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<v Speaker 1>Now one of your pudding. I got a string going

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<v Speaker 1>on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog,

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<v Speaker 1>my dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how it did it, Okay, damn, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over

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<v Speaker 1>the fence and he was dead. And once you hit

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<v Speaker 1>the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I

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<v Speaker 1>saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat what

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<v Speaker 1>are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling

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<v Speaker 1>around out here? Did you see what it was?

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<v Speaker 2>Or was it was?

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<v Speaker 1>Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus quice, you better hello, hit the body out here

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm out there. I thought of a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>about text nine. I don't know easy, I'm out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the book and right, hey, all right, folks, own

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<v Speaker 3>to welcome our guest to the show, who shall remain anonymous.

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<v Speaker 3>But we will start in the same place I start

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<v Speaker 3>with everybody who comes on the show. What got you

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<v Speaker 3>interested in the subject of bigfoot sasquatch?

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<v Speaker 4>To begin with, My first memory of sasquatch was in

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<v Speaker 4>the second grade. There was a book in my library

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<v Speaker 4>in elementary school. And I still remember that I saw

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<v Speaker 4>the book from across the room and I didn't even

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<v Speaker 4>know it was about and I was just drawn to

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<v Speaker 4>this book and I opened it. I knew I was

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<v Speaker 4>involved with something that wasn't like my cartoons. Something just

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<v Speaker 4>made me gravitate towards this book and I read it.

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<v Speaker 4>I had this feeling, even at such a young age,

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<v Speaker 4>that there was something not normal about this subject, and

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<v Speaker 4>not normal about this subject in relationship to me, even

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<v Speaker 4>at such a young age. Really, that is my first memory.

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<v Speaker 4>My second experience. I was seventeen on the last exit

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<v Speaker 4>before Bear Mountain, New York, Bear Mountain Resort, which is

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<v Speaker 4>about an hour north of New York City.

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<v Speaker 5>This was in nineteen ninety.

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<v Speaker 4>I was with my girlfriend at the time. It was

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<v Speaker 4>close to dusk, were going through a walk in the

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<v Speaker 4>woods by Lake teer Rod. All of a sudden, we

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<v Speaker 4>saw what today everyone's saying, the telltale shimmer of predator.

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<v Speaker 4>But we saw the air was just warbling. There were

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch of deer by who weren't running away from us,

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<v Speaker 4>They were just staring at the air. Me and my

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<v Speaker 4>girlfriend were just looking at this not knowing what we

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<v Speaker 4>were seeing. All of a sudden, this roar came out

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<v Speaker 4>of nowhere. It vibrated our bones. I didn't really know

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<v Speaker 4>much about Bigfoot at the time. I was very interested

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<v Speaker 4>in the subject as a kid, but I knew at

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<v Speaker 4>that moment somehow there was a Bigfoot right there. I

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<v Speaker 4>guess it was about three years later, in the early nineties,

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<v Speaker 4>right after The X Files was coming out, I saw

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<v Speaker 4>this special about Bigfoot. I saw people going deep into

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<v Speaker 4>the woods trying to look for Bigfoot. And on the

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<v Speaker 4>same episode they had some Native American shaman who said

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<v Speaker 4>that he was interacting with Bigfoot. I believed him. At

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<v Speaker 4>that young age, at that very stupid young age, whatever

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<v Speaker 4>I was, came up with a brilliant at least in

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<v Speaker 4>my mind, a brilliant play, which was everybody who goes

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<v Speaker 4>into the woods trying to find Bigfoot seems to not

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<v Speaker 4>find Bigfoot. I didn't think my skills in the woods

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<v Speaker 4>were anything. I could walk a few miles into the

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<v Speaker 4>woods and come out, but I knew I was gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be like.

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<v Speaker 5>Some of these trackers.

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<v Speaker 4>I was never going to be like some of these

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<v Speaker 4>military trained people who could go and find people. It

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<v Speaker 4>seemed like a lot of work. So I came up

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<v Speaker 4>with a plan. At this young age, I realized that

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<v Speaker 4>there were people all over the world from some tradition

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<v Speaker 4>that they had learned from their ancestors. They claimed to

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<v Speaker 4>have been taught how to interact with Bigfoot. I thought

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<v Speaker 4>it would be a lot easier to get a human

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<v Speaker 4>who claimed to know how to interact with Bigfoot to

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<v Speaker 4>teach me how to interact with Bigfoot. Then it would

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<v Speaker 4>be to get Bigfoot to interact with me. So I

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<v Speaker 4>made up the plan that I would try to find

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<v Speaker 4>with these people for the next twenty years. I annoyed,

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<v Speaker 4>literally annoyed. Anybody would do cold calls. I would call

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<v Speaker 4>Native American reservations. When the Internet started, they might have

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<v Speaker 4>one number.

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<v Speaker 5>I would call and.

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<v Speaker 4>Ask if thinking buddy knew how to interact with Bigfoot,

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<v Speaker 4>and would they teach me. After twenty years of getting rejected,

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<v Speaker 4>one person said yes, that was a shaman from Nepal

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<v Speaker 4>who was passing through my area. That person taught me

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<v Speaker 4>how to interact with Bickfoot from the very first time

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<v Speaker 4>they came out of the woods, and they still continue

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<v Speaker 4>to come out to me.

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<v Speaker 5>That is the short story of how it all happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about these interactions that you've had with these creatures.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's start from the very beginning. Once you got this

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<v Speaker 3>training from the shaman. What kind of interactions were you

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<v Speaker 3>having and have you had.

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<v Speaker 6>Over the years with these creatures.

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<v Speaker 4>The very first time I was with my girlfriend who

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<v Speaker 4>is now my wife. We went out from my friend's

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<v Speaker 4>house who lives by the Alleghany Mountains. We went out

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<v Speaker 4>in the woods at dusk. There's a certain location in

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<v Speaker 4>the woods that is conducive to interacting with Bigfoot. There's

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<v Speaker 4>a certain set of body language that is conducive interacting

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<v Speaker 4>with them. There's a very specific offering, not gift offering.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a little bit of a difference, at least in

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<v Speaker 4>my definition and what I was taught. We tout the

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<v Speaker 4>offering down and walked away a bit, sat down on

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<v Speaker 4>a tree where we could see it, and we started

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<v Speaker 4>to hear rustling. To make a very long story short,

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<v Speaker 4>an older sasquatch appeared right in front of us with

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<v Speaker 4>what looked like either his daughter or his wife. I

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<v Speaker 4>never found out. A very young sasquatch was standing between them,

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<v Speaker 4>and he was probably about three and a half feet

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<v Speaker 4>and to our left, there was a little hill. To

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<v Speaker 4>our right there was like a flat area, and then

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<v Speaker 4>we could see three very massive bigfoot to our left

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<v Speaker 4>and we could hear two of them stomping around to

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<v Speaker 4>our right. There probably was some behind us. That was

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<v Speaker 4>my very first experience. It was an overwhelmingly peaceful energy.

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<v Speaker 4>That would be my main takeaway from that experience was

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<v Speaker 4>that the methods that I learned, they come to me.

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<v Speaker 5>It's exceedingly peaceful.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything I have to say from what I understand of

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<v Speaker 4>the Sasquatch world and language, it's going to start at

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<v Speaker 4>wu and then take off in a way that I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not going to try to justify. This is what I've learned,

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<v Speaker 4>and this is what happens. Since that experience. Since that

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<v Speaker 4>very first time, I have personally physically seen over one hundred.

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<v Speaker 5>And ten individuals. I've lost count.

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<v Speaker 4>The counting I have is one hundred and ten physical

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<v Speaker 4>sightings of Bigfoot, all of them within thirty feet. I've

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<v Speaker 4>had one physical interaction. I was at a Native American reservation.

