Speaker 1: The weird things happened in the Weird, Weird Weird. Welcome everybody, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's that baby?
Speaker 3: Welcome to the episode. I don't know the title of
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Speaker 1: Take it away, Alan you Jenny had a great idea
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Speaker 3: Well are you really?
Speaker 1: Yes, Jenny's idea for the episode was doing it a
Speaker 1: little different this time, and instead of just saying heretic,
Speaker 1: we say something like a twenty four is heretic analysis.
Speaker 3: Something I like that. We're gonna analyze.
Speaker 4: We're gonna analyze the heretic, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: We're gonna do something a little different. Before that, though, yes,
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Speaker 2: all right. I hear Alan over there has some juicy
Speaker 2: stories that he'd like to tell.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's correct. So I just kind of want to
Speaker 3: start it like at the beginning. Right. Since coming back
Speaker 3: from Bigfoot and even kind of before then, I've been
Speaker 3: personally in a lull, like we're a dry patch as
Speaker 3: far as activity on my own, like buy myself off
Speaker 3: seeing things now Granted, I'm not really trying that hard.
Speaker 3: Like it's dog walks, it's taking the trash out, it's
Speaker 3: you know, I'm outside at night now more because it's
Speaker 3: getting darker earlier. So I say, you know all of this, right,
Speaker 3: I haven't had these experiences in a while. So today
Speaker 3: nothing super special, no super while the feelings one way
Speaker 3: or another. I've been feeling really stressed, really busy because
Speaker 3: of all the things going on, and then the holidays
Speaker 3: being next week and I have company coming in so
Speaker 3: we're like scrambling to get the house ready. And I
Speaker 3: say that are.
Speaker 2: Hosting Thanksgiving at your place?
Speaker 3: No, we're having one of my cousins is coming to
Speaker 3: stay with me all week starting Saturday.
Speaker 1: There's going to be like twenty or thirty people in
Speaker 1: town for this Thanksgiving, for the big event, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: have twenty five first cousins. Honestly, how many people are
Speaker 1: going to be in town for the mean?
Speaker 3: I would say the rough estimate would be between fifty
Speaker 3: sixty thirty and forty.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a lot of people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the biggest we had was fifty fifty one.
Speaker 2: I think the biggest Our Thanksgiving ever, guy is maybe
Speaker 2: maybe thirty thirty five tops.
Speaker 1: Still a lot.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, sure, but that was.
Speaker 2: When we used to like we used to reserve this
Speaker 2: little rec center building to do it.
Speaker 3: But sorry, no, you're totally good. So I say that
Speaker 3: to say this right. My dog had just got done
Speaker 3: eating her dinner, and I'm downstairs and downstairs is like
Speaker 3: my office man cave area. It's my whole apartment into
Speaker 3: one room when we moved into this house. So she's
Speaker 3: whining at me, she's got to go out. I'm cleaning,
Speaker 3: like I have a couple of minutes in between work
Speaker 3: and podcasts, so I'm like cleaning my office and I'm
Speaker 3: ignoring her, like I'm telling her like I hear you,
Speaker 3: and it's not like me, like I don't like to
Speaker 3: make her wait, right because she's got to go. So
Speaker 3: she's whining. I'm like, I hear you. I'm cleaning up,
Speaker 3: sorting things to make my next trip upstairs like worth it, right,
Speaker 3: And then I take her out and I take her
Speaker 3: outside and immediately look up to this one part of
Speaker 3: the sky and I'm like, damn, that star is really
Speaker 3: bright and then I'm like it that's moving, and I
Speaker 3: stop walking to be sure sure enough it's moving. And
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, no way, Like I delayed her wanting
Speaker 3: to go out, walked right out, looked right up in
Speaker 3: like the first thing that I saw, like there's it's
Speaker 3: a clear night or it was an hour ago, so
Speaker 3: it's clear. A bunch of stars. But the first one
Speaker 3: I locked in on bright, like planet bright and moving white. Yeah, white. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So that's what you asked, right, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm like, holy crap, right, so I stop stop her
Speaker 3: watching this thing move. I lock into it. It's moving
Speaker 3: and then it goes duller like it's like okay, you
Speaker 3: see me. I'm and it gets duller and then keep
Speaker 3: going and then just vanishes. And I'm like sick, that's
Speaker 3: so cool, like thank you, and I walk fifteen twenty
Speaker 3: more feet. I look up. There's another one. I'm like,
Speaker 3: what in the world, right, So this one is going
Speaker 3: and the dog's pulling me, and I see this as
Speaker 3: it was a little duller, right, and this one kind
Speaker 3: of like had like a red or amber to it,
Speaker 3: and it's moving. It's moving, and the way we're going
Speaker 3: is it's about to go into some trees. So I
Speaker 3: take the dog around the trees, like down on our
Speaker 3: path where we walk and I catch up to it
Speaker 3: and I see it and it's going and it like
Speaker 3: moves and moves and moves, and then it stops moving
Speaker 3: and it gets really dim, but it stays there. And
Speaker 3: it stayed there and it stayed there, and I'm like
Speaker 3: looking at it, I'm like, man, like, by now, it
Speaker 3: should have faded out or moved away or done something different.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, that's weird. So I'm looking at that
Speaker 3: and I'm like, well, maybe that's a sign. And I
Speaker 3: look up and there's a third one.
Speaker 2: Oh at the same time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this one's over here. And then I look
Speaker 3: straight up in the air and I the third one
Speaker 3: and this one's like moving right, and then this one
Speaker 3: gets brighter and then does like a U turn almost
Speaker 3: right and then fades out. So then I was like, wow,
Speaker 3: like three in a row like that, Like this is crazy,
Speaker 3: this is like this is a lot of activity for
Speaker 3: me by myself. Yeah, So I text you guys, right,
Speaker 3: text you, oh gosh, three orbs right now, like I
Speaker 3: want to talk about this, right, I look up fourth,
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh wow, what right? So fourth? And what
Speaker 3: did the fourth one do? The fourth one, I think
Speaker 3: was an amber one again, and this one just went
Speaker 3: across the sky and pretty pretty like classic just went
Speaker 3: across the sky and then faded out. And I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: that's wild, like right when I text them, And so
Speaker 3: then we walk up. I walk, I continue on our path,
Speaker 3: like our path is a big loop, and I'm continuing
Speaker 3: with the dog and I look up and there was
Speaker 3: this green one. It was like t like blue green,
Speaker 3: and it is flying like moving way faster, and I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: five right, just like that, like going across the sky.
Speaker 3: And I'm looking over here. Here's a plane, right obvious
Speaker 3: plane moving way slower than whatever.
Speaker 1: This green thing is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that just is going.
Speaker 3: And then this one like gets really dull and makes
Speaker 3: me think it's disappearing, and then it'll like pop right
Speaker 3: back out and keep going, and then it does it again.
Speaker 3: It did it three times, oh my god, where it
Speaker 3: like almost disappeared and then was like I'm back, yeah
Speaker 3: it was. And then that one finally disappeared, and I
Speaker 3: was like man, And then I texted you guys again,
Speaker 3: five right, And I'm texting and walking and walking, and
Speaker 3: then I look up and six like wow, just like that,
Speaker 3: and the six was going away from me, and that
Speaker 3: one was I think a little shorter, and this one
Speaker 3: was white and it was like flying away from me,
Speaker 3: and I kind of caught the tail end of it.
Speaker 3: It was a little duller and it just kind of
Speaker 3: like went and faded away. But like, damn, like six
Speaker 3: back to back to back to back to back, go inside,
Speaker 3: come back outside, forget something in my car. The sky's
Speaker 3: completely changed, like way less stars visible, walk outside, stand
Speaker 3: there for a good five minutes nothing.
Speaker 5: WHOA.
Speaker 3: So if it were like you know, asteroids or a
Speaker 3: series of satellites or maybe just the visibility was really
Speaker 3: good and you could see these satellites like it would
Speaker 3: just like in a moment, completely different right and way
Speaker 3: less stars, a little bit of clouds, but like the
Speaker 3: visibility just tanked. And then I went back out again
Speaker 3: a little bit later because I was a little late
Speaker 3: to being here, and same thing, like clouds completely moved
Speaker 3: in like it was all over. And then I got
Speaker 3: here and it's clear skies again. So I was like
Speaker 3: the whole thing was pretty wild.
Speaker 2: Did you get any kind of like did you get
Speaker 2: any like feelings or thoughts or anything while you were
Speaker 2: like seeing all of this of like what maybe like,
Speaker 2: did you have any interpretation of what it meant for you,
Speaker 2: because obviously you seeing that much activity in that short
Speaker 2: a time feels to me like a message for you
Speaker 2: or a sign for you or something like that.
Speaker 3: That's a great question.
Speaker 2: I was just curious you might not if you didn't
Speaker 2: feel anything or think anything, then I'm just curious.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm out loud saying thank you after everyone, so
Speaker 3: six times thank you. And it was the interesting part
Speaker 3: to me was the correlation between like texting you guys
Speaker 3: in the group chat and then seeing them immediately again.
Speaker 3: So all of it was very The feeling was very
Speaker 3: validating as to like what we're doing, because what they
Speaker 3: don't know is like, this is day three for us,
Speaker 3: and day three in a row of showing up doing content.
Speaker 3: And it's not that it's like it's not that it's like, man,
Speaker 3: I'm dreading coming to work because it's not that, right,
Speaker 3: I really enjoy this, but it is like it's a lot, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: to work, for sure, work all day long and then
Speaker 3: come home and then have about forty five minutes shower,
Speaker 3: get right back in the car and head right over here. Yeah,
Speaker 3: three days in a row, right, And that's a lot,
Speaker 3: and so it was all very like validating, especially with
Speaker 3: you know what we just talked about the ten dollars
Speaker 3: patreons here that's in this moment when we're recording this,
Speaker 3: not out yet, Yes, like all of this stuff is
Speaker 3: like we're at like the jump off point for all
Speaker 3: of these things happening that we're talking about.
Speaker 1: We're about to leave the atmosphere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, So all very validating, And those are the
Speaker 3: kind of feelings that I'm feeling. To answer your question, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I love.
Speaker 1: That I have some input to that.
Speaker 3: Also.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you recall, because you were out
Speaker 1: there like kind of you know, in the moment looking
Speaker 1: but literally like two minutes before you texted us, I
Speaker 1: walked outside to get my trash cans from the street
Speaker 1: and bring them to the house. And every time I
Speaker 1: go outside, I look up, and whether I see anything
Speaker 1: or not, I just admire the sky and I'm like, wow.
Speaker 3: It's so beautiful.
