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Speaker 1: ultimate episode of House of Dragons season two, episode seven.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So episode seven, how's the Dragon? Not spoilers?
Speaker 3: What did you think Kirkland?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I wasn't here last week as well
Speaker 2: for that for last week's episode, but you.
Speaker 3: Know, last week I thought it was a bit of
Speaker 3: a snoozer.
Speaker 2: I didn't think a lot was going on in that
Speaker 2: episode other than some much anticipated maybe liplocking, but other
Speaker 2: than that, yeah, no, I thought like what was in
Speaker 2: it was good, but it just there wasn't much that
Speaker 2: was in it. So yeah, I'm glad. I like, I
Speaker 2: didn't watch that episode until just just yesterday actually, so
Speaker 2: it was pretty fresh in the mind, so I didn't
Speaker 2: really have to wait for this week's episode. But no,
Speaker 2: coming into this week's episode seven, I thought there was
Speaker 2: a major step up. It definitely had. It's interesting that,
Speaker 2: like the finale is already next week, because I feel
Speaker 2: like there is a lot going on at the end
Speaker 2: of this episode, and I'm very much excited for next week,
Speaker 2: but it just seems like there wasn't I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm hesitant to say like there's not much going on
Speaker 2: until there is, but the season kind of has me
Speaker 2: feeling that, And I'm just curious looking back on the season,
Speaker 2: especially compared to what season one was, just how I
Speaker 2: feel of it overall, because there is some great content
Speaker 2: in here, there's some good drama, but I still feel
Speaker 2: like there is a lot of time spending areas that
Speaker 2: maybe I would have maybe wish we focused in other areas.
Speaker 2: I don't know, so I don't know, and maybe I
Speaker 2: won't really feel that if the finale is like a
Speaker 2: barn burner literally so and just totally blows my mind
Speaker 2: and I don't know, surpassed my expectations. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I am positive overall, but I feel like
Speaker 2: any time that we're getting near the end of the
Speaker 2: season and just realizing like how much runtime we have left,
Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, now I realized that we might not
Speaker 2: have a lot of time to spend in avenues that
Speaker 2: maybe I wish we did, But no, I still think
Speaker 2: this episode was really really solid. Yeah, things are things
Speaker 2: are looking interesting on the battlefield now, So yeah, I
Speaker 2: think this is a really solid thumbs up episode if
Speaker 2: I have to do a quick rating, quick little thumb
Speaker 2: rating here, but uh yeah, I don't know. Maybe I'll
Speaker 2: just leave it at that because there is a lot
Speaker 2: to kind of unpack and talk spoiler rise. But yeah, man,
Speaker 2: I'm excited for next next finale.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this episode, I feel like, Okay, some parts were
Speaker 1: quickly uh accelerated. We got a lot of ground covered.
Speaker 1: And I say that literally because to go from Dragonstone
Speaker 1: to other parts of Westros, it takes a long time,
Speaker 1: and in this episode, I feel like, okay, people went
Speaker 1: to and from very very quickly. I feel like it'd
Speaker 1: be like a day's worth of sailing or two days
Speaker 1: worth of sailing, but no, they were expediting things at
Speaker 1: an accelerated rate. And I'm okay with that because the
Speaker 1: certain the one main theme that we got.
Speaker 3: In this episode.
Speaker 1: I was really lapping my head off on Man, this
Speaker 1: is fuck it, this is fucked up. It was cool,
Speaker 1: it was a cool idea at first, and man, this
Speaker 1: is just fucked up and feel bad, but it is
Speaker 1: the way that it is and it ends up paying
Speaker 1: off in the long run. So I can't wait to
Speaker 1: see how that's going to affect the finale and the
Speaker 1: way this episode ended too, I was thinking, holy shit,
Speaker 1: like this is this is crazy, and I think all
Speaker 1: the cards are now lined up in this episode and
Speaker 1: where we've seen a lot of development on one side
Speaker 1: of the story and for one, I guess the one
Speaker 1: group of individuals.
Speaker 3: The other group of individuals got a.
Speaker 1: Lot of headway in this episode to further their cause,
Speaker 1: and so I'm really excited to see how things are
Speaker 1: gonna unfold for them. But yeah, there's not much I
Speaker 1: can really go into that is not spoilers, because there's
Speaker 1: just so much crazy shit that unfolds here and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be fun to see it unfold in that finale.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of there's anything else even when
Speaker 1: it starts off too, it just it's it's a great episode.
Speaker 1: It feels very powerful, and yeah, it just feels like
Speaker 1: the one side is just being reaffirmed in this episode.
Speaker 1: There's one more plot that was left open ended here. Well,
Speaker 1: they did pursue it a little bit more, it was
Speaker 1: left open and I feel like that's how they're going
Speaker 1: to start the finale next week, focusing on this one
Speaker 1: character's decision.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I hope that next week.
Speaker 1: Is a nice long episode, not a twenty minute thirty minute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Star Wars, I feel like there's many pieces
Speaker 2: that are they're not really missing, but it's like they
Speaker 2: went off and we haven't seen them since they went off,
Speaker 2: and there's like a lot of those pieces. So there's
Speaker 2: gonna be a lot to kind of a lot of
Speaker 2: interactions maybe next week, unless it's just they don't touch
Speaker 2: upon it until next season, which I think is a falter.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, all.
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Speaker 1: back Kragan, Where would you like to start in the
Speaker 1: spoiler territory of episode seven?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Where to start? Where else to start other than at
Speaker 2: the beginning of this episode? Because last week it had
Speaker 2: like a pretty decent cliffhanger of Rania climbing Cyrax and
Speaker 2: uh just flapping, flapping their wings off into another realm.
Speaker 2: And uh, that's how we start this episode, She stares down.
