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Speaker 1: This is a podcast from Minute Media.

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Speaker 2: Okay, everybody, welcome back to the Shirly You Can't Be

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Serious podcast. This is part two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna talk about casting today. Super excited to

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get into that with you. You always have the best

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information on casting.

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Speaker 2: Where else are you going to get that little nugget

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of information that said if the dad from Flipper hadn't

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had a motorcycle accident, we would not have got Blade Runner.

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You are not getting that anywhere else. I promise you that. Yeah,

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that was that was a rabbit also a deep dive. Man,

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it was quite a rabbit hole. Well done. Yep, let's

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get into part two et versus the Thing versus Blade Runner. Okay, Jason,

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we have an executive producer for this episode. Yeah, his

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name's Chris Pick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Chris got to our Patreon page. We've talked to

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you about our Patreon before and some of the prizes

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you can get for the various levels. We are starting

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a brand new thing that Jason and I are super

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excited about. We're going to have each month a bonus

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episode that is exclusively for our Patreon subscribers, and we're

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going to be going through the one hit Wonders of

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the eighties and beyond in every single episode.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be awesome. Jason is a genius.

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He called me with this idea.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, this is why I partnered with you on this,

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because you are a genius.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: We started one hit Wonders and I'm like salivating at

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how many awesome songs out there that were the only

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hit by some of these folks that I'm just I'm

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dying to dive into.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it. If you would like to.

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Speaker 3: Be a part of that, please check out our Patreon page.

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It's patreon dot com slash Sure podcast, and for as

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little as five bucks a month, you can join in

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on those super secret episodes with us.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we are going to drop one this month. We're

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gonna start with a bang. It's the video Killed the

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Radio Star. It's gonna be awesome. One hit wonder by

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the Buggles. Come check us out on Patreon for that

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exclusive episode. We sure appreciate it. Chris, Thank you so much.

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We are deeply grateful. You the man. Okay, so listen

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to this. So et made seven hundred and ninety two

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million dollars in nineteen eighty two. In nineteen eighty two. Yeah,

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at the time, it was the most money ever made

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by any one movie of all time. Yeah, okay, so

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let's put that in perspective for just a second.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So Blade Runner made yeah, forty million, okay, Okay, not

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profit total total, right right? The Thing made eighteen seventeen

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nineteen million, nineteen million. Budget was fifteen okay, So that

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means they made about four million bucks. And if we're

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talking about a giant movie like that, that's not enough. No, basically,

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you've got to make three times your budget to be

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considered a hit. Yeah, okay, Now follow me on this, Okay.

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This is Summer of eighty two. Conan the Barbarian, Annie,

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Rocky three, Poulter, Geist, Star Trek two, Grease two, Blade Runner,

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The Thing, The Best Full of Whorehouse in Texas, Zapped,

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and An Officer and a Gentleman. Those movies were all

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released the summer of eighty two. Their combined total at

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the box office is seven hundred and sixty two million dollars.

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That's still thirty million dollars less than e Team made

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by itself. Wow. So et was top of the box

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office for twelve weeks. Yes, you just mentioned a ton

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of incredible movies. Yes, but you posed the question to

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me which of those movies knocked ET out of the

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top spot? And I was like Rocky three, Nope. No,

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I was like Tron Nope, Like best Little Whohouse in Texts? Nope?

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What was it, Jason? What movie of those that you

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just listed knocked E t out of the top You

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may have caught it because it was the one that

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really doesn't belong. It's Zapped, starring Scott Bayo, the stupid

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teen comedy that he could lift up girls skirts with

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like telekinesis. It's a boomfast. That's the movie that Heather Thomas.

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That's the movie that knocked ET have the number one spot.

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Now ET came back and regained it and bounced around

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number one. For the risk. It was in theaters for

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almost a year. Yeah, I mean I saw it probably

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five times in the theater. Tak my mom, Dad took.

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on our very first episode when we were talking about

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Michael Jackson's Thrower. ET is one of the great cinematic

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experiences I've ever had in my life. Okay, and it's

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all right, and I wasn't alone because it made eight

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hundred million dollars. Yeah, okay, we ready, tadcasting. Sure, stop casting.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna have to sleep sometime, a real.

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Speaker 2: Light sleeper child. Okay. So the thing is an ensemble movie,

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all guys, no females except a little tiny cameo that

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his kind of go to actresses was a lady named

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Adrian Barbou. Yes, we might have mentioned her inconsistent zipper

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height when we did our Cannonball Run episode. She was

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a well endowed young actress that ultimately ended up being

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his wife, and as it turns out, she's the one

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female part in this movie, as the voice of the

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chess computer that McCready is playing chess against that he

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ultimately I believe drowns with some J and B whiskey

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Speaker 2: Check maan, check mak.

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Speaker 4: The bitch.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right, Adrian Barbou, the voice of the computer.

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Reynolds with her cleavage and her zippers.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'll take care of this one.

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Speaker 5: Well, hello, hot pants. I don't suppose you have a

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driver's license tuck down in there somewhere, do you?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, So Kurt Russell was the last guy hired,

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which I find fascinating. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's interesting because I told you that we

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have a Those guys fell in love on the set

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of Elvis, right, uh huh. They of course went on

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to make Escape from New York, which is a fantastic

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movie and was kind of a reason that he got

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greenlit to do some of the other movies that he did,

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including The Thing by the Way, Escape from New York

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fantastic love it.

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Speaker 2: Did you know that?

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Speaker 3: Like the it's a total satire of all the old

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Speaker 2: I did not know that until you pointed that out.

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Speaker 3: But I mean it's spot on you if you had

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those guys be a little bit uglier and a little

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bit quieter, that is snake Pliskin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, yeah. You take the guy who was the

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Disney hero, give him an.

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Speaker 3: Eyepatch and a murderous attitude, and that is that's how

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you burn that image to the ground.

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Speaker 2: Well, speaking of the man with no name, Clint Eastwood

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was one of the guys considered for the part of McCready.

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That would have been funny in nineteen eighty two, right right,

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of the guys. He was kind of an unknown at

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the time. Yeah, but Carboner really liked him, Okay, Christopher Walking,

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which you mentioned, yep. Nick Nolty okay, Sam Shephard Okay,

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big Tom? No, son, that's for me. Bill Ancaster was

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the screenwriter, the person he had in his mind when

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he was writing the part of McCready. Harrison Ford, there

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you go, husband of Melissa Matheson, Star of Blader, inner

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the one of the last guys left. The Bees and

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the Franks go back to our Something about Marry episode.

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He is Mary's dad, Mary's dad. Yeah. Ernie Hudson had

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this part, wow, until Keith David read for it. Ernie

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Hudson was, of course the fourth Ghostbuster. Yeah right, if

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there's a steady paycheck in it.

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Speaker 4: I'll believe anything you say.

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Speaker 2: I have seen that makes you turn white. Right. Bernie

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Casey and Carl Weathers were considered for this. Okay, Paula Creed,

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that'd been cool, right, Yeah. Blair Now, Blair is the

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part played by Wilford Brimley. Good morning, I'm Wilford Brimley,

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and I'd like to talk to you for a few

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minutes about diabetes.

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Speaker 3: Wilford Brimley. Here's an interesting tidbit about Wilford Brimley. Yes,

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he was bodyguard for Howard Hughes before he became an actor.

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Howard Hughes, Howard Hugh the aviator, Howard Hughes, the movie producer,

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Howard Hughes the inventor, Yes, the crazy Howard Hughes. Wilfrid

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Brimley was a bodyguard for him.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing. Yeah. Donald Pleasants was originally supposed to be Blair. Yeah.

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you know, and he's like, I feel better now, like

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to come inside, and there's that news that's hanging right

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next to explain it. I literally wrote.

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Speaker 3: It down as I'm watching the movie. I'm like, what's

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a word about the noose?

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right right? Jay Leno read for a part in this movie. Okay,

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so did Gary Shanley. Okay.

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so maybe it was one of those parts. Okay. Richard

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who handles the dogs. Yeah, he's the dad in License

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to Drive, Right. He turned down a part in et.

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the way. Oh yeah, man, he's great as the dad.

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Speaker 1: I like him.

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Speaker 2: Was he the guy crap?

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Speaker 3: Was he the guy who interviewed Tom Cruise in Risky

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business Man. Oh dude, if I'm right about that, howe

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me a coke or something?

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Speaker 2: Okay, hold on and yes he was.

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Speaker 5: Wow, Now it's my understanding, Joelt, you would like to

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Speaker 2: He was Rutherford. That's fantastic, great job.

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Speaker 3: He read the script and they didn't know which part

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they were going to cast him in. They wanted him,

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they didn't, and he was like, I asked for Clark

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because the idea of a guy who had more love

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for the dogs than he did for the humans was

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Speaker 2: Interestingly, Richard Manser and Keith David decided through rehearsals. Uh

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huh that because they were the two biggest guys there. Yeah,

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they weren't going to like each other. This is Keith

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David's first film role, right, fascinating love it Okay. The

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part of Gary Jerry Orbach was considered for the part

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of Gary b Oh guest Baby's Dad, Baby's Dad from

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Dirty Dancing. And then finally, I mean, we could go

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through all these guys, but I'm gonna throw a couple

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out when you're done. Fuchs. The guy who plays Fuchs

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is Gary from Gary's Old Town tavern from cheers. Oh

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my gosh, that is a deep cut, my friend. Well,

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thank you, well done, thank you. That is great.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I'll throw a couple out there for you.

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doctor that goes to the old Norwegian.