Speaker 1: Cause I've only lived here since May, and you know,
Speaker 1: I lived in apartments for like from twenty seventeen till
Speaker 1: May of this year, so what seven years basically, and
Speaker 1: the sky was not the same. I mean, you have
Speaker 1: all these apartment buildings around much darker. Oh, it's so
Speaker 1: much darker. It's more, you know, more sky. I have
Speaker 1: a three sixty degree basic you know, view of the sky.
Speaker 1: So every time I walk outside and night, I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: it looks so beautiful. Sometimes I'll see stuff, sometimes I don't.
Speaker 1: But I walked out tonight and I just felt so grateful.
Speaker 1: I looked up at the sky and I was like wow.
Speaker 1: And I walked inside and I told Jenny. I was like, Jenny,
Speaker 1: I just had like such a moment. I literally said this.
Speaker 1: I never say this. I was like, Jenny, I just
Speaker 1: had such a moment of gratitude when I was out there,
Speaker 1: like looking up at the sky. I just feel like
Speaker 1: I'm finally I said, things feel like they're finally going
Speaker 1: well for me. And then boom, you texted. Just saw
Speaker 1: three orbs white, red and blue or whatever colors you said.
Speaker 1: And then you were like another one, so another one,
Speaker 1: so another one. So I thought the timing of that
Speaker 1: was crazy. That I went outside, I had that moment
Speaker 1: of gratitude. I didn't see anything, though, but I was
Speaker 1: thinking I would like to see something. It's okay, you know,
Speaker 1: And then you saw something so like we were basically
Speaker 1: out at the same moment, connecting with the sky. I
Speaker 1: went inside and you stayed outside. So I thought that
Speaker 1: was interesting. And then the second thing that I wanted
Speaker 1: to say, Nick's not aware of this, because he's you know,
Speaker 1: obviously not There are a time we record full disclosure,
Speaker 1: but I think it was two or three weeks ago
Speaker 1: when we recorded. We did an episode where I was
Speaker 1: explaining how I've been in a rut myself because you know,
Speaker 1: we have these events like Riverfest happen or Azella Fest
Speaker 1: or whatever, and they're these huge highs and we see
Speaker 1: all this stuff and then you know, I come home
Speaker 1: in for three weeks, I wasn't seeing anything. Plus I
Speaker 1: was going through something that was, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: draining on me mentally for a few weeks, and I
Speaker 1: just I was just in such a low point, like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing anything. So we did a whole full
Speaker 1: disclosure episode about it. And then I saw something when
Speaker 1: I was out walking by myself, like a day or
Speaker 1: two after. I had a conversation with Jenny about like
Speaker 1: I feel like I lost my mojo. I was like,
Speaker 1: I feel like I don't have the connection right now,
Speaker 1: like I was just explaining to her how I felt,
Speaker 1: and then it was like two days later I saw
Speaker 1: stuff out, you know, in the neighborhood. So you were
Speaker 1: having one of those moments you just said you were
Speaker 1: at a low point and it's been a few weeks
Speaker 1: and you haven't seen anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, low point And just to clarify, low point in
Speaker 3: activity not necessarily a low point personally. Yeah, but I
Speaker 3: mean almost like makes me feel like there's no difference though,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, I.
Speaker 1: Think there is a correlation to Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, but I'm not, like I'm not down
Speaker 3: in the dumps, and i haven't been down on the dumps.
Speaker 3: I've just been like busy, like and I really enjoy
Speaker 3: being busy. So that's you know, it's it's interesting. But
Speaker 3: like when your.
Speaker 2: Wall to wall with.
Speaker 3: The material, so like job, like podcast is a job, right,
Speaker 3: so working working, working, working, And I mean lately I've
Speaker 3: been waking up super early to get these episodes done
Speaker 3: so that my evening is more free. So I've been
Speaker 3: feeling like, honestly, and not not to joke about it,
Speaker 3: I've been feeling really locked in materially, like in the
Speaker 3: worldly sense, like I'm locked in right, just getting shit done,
Speaker 3: which leads to a lack of spiritual connection, you know,
Speaker 3: and it's not on purpose, right, and it's not and
Speaker 3: maybe it's not that my well, you know, I'm not
Speaker 3: I'm not like deviating from the path.
Speaker 2: Your focus is just shifted.
Speaker 3: The focus has shifted. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so so you
Speaker 3: know your energy goes, your energy flows where your attention goes,
Speaker 3: that kind of thing. So yeah, I guess in a way,
Speaker 3: you're right. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting that you guys had such similar experiences
Speaker 2: and then had a moment at the same time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm trying to like, I'm trying to figure
Speaker 3: that out.
Speaker 1: Even though I didn't have a sighting, I definitely felt
Speaker 1: something right, just a strange feeling of gratitude. I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: I'm really grateful right now just to be looking at
Speaker 1: the sky.
Speaker 3: Well, it makes me think of like when your dad
Speaker 3: talks about what the Bible says, we're two or more gathered.
Speaker 3: I'm here right. You know, we weren't together.
Speaker 1: We were I had no clue, was out.
Speaker 3: Seven miles apart, having no clue. We were outside, but
Speaker 3: we tapped into that. It's wild because I didn't I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't tap into that. I walked out. I walked outside,
Speaker 3: and it said, hey, I'm right here, like and and
Speaker 3: I could have looked any direction walking outside. But I'm
Speaker 3: not joking when I tell you I walked out, I
Speaker 3: looked up at the brightest thing I could see in
Speaker 3: the sky right then, and it started moving. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: Also, I have to mention, how crazy was it that
Speaker 1: the other day you came in wearing your Pluto jacket
Speaker 1: that it got in Disney World, and that was the
Speaker 1: day that Pluto shifted into aquarium.
Speaker 2: I didn't even realize that that was that day. I
Speaker 2: didn't even realize it. But yeah, just like jacket, it's
Speaker 2: just a big joke.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: It's just it's so funny how things line up so syncretistically.
Speaker 3: I had a this is so off topic but super
Speaker 3: wild that's how life works moment. So, uh, We're working
Speaker 3: on this boat and the boat's on a trailer and
Speaker 3: there's these little bolts that that go into piece that
Speaker 3: we had to remove, and long story short, I have
Speaker 3: been taking this trailer home from the job site for
Speaker 3: the past three days because I don't want to Boddy
Speaker 3: to steal it. So this trailer has gone from from
Speaker 3: my house to the job site three times this week. Today,
Speaker 3: when we're putting it all back together, the guy who's
Speaker 3: working with me is like, yo, man, we're missing a bolt.
Speaker 3: Like a bolt fell off. Not a huge deal, like
Speaker 3: it was for something minor. But I'm like, man, where
Speaker 3: could this bolt be. We're working in a gravel lot.
Speaker 2: And god, how big is the bolt?
Speaker 3: And so I mean it's a half inch sized I'm sorry, nut,
Speaker 3: excuse me, it's a half inch sized nut. And I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: it could be anywhere from here to my house, right,
Speaker 3: like we just noticed this. And so I'm like, well, whatever,
Speaker 3: I'll go get another nut later on. Just keep working.
Speaker 3: And so I start putting the license plate on the
Speaker 3: trailer and the washer falls. So I go down to
Speaker 3: look for the washer. I can't find the washer. I'm
Speaker 3: looking in the gravel for the washer. I find the nut,
Speaker 3: and then I find the washer, and they landed about
Speaker 3: that far from each other. And I'm just like, that's
Speaker 3: how it works.
Speaker 1: Even a blind squirrel gets a nut.
Speaker 2: That's answer me. Something is a is a nut the
Speaker 2: one that goes all the way through or is the
Speaker 2: and and is the bolt, the one that's closed on
Speaker 2: one end. Is that the difference between a nut.
Speaker 3: And a bolt?
Speaker 2: So what are you laughing about?
Speaker 3: So this is the bolt? The bolt is threaded.
Speaker 2: Oh, the nut.
Speaker 3: Goes on the bolt. Oh, so a.
Speaker 2: Bolt is like a I mean, it's obviously not a screw,
Speaker 2: but it's threaded and it's a like.
Speaker 3: I thought, so a bolt is essentially a screw with No,
Speaker 3: it's a flat Yeah, it doesn't have a phillips or
Speaker 3: a flathead or any sort of bit, right, you use
Speaker 3: like a socket.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a socket rancher or something like that would be okay.
Speaker 2: And then I guess there's just like a nut that
Speaker 2: like goes all the way through, and then there's also
Speaker 2: a nut that's closed on one side. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm talking about, right, No, that's part of the bat.
Speaker 3: Huh, it's part of the bolt.
Speaker 4: But they have nut. Never mind, who cares.
Speaker 3: There's there's a there's such thing as a cap nut.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about
Speaker 2: nuts and bolts people.
Speaker 3: So the other thing I wanted to tell you guys
Speaker 3: was that my my boss's wife and his daughter had
Speaker 3: an experience.
Speaker 1: What tell me about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they they know I do the podcast. I
Speaker 3: don't talk about it around my boss because he makes
Speaker 3: fun of me for it. Yeah yeah, and among other
Speaker 3: things like we have a great relationship, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 3: but I just anyway, we we got really into it
Speaker 3: when we drove to Georgia a while ago, and I
Speaker 3: started like laying it on him. I'm like, yo, man,
Speaker 3: it's not it's not nuts and bold stuff. It's like
Speaker 3: it's it's a little bit more than that. It's angels.
Speaker 3: And anyway, I get a call Monday night. I get
Speaker 3: a call nine o'clock from him, which is out of
Speaker 3: the ordinary, like, what what is going on? Pick up
Speaker 3: the phone. He goes, dude, you got to hear this.
Speaker 3: And then he passes, no, hey, hello, how you doing.
Speaker 3: You gotta hear this, passes the phone to his wife.
Speaker 3: She said, Alex, Alex, we're driving down Carolina Beach Road
Speaker 3: leaving Monkey Junction. So driving that way, right, they see
Speaker 3: this giant ball of light in the sky, like pretty
Speaker 3: low and very very there. They have a video of it.
Speaker 3: They see it. They're like, man, that's kind of strange,
Speaker 3: but maybe it's a drone or a plane or whatever.
Speaker 3: As they drive to it, it doesn't move. They like
Speaker 3: catch up to it, so it's just floating there and
Speaker 3: it doesn't have any I saw the video. It doesn't
Speaker 3: have any light patterns like any plane drone ever. It's
Speaker 3: it's just a light and they get up to it
Speaker 3: and then they like get past it and when they
Speaker 3: look back to see it, it's.
Speaker 2: Gone, wow, no way.
