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Speaker 3: It's time for the second episode of the third season
Speaker 3: of Sledging Room Podcast with me Alan and think Shue
Speaker 3: Sorrow was not here. Is not here because he was
Speaker 3: too heavy to you know, turn up and come to
Speaker 3: office on a day. I'm expected the Young India, the
Speaker 3: New India, to do well. In fact, they could have
Speaker 3: done well. They perhaps should have done well, but in
Speaker 3: the end it was a five wicket defeat in the
Speaker 3: first Test of the five match series.
Speaker 1: The Anderson Tentralkod Trophy hasn't started well.
Speaker 3: I just want to dive straight into the topic, Alan Sook,
Speaker 3: is it time for a knee jerk reaction?
Speaker 1: What do you think who should be held accountable? What
Speaker 1: went wrong?
Speaker 4: I think for me, I think the comments that have
Speaker 4: come in, like more or less everybody has been saying,
Speaker 4: oh they've done well, Oh they did this it's a
Speaker 4: young side.
Speaker 1: To be very honest, it's not a young side.
Speaker 4: I think the average age for India's somewhere around twenty
Speaker 4: nine and the average age for England is somewhere around twenty,
Speaker 4: so you are not a young side. For me, I
Speaker 4: feel the whole management has to be held accountable for this,
Speaker 4: the kind of I'm sorry, I'm going on a little
Speaker 4: bit of a rant. Obviously, it's a good performance. I
Speaker 4: think the batters did well. Boomera always stepped up. The batters,
Speaker 4: at least the top five did well. The rest was
Speaker 4: I don't know what happened to them. Bowling wise, it
Speaker 4: was all over the place. And you cannot How can
Speaker 4: a bowler like Prusis Krishna, who has done so well
Speaker 4: in the IPL conceit in both innings more than have
Speaker 4: an economy rate of more than six?
Speaker 1: Have you not? Okay?
Speaker 4: The first innings was a thing that had happened. How
Speaker 4: can you not learn in these second innings the same
Speaker 4: mistakes that you were making. I saw a tweet yesterday
Speaker 4: that basically said he asked schupmern Gil for an extra
Speaker 4: fielder on the off side and then he started bowling
Speaker 4: on the pads.
Speaker 1: How can you be so naive about these kinds of things.
Speaker 4: You're not playing, Okay, you say that you're playing having
Speaker 4: a transition period.
Speaker 1: A couple of defeats will happen. Okay, we can accept it.
Speaker 4: But this is the World Test Championship, something that South
Speaker 4: Africa won, where they were making mistakes, but they ensured
Speaker 4: that it was not repeated in the second half they batted. Well,
Speaker 4: they've wanted it out of their sheer grit. Why is
Speaker 4: it not here? And what is the team management doing?
Speaker 4: Why are you not advising a person.
Speaker 3: By team management, whom are you referring to, I am
Speaker 3: referring to the coaches.
Speaker 4: It's the coaches as well as the players on the field.
Speaker 4: How can you not make reaction, make a decision that Okay,
Speaker 4: I have put a fielder on for the cover drive.
Speaker 1: And now I'll bowl on the stumps. That is baffling.
Speaker 1: That is simply baffling.
Speaker 4: And you cannot expect to win a match when you're
Speaker 4: dropping more than six or seven catches. Yeah, that happens.
Speaker 4: Once it happens, Okay, it is fine. The same guy
Speaker 4: making it three or four times, I think it's a
Speaker 4: lap of laps of concentration. Maybe he's not fully sewn
Speaker 4: in on the field. Tough chances will still give the leeway.
Speaker 4: But eight chances six or I'm not sure how many
Speaker 4: chances that they've dropped to my recollection, I think it's
Speaker 4: more than eight.
Speaker 1: It was around seven eight seven eight.
Speaker 4: That cannot happen in a match you're playing for the
Speaker 4: World Test Championship. You're not playing to be like the
Speaker 4: next England who says that, oh we are looking for
Speaker 4: moral victories. This is not the time for moral victories,
Speaker 4: and you call it knee jerk reaction or whatever. There
Speaker 4: has to be a response in the second Test. That
Speaker 4: is what I would say. Thanksure you, baseball fan. How
Speaker 4: are you feeling today?
Speaker 3: I'm feeling a little irritated, to be honest, because I
Speaker 3: did not like the discourse that followed the Indian England
Speaker 3: as much like say, like you asked the knee jerk reactions?
Speaker 3: Should is it time to take a knee jerk reaction?