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Speaker 2: He's the guy who gets his hand eaten off when

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he's yes, yeah, he gets his arms bit off, yes,

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bitten off. Excuse me.

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Speaker 3: I recognized him from La Law, like I watched La

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Law and he was like the main prime partner on

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Speaker 2: Well weird in me?

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Speaker 3: I was, he has a nose ring in this thing.

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Keith David, So tell me why windows is called windows.

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he was like, from now on, I want you.

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just call me Windows. Yeah, And that's how Windows became

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a character. Oh okay, I forgot to tell you this story.

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all these guys talking about how it is like summer camp, right,

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hotel or whatever, and they've got to take this special

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they're taking their life in their own hands. But they

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all had a ball, you know. I mean, you're you've

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got flamethrowers and you're in Canada and you're all there

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by yourself and you're having a great time. I thought

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that was interesting. But the one actor I wanted to

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point out that may have had the best performance. According

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to John Carpenter. Now, okay, the dog. Oh yeah, the dog,

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it's the Norwegian dog that has come into the camp

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shots that it needed it. But he wasn't real comfortable

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around human beings. Like you can see him when he

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out by the dog. He's uncomfortable there too. But all

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they had to do whenever he had to stare at

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the wall in that weird way, was just a little

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bit of a signal to show that something was wrong,

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Speaker 2: It's fascinating, by the way. Kurt Russell told a story

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about when they pulled into. They shot parts of it

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in Canada, parts in Juno, Alaska, and parts in LA.

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Kurt Russell says, one hundred and five degrees outside, and

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so anytime they went to lunch, they had to like

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take off all their ski gear, right, and then you know,

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walking one hundred and five degree heat to come back

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in and put all their coods on. Yeah. The guy

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who played Clark, Richard Master, said, eventually they just said

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heck with it, and they would just wear their parkas out.

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we're walking through, and then we'll walk in an air

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conditioned room and we'll be fine again. He goes.

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Speaker 3: People were looking at it's weird when we were wearing

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our parkas. Then I came in with a bullet hole

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in my head and people like literally moved away from

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Speaker 2: Kurt Russell said. When they pulled up to the studio

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to begin filming the thing, there's a giant sign that

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said welcome Dolly Parton and Burt Reynolds. The big thing

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at that moment was best little whorehouse in Texas. Yeah,

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done with casting on the thing. Let's move on to

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Blade Run Replicans.

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Speaker 5: They're like any other machine.

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Speaker 2: They're either a benefit or a hazard. They're a benefit.

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That's not my problem, So not a big casting Blade Runner.

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Listen to who they wanted for DECKERD. We already talked

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about how this is pre Raiders of the Lost Ark.

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Speaker 5: They don't advertise for killers in a newspaper. That was

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my profession law x cop ex blade Runner ex killer.

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Speaker 2: At that point, he had been in I think Force

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ten from navarone and Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back,

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and that's pretty much it. American graffiti, American graffiti. I mean,

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he had a big part in American graffiti. Yeah, okay.

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They wanted Dustin Hoffman as Deckerd wow at the time,

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like he was their number one choice, and Dustin Hoffman

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was like, you shouldn't want a little more macho guy

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for this room, right, and so he went on to

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play titson. That's right he did, right. Yeah, So think

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in terms of Blade Runner being like a film noir, right.

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Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, Philip Marlow, absolutely, Chandler, I mean very macho,

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very alcohol swilling, morally questionable guy.

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Speaker 2: So listen to the list of actors that were considered. Okay, yeah,

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Tommy Lee Jones, Gene Hackman, Sean Connery, Jack Nicholson, Paul Newman,

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I mean Chinatown of course, Jack Nicholson for sure. Yeah, okay, right,

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I mean these are yeah, little edgy, tough guys, right,

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a little older, but yes, Albacino, Burt Reynolds, Paul Newman

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did the verdict that year. Yes, okay, go aheadkay, Christopher Walking,

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Martin Sheen. Yeah. Arnold Schwarzenegger. What Arnold freaking Schwarzenegger.

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Speaker 3: So, Arnold Schwarzenegger was considered for Deckert in The Blade Runner, yep,

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but ultimately would be in another Philip K.

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Speaker 2: Dick movie, Total Recall in ninety seven, eight years later.

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How about that? Yeah, so they had some trouble with

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casting Hampton Fincher envision Robert Mitcham as deckerd Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think Robert Mitchen had played some of those Marlow

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type of guys in the past.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, all right, let's talk about Roy Batty for

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a second. I've seen the people wouldn't believe Roy Batty

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is the Batty, if you will, the leader of the replicants, right,

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He's ruger Hower. Rudger Hower. Okay, so this was the

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one role that they had no problem with. Ridley Scott

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had seen rugger Hower in a movie called Turkish Delight. Okay, okay,

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is it about dessert? No, it's not about dessert. I

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told you so. I watched. I got on YouTube and

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I googled the Turkish Delight movie trailer and I watched

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thirty seconds of it. I was so bored I almost

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fell out of my chair. If you get a boring trailer,

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you're in a bad spot. Oh my gosh. It was like,

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I'm not kidding. It was like watching Lady Chatterley's Lever

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or something like that. Okay, a seventies era softcore romantic

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cinemax movie. Okay, But really Scott loved him because he

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was Arian, right, he was what arian arian arians in

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blonde blondes, hair, blue eyed. They even went overboard and

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they proximated him for the part because of that, not

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because let's be clear here, I'm gonna say that again,

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man in the high cast old It's hilarious. He loved

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him because he was Arian. Okay, this is awkward. No,

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he loved him for the part because he was airan

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I gotcha. I got now.

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Speaker 3: From what I understand, rugger Howard showed up with his

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hair dyed that bright blonde like it was it was

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staying bleached. Yeah, I mean it was the police blonde.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 3: And then like also in like this fur coat and

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kind of looking punk rockerish, and Ridley Scott was like,

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oh my dear lord, what have I done? Yeah, but

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it was all just as it was just a messing.

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It was just a mess with him.

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Speaker 2: Look, we'll get into this later, rugger Hower and his

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his performance, and then Harrison Ford manoemno, yeah, so good.

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So let's talk about Rachel really quick. Okay, they hired

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Sean Young. You're reading a magazine. You come across the

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full page nude photo of a girl.

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Speaker 1: Is this testing whether I'm a replicant or lesbian?

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Speaker 2: Mister Deckert? Sean Young, she was very young. Who was

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the almost Vicky Vail was? She was almost Vicky Vale.

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Almost Vicky Vail fell off ho worse, that's right. She

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heard her when she break her wrist or something like that,

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she got hurt and she couldn't be Vicky Veil. But

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then she stormed Tim Burton's office. Dressed in a catwoman's

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suit and wanted him to hire her back, and they

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had to throw her out of the studio. Wow. You

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ever heard that story of Oh wow? So sean young,

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very young, beautiful bird, like I'd say in this movie.

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She's just very precise and very Okay you with me

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on that. No, I have no idea what you're talking

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about it, but I'll go all right, I'm following behind you.

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Okay the way all right? Good? So here's who they want.

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Here's the other people that they looked at. Okay, Nina

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axel Pod, I don't know who that is. Yeah, I

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looked at her. I didn't really recognize her. Okay, Okay,

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Barbara Hershey, there you go. And Philip K. Dick wanted

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Victoria principal. Wow, how about that? Okay? Okay. Also, Grace

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Jones was considered for the part of Rachel. Okay, Grace

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Jones good a Bond movie instead? No, thanks, not a

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fan of that. One of you two killed terrible Okay, Chris,

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that's the part that Darryl Hannah plays. Yes, I think

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Sebastian therefore I am. They wanted Debbie Harry from Blondie

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to play with that for sure. How about that. Yeah,

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they also looked at Monique fond Devin, who was the

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girl that Rugger Howard was in love with in Turkish Delight. Eh,

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play Chris Okay, might as well if it were just

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bring him back his boyfriend girlfriend. Sure, okay, So the

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part of Leon Kowalski wake up trying to die, Brian

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Jones is the guy who ends up playing him. Yeah,

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he's the guy who takes the boy comp test to

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the very beginning. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Man, what a great beginning scene that is. But yes,

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his portrayal in this one is a good one. He was,

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He was in a ton of stuff in the eighties,

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and I think he passed away like a pretty young age.

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I think it was only in his early fifties. Maybe

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when he passed away.

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Speaker 2: I think he was in Tingo and Cash. I think

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they put a grenade in his mouth with Kurt Russell. Yeah,

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he was in the Fifth Element as well. Okay. They

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had decided to hire this guy named Frank McCrae as

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Kowalski until really Scott's secretary told him that Brian James

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scared her, frightened her. He's scary, he is scary. He's

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intense and he's got the crazy eyes. And he does

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have the crazy eyes. And really, Scott's like, that's enough

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for me, We're going to hire him. And then Zora

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was played by joe Ane Cassidy. She was in Roger

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Rabbit Waitress. She's like Eddie's girlfriend, had a rabbit in

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your pocket or you just have it to see? That's her,

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all right, you got it nice. And then the role

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of Gaff went to Edward James Almos. Too bad, you

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won't live. But then again, who died from Stand and Deliver?

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Standing Deliver? Mimy Vice American Me. He's tough, he's intense.

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Great job. I thought this was hilarious. M Emmett Walsh

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plays Captain Bryant, another scratcher. He's raised in Arizona and

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he's in the Jerk, right, He's in a couple of

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the Coen Brothers movies. But yeah, he's great. He's the

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guy that shoots at Steve Martin. Steve Bard's like he

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hates these cans, right, even r Johnson. That's exactly right.