Speaker 3: And so she showed me the video and it's kind
Speaker 3: of like shaky, and because they're riding in a car
Speaker 3: and it's really interesting, it's really interesting video. Sorry. We
Speaker 3: get to talking and I pull up some of the
Speaker 3: videos that I took it bigfoot, and I'm like, here's
Speaker 3: the kind of things that like we see and she's
Speaker 3: like it looks just like that. Whoa, And I mean
Speaker 3: it's very different, like there's very much closer.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then she said that someone she plays bingo with
Speaker 3: saw the same thing at the same time. Wow what
Speaker 3: so that's not yeah, and and so so yeah, he's
Speaker 3: like uh, he said, yeah, they came home and told
Speaker 3: me this, and they're kind of in a panic. They're
Speaker 3: kind of scared, and I was like, you got to
Speaker 3: talk to Alex, like Alex, and he goes man I
Speaker 3: don't know how to feel. He's like, should I should
Speaker 3: I be worried? Like should I get my gun out?
Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Don't worry about it, like you can be okay, but damn,
Speaker 3: that's crazy yea. And they're not like about it. They're
Speaker 3: not like into it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they've been Yeah, but they've been around you,
Speaker 2: and you're you've been sharing energy with them, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: And then I mean, you know my other coworkers now
Speaker 3: all in about Monroe.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, really yeah damn.
Speaker 1: And I remember.
Speaker 3: Week one of working with this guy, or in week two,
Speaker 3: like very early, I casually brought up reincarnation casually, you know,
Speaker 3: so and he's like, man, I don't believe in that bullshit.
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, whatever, Like okay, we'll talk about
Speaker 3: that stuff anymore. You know, it's a little early, right,
Speaker 3: And now like you're working with this guy, He's like, man,
Speaker 3: I love that. I love the Monroe stuff. I downloaded
Speaker 3: the app. I subscribed, like I met my spirit guides, like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, intense intense like sessions that he's been
Speaker 3: going through telling me about it, And I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: this is awesome. This is awesome, and so like dumping
Speaker 3: more of the philosophy that we talk about on him
Speaker 3: and he's like all in right, and now he's like,
Speaker 3: I want to meet Ryan. I want to go skywatching,
Speaker 3: like like we've got on my boat, you know, like yeah,
Speaker 3: And I'm not trying to toot my own horn. I'm
Speaker 3: trying to toot all of our horns, like us in here. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and the people listening because it happens to them too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I think this is another sort of offshoot of
Speaker 3: this hitchhiker effect that happens where you kind of become
Speaker 3: that catalyst.
Speaker 2: You're the node that passes it along. The phenomenon is
Speaker 2: a collective experience.
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm going around like lighting candles. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like I'm like illuminating people. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, that dude, that's crazy. I love that your
Speaker 2: boss and his family had that like wild experience, and
Speaker 2: that's that's an abnormal I would say that's an abnormal
Speaker 2: orb experience. It's not all the time you see him
Speaker 2: that close. It is not do you have the.
Speaker 1: Video to show us later?
Speaker 3: I mean, not that we're posted or anything, but I'm
Speaker 3: trying to get her to send it to me, but
Speaker 3: I'd like to see it.
Speaker 1: Tell her I want to see it.
Speaker 3: Tell her she doesn't. She didn't know who you are.
Speaker 1: Your boss's wife.
Speaker 3: Oh, she knows who you are, but her daughter has
Speaker 3: the video. I'm trying to get it from her. Yeah,
Speaker 3: just I'll try to get I'll get it. I'll get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd love to see it. I mean, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: why not. I'm not saying to post it. I don't
Speaker 1: want to. No, No, I'll get it. You'll get it
Speaker 1: for privacy. But it'd be nice to see that.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: And so then I'm like, that's why. I'm like, something's happened,
Speaker 3: like the shift is happened.
Speaker 1: It's a new world now. Yes, that's what Paul Senior
Speaker 1: told me. Yeah, shout out to Paul Senior, Shout out
Speaker 1: to the Paul, Yeah to both. Paul's really yeah, but
Speaker 1: in that moment, I'm thinking of Paul Senior. Yeah, shout out.
Speaker 1: Me and Paul Junr text like all the time now,
Speaker 1: and we we like to share movies and anime and
Speaker 1: stuff back and forth. And we've been kind of making
Speaker 1: little jokes about like Obi Wan and Luke, like the
Speaker 1: way I see Paul because he's only twenty three. Did
Speaker 1: you do that?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah?
Speaker 1: I thought he was like thirty.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I mean I just I just see people in the
Speaker 1: frame of you're probably about my age.
Speaker 4: Oh, he's a young And I asked him.
Speaker 1: I was like, how old are you man, He's like
Speaker 1: twenty three.
Speaker 2: I was like, what the yeah?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And you know they have no clue who Paul Senior
Speaker 1: and Junior is. That's okay. We're going to have them
Speaker 1: on in the New Year and they're going to tell
Speaker 1: their experiences, but you'll get to meet them just a
Speaker 1: little taste. Paul Senior told me that part of his
Speaker 1: experience was the beings said basically like it's a new world,
Speaker 1: and they welcome him. They're like, welcome to the new world, Paul.
Speaker 1: It's a new world. Now you know people are going
Speaker 1: to begin to awaken. And that really struck a chord
Speaker 1: with me. And then he said, get this. He said
Speaker 1: that the beings told him he had this experience two
Speaker 1: years ago. He said, they told him you were going
Speaker 1: to make in about two years time, you're going to
Speaker 1: make new telepathic friends who's and to help you get
Speaker 1: your story to the world.
Speaker 4: Wow. And I was like, that's all the money.
Speaker 1: I was like, is that me?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: That's why I've been really trying to, you know, get
Speaker 1: you to hear the story. And I was like, I'm telepathic.
Speaker 1: I never thought about it like that. Friends, Are we telepathic?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: But I never But you have to think, man, like,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: We may have proved that tonight.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but I mean this is this is a
Speaker 1: we're on the cusp of something completely new. And I
Speaker 1: don't just mean we as in the three of us,
Speaker 1: I mean the world. We're on the cusp of something
Speaker 1: completely new. That's very fringe, very you know, abstract, very
Speaker 1: little attention on it. This whole telepathy, esp. Psychokinesis all
Speaker 1: this stuff. Maybe it's common knowledge to us, Maybe it's
Speaker 1: interesting to us and to the you know, a few
Speaker 1: thousand listeners we have, but to the masses, to the
Speaker 1: eight billion people of the world, this is very out
Speaker 1: there stuff. I've never thought of myself as telepathic or
Speaker 1: you guys are anyone. And that him just telling me
Speaker 1: his experience caused a shift in me. Because I'm looking
Speaker 1: at him, I know he's telling the truth. I know
Speaker 1: he really had this experience. I know that the beings
Speaker 1: really communicated people because I grew up with it. And
Speaker 1: they're telling him, you know, you're gonna make these new
Speaker 1: telepathic friends. I'm like, oh my god, we're telepathic. And
Speaker 1: if that's true, that opens a whole other realm of possibility.
Speaker 1: And anyway, just because you were saying, you know, something
Speaker 1: is happening, and yeah, something is happening. It's the Awakening,
Speaker 1: It's the Age of Aquarius.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I have no doubt in my mind. Things
Speaker 2: have been so wild the past couple of years. It's
Speaker 2: just getting more and more and more like frequent, and
Speaker 2: the experiences are getting crazier. Like it's like every year
Speaker 2: that goes by, I saw something crazier than I did
Speaker 2: the year before. Yeah, and I saw things more frequently.
Speaker 3: Next year is.
Speaker 1: Gonna be insane.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and even like not phenomenonally, yeah, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. In personal life, these shifts that are
Speaker 3: happening outside of all this are very large, very like
Speaker 3: uncomfortable because of how you know, big a shift it is,
Speaker 3: but tend you know, it tends to be very positive
Speaker 3: most of the time. Like you know, I can think
Speaker 3: of all of us being through a lot in the
Speaker 3: last couple of months, you know, but how much we've
Speaker 3: changed as individuals here in this room and and us
Speaker 3: being more of a better version of ourselves now than
Speaker 3: we were. Yea, you know, the the change has been positive,
Speaker 3: you know, it's it doesn't mean it's been fun or
Speaker 3: nice the whole time. Yeah, it's been one of the
Speaker 3: hardest years of my life. Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you only grew, like like what do they say,
Speaker 2: what's the saying flowers only grow in rain? Like when
Speaker 2: you grow with pressure makes time?
Speaker 4: Like you that's when you grow when things are tough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no like the whole there's no learning in
Speaker 2: heaven thing.
Speaker 3: And healthy things grow. That was one of the things
Speaker 3: I one of my favorite little pieces that I picked up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when they talk about that in the Hobbit, so
Speaker 4: you better get on it.
Speaker 1: Oh they do well speaking of the Hobbit.
Speaker 4: That's what the Hobbits are all about.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the Hobbit and speaking of like they're being
Speaker 1: a great shift. I think that is a great point
Speaker 1: for us to turn over towards the heretic because that
Speaker 1: is what we came here to talk about. And I
Speaker 1: really only need like thirty minutes or you know, what
Speaker 1: do you think? Well, well, here's the reality the movies
Speaker 1: in theaters. I've only had the opportunity to go see
Speaker 1: it once in theaters, So I am going completely off memory.
Speaker 1: That's okay, it's not a bad thing. I remember the movie.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm not going to have you know,
Speaker 1: every time they you know, say a line, I don't
Speaker 1: have that. Yeah. I'm telling you the premise of the
Speaker 1: movie and comparing it to the things that are very important.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I know very little about this and I'm
Speaker 2: excited to hear about it.
Speaker 1: Oh it's insane.
Speaker 4: I'm really excited.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I just want to say, like, going into this movie,
Speaker 1: I knew very little, and in fact, I saw the trailer.
Speaker 1: I think it was when we went to see Long
Speaker 1: Legs and the trailer played in that movie, that's correct.
Speaker 1: And Jenny was like, that looks amazing, and I was like,
Speaker 1: it looks kind of bad. I thought it looked dumb.
Speaker 1: I thought it looked really cheesy. And did you say
Speaker 1: it's no Hugh Grant, Yeah, yeah, And I thought it
Speaker 1: just I was not interested in this movie, and Jenny
Speaker 1: was like, I really want to see it. I really
Speaker 1: want to see it. I was like, you know, what
Speaker 1: if it'll make you happy. You know, I'm interested in
Speaker 1: seeing it, but I really don't care. The week that
Speaker 1: it came out, the reviews started coming out ten out
Speaker 1: of ten, banging ten out of ten, and I was like, whoa, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know that doesn't happen a whole lot. And I
Speaker 1: started seeing reviews and people were leaving the theaters. They
Speaker 1: had tears down their face. They were like best movie
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. I'm in shock. And I was just like, okay,
Speaker 1: let's go see it.
Speaker 3: You need after Joker too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well this this definitely resis sitated my soul.
Speaker 4: He said, I have to check it out.
Speaker 2: So yeah, no, for real.
