Speaker 1: Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
Speaker 1: on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog,
Speaker 1: my dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it did it, Okay, damn, I'm
Speaker 1: really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
Speaker 1: the fence and he was dead. And once you hit
Speaker 1: the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I
Speaker 1: saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat what
Speaker 1: are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling
Speaker 1: around out here? Did you see what it was?
Speaker 2: Or was it was?
Speaker 1: Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now
Speaker 1: and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside.
Speaker 1: Jesus quice, you better hello, hit the body out here
Speaker 1: when I'm out there. I thought of a bit of
Speaker 1: about text nine. I don't know easy, I'm out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the book and right, hey, all right, folks, own
Speaker 3: to welcome our guest to the show, who shall remain anonymous.
Speaker 3: But we will start in the same place I start
Speaker 3: with everybody who comes on the show. What got you
Speaker 3: interested in the subject of bigfoot sasquatch?
Speaker 4: To begin with, My first memory of sasquatch was in
Speaker 4: the second grade. There was a book in my library
Speaker 4: in elementary school. And I still remember that I saw
Speaker 4: the book from across the room and I didn't even
Speaker 4: know it was about and I was just drawn to
Speaker 4: this book and I opened it. I knew I was
Speaker 4: involved with something that wasn't like my cartoons. Something just
Speaker 4: made me gravitate towards this book and I read it.
Speaker 4: I had this feeling, even at such a young age,
Speaker 4: that there was something not normal about this subject, and
Speaker 4: not normal about this subject in relationship to me, even
Speaker 4: at such a young age. Really, that is my first memory.
Speaker 4: My second experience. I was seventeen on the last exit
Speaker 4: before Bear Mountain, New York, Bear Mountain Resort, which is
Speaker 4: about an hour north of New York City.
Speaker 5: This was in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 4: I was with my girlfriend at the time. It was
Speaker 4: close to dusk, were going through a walk in the
Speaker 4: woods by Lake teer Rod. All of a sudden, we
Speaker 4: saw what today everyone's saying, the telltale shimmer of predator.
Speaker 4: But we saw the air was just warbling. There were
Speaker 4: a bunch of deer by who weren't running away from us,
Speaker 4: They were just staring at the air. Me and my
Speaker 4: girlfriend were just looking at this not knowing what we
Speaker 4: were seeing. All of a sudden, this roar came out
Speaker 4: of nowhere. It vibrated our bones. I didn't really know
Speaker 4: much about Bigfoot at the time. I was very interested
Speaker 4: in the subject as a kid, but I knew at
Speaker 4: that moment somehow there was a Bigfoot right there. I
Speaker 4: guess it was about three years later, in the early nineties,
Speaker 4: right after The X Files was coming out, I saw
Speaker 4: this special about Bigfoot. I saw people going deep into
Speaker 4: the woods trying to look for Bigfoot. And on the
Speaker 4: same episode they had some Native American shaman who said
Speaker 4: that he was interacting with Bigfoot. I believed him. At
Speaker 4: that young age, at that very stupid young age, whatever
Speaker 4: I was, came up with a brilliant at least in
Speaker 4: my mind, a brilliant play, which was everybody who goes
Speaker 4: into the woods trying to find Bigfoot seems to not
Speaker 4: find Bigfoot. I didn't think my skills in the woods
Speaker 4: were anything. I could walk a few miles into the
Speaker 4: woods and come out, but I knew I was gonna
Speaker 4: be like.
Speaker 5: Some of these trackers.
Speaker 4: I was never going to be like some of these
Speaker 4: military trained people who could go and find people. It
Speaker 4: seemed like a lot of work. So I came up
Speaker 4: with a plan. At this young age, I realized that
Speaker 4: there were people all over the world from some tradition
Speaker 4: that they had learned from their ancestors. They claimed to
Speaker 4: have been taught how to interact with Bigfoot. I thought
Speaker 4: it would be a lot easier to get a human
Speaker 4: who claimed to know how to interact with Bigfoot to
Speaker 4: teach me how to interact with Bigfoot. Then it would
Speaker 4: be to get Bigfoot to interact with me. So I
Speaker 4: made up the plan that I would try to find
Speaker 4: with these people for the next twenty years. I annoyed,
Speaker 4: literally annoyed. Anybody would do cold calls. I would call
Speaker 4: Native American reservations. When the Internet started, they might have
Speaker 4: one number.
Speaker 5: I would call and.
Speaker 4: Ask if thinking buddy knew how to interact with Bigfoot,
Speaker 4: and would they teach me. After twenty years of getting rejected,
Speaker 4: one person said yes, that was a shaman from Nepal
Speaker 4: who was passing through my area. That person taught me
Speaker 4: how to interact with Bickfoot from the very first time
Speaker 4: they came out of the woods, and they still continue
Speaker 4: to come out to me.
Speaker 5: That is the short story of how it all happened.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about these interactions that you've had with these creatures.
Speaker 3: Let's start from the very beginning. Once you got this
Speaker 3: training from the shaman. What kind of interactions were you
Speaker 3: having and have you had.
Speaker 6: Over the years with these creatures.
Speaker 4: The very first time I was with my girlfriend who
Speaker 4: is now my wife. We went out from my friend's
Speaker 4: house who lives by the Alleghany Mountains. We went out
Speaker 4: in the woods at dusk. There's a certain location in
Speaker 4: the woods that is conducive to interacting with Bigfoot. There's
Speaker 4: a certain set of body language that is conducive interacting
Speaker 4: with them. There's a very specific offering, not gift offering.
Speaker 4: There's a little bit of a difference, at least in
Speaker 4: my definition and what I was taught. We tout the
Speaker 4: offering down and walked away a bit, sat down on
Speaker 4: a tree where we could see it, and we started
Speaker 4: to hear rustling. To make a very long story short,
Speaker 4: an older sasquatch appeared right in front of us with
Speaker 4: what looked like either his daughter or his wife. I
Speaker 4: never found out. A very young sasquatch was standing between them,
Speaker 4: and he was probably about three and a half feet
Speaker 4: and to our left, there was a little hill. To
Speaker 4: our right there was like a flat area, and then
Speaker 4: we could see three very massive bigfoot to our left
Speaker 4: and we could hear two of them stomping around to
Speaker 4: our right. There probably was some behind us. That was
Speaker 4: my very first experience. It was an overwhelmingly peaceful energy.