Speaker 3: I think the knee jerk reaction has already happened. When
Speaker 3: you brought in SIZEOD at number three, Krona at number six,
Speaker 3: and chart at number seven eight whatever, who else would
Speaker 3: have come explain? Okay, yeah, that's the whole point about right.
Speaker 3: So I think in terms of consistency, if you just
Speaker 3: see in terms of consistency, it is already played extremely
Speaker 3: well in Australia. He was one of our best players
Speaker 3: in a horrenda series. He should have played in England
Speaker 3: because for me, in England, at least in these conditions,
Speaker 3: what we have seen is that you.
Speaker 1: Need five proper bowlers.
Speaker 3: You need five proper bowlers, which essentially means that you
Speaker 3: need a proper batter up top. One can argue that
Speaker 3: is a much better better than Shardultakur. What Chardutagur had
Speaker 3: was experience of playing in India and probably is a
Speaker 3: better bowler than he did not get to ball anyway,
Speaker 3: because Gumbi said that Jadeja provided much better control than
Speaker 3: Shardul in those conditions. So Schumann thought that let's not
Speaker 3: give him the ball. Fine, I I don't have a problem,
Speaker 3: say Sudashan at three brought in directly from IPL I'm
Speaker 3: not discounting his domestic form. But east Horn, the India captain,
Speaker 3: has been carried with the Indian team for three years now.
Speaker 3: If everybody's getting a chance to debut under Gambier, he
Speaker 3: also deserves a chance to get a debut. That's my
Speaker 3: whole point. Karunara at six I have a problem with that.
Speaker 3: I thought Karuna would be playing at three, the perfect
Speaker 3: shield for perhaps Schumann Gill at number four.
Speaker 1: That did not happen. He was brought down at number.
Speaker 3: Six, which a position which I thought was more suited
Speaker 3: to dru Jurel at that position on a flat deck
Speaker 3: in England.
Speaker 1: He did brilliantly in.
Speaker 3: Rachi and Rajkote and Dhramsala, I think against England at home,
Speaker 3: but he was not given a chance. So for me,
Speaker 3: the knee jerk reaction happened when the Test eleven was announced.
Speaker 3: It's time to follow your processes and figure out how
Speaker 3: do we support Boomra, How do we support our top batters.
Speaker 3: Like you mentioned Alan that our batting did very very well,
Speaker 3: our tail messed up.
Speaker 1: How could the tail not have messed up?
Speaker 3: With nititiarity in the bank, I was crunching a couple
Speaker 3: of numbers, so Evehen, I was talking to you actually
Speaker 3: about this that Let's see how many overs did Boomra
Speaker 3: bowl in a five Test match series before his body
Speaker 3: broke down. It was one hundred and fifty one overs
Speaker 3: in Australia, could you guess how many overs he bowled
Speaker 3: in this Test match? Twenty nineteen in the first nix
Speaker 3: if I'm not wrong, twenty five in the first innings,
Speaker 3: then nineteen in the seconds, nearly twenty in the sex,
Speaker 3: So forty five or thirty percent off his load is
Speaker 3: already done and we are first Test match in see.
Speaker 3: That's why they kind of probably told that he's going
Speaker 3: to play only three Tests. And it's no surprise that,
Speaker 3: you know, the pitches in England are going to be
Speaker 3: like this.
Speaker 1: It's not going to be like Australia.
Speaker 3: The very fact that he bore only one fifty overs,
Speaker 3: as you're saying in Australia was because of the pitches.
Speaker 3: The matches were over in three and a half days.
Speaker 3: Nobody lasted more than hundred overs, if I'm not wrong.
Speaker 3: The pitches were, you know, lively, unlike the Benjin dead
Speaker 3: pitches that we are getting to see in England. As in,
Speaker 3: if you want to call this sporting, by all means,
Speaker 3: go and call this sporting. Yes, one team has taken
Speaker 3: twenty wickets. There's no excuse.
Speaker 1: To India, it's a flat tag that you have to search.
Speaker 1: Flat five days. Simple. That's something that's call it what
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's something that England have prioritized in their basstball approach,
Speaker 3: like how the subcontinent teams provide ranked turner stop positions.
Speaker 3: There's no you know, you can't call it. You can't
Speaker 3: call it. You know you can't call it unsporting. You
Speaker 3: can't blame England for this, but for God's sake, don't
Speaker 3: call it a sporting wicket. That's that's something that I
Speaker 3: want to point out here. I see Kingshukia saying how
Speaker 3: to support Boomra, so how to take twenty wickets?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 3: How how the how on earth can you play for me?
Speaker 3: Shardul has proven to be a better bowler. You only agreed.