Speaker 1: I was like all right, yeah, And Jenny was like, hey, I'm,
Speaker 1: you know, not doing anything this night, and I was
Speaker 1: like whatever, let's go. It was just kind of a
Speaker 1: spontaneous thing. I really didn't know that much about the movie.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'll just say like a little, a little
Speaker 1: like before I get into the movie, I will say
Speaker 1: that I left the movie completely mind blown, like more
Speaker 1: than I've ever left feeling in a movie. I felt
Speaker 1: like when I was watching the movie, I had the
Speaker 1: very strong sense that it was predestined that it would
Speaker 1: come out when it did, because there are several things
Speaker 1: that we've been talking about on the show for months
Speaker 1: now that were verbatim spoken about in the movie. There
Speaker 1: were things that happened in the movie that are verbatim
Speaker 1: things we've been talking about on the show, and I
Speaker 1: mentioned a little bit of it to Alex, but really
Speaker 1: not a lot. So yeah, I just I left a
Speaker 1: movie like, oh my god. Like I literally was telling
Speaker 1: Jenny like, this is proof that there is a uh,
Speaker 1: some sort of driving force behind awakening, that there's some
Speaker 1: sort of force, whether it's a person in you know,
Speaker 1: or group of people in Hollywood, or if it's the
Speaker 1: spirit world driving the bus, whatever, there's somebody saying, release
Speaker 1: this knowledge to the masses. Put it in a movie,
Speaker 1: because the stuff that's in this movie is not just metaphor.
Speaker 1: It's not just allegory. It's not just symbolism. It's literally
Speaker 1: the movie. It's literally the plot. So it starts off
Speaker 1: with these two Mormon missionaries, right, they're riding their bicycles.
Speaker 2: We know a couple of them former.
Speaker 1: Yes we do, we do, we do, and they were
Speaker 1: just at the big Foot Festival with Alan. It. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say where they're from, but it
Speaker 1: was in their town, right outside Fabel, But well, I
Speaker 1: guess I could say in Sanford. That's public knowledge. But anyway,
Speaker 1: so yeah, it starts off with these two young ladies
Speaker 1: and they are Mormon missionaries, and they're obviously in Utah,
Speaker 1: or at least they talk about being from Utah. I
Speaker 1: don't know that they're in Utah, but I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: they are. And they're on a bench. They're like in
Speaker 1: between door knocking, you know, trying to convert people. And
Speaker 1: the movie starts off. They're sitting on this bench that
Speaker 1: is an advertisement for Magnum condoms, and it's not really
Speaker 1: like related to the plot of the movie other than
Speaker 1: to show you that they are awkward about it. It's
Speaker 1: a juxtaposition, right, because they're talking about it and they
Speaker 1: very clearly like don't really know what they're talking about.
Speaker 1: And they're talking about like I saw a porno once
Speaker 1: and it was weird because and they were describing it
Speaker 1: in very like sheltered terms. That's sheltered. They're very sheltered.
Speaker 1: They're talking about it in a sheltered way. But the
Speaker 1: other chick, the girl with the black hair, she's you're
Speaker 1: kind of picking up maybe she's not so shelledltered.
Speaker 4: She's like, I hate it's the worst.
Speaker 1: Well, no, it was the opposite. Sorry, yeah, the sheltered girl.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then there's one girl with the black hair. I
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's.
Speaker 4: Barnes and Noble.
Speaker 1: No, that's Odst right, right, I think it's I think
Speaker 1: it's Barnes. And then the girl's name is like Baxton
Speaker 1: or something. It's their last names and anyway, so it's
Speaker 1: just showing you that they're sheltered, right. So their door knocking,
Speaker 1: they're trying to convert people. They're riding their bicycles all
Speaker 1: over town. Then they get to who Grant's house and
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, last stop of the day. Who like
Speaker 1: bike for miles you know, up a mountain up.
Speaker 4: I saw the trailer for this and I was like that.
Speaker 2: Shit looks good. It is okay, sorry.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: So they get to his house and he's like oh wow,
Speaker 1: you know, and they're like you know, aren't you. I
Speaker 1: can't remember his name and they're like you were requesting
Speaker 1: information from the church and he's like yeah, yeah, come
Speaker 1: in and they're like, well, you know, we can't be
Speaker 1: in your house unless your wife is present. He's like, oh,
Speaker 1: my's in the back making pie. Come in and they're like, okay,
Speaker 1: if she'll only be a minute. And they go sit
Speaker 1: in his living room and he's all like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm making blueberry pie or my wife's in the back,
Speaker 1: and they're like, well, you know, we really can't talk
Speaker 1: about things unless she's present. He's like, it's okay, she's
Speaker 1: just in the back making a pie. And they're like, well,
Speaker 1: we do smell the blueberry pie. And he's asking them
Speaker 1: questions like and they're really into it. They're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know x y Z why we're into you know,
Speaker 1: this part of our faith. And they're just really having
Speaker 1: a conversation about it. And along the lines of their
Speaker 1: conversation things start to take a shift and he's like,
Speaker 1: hold that thought, I want to go get something. And
Speaker 1: he goes to his like wardrobe behind them. It's like
Speaker 1: this chest that opens up with all these books in it,
Speaker 1: and he pulls out the Book of Mormon. Oh and
Speaker 1: it has like three hundred tabs researching. He does it
Speaker 1: on the table and he's he's like one of the girls,
Speaker 1: the shelter girl literally says, Wow, you've read this more
Speaker 1: than us. That's like yeah, and he starts to ask
Speaker 1: them questions. He's like, what do you think about polygamy?
Speaker 1: And he starts asking them questions that are like offensive
Speaker 1: to Mormonism. You know he's a heretic. Oh yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: so he's he's asking them questions that, like, in conventional terms,
Speaker 1: we all realizes, you know, kind of messed up about Mormonism. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they're like coming up with their reasons. The girl
Speaker 1: with the black hair, I think she's Barnes. She kind
Speaker 1: of is a little more savvy. She reveals that she
Speaker 1: has a past, like maybe I think it was either
Speaker 1: her mom or her dad died, so she had like
Speaker 1: a rough childhood. She didn't grow up in the church.
Speaker 1: She turned twelve and she like picked a church, so
Speaker 1: she didn't start off Mormon. She's kind of like rough
Speaker 1: around the edges. But then the other girl was like
Speaker 1: born and raised in Augden, Utah, on the church or whatever.
Speaker 1: So she's like super you know, a big smile, she's
Speaker 1: awkward whatever, and he starts being like, what do you
Speaker 1: think about polygamy? So the shelter girl, she clams up
Speaker 1: every time he'd ask the tough question and the girl
Speaker 1: with the black hair would answer, and she would have
Speaker 1: these really thoughtful answers. And anyway, so moving forward a
Speaker 1: little bit, He's like, let me go check on my
Speaker 1: wife and see how that pie is coming along. And
Speaker 1: he leaves the room, and the girl with the black
Speaker 1: hair barns. She's like, looks around. She's starting to get
Speaker 1: suspicious something's up. She sees the candle on the table.
Speaker 1: She turns it around.
Speaker 3: It's blueberry pie.
Speaker 4: I was just thinking he lit a fucking candle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no pie. So anyway, I'm gonna move forward
Speaker 1: a little bit because I'm kind of like teasing the
Speaker 1: premise of the movie. So he comes back and they
Speaker 1: realize there's no pie. They start to be a little worried,
Speaker 1: like something's weird here. I forgot to say. But the
Speaker 1: lights are on a timer, and they kept turning off,
Speaker 1: and then he would turn this crank and the lights
Speaker 1: would turn on. You realize a little bit into the
Speaker 1: movie that the doors are bolted locked and like everything
Speaker 1: is on a timer, so they can't get out. He
Speaker 1: tells them up front, by the way, my walls are
Speaker 1: lined with metal, so there's no cell service, they can't
Speaker 1: call out.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, they.
Speaker 1: Are completely locked in. And he starts saying, well, I
Speaker 1: want to be upfront with you guys. They're like, you know,
Speaker 1: you seem really spiritual. You seem like a really good
Speaker 1: candidate for being, you know, in the Mormon faith. He's like, well,
Speaker 1: I He's like, uh, you know, when I was getting
Speaker 1: my doctorate, I spent about a decade not really interested
Speaker 1: in finding God, not finding spirituality, but just trying to
Speaker 1: find a thread between faiths, trying to find a connection.
Speaker 1: He said, but in my studies, regrettably, I found the
Speaker 1: secret truth, the secret religion. I found the true God
Speaker 1: above God that not many people know about. And it's
Speaker 1: very hard to find. You have to look very close
Speaker 1: and to these little different threads throughout time. He was like,
Speaker 1: but eventually I did find the truth. I'm afraid. And
Speaker 1: they're like, uh, okay, we want to get the hell
Speaker 1: out of here. So he goes to the other room.
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, He's like, just come back here with
Speaker 1: me and I'll show you in my study or something
Speaker 1: like that. They try to leave doors bolted. They're like shit,
Speaker 1: and he's like, I'm just in here, and they realize
Speaker 1: they have to go forward. So they start going forward.
Speaker 1: And when they passed the door where he kept coming
Speaker 1: in and out of and it's a small house by
Speaker 1: the way, it's like a pretty small house from the outside.
Speaker 1: When they passed the door, they're in this dark hallway
Speaker 1: and they see this figure in the dark and it's
Speaker 1: like kind of scary. You the viewers, you're like, well,
Speaker 1: what is that? Is that a demon? Is it a monster?
Speaker 1: It looks weird, and you know, they start kind of
Speaker 1: edging closer to the figure and as they get closer
Speaker 1: they see it's because of the perspective and how it's dark,
Speaker 1: and like the eyes on the statue, how they're revealed
Speaker 1: as they get closer to it. It's a statue of Plato.
Speaker 1: Oh what, so there's a statue of Plato at the
Speaker 1: doorway where they're about to enter through this long hallway.
Speaker 1: When that part happened, it's about thirty minutes into the movie,
Speaker 1: maybe twenty or so. When that part happened, I leaned
Speaker 1: over to Jennifer and I whispered, they're about to go
Speaker 1: through initiation, huh, And she was like cool. But they
Speaker 1: passed the statue of Plato and then there's this study
Speaker 1: with two doors. I think there were a green door
Speaker 1: and a red door, and there were two pillars, and
Speaker 1: there were two lamps, which we know from freemasonry is
Speaker 1: boaz and junk. You know, it's you know, the light
Speaker 1: in the dark man.
Speaker 4: They're going through the underworld. Bro, this is crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he has this this study is like bigger
Speaker 1: than the living room. But it's like this house ain't
Speaker 1: supposed to be that big. But you find out he's
Speaker 1: like bored through the mountain. Oh because his house on
Speaker 1: top of a mountain. So anyway, so like they're in
Speaker 1: his study and there's all this there's all these books,
Speaker 1: all these statues. The camera kind of like pans around
Speaker 1: and you the viewer can see, oh, there's a statue
Speaker 1: of Shiva. There's hieroglyphs on the wall of raw and Horace.