Speaker 2: What's his name, Adam Adam of Hull. I believe I
Speaker 2: was the one that claimed, uh, oh my gosh, smoke
Speaker 2: Sea smoke, thank you. There's a lot of a lot
Speaker 2: of dragons in this episode, with a lot of different names.
Speaker 2: But uh, yeah, it's it's interesting how this character that
Speaker 2: I feel like it's interesting because I feel like, up
Speaker 2: until I don't know, maybe an episode or two ago,
Speaker 2: probably the episode that Raymies fell with Meylee's, I was
Speaker 2: curious what was going to happen with this Allen character
Speaker 2: because they kept just i don't know, like alluding to him,
Speaker 2: eluding some like tension amongst Rainyes and the Cordless I
Speaker 2: think that's his name, the Sea Serpent, like that character,
Speaker 2: just just the tension around that character. And I feel
Speaker 2: like Adam of Hull has like he's been like if
Speaker 2: Alan is like a side character, Adam of Hull has
Speaker 2: been like a like a quarter character, Like he's just
Speaker 2: been interacting with like Alan, And now here we are
Speaker 2: and he's he's on a dragon now. I like, I
Speaker 2: don't think it's a bad thing. It's just a thing
Speaker 2: that I did not expect to happen at all. So
Speaker 2: to have him all of a sudden like get a
Speaker 2: dragon choosing him, but then like minutes later also just
Speaker 2: like just bending the knee to Reneer. I don't know,
Speaker 2: like I am a Team Black all the way for
Speaker 2: this show, but I was still just like, oh wow,
Speaker 2: this is just this is just happening really easily and
Speaker 2: really quickly. And I mean, by the end of the
Speaker 2: episode we get like multiple new Dragon writers, which is
Speaker 2: I don't know, It's like it's interesting because like by
Speaker 2: the end of this episode, I think that shot is
Speaker 2: so epic of Vaguar and Aiman, like seeing Ranier with
Speaker 2: like her all all the dragons now staring off like,
Speaker 2: I feel like it's a very powerful imagery, and even
Speaker 2: the shot at the beginning of this episode it was
Speaker 2: really beautiful. But it just seemed like it happened really fast,
Speaker 2: even though this hat like we're in the penultimate episode here,
Speaker 2: but it just felt like for us to actually get
Speaker 2: this to happen, it seemed really quick. I don't know, like,
Speaker 2: am I alone in that sense? How do you feel
Speaker 2: about that?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I feel like they jumped to it very quickly. We
Speaker 1: only got probably less than I dare say two No,
Speaker 1: probably i'd say three minutes of screen time. It felt
Speaker 1: pretty quick because it started off with him basically he's landed,
Speaker 1: He's on this beach with Queen Raniera, and he just
Speaker 1: basically says straight up that he didn't choose for this,
Speaker 1: like see smoke literally just fucking tackled him to the ground,
Speaker 1: chased from the woods and was like, you're mine, bitch.
Speaker 3: You're not going anywhere, So, I mean, how can you
Speaker 3: argue with that?
Speaker 1: But he pledges allegiance to Rania. Rania is like kind
Speaker 1: of sus like, well, you know, you were quick to
Speaker 1: bend a knee, But it makes sense, like he his
Speaker 1: the ship yard and the ship master he works for.
Speaker 1: They're all pledged house from Valerian. Valerian has pledged their
Speaker 1: fealty to Queen Rania, so it makes sense for him
Speaker 1: to just be like, yeah, I'm gonna join with up
Speaker 1: with you. But uh, I just I think that he's
Speaker 1: a character that didn't get a lot of spotlight. It
Speaker 1: seemed to like his brother got more of the spotlight.
Speaker 1: And I didn't even feel like they were going to
Speaker 1: do anything with with Alan of Hall Hall half.
Speaker 2: Hull of whole. I'm assuming it's like their bastard name
Speaker 2: how they have like John snow.
Speaker 3: Oh Hall like a boat hull. That's clever, Adam of Hawth.
Speaker 1: Fuck, I love that. That's that's something great, good shit.
Speaker 1: I wonder what ours would be. Tailor of Maple. I'm
Speaker 1: not a bastard though, like South Canada, yeah, South Canada.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just think that the character he didn't get a
Speaker 1: lot of focus on this.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: When he did, he was with val Corlis the Sea Snake. Right,
Speaker 1: He's like, I relinquish my duties to you Saiah, and
Speaker 1: he's like agreed.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's it's funny because like, like I am interested
Speaker 2: in seeing kind of how his journey progresses, but it
Speaker 2: just seems like that's gonna be kind of a next
Speaker 2: season thing because we don't really have time to like
Speaker 2: train him how to drag and ride and then also
Speaker 2: have the big clash that I would assume is to
Speaker 2: come in next week's episode. So yeah, I'm I think
Speaker 2: I'm just a little bit because of all these new pieces,
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit worried on how this will all
Speaker 2: be palatable in just one episode. But I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'll wait to hold my judgments until that review.
Speaker 1: Not to mention, I mean, you said it perfectly, like
Speaker 1: they got to train this guy within one episode. Well,
Speaker 1: all their dragon trainers just opted out. They went on strikes.
Speaker 1: Who's gonna train I mean, she's got her hands full already.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just just hold on tight and just just say
Speaker 2: dr karas. That's all.
Speaker 1: That's all they're training, that's all the train Like, they
Speaker 1: clearly need a lot of help because, uh, the one guy,
Speaker 1: like fuck, he got his dragon and he just went
Speaker 1: right to kicking storm kings ending, which clearly wasn't his decision.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a band of misfits, although they are
Speaker 2: on some powerful dragons. I'm I'm just curious as to
Speaker 2: what's to come in that regard, but what else where
Speaker 2: else do you want to go after that? So like
Speaker 2: I guess we can go like King's landing the whole
Speaker 2: dynamic with Amin Aggon Lord Laris club Foot. I love
Speaker 2: that that's his nickname. It's interesting how it seemed like
Speaker 2: in the beginning he was like super loyal with Damon,
Speaker 2: and then I guess in some ways he like he
Speaker 2: was kind of sliding into Amin's ear for his little
Speaker 2: what's his role even just like the master of secrets.
