one, 775 00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:43.800 so Tom actually got one as well. And Tom claimed 776 00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:46.960 up and down. I never went over the double lines. 777 00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:52.440 But interestingly enough, I get all his mail because I'm 778 00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:54.320 not even going to go into why, but I get it. 779 00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:58.960 So I opened it up and there was a picture. 780 00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:00.719 Of Tom over the line over the life. 781 00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:04.280 So everybody says they don't do it, but what John 782 00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:04.920 Boland did? 783 00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:06.639 And John, you're an attorney, right. 784 00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:08.679 Yes, sure am. 785 00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:09.719 I love this. 786 00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:11.599 I absolutely love this. 787 00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:15.119 Why don't you tell us your story on how and 788 00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:17.599 what infraction to begin with? 789 00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:19.119 What happened and where was it? 790 00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:22.960 By the way, Yeah, yeah, I got one of these 791 00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:27.239 notices of civil penalties in the mail from something that 792 00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:32.239 happened back in May last year, one seventy. I was 793 00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:35.159 going north down on I twenty five to get on 794 00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:39.639 westbound Sea for seventy and you know there there's a flyover, yep. 795 00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:43.480 And the entrance to the tolane is actually on the flyover, 796 00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:46.840 So if you miss that, then you've got to take 797 00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:50.119 the rest of that flyover and the roads eventually come 798 00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:52.840 together next to each other and you can hop in 799 00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:54.320 the to lane there. 800 00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:54.920 Yep. 801 00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:59.480 I can picture it perfectly, and I've actually done that 802 00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:00.559 same thing. 803 00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:04.320 Yeah, you know, I was just in the car distracted 804 00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:08.119 enough by my kids probably to have missed the GPS 805 00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:10.599 instructions that I needed to go lest and get in 806 00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:13.840 that thing. And so I just hopped in as soon 807 00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:16.840 as the lanes came together, which was over the double 808 00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:20.280 white line. Like you say, I have lots of us 809 00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:24.400 do it. And you know I intended to pay the toll, 810 00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:25.719 and I did pay the toll. I've got one of 811 00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:30.360 those transponders on the window, and I paid the toll 812 00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:32.719 and I went on my way. And so I got 813 00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:35.320 this notice of civil penalty in the mail that I 814 00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:41.480 committed a safety violation, yes white line. And I thought 815 00:38:41.519 --> 00:38:46.119 to myself, Okay, I mean that sounds legit. It might 816 00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:50.519 have been the wrong thing to cross that double white line. 817 00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:52.360 So I looked up the statute. 818 00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:54.679 Is the statute, I'm curious? 819 00:38:56.039 --> 00:39:01.280 Yeah, the statute is in the Colorado Advised Statues. 820 00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:01.639 Yep. 821 00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:06.079 The number here is forty three dash four eight. 822 00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:12.280 Eight forty three dash four dash what eight eight eight eight? 823 00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:13.280 All right? 824 00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:15.159 Keep going, man, I wanted to pull it up to. 825 00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:19.119 Yeah, yeah, pull it up. That's the statue to theay 826 00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:22.039 cite in their notice of civil penalty that says I 827 00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:26.519 committed a safety violation. But that statute says that they're 828 00:39:26.519 --> 00:39:31.480 empowered send out these civil penalties or total eVision. 829 00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:35.840 Not for crossing I see what you're saying, Not for 830 00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:39.719 crossing the double lines, but for someone that maybe doesn't 831 00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:46.559 have an account and they use the express lane and 832 00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:49.840 their license plates picked up by the camera and they 833 00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:52.559 get charged or whoever gets charged it owns a vehicle 834 00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:53.400 and they don't pay it. 835 00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:55.480 That's what the civil penalty is for. 836 00:39:56.960 --> 00:39:57.280 Sure. 837 00:39:57.400 --> 00:39:59.679 Or if they're getting the lane and then they see 838 00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:03.559 the little toll taker device coming up and they hop 839 00:40:03.599 --> 00:40:05.599 out of the lane to miss that and get back 840 00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:06.119 in right. 841 00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:07.960 Yeah, yeah, to avoidable avision. 842 00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:10.559 Sure, And that would be crossing the line in order 843 00:40:10.599 --> 00:40:11.360 to commit. 844 00:40:11.079 --> 00:40:11.719 To all avision. 845 00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:12.559 Yeah, it would be. 846 00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:16.239 But I didn't do that. I paid the toll. I 847 00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:18.280 wanted to pay the toll. I just got in a 848 00:40:18.280 --> 00:40:21.840 little late. In fact, I got less than I paid 849 00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:23.719 for because I didn't travel the lane the whole time. 850 00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:23.920 You know. 851 00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:27.079 Well, so what we hear though, is if something happens 852 00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:29.679 like that, and I want to be very clear on this, 853 00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:33.639 you got charged through your transponder for that toll that 854 00:40:33.880 --> 00:40:37.840 section that you ended up in, and then you exited 855 00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:40.639 because you didn't want to, of course, pay the toll 856 00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:42.800 in the next section, so you got out before the 857 00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:46.079 next section. But they billed you not only for the 858 00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:49.519 toll you paid that, but they also were trying to 859 00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:52.159 get seventy five bucks because you exited early. 860 00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:56.239 Yeah, that's right. I actually took two sections and paid 861 00:40:56.239 --> 00:40:58.239 for both of them, and then I hopped out where 862 00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:02.320 I wanted to go, and I still got this notice 863 00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:03.960 of civil penalty for seventy five bucks. 864 00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:06.719 Now somewhere on that notice, because I've seen plenty of them, 865 00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:09.360 they are like, you can go to this website and 866 00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:13.840 upload any evidence you have and actually get a hearing. 867 00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:14.840 Did you do that? 868 00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:17.079 I did. 869 00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:20.119 They've got a two step process. The first is, you know, 870 00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:23.599 just submitting by text on their website, I think, or 871 00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:27.320 by email. Here's why I think there's a problem. Yeah, 872 00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:29.480 and I was denied within forty minutes. 873 00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:32.880 Oh my god. So it's probably an auto response. 874 00:41:33.440 --> 00:41:34.760 Yeah, something like that. 875 00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:37.480 That's crazy, Literally in forty minutes. And what did you 876 00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:40.000 put in that first thing? Like, hey, I paid the 877 00:41:40.039 --> 00:41:42.119 toll and I wanted to get out, or I mean, 878 00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:43.719 what did you put? 879 00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:46.960 Yeah, I put the same thing that I'm saying to 880 00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:49.519 you right now, which is that got it patute? And 881 00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:52.320 the regulation supporting it is for toll eVision. But I 882 00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:54.239 paid the toll, so I can't be evading it. 883 00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:57.199 Yeah, So then what they declined it in forty minutes? 884 00:41:57.239 --> 00:41:58.039 What's step two? 885 00:41:59.519 --> 00:41:59.679 Yes? 886 00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:02.320 Up to In that same email where they decline it, 887 00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:05.679 they say you can have a hearing and administrative hearing 888 00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:08.000 and if you want to set one up, here's a link, 889 00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:10.280 and you set it up and you go to a 890 00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:15.840 virtual hearing like zoom A yeah, like zoom, and this 891 00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:18.840 is with an administrative hearing officer. 892 00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:21.679 Hey, John, let me let me John, let me ask 893 00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:23.360 you something real quick before we go on to this 894 00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:26.679 second one. Isn't there a time frame you have to 895 00:42:26.760 --> 00:42:29.320 follow too? So, in other words, if they send the 896 00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:32.239 notice out and you don't request the hearing an X 897 00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:35.000 amount of days, don't you give up the right to 898 00:42:35.039 --> 00:42:36.599 the hearing or something like that? 899 00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:38.679 Yes? 900 00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:41.280 I believe that they stated a time frame that you've got. 901 00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:45.719 To so you were within all these time frames. Yep, Okay, 902 00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:48.440 I'm sorry, continue on, Yeah. 903 00:42:48.679 --> 00:42:53.320 No problem. So this is a hearing on zoom with 904 00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:57.519 what's called an administrative hearing officer, not a judge in 905 00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:01.519 our state system. And these people are lawyers who are 906 00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:04.599 employees of the tolling authority. 907 00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:08.360 So it sounds like the worst setup ever. It's like 908 00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:11.480 the mafia, keep going, Yeah. 909 00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:17.239 Exactly, it's their tooling authority itself deciding whether it is wrong. 910 00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:20.599 Nobody impartial think about that. It's crazy. 911 00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:23.360 No one impartial, like inn a magistrate or a judge 912 00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:24.039 or anybody. 913 00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:24.760 That's crazy. 914 00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:28.360 Yeah, and you have to pay thirty dollars in order 915 00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:29.679 to have this hearing as well. 916 00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:34.159 Oh my god, so now you're paying half half of 917 00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:35.159 what the ticket is. 918 00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:36.760 How long was the hearing? 919 00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:44.119 Not long, you know, probably fifteen minutes, depending on how 920 00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:46.960 much you want to present your own favor, which I 921 00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:50.320 did present. I just presented the evidence that I had 922 00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:53.559 paid the toll that day. Yeah, and that was it. 923 00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:57.199 And I made my argument the same argument, and the 924 00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:01.960 administrange hearing officer rejected it hands and that was the 925 00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:02.440 end of it. 926 00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:06.000 And what happens, I mean, do they do they let 927 00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:09.239 you know at that moment that you lost or do 928 00:44:09.400 --> 00:44:11.760 they let you wait a couple of weeks and tell 929 00:44:11.800 --> 00:44:13.760 you like they're actually thinking about it. 930 00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:17.599 Yeah, they let me know that moment you ruled against 931 00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:18.280 me right there? 932 00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:19.159 And what was there? 933 00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:22.840 What was their reasoning when you tell them, Look, here's 934 00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:27.119 the statute and it says this toll evasion. And as 935 00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:29.960 you can see by this statement, I assume that I 936 00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:30.880 paid the toll. 937 00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:32.360 What do they say? 938 00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:38.920 So the she was referring to the regulation And I 939 00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:41.360 can give you the citation for that regulation as well 940 00:44:41.400 --> 00:44:41.880 if you like. 941 00:44:41.960 --> 00:44:42.719 Yeah, I would like it. 942 00:44:44.079 --> 00:44:48.280 Yeah, it's two CCR six O six. 943 00:44:48.599 --> 00:44:51.480 Dash one and get what's the gist of it? 944 00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:58.320 And this is how the power to High Performance Transportation 945 00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:03.599 enterprises the tolling authority. This is how they define toll evasion. 946 00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:07.559 Oh and inside of that, how do they define it 947 00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:09.239 crossing over the double lines? 948 00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:11.159 They do. 949 00:45:11.199 --> 00:45:15.599 They've got a section here that says alevision is, among 950 00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:18.599 other things, failing to pay a toll or avoiding a 951 00:45:18.599 --> 00:45:22.639 toll by entering or exiting the lane other than other 952 00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:25.519 designated access point and are. 953 00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:30.599 Swerving between the lanes, which they call weaving. And that's 954 00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:32.719 the scenario that we just talked about, right, Yeah, that's 955 00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:36.039 exactly so they can skip the toll. 956 00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:39.239 Yeah, well that I would think that was the intent 957 00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:42.360 of that law. I don't think the intent was what 958 00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:45.239 happened to you where you pay the toll and you 959 00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:48.719 get out because on that place at C four seventy 960 00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:51.719 and twenty five, and I don't care what direction you're coming, 961 00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:54.920 you can easily get in that left lane on accident 962 00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:56.199 or someone might do it. 963 00:45:56.440 --> 00:45:58.199 And if you notice it the long. 964 00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:01.119 Last time, I mean there's a medium of cement about 965 00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:03.800 two feet right there. So what did you do after that? 966 00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:07.760 After the administrative hearing? 967 00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:10.039 Yeah? 968 00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:12.679 Yeah, So if you lose at the administrative hearing and 969 00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:17.480 you still want to pursue your additional rights, they have 970 00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:21.880 some information on the website saying how you appeal to 971 00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:27.559 the county court the county where this where this all happened. 972 00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:31.239 So Douglas County, I assume Douglas County. So you go 973 00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:34.119 to Douglas County, go ahead, yep. 974 00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:39.280 Yeah, You've got to file a petition what they call it, 975 00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:43.000 which is essentially complaint to start a whole lawsuit in 976 00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:43.719 the county court. 977 00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:47.679 Yeah, because basically government immunity and other issues. When you 978 00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:51.360 go after a municipality or a county in your case, 979 00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:53.599 or even a state, you have to give them notice. 980 00:46:54.840 --> 00:46:55.079 Yep. 981 00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:58.039 So you give them, you give them the proper notice 982 00:46:58.079 --> 00:47:00.360 and I assume you literally file lawsted. 983 00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:01.400 Let me put you on hold. 984 00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:03.599 I got to take this break, but man, I love 985 00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:06.920 it so now think of all these hoops and he's 986 00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:10.840 an attorney. How many normal well when I say normal people, 987 00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:13.880 how many non attorneys would ever go through this? 988 00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:14.920 It's guys like this. 989 00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:15.480 I love. 990 00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:17.119 Hold on, John, hold on. 991 00:47:23.239 --> 00:47:26.480 Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel Roofing 992 00:47:26.599 --> 00:47:31.679 dot com. 