Speaker 1: There's uh, you know, Greek figures, there's Babylonian figures. And
Speaker 1: so eventually he starts telling them like, yeah, I found
Speaker 1: the secret religion. He starts questioning their faith. He's like,
Speaker 1: you know, basically challenging them that they don't even really
Speaker 1: believe what they believe. They just believe because they're told
Speaker 1: to believe, and he like put them to test their
Speaker 1: faith by making them choose, like if they want to
Speaker 1: go through the door of belief or disbelief. Right, So,
Speaker 1: before they go through the door of belief and disbelief,
Speaker 1: he's like, would you guys want to hint? And they're like, yes,
Speaker 1: we'd like a hint. So he says okay. By the way,
Speaker 1: they think he's gonna sexually assault them, kill them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're freaking out. They're like in tears, like it's kind
Speaker 1: of making you think that, yeah, and they're like freaking out,
Speaker 1: like what do we do? What do we do? They're
Speaker 1: coming up with every lie that they can. We just
Speaker 1: got a call from so and so at the church.
Speaker 1: He's like, but I just told you the walls were metal. Oh.
Speaker 1: So he kept calling them on their lies and they
Speaker 1: have to like find a way out of it. It's
Speaker 1: really tense, and he's like, well, i'll give you a hint.
Speaker 1: So he plays this song and it's like some really
Speaker 1: old song from the nineteen twenties or something like that,
Speaker 1: and he's like, have you ever heard the song? They're
Speaker 1: like no, He's like, yeah, you have, And then he
Speaker 1: played another song by I think like Radiohead or I
Speaker 1: think it was Radiohead, and he was like, this group
Speaker 1: was sued by this group because they sampled their melody.
Speaker 1: And then he played another song and he was like,
Speaker 1: then the previous group sued this group because they sampled
Speaker 1: their melody. It's Monopoly on the table, and then he
Speaker 1: puts like an older version of Monopoly on the table
Speaker 1: that's like the precursor that no one's ever heard of,
Speaker 1: that came out on the eighteen hundreds, and he's like,
Speaker 1: you know about Monopoly. He's shown them the rules of
Speaker 1: the game. There's you know, past go you pay rent
Speaker 1: to until you get forced off the board, you go
Speaker 1: to jail, which is you know, like hell. And then
Speaker 1: he showed him the other game from the eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 1: It's exactly the same. And then he showed a newer
Speaker 1: version that's like the version of the credit cards. Are
Speaker 1: you getting the hint? It's derivatives. There's things that in
Speaker 1: modern times derived from things that are much older than
Speaker 1: no one's ever heard of. And they're like not really
Speaker 1: getting the hint, and he's like, okay, fine, and then
Speaker 1: he throws a Bible on the table. He throws the
Speaker 1: torah and then he throws the Koran and he's like,
Speaker 1: you have Judaism, then you have Christianity, then you have Islam.
Speaker 1: He's like, are you getting the hint? And they're like
Speaker 1: not really. He's like basically explaining. He says to them, see,
Speaker 1: the true God comes from something much older than all
Speaker 1: of these. Then Judaism, then Islam, then Christianity. What we
Speaker 1: have to day are derivatives, or rather a shadow or
Speaker 1: a reflection of something that exists in a vastly ancient
Speaker 1: time beyond our recollection. And you know, they's just warm missionaries.
Speaker 3: They're there.
Speaker 1: So then basically they realize after begging him to leave,
Speaker 1: they realize they have to go through one of two doors.
Speaker 1: So they open one of the doors and it descends
Speaker 1: down to the depths of a cave. It goes down
Speaker 1: to a cave, and then they close the door and
Speaker 1: they look at the other door. It's a cave and they're.
Speaker 3: Like, shit, a cave in this dude's house.
Speaker 1: Both doors go down into a cave, and they choose
Speaker 1: the door of belief because they're like, okay, well, we
Speaker 1: realize that you're studying us. You want to see if
Speaker 1: we will, you know, react in a way that's honest
Speaker 1: and authentic. So we're gonna choose belief because we believe, right.
Speaker 1: And they go down the steps all the way down
Speaker 1: into the cave and when they get to the bottom,
Speaker 1: there's like a table in there, and it's like there's
Speaker 1: dirt on the ground, mud, there's like barred windows, and
Speaker 1: way above them in the ceiling there's like rain drops,
Speaker 1: so you could see that it's out of the side
Speaker 1: of a mountain. They're way underground, and they're like, oh crap,
Speaker 1: he's gonna kill us. And it cuts to him being
Speaker 1: in a different room and he has this this figurine
Speaker 1: thing that he made that's like a maze. It's like
Speaker 1: a like a miniature, like he made a model of
Speaker 1: the house with the subterranean cave, and he's making little
Speaker 1: statues and he's putting them there. He orchestrated everything down
Speaker 1: to like them coming up with their specific excuses to
Speaker 1: try to get out. So they're in this little cave
Speaker 1: and you know, you're thinking the viewer, you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen next, right, So then somebody comes down
Speaker 1: the stairs and it's not Hugh Grant. It's this really
Speaker 1: weird lady in a white robe like hood. She has
Speaker 1: these nasty hands and these long nails, and she looks
Speaker 1: kind of like a like a zombie or something. And
Speaker 1: she walks in the room and she gets on her
Speaker 1: hands and knees and then she like stretches her arms
Speaker 1: behind her back and puts them in this really weird
Speaker 1: prayer formation that reminded me of like Mudras like it was.
Speaker 1: It was very kind of Eastern. And then he starts
Speaker 1: speaking over an intercom. He was like, the real reason
Speaker 1: I brought you here tonight is because you are going
Speaker 1: to bear witness to a miracle, and you are going
Speaker 1: to be responsible for reporting this miracle and proving that
Speaker 1: it really happened.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, And you're like, what that so intimidating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So then he says you are going to witness
Speaker 1: resurrection after death and he basically, uh, before that happened.
Speaker 1: They find this piece of wood that they broke off
Speaker 1: that's really sharp, and the girl Barnes, the one who's
Speaker 1: like had the you know, the kind of the hard past,
Speaker 1: and she's not really sheltered. She tells you, girl, she's
Speaker 1: like the code word is magic underwear, because you know,
Speaker 1: Mormons have magic car. In the beginning, the girl was
Speaker 1: pants because they're like, we want to see your magic underwear,
Speaker 1: and they pants her, and you know, it was like
Speaker 1: she's kind of crying, and so she was like, the
Speaker 1: keyword is magic underwear. If if I say magic underwear,
Speaker 1: stab him in the neck when it comes down here.
Speaker 1: So she slips this like shank in her pocket and
Speaker 1: she has it like the whole movie. So anyway, a
Speaker 1: few minutes later, the old lady comes down. She's in
Speaker 1: the prayer position, and Hugh grants, like you're gonna see
Speaker 1: a miracle. He brings a pie, or rather she puts
Speaker 1: a pie on.
Speaker 2: The table the lady in the robe.
Speaker 1: Either he does or she does, I don't know, but
Speaker 1: it gets there somehow, and he says it has poison
Speaker 1: in it. It's like wolf spain and cyanide or something.
Speaker 1: So she's gonna eat the pie and she's gonna die
Speaker 1: and she's gonna resurrect from the dead. And they're like,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna report it, or he said you're gonna
Speaker 1: report it, and they're like freaking out, Oh my god.
Speaker 3: She eats the.
Speaker 1: Pie, she dies, and then he's like any minute now,
Speaker 1: and then I think I think the doorbell rings, so
Speaker 1: he walks away from his location. They run up the stairs.
Speaker 1: They're trying to like get out, What the heck do
Speaker 1: we do?
Speaker 3: What the heck do we do?
Speaker 1: You know? And I think it was like the guy
Speaker 1: that was looking for them, like the Mormon missionary guy,
Speaker 1: because you know, they it was determined that they were missing.
Speaker 1: So there's a couple of times where the doorbell rings
Speaker 1: and the guy from the church comes looking for him,
Speaker 1: and and and anyway, so he gets back. They get
Speaker 1: back into the room downstairs because they realize they can't
Speaker 1: get out. The door's bolted, so they run back down
Speaker 1: into the chamber, and the shelter girl notices that the
Speaker 1: old lady at the table looks different, that she's in
Speaker 1: a different position, and she's like, she moved, she moved,
Speaker 1: And he comes back on the intercom. He's like, sorry
Speaker 1: about that. You know, you're you're gonna see a miracle.
Speaker 1: You're gonna see her come back from the dead, and
Speaker 1: then you're gonna report what you observe. She comes back
Speaker 1: from the dead, she starts vomiting blood. She she goes
Speaker 1: into the girl's ear and she starts whispering she starts saying,
Speaker 1: I want to remember the order, but she goes, I
Speaker 1: saw a cloud. She starts explaining.
Speaker 2: Life after death, like she says what happened.
Speaker 1: Like, she starts saying something like it isn't real, It
Speaker 1: isn't real. None of this is real. I saw the
Speaker 1: cloud of you know, the world beyond, and this is
Speaker 1: all not real or something like that. And she was
Speaker 1: freaked out and she was like, oh my god, she
Speaker 1: really came from the dead. Like the shelter girl's believing
Speaker 1: it's a miracle. She's freaked out. She's in shock. And
Speaker 1: then Hugh Grant comes down and he was like, you
Speaker 1: guys saw a miracle. You know, what do you think?
Speaker 1: And he's like kind of going crazy, like he's like
Speaker 1: a mad genius, like he's obviously very brilliant, but he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's manic.
Speaker 3: He's nuts, and.
Speaker 1: And they're like basically like, well, you know, explain your
Speaker 1: miracle in your stupid belief system or whatever. And then
Speaker 1: he starts I think he has a whiteboard for some reason.
Speaker 1: I feel like he had a whiteboard and he starts
Speaker 1: explaining to them, uh, the real ancient religion that is
Speaker 1: way older than what we have today is that we
Speaker 1: are in a simulation, that what's out there after death
Speaker 1: is the real world, that this is a simulation.
Speaker 2: Damn explicit like just mystery schools.
Speaker 3: Yo.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not saying, dude, not to mention they went
Speaker 1: through initiation in a case. Yeah, just like we've been
Speaker 1: talking about all with.
Speaker 2: All the statues and the figures and like the the
Speaker 2: Joe az In vacquim.
Speaker 1: Is it boaz and jucking.
Speaker 2: I always do that always.
Speaker 1: He says, uh, this is this is a simulation, and
Speaker 1: this is why we have to test our hypothesis. He
Speaker 1: was like, this is why I want you to report
Speaker 1: the miracle, because we're trying to get proof. We're trying
Speaker 1: to prove it to the world. Right, this is science.
