1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, this is Robert Hayes and you're listening to 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:12,839 the Surely you Can't Be Serious podcast. When I was 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:17,679 a little boy, he's brob me so much joy and 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:24,000 the music kick but like nothing today. Say the world 5 00:00:24,199 --> 00:00:29,600 went insane, but that's when surely you came indeed be 6 00:00:29,879 --> 00:00:32,439 joy in that same all the way. 7 00:00:35,039 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: Say there's a time to scene, say we won't cross 8 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:40,280 the streets. 9 00:00:40,679 --> 00:00:43,799 Speaker 1: Surely this can be the best there is. 10 00:00:46,399 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 3: Say to my rocket queen, come back against the recon scene. 11 00:00:52,079 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: Surely you can. You can't be serious? 12 00:00:58,439 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 4: All right, guys, thanks for coming back for part two 13 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,520 of our interview with mister Robert Hayes, star of the 14 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,840 Airplane movies, And in case you missed the interview last week, 15 00:01:06,079 --> 00:01:09,319 check it out. This actually happened during our interview. 16 00:01:09,239 --> 00:01:11,599 Speaker 1: Peter Graves after he threw the script down so that 17 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,719 the biggest piece of garbage I've ever written that I've 18 00:01:14,799 --> 00:01:18,480 ever read, and his daughters said, Dad, but they're really 19 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,319 talking about this is gonna be funny. You got to 20 00:01:20,359 --> 00:01:23,680 read it again. The agent said, Peter, there's buzz about this. 21 00:01:23,719 --> 00:01:28,079 You got to read it. So he said, okay, whoa 22 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:29,799 Julie Hagy. 23 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 2: Go ahead, answer, yeah, go ahead and answer Julie. 24 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,879 Speaker 4: All right, guys, That actually is actress Julie Haggerty, who 25 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,640 called right in the middle of our interview, just purely 26 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,640 by chance and because we were talking to mister Robert 27 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,439 Hayes at the time, he was nice enough to put 28 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,640 her on speakerphone and we actually got to speak with 29 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:50,439 her a little. 30 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: Bit as well. 31 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 4: It was super cool. We were so stoked. So please 32 00:01:54,079 --> 00:01:56,680 enjoy part two of our interview with mister Robert Hayes 33 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,760 with a little bonus conversation with Miss Julie Haggerty. 34 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,319 Speaker 1: Thanks, guys, Can I put you on speaker real quick? 35 00:02:03,359 --> 00:02:07,920 I'm gonna put you on speaker Okay. I'm with Dean 36 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,080 Jason on their podcast and we're talking about you right now. 37 00:02:14,319 --> 00:02:17,439 Oh my gosh, what a day. 38 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 5: Hi Julie, Hello everybody. 39 00:02:22,319 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. We love you. 40 00:02:25,719 --> 00:02:26,759 Speaker 1: Oh I love. 41 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 5: You guys, and I love that Bobby. 42 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: We actually we prepared this. I told her to give 43 00:02:33,319 --> 00:02:37,639 us a call, give me a they're getting, they're getting 44 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,840 two for the price of one. We're talking about the 45 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,439 upcoming shows that we're doing. 46 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,879 Speaker 5: Oh wonderful. I know that's what I call it, because 47 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,039 we're going to be seeing each other in just a 48 00:02:49,159 --> 00:02:50,280 few days. 49 00:02:50,599 --> 00:02:55,719 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so you guys about the live tour, tell 50 00:02:55,759 --> 00:02:56,319 us about it. 51 00:02:56,759 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're going to be showing the film and 52 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,439 beyond tour around the country showing the film. Julie and 53 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,159 I are going to come out afterwards. Dan Pasternak is 54 00:03:09,199 --> 00:03:13,800 our moderator. He's done lots of stuff for Turner Classics 55 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,840 and TNT, He's produced a bunch of stuff. Teach his film. 56 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,960 He knows all about it, and then we do questions 57 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,159 from the audience, and then afterwards we do a little 58 00:03:23,159 --> 00:03:25,400 meet and greet and take pictures with people and having 59 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,360 a lot of fun. It's just a lot of fun. 60 00:03:27,719 --> 00:03:28,639 That's fantastic. 61 00:03:28,879 --> 00:03:32,479 Speaker 2: Well, you guys are so personal, personable and wonderful. I 62 00:03:32,479 --> 00:03:35,560 don't know how anybody would want to miss the opportunity 63 00:03:35,599 --> 00:03:36,199 to go see it. 64 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,159 Speaker 1: Are you in the camera? Do you remember how many 65 00:03:40,319 --> 00:03:41,120 shows that you have? 66 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: I know that I looked at the website and there 67 00:03:43,039 --> 00:03:45,680 was a whole list on the tour. I saw Wisconsin 68 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:50,400 on there. But there's there's probably two dozen, maybe shows 69 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:51,280 that you guys are going to do. 70 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, this first round of them is I think there's 71 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,360 ten or twelve on there. I think I've counted him. 72 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 5: Like, yeah, happened either. But there's it's a whole page. 73 00:04:03,759 --> 00:04:06,439 And it's just gonna be so much fun to hang 74 00:04:06,479 --> 00:04:10,599 out with Bob and meet all the people and and 75 00:04:13,879 --> 00:04:18,959 I don't know, I'm just I'm uh, I'm very excited. 76 00:04:19,319 --> 00:04:20,319 Speaker 4: It's gonna be so fun. 77 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:20,959 Speaker 3: Yeah. 78 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,319 Speaker 2: So for everybody who's listening to this right now, if 79 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,000 you're interested in the show, it is I believe that. 80 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:33,319 The website is Airplane Live Tour dot com, right and 81 00:04:33,399 --> 00:04:35,560 you can go on there see where your closest city 82 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,079 is and go watch one of the greatest movies ever made, 83 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,040 and then talk to a couple of the integral Yeah, 84 00:04:43,079 --> 00:04:43,879 and hang out. 85 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 3: Hang out with you guys. 86 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 4: Wow, it's so weird. You're you're on the Surely you 87 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,160 Can't Be Serious podcasts. 88 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,519 Speaker 1: You know what the name of this podcast is, Julie. 89 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,079 It's called Surely you Can't Be Serious. He started it 90 00:05:05,079 --> 00:05:05,920 seven years ago. 91 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 5: Wow, that's and where are you guys? 92 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 4: We're in Oklahoma? 93 00:05:12,879 --> 00:05:17,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, Norman Oklahoma the home and that's right. 94 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 5: Oh wow, oh wow. He's one of the all time greats. 95 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a favorite son here for sure. 96 00:05:25,519 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 97 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 4: Maybe you guys will pass through Dallas or something where 98 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,240 we could come see you guys. 99 00:05:31,079 --> 00:05:34,079 Speaker 1: We were hoping, we we were. I guess they're trying 100 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,199 to figure out if we're going to do it. We 101 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,399 had Dallas and Houston and Austin all kind of in 102 00:05:38,439 --> 00:05:41,319 there for a while. But they're they've got to negotiate, 103 00:05:41,439 --> 00:05:43,040 and a lot of people want to use the venues. 104 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,240 So you got to negotiate and see who was there first, 105 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,600 who's offering the most money. He was get the most 106 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:55,279 kicked back. You know, he's most under the table. Wow. 107 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 2: So I got to know, Julie, what's the story that 108 00:06:01,399 --> 00:06:05,279 you always tell about Robert or Bobby? I guess what's 109 00:06:05,319 --> 00:06:08,639 the story you always tell people about Bobby whenever you're 110 00:06:08,759 --> 00:06:10,000 whenever you're asked. 111 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 5: What, Well, just like when he would show up to work, Uh, well, 112 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:21,160 he always showed up. But you always knew that he 113 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:26,519 was on the soundstage because you would hear him getting closer. 114 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,480 But there were just waves of laughter, so you could say, oh, 115 00:06:30,519 --> 00:06:35,959 they're laughing over and makeup Bobs there surf because people 116 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:40,360 are laughing. He just would bring joy to you know, everybody. 117 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: Wow, I was paying off my bets. They were laughing 118 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,720 because they said I thought you'd never do it. 119 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 5: No, he's he's uh, he's uh my favorite leading man. 120 00:06:57,879 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, well that's high praise. 