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I want to jump right back to John. 1004 00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:02.559 And he was great enough to come on the show. 1005 00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:05.480 He's an attorney. He got a seventy five dollars ticket 1006 00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:07.760 for crossing the double lines out there. 1007 00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:09.480 He actually paid. 1008 00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:13.440 He actually ended up because he had a transponder, of course, 1009 00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:16.480 paying for that section E road, and then he got 1010 00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:19.079 out went through the double lines. Now granted you're not 1011 00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:21.280 supposed to do that, John, I did want to ask 1012 00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:21.840 you something. 1013 00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:24.320 Were you exiting Quebec right there? 1014 00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:29.119 No, I went all the way to Broadway. I was 1015 00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:32.920 headed over to see a Cranberry's cover band. Got it 1016 00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:35.760 my wife's fortieth birthday with a bunch of friends down 1017 00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:36.480 at the pro. 1018 00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:39.760 Screwing nice cool. So I get you there. 1019 00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:43.920 So basically you went through the first part is where 1020 00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:46.480 you go on Colorado's website or whatever the website is 1021 00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:49.440 and say, hey, you know, here's the deal. And then 1022 00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:52.199 you went through a hearing over zoom or whatever the 1023 00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:56.440 state uses, and you lost that. Then you actually told 1024 00:48:56.440 --> 00:48:59.000 Douglas County you were going to file a lawsuit about this, 1025 00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:01.559 and then you actually filed a lawsuit. 1026 00:49:03.400 --> 00:49:05.360 Yeah, that's right, And you hit the nail on the head. 1027 00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:08.320 I mean, this is not the this is not an 1028 00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:12.360 easy process for a layperson to follow. 1029 00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:13.800 It's ridiculous. 1030 00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:17.880 And what's even more ridiculous on that note, John, from 1031 00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:20.599 what I've learned from you, because I haven't talked to 1032 00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:24.239 anybody that actually went through the second thing you went 1033 00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:26.440 through where you've got to pay thirty bucks for the hearing. 1034 00:49:26.800 --> 00:49:29.400 But you said, I mean you spend fifteen minutes, and 1035 00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:33.840 they're like nope. And these people basically work for the 1036 00:49:33.880 --> 00:49:37.400 same people they gave you the ticket. But so what 1037 00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:40.400 happens when you get in front of a real judge 1038 00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:43.280 in fact, who's there for the state or for the county? 1039 00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:44.519 Who actually is it? 1040 00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:50.559 So the Attorney General's Office showed up to defend the 1041 00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:51.679 tolling authority. 1042 00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:52.760 I bet they hated this. 1043 00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:55.679 They're thinking, oh, man, if they lose this, they're going 1044 00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:58.840 to have everybody out there trying to fight like this 1045 00:49:58.920 --> 00:49:59.400 guy is. 1046 00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:04.320 Yeah, I mean there's lots of folks who are unhappy 1047 00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:07.280 about these tickets. I've heard from over five hundred myself 1048 00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:14.320 since that article came out Monday afternoon. Yeah, and so 1049 00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:17.559 the Attorney General's office is the are the folks handling this? 1050 00:50:18.119 --> 00:50:20.599 That's one of the difficulties. It's pretty difficult enough to 1051 00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:23.440 figure out how to write your complaint and get what's 1052 00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:26.239 called the summons together, get this stuff on file with 1053 00:50:26.320 --> 00:50:28.800 the court, but you also have to serve people to 1054 00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:29.719 bring them into court. 1055 00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:30.119 Yep. 1056 00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:32.840 And I'm sure your listeners have heard of that. All 1057 00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:35.079 that means is that you have to have a responsible 1058 00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:38.280 adult physically hand the papers to the person. 1059 00:50:39.880 --> 00:50:40.079 Yeah. 1060 00:50:41.239 --> 00:50:44.480 Yeah, And we do that because then the person we 1061 00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:47.400 know that they got the papers, and also it impresses 1062 00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:49.199 on them. And this is a big deal because people 1063 00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:52.000 don't just walk up and hand you legal papers every day. 1064 00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:54.320 Did they make you actually did you have to go 1065 00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:56.199 through discovery? 1066 00:50:57.599 --> 00:51:00.000 I know we did not have to do any discovery 1067 00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:02.400 in my case. I kept it pretty simple, got it. 1068 00:51:03.119 --> 00:51:04.960 If you needed some of that, you could get it. 1069 00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:07.320 Yeah, but you didn't need anything. I mean, you've got 1070 00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:09.239 everything right there in the statute itself. 1071 00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:11.079 Yeah, so I get it. 1072 00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:15.400 So what was I assume you get up there and 1073 00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:19.000 you're basically saying the same thing you've said three times 1074 00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:22.039 at this point, and you have lost every step of 1075 00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:22.360 the way. 1076 00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:25.480 What was different with the judge? 1077 00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:28.199 I mean, really, in your own mind, why did the 1078 00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:33.199 judge find that the state was wrong or the county 1079 00:51:33.280 --> 00:51:36.480 or whatever it is having What did the judge see 1080 00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:40.000 differently than everybody else you dealt with before? 1081 00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:45.039 Well, you know the other processes I would label a 1082 00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:49.119 rubber stamp because they're employed by the toiling authority, and 1083 00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:52.400 their job is to unless it's a pretty clear cut 1084 00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:55.760 thing like I wasn't driving or the car was stolen. Yeah, no, 1085 00:51:55.880 --> 00:51:59.400 their job is to let the ticket stand. But the judge, 1086 00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:03.360 you know, this is an independent process. He's not employed 1087 00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:06.000 by those folks, so he's taking an independent look at things. 1088 00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:10.360 And you know, I felt that I was right about 1089 00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:13.719 what the statue says and about what the regulations say, 1090 00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:17.000 and that what matters here is that no one was 1091 00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:20.599 trying to evade a toll. Yeah, so the judge ultimately 1092 00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:21.199 agreed with me. 1093 00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:25.960 Did he agree that the statute doesn't fit the crime? 1094 00:52:26.199 --> 00:52:29.320 In other words, like if you get arrested for murder 1095 00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:32.480 and you were jaywalking, I mean, that's just an absurdity. 1096 00:52:32.679 --> 00:52:34.559 Did he kind of look at it like that, like 1097 00:52:34.920 --> 00:52:38.800 it wasn't toll evasion? Or was he talking about just 1098 00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:43.880 your I guess my question is was he talking about 1099 00:52:43.960 --> 00:52:49.920 just your specific issue or is he setting precedent that 1100 00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:52.679 they can't do this to anybody and it's going to 1101 00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:54.239 change the rules. 1102 00:52:55.400 --> 00:53:00.199 Yeah, he was talking about my specific case. And you know, 1103 00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:05.559 the word precedent has two different meanings. One is is 1104 00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:08.239 there any other court that has to do exactly what 1105 00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:11.840 this judge did because they're bound under the law to 1106 00:53:11.920 --> 00:53:14.280 do it. Like when we talk about the United States 1107 00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:15.039 Supreme Court. 1108 00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:16.599 Sure, all the. 1109 00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:19.519 Lower courts are bound to do what they say, and 1110 00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:23.599 that's not the case with the Colorado County Court got it. 1111 00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:30.719 But is it precedent in the sense that there's. 1112 00:53:29.559 --> 00:53:31.880 A ruling out there that was in the favor of 1113 00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:35.559 the poor guy that got seventy five dollars ticket. I mean, 1114 00:53:35.559 --> 00:53:36.599 that's the bottom line. 1115 00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:39.760 Yeah, and I will call that persuasive. 1116 00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:44.639 Now, let me ask you. I was thinking, because I 1117 00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:47.199 heard either I either read or saw it in one 1118 00:53:47.239 --> 00:53:50.199 of the interviews I saw with you, that you're thinking 1119 00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:54.280 about a class action and that's kind of an amazing 1120 00:53:54.400 --> 00:53:57.760 thing to do for two reasons. One, it would punish 1121 00:53:57.840 --> 00:53:59.719 them for doing this if they're not supposed to be 1122 00:53:59.800 --> 00:54:02.920 doing it. Or it would make them define and do 1123 00:54:03.079 --> 00:54:07.079 this in a better way to where they're within their law. 1124 00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:09.679 I mean, it's obvious a judge is saying what they 1125 00:54:09.719 --> 00:54:10.559 did was horrible. 1126 00:54:10.840 --> 00:54:13.280 So I mean, how serious are you on that? 1127 00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:17.000 Because if there's a thousand people right now and then 1128 00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:21.320 after our podcast, you know that's fifty thousand people a 1129 00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:24.679 month plus our YouTube and our Facebook and everything. I mean, 1130 00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:27.639 if you if you literally got five hundred, one thousand 1131 00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:30.719 people that had these tickets, they wouldn't have to really 1132 00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:31.360 do anything. 1133 00:54:31.360 --> 00:54:33.039 They're just going to be part of the class. 1134 00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:35.360 You guys will figure out if they fit the class 1135 00:54:35.639 --> 00:54:39.280 or the criteria. But how serious are you in putting 1136 00:54:39.320 --> 00:54:40.199 a class together? 1137 00:54:41.760 --> 00:54:44.920 Yeah, we're working on putting one together right now. We 1138 00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:48.920 are serious. And because I think that this situation is 1139 00:54:48.960 --> 00:54:51.360 exactly what class actions were made for it they are 1140 00:54:51.480 --> 00:54:53.639 this is a seventy five this is a seventy five 1141 00:54:53.679 --> 00:54:57.239 dollars ticket, and so it makes no sense. You can't 1142 00:54:57.280 --> 00:55:00.519 find a lawyer to go fight a seventy five dollars Well. 1143 00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:03.199 You could have three or four hundred bucks an hour. Yeah, 1144 00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:05.800 yeah you could. You could find an attorney to do it, 1145 00:55:05.840 --> 00:55:09.320 but it would be an absurdity, Like literally, it would 1146 00:55:09.360 --> 00:55:11.880 be absurd. But so you guys are going to do this. 1147 00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:15.079 The class action people just sit back, you know, you 1148 00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:17.559 know they're probably going to end up with not much, 1149 00:55:17.599 --> 00:55:19.360 but who cares what it does. 1150 00:55:19.920 --> 00:55:20.599 It's bigger. 1151 00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:24.199 It's telling the state you're not allowed to do something 1152 00:55:24.360 --> 00:55:24.639 like this. 1153 00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:26.280 You just simply can't do it. 1154 00:55:28.199 --> 00:55:30.519 Yeah, I think that's exactly right. I think that they 1155 00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:34.159 are acting outside of the authority that was granted by 1156 00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:37.639 the General Assembly. And if they want additional authority, they 1157 00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:39.880 want to be able to enforce people crossing the line 1158 00:55:39.880 --> 00:55:43.760 even if they paid the toll, then you know the 1159 00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:46.079 right way to go about that is to go and 1160 00:55:46.119 --> 00:55:47.000 get that authority. 1161 00:55:47.159 --> 00:55:50.039 Hey, John, what phone number? What phone number? 1162 00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:54.480 Or email? What contact information for anybody listening that has 1163 00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:58.000 been affected, no matter what, just has received and paid 1164 00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:01.679 one of these seventy five dollar tickets for crossing the 1165 00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:05.920 double lines in Colorado? How can people at least get 1166 00:56:05.960 --> 00:56:08.320 their name to you? And do you want like a 1167 00:56:08.360 --> 00:56:11.039 picture of their notice? Just give me some real basics 1168 00:56:11.159 --> 00:56:13.239 where to start telling people to go. 1169 00:56:14.760 --> 00:56:17.920 Yeah, there's a form on our website. The website is 1170 00:56:18.039 --> 00:56:22.840 www dot bow sh dot com. 1171 00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:25.280 Well well d ow like dw what. 1172 00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:34.800 Bow oho, oscar whiskey the at Charliehotel dot com. 1173 00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:36.239 Got it, that's the spot. 1174 00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:38.960 And so they can get their name, email address and 1175 00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:42.320 a brief description of you know, their case in there. 1176 00:56:43.159 --> 00:56:46.559 We don't have to represent every single person in a class. 1177 00:56:46.599 --> 00:56:50.000 What you do is we'll find a few representatives, maybe 1178 00:56:50.039 --> 00:56:54.639 five to ten that you know they have in common 1179 00:56:54.880 --> 00:56:58.159 everything with the class, and then we can just crosscheck 1180 00:56:58.199 --> 00:57:01.440 and verify from the people that submit into our forums. 1181 00:57:01.480 --> 00:57:01.719 There. 1182 00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:05.559 I love it that they're in the class. Yep, we 1183 00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:06.199 get the info. 1184 00:57:06.719 --> 00:57:09.760 Yeah, so just so people know real general, the class 1185 00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:11.960 means this. It all has to be the same. So 1186 00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:17.559 in other words, if you were actually trying to evade 1187 00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:19.840 the toll, that's not part of this class. If you 1188 00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:22.880 didn't pay the toll, that's not part of this class. 1189 00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:26.360 This is someone that either accidentally or whatever, ended up 1190 00:57:26.360 --> 00:57:29.360 paying the toll and crossed the double lines. And unfortunately, 1191 00:57:29.639 --> 00:57:33.800 there's thousands of people listening that have got this. John Fuller, 1192 00:57:33.800 --> 00:57:35.880 didn't you say you got one of these tickets? 1193 00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:36.800 Yeah? I did. 1194 00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:39.360 I don't know that mine was accidentally. I think I 1195 00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:41.320 cut the corner just a little bit too early or 1196 00:57:41.559 --> 00:57:43.719 we'll see it. But that's bys because you paid the 1197 00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:46.119 toll as well. Yeah, I paid the toll every day 1198 00:57:46.159 --> 00:57:49.159 of my life, it seems like. But yeah, I nonetheless 1199 00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:51.599 had a welcome in a letter at my house for 1200 00:57:51.719 --> 00:57:52.639 seventy five bucks. 1201 00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:55.800 Hey, John, give me that. Give the website one more time. 1202 00:57:57.199 --> 00:58:04.719 Yes, www dot bow sh dot com. Bravo, Oscar Whiskey 1203 00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:06.039 Sierra Charlie Hotel. 1204 00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:09.880 Got it, Bowlin and Shaw Attorneys, and you guys could 1205 00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:12.119 do it right there. So anybody out there listening, Hey, man, 1206 00:58:12.599 --> 00:58:16.760 great story. Really appreciate you taking the time. And I'm 1207 00:58:16.760 --> 00:58:19.199 gonna make sure anybody that calls with you seventy five 1208 00:58:19.239 --> 00:58:22.559 dollars tickets. I can't believe how many we get that 1209 00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:24.880 literally paid the toll. We're gonna have him go right 1210 00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:27.599 to that website for you. So it was great talking 1211 00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:30.559 to you, and uh, hopefully I meet you in person someday. 