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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everyone, Tony from Hack the Movies here and today

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about returned to Silent Hill.

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<v Speaker 2>We're finally going back.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it good? Is it a huge letdown? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>the worst Silent Hill film? Let's find out today on

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<v Speaker 1>Hack the Movies. Oh my god, Monica Dan, Hello, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you? How are you so glad to I'm you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I luckily there was a huge winter storm

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<v Speaker 1>that prevented a lot of people from seeing this when

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<v Speaker 1>it came out, so it wasn't a priority. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, God was stopping selfish people who decided

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<v Speaker 1>to have a kid when Silent Hill three was coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give them like five or six months and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>wait for it to hit Disney Plus apparently, and I

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<v Speaker 1>will review it.

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<v Speaker 3>Then our son knew. He was just like, this turns.

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<v Speaker 2>Out, so we all looked out. I would have been

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<v Speaker 2>really bums this in theater.

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<v Speaker 4>He was really trying to save us.

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<v Speaker 2>He was trying to warn everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, no, no, mom, Dad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this was gonna be a bigger deal and

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<v Speaker 1>it ended up not being a big deal. Although it

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<v Speaker 1>made money, it like apparently was very I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you do this, but the movie apparently was very cheap.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I get that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it almost.

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<v Speaker 1>Looks like some of the effects aren't done, so they

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<v Speaker 1>rushed that out. But yeah, this has been a long

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<v Speaker 1>time coming.

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<v Speaker 2>This is six years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Christoph Ganz said he wanted to do another one,

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<v Speaker 1>but he didn't want it to be a sequel.

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<v Speaker 2>To the first one.

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<v Speaker 1>He wanted to do like a you know, like a

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<v Speaker 1>Twilight Zone sort of thing where everyone has different adventures

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<v Speaker 1>in this town and maybe it's not even the same town,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what the games did obviously.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I was gonna say that's technically the concept

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<v Speaker 3>of Style Hill too. Yeah, they all have different experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think three ties into one because of the girl,

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<v Speaker 1>but other than that, they're all just kind of their

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<v Speaker 1>own thing. But yeah, he really really wanted to do

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<v Speaker 1>Silent Hill too, And we know he liked Silent Hill too,

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<v Speaker 1>because he worked in a bunch of Silent Hill two

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<v Speaker 1>stuff into the first movie where it didn't really belong

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<v Speaker 1>like Pyramid Head yep. And I guess around this time

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<v Speaker 1>they were developing the Silent Hill to remake game because

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<v Speaker 1>Gans worked with Organs worked with Kunami to create new

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<v Speaker 1>designs for the monsters, and they look like they're ripped

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<v Speaker 1>out of the new game. I feel like this was

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<v Speaker 1>a two for one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, yeah, because pyramid.

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<v Speaker 1>Head and this looks almost exactly like the Pyramid had

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<v Speaker 1>in the game. A couple monsters in this look exactly

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<v Speaker 1>like they do in the game. So yeah, And we

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<v Speaker 1>were supposed to actually obviously January, but we thought this

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna come out like two years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he said, I have the quote here.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, it's supposed to be finished in April twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four, but the producers kept dragging their feet or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So it took forever for this thing to get fit

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<v Speaker 1>and come out because we were talking years ago, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to do Silent Hill in a few months maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>So he had more time to work on this.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell me, well, he had like a year and a

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<v Speaker 4>half extra.

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<v Speaker 1>There was time to work on it. I'm sure he

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<v Speaker 1>had other movies to work on.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, no, no, no no no, I don't accept that.

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<v Speaker 1>And again they got a Kiraamo from the Games to

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<v Speaker 1>come back and do the music, and it stars Jeremy

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<v Speaker 1>Irvine from Warhorse, Where are My Warhorse?

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<v Speaker 2>Fans at Steven Spielberg's war Horse.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what that is.

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<v Speaker 1>He was also in Mama Mia, Here we Go Again.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see that either. Those were the only two

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I get it, he's I think it's Harry, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I just said I didn't watch it, so I pretty

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<v Speaker 3>sure he's Harry.

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<v Speaker 1>No, and playing three different characters is Hannah Emily Anderson,

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<v Speaker 1>who maybe one day I'll see her in a good movie,

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<v Speaker 1>but I only saw her in Jigsaw.

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<v Speaker 2>Which actually wasn't terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like that it was the first of the

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<v Speaker 1>copycat Saul movies. And recently, I think maybe even before

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<v Speaker 1>this review or maybe after this review, depending on what

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<v Speaker 1>the schedule is. She's Jean Grey's mom in the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of X Men Dark Phoenix who dies horribly very important.

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<v Speaker 4>Role We're hiring you to Die.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think she was in the Perge TV series.

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<v Speaker 1>But those are the two biggest actors that jumped out

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<v Speaker 1>except for the girl plays Lara. Did you know the

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<v Speaker 1>fun fact with her?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Same girl from the game. Yes. And she was also

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<v Speaker 2>in Wednesday season two.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder if she started doing this movie and was like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I just did this game and then did the movie.

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<v Speaker 4>Is like, wait a minute, this isn't what I just did.

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<v Speaker 3>That.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but apparently she had an NDA with the video

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<v Speaker 1>game was yeah, she wasn't allowed to tell them so

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<v Speaker 1>that she auditioned for the part and she couldn't say like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm already in.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Feel like there should be some sort of like agreement

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<v Speaker 4>with the NBA saying, hey, we're making a movie to

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<v Speaker 4>accurately represent this, and maybe we can.

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<v Speaker 1>Should be like, hey, if you get cast in the

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<v Speaker 1>movie version of we could tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, so they didn't get what's his name?

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<v Speaker 1>The writer from the first one back who you know

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<v Speaker 1>killed that guy?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>And right now he's making.

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<v Speaker 1>A AI production company to make AI films because we

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned this in the Dark City review, because that director is.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel bad for some of these Maybe not so

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<v Speaker 1>much this guy, because you know, he didn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>drive drunk and kill a guy. But I feel bad

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<v Speaker 1>for some of these older guys who can't get funding

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<v Speaker 1>because maybe they had a couple of movies like bumb

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<v Speaker 1>what to say?

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<v Speaker 2>Because he basically said. He's like, I don't know why

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<v Speaker 2>I'm blanking on his name right now.

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<v Speaker 1>He's basically like, I tried to make so many movies

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<v Speaker 1>said I had an a start up and suddenly all

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<v Speaker 1>the money came in. I'm like, that's rough. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't asked back. Wonder why so? Christoph wrote this

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<v Speaker 1>with Sandra vou On, whose only writing credit is Christoph

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<v Speaker 1>Gan's Beauty in the Beast movie, which is just scenario

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<v Speaker 1>in some dialogue that that's our only credit before this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but don't worry the other guy, William Joseph Schneider. He

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<v Speaker 1>has a credit for a big movie that came out

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<v Speaker 1>a few years back, The Crow remake.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, okay, I did not see that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're not missing out. There's like one good fight

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<v Speaker 2>scene in it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's one he goes into an opera house and he

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<v Speaker 1>can't be killed and that was pretty cool. But unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta watch the rest of the movie and I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't recommend it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't at this point. I probably could just find

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<v Speaker 3>it online, right, just that scene.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what YouTube? Opera house fight?

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<v Speaker 1>The Crow and then just just imagine what the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the movie was. Yeah, so we really got a

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<v Speaker 1>crack team here making return to Silent Hill.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, people love that first movie. It's become like

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of a cult classic. People love Silent Hill too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. The video game, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>And the remake of the game coming out right before this.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone was hyped and they were expecting a really, really

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<v Speaker 4>I had to do one thing. He already had source

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<v Speaker 4>material even before the new one came out. He just

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<v Speaker 4>had to do one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>This is And I know we said that this movie

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<v Speaker 1>was fine and fun. I know it's not a great movie.

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<v Speaker 1>But Resident Evil Welcome to Raccoon City.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see that one?

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<v Speaker 1>The last Resident Evil movie.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not great, but like.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it stayed kind of close to the

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<v Speaker 3>source material.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the problem is they tried to do two games

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<v Speaker 1>at once that aren't You can't do Resident one and

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<v Speaker 1>two at the same time.

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<v Speaker 4>It just doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>Two and three you can because those games are at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is kind of like that, where like those

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<v Speaker 1>remakes had just came out, so like all the sets

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<v Speaker 1>look like the games that you're playing, And that's similar

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<v Speaker 1>to this the sets do look pretty similar to the game.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some locations that look like they're right right out

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<v Speaker 1>of the new game. But where it lacks is the story.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and the many liberties they took.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, which is funny because this one you didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to take as many liberties like we with Rackhoum City.

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<v Speaker 1>You're shoving two very different games together. You're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to take liberties. They all don't work this one. They're

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<v Speaker 1>this I don't want to say it was easier to adapt,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's less characters.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's not many characters you have to work with.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you honestly, you can eliminate one or two

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<v Speaker 1>of them, and they probably should have eliminated well, to

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<v Speaker 1>the point you could have just left out Eddie altogether

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<v Speaker 1>because he resembles nothing of the game.

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<v Speaker 4>Character had to reshoot the initial scene with Laura then,

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<v Speaker 4>which I guess they didn't have time to do, because

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<v Speaker 4>he's inserted into the initial meeting scene with Laura. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and then he runs away and to never be seen again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I thought that was very bizarre. He also doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have his backwards hat nope. Yeah, oh sorry, just a

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<v Speaker 1>little background here.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the first.

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<v Speaker 1>Time I'm going into one of these movies knowing the

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<v Speaker 2>I played the remake.

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<v Speaker 4>That's cute.

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<v Speaker 1>I got the James leaves town with Laura ending. What

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<v Speaker 1>ending did you guys get?

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<v Speaker 4>The bad one?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the bad one where he commits suicide bea water Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>the ending.

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<v Speaker 1>That Christoph said was his favorite and that's why he

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<v Speaker 1>chose to adapt it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's bad ending. Yeah, but I didn't realize that the

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<v Speaker 4>game we were really cultivating the bad ending because when

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<v Speaker 4>I when I play games, I only heal when it's

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely necessary. So half the game I'm James is like

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<v Speaker 2>But like Monica went left in the one area.

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<v Speaker 4>No, you don't get took that easily. I do. I

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<v Speaker 3>I love playing these games. But I also panic a lot, so.

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<v Speaker 2>I really enjoyed the game.

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<v Speaker 4>She has gotten to be a better shot, though, I

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<v Speaker 4>will give her that's good. When we first started playing,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't I do that now.

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<v Speaker 4>Now she maybe misses once or twice.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there was.

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<v Speaker 1>One Monsters getting better at like ten shots.

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<v Speaker 2>Could not get The thing was that I played.

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<v Speaker 1>I was really playing Resident before last year, and I

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<v Speaker 1>had like the sniper where he grabs the girl and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, let me kill that guy shut

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<v Speaker 1>her in the head. I'm like, no, that's the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like what. I was impressed I got a headshot,

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<v Speaker 1>but unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we got to work on it, just making

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<v Speaker 4>sure she relots before encounters so she doesn't start her

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<v Speaker 4>next encounter with one bullet in the chamber.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. I enjoyed the game.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very atmosphere, very I liked it way better

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<v Speaker 1>than Silent Hill f which we were just talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>which that was the first one that I was playing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought they.

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<v Speaker 2>Were all like that.

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<v Speaker 1>With breakable weapons and any combat system where I have

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<v Speaker 2>It's not for me.

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<v Speaker 4>Too many items too, Like I'm not Japanese, so I

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<v Speaker 4>can't remember the fucking names of all the struggle.

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<v Speaker 4>Or is this just give me sanity? It's his help

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<v Speaker 4>like and then there's like three different variants of it,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, I don't why why are there's so

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<v Speaker 4>many items?

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<v Speaker 2>I get it was.

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<v Speaker 1>About her, like she had an arranged marriage and she

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<v Speaker 2>I get it, but like there were multiple times I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>why is she aware? Wolf? Now? I was so confused, silent.

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<v Speaker 1>It was way more digestible, better combat, no breakable items

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<v Speaker 1>or anything.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I never got the trending of Salon hill Aft

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<v Speaker 4>because I didn't beat it enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Time to do it, and I won't beat it enough.

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<v Speaker 4>I've always meant to go on YouTube, be like, just

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<v Speaker 4>tell me how this what what's going on? And I

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even watch the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I just googled whatever the endings were. Uh so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I I have the story fresh in my mind and

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<v Speaker 1>I was I was watching this. I'm like, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be smart this time. I'm the expert. Look at me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the expert.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna work out, probably in your favor, because with

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<v Speaker 3>a child, we had to watch this movie multiple times,

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<v Speaker 3>and my brain's just not as fresh the movie lot

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<v Speaker 3>of things already and now I was a baby.

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<v Speaker 4>The movie was so bad that it was good, and

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<v Speaker 4>it was so good bad that it looped around to

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<v Speaker 4>being so bad. I'm so I wish you save this

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<v Speaker 4>for the end, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what's funny about this movie?

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<v Speaker 1>This is the one you know, people are saying that

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<v Speaker 1>movies don't have colors anymore, Like every time there's a

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<v Speaker 1>Disney movie, it's all muddy and stuff. Yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 1>one movie that was allowed to be that. Yeah, open

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<v Speaker 1>on the most colorful thing I've ever seen. And even

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<v Speaker 1>when they're in Silent Hill, like there's bright arms, Just like,

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<v Speaker 1>why is this very colorful when it doesn't have to be?

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<v Speaker 1>And then these movies that are supposed to be colorful

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<v Speaker 1>a look like muddy desaturated bullshit. But yeah, he's driving around, James.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah we have a douchebag James speeding round curve Mustang

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<v Speaker 4>so true to the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who could forget his Mustang that he was driving around?

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, he almost hits the lumber truck. From final

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<v Speaker 1>destination too. Uh, and he swerves out away, runs over

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<v Speaker 1>Mary's suitcase that.

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<v Speaker 3>Was also just kind of in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 3>road already.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know why she left it there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was weird, but yeah, they he runs over

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<v Speaker 1>it and then like they can't piece it together in time.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, just leave bus driver.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I mean, if he could carry it on

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<v Speaker 1>with you and you can try to fix it.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't linger very long, like most bus drivers will be like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll give you a minute, or like a couple of minutes,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe let other people off to use the

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<v Speaker 3>bathroom that's right there. Yeah, and he's just She's just like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, it's not enough time.

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<v Speaker 1>Just go like tape or bungeies, like like, bunge this

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<v Speaker 1>together and get a fixed.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think the even stopped. The bushes kind of

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<v Speaker 4>slowly rolled and then just kept going, like.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta get on, you gotta jump.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like silent Hill. Okay, we gotta going.

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<v Speaker 4>Although that rest stop is true to the beginning of

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<v Speaker 4>the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, Yeah, the locations are almost spot on with this,

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<v Speaker 1>which tricks you into thinking this is gonna.

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<v Speaker 4>Be like the game, and they miss a great opportunity

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<v Speaker 4>right in the beginning there to show you what you

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<v Speaker 4>could see in the beginning of signing too. They should

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<v Speaker 4>have just had a quick glimpse of a b in

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<v Speaker 4>the back or like a like a cloth or something like.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just a quick one, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well we're not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well the body in the back of his car,

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<v Speaker 1>Now that would be weird.

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<v Speaker 4>No, but that's what it is in the game. So

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<v Speaker 4>like in the game, if you being in a game

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<v Speaker 4>when yeah, the car, if you look in the back

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<v Speaker 4>of his car, oh yeah, yeah, I know you could

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<v Speaker 4>see her body. But they should have like did like

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<v Speaker 4>they could have if they were doing things well, they

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<v Speaker 4>could have just did a quick like brushover, not like

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<v Speaker 4>make it obvious at it's air, but just like if

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<v Speaker 4>you like, if you're just paying attention, you could see like.

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<v Speaker 1>Something about this is where he just meets her. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not at the I know, I'm okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm yes, Tony, you're jumping ahead. I'm not jumping ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>This is this is the same point in time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the story.

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<v Speaker 4>I know I'm saying they shouldn't know they.

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<v Speaker 2>Should have in that one scene though, Yes, but yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Here there they're having I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Telling the director how he should have directed his movie.

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<v Speaker 2>You think you know better than the writer of The

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<v Speaker 2>Crow twenty twenty four. Yes, okay, well that's fair.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but this, uh, instead of just starting where it

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<v Speaker 1>should have started, what you said, they were like, let's

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<v Speaker 1>show them meaning so we can understand their love.

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<v Speaker 3>Why he's going through this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but yeah, then it.

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<v Speaker 3>Gets art supplies in the back.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, was he an? I don't think they ever tell you.

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<v Speaker 4>We could just pretend that he was an accountant.

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<v Speaker 3>He's supposed to be like an everyman kind of person,

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<v Speaker 3>and everyman can't do art Monica, he's johns Helen Hill.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're having their met cute and then the sky

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<v Speaker 1>gets all dark and she's like, that's a summer storm

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<v Speaker 1>or something.

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<v Speaker 4>This is not ominous at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. That cuts to her drowning, and then cuts to

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<v Speaker 2>him later, drunk off his ass ignoring his call his

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<v Speaker 2>calls from his therapist, and he gets into a bar

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<v Speaker 2>fight with a.

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<v Speaker 4>Dude who is a therapist. Real.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good question.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it a figment of his imagination?

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, that's a very good question.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's supposed to be ambiguous of.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, yeah, I was like I couldn't, I couldn't parse it, don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know who Sarah was supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how, what was his name, Harry or Henry

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<v Speaker 1>in the first one, you know how that was like

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<v Speaker 1>a studio mandate.

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<v Speaker 2>That they needed to add like a character.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this also a case of that where they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you need a female character other than the one girl.

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<v Speaker 4>There is another female character that they chose not to

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<v Speaker 4>incorporate very well.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're all like played by the same lady though,

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<v Speaker 2>like Angela. You're talking about Angela, Marie and Mary.

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<v Speaker 4>Right Angela?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, they're all the same actress.

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<v Speaker 4>Angela the same actress.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, they're all the same actress. And I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like that's something like you have to put another lady

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<v Speaker 2>in there.

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<v Speaker 4>No I knew, I knew Marie was I didn't piece

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<v Speaker 4>together Angela was it. It just feels like.

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<v Speaker 1>They just needed another actress in there. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why, because it amounts to nothing. There's like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a fake out, but you know it's not gonna.

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<v Speaker 4>Get They could have spent that precious screen time making

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<v Speaker 4>better choices for story direction with other people and.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right about it not knowing if it's supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be real, because they're always filming her underneath like glass.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, like her desk is glad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'm like, okay, that's trippy.

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<v Speaker 1>But then later on it's just like so they feel

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<v Speaker 1>her normally, like, oh, I guess that was just to

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<v Speaker 1>be cool.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't catch it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Weird because then also like when he's looking at his phone,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like kind of like blurry to see like who's

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<v Speaker 3>actually calling him? But I was like, I think maybe

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<v Speaker 3>that's just because he was drunk. Yeah, Like my brain

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<v Speaker 3>was trying to be like ooh, Like he's trying to

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<v Speaker 3>say like maybe it's not really the therapist calling him,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe it's somebody else calling him, and he thinks it's that,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's like, no, he's probably drunk.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but yeah, she tells him like, hey, sober up

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<v Speaker 1>and see me in the morning, and then he goes

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<v Speaker 1>to his giant apartment.

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<v Speaker 2>Artists of movies always have those giant gods.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how they afford it.

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<v Speaker 4>They need a lot of space for their paintings.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>And he finds a letter and it's Mary asking him

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to Silent Ill yep, because they had

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<v Speaker 1>such a good time they lived there, which is different

435
00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:06.240
<v Speaker 1>because in the game they vacation. In the game they

436
00:19:06.279 --> 00:19:10.599
<v Speaker 1>were married and vacation there. Yeah, Here, they just dated

437
00:19:10.759 --> 00:19:11.880
<v Speaker 1>and lived there.

438
00:19:12.440 --> 00:19:14.559
<v Speaker 3>He moved in with her right away, yep.

439
00:19:14.759 --> 00:19:17.200
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, all right, I'm going I'm gonna go,

440
00:19:17.519 --> 00:19:20.000
<v Speaker 1>but the road is closed, and that's when he parks,

441
00:19:20.039 --> 00:19:21.599
<v Speaker 1>this is where they should have had the body in

442
00:19:21.640 --> 00:19:22.839
<v Speaker 1>the back or something like that.

443
00:19:23.240 --> 00:19:26.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they needed to do something more.

444
00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Something to the in the story spoiler for the game story,

445
00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:34.039
<v Speaker 1>he mercy kills her, Yeah, and then he like drives

446
00:19:34.039 --> 00:19:34.759
<v Speaker 1>her to Silent Hill.

447
00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:36.599
<v Speaker 4>Is it really a mercy killing as more as it

448
00:19:36.680 --> 00:19:37.759
<v Speaker 4>is he's frustrated.

449
00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:38.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a little bit both.

450
00:19:39.119 --> 00:19:39.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's the.

451
00:19:39.799 --> 00:19:42.319
<v Speaker 3>Whole point of why he's in this purgatory is because.

452
00:19:42.119 --> 00:19:42.920
<v Speaker 4>Well he feels guilty.

453
00:19:43.039 --> 00:19:43.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

454
00:19:43.279 --> 00:19:45.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, But I don't know. I don't think it was

455
00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:48.960
<v Speaker 4>so much mercy, as he was more or less frustrated

456
00:19:49.000 --> 00:19:53.039
<v Speaker 4>and tired of the being the caregiver for her, and

457
00:19:53.079 --> 00:19:55.279
<v Speaker 4>then they would get into arguments about it because he

458
00:19:55.359 --> 00:19:56.599
<v Speaker 4>felt like he was trapped.