Speaker 4: That would be my main takeaway from that experience was
Speaker 4: that the methods that I learned, they come to me.
Speaker 5: It's exceedingly peaceful.
Speaker 4: Everything I have to say from what I understand of
Speaker 4: the Sasquatch world and language, it's going to start at
Speaker 4: wu and then take off in a way that I'm
Speaker 4: not going to try to justify. This is what I've learned,
Speaker 4: and this is what happens. Since that experience. Since that
Speaker 4: very first time, I have personally physically seen over one hundred.
Speaker 5: And ten individuals. I've lost count.
Speaker 4: The counting I have is one hundred and ten physical
Speaker 4: sightings of Bigfoot, all of them within thirty feet. I've
Speaker 4: had one physical interaction. I was at a Native American reservation.
Speaker 4: There's ten of them near me and I have a
Speaker 4: couple of friends. I interacted with the Bigfoot on their
Speaker 4: land with his family.
Speaker 5: Right there.
Speaker 4: I built up the nerve to actually bring or dures
Speaker 4: moores actually on a platter to one of them. They
Speaker 4: didn't take it, but a female saucequatch petty to me.
Speaker 4: It was pretty dark. What I remember most was her
Speaker 4: armpit hair, because when she petted me, her hand reached
Speaker 4: out way further than I ever thought an arm good
Speaker 4: light tap on my head, but it buckled my knees.
Speaker 4: And I consider myself a bigger man. I'm about six
Speaker 4: foot two twenty worked out most of my life.
Speaker 5: That light touch just buckled my knees.
Speaker 4: I have seen Bigfoot in Western New York Bighampton area, Kentucky,
Speaker 4: in the Adirondacks, Vancouver area. That was a big one.
Speaker 4: That was the biggest one ever. That's when twenty Bigfoot
Speaker 4: came out at the base of Mount Chean. That was
Speaker 4: a very big place.
Speaker 5: That was one place.
Speaker 4: Where I actually was starting to engage with I guess
Speaker 4: you could say Bigfoot spirituality. They actually gave me a
Speaker 4: teaching which we could get into later. I've been doing
Speaker 4: this now for almost ten years, had so many experiences
Speaker 4: with them that it'd be hard to go through all
Speaker 4: of them. Recently, my experience with them has deepened to
Speaker 4: such a degree that wanted to talk about it, and
Speaker 4: thank you for letting me talk about it in the show.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, before we get into the most recent experiences, you
Speaker 3: said Vancouver was big, let's eventually get there. Let's go
Speaker 3: maybe two or three experiences before Vancouver that if stuck
Speaker 3: out to you over the last ten years. Walk us
Speaker 3: through where you were, what you were doing, and tell
Speaker 3: us what happened during those experiences. And let's get into
Speaker 3: the Vancouver experience and then go through the most recent.
Speaker 4: I guess the worm that sticks out right now happen
Speaker 4: in the Adirondecks by Oxbow Lake, which is a small
Speaker 4: little lake in the Adirondecks. I was renting a cabin there.
Speaker 4: I was doing a sort of personal retreat. I had
Speaker 4: left out the offering when I got there. That engaged
Speaker 4: for about two three days on a personal retreat. Nothing happened.
Speaker 4: But when I was done and I had closed down
Speaker 4: the retreat, all of a sudden, I was serenaded, and
Speaker 4: that's the right word, serenaded by a handclapping song. There
Speaker 4: was a bigfoot I would say about twenty five feet
Speaker 4: in the woods. It was up on a rocky ledge,
Speaker 4: so there was definitely a barrier between me and them.
Speaker 4: They were up on the ledge. They were clapping out
Speaker 4: a song with a melody, with a cadence that I
Speaker 4: had never heard in any human song. It was beautiful.
Speaker 4: It was not a rhythm I have any relationship too,
Speaker 4: but it was beautiful. I did understand that that it
Speaker 4: was beautiful. What I remember now, because it's hard to
Speaker 4: remember the exact tempo. It was so loud that I
Speaker 4: could feel the quality of his hands the way the
Speaker 4: sound came across it would have had to have been.
Speaker 4: Not that I could see his hands, and not that
Speaker 4: I could see the bigfoot. Clearly, they tend to have
Speaker 4: some sort of covering. They usually never fully come out
Speaker 4: in the open. They usually have some sort of cover.
Speaker 4: I just remember that the feeling of the sound was
Speaker 4: so powerful that I could almost hear the type of
Speaker 4: hands that this bigfoot had. I had the sense that
Speaker 4: it was a man. I had the sense that his
Speaker 4: palms were really thick. It was all based off the sound.
Speaker 4: It seemed to be a sign of respect. The only
Speaker 4: thing I can relate it to is I've seen cross
Speaker 4: cultural dances between Native Americans. That is as close as
Speaker 4: I could explain that one. It probably went on for
Speaker 4: fifteen minutes, then it stopped, then it started up again
Speaker 4: for another five minutes. There was just this finality to it,
Speaker 4: and we went our separate ways. That one really stands
Speaker 4: out to me because I had the sense of a
Speaker 4: mutual respect of religiosity between that being and what I
Speaker 4: was doing. Up until quite recently, there was a normal
Speaker 4: cadence to almost all my interactions. I would call them
Speaker 4: through the methods I had learned, they would show up.
Speaker 4: Now when they're showing up, I can feel them coming
Speaker 4: long before.
Speaker 5: They show up.
Speaker 4: Their energy is so powerful that wherever I am, the
Speaker 4: pressure in the area just starts to increase. It's almost
Speaker 4: like the calm before a storm. The more the pressure increases,
Speaker 4: it seemed like they're getting closer, and then they start
Speaker 4: showing up. They always seem to understand how I can
Speaker 4: see them. What I mean is they understand how the
Speaker 4: shadows in my indirect environment relate to my eyesight. So
Speaker 4: they always seem to blend into the shadows around me perfectly,
Speaker 4: so that they have complete anonymity if they want to.