1212 00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:30.800 Man. 1213 00:58:31.000 --> 00:58:33.360 Hey, good work too, really good work. 1214 00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:36.559 Oh, thank you, thank you on. 1215 00:58:36.599 --> 00:58:40.000 Yeah, you got it. John, that's John Bolan and once 1216 00:58:40.119 --> 00:58:52.760 again bouch. So it's b O w sch dot com. 1217 00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:56.199 Go with a sure thing Denver's best rufer excel roofing 1218 00:58:56.280 --> 00:58:56.840 dot com. 1219 00:58:56.920 --> 00:58:58.920 You don't pay a cent until you're content. 1220 00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:05.880 Time for an insurance checkup free no obligation comparison call 1221 00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:09.280 Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens of 1222 00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:11.960 insurance companies find out now three oh three, seven to 1223 00:59:12.039 --> 00:59:14.840 seven to one help. You'll think you're his only customer 1224 00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:17.119 when you choose Frank durand the Real estate Man dot 1225 00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:20.440 com to list your home with Remax Alliance three oh 1226 00:59:20.519 --> 00:59:24.480 three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. 1227 00:59:25.440 --> 00:59:28.360 All right, three oh three seven one three eight two 1228 00:59:28.400 --> 00:59:32.519 five five. Man, I just learned my fifteen hundred dollars 1229 00:59:32.519 --> 00:59:37.239 German shepherd Niko is now worth I think it works 1230 00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:39.400 this way, is now worth almost four thousand. Let me 1231 00:59:39.480 --> 00:59:43.480 tell you why, uh Suzanne brought him up to CSU 1232 00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:49.159 and by the way, probably not even arguably, probably one 1233 00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:54.280 of two of the best veterinarian schools and people there, 1234 00:59:54.320 --> 00:59:58.599 the professors, the whatever they're called events, they got to 1235 00:59:58.639 --> 01:00:00.760 do an MRI. So I got a I got to 1236 01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:03.239 put about two more grand into this dog I paid 1237 01:00:03.280 --> 01:00:06.440 fifteen hundred for and then we'll figure out what's going 1238 01:00:06.480 --> 01:00:08.480 on with them. Fine, but you know what I got 1239 01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:11.840 him to throw in, guys, because when you put a 1240 01:00:11.880 --> 01:00:13.840 dog through an MRI, of course you got to knock 1241 01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:16.440 him out. I mean, he's gonna be out. But I 1242 01:00:16.480 --> 01:00:18.800 got him to throw in, John, You're gonna be proud 1243 01:00:18.800 --> 01:00:22.480 of me a nail clipping. So while he's out there, 1244 01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:26.440 gonna co ed and clip his nails. As a added bonus. 1245 01:00:26.199 --> 01:00:28.599 You got to throw in like they express, the anal 1246 01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:32.920 glands and all that stuff to let me ask you. 1247 01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:36.400 What's the most? And I pro I'm gonna get listen. 1248 01:00:36.440 --> 01:00:39.559 I've got tire, Shelley and Stephanie. I'm gonna get right 1249 01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:41.920 with you, guys. I promise I will on the phones. 1250 01:00:42.199 --> 01:00:44.719 But what's the most you've ever dropped on a dog? 1251 01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:46.440 John seriously? Or a pet? 1252 01:00:47.079 --> 01:00:49.159 Give me a And I mean at one time, not 1253 01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:50.119 over a lifetime. 1254 01:00:51.559 --> 01:00:53.519 I don't know. We'sed to own horses. Man, that's a 1255 01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:54.159 whole different case. 1256 01:00:54.280 --> 01:00:55.920 No, no, not fair, not fair. 1257 01:00:56.119 --> 01:00:56.760 I know it's not. 1258 01:00:57.079 --> 01:01:00.039 But dogg or cat, I don't know, my wife, and 1259 01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:03.559 I mean we dropped a grand on pulling teeth out 1260 01:01:03.599 --> 01:01:06.280 of a Chihuahua. I mean, I'm just waiting for this dog. 1261 01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:08.239 You don't have fly, I'm waiting for this dog to 1262 01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:10.199 run out of teeth. It seems like every time you 1263 01:01:10.280 --> 01:01:11.840 go in there, they pull like seven or. 1264 01:01:11.840 --> 01:01:12.400 Eight of them. 1265 01:01:12.440 --> 01:01:16.039 You know they're regrowing. I think they are growing. 1266 01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:18.400 They keep pulling him out to the tune of like 1267 01:01:18.440 --> 01:01:19.599 a grand every time. 1268 01:01:19.639 --> 01:01:21.960 It seems like maybe. 1269 01:01:21.800 --> 01:01:24.079 It's a baby shock and out of Chiuaha. 1270 01:01:24.320 --> 01:01:25.519 That's the most in one. 1271 01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:28.599 I know we spent way more than that. How about 1272 01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:30.679 two three grand? Four grand? 1273 01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:32.639 Mark a few years ago, I lost the twenty year 1274 01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:35.760 old cat, and I spent a few thousand dollars in 1275 01:01:35.760 --> 01:01:38.360 her last few months. But the last few months, yeah, 1276 01:01:38.360 --> 01:01:40.159 and I would have given her some of my time 1277 01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:40.719 if I could. 1278 01:01:41.039 --> 01:01:45.679 I know a guy in the last six months spent 1279 01:01:46.039 --> 01:01:51.800 twenty thousand dollars on heart surgery on a little dog, 1280 01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:57.719 twenty thousand dollars and it actually lasted a little bit, 1281 01:01:57.840 --> 01:01:59.719 but I don't think he got his money's worth. A 1282 01:01:59.800 --> 01:02:02.519 dog was somewhat old too. We all get there. I 1283 01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:06.000 spend seven grand on Ashitsu. One time we were out 1284 01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:08.760 of town and we had a house sitter. Her name 1285 01:02:08.840 --> 01:02:13.000 was Lana. She moved our car out of our garage 1286 01:02:13.039 --> 01:02:14.920 so she could park in the garage while she was 1287 01:02:14.960 --> 01:02:18.440 their house sitting and dog sitting. She ran over our 1288 01:02:18.599 --> 01:02:23.960 dog in our car in our driveway, got them up 1289 01:02:23.960 --> 01:02:25.960 to the vet. We were with the kids, our kids 1290 01:02:26.000 --> 01:02:30.840 were really young, at Lego Land in SeaWorld in California, 1291 01:02:31.480 --> 01:02:35.159 San Diego area. Get a call at one o'clock in 1292 01:02:35.199 --> 01:02:38.960 the morning from Lanta. She's at the vet and needs 1293 01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:43.280 to know if we're going to approve two thousand dollars. 1294 01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:45.760 And we're like, well, yeah, I mean what happened, she 1295 01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:48.199 told us. So we approved two grand. We get a 1296 01:02:48.199 --> 01:02:51.480 call back. By the time the night was over, we're 1297 01:02:51.639 --> 01:02:53.400 seven grand deep in this dog. 1298 01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:55.639 We're gonna need a different credit card, sir, that one's 1299 01:02:55.719 --> 01:02:56.239 not going through it. 1300 01:02:57.159 --> 01:02:59.599 So we're seven grand deep into this dog. 1301 01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:02.320 And that was it. That dog lived another three or 1302 01:03:02.360 --> 01:03:04.159 four years. I'm going to tell you something that is 1303 01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:08.480 absolutely unbelievable. Remember our house sitter ran over our dog 1304 01:03:08.519 --> 01:03:11.800 in our car and our driveway. I would say two 1305 01:03:11.960 --> 01:03:15.079 three years later, I get a check from her dad. 1306 01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:16.639 She was seventeen at the time. 1307 01:03:17.159 --> 01:03:20.400 I get a check from her dad from his insurance 1308 01:03:20.440 --> 01:03:23.920 company I think it was State Farm for seven thousand dollars. 1309 01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:28.320 He turned it into his homeowners. Now Wyatt took two years. 1310 01:03:28.400 --> 01:03:30.800 I would have no idea. I didn't even know what 1311 01:03:30.920 --> 01:03:35.039 was going on, but we got reinburse seven grand. Listen, Stephanie, 1312 01:03:36.079 --> 01:03:39.119 Tire and Shelley. I promise I'm going direct to you. 1313 01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:41.519 One of them's got a problem with the Denver police 1314 01:03:41.519 --> 01:03:44.800 towing their car. An issue with the car accident, that's 1315 01:03:44.840 --> 01:03:47.119 going to be right up John Fuller's alley big time. 1316 01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:49.440 And then Stephanie an issue with a flood and a 1317 01:03:49.480 --> 01:03:52.920 crawl space that can be catastrophic. Hold on. 1318 01:03:59.119 --> 01:04:03.079 Go with a short Denver's Best roofer Excel Roofing dot com. 1319 01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:05.119 You don't pay a cent until you're content. 1320 01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:11.679 Time for an insurance check up free no obligation comparison 1321 01:04:11.840 --> 01:04:15.400 call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens 1322 01:04:15.400 --> 01:04:18.119 of insurance companies find out now three oh three seven 1323 01:04:18.239 --> 01:04:21.039 seven to one help. You'll think you're his only customer 1324 01:04:21.079 --> 01:04:23.320 when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot 1325 01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:26.639 com to list your home with Remax Alliance three oh 1326 01:04:26.719 --> 01:04:28.679 three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. 1327 01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:36.960 All right three O three seven one three A two 1328 01:04:37.039 --> 01:04:39.000 five five. By the way, this hour brought to you 1329 01:04:39.039 --> 01:04:40.719 by water Pros. 1330 01:04:40.760 --> 01:04:41.280 That's Paul. 1331 01:04:41.320 --> 01:04:43.000 You know the guy. We call him Paul the Waterman. 1332 01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:46.119 He sells the best systems for less money. The system 1333 01:04:46.159 --> 01:04:48.760 they put in our house was crazy. It's a great 1334 01:04:48.800 --> 01:04:52.039 water softener. It came in than less than four thousand 1335 01:04:52.119 --> 01:04:56.320 dollars and checked us out the competition. I got three 1336 01:04:56.440 --> 01:04:58.239 or four bids that came out to the house. He 1337 01:04:58.440 --> 01:05:00.800 was half the price of the other lowest one. Some 1338 01:05:00.840 --> 01:05:03.320 people were triple. He's got one right now. If you 1339 01:05:03.360 --> 01:05:05.920 go to waterpros dot net. It's a water softener and 1340 01:05:05.960 --> 01:05:10.440 it's a whole house filtration for forever chemicals, so it 1341 01:05:10.440 --> 01:05:13.719 gets rid of all those little microplastics. And then and 1342 01:05:13.760 --> 01:05:16.679 then he'll do a at use or a point of 1343 01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:20.639 use at your kitchen sake or reverse osmosis less than 1344 01:05:20.679 --> 01:05:23.679 four grand, less than four grand some of the competition 1345 01:05:23.840 --> 01:05:27.679 twelve grand without blinking on that same stuff waterpros dot net. 1346 01:05:27.719 --> 01:05:29.639 Now I want to do this. I'm going to go 1347 01:05:29.639 --> 01:05:32.480 to whoever's been holding the longest and we're just going 1348 01:05:32.559 --> 01:05:35.880 to plow through these calls. Period of end of story. 1349 01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:38.800 So the first one up is going to be Shelley. Shelley, 1350 01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:46.639 what is going on with you? Shelley hold on? That's 1351 01:05:46.679 --> 01:05:48.960 my bad, Shelley. I hit the wrong button, Shelly, what's 1352 01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:49.360 going on? 1353 01:05:49.679 --> 01:05:54.480 Hi? Two days ago, my thirty two foot motor coach 1354 01:05:54.519 --> 01:05:58.199 which I was living in, and I was parked outside 1355 01:05:58.239 --> 01:06:00.800 of a friend's house, which would they were okay with 1356 01:06:00.880 --> 01:06:03.760 me being there? Anyway, long story for it. I posted 1357 01:06:03.800 --> 01:06:05.760 a notice from the cops that I had to move 1358 01:06:05.800 --> 01:06:10.519 it seven hundred feet, which is ridiculous because three days later, Hey, where. 1359 01:06:10.280 --> 01:06:10.960 Is this, Shelley? 1360 01:06:11.079 --> 01:06:11.280 Is it? 1361 01:06:11.320 --> 01:06:12.679 Downtown Denver, is it? 1362 01:06:12.800 --> 01:06:12.960 Yes? 1363 01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:14.599 Okay, so it's city. 1364 01:06:14.599 --> 01:06:17.119 City Denver, downtown, not down I'm sorry. It was on 1365 01:06:17.239 --> 01:06:22.880 Chelton Hooker Okay, still Denver. So I rented the truck, 1366 01:06:23.559 --> 01:06:26.760 moved it to seven hundred feet they required, and as 1367 01:06:26.760 --> 01:06:31.639 soon as I was returning from bringing the truck back, cops, 1368 01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:35.280 the fire department, everything there, they towed my my IRV. 1369 01:06:35.679 --> 01:06:36.960 That's the roof over my head. 1370 01:06:37.079 --> 01:06:39.920 So wait a second, I just really want to understand this. 1371 01:06:40.039 --> 01:06:43.719 So they first didn't toe it. They put a notice 1372 01:06:43.719 --> 01:06:45.960 say you had to move it seven hundred feet. Now 1373 01:06:46.039 --> 01:06:47.800 is that a rule like you can't be in the 1374 01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:50.039 same spot for X amount of time? 1375 01:06:50.039 --> 01:06:53.159 Why are they telling you to move it the seven hundred. 1376 01:06:52.840 --> 01:06:56.039 Feet Apparently you can't move hips more than three days. 1377 01:06:56.159 --> 01:06:56.800 Okay, it's just. 1378 01:06:56.760 --> 01:06:58.400 An ordinance of some deal. 1379 01:06:58.639 --> 01:07:02.039 So when you moved it somewhere else, did you park 1380 01:07:02.119 --> 01:07:05.039 somewhere where they could immediately toe it? What I don't 1381 01:07:05.119 --> 01:07:08.039 understand is why didn't they just immediately tow it where 1382 01:07:08.119 --> 01:07:11.440 you were? But now they towed it when you moved 1383 01:07:11.679 --> 01:07:12.880 like they asked you to move. 1384 01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:17.159 I honestly I couldn't even tell you. I just know 1385 01:07:17.280 --> 01:07:21.159 that I live in compliance with the notice and that 1386 01:07:21.599 --> 01:07:25.840 my biggest issue is, I mean they destroyed that. The 1387 01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:28.559 right half of the windshield is completely gone. I don't 1388 01:07:28.599 --> 01:07:31.400 know what happened to that. My stuff was everywhere, lots 1389 01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:36.840 of things broken. They gave me fifteen minutes to remove 1390 01:07:37.360 --> 01:07:39.880 all and that's my That's where I was living, you know, 1391 01:07:40.480 --> 01:07:42.800 So everything I have? 1392 01:07:43.239 --> 01:07:45.840 Where did you put everything? Just what happened? 1393 01:07:46.639 --> 01:07:51.079 I've rented a new home and went to the They 1394 01:07:51.079 --> 01:07:55.840 had it at the Sheriff's Denver Sheriff's Inpound Lot. But 1395 01:07:56.199 --> 01:07:59.840 fifteen minutes, that's just ridiculous. I'm sixty before. 1396 01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:02.480 I understand, and I don't agree with any of this, 1397 01:08:02.599 --> 01:08:04.559 but I'm trying to figure out how we can actually 1398 01:08:04.960 --> 01:08:05.360 help you. 1399 01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:07.440 Can you get the vehicle back? 1400 01:08:07.519 --> 01:08:10.800 Now? When you say the windshield, was it cracked in 1401 01:08:10.840 --> 01:08:13.719 the first place, I mean did they it was crashed? 1402 01:08:13.719 --> 01:08:17.159 So there's an argument there. It didn't matter the windshield. 1403 01:08:17.319 --> 01:08:19.800 Man, that's not even my issue. 1404 01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:21.720 What is the issue, then, Shelley, I. 1405 01:08:21.760 --> 01:08:24.520 Want the rest of my stuff, That's all I want. 1406 01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:25.520 I just want to get. 1407 01:08:26.319 --> 01:08:29.960 Now, Dmitri, Shelley, please please hold on. I hear the 1408 01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:32.319 emotions in you, and I do want to help you 1409 01:08:32.359 --> 01:08:35.119 get your stuff. This is very similar to another one 1410 01:08:35.199 --> 01:08:35.760 we worked on. 1411 01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:39.800 Yeah, yeah, right around what is the Thanksgiving or Christmas? 1412 01:08:39.840 --> 01:08:41.760 And I'll follow you in on what I found out 1413 01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:42.680 as as we come back. 1414 01:08:42.760 --> 01:08:44.960 We actually have information on this stuff. 1415 01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:47.720 So hold on and then Tire, I'm going to talk 1416 01:08:47.760 --> 01:08:49.760 to you just to get the gist of your car 1417 01:08:49.800 --> 01:08:53.159 accident question on the break, and then Stephanie you're gonna 1418 01:08:53.159 --> 01:08:56.560 be up next. Hold on, everybody, and Shelley just calm down. 1419 01:08:56.600 --> 01:08:57.960 Hold on. 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Now we're 1451 01:10:49.880 --> 01:10:53.000 trying to figure out how to help Shelley. She's homeless. 1452 01:10:53.079 --> 01:10:56.600 She lived in her RV and basically Denver. She was 1453 01:10:56.680 --> 01:10:58.600 parked in Denver. They put a sign up or they 1454 01:10:58.640 --> 01:11:01.000 put a notice up. You got to move seven hundred feet. 1455 01:11:01.720 --> 01:11:05.479 It was seven hundred feet, right, Shelley, Yes, within a 1456 01:11:05.600 --> 01:11:07.239 period of time where they were going to tow it. 1457 01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:09.600 She had to call a tow truck over because the 1458 01:11:09.720 --> 01:11:13.920 vehicle didn't actually run, and she moved it the seven 1459 01:11:14.039 --> 01:11:16.439 hundred feet. And then I guess you went out somewhere 1460 01:11:16.439 --> 01:11:18.920 and when you came back or they knocked on what 1461 01:11:19.279 --> 01:11:20.199 actually did happen? 1462 01:11:20.600 --> 01:11:22.680 Were you in the vehicle when they came out. 1463 01:11:22.560 --> 01:11:22.960 To move it. 1464 01:11:24.079 --> 01:11:27.720 No, my roommate was but that I had rented a 1465 01:11:27.880 --> 01:11:32.279 tow truck and I pulled it myself, and then I 1466 01:11:32.439 --> 01:11:35.560 was returning the tow truck and when I drove up 1467 01:11:36.159 --> 01:11:37.640 the they were there. 1468 01:11:38.159 --> 01:11:40.920 I wonder, Shelley, tell me if this makes sense? 1469 01:11:41.800 --> 01:11:45.239 When they saw you move it the seven hundred feet 1470 01:11:45.279 --> 01:11:48.399 and have to use a tow truck, I wonder if 1471 01:11:48.439 --> 01:11:51.239 that's when they made the decision that they were going 1472 01:11:51.319 --> 01:11:53.119 to tow it because it's inoperable. 1473 01:11:53.640 --> 01:11:56.840 Do you think they knew us already? We have we 1474 01:11:57.039 --> 01:12:01.319 have been dealing with Bim please with this for a questions. 1475 01:12:01.319 --> 01:12:03.880 Why would you possibly be in Denver like that? Why 1476 01:12:03.880 --> 01:12:06.560 wouldn't you go just to the outskirts or somewhere else. 1477 01:12:06.640 --> 01:12:09.279 I guess I don't understand that logic. 1478 01:12:10.159 --> 01:12:12.720 Okay, this is this is a problem, the part that 1479 01:12:12.840 --> 01:12:16.439 I needed to fix it. Yeah, at like eleven hundred dollars. 1480 01:12:17.119 --> 01:12:20.520 We were my roommate and I were intending on, you know, 1481 01:12:20.880 --> 01:12:23.520 repairing it, of course, you know, and we were just 1482 01:12:23.720 --> 01:12:25.479 I was I was just going to sell it and 1483 01:12:25.600 --> 01:12:28.560 go back to living in an apartment. Well, now I 1484 01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:30.920 don't have it to sell, and if they destroyed the 1485 01:12:31.119 --> 01:12:34.640 living daylights out of it, so not it's not even 1486 01:12:34.840 --> 01:12:37.760 feasible for me to even try to sell it. But 1487 01:12:38.039 --> 01:12:41.439 the problem is they left me homeless, which was bad enough, 1488 01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:44.000 and that I just wanted to be able to get 1489 01:12:44.119 --> 01:12:46.479 my personal property out here. 1490 01:12:46.840 --> 01:12:47.520 Let's stick to that. 1491 01:12:47.760 --> 01:12:50.960 So Dmitri, you dealt with this on this guy's tools, 1492 01:12:51.319 --> 01:12:54.960 almost verbatim. It was another motor home deal. They towed it, 1493 01:12:55.159 --> 01:12:57.239 but all the guys tools were in there, and that's 1494 01:12:57.279 --> 01:12:59.439 how we made a living. And I think it's at 1495 01:12:59.479 --> 01:13:00.560 the same point, right. 