Speaker 3: Or something, masterlines whispers.
Speaker 2: And now now I do like the whole dynamic of
Speaker 2: him and Aimen, especially now that Amen is like forever
Speaker 2: changed and completely or sorry Aggon, my gosh, the amount
Speaker 2: of content I miss up their names. But now that
Speaker 2: Agon is like deformed like him, they kind of bond
Speaker 2: in that sense. And I did like that moment where
Speaker 2: like they do, I don't know, like he gets like
Speaker 2: emotional just talking about how like the way that he's treated.
Speaker 2: I think that was actually last week now that I'm
Speaker 2: thinking about it, I did just watch that episode last night,
Speaker 2: so they are kind of blending together. But anyways, that
Speaker 2: this dynamic that he's trying to like train Aimen to
Speaker 2: like use this weakness as a strength and have like
Speaker 2: people kind of oh my god, Eggon, I said it again, Yeah,
Speaker 2: just like be able to use this weakness as an
Speaker 2: advantage to like it's almost like a disguise where people
Speaker 2: will be thinking less of you because of this. I
Speaker 2: like that that's kind of going on, especially maybe now
Speaker 2: that he's interacted with Aimand more now and realizes that,
Speaker 2: like he cannot control this guy at all, especially after
Speaker 2: he just like shits all over him, tries to bate
Speaker 2: him into thinking that he's going to be the hand
Speaker 2: of the king. It's like, no, you're gonna go get
Speaker 2: the hand of the king. So he's clearly not a
Speaker 2: big fan of aim And and I definitely think he's
Speaker 2: looking at Eggon, you know, like like he did say
Speaker 2: all those kind of nice things. But also it just
Speaker 2: seems like he will be like a puppet for him,
Speaker 2: and he'll be able to just really manipulate egg On
Speaker 2: if he does get his strength back. So I'm very
Speaker 2: interested in kind of seeing how that dynamic goes moving forward.
Speaker 3: Well, you two, you two you do too as well.
Speaker 3: The funk I'm trying to say, have.
Speaker 1: Presented with that information, like, oh, you know, my sister's
Speaker 1: brother's bartender's housewife, home wrecker, bartender's hairdresser told me that
Speaker 1: see smoke as a rider. And he basically was trying
Speaker 1: to get Lari's to tell that to Aimon, and he
Speaker 1: just kind of disregards that that's sneak because he's reaffirmed
Speaker 1: his loyalty to Eggon. He doesn't want to tell aimin this.
Speaker 1: And it was such an intense scene because after that
Speaker 1: other lord leaves, he just like pans to the courtyard
Speaker 1: and Amon's just standing there staring at Laris at the
Speaker 1: stead of the courtyard and Laris just sowders.
Speaker 3: Off of this little cane.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Those those poor guards are going to the wall. They
Speaker 2: just try to protect their queen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they did obviously instigate some stuff, but
Speaker 1: I mean that's what you do.
Speaker 3: You can protect the queen. But fuck losing their capes
Speaker 3: and stuff. That does suck.
Speaker 2: It does suck.
Speaker 3: With Eggon kind of just doing what he does.
Speaker 1: He's in his room, he's got the grand Master helping
Speaker 1: him walk again. It seems like his allies is growing thin,
Speaker 1: but he's definitely not down and out and I'm excited
Speaker 1: to see him get his come up, and I don't
Speaker 1: think we're going to see Amon die in battle. I
Speaker 1: think we're going to see Agon do something to get
Speaker 1: him killed, and that's going to I mean, when when
Speaker 1: Amon goes, Amon is the big threat. So if Amon
Speaker 1: gets taken out, he'll have a big battle with Vagar,
Speaker 1: I'm sure. But he'll get taken out. Agon will be
Speaker 1: left setting and Agon's not going to survive. He's gonna
Speaker 1: get killed by Ranier or something like that. I'm sure.
Speaker 1: I don't think the Greens are coming out on top
Speaker 1: right now. They're already out numbered and not doing very
Speaker 1: well because I mean, Allison has just gone off to
Speaker 1: go to like some spa retreat in the woods with
Speaker 1: one guard, so she's given up on King's landing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of funny. He's just fucking off going
Speaker 2: going vacationing. It's interesting because I can't remember if it
Speaker 2: was confirmed or if we were just speculating. The Room
Speaker 2: on the Street was the idea for the show is
Speaker 2: to go somewhat of like a four season run. Part
Speaker 2: of me like, although it is kind of all aligning
Speaker 2: for a House Black right now with their additional dragons
Speaker 2: and Damon getting somewhat of an army where he is
Speaker 2: in Harron Hall. It still feels like for me, it's
Speaker 2: hard to trust what's going on because especially just following
Speaker 2: like the Game of Thrones formula, like it never goes
Speaker 2: as like easily as it maybe is sought out to be,
Speaker 2: Like we're rooting for Robert Stark and then the Red
Speaker 2: Wedding happens like stuff like that. Like I'm just expecting
Speaker 2: something like that happening, especially that we haven't seen auto
Speaker 2: High Tower in a while. I imagine he's not just
Speaker 2: fucking chilling in the woods like like Alison is. Like
Speaker 2: even though he got sent away from kings Landing, I
Speaker 2: still feel like he is trying to further at least
Speaker 2: the High Tower like power and like presence of there.