121 00:07:01,079 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, that was my first movie, and I 122 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,800 just he just kind of took me under his wing. 123 00:07:10,079 --> 00:07:14,279 He was doing Angie at the time, and uh, you know, 124 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:19,279 so he would run from the Angie over and then 125 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,680 do airplane all on a day. 126 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,439 Speaker 1: Wow, the last two weeks. 127 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:33,199 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just you know, and as scared as I was, 128 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:40,519 Bob just always made you feel safe and happy and uh, 129 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,120 you know, just I didn't even know about where you 130 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,519 were supposed to stand, or being in somebody's light or 131 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:49,560 any of that stuff. 132 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 4: Bob just moved me around. 133 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 5: Stand there. 134 00:07:54,839 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: It was my first film too, but I was so cocky. 135 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,079 I just acted like I knew. 136 00:08:02,519 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 3: He was dead striking. 137 00:08:03,879 --> 00:08:04,439 Speaker 1: I was acting. 138 00:08:05,879 --> 00:08:09,759 Speaker 5: Oh okay, okay, no, there isn't a cocky bone in 139 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,160 your body. 140 00:08:12,319 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, well listen, I'll call you back, call me back. 141 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 5: And it was nice to visit with you guys. Oh, 142 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,319 I'm driving in California and people are honking at me. 143 00:08:30,959 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 4: So wonderful speaking with you. What a wonderful surprise. 144 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 3: I hope you had a wonderful trip. I heard you 145 00:08:36,279 --> 00:08:37,240 were traveling. 146 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 4: Yes, so we were. 147 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 5: In Uh yeah, we were in Spain and I just 148 00:08:43,279 --> 00:08:48,600 got home and uh just looking forward to seeing Bob 149 00:08:48,759 --> 00:08:52,200 and doing his tour and meeting all the people. And 150 00:08:53,039 --> 00:08:55,360 I got to meet you guys over the phone, and 151 00:08:55,399 --> 00:08:57,559 so wow, wonderful. 152 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: What a day, what a day. 153 00:08:59,759 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 5: Well, thanks for letting me crash. And uh, I'll talk 154 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,240 to you. 155 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: Perfectly, okay, c bye, I will talk. I'll call you afterwards. Uh, 156 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,480 I love you, okay, bye bye, love you, Bye. 157 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,399 Speaker 4: Bye, Julie, bye bye. 158 00:09:19,759 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's her voice, that's her. 159 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,799 Speaker 3: She doesn't put it exactly the same. Yeah, just exactly. 160 00:09:27,519 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 1: When we were behind that we did a scene right 161 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,360 behind the cockpit and we're, you know, going back and 162 00:09:33,399 --> 00:09:40,480 forth and they said action and I think, uh she 163 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,639 had the first line, I think, and she screwed it 164 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,440 up and they said cut and she said, I'm sorry. 165 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,480 I said, no, no, Julie, don't worry about it. That's okay, 166 00:09:50,639 --> 00:09:52,879 that's okay, Okay, we're gonna go again. She said, I'm sorry. 167 00:09:52,919 --> 00:09:55,039 I said, don't worry about it. If you got the line, 168 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,200 did you give her the line? Yep, we're all set. Okay, okay, 169 00:09:58,279 --> 00:10:02,320 are you ready? I'm sorry, yeah, no, know go. So 170 00:10:02,519 --> 00:10:05,559 what I was we like, you know, at the time, 171 00:10:05,799 --> 00:10:08,480 I'm doing Angie, but I was also going back and 172 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,919 forth the last two weeks of it doing it, and 173 00:10:11,919 --> 00:10:16,279 and what I used to do on Angie, uh was 174 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,440 we'd have a kid come on and he's just got 175 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,360 one little small scene and he's so nervous and he's 176 00:10:23,399 --> 00:10:26,759 so scared enough tight, and I would he would blow 177 00:10:26,759 --> 00:10:29,840 a line and then they'd say, kt, okay, let's go again. 178 00:10:29,879 --> 00:10:32,720 We'd go again, ready and action, and then I'd blow 179 00:10:32,759 --> 00:10:37,200 the line and then I'd say, look to me, you 180 00:10:37,279 --> 00:10:39,440 did this, and he'd he'd go like that, and then 181 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,639 he realized I was joking. Then he would laugh. Everybody 182 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,399 was laughing, and then he was relaxed, and then he 183 00:10:44,639 --> 00:10:47,240 get the line again and I'd say, okay, I got 184 00:10:47,279 --> 00:10:50,279 my eye on you, you know, and then he would laugh. 185 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,000 And then we'd do the scene and he's comfortable. And 186 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,279 I was thinking about that, Gee, I wonder if I 187 00:10:55,279 --> 00:10:57,639 should do that or not. And they said action and 188 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,000 she did her line, and I just did it and 189 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,120 kind of blew the line. And I think it's because 190 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,639 I was thinking about should I or shouldn't I, and 191 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:11,200 I blew the line and she said I'm sorry, and 192 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,480 I said, no, no, Julie, it was Bob. It wasn't you. 193 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:24,200 I'm sorry. That's great. It's the sweetest thing on the planet. Yeah. 194 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: Wow. 195 00:11:26,039 --> 00:11:28,639 Speaker 1: Anyway, what a surprise that was. That was fun surprise 196 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:29,320 that was. 197 00:11:29,519 --> 00:11:33,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, that made time good enough time. Yeah, I'm going 198 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:33,480 to just go. 199 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 2: I'm just going to go sit by myself and just 200 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:36,559 think about how blessed I am. 201 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 3: Incredible. 202 00:11:39,879 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: So I I've got We've got so many questions, and 203 00:11:42,639 --> 00:11:44,120 I don't want to take up more of your time, 204 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,320 but I just two things that I want to talk about. 205 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:51,120 Tell me about your first meeting with the boys and 206 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,320 and what that experience was like. And then I also 207 00:11:53,399 --> 00:11:56,399 I just want to Kat's Eye is one of one 208 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,080 of our favorites from when we were younger guys, and 209 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,279 I would just be curious about a little bit of 210 00:12:03,279 --> 00:12:05,600 a story behind making that movie. 211 00:12:06,759 --> 00:12:12,399 Speaker 1: Well with with Airplane with the Boys, my agent, Arnie 212 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,480 Soloway was my agent. He was he was one of 213 00:12:16,519 --> 00:12:19,639 the clients Embroidered. They were doing needle Point and they 214 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,840 made a pillow that had a heart on it, and 215 00:12:22,879 --> 00:12:27,279 it was it said hustler with a heart. And he 216 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:32,279 was the typical New York Jewish agent, you know, Brooklyn guy. 217 00:12:33,159 --> 00:12:36,639 And his shirt was always unbuttoned down to the middle 218 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,480 of his belly. He had gold chains hanging on and 219 00:12:40,919 --> 00:12:43,480 always was out in the sun. Always looked like a 220 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:50,440 coffee bean, you know he was. And he was, yeah, well, Bobby, baby, 221 00:12:50,799 --> 00:12:54,720 you know that kind of guy I got. I got 222 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,600 a role to go to read for and I went, 223 00:12:57,879 --> 00:12:59,799 wait a minute, this isn't me. It was just like 224 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,840 a It was that character, you know, with all that stuff. 225 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:07,559 And he said, hey, just go in and be me. 226 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,120 But he uh he had a new agent come in 227 00:13:12,639 --> 00:13:17,080 named Beth Voyq and she had worked with Howard Coach 228 00:13:18,039 --> 00:13:23,320 and uh so she she came into the agency and 229 00:13:23,519 --> 00:13:27,679 uh she called Howard up and said, Howard, you guys 230 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,480 are still looking for your ted Striker. He says, yeah, 231 00:13:30,519 --> 00:13:32,879 we're looking at him. I got him, and he said, 232 00:13:32,879 --> 00:13:36,519 we'll bring him by. So, you know, I got the picture, 233 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,519 resume and everything and took it over. But you know, 234 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,000 brought me in. So I go in and I meet 235 00:13:42,039 --> 00:13:47,919 Howard in his office and the boys were there, and 236 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,000 so we met and we all liked each other. We 237 00:13:50,039 --> 00:13:54,279 all got along and and and then they had me 238 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,600 read and they liked my reading, and they said, okay, great, 239 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:03,960 well let's uh, let's go testament. They had Julie and 240 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,440 they wanted Julie and this, and they had been everywhere. 