1496 01:13:01.319 --> 01:13:05.199 Yeah, So in that matter, the guy was never allowed 1497 01:13:05.279 --> 01:13:07.640 to get into the into the motor home because he 1498 01:13:08.159 --> 01:13:11.560 didn't have registration or title to it. All he had 1499 01:13:11.720 --> 01:13:15.000 was a bill of sale. But the Denver sheriff said that, hey, 1500 01:13:15.079 --> 01:13:16.840 you know, as far as we know, that's a fake 1501 01:13:16.920 --> 01:13:19.199 bill of sale. Of course it needs to be official, 1502 01:13:19.319 --> 01:13:20.840 so I agree with that as. 1503 01:13:21.079 --> 01:13:21.479 I do too. 1504 01:13:21.560 --> 01:13:24.760 So, Shelley, do you have anything to prove ownership of 1505 01:13:24.840 --> 01:13:26.880 this RV? Do you have a registration? 1506 01:13:27.079 --> 01:13:30.520 The title we have time with your name on it? Yes? 1507 01:13:30.880 --> 01:13:34.000 Okay? Is there is there a registration? Also, by any chance. 1508 01:13:34.039 --> 01:13:37.000 The registration is expired, okay. 1509 01:13:36.880 --> 01:13:37.920 But it has your name on it. 1510 01:13:38.039 --> 01:13:39.079 Maybe that's why it was so. 1511 01:13:39.720 --> 01:13:43.000 But and the last question I have four you is 1512 01:13:43.039 --> 01:13:45.159 how do you know that you moved at seven hundred feet? 1513 01:13:46.399 --> 01:13:50.800 Because I'm a former math teacher number one, and I 1514 01:13:51.039 --> 01:13:55.279 measured how far we measured to see how down we 1515 01:13:55.479 --> 01:13:59.000 moved it two and a half blocks and that's more 1516 01:13:59.600 --> 01:14:01.439 with actually twelve hundred. 1517 01:14:01.199 --> 01:14:04.439 Shelly, why did they just not that it was right? 1518 01:14:04.680 --> 01:14:07.399 But why did they toe it? I really want to 1519 01:14:07.479 --> 01:14:09.319 understand that you must have an inkling. 1520 01:14:09.920 --> 01:14:13.279 Well, yes I do, because obviously, I mean I'm talking 1521 01:14:13.359 --> 01:14:17.119 to other people that live in RV's. The state of 1522 01:14:17.239 --> 01:14:20.880 Colorado wants to get RV's out of here. Okay, they 1523 01:14:20.880 --> 01:14:21.760 don't even want them. 1524 01:14:22.199 --> 01:14:24.560 And honestly, Shelley, if I owned a house or something 1525 01:14:24.680 --> 01:14:26.319 you were parked in front of there. I mean I 1526 01:14:26.439 --> 01:14:28.359 probably would have a problem with it, but I. 1527 01:14:28.479 --> 01:14:31.520 Was parks in front of my friend's house, which and 1528 01:14:31.600 --> 01:14:34.640 there's a park across the street, so we were not obstructing. 1529 01:14:35.680 --> 01:14:36.079 I get it. 1530 01:14:36.119 --> 01:14:38.159 But the rules are rules. But here's the good news. 1531 01:14:38.199 --> 01:14:40.479 Yeah, so, Shelley, I still have my contact at the 1532 01:14:40.560 --> 01:14:44.760 Sheriff's office, So if you could scan and email us 1533 01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:50.039 your title and your now expired registration, I'll submit those 1534 01:14:50.119 --> 01:14:53.000 documents to the Sheriff's office and I'll ask them to 1535 01:14:54.319 --> 01:14:56.600 give you give you access to that RV so you 1536 01:14:56.680 --> 01:14:59.840 can remove the rest of your stuff. When did a 1537 01:15:00.079 --> 01:15:01.239 go into the impound yard? 1538 01:15:01.840 --> 01:15:04.239 It went in the mpound yard two days ago. 1539 01:15:04.159 --> 01:15:07.079 Okay, so it's still there. So yeah, if you can, 1540 01:15:07.319 --> 01:15:09.479 if you can email that Kelly here, We'll give you 1541 01:15:09.640 --> 01:15:12.600 our email address and show forward those documents to me 1542 01:15:12.760 --> 01:15:14.760 right away and I'll follow up on it with the 1543 01:15:14.800 --> 01:15:16.079 Sheriff's office two days. 1544 01:15:16.319 --> 01:15:19.119 You do understand that I did. We were able to 1545 01:15:19.159 --> 01:15:21.279 go in there yestesterday, but they only I mean I 1546 01:15:21.359 --> 01:15:24.680 fifteen minutes. It's just a ludicrous You just need a 1547 01:15:24.720 --> 01:15:25.399 little more time. 1548 01:15:25.560 --> 01:15:27.880 Sully did they say you can come back for another 1549 01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:29.079 fifteen minutes. 1550 01:15:28.760 --> 01:15:31.760 Another day, or did they say deputy his last name 1551 01:15:31.920 --> 01:15:35.560 is my first name, ironically, Deputy Shelley. He said it 1552 01:15:35.600 --> 01:15:37.920 would be up to him because I said, I said, 1553 01:15:37.960 --> 01:15:40.199 can I please come back tomorrow? Because he told me 1554 01:15:40.279 --> 01:15:43.159 he was going to have me arrested for trust happiness? 1555 01:15:43.720 --> 01:15:46.520 Why did they Why are they being so difficult with you? 1556 01:15:47.880 --> 01:15:48.560 Did you throw it? 1557 01:15:48.720 --> 01:15:50.119 I mean, did you give them money? 1558 01:15:50.319 --> 01:15:50.640 Look, I. 1559 01:15:52.279 --> 01:15:54.359 Know they took your house and stuff, but did you 1560 01:15:54.479 --> 01:15:58.079 get into like an altercation or threaten them or no? 1561 01:15:58.640 --> 01:16:02.279 I was crying and yeah, bagging and pleading them, So 1562 01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:04.079 please let me get my stub. 1563 01:16:05.319 --> 01:16:07.640 What would it take to actually get your RV back? 1564 01:16:08.319 --> 01:16:08.520 Wow? 1565 01:16:08.520 --> 01:16:11.159 I don't want it back. I mean it's two hundred 1566 01:16:11.199 --> 01:16:14.399 and thirty five dollars at this point, was to the 1567 01:16:14.520 --> 01:16:15.199 fifty five. 1568 01:16:15.319 --> 01:16:16.319 Then it doesn't run. 1569 01:16:17.319 --> 01:16:19.439 It doesn't run. I don't want it back. They destroyed it. 1570 01:16:19.560 --> 01:16:22.560 I mean the whole right windshield is completely missing. It 1571 01:16:22.680 --> 01:16:25.760 wasn't even anywhere around. And the inside I mean I 1572 01:16:25.840 --> 01:16:28.000 have pictures of what they did to the inside of 1573 01:16:28.119 --> 01:16:30.399 They broke a lot of my stuff. I mean I 1574 01:16:30.479 --> 01:16:33.199 have these little crystal figurines and things were broken and 1575 01:16:33.920 --> 01:16:36.760 everything out of the refrigerator was just strewn all over 1576 01:16:36.800 --> 01:16:40.600 the place. I've had the same toad before, so the 1577 01:16:40.960 --> 01:16:44.159 way the inside looked was it looks like they just 1578 01:16:44.720 --> 01:16:46.159 ransacked through everything. 1579 01:16:46.359 --> 01:16:51.479 Yeah. I have a suggestion for Shelley. Shelley, yes is bow. 1580 01:16:51.800 --> 01:16:55.079 What was the story about the seven hundred Why were 1581 01:16:55.119 --> 01:16:57.399 they concerned about the seven hundred and fifty feet? 1582 01:16:57.640 --> 01:16:59.039 You can't be in the same spot. 1583 01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:03.359 I don't want people living on the street, so so 1584 01:17:03.520 --> 01:17:05.600 all vehicles are required to be moved. Well, I have 1585 01:17:05.720 --> 01:17:06.680 a small suggestion. 1586 01:17:07.159 --> 01:17:11.000 I had a rental property in Denver and someone had 1587 01:17:11.199 --> 01:17:16.359 similar situation. They put their camper on the street and uh, 1588 01:17:16.680 --> 01:17:19.039 it was in front of my rental and I kept 1589 01:17:19.079 --> 01:17:23.600 calling the police about it, and the uh, the person 1590 01:17:23.680 --> 01:17:27.399 that was that was their only home. So the person 1591 01:17:27.520 --> 01:17:30.720 and the police wouldn't tow it or get involved. Because 1592 01:17:30.760 --> 01:17:33.239 the person that was in this camp or or RV 1593 01:17:33.800 --> 01:17:37.800 called the mayor's office and had some sort of department 1594 01:17:37.840 --> 01:17:38.800 for the initiative for. 1595 01:17:38.920 --> 01:17:42.640 Homeless Oh wow, and she she was able and this 1596 01:17:42.960 --> 01:17:44.399 was this made me upset. 1597 01:17:45.119 --> 01:17:48.319 The mayor's office got involved and they allowed this person 1598 01:17:48.439 --> 01:17:50.920 to stay on the public street. 1599 01:17:51.000 --> 01:17:52.359 In front of my rental house. 1600 01:17:54.439 --> 01:17:57.199 They gave some because I called the police department several 1601 01:17:57.279 --> 01:17:59.640 times because it was kind of an iceore and they slowed. 1602 01:17:59.680 --> 01:18:03.760 The mayor office got involved and it stays. So you 1603 01:18:03.880 --> 01:18:06.239 may want to call the mayor's office and ask for 1604 01:18:06.359 --> 01:18:09.840 the homeless division. There may be an avenue for you 1605 01:18:09.960 --> 01:18:11.520 to maybe get your RV out. 1606 01:18:11.760 --> 01:18:14.359 Hey, Kelly, that's that's that's great advice. 1607 01:18:14.439 --> 01:18:14.560 BO. 1608 01:18:14.760 --> 01:18:17.399 So we're gonna get all your information. You're gonna give 1609 01:18:17.439 --> 01:18:17.920 it to Kelly. 1610 01:18:18.039 --> 01:18:21.199 Dmitri's gonna reach out, and then I'll have Deputy Bo 1611 01:18:22.239 --> 01:18:24.159 if he can find that number. If you know what 1612 01:18:24.279 --> 01:18:27.000 it is, give that to Dmitri. So we got two avenues, 1613 01:18:27.159 --> 01:18:28.920 but we're gonna try to like, what do you need? 1614 01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:31.600 Maybe a half hour would that be sufficient? At this point? 1615 01:18:32.039 --> 01:18:32.600 Would be great? 1616 01:18:32.640 --> 01:18:36.199 And the poor woman only wants a half hour to 1617 01:18:36.239 --> 01:18:39.119 get her stuff out. I mean, really, this this is 1618 01:18:39.239 --> 01:18:40.960 kind of absurd if they don't do it. You know, 1619 01:18:41.279 --> 01:18:44.840 this is Denver where Mayor Mike is the most liberal 1620 01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:47.960 person I've ever seen in my life, and they won't 1621 01:18:48.039 --> 01:18:52.000 let somebody in her position get their stuff for a 1622 01:18:52.039 --> 01:18:54.439 half hour. What's wrong with this picture? How are you 1623 01:18:54.680 --> 01:18:57.520 so liberal and act like you're the best people in 1624 01:18:57.600 --> 01:18:59.239 the world and only wanted he. 1625 01:18:59.319 --> 01:19:02.640 Could work platform. Remember, he ran on the platform of 1626 01:19:02.880 --> 01:19:06.640 solving the homelessness situation, and that pencil neck never got 1627 01:19:06.720 --> 01:19:08.319 back to me when I was trying to help that 1628 01:19:08.399 --> 01:19:10.560 other guy get his tools out of the impound yard. 1629 01:19:10.680 --> 01:19:13.439 He's a tool, That's what's going on here. He's talking 1630 01:19:13.479 --> 01:19:14.880 out of one side of his mouth. 1631 01:19:15.159 --> 01:19:17.479 I might not agree with his politics at all, but 1632 01:19:17.600 --> 01:19:19.520 when you get up there and say, hey, I'm going 1633 01:19:19.560 --> 01:19:21.920 to fix the homeless situation and do this or that, 1634 01:19:22.840 --> 01:19:26.840 and he won't even allow his officers, and they're his 1635 01:19:27.119 --> 01:19:30.960 officers or guards over there at impound to give this 1636 01:19:31.319 --> 01:19:36.399 lady a half hour to get everything she owns in life. 1637 01:19:36.880 --> 01:19:38.399 Mike, you're an ass. 1638 01:19:39.600 --> 01:19:39.960 Thank you. 1639 01:19:44.359 --> 01:19:47.600 Go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing 1640 01:19:47.720 --> 01:19:50.319 dot com. You don't pay a cent until you're content. 1641 01:19:53.720 --> 01:19:56.880 Time for an insurance check up free, no obligation. In comparison, 1642 01:19:57.039 --> 01:20:00.199 call Compass insurance paying too much your coverage. He had 1643 01:20:00.279 --> 01:20:02.920 dozens of insurance companies find out now three oh three, 1644 01:20:03.079 --> 01:20:05.199 seven to seven to one help. You'll think you're his 1645 01:20:05.399 --> 01:20:08.000 only customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate 1646 01:20:08.079 --> 01:20:11.319 man dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance 1647 01:20:11.560 --> 01:20:13.840 three all three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. 1648 01:20:16.720 --> 01:20:17.399 All right three O. 1649 01:20:17.479 --> 01:20:19.960 Three seven one three eight two five five. 1650 01:20:20.039 --> 01:20:22.239 You've been ripped off for taking advantage of Hey, by 1651 01:20:22.279 --> 01:20:24.239 the way, tyree, call back. 1652 01:20:24.279 --> 01:20:24.920 You're up next. 1653 01:20:24.960 --> 01:20:27.159 But we had to help that poor woman get her 1654 01:20:27.159 --> 01:20:30.600 stuff back. But John Fuller is in studio with us. 1655 01:20:30.680 --> 01:20:34.359 He's a personal injury attorney. So give us a callback, 1656 01:20:34.520 --> 01:20:37.359 explain what's going on, and we can probably help you. 1657 01:20:37.479 --> 01:20:39.880 But to gist of it was he was sick and 1658 01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:43.399 tired of working. John with a big company or a 1659 01:20:43.479 --> 01:20:45.560 big law firm. He didn't tell me which one, but 1660 01:20:45.600 --> 01:20:48.119 I understand what he's saying. And they said we don't 1661 01:20:48.119 --> 01:20:51.319 want your business anymore. But his side of it, and 1662 01:20:51.439 --> 01:20:54.720 he just told me that during the break, what would 1663 01:20:54.800 --> 01:20:56.880 you do in a case like this, not you as 1664 01:20:56.920 --> 01:21:00.520 an attorney, but anybody listening out there. You hire a 1665 01:21:00.600 --> 01:21:04.079 law firm you were injured, They take the case, and 1666 01:21:04.239 --> 01:21:06.439 then every time you call up you got a different 1667 01:21:06.560 --> 01:21:09.479 case manager. And I talk about this in your commercials, John, 1668 01:21:09.800 --> 01:21:12.319 I mean, but finally you said, after I got the 1669 01:21:12.520 --> 01:21:15.560 six new person working on my case and none of 1670 01:21:15.600 --> 01:21:17.000 these people reach out and call me. 1671 01:21:17.119 --> 01:21:18.520 I've got to call them all the time. 1672 01:21:18.880 --> 01:21:20.960 So finally he said, I got a little upset and 1673 01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:23.159 probably said some stuff I shouldn't have, and then I 1674 01:21:23.239 --> 01:21:25.840 got a call back on we don't want your business anymore. 1675 01:21:26.119 --> 01:21:28.680 I mean, that's kind of crappy. I mean, seriously, to 1676 01:21:28.800 --> 01:21:30.760 have to deal with five or six people then you 1677 01:21:30.880 --> 01:21:31.720 get fed up with it. 1678 01:21:31.840 --> 01:21:31.960 Now. 1679 01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:34.159 I don't know what he said to them. I mean, 1680 01:21:34.239 --> 01:21:36.439 it could be outrageous, it could not be, but I 1681 01:21:36.520 --> 01:21:37.800 mean it's kind of weird. 1682 01:21:37.880 --> 01:21:38.960 So just real quick. 1683 01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:41.560 And then I got to go to Stephanie. Can an attorney, 1684 01:21:41.720 --> 01:21:45.000 a personal injury attorney that took your case, can they 1685 01:21:45.119 --> 01:21:47.960 simply fire the client at any time? 1686 01:21:48.239 --> 01:21:50.039 Yeah, they generally generally can. 1687 01:21:50.720 --> 01:21:53.119 It's all going to come down, like every other contract issue, 1688 01:21:53.159 --> 01:21:54.680 to what it says in the contract. 1689 01:21:54.960 --> 01:21:56.239 So give the agreement. 1690 01:21:56.319 --> 01:21:58.239 Yeah, in the fear agreement, it gives the attorneys a 1691 01:21:58.319 --> 01:22:02.079 right to withdraw at any time. And so I don't 1692 01:22:02.159 --> 01:22:04.000 know what was said, but I'm sure it wasn't a 1693 01:22:04.079 --> 01:22:08.079 pleasant conversation. There's two sides to everything, of course, but yeah, 1694 01:22:08.279 --> 01:22:10.279 I mean they can they can say, look, there's no 1695 01:22:10.399 --> 01:22:12.359 way we're going to make this guy happy. We're not 1696 01:22:12.520 --> 01:22:15.920 going to deal with our employees getting harassed or threatened 1697 01:22:16.000 --> 01:22:16.680 or anything like that. 1698 01:22:16.800 --> 01:22:18.520 I mean, I'm not I don't know that that's what 1699 01:22:18.720 --> 01:22:19.039 was said. 1700 01:22:19.199 --> 01:22:22.399 Yeah, but if that line was ever crossed, it's a 1701 01:22:22.520 --> 01:22:24.560 line that you can't come back from. I just had 1702 01:22:24.600 --> 01:22:26.439 one the other day like that, and that asked me 1703 01:22:26.520 --> 01:22:29.359 to retake on a case and I was like, no, 1704 01:22:30.439 --> 01:22:31.800 I won't do that to my staff. 1705 01:22:32.039 --> 01:22:35.960 You know, just too abusive, I mean, bottom line exactly. Hey, Stephanie, 1706 01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:37.520 what's going on with this cross space? 1707 01:22:40.319 --> 01:22:46.479 So my house back to a Denver public school. They 1708 01:22:46.640 --> 01:22:49.520 built a soccer field and when they built it, and 1709 01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:55.560 they put more soil there and made me property higher. 1710 01:22:55.920 --> 01:22:59.760 So now I have a swell behind my house that's 1711 01:23:00.119 --> 01:23:04.359 feet higher, so all the excess water comes back into 1712 01:23:04.479 --> 01:23:07.560 my property. And I've been dealing with this now for 1713 01:23:08.039 --> 01:23:12.600 seven years. Oh my god, it's oh yeah, no, it's 1714 01:23:12.800 --> 01:23:16.359 getting progressively worse. And I didn't I couldn't figure out 1715 01:23:16.359 --> 01:23:17.560 what it was happening at first. 1716 01:23:18.119 --> 01:23:20.159 Well, it was. 1717 01:23:21.840 --> 01:23:23.800 I want to pull this part out of it, because 1718 01:23:23.880 --> 01:23:26.520 you said it was the school. If it was just 1719 01:23:26.760 --> 01:23:29.520 I just from doing the show. I can tell you 1720 01:23:29.520 --> 01:23:32.439 a few things when someone builds something up. And once 1721 01:23:32.479 --> 01:23:34.640 again I'm not talking about the government, so this could 1722 01:23:34.680 --> 01:23:37.319 be different in John, maybe he knows something on that. 1723 01:23:37.479 --> 01:23:39.279 If not, we have another attorney we can get on. 1724 01:23:39.720 --> 01:23:42.840 But when you develop something and you're going to change 1725 01:23:42.880 --> 01:23:45.520 the flow of water or storm drain or anything, you 1726 01:23:45.600 --> 01:23:48.039 have to have a plan. So you put that plan together, 1727 01:23:48.159 --> 01:23:50.439 than someone in the city or the county or wherever 1728 01:23:51.039 --> 01:23:53.920 sign off on it and say yes, that's acceptable, then 1729 01:23:54.520 --> 01:23:56.720 you know, you build it whatever it is. I don't 1730 01:23:56.760 --> 01:23:58.960 care if it's a house next door or a soccer 1731 01:23:59.039 --> 01:24:01.399 field or whatever. You go out there and you actually 1732 01:24:01.439 --> 01:24:04.479 build it. Now, if the water does go the wrong 1733 01:24:04.560 --> 01:24:09.039 direction and ultimately ends up hurting someone else's property or 1734 01:24:09.279 --> 01:24:11.760 like in your case, I mean like getting into the 1735 01:24:11.840 --> 01:24:15.319 crawl space or into the house, it's a pretty tough 1736 01:24:15.439 --> 01:24:19.159 fight then because they did follow the plan. So the 1737 01:24:19.279 --> 01:24:22.600 first thing typically you would do is find out if 1738 01:24:22.680 --> 01:24:27.359 the construction followed that plan, was it done right? Because 1739 01:24:27.479 --> 01:24:30.880 if the county, and tell me what you think about this, John, 1740 01:24:31.119 --> 01:24:33.920 if the county signs off on something when it comes 1741 01:24:33.960 --> 01:24:37.680 to the flow of storm water and they screw up 1742 01:24:38.039 --> 01:24:42.399 the engineer screws up. Where does that generally, where would 1743 01:24:42.439 --> 01:24:44.560 you think that would go back on? I'd either say 1744 01:24:44.600 --> 01:24:48.039 the county itself or the engineer that did the plan, 1745 01:24:48.520 --> 01:24:50.960 or or too bad, so sad. 1746 01:24:51.039 --> 01:24:53.439 Well, I think no matter what, so much time has 1747 01:24:53.520 --> 01:24:57.000 passed that the there's gonna be no chance of going 1748 01:24:57.079 --> 01:25:00.760 back now and dealing with that. I think as long 1749 01:25:00.800 --> 01:25:03.439 as all the rules were followed, there's a very little recourse. 1750 01:25:03.600 --> 01:25:04.359 I think so too. 1751 01:25:04.520 --> 01:25:07.760 Or surface water running off onto an adjacent property. I mean, 1752 01:25:08.039 --> 01:25:09.920 I don't I don't know everything. 1753 01:25:10.159 --> 01:25:16.880 It's getting progressively worse, I'm sure, And I mean, let's 1754 01:25:16.960 --> 01:25:21.159 let me just tell you. It goes under my I 1755 01:25:21.279 --> 01:25:23.960 have a carport. It goes under my car port and 1756 01:25:24.359 --> 01:25:27.920 rises up, so I have like watermarks across my carport. 1757 01:25:29.079 --> 01:25:30.760 Is it just your house, Stephanie. 1758 01:25:30.880 --> 01:25:33.000 Have you tried to do anything with French strange or 1759 01:25:33.079 --> 01:25:35.119 to mitigate the damage at all, or even a big 1760 01:25:35.199 --> 01:25:35.760 sump pump. 1761 01:25:38.640 --> 01:25:41.399 It's in both of my neighbors. It goes because it 1762 01:25:41.720 --> 01:25:43.520 goes all the way to the front of my property. 1763 01:25:43.600 --> 01:25:46.000 It's cracked the street in the front of my house. 1764 01:25:46.279 --> 01:25:48.479 I mean, we're not talking a little bit of water. 1765 01:25:48.560 --> 01:25:51.199 We're talking a lot. I had a civil engineer come 1766 01:25:51.279 --> 01:25:56.439 over last year and do a survey on my yard 1767 01:25:57.039 --> 01:26:00.239 at the backyard to make sure it wasn't had because 1768 01:26:00.239 --> 01:26:01.119 they turned around. 