Speaker 3: He took around thirty five wickets in Ranji Trophy before
Speaker 3: this IPL, and he did decently well in the IPL
Speaker 3: after coming in as a replacement player.
Speaker 1: And he has the experience of playing in England.
Speaker 3: So if someone doesn't perform as expected, it's not the
Speaker 3: it's not the fault of the coach, like I want
Speaker 3: to point that out to you. Also, I am here
Speaker 3: to defend. I'm not saying that Gotama has done so well.
Speaker 3: He has got won one in the last nine Test matches.
Speaker 3: Under Gotamam, India have won one of the one of
Speaker 3: their last nine Test matches, if I'm not wrong, So
Speaker 3: that's a poor record to have.
Speaker 1: But like I said in the previous episode of the
Speaker 1: Sledging Room podcast.
Speaker 3: If you are giving a young team, if you're going
Speaker 3: through a transition period, that transition period has also fastened.
Speaker 3: It's not like, Okay, we were prepared for this because
Speaker 3: r and verat rue. At least Okay, there were doubts
Speaker 3: over whether he would play in England. We were looking
Speaker 3: at other openers, but we are not Many expected him
Speaker 3: to go this early, at least till the end of
Speaker 3: the cycle.
Speaker 1: He was expected to play.
Speaker 3: And don't forget when we are talking about even the
Speaker 3: Gambier was asked in the press conference, like since twenty
Speaker 3: twenty two, India's ability to take twenty wickets has you
Speaker 3: know reduced.
Speaker 1: That's that's not a problem only with Gambi.
Speaker 3: Rahald Robert also faced it at the end of his
Speaker 3: tenure because because of the injuries to these bowlers. Like
Speaker 3: last Test series is England knows India where India did
Speaker 3: take twenty wickets in subcontinent in South Africa?
Speaker 1: What did he do? We didn't take twenty wickets.
Speaker 3: In South Africa, we finished a game in one and
Speaker 3: a half days and one stuppy like the drawn Test,
Speaker 3: we didn't take twenty wickets or the.
Speaker 1: Test we loss. The Test we loss.
Speaker 3: There are instances of him traveling overseas the World Test
Speaker 3: Championship Final.
Speaker 1: The things haven't seen. The problem with Gambi is that
Speaker 1: in so when when you were when.
Speaker 3: You want to say that Nita should have played ahead
Speaker 3: of Charlotte Taker, I don't agree with that. It was
Speaker 3: an aggressive move from the Indian team, although they could
Speaker 3: have gone all out aggressive by playing a specialist bowler
Speaker 3: or a fourth pacer. But again, but again, if you
Speaker 3: were worried when Rochman were not scoring runs, I needed
Speaker 3: a little bit of batting backup. Now with the very
Speaker 3: inexperienced top order, you still need a little a little
Speaker 3: bit of batting backup. I won't question this team selection
Speaker 3: for the first Tests, just that people didn't perform well.
Speaker 3: President Krishna and SIAJ. Siraj showed really good form in
Speaker 3: ipl he was given a break, he didn't He was
Speaker 3: not picked for the champions Trophy. It was not like
Speaker 3: they picked a random bowler and brought him in. He's
Speaker 3: a proven customer in England, so if he doesn't do well,
Speaker 3: it's not the coaches problem. And this is also the
Speaker 3: start of the first Test. It's not These are not
Speaker 3: easy conditions to adapt. We always talk about, you know,
Speaker 3: bowler's batters getting to adapt to these conditions, but bowlers
Speaker 3: also take time.
Speaker 1: So I think, yes, India, haven't. India could have won
Speaker 1: this match.
Speaker 3: India had the opportunity to you know, push England, but
Speaker 3: they disappointed that. That's the thing. It's not like something
Speaker 3: we massively went off the market. Team selection. I think
Speaker 3: team selection in Australia was even worse when you had
Speaker 3: to when you could have played ash, when you played soon,
Speaker 3: when you wanted to play a cash deep, you played
Speaker 3: as rana. When it was pitched when it was a
Speaker 3: pitch suited for you played a cash deep.
Speaker 1: So these were the concerns that the.
Speaker 3: Name argument can be made here also, But you are,
Speaker 3: for some reason defending that shard selection.
Speaker 1: The problem is that selection is not the problem. The problem.
Speaker 3: No, no, it is because again I keep coming back to continuity.
Speaker 3: The second India picked size at number three. The problem
Speaker 3: started because you had to fit Karun. Karuna has been
Speaker 3: sensational in running season. Now you can't put him at three,
Speaker 3: so you put him at six. You already have that
Speaker 3: extracution of a batter. But then you want the bowling
Speaker 3: like like you said, to support him. Shar comes in
Speaker 3: my I thought the playing eleven would have been the
Speaker 3: openers Karun at three, Punt Gill whatever, and then through.