Speaker 4: It seems like I only ever see them when they
Speaker 4: want me to see them. But the way that they
Speaker 4: understand the relationship of my eyesight to the shadows around me.
Speaker 4: It's exactly like they are a part of nature. The light,
Speaker 4: the shadows, the rustling of the trees. They just are
Speaker 4: a part of it. Then what usually happens is I
Speaker 4: try to communicate with them, and I get the sense
Speaker 4: that they think I'm dumb because I can't understand what
Speaker 4: they are doing with me, which is a sort of pressure,
Speaker 4: a sort of feeling that I get that they're trying
Speaker 4: to communicate with me. Then try to get them to
Speaker 4: come out closer, which only happened a few times, but
Speaker 4: this is always within thirty feet. Twenty thirty minutes may
Speaker 4: go by, and then I just start feeling rude because
Speaker 4: I get the feeling most of the time that I'm
Speaker 4: holding them up, you know what I'm saying. It's been
Speaker 4: like that for quite a few years. Where I would call,
Speaker 4: they might sometimes just show up, say nothing, go away.
Speaker 4: A lot of times they'll just walk around in the
Speaker 4: tree line. Very few times have just been nothing. I
Speaker 4: would say, of the one hundred and eighty two hundred
Speaker 4: times I've reached out to them, maybe like ten nothing's happened.
Speaker 4: Usually some one or two show up, or they just
Speaker 4: howl from way out in the distance, let me know
Speaker 4: that at least they've heard me. But it's been ten
Speaker 4: years of many different phases of interacting with them.
Speaker 6: Tune for more sasquatch otasy well be right back after
Speaker 6: these messages.
Speaker 4: There was a one phase where it was really crazy,
Speaker 4: where I'd be in my friend's house. We'd just be
Speaker 4: camping out in his yard, having a bonfire. Everybody would
Speaker 4: go to sleep, but I would just walk in the
Speaker 4: woods because I knew they were there at this point.
Speaker 4: I can feel their energy coming from the woods, and
Speaker 4: they'd be all around me at two in the morning,
Speaker 4: in the middle of the woods, maybe forty feet off
Speaker 4: the main road, down a dirt road. I'd be terrified
Speaker 4: because they're so huge. I'm just six feet. One of
Speaker 4: these big guys could just pick me up with one hand.
Speaker 4: I'd never be seen again. But they always seemed playful,
Speaker 4: like they were just messing with a kid, brother or something.
Speaker 4: A couple of them like to what I think would
Speaker 4: be punk me out, But it always seemed like at
Speaker 4: the end that it was just in good fun. Sometimes
Speaker 4: I would go out and do my spiritual practices out
Speaker 4: in the woods. That's where very interesting events really took place.
Speaker 4: I would go out, I would do practices that transmit
Speaker 4: benevolence to beings. During those events, those interactions, that's when
Speaker 4: they would send back to me their version of goodwill,
Speaker 4: which it's all overpowering that it's hard to be around,
Speaker 4: just to physically withstand the level of their energy. There
Speaker 4: was one Bigfoot in particular, who I could only describe
Speaker 4: from my knowing what I would guess would be like
Speaker 4: a Bigfoot saint. Because there was this one valley where
Speaker 4: I would go, I would call and do my spiritual
Speaker 4: practices of benevolence towards them. Could feel this guy coming
Speaker 4: from way deep in the valley, and it was like
Speaker 4: the valley was being filled with peace and good will
Speaker 4: to such a degree that it was hard to be
Speaker 4: even in my own skin because their energy was so powerful.
Speaker 4: So when I went to visit a friend in Vancouver,
Speaker 4: we were camping at a place called Cheam Fishing Village.
Speaker 4: We were camping there for a week. Our campsite was
Speaker 4: right at the river and across the river was Mount Chein.
Speaker 4: All week, I swore I was communicating with some Bigfoot
Speaker 4: at the top of the mountain. It was like I
Speaker 4: was in psychic communication with them. But I'm not a
Speaker 4: big psychic guy. I'm not really into that. But every
Speaker 4: time I would sit down and just look at this mountain,
Speaker 4: I swore that they were.
Speaker 5: Communicating with me.
Speaker 4: Towards the end of the week, I confided in my
Speaker 4: friends that, hey, I do this, and they were like,
Speaker 4: the guy, I'm like, no, I really do this. I
Speaker 4: really do interact with the Sasquatch. I'd be hey, I
Speaker 4: learned it from the shaman from Nepal. Here's the whole story.
Speaker 4: And they're like and so it's like, hey, look, I'll
Speaker 4: get the materials.
Speaker 5: We'll go across.
Speaker 4: There was like a dried out riverbed to our right,
Speaker 4: and then on the far end of the dried out riverbed,
Speaker 4: there's this island there. If you look up Cheamfishing Village
Speaker 4: on Google Maps, you can see what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: There was a dried out riverbed usually gets with two
Speaker 4: or three feet of water, but right now you could
Speaker 4: totally walk over to this island.
Speaker 5: So we walk over to the island and.
Speaker 4: I put out it was like dusk, and I put
Speaker 4: out the offerings and there was like this massive tree
Speaker 4: that we were sitting on. That was a bit i'd say,
Speaker 4: like fifty feet from the offerings. Then all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: about five minutes later, we heard the sound of wings.
Speaker 4: We didn't see the bird. We just heard the rustling
Speaker 4: of wings from a bird that sounded larger than anything
Speaker 4: we could ever imagine. I imagine like a six foot
Speaker 4: bird was somehow in there, but I never saw, and
Speaker 4: neither did my friends. And all of a sudden in
Speaker 4: the tree line there was one bigfoot, two bigfoot, three bigfoots,
Speaker 4: And then we lost count. Somewhere around eighteen or nineteen
Speaker 4: we could see them at the base of these trees.