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, he's obviously onto something, but he's
Speaker 1: going about it the wrong way, right, But yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the point, is like, it's basically literally the plot of
Speaker 1: the movie is showing you the secret teachings of all ages.
Speaker 2: How did he explain the chick coming back to life?
Speaker 1: We're getting there, Okay, So he's like, now, are you
Speaker 1: willing to test this for yourself? Are you willing to
Speaker 1: come back from the dead?
Speaker 3: Oh, and they're like, oh no, no, we're not.
Speaker 4: Let me kill you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, basically no, he's like, you kill yourself. Eat the pie, right,
Speaker 1: And the girl with the black hair is getting really
Speaker 1: pissed off. She's like, you're a liar, you're a fake.
Speaker 1: It was a magic trick that wasn't a miracle. And
Speaker 1: he just literally just slits her throat.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: And she falls down and she bleeds out and she
Speaker 1: dies and and he's like any minute now, don't worry.
Speaker 1: He's telling the other girl. He's like she'll be back,
Speaker 1: she'll be back, don't worry any minute. And she doesn't
Speaker 1: come back. Ah, And he's like, oh, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: Like I think I made a mistake. I think she's
Speaker 1: an NPC. And she's like, what's an NPC. He's like
Speaker 1: non player character, like a person in the simulation who
Speaker 1: doesn't have a soul. She's not real. He was like,
Speaker 1: she's not real.
Speaker 3: She's a part of the program.
Speaker 1: And he goes and he digs into her arm and
Speaker 1: he slices her arm and he pulls out this metal
Speaker 1: implant and it's like, I can't and he says, see
Speaker 1: she has an implant, and the girl the Mormon girl's like,
Speaker 1: that's birth control and he's like, oh it is, and
Speaker 1: she's like yeah, and he goes, so, then why would
Speaker 1: she hide this from the church. Why would she hide
Speaker 1: this from the people that she's supposed to report to
Speaker 1: and the blonde hair girl she goes, well, maybe because
Speaker 1: she would have been ashamed and she would have been
Speaker 1: made to feel Yeah, basically.
Speaker 2: Basically that's where she's communicated.
Speaker 1: And he's like, huh interesting, and then he goes, well, oh,
Speaker 1: I forgot to say. At one point, after the body resurrected,
Speaker 1: it was gone.
Speaker 3: The old chick.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it was just gone.
Speaker 1: I think it was when the doorbell ring maybe, and
Speaker 1: they went upstairs and then they came back and it
Speaker 1: was something like that. They they left for a minute,
Speaker 1: They left the room multiple times, and they came back
Speaker 1: and this body was gone. So she was like, it
Speaker 1: just left to another room. Oh no, no, no, no, I remember
Speaker 1: what it is now I'm getting there. So he opens
Speaker 1: this trap door under them and he's like, the only
Speaker 1: way you can tell if the miracle was real is
Speaker 1: if you go even deeper down and it goes straight down.
Speaker 1: The other one was like stairs that go like a
Speaker 1: forty five degree angle. This one goes straight down, way further,
Speaker 1: and he's like, you can find the answer for yourself
Speaker 1: if you go down even deeper. You know, you can
Speaker 1: see if the miracle was real. So she goes down,
Speaker 1: He closes the hatch, locks her in there, and she
Speaker 1: gets down. She sees a body of one of those
Speaker 1: people in a robe. So then she's like, I told
Speaker 1: you you're a liar. What he did was the lady
Speaker 1: didn't really resurrect from the dead.
Speaker 4: He swapped her.
Speaker 1: He swapped her. Yeah, so he poisoned her. He dropped
Speaker 1: her body down a hatch, and then another one came
Speaker 1: in and was like, you know, coughing up on the
Speaker 1: blood and all that. So she said, see it was
Speaker 1: a magic trick. It wasn't a real miracle. And then
Speaker 1: she has no choice but to go deeper. So she's
Speaker 1: going even deeper. She goes through these three different layers
Speaker 1: where I think the first room was like a six
Speaker 1: pointed star like the as above so below, just like
Speaker 1: in the movie as above so below the Seal of Solomon,
Speaker 1: and there's all these symbols. There's like Hebrew writing on
Speaker 1: the walls, and it's like this whole elaborate room with
Speaker 1: a bunch of like mystical writings on it. She goes
Speaker 1: through that door. Then she goes to another room with
Speaker 1: bones everywhere, and it's like Nordic ruins and just all
Speaker 1: these different mystical symbols. And then she pushes through even
Speaker 1: deeper through that room and she gets to the last
Speaker 1: room and it's Satan is them. It's like the upside
Speaker 1: down star. It's you know, all this Luciferian symbolism. And
Speaker 1: when she crosses through that door with the upside down pinogram,
Speaker 1: she gets into this room with a bunch of cages
Speaker 1: and it's just like the lady that was in the
Speaker 1: white robe. There's like ten or twenty of them in cages.
Speaker 1: And what he does is everybody that he pulls into
Speaker 1: these caverns to test, he traps them there forever locks
Speaker 1: them in the cage and makes them all kill themselves
Speaker 1: over and over to like test the theory for the newcomers.
Speaker 1: And they're all like really old, you know, long hair,
Speaker 1: long nails, like you know, rotting skin, whatever. And he
Speaker 1: has like this weird technology, like you know, certain atmospheric
Speaker 1: conditions being blasted into the room. The little food balls
Speaker 1: to keep them alive like rats in a cage. And
Speaker 1: she's like, you know, you made all this up, and basically,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously I can't forbade to remember the dialogue.
Speaker 1: And he says, yeah, I controlled every decision you made.
Speaker 1: Every lie was thoroughly crafted. And he says, now that
Speaker 1: you have you know, passed the trials, you know the
Speaker 1: truth of what religion really is, what is it? Tell
Speaker 1: me what it is? And she said control. He said, yes,
Speaker 1: religion is control. And then he says something like he's
Speaker 1: like kind of touching her on the shoulder and like
Speaker 1: patting her hair, and he's been real creepy, and he
Speaker 1: says something like, especially you know how they make you
Speaker 1: wear magic underwear. And then she shanks. You know, an
Speaker 1: hour ago she got that thing. But she shanks and
Speaker 1: stabs him in the throat. And then she runs all
Speaker 1: the way back up to the top. She not the
Speaker 1: top like in the house, but back to the dungeon
Speaker 1: room down the cave, which it was way far down,
Speaker 1: like she had to go down and then down another
Speaker 1: three you know levels, and through all these different rooms.
Speaker 1: I'm really you know, paraphrasing. She gets back to that
Speaker 1: room where the miracle took place whatever, And then she
Speaker 1: finds another door. She goes up through that door and
Speaker 1: it's like his control room. She looks over by his
Speaker 1: desk and there is a picture of Dante's Inferno and
Speaker 1: it shows it says Paradiso and I think it says
Speaker 1: Lucifer at the bottom the top basically yeah, yeah, or
Speaker 1: like God and Satan. Yeah, you know, Jesus and Lucifer.
Speaker 1: And she runs out of that room. She realizes she's
Speaker 1: locked out of the house. She can't do anything, So
Speaker 1: she goes back to the room where the miracle happens,
Speaker 1: this big cave, and she just kind of waits. He
Speaker 1: shows up behind her. He stabs her in the gut.
Speaker 1: She's laying there, she's just kind of accepting that she's
Speaker 1: about to die. He stabbed in the in the neck,
Speaker 1: but he's still alive. He's bleeding out. He crawls over
Speaker 1: to her. He's about to stab her in the throat
Speaker 1: and kill her, and then Homegirl Barns raises from the
Speaker 1: dead for real, yeah, and kills him with a spike board.
Speaker 1: What she the miracle took place? Ah, I forgot to say.
Speaker 1: In the beginning of the movie, The shelter Girl said,
Speaker 1: I keep saying shelter girl because I cannot remember her
Speaker 1: freaking name. I think it was Baxton or Braxton or something.
Speaker 1: But she says she made a joke when she was
Speaker 1: talking to him in the very beginning of the movie.
Speaker 1: She said, well, you know, if I was to reincarnate,
Speaker 1: I would want to be a butterfly, but I would
Speaker 1: land on my my, you know, friend's hand, but specifically
Speaker 1: their hand, because then they would know that it was
Speaker 1: me coming from the afterlife. But anyway, so you know,
Speaker 1: the girl raises from the dead, she kills the Hugh
Speaker 1: Grant character, and you're sitting there questioning, did she just
Speaker 1: raise from the dead? Did this really just happen? And she,
Speaker 1: you know, gets the key or whatever, she gets out
Speaker 1: and she escapes. She's out in the snow, she's like
Speaker 1: kind of bleeding out, but she's gonna make it, and
Speaker 1: a butterfly lands on her hand.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 1: So not only did she raise from the dead, but
Speaker 1: then she came back as the butterfly and she landed
Speaker 1: on her hand. So that's basically the movie, right. You
Speaker 1: have two layers to this one. You have Hugh Grant
Speaker 1: is Satan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the devil.
Speaker 1: He's doing false magic tricks. He's showing a miracle, but
Speaker 1: it's really just a trick. Yeah, he's you know, controlling,
Speaker 1: he's he's lying, aware.
Speaker 2: Of all the real magic, but he's doing dark stuff
Speaker 2: with it, right yeah, yeah, likelier.
Speaker 1: Right, he's like telling these forbidden secrets to them, but
Speaker 1: then he's showing them the dark path. He's controlling them,
Speaker 1: he's enslaving them mentally, physically. But then on the other hand,
Speaker 1: the miracle really took.
Speaker 4: Place, right, Yeah, and the magic is still real.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and you know, the secret is still real,
Speaker 1: and you know, not to mention you know, it all
Speaker 1: took place in a cave, which is symbolic.
Speaker 2: And the statue of Plato. Yeah, so it's all very intentional.
Speaker 1: I got a few readings. These are things that I've
Speaker 1: read on the show, but I wanted to remind the listener.
Speaker 1: So this is from the Secret Teachings of all Ages.
Speaker 1: It is difficult to obtain satisfactory information concerning the mysteries,
Speaker 1: for the candidates were bound by unviolable oaths never to
Speaker 1: reveal their inner secrets to the profane. At the beginning
Speaker 1: of the ceremony of initiation, the candidates stood upon the
Speaker 1: skids of animals sacrificed for the purpose, and vowed that
Speaker 1: death should seal his lips before he would divulge the
Speaker 1: sacred truths which were about to be communicated to him
Speaker 1: through indirect channels. However, some of their secrets have been preserved.
Speaker 1: The teachings given to the neophytes were substantially as follows.