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<v Speaker 4>There's ten of them near me and I have a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of friends. I interacted with the Bigfoot on their

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<v Speaker 4>land with his family.

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<v Speaker 5>Right there.

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<v Speaker 4>I built up the nerve to actually bring or dures

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<v Speaker 4>moores actually on a platter to one of them. They

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<v Speaker 4>didn't take it, but a female saucequatch petty to me.

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<v Speaker 4>It was pretty dark. What I remember most was her

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<v Speaker 4>armpit hair, because when she petted me, her hand reached

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<v Speaker 4>out way further than I ever thought an arm good

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<v Speaker 4>light tap on my head, but it buckled my knees.

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<v Speaker 4>And I consider myself a bigger man. I'm about six

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<v Speaker 4>foot two twenty worked out most of my life.

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<v Speaker 5>That light touch just buckled my knees.

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<v Speaker 4>I have seen Bigfoot in Western New York Bighampton area, Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 4>in the Adirondacks, Vancouver area. That was a big one.

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<v Speaker 4>That was the biggest one ever. That's when twenty Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 4>came out at the base of Mount Chean. That was

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<v Speaker 4>a very big place.

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<v Speaker 5>That was one place.

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<v Speaker 4>Where I actually was starting to engage with I guess

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<v Speaker 4>you could say Bigfoot spirituality. They actually gave me a

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<v Speaker 4>teaching which we could get into later. I've been doing

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<v Speaker 4>this now for almost ten years, had so many experiences

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<v Speaker 4>with them that it'd be hard to go through all

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<v Speaker 4>of them. Recently, my experience with them has deepened to

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<v Speaker 4>such a degree that wanted to talk about it, and

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<v Speaker 4>thank you for letting me talk about it in the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, before we get into the most recent experiences, you

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<v Speaker 3>said Vancouver was big, let's eventually get there. Let's go

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<v Speaker 3>maybe two or three experiences before Vancouver that if stuck

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<v Speaker 3>out to you over the last ten years. Walk us

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<v Speaker 3>through where you were, what you were doing, and tell

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<v Speaker 3>us what happened during those experiences. And let's get into

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<v Speaker 3>the Vancouver experience and then go through the most recent.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess the worm that sticks out right now happen

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<v Speaker 4>in the Adirondecks by Oxbow Lake, which is a small

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<v Speaker 4>little lake in the Adirondecks. I was renting a cabin there.

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<v Speaker 4>I was doing a sort of personal retreat. I had

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<v Speaker 4>left out the offering when I got there. That engaged

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<v Speaker 4>for about two three days on a personal retreat. Nothing happened.

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<v Speaker 4>But when I was done and I had closed down

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<v Speaker 4>the retreat, all of a sudden, I was serenaded, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's the right word, serenaded by a handclapping song. There

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<v Speaker 4>was a bigfoot I would say about twenty five feet

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<v Speaker 4>in the woods. It was up on a rocky ledge,

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<v Speaker 4>so there was definitely a barrier between me and them.

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<v Speaker 4>They were up on the ledge. They were clapping out

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<v Speaker 4>a song with a melody, with a cadence that I

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<v Speaker 4>had never heard in any human song. It was beautiful.

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<v Speaker 4>It was not a rhythm I have any relationship too,

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<v Speaker 4>but it was beautiful. I did understand that that it

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<v Speaker 4>was beautiful. What I remember now, because it's hard to

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<v Speaker 4>remember the exact tempo. It was so loud that I

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<v Speaker 4>could feel the quality of his hands the way the

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<v Speaker 4>sound came across it would have had to have been.

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<v Speaker 4>Not that I could see his hands, and not that

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<v Speaker 4>I could see the bigfoot. Clearly, they tend to have

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<v Speaker 4>some sort of covering. They usually never fully come out

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<v Speaker 4>in the open. They usually have some sort of cover.

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<v Speaker 4>I just remember that the feeling of the sound was

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<v Speaker 4>so powerful that I could almost hear the type of

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<v Speaker 4>hands that this bigfoot had. I had the sense that

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<v Speaker 4>it was a man. I had the sense that his

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<v Speaker 4>palms were really thick. It was all based off the sound.

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<v Speaker 4>It seemed to be a sign of respect. The only

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<v Speaker 4>thing I can relate it to is I've seen cross

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<v Speaker 4>cultural dances between Native Americans. That is as close as

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<v Speaker 4>I could explain that one. It probably went on for

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<v Speaker 4>fifteen minutes, then it stopped, then it started up again

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<v Speaker 4>for another five minutes. There was just this finality to it,

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<v Speaker 4>and we went our separate ways. That one really stands

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<v Speaker 4>out to me because I had the sense of a

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<v Speaker 4>mutual respect of religiosity between that being and what I

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<v Speaker 4>was doing. Up until quite recently, there was a normal

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<v Speaker 4>cadence to almost all my interactions. I would call them

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<v Speaker 4>through the methods I had learned, they would show up.

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<v Speaker 4>Now when they're showing up, I can feel them coming

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<v Speaker 4>long before.

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<v Speaker 5>They show up.

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<v Speaker 4>Their energy is so powerful that wherever I am, the

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<v Speaker 4>pressure in the area just starts to increase. It's almost

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<v Speaker 4>it seemed like they're getting closer, and then they start

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<v Speaker 4>showing up. They always seem to understand how I can

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<v Speaker 4>they always seem to blend into the shadows around me perfectly,

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<v Speaker 4>so that they have complete anonymity if they want to.

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<v Speaker 4>It seems like I only ever see them when they

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<v Speaker 4>understand the relationship of my eyesight to the shadows around me.

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<v Speaker 4>It's exactly like they are a part of nature. The light,

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<v Speaker 4>the shadows, the rustling of the trees. They just are

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<v Speaker 4>a part of it. Then what usually happens is I

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<v Speaker 4>that they think I'm dumb because I can't understand what

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<v Speaker 4>they are doing with me, which is a sort of pressure,

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<v Speaker 4>a sort of feeling that I get that they're trying

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<v Speaker 4>this is always within thirty feet. Twenty thirty minutes may

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<v Speaker 4>I get the feeling most of the time that I'm

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<v Speaker 4>holding them up, you know what I'm saying. It's been

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<v Speaker 4>like that for quite a few years. Where I would call,

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<v Speaker 4>they might sometimes just show up, say nothing, go away.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of times they'll just walk around in the

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<v Speaker 4>would say, of the one hundred and eighty two hundred

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<v Speaker 4>times I've reached out to them, maybe like ten nothing's happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Usually some one or two show up, or they just

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<v Speaker 4>howl from way out in the distance, let me know

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<v Speaker 4>that at least they've heard me. But it's been ten

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<v Speaker 4>years of many different phases of interacting with them.

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<v Speaker 6>Tune for more sasquatch otasy well be right back after

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<v Speaker 4>There was a one phase where it was really crazy,

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<v Speaker 4>where I'd be in my friend's house. We'd just be

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<v Speaker 4>camping out in his yard, having a bonfire. Everybody would

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<v Speaker 4>go to sleep, but I would just walk in the

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<v Speaker 4>I can feel their energy coming from the woods, and

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<v Speaker 4>they'd be all around me at two in the morning,

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<v Speaker 4>in the middle of the woods, maybe forty feet off

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<v Speaker 4>the main road, down a dirt road. I'd be terrified

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<v Speaker 4>because they're so huge. I'm just six feet. One of

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<v Speaker 4>these big guys could just pick me up with one hand.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd never be seen again. But they always seemed playful,

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<v Speaker 4>like they were just messing with a kid, brother or something.

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<v Speaker 4>A couple of them like to what I think would

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<v Speaker 4>be punk me out, But it always seemed like at

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<v Speaker 4>the end that it was just in good fun. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>I would go out and do my spiritual practices out

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<v Speaker 4>in the woods. That's where very interesting events really took place.