Speaker 1: Jurail at six and you not.
Speaker 3: You don't pick Pressith if you wanted to go with
Speaker 3: bring a bowler who can give you control like a
Speaker 3: cash deep, or you bring in a spinner because the
Speaker 3: match was going to go five days. That was said
Speaker 3: by the pitch curator on before day one. The selection
Speaker 3: has been wrong. It's not the Shar flat which may
Speaker 3: tell me one Test match where Shardul has done exceptionally well.
Speaker 1: Where the deck has been flat.
Speaker 3: No, see it's about it's not your If you're a
Speaker 3: fourth bowler and the fifth bowler, your your job is
Speaker 3: not to pick wickets.
Speaker 1: Your job is to go for control, which he which
Speaker 1: he offered in series in saving days.
Speaker 4: Yes, but what about now the question is see like
Speaker 4: how King shuk said continuity is the main thing. And
Speaker 4: in that aspect also Ready has been a consistent performer.
Speaker 4: He did well. It's not like okay, he was also
Speaker 4: brought in from an IPL experience. His IPIL was not great.
Speaker 4: His I pil was not great at all.
Speaker 3: But the but thing is he didn't bowl in the
Speaker 3: IPAL and he carries had those issues.
Speaker 4: But if you are going to use very scarcely, why
Speaker 4: not bring in a.
Speaker 3: Better See that's something that could have been worked well.
Speaker 3: Like you said, it's the even instinct that he chose.
Speaker 3: You know, even even if correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 4: Also on this aspect, let me just say it, why
Speaker 4: would you bring in a hit the deck borler like
Speaker 4: precess for this match?
Speaker 1: I felt we needed something different.
Speaker 4: If you look at the England team, are there big
Speaker 4: time hit the deck borloers in that as?
Speaker 1: I don't. I didn't even rate the England.
Speaker 3: Bowling lineup also yeah yeah coming into this Test match
Speaker 3: I did not at all. The whole thing is that
Speaker 3: did you really need a process Krishna in this because what.
Speaker 4: I've seen with Prusss is he's more of even when
Speaker 4: you say it as a hit hit the deck bowler,
Speaker 4: he's more of a confidence bowler. When he's fully confident,
Speaker 4: he can do a lot of things with the ball.
Speaker 4: I think it was an England game where he kind
Speaker 4: of changed the complexion of that game. It was game
Speaker 4: he was going for runs, but then the second spell
Speaker 4: he kind of broke the game open. Here he was
Speaker 4: constantly going for the same thing. I think you and me,
Speaker 4: we were covering the game. I think he was bowling
Speaker 4: to Jamie Smith. He got hit for a six, and
Speaker 4: our reaction was, why are you trying to do the
Speaker 4: same thing over and over again when it is not working.
Speaker 4: Finally he got the wicket of Jamie Smith. But when
Speaker 4: you are having a spell where you're conceding six more
Speaker 4: than six in and oh for an over in an
Speaker 4: innings across both both the innings, that is really baffling.
Speaker 4: And I thought, for the large part yesterday when I
Speaker 4: was watching the game, the whole thing was I thought, okay,
Speaker 4: Boomera and Saraj were bringing in control. The moment that
Speaker 4: shradhul And specifically came in, we might be targeting him
Speaker 4: a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, granted that he's still a youngster.
Speaker 4: But you need to think on your feet when you're
Speaker 4: playing in England, you're not playing it. You don't have
Speaker 4: the comfort of home. When you're playing in a country
Speaker 4: like England or Ostar. You need to think on your feet.
Speaker 4: What makes Mumra so special is because he thinks on
Speaker 4: his feet. So at that point in time, none of
Speaker 4: the other bolos did the same thing an experience campaign,
Speaker 4: like why did One of the things that I have
Speaker 4: a bit of a problem with was the fact that
Speaker 4: why did other senior players not go up to a
Speaker 4: guy like you know, uh pressed and tell him, you know,
Speaker 4: this is what you have to do.
Speaker 1: It's not just the job of the captain to do it. Captain.
Speaker 4: Again, we say that Schumann is a young captain, why
Speaker 4: not a k Rowl, Why not a Raven? Why not Boomrah?
Speaker 4: Or why not a siaj Okay was there? I saw him,
Speaker 4: but maybe that was the reason. Maybe that was the reason.
Speaker 4: But you need to motivate that guy to do better,
Speaker 4: like say that your hit the deck thing is not
Speaker 4: working here.