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So here's the funny part. So really Scott said, hey,

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for this role, could you smoke and m Mimmett Walsh

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didn't smoke, but he's like, well, okay, and really Scott

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kept having take after take after taking, kept smoking and

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smoking smoking ntil he got sick. Oh no, he got

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sick of the cigarettes. And he's made a comment in

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the press that really Scott needs to be hung up

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by his balls. Oh and the producers reamed him out

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for that. He got in trouble for that. Done with

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casting on Blade Runner, Okay, now to do casting on

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e T. He's a man from out of space and

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we're taking him to a space shirt. Well, can just

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beam up?

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Speaker 4: This is reality.

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Speaker 3: Brin maybe the most fascinating casting even though it's a

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small cast.

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Speaker 2: It's a small cast.

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Speaker 3: Now, so of course here we go another connection. Yeah,

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de Wallace was in The Howling, which was the movie

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that had Robert Boutin's first big werewolf transformation where he

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was the main guy on point.

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Speaker 2: So I kind of dug rob Botein in in our

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Howling episode for making her look like an Ewok at

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the end. Remember that. Yeah, I mean that we figured it.

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Speaker 3: We found out that that was at her behest it was,

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which was you know, that was the wrong choice there.

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Speaker 2: But that's just the tip of the iceberg. Let's go

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ahead and keep going right. Okay, So Henry Thomas was

464
00:23:35,759 --> 00:23:38,519
hired as Eliot. You can see his audition on YouTube.

465
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,640
It's heartbreaking. Yeah, you can't take him a.

466
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 4: Way much, but it's not my choice.

467
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,839
Speaker 2: The president asked me to come here and to get it.

468
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,680
Don't Carol what the president's I mean, my best friend

469
00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:52,799
and you can't.

470
00:23:52,599 --> 00:23:53,079
Speaker 4: Dog you what.

471
00:23:54,319 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 3: Steven Spielberg had seen him like in commercials and stuff,

472
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,119
but hadn't seen him really speak any lines and wanted

473
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,119
to know if he had some acting ability. He said, right, look,

474
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,759
but does can he act right? And so he had

475
00:24:07,839 --> 00:24:11,319
him come in to do some acting. Yes, and this

476
00:24:11,519 --> 00:24:14,680
is the cue that he gave him. He was like, Okay,

477
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,039
they've come to take away your best friend. There's a

478
00:24:19,079 --> 00:24:21,680
man at the door, and he is there to take

479
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,440
away your best friend. And it's your job to stop

480
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,599
this big, grown up law enforcement guy from taking your

481
00:24:28,599 --> 00:24:32,440
best friend. Yeah, when you watch this, Steven Spielberg says that.

482
00:24:32,519 --> 00:24:35,400
He says, Okay, are you ready. Henry Thomas says, yes,

483
00:24:35,799 --> 00:24:38,799
immediately knock at the door. We're here to get whatever

484
00:24:38,839 --> 00:24:42,839
whoever it is, right, and Henry Thomas he starts breaking

485
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,720
down and He's like, you can't take it not and

486
00:24:45,759 --> 00:24:48,359
you see the tears start to flow. In my gosh,

487
00:24:48,519 --> 00:24:50,880
if you have a soul in your body, you are

488
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,079
shedding tears in ten seconds of performance from this kid.

489
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 2: Here is amazing. Yeah, it really is. Yeah. Jack Fisk

490
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,759
was a friend of Spielberg. He had done a movie

491
00:25:01,759 --> 00:25:04,480
with Henry Thomas and suggested him one of the other

492
00:25:04,519 --> 00:25:06,839
boys that auditioned. So there's a hundred boys who auditioned

493
00:25:06,839 --> 00:25:08,839
for this role. Keith Coogan is one of the guys

494
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,000
who auditioned. You will remember him as one of the

495
00:25:12,079 --> 00:25:15,200
kids in Adventures in Babysitting or Don't tell Mom the

496
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,680
Babysitters Dead. Okay, Okay that guy, Yeah guy, Okay, gotcha. Yeah.

497
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,839
Henry Thomas also auditioned in a Indiana Jones outfit. Real

498
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,079
true story. Okay, the part of Gerty played by Drew Barrymore.

499
00:25:27,319 --> 00:25:30,759
Speaker 4: Could be a monkey ranging a ball? Monkey?

500
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 6: Is he a page? Sure?

501
00:25:32,279 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 2: Eats like this one. I get a story on go ahead.

502
00:25:35,559 --> 00:25:37,559
So she came to.

503
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:42,519
Speaker 3: Audition not for this movie, but for Poultergeist. Got a

504
00:25:42,519 --> 00:25:45,519
little pretty little blonde girl yep In Poultergeist.

505
00:25:45,559 --> 00:25:45,799
Speaker 2: Yep.

506
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 3: She auditions for Steven Spielberg, and he says, you're not

507
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,200
right for the part, but I think there is a

508
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,640
part in another movie that I have that you're perfect for.

509
00:25:54,279 --> 00:25:56,680
And she was like, I didn't care. I was just

510
00:25:56,759 --> 00:25:59,359
like happy to hear that I was right for a part, right.

511
00:25:59,200 --> 00:25:59,319
Speaker 4: You know.

512
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 2: So I didn't get the movie. It came to audition four.

513
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,039
But that's how she became Gerdy and et. You know,

514
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,960
he was impressed when he started talking to her. He

515
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,920
was asking her about herself and stuff like that, and

516
00:26:08,039 --> 00:26:10,160
she's like, you know what, I'm the leader of a

517
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:15,400
punk band. And he's like that sounds like gerty. Yeah, right, Yeah,

518
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,680
she's five, what five years old maybe when they're making

519
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,079
this movie, six at most. Yeah, and she already got

520
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,680
the imagination that hey, I'm gonna I'm not just I'm

521
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,000
gonna be in a rock band, but I have a

522
00:26:29,079 --> 00:26:29,480
rock band.

523
00:26:29,599 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 4: Right.

524
00:26:29,799 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 3: She detailed it like I'm the singer. There's drummers she

525
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,519
gave And he's like, this is kid's imagination is on point.

526
00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 2: We need to have her. Oh my gosh, she's so

527
00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:39,119
cute too.

528
00:26:39,319 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she comes from I mean she comes from

529
00:26:42,279 --> 00:26:44,440
acting royalty. I mean John Barrymore is one of the

530
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,680
most famous actors of all time, and it's her grandfather,

531
00:26:47,759 --> 00:26:48,119
I believe.

532
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she nails it. She's perfect. She nails it.

533
00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:55,079
Speaker 3: There isn't I don't think a cast member in this

534
00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:56,400
movie that is not perfect.

535
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,319
Speaker 2: Henry Thomas knocks it out of the park. Yeah, okay.

536
00:26:59,519 --> 00:27:03,400
Julia Lewis and Sarah Michelle Geller also auditioned for the

537
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,400
part of Gerty. Okay, how about that good okay part

538
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,680
from Michael. Robert McNaughton was the guy hired.

539
00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:10,319
Speaker 4: Where's the playground?

540
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,559
Speaker 2: It's not wheres mom?

541
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,839
Speaker 4: Where's that Poe?

542
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:16,519
Speaker 1: Bless me?

543
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,759
Speaker 2: Yeah? You know he He came out with another movie

544
00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:25,519
in nineteen eighty two. Do you know what, The Electric Grandmother?

545
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,359
That's right, it keeps coming up. I don't know how

546
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,359
these things happen, but if you will, remember Linda Gottlieb,

547
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,440
the person who produced Dirty Dancing. The movie that she

548
00:27:37,519 --> 00:27:40,599
made right before she signed un to do Dirty Dancing

549
00:27:40,799 --> 00:27:44,680
was The Electric Grandmother. And yes, how does that movie

550
00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:47,839
keep coming up? It's like a bad penny. It's a

551
00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:51,000
good movie. We should watch it, okay. Robert mcnonton auditioned

552
00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:54,240
eight times for this. Ultimately he got it and he

553
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,119
nails it. I mean the children's performances in this out

554
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,799
of this World, and Spielberg has said they're not acting, goes,

555
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,839
I just told him a story and it's just them

556
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,359
being them. Yeah, real quick, Mary, who is their mother

557
00:28:08,079 --> 00:28:11,000
that I never knew her name? I think their last name,

558
00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:14,640
according to the script is Taylor. Okay, okay, both news

559
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,880
to me. Yeah, okay. So Dee Wallace got the part

560
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,680
when she goes to conferences and conventions, she's always referred

561
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,720
to as Ethie's mom, which is kind of funny. They

562
00:28:24,759 --> 00:28:28,039
offered the part to Shelley Long Oh okay from Cheers. Yeah,

563
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:33,039
plays Diana Cheers. Okay, Now we mentioned that Peter Coyote,

564
00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:35,119
he plays the part of Keys I got. I got

565
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,720
a story for you on this one. Go.

566
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 3: So we talked about how Peter Coyote was one of

567
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,759
the considerations for Indiana Jones.

568
00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:44,359
Speaker 2: Right, yes, that's right. So he tells the story of

569
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,920
his Indiana Jones audition, right, okay. He comes in his

570
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,759
his agent has got him this audition with Steven Spielberg.

571
00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:54,759
He's excited. He's got a fedora that he wears. He's

572
00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:57,200
all decked out in the right gear, you know, and

573
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,319
he's behind the curtain and his agent introduced is. He's like,

574
00:29:00,359 --> 00:29:03,640
mister Spielberg, I would like you to meet mister Peter Coyote.

