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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine hileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>a newer entertainment property, and for this week of December ninth,

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<v Speaker 2>we're discussing the sixth episode of the current season of Shrinking.

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<v Speaker 2>It is called in a Lonely Place, which did give

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<v Speaker 2>us pause last week when we realized that was so

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<v Speaker 2>we get We got a lot of, you know, some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of breakthroughs in this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>We did yes and you know, parenting wise, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a whole thing of Paul and Jimmy reaching out to

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<v Speaker 1>Seawan's dad Tim and sort of approaching them as like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we also fed up as par as fathers, right, so

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel too bad, and sort of brought him around,

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<v Speaker 1>and he went to Seawan and admitted that he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know what to do, so he did a poor job. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it looks like they are going to be mending

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<v Speaker 1>their relationship. So heay, fathers, he just takes two goofballs

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<v Speaker 1>in a canoe to bring bring you around. And Sean

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<v Speaker 1>had as as we at the end of last week's episode,

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<v Speaker 1>had gotten himself beaten up. But I guess the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that he didn't fight back is a step forward, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't really just wanted to get hurt. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>hurt anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they didn't really make much of that, but I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like it was a thing like, yeah, he wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>lashing out, He was inviting.

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<v Speaker 1>Lashing out only at himself, right right. Oh, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we had this funny but yeah right scene of him

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<v Speaker 1>high on drugs greeting the whole rest of the cast.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean to visit him in the in one Big

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<v Speaker 1>Gang and he's like saying dragged out things to each

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<v Speaker 1>of them, including revealing the fact that Alice tried to

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<v Speaker 1>kiss him. Yes, and you know, so that was okay,

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<v Speaker 1>have your fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, it's like a sitcom requirement.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that was very sick. This show is sometimes very

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<v Speaker 1>sitcummy and then sometimes very dramedy ish, and there was

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<v Speaker 1>more of the latter in some of this than I

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<v Speaker 1>would like. I would like Liz and Derek to just

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<v Speaker 1>be the happy, fun married couple who are sort of

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<v Speaker 1>stabily at the middle of this, and that is that

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<v Speaker 1>is going in the wrong direction right at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>So but I do think that they did a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good job of setting up how sometimes I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>would say once I don't know if it's sometimes one

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<v Speaker 1>spouse is hurting but not able to express it in

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<v Speaker 1>the way that the other spouse can understand, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>so they overlook the signals even though I mean, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>show the way you said, had Brian say, sometimes you

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<v Speaker 1>can see people when people are in trouble. It's right

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<v Speaker 1>on their face. Cut a limb right in there with

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<v Speaker 1>their rocks. We get it. You might want to show

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<v Speaker 1>that to Derek, however, right, and how like have I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Derek has been such a fun, happy everything rolls off

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<v Speaker 1>his back sort of character, which is real fun to

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<v Speaker 1>spend time with, but you do start to see how

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<v Speaker 1>maybe if you were married to that person and occasionally

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<v Speaker 1>not in the super fun mood, it might be a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've seen where they were going since with this,

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<v Speaker 1>since last week with Josh Hopkins, and they keep going there,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's I mean, they're setting it up. Well. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I still don't want it, but they're setting it

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<v Speaker 1>up well, Dan, yes, so you know, just look at

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<v Speaker 1>her pictures. Yeah, he's really not interested in the pictures.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Connor is uh I wrote down with Connors say,

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like my kids could say this to

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<v Speaker 1>me sometimes my whole life, You've been up my ass

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<v Speaker 1>and now when I need you, you can't even be there

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<v Speaker 1>for me. But they have never called me a king

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<v Speaker 1>Kong b So I guess I'm still doing okay, oh

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<v Speaker 1>boy parenting.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, then you have Brian who professes to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, be worried about how bad apparent he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be. And he really kind of takes Alice under

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<v Speaker 2>his wing on this one, extremely awkwardly and humorously.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, he.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of does the right thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he really does. He does some good auditioning for

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<v Speaker 1>the role of father. Yeah, in bringing you know, taking

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<v Speaker 1>care of Lewis to some degree the drunk driver, and

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<v Speaker 1>also taking care of Alice and bringing them together and

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<v Speaker 1>what could have been really awkward and awful was really

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<v Speaker 1>very sweet. Yes, really really well done. Because you would

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<v Speaker 1>think this could be really kind of icky of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>forgiveness and all that stuff, but kind of just Brett

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<v Speaker 1>Goldstey is giving such a nice performance of somebody who's

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of accepting all of the responsibility and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make things better and asking questions and not forcing things,

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<v Speaker 1>but just being very sweet. So that was a really

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<v Speaker 1>nice scene in his house. I thought, very good for