459
00:19:56.680 --> 00:19:58.839
<v Speaker 1>What I meant was it was mercy for him Okay,

460
00:19:58.880 --> 00:20:00.880
<v Speaker 1>it was a mercy for him. He's like, I feel

461
00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:04.559
<v Speaker 1>a lot better now. But yeah, so he's feeling guilty

462
00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:08.039
<v Speaker 1>about doing all that. And then like the monsters there,

463
00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:10.319
<v Speaker 1>like you know, like the sexy nurses. I think it

464
00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:12.519
<v Speaker 1>was like him. He was looking at other nurses when

465
00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:15.079
<v Speaker 1>she was in the hospital and everything, so they actually

466
00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:17.039
<v Speaker 1>have a reason to be here. But like this movie

467
00:20:17.079 --> 00:20:20.119
<v Speaker 1>goes into none of that, really goes into none of that.

468
00:20:20.279 --> 00:20:22.440
<v Speaker 4>Really, it doesn't have time to because it wanted to

469
00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:23.839
<v Speaker 4>do a different direction.

470
00:20:24.200 --> 00:20:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes, but yeah, so he he gets out and he's like,

471
00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:29.559
<v Speaker 1>all right, well I'm gonna go to silent On. As

472
00:20:29.559 --> 00:20:32.319
<v Speaker 1>soon as he steps into the town, the ash falls down.

473
00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:34.960
<v Speaker 1>But then they were like, wait, we got to explain

474
00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:37.960
<v Speaker 1>the ash again, which I mean, you don't. He's just

475
00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:38.440
<v Speaker 1>doing fog.

476
00:20:38.519 --> 00:20:40.480
<v Speaker 4>Doesn't have to be asked, So you don't have to

477
00:20:40.519 --> 00:20:43.839
<v Speaker 4>explain everything. You don't really don't everything. You can leave

478
00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:47.799
<v Speaker 4>something up to the imagination or ambiguity and let people

479
00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:50.559
<v Speaker 4>kind of decide for themselves what it is.

480
00:20:50.720 --> 00:20:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so Angela's there, Yeah, and she tells him that

481
00:20:54.200 --> 00:20:57.240
<v Speaker 1>there were a bunch of forest fires recently and it

482
00:20:57.279 --> 00:20:59.200
<v Speaker 1>made the water bad, and also there was a flood

483
00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:01.319
<v Speaker 1>and she's getting like and bags and putting them on

484
00:21:01.319 --> 00:21:04.640
<v Speaker 1>the edge of the cemetery. The only one taking care

485
00:21:04.680 --> 00:21:07.359
<v Speaker 1>of it, which again played by the same actress. Now,

486
00:21:07.400 --> 00:21:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Angela in the game was just like someone else who

487
00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:12.559
<v Speaker 1>was in the town with her own Yeah.

488
00:21:12.559 --> 00:21:15.319
<v Speaker 3>That she is her own, separate person in the video game. Yep,

489
00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:17.599
<v Speaker 3>it's her own trauma.

490
00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:21.720
<v Speaker 1>Which for some reason James has to deal with. Yeah,

491
00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:23.759
<v Speaker 1>what do they call that creature? This it's called like

492
00:21:23.799 --> 00:21:24.759
<v Speaker 1>the something Daddy.

493
00:21:25.720 --> 00:21:27.559
<v Speaker 3>I forget what it's called exactly, but yeah.

494
00:21:27.559 --> 00:21:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Got a very inappropriate name when you know what the

495
00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:31.039
<v Speaker 1>backstory is, like, I would have called it.

496
00:21:31.559 --> 00:21:35.359
<v Speaker 4>Well, from what I understood, he helps him. The reason

497
00:21:35.400 --> 00:21:37.640
<v Speaker 4>he is helping them with their traumas because he feels

498
00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:41.279
<v Speaker 4>guilty and he thinks that helping other people resolve their

499
00:21:41.319 --> 00:21:44.440
<v Speaker 4>trauma will absolve him of what he's done.

500
00:21:44.559 --> 00:21:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Angela, I guess she was like abused by

501
00:21:47.200 --> 00:21:48.119
<v Speaker 1>her dad and everything.

502
00:21:49.279 --> 00:21:50.920
<v Speaker 4>Abuse is a nice way to put it.

503
00:21:51.200 --> 00:21:54.519
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's it's you toobe. They get weird when you

504
00:21:54.559 --> 00:21:57.200
<v Speaker 2>say certain things, not me, not me.

505
00:21:58.119 --> 00:21:59.400
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, it was super abused.

506
00:21:59.480 --> 00:22:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes, she was super abused by her dad, and James

507
00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:04.839
<v Speaker 1>fights him and he's like a weird bed monster. And

508
00:22:04.920 --> 00:22:08.039
<v Speaker 1>I feel like by making this the same action actress

509
00:22:08.119 --> 00:22:12.880
<v Speaker 1>as Mary and this added dad element that we're gonna

510
00:22:12.920 --> 00:22:15.279
<v Speaker 1>learn about Mary, I feel like they tried to merge

511
00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:19.039
<v Speaker 1>Angela with her and try to use her dad's story

512
00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:21.920
<v Speaker 1>into this new thing. And as we talk about it,

513
00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:24.440
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna realize it doesn't work at all.

514
00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:28.279
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't work. I get what they were going for,

515
00:22:28.480 --> 00:22:35.240
<v Speaker 2>but it doesn't work. So yeah, she's like, hey, you know,

516
00:22:35.400 --> 00:22:37.599
<v Speaker 2>if you you can always come back here if you

517
00:22:37.640 --> 00:22:39.000
<v Speaker 2>can't find what you're looking for.

518
00:22:40.200 --> 00:22:42.640
<v Speaker 1>And then he walks. This is gonna be a common

519
00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:43.559
<v Speaker 1>thing in this film.

520
00:22:43.759 --> 00:22:44.559
<v Speaker 2>James walking.

521
00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well specifically James is walking onto an obvious green screen.

522
00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Looks really bad. Ye, looks really bad and enough, Yeah,

523
00:22:56.519 --> 00:22:59.079
<v Speaker 2>he's not. He looks at that map once he's like,

524
00:22:59.319 --> 00:22:59.720
<v Speaker 2>got it.

525
00:23:00.519 --> 00:23:03.039
<v Speaker 4>I needed him to be checking his map every three minutes.

526
00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:05.720
<v Speaker 3>That's right, Hill in version.

527
00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:10.599
<v Speaker 4>I don't care he has. It's been a long time

528
00:23:10.599 --> 00:23:11.319
<v Speaker 4>since he's been there.

529
00:23:11.400 --> 00:23:13.160
<v Speaker 3>That's why they moved him to the town is because

530
00:23:13.160 --> 00:23:16.359
<v Speaker 3>they're like, we can't have him checking his map every.

531
00:23:16.119 --> 00:23:18.079
<v Speaker 4>Five steps he takes. I want to see him pulling

532
00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:18.799
<v Speaker 4>out a map.

533
00:23:20.200 --> 00:23:21.799
<v Speaker 1>They did do it well in the first one where

534
00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:27.119
<v Speaker 1>she keeps going up to the street corners looking at it. Yeah,

535
00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:30.160
<v Speaker 1>and then he's constantly having flashbacks to him with Mary.

536
00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:30.680
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

537
00:23:31.160 --> 00:23:31.599
<v Speaker 2>I love that.

538
00:23:31.640 --> 00:23:33.640
<v Speaker 1>They're just hanging out in front of the church and

539
00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:36.039
<v Speaker 1>he's just got a giant painting of her face just

540
00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:39.240
<v Speaker 1>off to the side, and they're like, we're in love.

541
00:23:39.359 --> 00:23:43.079
<v Speaker 1>Isn't that great? And then he walks past the Silent

542
00:23:43.160 --> 00:23:50.240
<v Speaker 1>Hills sign Silent Hill, that's the movie. We're watching credits

543
00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:53.519
<v Speaker 1>title sequence of it, coming behind the mountains because they're

544
00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:54.119
<v Speaker 1>trying to look.

545
00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Like Evil Dead Rise.

546
00:23:55.640 --> 00:23:57.319
<v Speaker 1>I know what you were doing there. We're trying to

547
00:23:57.319 --> 00:23:59.279
<v Speaker 1>do the Evil Dead Rise thing.

548
00:23:59.640 --> 00:23:59.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

549
00:23:59.839 --> 00:24:04.680
<v Speaker 1>He's like, Okay, well, I guess I'm here. Now we

550
00:24:04.759 --> 00:24:07.960
<v Speaker 1>get some cool overhead camera stuff. Not as cool as

551
00:24:08.079 --> 00:24:11.480
<v Speaker 1>the first movie, but at least he tries to get

552
00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:13.519
<v Speaker 1>like creative with the camerangles like he did in the

553
00:24:13.559 --> 00:24:16.160
<v Speaker 1>original film. Oh, and he like tries to go down

554
00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:18.359
<v Speaker 1>a street and it's blocked off with all that scaffolding

555
00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:20.960
<v Speaker 1>and everything, which again is like the at least the remake.

556
00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:23.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, that looks again ripped right out of

557
00:24:23.119 --> 00:24:23.440
<v Speaker 2>the game.

558
00:24:23.960 --> 00:24:27.400
<v Speaker 1>He follows the sound of music to a tunnel and

559
00:24:27.480 --> 00:24:31.519
<v Speaker 1>he finds a cryptic message homeless guy.

560
00:24:32.279 --> 00:24:34.400
<v Speaker 4>You don't remember homeless guy from the game.

561
00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:36.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't recall homeless guy going.

562
00:24:36.720 --> 00:24:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Rah, there's monsters. Ah, look at my radio. And he's like, well,

563
00:24:42.680 --> 00:24:45.119
<v Speaker 1>that's nice, homeless guy. I'm gonna go into that place

564
00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:45.559
<v Speaker 1>over there.

565
00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:48.640
<v Speaker 4>Man knows there's monsters in town. Out in the open.

566
00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Yees therapist calls again and she's like, hey, you missed

567
00:24:54.960 --> 00:24:57.680
<v Speaker 1>your appointment. He's like, shut up, lady, up in silent Hill,

568
00:24:58.119 --> 00:24:58.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking for.

569
00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:02.200
<v Speaker 4>Mey, shut up, fake glass lady.

570
00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:06.279
<v Speaker 1>And while he goes into the place, Heaven's night, the

571
00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:11.720
<v Speaker 1>Armless Monster shows up. But don't look as good as

572
00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:12.799
<v Speaker 1>they did last time.

573
00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:15.319
<v Speaker 4>No, they did not. I that was actually one of

574
00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:16.960
<v Speaker 4>the first things I thought to him, like, they looked

575
00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:18.720
<v Speaker 4>way better, and yeah.

576
00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're definitely thinner.

577
00:25:20.440 --> 00:25:22.160
<v Speaker 1>I think they're more feminine this I think they are

578
00:25:22.279 --> 00:25:24.920
<v Speaker 1>women in this one where they were called Armless Man and.

579
00:25:24.839 --> 00:25:26.759
<v Speaker 4>A game for women.

580
00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:29.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so maybe that's it.

581
00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's just I'm used to the other movie versions,

582
00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:33.359
<v Speaker 1>but this one was they're a little too pale.

583
00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:35.160
<v Speaker 2>They kind of blend in with the background a little

584
00:25:35.160 --> 00:25:35.559
<v Speaker 2>too much.

585
00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:39.880
<v Speaker 4>I love that they are No, wait, we're not there yet.

586
00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:43.839
<v Speaker 2>You know what monsters they should have done. The ones

587
00:25:43.880 --> 00:25:44.920
<v Speaker 2>that are all just legs.

588
00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:47.359
<v Speaker 4>Oh they're the mannequin ones.

589
00:25:47.640 --> 00:25:49.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, those scared the shit out of me.

590
00:25:50.039 --> 00:25:52.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. They would always hype on the corners. Yeah, it

591
00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:55.839
<v Speaker 4>always catch you, and I'd always be so careful. I know, like,

592
00:25:55.880 --> 00:25:57.880
<v Speaker 4>I know there's one behind his corner, and it would

593
00:25:57.880 --> 00:25:58.519
<v Speaker 4>still get me.

594
00:25:58.759 --> 00:26:01.039
<v Speaker 1>My favorite, though, is when you actually find them but

595
00:26:01.079 --> 00:26:03.680
<v Speaker 1>you don't trigger them yet. You walk into the room

596
00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:05.200
<v Speaker 1>and I saw one that was there and I'm like, oh,

597
00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:07.480
<v Speaker 1>I see you bloading.

598
00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:11.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh you're not kidding me, I felt.

599
00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:11.880
<v Speaker 3>So.

600
00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:14.079
<v Speaker 1>It only happened a couple of times where I caught them,

601
00:26:14.279 --> 00:26:16.519
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't move close enough to trigger the animation.

602
00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:19.000
<v Speaker 2>I was able to take him out. Yeah, I feel

603
00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:20.119
<v Speaker 2>like those guys should have been in this.

604
00:26:20.720 --> 00:26:21.519
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they should have.

605
00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Maybe not so much the giant arm guy underneath the thing.

606
00:26:24.400 --> 00:26:25.359
<v Speaker 1>You didn't really need him.

607
00:26:25.400 --> 00:26:29.000
<v Speaker 4>But I think they spent their entire on a caked

608
00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:29.599
<v Speaker 4>up monster.

609
00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:33.880
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to talk about this finer lady.

610
00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, So.

611
00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:41.799
<v Speaker 1>He goes into this club and he flashes back to

612
00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:45.799
<v Speaker 1>a party that took place there where Mary introduces him

613
00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:47.599
<v Speaker 1>to witches.

614
00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:51.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, by the way, no clubs in town. Immediate next

615
00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:52.400
<v Speaker 4>shot club.

616
00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:55.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they have at the call it out and she's like,

617
00:26:55.759 --> 00:26:59.119
<v Speaker 3>there's no clubs or art places at bars or anything here.

618
00:26:59.319 --> 00:27:00.440
<v Speaker 2>They must vote, but.

619
00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:04.200
<v Speaker 4>There's no museum. So clubs end game goes to museum,

620
00:27:05.559 --> 00:27:09.319
<v Speaker 4>goes to club. But the this club that's in there

621
00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:10.759
<v Speaker 4>is the strip club in the game.

622
00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:12.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, weird it wasn't a strip club.

623
00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:14.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and again it game is a strip club.

624
00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember that whole section. Now I should replay

625
00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:18.680
<v Speaker 2>that game you played on stream. I played it.

626
00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:20.400
<v Speaker 1>It's one of the few games I played off It's

627
00:27:20.440 --> 00:27:22.480
<v Speaker 1>a great game because I wanted to like be like

628
00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:23.759
<v Speaker 1>invested in it.

629
00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:25.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

630
00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:29.319
<v Speaker 1>So this is when we realize that there's like they're

631
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:33.720
<v Speaker 1>talking about Mary's mom or Mary's family and how they

632
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:36.759
<v Speaker 1>helped build the town. And it's clear like this is

633
00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:41.160
<v Speaker 1>like a cult thing like the first movie, but has nothing.

634
00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:45.759
<v Speaker 2>To do with the game. We're doing that and I

635
00:27:46.279 --> 00:27:46.920
<v Speaker 2>didn't realize.

636
00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:49.200
<v Speaker 1>So I have them I notes flashback to a party

637
00:27:49.240 --> 00:27:51.279
<v Speaker 1>in the club with weirdos not.

638
00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:54.559
<v Speaker 3>In the game, but like there is a cult element

639
00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:56.920
<v Speaker 3>in the games, yes, but it comes like.

640
00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:00.000
<v Speaker 4>In the third but we don't need it in this We.

641
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:02.119
<v Speaker 3>But trying to say like it doesn't exist at all,

642
00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:02.680
<v Speaker 3>like there.

643
00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:04.039
<v Speaker 2>Is, Oh, yeah there is.

644
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:07.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm not arguing that there isn't. I'm where there is.

645
00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:09.880
<v Speaker 4>But we took so much precious time way from Eddie.

646
00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:12.480
<v Speaker 2>We really need Edie Edie that much.

647
00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:13.880
<v Speaker 4>I don't just.

648
00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Well that that see where they're running through like the

649
00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:19.559
<v Speaker 2>meat the storage.

650
00:28:19.200 --> 00:28:21.799
<v Speaker 4>Locker and shooting each other Eddie.

651
00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:23.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you didn't want to see that.

652
00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:26.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying, He's like, we took so much pressuous

653
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:27.200
<v Speaker 3>time away from Eddie.

654
00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:28.519
<v Speaker 4>It was a joke.

655
00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:34.279
<v Speaker 1>It was a joke, but that flashback gets cut short

656
00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>because Armless Zombie shot acid all over that poor homeless

657
00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:41.519
<v Speaker 1>guy and it's shooting acid everywhere, and then James bunks

658
00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:44.400
<v Speaker 1>it on the head and then it's like ah, then

659
00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:46.359
<v Speaker 1>it runs into a sewer, like oh, I didn't really

660
00:28:46.359 --> 00:28:47.039
<v Speaker 1>put up much of.

661
00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:49.160
<v Speaker 3>One thing like with the games they do like go

662
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:50.279
<v Speaker 3>hide under the cars.

663
00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:52.559
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I yeah, I did like that. It actually got

664
00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:53.960
<v Speaker 2>on its legs and wingled around.

665
00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:56.240
<v Speaker 1>But you were going through that little like town, like

666
00:28:56.319 --> 00:28:58.440
<v Speaker 1>the street with all the townhouses and they're running in

667
00:28:58.480 --> 00:28:59.799
<v Speaker 1>the backyard that was pretty cool.

668
00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:02.119
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, he takes the homeless.

669
00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:05.160
<v Speaker 1>Guys radio because that alerts you to danger when he

670
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:06.119
<v Speaker 1>gets all staticky.

671
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:10.279
<v Speaker 4>They didn't really explain how he made the connection, that

672
00:29:10.279 --> 00:29:12.200
<v Speaker 4>that's how that works. Like, it didn't feel like there

673
00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:13.680
<v Speaker 4>was any reason for him to make that sort of

674
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:15.119
<v Speaker 4>connection pick it up and take it with him.

675
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:16.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it only happened once.

676
00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:19.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, how would he have known? How would he know?

677
00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:21.599
<v Speaker 4>Why would why is it any reason to pick up

678
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:24.559
<v Speaker 4>this radio? He has no No one told him. Yeah,

679
00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:25.279
<v Speaker 4>he has no idea.

680
00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:27.079
<v Speaker 2>How does he figure it out in the game? Does

681
00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:27.440
<v Speaker 2>he just?

682
00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:32.480
<v Speaker 4>I forget? Yeah, they do introduce it though.

683
00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:35.319
<v Speaker 2>It makes more sense in a game, but yeah, for this, isn't.

684
00:29:35.079 --> 00:29:36.240
<v Speaker 4>There a note with a radio?

685
00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:40.559
<v Speaker 2>Maybe somebody leaves to play it again? But yeah, I forget.

686
00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:42.039
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was funny that he's like, I'm just

687
00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:46.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna take this. It'd probably be important later. But yeah,

688
00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:48.880
<v Speaker 1>he takes it, and then uh, the siren starts to

689
00:29:48.920 --> 00:30:00.559
<v Speaker 1>blare and the darkness starts to spread from him, and

690
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:02.960
<v Speaker 1>we look at the background. There's more armless zombies making

691
00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:05.160
<v Speaker 1>their way to him, and.

692
00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:09.279
<v Speaker 2>Let me see here. Oh, we get rats and then we.

693
00:30:09.160 --> 00:30:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Get more baby beetles. Remember there was a baby beetle

694
00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:14.000
<v Speaker 1>in the first movie.

695
00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:15.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well they're back.

696
00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:17.799
<v Speaker 4>I think I blacked out a little bit during this

697
00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:19.880
<v Speaker 4>scene because I was so uninterested in it.

698
00:30:20.279 --> 00:30:25.599
<v Speaker 1>And then the Beatles eat the zombies. I don't know

699
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:30.079
<v Speaker 1>why they just eat the zombies. I did like when

700
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:33.359
<v Speaker 1>he goes into the I forget what that area was,

701
00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:36.200
<v Speaker 1>but he shuts like, oh, the apartment building. He shuts

702
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:37.960
<v Speaker 1>the glass door and they're like all on it. That

703
00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:39.480
<v Speaker 1>was pretty cool, and then it zooms up with their

704
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:43.279
<v Speaker 1>faces screen. Yeah. Very rarely this movie will get like

705
00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:48.240
<v Speaker 1>the creepy imagery from the previous film, the first film.

706
00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:51.160
<v Speaker 1>He like mimics that because there were some really creepy

707
00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:54.359
<v Speaker 1>shots in that first one. Yeah, but not enough, not enough.

708
00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:57.119
<v Speaker 1>And that's like the biggest problem with this film is

709
00:30:57.160 --> 00:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>that there's just no scares at all. None of it

710
00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:05.279
<v Speaker 1>is creepy or terrifying. The effects aren't as good.

711
00:31:05.559 --> 00:31:08.279
<v Speaker 4>They're not. I remember when I was playing the second game.

712
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:10.960
<v Speaker 4>After playing it for so long, I'd have to like

713
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:13.359
<v Speaker 4>stop because like my anxiety was just.

714
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:15.160
<v Speaker 2>Like it was a creepy game to play it.

715
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:17.359
<v Speaker 4>It was my anxiety was building, and I'm like I

716
00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:20.319
<v Speaker 4>just need a break from walking around all this creepy

717
00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:23.920
<v Speaker 4>shit that's jumping out of me all the time Pyramid

718
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:26.119
<v Speaker 4>had chasing me or whatever. Yeah, I just need an

719
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:27.240
<v Speaker 4>anxiety break.

720
00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:28.799
<v Speaker 2>Also, I screw you read it.

721
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:31.559
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know how to beat the Pyramid heads at

722
00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:34.599
<v Speaker 1>the end, and I wasn't sure what I was doing wrong,

723
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:37.119
<v Speaker 1>and I like was looking up like how to beat

724
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:39.000
<v Speaker 1>and they said, oh, it's just like the first encounter.

725
00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:41.839
<v Speaker 1>You just gotta wait. You gotta just wait out the

726
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:43.799
<v Speaker 1>time that person lied.

727
00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:46.680
<v Speaker 4>Oh I just unloaded all my AMMO into them.