575
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,079
And he says, so, I come out from behind the curtain,

576
00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:08,759
and what you can't see is that these lights that

577
00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:10,960
they've got shining on you all have legs on them.

578
00:29:11,119 --> 00:29:14,440
And I see the legs, and so I catch one

579
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,440
of these legs. I go careening off the stage on

580
00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:21,880
my face, and Steven Spielberg's just looking at me, like,

581
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,319
who in the world is this horrible person? That's hilarious.

582
00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:29,519
But apparently I had enough of an impression on him

583
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,359
that he thought this will be the perfect guy for

584
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:37,039
the mysterious adult with the keys. Yes, because the first

585
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,319
half or more of the movie all you see is

586
00:29:40,359 --> 00:29:44,880
his crotch. That's true, he said. My ex girlfriend after

587
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,119
she saw the movie, She's like, I recognize you immediately.

588
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:54,960
That's hilarious. All right. Now, then the part of et Okay,

589
00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:58,079
it's a combination of a few people. Yeah, okay, one

590
00:29:58,119 --> 00:29:59,799
you've heard of and when you haven't heard of.

591
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: Probab, Well, it's more than that, because you've got voice,

592
00:30:03,119 --> 00:30:05,400
and you've got the body and hands and all that.

593
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it's fascinating. So the voice of Et

594
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,599
deva winger we know, recorded every line of ET's dialogue.

595
00:30:13,599 --> 00:30:15,640
She was a friend of Steven Spielberg. She had come

596
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,960
by to see how things were going. Devera winger has

597
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,279
this kind of deep, husky voice. Yeah, He's like, you

598
00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:22,640
know what, let's go ahead and let you record all

599
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,920
this voices of VT. Now. Also, they combined her with

600
00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:28,920
a woman named Pat Welsh. Right. Pat had been an

601
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,839
actress long time ago, like was in some old like fortiesties. Right. Yes,

602
00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:36,039
she spoke two packs a day and she was in

603
00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:40,279
the store when Ben Bert was there buying something. Ben Bert,

604
00:30:40,279 --> 00:30:43,880
who is the sound designer for every Star Wars and yes, everything,

605
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,799
He heard her talk and he's like, hmm, this lady

606
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,400
might be perfect for Et. Yeah, she had that a

607
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,880
little vice. She was paid three hundred and eighty dollars

608
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,440
a day to be ET's voice. Wow.

609
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:59,799
Speaker 3: So Et is usually an animatronic thing, right, because I

610
00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:03,039
then nobody has a neck that thin. And he said

611
00:31:03,079 --> 00:31:05,440
he didn't want it ever, anybody to ever think this

612
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,480
is a guy in a costume. Yes, yes, And so

613
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,799
in different scenes you have different folks inside the workings,

614
00:31:14,119 --> 00:31:16,759
there was a lady who wore gloves. She was like,

615
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,519
I just happened to have very long fingers, and so

616
00:31:19,559 --> 00:31:22,680
she became the perfect hands for ET. So what she'll

617
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,519
get a lot is her like laying on her back

618
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,759
and having her hands up doing the glove work next

619
00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:33,119
to the animatronic Et as like a million other guys,

620
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,720
Like there are literally dozens of guys doing all of

621
00:31:35,759 --> 00:31:38,960
the working processes for his eyes and his neck and

622
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,279
all of these other things. But his hands remain real.

623
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,039
They are gloved hands of this lady. But they also

624
00:31:45,319 --> 00:31:48,559
found a kid who had lost both of his legs,

625
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,359
and he also was in it, and he would he

626
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,680
would his hands which he used to get around. He

627
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,880
would walk with his hands went into the feet of ET.

628
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,119
So when you see Et getting drunk and he's like

629
00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:03,519
going through the kitchen and then suddenly just cook flat

630
00:32:03,559 --> 00:32:06,599
on his face, that is a little amputee kid who

631
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,640
played the part of Et in a costume.

632
00:32:08,759 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, that's awesome. All right. We mentioned before, but

633
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,880
there is a scene that you can see on YouTube

634
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,240
of Harrison Ford as Elliott's principal. You don't never see

635
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,599
his face, but his voice is clear as day, unmistakable,

636
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,400
and he's kind of balling him out for getting drunk

637
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:21,880
in school.

638
00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:26,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, I see you, fine young people from good homes,

639
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,400
every advantage, your whole life laid out in front.

640
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: Of him, and Elliot's like, I'm sorry, sir, it never happened. Again,

641
00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:36,000
that's Harrison Ford. Yeah.

642
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 3: At one point, Harrison Ford turns to look out the

643
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,839
window as he's talking to him, and suddenly Elliott's chair

644
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,160
like starts floating up to the ceiling, and of course

645
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,640
it's this beautifully timed thing where it comes back down

646
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,720
right as he turns back around, and Mary d Wallace

647
00:32:50,759 --> 00:32:52,200
comes in and they all leave it.

648
00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:55,359
Speaker 2: Two more people I want to mention see Thomas Howell

649
00:32:55,799 --> 00:32:57,000
plays Tyler.

650
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,279
Speaker 4: We made it.

651
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:01,759
Speaker 2: The Buddies, one of the Buddies, yep, this is his

652
00:33:01,839 --> 00:33:04,480
film debut. He then goes on and he does The

653
00:33:04,519 --> 00:33:08,359
Outsiders and one of my favorite movie Secret Admirer. That

654
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,920
part was also auditioned by Ralph Machu who they became

655
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,799
Buddies and the Outsiders. Yeah. I think they're still friends.

656
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:15,319
Speaker 6: Yeah.

657
00:33:15,319 --> 00:33:17,119
Speaker 2: But the one I really want to mention to you, yeah,

658
00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:20,359
is the pretty girl that Elliot kisses. Yeah, that is

659
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,079
miss Erica Alaniac. Yeah, if you've ever seen the movie

660
00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:27,680
under Siege or Baywatch or bay Watch or you know

661
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,359
some Playboys. I don't know what you're talking about there.

662
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,039
What is playboys? Some sort of books, right right right?

663
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,759
She goes on to become a Baywatch actress and she's

664
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,680
I mean, she was the babe in under Siege. Yeah,

665
00:33:41,759 --> 00:33:44,720
Google search, So that's going to do it for casting.

666
00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:47,920
For ET. Okay, let's talk twenty four to thirty six

667
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,759
movie posters. You have three of the best movie posters

668
00:33:51,759 --> 00:33:53,599
of the eighties. Without a doubt, I'm about to blow

669
00:33:53,599 --> 00:33:57,599
your mind brow. Okay. So for ET, our artist is

670
00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:01,200
John Alvin, who is very well known in the movie

671
00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:04,480
poster world. That's the way several years ago. But he's

672
00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:08,320
got the Star Wars reissue, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter,

673
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,480
a ton of old movies. His first movie poster that

674
00:34:11,519 --> 00:34:14,599
he did was because mel Brooks was unhappy with the

675
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,559
movie poster they did for Blazing Saddles, and so his

676
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:20,119
first movie poster was Blazing Saddles. I know what what

677
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:20,760
you're talking about.

678
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he also of course did Young Frankenstein

679
00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:27,079
because mel Brooks was he became his go to guy.

680
00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:30,440
So John Alvin is one of those huge names. He's

681
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,119
an icon in the movie poster industry, and so Stephen

682
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,639
Spielberg came to him with this idea for the poster

683
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:36,639
for ET.

684
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:37,119
Speaker 2: Now.

685
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:40,199
Speaker 3: ET has a few different types of posters that were

686
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,239
all familiar with. One of the most familiar is the

687
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,719
big moon with the silhouette of them on the bicycle

688
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:48,920
flying across.

689
00:34:49,079 --> 00:34:52,199
Speaker 2: You know, the scene from the movie Amblin logo, right, right, Yes,

690
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,599
that became the Ambulin logo years later when that company

691
00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:57,559
was formed, right yes, yes, But there's.

692
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 3: Another iconic poster where the two fingers are touching, where

693
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,320
you've got the little child's hand and the ET hand.

694
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,679
They've got that glowing it's that ouch moment, right, And

695
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,519
so that's the one that John Alvin did, and it

696
00:35:10,559 --> 00:35:13,519
was Spielberg's idea, and he said, Hey, I'm kind of

697
00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:16,880
looking for this Michelangelo creation.

698
00:35:16,599 --> 00:35:18,599
Speaker 2: Of Adam kind of thing. And if you look at it,

699
00:35:18,599 --> 00:35:20,559
that's what the hands are. Yeah, right, I see it.

700
00:35:20,599 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 3: And if you look at the little kid's hand, it's

701
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,400
far too little of a kid. That is not Henry

702
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,360
Thomas's hand. It's John Alvin's daughter who was six years

703
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,199
old at the time.

704
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,559
Speaker 2: Oh, that's awesome.

705
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he created that image at Spielberg's request to

706
00:35:36,599 --> 00:35:41,320
be a creation like image. I love it, which is

707
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,039
great because we'll talk about later on and how similar

708
00:35:44,119 --> 00:35:47,119
this is to some biblical stories that we're all familiar with.