241 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:14,600 They've been in New York and Dallas, Chicago, Detroit, the Seattle, Minnesota, Minneapolis. 242 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,600 I mean they've been everywhere, all over LA and they 243 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:23,399 just couldn't find the right Ted Striker and Bruce Jenner 244 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,720 when Caitlyn was Bruce Jenner wanted to The joke David 245 00:14:28,759 --> 00:14:32,279 has is that Bruce came in twice to read for 246 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,639 Ted and came in a third time to read for Julie's. 247 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:41,879 But I don't know how true that is. But a 248 00:14:41,919 --> 00:14:44,840 lot of people, you know, big people wanted to get 249 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:53,080 in that there was an actress, that big actress, Sigourney 250 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,600 Weaver maybe or somebody like that, got dressed out in 251 00:14:57,639 --> 00:15:03,519 the hole way different. Yeah, forty these forties stewardess outfit everything, 252 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,279 came in and read. It was like, Wow, this is 253 00:15:06,519 --> 00:15:09,320 someone's really committed. But she started telling them, Okay, I'm 254 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,080 not going to say that line and I'm not gonna 255 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,480 say a line, this one has to be changed to 256 00:15:12,519 --> 00:15:14,720 this and this, and they all were kind of looking 257 00:15:14,759 --> 00:15:17,879 at each other and they're thinking, okay, well, thank you 258 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:24,399 very much. Yeah boy yeah, like oh gosh, because that's 259 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,399 the thing. Those lines they had rewritten, rewritten, rewritten, and 260 00:15:28,759 --> 00:15:32,039 there was no improv that was that was them. So 261 00:15:32,919 --> 00:15:37,279 that was a disaster. I think they escaped from having 262 00:15:37,279 --> 00:15:40,360 someone come in and change everything. So they got Julie. 263 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:45,159 Julie just seemed perfect, but they didn't have Ted, and 264 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,360 they thought, well, this has got possibilities. We like, you know, 265 00:15:49,679 --> 00:15:52,120 we like him. Let's see what it looks like. The 266 00:15:52,159 --> 00:15:57,120 studio wanted to test three people, three couples, and so 267 00:15:57,159 --> 00:16:00,519 they put Julie and me together. I just always figured 268 00:16:00,559 --> 00:16:02,480 I was really lucky that I got to test with 269 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,879 Julie and she felt that way about me, and but 270 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:10,000 I guess that was their plan. And so they did 271 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,919 the three couples and the word came back. They liked 272 00:16:13,919 --> 00:16:18,960 my spit take you know when uh uh you know, 273 00:16:19,039 --> 00:16:24,240 how how's uh you know, how's what's his name? Oh zip? Yeah, 274 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:25,919 he died that morning and then you see the spit 275 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,879 take go, And they said they liked my spit take 276 00:16:29,799 --> 00:16:33,360 so anyway, they so they cast me and then they 277 00:16:33,399 --> 00:16:35,879 came over. They were on the other side of PARAMOUNTA 278 00:16:35,879 --> 00:16:40,679 and they came over when we were rehearsing Angie the 279 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,840 scene and they got my attention. Went back behind the 280 00:16:44,879 --> 00:16:48,360 big cyclorama and the wall. There's a space about three 281 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,759 feet or so, and we huddled back there and they said, okay, 282 00:16:51,759 --> 00:16:54,039 well that's it. You're the one we want you. And 283 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,000 it was like whoa. So it's like the little kids 284 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,799 jumping up and down and excited. And said, okay, well, 285 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,840 I just uh, you better get back to work. And 286 00:17:01,879 --> 00:17:04,119 we got to get to work, so we'll talk soon. 287 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:08,039 And they said great, and so I left. And as 288 00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:12,440 they're leaving and they're walking across the parking lot, Jim said. 289 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,519 He turned to the boys, the other two, and he said, 290 00:17:16,559 --> 00:17:18,920 you know, maybe we should take a look at this Angie. 291 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,160 We've never we never looked at it. 292 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 5: Wow. 293 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,599 Speaker 1: They went and they got a copy of you know, 294 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,279 one of the episodes or a few of them, and 295 00:17:25,759 --> 00:17:27,799 they looked at it and they said, oh god, what 296 00:17:27,839 --> 00:17:33,920 have we done. That's a totally different thing. That's aha slapstick, 297 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:38,920 you know, and it's it's uh it's yuck, yak yak. 298 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,640 The audience applause signs. You know, you're playing, you're standing 299 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,839 in the sunlight. You've got five shadows, you know, because 300 00:17:46,839 --> 00:17:51,319 of all the light. Right, So it's just they thought, 301 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,240 oh geez. And then they we got on the set 302 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,799 and after the first day they said, oh, it's good. 303 00:17:57,839 --> 00:18:02,759 It's all working good. So wow. That was That was 304 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,319 the way that happened. Beth used to come over in 305 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,680 the set because she was so excited that it all 306 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,240 worked out, and she'd come over for like the first 307 00:18:11,319 --> 00:18:14,359 out in a week or so, and every time she'd 308 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,200 come in the set, they'd run up towards say thank you, 309 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:17,119 thank you, thank you, thank you. 310 00:18:20,279 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 3: Great. Oh. 311 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:26,079 Speaker 1: I liked hearing that. That was good nice, But it 312 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:27,960 was then it just kind of, you know, we just 313 00:18:28,039 --> 00:18:33,279 kept and and their whole idea. I was. I was 314 00:18:33,319 --> 00:18:35,759 thinking about that the other day. Someone asked me about that. 315 00:18:35,839 --> 00:18:39,119 I was thinking about it. When I was in Grossmont. 316 00:18:39,559 --> 00:18:46,359 I started developing this thing in my mind. When you're 317 00:18:46,559 --> 00:18:51,720 young actor, you're a sponge and you just soak up everything. 318 00:18:51,759 --> 00:18:54,359 I could see Henry Fonda and Jimmy Stewart do and 319 00:18:55,279 --> 00:18:58,079 all the you know, little things that Cooper would do 320 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:02,799 and and carry Grant and you know all these and 321 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,640 other some of the other actors too, but you soak 322 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,119 it all up and then you kind of try to 323 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,400 do it like them, so you're emulating them and it's 324 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,160 not right yet, but you're you're starting that process. And 325 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:21,079 then as you when you're doing theater every night, you're 326 00:19:21,079 --> 00:19:24,799 doing it again and again and again and again and 327 00:19:24,799 --> 00:19:28,200 and then and Matt and Ay's Wednesdays and Saturdays and Sundays, 328 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,200 and so you got nine shows a week to do 329 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:35,400 these things, and you know, ah, you start making it 330 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,599 your own, you know, right, and then and then it 331 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:45,119 becomes like that's not Ry Fondas, that's yours, you know, 332 00:19:45,759 --> 00:19:50,359 And that's not Jimmy's, That's that's yours. But uh. I 333 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,720 also I did mister Roberts, which was one of my 334 00:19:54,799 --> 00:19:59,759 favorite that I'd always wanted to do that role, and 335 00:19:59,759 --> 00:20:03,640 and I did it on NBC Live, the big event 336 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,000 to where you feel it and the cameras are on 337 00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:11,000 and it's going live across the country and delayed for the 338 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,119 West coast, but in the Midwest and the East, it's 339 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,839 all live. And Josh Logan, who wrote it, co wrote 340 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,720 it and directed the play and came in and did 341 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,960 the film. Was technically advisor with us, so it was 342 00:20:25,039 --> 00:20:28,200 you know, Charles Derning was and Kevin Bacon was Pulver. 