Speaker 1: Try to bold the line that Bumra is bored.
Speaker 3: This has been a problem ever since Bartharon left, is
Speaker 3: what I figured out. Like the way the the you
Speaker 3: know the plans, You devise a plan, but then you
Speaker 3: stick to it even if it doesn't work. There's no quick,
Speaker 3: quick on the feit on the go thinking that you
Speaker 3: you pointed out because in Austlia, in that twenty twenty
Speaker 3: one series where Rahana and Captain I still remember, there
Speaker 3: were so many plans. There was a lexlip place, there
Speaker 3: was a short cover, there was bouncer, bouncer theories. When
Speaker 3: when did you I so Jamie Smith got out while
Speaker 3: playing the bouncer in the first innings there was no
Speaker 3: bouncer attempted to the second innings.
Speaker 1: You couldn't get the bouncer Brooke.
Speaker 3: First innings you couldn't get the bouncer theory going for Benduckett. Also,
Speaker 3: Benduckett gave one chance to assess you as well, but
Speaker 3: you still persisted bowling that off stump line, sometimes bowling
Speaker 3: it wide.
Speaker 1: There was no you know, real plan.
Speaker 3: When it comes to yes, I understand that probably this
Speaker 3: is a setup that is still gelling. But these are basics,
Speaker 3: Like you pointed out, they are playing professional cricket.
Speaker 1: Like King shoot tomorrow comes and says okay.
Speaker 3: I have been in this industry for six years, so
Speaker 3: I cannot if he if he okay, if if we
Speaker 3: give him a sensational interview beer. He could not he
Speaker 3: could not do well. It's okay, but if you can't
Speaker 3: do the basics right, then there's a problem.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: That's something that baffled me because there was no real
Speaker 3: bowling plan when England.
Speaker 1: Were going hammer and tongs.
Speaker 3: In fact, in the first session of day five when
Speaker 3: Ben Duckett and Zach Crawley were playing, they did not
Speaker 3: do basseball. There. They gave India a lot of respect.
Speaker 3: I thought, probably they're doing a mistake by, you know,
Speaker 3: giving some eating up time because time was also an
Speaker 3: impact in factor with the weather around. But our bowling
Speaker 3: was completely listless, even Boomera for that matter. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: might call it fatigue and all that. But in the
Speaker 3: second things he was toothless. Let's call us a spade
Speaker 3: a space, I think a couple of sensation after that,
Speaker 3: he wasn't even trying to bowl full hit the length,
Speaker 3: get you know, bold straight line. If you're the leader
Speaker 3: of the bowling attack, probably you should also, you know,
Speaker 3: conjure plans. You should also go tell the captain that, okay,
Speaker 3: give me that fielder. I need things to happen. But
Speaker 3: of course, when you're not having control when you are
Speaker 3: leaking runs like six seven runs and it's not like
Speaker 3: you there they were taking singers, they were finding boundary
Speaker 3: every over, so that then becomes a little bit difficult.
Speaker 3: But on the whole, I would still say that it's just.
Speaker 1: The first test of the series. It's just the first
Speaker 1: test with a new team.
Speaker 3: Of course, probably let's not react by you know, yes,
Speaker 3: pressid Krishna did not bowl well, but he's here in
Speaker 3: the dressing room for a reason.
Speaker 1: He has shown that he can do well. In the
Speaker 1: Firth Test, he did well.
Speaker 3: But I couldn't understand one thing that Gambi said yesterday
Speaker 3: in the press conference about this fast bowling group. He said,
Speaker 3: it's not that we are looking for this tour. We
Speaker 3: are looking to build a pace battery that will serve
Speaker 3: the team for ages. Of course, of course, when even
Speaker 3: if you see in the twenty fourteen fifteen series, Ishant
Speaker 3: was there, Shami was young, Umish was there, but they
Speaker 3: were all at their you know, early stages of their
Speaker 3: career where they couldn't do well.
Speaker 1: But we're not.
Speaker 3: In a way, he was very good with with his
Speaker 3: fast bowlers and in a way he was lucky also
Speaker 3: that their prime met with his Captaincy is a generational talent.
Speaker 3: From day one in Test cricket, he has been sensational.
Speaker 3: Shammi peaked. There was a time in England when Shami
Speaker 3: used to beat the outsiders, beat outsiders, but never used
Speaker 3: to pick up wickets, but that changed in twenty twenty
Speaker 3: twenty two was sensational under We're at Ishant who had
Speaker 3: consistently had troubles in overseas conditions. Under Doni he was
Speaker 3: a passenger, but his prime came under rat Colice Captaincy.