Speaker 4: That was the first time I felt, in the moments afterwards,
Speaker 4: that I was in deep communion with a bigfoot. I
Speaker 4: received what would be called a transmission. Now what a
Speaker 4: transmission is it's in many different spiritual cultures, is when
Speaker 4: spiritual energy is lodged into your spine as a data
Speaker 4: encoding of information, which basically allows you to practice whatever
Speaker 4: spiritual practice you're receiving it from. So safe as Sufi
Speaker 4: Master gave you a transmission, you'd be able to practice
Speaker 4: that supie practice. If an Islamic teacher of Islamic mysticism,
Speaker 4: trans or do something you'd be able to do. Islam
Speaker 4: I practice as tradition that does this. I knew I
Speaker 4: was getting a transmission. The gist of this practice is understanding.
Speaker 4: It's like an avatar of a Bigfoot is standing on
Speaker 4: a mountain that is all mountains, and you learn to
Speaker 4: transmit the goodness of all things to all beings. In short,
Speaker 4: that's what I learned from their perspective that it's also
Speaker 4: another thing that I use to interact with Bigfoot. I
Speaker 4: get a little emotional talking about it. It was a
Speaker 4: very beautiful experience. That's some of the more memorable ones.
Speaker 3: Let's go back and lay a little bit of foundation.
Speaker 3: You mentioned the shaman that trained you in these techniques
Speaker 3: to interact.
Speaker 5: With these creatures. Let's talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 3: Tell the folk that are listening what that entails, how
Speaker 3: that training came about, and what the shaman shared with
Speaker 3: you to allow you to communicate with these beings.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm a part of a spiritual lineage. It doesn't
Speaker 4: really matter which one I'm in. The important part of
Speaker 4: the spiritual lineage is that, like many spiritual lineages, you
Speaker 4: have to go through a series of steps to understand
Speaker 4: the later things. The later practices. The first couple of
Speaker 4: steps are arguably all the same. Focus the mind and
Speaker 4: learn to focus the mind, go through some sort of
Speaker 4: spiritual cleansing, develop your morals and your virtue. Then stabilize
Speaker 4: in the basics. What I learned from the shaman was
Speaker 4: based on having the foundations pretty much down. I had
Speaker 4: been a part of a spiritual lineage. I had those basics,
Speaker 4: so when the shaman taught me what he taught me,
Speaker 4: I was able to use those skills quite easily.
Speaker 5: With the shaman taught me was based upon.
Speaker 4: A Nepalese man whose main practice was caring for all
Speaker 4: the bigfoot. A lot of people specialize in things, and
Speaker 4: this particular individual specialized in caring for them, and he
Speaker 4: had set up protocols on how to interact with them.
Speaker 4: That became the basis of human and bigfoot interactions throughout
Speaker 4: most of Tibet, Nepal, India. I just got the book
Speaker 4: about two years ago. There is actually a book that
Speaker 4: is even a later version of the Teachings of Interactions
Speaker 4: with Bigfoot eighteen hundred pages. And then you have to
Speaker 4: do all this stuff that looks like quite a bit
Speaker 4: of work, and I haven't even barely engaged that. This
Speaker 4: particular man in Nepal wrote that book. The basic protocols
Speaker 4: of interacting with them is what the Nepalese shaman taught me.
Speaker 4: He was actually from the Nowari region of Nepal. The
Speaker 4: basics of that is that you connect with the earth
Speaker 4: in a certain way. You offer these offerings that you
Speaker 4: imbibe with tremendous amounts of goodwill. Now it is a
Speaker 4: very specific offering that takes a couple of days to make.
Speaker 4: Then you learn to focus your mind, and if you've
Speaker 4: learned to parmonize with the earth, you then request.
Speaker 5: That they come out.
Speaker 4: And that is basically it. Now, I know that sounds
Speaker 4: really basic. Many people have asked me to show them
Speaker 4: how to interact with bigfoot. In the last eight or
Speaker 4: nine years I've been talking about it. Only one has
Speaker 4: actually done what I told them to do. That person
Speaker 4: actually has a small Bigfoot channel. They're doing quite well.
Speaker 4: Apparently he tells me they come out and he has
Speaker 4: some of the stimilar experiences that I do. People have
Speaker 4: asked me how do you interact with them? Here's step one.
Speaker 4: Look at a candle for an hour a day for
Speaker 4: three months. Step two, find some sort of spiritual cleansing
Speaker 4: practice that works on your physical body, your energy body,
Speaker 4: and your spirit body. It doesn't matter what tradition. Then
Speaker 4: step three, try to develop goodwill towards all things. At
Speaker 4: the same time you're doing this, learn to harmonize with nature.
Speaker 4: People ask me what is harmonize with nature? Be of
Speaker 4: clean mind and body that you have worked towards. Go
Speaker 4: into the woods and listen to the wind. Go into
Speaker 4: the woods, listen to the water, because wind and water
Speaker 4: are the language of nature. Feel yourself becoming one with
Speaker 4: the forest, with the earth, and just let it happen.
Speaker 4: And I'm not trying to say go out there and
Speaker 4: get all koung fui and mystical. I was saying, go
Speaker 4: in the woods, listen, and just like you would with
Speaker 4: any good friends, have a good time, and be relaxed
Speaker 4: and be grounded, and not really try to achieve some
Speaker 4: great mystical state, but just be present like you would
Speaker 4: with any friends. If you were just relaxing, then reach
Speaker 4: out to the Bigfoot. That's the basics of what I
Speaker 4: was taught. Are there more details?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 4: Is the offering that I use very specific to calling
Speaker 4: the Bigfoot. Yes, but that is something my teacher has said,
Speaker 4: don't share that. But it doesn't really matter, because this
Speaker 4: one gentleman who listened to me doesn't know the offering,
Speaker 4: doesn't know the details of what my teacher taught me.
Speaker 4: He didn't even do all the teps that I just
Speaker 4: outlined here, but he did a bunch of them and
Speaker 4: he's having phenomenal results.