728
00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:48.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, that's what you're supposed to do. That's what

729
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:50.799
<v Speaker 2>I learned. But I just ran in the circle for

730
00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:51.799
<v Speaker 2>twenty minutes.

731
00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:53.880
<v Speaker 3>Waiting for She's like, what is this guy doing?

732
00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:56.559
<v Speaker 2>And I learned you do have to hit them.

733
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:58.759
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you hit him enough times, it'll trigger like a thing.

734
00:31:58.839 --> 00:32:01.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, god damn, because I kept getting killed

735
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:06.720
<v Speaker 1>over and over again. Anyway, So yeah, he uh, he

736
00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:09.440
<v Speaker 1>sees a ghost lady and he has a flashback of

737
00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:11.440
<v Speaker 1>moving into his apartment with Mary.

738
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:13.799
<v Speaker 2>You're right, he did move in just like right away.

739
00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:16.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they don't really establish the timeline, but it seemed

740
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:17.160
<v Speaker 3>pretty fast.

741
00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:19.599
<v Speaker 2>You never even asked where she was supposed to be going.

742
00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:22.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like she was leading the town. And then they're like, okay,

743
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:24.039
<v Speaker 3>never mind, we're going to go south at Hill.

744
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:26.559
<v Speaker 4>And she gave up so easily. She's like, I guess

745
00:32:26.599 --> 00:32:28.720
<v Speaker 4>I'll just go back. I guess I'll just go back

746
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:29.519
<v Speaker 4>to the death Cult.

747
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:33.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there really wasn't. It wasn't like the colt was

748
00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:34.799
<v Speaker 1>chasing her down yet or anything.

749
00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:36.559
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I'll go I'm leaving.

750
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:39.000
<v Speaker 4>Well, you hit my suitcase. I guess I have nothing

751
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:39.680
<v Speaker 4>else for.

752
00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:47.039
<v Speaker 1>Uh So, yeah, he's walking around and then, uh, the

753
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:48.559
<v Speaker 1>TV hurts his brain.

754
00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:52.079
<v Speaker 2>I forget what was playing on the TV. I think

755
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:53.359
<v Speaker 2>it was just static static.

756
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:55.200
<v Speaker 1>It might have shown him something, because sometimes in the

757
00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:58.440
<v Speaker 1>game he plays stuff on TV and it'll see glimpses of

758
00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:01.440
<v Speaker 1>what he did. But his rain hurts and he calls

759
00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:04.440
<v Speaker 1>his therapists and she's like, why are you in Silent Hill.

760
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Mary's dead, you asshole, and get out of there.

761
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:09.160
<v Speaker 2>Uh I did.

762
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:11.160
<v Speaker 1>This was a creepy moment where it cuts to the

763
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:14.079
<v Speaker 1>outside of the apartment and you see that there's someone upstairs.

764
00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:16.799
<v Speaker 2>You see a shadow. It ends up being a mannequin

765
00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:17.519
<v Speaker 2>covered in mouth.

766
00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:20.079
<v Speaker 1>But like that first visual like, oh, that's creepy, Like

767
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>that's actually creepy. Why can't I get more stuff like that?

768
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:25.359
<v Speaker 1>And then this is when the therapist gets a new

769
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:27.799
<v Speaker 1>camerangle and we realize that she might be a real person,

770
00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:31.720
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, I need a wellness check on James

771
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Sutherland please, And they're like is he dangerous?

772
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Like, I don't know, she's really.

773
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:43.279
<v Speaker 4>Drunk, drunk, you might have some paintbrushes on him.

774
00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:44.440
<v Speaker 2>See.

775
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:47.240
<v Speaker 1>He goes upstairs, he finds the mannequin that's covered in

776
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:51.680
<v Speaker 1>moths and Mary's dress, and then he flashes back to

777
00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:54.200
<v Speaker 1>coming home one day in his apartment to see Mary

778
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:55.039
<v Speaker 1>with the cult.

779
00:33:56.079 --> 00:34:00.039
<v Speaker 3>It's a really big ass apartment. It is like what

780
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:03.279
<v Speaker 3>the whole cult is? I don't know how many people

781
00:34:03.279 --> 00:34:03.839
<v Speaker 3>are in this court.

782
00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:04.359
<v Speaker 4>There's a lot.

783
00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:06.920
<v Speaker 2>I yeah, yeah, it's like, well there's more later on,

784
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:08.079
<v Speaker 2>but here it was like ten.

785
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:11.039
<v Speaker 4>Or fifteen a club in that apartment. So yeah, and they're.

786
00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:15.159
<v Speaker 2>All just like in the thing staring at her. It's weird.

787
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:17.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what the fuck? And I'm sitting here and

788
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:19.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm just this is when I start googling. I'm like,

789
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:22.719
<v Speaker 1>did I miss something in the games? Did I was

790
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:26.239
<v Speaker 1>there a connection that I was unaware of? But yeah,

791
00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:29.719
<v Speaker 1>he tells her. He's like, uh, your friends are weird.

792
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:33.159
<v Speaker 1>It's like they're weird. I don't like him. And he's like,

793
00:34:33.199 --> 00:34:36.679
<v Speaker 1>ohso you're shrine to your creepy dad who looks like

794
00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:40.159
<v Speaker 1>every bad guy ever is also weird.

795
00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:40.639
<v Speaker 2>Lady.

796
00:34:41.199 --> 00:34:45.480
<v Speaker 4>Any normal person would have seen what he just saw

797
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:48.760
<v Speaker 4>and be like that, Mount'm out. This is weir, this

798
00:34:48.840 --> 00:34:51.320
<v Speaker 4>is this is There are so many red flags right here.

799
00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:54.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm out. But he is very quick to be like, no,

800
00:34:55.800 --> 00:34:58.199
<v Speaker 4>I love you.

801
00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:00.280
<v Speaker 3>She's his mus Yeah.

802
00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:04.079
<v Speaker 2>Yes, they call her that. They directly call her that.

803
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:07.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, but we've been together a long time. If

804
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:09.320
<v Speaker 4>I ever up off the closet and there's this weird,

805
00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:11.039
<v Speaker 4>creepy shrine in there, I'm out.

806
00:35:11.199 --> 00:35:14.719
<v Speaker 1>If it's a shrine of your dad looking scary. If

807
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:16.440
<v Speaker 1>you woke up and it's Uncle.

808
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:18.440
<v Speaker 4>Joe, I'm not sticking around for you to kill me.

809
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:20.719
<v Speaker 4>It sacrificed me to some.

810
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:24.360
<v Speaker 1>God with his hands around you, I'd be like like,

811
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:25.840
<v Speaker 1>hell out there.

812
00:35:26.280 --> 00:35:29.159
<v Speaker 4>Yet, you have to know that there's something wrong.

813
00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:30.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying.

814
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:33.519
<v Speaker 1>Look, as someone who's dating experience has mostly been girls

815
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:34.519
<v Speaker 1>with daddy issues.

816
00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:35.079
<v Speaker 2>I've never had.

817
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I've never run into a lady who had a shrine

818
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:41.800
<v Speaker 1>of their creepy dad behind a metal gate with a

819
00:35:41.800 --> 00:35:43.480
<v Speaker 1>weird design that i'd be out to.

820
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:45.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no, I'm sorry. This is new daddy issue

821
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:47.920
<v Speaker 2>territory that I am not ready for.

822
00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:50.159
<v Speaker 3>I didn't experience this one yet, and I don't want to.

823
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:55.159
<v Speaker 2>I thought I was prepared. I'm not for It's weird.

824
00:35:55.159 --> 00:35:56.840
<v Speaker 4>And then, you know, I think back to my childhood

825
00:35:56.840 --> 00:35:59.320
<v Speaker 4>when I used to watch Hey Arnold and Helga would

826
00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:02.280
<v Speaker 4>have a gum shrying of like Arnold in her cousin.

827
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:04.159
<v Speaker 4>That was so Now look back and I'm like, that's

828
00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:04.800
<v Speaker 4>so weird.

829
00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:10.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, Speaking of daddy issues, I got choked by

830
00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:15.079
<v Speaker 1>a girl at the bar on Father's thing willingly. No, No,

831
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:17.480
<v Speaker 1>she was just very She yelled at her cousin for

832
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:20.480
<v Speaker 1>an hour and she got hammered and she groped the

833
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:22.679
<v Speaker 1>guy who was on karaoke, and I was just like, wow,

834
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:24.679
<v Speaker 1>that girl's annoying. Hope she doesn't come over here. And

835
00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:26.039
<v Speaker 1>then I'm on my phone and I see this arm

836
00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:26.440
<v Speaker 1>come around.

837
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:28.639
<v Speaker 2>They're like, oh no, it was bad. I had to

838
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:30.119
<v Speaker 2>like film it because I thought a fight was gonna

839
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:32.920
<v Speaker 2>break out. It was nuts that girl was having a

840
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:35.840
<v Speaker 2>bad She would not let me go. I'm like, lady,

841
00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:36.559
<v Speaker 2>please let me.

842
00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:37.960
<v Speaker 1>You see in the video I sent it to like

843
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:40.360
<v Speaker 1>old people are like, wow, it's funny. You actually never

844
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:42.480
<v Speaker 1>seen you actually concerned because I'm like kind of giggling,

845
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:44.320
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, no, really, you need to let go,

846
00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:47.960
<v Speaker 1>you need to let go. She probably has a shrine

847
00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:50.000
<v Speaker 1>of her, creepy staring at her.

848
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:53.039
<v Speaker 4>You could have reversed on her and said harder.

849
00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:57.760
<v Speaker 1>No, no, I'll show you the video afterwards. That would

850
00:36:57.760 --> 00:36:59.119
<v Speaker 1>have worked out bad for me.

851
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:02.480
<v Speaker 4>Maybe you could reverse creeper out.

852
00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:04.360
<v Speaker 2>I do love that. That's a Star Wars meting with

853
00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:14.280
<v Speaker 2>Darth Vader do it as a stormtrooper and harder. So yeah,

854
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:14.719
<v Speaker 2>he's like.

855
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I don't like Eddie of this, and then cut

856
00:37:18.360 --> 00:37:20.840
<v Speaker 1>back to where he is now. He finds a paper

857
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:24.039
<v Speaker 1>for a hospital and then he finds Eddie throwing up

858
00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:24.800
<v Speaker 1>in the bathroom.

859
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Eddie who.

860
00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:28.519
<v Speaker 1>For a minute, I'm like, wait, is this just the

861
00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:30.599
<v Speaker 1>guy who plays James but in a fat suit because

862
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:34.599
<v Speaker 1>they kind of looked alike, and I'm wondering if they

863
00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:37.679
<v Speaker 1>were going for that idea, if they made Angela and

864
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:40.119
<v Speaker 1>Marie and all the same birds, Like, what if all.

865
00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:44.039
<v Speaker 2>The men were all James. So this guy looks like

866
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:44.480
<v Speaker 2>if the.

867
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:46.360
<v Speaker 3>Actor pyramid Head.

868
00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:51.519
<v Speaker 2>Huh yeah, yeah yeah, But I thought, this looks like

869
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:53.079
<v Speaker 2>if you got the guy who played James and you

870
00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:55.800
<v Speaker 2>just like he just let himself go for like a

871
00:37:55.840 --> 00:37:56.719
<v Speaker 2>couple of years.

872
00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:00.400
<v Speaker 1>But then I'm guessing James. Irvine was like, how dare you?

873
00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:03.039
<v Speaker 1>I was in Mama Mia, here we go again. I'm

874
00:38:03.039 --> 00:38:05.480
<v Speaker 1>not gonna wear a fat suit and okay, we'll get

875
00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:06.719
<v Speaker 1>a different choppy.

876
00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:10.559
<v Speaker 2>And the fakest beard.

877
00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:13.960
<v Speaker 4>I said that when he came out there, I'm like,

878
00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:18.559
<v Speaker 4>that beard looks so bad. Oh my god. You can

879
00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:20.199
<v Speaker 4>see the glue on the beard.

880
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:25.360
<v Speaker 2>It was rough. It was rough. Yeah.

881
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:29.199
<v Speaker 1>So Eddie, uh he So Eddie was a guy who

882
00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:33.239
<v Speaker 1>got like bullied, right, and it's implied that he killed someone.

883
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:35.239
<v Speaker 2>No, what happened to him?

884
00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:37.880
<v Speaker 4>Shot a dog, He shot a dog and shot the

885
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:39.039
<v Speaker 4>bully and the knee.

886
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:40.519
<v Speaker 1>And shot the bully of the knee right right, and

887
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:42.519
<v Speaker 1>then ran away and then ran away to Silent Hill.

888
00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:47.719
<v Speaker 1>Uh So none of that really gets explained here, but

889
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:50.440
<v Speaker 1>here he likes living in Silent Hill. He's like, I

890
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:53.639
<v Speaker 1>love living here by myself. There's no assholes, no one's

891
00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:57.360
<v Speaker 1>being mean to me, no one's bullying me. But like

892
00:38:58.239 --> 00:38:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Eddie in the game looked like he was like a

893
00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:03.559
<v Speaker 1>team like high school, I throatly looked a well, he

894
00:39:03.639 --> 00:39:05.960
<v Speaker 1>looked like a really tall beef high schooler.

895
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:08.079
<v Speaker 2>I knew guys in high school that looked like that.

896
00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:11.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like college age maybe, Yeah.

897
00:39:10.679 --> 00:39:12.719
<v Speaker 4>I think, I think because his clothes were like too

898
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:16.079
<v Speaker 4>small for him, and he looked very slobbingly. Yeah, like

899
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:18.480
<v Speaker 4>it made maybe appear a little older to me.

900
00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:20.679
<v Speaker 1>For well, I guess, I guess it was implied he

901
00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:22.039
<v Speaker 1>was still supposed to be young. I mean, he was

902
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:23.719
<v Speaker 1>wearing a backwards hat. Who does that?

903
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:24.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

904
00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:26.719
<v Speaker 2>Who does that? Thank god my brother in law doesn't

905
00:39:26.760 --> 00:39:28.039
<v Speaker 2>watch this show. Who does that?

906
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:30.320
<v Speaker 4>Who can't find hats and backwards anymore?

907
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:32.840
<v Speaker 1>They like come find I know, no matter how hard

908
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:36.639
<v Speaker 1>I look for him. But yeah, here, it's just like

909
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:39.639
<v Speaker 1>just like a different like mid thirties to forty guys

910
00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:41.880
<v Speaker 1>like people are mean to me. It's like, get over it, buddy.

911
00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Try talking about movies on the internet. You'll see what

912
00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:47.159
<v Speaker 1>bullying is.

913
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:51.039
<v Speaker 4>And we have a lot of meaningful character developments here. Yeah,

914
00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:54.599
<v Speaker 4>the only character that surely will get closure on later.

915
00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Again, they should have worked at it, where like Eddie's

916
00:39:57.880 --> 00:39:59.440
<v Speaker 1>like another dark part of.

917
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:01.480
<v Speaker 2>James.

918
00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:04.639
<v Speaker 1>That's the whole thing, wasn't it Like one part of

919
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:07.079
<v Speaker 1>the game, like they find like all the people Eddie

920
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:07.760
<v Speaker 1>is killed.

921
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.320
<v Speaker 2>And they're all James. It's like he's killed them multiple times.

922
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:13.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's Yeah, there's a bunch of James in the

923
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:15.679
<v Speaker 4>cold locker where you go in there and all the

924
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:16.000
<v Speaker 4>way up.

925
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:17.840
<v Speaker 1>But even like like even like in the theater, I

926
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:20.480
<v Speaker 1>think he was like I had to protect myself, but

927
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:24.880
<v Speaker 1>it's always James's body with the head just somewhat obscured,

928
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:26.880
<v Speaker 1>and James never thinks to go like who is this?

929
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:32.920
<v Speaker 4>Well, every conversation in the game two is also uncomfortable

930
00:40:33.559 --> 00:40:39.679
<v Speaker 4>and awkward and slow. Yes, they would talk yeah like

931
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:46.679
<v Speaker 4>this for a while, and then they would respawn very slowly.

932
00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:48.559
<v Speaker 2>Here's the credit of the movie.

933
00:40:48.599 --> 00:40:50.679
<v Speaker 1>This is not good for a regular movie, but for

934
00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:54.199
<v Speaker 1>a video game adaptation. Some of their line delivery and

935
00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:55.960
<v Speaker 1>awkward dialogue does feel.

936
00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Like a video game. In this movie, you like you

937
00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:00.679
<v Speaker 2>know what, feels very much like video.

938
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:03.480
<v Speaker 4>The acting was so bad it felt like a badly

939
00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:04.320
<v Speaker 4>programmed video game.

940
00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:08.480
<v Speaker 1>But even good video games have awkward dialogue like that,

941
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:10.039
<v Speaker 1>and the movie was almost exactly like.

942
00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:12.159
<v Speaker 2>They're not good for a movie, but accurate.

943
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:17.559
<v Speaker 4>I love in video games when it's not programmed to

944
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:20.559
<v Speaker 4>have them interrupt each other. So they'll have a sentence

945
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:23.400
<v Speaker 4>and then they'll end the sentence and there's a pause

946
00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:25.840
<v Speaker 4>and then interrupt them. It's like, if you're gonna do that,

947
00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:27.719
<v Speaker 4>just don't. If you can't program or I just don't

948
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:29.480
<v Speaker 4>do it. It just it kills me every time.

949
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:31.840
<v Speaker 1>I wonder why that is has something to do with

950
00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:34.360
<v Speaker 1>like all the different languages they have to this is

951
00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:36.119
<v Speaker 1>the same animation for every language.

952
00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:36.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

953
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:38.599
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure you just ask GPT.

954
00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:42.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't talk to robots now. I use gro because

955
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:44.320
<v Speaker 1>I already pay for pre Twitter, so.

956
00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:47.119
<v Speaker 4>As you google it anyways.

957
00:41:46.440 --> 00:41:50.559
<v Speaker 1>Ex premium all right, Sea Eddie loves Silent Hill. I

958
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:51.119
<v Speaker 1>don't know why.

959
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:53.280
<v Speaker 2>There's monsters everywhere, but he loves it.

960
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:58.639
<v Speaker 1>No bullies, there's no bullies. There's armless people shooting ass.

961
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:01.920
<v Speaker 1>So if you're alone, if you don't bump into anyone

962
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:04.960
<v Speaker 1>else in Silent Hill, you only see like monsters that

963
00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:06.159
<v Speaker 1>are specific to you.

964
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:10.639
<v Speaker 4>Right, Yeah, that's implied, Yeah, unless you are sharing the

965
00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:12.199
<v Speaker 4>trauma of somebody else.

966
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:16.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which was what James does. Yeah, okay, so what

967
00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:21.039
<v Speaker 1>does Eddie usually see? Just don't think he's also churning,

968
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:24.239
<v Speaker 1>he shows his skin. He's like turning into a monster.

969
00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:25.800
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what.

970
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:28.920
<v Speaker 3>Eddie would sake because I think he's not gonna let

971
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:31.800
<v Speaker 3>go of his trauma. He's holding onto the trauma and

972
00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:34.480
<v Speaker 3>it's starting to manifest into turning him into a monster.

973
00:42:34.679 --> 00:42:36.599
<v Speaker 2>He will become a spooky scary monster.

974
00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:38.960
<v Speaker 3>Yescome some sort of spooky scary monster.

975
00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Gotcha, gotcha? And then they find Laura.

976
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:43.920
<v Speaker 3>Little girl.

977
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and they're like, hey, little girls.

978
00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:48.760
<v Speaker 1>Hanging out in the side of all well, it sounds

979
00:42:48.760 --> 00:42:50.480
<v Speaker 1>like a baby crying, and then it's Laura.

980
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:53.880
<v Speaker 2>That confuse me, right, I.

981
00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:57.639
<v Speaker 1>Forgot about the baby tal that's like a literal zombie baby.

982
00:42:58.519 --> 00:42:59.280
<v Speaker 4>It's horrible.

983
00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Soa in the game was like a girl. She was

984
00:43:03.039 --> 00:43:06.599
<v Speaker 1>an orphan at the hospital that Mary was at. Yeah,

985
00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:09.519
<v Speaker 1>and I guess Mary would occasionally complain about.

986
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:11.320
<v Speaker 2>James to a little girl for some reason.

987
00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:13.920
<v Speaker 3>She was dying of cancer, I guess.

988
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:16.440
<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, they never really tell you what it is

989
00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:17.679
<v Speaker 2>that she's dying of. It's like.

990
00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:19.639
<v Speaker 3>Cancer.

991
00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:23.400
<v Speaker 4>I think I think it's cancer. She has a terminal illness.

992
00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but so that's why, like Mary doesn't really like

993
00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:30.440
<v Speaker 1>James in the game. Lara, Yeah, Lara doesn't really like

994
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:33.039
<v Speaker 1>James in the game. But also, like Lara seems fine

995
00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:35.480
<v Speaker 1>in the game. I don't think she's seeing all the.

996
00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:36.719
<v Speaker 2>Monsters or anything.

997
00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:37.440
<v Speaker 3>She's not.

998
00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:38.440
<v Speaker 2>She's not.

999
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:40.920
<v Speaker 1>That's why she seems fine. She's never phased by anything.

1000
00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:45.519
<v Speaker 1>She doesn't have any like trauma or anything. Really, I

1001
00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:47.239
<v Speaker 1>guess she's an orphan, but not really.

1002
00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:49.599
<v Speaker 4>I mean, she's just went around in an abandoned town.

1003
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:50.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's why.

1004
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:53.599
<v Speaker 1>But here they made her look like scary ghost girl

1005
00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:56.000
<v Speaker 1>with the zombie baby, and I'm like, all right, I

1006
00:43:56.039 --> 00:44:01.039
<v Speaker 1>don't think we really got it here because they changed

1007
00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:07.199
<v Speaker 1>it to where she's yeah, the big revelation at the end. Yeah,

1008
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:10.119
<v Speaker 1>they try to help her, but then they hear someone

1009
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:14.000
<v Speaker 1>coming and then Eddie is just like, oh, you woke

1010
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:16.800
<v Speaker 1>him up, and it's like who, And then I think

1011
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:18.880
<v Speaker 1>James calls him an asshole. He's like, did you call

1012
00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:22.199
<v Speaker 1>me an asshole? And then Eddie walks out of the movie,

1013
00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:26.079
<v Speaker 1>runs out of it again, never to be seen again.