343 00:20:28,279 --> 00:20:31,599 I mean, it was quite a big thing. Hal Hessem 344 00:20:31,759 --> 00:20:34,519 was doc and he was terrific it William Powell's role, 345 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,400 so uh. And then I got to do it again 346 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,440 at my home at the Globe Theater, and so you 347 00:20:41,519 --> 00:20:46,079 do over and over and I heard some I think 348 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,319 it was the stage manager told me as people were 349 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,599 milling out of the theater because of the time, maybe just 350 00:20:53,759 --> 00:20:56,519 the way I talk, And part of it is is 351 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,119 because of the years that I lived in Nebraska growing 352 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:09,960 up too, which is where Fonda is from. And yeah, 353 00:21:10,039 --> 00:21:12,359 you know, when you're talking like that, he had a 354 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,640 thing where he I'm not sure that's what I want 355 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,119 to do, but it's all that. It's got that sing 356 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,680 songy kind of thing, and I kind of have some 357 00:21:21,799 --> 00:21:24,920 of that in my voice. And somebody walked out of 358 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,920 a theater and there's a big navy town, so you know, 359 00:21:29,559 --> 00:21:31,519 they walk out and they're old guys and they all 360 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,799 know the Fonda era and they say, well, he doesn't 361 00:21:34,799 --> 00:21:39,279 look like Fonda, but he sure sounded like him. I'm 362 00:21:39,279 --> 00:21:45,799 not trying to do that, but you just eventually become 363 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,119 your own version of it. Of all of that that 364 00:21:50,279 --> 00:21:53,880 Castle role, of so many different ingredients, so many different actors, 365 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:58,599 and all that kind of blends and stews up into 366 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:03,599 what you become, know fantastic for cats. I it was 367 00:22:04,839 --> 00:22:09,319 it was in uh was it North Carolina? I think, 368 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,880 And it was during the Olympics, in eighty four Olympics, 369 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,440 I think in La Yeah. 370 00:22:15,519 --> 00:22:15,759 Speaker 3: Yeah. 371 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,559 Speaker 1: Freddie Heitz was my He was my stunt double on that, 372 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,519 and I had him you know, like football, when you 373 00:22:22,559 --> 00:22:25,720 get all suited up and then you're seeing each other, 374 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,160 you know, pop each other like that and get you 375 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,720 all hit and the way. And I had to do 376 00:22:30,759 --> 00:22:33,480 the scene going around the ledge. I wanted him to 377 00:22:33,519 --> 00:22:36,039 really really get me all shaken up. And then at 378 00:22:36,079 --> 00:22:39,119 the end when I come tumbling back in and I'm 379 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,839 covered and sweat and I'm just the pigeon has already 380 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:47,799 pecked away. I just wiped out, and I wanted to 381 00:22:47,839 --> 00:22:51,079 really be it just really rattled and exhausted and everything. 382 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,240 And so he was doing that and I really thrust 383 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,839 myself into him and it kind of went off center. 384 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,240 Just a little so his hand. It was all me doing, 385 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,880 you know, I made that mistake. He got me right 386 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,160 there on the sternum and right at the rib and 387 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,160 it kind of separated. It just sort of like a 388 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,559 crack rib, the same feeling as that, but it was 389 00:23:11,599 --> 00:23:14,680 like whoa, and when ahead and I did the scene, 390 00:23:14,839 --> 00:23:18,160 and then on the lunch break, I went to the 391 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,799 dock and they did an X ray and then I 392 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,440 came back and the very next scene back after lunch 393 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:30,079 was the scene after I's he's blown the trumpet behind 394 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,200 me and I turned around, whoa, and I'd slide down 395 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,799 that big curve thing and land on the ledge and 396 00:23:34,839 --> 00:23:37,920 the ledge was right across where that crack was. 397 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:38,599 Speaker 4: Yeah. 398 00:23:38,799 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: So they're looking at Daily and say, God, yeah, you 399 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,960 really really looking like you're really showing the stuff. And 400 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:52,400 I said, I am, but gosh, that was a really 401 00:23:52,559 --> 00:23:54,880 it was a neat thing. Kenny McMillan was wonderful to 402 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:59,480 work with. It was such a great actor. And Jimmy 403 00:23:59,519 --> 00:24:04,400 Woods was in the first section of Allan King and 404 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,359 Jimmy Woods. Jimmy Woods one of the best actors of 405 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:14,119 his generation. I think he is good. I hated all 406 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,000 the stuff that happened to him, and I loved seeing, 407 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,799 you know, him being able to claw out of the abyss, 408 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:28,240 and that was his whole idea. The Oppenheimer that came 409 00:24:28,279 --> 00:24:31,799 from his idea and his script I think originally was 410 00:24:31,839 --> 00:24:34,279 actually I think they invited him up on stage when 411 00:24:34,279 --> 00:24:38,079 they got the award for that, so that was really 412 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,519 cool to see. But he's just great. And little miss Barrymore, 413 00:24:44,279 --> 00:24:46,319 who had known since she was the tiny little thing 414 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:53,279 before I think before what was the alien, yeah, before et. 415 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,559 My friend had written a script that was like an 416 00:24:56,599 --> 00:25:03,119 airplane version of Hamlet. Okay, so instead of you know, 417 00:25:04,079 --> 00:25:08,559 doing like stabbing the guy in the back, you'd slap 418 00:25:08,599 --> 00:25:11,599 a kick me sign on him, you know, uh when 419 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,720 m King is sitting there and he's got his legs 420 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,680 crossed Hamlet and sneak up and put matches in his 421 00:25:16,799 --> 00:25:21,440 shoe and light hotwood. So it's just silly, silly stuff. 422 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,119 And my friend wrote it and I directed it at 423 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,240 the Variety Arts Theater and in the beginning we had 424 00:25:28,519 --> 00:25:33,200 an interview with the translator. The translator was Ildeco Jade, 425 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,519 who is little Barrymore's her mom. That's her her mom. 426 00:25:37,839 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. 427 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: So so so, gosh, why can't I think of her? 428 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:42,559 Speaker 5: Drew? 429 00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: Drew? God, So Drew is all arounding around and I'd say, 430 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,240 come on, Drew, sit down, sit down here, get up here, 431 00:25:50,279 --> 00:25:53,359 sit on my lap, and so, okay, can let's run 432 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,240 that again. And I were sitting there on my lap 433 00:25:55,319 --> 00:25:57,640 or running all around and getting her to sit down, 434 00:25:58,799 --> 00:26:03,279 and uh, and then she does the breast of that. 435 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:08,000 Her career is pretty remarkable. So I was kind of fun. 436 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:14,559 But yeah, oh my god, I've just been really lucky. 437 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,640 Talking with some friends about that, buddy, just I don't know, 438 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,000 a few years ago we were talking about it, said, God, 439 00:26:22,039 --> 00:26:25,519 were we lucky that time period that we got to 440 00:26:25,559 --> 00:26:27,920 work in. It was just all so much fun. It 441 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,000 was just all the stuff. It was great now, you know. 442 00:26:32,079 --> 00:26:34,119 And then we complained about, now, look at all the 443 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,559 junk you got to go through and wear a mask 444 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,960 and make sure you got all the you know. And 445 00:26:41,599 --> 00:26:43,960 I remember sitting on a set when I was like 446 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,359 in my twenties, just starting out, and another guy and 447 00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:53,799 we both had you know, bit parts, and there were 448 00:26:53,839 --> 00:26:57,160 two old guys sitting over near us, and they were 449 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,039 probably listening to us. We're all excited about that I 450 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,519 got that, and then they just turned to each other 451 00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:04,599 and they say, God, I remember when it used to 452 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:09,680 be great, you know, like and they were really old. 453 00:27:10,319 --> 00:27:18,799 They were like fifty fifty five, right, and they were 454 00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:20,839 talking about when they were in their twenties and thirties 455 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,920 and how great it was. And then as I was 456 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,319 doing this, my friend were talking about that, and god, yeah, 457 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,960 it was so great. And I thought, you know, my 458 00:27:28,079 --> 00:27:31,640 son has done a few films. Now he's mainly in music, 459 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,759 but he's done a few films, and he's probably thinking 460 00:27:35,799 --> 00:27:39,480 how great it is. I think it's terrible. All the 461 00:27:40,039 --> 00:27:43,839 rigid structure's weird. There's something kind of cold about it, 462 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,599 and the video stuffs, and you don't have the old camera, 463 00:27:47,759 --> 00:27:52,720 the old you know, film breaking and right, oh got 464 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,079 we got we gotta dust thing in the Atlanza. Dudes, 465 00:27:56,079 --> 00:28:00,000 shoot it again, you know, Oh, don't open up the magazine. Oh, 466 00:27:59,759 --> 00:28:05,559 you know, and excitement of making movies. So I don't know, 467 00:28:05,799 --> 00:28:09,200 very very very lucky. Everyone's lucky at their own times. 