Speaker 3: Let's talk a little bit about the different in gifting
Speaker 3: versus this offering that you're talking about. At least for me,
Speaker 3: gifting is something that I wasn't really into when I
Speaker 3: got into this. I am more of a flesh and
Speaker 3: blood kind of researcher. That's where I come from when
Speaker 3: I approach this research and interacting with these creatures. I've
Speaker 3: had three encounters last summer where I get to see
Speaker 3: these things and interact with them. It was a very
Speaker 3: physical interaction with me, So I am more of a scientific,
Speaker 3: flesh and blood kind of god. It appears that you're
Speaker 3: not going to get into what this offering is. But
Speaker 3: at least for the audience that's listening and for my benefit,
Speaker 3: let's talk a little bit about the difference in a
Speaker 3: gifting situation leaving these things marbles or apples versus what
Speaker 3: you're talking about as far as an offering is concerned,
Speaker 3: can you at least talk a little bit about that
Speaker 3: before we get into some of your more recent interactions
Speaker 3: with these things.
Speaker 4: So the question is, what is the difference between gifting
Speaker 4: and offerings? Okay, gifting is where you take some thing
Speaker 4: and you leave it out for the bigfoot. An offering
Speaker 4: is where you take something and imbue it with positivity,
Speaker 4: of your own energy, of your own imagining, and of
Speaker 4: your own labor. The best example I have is when
Speaker 4: Christians and Catholics light a candle to say, like the
Speaker 4: Mother Mary, they light a candle, that lit candle. At
Speaker 4: that point it could be either an offering or what
Speaker 4: we're talking about here is gifting that lick candle. Then
Speaker 4: you could do a prayer and fill that light that
Speaker 4: candle is emitting with the prayers for the benefiting of
Speaker 4: all beings, for world peace, for prayer for a loved one.
Speaker 4: But you can take your energy, your spiritual energy, your thoughts,
Speaker 4: all of your positivity and put it into that candle.
Speaker 4: When you enliven an object with positivity of any sort
Speaker 4: from any tradition that transforms any physical object into something different.
Speaker 4: And here's the really important part that gifting doesn't do.
Speaker 4: It's just by your intention transmit everything you have put
Speaker 4: into that offering into the spirit realm. It doesn't have
Speaker 4: to be anything. It could just be something as simple
Speaker 4: as saying amen. It could be something like a step
Speaker 4: of the fingers. It doesn't have to be much, and
Speaker 4: it doesn't have to be elaborate. Gifting is where you
Speaker 4: just take an object and it's like a barter system.
Speaker 4: An offering shows your intent. It also shows your spiritual capacity.
Speaker 4: It allows your gifting object to be transformed into the
Speaker 4: level of imagination, visualization, spiritual power that you are capable.
Speaker 4: So you could turn a little cookie into a vast
Speaker 4: ocean of goodness. And now that may not mean much
Speaker 4: to most humans, but to beings that are sometimes spiritual,
Speaker 4: like the Bigfoot are that means all the difference. It
Speaker 4: shows your quality of character because anytime you put your
Speaker 4: energy into something, it's your signature moment. It tells spiritual
Speaker 4: beings everything about you. I would call it gifting bartering
Speaker 4: in a way. An offering is a complete expression of
Speaker 4: everything you are attached to. Some object that could be limitless,
Speaker 4: that could transmit that goodwill for the rest of your life.
Speaker 4: If you just left, Saydak, something that's permanent, like a
Speaker 4: little figurine of something nice, and you prayed over it
Speaker 4: or put goodwill into it for months and then left
Speaker 4: it out, that figurine might transmit all of your good
Speaker 4: will for the rest of your life, even if you
Speaker 4: never see it again. That does something very different.
Speaker 6: Stay tuned for more sasquatch out Toesy, we'll be right
Speaker 6: back after these messages.
Speaker 4: It means something very different. I guess if you looked
Speaker 4: at it from a spiritual viewpoint. When I say spiritual
Speaker 4: non corporeal viewpoint, I guess offering has some part of
Speaker 4: a person's divinity attached to the offering, whereas the gifting
Speaker 4: is a physical barter.
Speaker 3: I definitely get that. That makes a lot of sense
Speaker 3: to me. When you send the email about this interview
Speaker 3: what you wanted to share. I was looking over it
Speaker 3: while you were talking. It's clear that your interactions with
Speaker 3: these creatures has progressed over the last ten years. You
Speaker 3: were very specific about your interactions recently seem to have changed.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about some of the more recent interactions that
Speaker 3: you've had with these creatures and how that changed over
Speaker 3: the last decade.
Speaker 4: Okay, it was a very profound moment for me quite recently.
Speaker 4: I wanted to share this with people because it really
Speaker 4: touches upon the nature of I want to say something succinct,
Speaker 4: but I don't have a distinct word at this moment.
Speaker 4: It really touches upon a person's place in the universe,
Speaker 4: as it truly is. What I mean by that is
Speaker 4: I recently had come to understand that there is no
Speaker 4: separation between any being. Now a lot of people say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: everything is one, and that's a great thought, but understanding
Speaker 4: that you not only have a connection to everything, but
Speaker 4: actually experiencing your oneness with all things as a real connection.
Speaker 4: That while I may not be a tree, I share
Speaker 4: something of a one identity with that tree. I may
Speaker 4: not be a river, but there is something of a
Speaker 4: one nature that I share with that river. As I
Speaker 4: progress upon my own spiritual tradition and continue to interact
Speaker 4: with the Bigfoot, I recently have deepened my sense of
Speaker 4: my actual connection to all beings.
Speaker 5: Now does that last all day?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 4: Put me back on the highway and somebody cuts me off.
Speaker 5: And it's gone.
Speaker 4: But it's quite easy when you're in the forest and
Speaker 4: everything's calm and peaceful. What happened It was no longer
Speaker 4: me calling the Bigfoot, and they showed up. Recently, my
Speaker 4: interactions with them have transformed into almost as though it's
Speaker 4: one prayer that I and the Bigfoot are doing one prayer.