Speaker 1: So is there merit when Gambir says.
Speaker 3: This group should be persisted with, so he's he's picked
Speaker 3: a group right, So let's say so boo, Yeah, they
Speaker 3: have been servants of indiangrate.
Speaker 1: For a very long time. Now.
Speaker 5: You picked Deep Sing who asked you to pick us
Speaker 5: Deep Sing who asked like based on like a couple
Speaker 5: of county games last season, who asked you to a
Speaker 5: domestic season dom trophy.
Speaker 1: This is not the first time that Steve has a
Speaker 1: sensational That's.
Speaker 3: When you need your identifying bowlers right. You could have
Speaker 3: easily asked the same question to ask who the hell
Speaker 3: picked Why did you pick Bumra for Test cricket. He
Speaker 3: was labeled a white ball bowler, although Bomra had good
Speaker 3: domestic labeled labeled a.
Speaker 1: White ball because people saw him in I p yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the reason. That's also you're you're also saying that
Speaker 1: is already said exactly.
Speaker 3: But aren't there bowlers who have played Test cricket who
Speaker 3: offer value in seeming conditions of name one good left.
Speaker 1: Tomp pacer who can left. That's why that.
Speaker 3: They're going to probably that is the variation that they're
Speaker 3: going for. Okay, we have to hit the tech bowlers
Speaker 3: in our squad right now? Did not have the hardship
Speaker 3: question has been answered by the pressure, which is the
Speaker 3: same thing that there always a niggle in the squad,
Speaker 3: which is why we depicked him as a cover. Now
Speaker 3: that the niggle is over, we might send him back,
Speaker 3: but I have to talk to the selectors whether we want.
Speaker 1: To send him back.
Speaker 3: Clearly you would not do that, clearly says he's not
Speaker 3: He's not going to be the plan.
Speaker 1: So Gambir has this, you know, liking for us.
Speaker 3: I probably seeing something in him, so he's giving him
Speaker 3: time with the squad. But but my question is like
Speaker 3: sorry to interrupted that. My question is there was there
Speaker 3: wasted well in the Giants game, by the way, but
Speaker 3: both games, let's.
Speaker 1: Not jump that gun.
Speaker 3: Also, they were not part of the eighteen man squad.
Speaker 3: Initially they were not. But that's why, right, That's why
Speaker 3: they prepped there. So it's just confusing. We've talked I think.
Speaker 4: We've talked about it that how in our conversations, that
Speaker 4: how India has prepared so well in coming into this series.
Speaker 4: They came here two weeks prior, they played two practice matches.
Speaker 1: I think everybody was happy for.
Speaker 3: The first time. I think some of the A listers
Speaker 3: also played these A games.
Speaker 4: Yes, Kalal, I think close to six or seven people
Speaker 4: were there. Now, all these preparations are done, everything is sorted,
Speaker 4: but but then when it comes to the match, you're
Speaker 4: making those crucial errors.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 4: See in a couple of days time, I think I'll
Speaker 4: forget about this loss.
Speaker 1: It does not matter.
Speaker 4: Like you look at the grand scheme of things, You're like, Okay,
Speaker 4: there are four more matches.
Speaker 3: Saturday in a couple of days. Saturday will come, Saturday
Speaker 3: evening will come. Of course, everybody will forget this law.
Speaker 4: But the fact of the matters, Like you said, this
Speaker 4: was a game that we could have won. This is
Speaker 4: not an England team that is going to be world
Speaker 4: beaters or are going to the WTC final. This is
Speaker 4: a team that could have been easily picked apart. Now
Speaker 4: you will have javv Rarcher coming in. If he is
Speaker 4: coming in and he starts to bounce out your battles,
Speaker 4: then it becomes a whole different.
Speaker 3: Ballgaycos and they are already reporting that Wood might be
Speaker 3: fit for four and five, so Gus Atkinson is also there,
Speaker 3: then then this team gets.
Speaker 1: An upgrade for us.
Speaker 4: It's about counting the number of matches that Boomra will play. Okay,
Speaker 4: is it going to be the second test that he's
Speaker 4: going to get dropped or is it.
Speaker 1: Going to be the third test? I mean as clearly
Speaker 1: said that he is going to agree with that plan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that but we don't know how that happens because
Speaker 3: the player always has the same If the player comes
Speaker 3: and say that no fit and I am going to play,
Speaker 3: what what will come to do about?
Speaker 1: Of course, if you thin down then there's the is
Speaker 1: no point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but as we have seen that whenever that happens,
Speaker 3: then also the force no. No to the credit, they
Speaker 3: did not force boom after we went kneel down against
Speaker 3: New Zealand, to kneel down against New Zealand. But I
Speaker 3: couldn't understand why he played those two tests against Banglades.