1014
00:44:26.239 --> 00:44:27.559
<v Speaker 4>Probably off to shoot another dog.

1015
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and then we get to see pyramid Head with

1016
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:41.400
<v Speaker 1>his new design, which is closer to the game design.

1017
00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:43.199
<v Speaker 1>But I kind of liked it better in the movies.

1018
00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:45.719
<v Speaker 1>I like the big point at the end. And he

1019
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:49.760
<v Speaker 1>probably just got done his shift at the carousel. Oh yeah,

1020
00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:54.039
<v Speaker 1>probably just got done his shift there, you know, in

1021
00:44:54.159 --> 00:44:57.800
<v Speaker 1>between his job at the prison where he chops arms off, we.

1022
00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:00.639
<v Speaker 3>Learned, and he sometimes goes to that burger place.

1023
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yes, he's very busy, we learned in the

1024
00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:08.239
<v Speaker 1>last movie. A Pyramidhead has so many jobs.

1025
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:11.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1026
00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:13.039
<v Speaker 1>So he's going back to his apartment to sleep, and

1027
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:14.440
<v Speaker 1>these guys are making all kinds.

1028
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:19.599
<v Speaker 4>Of and they they the director really made sure from

1029
00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:22.519
<v Speaker 4>the very very beginning that you know the pyramid Head

1030
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:23.159
<v Speaker 4>is James.

1031
00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's fine for us who know no mystery.

1032
00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:30.920
<v Speaker 4>It's like every turn it to the point where like

1033
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:35.599
<v Speaker 4>he's in the studio he's painting pyramids. Yeah, she's like, like, okay,

1034
00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:36.079
<v Speaker 4>we get it.

1035
00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Later on it comes more blatant. Yeah, later on it's

1036
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:40.679
<v Speaker 1>it sucks later on where they spell at al for you.

1037
00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, we already know. You showed him in the helmet.

1038
00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:45.719
<v Speaker 1>There's like a whole in Pyramidhead's helmet and they zoom

1039
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:48.360
<v Speaker 1>in you see James's face. It's like, all right, well,

1040
00:45:48.360 --> 00:45:50.079
<v Speaker 1>you're letting us know ahead of time. And then later

1041
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:52.000
<v Speaker 1>on the movie they're like, isn't the shock You're like, no,

1042
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:52.920
<v Speaker 1>you already told us.

1043
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:55.440
<v Speaker 4>You told us three times already.

1044
00:45:56.159 --> 00:45:58.519
<v Speaker 1>No one was shocked on who, no one was surprised

1045
00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:00.159
<v Speaker 1>who was under the helmet. They're like, oh, yeah it

1046
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:00.679
<v Speaker 1>was James.

1047
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:03.239
<v Speaker 2>Pyramidhead looks cool.

1048
00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:07.280
<v Speaker 1>He's like normal sized in this, which is I guess

1049
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:10.400
<v Speaker 1>more game accurate, But that first movie he felt like gigantic.

1050
00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:11.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1051
00:46:11.159 --> 00:46:13.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he wasn't towering over you.

1052
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:16.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I think in the original he wasn't also towering.

1053
00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:17.719
<v Speaker 1>They just made him bigger in the movie.

1054
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:20.360
<v Speaker 4>His helmet was just bigger.

1055
00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:21.519
<v Speaker 2>No, he was, No, he was.

1056
00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:24.559
<v Speaker 1>Way Remember his hand it was like the size of

1057
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:26.519
<v Speaker 1>the girl's chest and he ripped all the stuff.

1058
00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:27.679
<v Speaker 4>Off oh the movie.

1059
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like, I get that

1060
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:31.800
<v Speaker 2>they made this more like the game, but I kind of.

1061
00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:33.400
<v Speaker 4>Like the yeah in the movie.

1062
00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:35.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, So this one, it just kind of feels

1063
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:37.639
<v Speaker 1>like you're at a convention and someone's walking around with

1064
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:41.440
<v Speaker 1>one of those big helmets, but I think the effect

1065
00:46:41.480 --> 00:46:44.440
<v Speaker 1>is fine, the makeup effect compared to some other makeup effects.

1066
00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:47.599
<v Speaker 1>We'll see it look fine. Like he's headbutting the bars,

1067
00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:51.599
<v Speaker 1>although he grunts and growls a lot. I don't remember

1068
00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:54.000
<v Speaker 1>him making sounds in the game, but I could be wrong.

1069
00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:56.280
<v Speaker 4>I don't remember making any sounds, but in.

1070
00:46:56.239 --> 00:47:01.039
<v Speaker 2>This movie he's like, oh, sounds are just his sword

1071
00:47:01.079 --> 00:47:01.679
<v Speaker 2>being dragged.

1072
00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:04.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a It kind of reminds me if you

1073
00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:07.119
<v Speaker 1>go back and like watch like the early Jason movies

1074
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:09.840
<v Speaker 1>he is like grunting and stuff and then he just stops.

1075
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:14.119
<v Speaker 4>Later on, I think it's more menacing when he's silent.

1076
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, so yeah, he uh he chases James and

1077
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:25.519
<v Speaker 1>then James runs into a naked spider lady who's caked

1078
00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:30.880
<v Speaker 1>up and her boobs are eyes. Why it was I

1079
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:33.239
<v Speaker 1>don't remember this being in the game. I remember there

1080
00:47:33.280 --> 00:47:35.559
<v Speaker 1>was some stuff that was kind of like this, but

1081
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:36.159
<v Speaker 1>not this.

1082
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:41.159
<v Speaker 4>There was like sometimes there were multiple mannequins together that

1083
00:47:41.199 --> 00:47:44.360
<v Speaker 4>were like spider like but it was but none of

1084
00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:45.159
<v Speaker 4>them had any cake.

1085
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:48.360
<v Speaker 3>But there is the one scene where like, and I

1086
00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:50.599
<v Speaker 3>guess they're trying to recreate it here in this movie

1087
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:54.079
<v Speaker 3>where James does go into like he's in hiding out

1088
00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:58.039
<v Speaker 3>in the apartment and he stumbles upon Like the joke

1089
00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:01.840
<v Speaker 3>is people always think it's like peerid heads fucking the mannequins.

1090
00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:03.039
<v Speaker 2>That's what it looked like to me.

1091
00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:04.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's supposed to.

1092
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:08.760
<v Speaker 3>Be okay, like maybe because it's like him using her

1093
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:11.840
<v Speaker 3>as for her body. Yeah, but I think that's what

1094
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:13.719
<v Speaker 3>they're trying to go for. But they're like, we gotta

1095
00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:16.239
<v Speaker 3>make it a little sexier somehow.

1096
00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:19.119
<v Speaker 2>You gotta make this man here's This is what shocked

1097
00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:23.679
<v Speaker 2>me because it is like a spider lady. Why would

1098
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:26.159
<v Speaker 2>they put a CGI spider lady in this when the

1099
00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:30.519
<v Speaker 2>last movie had a terrifying, terrible looking CGI spider person.

1100
00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Why why it even does the thing where it touches

1101
00:48:33.920 --> 00:48:36.119
<v Speaker 2>the head and the head starts screaming just like the

1102
00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:36.960
<v Speaker 2>last movie.

1103
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:40.920
<v Speaker 3>I wonder, since Chris Soften do the second one, if

1104
00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:44.159
<v Speaker 3>this was like his revenge of being like, fuck that

1105
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:47.599
<v Speaker 3>spider lad movie. She's gonna get killed by Pyramid has

1106
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:48.360
<v Speaker 3>this one.

1107
00:48:48.199 --> 00:48:51.320
<v Speaker 1>And someone should have just said, hey, chrisp don't remember

1108
00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:55.760
<v Speaker 1>that movie. Don't remember that movie except for three assholes

1109
00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:58.199
<v Speaker 1>in a video store somewhere they remember it, but no

1110
00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:02.440
<v Speaker 1>one else. But yeah, the spider thing chases him around.

1111
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:06.159
<v Speaker 1>He hides in a closet. Peermidhead. I guess they didn't

1112
00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:09.480
<v Speaker 1>want him like assaulting the spider lady, so he basically

1113
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:10.719
<v Speaker 1>puts her on the table.

1114
00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:13.159
<v Speaker 2>It just punches her butt. He's just punching.

1115
00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:15.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know even know if the actor knew he

1116
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:18.079
<v Speaker 1>was doing that, because it's like a digital spider that

1117
00:49:18.119 --> 00:49:18.639
<v Speaker 1>he's punching.

1118
00:49:18.840 --> 00:49:19.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1119
00:49:19.639 --> 00:49:22.760
<v Speaker 1>I was fucking dying laughing last night, like, wait what

1120
00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:25.199
<v Speaker 1>it jingles and everything?

1121
00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:27.559
<v Speaker 2>We can't show it.

1122
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:29.599
<v Speaker 1>I would just say the whole movie's worth it just

1123
00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:31.000
<v Speaker 1>see Pearmdhead punch a butt.

1124
00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:33.440
<v Speaker 3>I feel like we should have gotten something else that

1125
00:49:33.679 --> 00:49:38.159
<v Speaker 3>could mimic those physics somehow. This is what it's like.

1126
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:41.480
<v Speaker 1>And then he kills it, and then this is the

1127
00:49:41.519 --> 00:49:43.880
<v Speaker 1>sea where James hide in the closet and Pyramidhead comes

1128
00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:46.559
<v Speaker 1>up to, which, when playing the game, reminds me of

1129
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:49.639
<v Speaker 1>that whole thing felt like a reference to David Lynch's

1130
00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Blue Velvet.

1131
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:54.360
<v Speaker 2>Do you ever see Blue Velvet? Spoiler for Blue Velvet?

1132
00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:56.760
<v Speaker 1>But Kyle McLaughlin is hiding in a closet when the

1133
00:49:56.760 --> 00:49:59.159
<v Speaker 1>bad guy Dennis Hoppers like in the apartment looking for him,

1134
00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:01.360
<v Speaker 1>and he comes like right up to the closet and

1135
00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:04.599
<v Speaker 1>gets his head blown off, which I think in the

1136
00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:07.559
<v Speaker 1>game he shoots Pyramidhead when he comes up to the thing,

1137
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:11.400
<v Speaker 1>but he doesn't have a gun in this movie. Instead,

1138
00:50:11.400 --> 00:50:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Pyramidhead just like breaks in and then stares at him,

1139
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:21.880
<v Speaker 1>and then the siren hurts both their heads because they're

1140
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:26.199
<v Speaker 1>the sick. And then the darkness fades and he finds

1141
00:50:26.239 --> 00:50:30.639
<v Speaker 1>Angela in a room and she's just there to remind

1142
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:32.840
<v Speaker 1>you that she's there, but.

1143
00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:35.280
<v Speaker 4>She yells, is so deep with this character.

1144
00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:38.159
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, she's there with her knife looking in the mirror.

1145
00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:40.679
<v Speaker 4>I mean in the game she did have that knife. Yeah,

1146
00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:44.639
<v Speaker 4>But James like, give me the knife, give me the knife.

1147
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:47.840
<v Speaker 1>But she's like just telling him she's like wasting her

1148
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:50.480
<v Speaker 1>his time there or something, and she's like, I face

1149
00:50:50.519 --> 00:50:51.000
<v Speaker 1>so many.

1150
00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Terrors blah blah blah blah blah.

1151
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:55.280
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, okay, well that's nice. Bye Angela. And

1152
00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:56.480
<v Speaker 1>then he finds Lara again.

1153
00:50:57.079 --> 00:51:01.079
<v Speaker 2>She says she knows Mary, yeah, and then he.

1154
00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Chases her to Rosewater Park and loses her in amaze

1155
00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:08.199
<v Speaker 1>A lot of mazes in this It was in a

1156
00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:08.639
<v Speaker 1>game too.

1157
00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:10.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it felt like I mean, it didn't look.

1158
00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:11.280
<v Speaker 3>The same though.

1159
00:51:11.480 --> 00:51:16.599
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like they're yeah, they're not the same. But I

1160
00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:19.519
<v Speaker 4>kind of drew the conclusion myself that that's what they

1161
00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:20.840
<v Speaker 4>were going for. And it felt like.

1162
00:51:20.840 --> 00:51:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Hell Raiser too, the Big Labyrinth, And this is like

1163
00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:27.599
<v Speaker 1>a weird thing where like they just reveal that Maria

1164
00:51:27.719 --> 00:51:29.840
<v Speaker 1>is already there, like he chased her, and then we

1165
00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:32.400
<v Speaker 1>see Maria walking down the street. Yeah, and then it's

1166
00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:33.840
<v Speaker 1>like a big thing where he meets her. I'm like,

1167
00:51:33.840 --> 00:51:35.960
<v Speaker 1>why do we get that weird shot? Like, I don't know,

1168
00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:40.559
<v Speaker 1>it's felt this is awkward editing there. But he finds

1169
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:44.480
<v Speaker 1>her and she looks exactly like Mary. But also Angela

1170
00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:47.199
<v Speaker 1>did too, and I don't know why he didn't piece that.

1171
00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:50.480
<v Speaker 4>Together Jamie Real Ramona Flowers vibes.

1172
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that that wig wasn't really doing her anything.

1173
00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Looks right out of the game though.

1174
00:51:55.679 --> 00:51:57.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they did copy her outfit pretty.

1175
00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:00.920
<v Speaker 4>Well, Yeah, just not her personality very well.

1176
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they didn't really feel like the one from the game.

1177
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:08.320
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, he struggles to answer questions about Mary. He's like,

1178
00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:11.159
<v Speaker 1>my girlfriend, she's maybe in a hospital.

1179
00:52:11.360 --> 00:52:11.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

1180
00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:14.960
<v Speaker 3>She's like, what the fuck so she's really not your girlfriend,

1181
00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:19.719
<v Speaker 3>like she should have seen the red flags from James.

1182
00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:23.840
<v Speaker 4>You seem normal at first, but maybe I'm not so

1183
00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:28.599
<v Speaker 4>sure now, Maybe i should just go else and in

1184
00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:28.960
<v Speaker 4>the town.

1185
00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, she's like, you're the first normal person I've

1186
00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:35.760
<v Speaker 1>seen in like six weeks. Like, how's she been showering

1187
00:52:35.800 --> 00:52:37.840
<v Speaker 1>and applying her makeup for six weeks?

1188
00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Which he calls out.

1189
00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:43.519
<v Speaker 1>He's like, look pretty good for six weeks here, probably

1190
00:52:43.559 --> 00:52:46.159
<v Speaker 1>because she can't say, Oh, I'm just like a manifestation

1191
00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:46.840
<v Speaker 1>in your mind.

1192
00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:47.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm not real.

1193
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:51.119
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, they they hide from another armless zombie.

1194
00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:54.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, poorly, might I add, Yeah, they're.

1195
00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Just we're just gonna hide in front of the truck

1196
00:52:55.800 --> 00:52:56.760
<v Speaker 2>and it's coming around.

1197
00:52:56.599 --> 00:52:59.159
<v Speaker 4>And it walks past them, right, and then they have

1198
00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:01.840
<v Speaker 4>no urgins he to get away. I'm like, that thing

1199
00:53:01.920 --> 00:53:04.360
<v Speaker 4>just has to turn around and see you and then

1200
00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:08.440
<v Speaker 4>that's it. But they just so they just so nonchalantly,

1201
00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:12.719
<v Speaker 4>they just get up and move along clearly in line

1202
00:53:12.760 --> 00:53:13.679
<v Speaker 4>of sight of this monster.

1203
00:53:14.239 --> 00:53:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Well it doesn't have eyes, I mean, how does it

1204
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:19.039
<v Speaker 1>know where everything else is when we're gonna go down

1205
00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:22.800
<v Speaker 1>that route? But look, they don't have time to do

1206
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:25.440
<v Speaker 1>all that. We got to do another flashback of him

1207
00:53:26.360 --> 00:53:29.320
<v Speaker 1>in the town when it was occupied, and he stalks

1208
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Mary and the cult.

1209
00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:34.880
<v Speaker 2>I did like that. He has to move a garbage dumpster.

1210
00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:38.920
<v Speaker 4>But we had to shove this supremely epic looking hospital

1211
00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:43.159
<v Speaker 4>for a small town, this monument of a hospital. Have

1212
00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:43.920
<v Speaker 4>you seen this thing?

1213
00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:45.719
<v Speaker 2>Wait, we're there at the hospital yet. No, we're not

1214
00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:47.480
<v Speaker 2>at the hospital. That's when the hospital, right, No, no, no,

1215
00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:48.920
<v Speaker 2>this is we're talking about the flashback.

1216
00:53:49.880 --> 00:53:52.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but don't they show the hospital in the flashback?

1217
00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:53.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember.

1218
00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:55.199
<v Speaker 4>No, am I thinking the wrong thing.

1219
00:53:55.199 --> 00:53:56.239
<v Speaker 2>I think you're thinking the wrong thing.

1220
00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:58.559
<v Speaker 3>I think you're skipping ahead in flashbacks.

1221
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:03.119
<v Speaker 4>Always when you watch a movie, and they gather in

1222
00:54:03.159 --> 00:54:03.679
<v Speaker 4>my head.

1223
00:54:03.800 --> 00:54:06.639
<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, this is when he's following her in the past. Okay,

1224
00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:08.239
<v Speaker 1>but then he loves her and he has to move

1225
00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:11.360
<v Speaker 1>a big garbage dumpster, which I thought was funny. Oh yes,

1226
00:54:11.519 --> 00:54:13.119
<v Speaker 1>because you have to do that a lot in the game.

1227
00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:16.199
<v Speaker 1>And he goes into the town's sewer system.

1228
00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:18.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm back on track. I know where we're at.

1229
00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:21.960
<v Speaker 2>And then and then it cuts. Okay, this is why

1230
00:54:21.960 --> 00:54:24.800
<v Speaker 2>you got confused, because then it cuts, and then we're

1231
00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:28.039
<v Speaker 2>back in the present.

1232
00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Then they go to the hospital. Yeah, for a minute,

1233
00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was it jumps back and forth. It's

1234
00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:34.000
<v Speaker 1>actually kind of annoying, it is.

1235
00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:35.880
<v Speaker 4>The hospital just really stood out to me as being

1236
00:54:35.920 --> 00:54:37.480
<v Speaker 4>like this magnificent structure.

1237
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:40.679
<v Speaker 2>It's huge, it's gidianic, and then all the stretchers are

1238
00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:42.960
<v Speaker 2>just outside. I thought that was funny.

1239
00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:47.960
<v Speaker 4>It just looks like a billion dollar hospital in a

1240
00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:48.639
<v Speaker 4>small town.

1241
00:54:48.719 --> 00:54:50.119
<v Speaker 1>Do you think there was some like really you know

1242
00:54:50.159 --> 00:54:52.960
<v Speaker 1>how like resident Evil to that police station. It's the

1243
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:55.199
<v Speaker 1>most amazing looking thing ever, like it used to be

1244
00:54:55.239 --> 00:54:57.840
<v Speaker 1>a museum, like, Okay, at least there's some bullshit excuse

1245
00:54:57.880 --> 00:54:58.280
<v Speaker 1>for it.

1246
00:54:58.440 --> 00:54:58.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1247
00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:00.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they go to the Brook Hospital.

1248
00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:05.719
<v Speaker 1>Then they find a tape player with Mary talking to

1249
00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:09.719
<v Speaker 1>her doctor, and then Maria brings up the colt with

1250
00:55:09.840 --> 00:55:11.039
<v Speaker 1>the last name Crane.

1251
00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Uh, and then we.

1252
00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Go back to the past because the doctor was like,

1253
00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:19.159
<v Speaker 1>they've been giving you this thing. We see they give

1254
00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:21.760
<v Speaker 1>her some kind of poison or something.

1255
00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:25.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it's it's been slowly killing her, so

1256
00:55:25.400 --> 00:55:27.719
<v Speaker 3>it's like a poison that Yeah, although if you're taking

1257
00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:30.119
<v Speaker 3>a poison for that long, you would have built up

1258
00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:31.079
<v Speaker 3>an immunity, wouldn't you.

1259
00:55:31.159 --> 00:55:33.719
<v Speaker 2>I I guess it depends on the poison. I don't know,

1260
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:35.119
<v Speaker 2>I guess it it's magic.

1261
00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:38.800
<v Speaker 1>So they give so the colt gives her poison and

1262
00:55:38.840 --> 00:55:40.000
<v Speaker 1>then she starts bleeding.

1263
00:55:40.280 --> 00:55:41.760
<v Speaker 3>She bleeds like from everywhere.

1264
00:55:41.840 --> 00:55:44.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I didn't understand that. I'm like, they had to

1265
00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:46.199
<v Speaker 4>smear the blood on her, right.

1266
00:55:49.920 --> 00:55:52.440
<v Speaker 2>And then they all like drink her blood.

1267
00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:54.079
<v Speaker 3>Like they're sucking on her and everything.

1268
00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:56.280
<v Speaker 1>And then James is yelling at her and no one's acknowledged,

1269
00:55:56.400 --> 00:55:57.360
<v Speaker 1>no one can hear him.

1270
00:55:57.920 --> 00:56:01.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's going on here, but.

1271
00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:03.559
<v Speaker 4>So why would the path he went down lead him

1272
00:56:03.599 --> 00:56:05.920
<v Speaker 4>behind like this super great and not into the main

1273
00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:06.599
<v Speaker 4>room that they're in.

1274
00:56:06.760 --> 00:56:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was weird, But I honestly think he just

1275
00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:13.519
<v Speaker 1>put the cult stuff in here for people who only

1276
00:56:13.519 --> 00:56:16.079
<v Speaker 1>watched the movie and didn't play the games like the

1277
00:56:16.119 --> 00:56:19.239
<v Speaker 1>first movie, like the cold stuff, and he's like, oh,

1278
00:56:19.280 --> 00:56:21.400
<v Speaker 1>this one will also have a cult thing that will

1279
00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:24.800
<v Speaker 1>add there. And I'm like this was so unneeded. No

1280
00:56:24.800 --> 00:56:28.079
<v Speaker 1>one needed this, no one. It doesn't even tie directly

1281
00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:30.880
<v Speaker 1>to the first movie. So if people did only watch

1282
00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:32.880
<v Speaker 1>the first movie and they cared about it, this isn't

1283
00:56:32.920 --> 00:56:35.920
<v Speaker 1>satisfying for them. And then people played the games, They're like,

1284
00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:37.840
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck why is this even in here?