Speaker 4: To cut to the chase, I did experience a psychic
Speaker 4: understanding of a Bigfoot. I would be doing a prayer,
Speaker 4: and then the Bigfoot would be doing a prayer right afterwards,
Speaker 4: and this went on for four hours. Somewhere along those
Speaker 4: four hours, I understood what this being was saying. And
Speaker 4: what I came to understand has so totally in a
Speaker 4: relaxed way, in a very gentle way, helped me to
Speaker 4: understand many things about nature and what this being was
Speaker 4: saying with his chant which sounded like a Sufi caveman championment,
Speaker 4: and he was doing it over and over for four hours.
Speaker 4: After a while, I knew what this being was saying,
Speaker 4: and it was holy. Holy is the oneness of all beings.
Speaker 4: The more that this being and I would exchange these chants,
Speaker 4: the more I understood they exist as one with all things.
Speaker 4: Most humans are not one with all beings or reality,
Speaker 4: and it seems that if people want to interact with them,
Speaker 4: it's not that you have to achieve something, it's that
Speaker 4: you just have to lose everything that takes you away
Speaker 4: from the oneness of all beings. I know what I'm
Speaker 4: saying sounds truly that it sounds new, agy anybody who
Speaker 4: knows me knows I'm agree. I don't hang around with
Speaker 4: those stereotypical crowd that might fit those statements. Everybody is
Speaker 4: to some degree aware that you are a part of
Speaker 4: all things. Now, what I want to get out to
Speaker 4: people is that many Native Americans say, when you ask
Speaker 4: them what is Bigfoot? They're part spirit sometimes and then
Speaker 4: they're part physical. What would the world look like to you?
Speaker 4: When I'm talking to anybody in the audience, what would
Speaker 4: the world look like to you if you could shift
Speaker 4: from your physical body to an energy body, or imagine
Speaker 4: you could go from something physical to something energetic. How
Speaker 4: would you view the world? How would you view civilization if, say,
Speaker 4: like you could just be energy and be a part
Speaker 4: of your environment. If you were just energy, would you
Speaker 4: want to be in a city if you were just energy?
Speaker 4: I don't know how many hours in the day they
Speaker 4: are If you were energy, what would your culture be
Speaker 4: like if you were energy twelve hours of the day,
Speaker 4: what would personal cultivation look like? Personal betterment? You really
Speaker 4: would have an understanding of how you relate to all
Speaker 4: nature and your environment. It's an old thing in all
Speaker 4: cultures that the body hide you from the spirit. So
Speaker 4: really I wanted to put succinctly for people how to
Speaker 4: truly commune with Bigfoot. Focus your mind, go through some
Speaker 4: sort of purification, develop your virtues, try to become one
Speaker 4: with nature, and then finally try to realize that part
Speaker 4: of your divine nature that is one with all beings.
Speaker 4: And I know that sounds simple, but it's not. For
Speaker 4: most people above the age of six. That's really hard
Speaker 4: to do. Brian, That really is the gist of what
Speaker 4: I have to say. I have many stories I could
Speaker 4: add to this, and.
Speaker 3: I get it. It's definitely something different from me. Because
Speaker 3: what tends to happen when people are into the subject.
Speaker 3: You plant your flag in one of two camps. Right,
Speaker 3: you're either a flesh and blood scientific approach to this,
Speaker 3: or there is a more metaphysical approach to the subject.
Speaker 3: People call that wound high strangeness. This would certainly be
Speaker 3: in that camp for most people that are going to
Speaker 3: listen to this. Yeah, it's difficult for a lot of
Speaker 3: people to wrap their brain around this approach. Let me
Speaker 3: ask you this, when it comes down to the shaman
Speaker 3: that you learned from and your approach to I don't
Speaker 3: ask very many people who come on the show what
Speaker 3: they think these creatures are. That is clearly subjective. There's
Speaker 3: the gigantic fithecus, camp austrella, pithesene, possible relic, tomanoid, hamanan,
Speaker 3: something that's left over from our bushy family tree. It
Speaker 3: definitely sounds like that's something different. When you're talking about
Speaker 3: these things being able to be physical and spiritual, where
Speaker 3: are you on this spectrum of Maybe it's a better
Speaker 3: question to ask, where are these creatures on the spectrum
Speaker 3: for you? Are they a flesh and blood thing for you?
Speaker 3: Are they a physical spiritual thing? Are they something in between?
Speaker 3: When it comes to your interactions, where are you on
Speaker 3: this journey of Bigfoot?
Speaker 5: Where are they?
Speaker 3: Where do they come from? Do you think they are
Speaker 3: something that's spiritual and physical?
Speaker 4: I've been racking that question over in my head for
Speaker 4: a couple of days on how to really approach the
Speaker 4: All I can say is I'll approach it badly. That's
Speaker 4: the honest truth. I remember one time I left out
Speaker 4: an offering and it was a big one. I had
Speaker 4: all the ingredients. I made it extra juicy, it was
Speaker 4: extra straw. It was just the right time of year,
Speaker 4: and it was a good one. I started to feel
Speaker 4: intense spiritual pressure.
Speaker 5: Even on a good day. It is a lot just
Speaker 5: to see one.
Speaker 4: I'm about twenty five feet away from the offering all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, too bigfoot. These were besides the Hulk,
Speaker 4: these were seriously big ones. They were going at it
Speaker 4: the way two brothers might go at it over the
Speaker 4: last bit of ice cream. They were roaring at each other,
Speaker 4: they were snarling.
Speaker 5: It founded like.
Speaker 4: Five bulls and five lions were all going at it,
Speaker 4: and it was definitely the most violent thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 4: The ground was rumbling, and these were illed beings.
Speaker 5: That was intense.