468 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,640 I guess I was gonna say, I'm curious to your opinion. 469 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,799 Speaker 2: You've been you know, you've been in the industry for 470 00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:18,480 a long time, and there definitely has been a change. 471 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 3: I mean we talk about it all the time. 472 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,079 Speaker 2: That's why we go we cover the movies that were 473 00:28:22,319 --> 00:28:24,400 that were going on in the eighties and the nineties, 474 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,920 because that we feel like was the end of the 475 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,319 era and that when you know, when the two thousands 476 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,319 came along, something happened, something changed, and you would you would. 477 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,599 I mean, We've looked at summer releases over twenty years 478 00:28:37,839 --> 00:28:40,519 and you would just have I mean just movie after 479 00:28:40,599 --> 00:28:43,920 movie after movie coming out in the same month that 480 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,839 we're all just brilliant movies. And now it seems like 481 00:28:47,319 --> 00:28:51,440 we're lucky to get one or two a year. And 482 00:28:51,519 --> 00:28:53,119 so what do you what's your opinion on it? 483 00:28:53,119 --> 00:28:59,359 Speaker 1: What happened? No, No, it's I don't know exactly. I 484 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,400 think a lot of it is the corporate structure. It's 485 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,960 like when the Golden Age of Hollywood, they say that 486 00:29:06,079 --> 00:29:08,920 was the greatest year in the history of Hollywood. It 487 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,200 was nineteen thirty nine. All of the films that came out, 488 00:29:12,319 --> 00:29:15,200 the films that came out that were never nominated even 489 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,480 would be hands down Oscar winners. That's how incredible that 490 00:29:19,599 --> 00:29:25,319 whole thing was. Jimmy Stewart for one of my if 491 00:29:25,359 --> 00:29:27,559 not my all time favorite, one of my absolute all 492 00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:31,839 time favorite films. Mister Smith goes to Washington and he 493 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:37,240 didn't get that. That was unbelievable, unbelievable, and then he 494 00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:40,599 gets it. I think it was the next year, was 495 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,359 it when he got it for Hepburn carry Grant. They 496 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:50,279 redid it with Grace Kelly and Ben Crosby, and then 497 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,000 Frank Sinatra played the role that Jimmy Stewart played the photographer, 498 00:29:54,039 --> 00:29:57,839 and the writer was a woman was a writer, and 499 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,400 they came out to Long Island and it was the 500 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,160 big wedding and the rich girl marrying the guy and 501 00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:06,960 you know, gets back together with bing or in that 502 00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:10,559 case Carrie Grant in the first case that she had 503 00:30:10,599 --> 00:30:13,279 been married to and then they wind up getting back 504 00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:15,039 married again. But I can't it's a famous thing, and 505 00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:17,640 that anyway, that's what he gets. He gets the Supporting 506 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,519 Actor for that. You should have got an Academy Award 507 00:30:20,599 --> 00:30:24,920 for mister Smith. But anyway, that was that was they 508 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,799 call it the Golden Age. Then that was the greatest 509 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,880 year in the history of Hollywood. Then you have a 510 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,480 whole thing through the fifties where you had Marlon Brando 511 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:45,200 and James Dean and that rebellious thing and John Garfield 512 00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:48,480 in the late forties into the fifties, and that was 513 00:30:48,519 --> 00:30:51,279 a more of a you know, the the anti hero 514 00:30:51,559 --> 00:30:56,400 kind of you know, and get more grit, even though 515 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:02,960 their wardrobe oftentimes looked very dry cleaned. And then you have, 516 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,680 speaking of that, you go into the sixties where they 517 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,920 show the cowboys and the Pioneers, and instead of having 518 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,240 Roy Rogers hat that's so perfectly buffed and his fringe 519 00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:17,920 is all combed out and you know, everything is dry 520 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,319 clean and perfect for every scene, you have them looking 521 00:31:21,359 --> 00:31:23,960 like they've just been blowing their nose for the past 522 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,440 couple of months in their shirt and wiping their hands 523 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,799 on it, grit under their fingernails, and so it became 524 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,880 like hyper realistic. You know, we're going to get so 525 00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:38,119 grimy that you can smell it from the theater, you know. Yeah, 526 00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:42,519 And so then it became that became and also that's 527 00:31:42,519 --> 00:31:47,279 when they started noticing lens flares, which were always considered defects. 528 00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:50,599 So you'd have the sun would make a big flare 529 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,000 across the lens, and that brings attention to the fact 530 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,799 that you've got a camera and it's making a flare, 531 00:31:56,839 --> 00:31:58,680 and it's like, that's a no no, that's a big 532 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,720 no no. But all of a sudden in the sixties 533 00:32:00,759 --> 00:32:04,400 that became, well, man, it's really cool. I guess maybe 534 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,839 it's a little acid left over from last night. That's 535 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,920 really cool. And so that's what. All of a sudden, 536 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,079 you got all these things. And then they do the 537 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,559 drawing little lines on the glass and putting it in front, 538 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,440 and the light would hit it and then it would 539 00:32:19,599 --> 00:32:22,519 just have a little star bursts all over, you know, 540 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,480 and you get a little light glinting off your tooth 541 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:27,920 and you put that on and you have a star 542 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,799 going off the tooth. So all these things kind of 543 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,640 started changing it. And then and then it got into 544 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,720 the video when you had all of the old soap 545 00:32:42,759 --> 00:32:48,480 operas which were so cold and stark, and it was 546 00:32:48,519 --> 00:32:51,240 that video you didn't have the warmth of a film, 547 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,519 you know. The film emulsion just had this real great 548 00:32:55,559 --> 00:32:59,000 feel to it. The black and white even had that. 549 00:32:59,079 --> 00:33:02,799 It was just so you know, soft, the textures to everything, 550 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,519 and the soap operas were just cut. It's just a 551 00:33:06,519 --> 00:33:09,599 frozen chunk of ice that you etch out the image, right. 552 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,839 And then they started you know the process of making 553 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,640 the plugins, and you make plugins that you can put 554 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,480 in the computer too. There was a process they had 555 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,480 when they started shooting the sitcoms with the the video 556 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,279 and once it's all done, completely done, even have the 557 00:33:29,319 --> 00:33:32,799 titles on it, everything, they pass it through this whole 558 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,079 process with the software in the computer that would give 559 00:33:37,119 --> 00:33:41,920 it that warm tone, soft kind of feel of films. 560 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,880 And now that's just kind of like, you know, the 561 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,319 quality of videos is pretty remarkable now, but it's still real. 562 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,160 It can be crisper than film ever was you so 563 00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:56,960 all of those things and they've affected the I think 564 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:02,759 they've affected the acting, They've affected the directing, and you 565 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:08,000 have really brilliant performances now, and you have a lot 566 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,760 of stuff that's like, how the hell are they getting 567 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:17,599 away with this? Is this is so bad? And they 568 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,280 wanted me to come and do a guest spot on 569 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,920 a TV show and I looked at an episode of 570 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,800 the thing. I went, I can't are you kidding? This 571 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,880 thing is so bad. It is so bad. And they said, 572 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,760 but this is one of the highest rated shows on TV. 573 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,159 I said, man, that is a big problem. That's a 574 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,960 huge problem for everybody. If this is the best you got. 575 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:47,440 Oh man, Oh my god. So so it's just god. 576 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,079 I love old movies. I mean, I just love old 577 00:34:50,119 --> 00:34:52,760 movies and the black and whites and the film noirs 578 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,320 and and and I love seeing black and whites as 579 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:02,159 black and whites. When Turner started colorizing things, and people 580 00:35:02,199 --> 00:35:04,159 would tell me yeah, but they went back and they 581 00:35:04,199 --> 00:35:07,360 researched it, and they found out what the actual colors were. Well, 582 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,519 my buddy's his uncle Teddy just I mean, he's got 583 00:35:11,559 --> 00:35:15,320 a lot of family in theater since the eighteen hundreds, 584 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:21,000 big family stuff. And also his mom's his mom's cousin. 