1769 01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:03.039 That Oh it's mother nature, what they said. 1770 01:26:04.680 --> 01:26:06.800 And they're like, you know, water moods and stuff like that, 1771 01:26:06.920 --> 01:26:09.079 and it doesn't have anything to do with me. And 1772 01:26:09.479 --> 01:26:12.279 I have a support wall in the back of my 1773 01:26:12.439 --> 01:26:14.880 house that was built the same by my house was 1774 01:26:14.960 --> 01:26:18.239 in nineteen fifty seven, and when I bought my house 1775 01:26:18.359 --> 01:26:22.159 nine years ago, that wall was in perfect condition. The 1776 01:26:22.319 --> 01:26:26.239 wall is leaning towards my house by thirty degrees. 1777 01:26:26.399 --> 01:26:29.119 And my sense, yeah, but you're in that case. 1778 01:26:29.159 --> 01:26:31.720 I mean you're talking almost what is that seventy five 1779 01:26:31.920 --> 01:26:36.600 years and I get it, it's all from there. But Stephanie, 1780 01:26:36.640 --> 01:26:39.680 here's what I want to do. Hold on a second. 1781 01:26:39.960 --> 01:26:44.000 I want to get Bradley O'Brien on. So I want 1782 01:26:44.039 --> 01:26:46.399 to ask him because this is the kind of attorney 1783 01:26:46.439 --> 01:26:49.199 you would hire for something like this. So let's ask 1784 01:26:49.319 --> 01:26:52.880 him his advice. Is it passed the statute to limitations? 1785 01:26:53.159 --> 01:26:55.000 I mean, I've got a ton of questions on this. 1786 01:26:55.159 --> 01:26:58.319 I just don't know the answers to, but he will do. 1787 01:26:58.800 --> 01:27:00.920 I do want to ask you this. So, have you 1788 01:27:01.079 --> 01:27:04.479 literally just called Denver or whoever built a school or 1789 01:27:04.880 --> 01:27:07.359 is in charge of that soccer field being done, and 1790 01:27:07.520 --> 01:27:10.319 had a real conversation like this is crazy, and what 1791 01:27:10.439 --> 01:27:11.000 do they say? 1792 01:27:11.279 --> 01:27:13.560 Are they the ones telling you it's just mother nature? 1793 01:27:15.439 --> 01:27:18.520 I have called the school. I have called wastewater. I 1794 01:27:18.720 --> 01:27:23.000 have called stower water. I have called I have electrical 1795 01:27:23.119 --> 01:27:26.319 pulls on the prop my property, so I have called 1796 01:27:26.399 --> 01:27:27.479 Denver Electric. 1797 01:27:27.640 --> 01:27:31.720 I have called the Have you ever hold on have you. 1798 01:27:31.800 --> 01:27:35.439 Ever called the city and County of Denver themselves? Yes, 1799 01:27:35.560 --> 01:27:37.960 I assume it's their property. And what do they say? 1800 01:27:39.640 --> 01:27:39.800 They? 1801 01:27:39.960 --> 01:27:42.520 Okay, so they all say it has nothing to do 1802 01:27:42.640 --> 01:27:47.640 with them. So wastewater says, because the water isn't flowing 1803 01:27:48.039 --> 01:27:52.800 over and up above that it doesn't have anything to 1804 01:27:52.880 --> 01:27:56.079 do with them. And I'm like, oh my god, this 1805 01:27:56.199 --> 01:27:58.640 is insane. If you come and look at my property, 1806 01:27:58.720 --> 01:28:02.720 you will be in in regard to you saying it's 1807 01:28:02.800 --> 01:28:05.000 not still a case to seven years, it's going it's 1808 01:28:05.119 --> 01:28:06.159 ongoing dammage. 1809 01:28:06.239 --> 01:28:09.239 Now, I'm just talking about arguing anything that happens to 1810 01:28:09.359 --> 01:28:12.000 a wall or retaining wall over a seventy five year 1811 01:28:12.119 --> 01:28:14.239 period is a hell of a stretch to make. 1812 01:28:14.359 --> 01:28:16.119 I mean, that's that's all I'm saying. 1813 01:28:16.239 --> 01:28:17.359 I believe it has to. 1814 01:28:17.399 --> 01:28:20.720 Do one with the soccer field. That wasn't my point 1815 01:28:20.760 --> 01:28:20.960 on that. 1816 01:28:21.039 --> 01:28:22.560 I'm going I just don't know what you do on 1817 01:28:22.640 --> 01:28:25.760 a wall that's seventy five years old. It's starting to move. 1818 01:28:26.079 --> 01:28:28.039 But hold on a second. Let's try to get Bradley 1819 01:28:28.079 --> 01:28:28.680 O'Brien up. 1820 01:28:34.359 --> 01:28:37.600 Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel Roofing 1821 01:28:37.720 --> 01:28:38.119 dot com. 1822 01:28:38.319 --> 01:28:40.319 You don't pay a cent until you're content. 1823 01:28:43.720 --> 01:28:47.239 Time for an insurance checkup free, no obligation comparison call 1824 01:28:47.399 --> 01:28:50.680 Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens of 1825 01:28:50.720 --> 01:28:53.399 insurance companies find out now three oh three seven to 1826 01:28:53.439 --> 01:28:56.239 seven to one help. You'll think you're his only customer 1827 01:28:56.279 --> 01:28:58.479 when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot 1828 01:28:58.600 --> 01:29:01.880 com to list your home with Remax Alliance three oh 1829 01:29:01.920 --> 01:29:03.840 three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. 1830 01:29:21.079 --> 01:29:23.359 All right, three oh three seven one three A two 1831 01:29:23.479 --> 01:29:23.880 five five. 1832 01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:27.640 Kelly's still trying to get Bradley O'Brien on, So you 1833 01:29:27.880 --> 01:29:30.800 just keep holding there, Stephanie. I want to get the 1834 01:29:30.880 --> 01:29:31.680 attorney on with this. 1835 01:29:31.880 --> 01:29:32.000 Now. 1836 01:29:32.079 --> 01:29:34.319 This say is working with Doc by the way, we 1837 01:29:34.399 --> 01:29:37.279 have two lines open three zero three seven one three 1838 01:29:37.600 --> 01:29:41.720 eight two five five Any questions for John on personal injury? 1839 01:29:41.760 --> 01:29:44.800 Is the guy with the basement inslation, So give me 1840 01:29:44.960 --> 01:29:47.880 give us a little update though, what not an update 1841 01:29:47.960 --> 01:29:49.960 before I go to him? But what was the initial call? 1842 01:29:50.079 --> 01:29:50.279 Doc? 1843 01:29:50.720 --> 01:29:54.199 Well, he was he was trying to finish a part 1844 01:29:54.279 --> 01:29:54.920 of his basement. 1845 01:29:55.000 --> 01:29:56.560 Oh yeah, I remember this one. 1846 01:29:56.960 --> 01:30:00.560 And he was having some trouble because they want them 1847 01:30:00.640 --> 01:30:03.199 to do the entire basement yup, and not just the 1848 01:30:03.319 --> 01:30:05.239 area that was going to be finished. 1849 01:30:05.319 --> 01:30:08.119 Yeah, so it's it's it's kind of crazy. 1850 01:30:08.279 --> 01:30:10.479 So Keith called in I think it was even yesterday, 1851 01:30:10.600 --> 01:30:13.279 it was yesterday, and he's just doing one room down 1852 01:30:13.359 --> 01:30:16.479 in his basement. So when you walk down the basement stairs, 1853 01:30:16.680 --> 01:30:20.119 there's basically the room, and he finished that room. It's 1854 01:30:20.159 --> 01:30:22.439 going to be a bedroom. He's done the electrical, he's 1855 01:30:22.479 --> 01:30:26.159 done the mechanical, everything passed the inspection. Proper windows yup, 1856 01:30:26.199 --> 01:30:29.439 he's got the egress window. He's got everything he needs 1857 01:30:29.479 --> 01:30:33.960 to do, and everything more importantly has passed inspection, the framing, everything, 1858 01:30:34.039 --> 01:30:38.119 he's done plumbing, so he does insulation. Now when you 1859 01:30:38.199 --> 01:30:41.359 do insulation, once again, you got a call for you 1860 01:30:41.439 --> 01:30:43.720 got to pull the permit and you call for inspection. 1861 01:30:43.840 --> 01:30:46.159 He came out and the guy failed it. The reason 1862 01:30:46.239 --> 01:30:49.439 he failed it is says you have to do the 1863 01:30:49.800 --> 01:30:53.800 entire basement, not just the room you're doing. And he's like, well, 1864 01:30:53.840 --> 01:30:55.359 I don't have that kind of money to do the 1865 01:30:55.600 --> 01:30:59.920 entire thing. That would cost me about another ten grand. So, Keith, 1866 01:31:00.119 --> 01:31:01.680 what is the newest update on this? 1867 01:31:02.960 --> 01:31:03.399 Hi? 1868 01:31:03.560 --> 01:31:07.720 Tom So, I got a call from the county from 1869 01:31:08.039 --> 01:31:11.439 his name is Mike actually, but he called me and 1870 01:31:11.520 --> 01:31:14.000 said that he's gonna go ahead and then approve me 1871 01:31:14.159 --> 01:31:16.880 to go on to the rough drywall portion. 1872 01:31:17.239 --> 01:31:17.479 Nice. 1873 01:31:17.680 --> 01:31:21.199 However, however, he's put it just as a note. They 1874 01:31:21.319 --> 01:31:24.239 still are going to request that I have to finish 1875 01:31:24.439 --> 01:31:26.199 the entire basement, not only that. 1876 01:31:26.920 --> 01:31:29.840 Well wait a minute, just so, just so everybody understands, 1877 01:31:30.119 --> 01:31:33.760 you mean the entire basement, just the insulation on the 1878 01:31:34.199 --> 01:31:35.800 on the outside walls. 1879 01:31:37.399 --> 01:31:39.840 Well, that's what I originally thought. They added another one 1880 01:31:39.920 --> 01:31:42.840 to it. They now because I have TGI floor Joyce 1881 01:31:43.119 --> 01:31:44.640 that separate the basement. 1882 01:31:44.399 --> 01:31:46.920 To the upstairs. Yeah, they want me to all the. 1883 01:31:46.960 --> 01:31:49.239 Unfinished area that I haven't touched the thing in yet. 1884 01:31:49.600 --> 01:31:52.920 They want me to insulate everything between the tg ice 1885 01:31:53.199 --> 01:31:55.319 and that's going to cost about twenty two thousand for 1886 01:31:55.399 --> 01:31:55.640 all that. 1887 01:31:56.079 --> 01:31:58.119 So but they're going to sign off and let you 1888 01:31:58.239 --> 01:32:00.720 put drywall up and complete it. So how are they 1889 01:32:00.840 --> 01:32:02.159 going to No, No. 1890 01:32:02.319 --> 01:32:04.199 They won't let me complete it. They won't let me 1891 01:32:04.279 --> 01:32:07.319 call in my final. They won't approve the final until 1892 01:32:07.359 --> 01:32:10.159 all the insulation is done, plus the insallation. Now they 1893 01:32:10.199 --> 01:32:11.199 want between the TGI. 1894 01:32:11.600 --> 01:32:12.520 Now a big kicker on. 1895 01:32:12.560 --> 01:32:17.399 This, Tom Keith, Keith, Keith, hold on a second, man, 1896 01:32:17.479 --> 01:32:21.279 you live there, This is like your primary residence, right, correct, 1897 01:32:21.520 --> 01:32:24.720 So when you are allowed to finish that room, now, 1898 01:32:24.840 --> 01:32:26.840 let's just get really back to basics. 1899 01:32:26.920 --> 01:32:30.920 Correct, Well, not without inspections. 1900 01:32:30.960 --> 01:32:32.479 I'm not going to be able to get an occupancy. 1901 01:32:32.600 --> 01:32:35.439 And I understand on the CEO, I got that. I 1902 01:32:35.560 --> 01:32:37.119 heard that. Believe it or not, I heard that. 1903 01:32:37.560 --> 01:32:40.039 But they will let you. It sounds like they will 1904 01:32:40.119 --> 01:32:44.359 let you finish this project. What they're saying is you're 1905 01:32:44.439 --> 01:32:47.520 not going to get stamped until you do the other 1906 01:32:47.640 --> 01:32:49.159 stuff at the very end. 1907 01:32:49.319 --> 01:32:49.439 Is that? 1908 01:32:49.720 --> 01:32:50.399 Am I correct? 1909 01:32:50.439 --> 01:32:52.640 So you can finish the room and use the room, 1910 01:32:53.119 --> 01:32:55.640 but they're basically not going to do a final. 1911 01:32:56.680 --> 01:32:58.239 They won't issue an occupancy. 1912 01:32:58.359 --> 01:33:03.039 So basically technically is even though I'm finishing it, I've 1913 01:33:03.079 --> 01:33:05.840 got to finish room down there. But technically they I 1914 01:33:06.000 --> 01:33:07.840 cannot allow somebody to stay down there. 1915 01:33:07.760 --> 01:33:10.079 Because of some but you can't. 1916 01:33:10.159 --> 01:33:12.960 We agree, they're not going to be sending the police 1917 01:33:13.039 --> 01:33:16.439 out there to see if anybody's down there. Basically, here's 1918 01:33:16.479 --> 01:33:18.680 what I'm hearing you say, and I don't think you're 1919 01:33:18.720 --> 01:33:20.920 hearing the same thing, which is crazy, because it's you 1920 01:33:21.039 --> 01:33:23.920 i'm hearing it from. I think he's saying, Look, we're 1921 01:33:23.920 --> 01:33:26.279 going to let you finish this, but you're not going 1922 01:33:26.359 --> 01:33:29.439 to get the final until the insallation's done. And during 1923 01:33:29.520 --> 01:33:32.560 the phone call yesterday, you were eventually going to do 1924 01:33:32.680 --> 01:33:34.359 that insulation anyhow, weren't you. 1925 01:33:34.680 --> 01:33:36.960 You just didn't have the money for it right now. 1926 01:33:37.760 --> 01:33:40.720 Right framing it down so every six months you'd have 1927 01:33:40.840 --> 01:33:43.640 to pull an inspection, whether it fail or pass, to 1928 01:33:43.760 --> 01:33:46.479 be able to for that permit to keep continuing every 1929 01:33:46.520 --> 01:33:47.159 six mont. 1930 01:33:47.239 --> 01:33:49.600 Why wouldn't you just let it lapse at that point? 1931 01:33:49.680 --> 01:33:52.600 Though then I would pay a fine port and have 1932 01:33:52.680 --> 01:33:54.840 to reopen it and start the process all over again. 1933 01:33:54.920 --> 01:33:56.439 He said, it just there's a lot of red tape. 1934 01:33:56.520 --> 01:33:57.960 This is what he's telling me. 1935 01:33:58.199 --> 01:33:59.439 This is what he's telling you. 1936 01:33:59.520 --> 01:34:02.760 I think I have to say, is this almost build 1937 01:34:02.800 --> 01:34:03.880 in two thousand and one? 1938 01:34:04.560 --> 01:34:07.119 They Yeah, they've changed the building coach. 1939 01:34:07.960 --> 01:34:11.439 No, even back then, this home was up to that code. 1940 01:34:11.800 --> 01:34:14.319 They he his exact words to me. When that home 1941 01:34:14.439 --> 01:34:18.000 was built for the original occupation, for the original occupancy 1942 01:34:18.119 --> 01:34:21.239 for it, they should have accept or should have asked 1943 01:34:21.279 --> 01:34:23.920 and requested for that basement to be insulated. Yeah, but 1944 01:34:24.199 --> 01:34:24.760 they missed it. 1945 01:34:25.000 --> 01:34:27.800 That's fine, I get it. That's twenty four years ago. 1946 01:34:27.880 --> 01:34:29.439 You're not going to do anything about that. 1947 01:34:30.159 --> 01:34:32.359 But now they're trying to make me do something about it. 1948 01:34:32.479 --> 01:34:34.960 I get it. But there's no relevancy to what happened 1949 01:34:34.960 --> 01:34:37.119 twenty four years ago with the builder. I mean, that's 1950 01:34:37.199 --> 01:34:39.720 not even it's really not even a part of the conversation. 1951 01:34:39.960 --> 01:34:40.880 Hey, it sucks. 1952 01:34:41.760 --> 01:34:43.720 I have a question, are you are you trying to 1953 01:34:43.800 --> 01:34:44.680 wrect out that room. 1954 01:34:46.359 --> 01:34:47.880 No, it's gonna be for their. 1955 01:34:48.199 --> 01:34:49.159 Right, So who's going to know? 1956 01:34:50.399 --> 01:34:52.880 I mean, why why wouldn't you just use it and 1957 01:34:53.000 --> 01:34:54.680 don't worry about it if it's just going to be 1958 01:34:55.119 --> 01:34:56.239 you know, friends and family. 1959 01:34:56.479 --> 01:34:58.239 That's what I was trying to ask him. He's saying 1960 01:34:58.279 --> 01:35:00.279 there's going to be all these penalties, and he got 1961 01:35:00.399 --> 01:35:02.720 to renew a permit every six months and all these 1962 01:35:02.760 --> 01:35:05.439 other things, and I really, you know, I'll go back 1963 01:35:05.479 --> 01:35:08.119 to that same question now the doc asked it, But 1964 01:35:08.399 --> 01:35:13.239 why why simply just get it finished or get it 1965 01:35:13.399 --> 01:35:17.840 ready for use and then don't worry about it, don't 1966 01:35:17.880 --> 01:35:20.640 renew the permit, don't do anything. It's not like they're 1967 01:35:20.640 --> 01:35:22.119 going to come knocking on the door. 1968 01:35:23.399 --> 01:35:23.560 Right. 1969 01:35:23.680 --> 01:35:26.079 But now, let's say life happens and in two years 1970 01:35:26.119 --> 01:35:28.119 I decided it's not finished and I'm going to sell 1971 01:35:28.199 --> 01:35:28.479 the home. 1972 01:35:28.640 --> 01:35:31.800 Yeah, then you then you've got to finish it, or 1973 01:35:32.159 --> 01:35:37.159 actually you still don't. You simply have to disclose what happened. 1974 01:35:37.439 --> 01:35:40.439 A lot of people people don't realize this. You can 1975 01:35:40.520 --> 01:35:42.880 do your own work, you can finish your own basement 1976 01:35:43.239 --> 01:35:45.760 and not pull permits. But when you sell the house, 1977 01:35:45.800 --> 01:35:48.960 you better you better tell whoever's gonna buy it, you 1978 01:35:49.119 --> 01:35:50.199 better disclose it. 1979 01:35:50.520 --> 01:35:53.239 So you simply disclose it. Hey, I did this. They 1980 01:35:53.319 --> 01:35:55.600 wanted me to do insulation everywhere else. 1981 01:35:55.920 --> 01:35:58.680 I wasn't ready to spend forty thousand dollars, so we 1982 01:35:58.920 --> 01:36:02.159 just did this part and we never got the final permit. 1983 01:36:02.279 --> 01:36:04.640 I mean, that's it's not that big of a deal, Keith. 1984 01:36:04.880 --> 01:36:07.600 I mean it would be nicer if everything was done 1985 01:36:07.640 --> 01:36:08.560 when you go to sell it. 1986 01:36:08.880 --> 01:36:11.119 But I don't think it's that big of a deal. 1987 01:36:11.319 --> 01:36:14.960 I mean I really don't. In fact, Okay, let me 1988 01:36:15.039 --> 01:36:17.520 do this. I want to try to. I want to 1989 01:36:17.600 --> 01:36:19.920 try to prove it to you. Let's get Frank Ran, 1990 01:36:20.000 --> 01:36:21.680 the real estate man on. I want to get a 1991 01:36:21.760 --> 01:36:25.079 real opinion on what the disclosures say and does he 1992 01:36:25.239 --> 01:36:27.159 really think that's going to be a big idea what 1993 01:36:27.279 --> 01:36:30.560 he sells? But just hold on, all right. I like 1994 01:36:30.640 --> 01:36:33.079 the fact they're just going to let him finish on it. 1995 01:36:33.640 --> 01:36:35.640 But let's see what Frank says. And Keith, if you 1996 01:36:35.720 --> 01:36:39.239 want to just listen in. I mean, John, everybody in 1997 01:36:39.319 --> 01:36:41.840 here has owned a house or at one point. I 1998 01:36:41.960 --> 01:36:44.199 assume you've owned so many rental properties. 1999 01:36:44.239 --> 01:36:45.239 Bo you still do. 2000 01:36:45.399 --> 01:36:48.239 I have a suggestion for Keith, what is well? First off, 2001 01:36:48.319 --> 01:36:49.640 what municipality is. 2002 01:36:49.680 --> 01:36:50.439 This in Hey? 2003 01:36:50.600 --> 01:36:51.079 Where is it? 2004 01:36:51.279 --> 01:36:51.680 Where is it? 2005 01:36:51.800 --> 01:36:52.000 Keith? 2006 01:36:52.119 --> 01:36:55.880 Isn't it Denver? Oh that's right, Adam's County. 2007 01:36:56.359 --> 01:36:58.600 For Keith, I just just let it go. 2008 01:36:58.960 --> 01:37:02.399 And then the fine for renewing a permit it's only 2009 01:37:02.520 --> 01:37:04.640 like fifty two dollars. 2010 01:37:04.359 --> 01:37:06.560 And you wouldn't have to do that for whenever until 2011 01:37:06.560 --> 01:37:07.640 you're ready to finish it. 2012 01:37:07.760 --> 01:37:10.800 And there's another thing. If it's a financial hardship, you 2013 01:37:10.960 --> 01:37:15.199 can go to that county and request a hearing with 2014 01:37:15.359 --> 01:37:17.399 the appeals board and get a variance. 2015 01:37:17.760 --> 01:37:19.439 And we even talked to you, We talked to you 2016 01:37:19.479 --> 01:37:22.079 about a variance yesterday. Did you even pursue that? 2017 01:37:23.319 --> 01:37:26.520 No, I know, I just got a call from him yesterday. 2018 01:37:26.680 --> 01:37:29.479 I would do the paperwork on it. Man, go request it, 2019 01:37:29.680 --> 01:37:30.600 just like BO said. 2020 01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:32.680 I mean, just say, hey, you know, I don't have 2021 01:37:32.800 --> 01:37:36.600 the money for this, but I do want to hear 2022 01:37:36.680 --> 01:37:39.319 on that realtor aspect of it. But Bo, where I 2023 01:37:39.560 --> 01:37:43.439 was going with you is, or with John, or with 2024 01:37:43.520 --> 01:37:46.319 anybody in the room. Over the years, I mean, have 2025 01:37:46.560 --> 01:37:48.800 you not done work in your house where you're supposed 2026 01:37:48.840 --> 01:37:50.640 to pull a permit? It did not. 2027 01:37:50.880 --> 01:37:52.159 I don't care if you were ever. 2028 01:37:52.640 --> 01:37:56.039 I refinished my whole game exactly. I refinished my whole 2029 01:37:56.119 --> 01:38:00.359 basement without a permit. I did too in my last house. 2030 01:38:00.640 --> 01:38:01.520 Perish the thought. 2031 01:38:01.920 --> 01:38:05.319 I mean, I hired electricians, I hired everybody that knew 2032 01:38:05.359 --> 01:38:07.880 what they were doing. So I didn't worry about that, 2033 01:38:08.000 --> 01:38:09.239 but I didn't pull the permits. 2034 01:38:09.399 --> 01:38:11.760 And when I eventually sell the property, I'm just going 2035 01:38:11.840 --> 01:38:14.000 to put on the real estate form that no permit 2036 01:38:14.159 --> 01:38:14.600 was taken. 2037 01:38:14.800 --> 01:38:18.159 Yeah, you just basically we'll talk about the disclosures. Let's 2038 01:38:18.199 --> 01:38:19.800 take this break so we're not up the top of 2039 01:38:19.840 --> 01:38:22.319 the hour. I got two lines open three zero three 2040 01:38:22.920 --> 01:38:24.640 seven one three A two five y five. 2041 01:38:29.680 --> 01:38:32.920 Go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing 2042 01:38:33.039 --> 01:38:35.680 dot com. You don't pay a cent until you're content. 2043 01:38:39.039 --> 01:38:42.199 Time for an insurance check up free, no obligation. In comparison, 2044 01:38:42.359 --> 01:38:45.920 call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens 2045 01:38:45.960 --> 01:38:48.680 of insurance companies find out now three O three seven 2046 01:38:48.800 --> 01:38:51.560 seven to one help. You'll think you're his only customer 2047 01:38:51.640 --> 01:38:53.800 when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot 2048 01:38:53.920 --> 01:38:57.199 com to list your home with Remax Alliance three oh 2049 01:38:57.279 --> 01:38:59.159 three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. 