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<v Speaker 4>I would go out, I would do practices that transmit

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<v Speaker 4>benevolence to beings. During those events, those interactions, that's when

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<v Speaker 4>they would send back to me their version of goodwill,

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<v Speaker 4>which it's all overpowering that it's hard to be around,

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<v Speaker 4>just to physically withstand the level of their energy. There

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<v Speaker 4>was one Bigfoot in particular, who I could only describe

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<v Speaker 4>from my knowing what I would guess would be like

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<v Speaker 4>a Bigfoot saint. Because there was this one valley where

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<v Speaker 4>I would go, I would call and do my spiritual

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<v Speaker 4>practices of benevolence towards them. Could feel this guy coming

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<v Speaker 4>from way deep in the valley, and it was like

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<v Speaker 4>the valley was being filled with peace and good will

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<v Speaker 4>to such a degree that it was hard to be

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<v Speaker 4>even in my own skin because their energy was so powerful.

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<v Speaker 4>So when I went to visit a friend in Vancouver,

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<v Speaker 4>we were camping at a place called Cheam Fishing Village.

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<v Speaker 4>We were camping there for a week. Our campsite was

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<v Speaker 4>right at the river and across the river was Mount Chein.

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<v Speaker 4>All week, I swore I was communicating with some Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 4>at the top of the mountain. It was like I

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<v Speaker 4>was in psychic communication with them. But I'm not a

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<v Speaker 4>big psychic guy. I'm not really into that. But every

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<v Speaker 4>time I would sit down and just look at this mountain,

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<v Speaker 4>I swore that they were.

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<v Speaker 5>Communicating with me.

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<v Speaker 4>Towards the end of the week, I confided in my

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<v Speaker 4>friends that, hey, I do this, and they were like,

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<v Speaker 4>the guy, I'm like, no, I really do this. I

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<v Speaker 4>really do interact with the Sasquatch. I'd be hey, I

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<v Speaker 4>learned it from the shaman from Nepal. Here's the whole story.

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<v Speaker 4>And they're like and so it's like, hey, look, I'll

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<v Speaker 4>get the materials.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll go across.

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<v Speaker 4>There was like a dried out riverbed to our right,

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<v Speaker 4>and then on the far end of the dried out riverbed,

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<v Speaker 4>there's this island there. If you look up Cheamfishing Village

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<v Speaker 4>on Google Maps, you can see what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>There was a dried out riverbed usually gets with two

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<v Speaker 4>or three feet of water, but right now you could

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<v Speaker 4>totally walk over to this island.

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<v Speaker 5>So we walk over to the island and.

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<v Speaker 4>I put out it was like dusk, and I put

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<v Speaker 4>out the offerings and there was like this massive tree

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<v Speaker 4>that we were sitting on. That was a bit i'd say,

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<v Speaker 4>like fifty feet from the offerings. Then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 4>about five minutes later, we heard the sound of wings.

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<v Speaker 4>We didn't see the bird. We just heard the rustling

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<v Speaker 4>of wings from a bird that sounded larger than anything

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<v Speaker 4>we could ever imagine. I imagine like a six foot

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<v Speaker 4>bird was somehow in there, but I never saw, and

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<v Speaker 4>neither did my friends. And all of a sudden in

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<v Speaker 4>the tree line there was one bigfoot, two bigfoot, three bigfoots,

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<v Speaker 4>And then we lost count. Somewhere around eighteen or nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>we could see them at the base of these trees.

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<v Speaker 4>That was the first time I felt, in the moments afterwards,

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<v Speaker 4>that I was in deep communion with a bigfoot. I

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<v Speaker 4>received what would be called a transmission. Now what a

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<v Speaker 4>transmission is it's in many different spiritual cultures, is when

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<v Speaker 4>spiritual energy is lodged into your spine as a data

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<v Speaker 4>encoding of information, which basically allows you to practice whatever

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<v Speaker 4>spiritual practice you're receiving it from. So safe as Sufi

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<v Speaker 4>Master gave you a transmission, you'd be able to practice

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<v Speaker 4>that supie practice. If an Islamic teacher of Islamic mysticism,

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<v Speaker 4>trans or do something you'd be able to do. Islam

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<v Speaker 4>I practice as tradition that does this. I knew I

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<v Speaker 4>was getting a transmission. The gist of this practice is understanding.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like an avatar of a Bigfoot is standing on

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<v Speaker 4>a mountain that is all mountains, and you learn to

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<v Speaker 4>transmit the goodness of all things to all beings. In short,

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<v Speaker 4>that's what I learned from their perspective that it's also

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<v Speaker 4>another thing that I use to interact with Bigfoot. I

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<v Speaker 4>get a little emotional talking about it. It was a

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<v Speaker 4>very beautiful experience. That's some of the more memorable ones.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go back and lay a little bit of foundation.

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<v Speaker 3>You mentioned the shaman that trained you in these techniques

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<v Speaker 3>to interact.

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<v Speaker 5>With these creatures. Let's talk a little bit about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell the folk that are listening what that entails, how

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<v Speaker 3>that training came about, and what the shaman shared with

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<v Speaker 3>you to allow you to communicate with these beings.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'm a part of a spiritual lineage. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>really matter which one I'm in. The important part of

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<v Speaker 4>the spiritual lineage is that, like many spiritual lineages, you

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<v Speaker 4>have to go through a series of steps to understand

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<v Speaker 4>the later things. The later practices. The first couple of

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<v Speaker 4>steps are arguably all the same. Focus the mind and

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<v Speaker 4>learn to focus the mind, go through some sort of

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<v Speaker 4>spiritual cleansing, develop your morals and your virtue. Then stabilize

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<v Speaker 4>in the basics. What I learned from the shaman was

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<v Speaker 4>based on having the foundations pretty much down. I had

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<v Speaker 4>been a part of a spiritual lineage. I had those basics,

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<v Speaker 4>so when the shaman taught me what he taught me,

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<v Speaker 4>I was able to use those skills quite easily.

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<v Speaker 5>With the shaman taught me was based upon.

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<v Speaker 4>A Nepalese man whose main practice was caring for all

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<v Speaker 4>the bigfoot. A lot of people specialize in things, and

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<v Speaker 4>this particular individual specialized in caring for them, and he

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<v Speaker 4>had set up protocols on how to interact with them.

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<v Speaker 4>That became the basis of human and bigfoot interactions throughout

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<v Speaker 4>most of Tibet, Nepal, India. I just got the book

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<v Speaker 4>about two years ago. There is actually a book that

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<v Speaker 4>is even a later version of the Teachings of Interactions

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<v Speaker 4>with Bigfoot eighteen hundred pages. And then you have to

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<v Speaker 4>do all this stuff that looks like quite a bit

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<v Speaker 4>of work, and I haven't even barely engaged that. This

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<v Speaker 4>particular man in Nepal wrote that book. The basic protocols

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<v Speaker 4>of interacting with them is what the Nepalese shaman taught me.

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<v Speaker 4>He was actually from the Nowari region of Nepal. The

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<v Speaker 4>basics of that is that you connect with the earth

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<v Speaker 4>in a certain way. You offer these offerings that you

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<v Speaker 4>imbibe with tremendous amounts of goodwill. Now it is a

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<v Speaker 4>very specific offering that takes a couple of days to make.

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<v Speaker 4>Then you learn to focus your mind, and if you've

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<v Speaker 4>learned to parmonize with the earth, you then request.

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<v Speaker 5>That they come out.

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<v Speaker 4>And that is basically it. Now, I know that sounds

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<v Speaker 4>really basic. Many people have asked me to show them

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<v Speaker 4>how to interact with bigfoot. In the last eight or

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<v Speaker 4>nine years I've been talking about it. Only one has

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<v Speaker 4>actually done what I told them to do. That person

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<v Speaker 4>actually has a small Bigfoot channel. They're doing quite well.