Speaker 2: So I am expecting him to kind of have his
Speaker 2: own you know, look to the east on the seventh
Speaker 2: Day Gandalf moment where he's just gonna come in with
Speaker 2: a big flank of something I don't know, Like there's
Speaker 2: just something in the in the realms that's that's telling
Speaker 2: me to be worried for for our House Black team,
Speaker 2: and it not to be just like a triumphant victory
Speaker 2: next week, especially if, especially like if we're going however
Speaker 2: many seasons, Even if even if it is going that
Speaker 2: many seasons, I still don't think like this will end
Speaker 2: with the war being or sorry, like this season ending
Speaker 2: where like Rinnier is in kings Landing, it's all going
Speaker 2: well in that sense, I still feel like there's a
Speaker 2: lot left on the journey to really get to that point.
Speaker 2: So you know, next week might end in a really
Speaker 2: good victory, but I still think that there will be
Speaker 2: some losses for both sides. I mean, we got to
Speaker 2: Kristen Cole. Shay's convinced that he's not making it out
Speaker 2: of this season. She thinks that he's he's getting murked.
Speaker 3: She wasn't in this episode.
Speaker 2: Was no, he wasn't, So the same thing, like, I
Speaker 2: feel like there is a lot of That's what I
Speaker 2: was saying the non spoilers, like a lot of members
Speaker 2: out there that just get sent off on their way,
Speaker 2: and we haven't really touched base because we have GWayne.
Speaker 2: I think that's Allison's brother's name, who fucked off with
Speaker 2: Sir Kristen Auto High Tower. Alice Strong, I think that's
Speaker 2: her name, Like the Witch where Damon is in heron hall,
Speaker 2: she wasn't in this episode, I don't think. So there
Speaker 2: is like a lot of pieces that I feel like
Speaker 2: are just kind of mia that I will be making
Speaker 2: appearance next week, I would imagine.
Speaker 3: So I don't know, I.
Speaker 2: Feel like they're this by the end of next season
Speaker 2: or next episode, I feel like I'll be wanting more
Speaker 2: and me like, obviously it's a positive sense you should
Speaker 2: be leaving the season wanting more of the show, But
Speaker 2: I'm worried that I'll be wanting more of like content
Speaker 2: for the season, And it felt like maybe we could
Speaker 2: have gotten it here if we just focused our attention elsewhere.
Speaker 2: But again, like I was saying the non spoiler, like
Speaker 2: I should hold on to my you know, my criticism,
Speaker 2: still actually see that episode and can determine if that
Speaker 2: is maybe my feeling after the fact.
Speaker 1: But right, yeah, I totally didn't connect the dots that
Speaker 1: these characters are actually not in this episode. Again, like
Speaker 1: I said, those are all House Green allies, and so
Speaker 1: you can see how things are really round for them.
Speaker 1: The fact that they weren't present here just reaffirms the
Speaker 1: fact that, Okay, we had a heavy focus on House
Speaker 1: Black and the Targarians are definitely in a position right
Speaker 1: now this episode where things are really in their favor,
Speaker 1: Like they've gotten multiple new Dragon Riders, and we've gotten Damon.
Speaker 1: As you said, he's obviously still Heron Hall, and that's
Speaker 1: been a long trick. I feel like he's just been
Speaker 1: benched for most of the season, just going through like
Speaker 1: fucking drugs and shit and weird illusions. But he has
Speaker 1: just secured the river Folk and secured his army, and
Speaker 1: it's nice because that army they Heron Hall is getting rebuilt.
Speaker 1: And while Damon's playing like, oh I'm king, I'm king,
Speaker 1: they have definitely reaffirmed their allegiance to Raniera and that
Speaker 1: he is still attached to that as King Prince Consort
Speaker 1: I guess or no, he wouldn't be presid King Consort
Speaker 1: is what his title is. So I'm glad to see that.
Speaker 1: And Damon's gonna come back looking like a hero, and
Speaker 1: after his his dream sequences in this episode, I feel
Speaker 1: like he's really going to maybe renounce his his kind
Speaker 1: of focus on just wanting to be the sole king
Speaker 1: of the Seven kingdoms. I think that's gonna come and
Speaker 1: I would like that turn for him. I'd like him
Speaker 1: to kind of fully just commit to Reneera, especially because
Speaker 1: we got another sequence with where's our where's our boy,
Speaker 1: with our good old Visias popping up in this episode
Speaker 1: looking more like that too. Yeah, he was looking more
Speaker 1: like that. Always a joy to see our boy of Visaras,
Speaker 1: And it seems like these sequences with him showing that
Speaker 1: I felt like he was acknowledging like his love for
Speaker 1: his brother in this episode and really feeling the weight
Speaker 1: of his brother's it definitely sets up for that I'm
Speaker 1: hoping redemption moment where he just is gonna reaffirm his
Speaker 1: love for Raniera by yeah, loving his brother Visaras.
Speaker 2: Yeah the uh, I guess on that note too. With
Speaker 2: the whole dame and stuff this this week, and I
Speaker 2: don't know, like it's interesting because like the more that
Speaker 2: we get these trippy minds bendy moments, I feel like
Speaker 2: I like them less. However, this week's episode, I really
Speaker 2: did like the though back and forth between him and
Speaker 2: King Vassaries, especially Visaris looking all the crepit and uh
Speaker 2: just yeah looking like the grave digger or whatever the
Speaker 2: hell whatever it looks like, Yeah, the crip keeper there.
Speaker 2: But I I feel like I like this one, particularly
Speaker 2: because of the timing of when it happens. How you
Speaker 2: have I'm gonna forget his name, but the new lord
Speaker 2: of the River lends because his grandsire died. This little
Speaker 2: kid that comes in and and he's he's like the
Speaker 2: leader now of House Tully and all these Riverland clans
Speaker 2: are loyal to him. Uh what do you check?