2050 01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:03.840 All right, three oh three seven one three eight. 2051 01:39:03.800 --> 01:39:06.079 Two five five. By the way, join us on YouTube 2052 01:39:06.720 --> 01:39:09.800 at any time. We always have conversations going behind the scenes. 2053 01:39:09.920 --> 01:39:12.479 During the breaks. You can hear us talk just to 2054 01:39:12.520 --> 01:39:15.279 give you the idea we were talking about diving during 2055 01:39:15.319 --> 01:39:17.159 this last one. But now I want to go back 2056 01:39:17.199 --> 01:39:19.800 to Keith in his basement issue and I'm going to 2057 01:39:19.880 --> 01:39:21.760 kind of lock him up. But I brought up her expert, 2058 01:39:21.840 --> 01:39:24.479 Frank drand the real estate man. First of all, Frank, 2059 01:39:24.560 --> 01:39:27.520 how are you doing, sir Mark good to hear. 2060 01:39:27.359 --> 01:39:27.840 Of your friend. 2061 01:39:27.880 --> 01:39:28.560 I'm doing great. 2062 01:39:28.640 --> 01:39:31.039 We're running like crazy and putting these homes under contract 2063 01:39:31.119 --> 01:39:32.840 right unless it's been really good, thank god. 2064 01:39:33.000 --> 01:39:35.920 Anytime I talk to Frank, it's crazy. So we do 2065 01:39:36.039 --> 01:39:38.840 advertising for Frank and I personally speak for him all 2066 01:39:38.880 --> 01:39:42.239 the time. And what's really funny is anytime I talk 2067 01:39:42.319 --> 01:39:44.640 to him, I'm like, how's biz? And it's crazy because 2068 01:39:44.680 --> 01:39:47.319 it's busier and busier. I'll talk to other realtors that 2069 01:39:47.359 --> 01:39:50.279 are like, well, they might get one or two listings 2070 01:39:50.319 --> 01:39:56.399 a month, maybe, Frank, I swear there is weeks where 2071 01:39:56.439 --> 01:40:00.920 you'll get five to ten listings. It's absolute lutely amazing, 2072 01:40:01.039 --> 01:40:02.439 and it's because of how good you are. 2073 01:40:02.479 --> 01:40:04.319 I don't care what anybody says. 2074 01:40:04.439 --> 01:40:07.680 You get more than the average realtor for the house, 2075 01:40:07.840 --> 01:40:10.399 and you sell more than the average realtor. Isn't it 2076 01:40:10.520 --> 01:40:10.800 isn't it? 2077 01:40:10.880 --> 01:40:11.119 Really? 2078 01:40:11.239 --> 01:40:13.119 What does the average realtor selling a year. 2079 01:40:13.199 --> 01:40:16.520 Frank, you know, statistically, I've seen stats that says the 2080 01:40:16.560 --> 01:40:20.039 average realtor closes less than maybe seven transactions a year. 2081 01:40:20.720 --> 01:40:23.399 Sees Yeah, so that's ye. 2082 01:40:23.560 --> 01:40:26.439 That seems to be pretty pretty typical. I guess, you know, 2083 01:40:26.920 --> 01:40:27.640 for average. 2084 01:40:27.800 --> 01:40:29.640 Now, I love how he will never too to his 2085 01:40:29.720 --> 01:40:33.079 own horn. He would never answer. He knows my next question, 2086 01:40:33.199 --> 01:40:35.960 but he's not going to go there. How many did 2087 01:40:36.039 --> 01:40:38.720 you sell last year? Let's take something very recent. 2088 01:40:39.439 --> 01:40:42.920 Oh, gosh, we closed gosh a little over I think 2089 01:40:42.920 --> 01:40:45.880 one hundred transactions market and back. We just put ten 2090 01:40:46.000 --> 01:40:49.520 under contract listing size plus buyers. So we've been moving 2091 01:40:49.600 --> 01:40:51.760 them and getting good prices and all price ranges. 2092 01:40:51.840 --> 01:40:52.159 All right. 2093 01:40:52.279 --> 01:40:52.640 So there. 2094 01:40:52.760 --> 01:40:54.680 I mean, that's why I talk about you all the time. 2095 01:40:54.680 --> 01:40:56.560 I want people to really hear it. I always talk 2096 01:40:56.600 --> 01:40:59.760 about those stats, but I'm way off. I say, you know, 2097 01:41:00.880 --> 01:41:05.279 you sell way more in a month than the average. 2098 01:41:05.279 --> 01:41:07.720 Wiltear way more. It's not my numbers are even wrong. 2099 01:41:07.800 --> 01:41:10.000 I gotta update my copy. But let me ask you 2100 01:41:10.159 --> 01:41:13.880 this man, how many times are you selling a house 2101 01:41:14.720 --> 01:41:18.760 where someone did a bathroom and they didn't pull a 2102 01:41:18.800 --> 01:41:21.880 permit upgraded a bathroom or probably the biggest one out there. 2103 01:41:21.920 --> 01:41:24.159 And what we're talking about with Keith right now is 2104 01:41:24.319 --> 01:41:26.840 actually did a room in the basement. Now, he did 2105 01:41:26.960 --> 01:41:29.600 everything properly, So I want to explain something to you, Frank. 2106 01:41:30.199 --> 01:41:34.479 He actually had everything inspected, he's had electrical, he's hired 2107 01:41:34.520 --> 01:41:38.399 the right people, he's had the inspections. Denver comes over 2108 01:41:38.520 --> 01:41:41.079 and checks or I'm sorry, Adams County comes over and 2109 01:41:41.319 --> 01:41:44.600 everything has gone perfectly. They got to one part, which 2110 01:41:44.720 --> 01:41:49.880 is the insulation. And because things have changed or because 2111 01:41:50.159 --> 01:41:53.399 the builder twenty three years ago did not do the 2112 01:41:53.520 --> 01:41:57.800 right thing, they he needs to insulate all kinds of 2113 01:41:57.880 --> 01:42:00.439 things besides the one room he's doing in the basement. 2114 01:42:00.720 --> 01:42:03.119 So bottom line is he's going to finish it up 2115 01:42:03.920 --> 01:42:06.520 and he's not planning on moving right now. But when 2116 01:42:06.560 --> 01:42:08.600 he does go to move, he's going to have a 2117 01:42:08.680 --> 01:42:12.359 beautiful room. That's been the electrician and everybody's signed off on. 2118 01:42:12.640 --> 01:42:15.079 But he's never going to get the final. Let's say 2119 01:42:15.479 --> 01:42:19.000 he never gets that final on that job or on 2120 01:42:19.119 --> 01:42:22.520 that permit he pulled for that room because he doesn't 2121 01:42:22.560 --> 01:42:24.720 want to insulate the rest of the basement because it's 2122 01:42:24.760 --> 01:42:28.079 going to cost him twenty forty thousand dollars whatever it is. 2123 01:42:28.439 --> 01:42:30.880 So when you list a house like that, I know 2124 01:42:31.000 --> 01:42:34.520 there's a disclosure for him, but in reality, to people 2125 01:42:34.680 --> 01:42:37.359 care if it was done right. I mean, everybody would 2126 01:42:37.399 --> 01:42:39.720 love to see the final in the permit, But how 2127 01:42:39.800 --> 01:42:42.039 does that work in the real world when you're selling 2128 01:42:42.159 --> 01:42:42.720 that house? 2129 01:42:43.319 --> 01:42:45.720 Well, you know, Mark, great question. In fact, I'll tell 2130 01:42:45.720 --> 01:42:47.279 you there's a number of these homes we sell in 2131 01:42:47.359 --> 01:42:50.079 that situation. There is a spot on the seller's property 2132 01:42:50.119 --> 01:42:52.680 disclosure and it specifically says that or it asks if 2133 01:42:52.720 --> 01:42:55.560 there's any additions or non aesthetic alterations made without a 2134 01:42:55.600 --> 01:42:58.720 building permit. So if that's the case, you just simply Mark, yes, 2135 01:42:58.800 --> 01:43:01.199 you explain the situation. And you know, I can't even 2136 01:43:01.279 --> 01:43:03.359 recall any time I've ever had a buyer just not 2137 01:43:03.479 --> 01:43:05.520 buy a house over that. I've never had one not 2138 01:43:05.680 --> 01:43:07.960 to close over that. So I think the key is 2139 01:43:08.039 --> 01:43:10.359 just disclosure up front and everybody's happy. 2140 01:43:10.920 --> 01:43:11.079 Yeah. 2141 01:43:11.199 --> 01:43:13.640 So, I mean, do you have any questions after here 2142 01:43:13.680 --> 01:43:16.479 and a guy that sells more homes than virtually any 2143 01:43:16.520 --> 01:43:17.720 other realtor in the. 2144 01:43:17.800 --> 01:43:20.319 State of Colorado per year, if. 2145 01:43:20.279 --> 01:43:23.319 Not every realtor, Keith, I mean, he's saying and he's 2146 01:43:23.359 --> 01:43:26.479 saying out of the thousand homes he's sold, it's never 2147 01:43:26.600 --> 01:43:27.239 been an issue. 2148 01:43:28.119 --> 01:43:30.880 Well, I guess my biggest question, My biggest concern is 2149 01:43:31.159 --> 01:43:33.640 what's led to this whole conversation. So I bought it 2150 01:43:33.720 --> 01:43:37.000 at the three three bedroom, three bath homes. So now 2151 01:43:37.239 --> 01:43:39.840 it's a four bedroom and it'll soon be a you know, 2152 01:43:39.920 --> 01:43:40.760 a four bath home. 2153 01:43:40.840 --> 01:43:43.960 So different wait wait, wait, Keith, different issue because I'll 2154 01:43:43.960 --> 01:43:46.560 tell you why it's in a basement. Frank, please explain that. 2155 01:43:48.640 --> 01:43:50.520 In other words, if it's a nonconforming mark, is that 2156 01:43:50.560 --> 01:43:51.039 what you're asking? 2157 01:43:51.199 --> 01:43:52.720 Well, it's actually conforming. 2158 01:43:52.840 --> 01:43:56.279 But my understanding was if it's in the basement and 2159 01:43:56.399 --> 01:43:59.600 you added it on the basement, doesn't count for the 2160 01:43:59.680 --> 01:44:00.520 square footage. 2161 01:44:00.560 --> 01:44:02.319 But that's that's why I have you on. 2162 01:44:02.520 --> 01:44:05.560 Frank. I like when you list it now that it's 2163 01:44:05.920 --> 01:44:09.479 four bedroom in X amount of baths because he's doing these, 2164 01:44:10.079 --> 01:44:11.239 I mean, how does that work. 2165 01:44:11.800 --> 01:44:13.439 The only key mark on that is. 2166 01:44:13.479 --> 01:44:14.319 You just disclose it. 2167 01:44:14.399 --> 01:44:15.119 That's all this is. 2168 01:44:15.359 --> 01:44:17.399 You can show actually what the square footage is, but 2169 01:44:17.479 --> 01:44:20.920 then put the disclosure in there that there's no permit. 2170 01:44:20.840 --> 01:44:22.920 Or okay, listen, I'm sorry, hold on. I'm going to 2171 01:44:22.960 --> 01:44:24.880 put you both on hold if you want to hang. Hey, 2172 01:44:24.960 --> 01:44:28.560 Frank Durand the real Estate Man Frank Duran Homes dot com. Frank, 2173 01:44:28.640 --> 01:44:31.119 if you want Kelly to call you back, She'll get 2174 01:44:31.199 --> 01:44:33.479 with you. 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You'll think you're his only customer 2183 01:44:57.199 --> 01:44:59.640 when you choose Frank durand the real Estate Man dot com. 2184 01:45:00.079 --> 01:45:03.239 List your home with Remax Alliance three all three nine 2185 01:45:03.279 --> 01:45:04.920 two zero sixteen twenty two. 2186 01:45:10.319 --> 01:45:10.680 Ripped. 2187 01:45:12.000 --> 01:45:15.279 Welcome back to the only show of it's kind on 2188 01:45:15.359 --> 01:45:18.000 the radio. This is the Tom Martinez Show, where they've 2189 01:45:18.039 --> 01:45:21.520 been solving problems, answering questions, and taking complaints for consumers 2190 01:45:21.640 --> 01:45:25.159 for more than fifty years. If you can believe that, 2191 01:45:25.600 --> 01:45:28.640 my name is John Fuller, Mark has stepped away from 2192 01:45:28.760 --> 01:45:31.560 the microphone for a moment. He'll be right back, but 2193 01:45:31.800 --> 01:45:36.279 in the meantime, the you know, the Fox is away, 2194 01:45:36.760 --> 01:45:39.880 it's time for time for the John Show right now. 2195 01:45:40.039 --> 01:45:41.920 So we've got open lines. We're here to help you. 2196 01:45:42.119 --> 01:45:44.640 I am a personal injury attorney here in Denver, and 2197 01:45:45.039 --> 01:45:47.960 if you have questions along the lines of accident cases, 2198 01:45:48.039 --> 01:45:53.159 I'm always available to help answer your questions and help 2199 01:45:53.279 --> 01:45:54.640 you know steer you in the right direction. 2200 01:45:54.920 --> 01:45:56.399 So give us a call. 2201 01:45:56.520 --> 01:45:58.439 The phone number here is three oh three seven one 2202 01:45:58.560 --> 01:46:03.920 three eight to Today's a special day for my firm. 2203 01:46:04.079 --> 01:46:07.000 For the last several months, we have been working on 2204 01:46:07.239 --> 01:46:11.079 a new website. I wanted to direct everybody's attention towards that. 2205 01:46:11.199 --> 01:46:13.279 And if you could just bomb the heck out of 2206 01:46:13.359 --> 01:46:16.920 my website and let Google know that we're we're here 2207 01:46:17.000 --> 01:46:19.840 and we're proud of This site is www dot personal 2208 01:46:19.920 --> 01:46:22.800 injuryco dot com. I would like for there to be 2209 01:46:22.840 --> 01:46:26.600 at least five thousand people out there that that type 2210 01:46:26.640 --> 01:46:28.560 that you are ln and go to the web page 2211 01:46:28.640 --> 01:46:30.640 let us know what you think about it. You can 2212 01:46:30.720 --> 01:46:33.439 either fill out a comment on the on the site itself, 2213 01:46:33.520 --> 01:46:35.479 send us an inquiry if you have a case that 2214 01:46:35.560 --> 01:46:37.520 we can be of assistant. Song We'd love to hear 2215 01:46:37.600 --> 01:46:39.720 from you and if you want to give us a 2216 01:46:39.760 --> 01:46:41.680 call here on the show and talk about that, you're 2217 01:46:41.680 --> 01:46:44.159 welcome to as well. We've got lots of crazy stuff 2218 01:46:44.199 --> 01:46:44.920 going to the world. 2219 01:46:45.079 --> 01:46:45.680 Questions for you. 2220 01:46:45.880 --> 01:46:50.039 Yeah, would you recommend that everybody if there is in 2221 01:46:50.560 --> 01:46:53.039 an accent that wasn't or even if it is at fault, 2222 01:46:53.359 --> 01:46:55.920 at least go to that primary care doctor if there's 2223 01:46:55.920 --> 01:46:59.279 any chance of an injury that might not manifest itself 2224 01:46:59.560 --> 01:47:01.479 right away, what would show up a day or two later. 2225 01:47:02.319 --> 01:47:02.520 Yeah. 2226 01:47:02.640 --> 01:47:05.800 So the thing to keep in mind with any sort 2227 01:47:05.840 --> 01:47:08.319 of injury case is that you have the burden of proof. 2228 01:47:08.600 --> 01:47:09.920 Okay, so what does that mean. 2229 01:47:10.039 --> 01:47:12.359 That means that that we kind of start from a 2230 01:47:12.439 --> 01:47:15.359 default position that you're not injured and everything is perfect, 2231 01:47:16.159 --> 01:47:21.600 and we're going to maintain that position until it's proven otherwise, 2232 01:47:21.720 --> 01:47:24.479 and you have the burden of proving that. So the 2233 01:47:24.600 --> 01:47:26.720 reason we tell people to go to the doctor right 2234 01:47:26.800 --> 01:47:29.039 away and to get checked out just as an abundance 2235 01:47:29.079 --> 01:47:30.920 of caution, is because if you wait a couple of 2236 01:47:30.960 --> 01:47:36.159 weeks and something comes up that you absolutely know is 2237 01:47:36.279 --> 01:47:39.520 related to the accident, you're going to be criticized for 2238 01:47:39.640 --> 01:47:42.920 taking that two weeks as a failure to mitigate and 2239 01:47:43.039 --> 01:47:46.159 that's actually a defense that the defense brings up in 2240 01:47:46.279 --> 01:47:49.680 our cases down the road. And it's not just a 2241 01:47:49.760 --> 01:47:52.039 little two week gap in treatment. It can be not 2242 01:47:52.199 --> 01:47:55.640 showing up for treatments. It can be you know, waiting 2243 01:47:55.760 --> 01:47:59.680 and doing home exercises or doing some non traditional, you know, 2244 01:48:00.039 --> 01:48:02.760 therapy method that you got off of Google or something. 2245 01:48:03.079 --> 01:48:06.119 Any of that stuff that you might do is going 2246 01:48:06.239 --> 01:48:08.760 to fall short of being able to prove that the 2247 01:48:08.920 --> 01:48:13.520 accident injuries were reasonable, necessary, and related back to the accident. 2248 01:48:13.720 --> 01:48:17.520 So whether it's an urgent care center, the er, your 2249 01:48:17.640 --> 01:48:21.439 primary care doctor really doesn't matter. It's the fact that 2250 01:48:21.560 --> 01:48:25.720 you now have a record that shows that you complained 2251 01:48:25.720 --> 01:48:28.520 about these injuries and related them to the accident. 2252 01:48:29.479 --> 01:48:32.680 So yeah, so proximity is significant. 2253 01:48:33.039 --> 01:48:37.359 Well, proximity, causation relatedness, everything like that Temple proximity. 2254 01:48:37.560 --> 01:48:38.399 Absolutely it is. 2255 01:48:38.600 --> 01:48:42.279 And so you know, we see some health organizations that 2256 01:48:43.199 --> 01:48:45.760 just really don't want to be involved in cases and 2257 01:48:45.840 --> 01:48:49.399 they take these absurd positions like, well, you know, I 2258 01:48:49.520 --> 01:48:52.880 don't need to be concerned about causation to know, you know, 2259 01:48:53.079 --> 01:48:53.920 the diagnosis. 2260 01:48:54.000 --> 01:48:56.359 So what does that mean? That means you can you 2261 01:48:56.439 --> 01:48:57.880 can wheel a guy in out of. 2262 01:48:57.880 --> 01:48:59.760 An ambulance that just came from the scene of an 2263 01:48:59.760 --> 01:49:02.800 act accident with a broken arm. And we've got some 2264 01:49:03.399 --> 01:49:06.479 practitioners in this state that say, I can look at 2265 01:49:06.520 --> 01:49:08.520 an X ray and diagnose the broken arm, but I 2266 01:49:08.600 --> 01:49:11.600 have no idea how it got there, you know, And 2267 01:49:11.720 --> 01:49:14.199 I don't need to know to be able to diagnose 2268 01:49:14.319 --> 01:49:19.399 that that broken arm. And so against that mindset, you 2269 01:49:19.560 --> 01:49:22.399 need to always be thinking that we've got to document 2270 01:49:22.560 --> 01:49:26.000 the temporal proximity, meaning the relation to the time of 2271 01:49:26.079 --> 01:49:29.920 the accident with the onset of the injury and everything else. 2272 01:49:30.039 --> 01:49:33.000 The better you do that up front, the better off 2273 01:49:33.039 --> 01:49:35.119 we're going to be down the road, and the ability 2274 01:49:35.159 --> 01:49:38.439 to prove those damages were caused by the accident, you know. 2275 01:49:39.239 --> 01:49:42.039 Okay, John, have a suggestion. I think you should give 2276 01:49:42.079 --> 01:49:44.479 out your website another time because it. 2277 01:49:44.520 --> 01:49:45.680 Went quick crazy. 2278 01:49:45.920 --> 01:49:51.680 Personal Injury co dot com CEO stands for Colorado Personal 2279 01:49:51.760 --> 01:49:55.880 Injury COO dot com. So go on there, take a look. 2280 01:49:56.079 --> 01:49:56.960 Let me know what you think. 2281 01:49:57.479 --> 01:50:00.079 The goal in our website is to have a a 2282 01:50:00.319 --> 01:50:03.439 source to go to and get most of your questions answered, 2283 01:50:03.520 --> 01:50:06.159 but more than anything, to let you know that you're 2284 01:50:06.199 --> 01:50:08.199 not alone in what you're going through. When you're having 2285 01:50:08.279 --> 01:50:10.840 challenges with the insurance company. It's not unique to you. 2286 01:50:11.560 --> 01:50:15.800 The entire system is set up too, you know, for 2287 01:50:15.920 --> 01:50:18.640 the insurance companies to be able to dispense with these 2288 01:50:18.720 --> 01:50:21.520 claims as cheaply as possible. We had a gal on 2289 01:50:21.560 --> 01:50:25.600 the radio show yesterday who who you know, had suffered injuries, 2290 01:50:25.680 --> 01:50:28.199 had been to the doctor, but didn't really know that 2291 01:50:28.359 --> 01:50:31.239 she had a case, and nobody at the insurance company 2292 01:50:31.279 --> 01:50:34.159 ever told her. That's the oldest trick in the book, 2293 01:50:34.319 --> 01:50:37.760 is to not tell people that that, you know, there 2294 01:50:37.840 --> 01:50:40.000 may be a cause of action here, there may be 2295 01:50:40.079 --> 01:50:43.800 a claim here, maybe we're we're responsible for those medical bills. 2296 01:50:44.000 --> 01:50:46.479 The insurance company perspective is that if we just don't 2297 01:50:46.520 --> 01:50:50.119 tell them, yeah, nothing, some of those people would just 2298 01:50:50.239 --> 01:50:51.640 go away and they'll never know. 2299 01:50:52.720 --> 01:50:54.880 And so that's a problem. And so you have to 2300 01:50:55.079 --> 01:50:55.920 educate yourself. 2301 01:50:56.760 --> 01:50:59.840 And we hope that our website is a source to 2302 01:51:00.079 --> 01:51:03.279 have a bunch of those questions answered. Other issues that 2303 01:51:03.359 --> 01:51:06.840 come up frequently, are you know, down the road issues 2304 01:51:06.880 --> 01:51:10.800 of you know, does my insurance company actually have to 2305 01:51:10.840 --> 01:51:13.159 get paid back? Why would I pay a health insurance 2306 01:51:13.199 --> 01:51:16.600 company when I've been paying them premiums? All these years 2307 01:51:16.680 --> 01:51:19.239 and stuff that seems crazy to a lot of people, 2308 01:51:20.640 --> 01:51:23.479 but it's true and it's an important thing. And if 2309 01:51:23.520 --> 01:51:27.199 you don't honor the rights of that health insurance company, 2310 01:51:27.520 --> 01:51:30.039 you can find yourself in trouble down the road. Either 2311 01:51:30.079 --> 01:51:33.479 they'll come knocking on your door to actually get repaid 2312 01:51:33.520 --> 01:51:37.159 in the future, or worse shit, perhaps you have a 2313 01:51:37.239 --> 01:51:41.079 condition that's still somewhat related back to the car accident 2314 01:51:41.159 --> 01:51:43.720 a few years down the road, and they won't pay 2315 01:51:43.840 --> 01:51:46.479 for it, and then you've really got a mess. This 2316 01:51:46.640 --> 01:51:49.359 health insurance that you've had for years is saying, no, 2317 01:51:50.199 --> 01:51:52.560 our duty to pay for that went away when you 2318 01:51:52.600 --> 01:51:56.279 failed to honor our contractual obligations back when you had 2319 01:51:56.319 --> 01:51:58.600 that little car wreck and you had no idea that 2320 01:51:58.680 --> 01:52:00.680 a big surgery was going to be on your horizon. 