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<v Speaker 4>Apparently he tells me they come out and he has

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<v Speaker 4>some of the stimilar experiences that I do. People have

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<v Speaker 4>asked me how do you interact with them? Here's step one.

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<v Speaker 4>Look at a candle for an hour a day for

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<v Speaker 4>three months. Step two, find some sort of spiritual cleansing

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<v Speaker 4>practice that works on your physical body, your energy body,

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<v Speaker 4>and your spirit body. It doesn't matter what tradition. Then

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<v Speaker 4>step three, try to develop goodwill towards all things. At

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<v Speaker 4>the same time you're doing this, learn to harmonize with nature.

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<v Speaker 4>People ask me what is harmonize with nature? Be of

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<v Speaker 4>clean mind and body that you have worked towards. Go

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<v Speaker 4>into the woods and listen to the wind. Go into

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<v Speaker 4>the woods, listen to the water, because wind and water

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<v Speaker 4>are the language of nature. Feel yourself becoming one with

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<v Speaker 4>the forest, with the earth, and just let it happen.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm not trying to say go out there and

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<v Speaker 4>get all koung fui and mystical. I was saying, go

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<v Speaker 4>in the woods, listen, and just like you would with

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<v Speaker 4>any good friends, have a good time, and be relaxed

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<v Speaker 4>and be grounded, and not really try to achieve some

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<v Speaker 4>great mystical state, but just be present like you would

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<v Speaker 4>with any friends. If you were just relaxing, then reach

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<v Speaker 4>out to the Bigfoot. That's the basics of what I

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<v Speaker 4>was taught. Are there more details?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Is the offering that I use very specific to calling

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<v Speaker 4>the Bigfoot. Yes, but that is something my teacher has said,

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<v Speaker 4>don't share that. But it doesn't really matter, because this

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<v Speaker 4>one gentleman who listened to me doesn't know the offering,

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't know the details of what my teacher taught me.

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<v Speaker 4>He didn't even do all the teps that I just

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<v Speaker 4>outlined here, but he did a bunch of them and

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<v Speaker 4>he's having phenomenal results.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's talk a little bit about the different in gifting

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<v Speaker 3>versus this offering that you're talking about. At least for me,

422
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<v Speaker 3>gifting is something that I wasn't really into when I

423
00:26:09.079 --> 00:26:11.279
<v Speaker 3>got into this. I am more of a flesh and

424
00:26:11.319 --> 00:26:14.400
<v Speaker 3>blood kind of researcher. That's where I come from when

425
00:26:14.440 --> 00:26:17.680
<v Speaker 3>I approach this research and interacting with these creatures. I've

426
00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:20.200
<v Speaker 3>had three encounters last summer where I get to see

427
00:26:20.279 --> 00:26:23.119
<v Speaker 3>these things and interact with them. It was a very

428
00:26:23.319 --> 00:26:27.279
<v Speaker 3>physical interaction with me, So I am more of a scientific,

429
00:26:27.400 --> 00:26:30.559
<v Speaker 3>flesh and blood kind of god. It appears that you're

430
00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:33.039
<v Speaker 3>not going to get into what this offering is. But

431
00:26:33.559 --> 00:26:36.359
<v Speaker 3>at least for the audience that's listening and for my benefit,

432
00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:39.920
<v Speaker 3>let's talk a little bit about the difference in a

433
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<v Speaker 3>gifting situation leaving these things marbles or apples versus what

434
00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:47.799
<v Speaker 3>you're talking about as far as an offering is concerned,

435
00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:49.519
<v Speaker 3>can you at least talk a little bit about that

436
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<v Speaker 3>before we get into some of your more recent interactions

437
00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:52.759
<v Speaker 3>with these things.

438
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<v Speaker 4>So the question is, what is the difference between gifting

439
00:26:56.599 --> 00:27:00.319
<v Speaker 4>and offerings? Okay, gifting is where you take some thing

440
00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:04.119
<v Speaker 4>and you leave it out for the bigfoot. An offering

441
00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:11.519
<v Speaker 4>is where you take something and imbue it with positivity,

442
00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:15.480
<v Speaker 4>of your own energy, of your own imagining, and of

443
00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:19.839
<v Speaker 4>your own labor. The best example I have is when

444
00:27:20.440 --> 00:27:23.960
<v Speaker 4>Christians and Catholics light a candle to say, like the

445
00:27:24.079 --> 00:27:28.240
<v Speaker 4>Mother Mary, they light a candle, that lit candle. At

446
00:27:28.279 --> 00:27:31.359
<v Speaker 4>that point it could be either an offering or what

447
00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:35.200
<v Speaker 4>we're talking about here is gifting that lick candle. Then

448
00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:39.440
<v Speaker 4>you could do a prayer and fill that light that

449
00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:44.839
<v Speaker 4>candle is emitting with the prayers for the benefiting of

450
00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:50.720
<v Speaker 4>all beings, for world peace, for prayer for a loved one.

451
00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:55.160
<v Speaker 4>But you can take your energy, your spiritual energy, your thoughts,

452
00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:59.160
<v Speaker 4>all of your positivity and put it into that candle.

453
00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:06.480
<v Speaker 4>When you enliven an object with positivity of any sort

454
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:13.960
<v Speaker 4>from any tradition that transforms any physical object into something different.

455
00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:19.119
<v Speaker 4>And here's the really important part that gifting doesn't do.

456
00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:23.920
<v Speaker 4>It's just by your intention transmit everything you have put

457
00:28:24.039 --> 00:28:27.599
<v Speaker 4>into that offering into the spirit realm. It doesn't have

458
00:28:27.680 --> 00:28:30.400
<v Speaker 4>to be anything. It could just be something as simple

459
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:33.599
<v Speaker 4>as saying amen. It could be something like a step

460
00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:36.480
<v Speaker 4>of the fingers. It doesn't have to be much, and

461
00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:39.519
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't have to be elaborate. Gifting is where you

462
00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:43.519
<v Speaker 4>just take an object and it's like a barter system.

463
00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:49.200
<v Speaker 4>An offering shows your intent. It also shows your spiritual capacity.

464
00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:55.640
<v Speaker 4>It allows your gifting object to be transformed into the

465
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<v Speaker 4>level of imagination, visualization, spiritual power that you are capable.

466
00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:05.079
<v Speaker 4>So you could turn a little cookie into a vast

467
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:08.839
<v Speaker 4>ocean of goodness. And now that may not mean much

468
00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:12.799
<v Speaker 4>to most humans, but to beings that are sometimes spiritual,

469
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:17.279
<v Speaker 4>like the Bigfoot are that means all the difference. It

470
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:22.240
<v Speaker 4>shows your quality of character because anytime you put your

471
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:26.200
<v Speaker 4>energy into something, it's your signature moment. It tells spiritual

472
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:29.559
<v Speaker 4>beings everything about you. I would call it gifting bartering

473
00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:34.880
<v Speaker 4>in a way. An offering is a complete expression of

474
00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:40.359
<v Speaker 4>everything you are attached to. Some object that could be limitless,

475
00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:46.200
<v Speaker 4>that could transmit that goodwill for the rest of your life.

476
00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:49.519
<v Speaker 4>If you just left, Saydak, something that's permanent, like a

477
00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:53.160
<v Speaker 4>little figurine of something nice, and you prayed over it

478
00:29:53.319 --> 00:29:55.519
<v Speaker 4>or put goodwill into it for months and then left

479
00:29:55.559 --> 00:30:00.240
<v Speaker 4>it out, that figurine might transmit all of your good

480
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:02.240
<v Speaker 4>will for the rest of your life, even if you

481
00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:04.720
<v Speaker 4>never see it again. That does something very different.

482
00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:09.000
<v Speaker 6>Stay tuned for more sasquatch out Toesy, we'll be right

483
00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:10.559
<v Speaker 6>back after these messages.