Speaker 4: So I think that they are wild beings with what
Speaker 4: I would say is above most human intelligence, who have
Speaker 4: some sort of semi divine capacity. I'm not saying that
Speaker 4: they're divine beings. I'm saying that they are born with
Speaker 4: those skills that most spiritual traditions say humans can achieve
Speaker 4: with long years of practice. If they are just physical,
Speaker 4: they are more tactically capable than our very best military
Speaker 4: trained trackers and soldiers, unless you believe that the military
Speaker 4: is tracking them down and catching them, which I don't
Speaker 4: believe whatsoever, unless the military are skills that I don't
Speaker 4: know of. So it is confronting even to me to
Speaker 4: think that, say, some animal might have a spiritual capacity.
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying the Big for their animals, but
Speaker 4: like say a fox or something might have a spiritual
Speaker 4: capacity that exceeds my own in some queue or some
Speaker 4: section of spiritual capacity. I personally think that the Big
Speaker 4: Four are a type of human that is mixed with
Speaker 4: something else I don't know what. That is, a wild
Speaker 4: being that can do things and is born with the
Speaker 4: ability to do things that only the mythological spiritual adepts
Speaker 4: in most traditions can do. There's been stories of Christian
Speaker 4: Catholic saints having bylocation of levitation. There's been Buddhist and
Speaker 4: Daoist priests who can supposedly do amazing things, Islamic saints
Speaker 4: who could walk through walls, but it's all myth as
Speaker 4: far as humans are concerned, But I think that the
Speaker 4: Bigfoot are born with those skills, whereas humans have to
Speaker 4: work very hard to get them.
Speaker 3: What are they?
Speaker 4: When I've seen them face to face and looked at them,
Speaker 4: I get the sense that they're people just like you
Speaker 4: and I are.
Speaker 5: Do they look like people?
Speaker 4: No, But when I look in their face, I feel
Speaker 4: like that connection that I would have with not anybody,
Speaker 4: but I feel like I'm looking at something that has
Speaker 4: the same light that I see in people.
Speaker 5: That there's just that knowing that recognition.
Speaker 4: I would have the same trepidation of hurting a human
Speaker 4: child as I would a bigfoot. I see the same thing.
Speaker 3: So what are they to me?
Speaker 4: They're just a different tribe of people who are doing
Speaker 4: something different. I don't know if I'm right or not,
Speaker 4: but I see them and I see the same connection
Speaker 4: that happens when you truly connect with another person, Sames,
Speaker 4: I've never interacted with other types of beings before. I
Speaker 4: don't know if that's across all levels of beings of
Speaker 4: a certain level, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I was just trained with bigfoot.
Speaker 3: I've said this when people come on and it's not
Speaker 3: you're straightforward. I'm a hunter in and a tree stand.
Speaker 3: Seeing one of these things walk across the field in
Speaker 3: front of you from one hund yards away. There are
Speaker 3: going to be people who listen to this and go,
Speaker 3: this guy is batshit crazy.
Speaker 5: I love seeing those polymlons. Yeah, it is far.
Speaker 3: Beyond what most people experience when it comes to these beings.
Speaker 3: I guess the last word here would be twofold. How
Speaker 3: would you address that when people say, Oh, this guy's
Speaker 3: full of shit, this is not real, this is way
Speaker 3: far outside of my realm of understanding. This guy's got
Speaker 3: to be crazy. What's going to happen when people hear this?
Speaker 3: And how do you want to respond to that proactively?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 3: I guess the second part of that would be what's
Speaker 3: the last word you want people to understand about these
Speaker 3: creatures from your perspective and your interactions with them. If
Speaker 3: they listen to this and maybe feel differently and say,
Speaker 3: I'm willing to give that a chance, or give that
Speaker 3: a try to at least try to connect with them
Speaker 3: on the same level that you have in some capacity.
Speaker 3: What are you going to say to those people who
Speaker 3: say this guy's bad crazy? And what do you want
Speaker 3: to be the last word on these things and your
Speaker 3: interactions with the creatures that you hope people understand from
Speaker 3: what you shared here with us today.
Speaker 4: There's one video I'm on where it got up there
Speaker 4: in the numbers and the couple hundred thousands, and I
Speaker 4: got to see a lot of the your best share
Speaker 4: crazy comments. I don't expect people to believe me. Why
Speaker 4: would anyone? It does seem out there. But what am
Speaker 4: I asking people to do? Train your mind, get a
Speaker 4: little cleaner, do good things, learn to be one with
Speaker 4: your environment, and that maybe through those processes something special
Speaker 4: opens up and you can do something different by being simple,
Speaker 4: but actually training to be simple. I don't know what
Speaker 4: about that sounds crazy. Everybody knows that there's a magic
Speaker 4: to life. An effort isn't getting most people to it.
Speaker 4: It's by accepting what you really are that the real
Speaker 4: magic comes out. There's nothing that is off balanced, that
Speaker 4: is not true for every human being, that would in
Speaker 4: any way hurt anyone. There isn't any part of that
Speaker 4: process that would hurt anybody.
Speaker 5: You know. The reason you develop your virtue.
Speaker 4: Is because it is a muscle and it changes your
Speaker 4: energy and it changes you and it helps you to
Speaker 4: vibrate with resonate on the frequency of what nature is doing.
Speaker 4: There's a goodness to existence that's not crazy. There isn't
Speaker 4: one spiritual tradition in the universe on this planet that
Speaker 4: doesn't say that there's a basic goodness to live it.
Speaker 4: If you want to think I'm crazy, okay, I'm not
Speaker 4: going to argue with you. But nothing man, I'm saying
Speaker 4: or suggesting is actually crazy. It's actually pretty grounded.
Speaker 6: Stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to sea. We'll be
Speaker 6: right back after these messages.
Speaker 4: If I understand the second question, which is what would
Speaker 4: I say the last word would be about these beings.
Speaker 4: If what I'm saying is true, that these beings are
Speaker 4: a part of nature, these huge, super powerful forest beings.
Speaker 4: Some people have said they've seen nine to ten footers,
Speaker 4: super massive muscles, then Brian, I don't really have a
Speaker 4: last word on it. What I want to say is
Speaker 4: we have the capacity to do everything that they have.
Speaker 4: That doesn't really make sense, Brian.