2321 01:52:01.680 --> 01:52:04.319 So, John, if you get injured in an accident, that's 2322 01:52:04.439 --> 01:52:11.079 your fault. Who who does your insurance cover that or not? 2323 01:52:11.600 --> 01:52:14.279 As far as the medical bills. Yeah, So the only 2324 01:52:14.359 --> 01:52:15.720 part of your assurance. 2325 01:52:15.319 --> 01:52:17.880 Yeah, the only part of your insurance that would cover 2326 01:52:18.560 --> 01:52:20.920 an accident that you were at fault for would be 2327 01:52:21.039 --> 01:52:24.279 your medpay provisions or something like that. Those are not 2328 01:52:24.479 --> 01:52:26.640 fault dependent, so they're going to pay out no matter 2329 01:52:26.720 --> 01:52:29.000 if you were at fault or the other guy was 2330 01:52:29.039 --> 01:52:31.279 at fault. That's the really the cool thing, or one 2331 01:52:31.319 --> 01:52:34.680 of the cool things about medpay. Your health insurance only 2332 01:52:34.800 --> 01:52:38.439 has a right to get repaid when there's some third 2333 01:52:38.560 --> 01:52:41.359 party that you're going after that you're going to then 2334 01:52:41.520 --> 01:52:45.479 collect benefits from or collect damages from that are based 2335 01:52:45.520 --> 01:52:48.479 in whole or part on the existence of that medical 2336 01:52:49.439 --> 01:52:52.399 treatment and that injury that was related back to the accident. 2337 01:52:54.600 --> 01:52:56.760 John, you know, one of the questions I have for 2338 01:52:56.920 --> 01:52:59.520 you is regarding what to do right after an accident, 2339 01:52:59.600 --> 01:53:02.800 regard of whose fault it was. If I'm insured and 2340 01:53:02.920 --> 01:53:05.880 I have med Pay, and I go either to the 2341 01:53:06.239 --> 01:53:08.439 er and an ambulance or on my own, the first 2342 01:53:08.479 --> 01:53:10.640 person I see is going to ask me about insurance. 2343 01:53:11.000 --> 01:53:13.800 Should I avoid telling them that I have med Pay, 2344 01:53:13.920 --> 01:53:16.760 And should I avoid giving them any of my insurance 2345 01:53:16.840 --> 01:53:19.720 information until I can get a hold of you later 2346 01:53:19.840 --> 01:53:22.600 on so that you can take over and start renegotiating 2347 01:53:22.600 --> 01:53:23.680 all these medical bills. 2348 01:53:24.760 --> 01:53:24.960 Yeah. 2349 01:53:25.199 --> 01:53:27.319 So I'm never going to tell somebody to deny that 2350 01:53:27.439 --> 01:53:32.600 you have any particular coverage. But my preference in almost 2351 01:53:32.720 --> 01:53:35.760 every circumstance is that if you have private health insurance, 2352 01:53:36.119 --> 01:53:39.079 give that to the hospital. Let that be the starting place, 2353 01:53:39.600 --> 01:53:44.239 and then we'll go from there. Because the medpay to 2354 01:53:44.359 --> 01:53:46.840 a certain degree has a priority based on who comes 2355 01:53:46.920 --> 01:53:49.920 asking for it first. Okay, and you may not know 2356 01:53:50.159 --> 01:53:53.239 that as you're sitting there in the er. It may 2357 01:53:53.319 --> 01:53:55.640 be the ambulance that wants to get paid, and it 2358 01:53:55.760 --> 01:53:57.920 may be the er that wants to get paid. The 2359 01:53:58.039 --> 01:54:00.399 problem is if you don't know that, it could be 2360 01:54:00.479 --> 01:54:03.159 the case that the er has already built and exhausted 2361 01:54:03.239 --> 01:54:06.319 those benefits before you got the bill for the ambulance 2362 01:54:06.720 --> 01:54:09.640 that maybe is not covered by your health insurance. So 2363 01:54:10.159 --> 01:54:12.760 there are very very legitimate reasons why you want to 2364 01:54:12.840 --> 01:54:15.359 kind of keep those cards tight to the chest and 2365 01:54:15.479 --> 01:54:18.920 at least evaluate your position and figure out whose priority 2366 01:54:19.600 --> 01:54:22.520 really is the most important one and needs to be paid. 2367 01:54:23.000 --> 01:54:27.199 There are also issues with respect to repricing of medical care. 2368 01:54:27.319 --> 01:54:29.760 I don't think it's a secret to say there's a 2369 01:54:30.199 --> 01:54:32.880 you know, a moving target on what the price point 2370 01:54:33.000 --> 01:54:34.279 is for various procedures. 2371 01:54:34.359 --> 01:54:37.079 And so as an example, we were. 2372 01:54:37.000 --> 01:54:40.119 Talking earlier about cat scans, MRIs that kind of stuff. 2373 01:54:40.600 --> 01:54:43.600 I mean, you can literally get an MRI in Denver 2374 01:54:43.800 --> 01:54:46.680 for as little as six hundred bucks, or you can 2375 01:54:46.720 --> 01:54:51.000 get almost the exact same you know, MRI and have 2376 01:54:51.199 --> 01:54:53.520 it build out it close to ten thousand dollars for 2377 01:54:53.640 --> 01:54:57.319 the exact same procedure. It's the only thing different is 2378 01:54:57.399 --> 01:55:01.359 who's paying for it. So that's crazy. But in my mind, 2379 01:55:01.560 --> 01:55:04.680 I don't want my clients to pay five or ten 2380 01:55:04.760 --> 01:55:07.439 thousand dollars for something that maybe they could get for 2381 01:55:07.960 --> 01:55:10.199 six hundred or a grand or somewhere in there. So 2382 01:55:10.399 --> 01:55:13.359 part of what we do, you know, I've said for years, 2383 01:55:13.439 --> 01:55:16.840 if given the opportunity, I really think I can put 2384 01:55:17.439 --> 01:55:20.000 you know, an additional thirty percent of money in people's 2385 01:55:20.000 --> 01:55:22.880 pockets just because of how we structure the use of 2386 01:55:22.960 --> 01:55:26.119 our benefits and stuff. That's part of it is making 2387 01:55:26.159 --> 01:55:29.880 sure that we're not paying too much for the identical 2388 01:55:30.000 --> 01:55:33.319 service that we can get. If we just play with 2389 01:55:33.479 --> 01:55:36.119 the order that things get built and who we get 2390 01:55:36.199 --> 01:55:40.600 that service from, we can radically alter the end result 2391 01:55:41.039 --> 01:55:43.520 of how much we owe to these providers and how 2392 01:55:43.600 --> 01:55:45.920 much we owe in reimbursement to our health insurance. 2393 01:55:47.039 --> 01:55:47.279 John. 2394 01:55:47.319 --> 01:55:50.760 The second question deals with my dash cam in the 2395 01:55:50.840 --> 01:55:53.119 event of an accident. Let's say it's a serious one 2396 01:55:53.600 --> 01:55:56.439 and the police respond and a policeman notices that I 2397 01:55:56.560 --> 01:55:58.760 have what's left of a dash camera hanging out of 2398 01:55:58.840 --> 01:56:02.239 my car. They what are the odds that they're going 2399 01:56:02.279 --> 01:56:05.199 to request that memory card? And if so, am I 2400 01:56:05.319 --> 01:56:07.439 required to give it to them? And the reason I 2401 01:56:07.600 --> 01:56:10.439 bring that up is that memory card is going to 2402 01:56:10.520 --> 01:56:15.199 contain critically important evidence in support of my case, and 2403 01:56:15.319 --> 01:56:18.359 I would rather not trust a random cop who's got 2404 01:56:18.399 --> 01:56:20.880 three hundred other things to do with a memory card 2405 01:56:20.960 --> 01:56:25.079 that is smaller than a dime. So what is a 2406 01:56:25.239 --> 01:56:28.840 legitimate way for me to deny giving the police that 2407 01:56:29.600 --> 01:56:31.039 original memory card? 2408 01:56:31.800 --> 01:56:35.960 Yeah, so that's a really complicated question. And to be 2409 01:56:36.079 --> 01:56:40.680 honest with you, I've never had a police officer directly 2410 01:56:40.840 --> 01:56:44.479 ask somebody to give up their memory card. I've never 2411 01:56:44.560 --> 01:56:48.079 seen that happen. So, and what I'm thinking of, just 2412 01:56:48.279 --> 01:56:50.359 off the top of my head is I've had plenty 2413 01:56:50.399 --> 01:56:55.119 of accidents where where they initially write up the at 2414 01:56:55.199 --> 01:56:59.359 fault party for not having proof of insurance. They absolutely 2415 01:56:59.439 --> 01:57:02.000 had insurance and they just didn't present the officer with 2416 01:57:02.119 --> 01:57:03.960 proof because maybe they were busy in the. 2417 01:57:04.000 --> 01:57:05.199 Ambulance or something. 2418 01:57:05.640 --> 01:57:07.960 And the police are not going to go rummaging around 2419 01:57:08.000 --> 01:57:10.640 the car because that's a search, and they don't have 2420 01:57:10.760 --> 01:57:14.199 the probable cause that gives them the ability to go search. 2421 01:57:14.399 --> 01:57:17.640 So I don't think that there's any circumstance. I shouldn't 2422 01:57:17.640 --> 01:57:21.199 say there's no circumstance. In most accidents, there's not going 2423 01:57:21.239 --> 01:57:23.119 to be a circumstance where they could go in your 2424 01:57:23.159 --> 01:57:26.000 dash cam and just physically remove that without getting a 2425 01:57:26.079 --> 01:57:29.159 warrant or you know, having some consent to do that. 2426 01:57:29.479 --> 01:57:33.000 So I've never had a police officer do that. I 2427 01:57:33.239 --> 01:57:36.880 can't really fathom that they would ask for it. If 2428 01:57:37.000 --> 01:57:39.399 you know, I've had people that were not related to 2429 01:57:39.479 --> 01:57:42.920 the accident at all come walking up with a SIM 2430 01:57:43.039 --> 01:57:45.840 card and say, I've got a dash cam. 2431 01:57:45.960 --> 01:57:47.720 I've got it right here on this car. Do you 2432 01:57:47.840 --> 01:57:48.119 want it? 2433 01:57:48.119 --> 01:57:51.760 And they hand over the video. Sometimes that's great, Sometimes 2434 01:57:51.840 --> 01:57:52.800 it's not so great. 2435 01:57:53.119 --> 01:57:54.399 It's like a fifty to fifty odds. 2436 01:57:55.079 --> 01:57:56.800 You just don't know when you put that card. 2437 01:57:57.319 --> 01:58:00.760 It's great for identifying the truth. 2438 01:58:02.279 --> 01:58:04.960 Listen, I think right, I mean, you know, dash cams 2439 01:58:05.000 --> 01:58:08.720 are incredible. I'm a rear facing dash cam on my bicycle. 2440 01:58:08.840 --> 01:58:11.199 That's how much I think it's it's incredible. 2441 01:58:11.359 --> 01:58:11.520 Is that? 2442 01:58:12.079 --> 01:58:14.960 I mean, there's just no substitute. I'll tell you the truth. 2443 01:58:15.239 --> 01:58:18.600 I've gripped about this so many times when I started 2444 01:58:18.640 --> 01:58:22.520 practicing law twenty five years ago, and we would have 2445 01:58:22.640 --> 01:58:27.399 accident cases. I don't recall that we ever really had well, 2446 01:58:27.439 --> 01:58:30.800 I can't say we've never had it, but but true liability, 2447 01:58:30.880 --> 01:58:33.800 he said. She said disputes were almost unheard of because 2448 01:58:33.840 --> 01:58:36.600 the cops would would really investigate and go out of 2449 01:58:36.640 --> 01:58:39.600 their way to do that. Fast forward twenty five years. 2450 01:58:40.399 --> 01:58:43.720 I think there's a number of reasons. I mean, the 2451 01:58:43.840 --> 01:58:46.640 police are shorthanded, they have a lot of stuff on 2452 01:58:46.720 --> 01:58:50.520 their plate. They just don't have the opportunity to really 2453 01:58:50.600 --> 01:58:53.680 get into investigating some of these true, he said, she said, 2454 01:58:54.119 --> 01:58:56.840 And so they don't write anybody a ticket and they 2455 01:58:56.920 --> 01:58:58.800 send them down the road with, you know, with the 2456 01:58:58.840 --> 01:59:01.960 police report that basically says I don't know who was 2457 01:59:02.039 --> 01:59:04.960 at fault. And I'm telling you, even though there may 2458 01:59:05.039 --> 01:59:07.039 have been witnesses and there may be an easy way 2459 01:59:07.079 --> 01:59:08.680 for them to figure it out, if they don't go 2460 01:59:08.800 --> 01:59:11.359 that extra mile and do it, you're looking at a 2461 01:59:11.439 --> 01:59:16.119 case that's going to cause huge problems for those injured 2462 01:59:16.199 --> 01:59:19.479 parties because the insurance companies only have to go by 2463 01:59:19.560 --> 01:59:21.560 what their insurance says, and if the other you know, 2464 01:59:21.680 --> 01:59:23.600 the other party says, oh, it wouldn't my fault, I 2465 01:59:23.640 --> 01:59:26.680 didn't run the red light, they're going to deny liability 2466 01:59:26.760 --> 01:59:28.560 on the case. And the only way you're ever going 2467 01:59:28.640 --> 01:59:30.640 to prevail in that case is to go to litigation 2468 01:59:31.279 --> 01:59:34.199 and proceed to a jury trial and convince a jury 2469 01:59:34.279 --> 01:59:36.359 of that, which I'm telling you is going to be 2470 01:59:36.520 --> 01:59:40.039 very difficult in the absence of you know, cameras or 2471 01:59:40.880 --> 01:59:44.680 witnesses or other evidence that help support that. So back 2472 01:59:44.680 --> 01:59:47.279 to your question about dash cams. Many times that's the 2473 01:59:47.640 --> 01:59:50.880 difference completely between a case that can't. 2474 01:59:50.720 --> 01:59:54.840 Be resolved and a case that absolutely. 2475 01:59:54.520 --> 01:59:57.760 You've made a believe right of me. You know, probably 2476 01:59:57.840 --> 02:00:01.039 six months ago I went out on board to dash at. 2477 02:00:01.079 --> 02:00:03.119 It was one hundred and fifty bucks, but it gives 2478 02:00:03.159 --> 02:00:04.159 you a great peace of mind. 2479 02:00:04.520 --> 02:00:06.760 Yeah, I totally believe in them. We're gonna go to 2480 02:00:06.840 --> 02:00:08.239 a break right now, We'll be right back. 2481 02:00:14.239 --> 02:00:17.479 Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel roofing 2482 02:00:17.600 --> 02:00:20.279 dot com. You don't pay a cent until you're contenth 2483 02:00:23.600 --> 02:00:26.760 time for an insurance checkup free, no obligation. In comparison, 2484 02:00:26.920 --> 02:00:30.479 call Compass insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens 2485 02:00:30.479 --> 02:00:31.479 of insurance companies. 2486 02:00:31.600 --> 02:00:34.159 Find out now three oh three seven seven to one help. 2487 02:00:34.359 --> 02:00:37.000 You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank 2488 02:00:37.039 --> 02:00:39.439 durand the real estate Man dot com to list your 2489 02:00:39.520 --> 02:00:42.640 home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero 2490 02:00:42.760 --> 02:00:43.720 sixteen twenty two. 2491 02:00:47.880 --> 02:00:50.960 All right, three oh three seven one three eight two 2492 02:00:51.159 --> 02:00:54.319 five five. John Fuller of course, joins me, John, I 2493 02:00:54.520 --> 02:00:57.239 just checked out your website. You put some money into that. 2494 02:00:57.439 --> 02:00:58.680 You updated that thing? 2495 02:00:58.920 --> 02:00:59.760 Did I did? 2496 02:01:00.000 --> 02:01:03.600 It looks absolutely great, man, fantastic. 2497 02:01:03.800 --> 02:01:06.079 I love the top. A five minute call could get 2498 02:01:06.159 --> 02:01:08.000 you thirty percent more. It looks like you got a 2499 02:01:08.039 --> 02:01:10.800 new free case review. You got a lot of your 2500 02:01:10.840 --> 02:01:12.640 own reviews on there. I got to leave one for 2501 02:01:12.760 --> 02:01:13.039 you on this. 2502 02:01:13.119 --> 02:01:15.000 How come all the testimonies up from women? 2503 02:01:15.560 --> 02:01:15.760 Yeah? 2504 02:01:16.560 --> 02:01:21.159 Personal checking in people out here, people out there, especially YouTubers, 2505 02:01:21.279 --> 02:01:24.840 check it out. Personal injury ceo dot com. I'd love 2506 02:01:24.880 --> 02:01:26.279 feedback on it too. What do you think? 2507 02:01:26.479 --> 02:01:26.760 I mean? 2508 02:01:26.840 --> 02:01:29.079 You know he's a personal injury attorney, but I think 2509 02:01:29.199 --> 02:01:31.840 it looks absolutely beautiful. 2510 02:01:32.439 --> 02:01:33.840 Did a great job, Thank you. 2511 02:01:33.920 --> 02:01:37.399 Yeah, it's got a lot on motorcycle accidents, bicycle accidents, 2512 02:01:37.479 --> 02:01:41.880 car accidents, types of cases you handle. I'd love feedback. 2513 02:01:41.920 --> 02:01:44.000 It help a troubleshooter dot com. But check it out 2514 02:01:44.319 --> 02:01:49.319 Personal injuryco dot com, Personal injuryco dot com. What do 2515 02:01:49.359 --> 02:01:51.279 you think of the website? Now? Who do we have? 2516 02:01:52.680 --> 02:01:53.760 Who do we have on here? 2517 02:01:53.840 --> 02:01:56.399 Hold on, Charlie, Charlie. Yeah, I was just talking about 2518 02:01:56.479 --> 02:01:57.079 dash cans. 2519 02:01:57.159 --> 02:02:00.800 Hey, Charlie, go ahead, sir, Yeah, just was curious. 2520 02:02:01.239 --> 02:02:04.560 You said you have a a dash cam for for 2521 02:02:04.720 --> 02:02:08.840 your bicycle, but it faces rear I do. What What 2522 02:02:09.880 --> 02:02:13.000 I mean is it's specifically designed for for bicycle. 2523 02:02:13.399 --> 02:02:14.159 Absolutely it is. 2524 02:02:14.199 --> 02:02:18.239 It's made by Garmin, and it actually has radar that's 2525 02:02:18.399 --> 02:02:20.880 rear facing. It lets me know when cars are coming 2526 02:02:20.960 --> 02:02:23.880 up behind me. And it has an active camera that 2527 02:02:24.119 --> 02:02:26.720 is in there. And then the event that something ever happened, 2528 02:02:26.760 --> 02:02:28.720 it would you know, it would be recorded on that 2529 02:02:29.079 --> 02:02:30.319 on that device. 2530 02:02:30.920 --> 02:02:33.199 Okay, And it has an easy way I mean we're 2531 02:02:33.199 --> 02:02:35.560 talking bicycle, bicycles. 2532 02:02:35.119 --> 02:02:36.359 Right, yeah, road bike. 2533 02:02:36.439 --> 02:02:38.840 It looks pretty cheap too, like one hundred and fifty bucks, 2534 02:02:38.960 --> 02:02:41.119 more like three hundred, but it's uh oh, I see 2535 02:02:41.159 --> 02:02:42.279 that's just one part of it. 2536 02:02:43.479 --> 02:02:46.159 Yeah, it's a it's a very cool technology. 2537 02:02:46.279 --> 02:02:46.359 Here. 2538 02:02:46.359 --> 02:02:49.199 It is right here at ri e I Garmin Verrea 2539 02:02:49.600 --> 02:02:52.720 ye rear view radar with camera and tail light back. 2540 02:02:53.399 --> 02:02:53.600 Yep. 2541 02:02:53.800 --> 02:02:55.880 That's pretty cool. And it looks like it just mounts 2542 02:02:55.960 --> 02:02:56.600 right on the bike. 2543 02:02:56.680 --> 02:02:57.800 Yeah, right on the seat stem. 2544 02:02:58.760 --> 02:02:58.920 Yeah. 2545 02:02:59.560 --> 02:03:01.279 Are you a bit time bicyclist. 2546 02:03:01.479 --> 02:03:03.560 Yeah, oh no, I got a grandson that is. 2547 02:03:04.000 --> 02:03:04.119 Hey. 2548 02:03:04.279 --> 02:03:06.720 I think it's money well spent. I like it because 2549 02:03:07.279 --> 02:03:10.279 I can't always hear the cars. I mean, you know, 2550 02:03:11.039 --> 02:03:13.239 you got people like Mark out here in his electric 2551 02:03:13.319 --> 02:03:16.199 car with license plates that are like I go fast, 2552 02:03:16.319 --> 02:03:18.279 get out of my way and stuff like that on there, 2553 02:03:18.439 --> 02:03:21.119 so you don't really hear those guys sneaking up on you. 2554 02:03:21.319 --> 02:03:24.239 So I think that, you know, the little notification that 2555 02:03:24.359 --> 02:03:26.960 it gives me on the on my little bike computer 2556 02:03:27.119 --> 02:03:30.680 that everybody has a bike computer is well worth it. 2557 02:03:30.880 --> 02:03:33.399 So it's it's a cool technology. It's not that much money, 2558 02:03:33.680 --> 02:03:37.439 and if anything ever happens, the cost of you installing 2559 02:03:37.520 --> 02:03:40.039 that to get a video of it is just nothing 2560 02:03:40.159 --> 02:03:41.399 compared to the benefit of it. 2561 02:03:41.479 --> 02:03:41.680 Yeah. 2562 02:03:41.920 --> 02:03:46.520 Yeah, all right man, thanks Charlie yep, Garment, Yeah, all right, thank. 2563 02:03:46.399 --> 02:03:49.199 You, Garman. It's they selled at ari I or of 2564 02:03:49.279 --> 02:03:52.720 course Amazon three O three seven, one, three, eight, two 2565 02:03:52.960 --> 02:03:56.279 five five, John, you went long on that first uh segment. 2566 02:03:56.359 --> 02:03:58.920 I know, I'm just a rookie. I've never you know, 2567 02:03:59.279 --> 02:03:59.920 do the best I can. 2568 02:04:00.359 --> 02:04:04.239 Yeah, Hey, that website personal injury CEO looking at that 2569 02:04:04.439 --> 02:04:07.399 down at the bottom the different kinds of accidents. And 2570 02:04:07.479 --> 02:04:11.119 we just talked about bikes. I mean, a bicycle that 2571 02:04:11.279 --> 02:04:13.680 hits a car, what happens? Because you're not gonna have 2572 02:04:13.720 --> 02:04:16.640 insurance on your bicycle. But if a bike hit you know, 2573 02:04:16.800 --> 02:04:20.239 a brand new Mercedes or something and causes you know, 2574 02:04:20.560 --> 02:04:23.079 five six grand worth of damage to the door, if 2575 02:04:23.159 --> 02:04:25.600 not more, or even one of those scooters, you don't 2576 02:04:25.640 --> 02:04:27.520 have insurance on those scooters downtown. 2577 02:04:27.560 --> 02:04:29.680 Do you know a lot of times that's when people's 2578 02:04:29.720 --> 02:04:31.199 homeowners insurance will kick in. 2579 02:04:31.439 --> 02:04:32.319 That will kick in a. 2580 02:04:32.319 --> 02:04:34.640 Lot of times. Yeah, it's crazy, but it's true. Now, 2581 02:04:34.720 --> 02:04:37.600 not everybody has a home or homeowners insurance, so you 2582 02:04:37.760 --> 02:04:40.319 run into that sometimes. But I've had cases where we 2583 02:04:40.439 --> 02:04:45.239 have actually gone after damage done by a bicyclist where 2584 02:04:45.279 --> 02:04:48.439 we've used a homeowner's policy to cover that, yep, and 2585 02:04:48.560 --> 02:04:50.119 it works out, and it worked out yep. 2586 02:04:50.319 --> 02:04:52.640 Well, you just hope they have some form of insurance 2587 02:04:52.840 --> 02:04:54.960 or you know, at least a houks ya lot want 2588 02:04:54.960 --> 02:04:55.840 people that don't want. 2589 02:04:55.840 --> 02:04:58.720 In particular, a lady was hit by a bicyclist on 2590 02:04:58.880 --> 02:05:01.680 a trail. You just got run over by this guy, 2591 02:05:01.720 --> 02:05:04.119 and we successfully went after the home owners insurance. 2592 02:05:04.159 --> 02:05:05.359 How bad was she injured? 2593 02:05:05.680 --> 02:05:06.199 Pretty bad? 2594 02:05:06.720 --> 02:05:08.680 Like really, Like that's crazy. 