1285
00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:40.400
<v Speaker 4>I think trying to have flashback to explain the real

1286
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:42.079
<v Speaker 4>trauma of how they even got to this point would

1287
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:42.840
<v Speaker 4>have been more meaningful.

1288
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:45.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I don't understand what was so bad about

1289
00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:48.360
<v Speaker 2>him being like, oh, she had a terminal illness and

1290
00:56:48.400 --> 00:56:50.639
<v Speaker 2>I felt guilty about it and I was frustrated and

1291
00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:53.440
<v Speaker 2>what I mean that's like realistic, it happens turning it

1292
00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:58.519
<v Speaker 2>into the cult was poisoning her for evil magic and

1293
00:56:58.639 --> 00:57:00.559
<v Speaker 2>like this feels like the and there's.

1294
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:03.559
<v Speaker 3>No explanation of what is the outcome of this? No,

1295
00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:07.880
<v Speaker 3>like why do they do it? Like why are they

1296
00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:10.280
<v Speaker 3>going to live forever? Are they going to get all

1297
00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:13.480
<v Speaker 3>their dreams come true? Like that's never touched on.

1298
00:57:13.719 --> 00:57:15.920
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea, but like got to suck on

1299
00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:22.440
<v Speaker 2>a woman? Yeah, I mean who doesn't. But you know,

1300
00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:26.079
<v Speaker 2>actually you solve the movie's problem, right ten stars like

1301
00:57:26.119 --> 00:57:29.199
<v Speaker 2>share subscribe, but no, because they take again the game

1302
00:57:29.280 --> 00:57:32.599
<v Speaker 2>as ridiculous as it is with naked armless zombies and

1303
00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:35.639
<v Speaker 2>big I don't know, big gorilla things and there's weird

1304
00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:37.719
<v Speaker 2>shit in that game. But the whole thing of like

1305
00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:40.280
<v Speaker 2>feeling conflicted about a loved one who's sick and then

1306
00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:42.559
<v Speaker 2>feeling frustrated over it because it goes on for that

1307
00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:43.320
<v Speaker 2>is relatable.

1308
00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Changing it to a cult is doing this for evil

1309
00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:50.639
<v Speaker 1>demon magic. It makes it unrelatable and you kind of

1310
00:57:50.679 --> 00:57:53.320
<v Speaker 1>lose what was good about the game. Not saying you

1311
00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:55.360
<v Speaker 1>have to be like a game and an adaptation, but

1312
00:57:56.360 --> 00:57:57.760
<v Speaker 1>what you replaced it with.

1313
00:57:57.760 --> 00:57:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Was not good.

1314
00:57:58.559 --> 00:58:02.239
<v Speaker 4>We you don't make Silent Hill too and not make

1315
00:58:02.280 --> 00:58:03.119
<v Speaker 4>a Silent Hill too.

1316
00:58:03.239 --> 00:58:06.760
<v Speaker 2>So it's it's bizarre that they added this element to it.

1317
00:58:06.840 --> 00:58:10.480
<v Speaker 4>And again, it's not like he had to wait for

1318
00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:13.440
<v Speaker 4>the game to come out. He has source material from

1319
00:58:13.519 --> 00:58:14.360
<v Speaker 4>the original one.

1320
00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:16.920
<v Speaker 2>He likes the game, that's the weird thing.

1321
00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:19.880
<v Speaker 4>Clearly he doesn't because this was an abortion of.

1322
00:58:21.519 --> 00:58:26.280
<v Speaker 2>Weird thing. Like, I guess he wanted to make this.

1323
00:58:26.400 --> 00:58:28.440
<v Speaker 2>He's the writer. I can see if he didn't write

1324
00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:30.360
<v Speaker 2>it and he didn't have a lot of control over

1325
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:31.480
<v Speaker 2>the script, but he did.

1326
00:58:31.800 --> 00:58:34.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, maybe he like hit his head and he has

1327
00:58:34.599 --> 00:58:37.840
<v Speaker 4>like brain damage if he thought that this was would

1328
00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:42.159
<v Speaker 4>be good. Like, I can't fathom somebody being a fan

1329
00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:46.440
<v Speaker 4>of Silent Hill too and then doing what he did. Yeah,

1330
00:58:46.519 --> 00:58:47.840
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't make sense.

1331
00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:49.239
<v Speaker 2>It just breaks the whole thing.

1332
00:58:49.320 --> 00:58:51.760
<v Speaker 4>It just doesn't if you're a fan of something, and

1333
00:58:51.800 --> 00:58:53.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm a fan of a lot of games, I'm sure

1334
00:58:53.639 --> 00:58:54.960
<v Speaker 4>there are a lot of other people who a fan

1335
00:58:55.039 --> 00:58:57.360
<v Speaker 4>of many different games. And I always see the same

1336
00:58:57.360 --> 00:59:00.159
<v Speaker 4>criticism every time these movies come out. It just in

1337
00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:01.920
<v Speaker 4>the game, Like, all I want to do is they

1338
00:59:01.960 --> 00:59:04.039
<v Speaker 4>just want to see the game in movie for him,

1339
00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:06.559
<v Speaker 4>And it's apparently this is an impossible task for a

1340
00:59:06.599 --> 00:59:08.239
<v Speaker 4>lot of people who do game of adaptation.

1341
00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, the good how you get around that is adapt

1342
00:59:11.320 --> 00:59:13.159
<v Speaker 1>a game that has like no fucking story.

1343
00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:15.039
<v Speaker 2>That's why I love the Twisted Metal series.

1344
00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:18.119
<v Speaker 4>It was actually really good, though it's just like.

1345
00:59:17.880 --> 00:59:19.119
<v Speaker 2>What story from the game.

1346
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:21.960
<v Speaker 1>There's no like consistent story in those fucking games. It

1347
00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:25.199
<v Speaker 1>depends on who you're playing, like that's fun. Mortal Kombat

1348
00:59:25.239 --> 00:59:26.800
<v Speaker 1>got a little carried away with its lore and that's

1349
00:59:26.840 --> 00:59:28.239
<v Speaker 1>why their adaptations or whatever.

1350
00:59:28.239 --> 00:59:29.119
<v Speaker 2>All of the new ones, well, the.

1351
00:59:29.119 --> 00:59:33.400
<v Speaker 4>Lord got pretty crazy. The new one was so crazy

1352
00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:37.440
<v Speaker 4>they like we should reboot it, and then they're rebooted again.

1353
00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:41.280
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, the new the new movie was awesome. Wortal Combat too.

1354
00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:44.599
<v Speaker 1>Someone who hated the previous one, I was shocked at

1355
00:59:44.639 --> 00:59:47.519
<v Speaker 1>how well it was. But yeah, I feel like if

1356
00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:49.199
<v Speaker 1>you do you gotta just have to do a fucking

1357
00:59:49.239 --> 00:59:51.199
<v Speaker 1>game that has no story and then just have fun.

1358
00:59:51.559 --> 00:59:54.159
<v Speaker 4>Twisted Metal was enjoyable. It was good.

1359
00:59:54.239 --> 00:59:57.119
<v Speaker 1>The married the New Mario movies are okay, they're fine,

1360
00:59:58.000 --> 00:59:58.639
<v Speaker 1>shut up.

1361
01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:05.280
<v Speaker 2>Anyway. So yeah, he he doesn't like any of that.

1362
01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:08.920
<v Speaker 1>And the tape player says like, hey, uh, this is

1363
01:00:09.039 --> 01:00:11.719
<v Speaker 1>killing you. You probably shouldn't have been taking this drug

1364
01:00:11.800 --> 01:00:12.599
<v Speaker 1>for so long.

1365
01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:18.719
<v Speaker 4>Look that makes you bleed. But then in the hospital flag.

1366
01:00:20.039 --> 01:00:22.639
<v Speaker 1>In the hospital, the siren starts up again, and then

1367
01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the fucking darkness comes from his hand.

1368
01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:34.159
<v Speaker 2>It spreads everywhere that the rust world. Is that what

1369
01:00:34.199 --> 01:00:34.599
<v Speaker 2>they call it?

1370
01:00:35.239 --> 01:00:35.920
<v Speaker 4>People refer to it.

1371
01:00:36.119 --> 01:00:38.840
<v Speaker 2>They said it was the darkness in the movie, so

1372
01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:42.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm just going by that. In the first movie, they call.

1373
01:00:41.920 --> 01:00:44.159
<v Speaker 4>It the darkness. If you played, people are for tuning

1374
01:00:44.159 --> 01:00:44.519
<v Speaker 4>the game.

1375
01:00:44.519 --> 01:00:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, well listen, listen. They run to a room with

1376
01:00:47.599 --> 01:00:48.760
<v Speaker 2>all the nurses.

1377
01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:51.239
<v Speaker 4>I want to argue about this a little bit more.

1378
01:00:53.719 --> 01:00:54.400
<v Speaker 2>You know what's funny.

1379
01:00:54.400 --> 01:00:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, he's hitting his head. The lights are falling off.

1380
01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:00.000
<v Speaker 1>You know it's funny.

1381
01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:01.239
<v Speaker 3>But you hit your head and it made the lights

1382
01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:01.599
<v Speaker 3>come back.

1383
01:01:02.800 --> 01:01:04.639
<v Speaker 4>Well, let me know if I need to just whack

1384
01:01:04.679 --> 01:01:05.400
<v Speaker 4>it in my head.

1385
01:01:05.400 --> 01:01:07.000
<v Speaker 1>The weird thing is I think the episode that's coming

1386
01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:10.599
<v Speaker 1>out after this we Also those lights are only glitching

1387
01:01:10.599 --> 01:01:14.320
<v Speaker 1>when I'm talking about horror movies. I stay down here

1388
01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:17.559
<v Speaker 1>all day long, no light issue, every review, no light issue.

1389
01:01:17.639 --> 01:01:20.039
<v Speaker 1>The last two horror movies I review. Suddenly that light's

1390
01:01:20.079 --> 01:01:24.559
<v Speaker 1>freaking out. Anyway, they get to the room with all

1391
01:01:24.760 --> 01:01:28.880
<v Speaker 1>the nurses, and then the nurses come to life and

1392
01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:30.880
<v Speaker 1>chase them, and they don't look as good as the

1393
01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:31.639
<v Speaker 1>first movie.

1394
01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:33.840
<v Speaker 4>No, A lot less sexy, A.

1395
01:01:33.880 --> 01:01:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Lot less sexy, and now they're porcelain.

1396
01:01:36.280 --> 01:01:42.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was weird. Some of their faces were open

1397
01:01:42.159 --> 01:01:43.519
<v Speaker 4>and porous. Yeah.

1398
01:01:43.559 --> 01:01:46.199
<v Speaker 3>And then also I was very confused and like the

1399
01:01:46.239 --> 01:01:50.280
<v Speaker 3>one nurse starts like the banging of the pots or

1400
01:01:50.360 --> 01:01:52.679
<v Speaker 3>like whatever she has like a pipe or something, And

1401
01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:55.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, but that's how they start killing each other

1402
01:01:55.519 --> 01:01:57.920
<v Speaker 3>because they hear the sounds. Yeah, the other movie and

1403
01:01:57.960 --> 01:01:59.760
<v Speaker 3>this one. She's just like, all right, guys, let's go

1404
01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:01.039
<v Speaker 3>wow dinner time.

1405
01:02:01.320 --> 01:02:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it seems like they don't. They don't hunt based

1406
01:02:03.840 --> 01:02:07.719
<v Speaker 1>off sound. They could just find the game they sound. Yeah,

1407
01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:08.920
<v Speaker 1>and that was the weird part.

1408
01:02:09.320 --> 01:02:12.280
<v Speaker 4>And then they run to an elevator and he's hitting

1409
01:02:12.320 --> 01:02:15.159
<v Speaker 4>this button to go down, Like, clearly there's no power

1410
01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:18.199
<v Speaker 4>in the elevator, so what the hell are you doing?

1411
01:02:18.199 --> 01:02:21.000
<v Speaker 1>He has he he has an old boy moment where

1412
01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:23.000
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna fight them all with like a weapon in

1413
01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:24.960
<v Speaker 1>a hallway. I did like that shot of them, what

1414
01:02:25.159 --> 01:02:28.239
<v Speaker 1>that awkward white shot of them like just skipping toward him.

1415
01:02:28.599 --> 01:02:30.559
<v Speaker 1>But then he's just bunking them on the head. Again

1416
01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:31.159
<v Speaker 1>it's porcelain.

1417
01:02:31.199 --> 01:02:34.159
<v Speaker 2>It was cooler when they bloodshot out of them and everything.

1418
01:02:34.039 --> 01:02:37.159
<v Speaker 4>And then Marie zero survival instinct to just stand there

1419
01:02:37.199 --> 01:02:38.559
<v Speaker 4>watched it came up and get stats.

1420
01:02:38.800 --> 01:02:39.679
<v Speaker 2>Dad.

1421
01:02:39.679 --> 01:02:42.079
<v Speaker 1>This might be a case where like, yeah, I guess

1422
01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:44.039
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't want to like repeat himself too much because

1423
01:02:44.039 --> 01:02:46.519
<v Speaker 1>he did such a good nurse scene in the first movie,

1424
01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:48.840
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, well, I I kind of have to

1425
01:02:48.960 --> 01:02:52.039
<v Speaker 1>do a nurse scene again in this movie. But yeah,

1426
01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:55.400
<v Speaker 1>the scenario that I imagine we already did, so now

1427
01:02:55.440 --> 01:02:58.159
<v Speaker 1>I gotta do something different. It's just mandated I need

1428
01:02:58.159 --> 01:03:00.920
<v Speaker 1>the sexy nurses in this and this is what he

1429
01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:03.320
<v Speaker 1>came up with. They chase it down the hallway and

1430
01:03:03.320 --> 01:03:05.400
<v Speaker 1>he bunks them on that head. I'm like, this is

1431
01:03:05.760 --> 01:03:07.119
<v Speaker 1>this is really a big left down.

1432
01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:10.679
<v Speaker 4>Actually, I feel like the scene could have been improved

1433
01:03:11.159 --> 01:03:14.400
<v Speaker 4>to by maybe having like the lights flicker that way,

1434
01:03:14.480 --> 01:03:18.199
<v Speaker 4>like when he goes to the elevator, it would seem

1435
01:03:18.239 --> 01:03:20.199
<v Speaker 4>like there might be a semblance of power, so what

1436
01:03:20.239 --> 01:03:22.719
<v Speaker 4>he's doing doesn't seem absolutely fucking insane.

1437
01:03:25.320 --> 01:03:26.760
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, Marie gets stabbed.

1438
01:03:26.880 --> 01:03:31.119
<v Speaker 4>Maria Maria or Maria.

1439
01:03:29.960 --> 01:03:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Maria gets stabbed and they get away. He treats her

1440
01:03:35.840 --> 01:03:38.400
<v Speaker 2>wound and she says like, hey, I know what.

1441
01:03:42.599 --> 01:03:47.280
<v Speaker 4>It's video gat to.

1442
01:03:49.199 --> 01:03:51.079
<v Speaker 3>Like you could be like sliced in half and then

1443
01:03:51.079 --> 01:03:54.239
<v Speaker 3>as long as you get your healing whatever else you had.

1444
01:03:55.119 --> 01:03:57.639
<v Speaker 2>I was just shot. Let me get some greener. I'm

1445
01:03:57.639 --> 01:03:59.079
<v Speaker 2>all better.

1446
01:03:59.159 --> 01:04:02.639
<v Speaker 4>I love the Resident Evil seven. You're getting shot stabbed

1447
01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:05.840
<v Speaker 4>and it's like on the hand, put the thing on

1448
01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:09.840
<v Speaker 4>your hand. It's like, ah.

1449
01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Freaking Ethan had limbs cut off and he just poured liquid.

1450
01:04:12.320 --> 01:04:16.239
<v Speaker 1>He's like, I'm all better now. So she's like, I

1451
01:04:16.280 --> 01:04:18.440
<v Speaker 1>know I look like Mary because the way you look

1452
01:04:18.480 --> 01:04:20.440
<v Speaker 1>at me, I must look like her. And she's like,

1453
01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:23.119
<v Speaker 1>promise me if you don't find her, we'll leave together.

1454
01:04:24.119 --> 01:04:26.400
<v Speaker 1>And he's just like, yeah, I'll think about it.

1455
01:04:26.679 --> 01:04:30.519
<v Speaker 4>Nothing to her. He just turns around and walks the

1456
01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:31.199
<v Speaker 4>funk away.

1457
01:04:31.719 --> 01:04:33.920
<v Speaker 2>I remember in the game, isn't She's just like, I'm tired.

1458
01:04:33.960 --> 01:04:35.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go sleep in this room.

1459
01:04:35.559 --> 01:04:38.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like a jail celler or something like.

1460
01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:39.039
<v Speaker 2>That, something like that.

1461
01:04:39.280 --> 01:04:41.280
<v Speaker 1>I think it was the hospital, but it looked like

1462
01:04:41.320 --> 01:04:42.760
<v Speaker 1>a jail cell Yeah.

1463
01:04:43.440 --> 01:04:45.519
<v Speaker 4>I think she's like, oh no, no, you're right. She

1464
01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:47.679
<v Speaker 4>was in a room. She was in a room.

1465
01:04:47.719 --> 01:04:50.079
<v Speaker 2>But then he finds Lara, who has.

1466
01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:50.920
<v Speaker 4>The dirtiest bed.

1467
01:04:51.199 --> 01:04:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1468
01:04:51.679 --> 01:04:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Wait, he finds Laura, who has the baby that's just screaming,

1469
01:04:55.800 --> 01:04:56.239
<v Speaker 1>and he's.

1470
01:04:56.119 --> 01:05:00.280
<v Speaker 2>Like, what the fuck is this? It's cute, but she

1471
01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:00.679
<v Speaker 2>tells him.

1472
01:05:00.679 --> 01:05:02.960
<v Speaker 1>He's like, yeah, you left Mary and he's like, wait, what,

1473
01:05:03.119 --> 01:05:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing this all for her? It's like you don't

1474
01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:05.639
<v Speaker 1>like her that much.

1475
01:05:06.079 --> 01:05:07.360
<v Speaker 4>I thought it was going to be a metaphor like

1476
01:05:07.400 --> 01:05:09.760
<v Speaker 4>they had a baby and they like abandon it or

1477
01:05:09.800 --> 01:05:10.480
<v Speaker 4>something like that.

1478
01:05:10.679 --> 01:05:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the baby imagery is weird in this way.

1479
01:05:12.639 --> 01:05:14.760
<v Speaker 1>It made more sense for the first movie is like

1480
01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:16.519
<v Speaker 1>the mother and daughter and everything.

1481
01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:18.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm wondering if it had, like if they had some

1482
01:05:18.760 --> 01:05:21.280
<v Speaker 3>more of a cult storyline and then involve the baby.

1483
01:05:21.480 --> 01:05:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering if wondering if like earlier drafts lean more

1484
01:05:25.519 --> 01:05:28.119
<v Speaker 1>into the cult stuff, and then they removed it to

1485
01:05:28.159 --> 01:05:29.840
<v Speaker 1>be more like the game, but there was just too

1486
01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:30.400
<v Speaker 1>much of a.

1487
01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:32.119
<v Speaker 4>Well, they removed some Eddie scenes.

1488
01:05:32.119 --> 01:05:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Apparently, if they removed all of it, release the Eddie cut.

1489
01:05:37.360 --> 01:05:39.000
<v Speaker 4>Yo, let me like what I like?

1490
01:05:39.719 --> 01:05:41.840
<v Speaker 2>He wants to see Eddie eating a bunch of ice

1491
01:05:41.880 --> 01:05:42.960
<v Speaker 2>cream and an ill fitting.

1492
01:05:43.679 --> 01:05:46.519
<v Speaker 4>I want to see Eddie Eddie in the movie theater,

1493
01:05:46.800 --> 01:05:52.039
<v Speaker 4>just slamming Glizzies with Laura watching a movie.

1494
01:05:56.079 --> 01:05:56.679
<v Speaker 3>The baby.

1495
01:05:57.000 --> 01:05:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the baby dolls creepy.

1496
01:05:59.320 --> 01:05:59.440
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

1497
01:05:59.480 --> 01:06:01.239
<v Speaker 2>He followed her and she locks him in.

1498
01:06:01.239 --> 01:06:03.360
<v Speaker 4>A room, which happens in the game.

1499
01:06:03.519 --> 01:06:06.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and this is where we get the ceiling Stretcher

1500
01:06:06.920 --> 01:06:09.800
<v Speaker 1>boss battle, or what I thought was gonna be the

1501
01:06:09.840 --> 01:06:15.480
<v Speaker 1>ceiling Stretcher Lady boss battle. Instead, it's a really bad

1502
01:06:15.519 --> 01:06:18.119
<v Speaker 1>makeup effect. It looks like it looks supposed to be

1503
01:06:18.119 --> 01:06:19.840
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be look like a dying person, but it

1504
01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:20.840
<v Speaker 1>looks like a space alien.

1505
01:06:20.920 --> 01:06:23.360
<v Speaker 4>And I feel like the shot of her face was

1506
01:06:23.400 --> 01:06:26.199
<v Speaker 4>too long. They were like showing her too long and

1507
01:06:26.239 --> 01:06:27.920
<v Speaker 4>it takes away a lot of the suspense and makes

1508
01:06:27.960 --> 01:06:28.679
<v Speaker 4>it more awkward.

1509
01:06:28.800 --> 01:06:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1510
01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:31.920
<v Speaker 1>And then she has like four arms and she shoves

1511
01:06:32.079 --> 01:06:33.159
<v Speaker 1>her fingers in his mouth.