709
00:35:47,199 --> 00:35:49,679
Speaker 2: There's some interesting parallels there to be made. Yeah, So

710
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,559
tell me about the Thing post. Okay, I'm gonna blow

711
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:54,000
your mind with this. Okay. So the Thing poster is

712
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,840
I think if there is one original piece of artwork

713
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,760
from the eighties, that iconic poster that I would take,

714
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,039
it's the Thing poster for me. That's it. Okay, Wow,

715
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,599
I just love it. It's one of those when you look

716
00:36:06,639 --> 00:36:09,719
at it, you're like, what is happening here? This snowman

717
00:36:10,039 --> 00:36:12,320
is something's happening to his face. It's like this bright,

718
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,360
shining thing. He doesn't have a face, and you're like, wow,

719
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:16,920
what is this? I have to know what's going on

720
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,880
in this movie. So it was made by Drew Strewsan

721
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:24,280
another icon who we absolutely adore. This guy has done everything,

722
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,840
I mean, Star Wars, Raiders Are the Lost Dark, He's

723
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,119
done a billion movie posters exactly. Okay, but he wasn't

724
00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:32,440
the original artist. So the original artist came up with

725
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,760
a poster that John Carpenter hated. Okay, and the studio

726
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,679
didn't like it, and so they called Drew Strewsan and

727
00:36:39,679 --> 00:36:42,119
they're like, hey, Drew, we need a movie poster. Are

728
00:36:42,199 --> 00:36:44,000
you busy right now? And he's like, no, I can

729
00:36:44,039 --> 00:36:46,360
do a movie poster for you. They're like, okay, because

730
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,519
we need it tomorrow. He did this in twenty four hours.

731
00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:52,679
Oh my gosh. So he's like, okay, great, what's the

732
00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:55,639
movie about? And they're like, ah, I'm not really sure.

733
00:36:57,079 --> 00:36:58,920
He's like, well, who's in it? And they're like, well,

734
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,039
we don't really know that much about it. He's like,

735
00:37:01,559 --> 00:37:03,360
how am I supposed to do a poster on it?

736
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,880
And they're like, well, we know it's a remake of

737
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,440
the Thing from Another World, the nineteen fifty one movie.

738
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,840
Well that's a big difference from what we get in

739
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,119
nineteen eighty two. Oh yeah for sure. So Drewstersan took

740
00:37:15,159 --> 00:37:17,480
that idea, this is a remake of the Thing from

741
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,199
Another World. He actually got in his ski gear, went outside,

742
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,480
his wife took the pictures of him in his ski

743
00:37:23,519 --> 00:37:26,480
gear until he found one that he liked. So drews

744
00:37:26,519 --> 00:37:29,480
drews En not only drew this poster in twenty four hours. Yeah,

745
00:37:29,519 --> 00:37:31,519
one of the most iconic posters of the eighties, but

746
00:37:31,559 --> 00:37:34,440
he's also starring in the poster. That's him. That's awesome.

747
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,400
All right, what do you got for me on Blade Runner? Okay?

748
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,480
So Blade Runner? They called up Drew Strewsan yes, and

749
00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:42,440
they said I want you to make a poster. Yes,

750
00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:44,760
but they weren't happy with it, and so they called

751
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:49,119
up John Alvin. Oh my gosh, and John Alvin did

752
00:37:49,159 --> 00:37:51,760
the poster in his John Alvin style. If you look

753
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,440
at Blazing Saddles or Harry Potter or any of you

754
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,199
know the hundreds of John Alvin where they've got all

755
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,800
those heads you know around, Yep, you look at the

756
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,039
Blade Runner poster, you're like, oh, same guy. Right, Okay,

757
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,679
So ladies and gentlemen listeners, you won't be able to

758
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,119
see what I'm about to show Jason right now, but

759
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,719
you're familiar with the old Blade Runner poster. Yes, I'm

760
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,400
gonna show you this one. Have you seen this before?

761
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:16,440
I have seen that one.

762
00:38:16,519 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 3: So this if you're listening, if you go to the

763
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,559
two thousand and seven final cut, there have been a

764
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:26,679
couple of different remakes of Blade Runner where they did

765
00:38:26,679 --> 00:38:29,360
a director's cut, and then in two thousand and seven

766
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,800
they did a final cut and they released it on DVD. Well,

767
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,960
at that time, Ridley Scott contacted Drew Strusan again and

768
00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:41,599
he said, Hey, I actually liked your poster better, but

769
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,880
the studio guys said they wanted to go with John

770
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,480
Alvin's poster. But I'm about to do this reissue. Can

771
00:38:47,519 --> 00:38:50,119
I use your poster instead? And so he had just

772
00:38:50,199 --> 00:38:52,880
had these base drawings that he had used, and they're

773
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,840
so similar. They're so similar in style because you've got

774
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,039
I mean, you've got Deckard as the big head there,

775
00:38:59,079 --> 00:39:02,880
but it's this collage of different faces from the movie.

776
00:39:03,079 --> 00:39:06,039
And so strews antickes his old artwork from nineteen eighty

777
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:10,239
two and creates the new poster for two thousand and

778
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:10,719
seven You.

779
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,119
Speaker 2: Follow Me Away. I love both of those posters. They

780
00:39:13,159 --> 00:39:17,599
are fantastic. They're both iconic. Hey, ET's got two iconic posters.

781
00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:20,760
Blade Runner has two. The Thing I think has one.

782
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,039
But they're all amazing. Yeah.

783
00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:26,559
Speaker 3: The other thing about the thing is that the font

784
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,119
for the thing, like in the posters that I've seen

785
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,480
usually you've got this kind of standard impact style font.

786
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,639
But there are also posters that have the kind of

787
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,880
jagged letters that you get from the opening credits of

788
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,679
the movie. And there's a great story about how they

789
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,519
came up with that particular thing, which we'll talk about

790
00:39:47,559 --> 00:39:50,320
when we do our special effects part of things. But

791
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,320
I have seen some posters that have it on there.

792
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,760
But what I like so much about the Thing poster

793
00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:58,920
is it's a mystery who that guy is, who that

794
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,119
snowsuit person is, which goes even though he didn't know

795
00:40:03,199 --> 00:40:05,800
what happened in the movie, he goes right along with

796
00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:09,719
the key element of the movie of we don't know

797
00:40:10,159 --> 00:40:11,800
who's the thing and who's not.

798
00:40:12,199 --> 00:40:13,159
Speaker 2: It could be anyone.

799
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, this bright shining light is a faceless man who

800
00:40:17,079 --> 00:40:19,679
could be my best friend or an alien who wants

801
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:20,119
to kill me.

802
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,519
Speaker 2: The person who made that poster did not know the

803
00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:25,159
plot of the movie and yet still nailed it. And

804
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:26,400
I just discovered this.

805
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,559
Speaker 3: I haven't seen it yet, but there is literally a

806
00:40:29,639 --> 00:40:33,119
ten minute video out there came out this same time

807
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:38,599
as the final cut two thousand and seven, called promoting Dystopia,

808
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,360
rendering the poster art featuring John Alvin and Drew Strews

809
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,920
in talking about creating the poster art for Blade Runner

810
00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:47,719
Past and.

811
00:40:47,679 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: Present, Love Love It, two of the best, And people

812
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,519
said these movies weren't connected. People said these movies weren't

813
00:40:54,519 --> 00:40:57,159
any good. Yeah, I know, man, I know. It's crazy.

814
00:40:57,679 --> 00:41:00,480
You gotta be a and kidding me to quote a

815
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:03,440
line from The Thing. Okay, I've got a few tidbits

816
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,679
before we get into the big questions. I love it.

817
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,079
Let's go, man, all right, So talking about the Thing,

818
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,599
Keith David broke his hand in a car accident the

819
00:41:12,679 --> 00:41:16,599
day before shooting began. Okay, so like the first half

820
00:41:16,599 --> 00:41:19,920
of the movie, he's always hiding his left hand. Huh.

821
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:24,239
They actually had to paint his cast his complexion for

822
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,760
certain scenes. Right, It's kind of like Lost Boys.

823
00:41:27,039 --> 00:41:30,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, where Keith for Sutherland breaks his hand on the

824
00:41:30,039 --> 00:41:33,679
motorcycle accident and then you see him he's just wearing yeah,

825
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,159
weird glove the whole time.

826
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: Okay. Carpenter calls the Thing part of his Apocalypse trilogy.

827
00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:44,719
You have the Thing, you have Prints of Darkness, and

828
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,239
you have in the Mouth of Madness. Okay, I haven't

829
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:47,960
seen those other two.

830
00:41:48,039 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 3: I have not seen those other two either. I've heard

831
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,000
they're good, but I haven't seen them.

832
00:41:51,079 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 2: Okay. One of the things they said was so difficult

833
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,559
about the shoot of the thing. They couldn't get any beer.

834
00:41:56,599 --> 00:41:59,360
What they couldn't get beer where they were? Okay, so

835
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,920
they're up in was it British Columbia? They were up

836
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,400
in Nowheresville, British Columbia. Right.

837
00:42:04,519 --> 00:42:07,639
Speaker 3: So they found their set by trying to find a

838
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:12,280
place that could pass for Antarctica, right, right, And so

839
00:42:12,519 --> 00:42:14,679
in Antarctica the only thing that you have are snow

840
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,760
and mountains, that's really about it. And so they found

841
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,039
that spot. But there was this tree in the middle

842
00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:22,719
of the set. And so what they did, the big

843
00:42:23,159 --> 00:42:25,880
tower that you see on the set that they built

844
00:42:26,199 --> 00:42:28,480
is the one thing that's covering that lone tree.

845
00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:29,159
Speaker 4: Is that right?

846
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:30,559
Speaker 2: I didn't know that that's good?

847
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 3: And so also that's interesting because you know they had

848
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:38,599
to have another set for the Swedes camp that they

849
00:42:38,639 --> 00:42:41,840
go and investigate, right, Yes, So what they did is

850
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,719
they filmed that scene at the end when they destroyed

851
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,920
the camp at the climax of the movie by blowing

852
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,840
everything up. They were left with a bunch of burnt rubble.