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<v Speaker 1>all of them. Bryan is so awkward. He's like he's

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<v Speaker 1>fighting against his instincts to be a goofball and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to be right, like, you know, a responsible parental figure,

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<v Speaker 1>and he does well, but he's radically crawling out of

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<v Speaker 1>the skin to do right. Good luck with that Bardon thing, buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, it doesn't get better from her, No, It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be that way for like twenty one years

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<v Speaker 1>at least.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that whole scene, Like, I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was great that they had Brian you know, being super

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<v Speaker 2>awkward because yes, like how do you know, like how

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<v Speaker 2>does Alice know what to say? How does Lewis know

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<v Speaker 2>what to say? Like it was such a difficult scene

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<v Speaker 2>to write, I'm sure, like yeah, to come up with

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<v Speaker 2>all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and to act to know just how to

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<v Speaker 1>modulate it so that it seems real, right and not

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<v Speaker 1>just a sitcom reprochement.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. And I thought that the Alice actor did extremely

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<v Speaker 2>well too, Like you could just Liskeita Maxwell, I believe

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<v Speaker 2>is Yeah, the changes in her face, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>very yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So able to remember her mom with joy and that

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<v Speaker 1>sadness is kind of sweet. Yeah, and uh and you

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<v Speaker 1>know and Brian helping with that to some degree to

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<v Speaker 1>remembering her too, and you know you forget that it

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<v Speaker 1>was he was good friends with her too, sure, so

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<v Speaker 1>just lovely.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And then we get introduced that Lewis had a partner, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and we don't know what happened to her, and I

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<v Speaker 2>sort of feel like, I don't know, I think you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a picture around if somebody breaks up with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So yeah, I have been watching a hints. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I was being real good for a while, just watching

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<v Speaker 1>what we were watching and then I just one day

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<v Speaker 1>I had some time in my hands and it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw these new episodes to watch them. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>am biting my tongue anyway, but yes, that was I

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<v Speaker 1>had forgotten that that was introduced in this episode. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it does make you wonder, and I agree, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>if it had been a bad breakup, you would not

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<v Speaker 1>have the picture still up right. I was amused by

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that like fatherlike son of Sean's dad was

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<v Speaker 1>very amused every time Paul picked on. They have like

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<v Speaker 1>that same smile, right, and you know, Paul so enjoys

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<v Speaker 1>doing that, so give him that.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we had Gabby kind of, you know, making up

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<v Speaker 2>with her sister and coming to terms with the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that she needs to kind of step up.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was amusing that after she said that that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to step up, and then, you know how,

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<v Speaker 1>I think her sister asked how long do you need?

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<v Speaker 1>And Gabby says twenty years? Twenty years, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>they negotiated to negotiated to three months. But it's still,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my goodness, still such a I mean, she's already

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<v Speaker 1>her life is pretty full, and to take that on

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<v Speaker 1>is difficult to know what to do about it. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously the sister needs to be set free.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a that's a difficult and not fun topic to add.

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<v Speaker 1>Although parenting related certainly, do you do with your parents?

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<v Speaker 1>I personally flew to the other side of the guy

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<v Speaker 1>from mine, loved them, didn't want to deal. But but

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<v Speaker 1>I'd also did help my mother in law in my house,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, but she was she was not my job.

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<v Speaker 1>It was mostly to keep my husband from having to

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<v Speaker 1>drive across town to go help.

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<v Speaker 2>Her, and then she could watch soap operas with your daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right. And also like Mari Povich and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like Yes, I remember my daughter asking me one

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<v Speaker 1>like lunchtime one summer, something about you know, mess a

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<v Speaker 1>messy relationship of some sort, and like, where is this

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<v Speaker 1>coming from? Oh, you're watching those shows with grandma. Oh kay,

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<v Speaker 1>I got ith parenting?

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, well what's next for us?

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<v Speaker 1>There was just just on the parenting, on the parenting topic,

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<v Speaker 1>just one more there was a somebody said, dads are tricky.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't always come through the way you'd like them to,

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<v Speaker 1>but they do eventually, which also of course true with moms.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was also something about somebody being defensive of

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<v Speaker 1>the father was being defensive because I knew you were right,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, yeah, relatable, relatable, definitely for sure. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So next week we'll see what some of the consequences

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<v Speaker 2>are of some of these revelations and discussions.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, we will meetings and there will be funny

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<v Speaker 1>things and there will be not funny things, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is just the show we've got.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. So it's the seventh episode and it's called.

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<v Speaker 1>Get in the C A S E A C.

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<v Speaker 2>But we will see see you back here tomorrow for

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<v Speaker 2>our weekly Roundabout round up.

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