1512
01:06:33.239 --> 01:06:34.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was pretty hot.

1513
01:06:36.719 --> 01:06:39.320
<v Speaker 2>And then he wakes up in the normal world.

1514
01:06:39.239 --> 01:06:40.639
<v Speaker 4>Which I then immediately hated.

1515
01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Uh, and this therapist is like, hey, I'm here, stop.

1516
01:06:47.159 --> 01:06:50.519
<v Speaker 1>Mary's dead. She's been dead for months, you eighty eight

1517
01:06:52.920 --> 01:06:55.480
<v Speaker 1>And he's just like, oh, okay, I'm gonna have a

1518
01:06:55.480 --> 01:06:58.400
<v Speaker 1>flashback down. This is where he flashes back to confronting

1519
01:06:58.440 --> 01:07:01.440
<v Speaker 1>her about the Colt and he's like, pack your bags

1520
01:07:01.440 --> 01:07:05.119
<v Speaker 1>were leaving, and this is the dialogue here feels bearing

1521
01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:06.840
<v Speaker 1>video gave me and woulden.

1522
01:07:07.239 --> 01:07:10.480
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I followed a girl today and then.

1523
01:07:10.440 --> 01:07:13.920
<v Speaker 4>She led, first of all, not packing bags. We're leaving.

1524
01:07:14.039 --> 01:07:16.519
<v Speaker 4>It would be packing. I'm packing my bags, I'm leaving.

1525
01:07:16.760 --> 01:07:19.519
<v Speaker 4>What I just saw was fucking the name and I

1526
01:07:19.559 --> 01:07:24.239
<v Speaker 4>want no part. And then he's too forgiving, like he

1527
01:07:25.159 --> 01:07:27.159
<v Speaker 4>there he's drowning in red flags.

1528
01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:29.280
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, she's also a problem because he's like,

1529
01:07:29.280 --> 01:07:30.679
<v Speaker 1>why do you tell me about this? And she's like,

1530
01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:32.519
<v Speaker 1>I told you were things about me you wouldn't like,

1531
01:07:32.960 --> 01:07:35.000
<v Speaker 1>and you said you'd accept me. You should have been

1532
01:07:35.079 --> 01:07:39.440
<v Speaker 1>like I think Colt was like the first time you met,

1533
01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:40.239
<v Speaker 1>I was flirting.

1534
01:07:40.320 --> 01:07:42.840
<v Speaker 4>I think it'd be bleeding from every orifice while people

1535
01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:43.360
<v Speaker 4>licked you.

1536
01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:46.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like being licked by an evil cold

1537
01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:47.039
<v Speaker 1>is something you.

1538
01:07:47.199 --> 01:07:49.800
<v Speaker 4>Have All things I could guess that are a problem.

1539
01:07:49.800 --> 01:07:56.199
<v Speaker 4>That would not be one of them, but they hair

1540
01:07:56.320 --> 01:07:59.000
<v Speaker 4>killing a guy would be less, yeah, problematic.

1541
01:07:59.079 --> 01:08:01.480
<v Speaker 2>But she won't leave with him. She won't leave with him.

1542
01:08:01.519 --> 01:08:03.800
<v Speaker 1>She refuses to leave with him because she's heartbroken that

1543
01:08:03.880 --> 01:08:05.760
<v Speaker 1>he's and that's got something cult.

1544
01:08:05.760 --> 01:08:08.880
<v Speaker 4>It's a good thing for him because she's fucking insane

1545
01:08:09.119 --> 01:08:10.519
<v Speaker 4>and he needs to get out of there.

1546
01:08:10.599 --> 01:08:15.119
<v Speaker 1>He does, he does, And this is another shot I

1547
01:08:15.119 --> 01:08:16.640
<v Speaker 1>really like, where he gets at his card. He looks

1548
01:08:16.640 --> 01:08:18.840
<v Speaker 1>back and everyone in the apartment complex or at their

1549
01:08:18.840 --> 01:08:22.279
<v Speaker 1>windows staring at him, Like, but again, that's that's now

1550
01:08:22.279 --> 01:08:25.399
<v Speaker 1>We're making the movie about like a cult manipulating them

1551
01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:29.720
<v Speaker 1>and not so much about his grief and guilt, which

1552
01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:32.439
<v Speaker 1>is what's so important about the game. And I'm like,

1553
01:08:33.760 --> 01:08:36.039
<v Speaker 1>and this Colt stuff never really pays off. The Colt

1554
01:08:36.119 --> 01:08:38.680
<v Speaker 1>never gets any cobumpins. We never really learned what happens

1555
01:08:38.720 --> 01:08:38.960
<v Speaker 1>to them.

1556
01:08:39.159 --> 01:08:41.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what their purpose is, Like, yeah, what

1557
01:08:41.720 --> 01:08:44.359
<v Speaker 3>happened to them? Like, it's never like it would have

1558
01:08:44.359 --> 01:08:47.199
<v Speaker 3>been at least sort of interesting if he ran into

1559
01:08:47.239 --> 01:08:49.840
<v Speaker 3>them while he's looking for Mary in this sun.

1560
01:08:49.680 --> 01:08:53.760
<v Speaker 4>Hill nobody's story is solved in this nobody's so yeah.

1561
01:08:53.880 --> 01:08:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Therapist tells him like, hey, your brain's dumb, stop being

1562
01:08:57.680 --> 01:09:01.600
<v Speaker 1>like that, and he's like, okay, I'm just gonna I'm

1563
01:09:01.640 --> 01:09:04.640
<v Speaker 1>just gonna go look out this window and he's like, hey,

1564
01:09:04.640 --> 01:09:07.800
<v Speaker 1>that's a hot lady outside, and then the darkness comes back.

1565
01:09:07.960 --> 01:09:10.720
<v Speaker 2>Months are everywhere and he's still there.

1566
01:09:10.840 --> 01:09:13.760
<v Speaker 1>And I guess this whole previous sea was supposed to

1567
01:09:13.760 --> 01:09:15.880
<v Speaker 1>be like a fake out, like it was just a dream.

1568
01:09:16.079 --> 01:09:16.880
<v Speaker 2>You know what movie did that?

1569
01:09:16.880 --> 01:09:17.279
<v Speaker 4>Really? Well?

1570
01:09:17.399 --> 01:09:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Remember fourteen oh eight The Haunted Hotel Room. Do you

1571
01:09:20.840 --> 01:09:21.479
<v Speaker 1>ever see that one?

1572
01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:25.119
<v Speaker 2>No spoiler, it's really good.

1573
01:09:25.159 --> 01:09:27.359
<v Speaker 1>It's a haunted hotel room that's trippy and mess with

1574
01:09:27.399 --> 01:09:29.800
<v Speaker 1>your mind. And like toward the end, you think he

1575
01:09:29.880 --> 01:09:32.640
<v Speaker 1>got out and he's free, and we see him going

1576
01:09:32.680 --> 01:09:34.399
<v Speaker 1>about his day and everything, and then he like goes

1577
01:09:34.399 --> 01:09:37.760
<v Speaker 1>to the post office and suddenly construction workers start breaking

1578
01:09:37.800 --> 01:09:39.720
<v Speaker 1>down the walls and it realized he realized he's still

1579
01:09:39.760 --> 01:09:42.119
<v Speaker 1>been in the hotel room the whole time. That was

1580
01:09:42.159 --> 01:09:44.119
<v Speaker 1>a good fake out. That was a really good fake out.

1581
01:09:44.479 --> 01:09:47.239
<v Speaker 1>This not so much because it comes at a weird

1582
01:09:47.279 --> 01:09:48.880
<v Speaker 1>time in the movie where you're like, well, the movie's

1583
01:09:48.880 --> 01:09:53.279
<v Speaker 1>obviously not ending now, and at no point did I

1584
01:09:53.279 --> 01:09:55.119
<v Speaker 1>think we were ever gonna stay in the real world.

1585
01:09:55.199 --> 01:09:58.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, obviously he's gonna go back. So I

1586
01:09:58.039 --> 01:09:59.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know if any of that therapist stuff is real.

1587
01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:02.800
<v Speaker 1>It's weird that we see her having conversations with the

1588
01:10:02.880 --> 01:10:03.680
<v Speaker 1>doctors and stuff.

1589
01:10:03.760 --> 01:10:05.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think that's the only that maybe illudes that

1590
01:10:05.920 --> 01:10:09.600
<v Speaker 4>maybe she is and just everything and you're just not

1591
01:10:09.640 --> 01:10:11.840
<v Speaker 4>getting her whole story. Again, you're not getting the whole

1592
01:10:11.880 --> 01:10:14.920
<v Speaker 4>story of somebody crazy. But other than that, she just

1593
01:10:14.960 --> 01:10:16.479
<v Speaker 4>seems not real.

1594
01:10:17.479 --> 01:10:18.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1595
01:10:18.359 --> 01:10:21.000
<v Speaker 1>If she wasn't having scenes with other people by herself,

1596
01:10:21.039 --> 01:10:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I would say she's just a figment of his imagination.

1597
01:10:24.039 --> 01:10:26.680
<v Speaker 2>But she is. So it's like, in the real world,

1598
01:10:26.720 --> 01:10:29.840
<v Speaker 2>is he just in a hospital bed going like Mary, Ah,

1599
01:10:29.880 --> 01:10:30.600
<v Speaker 2>what a monster?

1600
01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:33.439
<v Speaker 1>And they're like, he's talking about a monster again, Let's

1601
01:10:33.439 --> 01:10:34.359
<v Speaker 1>just give him more morphine.

1602
01:10:34.399 --> 01:10:34.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

1603
01:10:34.840 --> 01:10:37.159
<v Speaker 4>I feel like, out of all things that it can

1604
01:10:37.279 --> 01:10:40.000
<v Speaker 4>actually be left up to an interpretation. Yeah, and that

1605
01:10:40.079 --> 01:10:41.399
<v Speaker 4>and that would be okay.

1606
01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:42.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would be fine.

1607
01:10:44.199 --> 01:10:47.319
<v Speaker 1>Say he's back with Maria now and she kisses him,

1608
01:10:47.399 --> 01:10:49.000
<v Speaker 1>She's like, can we stay together?

1609
01:10:49.840 --> 01:10:50.800
<v Speaker 2>I want to be together?

1610
01:10:50.920 --> 01:10:53.439
<v Speaker 1>And he's just like nah, and he leaves her behind,

1611
01:10:53.439 --> 01:10:54.880
<v Speaker 1>but then she gets on the elevator with him, and

1612
01:10:54.880 --> 01:10:58.159
<v Speaker 1>then we get that spinning camera shot and then.

1613
01:10:58.039 --> 01:11:00.560
<v Speaker 3>The elevators just plumbing down.

1614
01:11:01.479 --> 01:11:04.720
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, I don't remember this part that I

1615
01:11:04.720 --> 01:11:05.239
<v Speaker 4>black out.

1616
01:11:05.640 --> 01:11:08.359
<v Speaker 1>Probably remember, Yeah, they get the elevator, they go all

1617
01:11:08.359 --> 01:11:11.880
<v Speaker 1>the way down, which is which I will uh, I

1618
01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:14.960
<v Speaker 1>will take that over the really long staircase in Silent

1619
01:11:15.039 --> 01:11:15.399
<v Speaker 1>Hill too.

1620
01:11:15.479 --> 01:11:16.720
<v Speaker 2>There's that one part you just have to.

1621
01:11:16.720 --> 01:11:19.359
<v Speaker 1>Go down a really really long staircase and it goes

1622
01:11:19.359 --> 01:11:20.479
<v Speaker 1>on for a fucking while.

1623
01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:22.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember that part, but that was annoying.

1624
01:11:22.680 --> 01:11:24.399
<v Speaker 4>There's a ladder you go down for a little while,

1625
01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:26.359
<v Speaker 4>also a lot of holes you jump in.

1626
01:11:27.159 --> 01:11:28.560
<v Speaker 2>A ladder and a staircase.

1627
01:11:28.680 --> 01:11:32.520
<v Speaker 4>This movie was missing James jumping into holes and sticking

1628
01:11:32.560 --> 01:11:35.319
<v Speaker 4>his arms in the hole. It really needed more hole

1629
01:11:35.720 --> 01:11:37.079
<v Speaker 4>holes being filled with his arms.

1630
01:11:37.119 --> 01:11:37.359
<v Speaker 2>Again.

1631
01:11:37.439 --> 01:11:41.720
<v Speaker 4>That's again they this story needed more holes filled.

1632
01:11:46.079 --> 01:11:48.640
<v Speaker 2>I get what you're saying, that clipped out of context.

1633
01:11:48.680 --> 01:11:51.359
<v Speaker 2>That could go the wrong way again.

1634
01:11:51.399 --> 01:11:54.439
<v Speaker 1>But that's another thing where I almost wish this was

1635
01:11:54.520 --> 01:11:57.600
<v Speaker 1>a different director who hadn't done all this stuff before

1636
01:11:57.640 --> 01:12:00.319
<v Speaker 1>and did his own stamp because taking things out of

1637
01:12:00.359 --> 01:12:02.119
<v Speaker 1>creepy hole. She did that in the first one with

1638
01:12:02.199 --> 01:12:04.359
<v Speaker 1>the guy taking the key out of the guy's mouth.

1639
01:12:04.720 --> 01:12:07.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's like, oh, yeah, well we already did that.

1640
01:12:08.079 --> 01:12:10.039
<v Speaker 4>It's like, okay, we can do it again if we're

1641
01:12:10.079 --> 01:12:12.720
<v Speaker 4>if we're making a good story, that it's okay. But

1642
01:12:12.800 --> 01:12:14.960
<v Speaker 4>it's okay to make a good story.

1643
01:12:14.840 --> 01:12:17.039
<v Speaker 1>Just have someone else do it. I don't know why

1644
01:12:17.039 --> 01:12:18.960
<v Speaker 1>he felt the need for him to come back.

1645
01:12:20.600 --> 01:12:23.000
<v Speaker 2>We're going sorry, the sirens going off or going into

1646
01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:24.960
<v Speaker 2>the other world, I got it. One plug that thing.

1647
01:12:24.960 --> 01:12:26.359
<v Speaker 2>There must must be loose somewhere.

1648
01:12:26.439 --> 01:12:28.640
<v Speaker 1>They get off the elevator and now they're in a

1649
01:12:28.760 --> 01:12:32.439
<v Speaker 1>giant maze with paintings of Mary's face everywhere.

1650
01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:35.399
<v Speaker 4>I remember this part. Yeah, I think I blacked out.

1651
01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:36.079
<v Speaker 4>I do.

1652
01:12:36.199 --> 01:12:37.680
<v Speaker 1>I do like kind of I kind of like this

1653
01:12:37.760 --> 01:12:40.119
<v Speaker 1>look of them just walking around the maze. I love

1654
01:12:40.159 --> 01:12:42.239
<v Speaker 1>when it pulled out and showed like how big it

1655
01:12:42.359 --> 01:12:43.680
<v Speaker 1>was and the lights are going off.

1656
01:12:43.760 --> 01:12:46.840
<v Speaker 4>I do like that her face was slowly contorted into

1657
01:12:46.840 --> 01:12:47.399
<v Speaker 4>pictures too.

1658
01:12:47.520 --> 01:12:47.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1659
01:12:47.720 --> 01:12:50.239
<v Speaker 1>That was a good And this feels kind of like

1660
01:12:50.279 --> 01:12:53.600
<v Speaker 1>the later parts of the game where we're gonna just

1661
01:12:53.600 --> 01:12:55.920
<v Speaker 1>starts to feel like so not like the real world.

1662
01:12:56.199 --> 01:12:58.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, that is a transition.

1663
01:12:58.840 --> 01:13:03.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, but yeah, he Maria just keeps telling him like, hey,

1664
01:13:03.600 --> 01:13:09.279
<v Speaker 1>stop stop looking for Mary. She's gone, basically saying move on, yeah,

1665
01:13:09.439 --> 01:13:13.039
<v Speaker 1>let's move on, and he's like, you're not real. I'm

1666
01:13:13.119 --> 01:13:15.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna use my brain power to get rid of you.

1667
01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:20.399
<v Speaker 1>Cuts a pyramid Head fucking slicing her up the middle.

1668
01:13:20.760 --> 01:13:24.600
<v Speaker 1>That was fucking brutal. Poor Maria. I don't think she

1669
01:13:24.680 --> 01:13:25.159
<v Speaker 1>deserved that.

1670
01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:28.319
<v Speaker 2>Flowers you know what's section from the game.

1671
01:13:28.359 --> 01:13:31.439
<v Speaker 1>I really wish they would have done that weird three

1672
01:13:31.560 --> 01:13:36.039
<v Speaker 1>D puzzle with the giant. No, that was the worst

1673
01:13:36.039 --> 01:13:40.239
<v Speaker 1>part is you also struggle with that one.

1674
01:13:37.960 --> 01:13:43.960
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if it's just because I'm stupid or

1675
01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:47.239
<v Speaker 4>if it was actually legitimately hard to do, but I

1676
01:13:47.399 --> 01:13:50.520
<v Speaker 4>was stuck there for way too long, and like it,

1677
01:13:50.800 --> 01:13:53.159
<v Speaker 4>when I get stuck in something like that for too long,

1678
01:13:53.359 --> 01:13:56.760
<v Speaker 4>I actually feel like an idiot. I'm like, I'm like,

1679
01:13:56.840 --> 01:13:58.720
<v Speaker 4>I bet you there's someone else that there, if they

1680
01:13:58.720 --> 01:14:00.840
<v Speaker 4>were watching it, be like this guy.

1681
01:14:01.039 --> 01:14:03.079
<v Speaker 1>No, it's it's took me a while. I also would

1682
01:14:03.079 --> 01:14:05.760
<v Speaker 1>have liked the hallway with the arms coming out. That

1683
01:14:05.760 --> 01:14:06.399
<v Speaker 1>would have been cool.

1684
01:14:06.479 --> 01:14:07.319
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, that was.

1685
01:14:08.279 --> 01:14:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Pyramid Head has killed her and then we flashed back

1686
01:14:13.399 --> 01:14:17.680
<v Speaker 1>to him with a big fake beard. It's really bad.

1687
01:14:17.800 --> 01:14:19.239
<v Speaker 4>It was so bad.

1688
01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:23.800
<v Speaker 2>Uh, And then he paints himself and then he draws

1689
01:14:23.840 --> 01:14:26.159
<v Speaker 2>up pyramid over his head just in case.

1690
01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:28.039
<v Speaker 4>We didn't in case he didn't get it yet.

1691
01:14:28.079 --> 01:14:30.199
<v Speaker 2>But we all got it. We got it right away.

1692
01:14:30.359 --> 01:14:32.279
<v Speaker 3>Actually, it didn't take too long.

1693
01:14:32.840 --> 01:14:33.439
<v Speaker 2>Again, if they.

1694
01:14:33.399 --> 01:14:35.039
<v Speaker 4>Didn't, if you didn't get it from the last helm

1695
01:14:35.880 --> 01:14:38.880
<v Speaker 4>where they showed his face again and manifesting pyramid head,

1696
01:14:38.880 --> 01:14:41.880
<v Speaker 4>if you haven't figured it out yet, guys, you don't

1697
01:14:41.920 --> 01:14:42.920
<v Speaker 4>need to play the games so now.

1698
01:14:44.920 --> 01:14:47.479
<v Speaker 1>So, Yeah, he wakes up from this flashback and he's

1699
01:14:47.560 --> 01:14:50.039
<v Speaker 1>in the water and he washes up next to the

1700
01:14:50.119 --> 01:14:54.199
<v Speaker 1>Lakeview Hotel which is on fire. Which it's on fire

1701
01:14:54.199 --> 01:14:54.600
<v Speaker 1>at the.

1702
01:14:54.640 --> 01:14:57.079
<v Speaker 2>Very very end. I remember there being a lot of

1703
01:14:57.119 --> 01:14:58.159
<v Speaker 2>fire at the end of the game.

1704
01:14:58.279 --> 01:15:00.880
<v Speaker 4>There was when you were doing Angela's.

1705
01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Angela's Trauma. Yeah.

1706
01:15:03.279 --> 01:15:05.439
<v Speaker 1>Because they're having a conversation in a room that's all

1707
01:15:05.479 --> 01:15:07.439
<v Speaker 1>on fire, I'm like they would be struggling to breathe.

1708
01:15:07.479 --> 01:15:08.720
<v Speaker 2>But I guess this is a magic I.

1709
01:15:08.640 --> 01:15:14.239
<v Speaker 4>Think, wasn't it ship What didn't Angela burn the house

1710
01:15:14.279 --> 01:15:15.199
<v Speaker 4>out of their dad in it?

1711
01:15:15.720 --> 01:15:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Way? So I think that's why that was there.

1712
01:15:17.720 --> 01:15:20.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I could be wrong. I'm not sure somebody in

1713
01:15:20.840 --> 01:15:22.239
<v Speaker 4>the comments will correct me on which.

1714
01:15:22.079 --> 01:15:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Again, if you're gonna say that Mary killed her father

1715
01:15:24.920 --> 01:15:28.000
<v Speaker 1>with fire, if we're going to commit to merging these characters, sure,

1716
01:15:28.079 --> 01:15:30.359
<v Speaker 1>but they didn't do that, so now it's just on fire.

1717
01:15:30.680 --> 01:15:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1718
01:15:32.239 --> 01:15:34.479
<v Speaker 1>When he gets in there, he sees Lara, whose face

1719
01:15:34.640 --> 01:15:39.000
<v Speaker 1>does start to change into Mary a little bit, and

1720
01:15:39.039 --> 01:15:41.880
<v Speaker 1>she asked him for Mary's full name, which is Mary

1721
01:15:42.119 --> 01:15:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Angela Lara Crane.

1722
01:15:44.199 --> 01:15:50.399
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the worst. I can't believe they didn't throw him

1723
01:15:50.399 --> 01:15:52.159
<v Speaker 4>like Eddie and things stuff.

1724
01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:58.600
<v Speaker 1>There Mary, Mary, Marie, Angela, Lara, pyramid head, Eddie, bed daddy,

1725
01:15:59.319 --> 01:16:06.520
<v Speaker 1>sexycy homeless man, homeless, creepy homeless man with radio.