Speaker 3: I totally get it, man, that is fair. I appreciate
Speaker 3: you at least trying to articulate it. I know it's
Speaker 3: not easy to share just straightforward, quote unquote common experiences
Speaker 3: with these things. I battle with people all the time
Speaker 3: that reach out to me that have a roadside crossing
Speaker 3: that last two seconds, and they don't want to share
Speaker 3: it because they're so afraid that they're going to be
Speaker 3: judged rightfully, so upset about the fact that people are
Speaker 3: going to think that they're crazy.
Speaker 5: So I totally get the fact that you've had.
Speaker 3: Certainly what I would consider far different experiences than just
Speaker 3: your average run of the meal roadside crossing or Hey,
Speaker 3: I was out in the woods hiking and this thing
Speaker 3: crossed across the trail in front of me. So I
Speaker 3: know it takes a certain person to come forward and
Speaker 3: share any of these kind of experiences. So to all
Speaker 3: the tens of thousands of people that are going to
Speaker 3: listen to this on the show, I just say listen
Speaker 3: and keep an open mind and understand how difficult it
Speaker 3: is for anybody who has any kind of experience with
Speaker 3: these creatures to come forward and share it, especially when
Speaker 3: it's not your run of the meal.
Speaker 4: But if you actually listen to a lot of the
Speaker 4: Native Americans who talk about interact with the Bigfoot, it's
Speaker 4: usually during ceremony. I've had Native Americans find me. People
Speaker 4: have found me and Native Americans have found me and
Speaker 4: they said, how did you learn all this?
Speaker 5: This is what we do.
Speaker 4: I'm not inventing something in doing the same thing that
Speaker 4: the Native Americans are doing. They do a ritual, they
Speaker 4: offer I think it was corn, it was water, and
Speaker 4: it might have been flour or bread or something I forget.
Speaker 4: They told me their offerings and then they do songs.
Speaker 4: They play songs and then they do dances as offerings.
Speaker 4: Native Americans told me the Bigfoot come out and they
Speaker 4: sing and they dance, and then they go back. There
Speaker 4: was an understanding that there was an interaction and a
Speaker 4: sameness between the Native Americans and the Bigfoot. There's so
Speaker 4: many Bigfoot adventurers who are going deep into the woods.
Speaker 4: They're sitting up trail cans and they're doing all this stuff.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, hey, look at the people who are
Speaker 4: claiming success.
Speaker 5: Walk down the road.
Speaker 4: That's all I already travel. If you talk to a
Speaker 4: Native American and they say you have to do this
Speaker 4: dance for three months, that's what those Native Americans did
Speaker 4: to get to the level where they could interact with
Speaker 4: those beings. Don't assume that the process that people tell
Speaker 4: you to go through to interact with Bigfoot is going
Speaker 4: to leave you the same person you are when you
Speaker 4: started it. It's an easy thing to say that these
Speaker 4: people who go through a process to achieve these interactions
Speaker 4: are crazy, but you yourself have not even attempted to
Speaker 4: go through that same process. I don't know what it's
Speaker 4: like to practice twelve hours a day an instrument and
Speaker 4: become great at it. Those people are in super mental space,
Speaker 4: super focus. They're clearly doing something that is superhuman.
Speaker 5: I can't do it.
Speaker 4: I don't have what it takes to sit there with
Speaker 4: a violin for twelve hours, So I can't say that
Speaker 4: violinist process is wrong, that their batshit crazy.
Speaker 3: There is.
Speaker 4: Ways to develop human consciousness. Every culture has. Then it's
Speaker 4: not like those people throughout all time and history are insane.
Speaker 4: There is yogic practices that develop that cleanse, that enliven
Speaker 4: the consciousness. Every culture has one. Most cultures seem to
Speaker 4: have Bigfoot stories too. Maybe there's a correlation. It's very
Speaker 4: simple once you put some effort. I don't want fame.
Speaker 4: I don't want to be known as the Bigfoot guy,
Speaker 4: but I do want people all beings in nature. So
Speaker 4: if you have along if you think hurting the environment
Speaker 4: is something you can do and not suffer personally. There's
Speaker 4: a massive self violence that happens when you don't see
Speaker 4: the connection between you and nature, and it goes very deep.
Speaker 4: But if you undergo these processes of focusing the in, purification,
Speaker 4: developing virtue, allowing a love for nature, you cannot do
Speaker 4: those things and you will see that there is a
Speaker 4: connection between all beings. I have many experiences of bigfoots
Speaker 4: trying to scare me. I have a lot of the
Speaker 4: typical experiences that a lot of people talk about. You know,
Speaker 4: that was early on when I was not really knowing
Speaker 4: what I was doing. But now the real amazing thing,
Speaker 4: after I've been doing it all this time, is that
Speaker 4: they've shown me a deeper level of connection that I
Speaker 4: can share with the person behind the seven to eleven counter.
Speaker 4: There is a oneness to all things.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 3: That's not like a typical bigfoot podcast, no, but it's
Speaker 3: great because even though you weren't thinking that you had
Speaker 3: the last word, I think that is the last word.
Speaker 3: That's the perfect way to end this is. I think
Speaker 3: that is something that everybody can strive for. Whether it
Speaker 3: has anything to do with bigfoot or not. I think
Speaker 3: that's a perfect way to end it, and I really
Speaker 3: appreciate you coming on and sharing your experiences. I know
Speaker 3: a lot of people won't get it, but I think, honestly,
Speaker 3: that is the point. I think that I have become
Speaker 3: more open over the last four or five years of
Speaker 3: doing this than I was five years ago to other
Speaker 3: people's experiences and learning from all of it. It's all
Speaker 3: data that goes into the hopper and we pull it out.
Speaker 3: We take from it what we want. I say it
Speaker 3: all the time on the show. Take what you want,
Speaker 3: leave the rest. If somebody gets something from this that
Speaker 3: they might not have gotten otherwise, I think that's very important.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you coming on and sharing your experiences with us.
Speaker 4: Thank you for letting me talk about it. Thank you,
Speaker 4: thank you very much. It was very nice meeting you.
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