2595 02:05:08.720 --> 02:05:11.359 I wouldn't recommend getting hit by a guy flying down 2596 02:05:11.399 --> 02:05:12.880 a bike trail, you know it's. 2597 02:05:13.079 --> 02:05:14.800 I always thought if you got hit by one of 2598 02:05:14.840 --> 02:05:17.199 those scooters. Now, I know they can't throttle up to 2599 02:05:17.520 --> 02:05:21.119 thirty or something, but man, they're pretty heavy, those little. 2600 02:05:21.439 --> 02:05:23.880 Heavy and they're fast, and you know, yeah, you don't 2601 02:05:23.880 --> 02:05:24.520 want to get hit by. 2602 02:05:24.560 --> 02:05:27.600 If you had any cases where someone downtown getting hit 2603 02:05:27.680 --> 02:05:29.479 by one of those scooters, I have not. 2604 02:05:30.279 --> 02:05:30.680 I have not. 2605 02:05:30.840 --> 02:05:33.079 I wonder when you ran them through like Uber or 2606 02:05:33.199 --> 02:05:35.600 Lyft or wherever. I think I think some of them 2607 02:05:35.640 --> 02:05:38.640 are through the Uber app. In fact, I know they 2608 02:05:38.680 --> 02:05:40.840 are because I've done it before. I wonder if there 2609 02:05:40.920 --> 02:05:43.680 is any insurance coverage when you when you rent them. 2610 02:05:43.720 --> 02:05:44.279 I doubt it. 2611 02:05:44.680 --> 02:05:46.840 Yeah, I don't know. I can tell you this. 2612 02:05:47.000 --> 02:05:50.000 I mean I've had a few cases where things have 2613 02:05:50.199 --> 02:05:53.479 happened on those scooters where like they'd hit a little 2614 02:05:53.560 --> 02:05:56.079 bump and the thing just falls apart and they get bad, 2615 02:05:56.199 --> 02:05:59.319 bad injuries. And I can tell you that the releases 2616 02:05:59.439 --> 02:06:02.399 that people sign for those stupid scooters in the app 2617 02:06:02.600 --> 02:06:07.880 so comprehensive and far fetched and far reaching, and there's 2618 02:06:08.000 --> 02:06:11.079 so many layers of foreign ownership on those that there's 2619 02:06:11.159 --> 02:06:14.479 virtually no chance of you recovering for like a product 2620 02:06:14.560 --> 02:06:15.600 liability theory. 2621 02:06:15.399 --> 02:06:17.359 You know, something like that. Give me your thoughts on this. 2622 02:06:17.520 --> 02:06:19.720 So I was in an Uber yesterday. I had to 2623 02:06:19.840 --> 02:06:22.399 drop off my RV to get some roof work done, 2624 02:06:23.000 --> 02:06:25.319 and Suzanne had to be here. So I was like screwed. 2625 02:06:25.359 --> 02:06:26.760 I didn't even know I was going to drop it off, 2626 02:06:26.800 --> 02:06:29.000 but I had to get it right, so I Uber. Oh, 2627 02:06:29.279 --> 02:06:30.880 and I have my dogs with me, so I had 2628 02:06:30.880 --> 02:06:34.640 to get an Uber dog thing. So I had to 2629 02:06:34.680 --> 02:06:37.359 go from basically Commerce City all the way to Franktown 2630 02:06:38.000 --> 02:06:40.039 and it was only like sixty bucks. I mean, I 2631 02:06:40.079 --> 02:06:42.880 couldn't believe how cheap it was. A TAXI probably would 2632 02:06:42.920 --> 02:06:45.720 have been six hundred bucks, But that's not my point. 2633 02:06:45.880 --> 02:06:48.840 My point is this. I'm talking to this Uber driver 2634 02:06:48.920 --> 02:06:51.399 because we're together so long, and he's got a Tesla 2635 02:06:51.520 --> 02:06:55.159 Model three and I'm watching him drive and this truck 2636 02:06:55.239 --> 02:06:58.600 comes over into our lane on two twenty five almost 2637 02:06:58.680 --> 02:07:01.199 hit him, but to Tesla jump and he jumped and 2638 02:07:01.279 --> 02:07:03.840 we were fine. Nothing hit there. And I started thinking, 2639 02:07:03.920 --> 02:07:06.920 if I was an auto drive, the car would have 2640 02:07:07.000 --> 02:07:10.720 actually reacted quicker than him. What happened with his is 2641 02:07:10.800 --> 02:07:12.920 when it got really close, he kind of jerked it 2642 02:07:12.920 --> 02:07:15.159 and moved out of the way. It wasn't his fault. 2643 02:07:15.239 --> 02:07:18.439 It was definitely this huge tractor trailer truck. And I 2644 02:07:18.520 --> 02:07:20.800 mean really, it was pulling a trailer. We could have 2645 02:07:20.840 --> 02:07:23.560 been under that thing. We could have been killed, but 2646 02:07:23.840 --> 02:07:26.560 everything worked out fine. And I thought of my autopilot. 2647 02:07:27.479 --> 02:07:31.399 My autopilot would have reacted way quicker than what the 2648 02:07:31.520 --> 02:07:33.840 human did in this. And I'm not saying he's a 2649 02:07:33.880 --> 02:07:37.720 bad driver. I might have reacted even worse than he did. 2650 02:07:37.800 --> 02:07:40.960 I mean, I don't know. So I asked him, I said, 2651 02:07:41.000 --> 02:07:43.479 do you ever just use a full autopilot on this? 2652 02:07:43.640 --> 02:07:46.039 And he goes, now, it would be too slow. And 2653 02:07:46.159 --> 02:07:48.680 there is some truth to that, like when you're an 2654 02:07:48.680 --> 02:07:51.399 autopilot full self driving, it's not going to go over 2655 02:07:51.479 --> 02:07:55.600 eighty five yet simply won't go over eighty five and good. 2656 02:07:55.760 --> 02:07:59.119 There's some other stuff like there's no California stops. When 2657 02:07:59.159 --> 02:08:01.159 you come to a stop sign. You will come to 2658 02:08:01.239 --> 02:08:03.560 a stop sign. Now you can hit the gas and 2659 02:08:03.720 --> 02:08:05.840 kind of tell it to do it and kind of 2660 02:08:05.880 --> 02:08:08.520 break the rule. But you know, if you're not touching 2661 02:08:08.600 --> 02:08:11.640 the gas or the steering wheel, it's simply gonna come 2662 02:08:12.119 --> 02:08:15.000 to a one hundred percent full stopped to go. But 2663 02:08:15.479 --> 02:08:18.920 I started thinking, these taxis, this guy's gonna have elon musk. 2664 02:08:19.520 --> 02:08:21.560 These are going to be probably the safest things in 2665 02:08:21.600 --> 02:08:23.800 the world in any accident. If that truck did hit them, 2666 02:08:24.399 --> 02:08:26.840 every single thing is on one of like the eight 2667 02:08:27.000 --> 02:08:30.319 cameras on that vehicle, right, I mean think about that, 2668 02:08:30.520 --> 02:08:33.479 you would actually have the video of the truck coming over. 2669 02:08:34.359 --> 02:08:38.720 It's remarkable. That could really change eventually your industry. I mean, 2670 02:08:39.039 --> 02:08:41.680 oh absolutely not in your lifetime, but I see a 2671 02:08:41.800 --> 02:08:47.000 place where car accidents pretty much aren't happening. You take 2672 02:08:47.079 --> 02:08:50.079 out that human element, and with the exception of a 2673 02:08:50.199 --> 02:08:52.800 hacker breaking in and like doing something. 2674 02:08:52.520 --> 02:08:55.279 You're absolutely right. But there's no way we're ever going 2675 02:08:55.319 --> 02:08:57.000 to get to the point where you flip a switch 2676 02:08:57.039 --> 02:08:59.520 and everything is on auto drive all of a sudden 2677 02:08:59.640 --> 02:09:04.079 so Stull got this, you know, Yeah, these grandfathered in Oh, 2678 02:09:04.159 --> 02:09:05.359 of course gas. 2679 02:09:06.079 --> 02:09:07.640 If they can't afford a new one, they're not going 2680 02:09:07.680 --> 02:09:09.920 to get one, And you're not gonna tell people they 2681 02:09:10.000 --> 02:09:10.279 have to. 2682 02:09:10.520 --> 02:09:12.159 That's going to be the case for the next thirty 2683 02:09:12.239 --> 02:09:12.800 or forty. 2684 02:09:12.680 --> 02:09:15.119 Years, easily. But what I said is I can see 2685 02:09:15.199 --> 02:09:17.920 a time I can I'm not saying our lifetime. But 2686 02:09:18.039 --> 02:09:19.279 it's getting kind of strange. 2687 02:09:19.319 --> 02:09:20.399 All right, Everybody hold tight. 2688 02:09:20.399 --> 02:09:21.840 I got to do this, and I promise I'll get 2689 02:09:21.840 --> 02:09:22.479 back to the phones. 2690 02:09:22.760 --> 02:09:26.000 Go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing 2691 02:09:26.119 --> 02:09:26.560 dot com. 2692 02:09:26.760 --> 02:09:28.760 You don't pay a cent until you're content. 2693 02:09:32.119 --> 02:09:35.279 Time for an insurance check up free, no obligation comparison 2694 02:09:35.479 --> 02:09:39.000 call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens 2695 02:09:39.039 --> 02:09:41.760 of insurance companies find out now three oh three seven 2696 02:09:41.880 --> 02:09:44.640 seven to one help. You'll think you're his only customer 2697 02:09:44.720 --> 02:09:46.880 when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot 2698 02:09:47.000 --> 02:09:50.279 com to list your home with Remax Alliance three oh 2699 02:09:50.359 --> 02:09:52.239 three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. 2700 02:09:54.319 --> 02:09:56.199 All right, three oh three seven. 2701 02:09:56.000 --> 02:09:59.920 One three eight two five five. What do you guys think? 2702 02:10:02.039 --> 02:10:06.439 What do you guys think? When it comes to consumer issues. 2703 02:10:07.079 --> 02:10:11.520 The number one problem people face right now. Number one 2704 02:10:11.680 --> 02:10:14.520 just consumer related, money related. Let me put it that way. 2705 02:10:14.960 --> 02:10:16.680 I'll give you an example, but I don't want to 2706 02:10:16.720 --> 02:10:19.079 give you the best example because that's the answer to it. 2707 02:10:19.199 --> 02:10:20.239 I would just say fraud. 2708 02:10:20.359 --> 02:10:23.560 I mean, there's so many opportunities to be scammed out there. 2709 02:10:23.880 --> 02:10:26.840 There's every one in the world on email and just 2710 02:10:27.000 --> 02:10:27.840 everywhere you turn. 2711 02:10:28.119 --> 02:10:29.239 Have you ever been scammed? 2712 02:10:30.119 --> 02:10:33.840 I've certainly had a zillion scam emails come my way. 2713 02:10:34.199 --> 02:10:35.800 Have you ever fallen for one? 2714 02:10:36.640 --> 02:10:40.920 Yeah, I'm sure I have. I don't recall specifically, but yeah, absolutely. 2715 02:10:41.000 --> 02:10:42.640 I had a guy ripped me off big time. 2716 02:10:42.760 --> 02:10:44.960 Well, that's happened so many times I can't even tell you. 2717 02:10:45.439 --> 02:10:47.479 Yeah, let's hear it, Mark, how did you get ripped off? 2718 02:10:47.760 --> 02:10:50.359 I had a general manager over five of my good 2719 02:10:50.479 --> 02:10:53.039 years that opened a store on his own while he 2720 02:10:53.159 --> 02:10:57.000 worked for me, using my credit and my dollars. He 2721 02:10:57.119 --> 02:10:58.720 got me for about a quarter million bucks. 2722 02:10:59.119 --> 02:11:02.239 Wow, and he opened his store without your knowledge. 2723 02:11:02.319 --> 02:11:04.960 I had no idea it's his own store. He bought 2724 02:11:05.079 --> 02:11:10.760 tire equipment, he bought an alignment rackies a ball. My 2725 02:11:10.840 --> 02:11:12.960 head's gonna block just thinking of Gary. 2726 02:11:12.880 --> 02:11:15.199 How did you run a store without running yours? 2727 02:11:15.560 --> 02:11:17.600 He was a GM he was the one running the 2728 02:11:17.680 --> 02:11:19.079 five stores and then run. 2729 02:11:19.199 --> 02:11:21.640 I had enough time to run his own on your dime. 2730 02:11:21.840 --> 02:11:24.159 No, he had not a brother in law son in 2731 02:11:24.279 --> 02:11:26.720 law that was running the one he was opening. 2732 02:11:26.960 --> 02:11:29.680 He barely got it. Here's how I busted him. This 2733 02:11:29.920 --> 02:11:33.039 is the craziest thing. So I get a call from NAPA. 2734 02:11:33.199 --> 02:11:37.159 GPC parts everybody's heart of NAP. It's owned by GPC. 2735 02:11:37.880 --> 02:11:41.079 So I happened to set up years ago before him. 2736 02:11:41.680 --> 02:11:47.239 If something was over five thousand dollars one part, only I. 2737 02:11:48.560 --> 02:11:53.199 Could authorize it. And I get a call. Oh man, 2738 02:11:53.560 --> 02:11:55.960 thinking of Gary drives me insane. But I get a 2739 02:11:56.079 --> 02:11:59.159 call and basically the call goes like this, so and 2740 02:11:59.279 --> 02:12:03.119 so at NAPA we have a five four hundred dollars 2741 02:12:03.199 --> 02:12:05.560 part that needs a PO And I go, what the 2742 02:12:05.640 --> 02:12:08.039 hell part costs that? I mean, I've never heard of this. 2743 02:12:08.560 --> 02:12:09.720 I'm thinking, what could it be? 2744 02:12:10.119 --> 02:12:13.520 Even this is going back aways and they don't sell 2745 02:12:13.600 --> 02:12:18.439 like transmissions or rebuilt engines. Okay, So what he had 2746 02:12:19.039 --> 02:12:22.279 in order to use my credit he bought a not 2747 02:12:22.399 --> 02:12:26.239 a Camaro, a corvette like a seventy something Corvette and 2748 02:12:26.439 --> 02:12:31.319 he ordered through NAPA. He had NAPA order through Jasper Engines, 2749 02:12:31.920 --> 02:12:34.560 so basically it would go through my line of credit. 2750 02:12:35.199 --> 02:12:39.399 A Corvette engine. Okay, so up until then, my whole 2751 02:12:39.439 --> 02:12:42.760 point is, we never would buy engines from NAPA. So, 2752 02:12:42.840 --> 02:12:45.399 I mean, I've never heard of anything over five thousand 2753 02:12:45.439 --> 02:12:48.239 dollars for NAPA ever. So I was like, what the 2754 02:12:48.279 --> 02:12:49.600 hell is and they told me what it was, and 2755 02:12:49.680 --> 02:12:52.520 I was like a Corvette engine and then boom. Within 2756 02:12:52.600 --> 02:12:56.840 about twenty four hours, I put it together. I started 2757 02:12:56.960 --> 02:13:00.880 running audits on everything, including the checking account out and 2758 02:13:01.159 --> 02:13:04.319 I figured out there was a big problem and I 2759 02:13:04.439 --> 02:13:06.680 figured out who it was. So within a week's time, 2760 02:13:06.760 --> 02:13:08.960 what I did was it was in the middle of 2761 02:13:09.000 --> 02:13:11.560 the night. I grabbed the locksmith because he had keys 2762 02:13:11.680 --> 02:13:14.920 every store, and we ran around in the middle of 2763 02:13:14.960 --> 02:13:18.399 the night to every store and changed every single lock. 2764 02:13:18.520 --> 02:13:20.920 I didn't know who else was in cahoots. I didn't 2765 02:13:20.960 --> 02:13:23.439 know if any store manager in coots or anything else. 2766 02:13:23.840 --> 02:13:27.199 We changed the locks. I called the police. I actually, 2767 02:13:27.760 --> 02:13:31.239 luckily listen, I'll tell you how good this guy was. Guys. 2768 02:13:31.920 --> 02:13:35.479 So when I first hired him, within two months, within 2769 02:13:35.600 --> 02:13:38.239 two months of hiring him, I received a call from 2770 02:13:38.279 --> 02:13:40.800 a guy that owned two or three Big O franchises 2771 02:13:40.920 --> 02:13:45.439 in Colorado. He said, this guy is the biggest thief 2772 02:13:45.479 --> 02:13:48.479 you're gonna meet. He is the biggest crook ever. But 2773 02:13:48.800 --> 02:13:52.800 Gary already convinced me that he like slept with this 2774 02:13:52.960 --> 02:13:55.920 guy's wife and his old boss might call and makeup stuff. 2775 02:13:56.279 --> 02:13:59.079 He covered every base and he was the best sales 2776 02:13:59.119 --> 02:14:01.439 guy ever seen. Sat there and watched him when he 2777 02:14:01.600 --> 02:14:04.600 was a store manager in my Castle Rock store. This 2778 02:14:04.720 --> 02:14:05.600 guy could sell. 2779 02:14:05.439 --> 02:14:06.720 Anything to walk through the door. 2780 02:14:06.840 --> 02:14:08.880 He was great. He was good. And I don't mean 2781 02:14:08.960 --> 02:14:11.600 sell stuff that wasn't needed. I'm saying when you give 2782 02:14:11.680 --> 02:14:14.920 someone a laundry list, you need tires, brakes, whatever it is. 2783 02:14:15.279 --> 02:14:18.119 I mean this guy could close every ticket. He was incredible. 2784 02:14:18.479 --> 02:14:22.079 He upped that store by probably fifteen twenty percent in 2785 02:14:22.199 --> 02:14:25.319 a good way, meaning not selling crap, doing it the 2786 02:14:25.439 --> 02:14:27.119 right way, in a very short. 2787 02:14:26.880 --> 02:14:29.399 Amount of time. That's how he became the GM so quick. 2788 02:14:29.880 --> 02:14:32.239 So but anyhow, then I just put it all together. 2789 02:14:32.319 --> 02:14:33.760 But the guy from Big O. 2790 02:14:33.920 --> 02:14:35.920 What the guy from Big O didn't tell me or 2791 02:14:36.000 --> 02:14:38.640 I wasn't listening to because Gary already got into my 2792 02:14:38.720 --> 02:14:41.000 brain about him. Literally, I think he told me he 2793 02:14:41.079 --> 02:14:44.479 slept with the guy's wife or something or something. It 2794 02:14:44.600 --> 02:14:47.640 was something very bizarre like that, but he set it 2795 02:14:47.760 --> 02:14:51.000 up perfectly. Oh my god, just thinking of this guy. 2796 02:14:51.399 --> 02:14:55.720 So what happened this story about Gary's not so I 2797 02:14:55.800 --> 02:14:58.640 got to speed it up real quick. But so, he 2798 02:14:58.880 --> 02:15:03.239 was already in the f federal system for payroll taxes 2799 02:15:03.640 --> 02:15:07.520 and he was on probation for some form of probation, 2800 02:15:07.800 --> 02:15:10.359 some form of probation before he worked for Big O 2801 02:15:11.560 --> 02:15:14.720 over payroll taxes. But of course he had a story 2802 02:15:14.800 --> 02:15:17.479 for me about that as well. But I knew this, 2803 02:15:18.119 --> 02:15:21.920 so I reached out to his federal parole officer and 2804 02:15:22.319 --> 02:15:26.520 I sent her all this information. He was writing checks, 2805 02:15:26.640 --> 02:15:29.520 forging checks with my name on it, everything, So she 2806 02:15:29.680 --> 02:15:33.159 got involved. He ended up doing two and a half 2807 02:15:33.359 --> 02:15:38.439 years in the federal prison system, and I learned this, 2808 02:15:38.600 --> 02:15:42.000 You immediately get twenty percent good behavior unless you blow it. 2809 02:15:42.399 --> 02:15:45.399 So he basically did about two years federal. His wife 2810 02:15:45.479 --> 02:15:48.279 divorced him in the meantime. This guy was so crooked 2811 02:15:48.319 --> 02:15:53.520 though he ran out before whatever he did with the 2812 02:15:53.640 --> 02:15:57.159 tax evasion where the Feds were involved, right before he 2813 02:15:57.439 --> 02:16:00.920 was in court okay, and got probate and everything. He 2814 02:16:01.039 --> 02:16:03.399 was afraid he was going to go to prison for 2815 02:16:03.479 --> 02:16:06.600 a year or two. He ran out and adopted a 2816 02:16:06.760 --> 02:16:10.079 child with his wife. The kid's name was Max. He 2817 02:16:10.319 --> 02:16:14.800 ran out and adopted a child. Okay, was in front 2818 02:16:14.800 --> 02:16:18.279 of the judge. We just adopted the child. Here's the kid. 2819 02:16:18.399 --> 02:16:21.199 They pleaded the case. He didn't get any jail or 2820 02:16:21.279 --> 02:16:23.880 prison time, didn't get any because of this kid. Apparently 2821 02:16:24.439 --> 02:16:26.720 after it went over, I didn't even know this was 2822 02:16:26.800 --> 02:16:32.120 a thing. They brought the kid back. Can you even imagine? 2823 02:16:32.719 --> 02:16:33.879 And it's a true story. 2824 02:16:34.079 --> 02:16:34.840 That's dirty to do. 2825 02:16:34.959 --> 02:16:37.600 Even this is all from and where I learn all 2826 02:16:37.680 --> 02:16:41.120 this isn't from Gary. It's the parole officer who is 2827 02:16:41.239 --> 02:16:45.120 actually a federal attorney. It's not a parole officer. She 2828 02:16:45.360 --> 02:16:48.079 was the federal DA or what are they called, United 2829 02:16:48.120 --> 02:16:51.840 States attorney going after this guy. So I learned all 2830 02:16:51.920 --> 02:16:54.719 about his past. Once he robbed me and he gets 2831 02:16:54.760 --> 02:16:56.799 to two and a half years the next place he 2832 02:16:56.879 --> 02:16:58.879 went and I got to finish his story here Gary. 2833 02:16:59.280 --> 02:17:01.719 So he gets out of prison on googling his name. 2834 02:17:01.799 --> 02:17:03.440 You know, the guy ripped me off big time. 2835 02:17:03.520 --> 02:17:05.600 So I'm always checking up on him because if he 2836 02:17:05.719 --> 02:17:08.360 gets back into the automotive business. I'm going to call 2837 02:17:08.479 --> 02:17:11.159 up and warn somebody just like that poor Sap did 2838 02:17:11.200 --> 02:17:13.399 to me. I'm gonna warn him better though. I'm gonna 2839 02:17:13.399 --> 02:17:16.719 tell him how good the guy is. He goes to Schenectady, 2840 02:17:16.840 --> 02:17:21.440 New York. He talks the mayor of Schenectady, listen to 2841 02:17:21.559 --> 02:17:25.559 this into rehabbing these homes. So he goes in and 2842 02:17:25.680 --> 02:17:28.760 he's gonna gut them. Then he's gonna use his people 2843 02:17:29.120 --> 02:17:32.680 to rebuild them. He'll pay the property taxes, then they'll 2844 02:17:32.719 --> 02:17:35.639 split the profit after their rehabbed. I mean a lot 2845 02:17:35.680 --> 02:17:38.760 of older communities do this. Everybody's heard of it. He 2846 02:17:38.920 --> 02:17:41.799 goes in, he makes all these deals. There's one person 2847 02:17:41.879 --> 02:17:43.959 where the news story came out that goes, this guy 2848 02:17:44.040 --> 02:17:46.879 seems like a front. There was one guy on the 2849 02:17:46.920 --> 02:17:49.799 commission there that just was like, this guy doesn't smell 2850 02:17:49.879 --> 02:17:51.959 good and we don't want to deal with them. But 2851 02:17:52.000 --> 02:17:55.079 everybody else out voted him. The mayor stamped it. He 2852 02:17:55.239 --> 02:17:58.639 goes in and his idea of rehabbing is he him 2853 02:17:58.680 --> 02:18:03.159 and his crew crew stripped all the copper, stripped anything 2854 02:18:03.239 --> 02:18:05.840 of value out of the houses, and split town. And 2855 02:18:06.399 --> 02:18:08.879 here's how I found it. I was googling this guy, 2856 02:18:09.840 --> 02:18:13.479 Gary Pappis. I'm literally googling him one day and I 2857 02:18:13.559 --> 02:18:16.520 see an article on him Schenectady and this one guy 2858 02:18:16.639 --> 02:18:20.200 that smelled them knew the guy was bad. Was the 2859 02:18:20.280 --> 02:18:22.479 guy in the article in the paper? So I read 2860 02:18:22.520 --> 02:18:25.319 the article and sure enough, it was definitely the same guy. 2861 02:18:25.879 --> 02:18:28.159 I mean, this guy was just a con and a 2862 02:18:28.239 --> 02:18:30.239 creep from the beginning. I gotta take a break.