Speaker 1: I'm just laughing because he probably in this episode he's like, Damon,
Speaker 1: you're my bitch, Like.
Speaker 2: Like, I really love that sequence. Actually, when all of
Speaker 2: the like the river folk are are there some in
Speaker 2: there by House Tully on you know, King Consort, Damon's behalf,
Speaker 2: and even just the area that they're in it very
Speaker 2: much reminded me of like the Council of l Rond
Speaker 2: of just like like the like the leaves and everything,
Speaker 2: the fact that they're all in a circle. It just
Speaker 2: very much felt like Rivendell. Maybe not as nice, but
Speaker 2: it still looks pretty nice. But uh no, I really
Speaker 2: like this moment. I feel like it showed great, great
Speaker 2: depth to this young lad. I should really have his name,
Speaker 2: but the new House Tully leader, because I just assume that,
Speaker 2: like Damon was just gonna have a field day with
Speaker 2: him and just be able to really like intimidate him
Speaker 2: into doing everything that he said. But he shows that
Speaker 2: he's a lot smarter than maybe he looks, and like
Speaker 2: he does know a lot about like house, honor and
Speaker 2: loyalty and all these things and these great qualities that
Speaker 2: he is showcasing, you know, like if I was a
Speaker 2: river folks, like, Okay, I actually trust this young lad
Speaker 2: to kind of de lead us here. But I love
Speaker 2: this moment. How you have I believe it's the black
Speaker 2: It's Bracken or Blackwoods. I think this guy was the Blackwoods,
Speaker 2: the one that Damon kind of just told him to, like,
Speaker 2: you know, take them out and do I forget the line,
Speaker 2: but he basically just tells him to do some bad stuff,
Speaker 2: and then of course he does that bad stuff. And
Speaker 2: it's interesting because it is just between those two characters
Speaker 2: and like right away but he thinks that Damon's gonna,
Speaker 2: you know, get him out of it, but like instantly,
Speaker 2: Damon just takes out his sword, goes in and chops
Speaker 2: the head off. And I love that, Like it's another
Speaker 2: one of those really intense moments, kind of like the
Speaker 2: decapitating of that is in the beginning of the season
Speaker 2: where like this is a direct result of Damon's action
Speaker 2: or maybe like although he doesn't directly kill these people,
Speaker 2: I mean this guy he directly killed, but like also
Speaker 2: just all of the other one all the other innocent
Speaker 2: people that were like impacted by Damon's decision because of
Speaker 2: these Blackwood characters going in and rape and pillage, like
Speaker 2: the talents of what they were doing, right, And that's
Speaker 2: why the other river folk were up in arms about it,
Speaker 2: like they don't want to follow a tyrant like I do.
Speaker 2: Like that this is another moment that Damon is feeling
Speaker 2: like consequence for his actions, and it's actually like getting
Speaker 2: to him now. Like that's kind of what triggered the
Speaker 2: the back and forth with Visaris and visaries is, Man,
Speaker 2: I love Patty so much. I'm so glad this guy
Speaker 2: is like living on beyond season one are King visaries here.
Speaker 2: He's just so good And this moment in particular, I
Speaker 2: just love when he's sitting on the on the bed
Speaker 2: with his face just decrepit and holding that crown and
Speaker 2: just like do you want you still want this? Do
Speaker 2: you still like do you still want to have this?
Speaker 2: Especially like Damon's making these decisions now that are already
Speaker 2: fucking at people's lives, Like imagine if he actually was
Speaker 2: on the iron throne and was making like more grand
Speaker 2: scale decisions. Like it's just I feel like now he's
Speaker 2: realizing that there's it's so much more than maybe what
Speaker 2: he kind of fantasized it to be. So I think
Speaker 2: that stuff was like ten to ten for me with
Speaker 2: the flashbacks on Damon this at least this week. So
Speaker 2: it was definitely a nice showcasing of that. And I
Speaker 2: don't know, it's funny because they're like this definitely isn't
Speaker 2: the first time that like Damon's done something like this
Speaker 2: where it's getting to him now. But so it's like,
Speaker 2: how many more of these moments is it gonna take
Speaker 2: for him to really turn a new leaf? And I'm
Speaker 2: curious if he just won't ever if it just keeps compounding.
Speaker 2: I feel like there's signs that he is maybe gonna
Speaker 2: potentially learn from it. He hasn't learned from it yet,
Speaker 2: but it's just it's it's being shown more that it's
Speaker 2: it's getting to him. So I liked all that.
Speaker 3: I do like that as well. And yeah, he's just.
Speaker 1: He's he is feeling the weight of these of these actions,
Speaker 1: especially with him and did decapitate this guy, and the
Speaker 1: guy is just trying to call him out like, oh no,
Speaker 1: like I.
Speaker 3: Did what you asked, Like what's going on?
Speaker 2: Which he was. He's like, I was loyal, and he was.
Speaker 2: He did exactly what Damon asked.
Speaker 3: It was exactly what Damon asked.
Speaker 1: But Damon wanted the full army, right, not just the
Speaker 1: small little group of Blackwoods.
Speaker 3: So that's inequities. Yeah, that's exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So if you just need to see the fallout
Speaker 1: of just what's gonna happen here again, I think Damon
Speaker 1: hopefully does get kind of redeemed and just saying, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want the crown, but here you go over
Speaker 1: near he here's our army.
Speaker 3: Let's go take King's landing.
Speaker 1: He does have the army now because of this decision,
Speaker 1: so we'll see what the fallout of that is and where.
Speaker 3: His allegiances will ultimately lie.