585 00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:26,760 I guess his mom's mother's sisters daughters. I'd be her cousin. 586 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:32,039 So his first cousin, once removed, was a woman. She 587 00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:34,519 had gone off. The cousin had gone off and married 588 00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:37,599 this guy in Tijuana and they had a review and 589 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,079 their daughter had become sort of the star of the review. 590 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,320 And she came up when she was young to Hollywood 591 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,480 and started working. But she was sixteen, I think some 592 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:53,079 of the Andy Hardy movies, and she changed her last 593 00:35:53,159 --> 00:35:57,320 name Cansino to Their name was Haworth, and she changed 594 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:03,199 it to Hayworth be to Hayworth was. That's kind of 595 00:36:03,199 --> 00:36:07,559 part of his family. Well, Teddy Haworth, his uncle Teddy 596 00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:10,760 was a production designer and he did The Wild One 597 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,480 with Marlon Brando. Yeah, he won the Academy Award for 598 00:36:14,599 --> 00:36:22,920 Marty remember that John Conry Ernie borgnine, No, Marney Marnie 599 00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:26,599 was with Sean Connery. Marty was the old you know, 600 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,920 the big fat Italian guy. Hey Marty, what do you 601 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,440 want to do? I don't know, Sally, what do you 602 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:32,920 want to do? I don't know what do you want? 603 00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 5: I mean? 604 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: It was just that slight life in New York. But 605 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,039 he won the Academy Award for that, and he won 606 00:36:39,039 --> 00:36:41,880 the Academy Award for Cyanara with Marlon Brando and Red 607 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,719 Buttons and over in Japan, that whole thing. He was 608 00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:50,920 nominated five times, maybe sometimes he said. The first thing 609 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,119 he would ask when the producer came with, you know, 610 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,159 they said, here's the film we want to do. The 611 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,480 very first thing he would ask is as a production designer, 612 00:37:01,199 --> 00:37:02,599 was is it you're going to shoot it in color? 613 00:37:02,639 --> 00:37:05,119 Black and white? Because if it's in color, you've got 614 00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:07,599 a color scheme that you're going to use. If it's 615 00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:10,480 black and white, you choose all the colors for the 616 00:37:10,559 --> 00:37:14,400 graduations of color of grays on the gray scale. So 617 00:37:14,559 --> 00:37:16,760 if they say, well we found out what the real 618 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,360 color was, well that was the key to the gray scale. 619 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,440 It's supposed to be in black and white. So what 620 00:37:24,519 --> 00:37:26,639 you've just done is taken them Onna Lisa and say, well, 621 00:37:26,639 --> 00:37:28,679 we found out that you actually had a big booger 622 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,480 hanging out her nose, and we put it out there 623 00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:35,760 because it's cool, you know, It's yeah. I just despise 624 00:37:36,039 --> 00:37:41,039 that kind of stuff. And so I love I love 625 00:37:41,119 --> 00:37:43,840 those old films. They're just so great, authentic. 626 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:44,679 Speaker 3: You know. 627 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,159 Speaker 4: I was talking to d just the other day about 628 00:37:47,159 --> 00:37:49,400 one of your old movies and I hate to keep 629 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:50,079 you keep. 630 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 3: Going, but. 631 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:53,760 Speaker 1: Shove it. You're getting old. 632 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 4: Take this job and shove It was an early HBO 633 00:37:58,039 --> 00:38:00,559 classic for me that I used to love to watch, 634 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,559 and I watched it the other day and I made 635 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,639 a remark to Dee. I'm like, you know, the amount 636 00:38:05,639 --> 00:38:07,880 of beautiful women that he got to kiss in this 637 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:13,320 movie was unbelievableber Hershey young. 638 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: Oh gorgeous. And I got to work with Art Carney, 639 00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:20,800 who is alleged to me he's the greatest of all time. 640 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:25,159 He was just amazing And I loved that and and 641 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,320 uh and also I got to work with a character 642 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,920 actor that It was funny because he was just one 643 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,599 of the guys working down in the beer factory. But 644 00:38:33,679 --> 00:38:35,440 I'd go over to him and I try to engage 645 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,440 him in conversation, but he was just kind of like 646 00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:40,719 just you know, it's very kind, very nice guy. But 647 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,800 and he talked a little bit. But that was Royal Dano. 648 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,880 Do you remember Royal Dano. He used to play Lincoln. 649 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,280 He had that face played Lincoln. He was on a 650 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,599 lot of the rifle Man episode. Yeah, he was on Smoke. Oh. 651 00:38:56,639 --> 00:38:57,679 He was wonderful. 652 00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:58,559 Speaker 3: Yes. 653 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: And his son came up to me at an event. 654 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,519 It was a Surfer's healing event down at the Beach 655 00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:08,639 uh for autistic kids. My friend started and his son 656 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,840 was there and he came up to me and introduced 657 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,639 himself and said, yeah, my dad was an actor and 658 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,519 I think he would work with him, Royal Dane. You know, 659 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,440 I was looting to take this job. Oh my god, 660 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,119 I love Royal dan Oh And he said really and 661 00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:25,960 I said, oh god, yeah, he was one of my favorites. 662 00:39:26,039 --> 00:39:30,280 They said, wow, really, that was so cute. It was 663 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,840 really really neat. But I mean that's uh. I even 664 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,920 got a Barbara Hershey story that I can't tell you. 665 00:39:37,159 --> 00:39:41,760 Speaker 2: It was, Oh, if I take off the if I 666 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,119 hit the record the off record button, can you tell 667 00:39:44,159 --> 00:39:45,039 us that? 668 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh yeah, well I suppose I could if I 669 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,400 if but but yeah, it was she was. She was 670 00:39:55,519 --> 00:39:58,920 really neat. She was really really neat. She was a 671 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:03,880 wonderful lady and a wonderful actress. Gosh, she's she's really amazing. 672 00:40:04,159 --> 00:40:07,360 But well, tell me when you going to push the 673 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:09,719 mute or whatever. 674 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 2: I'm going to do it right now, and everybody else 675 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,840 who's watching is gonna be like, I'm sorry, I don't 676 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:15,239 get to know. 677 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,039 Speaker 3: But all right, I hit this. 678 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,679 Speaker 4: Thank you for sharing that wonderful, wonderful story. 679 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: No, not spread out all over it. 680 00:40:28,559 --> 00:40:32,079 Speaker 3: Right right, let's you have our word. 681 00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:37,760 Speaker 2: That's great, Okay, I got I got one one last 682 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:43,039 question for you. Tell us about something that you love 683 00:40:43,199 --> 00:40:45,960 that you feel like maybe flew under the radar a 684 00:40:46,039 --> 00:40:48,280 little bit that you know you've got. I don't realize 685 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,719 we're talking about forty five years of work here, but 686 00:40:51,079 --> 00:40:52,920 or maybe you know, back in your TP days, fifty 687 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,559 years of work here, but something that you just either 688 00:40:56,599 --> 00:40:59,000 you were proud of it, loved doing it, loved the 689 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,880 final product whatever it might have been, that just didn't 690 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,599 see as much light to day as you wanted it to. 691 00:41:05,519 --> 00:41:13,760 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I'm well, airplane is always you know, I mean, 692 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,840 that's just the jewel in the ground kind of a thing. 