Speaker 1: That kind of I don't know, that kind of hampered
Speaker 1: the entire planning.
Speaker 4: You could have actually Champion series could have actually been
Speaker 4: your testing ground, testing ground for most of these talents.
Speaker 3: You could have used them. It was his first series.
Speaker 3: He didn't want to take a risk.
Speaker 1: Chris.
Speaker 4: Yeah, then now you are left with, like you're saying,
Speaker 4: building a pace battery is not going to be.
Speaker 1: An easy thing.
Speaker 4: Yes, you need to have ensured that these guys at
Speaker 4: least harsh For me. Obviously I have that personal bias
Speaker 4: because of his case care allegiance. But the fact of
Speaker 4: the MATTERSS, he's still very raw. You can see that
Speaker 4: in his game in Australia. He showed flashes of brilliance
Speaker 4: in that first per Perth test. He got hit, then
Speaker 4: he came back, he took the cat of Travis had
Speaker 4: He showed that aggression, which I.
Speaker 1: Like on very spicy pictures of Australia.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like the fact that he's got that aggression,
Speaker 4: that attitude that can compliment boomrah in maybe a couple
Speaker 4: of years, but for now, let him build up the
Speaker 4: thing right you should have ideally, Okay, the whole argument
Speaker 4: comes in. This was a test that needed variety a
Speaker 4: left hamp pacer could have. I'm not saying that he
Speaker 4: could have done any better than these guys, but at
Speaker 4: least it's something different than coming in trying to hit
Speaker 4: the hit the deck hard. Apart from a couple of
Speaker 4: variable bounces here and there, which care Rahul obviously told
Speaker 4: and Tumble to size, there was nothing else on that track.
Speaker 1: We tell me.
Speaker 3: Have you guys ever seen us Deep as a control bowler? Yeah,
Speaker 3: of course, as even in T twenty cricket he's able
Speaker 3: to hit six tails. He said the same speak. My
Speaker 3: only thing is he as the if we cannot compare Arshdeep,
Speaker 3: Harshith and Pressed, they have very different trajectories in their careers.
Speaker 3: Harshith is still young, he's raw, he has talent, he
Speaker 3: has the pace. Prussied has had plenty of injury concerns
Speaker 3: on and off. He was once stouted as you know,
Speaker 3: the next big thing. I still remember once we had
Speaker 3: a selection meeting in Bengaloo for which I went ms K.
Speaker 3: Press was a format chairman of that at that point
Speaker 3: of time and he was somebody asked him the same
Speaker 3: question after Shami Buma, who are there? Can you name
Speaker 3: a few paces that you guys are looking at scouting at.
Speaker 3: He said, there's one Karnataka bolar called Pressed Krishna. He's tall,
Speaker 3: he's he has the pace and he has good, you know,
Speaker 3: skills to play all formats. So this was in twenty
Speaker 3: sixteen seventeen. So from then on he has been being
Speaker 3: built up. The eight years from there he has had
Speaker 3: plenty of injury concerns, He has had his own moments,
Speaker 3: he has had his downfalls also, So that is pressith
Speaker 3: our step is a bona fide superstar in white ball cradete.
Speaker 3: He has won your T twenty World Cup. He has
Speaker 3: been part of that setup. So his confidence we should
Speaker 3: take that into account. When Mumra was so high, when
Speaker 3: Bumra was a world beater in white ball format, it's
Speaker 3: always good to strike the iron when it's hot, right,
Speaker 3: Like Bumra was unleased in South Africa. Not many expected
Speaker 3: that to happen. I think in the first Test, in
Speaker 3: the first Test he gave they played him and he
Speaker 3: unleased hell there, So why not do that with that
Speaker 3: sleep when you can do that with Harshid, when you
Speaker 3: can do that with Preussithe and like he pointed out,
Speaker 3: like we have all pointed out the left arm variation
Speaker 3: that is there right, that is very very very.
Speaker 1: Very important, is what I think.
Speaker 3: But you know what, guys, before we you know, wrap up,
Speaker 3: I just want to ask one question, what was the
Speaker 3: what was your first impression of.
Speaker 1: SUPERMERNKL as a as a cap captain? Of course lots
Speaker 1: to learn.
Speaker 4: I think one of the biggest things that I the
Speaker 4: positives that I saw was the fact that how he
Speaker 4: took up the number four role.
Speaker 1: That was brilliant towards that.