853
00:42:52,039 --> 00:42:54,280
Well that's what you see as the camp for the

854
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,400
Swedes in Norwegians or whatever they are.

855
00:42:57,119 --> 00:43:01,519
Speaker 2: They not Swedes creating the Norwegians. That's brilliant, that's brilliant.

856
00:43:01,559 --> 00:43:05,039
I did hear this that a couple of Thing superfans, Yeah,

857
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,960
went all the way to Stuart, British Columbia, in like

858
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,719
twenty eighteen and they found bits of the set still there.

859
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:12,320
That's awesome.

860
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,599
Speaker 3: They built it during the summertime and then just let

861
00:43:14,599 --> 00:43:17,440
the snow fall yep, which I mean that's a cheaper

862
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,400
way to go for sure, but they still even in that,

863
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,840
they still had to use fake snow for their blizzard scenes.

864
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: Yes, here's an interesting thing that they mentioned on the commentary.

865
00:43:25,079 --> 00:43:29,320
There are some underlying parallels regarding the ving and infection

866
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,480
and not knowing who has it and who to be

867
00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:36,519
afraid of, huh, and the AIDS virus Oh okay, which

868
00:43:36,639 --> 00:43:39,519
was happening. I mean they started shooting in eighty one

869
00:43:39,639 --> 00:43:42,400
and it was just sort of coming into awareness and

870
00:43:42,519 --> 00:43:44,400
people didn't really know how you got it, how it

871
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,960
was transmitted. They didn't know anything about it, right, but

872
00:43:47,079 --> 00:43:49,599
people were afraid of it. Kurt Russell's brother in law

873
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,000
was the Norwegian guy in the helicopter who kept trying

874
00:43:53,039 --> 00:43:55,239
to shoot the dog at the beginning. That was Kurt

875
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,000
Russell's brother in law. Okay, I think this is interesting.

876
00:43:58,079 --> 00:44:00,800
Windows can't reach anybody in the world world, right, so

877
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,679
he tries to get people on the radio. You talk

878
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,599
about the character Windows, the character Windows, Yeah, I got you, Yes, Yah.

879
00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:06,920
It wears the sunglasses all the time.

880
00:44:07,039 --> 00:44:07,159
Speaker 1: Yea.

881
00:44:07,639 --> 00:44:10,039
Speaker 2: When he tries to reach the outside world, he can't

882
00:44:10,039 --> 00:44:12,800
get any response back. Yeah. John Carpentras posed the theory

883
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,639
that maybe it's because one of the Norwegian team left

884
00:44:17,039 --> 00:44:20,800
infected and the entire world is now gone. Yeah, that's interesting.

885
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:21,960
It's kind of interesting to think about it.

886
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 3: So the end of the book that you know where

887
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,039
you watch the Skies thing, mm hmm, you get the

888
00:44:27,079 --> 00:44:31,760
albatross the for the spring thaw or whatever, the albatross.

889
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,960
They see it flying overhead and it's coming from the

890
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,840
same direction as the camp, which is probably where you

891
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,159
get that watch the Sky's line.

892
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 2: Interesting. Okay, cool, Okay, you want some tidbits on Blade Runner,

893
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,119
hit me all right. In nineteen sixty nine, there was

894
00:44:45,159 --> 00:44:48,119
a young upcoming director who was interested in directing The

895
00:44:48,119 --> 00:44:51,519
Blade Runner. Okay, you know who this is sixty nine. Yep,

896
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:56,400
no March Scorsese, okay, wanted to film Blade Runner. Okay.

897
00:44:56,519 --> 00:44:59,400
The final scene of Blade Runner is shot in a

898
00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:04,800
very prominent LA building. Yeah, the Bradbury, Right, it's the

899
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:09,239
Bradbury Building. Yeah. The screenwriters went to really Scott and said,

900
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,760
please do not film this in this building. Every TV

901
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,159
show known to man has been filmed in this building.

902
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,920
Oh yeah, and really Scott's like, he says, nobody has

903
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,000
filmed it the way I'm going to film it. Yeah,

904
00:45:21,039 --> 00:45:23,639
and you know what, he was right, he was right. Yeah,

905
00:45:23,679 --> 00:45:26,760
it looks completely different now you recognize it. It is

906
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,719
recognizable to Core and they, I mean they even have it.

907
00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:33,559
You see the Bradbury written on the top of the place. Yeah,

908
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:37,840
but I mean they're supposed to be in LA twenty nineteen, right, yeah,

909
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,760
but twenty nineteen. Yeah.

910
00:45:40,079 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 3: But the idea is is that it is decayed significantly.

911
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:48,719
It has become as cyberpunk as the rest of the

912
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:49,239
world is.

913
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I sent you a video. The Genesis Tonight Tonight

914
00:45:53,280 --> 00:46:07,800
Tonight video from the Invisible Touch album was shot in

915
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,159
the Bradberry Building. Nice. When you look at the video,

916
00:46:10,159 --> 00:46:12,400
I'm like, it was like Blade Runner Okay, I'm gonna

917
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,559
blow your mind with this. You're ready for this? Yeah, okay.

918
00:46:14,639 --> 00:46:18,159
So one of the most sought after props from the

919
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,440
eighties was Decord's pistol. Somebody actually stole it from the set. Okay,

920
00:46:22,679 --> 00:46:25,920
it was gone for thirty years and then cropped back

921
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:30,880
up for an auction. Okay, that pistol. It looks really cool,

922
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,239
but it was actually made from a rifle. Okay, I

923
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,639
can see that. Yeah, they built it out of the

924
00:46:36,679 --> 00:46:40,599
remnants of a rifle, which made it extremely heavy. Yeah,

925
00:46:40,639 --> 00:46:42,840
but it looks super cool. I love that gun.

926
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's big and bulky, but what you expect from

927
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,320
a future gun. That's cool. So did they find it?

928
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,480
What happened thirty years later?

929
00:46:50,559 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 2: It just appeared like they couldn't find the prop anymore.

930
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,719
It was gone, whoosh, whoosh, vanished, It grew little gun

931
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,840
legs and walked off. Somebody walked off with it, and

932
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,800
then it appeared like in twenty fifteen for a for

933
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,639
an auction. Let's talk about the company curse from Blade Runner.

934
00:47:07,639 --> 00:47:09,719
Have you heard about this? Well, I sent you.

935
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,039
Speaker 3: I noticed something as I was watching as he was

936
00:47:13,079 --> 00:47:15,679
going by, and when I saw the first sign, I

937
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,599
was like, oh man, these signs are all over the place,

938
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:21,400
but I saw a giant sign for Atari on there,

939
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,159
and then you hit me with this bit of info.

940
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 2: So these are all companies that are prominently shown in

941
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:32,079
the movie Blade Runner. Yeah, Atari, Yeah, RCA, Bell, Yeah,

942
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,840
Pan Am Hi Fi Yeah, Coca Cola, right, all of

943
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,199
all of those have failed. That's the curse part, except

944
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,000
for Coca Cola. Coke took a huge dive in nineteen

945
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,199
eighty five though, when they introduced New Coke and got

946
00:47:45,199 --> 00:47:48,000
their buzzkick for about a year before they came to

947
00:47:48,039 --> 00:47:50,679
their senses and recovered. And of course, what was the

948
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:57,360
game that killed Atari? It is that's exactly right. Okay,

949
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,320
I'm gonna blow your mind with this. Yeah, okay, ye

950
00:47:59,679 --> 00:48:02,239
stay with me on this now. Okay. So in the

951
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,519
movie Alien on the Nostromo, they use this bit of

952
00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:10,840
software that is also used in Blade Runner. Okay, okay, yeah,

953
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:15,679
it's in Harrison Ford's floating car. Okay, okay, same software program.

954
00:48:15,679 --> 00:48:17,480
You can actually see it's the same screen. So that

955
00:48:17,559 --> 00:48:21,159
means that really Scott's Alien and really Scott's Blade Runner

956
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,679
share universe. Okay, Okay with me so far, I'm with you. Now,

957
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,639
then we know that Alien and the Predator movies share universe.

958
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,519
Yeah they do. Now they do? Yeah, So that means Alien,

959
00:48:31,559 --> 00:48:34,679
Blade Runner, and Predator all share universe. Okay, okay, Now

960
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:41,639
then Terminator shares the universe with aliens. Okay, Cyberdine all right, right,

961
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,320
Cyberdyne yet is involved in the Alien universe. That means

962
00:48:45,519 --> 00:48:49,519
the Terminator, Alien, Blade Runner, Predator all share universe, and

963
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,559
the Abyss what the abyss is involved in it? They're

964
00:48:55,599 --> 00:49:00,599
all part of the same shared universe. Oh my gosh, directly,

965
00:49:00,599 --> 00:49:02,960
some indirectly. But I think that's really cool that when

966
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,840
I started putting those together, I'm like, holy God, that's

967
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,440
pretty neat. I like, a good job. Okay, you're gonna

968
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,199
have to trust me on this. But there is a

969
00:49:09,599 --> 00:49:12,800
city scape scene where if you change the lighting just

970
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,440
right and you put this in front of it, you

971
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,760
can see the Millennium Falcon as a building. Really, yes,

972
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,639
it is in the background and it's used as like

973
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,199
part of the city scape. Okay. One of the sort

974
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,559
of underlying themes of Blade Runner is that maybe all

975
00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:32,000
animals are extinct. Yeah, that's the way that the novel

976
00:49:32,079 --> 00:49:34,039
starts out, I believe is that I think one of

977
00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:37,599
the first animals to die off are the owls, which

978
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:41,840
is why the owl is important in Tyrrell's office building. Okay, well,

979
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:46,360
Harrison Ford actually, when he's questioning Zora, he asked her

980
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,000
if that's a real snake. Yeah, She's like crazy, I

981
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,360
can't afford a real snake, right, what are you talking about. Well,

982
00:49:52,519 --> 00:49:54,280
one of the interesting things that he gets, one of

983
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,320
those scales appears think and it's got like a code

984
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,119
on it. Yeah. Yeah, So when they zoom in the

985
00:50:00,199 --> 00:50:03,480
actual picture that is in the movie, yeah, is actually

986
00:50:03,559 --> 00:50:07,159
a zoomed in picture of a marijuana but oh really yeah, Okay,

987
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:08,800
it's not snake at all. Yeah. Yeah.