484
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:17.319
<v Speaker 4>It means something very different. I guess if you looked

485
00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:20.119
<v Speaker 4>at it from a spiritual viewpoint. When I say spiritual

486
00:30:20.279 --> 00:30:26.440
<v Speaker 4>non corporeal viewpoint, I guess offering has some part of

487
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:32.480
<v Speaker 4>a person's divinity attached to the offering, whereas the gifting

488
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:34.319
<v Speaker 4>is a physical barter.

489
00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:37.440
<v Speaker 3>I definitely get that. That makes a lot of sense

490
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:41.720
<v Speaker 3>to me. When you send the email about this interview

491
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:43.880
<v Speaker 3>what you wanted to share. I was looking over it

492
00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:48.680
<v Speaker 3>while you were talking. It's clear that your interactions with

493
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:52.799
<v Speaker 3>these creatures has progressed over the last ten years. You

494
00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:57.240
<v Speaker 3>were very specific about your interactions recently seem to have changed.

495
00:30:57.319 --> 00:31:00.319
<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about some of the more recent interactions that

496
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.039
<v Speaker 3>you've had with these creatures and how that changed over

497
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:03.960
<v Speaker 3>the last decade.

498
00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:08.200
<v Speaker 4>Okay, it was a very profound moment for me quite recently.

499
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:11.519
<v Speaker 4>I wanted to share this with people because it really

500
00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:16.359
<v Speaker 4>touches upon the nature of I want to say something succinct,

501
00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:19.359
<v Speaker 4>but I don't have a distinct word at this moment.

502
00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:23.319
<v Speaker 4>It really touches upon a person's place in the universe,

503
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:27.640
<v Speaker 4>as it truly is. What I mean by that is

504
00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:34.200
<v Speaker 4>I recently had come to understand that there is no

505
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:39.079
<v Speaker 4>separation between any being. Now a lot of people say, oh, yeah,

506
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:44.200
<v Speaker 4>everything is one, and that's a great thought, but understanding

507
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:49.079
<v Speaker 4>that you not only have a connection to everything, but

508
00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:55.240
<v Speaker 4>actually experiencing your oneness with all things as a real connection.

509
00:31:56.440 --> 00:31:59.680
<v Speaker 4>That while I may not be a tree, I share

510
00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:05.880
<v Speaker 4>something of a one identity with that tree. I may

511
00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:09.799
<v Speaker 4>not be a river, but there is something of a

512
00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:13.960
<v Speaker 4>one nature that I share with that river. As I

513
00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:18.599
<v Speaker 4>progress upon my own spiritual tradition and continue to interact

514
00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:23.640
<v Speaker 4>with the Bigfoot, I recently have deepened my sense of

515
00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:26.559
<v Speaker 4>my actual connection to all beings.

516
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:29.279
<v Speaker 5>Now does that last all day?

517
00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:29.720
<v Speaker 6>No?

518
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:32.400
<v Speaker 4>Put me back on the highway and somebody cuts me off.

519
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:33.079
<v Speaker 5>And it's gone.

520
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:35.519
<v Speaker 4>But it's quite easy when you're in the forest and

521
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:39.599
<v Speaker 4>everything's calm and peaceful. What happened It was no longer

522
00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:43.759
<v Speaker 4>me calling the Bigfoot, and they showed up. Recently, my

523
00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:49.000
<v Speaker 4>interactions with them have transformed into almost as though it's

524
00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:54.039
<v Speaker 4>one prayer that I and the Bigfoot are doing one prayer.

525
00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:58.440
<v Speaker 4>To cut to the chase, I did experience a psychic

526
00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:02.079
<v Speaker 4>understanding of a Bigfoot. I would be doing a prayer,

527
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:06.279
<v Speaker 4>and then the Bigfoot would be doing a prayer right afterwards,

528
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:11.759
<v Speaker 4>and this went on for four hours. Somewhere along those

529
00:33:11.880 --> 00:33:16.240
<v Speaker 4>four hours, I understood what this being was saying. And

530
00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:19.880
<v Speaker 4>what I came to understand has so totally in a

531
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:23.279
<v Speaker 4>relaxed way, in a very gentle way, helped me to

532
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:27.759
<v Speaker 4>understand many things about nature and what this being was

533
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:34.960
<v Speaker 4>saying with his chant which sounded like a Sufi caveman championment,

534
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:37.960
<v Speaker 4>and he was doing it over and over for four hours.

535
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:40.680
<v Speaker 4>After a while, I knew what this being was saying,

536
00:33:41.559 --> 00:33:45.279
<v Speaker 4>and it was holy. Holy is the oneness of all beings.

537
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:49.880
<v Speaker 4>The more that this being and I would exchange these chants,

538
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:55.599
<v Speaker 4>the more I understood they exist as one with all things.

539
00:33:56.480 --> 00:34:00.000
<v Speaker 4>Most humans are not one with all beings or reality,

540
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:04.480
<v Speaker 4>and it seems that if people want to interact with them,

541
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:08.440
<v Speaker 4>it's not that you have to achieve something, it's that

542
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:12.400
<v Speaker 4>you just have to lose everything that takes you away

543
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:15.719
<v Speaker 4>from the oneness of all beings. I know what I'm

544
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:20.800
<v Speaker 4>saying sounds truly that it sounds new, agy anybody who

545
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:23.639
<v Speaker 4>knows me knows I'm agree. I don't hang around with

546
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:29.559
<v Speaker 4>those stereotypical crowd that might fit those statements. Everybody is

547
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:34.280
<v Speaker 4>to some degree aware that you are a part of

548
00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:37.800
<v Speaker 4>all things. Now, what I want to get out to

549
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:43.159
<v Speaker 4>people is that many Native Americans say, when you ask

550
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:45.880
<v Speaker 4>them what is Bigfoot? They're part spirit sometimes and then

551
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:49.840
<v Speaker 4>they're part physical. What would the world look like to you?

552
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:53.000
<v Speaker 4>When I'm talking to anybody in the audience, what would

553
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:56.280
<v Speaker 4>the world look like to you if you could shift

554
00:34:56.360 --> 00:35:01.760
<v Speaker 4>from your physical body to an energy body, or imagine

555
00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:05.679
<v Speaker 4>you could go from something physical to something energetic. How

556
00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:11.559
<v Speaker 4>would you view the world? How would you view civilization if, say,

557
00:35:11.639 --> 00:35:13.920
<v Speaker 4>like you could just be energy and be a part

558
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:17.400
<v Speaker 4>of your environment. If you were just energy, would you

559
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:20.159
<v Speaker 4>want to be in a city if you were just energy?

560
00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:21.719
<v Speaker 4>I don't know how many hours in the day they

561
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:25.239
<v Speaker 4>are If you were energy, what would your culture be

562
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:27.800
<v Speaker 4>like if you were energy twelve hours of the day,

563
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:34.159
<v Speaker 4>what would personal cultivation look like? Personal betterment? You really

564
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:39.320
<v Speaker 4>would have an understanding of how you relate to all

565
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:44.000
<v Speaker 4>nature and your environment. It's an old thing in all

566
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:48.320
<v Speaker 4>cultures that the body hide you from the spirit. So

567
00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:53.039
<v Speaker 4>really I wanted to put succinctly for people how to

568
00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:57.480
<v Speaker 4>truly commune with Bigfoot. Focus your mind, go through some

569
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:03.639
<v Speaker 4>sort of purification, develop your virtues, try to become one

570
00:36:03.719 --> 00:36:08.519
<v Speaker 4>with nature, and then finally try to realize that part

571
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:11.480
<v Speaker 4>of your divine nature that is one with all beings.