Speaker 4: I always expected him to become a number four matter
Speaker 4: while he was opening, while he was at number three,
Speaker 4: I thought he will find that comfort at number four.
Speaker 4: One school he is done because everybody has been saying that.
Speaker 1: He is the hair apparent too.
Speaker 4: Captain c wise, I think he needs to be a
Speaker 4: little more proactive. He needs to be on the like
Speaker 4: he's done that in the IPL. He was whenever his
Speaker 4: team when Gujura Titans were playing, I could always see
Speaker 4: him be with the bowler telling him what to do.
Speaker 4: What not to do setting up things. Maybe a little
Speaker 4: more proactive in that. And probably he needs to tell
Speaker 4: the seniors that guys, I can't be.
Speaker 1: Always there at every point in time. Just help out.
Speaker 1: Maybe a Boomra might be a best guy to help
Speaker 1: out the bowlers.
Speaker 4: Even a Siraj also for that matter, a Boomra can
Speaker 4: come out and help out Siraj and say that bro,
Speaker 4: like you need to bowld this, try this out. Maybe
Speaker 4: he can, you know, compartmentalize his departments a little.
Speaker 1: Maybe a batting we.
Speaker 4: Saw how Kale Raoul managed the first few moments of
Speaker 4: pan just went bang bang, And then I think Kale,
Speaker 4: even though he said you let him be, I think
Speaker 4: Kale went and told him that, you know, bro, just
Speaker 4: like yeah, yeah, just manage it a little. I am
Speaker 4: taking the I'll take a lot of the pressure, but
Speaker 4: you also try to.
Speaker 1: Pace your innings well. So you have a Kal to
Speaker 1: guide those guys in the batting department.
Speaker 3: But that happened during the fielding also, I think I
Speaker 3: I watched Siraj Kale Jadja set fields like bring Man's square,
Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. But I thought was like, so
Speaker 3: there's this one match in IPL this season where Schumann
Speaker 3: Gill had a scuffle with an umpire. I think paduad
Speaker 3: Miller ca oh. There was a runout attempt where the
Speaker 3: ball hit the glove and the glove hit the wicked
Speaker 3: and Shumann was given out. He went to the face
Speaker 3: of the umpire and he said, and he stayed him down.
Speaker 3: He's like, explain me, why have I have been given out?
Speaker 3: In the same match later on he once again went
Speaker 3: to the umpire told him that listen, this is my ground.
Speaker 1: Behave. That's the shoeman I want in India. Captains, you
Speaker 1: you need aggression.
Speaker 3: Also, I don't want that cheeky little shoeman on the
Speaker 3: sidelines like you say now that divide responsibility. No, yeah, no,
Speaker 3: no yeah. I want him to walk up to every
Speaker 3: single England batter tell them I am here.
Speaker 1: I'm going to conquer you guys.
Speaker 4: I think last year he did that with Barstow when
Speaker 4: Barstow went up and took offense to what he said
Speaker 4: to James Anderson and try to kind of you know,
Speaker 4: ruffle of Shuperman. Super said, I've scored one hundred. What
Speaker 4: have you done in the series. Yeah, I want that
Speaker 4: Superman back. It's it's a high time that we get
Speaker 4: get out of this hangover. We have one series without
Speaker 4: such type of you actually the thing that type of aggression.
Speaker 3: Also, there was a who did not do any of this,
Speaker 3: and one you the biggest series that I created also
Speaker 3: boost series. No, there was no imagine that. So those
Speaker 3: are the things that I'm saying, and I like this
Speaker 3: composure the way. He was quite candidate, did not say, oh,
Speaker 3: we scored this much, the tale didn't. Can't kind of
Speaker 3: acknowledge that the tale didn't do well and the catches
Speaker 3: went down, and he said and given dummy said that
Speaker 3: let's give credit to where it's due. He said that
Speaker 3: these are issues that we have and hopefully we'll work
Speaker 3: on it. It's just the first test and before the
Speaker 3: second test, hopefully we'll work on it. And see why
Speaker 3: we are wrapping up this without you know, talking about
Speaker 3: the positives, without talking about the second test, which starts
Speaker 3: on July two in Birmingham, is that we'll have another
Speaker 3: episode for that separately. We'll discuss in details the changes
Speaker 3: that needed to be made, that that needs to be made,
Speaker 3: and a little bit of England also what they have
Speaker 3: done well in the last two years, especially at home,
Speaker 3: and why this might be an insurmountable series in the Meanwhile,
Speaker 3: in the in this week probably we can expect a
Speaker 3: piece from King Chuk explaining why India might win this
Speaker 3: series for one so stay tuned for it. Share that
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