988
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,199
Speaker 3: I think that the idea is that the humanity that's

989
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,800
left on Earth are kind of the rejects, like everybody else,

990
00:50:16,039 --> 00:50:17,119
like all the pretty people.

991
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 2: You'll notice this.

992
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 3: Virtually all of the people on Earth in Blade Runner

993
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,440
are unattractive unless they're a replicant.

994
00:50:26,599 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about the big question about who exactly

995
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,599
are replicants and who are not replicants. That's gonna be

996
00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:35,400
in part three. Let's talk about the love scene for

997
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,639
just a second. Okay, say you love me? Say it? Again,

998
00:50:40,119 --> 00:50:44,920
mean it kind of it's very noir.

999
00:50:45,119 --> 00:50:48,199
Speaker 3: It's comfortable. Yeah, it's a little rough, it is, but

1000
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,119
you're right. It is also very noir type of thing.

1001
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,360
It is very Philip Marlowe, Raymond Chandler.

1002
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 2: It's something you might see in a movie from the forties,

1003
00:50:57,559 --> 00:51:02,800
you know, Humphrey, Billgert Yeah, okay, James Bond, yes, oh yeah, Goldfinger,

1004
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,840
My gosh, I thought this was interesting. Alan Ladd Junior

1005
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,679
actually chose the release date of Blade Runner, Okay. He

1006
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,960
chose June twenty fifth, nineteen eighty two, and he saw

1007
00:51:13,039 --> 00:51:17,079
twenty five as a lucky date, okay, because Star Wars

1008
00:51:17,119 --> 00:51:20,320
had been released on May twenty fifth. Right, An Alien

1009
00:51:20,679 --> 00:51:23,559
had been released on May twenty fifth. Uh huh, it

1010
00:51:23,599 --> 00:51:25,760
was not a lucky date for I mean in the

1011
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,559
long run, I guess sure, but definitely not as far

1012
00:51:28,599 --> 00:51:31,679
as the box office is concerned. Yeah, Philip K. Dick

1013
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,519
died before he got to see the entire movie.

1014
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he died in March. The movie didn't

1015
00:51:35,639 --> 00:51:38,159
come out until June, so yeah, he did not get

1016
00:51:38,159 --> 00:51:39,199
to see the final product.

1017
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 2: He did get to see one shot that they showed

1018
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:46,400
him of the World of la In twenty nineteen. Yeah,

1019
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,719
he felt like somebody had like come into his brain

1020
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,239
and extracted the image.

1021
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 3: David Wright was talking to us about this earlier today,

1022
00:51:53,679 --> 00:51:58,119
about how cyberpunk this world is and the way that

1023
00:51:58,159 --> 00:52:03,159
they took the fashion of cyberpunk and created an entire

1024
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:07,719
city scape that embodied that style is amazing. It is

1025
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:15,000
a flawlessly executed, beautiful, dirty, grimy futuristic scene.

1026
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 2: It is incredible, and it's all practical effects. Yeah, no,

1027
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:24,400
CGI hope it looks amazing. Yeah. In fact, they shot

1028
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,599
it I think on the Universal Lot and they did

1029
00:52:27,639 --> 00:52:30,159
it and it's like one block of the Universal Lot

1030
00:52:30,679 --> 00:52:32,920
and really, Scott's like, I don't know if this is

1031
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,039
going to be big enough. They were just very careful

1032
00:52:36,039 --> 00:52:38,760
at how they shot it, and so it looks huge. Yeah,

1033
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,039
but it's just one block. Okay, tidbits free t hit

1034
00:52:42,119 --> 00:52:44,480
me all right. I thought this was really cool. Et

1035
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,800
was shot in chronological order, Okay, that was done on

1036
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,079
purpose so that it would help the kid's performance. And

1037
00:52:51,159 --> 00:52:54,719
the kid's performance is incredible. We already said that before.

1038
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,119
But yeah, it's amazing.

1039
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,199
Speaker 3: Well, there's one scene that they did shoot out of

1040
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,440
sequence that they wanted to get over early. I think

1041
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,559
we may have talked about it that first shot.

1042
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, the kiss, the kiss, Let's get that. Steven Spielberg

1043
00:53:07,199 --> 00:53:10,480
wanted the kiss done. Yeah, okay, we did talk before

1044
00:53:10,519 --> 00:53:13,320
about how Steven Spielberg worked on both Et and Poldergeist

1045
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:18,320
at the same time. Officially, Poultrygeist's director is Toby Hooper. Yeah,

1046
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,280
but there's a lot of people who said Steven Spielberg

1047
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:26,159
really directed that movie. In the closet scene in ET, yeah,

1048
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,320
I say that. There's multiple closet scenes. Are you talking

1049
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,960
about the one with Dee Wallace? When Dee Wallace opens

1050
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,320
the door to the closet and there's nothing but stuffed animals.

1051
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:39,480
The camera pans and there's ET's deadpan face, and the

1052
00:53:39,519 --> 00:53:43,199
whole audience is like, Oh, there's Et, and she doesn't notice.

1053
00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:46,239
She grabs a shirt or whatever off of the closer

1054
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,079
rac That was Robert Smecchus's idea. That was his gag.

1055
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,000
That's lovely. Oh, that's great, super funny. Do you know

1056
00:53:52,119 --> 00:53:56,199
that Corey Feldman was supposed to be one of Elliot's buddies. Well,

1057
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,599
as they started working, it turns out they didn't need

1058
00:53:58,639 --> 00:54:01,159
that buddy. They had everything they needed, so they had

1059
00:54:01,159 --> 00:54:04,480
to chop that character. Well, Steven Spielberg felt bad about that,

1060
00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:07,440
and that's why he is in Crevalins. Nice. One of

1061
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,400
the scenes that we'll talk about next week, I'm sure

1062
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,840
when we have reaction is the like the Trioche scene

1063
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:17,039
with Et. Yeah, those are real doctors. I noticed that.

1064
00:54:17,199 --> 00:54:18,960
I was looking through the cast and I was like,

1065
00:54:19,039 --> 00:54:21,159
oh my gosh, these guys are mds. Some of them

1066
00:54:21,199 --> 00:54:23,519
are mds. And then there's also a PhD in there

1067
00:54:23,559 --> 00:54:26,480
as well. Yeah, Steven Spielberg just said, hey, treat him

1068
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,760
like you would treat any other patient in the emergency room. Okay,

1069
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,840
he's flatlining, what do you do? Go for it? And

1070
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,400
that's why you have that real feel of its you know,

1071
00:54:34,519 --> 00:54:39,800
actual doctors. Great. Yeah, the communicator that Et builds two

1072
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:44,400
phone home, yes, with the speaking spell and the bus

1073
00:54:44,639 --> 00:54:48,199
chainsaw blade yeah, or that's right, the circular saw blade

1074
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:54,559
that actually worked. They contacted aliens, yes, and that's how

1075
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:59,199
the ship came. I mean, how else are you gonna

1076
00:54:59,199 --> 00:55:02,000
film a space if you don't contact the aliens first.

1077
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:07,719
That's how they got in at the actually worked. It

1078
00:55:08,119 --> 00:55:13,000
gave me actually works. It was a working transmitter. Okay,

1079
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,760
it worked as a transmitter like a radio. Yes, okay,

1080
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,159
all right, it's speaking spelled out into space. I'm telling

1081
00:55:20,199 --> 00:55:23,880
you I'm not speaking a spell expert. But apparently phoned home.

1082
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:33,480
It phoned somebody. Okay, all right, let's talk about the

1083
00:55:33,639 --> 00:55:39,679
huge mistake that Mars company made when it denied Eminem's

1084
00:55:40,199 --> 00:55:43,960
to be used as the candy in et. Man, that

1085
00:55:44,599 --> 00:55:46,719
was that guy should have gotten fired. They thought he

1086
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,519
was too scary for kids. Oh man, I can see

1087
00:55:50,519 --> 00:55:53,679
that decision being made, like as as you know, somebody

1088
00:55:53,679 --> 00:55:56,719
who works in a corporate atmosphere, you know, you're just like, oh,

1089
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,719
I don't know, do we really want to associate ourselves

1090
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,400
with this thing? Is it really gonna get I mean,

1091
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,599
it's not like the Eminem's you know, went under Yeah,

1092
00:56:05,679 --> 00:56:09,119
I mean they're still obviously very successful. But I had

1093
00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:13,480
some the Reese's Pieces sales I mean went through the roof. Yeah.