Speaker 1: I did like this Tully boy just going to town
Speaker 1: and just not forgetting how he was cast to the
Speaker 1: side by excuse me, by Damon. And then a few
Speaker 1: episodes ago when Damon's like, oh, you're useless to me.
Speaker 1: I need to speak with your grands But then the
Speaker 1: grandsire died and so here we are. He's just got
Speaker 1: this confidence about him, and I love when Damon's like,
Speaker 1: watch your tongue, boy, And I mean, we've seen Damon
Speaker 1: function sit up and like the King's royal hall right
Speaker 1: in front of the iron throne, so you never know
Speaker 1: what he's going to do to a kid.
Speaker 3: Didn't. Nothing happens, So that's okay.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just pretty it's pretty crazy to see
Speaker 1: where we're at with these river lords and after all
Speaker 1: the fallout and the chaos and the barbar see that's occurred,
Speaker 1: they're still pledging their their old ways and their fealty
Speaker 1: to Runia.
Speaker 3: What else is there?
Speaker 1: I feel like that's pretty much everything from this first
Speaker 1: bit because they didn't focus on Damon.
Speaker 3: Or the river lords at all. Later on that was
Speaker 3: pretty much wrapped up.
Speaker 1: Now that we've kind of got our answer with them
Speaker 1: and what they're doing, and hear and hall's looking much better.
Speaker 1: It's it's come along quite quite a bit. So we
Speaker 1: jumped to unless you had something else you want to
Speaker 1: interject with, Nope, Yeah, we jumped to Queen Rania's plan,
Speaker 1: and this is what causes all the dragon Masters to
Speaker 1: go on strike after Alan of Hull appears. Then she
Speaker 1: gets the idea from uh miss miss Sandre, I think
Speaker 1: your name was that, Lady Massaria, that we need to
Speaker 1: recruit bastards into our army. And so so far we've
Speaker 1: seen two Targarian bastards that the story has focused on.
Speaker 1: And I thought that it was just going to be them.
Speaker 1: I didn't think there was a lot of them. Man,
Speaker 1: they had an army of like ten thousand. When it's
Speaker 1: panned out and you see all these Targarians walking along
Speaker 1: the beach to the boats, is like, how are the
Speaker 1: guards in kings Landing letting the slide first of all?
Speaker 1: And like no one notices like that was exaggerating with
Speaker 1: the thousands, but there's at least over one hundred to
Speaker 1: two hundred Targarians and no one notices like all the
Speaker 1: white hair, and I mean, if you do, you just
Speaker 1: disregard it. Like there were so many Targarians.
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was a shock to me. Was
Speaker 2: just it was like like a comic con event when
Speaker 2: you just have like all the the cosplayed Targarians coming
Speaker 2: to whatever haul. Yeah, there's definitely no lack there of them,
Speaker 2: so no, not at all.
Speaker 1: And so the plan was that we need to get them,
Speaker 1: and we need to put them on two of our dragons,
Speaker 1: Verminthor and I can't remember what the other one is
Speaker 1: with Verma Thor is basically the largest dragon in the
Speaker 1: world aside from Vagar, So that's that's a that's a
Speaker 1: big one there. And I can't remember the two targarian's names,
Speaker 1: but they basically the one guy who's coming up and
Speaker 1: you know, he's looking a little rough around the around
Speaker 1: the edges here because they're all low born, and so
Speaker 1: he's he's got the fucking heart of gold courage. He
Speaker 1: walks up there, he's gonna tame vague verma Thor and
Speaker 1: everything's gonna be great. And then vermin Thor is like
Speaker 1: fuck it and just nukes at least fifty Targarians on
Speaker 1: the spot and then proceeds to be nuking everyone else.
Speaker 1: Our one Targarian in the bar who did not want
Speaker 1: to come here in which is quite funny because when
Speaker 1: he's in the bar, his whole the whole bar is
Speaker 1: like dragon Lord, Dragon Laura, which, man, they're gonna get
Speaker 1: this fucking guy killed if he doesn't make it out
Speaker 1: of this bar, because the guards are gonna come in
Speaker 1: and execute him. But yeah, he flees, and then our
Speaker 1: other guy who is trying to save his daughter ends
Speaker 1: up taming Vermo Thor, which very fitting. I like this
Speaker 1: guy and I think Verma Thor suits him.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, this is this is a character that I
Speaker 2: didn't think of it right away. There was other you
Speaker 2: or Travis that said the guy was probably a targarian,
Speaker 2: and uh, I mean, from this point on, I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna assume anyone that has white hair is just a targarian.
Speaker 2: And that's just that's just that that's kind of the
Speaker 2: rules that we're playing with here. But yeah, this poor
Speaker 2: guy lost his daughter. Think there's two episodes and we
Speaker 2: see them kind of trying to flee the city and
Speaker 2: she's looking mighty pale.
Speaker 3: The daughter died.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh fuck yeah, they it's like an off screen thing.
Speaker 2: It's when he's like talking to his wife. It's like,
Speaker 2: now that we don't have our daughter her, like you know,
Speaker 2: like I can earn a living by being a dragon
Speaker 2: rider and something like that. And then the wife is
Speaker 2: like something along the lines like, well, what if I
Speaker 2: have to pay for a funeral for you or something
Speaker 2: along a major pairaphrasing. But at least that's how I
Speaker 2: took it. It seemed like, I mean, she wasn't there,
Speaker 2: so where was she would she have been? And two
Speaker 2: weeks ago she looked like she was already on the
Speaker 2: brink of death. So I kind of think that especially
Speaker 2: it would fit now that if this guy was doing
Speaker 2: like all the right steps, right he was earning an
Speaker 2: honest like he was working as an honest man, like
Speaker 2: he was a blacksmith building these contraptions for the city guard,
Speaker 2: you know, the king or the crown kind of fucked
Speaker 2: him over for just not paying what he was promised, right,
Speaker 2: Like he was promised all this extra coin to build
Speaker 2: these machines. Because he didn't get that coin, he was
Speaker 2: able to like buy food for his family. His daughter
Speaker 2: got sick, and we already had like that from last
Speaker 2: week's episode. All of the turmoil happened, I mean, all
Speaker 2: the public unrest going on in the city for the
Speaker 2: small folk just trying to basically live in this town,
Speaker 2: and they're just getting sucked over by the crown. So
Speaker 2: he gets all these things that happened to him and
Speaker 2: then loses his daughter and now he has access to
Speaker 2: a dragon It's like, why would he have any reason
Speaker 2: to not go help Rinierra?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Like, I guess he could just be a rogue dragon rider,
Speaker 2: but it seems like his odds are survival are a
Speaker 2: lot better if he actually keeens up with the side.