693 00:41:17,679 --> 00:41:21,519 But also and Angie, I really loved working with Donna 694 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:27,039 and that was all so much fun. Starman was probably 695 00:41:27,039 --> 00:41:30,480 my number two, I mean, just because of the whole 696 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:35,000 thing and the way it came about, the way what we did. 697 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,199 We really had to fight for it. We had like 698 00:41:38,599 --> 00:41:42,599 six or seven or more time slots. They kept moving 699 00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:45,400 us around, you know, people were trying to find out 700 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,920 where the heck were we. It was a losing battle. 701 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,760 They actually told Bob Murick, who was a friend of mine. 702 00:41:52,119 --> 00:41:55,599 Bob told me when they were at one of those 703 00:41:55,599 --> 00:41:58,039 big you know that you were going to renew for 704 00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:00,880 next year parties in New York. I think they haven't 705 00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:05,119 And they said, the biggest mistake we made that year 706 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,760 was not renewing Starman. And then by then everyone's gone 707 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,320 and they're off doing other thing, so you can't get 708 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:16,840 everyone back again. And that was such a special show, 709 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,400 and I'm sorry that if they had picked it up 710 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,320 for one more season and actually gave it a chance 711 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,440 to where we could build the following and people knew 712 00:42:27,519 --> 00:42:30,559 where it was and they actually told me, they said, well, 713 00:42:30,599 --> 00:42:33,159 we promote the show right before you and then figure 714 00:42:33,159 --> 00:42:39,119 they're going to stay on the channel. What about promoting us? 715 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,599 What the hell? It's like, Oh, well, this is what 716 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,119 we do. You know, go to another network if you 717 00:42:45,159 --> 00:42:48,039 don't like it. You know why. I don't know it. 718 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:54,039 But that was just it was so so special. I 719 00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:56,920 had letters from people. I had letters from a teacher 720 00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,719 in New York that said every night when it was on, 721 00:43:01,039 --> 00:43:02,920 she would tell the class, so when you go home 722 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,719 and you all watch that show, and then the next 723 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,519 day they'd come in and they would talk about it 724 00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:11,000 because she said that it was so such a healthy 725 00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:13,880 relationship with the father and son, and she was in 726 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:18,159 an inner city school where that didn't always happen, and 727 00:43:18,199 --> 00:43:20,519 they used that and she said, I want you to 728 00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:23,159 put that show back on, and I said, well, I 729 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,800 want the show back on too. I don't talk to me, 730 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,840 You've got to talk to the people of the network. 731 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,400 But that was just really, really, really special to me. 732 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,360 Another one that I did that was like you're talking 733 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,280 about under the Radar because it was such a small 734 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,920 little film. John Flynn directed it. It was called on 735 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,519 the one hand, it was called it had so many 736 00:43:48,519 --> 00:43:52,519 different titles. Let me just see real quickly here, no problem. 737 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:58,280 Speaker 2: Robert Hayes is searching his own IMDb history. 738 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 3: I can tell you how many times I've had to 739 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,280 stop the show and win a minute. I got to 740 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:04,400 look at Robert Hayes as I am. 741 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,599 Speaker 1: It was finally called Touched to, which I thought was 742 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:17,880 like a young boy. It was some sunny day. I 743 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,639 was in a mental institution and there's a girl in 744 00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:28,159 there that was it was like developmental. It was. It 745 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,199 was like not being able to concentrate, not being able 746 00:44:31,199 --> 00:44:35,719 to express yourself, like you just you want to and 747 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:40,760 you can't figure out why whatever's blocking you, emotional blocks, 748 00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:44,199 and you get so frustrated that you can lash out. 749 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,320 And so they put me in this place. And it 750 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,960 wasn't like I was committed and I could leave, you know, 751 00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:51,159 like any time you can pull me out. She and 752 00:44:51,199 --> 00:44:54,639 I kind of Kathleen Beller was her name, and she 753 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,400 and I, well, we fell in like we were real 754 00:44:58,519 --> 00:45:01,719 good friends cool. I felt like taking care of her, 755 00:45:02,119 --> 00:45:04,400 and she felt like I was, you know, could take 756 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,480 care of her that she you know, and she was 757 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:12,840 very afraid. And I just left. One night, I left 758 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,360 and we filmed it in Princeton, I think was somewhere 759 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,320 in New Jersey. I left and I go to the 760 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:25,039 boardwalk in New Jersey. I go out to the boardwalk 761 00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:28,320 and I'm wander around and I wind up getting a 762 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,519 job where they throw the ball and hit the target 763 00:45:32,519 --> 00:45:35,440 at dunks the clown up in the in the thing. 764 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,880 And I got a job as the clown. And the 765 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,719 guy that was working there, he gets you know, he 766 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,239 taught me all the different things. And the problem is 767 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,440 several guys that did this in the past show up 768 00:45:47,679 --> 00:45:49,840 needing some money. Hey Mick, can I have you know? 769 00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:53,239 And they're all disfigured it kind of because there are 770 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,960 guys that don't like to be taunted like that. And 771 00:45:56,039 --> 00:45:58,440 so after work they hunt you down and they beat 772 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,400 the crap out of you and so and that happened 773 00:46:02,559 --> 00:46:05,639 to me, happens to me in the show. But what 774 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,880 happened in the course of that was it was like 775 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,920 a healing thing. It opened it up to me I 776 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,719 could express myself and I could be a wise acre, 777 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,519 and I could do all this. And you come up 778 00:46:19,559 --> 00:46:21,920 with all these taunts, and you come up with them 779 00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:24,679 and you write them down and you memorize them, and 780 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,599 it's like, oh, you know, hey, look at look at 781 00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:30,159 the size of this one. When when you say I'm 782 00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:32,559 gonna I'm gonna be around the house, you're around the 783 00:46:32,559 --> 00:46:35,239 house like you never missed the meal, did you. 784 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 5: You know? 785 00:46:36,559 --> 00:46:39,239 Speaker 1: You're months like a golf course, eighteen holes in all green, 786 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,679 you know, these kinds of things, and you see the 787 00:46:43,679 --> 00:46:45,639 guys and then you see those guys that were really 788 00:46:45,679 --> 00:46:47,519 pissed and you focus in on them, and you know 789 00:46:47,559 --> 00:46:50,119 they're gonna be the ones that come and beat me later. 790 00:46:50,559 --> 00:46:53,400 But I go back and I get her and I 791 00:46:53,519 --> 00:46:55,880 bring her back to the little place that I found 792 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,880 that I rant and I'm making enough money to just 793 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,119 be able to rent this tiny little thing, great little 794 00:47:01,199 --> 00:47:03,400 location right on the canal. Kind of a thing. And 795 00:47:04,599 --> 00:47:09,920 it was Working with John Flynn was so incredible for 796 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,159 me because we thought alike, and it was it was 797 00:47:16,599 --> 00:47:20,880 the first time I ever had anyone He said, Okay, well, 798 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,000 I don't like to talk a lot, you know about 799 00:47:24,039 --> 00:47:27,519 all this stuff, and you know, I just wanted to 800 00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:29,400 just get out there and just do it. And I said, 801 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,880 well great, because I don't like to talk about either. 