1094
00:56:13,639 --> 00:56:16,079
Was it even a candy before it was? It was

1095
00:56:16,119 --> 00:56:18,159
like a new candy, Like he was just on the

1096
00:56:18,199 --> 00:56:20,880
market and they said, well, you know, call races and

1097
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,159
see if they've got anything. Hey, we got this new

1098
00:56:23,199 --> 00:56:25,760
thing called we call Reese's Pieces. I know what I

1099
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,679
bought when I went to the store in nineteen eighty two.

1100
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,880
Heck yeah, I still get them with my popcorn and

1101
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,880
the movies to this day. There you go. You know,

1102
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,400
in the novelization of ET, it's still Eminem's interesting. Yep.

1103
00:56:35,639 --> 00:56:38,280
And it didn't start product placement. There's like this urban

1104
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:42,320
legend that that's when product placement started. But I mean,

1105
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,280
I think no. We talked about it in our Jabs

1106
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,519
episode of the Coca Cola signs. See you around there, Superman.

1107
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,239
It's seven years before at least, yes, so really quickly.

1108
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,000
Spielberg has mentioned that he's actually a plant, like a

1109
00:56:55,039 --> 00:56:55,639
plant being.

1110
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 3: I don't think that means that he's like vegetable matter,

1111
00:57:01,119 --> 00:57:04,800
like the thing from another world. What he's talking about

1112
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,159
is that he is like a botany guy, but he's

1113
00:57:09,199 --> 00:57:13,440
he's like a low level like he's the grunt who

1114
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,559
you send out to go pick up some flowers so

1115
00:57:16,599 --> 00:57:19,159
that you so that the scientists, the real brains, can

1116
00:57:19,199 --> 00:57:21,800
study him. So that's what the Ets are doing at

1117
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,719
the beginning of the movie, is there are all these

1118
00:57:24,119 --> 00:57:28,639
grunts out there collecting specimens for the smarter aliens who

1119
00:57:28,679 --> 00:57:29,280
are back home.

1120
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 2: Okay, well that's interesting because I heard him say that

1121
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:37,000
in reference to like his heartlight. Okay, and they wanted

1122
00:57:37,039 --> 00:57:40,440
it to look more plant like than you could see

1123
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,159
what the inner workings of his chest. Yeah, because you

1124
00:57:43,159 --> 00:57:43,599
don't want to.

1125
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 3: I mean, you don't want to have the eminems be

1126
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,119
scared away, right, I mean, we don't want this to

1127
00:57:48,159 --> 00:57:50,280
be terrifying. You don't want this to be you know,

1128
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,199
oh my gosh, we can see the glowing innards of

1129
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,360
the alien. It just needs to be something simpler, like

1130
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:58,199
a vegetable, I guess.

1131
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, Hey, that heartlight was actually genius on

1132
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,760
Spielberg's part. It works like the dorsal fin in Jaws

1133
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,360
at the beginning of the movie. We still haven't got

1134
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,639
a good look at et, but his little red light

1135
00:58:12,039 --> 00:58:14,000
right comes on and we can track him. We see

1136
00:58:14,039 --> 00:58:15,920
where he's going, we see what's happening. It's got a

1137
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:20,000
good dimmer switch. Yeah, it's like the world's worst evolutionary

1138
00:58:21,159 --> 00:58:24,320
thing for a being who gets scared is trying to

1139
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,000
hide and his light comes on. This is not quite

1140
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:34,239
an ocular emission. It's an involuntary light emission. I'm threatened

1141
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:39,079
and I'm scared here. I am by the way, you

1142
00:58:39,239 --> 00:58:41,320
heard Neil Diamond's song Heartlight.

1143
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:48,199
Speaker 6: Might say, turn on your hot light.

1144
00:58:50,039 --> 00:58:51,559
Speaker 2: Let it shine wherever.

1145
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 6: Let you go, Let it big, happy glow for all

1146
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:02,920
the world to see.

1147
00:59:03,159 --> 00:59:06,199
Speaker 2: Do you ever wonder where that song came from? You're kidding? No,

1148
00:59:06,679 --> 00:59:10,039
I am not. You are kidding. No, it came from

1149
00:59:10,119 --> 00:59:13,840
E T E T. Okay, you just ruled my mind

1150
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,199
right there, my friend, leave my mind? All right? Well,

1151
00:59:17,239 --> 00:59:19,559
I think that does it for this episode. Okay, d

1152
00:59:19,679 --> 00:59:21,880
We've got a surely showcase this week from our buddies

1153
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,599
over at the All Eighties Podcast.

1154
00:59:23,719 --> 00:59:26,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is Bill Band and Jason Massek, who do

1155
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,159
a fantastic podcast over there. They are weighing in on

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their opinion of et versus The Thing versus Blade Runner.

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Let's hear what they have to say.

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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, it's Jason and Bill here from the All

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Eighties Movies Podcast. First off, we would like to thank

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you fine gentlemen, Dan, Jason, and surely you can't be

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serious for asking us to weigh in on this discussion.

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It is an honor as Bill and I are both

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big fans of what you do and how you do it.

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So we've been charged with the unenviable task of hitting

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these early eighties classics against one another. Well, let's get

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right into it, build bands and start with ET the

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Extra Terrestrial. And you know what, I was trying to

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think of one word that would capture the essence of

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each of these three great iconic films. For ET, I

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chose the word wonderment. I was eight years old, right

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in the midst of the phenomenon known as Star Wars,

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so when ET was released, I was already all about

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that SI five. It delivered. It's what Spielberg does best.

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It captures the essence of the small town atmosphere during

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this particular time period, and it's told through the childlike lens,

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this view of wide eyed wonderment and discovery, friendship, adventure.

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And of course, for me, a huge ingredient in this

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film is the unforgettable John Williams score. It's a character

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into itself. We have the iconic flying bicycle sequence, ET

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Phone home, I left, I cried, There's some scary moments.

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Even the bottom line is I left the theater having

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felt true escapism and entertainment. And I was a sap

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then and I am still a sap now. For the

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saccharin spield early, I'll never ever tie that. Just give

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me more moving on to the thing. The word I've

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chosen is infectious. Bill Batt. This movie has Kurt Russell,

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who is Craig Harry and always takes the story to

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the next level. This movie has Keith David, which means

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it has to be good, right yeah, hell yeah Keith David.

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This movie has incredible visual effects by Rob Botten that

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mostly hold up today, but at its essence, really it's

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it's about the tension, the building up of tension, the

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pacing of this film. It really taps into the darkness

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of my imagination. What I love about this movie is

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that it makes me ask the question what if? Meaning

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what would I do if I were in the situation.

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There's the iconic Petri dish scene. I love this Ennio

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Morricone score, and it has one of the best endings

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of all time. Bill Bann. It's down to two survivors

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and one may be infected with the alien virus. But

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which one will we find out?

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Speaker 2: Nope?

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Speaker 4: Cut to black and that's how you do a cliffhanger. Now, last,

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but not least, we have Blade Rudder and the word

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I've chosen to encapsulate this iconic film is immersion. Once

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I enter this world I'm in, and once this movie

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is finished, it takes me a while to separate myself

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from it because it is a totally immersive experience. It's

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an assault on its senses in the best possible way.

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This is a dystopian future that's lived in it's dark.

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It captures a real, real, distinct feeling. It's a hard

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boil to film noir, which I'm a sucker for. I

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don't know what a blade Runner is, a replicant, is

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a Nexus six model, I don't care. I'm fascinated at

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the setting, the landscape, the architecture, the overall designed the

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flying cars. This entire film is stunning. And at the end,

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it's about that Phinalee between Rip Deckerd and Roy Baddie,

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and you've got Harrison Ford staring at Rutner Hower like

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as if it were his own, facing his own mortality

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and well maybe possibly knowing what he is himself, depending

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on your interpretation of the movie. Now for my judgment,

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et We'll always have my heart and take care of

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the child inside me. The thing if it's on television,

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Phil Man, I gotta watch this movie because of its gripping,

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nail biting tension, but ultimately Blade Runner is the winner

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because of its lasting impact on cinema and this genre

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of filmmaking.

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Speaker 7: Jason, great pick. I couldn't sum up those movies any

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better myself. So for my pick, the family Man or a.

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Speaker 2: Child in Me.

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Speaker 7: Of course he's going to go with et the film nerd,

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film buff, filmmaker. Hit me of course is going Blade Runner.

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But if you give me a bucket of popcorn, a

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nice comfy couch, I'm popping the thing on and I'm

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watching that one. I'm picking the thing.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Surely you can't be serious, Dan, Jason, thanks for letting

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us talk about these great movies.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, they're kind of hedging their beds a little bit.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like they're picking all of them. I think,

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if I got it right, I think that Jason is

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picking Blade Runner and Bill is picking the Thing. Although

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basically they all they picked all of the movies, which.

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Speaker 2: You can't go wrong. You can't why this is a

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hard joint. They're all awesome. Thank you guys for weighing

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in on your final judgment. If you want to go

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over there and check out their podcast, they run an

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excellent podcast, All Eighties Movies Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Okay, guys, that does it for Part two. Be sure

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to come back next week.

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Speaker 2: Next week, we're gonna talk about the big questions we're

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gonna ask ourselves. Is Decker a replicant? Is E T

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a Jedi? Is is E T Jedi? E Ta Jedi? Boy?

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You got it? That's it? You had me there? Say

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anything else? Coming back? Well, come back next week. We're

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gonna ask the big questions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, is Child's the thing? Or is mccreedy the thing?

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Or are they both a thing? I think that's where

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you're gonna go with all that. That's where I was saying,

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is E T a Jedi?

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Speaker 2: That? I mean, that's a teaser enough for anybody.

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Speaker 6: I think.

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Speaker 2: Hey, let's go part three next week, guys,