Speaker 2: And oh yeah, for everything that he's been through, there's
Speaker 2: no way he would have been choosing the High Tower.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think for him, it's the one I'm
Speaker 2: probably the most excited about because of just we've been
Speaker 2: able to really see his own loss that he's that
Speaker 2: that's gone on with him throughout this season. And yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just also liked all the moments
Speaker 2: he had on screen.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's well said.
Speaker 1: He's got his own, his own tribulations, He's endured in
Speaker 1: his own reasonings for pursuing this, So I'm excited to
Speaker 1: see how things are going to fall out for him.
Speaker 1: I have had half a mind to anticipate he was
Speaker 1: the one that was gonna go straight to kings Landing.
Speaker 3: But no, our other boy from the.
Speaker 1: Bar at the tavern, he just played dead and got
Speaker 1: on the dragon, and just when they're in their little
Speaker 1: council meeting, Amon is talking to his lords and then
Speaker 1: you hear like dragon dragon out in the distance, and
Speaker 1: it's like or like, are they attacking already? They didn't
Speaker 1: even train these fucking guys and they're just like.
Speaker 3: Full on sieging.
Speaker 1: Uh not the case. It was just like you know,
Speaker 1: your first flight kind of thing. Just it's a little unpredictable.
Speaker 1: And they went to King's landing. So Amon gets on
Speaker 1: Vagar and holy fuck, I thought we were gonna get
Speaker 1: some crazy shit because we know Vegar.
Speaker 3: It doesn't listen.
Speaker 1: And so when we see Dragonstone in the distance with
Speaker 1: the three dragons and Begar's going and then Amon's all
Speaker 1: of a sudden like fuck like pumping the brakes, like
Speaker 1: flee thegar, flee, and Begar finally turns. You got a
Speaker 1: badass shot of Raniera and then the three dragons behind
Speaker 1: her and now she he's fully she's stocked up, and
Speaker 1: that's that's. Those are the her dragon, Verma Thor, and
Speaker 1: then the other dragon by tavern boy.
Speaker 2: It's not including uh se Smoke.
Speaker 1: And not including I can't remember her name, but the
Speaker 1: other Targarian Damon Targarian's.
Speaker 3: Daughter Bayla Beyla still has Bela well. Is Baila the
Speaker 3: young one?
Speaker 2: Beyla is the one that was like she almost charred
Speaker 2: Sir Kristen Allison's brother. And then I think Raina is
Speaker 2: the one that tried to bond with Vagar but but
Speaker 2: like got mrked and then so now she's looking after
Speaker 2: Ranier as kids down somewhere. And then she's also about
Speaker 2: to interact with a very large dragon. Now is that
Speaker 2: the same one that, like the really big one or
Speaker 2: is this a different wild This is.
Speaker 1: A different wild dragon that the Targarian is just fucking lost,
Speaker 1: which is not good.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming though, that she's gonna find it in bond
Speaker 2: with it. That's kind of my hard read there, especially
Speaker 2: since she missed out on the opportunity to get already
Speaker 2: a large dragon.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean that's.
Speaker 2: Another ally to Rainier's cause. So yeah, they're like overnight,
Speaker 2: it seems they're just multiplying their dragon numbers.
Speaker 1: Well, let's just sit So you're gonna have I'm assuming
Speaker 1: David's gonna return with his dragon and the River Run army.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have the North come in with their army.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have Rania with her dragon, and the two
Speaker 1: two Tigerian bastards with their dragons, Alan of Hall and
Speaker 1: then Rena of with finding her rogue dragon. So Rnera
Speaker 1: is gonna be like, what the fuck where this badass
Speaker 1: come from? And then we're gonna have we have just
Speaker 1: Jace with his dragon.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Bena? Is that how you say your name? Belad with
Speaker 3: her dragon?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: And who do we have on house Green? Like, there's
Speaker 1: only Ragar the king got fucking marked with his dragon,
Speaker 1: so that leaves I guess the queen. The queen has
Speaker 1: her dragon, but she's not fighting anyone with her dragon.
Speaker 1: She's playing Alison's. Allison also said that I think it
Speaker 1: was last week when she's talking to her brother about
Speaker 1: her other son, right, like he's like sixteen now, and
Speaker 1: then in this episode they had mentioned that he was
Speaker 1: going to be getting a dragon here pretty soon. So
Speaker 1: I guess that's one additional one to their cause. So
Speaker 1: they had a son with like the Saracen had a
Speaker 1: son and then just sent him away to go live.
Speaker 2: In then, yeah, because that was the one we were like,
Speaker 2: we thought that she had another son early in the season,
Speaker 2: and they didn't really talk about him at all, and
Speaker 2: then just yeah, in last week's episode it was mentioned
Speaker 2: I think for the first time. Yeah, yeah, it.
Speaker 3: Was Okay, Well that's interesting.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see how that's kind of play. Apparently
Speaker 1: he's kind I remember they said that, so you know.