Speaker 1: The soul of man, often called psyche and in the
Speaker 1: Eleusinian mysteries symbolized by persephone, is essentially a spiritual thing.
Speaker 1: Its true home is in the higher worlds. Remember he's like,
Speaker 1: this is a simulation, It's not real. The true soul
Speaker 1: is in the higher world, the true being whatever, its
Speaker 1: true home is in the higher world, where, free from
Speaker 1: the bondage of material form and material concepts, it is
Speaker 1: said to be truly alive and self expressive. The human
Speaker 1: or physical nature of man, according to this doctrine, is
Speaker 1: a tomb, a quagmire, a false and impermanent thing, the
Speaker 1: source of all sorrow and suffering. Plato describes the body
Speaker 1: as the sepulcher of the soul, and by this he
Speaker 1: means not only the human form, but also the human nature.
Speaker 1: The mystics of Eleusis also laid stress upon the evil
Speaker 1: of suicide, explaining that there was a profound mystery concerning
Speaker 1: this crime, of which they could not speak, but warning
Speaker 1: their disciples that a great sorrow comes to all who
Speaker 1: take their own lives. This, in substance constitutes the esoteric
Speaker 1: doctrine given to the initiates of the lesser mysteries, as
Speaker 1: the Degree dealt largely with the mysteries of those who
Speaker 1: failed to make the best use of their philosophic opportunities.
Speaker 1: The chambers of initiation were subterranean, and the horrors of
Speaker 1: hades were vividly depicted in a complicated ritualistic drama. After
Speaker 1: passing successfully through the torture passageways with their trials and dangers,
Speaker 1: the candidate received the honorary title of misties or mystic.
Speaker 1: This meant one who saw through a veil or had
Speaker 1: a clouded vision. It also signified that the candidate had
Speaker 1: been brought up to the veil, which would be torn
Speaker 1: away in the Higher Degree or the Higher Mysteries. The
Speaker 1: modern word mystic as referring to a secret after truth.
Speaker 1: According to the dictates of the Heart, along the path
Speaker 1: of faith, is probably derived from this ancient word for
Speaker 1: faith is belief in the reality of things unseen or veiled.
Speaker 1: Mythology is nearly always the ritual. In the symbolism of
Speaker 1: a mystery school briefly stated, the sacred drama which formed
Speaker 1: the basis of the Odentic mysteries, or Odin was as follows.
Speaker 1: The supreme, invisible creator of all things was called All Father.
Speaker 1: His nature was Odin, the one eyed god. Like quetzel Coote,
Speaker 1: Odin was elevated to the dignity of the supreme deity.
Speaker 1: According to the draw Tars or the drafters, the universe
Speaker 1: was fashioned from the body o Mirror. The horror frost
Speaker 1: giant Amir formed the clouds of mist that rose from
Speaker 1: Ganunga pap or Ganuonnga Gap, the great cleft and chaos
Speaker 1: into which the primordial frost giants and flame giants had
Speaker 1: hurled snow and fire. The three gods Odin, Vili and Vei,
Speaker 1: slew Ymir, and from him formed the world. From Yamir's
Speaker 1: various members, the different parts of nature were fashioned. After
Speaker 1: Odin had established order, he caused a wonderful palace called
Speaker 1: Asgard to be built on the top of a mountain.
Speaker 1: On this mountain also was Valhalla, the palace of the slain,
Speaker 1: where those who had heroically died fought and feasted day
Speaker 1: after day. Each night the wounds were healed, and the
Speaker 1: boor whose flesh they ate renewed itself as rapidly as
Speaker 1: it was consumed. Here's where we get to the mystery part.
Speaker 1: Balder the Beautiful, the Scandinavian Christ, was the beloved son
Speaker 1: of Odin. Balder was not warlike. His kindly and beautiful
Speaker 1: spirit brought peace and joy to the hearts of the gods,
Speaker 1: and they all loved him save one. As Jesus had
Speaker 1: a Judas among him twelve disciples, so one of the
Speaker 1: twelve gods was false Loki, the personification of evil. In
Speaker 1: the movie, they had Nordic runes in the second room.
Speaker 1: After the Hebrew writings, Loki caused Hother, the blind, god
Speaker 1: of fate, to shoot Balder with a mistletoe arrow. With
Speaker 1: the death of Balder, light and joy vanished from the
Speaker 1: lives of the other deities. Heartbroken, the gods gathered to
Speaker 1: find a method whereby they could resurrect the spirit of
Speaker 1: eternal life and youth. The result was the establishment of
Speaker 1: the mysteries. The odentic mysteries were given in underground crypts
Speaker 1: or caves. The chambers nine in number, representing the nine
Speaker 1: worlds of the mysteries. The candidates seeking admission was assigned
Speaker 1: the task of raising Balder from the dead. Although he
Speaker 1: did not realize it, he himself played the part of Balder.
Speaker 1: He called himself a wanderer. The caverns through which he
Speaker 1: passed were symbolic of the worlds and spheres of nature.
Speaker 1: The priests who initiated him were emblematic of the Sun,
Speaker 1: the Moon, and the stars. The three supreme initiators, the Sublime,
Speaker 1: the Equal, and the Sublime and the Highest, were analogous
Speaker 1: to the Worshipful Master and the junior and senior wardens
Speaker 1: of a Masonic lodge. After wandering for hours through the
Speaker 1: intricate passageways, the candidate was ushered into the presence of
Speaker 1: a statue of Balder the Beautiful, the prototype of all
Speaker 1: initiates into the mysteries. This figure stood in the center
Speaker 1: of a great apartment roofed with shields. In the midst
Speaker 1: of the chambers stood a plant with seven blossoms, emblematic
Speaker 1: of the planars or the seven Chokras. In this room,
Speaker 1: which symbolized the house of the acer gods or Wisdom,
Speaker 1: the neophyte took his oath of secrecy and piety upon
Speaker 1: the naked blade of a sword. He drank the sanctified
Speaker 1: mead from a bowl made of human skull, and having
Speaker 1: passed successfully through all the tortures and trials designed to
Speaker 1: divert him from the course of wisdom, he was finally
Speaker 1: permitted to unveil the mystery of odin the personification of Wisdom.
Speaker 1: He was presented in the name of Balder with the
Speaker 1: sacred ring of the Order. He was hailed as a
Speaker 1: man reborn, and it was said of him that he
Speaker 1: had died and had been raised again without passing through
Speaker 1: the gates of death. Like in the movie. They're showing
Speaker 1: you so many elements of this the symbolism, the going
Speaker 1: through the trials, and the horrors down in the subterranean caverns.
Speaker 2: That might be the closest parallel that had so many
Speaker 2: similarities to that story, Like the story of Balder had
Speaker 2: so many similarities to this movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, also passing through the gates of death without dying,
Speaker 1: even though it was a magic trick you know she was.
Speaker 1: The whole point was you're gonna witness a miracle. They
Speaker 1: were dying, they were having a near death experience or
Speaker 1: out of body experience, going to the other side. They
Speaker 1: were having this mystical experience, gaining information about the other
Speaker 1: world and then coming back and reporting it to the
Speaker 1: profane or the uninitiated, to the mysteries. And it's just
Speaker 1: like so fucking insane that they showed this in the movie.
Speaker 1: Like it's not even allegory, like it's literal.
Speaker 2: No, it's blatant. It's blatant implicit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's more blatant than the Matrix. Yeah, oh as
Speaker 1: good as the Matrix is. Like they're not telling you
Speaker 1: what it's about.
Speaker 2: Dude, I feel like this. We're gonna start seeing this
Speaker 2: more and more. We're gonna we're about to start seeing
Speaker 2: this more and more.
Speaker 4: I feel it.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 1: I didn't even mention this part that I saw this
Speaker 1: movie the week after we filmed the Mithras episode.
Speaker 4: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: In the movie they talk about.
Speaker 2: Mithris what in what context.
Speaker 1: There's a whole point where he's explaining to them before
Speaker 1: they go down into the cave. He's like, do you
Speaker 1: want to hit and He's like explaining, you know, they're
Speaker 1: all derivatives of an older religion. He says, there are
Speaker 1: twenty four gods on this wall behind me. He has hieroglyphs, tablets, paintings,
Speaker 1: and all these other, you know, statues. He's like, the
Speaker 1: twenty four gods on this wall all have the same
Speaker 1: birthday as Jesus Christ, Mythrs.
Speaker 3: Horace.
Speaker 1: He just starts naming all these gods and I was like,
Speaker 1: he just said, Mythris. We just recorded this episode.
Speaker 2: That's a deep cut too. That's not like it's not
Speaker 2: often that you hear about Mythris. I mean, I haven't
Speaker 2: heard about it anywhere except for this show.
Speaker 1: Dude, of all things. We just recorded that episode. Yeah,
Speaker 1: at the time I'm of recording this, that's not out yet,
Speaker 1: but at the time this airs it will be obviously.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But that was so mind blowing to me that the
Speaker 1: most recent episode we had recorded was about Mythris and
Speaker 1: the rituals they did in Caves Underground. And then I
Speaker 1: went to the theaters and I saw this movie.
Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck they're doing rituals in
Speaker 2: caves underground? Yes, talking about Mithris. Yes, on the nose.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is this is like Destiny. I
Speaker 1: was like, this is all pre ordained, Like it was
Speaker 1: mind blowing. And I had a little quote about Mithris
Speaker 1: too that I mean, I guess we did end up
Speaker 1: reading it on the episode, the Mithris episode, but right,
Speaker 1: let me find it. The rights of Mythris were performed
Speaker 1: in caves. Porphyry in his Cave of the Nymphs The
Speaker 1: Nymphs states that Zarathustra was the first to consecrate a
Speaker 1: cave to the worship of God because the cavern was
Speaker 1: symbolic of the earth or the lower world of darkness.
Speaker 1: John P. Lundy, in his Monumental Christianity, describes the Cave
Speaker 1: of Mithris as follows. But the this cave was adorned
Speaker 1: with the signs of the zodiac Cancer and Capricorn, which
Speaker 1: is the summer in the winter solstice, and of solstices
Speaker 1: the summer.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: It literally says that in the next line, the summer
Speaker 1: and winter solstices were chiefly conspicuous as the gates of
Speaker 1: souls descending into this life or passing out of it
Speaker 1: in their ascent to the gods, Cancer being the gate
Speaker 1: of descent and Capricorn of acent. These are the two
Speaker 1: avenues of the immortals, passing up and down from Earth
Speaker 1: to heaven, and from Heaven to Earth. It's just crazy
Speaker 1: that the majority of this movie took place in a cave.