572
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:15.039
<v Speaker 4>And I know that sounds simple, but it's not. For

573
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:19.320
<v Speaker 4>most people above the age of six. That's really hard

574
00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:21.719
<v Speaker 4>to do. Brian, That really is the gist of what

575
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:24.239
<v Speaker 4>I have to say. I have many stories I could

576
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:25.239
<v Speaker 4>add to this, and.

577
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:28.920
<v Speaker 3>I get it. It's definitely something different from me. Because

578
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:31.599
<v Speaker 3>what tends to happen when people are into the subject.

579
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:34.159
<v Speaker 3>You plant your flag in one of two camps. Right,

580
00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:37.719
<v Speaker 3>you're either a flesh and blood scientific approach to this,

581
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:42.960
<v Speaker 3>or there is a more metaphysical approach to the subject.

582
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:47.320
<v Speaker 3>People call that wound high strangeness. This would certainly be

583
00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:50.360
<v Speaker 3>in that camp for most people that are going to

584
00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:53.039
<v Speaker 3>listen to this. Yeah, it's difficult for a lot of

585
00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:57.480
<v Speaker 3>people to wrap their brain around this approach. Let me

586
00:36:57.559 --> 00:37:00.960
<v Speaker 3>ask you this, when it comes down to the shaman

587
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:03.880
<v Speaker 3>that you learned from and your approach to I don't

588
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:06.159
<v Speaker 3>ask very many people who come on the show what

589
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:10.480
<v Speaker 3>they think these creatures are. That is clearly subjective. There's

590
00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:16.639
<v Speaker 3>the gigantic fithecus, camp austrella, pithesene, possible relic, tomanoid, hamanan,

591
00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:21.719
<v Speaker 3>something that's left over from our bushy family tree. It

592
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:25.519
<v Speaker 3>definitely sounds like that's something different. When you're talking about

593
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:29.440
<v Speaker 3>these things being able to be physical and spiritual, where

594
00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:33.440
<v Speaker 3>are you on this spectrum of Maybe it's a better

595
00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:36.360
<v Speaker 3>question to ask, where are these creatures on the spectrum

596
00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:39.280
<v Speaker 3>for you? Are they a flesh and blood thing for you?

597
00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:44.400
<v Speaker 3>Are they a physical spiritual thing? Are they something in between?

598
00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:47.599
<v Speaker 3>When it comes to your interactions, where are you on

599
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:50.119
<v Speaker 3>this journey of Bigfoot?

600
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:51.480
<v Speaker 5>Where are they?

601
00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:53.719
<v Speaker 3>Where do they come from? Do you think they are

602
00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:55.760
<v Speaker 3>something that's spiritual and physical?

603
00:37:56.400 --> 00:37:58.800
<v Speaker 4>I've been racking that question over in my head for

604
00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:01.519
<v Speaker 4>a couple of days on how to really approach the

605
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:05.280
<v Speaker 4>All I can say is I'll approach it badly. That's

606
00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:08.480
<v Speaker 4>the honest truth. I remember one time I left out

607
00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:11.519
<v Speaker 4>an offering and it was a big one. I had

608
00:38:11.719 --> 00:38:15.119
<v Speaker 4>all the ingredients. I made it extra juicy, it was

609
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:18.599
<v Speaker 4>extra straw. It was just the right time of year,

610
00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:20.679
<v Speaker 4>and it was a good one. I started to feel

611
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:22.400
<v Speaker 4>intense spiritual pressure.

612
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:26.280
<v Speaker 5>Even on a good day. It is a lot just

613
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:26.920
<v Speaker 5>to see one.

614
00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:30.719
<v Speaker 4>I'm about twenty five feet away from the offering all

615
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:35.519
<v Speaker 4>of a sudden, too bigfoot. These were besides the Hulk,

616
00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:39.280
<v Speaker 4>these were seriously big ones. They were going at it

617
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:41.519
<v Speaker 4>the way two brothers might go at it over the

618
00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:45.639
<v Speaker 4>last bit of ice cream. They were roaring at each other,

619
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:47.719
<v Speaker 4>they were snarling.

620
00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:48.840
<v Speaker 5>It founded like.

621
00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:52.800
<v Speaker 4>Five bulls and five lions were all going at it,

622
00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:56.519
<v Speaker 4>and it was definitely the most violent thing I've ever seen.

623
00:38:57.039 --> 00:39:00.840
<v Speaker 4>The ground was rumbling, and these were illed beings.

624
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:01.599
<v Speaker 5>That was intense.

625
00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:06.800
<v Speaker 4>So I think that they are wild beings with what

626
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:11.360
<v Speaker 4>I would say is above most human intelligence, who have

627
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:17.159
<v Speaker 4>some sort of semi divine capacity. I'm not saying that

628
00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:21.800
<v Speaker 4>they're divine beings. I'm saying that they are born with

629
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:27.320
<v Speaker 4>those skills that most spiritual traditions say humans can achieve

630
00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:31.440
<v Speaker 4>with long years of practice. If they are just physical,

631
00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:38.039
<v Speaker 4>they are more tactically capable than our very best military

632
00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:43.119
<v Speaker 4>trained trackers and soldiers, unless you believe that the military

633
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:46.119
<v Speaker 4>is tracking them down and catching them, which I don't

634
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:49.559
<v Speaker 4>believe whatsoever, unless the military are skills that I don't

635
00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:52.719
<v Speaker 4>know of. So it is confronting even to me to

636
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:57.559
<v Speaker 4>think that, say, some animal might have a spiritual capacity.

637
00:39:58.239 --> 00:39:59.840
<v Speaker 4>And I'm not saying the Big for their animals, but

638
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.480
<v Speaker 4>like say a fox or something might have a spiritual

639
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:07.960
<v Speaker 4>capacity that exceeds my own in some queue or some

640
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:11.719
<v Speaker 4>section of spiritual capacity. I personally think that the Big

641
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<v Speaker 4>Four are a type of human that is mixed with

642
00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:17.760
<v Speaker 4>something else I don't know what. That is, a wild

643
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:21.280
<v Speaker 4>being that can do things and is born with the

644
00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:26.320
<v Speaker 4>ability to do things that only the mythological spiritual adepts

645
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:30.840
<v Speaker 4>in most traditions can do. There's been stories of Christian

646
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:36.320
<v Speaker 4>Catholic saints having bylocation of levitation. There's been Buddhist and

647
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:40.199
<v Speaker 4>Daoist priests who can supposedly do amazing things, Islamic saints

648
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:43.800
<v Speaker 4>who could walk through walls, but it's all myth as

649
00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:46.760
<v Speaker 4>far as humans are concerned, But I think that the

650
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:51.760
<v Speaker 4>Bigfoot are born with those skills, whereas humans have to

651
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:52.840
<v Speaker 4>work very hard to get them.

652
00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:53.880
<v Speaker 3>What are they?

653
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:56.880
<v Speaker 4>When I've seen them face to face and looked at them,

654
00:40:57.360 --> 00:40:59.840
<v Speaker 4>I get the sense that they're people just like you

655
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:00.480
<v Speaker 4>and I are.

656
00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:02.719
<v Speaker 5>Do they look like people?

657
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:05.960
<v Speaker 4>No, But when I look in their face, I feel

658
00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:08.639
<v Speaker 4>like that connection that I would have with not anybody,

659
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:12.639
<v Speaker 4>but I feel like I'm looking at something that has

660
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:16.000
<v Speaker 4>the same light that I see in people.

661
00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:18.559
<v Speaker 5>That there's just that knowing that recognition.

662
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:22.400
<v Speaker 4>I would have the same trepidation of hurting a human

663
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:25.199
<v Speaker 4>child as I would a bigfoot. I see the same thing.

664
00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:27.360
<v Speaker 3>So what are they to me?