802 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,440 I just liked it, get out and just do it. 803 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:38,360 And he said, oh good, okay. So we were stuck 804 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,360 in the hallway of that little set of that little 805 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,039 place that we were renting, in the hallway to go upstairs. 806 00:47:43,039 --> 00:47:46,559 It was so tight. The camera was right there at 807 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,880 the halfway point stairwell, he was right next to it, 808 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,920 the camera operator was in there was so tight. We 809 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,719 filmed it and it wasn't right, and I felt it 810 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,199 wasn't right. And then I went back up, said let's 811 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,840 go again, and then he leaned. I said hey, Bob 812 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,719 and leaned out, and then I went down. I said yeah, 813 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,760 and I looked at him and he just went like 814 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,679 he was trying to think of something to tell me. 815 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:18,440 And I went and he said, and that was it. Whatever. 816 00:48:18,519 --> 00:48:21,360 Nobody would know what we were talking about. But then 817 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,039 I just went up and it just unlocked one little 818 00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:27,719 thing inside of me and I just did it and 819 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,119 it was just right. It felt right to me, and 820 00:48:30,159 --> 00:48:32,519 he just went like that and that was it. We 821 00:48:32,559 --> 00:48:34,599 moved on. So we'd go out and have dinner or 822 00:48:34,599 --> 00:48:37,039 a bunch of us in the crew and everybody, and 823 00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:40,559 you know, we'd have lots of guinness or whatever we're happening. 824 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:46,199 And he opened up one night after a few drinks. 825 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,840 He said, whenever I'm watching you, he says, I actually 826 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,760 whenever I'm shooting a scene, I don't watch you. I 827 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,559 watch everybody else. And I was thinking, is that a 828 00:48:56,599 --> 00:49:00,800 compliment or is this like he just can't stand And 829 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,800 he said, it's only one other actor that I ever 830 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,480 that I did that with, and that was Robert Duvall, 831 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,400 because he did a film with Robert Duval And he said, 832 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,360 I always know that you guys are going to be 833 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,920 doing everything just right. I'm watching everybody else to figure 834 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,159 wait a minute, we got to do it. And I thought, man, 835 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,400 that's one of the highest compliments I ever had. 836 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 5: Love it. 837 00:49:22,119 --> 00:49:26,400 Speaker 1: And that movie some sunny day or Touched or whatever, 838 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:33,320 it wound up tied up with, you know, the producers 839 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,320 that were getting the money together and asking it from 840 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,800 their parents and their parents' friends and everyone they could, 841 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,679 and so it probably got all tied up anyway. I 842 00:49:42,679 --> 00:49:46,320 don't think it's even available anymore. And I really loved it. 843 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,519 It was just a little tiny independent film that we 844 00:49:49,559 --> 00:49:51,920 did that was just a real to me, a little 845 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,840 gem that I I always wanted to go find it, 846 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,920 see if I could just buy it and I would 847 00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,199 have it and I could just Yeah. Yeah, I was 848 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,000 proud of the work. Yeah, I love it. 849 00:50:03,079 --> 00:50:05,760 Speaker 3: We'll see if we can track it down. Yeah, that'd 850 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:06,119 be great. 851 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,639 Speaker 4: Okay, the only thing I would really like to hear 852 00:50:08,639 --> 00:50:11,119 about one last thing, and if I can stretch it. 853 00:50:12,119 --> 00:50:14,960 You were Tony Stark, I mean you were iron Man. 854 00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:17,840 Tell me about that experience. 855 00:50:19,039 --> 00:50:23,480 Speaker 1: That was really fun. I love doing the voiceover things. 856 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,199 It's a lot of fun. But it's actually it's such 857 00:50:26,199 --> 00:50:28,719 a click it's really hard to get into it. And 858 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,440 there are people that act actors that just do that. 859 00:50:32,519 --> 00:50:35,960 They don't really pursue being on camera. They're not as 860 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,280 comfortable with that. And they're very good. I mean, some 861 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,079 of these guys are just amazing for their voices and 862 00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:45,519 what they can do, and so I really enjoyed that. 863 00:50:45,639 --> 00:50:48,000 I had a lot of fun doing it. Some of 864 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,920 the most fun was when they say, Okay, now we 865 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,320 got a Mexican tug boat captain who wants to do that? 866 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 3: One? 867 00:50:53,559 --> 00:50:58,519 Speaker 1: I said, and then you're guy who is you know 868 00:50:59,119 --> 00:51:01,480 is very so that was some of the most fun. 869 00:51:01,519 --> 00:51:06,239 But but who's that my cost John John's last name. 870 00:51:06,559 --> 00:51:09,280 He actually did the voice of iron Man before me, 871 00:51:09,679 --> 00:51:12,119 and it was in it came out on VHS, that's 872 00:51:12,119 --> 00:51:19,719 how old it was, Okay, and he was in Airplane two. 873 00:51:20,039 --> 00:51:24,840 I think it was in the courtroom scene. Yeah, I 874 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,800 think it was in the courtroom scene with Perry Mason 875 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:31,320 as our chidg. Yeah. And when they asked him and 876 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,480 what's your impression of Ted Strikers And I'm sorry, I 877 00:51:33,519 --> 00:51:34,400 don't do impressions. 878 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. 879 00:51:36,559 --> 00:51:39,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great and you would know him in a second. 880 00:51:39,599 --> 00:51:43,000 He did so many things over the decades and decades 881 00:51:43,039 --> 00:51:46,159 of a career and wonderful, wonderful actor with big, deep 882 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,280 voice kind of like Leslie's, you know, a big, deep, 883 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,760 mellifolous voice like that. But he did. He's the first 884 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,039 one that I know of that did did Iron Man 885 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,920 and it was fun. It was fun. And then doing 886 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,719 that in some of the other Superman or whatever, the 887 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,039 other shows, Spider Man where you had that same universe 888 00:52:06,119 --> 00:52:11,039 of characters in the hull. Yeah, yeah, man, that was fun. 889 00:52:11,119 --> 00:52:12,000 It was a lot of fun. 890 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 4: Well, this has been a wonderful day. Thank you so 891 00:52:15,639 --> 00:52:17,159 much for taking so much time with us. 892 00:52:17,199 --> 00:52:18,039 Speaker 3: We're so grateful. 893 00:52:18,079 --> 00:52:20,880 Speaker 1: I'm just checking real clothes to see if I did 894 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,199 my ted striker on you, and I think so. I've 895 00:52:23,199 --> 00:52:24,920 seen little x's where the eyes used to be. 896 00:52:26,679 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 4: No, no way. We're thrilled. 897 00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:30,599 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 898 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,159 Speaker 2: Eat it all up, absolutely well, Thank you everybody. This 899 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:38,400 has been an amazing experience. Please hit that follow button, 900 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:43,440 hit that subscribe button. Please check out the Airplane Livetour 901 00:52:43,559 --> 00:52:46,800 dot com so that you can see when when Robert 902 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,880 Hayes and Julie Haggerty are going to be at a 903 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,679 theater near you talking to all of you about their 904 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,840 wonderful experiences making this movie. Robert, I can't tell you 905 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,719 thank you enough, really appreciate you. 906 00:52:58,760 --> 00:52:59,400 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. 907 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,000 Speaker 1: It was great fun. This is great. I actually this 908 00:53:03,039 --> 00:53:05,119 has got to be one of my This is the 909 00:53:05,159 --> 00:53:08,199 longest one I think that I've done, and it's got 910 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,440 to be one of my favorites because we just had 911 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,519 so much fun with it, and that's really cool since 912 00:53:16,519 --> 00:53:23,000 it's the name that it is. Yeah, and also the 913 00:53:23,079 --> 00:53:28,679 fact that Julie just popped up that was amazing. 914 00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 3: Okay, thank you guys. We will see you guys next week.