1726
01:16:06.359 --> 01:16:08.880
<v Speaker 4>There, just having the four names on the tomb so no,

1727
01:16:09.319 --> 01:16:09.600
<v Speaker 4>just like.

1728
01:16:11.800 --> 01:16:14.279
<v Speaker 2>Uh. Then so he realizes that they're all connected.

1729
01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:17.039
<v Speaker 4>It was that it was so bad.

1730
01:16:18.600 --> 01:16:22.439
<v Speaker 3>They're all versions of Mary, yes.

1731
01:16:22.439 --> 01:16:24.680
<v Speaker 4>Which they weren't in the King.

1732
01:16:24.840 --> 01:16:29.199
<v Speaker 2>They worried. But yeah, he finds Angela Maria but yeah, Maria.

1733
01:16:29.319 --> 01:16:31.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah the tombstone though, Yeah.

1734
01:16:32.800 --> 01:16:36.960
<v Speaker 1>The one, the one that wouldn't matter the most. But yeah,

1735
01:16:36.960 --> 01:16:38.640
<v Speaker 1>he finds Angela, who's sitting on a bed and she

1736
01:16:38.680 --> 01:16:40.560
<v Speaker 1>can't get up because the bed has grown hands.

1737
01:16:40.600 --> 01:16:43.239
<v Speaker 2>This scene was kind of cool. But yeah, and the

1738
01:16:43.359 --> 01:16:45.439
<v Speaker 2>pools are underneath and it pulls both of them into

1739
01:16:45.479 --> 01:16:48.760
<v Speaker 2>like a fleshy world in the game. That was that.

1740
01:16:48.840 --> 01:16:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was And then this would have been the

1741
01:16:50.800 --> 01:16:54.039
<v Speaker 1>whole sequence where you're running from the bed daddy whatever it.

1742
01:16:54.079 --> 01:16:57.439
<v Speaker 4>Was, which they should have had at least longer than thirteen

1743
01:16:57.479 --> 01:16:59.279
<v Speaker 4>seconds scene of resolution for this.

1744
01:16:59.600 --> 01:17:02.239
<v Speaker 1>I did thought it was a practical effect though mostly

1745
01:17:02.880 --> 01:17:05.640
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, the bed turns around and then it has

1746
01:17:05.760 --> 01:17:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Mary's face and he's like, what does this mean?

1747
01:17:08.359 --> 01:17:10.720
<v Speaker 4>And then it's just done. It was over so quick.

1748
01:17:10.760 --> 01:17:14.680
<v Speaker 4>It's like, here's an exciting climactic scene and it's done.

1749
01:17:15.199 --> 01:17:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was so dumb by the way in there.

1750
01:17:20.840 --> 01:17:22.319
<v Speaker 4>I'll cut that one out with Eddie too.

1751
01:17:22.399 --> 01:17:23.039
<v Speaker 2>That boss fight.

1752
01:17:23.039 --> 01:17:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of problem with the bad one

1753
01:17:24.640 --> 01:17:27.000
<v Speaker 1>chasing you on that. I sucked at that one hard

1754
01:17:28.039 --> 01:17:28.720
<v Speaker 1>brag much.

1755
01:17:29.720 --> 01:17:30.640
<v Speaker 4>I think I died once.

1756
01:17:31.159 --> 01:17:33.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, when you're playing, when you only played the game

1757
01:17:33.560 --> 01:17:36.800
<v Speaker 1>for like thirty minutes at one am for the course

1758
01:17:36.840 --> 01:17:37.880
<v Speaker 1>of two weeks, it's hard.

1759
01:17:38.239 --> 01:17:40.439
<v Speaker 4>If you want to make up excuses while you're bad,

1760
01:17:40.560 --> 01:17:41.159
<v Speaker 4>you can, But.

1761
01:17:42.439 --> 01:17:44.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying I'm not bad at video games.

1762
01:17:44.279 --> 01:17:46.520
<v Speaker 1>I also only play them when I'm really tired, so

1763
01:17:46.560 --> 01:17:48.520
<v Speaker 1>that might have that might factor into it.

1764
01:17:48.800 --> 01:17:50.520
<v Speaker 4>So when are you shutting your video game review chair?

1765
01:17:54.159 --> 01:17:58.079
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, the nothing happens. He wakes up and there's

1766
01:17:58.119 --> 01:18:00.720
<v Speaker 1>a burnt corpse in front of him, which is maybe

1767
01:18:00.760 --> 01:18:01.479
<v Speaker 1>the bad monster.

1768
01:18:01.560 --> 01:18:05.720
<v Speaker 4>I'm assuming it was a bad monster. Yeah, but again no,

1769
01:18:05.720 --> 01:18:08.199
<v Speaker 4>no still resolution to what it is. It's just like,

1770
01:18:08.600 --> 01:18:10.159
<v Speaker 4>where is the actual resolution to that?

1771
01:18:10.520 --> 01:18:14.199
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's just a show that now Mary's dad

1772
01:18:15.560 --> 01:18:18.920
<v Speaker 1>was controlling her whole life, even in death.

1773
01:18:19.800 --> 01:18:23.119
<v Speaker 4>But there's no they don't really talk about her dad

1774
01:18:23.159 --> 01:18:24.920
<v Speaker 4>other than the fact that he was a cult leader,

1775
01:18:24.960 --> 01:18:27.119
<v Speaker 4>So you don't really have a lot of connection to

1776
01:18:27.119 --> 01:18:27.600
<v Speaker 4>at the beginning.

1777
01:18:27.640 --> 01:18:30.319
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think the cult is acting on his orders

1778
01:18:30.359 --> 01:18:32.239
<v Speaker 1>and they were like torturing her a whole life.

1779
01:18:32.279 --> 01:18:36.840
<v Speaker 4>You still don't have any any reason to connect with

1780
01:18:37.000 --> 01:18:37.479
<v Speaker 4>her dad.

1781
01:18:37.840 --> 01:18:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we needed like more specific story.

1782
01:18:40.119 --> 01:18:42.319
<v Speaker 4>There was nothing in the story or in any in

1783
01:18:42.520 --> 01:18:46.399
<v Speaker 4>the other plethora of flashbacks they did to insinuate her

1784
01:18:46.479 --> 01:18:48.840
<v Speaker 4>dad abuse her other than I.

1785
01:18:48.800 --> 01:18:51.439
<v Speaker 1>Think I think they're changing it. It's not so much

1786
01:18:51.680 --> 01:18:56.000
<v Speaker 1>like sexual abuse. It's just he controlled her life like he.

1787
01:18:55.920 --> 01:18:58.119
<v Speaker 2>Did the cult. The cult was taking avandage.

1788
01:18:58.199 --> 01:19:00.239
<v Speaker 4>That was not depicted well at all.

1789
01:19:00.359 --> 01:19:02.560
<v Speaker 2>No, it was he it was No. I agree, it

1790
01:19:02.640 --> 01:19:03.479
<v Speaker 2>wasn't done well.

1791
01:19:03.520 --> 01:19:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, like what the movie was trying to

1792
01:19:05.920 --> 01:19:08.239
<v Speaker 1>do as an adaptation, I'm not saying it didn't well.

1793
01:19:08.359 --> 01:19:11.079
<v Speaker 4>She would just kept Angela as her own character. It

1794
01:19:11.079 --> 01:19:12.159
<v Speaker 4>would have made more sense.

1795
01:19:12.399 --> 01:19:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Or cut Angela. I don't know.

1796
01:19:14.119 --> 01:19:18.399
<v Speaker 4>Everybody cut the cut Eddie. They cut my boy Eddie out, cut.

1797
01:19:18.239 --> 01:19:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Eddie and Angela. Just have him fighting monsters being sad

1798
01:19:20.880 --> 01:19:21.640
<v Speaker 2>about his wife.

1799
01:19:21.840 --> 01:19:22.640
<v Speaker 4>Where was my scene?

1800
01:19:22.680 --> 01:19:23.239
<v Speaker 2>You agree?

1801
01:19:23.319 --> 01:19:24.920
<v Speaker 4>Where's my scene of Eddie and Laura are sitting in

1802
01:19:24.960 --> 01:19:31.039
<v Speaker 4>a movie theater? I think I think Monica's blacking out.

1803
01:19:31.079 --> 01:19:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Now, what did you want from the game in this movie?

1804
01:19:35.560 --> 01:19:40.199
<v Speaker 3>I mean the pure actual idea of being stuck in

1805
01:19:40.239 --> 01:19:43.800
<v Speaker 3>your own hell, which in the game, which apparently you

1806
01:19:43.840 --> 01:19:44.319
<v Speaker 3>didn't realize.

1807
01:19:44.840 --> 01:19:47.239
<v Speaker 4>I realized in the car on the way over here,

1808
01:19:47.359 --> 01:19:49.760
<v Speaker 4>she told me, and I thought I knew a lot

1809
01:19:49.760 --> 01:19:50.359
<v Speaker 4>about this game.

1810
01:19:52.880 --> 01:19:56.399
<v Speaker 3>Is that you find out that James has been in

1811
01:19:56.439 --> 01:19:59.439
<v Speaker 3>this loop. He's gone through this and I forget how

1812
01:19:59.439 --> 01:20:00.520
<v Speaker 3>many times, but.

1813
01:20:00.439 --> 01:20:03.079
<v Speaker 1>Like factor in Eddie a million times, because he killed

1814
01:20:03.119 --> 01:20:04.039
<v Speaker 1>him so many times.

1815
01:20:04.119 --> 01:20:06.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what. But like you get the videotapes and

1816
01:20:06.920 --> 01:20:08.520
<v Speaker 3>the clues and all that stuff. Like if you get

1817
01:20:08.560 --> 01:20:11.199
<v Speaker 3>all the photos and everything merger all to get you

1818
01:20:11.239 --> 01:20:14.600
<v Speaker 3>find out like, hey, you've been here for like decades basically,

1819
01:20:14.760 --> 01:20:18.359
<v Speaker 3>like you've been stuck here. And that's terrifying to think

1820
01:20:18.359 --> 01:20:20.560
<v Speaker 3>that you've been stuck in this loop and you just

1821
01:20:20.720 --> 01:20:23.000
<v Speaker 3>you're not learning your lesson or letting go of any

1822
01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:27.039
<v Speaker 3>of your guilt from this. Yeah, and also like just

1823
01:20:27.079 --> 01:20:30.600
<v Speaker 3>being able to see what their hell worlds are, Like,

1824
01:20:31.039 --> 01:20:33.319
<v Speaker 3>it is terrifying when you get into Angelo's world and

1825
01:20:33.319 --> 01:20:35.840
<v Speaker 3>when you get into Eddie's world, even though Eddie is

1826
01:20:36.039 --> 01:20:40.880
<v Speaker 3>more the fucked up one. But that's a terrifying concept.

1827
01:20:41.079 --> 01:20:42.880
<v Speaker 3>It still would have worked just fine as a movie.

1828
01:20:43.399 --> 01:20:45.119
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it would have worked better as a series where

1829
01:20:45.199 --> 01:20:47.359
<v Speaker 1>this episode we're gonna explore Angela's stuff.

1830
01:20:47.399 --> 01:20:49.319
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, like somehow they all still like kind of

1831
01:20:49.359 --> 01:20:50.880
<v Speaker 3>seep like itges with each other.

1832
01:20:50.960 --> 01:20:54.439
<v Speaker 2>But the merging the characters sometimes that can work.

1833
01:20:54.520 --> 01:20:58.520
<v Speaker 1>It does not work here. But yeah, then he follows

1834
01:20:58.920 --> 01:21:03.159
<v Speaker 1>uh her outside and he sees her in bed, he

1835
01:21:03.199 --> 01:21:05.000
<v Speaker 1>sees her corpse in bed, and then we get a

1836
01:21:05.000 --> 01:21:08.439
<v Speaker 1>flashback to him being with her as she was dying. Yeah,

1837
01:21:09.039 --> 01:21:11.279
<v Speaker 1>and again the illness is a result of the magic

1838
01:21:11.399 --> 01:21:15.760
<v Speaker 1>poison Colt juice. But she's like, I tried to shield

1839
01:21:15.800 --> 01:21:18.439
<v Speaker 1>you from that part of my life. And then here

1840
01:21:18.560 --> 01:21:21.680
<v Speaker 1>she's like, not very well, yeah, not well, Yeah, I

1841
01:21:21.760 --> 01:21:22.479
<v Speaker 1>tried to shield you.

1842
01:21:22.560 --> 01:21:24.079
<v Speaker 2>We hung out with those people all the time. I

1843
01:21:24.119 --> 01:21:24.800
<v Speaker 2>tried to shield you.

1844
01:21:25.199 --> 01:21:31.000
<v Speaker 1>But then she says like her dad is insider like basically,

1845
01:21:31.079 --> 01:21:35.159
<v Speaker 1>like whatever the poison was a result of them. Basically,

1846
01:21:35.199 --> 01:21:37.359
<v Speaker 1>her dad took control of her life. Even in death,

1847
01:21:37.479 --> 01:21:40.159
<v Speaker 1>she can't escape him, and she just wants to escape him.

1848
01:21:40.479 --> 01:21:43.640
<v Speaker 1>And she basically asked James to help Mercy kill her really,

1849
01:21:44.319 --> 01:21:46.439
<v Speaker 1>and he's just like, I don't feel like doing that.

1850
01:21:46.520 --> 01:21:48.199
<v Speaker 2>And also that's kind of illegal. I don't know how

1851
01:21:48.239 --> 01:21:49.199
<v Speaker 2>I get away with it.

1852
01:21:49.239 --> 01:21:52.279
<v Speaker 4>But didn't ask her to do that in a game,

1853
01:21:52.600 --> 01:21:56.279
<v Speaker 4>I know, in the game. Not this weird cloth he

1854
01:21:56.319 --> 01:21:56.760
<v Speaker 4>picked up.

1855
01:21:57.039 --> 01:22:01.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that was some reason film tape in the

1856
01:22:01.279 --> 01:22:02.239
<v Speaker 1>game would have.

1857
01:22:02.359 --> 01:22:06.359
<v Speaker 4>Been so hard to just use a pillow. Could they

1858
01:22:06.399 --> 01:22:08.039
<v Speaker 4>not afford a pillow and a budget?

1859
01:22:08.520 --> 01:22:11.039
<v Speaker 2>They only had one pillow and she was laying on it.

1860
01:22:11.039 --> 01:22:14.399
<v Speaker 3>It might have had some sort of like medicine on

1861
01:22:14.439 --> 01:22:15.039
<v Speaker 3>it that helped.

1862
01:22:16.199 --> 01:22:18.279
<v Speaker 1>I thought he was just wiping the blood from her nose,

1863
01:22:18.399 --> 01:22:26.399
<v Speaker 1>but but yeah, they he mercy kills her and he

1864
01:22:26.439 --> 01:22:27.880
<v Speaker 1>feels real bad about it.

1865
01:22:28.720 --> 01:22:32.600
<v Speaker 3>And again, but it undercuts the whole emotional aspect from

1866
01:22:32.600 --> 01:22:34.840
<v Speaker 3>the game. Yeah, the fact that like he felt guilty

1867
01:22:35.399 --> 01:22:37.039
<v Speaker 3>for killing her, and that's why he got stuck in

1868
01:22:37.039 --> 01:22:41.159
<v Speaker 3>this hell loop. Yeah, where she she just needed him

1869
01:22:41.319 --> 01:22:43.399
<v Speaker 3>to be there for her. Instead, it's just like he

1870
01:22:43.479 --> 01:22:45.880
<v Speaker 3>left her then he came back and killed her because

1871
01:22:45.880 --> 01:22:47.479
<v Speaker 3>he just didn't want to deal with it anymore. And

1872
01:22:47.520 --> 01:22:49.479
<v Speaker 3>like he said, that is an actual trauma that people

1873
01:22:49.520 --> 01:22:51.800
<v Speaker 3>go through, like a guilt that they feel when you

1874
01:22:51.880 --> 01:22:52.960
<v Speaker 3>have a loved one dying.

1875
01:22:53.039 --> 01:22:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Like it doesn't work because this almost feels like he's

1876
01:22:55.279 --> 01:22:57.439
<v Speaker 2>doing a good thing. He's freeing her from.

1877
01:22:57.520 --> 01:23:00.159
<v Speaker 3>She says like it's okay, like please kill me, and

1878
01:23:00.199 --> 01:23:03.199
<v Speaker 3>he's just like okay. It's like, so, why are you

1879
01:23:03.239 --> 01:23:05.800
<v Speaker 3>stuck in this loop? Then like there's no point.

1880
01:23:06.000 --> 01:23:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, he ends up not being in a loop. We

1881
01:23:07.840 --> 01:23:11.039
<v Speaker 1>learn Mary flies around on her stretcher.

1882
01:23:11.640 --> 01:23:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Again.

1883
01:23:11.960 --> 01:23:13.439
<v Speaker 1>They wanted her to look like the girl from the

1884
01:23:13.479 --> 01:23:16.239
<v Speaker 1>first movie who was also on a stretcher flying around,

1885
01:23:16.279 --> 01:23:19.399
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, but here she looked like a weird brown

1886
01:23:19.520 --> 01:23:20.239
<v Speaker 1>space alien.

1887
01:23:20.439 --> 01:23:23.279
<v Speaker 3>She looks weird, I get I think they were trying

1888
01:23:23.279 --> 01:23:26.439
<v Speaker 3>to be like, oh, like, she probably became so emaciated

1889
01:23:26.520 --> 01:23:28.399
<v Speaker 3>from whatever disease she had.

1890
01:23:28.399 --> 01:23:29.720
<v Speaker 2>But she looks like a space alien.

1891
01:23:30.319 --> 01:23:32.039
<v Speaker 3>Get it. And they gave her tentacles.

1892
01:23:32.279 --> 01:23:33.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they gave her like four r.

1893
01:23:34.840 --> 01:23:37.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah she did. You did point out that day she

1894
01:23:37.079 --> 01:23:39.560
<v Speaker 4>had these weird tentacles. I'm like, yeah, what is it?

1895
01:23:39.680 --> 01:23:40.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah, I missed the tentacles.

1896
01:23:41.520 --> 01:23:44.199
<v Speaker 3>Like that was supposed to be a representation of like IVS,

1897
01:23:44.319 --> 01:23:46.840
<v Speaker 3>like being hooked up in the hospital bed. But like,

1898
01:23:46.880 --> 01:23:49.199
<v Speaker 3>if they showed her actually hooked up in a hospital

1899
01:23:49.239 --> 01:23:51.000
<v Speaker 3>bed being sick like that, then it would have made

1900
01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:54.000
<v Speaker 3>more sense to see her as this sickly alien creature.

1901
01:23:54.439 --> 01:23:56.000
<v Speaker 4>Are you saying they didn't do a good job of

1902
01:23:56.119 --> 01:23:59.039
<v Speaker 4>describing the aspects of what's going on?

1903
01:23:59.520 --> 01:24:04.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but she makes him fly over the fire. Looks dumb,

1904
01:24:04.880 --> 01:24:07.800
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, he said, like I wish I had died

1905
01:24:07.880 --> 01:24:11.039
<v Speaker 1>the same time as you, and that's why he hasn't

1906
01:24:11.079 --> 01:24:11.920
<v Speaker 1>forgiven himself.

1907
01:24:11.960 --> 01:24:12.760
<v Speaker 2>And then.

1908
01:24:14.439 --> 01:24:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Then she disappears and he finds her corpse and he

1909
01:24:17.720 --> 01:24:21.560
<v Speaker 1>loads it into a sweet Mustang that's parked outside.

1910
01:24:21.159 --> 01:24:22.560
<v Speaker 4>And then you get the bad ending.

1911
01:24:22.720 --> 01:24:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1912
01:24:23.000 --> 01:24:26.079
<v Speaker 1>Then he drives into the lake and then we hear

1913
01:24:26.199 --> 01:24:31.680
<v Speaker 1>like a doctor talking to him, are you with us,

1914
01:24:31.720 --> 01:24:35.920
<v Speaker 1>mister Sunderland, Which maybe in the real world he like

1915
01:24:36.079 --> 01:24:39.800
<v Speaker 1>flatlined over something. I don't know, but yeah, when he

1916
01:24:39.840 --> 01:24:42.399
<v Speaker 1>wakes up, he's back at the beginning of the movie,

1917
01:24:43.359 --> 01:24:46.159
<v Speaker 1>and he has all his memories of the previous time.

1918
01:24:47.000 --> 01:24:50.000
<v Speaker 1>So he's just like, hey, lady, I'm gonna help you

1919
01:24:50.279 --> 01:24:53.640
<v Speaker 1>drive somewhere and we're gonna we're gonna change things.

1920
01:24:54.079 --> 01:24:56.399
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna be a gentleman and get you out of here.

1921
01:24:56.840 --> 01:25:00.439
<v Speaker 1>Yes, he's gonna change things for her. So he's not

1922
01:25:00.680 --> 01:25:01.319
<v Speaker 1>in a loop.

1923
01:25:02.159 --> 01:25:07.920
<v Speaker 4>So did he die and he's like living in heaven? Yeah?

1924
01:25:08.199 --> 01:25:10.439
<v Speaker 4>Or did he get a second chance?

1925
01:25:11.199 --> 01:25:13.800
<v Speaker 2>I think maybe it's the second chance, or he's dead.

1926
01:25:13.840 --> 01:25:15.039
<v Speaker 2>And this is how he wished.

1927
01:25:14.960 --> 01:25:18.960
<v Speaker 4>Because Monica brought up earlier to me that that could

1928
01:25:18.960 --> 01:25:20.960
<v Speaker 4>have been the beginning of the loop, that I that

1929
01:25:21.079 --> 01:25:23.600
<v Speaker 4>she brought to my attention earlier, and like, oh, well,

1930
01:25:23.600 --> 01:25:25.600
<v Speaker 4>that would make sense and if it was actually looping

1931
01:25:25.680 --> 01:25:29.000
<v Speaker 4>in that way, and that would be better to the game.