665
00:41:27.480 --> 00:41:30.320
<v Speaker 4>They're just a different tribe of people who are doing

666
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:32.800
<v Speaker 4>something different. I don't know if I'm right or not,

667
00:41:33.480 --> 00:41:36.840
<v Speaker 4>but I see them and I see the same connection

668
00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:40.960
<v Speaker 4>that happens when you truly connect with another person, Sames,

669
00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:43.840
<v Speaker 4>I've never interacted with other types of beings before. I

670
00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:47.039
<v Speaker 4>don't know if that's across all levels of beings of

671
00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:48.280
<v Speaker 4>a certain level, I don't know.

672
00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:50.199
<v Speaker 5>I was just trained with bigfoot.

673
00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:52.800
<v Speaker 3>I've said this when people come on and it's not

674
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:56.719
<v Speaker 3>you're straightforward. I'm a hunter in and a tree stand.

675
00:41:56.800 --> 00:41:59.159
<v Speaker 3>Seeing one of these things walk across the field in

676
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:01.519
<v Speaker 3>front of you from one hund yards away. There are

677
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:03.360
<v Speaker 3>going to be people who listen to this and go,

678
00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:05.440
<v Speaker 3>this guy is batshit crazy.

679
00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:08.519
<v Speaker 5>I love seeing those polymlons. Yeah, it is far.

680
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:12.559
<v Speaker 3>Beyond what most people experience when it comes to these beings.

681
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:15.920
<v Speaker 3>I guess the last word here would be twofold. How

682
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:18.679
<v Speaker 3>would you address that when people say, Oh, this guy's

683
00:42:18.719 --> 00:42:21.280
<v Speaker 3>full of shit, this is not real, this is way

684
00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:24.920
<v Speaker 3>far outside of my realm of understanding. This guy's got

685
00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:28.079
<v Speaker 3>to be crazy. What's going to happen when people hear this?

686
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:32.079
<v Speaker 3>And how do you want to respond to that proactively?

687
00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Then?

688
00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:35.960
<v Speaker 3>I guess the second part of that would be what's

689
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:40.039
<v Speaker 3>the last word you want people to understand about these

690
00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:44.679
<v Speaker 3>creatures from your perspective and your interactions with them. If

691
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:48.000
<v Speaker 3>they listen to this and maybe feel differently and say,

692
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:50.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm willing to give that a chance, or give that

693
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:53.440
<v Speaker 3>a try to at least try to connect with them

694
00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:57.199
<v Speaker 3>on the same level that you have in some capacity.

695
00:42:57.719 --> 00:42:59.079
<v Speaker 3>What are you going to say to those people who

696
00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:01.480
<v Speaker 3>say this guy's bad crazy? And what do you want

697
00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:04.320
<v Speaker 3>to be the last word on these things and your

698
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:07.920
<v Speaker 3>interactions with the creatures that you hope people understand from

699
00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:10.000
<v Speaker 3>what you shared here with us today.

700
00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:13.400
<v Speaker 4>There's one video I'm on where it got up there

701
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:16.199
<v Speaker 4>in the numbers and the couple hundred thousands, and I

702
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:19.400
<v Speaker 4>got to see a lot of the your best share

703
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:22.880
<v Speaker 4>crazy comments. I don't expect people to believe me. Why

704
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:26.559
<v Speaker 4>would anyone? It does seem out there. But what am

705
00:43:26.599 --> 00:43:30.320
<v Speaker 4>I asking people to do? Train your mind, get a

706
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:35.760
<v Speaker 4>little cleaner, do good things, learn to be one with

707
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:41.440
<v Speaker 4>your environment, and that maybe through those processes something special

708
00:43:41.639 --> 00:43:46.440
<v Speaker 4>opens up and you can do something different by being simple,

709
00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:50.960
<v Speaker 4>but actually training to be simple. I don't know what

710
00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:55.599
<v Speaker 4>about that sounds crazy. Everybody knows that there's a magic

711
00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:59.480
<v Speaker 4>to life. An effort isn't getting most people to it.

712
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:04.599
<v Speaker 4>It's by accepting what you really are that the real

713
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:08.800
<v Speaker 4>magic comes out. There's nothing that is off balanced, that

714
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:13.480
<v Speaker 4>is not true for every human being, that would in

715
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:17.239
<v Speaker 4>any way hurt anyone. There isn't any part of that

716
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:19.599
<v Speaker 4>process that would hurt anybody.

717
00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:22.559
<v Speaker 5>You know. The reason you develop your virtue.

718
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:25.800
<v Speaker 4>Is because it is a muscle and it changes your

719
00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:29.719
<v Speaker 4>energy and it changes you and it helps you to

720
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:36.360
<v Speaker 4>vibrate with resonate on the frequency of what nature is doing.

721
00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:41.400
<v Speaker 4>There's a goodness to existence that's not crazy. There isn't

722
00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:45.039
<v Speaker 4>one spiritual tradition in the universe on this planet that

723
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:47.760
<v Speaker 4>doesn't say that there's a basic goodness to live it.

724
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:51.280
<v Speaker 4>If you want to think I'm crazy, okay, I'm not

725
00:44:51.400 --> 00:44:54.519
<v Speaker 4>going to argue with you. But nothing man, I'm saying

726
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:59.199
<v Speaker 4>or suggesting is actually crazy. It's actually pretty grounded.

727
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:03.039
<v Speaker 6>Stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to sea. We'll be

728
00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:04.880
<v Speaker 6>right back after these messages.

729
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<v Speaker 4>If I understand the second question, which is what would

730
00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:15.039
<v Speaker 4>I say the last word would be about these beings.

731
00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:19.599
<v Speaker 4>If what I'm saying is true, that these beings are

732
00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:25.199
<v Speaker 4>a part of nature, these huge, super powerful forest beings.

733
00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:28.440
<v Speaker 4>Some people have said they've seen nine to ten footers,

734
00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:33.159
<v Speaker 4>super massive muscles, then Brian, I don't really have a

735
00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:34.960
<v Speaker 4>last word on it. What I want to say is

736
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:37.440
<v Speaker 4>we have the capacity to do everything that they have.

737
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:39.440
<v Speaker 4>That doesn't really make sense, Brian.

738
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:42.840
<v Speaker 3>I totally get it, man, that is fair. I appreciate

739
00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:46.039
<v Speaker 3>you at least trying to articulate it. I know it's

740
00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:53.480
<v Speaker 3>not easy to share just straightforward, quote unquote common experiences

741
00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:56.079
<v Speaker 3>with these things. I battle with people all the time

742
00:45:56.159 --> 00:45:58.599
<v Speaker 3>that reach out to me that have a roadside crossing

743
00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:01.960
<v Speaker 3>that last two seconds, and they don't want to share

744
00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:05.400
<v Speaker 3>it because they're so afraid that they're going to be

745
00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:09.719
<v Speaker 3>judged rightfully, so upset about the fact that people are

746
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:10.960
<v Speaker 3>going to think that they're crazy.

747
00:46:11.039 --> 00:46:14.480
<v Speaker 5>So I totally get the fact that you've had.

748
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:20.039
<v Speaker 3>Certainly what I would consider far different experiences than just

749
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:24.400
<v Speaker 3>your average run of the meal roadside crossing or Hey,

750
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:26.199
<v Speaker 3>I was out in the woods hiking and this thing

751
00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:29.199
<v Speaker 3>crossed across the trail in front of me. So I

752
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:32.760
<v Speaker 3>know it takes a certain person to come forward and

753
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:35.840
<v Speaker 3>share any of these kind of experiences. So to all

754
00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:38.000
<v Speaker 3>the tens of thousands of people that are going to

755
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:41.159
<v Speaker 3>listen to this on the show, I just say listen

756
00:46:41.480 --> 00:46:45.239
<v Speaker 3>and keep an open mind and understand how difficult it

757
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:48.639
<v Speaker 3>is for anybody who has any kind of experience with

758
00:46:48.760 --> 00:46:52.639
<v Speaker 3>these creatures to come forward and share it, especially when

759
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:54.159
<v Speaker 3>it's not your run of the meal.