Speaker 1: Here's another example, Druids. This is also from the Secret
Speaker 1: Teachings of all ages. Before a candidate was entrusted with
Speaker 1: the secret doctrines of the Druids, he was bound with
Speaker 1: a vowel secrecy. These doctrines were imparted only in the
Speaker 1: depths of forests and in the darkness, in the darkness
Speaker 1: of caves, and these places, far from the haunts of men,
Speaker 1: the neophyte was instructed concerning the creation of the universe,
Speaker 1: the personalities of the gods, the laws of nature, the
Speaker 1: secrets of occult medicine, the mysteries of the celestial bodies,
Speaker 1: and the rudiments of magic and sorcery. The Druids had
Speaker 1: a great number of feast days. The new and full
Speaker 1: moon in the sixth day of the moon were sacred periods.
Speaker 1: It is believed that initiations took place only at the
Speaker 1: two solstices and the two equinoxes. At dawn of the
Speaker 1: twenty fifth day of December, the birth of the sun
Speaker 1: God was celebrated. It goes on and on like literally
Speaker 1: pretty much every secret society in the ancient past had
Speaker 1: their ritualistic initiations, either in you in the forests, away
Speaker 1: from society, in a cave, or in a labyrinth. The
Speaker 1: Greeks were big on labyrinths. Yeah, in the movie it
Speaker 1: was a labyrinth.
Speaker 2: He yeah, you said he had like a little maze,
Speaker 2: like a little miniature, and I immediately thought labyrinth.
Speaker 3: There's a difference between the two. Yes, of course, what's
Speaker 3: the difference. A labyrinth leads to the center and amaze
Speaker 3: is a puzzle.
Speaker 1: Interesting because the movie it was a labyrinth.
Speaker 3: No matter where you So you enter the labyrinth in
Speaker 3: one place and you follow it and it goes always
Speaker 3: leads to the center.
Speaker 1: That happened in the movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was labyrinth.
Speaker 2: So then it was eleven literally eleventh damn dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a thing. I don't have the quote
Speaker 1: on me, and that's okay, you can take my word
Speaker 1: for it. But there is a quote in the Secret
Speaker 1: Teachings of All Ages. I just didn't go and grab
Speaker 1: it where they talk about the initiates of the Elysian mysteries.
Speaker 5: And.
Speaker 1: I think I think just the alician mysteries where they
Speaker 1: would perform them in labyrinths, you know. So it's like
Speaker 1: it's just it's crazy. Like this movie is so insane.
Speaker 4: I got to see this.
Speaker 2: It sounds awesome, and I'm telling you, when I saw
Speaker 2: the trailer, I was like, I think me and Casey
Speaker 2: saw it. We were watching a movie or something and
Speaker 2: we saw the trailer and I was like, I want
Speaker 2: to see that, and she was like, really, it looks
Speaker 2: kind of scary and I was like, yeah, but it
Speaker 2: looks sick.
Speaker 1: I promise you it's not.
Speaker 2: And I didn't know what I didn't know something. You
Speaker 2: can't really tell from that you saw the trailer. Yeah
Speaker 2: you can't. Oh yeah, you said when y'all went to
Speaker 2: see that, it looked and it doesn't really get into
Speaker 2: any of that, like the mystical stuff at all. It's like,
Speaker 2: for what I got from the trailer was like, these
Speaker 2: two missionary girls.
Speaker 4: Are just getting trapped in this psycho's house.
Speaker 2: That was it, dude.
Speaker 1: The people teaching this knowledge in the past were the heretics.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly right, Yes, he's the heretics.
Speaker 1: But like, I think the cool part of the movie
Speaker 1: because about three quarters of the way through when you
Speaker 1: find out it was a magic trick and there was
Speaker 1: no miracle quote right, because there ended up being one.
Speaker 1: But at that point I was like, oh man, right,
Speaker 1: it's like a dark you know.
Speaker 4: I started feeling that, like.
Speaker 1: A dark agenda, you know, while I was watching the movie,
Speaker 1: I was like, it's still a cool point. The knowledge
Speaker 1: is all true, but you know, they kind of took
Speaker 1: a dark twist with it. But then you find out
Speaker 1: at the end, like there was a miracle and the
Speaker 1: reincarnation happened, and she was the butterfly landing on her hand,
Speaker 1: and it had a really like kind of happy, joyful ending,
Speaker 1: like she made it out the butterfly touch her and
Speaker 1: she's all in this white snow and the sun is
Speaker 1: shining honor. And what we know about symbolism is.
Speaker 4: So they both made it out right.
Speaker 1: No, No, she ended up she died. Yeah, she ended up
Speaker 1: dying again. She died, she came back, she saved her,
Speaker 1: and then she died.
Speaker 2: Again like past just died from her wounds. Yeah, yeah, okay, and.
Speaker 1: Then she came back as the butterfly. Yea, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I thought it was so cool, how like
Speaker 1: Hugh Grant was the devil. Yeah, but you know there's
Speaker 1: another layer to this movie that, like religion is control it.
Speaker 1: Like she passed through that final door, made it to
Speaker 1: the bottom of the Labyrinth, which I haven't even talked
Speaker 1: about this yet, but it has the same premise of
Speaker 1: as above, So below the movie where you find out
Speaker 1: that they're crawling, you know, through the catacomb catacombs, and
Speaker 1: they hit a point in the catacombs where there's a
Speaker 1: sign that says abandon all hope you who enter here,
Speaker 1: which is from Dante Alla Garry. Yeah, you know, and
Speaker 1: that's the gates to Hell. You don't know that until
Speaker 1: later in the movie. Oh God, they're in Hell. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't tell you that up front. And
Speaker 1: the way they get out of Hell is they go
Speaker 1: all the way down through the darkest depths.
Speaker 4: Which is Dante infront of That's what happens.
Speaker 1: And that literally also happens in Heretic, Right.
Speaker 2: She goes because he's like, you got to go all
Speaker 2: the way. Yeah, you have to go all the way.
Speaker 1: And she goes all the way. She passes that final door,
Speaker 1: which is literally Satan the darkness, and she makes it through.
Speaker 1: She sees the truth revealed, right, this dark truth, that Satan.
Speaker 1: It doesn't say that he's Satan, it's just you know,
Speaker 1: if you have the eyes to see.
Speaker 2: The context, it's the context.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's basically Satan. He's controlling everybody. He may you know,
Speaker 1: he's he's mixing lives of truth. But if you think
Speaker 1: about it, like that is true in the world today,
Speaker 1: like Satan is religion, or rather religion is satan.
Speaker 2: Right right, you know, yeah, it's the control, the darkness,
Speaker 2: the and I mean that lowest layer is also like
Speaker 2: straight up hell with the cages and the decaying people
Speaker 2: like that, that is that's hell. That's what you think
Speaker 2: about when you think about hell and torture.
Speaker 1: And I missed this context. But she's trying to free
Speaker 1: them from the cage, the main girl, And as the
Speaker 1: movie goes on, she becomes less sheltered and she becomes
Speaker 1: more I guess you could say awake in like an
Speaker 1: easier way to describe it, Like she kind of becomes
Speaker 1: more bold, becomes more like challenging to him. She goes
Speaker 1: through her own little journey throughout the movie, right, and
Speaker 1: she's trying to free them, and Hugh Grant's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, don't even try. They wouldn't leave if if
Speaker 1: you beg them to. They want to be here. They're
Speaker 1: loyal to me. I have made them become loyal to me.
Speaker 1: They will do whatever I ask of them. And he
Speaker 1: literally takes a blade and he just chops one's finger off. Oh,
Speaker 1: because I see she doesn't care. He's like, they will
Speaker 1: kill themselves over and over for me because they believe
Speaker 1: in me. So it's like it's kind of showing you
Speaker 1: in an allegorical way that like the people that are
Speaker 1: slaves to religion, they'll do anything, they'll do anything in
Speaker 1: the name of religion, be in a fucking cave and
Speaker 1: be miserable forever in hell, just because you know, their
Speaker 1: religion is controlling their mind and and and and that's
Speaker 1: kind of deep. And I don't want to be, you know, harsh,
Speaker 1: but that's that's the point the movie's making.
Speaker 5: And dude, there are still literal like today right now
Speaker 5: as we speak, there are religious wars happening right now,
Speaker 5: right right now, people are willing to do literally anything, yeah,
Speaker 5: for because they're being controlled, yeah, by their their religion.
Speaker 5: It's it's heartbreaking.
Speaker 2: And it's said, and I think you hit it on
Speaker 2: the money, like that's that's evil, that's Satan.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, exactly, And.
Speaker 2: It's masquerading as light, as like positivity, as truth, right,
Speaker 2: as God, it's masquerading as God. And it's just not
Speaker 2: like why would God want you to do that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, just be like you know, blind obedience
Speaker 1: to to some controlling force. But then like the silver
Speaker 1: lining there is like, you know, the truth is much
Speaker 1: better that we are in the illusion we are or
Speaker 1: as the Gnostics called it, this is the nightmare.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: That's the other great thing about the movie. He literally
Speaker 1: literally told you the occult doctrine.
Speaker 4: M hm.
Speaker 1: He said this is he had a he had a whiteboard,
Speaker 1: and he was like this, see this is a simulation.
Speaker 1: He described it in like modern terms, but that's literally
Speaker 1: the secret exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But it's like, how how much closer could they get?
Speaker 1: The only way that they could do it any better
Speaker 1: is if they break the fourth wall and they're like, hey, guys, gonna.
Speaker 3: Look this up.
Speaker 1: We're telling you this ancient, real secret teaching stuff. Like
Speaker 1: that's literally the only way that it could be more,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, revealing if he broke the fourth wall,
Speaker 1: like look it up.
Speaker 4: This is real ship.
Speaker 1: This is what we're telling Like no, no, like that.
Speaker 4: They had it as explicitly as possible.
Speaker 1: As explicitly as humanly possible in the movie. So anyway,
Speaker 1: I don't want to whip a dead horse. But it
Speaker 1: was amazing. I highly recommend people watch it. It's not
Speaker 1: super gory. There's no like nudity or anything like that,
Speaker 1: and people are sensitive to that. It's not really scary either.
Speaker 1: It's definitely tense though. It's definitely like a thriller. It's
Speaker 1: a thriller.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I want to I want Yeah, I want
Speaker 2: to watch that. That sounds awesome. I definitely gotta watch it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And if I missed anything, I apologize, but I'm
Speaker 1: going off memory. I saw it in theaters two weeks
Speaker 1: ago and I didn't take a note bad and you know.
Speaker 2: So damn that's sick. I can't wait to watch it.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe me and Casey will watch it this weekend.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll go watch it.
Speaker 1: Heck, yeah, dude, you should. Yeah that's all I got, man.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I don't want to just keep going
Speaker 1: in circles.
Speaker 2: So yeah, hell yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna have to check it out.
Speaker 1: I have to check it out. But that's a that's
Speaker 1: ten out of ten. I'll have to check it out, Yes,
Speaker 1: to check it out.
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