1932
01:25:29.079 --> 01:25:32.479
<v Speaker 4>But it did not seem like that was the case.

1933
01:25:32.800 --> 01:25:35.960
<v Speaker 3>No, it would have been more horrifying. Yeah, if he

1934
01:25:36.239 --> 01:25:39.640
<v Speaker 3>wakes back up and it's in that same sequence and

1935
01:25:39.680 --> 01:25:41.760
<v Speaker 3>like they go back into the town and you're like, oh,

1936
01:25:41.880 --> 01:25:43.399
<v Speaker 3>like he's going to relive this, like you did not

1937
01:25:43.520 --> 01:25:47.399
<v Speaker 3>learn anything. Yeah, but she didn't really learn anything anyway.

1938
01:25:48.319 --> 01:25:52.960
<v Speaker 1>But the Devil's Advocate with Keanu Reeves or at the

1939
01:25:53.079 --> 01:25:55.720
<v Speaker 1>end he like rejects Satan and everything. But then it

1940
01:25:55.800 --> 01:25:57.720
<v Speaker 1>like loops to the beginning of the movie and the

1941
01:25:57.760 --> 01:25:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Devil's gonna try and trick him a different way.

1942
01:26:00.640 --> 01:26:02.239
<v Speaker 2>Keep doing this and keep doing this.

1943
01:26:02.640 --> 01:26:05.720
<v Speaker 4>I think one of the bigger things too, is that

1944
01:26:06.760 --> 01:26:10.880
<v Speaker 4>when you play the game for so long, you start

1945
01:26:10.920 --> 01:26:15.439
<v Speaker 4>to empathize with James a little bit, even though what

1946
01:26:15.520 --> 01:26:17.479
<v Speaker 4>he did should not be empathized.

1947
01:26:17.560 --> 01:26:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Yees. But because I too look down on murder.

1948
01:26:21.079 --> 01:26:24.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but with everything that goes on the game, because

1949
01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:26.319
<v Speaker 4>you may not if you don't have him be in it,

1950
01:26:26.399 --> 01:26:29.520
<v Speaker 4>you may not understand what has happened yet. So the

1951
01:26:29.600 --> 01:26:32.840
<v Speaker 4>doors are open for empathy towards James until you learn.

1952
01:26:33.600 --> 01:26:36.800
<v Speaker 4>But the whole movie I didn't.

1953
01:26:36.600 --> 01:26:41.199
<v Speaker 2>Like James's He's very bland, and then when you do

1954
01:26:41.359 --> 01:26:43.119
<v Speaker 2>know about his past, he's kind of a dick.

1955
01:26:43.520 --> 01:26:44.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1956
01:26:44.079 --> 01:26:46.319
<v Speaker 1>It was like he could have addressed the whole cold

1957
01:26:46.319 --> 01:26:48.640
<v Speaker 1>thing a little bit more subtly and like.

1958
01:26:48.600 --> 01:26:49.560
<v Speaker 2>Hey, what is this?

1959
01:26:49.680 --> 01:26:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Explain it to me instead of pack your bags were

1960
01:26:52.960 --> 01:26:53.680
<v Speaker 1>leaving bitch.

1961
01:26:53.720 --> 01:26:55.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I would have thought about it that.

1962
01:26:55.560 --> 01:26:58.479
<v Speaker 4>They could have. They could have actually explained every storyline

1963
01:26:58.520 --> 01:27:00.680
<v Speaker 4>in a movie. If at the very end he would

1964
01:27:00.720 --> 01:27:03.199
<v Speaker 4>have went into that bathroom at the stop and when

1965
01:27:03.199 --> 01:27:05.119
<v Speaker 4>he opened it up there was a dog at all.

1966
01:27:06.359 --> 01:27:09.479
<v Speaker 2>Say you know what, why didn't they just fucking go?

1967
01:27:09.760 --> 01:27:12.520
<v Speaker 4>That would have fixed ten out of eleven out of

1968
01:27:12.560 --> 01:27:15.319
<v Speaker 4>ten if that was the ending, If.

1969
01:27:15.159 --> 01:27:17.640
<v Speaker 1>They had the balls to just do that, and then

1970
01:27:17.640 --> 01:27:19.439
<v Speaker 1>they get in the UFO together, Oh.

1971
01:27:19.319 --> 01:27:22.520
<v Speaker 3>My god, fly one of these days that would someone

1972
01:27:22.520 --> 01:27:23.279
<v Speaker 3>will make that movie.

1973
01:27:23.279 --> 01:27:26.119
<v Speaker 4>That would have been the best possible ending for the movie.

1974
01:27:26.159 --> 01:27:27.399
<v Speaker 4>I would have been like.

1975
01:27:28.880 --> 01:27:30.800
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have to do it next time. I don't

1976
01:27:30.800 --> 01:27:32.800
<v Speaker 2>think we're getting more silent Hill movies anytime.

1977
01:27:33.319 --> 01:27:37.439
<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, we make our own. We should do

1978
01:27:37.479 --> 01:27:39.920
<v Speaker 4>what the anti Donna team did with X Men. Just

1979
01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:41.199
<v Speaker 4>make make our own.

1980
01:27:42.159 --> 01:27:45.920
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, the uh, just do the dog ending? Why

1981
01:27:45.960 --> 01:27:47.399
<v Speaker 2>not do it as a joke?

1982
01:27:47.479 --> 01:27:50.319
<v Speaker 4>At least this dog ending would have made I think

1983
01:27:50.399 --> 01:27:51.279
<v Speaker 4>it would have saved the film.

1984
01:27:51.319 --> 01:27:54.079
<v Speaker 1>I think I said before, I would have settled if

1985
01:27:54.079 --> 01:27:56.319
<v Speaker 1>he's like walking down a hallway and he sees a

1986
01:27:56.399 --> 01:27:58.159
<v Speaker 1>door cracked open with a control panel.

1987
01:27:58.159 --> 01:27:59.720
<v Speaker 2>You just see the dog walk past the door.

1988
01:27:59.880 --> 01:28:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I would settled for that, but then like a monster

1989
01:28:04.079 --> 01:28:05.880
<v Speaker 1>jumps out before he can like address it.

1990
01:28:06.159 --> 01:28:08.079
<v Speaker 4>That actually would have been good too, That would have

1991
01:28:08.119 --> 01:28:11.800
<v Speaker 4>been That would have been fucking good. It needed to

1992
01:28:11.840 --> 01:28:15.199
<v Speaker 4>be there. There needed to be the dog.

1993
01:28:15.520 --> 01:28:16.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1994
01:28:16.840 --> 01:28:18.920
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, the movie ends with the music video style

1995
01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:19.800
<v Speaker 1>credit sequence.

1996
01:28:21.039 --> 01:28:22.239
<v Speaker 3>That's almost weird too.

1997
01:28:22.439 --> 01:28:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I don't know if that was from the game

1998
01:28:23.960 --> 01:28:24.359
<v Speaker 2>or anything.

1999
01:28:24.359 --> 01:28:26.560
<v Speaker 4>I stopped paying attention as soon as the credits rolled.

2000
01:28:26.680 --> 01:28:29.039
<v Speaker 4>I think I walked out of a living bit like did.

2001
01:28:28.880 --> 01:28:31.720
<v Speaker 3>You listen to any of the lyrics? Kind of weird.

2002
01:28:32.079 --> 01:28:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't really pay attention to the lyrics, but

2003
01:28:33.840 --> 01:28:36.680
<v Speaker 1>the visuals it's like, oh, it's like James and Maria

2004
01:28:36.960 --> 01:28:39.279
<v Speaker 1>and cameras spinning around them, Like.

2005
01:28:41.239 --> 01:28:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Did you write down the lyrics?

2006
01:28:42.640 --> 01:28:42.760
<v Speaker 4>No?

2007
01:28:42.840 --> 01:28:44.600
<v Speaker 3>But now I want to look them up to them.

2008
01:28:46.119 --> 01:28:47.800
<v Speaker 4>So yes, this is pressure. Now.

2009
01:28:48.479 --> 01:28:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I wonder how I would have if I didn't play

2010
01:28:52.000 --> 01:28:54.399
<v Speaker 1>the game and I went into this bunch like I

2011
01:28:54.439 --> 01:28:55.159
<v Speaker 1>did the other two.

2012
01:28:56.399 --> 01:28:57.920
<v Speaker 2>I feel like this still would.

2013
01:28:57.680 --> 01:29:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Have not been a very good movie because the cold

2014
01:29:00.800 --> 01:29:01.920
<v Speaker 1>stuff is still confusing.

2015
01:29:01.960 --> 01:29:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Even if he didn't play anything, and it.

2016
01:29:04.680 --> 01:29:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Just wasn't scary. There weren't any really creepy visuals. I

2017
01:29:08.720 --> 01:29:10.600
<v Speaker 1>never had the feeling of dread like I did in

2018
01:29:10.640 --> 01:29:11.159
<v Speaker 1>the first one.

2019
01:29:11.199 --> 01:29:14.039
<v Speaker 4>There's no conclusion anything. A lot of things are left unanswered,

2020
01:29:14.079 --> 01:29:18.199
<v Speaker 4>a lot of things are ambiguous like that, I'm fine,

2021
01:29:18.520 --> 01:29:19.199
<v Speaker 4>that could work.

2022
01:29:20.159 --> 01:29:22.840
<v Speaker 3>That can work in movies. Sometimes that works to a

2023
01:29:22.880 --> 01:29:25.479
<v Speaker 3>horrifying effect of like you're not getting answers.

2024
01:29:25.720 --> 01:29:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so like it makes.

2025
01:29:26.760 --> 01:29:30.159
<v Speaker 4>You Yeah, I agree totally, but yeah, like it does

2026
01:29:30.279 --> 01:29:31.840
<v Speaker 4>not work the way they did it.

2027
01:29:31.880 --> 01:29:34.439
<v Speaker 2>Just yeah, this one almost explains a little too much,

2028
01:29:34.479 --> 01:29:37.039
<v Speaker 2>so it makes the stuff they don't explain stand out more.

2029
01:29:37.520 --> 01:29:39.960
<v Speaker 2>It's like, Okay, well was the Dad magic? Is any

2030
01:29:39.960 --> 01:29:40.800
<v Speaker 2>of this real?

2031
01:29:41.600 --> 01:29:44.079
<v Speaker 3>We never actually do we actually see the Dad.

2032
01:29:44.279 --> 01:29:46.439
<v Speaker 2>We just saw a painting of him looking scary.

2033
01:29:46.880 --> 01:29:51.399
<v Speaker 4>It's just a bust of him in a metal closet.

2034
01:29:51.880 --> 01:29:55.039
<v Speaker 1>And I get again, you have to make some connections

2035
01:29:55.039 --> 01:29:56.560
<v Speaker 1>to the previous film, And I don't know.

2036
01:29:56.560 --> 01:29:57.359
<v Speaker 2>If that's what it was.

2037
01:29:58.039 --> 01:30:01.159
<v Speaker 1>Uh, it's just a huge left and I expect it

2038
01:30:01.239 --> 01:30:05.680
<v Speaker 1>better from him, and he had more creative control and like.

2039
01:30:07.439 --> 01:30:09.640
<v Speaker 3>The first one, like you said, it's become a cult classic,

2040
01:30:09.720 --> 01:30:13.119
<v Speaker 3>like revisited, and we're like, is this fun movie? Like

2041
01:30:13.159 --> 01:30:16.279
<v Speaker 3>it is a pretty good movie for adapting a Silent

2042
01:30:16.359 --> 01:30:17.199
<v Speaker 3>Hill game.

2043
01:30:18.039 --> 01:30:20.039
<v Speaker 2>It works on its own for the most part.

2044
01:30:20.520 --> 01:30:23.279
<v Speaker 3>And then it's just like he's like, I can do this, guys,

2045
01:30:23.319 --> 01:30:25.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna come back, I'm gonna take control again. And

2046
01:30:25.800 --> 01:30:27.760
<v Speaker 3>it's just like I'm gonna ship the bed.

2047
01:30:28.119 --> 01:30:28.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

2048
01:30:29.000 --> 01:30:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it really shouldn't have been. I don't know what

2049
01:30:30.640 --> 01:30:32.840
<v Speaker 1>happened with the visual effects, why they look so bad.

2050
01:30:34.039 --> 01:30:37.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure what happened there, but I wanted it.

2051
01:30:37.560 --> 01:30:38.279
<v Speaker 2>To be better.

2052
01:30:39.239 --> 01:30:43.359
<v Speaker 1>Is this the worst Silent Hill movie out of the three?

2053
01:30:43.520 --> 01:30:44.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

2054
01:30:44.720 --> 01:30:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Worse than Revelations.

2055
01:30:46.079 --> 01:30:49.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm gonna say, yeah, this is at least their

2056
01:30:50.000 --> 01:30:52.079
<v Speaker 3>explains that makes it work a little bit.

2057
01:30:52.239 --> 01:30:54.399
<v Speaker 4>And I feel like sometimes when you're watching Revelations, it

2058
01:30:54.439 --> 01:30:57.680
<v Speaker 4>felt like you were playing a video game. In some instances,

2059
01:30:57.680 --> 01:30:59.520
<v Speaker 4>it like actually felt like I had video game flow.

2060
01:31:00.159 --> 01:31:02.279
<v Speaker 4>Very good video game, but not very good, but you

2061
01:31:02.279 --> 01:31:03.880
<v Speaker 4>could see you can kind of feel at.

2062
01:31:04.039 --> 01:31:05.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not sure which one's the worst.

2063
01:31:05.520 --> 01:31:08.079
<v Speaker 1>I will say this is definitely the biggest letdown of

2064
01:31:08.119 --> 01:31:11.640
<v Speaker 1>them because Silent Hill revel, no one knew what to expect.

2065
01:31:11.640 --> 01:31:12.359
<v Speaker 2>With Silent Hill one.

2066
01:31:12.399 --> 01:31:14.520
<v Speaker 1>You're like, oh, that was pretty movie Silent Hill too,

2067
01:31:14.520 --> 01:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Everyone's like, well that looks like shit.

2068
01:31:16.479 --> 01:31:17.399
<v Speaker 2>But this one people are.

2069
01:31:17.319 --> 01:31:20.119
<v Speaker 1>Like, he's back, it's gonna be good, and we're all

2070
01:31:20.199 --> 01:31:22.479
<v Speaker 1>hike because of the remake. And then it was just like, oh,

2071
01:31:22.600 --> 01:31:25.000
<v Speaker 1>this didn't check any of the back remember.

2072
01:31:24.800 --> 01:31:27.520
<v Speaker 3>Too, Like when people start seeing like the teaser trailers,

2073
01:31:27.560 --> 01:31:30.319
<v Speaker 3>were like, ooh, this doesn't look good, and like everyone's like,

2074
01:31:30.359 --> 01:31:32.479
<v Speaker 3>it's just a teaser trailer. They still have to work

2075
01:31:32.560 --> 01:31:32.920
<v Speaker 3>on it.

2076
01:31:33.239 --> 01:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>You give it, Yeah, that people fall into that trap,

2077
01:31:36.720 --> 01:31:43.560
<v Speaker 1>because sometimes that's true, but oftentimes it's not. Yeah, this

2078
01:31:43.760 --> 01:31:45.199
<v Speaker 1>this didn't do it for either of us.

2079
01:31:45.239 --> 01:31:48.000
<v Speaker 2>But we did all the Silent Hill movies.

2080
01:31:48.640 --> 01:31:49.119
<v Speaker 4>We did it.

2081
01:31:49.159 --> 01:31:51.279
<v Speaker 2>Wait, there's a choose your own Adventure on Toby right.

2082
01:31:52.439 --> 01:31:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh fuck yeah, maybe we'll do that at some point,

2083
01:31:55.800 --> 01:31:58.079
<v Speaker 1>but as OF's that's animated though.

2084
01:31:57.960 --> 01:31:59.399
<v Speaker 2>Right, I don't know.

2085
01:31:59.399 --> 01:31:59.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it is.

2086
01:32:00.439 --> 01:32:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh ship, Well, we did all the theatrical Silent Hill movies.

2087
01:32:04.760 --> 01:32:06.000
<v Speaker 2>We did it.

2088
01:32:06.680 --> 01:32:08.439
<v Speaker 1>I think we can all agree the first one is

2089
01:32:08.479 --> 01:32:11.960
<v Speaker 1>still the best. Yeah, then the second one has some

2090
01:32:12.000 --> 01:32:14.199
<v Speaker 1>funny moments and you could just skip the watch a

2091
01:32:14.319 --> 01:32:18.560
<v Speaker 1>let's play of the games. Then this it's so condensed,

2092
01:32:18.560 --> 01:32:22.640
<v Speaker 1>it's not good. Where can I find you? Guys, We're

2093
01:32:22.680 --> 01:32:23.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna find you.

2094
01:32:23.399 --> 01:32:31.239
<v Speaker 3>Monica Instagram, I am at story in the end. I

2095
01:32:31.239 --> 01:32:32.079
<v Speaker 3>mean that's pretty much.

2096
01:32:31.960 --> 01:32:34.800
<v Speaker 2>The only place you had a TikTok.

2097
01:32:35.760 --> 01:32:38.840
<v Speaker 3>I have a TikTok, but I just postings like things

2098
01:32:38.880 --> 01:32:40.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't make tiktoks.

2099
01:32:40.479 --> 01:32:41.079
<v Speaker 2>And Dan.

2100
01:32:43.319 --> 01:32:46.479
<v Speaker 1>Dan if we were feeling grief written and we drive

2101
01:32:46.560 --> 01:32:49.159
<v Speaker 1>to a town that's covered in fog, where can we

2102
01:32:49.199 --> 01:32:50.640
<v Speaker 1>find you?

2103
01:32:50.760 --> 01:32:51.520
<v Speaker 4>Probably dead?

2104
01:32:52.399 --> 01:32:52.600
<v Speaker 2>There?

2105
01:32:52.640 --> 01:32:54.680
<v Speaker 3>You go, okay, what is your personal help?

2106
01:32:54.680 --> 01:32:57.520
<v Speaker 4>But I would like, I'm out, I wouldn't survive, or

2107
01:32:57.560 --> 01:32:59.239
<v Speaker 4>I'd be just like just send it.

2108
01:32:59.640 --> 01:33:01.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I give up.

2109
01:33:01.119 --> 01:33:03.399
<v Speaker 1>The moment I walked into Silent and saw the first sponsor,

2110
01:33:03.600 --> 01:33:08.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm this. No, all you have to do is forgive

2111
01:33:08.760 --> 01:33:11.199
<v Speaker 1>yourself and you can leave. And he chooses to hang

2112
01:33:11.239 --> 01:33:18.119
<v Speaker 1>around the naked acid shooting monsters. No, thank you, but yes,

2113
01:33:18.239 --> 01:33:21.880
<v Speaker 1>and you can follow me hack the movies wherever you're online.

2114
01:33:22.039 --> 01:33:25.319
<v Speaker 1>Please like, share, subscribe, sign up for Patreon, even at

2115
01:33:25.319 --> 01:33:28.239
<v Speaker 1>the free tier. I'm gonna fix that light. I'm gonna

2116
01:33:28.279 --> 01:33:29.239
<v Speaker 1>fix that goddamn light.

2117
01:33:29.319 --> 01:33:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Later today. And what else do I have going on?

2118
01:33:35.479 --> 01:33:37.000
<v Speaker 2>I forget when this comes out, so I don't know

2119
01:33:37.000 --> 01:33:39.880
<v Speaker 2>what the plug. But yes, follow my socials so you

2120
01:33:39.960 --> 01:33:41.560
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm doing.

2121
01:33:41.319 --> 01:33:44.800
<v Speaker 3>And where where you will be? What you got going on?

2122
01:33:45.840 --> 01:33:47.479
<v Speaker 4>Well, I do know.

2123
01:33:48.079 --> 01:33:50.680
<v Speaker 1>In August I'll be in New York for the Sci

2124
01:33:50.720 --> 01:33:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Fi Horror Fest.

2125
01:33:52.399 --> 01:33:54.439
<v Speaker 2>And then did I send you Paison Cohn?

2126
01:33:54.920 --> 01:33:56.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? You did, and you told me I could get

2127
01:33:56.479 --> 01:33:56.960
<v Speaker 3>him free.

2128
01:33:57.199 --> 01:34:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes, we apparently the Italian member have hacked the movies

2129
01:34:01.000 --> 01:34:03.560
<v Speaker 1>can get press passes to Paison Con.

2130
01:34:04.119 --> 01:34:07.960
<v Speaker 2>So that's my birthday weekend. My favorite thing.

2131
01:34:08.239 --> 01:34:11.199
<v Speaker 1>I because Johanna fanned out she was an Italian, her

2132
01:34:11.239 --> 01:34:13.840
<v Speaker 1>grandmother did, so I let her know right away.

2133
01:34:13.880 --> 01:34:15.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you're not allowed to come. I felt so

2134
01:34:15.800 --> 01:34:20.000
<v Speaker 2>good doing that. So I guess look for a bunch

2135
01:34:20.000 --> 01:34:23.039
<v Speaker 2>of Guidos walking around Baison Con at some point.

2136
01:34:23.479 --> 01:34:28.119
<v Speaker 3>Uh no, what No, I just mean like, you're gonna

2137
01:34:28.119 --> 01:34:29.560
<v Speaker 3>be the least looking Guido there.

2138
01:34:29.720 --> 01:34:31.479
<v Speaker 4>Do you think guidos watched this show?

2139
01:34:31.840 --> 01:34:35.439
<v Speaker 2>Uh? Yeah, I'm gonna be wearing my Rocky for Italian tracksuit.

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<v Speaker 4>Should I come dressed as a Guido?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you Italian? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>A little bit?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, that's fine, I'm like.

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<v Speaker 4>French and Italian. Uh sorry, we just you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be a great weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Have paison con with almost every actor from the Sopranos

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<v Speaker 1>who's ever existed.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh and that one guy from the Adam Taylor movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes he's the only one who doesn't have a Sopranos credit.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh but yes, follow us there and I'll let us

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<v Speaker 1>know what you thought of Return to Silent Hill, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be back.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten years from now when they make another one. Goodbye, everyone.

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