760
00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:56.840
<v Speaker 4>But if you actually listen to a lot of the

761
00:46:56.920 --> 00:47:01.679
<v Speaker 4>Native Americans who talk about interact with the Bigfoot, it's

762
00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:06.039
<v Speaker 4>usually during ceremony. I've had Native Americans find me. People

763
00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:08.760
<v Speaker 4>have found me and Native Americans have found me and

764
00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:10.039
<v Speaker 4>they said, how did you learn all this?

765
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:11.000
<v Speaker 5>This is what we do.

766
00:47:11.599 --> 00:47:15.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm not inventing something in doing the same thing that

767
00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:19.239
<v Speaker 4>the Native Americans are doing. They do a ritual, they

768
00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:22.199
<v Speaker 4>offer I think it was corn, it was water, and

769
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:25.199
<v Speaker 4>it might have been flour or bread or something I forget.

770
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:28.039
<v Speaker 4>They told me their offerings and then they do songs.

771
00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:32.159
<v Speaker 4>They play songs and then they do dances as offerings.

772
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:35.000
<v Speaker 4>Native Americans told me the Bigfoot come out and they

773
00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:38.079
<v Speaker 4>sing and they dance, and then they go back. There

774
00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:41.239
<v Speaker 4>was an understanding that there was an interaction and a

775
00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:45.360
<v Speaker 4>sameness between the Native Americans and the Bigfoot. There's so

776
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:49.639
<v Speaker 4>many Bigfoot adventurers who are going deep into the woods.

777
00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:53.400
<v Speaker 4>They're sitting up trail cans and they're doing all this stuff.

778
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:56.119
<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, hey, look at the people who are

779
00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:57.400
<v Speaker 4>claiming success.

780
00:47:58.400 --> 00:47:59.639
<v Speaker 5>Walk down the road.

781
00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:02.679
<v Speaker 4>That's all I already travel. If you talk to a

782
00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:05.559
<v Speaker 4>Native American and they say you have to do this

783
00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:09.880
<v Speaker 4>dance for three months, that's what those Native Americans did

784
00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:12.480
<v Speaker 4>to get to the level where they could interact with

785
00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:17.880
<v Speaker 4>those beings. Don't assume that the process that people tell

786
00:48:17.960 --> 00:48:21.559
<v Speaker 4>you to go through to interact with Bigfoot is going

787
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:23.840
<v Speaker 4>to leave you the same person you are when you

788
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:27.639
<v Speaker 4>started it. It's an easy thing to say that these

789
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:32.320
<v Speaker 4>people who go through a process to achieve these interactions

790
00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:36.079
<v Speaker 4>are crazy, but you yourself have not even attempted to

791
00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:39.079
<v Speaker 4>go through that same process. I don't know what it's

792
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:41.920
<v Speaker 4>like to practice twelve hours a day an instrument and

793
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:46.480
<v Speaker 4>become great at it. Those people are in super mental space,

794
00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:51.880
<v Speaker 4>super focus. They're clearly doing something that is superhuman.

795
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:53.159
<v Speaker 5>I can't do it.

796
00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:55.559
<v Speaker 4>I don't have what it takes to sit there with

797
00:48:55.639 --> 00:48:58.320
<v Speaker 4>a violin for twelve hours, So I can't say that

798
00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:02.920
<v Speaker 4>violinist process is wrong, that their batshit crazy.

799
00:49:03.639 --> 00:49:04.159
<v Speaker 3>There is.

800
00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:10.800
<v Speaker 4>Ways to develop human consciousness. Every culture has. Then it's

801
00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:15.039
<v Speaker 4>not like those people throughout all time and history are insane.

802
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:21.760
<v Speaker 4>There is yogic practices that develop that cleanse, that enliven

803
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:25.840
<v Speaker 4>the consciousness. Every culture has one. Most cultures seem to

804
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:29.599
<v Speaker 4>have Bigfoot stories too. Maybe there's a correlation. It's very

805
00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:33.760
<v Speaker 4>simple once you put some effort. I don't want fame.

806
00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:36.599
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to be known as the Bigfoot guy,

807
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:41.519
<v Speaker 4>but I do want people all beings in nature. So

808
00:49:41.559 --> 00:49:44.760
<v Speaker 4>if you have along if you think hurting the environment

809
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:49.079
<v Speaker 4>is something you can do and not suffer personally. There's

810
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:52.480
<v Speaker 4>a massive self violence that happens when you don't see

811
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:55.840
<v Speaker 4>the connection between you and nature, and it goes very deep.

812
00:49:56.440 --> 00:50:00.960
<v Speaker 4>But if you undergo these processes of focusing the in, purification,

813
00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:05.920
<v Speaker 4>developing virtue, allowing a love for nature, you cannot do

814
00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:08.079
<v Speaker 4>those things and you will see that there is a

815
00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:12.760
<v Speaker 4>connection between all beings. I have many experiences of bigfoots

816
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:15.400
<v Speaker 4>trying to scare me. I have a lot of the

817
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:18.840
<v Speaker 4>typical experiences that a lot of people talk about. You know,

818
00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:21.639
<v Speaker 4>that was early on when I was not really knowing

819
00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:24.840
<v Speaker 4>what I was doing. But now the real amazing thing,

820
00:50:25.199 --> 00:50:27.639
<v Speaker 4>after I've been doing it all this time, is that

821
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:31.000
<v Speaker 4>they've shown me a deeper level of connection that I

822
00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:33.639
<v Speaker 4>can share with the person behind the seven to eleven counter.

823
00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:35.639
<v Speaker 4>There is a oneness to all things.

824
00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:36.039
<v Speaker 5>I know.

825
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:40.159
<v Speaker 3>That's not like a typical bigfoot podcast, no, but it's

826
00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:43.199
<v Speaker 3>great because even though you weren't thinking that you had

827
00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:45.480
<v Speaker 3>the last word, I think that is the last word.

828
00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:49.480
<v Speaker 3>That's the perfect way to end this is. I think

829
00:50:49.559 --> 00:50:52.400
<v Speaker 3>that is something that everybody can strive for. Whether it

830
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:54.760
<v Speaker 3>has anything to do with bigfoot or not. I think

831
00:50:54.840 --> 00:50:57.280
<v Speaker 3>that's a perfect way to end it, and I really

832
00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:01.159
<v Speaker 3>appreciate you coming on and sharing your experiences. I know

833
00:51:01.239 --> 00:51:03.920
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people won't get it, but I think, honestly,

834
00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:06.639
<v Speaker 3>that is the point. I think that I have become

835
00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:09.400
<v Speaker 3>more open over the last four or five years of

836
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:13.920
<v Speaker 3>doing this than I was five years ago to other

837
00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:17.760
<v Speaker 3>people's experiences and learning from all of it. It's all

838
00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:20.480
<v Speaker 3>data that goes into the hopper and we pull it out.

839
00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:22.280
<v Speaker 3>We take from it what we want. I say it

840
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:23.920
<v Speaker 3>all the time on the show. Take what you want,

841
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:27.000
<v Speaker 3>leave the rest. If somebody gets something from this that

842
00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:31.079
<v Speaker 3>they might not have gotten otherwise, I think that's very important.

843
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:34.119
<v Speaker 3>I appreciate you coming on and sharing your experiences with us.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you for letting me talk about it. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 4>thank you very much. It was very nice meeting you.

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<v Speaker 7>They say you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want.

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<v Speaker 7>Outside steps, step.

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<v Speaker 2>Trying this chart, that chart everything, calling ride right.

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<v Speaker 5>Back, joy for me, joy, staying right.

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<v Speaker 2>You call it right away and still stay sayst not DOSSSSTSSTS,

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<v Speaker 2>things USSS