Speaker 3: You want to be you want to become.
Speaker 2: He's like a tyrant. He's like one hundred times worse
Speaker 2: than Jeffrey aim And like anyone that's been in the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I have anything else to add
Speaker 1: to any that. Was there anything you wanted to sneak
Speaker 1: in there on just.
Speaker 3: Aimen?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to for I mean, it's yeah, it's
Speaker 2: it's good that Amon was able to kind of turn
Speaker 2: Vega around. I don't think that really would have gone
Speaker 2: well for him. And I don't know if a vegaar
Speaker 2: looked pretty much fully recovered from the fight with may
Speaker 2: Le's way back at Rooks Rest, so it seemed like
Speaker 2: he's ready to fight. But even then, I don't know
Speaker 2: that's that's a lot of dragons to be going against,
Speaker 2: even if he is one big bad dragon. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't think I really have anything else to say
Speaker 2: on the Targetians and the Dragons and it's it's it's
Speaker 2: one of those things where it's just because we got
Speaker 2: it all in this episode. Part of me is like,
Speaker 2: that's just a lot to like kind of introduce now,
Speaker 2: Like we have all these brand new Dragon riders and
Speaker 2: now we're just gonna be I guess, just training them
Speaker 2: in bulk and interacting with them in bulk as opposed
Speaker 2: to like being able to kind of sprinkle them throughout
Speaker 2: the season. So that's just like kind of where I'm
Speaker 2: feeling right now. But who knows, maybe maybe they'll they'll
Speaker 2: be able to do it in a really just palatable way.
Speaker 2: But I'll hold my criticisms until then and see how
Speaker 2: it happens next next season or sorry, next episode, because
Speaker 2: I feel like next episode, if they are just fully
Speaker 2: geared up and they're just fucking popping off on kings
Speaker 2: Landing at the start of next week's episode, I definitely
Speaker 2: although I'll love to see it, I think that's a
Speaker 2: major con m m.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now, I think we'll probably get like a little bit
Speaker 1: of a time jump of some kind, probably like a
Speaker 1: week or a couple of weeks, and these riders are
Speaker 1: going to be finally trained up because now that Amen
Speaker 1: has flown there and sees that they got a fleet
Speaker 1: of dragons and they could see that. Okay, someone is
Speaker 1: riding this dragon, and we know ce Smoker also has
Speaker 1: a rider, so now he knows, Okay, Rainier has got
Speaker 1: an army of dragons with riders ready to go. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty terrifying for him. So we'll see, we'll
Speaker 1: definitely see. And I think you're right, Christian Cole, Well,
Speaker 1: I guess shave Shay you said pitched it that Cole's
Speaker 1: getting snuffed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's get axe. I mean like it's interest because
Speaker 2: I feel like the peak stuff with him, it's definitely
Speaker 2: getting pushed like like be like we're kind of moving
Speaker 2: away from from that stuff where it seemed like he
Speaker 2: was he was a gone's hand right, like like that
Speaker 2: was kind of his guy. It seems like aim and
Speaker 2: although he's kind of plotted with Sir Kristen, like he's
Speaker 2: kind of I don't know if he's lost it or
Speaker 2: if he's ever had like just losing respect for Kristin.
Speaker 2: He definitely is aware of his nighttime foolery with his
Speaker 2: you know, his mother, and it just seems like they
Speaker 2: like he's kind of done with them, especially ever since
Speaker 2: the whole rooks Rest incident, Like Sir Kristen Cole has
Speaker 2: been looking at him differently too, especially just kind of
Speaker 2: realizing what's happened between like him and his brother and
Speaker 2: how like he actually almost just killed the king and
Speaker 2: like this is a big deal, but he's kind of
Speaker 2: just letting it go. And although he's not an honorable
Speaker 2: man at all, I still feel like that is kind
Speaker 2: of a dilemma, like a weight on his shoulders. And
Speaker 2: I could totally be convinced if he is just almost
Speaker 2: trying to die now like going forward, like like like
Speaker 2: he just can't handle all of all of the game
Speaker 2: the Thrones and then and what it takes. Like I
Speaker 2: feel like I feel like the Rookrest incident really fucked
Speaker 2: him up in his psyche. So yeah, I'm curious as
Speaker 2: to what's what's gonna happen going forward. I'm I feel
Speaker 2: like with it when Auto comes back though, he like
Speaker 2: he's really gonna be just a good like heat sink
Speaker 2: for the entire like green side of just being able
Speaker 2: to really smooth the waters on like any everyone's tensions
Speaker 2: and and kind of be able to rally the squad
Speaker 2: and just focus their focuses in like a uniform, unified
Speaker 2: direction because you know, Auto is a fantastic Canada the King, like,
Speaker 2: he is really strategic and knowledgeable and what to do
Speaker 2: in court. So I definitely think, especially now, like the
Speaker 2: Greenhouse definitely needs that guy back on their side. They
Speaker 2: they're not doing too great right now, totally. They need that.
Speaker 1: They need someone with experience, and he's definitely got it.
Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to him coming back and slapping
Speaker 1: down that table I.
Speaker 2: Got taking that pin off top of who's wearing the
Speaker 2: pin right now? Right? Because he sent Lord Laris.
Speaker 1: To oh right, yeah, so he's putting the pin back on.
Speaker 3: He's coming.
Speaker 2: Christen's gonna come back wearing his like necklace thing, Like,
Speaker 2: what the Fuck's that?
Speaker 3: I got nothing else to add. I think we hit
Speaker 3: everything ahead. I agree. Well, we will be back next week.
Speaker 1: Travis will be making his return for the finale as well,
Speaker 1: and it's going to be good, so be sure to
Speaker 1: check it out.
Speaker 2: Yea.
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